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Talmudic argument

From: Christoph Lameter <chris@waterf.org>
> What project policies could I potentially violate?
> This sounds really really strange to me.

I apologize. I can't think of anything you'd "violate". That was way
too harsh.

> So the "free software community" is the community that adheres to the
> contract? This is self-referential and really does not clarify the
> situation.

A Talmudic argument? Let's see if I can work this out. (If you don't like
talmudic arguments, tune out here.)

1. Debian's definition of the set of Free Software is all software which
   conforms to the conditions of the DFSG.

2. The Free Software Community as that set of entities who produce Free
   Software.

3. Thus, the DFSG implicitly defines the Free Software Community for
   Debian.

4. In Debian's Social Contract, we pledge that we are, and will remain,
   good members of the Free Software Community.

5. Thus, Debian's Social Contract, taken together with the DFSG, is the
   work of a member of the Free Software Community defining that community.

Now, I understand that you don't like that the above is self-referential,
however I don't think it's unreasonable for a community to define itself.
Such a definition is necessarily self-referential, as are all statements
of the form "I tell you who we are".

> If you mean by that all those who truly "believe" in the GPL gospel then I
> am and maybe half of the rest of the Linux world are outside of the
> free software community.

Given the above, the set of Free Software contains the set of GPL-ed software.
So, the question is not whether you are a believer in the GPL gospel, but
whether you are a producer of Free Software as defined by the DGPL, and thus
a member of the Free Software Community.

You're the one with the religeous training. Where are the flaws in this?

	Thanks

	Bruce
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