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Re: "purity" package



At 12:49 PM 11/29/97 +0000, Enrique Zanardi wrote:
>On Sat, Nov 29, 1997 at 12:34:08AM -0800, Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote:
> 
>> It needs to move to non-free anway.  The copyright shows that it goes
>> into non-free anyway:
>> /usr/doc/purity/copyright:
>> >This program is public domain.  Please don't charge for it.
>> >If you improve it/fix it/etc, please let me know, so i can
>> >keep my version up to date with everyone else's.
>
>OK. Let's move that thing under non-free, and forget about it...
>
>But we have opened a can of worws. What may we do with "potentially
>offensive" stuff? What if someone packages a screensaver with "sexually
>explicit material"? Sure, the WWW is full of that kind of "material".
>People is free to download it if they want. But, should we distribute it
>in our official CDs? Should we use the precious donated FTP space to hold
>that stuff?

Also, we could get in trouble for "publishing" info that is illegal for
minors to get their hands on.  I've been involved with debian since I've
been 16, and I'm sure their are their debian developers who are below 18 and
many users as well.  For all we know it could be illegal for them to have a
CD that has the program on it.  I'm not for censorship, personally, we could
have a package that has mein kampf in it, and I might be insulted, but I
wouldn't ask for it to be removed.  However, programs that are possibly
illegal should be removed.  Why?  because we don't want to spend the time
and effort to go through every program that is questionable and decide on
it's legality.  Our time and effort is better spent doing other things.

>
>I think we should have the power to decide what goes and what doesn't go
>in our distribution. It's not as simple as "don't install it!" when you
>have already paid for the CDs!
>
>And who draws the line? We as a whole do it, as we do (or want to do)
>with every policy decision. What's wrong with Debian deciding "foo"
>doesn't belong to Debian GNU/Linux distribution?

I agree.


>
>>   -<li>their distribution would conflict with other project policies.</ul>
>>   +<li>their distribution would conflict with other project policies.<P>
>>   +<li>someone, somewhere might find the contents offensive.</ul>
>
>Not "someone, somewhere might find...". We (the Debian packages
>maintainers and collaborators) decide the package "foo" has no place in
>our distribution.  And if we decide vi or emacs don't have anything to do
>there, let's remove them. We all are rational people here, aren't we?
>

exactly.

Just my 7 agarot (don't ask) :)

Shaya



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