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Re: Democracy (was Re: There is no leadership vaccumm.)

> I've seen exactly the same things happen to other groups when they have
> switched from being a benign dictatorship to a democracy. it diverts
> too much energy into politics and fighting...the group's focus changes
> from achieving whatever the original aims were to issues of control over
> the group. "well-meaning" people waste far too much of everyone's time
> attempting to save the group from itself.
> 
> unfortunately, it's probably too late to turn back. we're probably
> stuck with some form of democratic input now.

Really ?  What has been decided by democracy so far ?  Not much IIRC.

I think we have too many individuals and not enough sheep for democracy to 
really take hold ;-)

If we have binding votes, and we vote on the way that ``those who make it 
happen'' are expected to do things, then eventually someone will be told to do 
something they just don't want to do.

When that happens, they will either ignore the vote, or leave.

[this is giving me deja vu already ;-) ]

Since we are not currently having to beat volunteers back with sticks, I'd say 
we would be much better off letting people do their jobs as they see fit.

If anyone gets excited enough about something they don't like, they should 
have to prove that it can be done better (by doing it better) before we resort 
to voting about which we like best.

If someone in authority ever actually does something that manages to upset a 
2/3 majority of the developers, we won't be needing a voting mechanism, we'll 
be needing a UN peace keeping mission ;-)  [Just look at what happens when 
about 5 people get upset]

There is no point in all us plebs voting for someone else to work harder,
it won't work, and it's not friendly.

Non-binding polls, on the other hand, do have their place since some
things can only be determined on the basis of the average personal taste.
They might also be useful for taking the sting out of some of the more 
pointless discussions, such as have been raging recently.

Cheers, Phil.

Democracy == Dumb-ocracy IMNSHO ;-)



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