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[[Category:Comes v Microsoft]]
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[[Category:Antitrust]]
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[[Category:Microsoft]]
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[[Category:DOS]]
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This index deals with [[Comes vs Microsoft]] court exhibits which offer a glance at the history of Microsoft abuse. For a concise summary of some of the exhibits, see "[[Petition text - overview]]".
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== Exclusion ==
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* [[SCP Microsoft 86-dos license agreement]] (Exhibit PX00001)
* [[SCP Microsoft 86-dos license agreement]] (Exhibit PX00001)
* [[Not letting the big manufacturers off the per system hook]] (Exhibit PX00023)
* [[Not letting the big manufacturers off the per system hook]] (Exhibit PX00023)
* [[Resistance from WIN customers]] (Exhibit PX00026)
* [[Resistance from WIN customers]] (Exhibit PX00026)
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== Testing/Sabotage ==
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* [[Have Bambi refuse to run on this alien OS]] (Exhibit PLEX_0981)
* [[Have Bambi refuse to run on this alien OS]] (Exhibit PLEX_0981)
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* [http://boycottnovell.com/2009/07/22/bambi-alien-os/ Microsoft, “Bambi”, and the “Alien OS” Riddle] (Exhibit PX_9923 and Exhibit PX00993)
* [[Non-tested DOS warning code]] (Exhibit PX00963)
* [[Non-tested DOS warning code]] (Exhibit PX00963)
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* [[Microsoft on feeding press with DR-DOS bugs]] (Exhibit PX00964)
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* [[Non-tested DOS warning code - 2]] (Exhibit PX00109)
* [[Make sure DR-DOS has problems]] (Exhibit PX00978)
* [[Make sure DR-DOS has problems]] (Exhibit PX00978)
* [[Display alien Dos message function]] (Exhibits PX07693, PX00979)
* [[Display alien Dos message function]] (Exhibits PX07693, PX00979)
* [[Purpose of the AARD code]] (Exhibit TP011207)
* [[Purpose of the AARD code]] (Exhibit TP011207)
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* [[Problems with rom-DRDOS 6.0 and win]] (Exhibit PX09840)
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* [[tonyka tests DR-DOS 6.0 ]] (Exhibits PX00963 and PX00964)
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* [[Allchin: make sure DR-DOS has problems in the future]] (Exhibit PX00978)
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* [[Unplanned leaks]] (Exhibits PX02387_A and PX00109)
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== FUD ==
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* [[Microsoft on feeding press with DR-DOS bugs]] (Exhibit PX00964)
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* [[FUD as an official business tactic in 1990, to combat DR-DOS]] (Exhibit PX00425)
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== Attack Plans ==
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* [[Those rabid DR-dogs]] (Exhibit PX09557)
* [[Those rabid DR-dogs]] (Exhibit PX09557)
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* [[Problems with rom-DRDOS 6.0 and win]] (Exhibit PX09840)
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* [[The DOS gold mine is shrinking]] (Exhibit PX05042)
* [[Microsoft on attacking the counterfeiting of MS-DOS ..]] (Exhibit PX09834)
* [[Microsoft on attacking the counterfeiting of MS-DOS ..]] (Exhibit PX09834)
* [[Why Amstrad dropped DR-DOS]] (Exhibit PX_9923)
* [[Why Amstrad dropped DR-DOS]] (Exhibit PX_9923)
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* [[Safely passing the Doubledisk source]] (Exhibit PX04253_A)
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* Helping Sears rewrite DR-DOS contract (See: http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/px04602.pdf ; Analysis and text: http://boycottnovell.com/2007/08/04/technical-sabotage-to-political-games/ )
REMARK - D.M.:  
REMARK - D.M.:  
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"You never sent me a response on the question of what things an [application] would do that would make it run with MS-DOS and not run with DR-DOS," Bill Gates wrote in 1988. His earlier email? "I am not looking for something they cant get around. I am looking for something their current binary fails on."
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''"You never sent me a response on the question of what things an [application] would do that would make it run with MS-DOS and not run with DR-DOS," Bill Gates wrote in 1988. His earlier email? "I am not looking for something they cant get around. I am looking for something their current binary fails on."''
http://www.theregister.co.uk/1999/05/03/more_gates_smoking_emails_support/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/1999/05/03/more_gates_smoking_emails_support/
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== non-tested DOS warning code .. ==
 
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To: Russ werner
 
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From: Mark Chestnut
 
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Subject: Status Report for April, 1989
 
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Date 5/22/89
 
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The first MS product with the non-tested DOS warning code, Quick Pascal, was released. Tom Reeve and Cindy Kasin have committed to implimenting it in all new MS application and language releases from this point forward, including international.
 
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I am also planning to hire an independent DOS gure to do an in-depth comparative analysis of MS vs. DR DOS, with the idea of somehow making those results available to the press. This could be usefull ammunition to have against DRI, and will be of value even if we choose not to make it public.
 
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http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/0000/PX00109.pdf
 
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== tonyka tests DR-DOS 6.0 .. ==
 
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tonyka tests DR-DOS 6.0 ..
 
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From: tonyka Thu Sep 19 18:44:04 1991
 
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To: tomle
 
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Cc: brentk; dosdev; jefflo; vangard
 
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Subject: DR-DOS 6.0 Testing (9/19)
 
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DR DOS beats us on a 386 system by 12,560 bytes conventional; their EMM386 is a combined XMS provider and expanded memory manager. I don't understand why MS DOS only gives 95kb UMB; maybe I need to include some region on emm386 line.
 
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1) Please include All bugs in DR-DOS that are not in MS-DOS from Intel TESTMEM test suite Boundary test:
 
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Allocating more (expanded memory) pages than available in system
 
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EMM did not return the expected results (returned 12 instead of 9A).
 
-
 
-
DTK 386 cold boot/hang problem:
 
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After installing DR 6 on this machine, cold boot always results in a "Cannot load file". Press a key to retry." When press a key, the machine will boot fine. Warm boot always work without this problem.
 
-
 
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Also there's intermittent hang after exiting EDITOR. It hung on me twice today. Haven't seen these problems happen on another machine.
 
-
 
-
Warm boot with HIDOS.SYS installed
 
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gives "Warning: Address line A20 already enabled."
 
-
 
-
..
 
-
 
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2) Anything you did not like about DR-DOS
 
-
 
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DR DOS reports version as 3.31; no lie table and programs won't run.
 
-
 
-
 
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Their EDITOR looks antique (compared to ours); haven't used WORDSTAR for ages.
 
-
 
-
..
 
-
 
-
 
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3) Anything you like about DR-DOS that we should add to future MS-DOS versions
 
-
 
-
DR MEM program output looks sharp: layout is clearer and offers more info than ours.
 
-
 
-
DOSBOOK online help looks pretty fancy and helpful.
 
-
 
-
 
-
DR SETUP lets user tune system after installation. This concept is good but their implementation is not useful enough.
 
-
 
-
..
 
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Privileged Material Redacted
 
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http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/0000/PX00963.pdf
 
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From brade Fri Sep 20 17:31:57 1991
 
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To: bradsi
 
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Cc: bradc; braddir; dosmktg; lizsi; w-carrin; w-maria
 
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Subject: PC Week and DR DOS
 
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Date: Fri Sep 20 17:32:48 PDT 1991
 
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Carrine's great work got us the oppurtunity to feed pc week some info on where to look for bugs with dr dos. I have had a couple of conversations with lenny bailes who is helping with the ms-dos 5 versus dr-dos 5 evaluation process.
 
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Today tom and i talked to him. on the negative side i probably brought up one two many things for him to look at. it is difficult to appropriately and professionally try and trash your competitor. also on the negative side, lenny clearly seems to be a dr dos fan. to be fair i think he is sincere and is trying to be balanced.
 
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also on the negative side he did tells us that under 1 meg dr dos 6 was better than ms-dos 5 on 7 out of 10 machines they tested. no real details but i think the differences will be small.
 
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-
on the positive side they did themselves find some of the setup problems (such as poor updating to config.sys) and he has passed on tp the pc weeks labs some of these configurations we suggested they look at that we uncovered with dr dos 5. he was also intrigued by some of the data from yesterday's dr-dos 6 test, in particular tom's problems when he entered a ton of nested directory names.
 
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http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/0000/PX00964.pdf
 
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court documents in the case of Comes v. Microsoft.
 
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tonyka tests DR-DOS 6.0 ..
 
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From: tonyka Thu Sep 19 18:44:04 1991
 
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To: tomle
 
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Cc: brentk; dosdev; jefflo; vangard
 
-
Subject: DR-DOS 6.0 Testing (9/19)
 
-
 
-
 
-
DR DOS beats us on a 386 system by 12,560 bytes conventional; their EMM386 is a combined XMS provider and expanded memory manager. I don't understand why MS DOS only gives 95kb UMB; maybe I need to include some region on emm386 line.
 
-
 
-
..
 
-
 
-
 
-
1) Please include All bugs in DR-DOS that are not in MS-DOS from Intel TESTMEM test suite Boundary test:
 
-
 
-
Allocating more (expanded memory) pages than available in system
 
-
EMM did not return the expected results (returned 12 instead of 9A).
 
-
 
-
DTK 386 cold boot/hang problem:
 
-
 
-
After installing DR 6 on this machine, cold boot always results in a "Cannot load file". Press a key to retry." When press a key, the machine will boot fine. Warm boot always work without this problem.
 
-
 
-
Also there's intermittent hang after exiting EDITOR. It hung on me twice today. Haven't seen these problems happen on another machine.
 
-
 
-
Warm boot with HIDOS.SYS installed
 
-
gives "Warning: Address line A20 already enabled."
 
-
 
-
..
 
-
 
-
2) Anything you did not like about DR-DOS
 
-
 
-
DR DOS reports version as 3.31; no lie table and programs won't run.
 
-
 
-
 
-
Their EDITOR looks antique (compared to ours); haven't used WORDSTAR for ages.
 
-
 
-
..
 
-
 
-
 
-
3) Anything you like about DR-DOS that we should add to future MS-DOS versions
 
-
 
-
DR MEM program output looks sharp: layout is clearer and offers more info than ours.
 
-
 
-
DOSBOOK online help looks pretty fancy and helpful.
 
-
 
-
 
-
DR SETUP lets user tune system after installation. This concept is good but their implementation is not useful enough.
 
-
 
-
..
 
-
 
-
Privileged Material Redacted
 
-
 
-
 
-
http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/0000/PX00963.pdf
 
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From brade Fri Sep 20 17:31:57 1991
 
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To: bradsi
 
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Cc: bradc; braddir; dosmktg; lizsi; w-carrin; w-maria
 
-
Subject: PC Week and DR DOS
 
-
Date: Fri Sep 20 17:32:48 PDT 1991
 
-
 
-
 
-
Carrine's great work got us the oppurtunity to feed pc week some info on where to look for bugs with dr dos. I have had a couple of conversations with lenny bailes who is helping with the ms-dos 5 versus dr-dos 5 evaluation process.
 
-
 
-
Today tom and i talked to him. on the negative side i probably brought up one two many things for him to look at. it is difficult to appropriately and professionally try and trash your competitor. also on the negative side, lenny clearly seems to be a dr dos fan. to be fair i think he is sincere and is trying to be balanced.
 
-
 
-
also on the negative side he did tells us that under 1 meg dr dos 6 was better than ms-dos 5 on 7 out of 10 machines they tested. no real details but i think the differences will be small.
 
-
 
-
on the positive side they did themselves find some of the setup problems (such as poor updating to config.sys) and he has passed on tp the pc weeks labs some of these configurations we suggested they look at that we uncovered with dr dos 5. he was also intrigued by some of the data from yesterday's dr-dos 6 test, in particular tom's problems when he entered a ton of nested directory names.
 
-
 
-
http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/0000/PX00964.pdf
 
-
 
-
--
 
-
court documents in the case of Comes v. Microsoft.
 
-
 
-
tonyka tests DR-DOS 6.0 ..
 
-
 
-
From: tonyka Thu Sep 19 18:44:04 1991
 
-
To: tomle
 
-
Cc: brentk; dosdev; jefflo; vangard
 
-
Subject: DR-DOS 6.0 Testing (9/19)
 
-
 
-
 
-
DR DOS beats us on a 386 system by 12,560 bytes conventional; their EMM386 is a combined XMS provider and expanded memory manager. I don't understand why MS DOS only gives 95kb UMB; maybe I need to include some region on emm386 line.
 
-
 
-
..
 
-
 
-
 
-
1) Please include All bugs in DR-DOS that are not in MS-DOS from Intel TESTMEM test suite Boundary test:
 
-
 
-
Allocating more (expanded memory) pages than available in system
 
-
EMM did not return the expected results (returned 12 instead of 9A).
 
-
 
-
DTK 386 cold boot/hang problem:
 
-
 
-
After installing DR 6 on this machine, cold boot always results in a "Cannot load file". Press a key to retry." When press a key, the machine will boot fine. Warm boot always work without this problem.
 
-
 
-
Also there's intermittent hang after exiting EDITOR. It hung on me twice today. Haven't seen these problems happen on another machine.
 
-
 
-
Warm boot with HIDOS.SYS installed
 
-
gives "Warning: Address line A20 already enabled."
 
-
 
-
..
 
-
 
-
2) Anything you did not like about DR-DOS
 
-
 
-
DR DOS reports version as 3.31; no lie table and programs won't run.
 
-
 
-
 
-
Their EDITOR looks antique (compared to ours); haven't used WORDSTAR for ages.
 
-
 
-
..
 
-
 
-
 
-
3) Anything you like about DR-DOS that we should add to future MS-DOS versions
 
-
 
-
DR MEM program output looks sharp: layout is clearer and offers more info than ours.
 
-
 
-
DOSBOOK online help looks pretty fancy and helpful.
 
-
 
-
 
-
DR SETUP lets user tune system after installation. This concept is good but their implementation is not useful enough.
 
-
 
-
..
 
-
 
-
Privileged Material Redacted
 
-
 
-
 
-
http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/0000/PX00963.pdf
 
-
 
-
From brade Fri Sep 20 17:31:57 1991
 
-
To: bradsi
 
-
Cc: bradc; braddir; dosmktg; lizsi; w-carrin; w-maria
 
-
Subject: PC Week and DR DOS
 
-
Date: Fri Sep 20 17:32:48 PDT 1991
 
-
 
-
 
-
Carrine's great work got us the oppurtunity to feed pc week some info on where to look for bugs with dr dos. I have had a couple of conversations with lenny bailes who is helping with the ms-dos 5 versus dr-dos 5 evaluation process.
 
-
 
-
Today tom and i talked to him. on the negative side i probably brought up one two many things for him to look at. it is difficult to appropriately and professionally try and trash your competitor. also on the negative side, lenny clearly seems to be a dr dos fan. to be fair i think he is sincere and is trying to be balanced.
 
-
 
-
also on the negative side he did tells us that under 1 meg dr dos 6 was better than ms-dos 5 on 7 out of 10 machines they tested. no real details but i think the differences will be small.
 
-
 
-
on the positive side they did themselves find some of the setup problems (such as poor updating to config.sys) and he has passed on tp the pc weeks labs some of these configurations we suggested they look at that we uncovered with dr dos 5. he was also intrigued by some of the data from yesterday's dr-dos 6 test, in particular tom's problems when he entered a ton of nested directory names.
 
-
 
-
http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/0000/PX00964.pdf
 
-
 
-
--
 
-
court documents in the case of Comes v. Microsoft.
 
-
 
-
 
-
tonyka tests DR-DOS 6.0 ..
 
-
 
-
From: tonyka Thu Sep 19 18:44:04 1991
 
-
To: tomle
 
-
Cc: brentk; dosdev; jefflo; vangard
 
-
Subject: DR-DOS 6.0 Testing (9/19)
 
-
 
-
 
-
DR DOS beats us on a 386 system by 12,560 bytes conventional; their EMM386 is a combined XMS provider and expanded memory manager. I don't understand why MS DOS only gives 95kb UMB; maybe I need to include some region on emm386 line.
 
-
 
-
..
 
-
 
-
 
-
1) Please include All bugs in DR-DOS that are not in MS-DOS from Intel TESTMEM test suite Boundary test:
 
-
 
-
Allocating more (expanded memory) pages than available in system
 
-
EMM did not return the expected results (returned 12 instead of 9A).
 
-
 
-
DTK 386 cold boot/hang problem:
 
-
 
-
After installing DR 6 on this machine, cold boot always results in a "Cannot load file". Press a key to retry." When press a key, the machine will boot fine. Warm boot always work without this problem.
 
-
 
-
Also there's intermittent hang after exiting EDITOR. It hung on me twice today. Haven't seen these problems happen on another machine.
 
-
 
-
Warm boot with HIDOS.SYS installed
 
-
gives "Warning: Address line A20 already enabled."
 
-
 
-
..
 
-
 
-
2) Anything you did not like about DR-DOS
 
-
 
-
DR DOS reports version as 3.31; no lie table and programs won't run.
 
-
 
-
 
-
Their EDITOR looks antique (compared to ours); haven't used WORDSTAR for ages.
 
-
 
-
..
 
-
 
-
 
-
3) Anything you like about DR-DOS that we should add to future MS-DOS versions
 
-
 
-
DR MEM program output looks sharp: layout is clearer and offers more info than ours.
 
-
 
-
DOSBOOK online help looks pretty fancy and helpful.
 
-
 
-
 
-
DR SETUP lets user tune system after installation. This concept is good but their implementation is not useful enough.
 
-
 
-
..
 
-
 
-
Privileged Material Redacted
 
-
 
-
 
-
http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/0000/PX00963.pdf
 
-
 
-
From brade Fri Sep 20 17:31:57 1991
 
-
To: bradsi
 
-
Cc: bradc; braddir; dosmktg; lizsi; w-carrin; w-maria
 
-
Subject: PC Week and DR DOS
 
-
Date: Fri Sep 20 17:32:48 PDT 1991
 
-
 
-
 
-
Carrine's great work got us the oppurtunity to feed pc week some info on where to look for bugs with dr dos. I have had a couple of conversations with lenny bailes who is helping with the ms-dos 5 versus dr-dos 5 evaluation process.
 
-
 
-
Today tom and i talked to him. on the negative side i probably brought up one two many things for him to look at. it is difficult to appropriately and professionally try and trash your competitor. also on the negative side, lenny clearly seems to be a dr dos fan. to be fair i think he is sincere and is trying to be balanced.
 
-
 
-
also on the negative side he did tells us that under 1 meg dr dos 6 was better than ms-dos 5 on 7 out of 10 machines they tested. no real details but i think the differences will be small.
 
-
 
-
on the positive side they did themselves find some of the setup problems (such as poor updating to config.sys) and he has passed on tp the pc weeks labs some of these configurations we suggested they look at that we uncovered with dr dos 5. he was also intrigued by some of the data from yesterday's dr-dos 6 test, in particular tom's problems when he entered a ton of nested directory names.
 
-
 
-
http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/0000/PX00964.pdf
 
-
 
-
--
 
-
court documents in the case of Comes v. Microsoft.
 
-
 
-
== Allchin: make sure DR-DOS has problems in the future .. ==
 
-
 
-
>From bradsi Fri Sep 91 10:01:22 PDT
 
-
To bradc; jimail; johnlu; mikemur; paulma; russs; steveb; tonya
 
-
Cc: mackm
 
-
Subject: dri/novell/ibm
 
-
 
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.. drdos has problems running windows today.
 
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And I assume will have more problems in the futire.
 
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-
..
 
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To: bradsi
 
-
Subject: RE: dri/novell/ibm
 
-
Date Fri Sep 27 18:26:52 PDT 1991
 
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-
You should make sure it has problems in the future :)
 
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jim
 
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>From bradc Fri Sep 27 18:35:22 1991
 
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To: bradsi
 
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Cc: bradc; richab; richf; loaya
 
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Subject: FW: FYI - Windows message
 
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Date Fri Sep 27 18:36:31 PDT 1991
 
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I asked to have this forwarded to me.
 
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Two cents from richf and I;
 
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1) The check for dr dos better be perfect, otherwize you could be in a heep of
 
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trouble ..
 
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4) The PC-DOS statement is problematic if ibm calls dr dos pc dos 6 so we think
 
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that we have to not state ms-dos or pc-dos directly
 
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we can get the message out that they don't work with windows without seeming so
 
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manipulative. We need to say the right thing so that people get the right
 
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message - we are helping users by giving them info that windows is only tsted
 
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on ms-dos.
 
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http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/0000/PX00978.pdf
 
-
--
 
-
 
-
court documents in the case of Comes v. Microsoft.
 

Current revision

This index deals with Comes vs Microsoft court exhibits which offer a glance at the history of Microsoft abuse. For a concise summary of some of the exhibits, see "Petition text - overview".

Contents

Exclusion

Testing/Sabotage

FUD

Attack Plans

REMARK - D.M.:

"You never sent me a response on the question of what things an [application] would do that would make it run with MS-DOS and not run with DR-DOS," Bill Gates wrote in 1988. His earlier email? "I am not looking for something they cant get around. I am looking for something their current binary fails on."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/1999/05/03/more_gates_smoking_emails_support/

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