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== MS: don't mention putting the browser in the OS .. ==
 
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From: Nathan Myhrvold
 
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Sent Sunday Febuary 15, 1998 12:37 PM
 
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To: Bill Gates; Tod Nielsen; Brad Chase; David Cole; Joe Belfiore; Mich Mathews; Greg Shaw Corp. PR gregshaw); Tom Pilla; Alison Obrien; Bill Neukom (LCA); David Heiner (LCA); Steve Ballmer; Mitch Mathews; Eric Rudder; Yusuf Mehdi; Steve Ballmer; Paul Martz; Jim Allchin; (Exchange)
 
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Subject: RE: browser in the OS
 
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Saying "put the browser in the OS" is already a statement that is prejudicial to us. The name "Browser" suggests a separate thing. I would NOT phrase the survey, or other things only in terms of "put the browser in the OS".
 
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Instead you need to ask a more neutral question about how the internet technology needs to merge with local computing. I have been pretty successful in trying this on various journalists and industry people.
 
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Microsoft has a vision to integrate local computing with Internet computing. This means building the fundemental Internet protocols into the operating system.
 
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Netscape is on a different strategy. They are NOT attempting to make local data, or local PC computing mesh smoothly with the Internet. Instead their strategy is to replace local computing by integrating more and more functionality into their software. They are creating new APIs to turn their browser into a high level operating system, which will obviate use of a local operating system, like Windows.
 
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Microsoft is telling its millions of existing users that their is a path for them to use the Internet metaphor both locally and remotely. Netscape is telling people to put with the difference between their local PC and the Internet and that over time you will throw out your old software in favor of new software and services which operate on top of the Netscape platform.
 
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From: Bill Gates
 
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Sent: Saturday, Febuary 14, 1998 10:42 AM
 
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Cc: Bill Neukom (LCA); David Heiner (LCA); Steve Ballmer; Mitch Mathews; Eric Rudder; Yusuf Mehdi; Steve Ballmer; Nathan Myhrvold; Paul Martz; Jim Allchin; (Exchange)
 
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Only by doing a document that EXPLAINS why we are putting the browser into the operating system will people start to have more sympathy for why this makes sense and understand that the government shouldn't be blocking this.
 
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It would HELP ME IMMENSELY to have a survey showing that 90% of developers believe that putting the browser into the OS makes sense .. Ideally we would have a survey like this done before I appear at the Senate on March 3rd.
 
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http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/122106/PLEX0_2846.pdf
 

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billg: don't underestimate an OPEN Internet ..

From: billg Sent: Thursday, April 06, 1995 2:55 PM To: craigmu; nathanm; paulma; peteh; russs Cc: brianf Subject: Internet as a business tool


I know I am a broken record on this but I think our plans continue to underestimate the importance of an OPEN unified approach for the internet.

The demo I saw today when Windows 95 was showing its Internet capability was someone calling up the Fedex page on the internet and typing in a package number and getting the status.

Imagine how much work it would have been for Fedex to call us up and get that running on MSN and negociate with us. Instead they just set it up. A very simple way to reach out to their customers.

The continued enhancement of the browser standards is amazing to me. Now its security and 3d and tables - what will it within the next several years? Intelligent controls, directory - everything we are trying to define as standards.

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The analogy here is that the major sin that Microsoft made with Netware was to let Novell offer a better (actually smaller & faster, with simpler protocol) client for networking. This got to critical mass and can now evolve both client and server together. Hence we had and still have a really hard time displacing Novell at the server.

In fact I am still of the opinion that we will not really deliver a really telling blow against Netware until we make some significant user-visible, client-side feature that Novell would have trouble matching in their servers. One of the reasons why I remain such a fanatic OFS believer.

http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/122106/PLEX0_2273.pdf


sinofsky: write to Winsock ..

From: Steven Sinofsky To: Christopher Payne ? Cc: Doug Henrich; James J allard; John Ludwig; Russel Siegeiman Subject: Internet stuff Date: Friday June 10 1994 PM

Steve -

Thanks for your quick response and the additional info, Very useful.


What we should be doing is getting as many third parties writing as many internet things on top of WinSock as possible, including as many WWW. Gopher, TN3270, etc clients as they can afford to do. We'd also love to see more server side work. Such as WWW and Gopher servers of commercial grade.

http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/122106/PLEX0_2118.pdf


jimail: losing a Franchise

From: Jim Allchin (exchange) Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 1997 5:17 PM To: Bill Gates Cc: Paul Maritz

Subject: "Losing a Franchise - The Microsoft Windows Story" (a new harvard Case study)

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1. Why are we doing so many things cross-platform? Are there more Macs, OS/2 or Unix clients today as a % or less than a year ago .. I consider this cross-platform issue a disease within Microsoft .. We should be asking for specific innovations to restrict to Windows ..

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I see the same pattern here as with Novell a few years ago. Some people believed we should drop our work in TCP/IP and only do IPX/SPX work. It took significant effort in order to convince the PSD team to accept TCP for Windows 95. Why? Because we were in copy mode of Novell. We are doing it again. There is a time for this clone strategy, but the better long term approach is always to attack from a more strategic perspective.

http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/122106/PLEX0_2658.pdf


nathanm: Internet strategy ..

From: Nathan Myhrvold Sent: Monday, April 24, 1995 8:10 AM To: Bill Gates Subject: FW: Internet stratagy

FYI - feedback from Blackbird group on my email

Nathan

From: John Shewchuk To: nathanm; patfer; russs Subject: FW: Internet strategy Date: Thursday, April 20, 1995 7:50 AM


Very interesting memo - the Blackbird MSN/Internet.CorporateNet issue has been widely discussed on the Blackboard PM team for some time and there is a general consensus with the overall technical direction described here.

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if we wanted to move forward on this, in addition to the obvious issues that we have been thinking about such as moving Blackbird objects across TCP/IP networks, creating a server SDK and so on .. Blackbird uses HTML superset and is extending it with OLE, Forms3 and other Windows assets. It also includes security and billing.

ideally, the Blackbird front end would include a great Web browser and it would seamlessly integrate access to servers on the Internet: using a plain vanilla HTML/HTTP as well as Blackbird servers. This is our current stratagy, but tactically we are not there yet. Blackbird technology will not be generally available for a few months after MSN 1.0 ships.

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Given the current state of the internet and given our size and resource level, we are going to bootstrap our internet service by leapfrogging the current front end technology and distributing our own front end .. Over time (like within 3 months) we will be using more of the Internet infrastructure.

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- We will move to using TCP/IP, and thus will benefit from the ever cheaper connectivity which is a central part of the internet.

- We will allow access to any Internet service.

http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/122106/PLEX0_2281.pdf

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