Comments on: Now Comes the OOXML Patent Tax (Microsoft Lied) http://techrights.org/2008/03/08/ooxml-patent-tax-introduced/ Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom Fri, 25 Nov 2016 09:41:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.14 By: CoolGuy http://techrights.org/2008/03/08/ooxml-patent-tax-introduced/comment-page-1/#comment-6575 Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:17:53 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/03/08/ooxml-patent-tax-introduced/#comment-6575 Most of FOSS are not aware of the legal issues. We are developers and lest concerned about these shaddy deals. If it were not for this website I would have just used opensuse/mono/etc.

Atleast the issues about novell/mono/ooxml are coming to light and as Roy had predicted about m$ – it has come true.

I dont know what stand novell will take now. They are already a sunken ship the day they sold out to m$.

But I think that this had happened for good – atleast the GPL3 is much more stronger now due to novell :P Everytime m$ tried to hurt GPL – it has come out more stronger than before and making m$ more weaker. Too bad novell and opensuse paid the price for it.

I did dowload the opensuse live cd to try it out…liked it a bit, maybe had recommended it to few ppl. but now I stay away from such companies and recommend others to use fedora/ubuntu/debian.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/03/08/ooxml-patent-tax-introduced/comment-page-1/#comment-6552 Sat, 08 Mar 2008 13:21:33 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/03/08/ooxml-patent-tax-introduced/#comment-6552 Hey Philluminati,

This is the first time I see your real name. Thanks for the compliments..I notice an oopise in my last comment. It should say “others and I”. I still remember the messages from that time. Andreas was dismissive and hopeless. We could not change a thing. He said the deal was irrevocable when we were still begging for it to be retracted, simply canceled. But that’s history anyway…

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By: Philluminati http://techrights.org/2008/03/08/ooxml-patent-tax-introduced/comment-page-1/#comment-6551 Sat, 08 Mar 2008 13:12:50 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/03/08/ooxml-patent-tax-introduced/#comment-6551 It’s good that you are here doing this work and keeping your eye on Microsoft after other people have dismissed these concerns.

You were and continue to be right to do so and this article proves it.

Microsoft’s “high negative” is not merely a perception nor a natural result of having a popular product but the result of being a price-fixing, overcharging, unfair, over-restricting, anti-competitive, anti-compatible, poor-software-writing, user-needs-ignoring, tax-fiddling, compulsive-lying abuse monopolist!

This site, the FOSS companies and the people closely involved are going to be the people that save the world from another generation of Microsoft Lock in, provided they continue to do such a good job to bring these issues into the foreground.

Phillip Taylor :-)

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/03/08/ooxml-patent-tax-introduced/comment-page-1/#comment-6549 Sat, 08 Mar 2008 09:45:13 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/03/08/ooxml-patent-tax-introduced/#comment-6549 See what we wrote about this awful decision in Europe before [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11].

As for Novell, it’s the one sellout which started an avalanche. It was the precedence Microsoft needed, just as myself and I predicted days after the deal had been signed. I was on the OpenSUSE mailing lists at the time.

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By: markus http://techrights.org/2008/03/08/ooxml-patent-tax-introduced/comment-page-1/#comment-6548 Sat, 08 Mar 2008 09:19:29 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/03/08/ooxml-patent-tax-introduced/#comment-6548 Nice article.

However I must protest that the EU – their decision some months was actually _bad_. The EU said that all the patents that MS has still apply (!) which means that the EU has strengthened MS position directly. :(
The patent law suits are just postponed to a later day, as you can see how quickly MS finds new allies, i.e. Novell.

Also, the cost to gain documentation is not free, instead the EU has only capped it. This is outrageous, the EU started a law suit but in fact ended by strengthening MS position.

This is exactly why MS thinks it can get away with their supposedly free OOXML standard. After they bought Novell and Novell buckled in favour of the money, what opposition would hold against MS if even the EU supports MS point of view?

The law suit about interoperability started earlier, because of fear of the multimedia market. And now, did the EU change the market AT ALL?

No. Nokia, Apple and Google had a MUCH bigger influence on the video market than the EU with all its useless laws and regulations.

This is so sad… The EU does nothing seriously against de facto monopolies. They should rather encourage a network of smaller companies work together, or they should encourage grants which go to the general public instead of being held by pseudo-patents.

Microsoft tries to prevent any competition on its monopoly. The XNA license explicitely forbids using it on i.e. Linux. OOXML is of course tied to MS products (but actually there are many reasons why OOXML should not be allowed to become an ISO standard. I have no illusion that it will, money is just too important.)

What is left actually?
Noone is really surprised that Microsoft speaks with a splitted tongue. Same old company tactic. Over time, Microsoft will shrink, simply because its products will slowly become less and less important. (Its just sad that Google plays a bigger role than Linux-Desktop …)

But the one to blame here actually is Novell, because Novell sold their soul with the Microsoft deal.

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