Comments on: It’s Red Hat’s Day Again http://techrights.org/2009/06/24/red-hat-profit-rise/ Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom Tue, 03 Jan 2017 04:31:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.14 By: The Mad Hatter http://techrights.org/2009/06/24/red-hat-profit-rise/comment-page-2/#comment-68821 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:02:24 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=13844#comment-68821 OK guys, settle down. Officially the year end is July 25th. The 10K last year was filed on July 31st, it doesn’t say what time of the day it was filed, but these things are often filed after the close of business so as to not affect the stock prices that day. And of course Microsoft’s offices are on the US West Coast, which means GMT -8, while I’m at GMT -5.

So I stand by my statement that I’ll be reading it in August, because it will probably be released late enough on the 31st that I’ll be in bed.

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By: David "Lefty" Schlesinger http://techrights.org/2009/06/24/red-hat-profit-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-68812 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:24:52 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=13844#comment-68812 The folks who are “digging into the truth” about Microsoft aren’t even clear on when the fiscal year ends.

Neat-o.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2009/06/24/red-hat-profit-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-68811 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:22:02 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=13844#comment-68811 It’s around July 25th and it will be as bad as the last time.

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By: The Mad Hatter http://techrights.org/2009/06/24/red-hat-profit-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-68809 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:18:26 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=13844#comment-68809 Roy, that was a spelling mistake, wasn’t it? Didn’t you mean:

Assholes of Evil?

Really, I think that’s a far more accurate description.

For those who haven’t done so, get rid of your Microsoft shares now. When the year end report is published in August, the stock is going to nose dive.

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By: JohnD http://techrights.org/2009/06/24/red-hat-profit-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-68793 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:51:29 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=13844#comment-68793 “Fast forward to the present, and the Red Hat’s JBoss business is growing faster than Red Hat’s Linux platform business. The numbers seem to show that Red Hat has a killer software combo.”

From this line I’d gather JBoss is doing most of the driving at RH, and not RHEL. I’m guessing they don’t break out how much of the JBoss revenue comes from Windows installs versus Linux installs. Sounds to me like RH is taking a cue from the “Axis” and has started to play “bucket” games. Perhaps the SEC will investigate them next.

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By: eet http://techrights.org/2009/06/24/red-hat-profit-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-68465 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:25:42 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=13844#comment-68465 That is correct. Although Roy’s arguments not only have holes in them but most of the time are so ill-founded that they don’t count as arguments, Roy has developed evading hard, to-the-point discussion into an art-form. I used to dissect Roy’s ‘articles’ bit-by-bit and provre him wrong – and was just branded a ‘shill’ at the end of the day anyhow! Roy simply drew he discussion on and off-topic till nobody following it could remember what it originally was about. And also take in account that Roys puts up loads of crap, errr ‘articles’, every day without researching them. That is his tactics to keep them from being examined too closely.

While you are still busy showing that one article was just a heap of horse-manure, Roy will have put out another ten articles, and hardly anyone will be following the discussion and really see what a sham Roy’s ‘argument’ is.

So I adapted and made my way of answering more efficient.

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By: karablak http://techrights.org/2009/06/24/red-hat-profit-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-68225 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:17:56 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=13844#comment-68225 Ha! You’re just trying to pull our attention away from the fact that this article is about a single phrase and not about Red Ha… oh, right.

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By: David "Lefty" Schlesinger http://techrights.org/2009/06/24/red-hat-profit-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-68216 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:27:24 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=13844#comment-68216 The trolls try to misstate it.

Yeah, those lousy trolls. Have you ever managed to determine what the going rate for a Microsoft troll is? I’m just curious; I mean, are they paid by the posting, or by the word, or is it an hourly thing, or what?

Look, you’re simply being disingenuous here, Roy. Anyone who looks at this site can see that it’s much more propaganda than “journalism”, and it’s pretty clear that you choose your words quite carefully (e.g. “I don’t know Mark Fink”–in spite of having heard of him, mentioned him, exchanged comments with him, offered to let him edit a web page, etc.)

I’m sure you knew exactly the association most people make with the phrase “axis of evil”, and had that quite firmly in mind. (You’re not a master of subtlety, have I mentioned that…?)

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By: Sabayon User http://techrights.org/2009/06/24/red-hat-profit-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-68207 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:11:04 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=13844#comment-68207

I remember one person posting a link to a comparison of Mono and Java that purported to show the superiority of Mono.

Let me guess – they were dismissed offhand as astroturfers, right? As “PR agents” and “trolls”. Right? [1]

you need to find the holes in Roy’s argument

[1] Unfortunately for your argument here, everyone knows what happens when you take the time to do that.

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By: Shane Coyle http://techrights.org/2009/06/24/red-hat-profit-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-68120 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:11:00 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=13844#comment-68120 Honestly, I didn’t even read the article before I commented, just saw the comment on the front page and had a witty rejoinder.

Hadn’t even read the conversation till now, I think it’s mostly figurative – once "W." uses a phrase prominently, it’s pretty much been watered down to near-joke already.

Mission Accomplished, for example.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2009/06/24/red-hat-profit-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-68119 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:04:58 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=13844#comment-68119 It’s a good thing I didn’t say “dark forces”. I’d be accused of comparing Steve Ballmer to Darth Vader or many other things that go under the same name.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2009/06/24/red-hat-profit-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-68118 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:02:37 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=13844#comment-68118 The point was that “axis of evil” is used t describe all sorts of things (and neither terrorists nor Nazi). The trolls try to misstate it.

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By: Shane Coyle http://techrights.org/2009/06/24/red-hat-profit-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-68116 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:58:33 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=13844#comment-68116 (And I thought “humor” was supposed to be funny…)

Ever since Adam Sandler debuted, they’ve had to relax that requirement.

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By: David "Lefty" Schlesinger http://techrights.org/2009/06/24/red-hat-profit-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-68065 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:51:11 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=13844#comment-68065 (And I thought “humor” was supposed to be funny…)

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By: David "Lefty" Schlesinger http://techrights.org/2009/06/24/red-hat-profit-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-68063 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:47:48 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=13844#comment-68063 So, you don’t mean to equate Microsoft and Novell with Nazis, just terrorists…? Is that right…?

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By: aeshna23 http://techrights.org/2009/06/24/red-hat-profit-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-68061 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:44:33 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=13844#comment-68061 eet,

The problem is that your comments aren’t insightful. You simply waste our time with ideas that are easily countered. In contrast, I remember one person posting a link to a comparison of Mono and Java that purported to show the superiority of Mono. Or another people posting arguments that it is easier to support project based on Mono.

If you want to be useful as a critic, you need to find the holes in Roy’s argument rather than taking cheap shots. And there are holes in Roy’s arguments, just as there are holes in all human arguments outside of proofs in math. Please think more deeply about the issue here!

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By: eet http://techrights.org/2009/06/24/red-hat-profit-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-67972 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:30:56 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=13844#comment-67972 …also good to know that you still regard anyone who doesn’t share your paranoia a troll.

Oh, btw, how come you have stopped censoring my comments on your blog? I can now actually post comments without having to go over proxies. Neither do you seem to delete my comments anymore?

Which brings me to the question, why don’t you attach these slanderous signatures to you critics’ comments anymore? I used to have 4 lines of very colourful abuse and slur attached to everyone of my comments automatically – which looked quite funny when I only posted a one-liner! Also, you other critics have ‘lost’ these funny little insulting signatures of yours.

Have you gone soft in your old age or is it only the new blog software preventing you from your old censoring-habits.

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By: eet http://techrights.org/2009/06/24/red-hat-profit-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-67959 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:22:38 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=13844#comment-67959 You mean ‘slander’. Nothing to with ‘humour’ – go look it up in a dictionary.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2009/06/24/red-hat-profit-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-67875 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:34:04 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=13844#comment-67875 “Axis of evil” has nothing to do with Nazis, but it doesn’t prevent the usual trolls from turning humour into Godwin’s law.

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By: lalala http://techrights.org/2009/06/24/red-hat-profit-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-67860 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:09:39 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=13844#comment-67860 Who are trying to kid? You people fight anyone that doesn’t agree with you. Anyone that doesn’t agree with Roy 100% is labeled a paid MS shill, and his friend astralknight constantly pastes the same comments against people on Digg & Reddit about them being part of Roy’s made up Microsoft “perception management” team.

Astralknight is only one example, all of Roy’s friends attack anyone that doesn’t agree with BN.

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