Comments on: Novell Starts Buying Its Own Stock (Sign of Weakness) http://techrights.org/2008/05/14/novell-buybacks-start/ Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom Fri, 25 Nov 2016 09:41:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.14 By: ZiggyFish http://techrights.org/2008/05/14/novell-buybacks-start/comment-page-3/#comment-9861 Thu, 15 May 2008 11:00:20 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/14/novell-buybacks-start/#comment-9861 Niklas (sic!) Koswinkle:

I would agree with you if you had something back up your position. All I’ve heard from you is either FUD for personal attacks.

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By: Niklas (sic!) Koswinkle http://techrights.org/2008/05/14/novell-buybacks-start/comment-page-3/#comment-9860 Thu, 15 May 2008 10:53:36 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/14/novell-buybacks-start/#comment-9860 Ziggy, it is Roy who has to prove HIS outrageous theories, not me.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/05/14/novell-buybacks-start/comment-page-2/#comment-9858 Thu, 15 May 2008 10:25:40 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/14/novell-buybacks-start/#comment-9858 I have a follow-up post on this buyback story coming shortly. By the way, in order to demonstrate Novell success (or lack thereof) as a function of time one can consider # of employees. Guess what? it’s going down. Another criterion could be market cap. Even executives/CEOs shuffle.

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By: ZiggyFish http://techrights.org/2008/05/14/novell-buybacks-start/comment-page-2/#comment-9857 Thu, 15 May 2008 10:12:37 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/14/novell-buybacks-start/#comment-9857 Niklas (sic!) Koswinkle:

your the one that is ‘desperately searching’ to prove Roy wrong. And you haven’t found any evidence to prove him wrong.

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By: Shane Coyle http://techrights.org/2008/05/14/novell-buybacks-start/comment-page-2/#comment-9856 Thu, 15 May 2008 09:49:31 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/14/novell-buybacks-start/#comment-9856 Well, here is a comment/quote I had once posted regarding the general idea of stock buybacks – anyone familiar with my articles may recall, I am finance-impaired as well:

A bit about buybacks for those of us who are finance-impaired (me):

Buy-backs are intended to give investors increased confidence. The logic goes something like this: if a company buys back its own stock, the share price should go up – first, there are fewer shares outstanding after the buy-back so each share represents a greater portion of the company’s total equity, and second, with fewer shares outstanding the company’s earnings per share and book value per share figures should look more attractive, which might have a positive effect on the stock. A buy-back is also said to counteract the dilutive nature of employee share incentive schemes. But buy-backs do not always result in the share price going up. For one thing, the company has had to spend some of its cash reserves – which really belong to the shareholders anyway. While the buy-back seems to counteract the dilutive effect of employee stock options, all companies are really doing is transferring the problem: the dilutive effect of the employee share incentive schemes is now directly visible on its balance sheet where that huge pot of cash used to be. But just as importantly, by definition buying back stock means that the company feels there is no better way of using that cash reserve than ploughing it into the stock markets to buy its own shares – it does not feel that investing that cash in additional personnel, assets, intellectual property, or even other businesses would be a better use of that money. For some, it could be seen as the last desperate measure of a management team which has run out of inspiration.

FWIW

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By: Niklas (sic!) Koswinkle http://techrights.org/2008/05/14/novell-buybacks-start/comment-page-2/#comment-9854 Thu, 15 May 2008 09:35:38 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/14/novell-buybacks-start/#comment-9854 Perhaps there is none? Is that my mistake? It is no ME who is desperately searching for bad news about Novell.

One thing is for sure: Google Trends is NO source for reliable info on stocks.

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By: ZiggyFish http://techrights.org/2008/05/14/novell-buybacks-start/comment-page-2/#comment-9853 Thu, 15 May 2008 09:29:20 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/14/novell-buybacks-start/#comment-9853 Show me the graph from a ‘serious source of information’

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By: Niklas (sic!) Koswinkle http://techrights.org/2008/05/14/novell-buybacks-start/comment-page-1/#comment-9852 Thu, 15 May 2008 08:49:37 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/14/novell-buybacks-start/#comment-9852 I realize that you didn’t bother to search for anthing else than ‘Novell’.

Try ‘Sun Java’. Yep, it’s going downwards.

Now for the funny part: Search ‘Red Hat’. Wow. That’s a sharp decline.

What does this tell us? Are all values in the world rapidly falling? No, it’s only Google Trends which exaggerates the developments. Google Trends is NOT a serious source of information. Tell me you haven’t even realized that they don’t indicate any units on the y-axis? Yeah, that’s right; you can’t tell whether it indicates cents or millions…

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/05/14/novell-buybacks-start/comment-page-1/#comment-9838 Thu, 15 May 2008 04:46:25 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/14/novell-buybacks-start/#comment-9838 It would have been the same without Microsoft, I suppose, but the problem is that with Microsoft’s help Novell is hurting IBM, Sun, Red Hat and others for a variety of reasons. Many of those companies promote Free software.

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By: ZiggyFish http://techrights.org/2008/05/14/novell-buybacks-start/comment-page-1/#comment-9837 Thu, 15 May 2008 04:40:32 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/14/novell-buybacks-start/#comment-9837 if you look at novels history, you will see that Novel have been going down hill since the start of the Microsoft – Novel deal

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By: Paulo http://techrights.org/2008/05/14/novell-buybacks-start/comment-page-1/#comment-9724 Wed, 14 May 2008 11:45:16 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/14/novell-buybacks-start/#comment-9724 This post is a total joke. I have been to this site a few times and after reading this post, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Before posting any ridiculous comments on share buybacks, perhaps you should sharpen your business skills just a ‘wee’ bit.

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By: Niklas (sic!) Koswinkle http://techrights.org/2008/05/14/novell-buybacks-start/comment-page-1/#comment-9707 Wed, 14 May 2008 09:27:20 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/14/novell-buybacks-start/#comment-9707 If you want to see a sign of weakness, you don’t have to look any further than this blog: It’s hilarious the read to your little, un-enlightened ‘analyses’ of the stock value of Novell. Firstly, it is very obvious that you have no idea what you are talking about. But that’s not the funny bit. The funny bit is that you seem so desperate to see a correlation between a business-decision, that you think of as immoral, and the economic well-being of the actors who made that decision.

Aren’t you educated enough to understand that the latter hasn’t got anything to do with the former? Are you really expecting a financial backlash due to a politically incorrect decision?

You don’t know anything about the real word; but we already knew that…

For the record: Novell is doing much better than Sun which you – in spite of evidence to the contrary – tout as defender of freedom.

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