Comments on: Why Is Mono in Fedora? Nobody Knows… It’s Possibly a Secret http://techrights.org/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/ Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom Fri, 25 Nov 2016 09:41:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.14 By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/comment-page-12/#comment-13347 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:51:02 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/#comment-13347 ‘Breslauer Illuminatus’,

We wrote about Mono in Debian before. You can search the archives.

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By: Breslauer Illuminatus http://techrights.org/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/comment-page-12/#comment-13345 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:20:21 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/#comment-13345 Dear Mr. Slated,

A terrible misunderstanding happened.

I was just pointing that the very presence of Mono in the Debian distribution warrants a separate Debian-bashing article. Why only bash Novell and Red Hat, when you have such a nice and clear target?

Debian being Debian is much better suited for any conspiracy theory, especially one that will suggest unfair play, cabals and secret organizations within secret departments.

I am truly sorry, that I allowed myself to be this misunderstood. Please take my most humble apologies. This misunderstanding is just a byproduct of my poor command of the English language.

Regarding your other valid points; my IQ is definitely different from an IQ of a carrot, a carrot usually does not have negative IQ.

Unfortunately I did not exactly got your references to the Republican morale and juvenile detention centres, while both of them may be very well known to you, they’re not that clear for someone not acknowledged with the joys of the American way of life. If you could shed a little light on these for a humble Breslauer, I’d be most grateful.

Sincerely

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By: casualvisitor http://techrights.org/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/comment-page-12/#comment-13336 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:03:20 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/#comment-13336 I’m definitely not who you think I am (whoever that maybe) but be assured that I will leave you guys alone now to indulge in whatever sick games you’re into. Freaking wackos…

Bye!

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/comment-page-12/#comment-13335 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:57:57 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/#comment-13335 Sebastian (if that’s really you), nobody forces you to come to this Web site. The Web has over 100 million domains. Leave us alone please. Thank you.

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By: casualvisitor http://techrights.org/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/comment-page-12/#comment-13334 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:56:16 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/#comment-13334 But if he is your pet that makes everything he says A-OK, of course.

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By: casualvisitor http://techrights.org/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/comment-page-11/#comment-13333 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:55:18 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/#comment-13333 Judging from the rude language, I would rather suspect Slated than me, here.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/comment-page-11/#comment-13332 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:53:31 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/#comment-13332 Is that you, eet, with a new nymshift? Your IP seems suspicious enough, never mind the bogus details you put in.

The trolling sandbox is there —>>>

Thank you.

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By: casualvisitor http://techrights.org/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/comment-page-11/#comment-13329 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:47:54 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/#comment-13329 Slated, if you are impotent of discussing without getting personally abusive, go to a shrink.

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By: Slated http://techrights.org/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/comment-page-11/#comment-13320 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:46:44 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/#comment-13320 @Breslauer Illuminatus pseudonymous Troll

“…which conspiracy is responsible for the terrible fact that mono is included in the Debian distribution”

Which conspiracy is responsible for you having the IQ of a carrot, and the morals of a Republican?

In the words of Tom “Spot” Callaway, Fedora Engineering Manager:

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We are not going to go violate the GPLv2 because “everyone else is doing it”
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IOW two wrongs do not make a right.

Or didn’t they teach you that in the juvenile detention centre.

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By: Slated http://techrights.org/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/comment-page-11/#comment-13317 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:37:17 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/#comment-13317 @Roy

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In the words of Slashdot, “you must be new here.”
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LOL!

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By: Slated http://techrights.org/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/comment-page-10/#comment-13316 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:35:24 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/#comment-13316 @Chris Lees

“Fedora contains Gnome. Gnome contains Mono. Mono does not contain the patented parts of .NET. Bibbity-bobbity-boo”

All of .NET is patented, Chris.

Some of that patented technology has been released under ECMA’s RAND by Microsoft, in “a covenant to not sue” – i.e. “we promise not to sue”. A covenant is not a patent grant. The whole basis of the RAND is “trust”, nothing more.

How far do you trust Microsoft, the sworn enemy of Free Software (“Linux is a cancer”)?

“Mono belongs in Fedora.”

Even the Fedora Engineering Manager doesn’t think so:

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We will never include Mono, or anything that is obviously patented without a patent grant in writing that permits unrestricted use and redistribution, as per the terms of the GPL. We are not going to go violate the GPLv2 because “everyone else is doing it”.
[/quote]

~ Tom “Spot” Callaway, Fedora Engineering Manager.
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-extras-list/2005-March/msg00602.html

Where is Fedora’s explicit patent grant to use Microsoft’s patented technology, Chris?

Who’s the “idiot” now?
You, if you trust Microsoft.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/comment-page-10/#comment-13261 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 06:12:42 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/#comment-13261 Chris Lees.

Gnome contains Mono.

Interesting. Jeff Waugh would have something to say about it.

Mono does not contain the patented parts of .NET.

In the words of Slashdot, “you must be new here.”

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By: anon http://techrights.org/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/comment-page-10/#comment-13257 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 05:47:13 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/#comment-13257 Nice conversation..the facts remain distorted , but those bent on a M$ world where their their technology rules are in for a huge surprise, even though the attempt has been made to give linux a wart.

Well you can huff and puff all you want, but ole wolfy is no match for common sense and the power of OSS , and those that are behind it that still have their wits about them.

We all know about the mighty M$ and its IP rights, OOXML atttempts and the ever stinky novel/M$ agreement, for which we stilll have no clue whats behind it….and now we learn apparantly there were very ‘iffy’ reasons mono was included in fedora to begin with; as if that would surprise anyone ?

A rat by any other name is still a rat , no matter how much you try to spin it in your favor..you just forgot to figure in the fact that not everyone is a drone that has no cognitive abilities to rationalize the truth from the pile of rotting disease your so fond of calling mono.

Some of us dont have nosepins on and are able to breathe freely the stench, and steer clear of it.

It would indeed be a perfect world where M$ and OSS could coexist peacefully, but then their stockholders would get angry I suspect, just as their employees did over the Vista mess, if however apparantly no one important listened ; so I guess that says alot about said company, and oh boy we’re ready to rush out and trust them aren’t we.

OH and btw..gnome does contain mono you right, but then so does GTK it would seem , or at least a good mention about its wrappers I guess..but you know what this is OSS , where choice is very relevant and it offers those involved in it the ability to redirect focus elsewhere if need be.

I dont like things shoved down my throat ( especially buggy, OLD ones ), but apparantly you do. Offer mono to me in the repos, sure fine whatever,- but forcing it on unsuspecting users is a crime to OSS in light especially of the OOXML mess ETC.ETC.ETC.,,,, and all you supporting it should be ashamed. Why do you trust M$ so, I really think that is the golden question ;)

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By: Chris Lees http://techrights.org/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/comment-page-10/#comment-13247 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 02:36:46 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/#comment-13247 You’re an idiot.

Fedora contains Gnome. Gnome contains Mono. Mono does not contain the patented parts of .NET. Bibbity-bobbity-boo, Mono belongs in Fedora.

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By: Breslauer Illuminatus http://techrights.org/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/comment-page-10/#comment-13236 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:38:29 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/#comment-13236 …which conspiracy is responsible for the terrible fact that mono is included in the Debian distribution, dear Mr. Schestowitz?
Is it the well-known non-existent Debian cabal?
Is this happening because of covert funding of the Debian project by the black ops section of Microsoft Counterintelligence Department (I mean the secret one)?
Is it part of the overwhelming conspiracy of aliens from Grophalanx 49?

…because it cannot be just an innocent Illuminati project, right?

I SAY: THESE QUESTIONS MUST BE ANSWERED.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/comment-page-9/#comment-13218 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:58:07 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/#comment-13218 It’s rendered fine over here. Simple <pre> section.

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By: fred a. http://techrights.org/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/comment-page-9/#comment-13217 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:55:20 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/#comment-13217 The section starting with “I’ve fully reviewed the archive now” is unreadable because the right menu thingys cover part of it. I will be happy when this shiny new website fad passes- a lot of sites make this same mistake. Doesn’t anyone read their own damned sites?

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By: Rupert F. http://techrights.org/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/comment-page-9/#comment-13214 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:52:04 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/#comment-13214 LOL

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By: Norm http://techrights.org/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/comment-page-9/#comment-13207 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:25:30 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/#comment-13207 Break out the tin-foil hats! The black helicopters are approaching! Keep an eye out for grassy knolls! This…might be…the end of Linux…as we know it! If anyone needs me, I’ll be in my abandoned missile silo in the Midwest, frantically rewriting Mono programs into something safer…like Fortran.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/comment-page-9/#comment-13123 Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:26:33 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/#comment-13123 ‘Sam Lada’ uses a bogus E-mail address and posts via anonymouse.org. eet uses it too and the writing style is similar, but it’s not enough to confirm that it’s that same Novell AstroTurfer (or ‘fan’).

Bear in mind that ‘eet’ (Beranger thinks its real name is Sebastian and he lives in Germany) is nymshifting very regularly before getting caught. He also posts from proxies and zombies in exotic countries.

Regardless, ‘Sam Lada’ (fake name), my source is close to Novell’s top management. I don’t need you to tell me that it’s a “conspiracy theory” (negative connotation). Conspiracy? For sure.

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