Comments on: Vista 7 Trojans Forecast and Microsoft Hardware Licences http://techrights.org/2009/11/18/vista-7-trojans-forecast/ Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom Fri, 25 Nov 2016 09:41:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.14 By: Yuhong Bao http://techrights.org/2009/11/18/vista-7-trojans-forecast/comment-page-1/#comment-76223 Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:43:58 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=22092#comment-76223 “Yes, the subscription model of very different. Microsoft tried to emulate it with forced upgrades. ”
Not exactly, but yes MS had tried real subscription models several times. But the difference is more fundamental, with proprietary web applications the code is stored on the server and clients cannot copy it at all, so the scarcity is not artificial. In contrast, with proprietary desktop applications the code is stored on the client, where it can easily be copied or reverse engineered.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2009/11/18/vista-7-trojans-forecast/comment-page-1/#comment-76191 Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:22:18 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=22092#comment-76191 Yes, the subscription model of very different. Microsoft tried to emulate it with forced upgrades.

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By: Yuhong Bao http://techrights.org/2009/11/18/vista-7-trojans-forecast/comment-page-1/#comment-76189 Fri, 27 Nov 2009 23:36:41 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=22092#comment-76189 “Artificial limits are always a bad idea. It is indicative of outdated business models. ”
Yea, I agree that artificial scarcity is fundamentally flawed. In fact I mentioned the Open Letter to Hobbyists before. The good thing about web applications is that it’s scarcity is not artificial, as the code is stored on the server and clients cannot directly copy it.

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By: your_friend http://techrights.org/2009/11/18/vista-7-trojans-forecast/comment-page-1/#comment-76040 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:36:09 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=22092#comment-76040 What is the difference between an artificial software restriction you must pay to remove and a hardware license you must purchase to be able to use all of your hardware?

The long term nature of this crime, or that others have done it, does not make the crime less offensive. I saw a link here about NT “server” and “workstation” being identical code with a few “flags” thrown in to reduce functionality of the workstation. A software company that sabotages it’s own code will think nothing of sabotaging other people’s code. The computer’s owner is the ultimate victim. How many examples of user sabotage do people need before they escape to software freedom? Reducing the abilities of Windows is like hanging sandbags on a pig, so that it might not fly as well as it could before.

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By: Yuhong Bao http://techrights.org/2009/11/18/vista-7-trojans-forecast/comment-page-1/#comment-76039 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:38:09 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=22092#comment-76039 “In many ways, 64-bit Windows has been weaker than GNU/Linux (Flash Player plugin for example).”
64-bit Chrome too. Part of it is because MS imposes stricter requirements on 64-bit code in Windows than on Linux. In particular, 64-bit Windows’ table-based SEH imposes restrictions on function prologs and epilogs, as well as requiring unwind tables to be generated by the JIT or compiler. 64-bit Linux has unwind tables too, but it is less important, since processor exceptions are handled by signals.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2009/11/18/vista-7-trojans-forecast/comment-page-1/#comment-75812 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:01:00 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=22092#comment-75812 Artificial limits are always a bad idea. It is indicative of outdated business models.

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By: Yuhong Bao http://techrights.org/2009/11/18/vista-7-trojans-forecast/comment-page-1/#comment-75798 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:33:38 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=22092#comment-75798 Actually, the 64-bit versions do have artificial limit, it is just that it is always higher than 4 GB. If the Home Premium edition’s limit of 16 GB RAM is not enough, you just go up to the Professional or Business edition, then problem solved.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2009/11/18/vista-7-trojans-forecast/comment-page-1/#comment-75767 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:58:07 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=22092#comment-75767 In many ways, 64-bit Windows has been weaker than GNU/Linux (Flash Player plugin for example).

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By: Yuhong Bao http://techrights.org/2009/11/18/vista-7-trojans-forecast/comment-page-1/#comment-75766 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:52:37 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=22092#comment-75766 “It ought to be disappointing that Microsoft cannot handle RAM sufficiently well. ”
Except that the 64-bit versions can, all this apply only to the 32-bit versions.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2009/11/18/vista-7-trojans-forecast/comment-page-1/#comment-75763 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:24:06 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=22092#comment-75763 It ought to be disappointing that Microsoft cannot handle RAM sufficiently well. It won’t make it in HPC any time soon.

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By: Yuhong Bao http://techrights.org/2009/11/18/vista-7-trojans-forecast/comment-page-1/#comment-75762 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:18:41 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=22092#comment-75762 “an antifeature which was probably inherited by Vista 7.”
This limit dates all the way back to when PAE support was introduced in Windows 2000, read the article for more details.
“so a followup is likely.”
Unfortunately not:
http://geoffchappell.com/viewer.htm?doc=new/index.htm

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By: Yuhong Bao http://techrights.org/2009/11/18/vista-7-trojans-forecast/comment-page-1/#comment-75733 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:00:31 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=22092#comment-75733 “as it turns out, based on one of our readers, a “Microsoft hardware licence” is now required in Vista”
That is not what this article by Geoff Chappell meant. What Geoff Chappell was talking about is artificial limits. BTW, Geoff Chappell is good at software reverse engineering and discovering undocumented APIs, dating back to MS-DOS (he wrote DOS Internals). Take a look at his work on the Windows Shell, for example:
http://www.geoffchappell.com/viewer.htm?doc=studies/windows/shell/index.htm
“There will probably be more coverage of this in days to come, so a followup is likely.”
It already made slashdot and reddit, and there are already software designed to automatically apply the patch described in this article to remove the artifical limits.

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