Comments on: How to Handle Microsoft’s Unhealthy Obsession with GNU/Linux http://techrights.org/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/ Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom Fri, 25 Nov 2016 09:41:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.14 By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/comment-page-8/#comment-3415 Thu, 22 Nov 2007 21:45:08 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/#comment-3415 He doesn’t talk to you and he doesn’t like you.

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By: eet http://techrights.org/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/comment-page-7/#comment-3413 Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:02:03 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/#comment-3413 Nooo; good old Beranger still talks to me because mine are the most intelligent replies he gets on his blog. Heck, the same goes for your blog, really…

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/comment-page-7/#comment-3409 Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:32:34 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/#comment-3409 Sebastian Weiss (eet) has apparently done some legwork in other sites (where his comments get deleted).

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By: TaQ http://techrights.org/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/comment-page-7/#comment-3407 Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:06:12 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/#comment-3407 Oh boy, I think now we reached an useless point on a endless loop.
If we don’t have anything more to say about this post, I don’t see why try to extend more this trying to find who’s the troll here.
Let’s move to the newer posts? :-)

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By: eet http://techrights.org/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/comment-page-7/#comment-3390 Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:00:27 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/#comment-3390 The troll got nothing to support it…

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By: TaQ http://techrights.org/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/comment-page-7/#comment-3386 Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:48:54 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/#comment-3386

I prodded the big, ugly troll with a stick and found it was made of cardboard.

Feels the same here on the other side. ;-)

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By: eet http://techrights.org/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/comment-page-6/#comment-3375 Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:35:48 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/#comment-3375 Yes, you could call it playing. I prodded the big, ugly troll with a stick and found it was made of cardboard.

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By: TaQ http://techrights.org/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/comment-page-6/#comment-3354 Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:33:50 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/#comment-3354

Poor thing, you live in a world without facts; it must be hard for you to get around just by guessing.

Ouch, I’m trying to guess how you turn on the corner without being sure that you’ll not hit somebody coming from the other side. Do you stuck and wait to somebody comes from the other side and ask them if you can turn? You live on a world of facts and not experimentation, you need some facts to do that! :-)

Sad, for you the age of enlightenment, da Vinci, Rousseau, Descartes, and yes, Machiavelli, was just a waste of time, eh?

A wise guy on the last century told us that “imagination is more important than knowledge”. A lot of his theories were just proved years later when we got the tools to do that. When he made them he just was using his imagination and intuition. Oh, his name was Albert Einstein.

No, it would be a success for your conspiracy-loving mind if you _had_ any evidence that someone could question; but the sad thing is you haven’t even produced that.

You can’t tell who wons a race till it ends, so we don’t have any results now. At least we’re taking our chances on some horses. :-)

nobody wants to play with you.

I don’t know if you noticed but with each comment you post here you’re playing more and more with us, and as I said before, seems that you’re enjoying that. We need to drink a beer some day, we are almost friends!. :-) Please follow my advice and make some searchs: you’ll see we’re not alone.

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By: eet http://techrights.org/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/comment-page-6/#comment-3350 Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:20:19 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/#comment-3350 [quote=TaQ]Wake up. Those kind of things are from the last century, today they aren’t so solid. [/quote]
Poor thing, you live in a world without facts; it must be hard for you to get around just by guessing. Sad, for you the age of enlightenment, da Vinci, Rousseau, Descartes, and yes, Machiavelli, was just a waste of time, eh?

You are back on your own in the middle-ages, guessing with metaphysics and trying with alchemy.

[quote]Even if we have some evidence like that today, if someone wants to believe it’s fake, the discussion will be pointless.[/quote]
No, it would be a success for your conspiracy-loving mind if you _had_ any evidence that someone could question; but the sad thing is you haven’t even produced that.

You and your likes are just a sect; a bunch of pseudo-religious weirdos of FOSS, and nobody wants to play with you.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/comment-page-6/#comment-3320 Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:08:04 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/#comment-3320 Writing, not responding to (the ad hominem way).

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By: eet http://techrights.org/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/comment-page-6/#comment-3316 Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:59:21 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/#comment-3316 d) that would be Roy, judging from the immense amount of sh** he’s writing…

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By: TaQ http://techrights.org/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/comment-page-5/#comment-3302 Wed, 21 Nov 2007 03:32:56 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/#comment-3302

So becoming more paranoid than before, when you had reason to be paranoid, is rational behavior? I would say such logic needs medication… ;)

Eet, no need to medication. Some time ago we were paranoid because we saw what was happening. Then came some “open source, mature, corporate” guys and told us “hey, it’s ok, we don’t need to stay this way” and we, oh boy, so naive, trusted them for some months and there we are, all this mess around us now. We need to restore our parainod level and try to fix some stuff before they break it more.

So Microsoft is beating you to death; is this the dream you wake up from every night, sweating and screaming?

Your imagination reveal us some aspects of your mind. ;-)

Seek help, but keep the Linux community out of it.

That’s a curious thing. I can’t remember some post here telling about the “Linux community” as a whole represented by this site. We can’t do that, because there’s a huge community out there and here we’re just a few writing what we think about all this microsoft stuff, BUT if you were not in a coma since the 80′s (if so, yes, that thing you saw is Michael Jackson) or search about this you’ll find more people that agree with us on this community than the kind of “hey, I love Linux but think microsoft is cool and is not a danger” guys.
I think we can’t speak for the whole community, and by “we” I mean you also. ;-)

If you haven’t got facts, at least admit that you are merely speculating what could be.

Seems that some people lives on a detective movie more than they think we live. The “facts” must be pictures, recordings, movies or something that can’t be denied, as on the Dick Tracy stories?

Wake up. Those kind of things are from the last century, today they aren’t so solid. Even if we have some evidence like that today, if someone wants to believe it’s fake, the discussion will be pointless. What you want as a fact, a paper signed by gates to ballmer years ago telling him “Exterminate free software on each possible way you can. Love, bill”? :-) Please seat down and wait, if they don’t make a HUGE mistake you’ll never see something like that.

Today corporations are more careful about their secrets, we don’t have time our resources to be detectives on the old way but we can see what the history tell us on past and we can see how the things are done on the present.

one paranoid feeding the other

I’d like to be called a paranoid for discuss and warn about these kind of things now than stupid to refuse to believe at least a little that there is something very wrong and give a chance to something very bad happen on the future. A lot to lose for so few to do now. So, let’s give us some years and see what happens. Please give us a way to contact you later. :-)

If you are not concerned with all that, not a problem, dude, go drink a beer and don’t waste your time with us, let’s see what happens. If you’re concerned with us at some level that you’ll try to stay calling us paranoid for the rest of time,
a) you’re a masochist
b) you work for Microsoft
c) you’re having a good time here or
d) you have a lot of free time and really like us on some sick way :-)

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By: SundayRefugee http://techrights.org/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/comment-page-5/#comment-3300 Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:03:54 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/#comment-3300 Well, I guess you’d care to comment on this, perhaps?

http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-13505_1-9793052-16.html

Paranoia, eh? Baseless, you say?

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By: eet http://techrights.org/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/comment-page-5/#comment-3290 Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:55:56 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/#comment-3290 Yeahhhs; one paranoid feeding the other… What a heart-warming view.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/comment-page-5/#comment-3283 Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:47:14 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/#comment-3283

MS is beating the Linux community to death.

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070611082734557

Clubbing baby Linux penguins

“See what I mean? No one accepts Microsoft’s story. And no one accepts that the Novell-Microsoft patent deal wasn’t a cross license either, I notice. People are not stupid.

So when Microsoft says it respects other people’s intellectual property, what everyone is thinking is, That’s not true. Microsoft doesn’t respect the GPL, and that’s other people’s property. Microsoft is just trying to kill off a competitor. Again.”

Novell enables this.

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By: eet http://techrights.org/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/comment-page-5/#comment-3281 Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:42:30 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/#comment-3281 God, you ARE paranoid! :eek:

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By: SundayRefugee http://techrights.org/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/comment-page-4/#comment-3280 Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:40:49 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/#comment-3280 As usual, eet, you speak in strawmen and red herrings.

No, I don’t wake up at night screaming.

No, I don’t imagine MS is beating me to death. It was an analogy. MS is beating the Linux community to death. Novell is a part of that community. Therefore, by extension, wether they even realize it or not, Novell is the club MS is swinging.

So, to be clear, and cut through the confusion of your continued strawmen: The Linux community is under continuous attack by Microsoft. To ignore this, and let them extinguish US (ALL of us, as a Linux community) is our downfall. To ignore the means they use is to hasten our downfall, and to play into Microsoft’s hands.

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By: eet http://techrights.org/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/comment-page-4/#comment-3276 Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:35:04 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/#comment-3276 It is always ‘just an example’, and you always say, you could get better examples if you wanted – but point is, you never do.

You always claim, some link would prove all that you’re saying, and if one reads what you’re linking to the contents actually don’t prove your point at all.

It’s all so tedious and trollish. If you haven’t got facts, at least admit that you are merely speculating what could be.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/comment-page-4/#comment-3269 Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:21:33 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/#comment-3269 That was just an example and you know it. You’re dancing around in circles.

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By: eet http://techrights.org/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/comment-page-4/#comment-3264 Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:15:59 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/19/obsession-linux/#comment-3264 Novell is Linux, and Linux is you? Blasphemy! 8)

Apart from Novell being alive and prospering one year later…

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