Comments on: Why Journalism is Junk http://techrights.org/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/ Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom Fri, 25 Nov 2016 09:41:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.14 By: jo Shields http://techrights.org/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/comment-page-9/#comment-41178 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:32:31 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/#comment-41178 So you’re calling “figure of speech” on the first third. Handy.

You still haven’t pointed out what’s different in the second point between, say, 1.9.1 (Intrepid) and 2.0.1 (Jaunty), or what “slips” is meant to mean given the well-publicized package transition.

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By: pcolon http://techrights.org/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/comment-page-8/#comment-41177 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:31:13 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/#comment-41177 OK, Thanks. I’ll let part of my family in Brasil & Guatemala know that. Foolish people, they should “give a crap about” something else.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/comment-page-8/#comment-41172 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:28:00 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/#comment-41172

Thanksgiving is an American celebration. “The World” doesn’t give a crap about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_of_speech

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By: jo Shields http://techrights.org/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/comment-page-8/#comment-41169 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:18:19 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/#comment-41169

What does place of origin/citizenry have to do with “The World”?

Thanksgiving is an American celebration. “The World” doesn’t give a crap about it.

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By: jo Shields http://techrights.org/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/comment-page-8/#comment-41168 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:17:25 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/#comment-41168

Thank goodness! That makes it OK.

I didn’t say that. I said nothing has changed this time, beyond a routine version bump.

Thank goodness! That makes it ’safe’.

I didn’t say that. I said nothing has changed this time, beyond a routine version bump.

Continued and enhanced perpetuation. So tell me, when does it become impractical to isolate Mono applications from GNOME? In the practical/pragmatic sense, not just the technical one…

When does it become impractical? Hmm… round about when some “core” thing, rather than simple apps, require it? Sounds about right.

Some of my family is. Most readers of this Web site are based on the US as well.

So “The World” means “Roy”

Very revealing ^_^

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/comment-page-8/#comment-41167 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:08:18 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/#comment-41167

Mono has had Winforms support for several years.

Thank goodness! That makes it OK.

Ubuntu has had Winforms packages for several years.

Thank goodness! That makes it ‘safe’.

What’s different other than a routine version number bump?

Continued and enhanced perpetuation. So tell me, when does it become impractical to isolate Mono applications from GNOME? In the practical/pragmatic sense, not just the technical one…

As for the thanksgiving thing, “the World”? Seriously? You’re not even American!

Some of my family is. Most readers of this Web site are based on the US as well.

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By: pcolon http://techrights.org/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/comment-page-7/#comment-41165 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:03:29 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/#comment-41165 What does place of origin/citizenry have to do with “The World”?

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By: jo Shields http://techrights.org/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/comment-page-7/#comment-41161 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:54:11 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/#comment-41161 Mono has had Winforms support for several years.

Ubuntu has had Winforms packages for several years.

What’s different other than a routine version number bump?

As for the thanksgiving thing, “the World”? Seriously? You’re not even American!

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/comment-page-7/#comment-41156 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:50:08 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/#comment-41156 “While the World is Asleep” = Thanksgiving. Mind the date and subheadline.

“Mono with Microsoft-patented WinForms” = Yup.

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/02/12/25/213255.shtml

Mono also implements parts of .NET that have NOT been submitted to ECMA and ISO standards. Those parts of Mono lack even the protection for IP infringement with re-implementation that ISO documentation licensing implies.

“Slips into Ubuntu 9.04″ = Mono 2.0 does slip into Ubuntu, but it can still be rejected at this early stage (first alpha),

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By: jo Shields http://techrights.org/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/comment-page-7/#comment-41152 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:44:49 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/#comment-41152 RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT.

While the World is Asleep, Mono with Microsoft-patented WinForms Slips into Ubuntu 9.04

Explain the meaning of: “While the World is Asleep”, “Mono with Microsoft-patented WinForms” and “Slips into Ubuntu 9.04″

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/comment-page-7/#comment-41145 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:39:23 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/#comment-41145 I didn’t say this was “slipping in secretly.” I wrote “THERE IS still a chance to stop it.”

You’re making up claims I did not make.

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By: jo Shields http://techrights.org/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/comment-page-6/#comment-41139 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:35:35 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/#comment-41139 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/28/microsoft-winforms-ubuntu/

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/comment-page-6/#comment-41123 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:24:19 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/#comment-41123 I can’t remember (nor find) any incident where I said this. Can you help, please?

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By: jo Shields http://techrights.org/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/comment-page-6/#comment-41118 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:21:34 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/#comment-41118 So… saying “this is slipping in secretly” when 1) it’s been in for 3 years and 2) has been announced multiple times to all relevant mailing lists……. is perspective?

Quite -_-

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/comment-page-6/#comment-41085 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:02:37 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/#comment-41085 No, the facts in that posts were all defensible. Yours were a matter of perspective and that’s the nature of an opinion.

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By: jo Shields http://techrights.org/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/comment-page-6/#comment-41070 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:51:12 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/#comment-41070

They are lies in the minds of those to whom it’s an inconvenient truth.

You are *CONSTANTLY* called out on deliberate lies, Roy. You just choose to never respond to them. Because they are an inconvenient REALITY.

Take the Ubuntu 9.04 comments as pretty concrete proof. You declined twice to respond to the fact that you were lying, with specific citations and proof of why you were lying.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/comment-page-5/#comment-40977 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:26:00 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/#comment-40977 They are lies in the minds of those to whom it’s an inconvenient truth.

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By: jo Shields http://techrights.org/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/comment-page-5/#comment-40975 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:20:50 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/#comment-40975

Why feed the troll? I think you’re just wasting your time. Kids like that have nothing better to do and get enjoyment out of getting people worked up. They have their fun, but eventually grow out of it or just end up leading sad and pathetic lives if they cannot. The shallowness and immaturity of the comments speak for themselves and don’t really need refuting.

But people really DO believe his lies. For some reason.

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By: Michael http://techrights.org/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/comment-page-5/#comment-40851 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 02:17:48 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/#comment-40851 Why feed the troll? I think you’re just wasting your time. Kids like that have nothing better to do and get enjoyment out of getting people worked up. They have their fun, but eventually grow out of it or just end up leading sad and pathetic lives if they cannot. The shallowness and immaturity of the comments speak for themselves and don’t really need refuting.

Goblin – nice to see another m68K ‘fan’ about. I used to love Devpac, but unfortunately I lost enthusiasm to write any 68K code many years ago – faulty hardware, disappearing company, cheap pc’s + gnu/linux and alternative things to do with my time. Definitely fond memories though. I too somehow ended up writing .net – although I hate it, the money is good and the job is easy and very flexible. It also gives me the experience to say without qualification that it is really crappy technology that GNU/Linux would do better without, and that the resources would be better spent almost anywhere else.

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By: jo Shields http://techrights.org/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/comment-page-5/#comment-40662 Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:22:12 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/29/journalism-is-junk/#comment-40662 You’re welcome to your opinion. Lying on the other hand is just sad.

I don’t disagree with some of the core points you claim to support. I disagree with your attempt to convince others of those positions based on a foundation of deceit and lies. It’s harmful to Free Software.

Boycottnovell is fiction, not fact.

It’s extremely difficult to take serious topics seriously, when basic topics are lied about. The proverbial “boy who cried wolf”. Foundation in fact is KEY to trustworthiness.

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