Comments on: OOXML is the ‘Standard’ of a Single Company, for One Company http://techrights.org/2008/01/05/open-xml-egocentricity/ Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom Fri, 25 Nov 2016 09:41:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.14 By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/01/05/open-xml-egocentricity/comment-page-2/#comment-4742 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 13:48:53 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/01/05/open-xml-egocentricity/#comment-4742 The format is ‘dynamic’ too (a moving target). Microsoft won’t comply with its own broken specifications regardless of the outcome in ISO.

Don’t be deceived by the “M$” in eet’s comments. I’ve seen his comments elsewhere. He’s not against Microsoft, but he wants you to think that.

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By: hey http://techrights.org/2008/01/05/open-xml-egocentricity/comment-page-2/#comment-4739 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 13:33:45 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/01/05/open-xml-egocentricity/#comment-4739

For DOCX we have specifications, for DOC we have no specifications.

So, you are now unmasking yourself as the MS troll you are. Defending optionally-open xml, that’s just great…

You shall try implementing a format that requires you to read 6000 pages just to implement it and that even after the 6000 pages there are still things you don’t know about the format.

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By: Stephane Rodriguez http://techrights.org/2008/01/05/open-xml-egocentricity/comment-page-2/#comment-4711 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 10:52:20 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/01/05/open-xml-egocentricity/#comment-4711 “For DOCX we have specifications, for DOC we have no specifications.”

No. We have as much DOC specification than DOCX. That does not mean 100%, that means same level for both formats.

The DOC spec was made available in MSDN for a long time, until 1998 actually.

Microsoft makes the DOC spec available for free (officeff@microsoft.com).

The problem is that the spec is more a description than specs as we know it. A consequence is that not everything is specified, and Microsoft retains the exclusivity in reliably reading, writing, rendering, calculating and migrating those files.

The hold up is that Microsoft is going to get the ISO timestamp even though they are not opening more DOCX than what they’ve done with DOC. And by retaining the exclusivity to implement this stuff reliably, it’s at odds with what a standard is for.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/01/05/open-xml-egocentricity/comment-page-1/#comment-4703 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 01:28:14 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/01/05/open-xml-egocentricity/#comment-4703 You’re missing the point that there’s an escape route from the binaries (OOo for starters). The specifications are not complete and Microsoft will ignore them anyway.

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By: 5tvr53 http://techrights.org/2008/01/05/open-xml-egocentricity/comment-page-1/#comment-4697 Sat, 05 Jan 2008 21:31:16 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/01/05/open-xml-egocentricity/#comment-4697 “So how much better is DOCX over DOC?”

For DOCX we have specifications, for DOC we have no specifications.
How much higher do you rate comprehensive specs over no specs at all?

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By: Yuhong Bao http://techrights.org/2008/01/05/open-xml-egocentricity/comment-page-1/#comment-4693 Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:58:48 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/01/05/open-xml-egocentricity/#comment-4693 So how much better is DOCX over DOC?

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By: Yuhong Bao http://techrights.org/2008/01/05/open-xml-egocentricity/comment-page-1/#comment-4691 Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:42:56 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/01/05/open-xml-egocentricity/#comment-4691 “all documents of these users are then only accessible using Microsoft Word (anything else would be lossy)”

That is true of the DOC format as well and DOCX have to be compatible with DOC. I mean, almost no other word processor supports VBA or IRM.

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By: 5fc435 http://techrights.org/2008/01/05/open-xml-egocentricity/comment-page-1/#comment-4683 Sat, 05 Jan 2008 13:33:40 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/01/05/open-xml-egocentricity/#comment-4683 The above article has been written by a known, flaming, community-splitting TROLL with strong paranoid tendencies, known as Roy ‘Fudmeister’ Schestowitz. Please ignore all content above.

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