Comments on: Massachusetts — Bullied, Battered, and Defeated http://techrights.org/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/ Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom Fri, 25 Nov 2016 09:41:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.14 By: Dead link http://techrights.org/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/comment-page-4/#comment-26578 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:14:09 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/#comment-26578 http://enterprise.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/04/16/2019244&from=rss

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/comment-page-4/#comment-1569 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:21:23 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/#comment-1569

And your hage doesn’t validate.

I always ensure validity of every single post (with the exception of YouTube embedments, which are tricky with XHTML). In this case, WordPress handling of titles with the quote symbol leads to errors that would be tough to fix, unless we avoid certain symbols. Thanks for letting me know this. I noticed this behaviour a couple of months ago. I already spend hours per month just ensuring the errors go away. :-(

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/comment-page-3/#comment-1568 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:16:35 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/#comment-1568 I would phrase it this way:

BoycottNovell turned its attention away from a plot that involves Novell serving Microsoft’s agenda into a series of deals and embrace-to-destroy strategies whose aim is to ultimately bury Free software as we know it. It also buries international standards and replaces them with a stack of ‘standards’ which Microsoft controls. It’s the stack of tomorrow’s lock-ins, which were already secretly entrenched and embedded in Windows Vista. Large companies said that Windows Vista should be made illegal in Europe for that reson.

Novell opened the door very wide for Trojan horses. The floodgates of invasion maybe. Picture yourself Novell and Microsoft standing there should to shoulder in OSBC and talking about how they are friends. Meanwhile, Novell supports Microsoft, Microsoft takes a jab at Linux, “Open Source” folks see how ‘charming’ Microsoft is and allow it to raise tensions and polarise further. Novell is the seed of plenty of this.

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By: Felipe Alvarez http://techrights.org/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/comment-page-3/#comment-1567 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:10:21 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/#comment-1567 And your hage doesn’t validate.

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By: Felipe Alvarez http://techrights.org/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/comment-page-3/#comment-1566 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:08:52 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/#comment-1566 Interesting comments about the domain name. I do think, however, that this site has veered a little too far about Novell, unless every topic (or every other topic) discusses its relevance with Novell. It has turned out more to be anti-MS than anti-Novell.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/comment-page-3/#comment-1565 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:06:24 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/#comment-1565 OOXML and IE are excellent pair to be used as analogy. Both were built (over time) to maintain a lock-in. There was even an admission recently (right from the horse’s mouth).

Is Microsoft learning from Web standards mistakes?

,—-[ Quote ]
| In a video interview with ZDNet Australia last month, Microsoft blogger and
| group manager of technical community, Frank Arrigo, explained how important
| it is for the Redmond giant to follow Web standards.
|
| “Standards are important,” said Arrigo, who admitted that Microsoft had been
| guilty of ignoring them in the past. “If you look at IE6, we didn’t quite
| follow all the standards but standards are important … IE7 as an example is
| trying to address that.”
`—-

There’s this one too [PDF].

,—-[ Quote ]
| From: Bill Gates
| Sent: Saturday, December 05, 1998 9:44 AM
| To: Bob Muglia (Exchange); Jon DeVaan; Steven Sinofsky
| Cc: Paul Mariz
| Subject: Office rendering
|
| One thing we have got to change is our strategy — allowing Office
| documents to be rendered very well by OTHER PEOPLES BROWSERS is one of the
| most destructive things we could do to the company.
|
| We have to stop putting any effort into this and make sure that Office
| documents very well depends on PROPRIETARY IE capabilities.
|
| Anything else is suicide for our platform. This is a case where Office has
| to to destroy Windows.
`—-

I have heaps of references on this issue as well. IE and ‘standards’ are a separate crime that is worth a whole Web site. :-)

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By: Zaine Ridling http://techrights.org/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/comment-page-3/#comment-1564 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:41:15 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/#comment-1564 Yesterday was really sad for me. Like a few hardcore others, I’ve been working like a dog since Spring 2006 to spread the benefits that ODF adoption will bring. No, the war isn’t lost, but by allowing MS-OOXML in the door, we get to stick with the status quo, which costs every taxpayer money every single year in increased IT costs to “manage” MS-OOXML-based data.

The best analogy against adopting MS-OOXML I tell others is, “Imagine if you were forced to use IE6 to browse the web? Every site, every hole, every critical vulnerability exposed to your system, and others were forced to write to Microsoft’s “standard” SNAFU coding reduced to IE6.” The cost of undoing such a mistake in the future will be exponentially expensive. “Microchusetts” won’t be able to unshit the bed, so to speak.

See: http://www.thegsblog.com/?p=187

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By: Sam Hiser http://techrights.org/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/comment-page-2/#comment-1563 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:36:43 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/#comment-1563 Remembered, Roy, by every single other CIO in the nation who will never now stick their neck out.

It is beyond travesty.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/comment-page-2/#comment-1562 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:14:34 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/#comment-1562 Yes, I know. Shane chose the domain name. We also have boycottlinspire.com, boycottxandros.com and boycottredhat.com is apparently reserved, just in case. We’ve had this discussion several times before, but moving from one domain to another is tricky (search engines, bookmarks, feeds, inbound links, etc).

Pamela was wise enough to register groklaw.com and groklaw.net, which can be generalised to include merely anything now that SCO is irrelevant.

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By: GNU/Linux http://techrights.org/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/comment-page-2/#comment-1561 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:56:43 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/#comment-1561 Roy, if you are planning to change domain I suggest you to choose neutral name. Nothing like boycottMS, boycottOOXML, boycottXYZ or ProtectTheWorldFromEvilMicrosoftDomination ;) Something that could be for general purposes, because you never know what could happen in the future. Every kind of anti_something_ site will not be treated as a serious source.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/comment-page-2/#comment-1560 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 13:48:04 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/#comment-1560 Stephen, we’ve lost some focus, but OOXML is part of a bigger picture. Hours ago I read that HD might actually be merged (in a sense) with the JPEG lifecycle, which means Windows-specific ‘extensions’ like MS-DRM are not far away from the maintream.

Sam Hiser shrewdly told me that the deal with Novell is — in his own eyes — primarily about defeating OOXML. Then came Moonlight (Silverlight) and other stuff from Novell. Surely, this site loses its focus if we look at Novell in isolation. Need we change this? It is hard to ignore how things get pulled towards the GPL, the OSI, and patent FUD.

A suitable domain name might now be microsoft-grand-plan-2006.com even though this whole thing was initially planned years ago, based on what I can gather (patents filed, Port25 founded and so forth). It has evolved over time, for sure.

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By: Stephen http://techrights.org/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/comment-page-2/#comment-1559 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 13:13:20 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/#comment-1559 This should be on a site called boycottooxml.com!!!

With all the focus on Novells agreement with Microsoft, I hope we’re also going to seem some equal balance in other similar activities such as Suns efforts with OOXML support, see http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2163405,00.asp

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/comment-page-1/#comment-1557 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 10:53:58 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/#comment-1557 Yes, I am aware of the problem associated with the domain and site name. The tag line should hopefully put things in perspective.

Exploring the reality behind exclusionary deals with Microsoft and their subtle (yet severe) implications

This tag line has changed over time to better align with a scenario that evolved ever since Microsoft had invaded Linux through Novell. The ‘second wave’ was the May 14th attack.

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By: GNU/Linux http://techrights.org/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/comment-page-1/#comment-1556 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 10:43:32 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/#comment-1556 We need to (as a community) fight against this FUD (I’m trying it all the time, posting clarifications on different sites, gosh, people really know nothing about Free and Open Source Software). I often want to link to your site too but…Unfortunately this site’s name isn’t encouraging and people may think that you are a part of antiMS coalition or something like that. Sorry for harsh worlds because you inforations are useful but this is how I think about it ;)

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/comment-page-1/#comment-1555 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 10:28:40 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/#comment-1555 Haha. Now that I watch the articles again I can also see the comments, including:

Anonymous Wed, 2007-08-01 15:14

What a bunch of Crap.
MisterMeister Wed, 2007-08-01 16:26

When the author quotes Laura DiDio(t) as a reliable source I can faintly hear Ricardo Montalban in the background saying “Welcome to Fantasy Island”.

DiDio(t) has no credibility whatsoever as an “analyst”. The debacle with SCO stripped any remaining fragments:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_DiDio#SCO_affair

She needs to go back to the paranormal voodoo occult pagan witchcraft reporting she did in a previous life:
Anonymous Wed, 2007-08-01 18:17

The article is pretty poor cause based on too many irrelevant facts and ideas.

Hope no-one take the author as a good source of information, because if so fellows you are betting on the wrong horse for sure.

CIO loosing credibility with such articles.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/comment-page-1/#comment-1554 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 10:26:06 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/#comment-1554 Yes, I have seen this and stopped reading after number (1), which talks about the so-called ‘patent risk’. CIO.com have also just published an article with 7 financial reasons to choose GNU/Linux.

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By: GNU/Linux http://techrights.org/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/comment-page-1/#comment-1552 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 10:00:04 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/08/02/massachusetts-ooxml/#comment-1552 Btw. Here is another anti GNU/Linux FUD. And guess what, it is based on Laura Didio’s words! :D
http://www.cio.com/article/126916/Eight_Reasons_NOT_to_Use_Linux_in_the_Enterprise/1

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