Comments on: Rights Versus Freedoms http://techrights.org/2011/06/27/corporation-rights/ Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom Fri, 25 Nov 2016 09:41:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.14 By: twitter http://techrights.org/2011/06/27/corporation-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-121662 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 07:18:08 +0000 http://techrights.org/?p=50317#comment-121662 Microsoft treats employees as badly as they treat shareholders and investors. The culture is consistently described as demanding, demeaning and unbearable by all but the most self depreciating and misguided. There are a myriad of divisive rankings reflected in badges, immigration status and ultimately lower wages than a free market would bear. Even before the company decided to become the US’s largest exploiter of zero rights H1B workers, Bill Gates would personally drill dedicated employees with “killer questions” and statements like, “That’s the dumbest fucking thing I’ve ever heard.” There are stories about how the principle investors tried to rob each other when one was sick. Bill Gates and Microsoft’s poisonous attitude had polluted a large swath of US corporate and government policy. Why would anyone want to go to the source?

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By: Dr. Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2011/06/27/corporation-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-121529 Tue, 28 Jun 2011 07:22:31 +0000 http://techrights.org/?p=50317#comment-121529 I don’t think these are “poorly treated employees”; rather, they are poorly-treating employees.

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By: Dr. Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2011/06/27/corporation-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-121528 Tue, 28 Jun 2011 07:21:03 +0000 http://techrights.org/?p=50317#comment-121528 A lot of people do not know how to resist, even if they wish to. I’ve prepared some videos about that.

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By: Dr. Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2011/06/27/corporation-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-121527 Tue, 28 Jun 2011 07:20:10 +0000 http://techrights.org/?p=50317#comment-121527 Maybe we can spin the term IPR to mean Ineffectual patents restrictions or something along those lines.

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By: Dr. Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2011/06/27/corporation-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-121526 Tue, 28 Jun 2011 07:19:03 +0000 http://techrights.org/?p=50317#comment-121526 Right.

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By: twitter http://techrights.org/2011/06/27/corporation-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-121500 Tue, 28 Jun 2011 01:36:29 +0000 http://techrights.org/?p=50317#comment-121500 Rights and freedoms are two interesting ways of looking at things. Both can be looked at as positive assertions when applied to software freedom and both can be phrased as negative arguments. Sofware freedom is a natural right that harms no one, so it is an essential freedom that we should not allow others to violate. Society should protect its members against injustices like non free software. Why should anyone let another person or company have that kind of power over them? Because it makes the non free software people money? That’s as preposterous as allowing muggers to run free. The only thing worse than tolerating that kind of injustice is a state that actively protects and promotes the injustice.

The easy way to undo the injustice of non free software is to undo state protection for it and that protection has always been on shaky ground. One of the cases that established copyright protection for binary files was Lotus vrs someone who claimed to be a Soviet agent cracking and distributing non free software with explicit goal of ruining the business. As copyright is supposed to protect human expressions, it can be argued that only the source code should enjoy copyright protection. The binaries are limited and can’t be understood, much less trusted, and will never enter the public domain. Enlarging the public domain is the reason copyright exists. The establishment of patent protection for software is even more absurd and thankfully it is being dismantled. In the mean time, all of us lose our natural right to copy and share files as well as to make our computers do what we want them to. This is to great a price to pay simply to make Bill Gates the richest man in the world and employ a few hundred thousand poorly treated employees. The exercise is unjust from concept to result. Governments should stop purchasing, using and protecting non free software. Only human expressions that can be shared deserve the protections copyright has to offer.

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By: twitter http://techrights.org/2011/06/27/corporation-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-121498 Tue, 28 Jun 2011 01:12:30 +0000 http://techrights.org/?p=50317#comment-121498 You can call it a tax if the private company derives much of it’s force from government support. Imagine where Microsoft, for example, would be without draconian copyright and patent laws.

You should not be so defeatist about changing laws to liberate people. The power companies have over you is reason to resist, not to give up.

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By: NotZed http://techrights.org/2011/06/27/corporation-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-121485 Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:30:16 +0000 http://techrights.org/?p=50317#comment-121485 If you’re going to be a stickler for language, how about calling it a rent rather than a tax?

Taxes are necessary to lubricate an efficient society – without them you are left with an inefficient and barely functioning one. Just look at any developing country you care to think of, or to be blunt – the USA. They might be wasted and misspent but things are completely rooted without them. For one extant example, Greece is mostly in its current mess because taxes weren’t collected properly on those wealthy enough to get away with it.

The pernicious private rent extraction you and many others always call a ‘tax’ is merely a form of wealth distribution – from the many to the few. It has no benefit to society whatsoever, nor can it ever by definition.

And unfortunately the courts would disagree with your final statement. Corporations clearly have rights that exceed those of citizens. About the only ‘right’ a citizen of a western country has is to refuse to purchase a given companies products, but even that has been diluted – in some cases you can’t even be a functioning member of society without paying some foreign or local self-proclaimed supra-citizen their tribute (e.g. to access the media required to be an informed citizen). And in any event is a very weak right when the media is playing for `the other side’, and against the ever-increasing concentration of ownership. How can you boycott a company that owns everything or gets a cut of everything, and you don’t even know it?

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By: rpgray http://techrights.org/2011/06/27/corporation-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-121468 Mon, 27 Jun 2011 16:34:31 +0000 http://techrights.org/?p=50317#comment-121468 The confusion comes from two different sources. There is a difference between negative rights (the right to not be aggressed against) and positive rights (alleged obligations on the part of one person towards another). Those who believe that an idea can be property view the copying of ideas as “aggression”. The second point of confusion is the belief that an idea can be property.

I would also like to address another issue you raise. The term “free market” itself has become hijacked. It has become hijacked by people who equate it with everything from neo-colonialism to bank bailouts to – , yes, support for intellectual property. None of these are present in a true free market system. In a true free market the government simply gets out of the way of any voluntary interaction between or among individuals. A growing number of free market thinkers are rejecting the idea of intellectual property – including software patents.

Sincerely,

rpgray

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By: Needs Sunlight http://techrights.org/2011/06/27/corporation-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-121459 Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:58:29 +0000 http://techrights.org/?p=50317#comment-121459 Might makes right…

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