Comments on: Mozilla is Fighting for Us http://techrights.org/2010/01/27/mozilla-for-theora/ Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom Fri, 25 Nov 2016 09:41:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.14 By: Yuhong Bao http://techrights.org/2010/01/27/mozilla-for-theora/comment-page-1/#comment-79567 Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:17:02 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=25972#comment-79567 I know, it is the reward for “maximizing shareholder value”. I have this resubmission on the problems of this, it has a lot of links for more info:
http://slashdot.org/submission/1159318/The-problems-of-the-shareholder-value-ideology

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By: your_friend http://techrights.org/2010/01/27/mozilla-for-theora/comment-page-1/#comment-79563 Fri, 29 Jan 2010 05:45:19 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=25972#comment-79563 Layoffs and bonuses go hand in hand. Money “saved” by firing people is often put into the pocket of the person who made the decision.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2010/01/27/mozilla-for-theora/comment-page-1/#comment-79508 Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:19:19 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=25972#comment-79508 Everything is relative. I still get a better deal with KDE (Konqueror) and Firefox.

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By: Yuhong Bao http://techrights.org/2010/01/27/mozilla-for-theora/comment-page-1/#comment-79507 Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:09:58 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=25972#comment-79507 Yes, but my point is the original one was worse.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2010/01/27/mozilla-for-theora/comment-page-1/#comment-79505 Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:06:52 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=25972#comment-79505 Yes, but the assessment we have is of the latest revision.

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By: Yuhong Bao http://techrights.org/2010/01/27/mozilla-for-theora/comment-page-1/#comment-79504 Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:04:58 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=25972#comment-79504 And well, the current Chrome EULA was not as bad as the original:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2008/09/google-on-chrome-eula-controversy-our-bad-well-change-it.ars
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Howlett/?p=477
http://gizmodo.com/5044871/google-chrome-eula-claims-ownership-of-everything-you-create-on-chrome-from-blog-posts-to-emails

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2010/01/27/mozilla-for-theora/comment-page-1/#comment-79502 Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:00:28 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=25972#comment-79502 It was not as bad.

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By: Yuhong Bao http://techrights.org/2010/01/27/mozilla-for-theora/comment-page-1/#comment-79499 Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:20:42 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=25972#comment-79499 “just not Chrome with the ugly EULA”
Actually, Firefox once made this mistake too.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2010/01/27/mozilla-for-theora/comment-page-1/#comment-79497 Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:30:33 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=25972#comment-79497 Ron Hovsepian received $6 million in bonuses for just one year, despite poor performance (and layoffs).

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By: your_friend http://techrights.org/2010/01/27/mozilla-for-theora/comment-page-1/#comment-79496 Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:24:29 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=25972#comment-79496 They did have a choice. They could have paid and created a non free branch of Firefox. You can be sure that Microsoft and Apple would have been happy to cough up five million dollars to gain that kind of control over Firefox and to create an advantage for their platforms over GNU/Linux. Had they taken the bait, they would have created a huge advantage to using Windows a platform with a court proved history of sabotage against them. Instead, Mozilla stuck to their free software principles in a brave way. They risk their users not being able to watch YouTube and other video. I predict Google and others will move to Ogg rather than lose half of Europe. This is the kind of choice all free software users face, hang together today or be hung alone later. You can argue that what Mozilla did is in the long term best interests of Mozilla, but you should realize that Microsoft is always there to bribe individuals with deals that are hard to pass up. The executives of SCO and Novell will retire rich for their betrayals if they don’t end up in jail where they belong.

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By: uberVU - social comments http://techrights.org/2010/01/27/mozilla-for-theora/comment-page-1/#comment-79455 Thu, 28 Jan 2010 04:27:11 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=25972#comment-79455 Social comments and analytics for this post…

This post was mentioned on Twitter by schestowitz: The Free Software Foundation Europe (#FSFE ) goes to #WIPO and #Mozilla advocates #Ogg http://ur1.ca/ks7r

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2010/01/27/mozilla-for-theora/comment-page-1/#comment-79440 Thu, 28 Jan 2010 02:18:50 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=25972#comment-79440 Apple, Microsoft and IBM are in charge now. All are proponents of software patents.

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By: NotZed http://techrights.org/2010/01/27/mozilla-for-theora/comment-page-1/#comment-79439 Thu, 28 Jan 2010 01:34:27 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=25972#comment-79439 “In summary, Mozilla will not let us work for the “MPEG cartel”. It deserves credit for this.”

Sure it deserves some credit – but on the other hand, they simply have no choice. They cannot continue to publish a free browser that also uses patented software. I’d really be interested to know in which actual countries these ‘patents’ have any bite too – is it just the USA?

The real shame is that HTML5 leaves out ANY codec specification. That the W3C let themselves be shafted by corporate bullies is a bad sign.

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