Comments on: Microsoft’s Quiet War Against GNU/Linux on Motherboards http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/ Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom Tue, 03 Jan 2017 02:48:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.14 By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/comment-page-5/#comment-10044 Sat, 17 May 2008 23:36:33 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/#comment-10044 From what I could gather in my readings yesterday, Novell wouldn’t hesitate to adopt WPF for the GNOME desktop. Let’s wait and see. All I know is that Microsoft calls many shots at Novell these days.

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By: Victor Soliz http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/comment-page-5/#comment-10042 Sat, 17 May 2008 23:26:49 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/#comment-10042 man, that’s messed up , I intended to say, “mythical everywhere but in few countries”

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By: Victor Soliz http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/comment-page-4/#comment-10041 Sat, 17 May 2008 23:25:51 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/#comment-10041

It seems a little bit churlish to blame Microsoft for that, unless anyone has evidence that they’re holding the process up?

It is their fault anyway, isn’t it? We wouldn’t be having this ghost standard if they didn’t push it…

implying the Mono specifically infringes MS patents

Well, of course mono infringes MS patents, whether intentionally or not. It is meant as a project to replicate MS’ code instead of innovate, nevertheless MS probably has made its patent ambiguous enough so that any implementation of .net infringes patents.

But let’s stop talking about software patents here, they are after all mythical everywhere, and if MS began trying toget Linux users to pay them, I would still use Linux and not pay them.

The real problem, and that’s were your link is soo right is the whole “follow the leather” philosophy that has plagued Novell and is clear in Miguel Icaza’s blog. For some reason they are pushing so hard for Linux to become an imitator of MS technologies, instead of making actual innovation, whether intentionally or not, this will render Linux a second class citizen.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/comment-page-4/#comment-10023 Sat, 17 May 2008 20:38:56 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/#comment-10023 Thanks for that. I’ve also just found:

“See? You can have most of .Net … but you can’t write a GUI because Windows Forms is held back. If you try to port Windows forms to another platform, so that a program originally written in .Net using Windows forms can be easily ported to that other platform … Microsoft would certainly sue.

Absolutely classic Microsoft behaviour, that.

For Silverlight … the piece of that that Microsoft have held back for themselves exclusively is the content creation part.

You can only create Silverlight content on a Windows platform. “

http://www.osnews.com/comments/19745

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By: T Patterson http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/comment-page-4/#comment-10022 Sat, 17 May 2008 20:29:41 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/#comment-10022 Today on ZDNet there is a comment to Dana Blankenhorn story posted by Brian Goldfarb of Microsoft directly implying the Mono specifically infringes MS patents. He posts under the alias bgoldy.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=2445

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By: LinuxIsFun http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/comment-page-4/#comment-10010 Sat, 17 May 2008 11:54:18 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/#comment-10010 And novell is helping MS fight GNU ???

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By: nerdd.net | news and opinion http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/comment-page-4/#comment-10004 Sat, 17 May 2008 11:02:30 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/#comment-10004 Microsofts Quiet War Against GNU/Linux on Motherboards | nerdd.net…

\r\nTo sum up, here we have another case study exemplifying total disregard, market abuse, distortio…

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By: zack http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/comment-page-3/#comment-9983 Sat, 17 May 2008 01:39:23 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/#comment-9983 it looks like microsoft is going to win the race…

http://www.finedigg.com/computer/

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By: rob enderle http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/comment-page-3/#comment-9979 Sat, 17 May 2008 01:06:50 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/#comment-9979 I just found about this right now.
Asus will be shipping millions of these motherboards every month?
Yeah, Id say Microsoft has to worry. A browser and IM client like Skype is what people use the majority of the time, so I can see this really taking the web based OS in a direction Microsoft doesnt want it to go.

This would have been ideal for my mom but she’s running an EEE with Linux Mint now.

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By: Penguin Pete http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/comment-page-3/#comment-9971 Fri, 16 May 2008 23:12:55 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/#comment-9971 Just wanted to drop by and say “thanks for keeping us informed.” I learn about all kinds of behind-the-scenes activity on this site, which I am glad to see is branching out to “the big picture” beyond merely focusing on one distro (inexcusable as their partnership with MS might be).

Keep up the good work, and never mind the asstroturfers! Many of us are counting on you!

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By: Jose_X http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/comment-page-3/#comment-9964 Fri, 16 May 2008 21:08:12 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/#comment-9964 >> It seems a little bit churlish to blame Microsoft for that, unless anyone has evidence that they’re holding the process up?

UhOhXML is dog poo. He said ..She said.. The standard is full of problems. There will be no interoperability. Monopolysoft poo-poo’d all over the place, and people will never regard it as anything but another gross example of Monopolysoft lack of ethics (I know, “ethics” is a word that doesn’t exist in some people’s mind when it comes to $$$). Well, actually, it won’t be like just any other such example. Monopolysoft went too far this time.

What’s this I hear? Another drop falling into the Monopolysoft expense bucket? Why yes, yes it is. http://www.digistan.org/hague-declaration Just a few more days left to sign up.

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By: nix http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/comment-page-3/#comment-9963 Fri, 16 May 2008 20:53:18 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/#comment-9963 to the fuck off guy you sound like a microslop loser to me YOU FUCK OFF !!!!!!! JUST SAY NO TO MICROSLOP !!!!!!!!!

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By: Don http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/comment-page-2/#comment-9962 Fri, 16 May 2008 20:48:10 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/#comment-9962 @whatever:

You seem to be unable to read or understand English. Try carefully reading this story again. There are people here who can help you to understand some of the big words, and also help you to learn how to expand your vocabulary to include more than four-letter words. If you are in fact a kindergarten student, please disregard this comment and enjoy your nap-time this afternoon. Have fun playing your Windows games!

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By: Maarten http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/comment-page-2/#comment-9960 Fri, 16 May 2008 20:35:05 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/#comment-9960 Don’t bother Microsoft. More and more evidence is coming in that Linux cannot be stopped and is breaking through on many different devices…..

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By: Alex G http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/comment-page-2/#comment-9942 Fri, 16 May 2008 17:03:30 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/#comment-9942 Poor Microsoft. They should have known Phoenix will come up with this BIOS, when they were writing the EULA. Shame on them for not owning the crystal ball. And shame on them for yeilding to Phoenix pressure. If they didn’t, it would have made much better blog article.

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By: AlexH http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/comment-page-2/#comment-9930 Fri, 16 May 2008 13:33:18 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/#comment-9930 @Victor: obviously, it’s up to _someone_ – my point is, it’s not up to Microsoft.

The output of the BRM is instructions to the editor on how to change the text. The editor puts the final text today, and JTC1 is supposed to distribute it.

It seems a little bit churlish to blame Microsoft for that, unless anyone has evidence that they’re holding the process up?

It’s not really in their interest to hold it up whichever side you butter your toast.

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By: Nikolas Koswinkle http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/comment-page-2/#comment-9927 Fri, 16 May 2008 13:09:44 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/#comment-9927 Slander-mouth.

Note: comment has been flagged for arriving from a possible incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, abusive Internet troll that posts from open proxies and relays around the world.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/comment-page-1/#comment-9925 Fri, 16 May 2008 12:45:13 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/#comment-9925

It should be up to someone.

Microsoft proxies or parties that it hires (ECMA has Microsoft as a customer for example).

Microsoft has spent a lot of money trying to buy this standard. Can it not afford to bribe a little more to make the process quicker? Oh, well… I guess hurrying up _at this stage_ isn’t actually serving its needs. Now it can just urinate on all the formalities.

And that’s just why everyone loves Microsoft. :-)

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By: Victor Soliz http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/comment-page-1/#comment-9922 Fri, 16 May 2008 12:33:52 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/#comment-9922 It should be up to someone.

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By: Alex H. http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/comment-page-1/#comment-9920 Fri, 16 May 2008 12:16:24 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/15/eula-hyper-on-motherboards/#comment-9920 Just out of interest, why is it supposedly up to Microsoft to publish the final OOXML text?

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