Comments on: Responses to GNOME Foundation’s OOXML Statement http://techrights.org/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/ Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom Fri, 25 Nov 2016 09:41:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.14 By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/comment-page-4/#comment-4626 Fri, 04 Jan 2008 06:39:13 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/#comment-4626 Rodney, You’re talking to the man who called de Icaza “an embarrassment” and called me all sorts of things as well.

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By: Rodney Dawes http://techrights.org/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/comment-page-4/#comment-4614 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:52:01 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/#comment-4614 Jeff. Please. You aren’t GNOME. You’re just one of the “people” in it. Plenty of people appreciate my commentary. While you aren’t one of them, please do not go slandering like you are speaking for the entire community. There are just as many people who don’t appreciate your input, output, or anything else about you either.

But whatever. You know the truth. Those who see short, fall far. But have fun trying to mock me some more. I’m sure your insults will be very professional and appear in other blog comments across the internet as well.

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By: @w'e"eät http://techrights.org/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/comment-page-4/#comment-3626 Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:54:17 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/#comment-3626 Really a repulsive little slimeball, isn’t he?

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/comment-page-4/#comment-3625 Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:39:26 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/#comment-3625 From Rodney Dawes:

“So kudos to those involved in the ECMA OOXML process. More of you should be involved.”

*LOL* I can’t wait to blog about some of the latest bits from FFII, e.g.:

http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-28334/bundesfinanzhof-wants-less-microsoft

“Microsoft lobbyists should not draft German procurement policies or interpret them legally.”

http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-28337/microsoft-sponsors-din-conference

“Microsoft sponsors DIN conference

An american company sponsors a lobby event for its Open XML format which is organised by the German standard body and takes place in a German ministry.”

http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-28290/gnome-foundation-in-kahoots

“Gnome foundation in kahoots?

summary:

Having a delegate in the ECMA T45 Committee the Gnome foundation clarified its involvement in a superb standard development and bashes the vendor.

[...]

The Gnome foundation actively participated in the ECMA fast-tracking of Open XML as a sock puppet for Novell. Now the Foundation clarified its position that came under recent criticism.”

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By: Jeff Waugh http://techrights.org/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/comment-page-4/#comment-3623 Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:27:08 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/#comment-3623 Few in GNOME appreciate Rodney’s input.

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By: rlilly@yahoo.com http://techrights.org/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/comment-page-3/#comment-3622 Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:22:48 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/#comment-3622 Rodney Dawes is from Novell past or present?

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By: @w'e"eät http://techrights.org/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/comment-page-3/#comment-3619 Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:58:17 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/#comment-3619 And BTW, I think Rodney Dawes has has something to say to you:

“Well, for all those people who want to bemoan the world with their trifles about Microsoft trying to subvert the free world, here’s a hint:

Shut the hell up!

If all you’re going to do is bitch and moan about it, then you’re not part of the solution. You’re part of the problem.”
http://wayofthemonkey.com/?date=2007-11-25

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By: @w'e"eät http://techrights.org/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/comment-page-3/#comment-3618 Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:53:16 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/#comment-3618 “and you have annoyed other Webmasters as well”
One, to be exact, and yet we still talk/post to one another. He’s got class, though he is a lunatic; you are just a slimeball.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/comment-page-3/#comment-3617 Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:41:01 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/#comment-3617

You are paranoid. I only change my name here to avoid your censorship.

Ta muchly for the contradiction du jour.

I bet you would be deleting Jeff Waugh’s comments already..

Never. He is polite. Unlike you, who is going as far as verging Godwin’s Law… and you have annoyed other Webmasters as well… ones that deleted you comments and wanted you banned for good.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/comment-page-3/#comment-3615 Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:38:27 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/#comment-3615 If I asked questions for clarification on issues where there’s uncertainty, there would still be some bits that someone is unhappy with. It is not possible to predict what phrase will rub someone the wrong way. For example, an innocent technical misunderstanding can lead to the wrong conclusions. Sometimes, the sources that get cited are wrong (e.g. LinucPlanet on de Icaza intending to rewrite GNOME with Mono). I’m doing the best that I can given the time which is available. Things are moving quickly in the Linux world nowadays.

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By: @w'e"eät http://techrights.org/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/comment-page-2/#comment-3614 Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:36:26 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/#comment-3614 @Roy Schestowitz: “Don’t think that I don’t notice your constant nymshifting, E-mail address shifting, and wildly changing IP addresses.”

You are paranoid. I only change my name here to avoid your censorship. I bet you would be deleting Jeff Waugh’s comments already, if you could do that stealthily, Great Defender of our freedom…

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By: Jeff Waugh http://techrights.org/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/comment-page-2/#comment-3611 Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:18:22 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/#comment-3611 The only solution is peer review? When you have open access to the stakeholders who know what’s going on, and you write such dramatic, combative insinuations? You are attempting to avoid the obvious in every way you possibly can, which is sad for the community you hope to assist.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/comment-page-2/#comment-3609 Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:48:38 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/#comment-3609 Jeff,

In a sense, I reach out to GNOME when I research stuff. I don’t necessarily write to individuals, but I can read their Web pages and read (even cite) articles they write. When it comes to asking a question, it is hard to know which one/s to ask. The only solution is peer review (send complete text for feedback or editing), which for blog posts and comments isn’t quite so pragmatic.

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By: Jeff Waugh http://techrights.org/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/comment-page-2/#comment-3598 Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:06:17 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/#comment-3598 Note that I haven’t asked Roy to contact me before publishing anything about GNOME. I have suggested to him that he contact me (or the Board) to do research so that he can post facts (or opinions of the stakeholders involved) instead of posting insinuations.

He has this opportunity because we are an open community. Despite all the ugly attacks, I’ve kept my door open. He has yet to visit.

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By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/comment-page-2/#comment-3597 Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:03:21 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/#comment-3597

Once the board is elected, the board makes the decisions; not a bunch of extremists that just shout loud enough.

Once again you’re trying portray us as crazy barbarians. Don’t think that I don’t notice your constant nymshifting, E-mail address shifting, and wildly changing IP addresses. If you don’t try to be polite, we’ll have to delete your comments, since we can’t cage them before they are posted with personal attacks and strong language.

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By: -ezzzE*t http://techrights.org/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/comment-page-1/#comment-3592 Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:03:27 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/#comment-3592 Who are you to define ‘right’?

You might not have noticed, but GNOME is a representative democracy. Its board is an elected body that has full and legitimate authority to make decisions about its direction. I will never be able to make _everyone_ happy with its decisions, but it listens, and being elected it represents the views of the _majority_ of the people interested enough in GNOME to cast a vote.

Once the board is elected, the board makes the decisions; not a bunch of extremists that just shout loud enough.

Go take part in the board elections, or run for GNOME’s board yourself, if you’re not satisfied with any candidate.

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By: Victor Soliz http://techrights.org/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/comment-page-1/#comment-3589 Sun, 25 Nov 2007 14:10:04 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/#comment-3589 “eet” : It may be easy to move the responsibility away from the gnome foundation and blame this site for its mistakes. But the thing is that regardless of this site’s ways of reporting, which you keep criticizing it won’t change the fact that the gnome foundation is simply not taking the right decisions here.

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By: Slated http://techrights.org/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/comment-page-1/#comment-3588 Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:05:08 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/#comment-3588 @e-2e#t

Speaking of “nasty big Trolls” … with Trolls like you defending Gnome and Novell, they really don’t need enemies.

You state that Roy has “reached another low”, whereas all he has actually done is quoted other’s opinions, including those of some very prominent figures in the community. I suppose you’re going to claim that Alan Cox is just a Troll too, are you?

It’s time for you to face the fact that Gnome has sold out just as much as Novell has (no surprise there, given the very obvious connections).

At a time when GNU/Linux is starting to win the war against Microsoft, people like de Icaza, Waugh, and others seem determined to stick a spanner in the spokes of the wheel, and sabotage those gains, by playing their part in poisoning GNU/Linux with encumbered Microsoft technology.

The GNU/Linux community should be rejecting OOXML, Sliverlight, .NET, and all of Microsoft’s other “sour-grapes” reinventions … not embracing them. Why anyone in the community would even begin to want to poison GNU/Linux with that technology is a mystery.

I am sick of people on the other side of the argument using excuses like “don’t think in black and white terms” and “let’s be pragmatic”. To Hell with pragmatism. The very foundation of GNU/Linux is idealism … not “selling out” to the enemy.

People like you will not be content until every GNU/Linux user in the world is required to pay a license fee to Microsoft, and the previously Free software tree becomes closed, proprietary, Microsoft property.

Every time someone in the Free Software community supports Microsoft technology, we take one step closer to oblivion.

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By: TaQ http://techrights.org/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/comment-page-1/#comment-3587 Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:54:49 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/#comment-3587 It’s amazing the way eet and some others make their comments. Seems that there is some kind of pattern, maybe an intensive course for “friends of the interoperability” going somewhere, or at least a little book with all the rules … oh, wait, they can say the same about us, forget about that. :-)

Well, let’s forget about eet for a minute. There are going some really nice discussions about that on some mailing lists, as the GNOME Foundation one, and not just here. Let’s watch and see what happens. Really GNOME people, friends of GNOME, people who lived for it’s original purpose, talking there. Not us, the “trolls”. Maybe you can take a look there and tell us what you think, eet.

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By: e-2e#t http://techrights.org/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/comment-page-1/#comment-3586 Sun, 25 Nov 2007 09:27:41 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/#comment-3586 Now you have reached another low. After Jeff Waugh has made you look really trollish (it’s what you actually are) you don’t dare making your hilarious accusations yourself anymore but instead quote readers’ e-mails that repeat exactly the ridiculous stuff they’ve read on your website.

Concerning the anonymous e-mail you’ve quoted above:
Don’t act sorry. It was _you_ who has scared this naive user away from GNOME – so take ‘pride’ in your ‘success’ here! This is what comes of your slandering blog.

With friends like you, GNOME doesn’t need enemies.

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