IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: August 28th, 2009

schestowitzThistleWeb: Grauniad is like thatAug 28 00:00
ThistleWebsometimes they're not so bad, that was 3 out of 3 stories that seemed to have an anti-google slant, less the 2nd oneAug 28 00:01
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schestowitzThis is a good ownage: 28 00:32
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Could someone on Ubuntu Karmic with dual-screen twinview nVidia setup pls look at and confirm bug 420225. 28 00:33
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NotN: Row as Daniel Hannan praises Hitler 28 01:01
schestowitzThis is good: 28 01:02
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz apple doesn't sell on feature lists. anyone can have better features than apple. they sell on working, and working well.Aug 28 01:11
twitterApple, like M$ and all other free software companies sells by exclusion.Aug 28 01:11
twitterIt's not so much that they have a good phone, it's that monopoly buddy ATT allows iPhone's limited and malicious feature set.Aug 28 01:12
twitterIt's not so much that they had a good music player as it is that they and M$ strangled the market place with DRM deals.Aug 28 01:13
twitterthese things have excluded free software, which obviously can work better for different people than the one or two "choices" people actually have.Aug 28 01:14
twitterDifferent people have different needs and will always be better served by a customized interface.Aug 28 01:15
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twitterApple does have better phones, music players and computers than M$ and friends offer, but none of it is as useful, stable or flexible as the free devices people make for themselves.Aug 28 01:16
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twitterI don't like the way these people define their markets.  IBM and Google each already make much more money than this with free software. ->  IDC forecasts that Linux revenue will pass the $1 billion mark in 2012)Aug 28 01:19
twitterIBM makes their money with free software more directly than Google.Aug 28 01:20
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Zune Management Abandons Still 28 01:33
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @ml2mst Hi Marti! Haven't spoken to you in a few days. Hope you are wellAug 28 01:54
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twitterLOL -> CEO Michael Dell was pretty optimistic on the conference call. He said Dell believes customers will fall in love with PCs again and anticipates a "big refresh" through the balance of 2010 that will come from a new product cycle that includes Windows 7 and a new processor from Intel.Aug 28 02:17
twitterI don't think so.Aug 28 02:17
twitterFraud street -> 28 02:17
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twitterstock market "surge"  a company that used to be worth $55 gains 6% to end at $15.65!!!!  Excellent! 28 02:19
schestowitzHey, twitter Aug 28 02:19
twitter52 week low, $7.82Aug 28 02:19
twitterhiAug 28 02:19
schestowitzI have just posted a followup re FSFAug 28 02:19
twittercoolAug 28 02:20
schestowitz 28 02:20
twitterI was just thinking of that, writing up a Business Week article in comments.Aug 28 02:21
schestowitz :-)Aug 28 02:22
schestowitzBusinessWeek even attacks linkingAug 28 02:22
schestowitzThey are very, very vileAug 28 02:22
schestowitzThey can't make money from subscribingAug 28 02:22
schestowitzThey just 'sell space'Aug 28 02:22
twitterthere was nothing subtle in Business Week's attack on the FSF.Aug 28 02:23
twitterThey described the effort as "silly" unlikely to convince, a waste of money and the people doing it as "carried away" by "evangelism" and hatred of Microsoft.Aug 28 02:24
twitterIt was as nasty as they could be without puerile word choices to match their logic.Aug 28 02:25
twitterWhat's interesting is that the M$ people are having to take their crazy trolling mainstream.Aug 28 02:26
twitterThat means that Free Software is going mainstream, in other words, being understood and accepted by large numbers of ordinary people who have have nothing to do with computers as a business.Aug 28 02:28
schestowitz"Hatred of Microsoft," eh?Aug 28 02:29
schestowitzHypocrisy thereAug 28 02:29
schestowitzIt's like saying those horrible British hated their invadersAug 28 02:30
schestowitzThat the Russians 'hated' the GermanAug 28 02:30
twitterYes, totally irrational hatred built on mountains of court evidence and years of software administration experience.  Just blind bigotry.  Unix bigots in free software disguise!Aug 28 02:31
schestowitzAnd that those shiny Katrina victims 'hated' BushAug 28 02:31
schestowitz /shiny/whiny/Aug 28 02:31
schestowitzGood article on the subject: (" Are Linux users really a feral bunch? ")Aug 28 02:32
twitterAnarchists!  Communists!  Smelly hippies!  Cancer...Aug 28 02:33
twitterHa ha,  Russell Kennedy described as a "troll"Aug 28 02:34
twitterhis "IQ is on par with the common cockroach," oh my.Aug 28 02:38
twitterI can think of a couple of these ->  so-called FOSS advocates who try to shut down discussion of an issue by complaining to people above you in the food chain and making false claims; and people on the fringes of the FOSS community who try every trick in the book to appear more important than they are - and get miffed when they are put in their place.Aug 28 02:40
twitterOne of them recently trolled this place extensively.  The other is Bruce Byfield.Aug 28 02:41
twitter"You forget that I'm a journalist" he once said.  Most people would call that kind of forgetfulness generous and forgiving.Aug 28 02:42
twitter:)Aug 28 02:42
twitterIt's funny how Kennedy, for all of his late criticism of Vista and early rants about Windows 7, has come out and advocated Windows 7 as the "Best Windows Yet"Aug 28 02:43
twitterLOL ->   Defying Experts, Rogue Computer Code Still LurksAug 28 02:45
twitterSome experts are more expert than others.  Computer experts have been pointing out flaws in Windows forever.  Only the most ignorant or well paid "expert" will now tell you that Windows can be secured.Aug 28 02:46
cubezzzmy 20+ year "expert" opinion is windows is crapAug 28 02:47
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cubezzzI think VMS had the longest uptimeAug 28 02:49
twitterwhere to begin ?  ->  computer security experts from industry, academia and government joined forces in a highly unusual collaboration. They decoded the program and developed antivirus software that erased it from millions of the computers.Aug 28 02:52
twitteracademic cooperation is not unusual, it's how things are supposed to work.Aug 28 02:52
twitterConficker, I believe, politely responded when queried.  I'm not sure what kind of massive effort was required to develop software to detect it.Aug 28 02:53
cubezzzit seems netcraft doesn't report uptimes for BSD machinesAug 28 02:56
twitterAh, now I see, Windoze is so sophizticated that only government action could possibly have developed Conficker.  Ignore the hundreds of similar programs that have been around as long as people have hooked Windows to networks, the North Koreans are using your PC to design weapons of mass destruction!Aug 28 02:56
twitterThere is an insulting sub argument to the whole NYT piece.  It's that ordinary users can not have or develop best of class software.Aug 28 03:00
twitterIf you do this, you must be some kind of Communist spy or terrorist.Aug 28 03:01
twitterOrdinary sheep just use Winblows.  Everything else is strange and scary to the author.Aug 28 03:01
cubezzzI used a NextStep one time :)Aug 28 03:02
cubezzzIt's only been winblows since the early 90's (the beginning of the dark ages to be sure)Aug 28 03:03
cubezzzI can remember _before_ the dark ages thoughAug 28 03:03
cubezzzNextCube I should say, it was a long time agoAug 28 03:09
twitterMy computing dark ages began with M$ in the mid 80s and ended with GNU/Linux about 10 years ago.Aug 28 03:15
twitterToyota, the world's largest car maker, closes it's first factory ever.  The factory is a 25 year old plant in California. 28 03:17
twitteroutch!Aug 28 03:17
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twitterugh!  Reverse engineering compared to counterfeiting currency. 28 03:45
twitterha ha, a fraud by day and by night ->  Talton had found work as a loan broker in California's booming real-estate market and was printing money after hours. "Things were just going great."Aug 28 03:56
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Darl McBride Could Soon be Removed from Power 28 03:56
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why is IDG News Service Attacking the GPL? 28 03:59
twitterfunny thing about the counterfeit article, they used Genuine Expensive Software, Photoshop, for all their printing needs.Aug 28 03:59
schestowitzgnAug 28 04:05
cubezzzbtw...Aug 28 04:22
cubezzz 28 04:22
cubezzzruns Linux :-0Aug 28 04:22
twitterYet another idiot article comparing Windows 7 to Mac. 28 04:32
twitterFunny how they don't dare talk about GNU/Linux.Aug 28 04:32
twitterVista 7 hype log is updated. 28 04:33
twitterThe list of shame is getting pretty long.  I wonder how many "tech reporters" will spare themselves the indignity of praising Vista 7.Aug 28 04:34
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twitterWait a minute, Dell's profits declined but people thought that was good? 28 05:01
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twitter->  Dell's profits fell 23% and sales declined 22% for its fiscal second quarter ended July 31. Sales of desktop PCs and laptops—Dell's mainstay businesses—fell 33% and 21%, respectively. But revenues from corporate server computers and disk storage machines increased 7%. The prices of consumer and business PCs are falling rapidly, vexing computer makers that have relied on the machines for hefty chunks of their sales.Aug 28 05:02
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twitterMicrosoft Death Watch is updated. 28 05:07
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @d235j I'm not sure how to achieve the same functionality with another posting serviceAug 28 08:53
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Marti has written a very interesting piece on KDE: #linux #kde #fossAug 28 09:31
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] #followfriday @shitmydadsays "I'm 28. I live with my 73-year-old dad. He is awesome. I just write down shit that he says"Aug 28 09:45
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] just voted "Atheist! :D" on "Show Us Twitter's Religious Diversity." vote too ➔ 28 09:48
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Linux to Fill the Gap Left by Exploding iPhones and Overweight Sub-notebooks 28 10:18
schestowitzHey, _goblin Aug 28 10:18
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @_goblin Marti has written a very interesting piece on KDE: #linux #kde #fossAug 28 10:19
_goblinHi there!Aug 28 10:20
_goblinmiles awayAug 28 10:20
_goblinday off today and tomorrowAug 28 10:20
schestowitzCool. It has just cleared up here (sunny now)Aug 28 10:21
_goblinwindy and overcast here.Aug 28 10:21
schestowitzWas rainy just one hour agoAug 28 10:21
_goblinwhich is good, if it gets out, Ill have to do jobs in the gardenAug 28 10:21
_goblinthe wife has a listAug 28 10:21
_goblinalso been given a £50 voucher to spend on amazon ( a belated birthday present)Aug 28 10:22
schestowitzhere's what it looks like here ATM: 28 10:25
schestowitzNot a great idea to upload it to BN, but hey...Aug 28 10:25
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Am I the only one who strips affiliate IDs from URLS? I realise ppl need to make money, but making money for doing nothing but a link..?Aug 28 10:26
_goblinlike the pic!Aug 28 10:58
_goblinstandby....Ill make one of our back garden.Aug 28 10:58
schestowitzMortimer Zuckerman's $200 Million Gamble 28 10:59
schestowitz_goblin: it's a crappy Webcam thoughAug 28 10:59
_goblinupping on twitpic nowAug 28 11:00
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] - Boring photo of my back garden, for a conversation Im having...Luckily the weather is bad so I don't have to ...Aug 28 11:03
_goblinif you notice string holding up plants, its because if I dont do that the wind will snap them.Aug 28 11:04
_goblinand I appologize about the state of the shed......I keep meaning to spruce it up a little!Aug 28 11:05
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] The winner of Ukraine's Got Talent was an artist. You must watch this video: 28 11:08
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schestowitz_goblin: not a day for tanning, eh?Aug 28 11:20
schestowitzActually, saying "crappy webcam" is like saying "bi elephant"Aug 28 11:20
schestowitz*bigAug 28 11:20
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Patents Roundup: Microsoft and Linux 28 11:22
_goblinschestowitz: Nope! Thankfully....Aug 28 11:22
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @davidgerard The winner of Ukraine's Got Talent was an artist. You must watch this video: 28 11:25
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schestowitzHere is Mac fanboi blessing his Messiah and trashing Nokia: 28 11:41
schestowitzSo-called "open source"Aug 28 11:41
schestowitzJason called it a pseudo-open source guyAug 28 11:41
schestowitzDiablo-D3: old news, unless I'm missing s/t..?Aug 28 11:46
*Diablo-D3 is reading old newsAug 28 11:47
schestowitzIt's AstroTurfedAug 28 11:47
schestowitzin Slashdot I meanAug 28 11:47
schestowitzSo I've heard and I see it now for myselfAug 28 11:47
schestowitzLots of anti-RMS ad hominemAug 28 11:48
schestowitzProprietary: 28 11:49
schestowitzFor those who want OOo without the freedomAug 28 11:53
Diablo-D3 28 11:56
Diablo-D3bwhahahaaAug 28 11:56
schestowitzIs this true? 28 12:03
schestowitzMicrosoft does not support ODF properlyAug 28 12:03
schestowitzMicrosoft press: "Overall, the FSF is arguing about the ills of capitalism, which is a big topic. "Aug 28 12:08
schestowitz 28 12:08
schestowitzYeah, yeah.... "Microsoft is just capitalism..."Aug 28 12:08
schestowitzIf capitalism means bribery and violation of the law, then yeah... I guess..Aug 28 12:08
Omar871Hi all.Aug 28 12:10
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] just voted "Muslim! :D" on "Show Us Twitter's Religious Diversity." vote too ➔ 28 12:14
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] just voted "Atheist! :D" on "Show Us Twitter's Religious Diversity." vote too ➔ 28 12:15
schestowitz"Atheist! :D  35%  (2166 votes)"Aug 28 12:15
schestowitz:-)Aug 28 12:15
schestowitzMajorityAug 28 12:15
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Turns out that I'm with the majority: "Atheist! 35% (2166 votes)"Aug 28 12:17
schestowitzDell sees 'stability,' not growth < >Aug 28 12:19
Omar871schestowitz: And you feel proud about that? :)Aug 28 12:19
schestowitzNot reallyAug 28 12:20
schestowitzJust interesting how populations vary across sites/walks of lfieAug 28 12:20
schestowitzCanucks crack whip on Facebook privacy "Facebook has vowed to overhaul how personal information is shared with third-party applications after Canada's privacy Czar scolded the social website for its promiscuous policies. "Aug 28 12:20
schestowitz 28 12:21
schestowitzGoogle probed by Italy's anti-trust arm < >Aug 28 12:22
schestowitzHehe. 28 12:25
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schestowitzHehe.Aug 28 12:50
schestowitzI'm seeing a new pattern in more placesAug 28 12:50
schestowitzFSF says Microsoft is corruptAug 28 12:50
schestowitzMicrosoft press says FSF sayd capitalism is corruptAug 28 12:51
schestowitzThat's the talking point of choiceAug 28 12:51
schestowitzDescribing the FSF's criticism as so broad so as to make it look like anti-capitalistAug 28 12:51
oiaohmOld MS defence shield.Aug 28 12:51
oiaohm  << Nice Vga Arbitration long side DRI 2 and KMS this is going to be nice.Aug 28 12:53
schestowitzApple to explain why its phones explode 28 13:04
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Oracle is likely to sell Sun's hardware business to HP" 28 13:05
oiaohmDarn that is leap of faith.Aug 28 13:07
MinceR:DAug 28 13:07
schestowitz"Today we began research on Red Hat Inc. (NYSE: RHT).." sys-con junkAug 28 13:08
schestowitzHP SPARC?Aug 28 13:08
oiaohmOrcale would be foolish to sell of the hardware side.Aug 28 13:08
oiaohmit will put them at the mercy of the hardware companies.Aug 28 13:09
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schestowitzI'm creating a new section for Daily Links, called "AstroTurf"Aug 28 13:15
oiaohmI really don't know how MS is going to cope as Multi seat on linux start becoming a mainline distribution featureAug 28 13:16
schestowitz "still being assaulted wit mental images of Boston - is it the stupid !fsf campaign? good [pick your deity] people, grow up and be positive!"Aug 28 13:17
schestowitzoiaohm: price.Aug 28 13:17
oiaohm1 box 4 users.Aug 28 13:18
oiaohmOr more.Aug 28 13:18
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schestowitzLad from Lagos makes YouTube pitch < > Hahaha.Aug 28 13:24
schestowitz "The Home Office has admitted to losing a quarter of a million more records than it originally thought."Aug 28 13:27
schestowitzWPA keys gone in 60 seconds < >Aug 28 13:29
oiaohmOk 60 seconds.Aug 28 13:29
oiaohmLot fail in under 15 seconds or the rounter dies.Aug 28 13:29
oiaohmEither way attack wins.Aug 28 13:30
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schestowitzChanServ: I found what you may have looked forAug 28 13:40
schestowitz 28 13:41
schestowitz* cubezzz Aug 28 13:41
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schestowitzVista is still so loathed. 28 13:59
schestowitzIn New Zealand  they are now 'upgrading' to an OS from 2001. What fools! They should look at modern OSes other than WindowsAug 28 13:59
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Software Patent Troll in Sweden: 28 14:31
twitterno matter how old your windows crap is, "compatibility" is used as an excuse to go M$ Only.  ->  The system will have to integrate with Inland Revenue’s infrastructure and systems to support its business functions.Aug 28 14:32
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Goodit patent seems to be granted in Sweden: SE514733 Can't find it on the Swedish Patent Office websiteAug 28 14:33
twitter-> [NZ migration]  may also include migrating systems from Novell Netware file, print and messaging services to the Windows environment.Aug 28 14:33
twitterthere's 9 years worth of experience to tell them why moving to XP is not a good ideaAug 28 14:34
schestowitzMaybe they have "insider/fox" as Microsoft calls itAug 28 14:35
twitterThey should look at places like Munich.Aug 28 14:35
twitterChrysler, Lowes, etc.Aug 28 14:35
twitterThere are lots of successful gnu/linux migrations from NT, W2K.Aug 28 14:36
schestowitzre: oracle and hardware from SUN: "HP is an MS shop.  That would leave Fujitsu as the sole remaining,Aug 28 14:37
schestowitzmainstream SPARC vendor.  It would be a stupid move by Oracle, theyAug 28 14:37
schestowitzcould really leverage the hardware.  The x86 stuff, like any x86 stuff,Aug 28 14:37
schestowitzis crap.  But the SPARC architecture is really well-designed for serverAug 28 14:37
schestowitzactivities like those that Oracle makes its money from..."Aug 28 14:37
schestowitztwitter: New Zealand is an English-speaking nationAug 28 14:37
schestowitzThis means that it's an easy prey for the Microsoft Movement(C0Aug 28 14:38
schestowitzThe only exception over the years has been SA, but they are diverse and took lessons from apartheidAug 28 14:38
twitterDoes M$ really have problems outside of the English language?Aug 28 14:39
twitteror is it a US sphere of influence thing?Aug 28 14:40
twitterall the news I've read about FCC "regulation" of US Wireless looks like a protection of the status quo. 28 14:40
twitterthey talk of delays and act like regulating the iPhone app store would be an improvement for "consumers"Aug 28 14:40
twitterwhat the FCC should really be up to is well documented here 28 14:42
schestowitz". That heresy is one reason for the theme of this convention: Ubuntu." 28 14:46
schestowitzFrom "Alabama bishop defends Episcopal Church statement in support of ordaining homosexuals" < >Aug 28 14:47
schestowitzYes, US-tied countries usually speak the same language. They are the slowest to adopt Free software.Aug 28 14:47
schestowitzBrazil and south America are opposite examples... having suffered military coups from the neighbours up northAug 28 14:48
schestowitzcubezzz:,+Sharp+latest+Ubuntu+Netbook,+are+the+Zaurus+back+%3F+%E2%80%93+Hands-On+!!!.htmlAug 28 14:51
schestowitzHand-sizedAug 28 14:51
oiaohmtwitter: Non english Windows is known for funny typos in translations.Aug 28 14:53
oiaohmAlso windows lack the linux means to change the language of the interface simply.Aug 28 14:53
oiaohmSo it comes a problem in countries where people speek mult languages and need machines to change language simply so all users can do it.Aug 28 14:54
Aondoalot of weird translations in every program i think, even with foss! Atleast translated to norwegian heheAug 28 14:54
oiaohmFoss on adverage has a lower percentage of strange translations.Aug 28 14:55
oiaohmmostly because users feed back gets normally listerned to.Aug 28 14:55
twittersurely, ohm, M$ depends more on OEM and government manipulation than it does on it's laughable language skills.  M$ is also known to have problems with EnglishAug 28 14:55
oiaohmMS is reasonable with US english and britsh anything else its not right.Aug 28 14:56
Aondoi dont have any numbers, just what i have seen my self. but what i find that "hurt" the most is a mix with english and norwegian. some english here and some norwegian there. i guess i could translate that last bit my self tho :PAug 28 14:56
schestowitzI look forward to those ARM computers. This device will hopefully be exported from Japan soon. It helps people obtain a wonderful computer that also escapes the monopoly (including patents) of two criminal organisations, with convictions in multiple continents.Aug 28 14:56
AondoYea the arm is a great step forwardAug 28 14:57
schestowitzAondo: Ubuntu does .pm packagesAug 28 14:57
schestowitzAny polyglot can contributeAug 28 14:57
schestowitzAnd it goes upstream AFAIKAug 28 14:57
Aondoi know, i guess i dont becaus i like the english desktop the best anyway.Aug 28 14:58
schestowitzLinux has more language support ahn MicrosoftAug 28 14:58
Diablo-D3lol you said polyglotAug 28 14:58
schestowitzand Apple.. HAHA!!... Apple are only big in the US... and a little in west EU and JapanAug 28 14:58
schestowitzApple has very poor language support AFAIK... very narrowAug 28 14:58
schestowitzDiablo-D3: 28 14:59
Diablo-D3yes I know what it meansAug 28 15:00
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_Hicham_hola Don SchestowitzAug 28 15:04
Diablo-D3hes a mob boss now?!Aug 28 15:05
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twitterHere's an ARM computer that has won Chinese Communist approval. 28 15:09
twitterFree at last!Aug 28 15:10
twitterfree to "chose" iPhone.Aug 28 15:10
schestowitzMIPS is big in CHinaAug 28 15:10
schestowitzThey avoid the patents from the USSA this wayAug 28 15:11
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schestowitzLet's see how ARM does there. They have their own chips that are far cheaperAug 28 15:11
schestowitz$75 PCsAug 28 15:11
schestowitzWith Linux only, of courseAug 28 15:11
MinceR(flash) (video) (audio) 28 15:14
schestowitz"Rant: Nokia’s [Windows]netbook dissapoints" 28 15:14
schestowitzMinceR: maybe he did this with a defunct unitAug 28 15:15
MinceRobviouslyAug 28 15:16
MinceRall of them are.Aug 28 15:16
schestowitzLook at the iPhoneAug 28 15:16
schestowitzWhen it gets shotAug 28 15:16
schestowitzIt jumps like it's happyAug 28 15:16
oiaohmIf you remember costs of calculators you understand what is happening to the PC now.Aug 28 15:16
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schestowitz"This is just another Apple commercial in disguise. Nothing new here, move along people. "Aug 28 15:18
schestowitzPossible.Aug 28 15:18
oiaohmMS office on nokia OS had to come at a price.Aug 28 15:18
Aondoi would agree if the phone could stand that bullet :PAug 28 15:19
schestowitz "This is just another Apple commercial in disguise. Nothing new here, move along people. "Aug 28 15:20
twitterpeople are busy liberating iPhone and iTouch 28 15:24
MinceRwill they also add a keyboard? :>Aug 28 15:25
twitter 28 15:28
twitterI'm not sure.  Bluetooth keyboard should work.Aug 28 15:28
twitterI'd prefer xstrokeAug 28 15:28
twitterVGA over USB is possible for most ARM PDAs with expansion slots like CF and SD.Aug 28 15:30
Diablo-D3manAug 28 15:30
Diablo-D3they have those USB video... "cards" that can do 1920x1080 over USBAug 28 15:30
Diablo-D3its nutsAug 28 15:30
MinceRFreedom says their BT keyboard doesn't work yetAug 28 15:30
MinceRalso, pre-2.1 BT is pretty insecure.Aug 28 15:30
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MinceRStowaway disappeared somehow.Aug 28 15:31
MinceRalso, external keyboards won't work if you don't have a surface to set them down on.Aug 28 15:31
Diablo-D3MinceR: not trueAug 28 15:31
MinceRwhatAug 28 15:31
Diablo-D3magnetic levitationAug 28 15:31
MinceRit would be physically possible to make a clip-on BT keyboard but afaik nobody cared enough to make one for a long timeAug 28 15:32
Diablo-D3btwAug 28 15:32
Diablo-D3you technically could make a bt keyboard that was an ipod dockAug 28 15:33
Diablo-D3which largely scares the shit out of meAug 28 15:33
MinceRif it's a dock, it's kind of superfluous to use BTAug 28 15:33
Diablo-D3not at allAug 28 15:33
Diablo-D3ipods cant do usbAug 28 15:33
Diablo-D3not that way anywaysAug 28 15:33
MinceRwell, ipoos suck shitAug 28 15:33
MinceR(where did the usb host capable pdas go anyway?)Aug 28 15:34
Diablo-D3they're sitting next to the cure for cancerAug 28 15:34
MinceRafaik they used to existAug 28 15:35
Diablo-D3so did the cure for cancerAug 28 15:35
MinceRhuh?Aug 28 15:35
Diablo-D3rich people made it cease to existAug 28 15:35
Diablo-D3the irony is you're more likely to get cancer when you're richAug 28 15:35
Diablo-D3lighting cigars with hundred dollar bills is more dangerous than the cigars by themselvesAug 28 15:36
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MinceR:)Aug 28 15:36
MinceRit seems kind of pointless anyway -- you still need something to light those $100 billsAug 28 15:37
MinceRmight as well light the cigar with itAug 28 15:37
MinceRanyway, will a hypePod dock hold the hypePod securely if you're only holding the dock, turning it upside down, etc?Aug 28 15:38
schestowitz Linux to Remain in Older Model PS3s < >Aug 28 15:42
oiaohmYou will not find them lighting cigars with Australian 100 bills plastic don't burn too well.Aug 28 15:44
MinceRon the plus side, they're more harmful to their health :>Aug 28 15:45
oiaohmFunny enough cigars can be less harmful than cigerates.Aug 28 15:46
oiaohmReason all the extra chemicels in the cigerates filler materials.Aug 28 15:47
schestowitzAny link on that?Aug 28 15:50
schestowitzBut I bet cigar smoker also smoke less, unit-wiseAug 28 15:50
oiaohmHigh quality cigars don't have like wood chip filler.Aug 28 15:51
oiaohmIe pure leaf vs leaf + some cheep crap.Aug 28 15:51
schestowitzWell, either one is harmful anywayAug 28 15:51
schestowitzThose 'nicotine-masturbation' habits get to the cells sooner or laterAug 28 15:52
schestowitzI've seen everyone in my family who smoke get cancerAug 28 15:52
schestowitz*kedAug 28 15:52
oiaohmAlso the problem is toboco companies researched the plant to increase its drug yeld so they could use less leaf and more filler in cigerates.Aug 28 15:52
schestowitzOn the other hand, there are no smokers left now, soo...Aug 28 15:52
schestowitzoiaohm: same in Coca Cola IIRCAug 28 15:53
schestowitzLet's look it up againAug 28 15:53
schestowitz 28 15:53
oiaohmThere have been quite a few reports on it.Aug 28 15:53
oiaohmMore filler the more different chemicals you body has to process.Aug 28 15:54
schestowitz 28 15:54
schestowitzFirst time I visit the site BTWAug 28 15:54
schestowitz [PDF]Aug 28 15:56
schestowitz [PDF]Aug 28 15:56
schestowitzMore to the point, here's on historyAug 28 15:56
schestowitz"1903 The composition of Coca-Cola is changed, caffeine replacing the cocaine it contained until this time. " 28 15:57
schestowitzCould you liquidate tobacco and make it edible/drinkable?Aug 28 15:57
schestowitzAnd if so, will it have the same effect on cravings as when it travels through blood via the lungs?Aug 28 15:58
MinceRwell, nicotine works in skin patchesAug 28 15:58
schestowitzYeah, that's why I askAug 28 15:58
MinceRit could potentially work on ingestionAug 28 15:58
schestowitz"And what will you have with you Coke?" is their new slogan hereAug 28 15:58
schestowitzSaw it 2 days agoAug 28 15:58
schestowitzA marketing sloganAug 28 15:59
schestowitzThey have all those xmassy fancy-schmancy adsAug 28 15:59
schestowitzPeople see them as something to do with sex appeal and unity, rather than what it really isAug 28 15:59
schestowitzThe obsession people have with Coke reminds me of blind-folded Apple fansAug 28 16:00
schestowitz"What will yo..? COKE!"Aug 28 16:00
schestowitz"Would you like to ipod this tune?"Aug 28 16:00
MinceRmaybe they're parts of the new "american dream"Aug 28 16:00
schestowitz"Google her..."Aug 28 16:00
schestowitzCouldv'e meant something else in the age of Googol.Aug 28 16:00
schestowitzMinceR: AmericanDream(R) is reaching exirationdateAug 28 16:01
schestowitz 28 16:01
schestowitzLiability of $200k per citizenAug 28 16:02
schestowitzIncluding pensioners and kids... immigrants, villagers, whatever.Aug 28 16:03
schestowitzAt $5/hour it may take a while to repayAug 28 16:03
oiaohmdrinkable yes.Aug 28 16:03
oiaohmBut not edible.Aug 28 16:04
schestowitzAmericanDream(R) 2.0 = "Pay back debt"Aug 28 16:04
MinceRoiaohm: why?Aug 28 16:04
oiaohmacid in digestive track destroyes the drug.Aug 28 16:04
schestowitzAmericanDream(R) 1.0 = "Get more credit"Aug 28 16:04
schestowitzBuy SUV, etc.Aug 28 16:04
MinceRdoesn't it destroy it in drink form then?Aug 28 16:04
MinceRalso, you could soak something with the drinkAug 28 16:04
oiaohmIt simply reacts with it MinceRAug 28 16:04
MinceRor fill a capsuleAug 28 16:04
schestowitzJoin the military, fight with John RamboAug 28 16:04
oiaohmMonth.Aug 28 16:04
oiaohmMouth and thoat can take the drug in.Aug 28 16:05
schestowitzYeahAug 28 16:05
schestowitzSame thingAug 28 16:05
MinceRi thought AmericanDream 1.0 was "find out what you're good at, do it well, prosper"Aug 28 16:05
schestowitzFood is liquidsAug 28 16:05
schestowitzMostly waterAug 28 16:05
oiaohmso entering blood stream before its destoryed by the acid.Aug 28 16:05
schestowitzAnd molecules are mostly hollow, tooAug 28 16:05
oiaohmcapsule will not work.Aug 28 16:05
MinceRand AmericanDream 2.0 seems to be "get tons of money, preferably via immoral and unethical ways and be worshipped"Aug 28 16:05
schestowitzLike 99.999999% empty, at least in terms of weightAug 28 16:06
oiaohmBecuase you are end up with the acid again MinceRAug 28 16:06
schestowitzNucleus is where the mass isAug 28 16:06
MinceRoiaohm: icAug 28 16:06
MinceR171333 < oiaohm> Mouth and thoat can take the drug in.Aug 28 16:06
MinceR^ that's the key. :)Aug 28 16:06
schestowitz"<MinceR> i thought AmericanDream 1.0 was "find out what you're good at, do it well, prosper""Aug 28 16:06
schestowitzMinceR: that;'s the talking pointAug 28 16:06
schestowitzThe EPO has some tooAug 28 16:07
schestowitz"Become investor, make innovation, acquire patents, sue everyone, become billionaire like BIllG and famous like Stalin"Aug 28 16:07
schestowitzReality: EPO is privateAug 28 16:07
schestowitzLike the Federal ReserveAug 28 16:07
schestowitz*They* make the moneyAug 28 16:08
schestowitzAt the expense of fools who think their piece of paper with EPO sig is worth somethingAug 28 16:08
schestowitzNovell UK is in a mess this summerAug 28 16:09
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[nickballard] Slack FTW! (Slackware 13.0 Released) 28 16:09
schestowitzNewsworthy? 28 16:09
schestowitzLOLAug 28 16:15
schestowitzSee comments in 28 16:16
oiaohmThe funny part is that the cancer damage with a drink could be worse than smoking ie happen faster.Aug 28 16:17
schestowitzFirst WEP, Now WPA Encryption Falls < >Aug 28 16:17
schestowitzWatch the comments here: People want the author to bring on the KDE4! :-)Aug 28 16:20
schestowitzThey could at least customise GNOME betterAug 28 16:20
schestowitzGNOME looks good, but not in UbuntuAug 28 16:20
schestowitzRead this: 28 16:21
schestowitzAnd then this: 28 16:21
schestowitz"Mandelson!" again!Aug 28 16:21
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[nickballard] just voted "Other Christian! :D " on "Show Us Twitter's Religious Diversity." vote too ➔ 28 16:24
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schestowitz"Goldman sued over AIG sublease deal" 28 17:17
schestowitz 28 17:21
MinceRthe keyboard is too small :/Aug 28 17:22
MinceRand so is the displayAug 28 17:23
schestowitzShrink thyselfAug 28 17:23
MinceRi doubt that's a good ideaAug 28 17:23
schestowitzUpdate On Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Benchmarks < > Why even waste time on it? Let Apple spend time and money doing its benchwankAug 28 17:24
schestowitzMinceR: no, it's OK. You can grow back afterwards. Remember the sequel to "Honey, I shrank the kids"?Aug 28 17:25
MinceRjust to use a netbook/smartbook?Aug 28 17:25
MinceRthe shrink/grow machine is unlikely to be portableAug 28 17:26
amarsh04schestowitz - recent transcript of a radio segment on children in Malawi absorbing 50 cigarettes/day worth of nicotine through the skin by harvesting tobaccoAug 28 17:26
schestowitzPTS Bardu Makes Its Alpha Debut < > Waste of time -- mac portsAug 28 17:26
amarsh04 28 17:27
schestowitzamarsh04: so they get addicted to work?Aug 28 17:27
amarsh04it makes them sick, coughing up blood etcAug 28 17:28
schestowitzThey sacrifice for the money... 2 cents/dayAug 28 17:30
schestowitzAfter 50 years they can purchase an iPod... if they surviveAug 28 17:30
schestowitzThat's why I added it to daily linksAug 28 17:31
schestowitzI'm gonna add an 'AstroTurf' sectionAug 28 17:31
schestowitzEthics: the Linus kryptoniteAug 28 17:31
amarsh04I think Carla Schroder had one recent article for links that weren't strictly on-topicAug 28 17:32
schestowitzShe did the MSBBC oneAug 28 17:33
schestowitzFunny she didn't add a warning that it was satireAug 28 17:33
amarsh04I should buy a copy of her book on audacity when it comes outAug 28 17:37
schestowitzCarla covers some politics tooAug 28 17:39
schestowitzI'm surprised about Linus. His father was exceptionally politically activeAug 28 17:39
schestowitz"A spokesperson from the NSW department of Education and Training (DET) today confirmed that GeoGebra, Dia,  Audacity, Freemind and MuseScore would all be included on the devices."Aug 28 17:41
schestowitz What a sham. They just try to appease the FS crowd, knowing that they did something bad.Aug 28 17:42
amarsh04I felt particularly put off by one SA Department of Education head who was damning in her faint praise of me taking an interest in the software used in state high schoolsAug 28 17:43
amarsh04the microsoft platforms and applications to the exclusion of all others makes me sickAug 28 17:46
amarsh04still waiting on the reply card from the registered letter I sent regarding a local company's use of busybox in their adsl routers without meeting gpl obligationsAug 28 17:48
cubezzzI was talking to a phd student yesterdayAug 28 17:50
cubezzzhe told me for one of his classes he had to use Microsoft Word 2007Aug 28 17:51
cubezzzno other version was permissibleAug 28 17:51
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schestowitzHe should abandon then or lobby to change thisAug 28 18:06
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] MIT Puts GNU/Linux on Most Machines with Debathena 28 18:18
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] GNU/Linux Desktops Deemed Suitable for Businesses and Schools 28 18:20
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Beta of Skype for GNU/Linux 28 18:25
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Linux 2.6.31 Reaches Eighth Release Candidate 28 18:32
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Fake Linus Torvalds Contest to Start 28 18:37
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Slackware 13.0 is Released 28 18:49
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Slackware Derivative Vector Linux Reviewed 28 18:50
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Linux Mint 7 "Gloria" is Glorious 28 18:51
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Features in Ubuntu 9.10 Shown Visually 28 18:57
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] GNU/Linux Remains on Existing PS3s 28 19:03
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Android Spreads Further to More Companies, Devices 28 19:05
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Opinion: Linux Phones Should Be Made Free (Gratis, Initially) 28 19:07
cubezzzwell at least MIT seems to be on the right trackAug 28 19:09
cubezzzprobably due to Stallman's influenceAug 28 19:09
schestowitzThey recently got Exchange poisoningAug 28 19:11
cubezzzexchange poisoning?Aug 28 19:14
cubezzzoh, I see :)Aug 28 19:15
cubezzzwell, I find that a lot of the younger ones use Microsoft everythingAug 28 19:17
cubezzzexcluding most of the ones in hereAug 28 19:17
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 3.1.1 is Out 28 19:18
cubezzzI think most of MIT's web server's are LinuxAug 28 19:20
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Free Software Has Deep Impact on Telephones 28 19:24
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Forks Can Make Free Software Stronger 28 19:25
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Open Waters to Study How Businesses and Government Can Turn Free Software to Gain 28 19:26
schestowitzcubezzz: yeah, MIT is mostly BSD and stuff,  stillAug 28 19:27
schestowitzAlthough it's more west coastAug 28 19:27
schestowitzBerkleyAug 28 19:28
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] #b3ta challenge in progress: steampunk! 28 19:29
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_goblinhello al!Aug 28 19:36
_goblin*allAug 28 19:36
*_goblin is now known as _GoblinAug 28 19:36
trmanco 28 19:37
trmancowowAug 28 19:37
trmancoit's been 8 yearsAug 28 19:37
trmancoand it wasn't an apache problemAug 28 19:38
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Africa is Training People for Free Software 28 19:38
schestowitzHey, _Goblin Aug 28 19:39
trmanco 28 19:40
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Push to Free Computers 28 19:50
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] SD Card Association Poisoned by Abusive Monopoly, Microsoft 28 19:59
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] 379 políticos têm pensão vitalícia->Custo anual ultrapassa os 8 milhões : || Crise?os pequenos k se f*dam, né?Aug 28 19:59
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Isto em Portugal está bom é para ser político...Aug 28 20:00
_Goblin*** Please everyone ignore my next few lines of messages - I am testing out a theory ***Aug 28 20:02
_Goblinwindows mono xp vista vista 7 microsoft novellAug 28 20:02
_Goblin**END TEST**Aug 28 20:03
_Goblinsorry about that...Aug 28 20:03
_Goblinbeen given some info that one of the users here is a bot which notifies certain users when keywords are used...Aug 28 20:04
_Goblinjust wanted to see if anyone joined as a result of those keywords.Aug 28 20:04
_Goblinthanks for leting me indulge.....  duff information.Aug 28 20:05
twittersounds like fun, Goblin.Aug 28 20:06
twitterMicrosoft Sucks.Aug 28 20:06
_Goblinlol...Aug 28 20:06
twitterIE is a mess.Aug 28 20:06
_Goblinwhen wasnt it?Aug 28 20:06
twitterBefore M$ stole it from Spyglass?Aug 28 20:06
_GoblinIE 6 - The browser that decides which search engine you will use...Aug 28 20:07
twitterI think that's an OS function.Aug 28 20:07
_Goblin"stole" is such an nasty word ;) !! How about "Unlawful acquisition"Aug 28 20:07
_GoblinI should write PR for MS....Aug 28 20:08
twitterYou probably have to get a PhD in dishonesty from the CIA before they will look at your resume.Aug 28 20:09
_GoblinI also think one in stupidity is required too.  Would explain much in regards to the COLA trollsAug 28 20:11
twitterit is always stupid to lieAug 28 20:11
twitterbut the cola trolls are stupid on purpose, to waste time on the obviousAug 28 20:12
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] iPhone Gets a Lot of Publicity Because It's Exploding 28 20:12
_Goblinnot good news about the Iphone......Aug 28 20:12
_Goblinwhatever people want to say about Apple, at least it was another alternative on the market.Aug 28 20:13
_Goblinrather that than WinMOBAug 28 20:14
cubezzzpossibly the battery?Aug 28 20:15
schestowitzcubezzz: yeahAug 28 20:19
schestowitzTime for Apple to kill another Chinese factory workerAug 28 20:19
twittermy last netbook write up 28 20:20
schestowitz 28 20:20
schestowitz"But according to a report in the influential Nanfang Daily, Sun, a 25-year-old product manager, became frantic after discovering that one of 16 prototypes of Apple's fourth-generation N90 iPhone had gone missing. The iPhone is Apple's hottest-selling device and the latest version is a well-kept secret."Aug 28 20:20
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] .@wikisignpost jimbo's role is PR and gently suggesing stuff. like a proper decorative monarch. also to bring us tourist income. #wikipediaAug 28 20:29
twittermy current netbook submission 28 20:31
twitterfive netbooks that M$ has killedAug 28 20:31
twitterFCC "regulation" of the cell phone market is a farce.  The best they can do is to make Apple's app store nicer?  Worthless!Aug 28 20:33
cubezzzok, given the exact same netbook, one with windows the other with Linux, is the price the same?Aug 28 20:37
cubezzzSince the Linux one should be cheaper right?Aug 28 20:37
cubezzzcan't the manufacturer just offer both operating systems?Aug 28 20:38
cubezzzno need to "kill" anythingAug 28 20:38
cubezzzthe other thing I don't understand is how is Microsoft even able to dicate terms to the manufacturers?Aug 28 20:41
cubezzzI guess it's all in the contracts :-/Aug 28 20:42
cubezzz"cease production at Microsoft's request"Aug 28 20:46
cubezzzthat's just not rightAug 28 20:46
trmanco 28 20:50
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Megan Fox loves kissing girls: 28 21:13
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Megan Fox Likes It Rough: 28 21:13
schestowitzThis show neglects to show evidence: They say only once that it's a "controversial theory"Aug 28 21:16
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Can Bill Gates stop hurricanes? Scientists doubt it: || Same man who said spam would be gone by this time...Aug 28 21:18
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] RT @daily_finance Microsoft's secret 'screw Google' meetings in D.C. -- DailyFinance 28 21:21
schestowitz 28 21:29
schestowitzTrappedAug 28 21:29
schestowitztrmanco: LawMedia GroupAug 28 21:30
schestowitzThey should be put in prisonAug 28 21:30
schestowitzAstroTurfAug 28 21:30
trmancoI've heard of themAug 28 21:30
trmanco"Grrr! A popup blocker may be preventing Google Reader from opening the page. If you have a popup blocker, try disabling it to open the window."Aug 28 21:33
trmancowowAug 28 21:33
trmanco:DAug 28 21:33
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Grrr! A popup blocker may be preventing Google Reader from opening the page. If you have a popup blocker, try disabling it to open the windoAug 28 21:34
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] OMEN 28 21:34
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Sergey Brin and Wife Donate $500,000 to Creative Commons 28 21:37
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Robot to solve a Rubik's cube, built from Lego HT @antoinemussoAug 28 21:41
trmanco 28 21:42
trmancomicrosoft runs out of moneyAug 28 21:42
trmancobefore it was expectedAug 28 21:43
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Partners with Google, yFrog, Typepad and CBS: 28 21:48
schestowitztrmanco: that's some stupid BillG PRAug 28 21:52
schestowitzThe whole "Billie will save the world" themeAug 28 21:52
trmanconahAug 28 21:52
schestowitzBetter to ignore it. It also comes from elite's press (CNN)Aug 28 21:53
trmancobilly will ruin it even moreAug 28 21:53
trmancowhat if what they are thinking of doing has the opposite effect?Aug 28 21:53
schestowitzHe already doesAug 28 21:53
schestowitzRemember he pollutes the worldAug 28 21:53
schestowitzHe's investing in oil giantsAug 28 21:53
schestowitzThose who pollute knowingly even more, to save costAug 28 21:53
schestowitzThey prevent burying the waste cause it's cheaperAug 28 21:54
schestowitzThey also kill many kids in Nigeria this wayAug 28 21:54
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] How the Sun Influences Planetary Climate: 28 21:55
schestowitzOracle ought the Sun and the ClimateAug 28 21:57
trmancoheheAug 28 22:01
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schestowitzSerdar Yegulalp takes on the FSF (no surprise here):;jsessionid=ORD23Z45PPLMFQE1GHRSKH4ATMY32JVNAug 28 22:10
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Yahoo! loses spot at Britain's biggest ISP: 28 22:10
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] the best coverage yet of #wikipedia flagged revisions 28 22:10
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Nobody expects the ... MOVEMENT FOR THE CONTAINMENT OF XMAS! 28 22:21
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Judges Appointed in SCO Case 28 23:16
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Watching @daraobriain on MTW.. reminded of.. 28 23:36
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NotN: Google repels Microsoft attack on London offices 28 23:45
EruaranMicrosoft booster Steven Musil markets for Microsoft in "Apple Unleashes Snow Leopard" article:Aug 28 23:47
Eruaran 28 23:48
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[d235j] Okay, so how do you *compress* a file with HFS+ compression? @eschatonAug 28 23:48

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