| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Standards in #FogComputing Encouraged, #Freedom of Web at Stake http://ur1.ca/ef7q http://ur1.ca/ef7r | Oct 26 00:01 | |
| phIRCe | Title: What does a cloud computing user want? | Blog | Bob Sutor .::. Size~: 55.36 KB | Oct 26 00:01 |
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| phIRCe | Title: What is the open web? Two things, at least. « commonspace .::. Size~: 22.82 KB | Oct 26 00:01 |
| oiaohm | I have been thinking threat to palmos is if kde plasma ever scales down to phones. | Oct 26 00:14 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IntellectualMonopolies Seen as Unreasonable, #Draconian Even http://ur1.ca/ef8u http://ur1.ca/ef8w | Oct 26 00:18 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Pirate Party UK - Blog - PRS threatens shop worker for singing .::. Size~: 13.93 KB | Oct 26 00:18 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Reminder of Reasons to Stay Away from #Apple Products http://ur1.ca/ef8z #patents | Oct 26 00:19 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Apple Applies for Patent on OS With Embedded Advertising - Business Center - PC World .::. Size~: 44.57 KB | Oct 26 00:19 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] With #Microsoft Funding, #SCO Keeps Attacking #Linux in Court http://ur1.ca/ef91 http://ur1.ca/ef92 | Oct 26 00:20 | |
| phIRCe | Title: SCO thrashes on - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 140.53 KB | Oct 26 00:20 |
| phIRCe | Title: Groklaw - Minutes from the October 23, 2009 SCO Bankruptcy Hearing .::. Size~: 103.81 KB | Oct 26 00:20 |
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| _goblin | Using Konqueror makes me appreciate the speed of Chromium so much more. | Oct 26 00:21 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Bulgaria in Perfect Position to Embrace #FreeSoftware http://bit.ly/JHUbf | Oct 26 00:24 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Bulgaria Cabinet Short in Cash to Pay for Microsoft Deal: Bulgaria Cabinet Short of Cash to Pay for Microsoft Deal - Novinite.com - Sofia News Agency .::. Size~: 55.76 KB | Oct 26 00:24 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: ThunderBrowse is Lightning SPeed | Oct 26 00:27 |
| Goblin_Chakra | up to Chromium standards? | Oct 26 00:28 |
| _goblin | sorry, ill stick with this IRC client for simplicity... | Oct 26 00:28 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft #Bribes 777 Korean Bloggers to Promote #Vista7 http://bit.ly/sGYK0 | Oct 26 00:30 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Microsoft Windows 7 launched in Korea with 777 power bloggers - CNET Asia Blogs: DigiHunter by Kevin (Kilmo) Kang, Korea .::. Size~: 49.58 KB | Oct 26 00:30 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More #Shilling #Accounts in #Twitter , Courtesy of #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/ef9s @MicrosoftHelps Nobody | Oct 26 00:31 | |
| phIRCe | Title: More Twitter Love From Microsoft As It Sets Up @MicrosoftHelps .::. Size~: 52.16 KB | Oct 26 00:31 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Shows Huge Scale of #Windows #Botnets , Roughly Agrees 320,000,000 Are Zombies http://www.itwire.com/content/view/28745/53/ | Oct 26 00:33 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Vista7 -- Like #Vista -- is Critically Insecure Upon Arrival http://ur1.ca/efa3 http://ur1.ca/efa6 | Oct 26 00:35 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Microsoft issues first Windows 7 patches ( - Software - Security ) .::. Size~: 34.72 KB | Oct 26 00:35 |
| oiaohm | Bots are the worset things to be stopping lot have auto matic update systems these days. | Oct 26 00:36 |
| oiaohm | So they update to prevent removal systems. | Oct 26 00:36 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] There is No Windows 7; Vista 7 is Windows 6.1.7600.16385. Check the Registry!! | Oct 26 00:39 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Vista7 Student Edition is Seriously Broken, Microsoft Admits Problem http://ur1.ca/efae | Oct 26 00:42 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Microsoft Acknowledges Problems With Windows 7 Student Edition Upgrades - windows 7 - Gizmodo .::. Size~: 62.69 KB | Oct 26 00:42 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Analyst: #Microsoft Sales to Get Even Worse http://ur1.ca/efag | Oct 26 00:43 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Netbooks, Office likely to keep hurting Microsoft sales, analyst says .::. Size~: 138.97 KB | Oct 26 00:43 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Important #Truths About #Vista7 Enumerated http://bit.ly/2Fm6FP | Oct 26 00:45 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] "My Windows 7 hell" So Microsoft , this is better than Vista is it?http://tinyurl.com/yjlgu85 #microsoft #windows #vista #xp #fail | Oct 26 00:45 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Things to Know About Windows 7 - Elf Clan Social Network .::. Size~: 52.1 KB | Oct 26 00:45 |
| phIRCe | Title: My Windows 7 Hell ~ Dan Wood .::. Size~: 64.43 KB | Oct 26 00:45 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ballmer Terrified of #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/e6el see paragraph about skiing | Oct 26 00:47 | |
| phIRCe | Title: IBM tries to woo business customers from Windows 7 - Technology Live - USATODAY.com .::. Size~: 50.32 KB | Oct 26 00:47 |
| oiaohm | This is going to get interesting to see how Ubuntu release is treated. | Oct 26 00:47 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft: Buying Memory Not from Us Will Help Gamers Cheat?!?!? http://ur1.ca/efay #haha | Oct 26 00:51 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Destructoid - Microsoft's reasoning for blocking non-MS memory units .::. Size~: 150.4 KB | Oct 26 00:51 |
| oiaohm | Hmm how long before MS forces everyone to update the Xbox360 memory units to ones that refused to be altered by other defices. | Oct 26 00:52 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Copies #Apple http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/22833/ | Oct 26 00:55 | |
| phIRCe | Title: MacDailyNews - Dvorak: Microsoft needs Microsoft-branded PCs for their retail stores .::. Size~: 91.9 KB | Oct 26 00:55 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #NASDAQ Sells Out to Convicted Monopolist #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/efbe #fraudstreet | Oct 26 00:56 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Brier Dudley's blog | Microsoft gets Nasdaq opening bell, in Redmond | Seattle Times Newspaper .::. Size~: 54.31 KB | Oct 26 00:56 |
| oiaohm | Please MS Please release a MS pc to piss all other PC makers off with you. | Oct 26 00:56 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #BusinessInsider: #Microsoft's Still Toast; #DailyFinance Gives Microsoft a "C" http://ur1.ca/efbj http://ur1.ca/efbk | Oct 26 00:59 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Microsoft's Still Toast .::. Size~: 54.52 KB | Oct 26 00:59 |
| phIRCe | Title: Microsoft happy with its gentleman's C -- DailyFinance .::. Size~: 81.77 KB | Oct 26 00:59 |
| cubezzz | wow, MS PC sounds so horrible | Oct 26 00:59 |
| cubezzz | total lock-in | Oct 26 00:59 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft 's Bad Results Are Telling, Big #Layoffs Rumoured for November 4th http://ur1.ca/efbm | Oct 26 01:00 | |
| phIRCe | Title: CNBC Blows Microsoft Guidance Cut, Creaming Stock (MSFT) .::. Size~: 86.55 KB | Oct 26 01:00 |
| oiaohm | Anyone think MS is starting to look like another enron. Too large to fail but will. | Oct 26 01:03 |
| cubezzz | or GM? | Oct 26 01:03 |
| cubezzz | no company is invincible | Oct 26 01:04 |
| oiaohm | I do think its good they are selling more copies than ever yet making less and less profit. | Oct 26 01:05 |
| oiaohm | Saturation effect is hitting them big time. | Oct 26 01:05 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Throws #FUD at Google's Web Browsers, Hypocritically http://bit.ly/1gcGX2 | Oct 26 01:07 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Microsoft criticises privacy in Chrome 3.0 - ZDNet.co.uk .::. Size~: 110.73 KB | Oct 26 01:07 |
| oiaohm | Linux does not have to defeat windows. MS will do that to themselves Linux just has to be there to put the boot in. | Oct 26 01:07 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Sneaks Its Mole #Courtois Into the European Commission http://ur1.ca/efcc #hijack #owned | Oct 26 01:08 | |
| cubezzz | you can only squeeze for so long | Oct 26 01:08 |
| cubezzz | I think it's the FOSS concept itself that has changed everything | Oct 26 01:08 |
| cubezzz | quite revolutionary | Oct 26 01:08 |
| cubezzz | and you have to give a lot of credit to Stallman for buttressing it all with the GPL | Oct 26 01:09 |
| oiaohm | The ideas of how FOSS works are complex but effective. | Oct 26 01:10 |
| oiaohm | You cannot take blood out a stone. | Oct 26 01:10 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Uses Its #AstroTurf Army to Shoot Down #MySQL http://ur1.ca/efci see ending; also http://ur1.ca/efcj | Oct 26 01:10 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Oracle’s Safra Catz Meets With EU’s Kroes Over Sun (Update2) - Bloomberg.com .::. Size~: 29.2 KB | Oct 26 01:10 |
| oiaohm | ie if people cannot pay they still need software. | Oct 26 01:10 |
| oiaohm | Yet people want software to run dependable so will pay for that. | Oct 26 01:10 |
| oiaohm | Either in time or money. | Oct 26 01:10 |
| oiaohm | So foss works quite well. | Oct 26 01:10 |
| oiaohm | Never has to face the presure problems MS currently has. | Oct 26 01:11 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Wants #ISO Certification After Committing #Crimes and #Corruption Against/with ISO http://ur1.ca/efcn | Oct 26 01:12 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Microsoft wants ISO security certification for its Cloud services ( - Internet - Security - IT Management ) .::. Size~: 35.08 KB | Oct 26 01:12 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, also people like to program | Oct 26 01:12 |
| cubezzz | so those types will naturally turn to FOSS projects | Oct 26 01:13 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Gates Patents Foundation and the #Rockefeller 'Foundation' Join Forces for Food #Monopolies http://ur1.ca/efcr | Oct 26 01:14 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Hunger, Hypocrisy And The U.N. - Forbes.com .::. Size~: 29.86 KB | Oct 26 01:14 |
| oiaohm | cubezzz: the more locations that coveret to open source the more paid developers Linux gets. | Oct 26 01:17 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google Helps #Microsoft Lose Money http://bit.ly/uYe7p | Oct 26 01:24 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Yahoo-Microsoft Blocked in EU http://bit.ly/JCRgQ | Oct 26 01:25 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The #WallStreet Journal Admits That #Icahn Role in Yahoo-Microsoft is "Proxy Fight" http://ur1.ca/efd9 #crime #whitecollar | Oct 26 01:25 | |
| phIRCe | Title: KLIV - Yahoo-Microsoft proposed deal stalls in Europe .::. Size~: 54.06 KB | Oct 26 01:25 |
| phIRCe | Title: 4th UPDATE: Icahn Offers To Underwrite $6 Billion Loan To CIT - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 100.93 KB | Oct 26 01:25 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Gartner Lawsuit Due to Promotion of Paying Clients (Like Bribe) http://ur1.ca/efdb #microsoft | Oct 26 01:27 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Mark Logic CEO Blog: Gartner Sued Over Magic Quadrant for Alleged Damages of $132M plus Punitives of $1.3B .::. Size~: 140.21 KB | Oct 26 01:27 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Two White-collar Criminals, #GoldmanSachs and #Microsoft , Pay #Obama the Most http://ur1.ca/efdh | Oct 26 01:29 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Obama & Google (a love story) - Oct. 22, 2009 .::. Size~: 92.17 KB | Oct 26 01:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | lol | Oct 26 01:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | like they're going to get $132m out of Gartner | Oct 26 01:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | maybe $1.32, enough to get a burger at mcds | Oct 26 01:29 |
| cubezzz | is that enough for a big mac? :) | Oct 26 01:31 |
| schestowitz | 100 of them! | Oct 26 01:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | arent those $2.99 now? | Oct 26 01:31 |
| schestowitz | http://supersizedmeals.com/food/article.php/20060125050438458 | Oct 26 01:31 |
| cubezzz | don't know, haven't been in a mcdonalds in a long time | Oct 26 01:31 |
| phIRCe | Title: SupersizedMeals.com - In 'n' Out 100x100 Burger .::. Size~: 115.26 KB | Oct 26 01:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | in and out burger, btw, apparently is very good | Oct 26 01:32 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #WindowsMobile to Get Bitten by #Vista7 Mess http://bit.ly/1931e3 | Oct 26 01:32 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Windows 7's Mangled Mobile Opportunity - Reviews by PC Magazine .::. Size~: 80.5 KB | Oct 26 01:32 |
| cubezzz | I stopped with the fast food at 35 | Oct 26 01:34 |
| cubezzz | seriously I can't even eat burgers any more | Oct 26 01:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dont like MCDs | Oct 26 01:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: ahh | Oct 26 01:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats because | Oct 26 01:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | you're eating the wrong burgers | Oct 26 01:35 |
| *Diablo-D3 makes his own | Oct 26 01:35 | |
| Diablo-D3 | best burgers ever ;_; | Oct 26 01:35 |
| cubezzz | I still eat hamburger, just not McDonalds or Burger King | Oct 26 01:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | burger king is hit and miss | Oct 26 01:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | some are good, some are fucking trash | Oct 26 01:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | and Im not sure why | Oct 26 01:35 |
| cubezzz | the fast food in Iowa seemed a lot better | Oct 26 01:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | McDs has their quality control locked down, the experience is consistently shit | Oct 26 01:36 |
| cubezzz | lol | Oct 26 01:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | but burger king, depends on how its ran | Oct 26 01:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | like, the one here in ellsworth, its decent | Oct 26 01:36 |
| cubezzz | in Canada we have Harvey's and it's not good | Oct 26 01:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | the one up in bangor tastes like shit | Oct 26 01:36 |
| cubezzz | maybe they use cheaper meat | Oct 26 01:37 |
| cubezzz | I have almost stopped eating pizza | Oct 26 01:38 |
| cubezzz | down to once a month | Oct 26 01:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | meh, too much pizza ruins it | Oct 26 01:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | more than once every two weeks ruins it imo | Oct 26 01:38 |
| cubezzz | too fatty and also too salty | Oct 26 01:39 |
| cubezzz | one of my associates gets "vegetarian pizza" | Oct 26 01:42 |
| cubezzz | no cheese and no meat | Oct 26 01:42 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: | Oct 26 01:42 |
| schestowitz | I got banned. I tried to connect just now to BN IRC and got this message: | Oct 26 01:42 |
| schestowitz | [16:32] == #boycottnovell You're banned from that channel | Oct 26 01:42 |
| schestowitz | I even tried under another nick. What's happening? | Oct 26 01:42 |
| schestowitz | ^Quote | Oct 26 01:42 |
| cubezzz | but I haven't tried it myself | Oct 26 01:42 |
| *schestowitz gives channel operator status to schestowitz_log | Oct 26 01:43 | |
| *schestowitz_log removes ban on *!*@gateway/web/* | Oct 26 01:43 | |
| *schestowitz_log removes ban on *!?=cheese@* | Oct 26 01:43 | |
| *schestowitz_log removes ban on ROY_sucks_everyo!*@* | Oct 26 01:43 | |
| *schestowitz_log removes ban on ROY_wanker!*@* | Oct 26 01:43 | |
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| *schestowitz_log removes ban on whatajok!*@* | Oct 26 01:43 | |
| *schestowitz_log removes ban on cheeses!*@* | Oct 26 01:43 | |
| *schestowitz_log removes ban on *!?=795eb2fe@* | Oct 26 01:43 | |
| *schestowitz_log removes ban on SomeOtherGuy!*@* | Oct 26 01:43 | |
| *schestowitz_log removes ban on moshe_!*@* | Oct 26 01:43 | |
| *schestowitz_log removes ban on zzlg!*@* | Oct 26 01:43 | |
| fewa | its possible to make non-disgusting pizza | Oct 26 01:48 |
| *DaemonFC (i=Ryan@c-69-245-242-208.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 26 01:49 | |
| *schestowitz watches http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXxnJj5CxM0 | Oct 26 01:58 | |
| phIRCe | Title: YouTube - Ralph Nader on the rise and fall of Madoff - 13 March 2009 .::. Size~: 173.3 KB | Oct 26 01:58 |
| fewa | Nader's Lebanese | Oct 26 02:00 |
| schestowitz | He speaks about the AIG thing | Oct 26 02:02 |
| schestowitz | 20 pages | Oct 26 02:02 |
| schestowitz | I see... | Oct 26 02:02 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RT: @OpenOffice.org OOo4Kids 0.5.1 Available for Download . http://tinyurl.com/yfah9xg | Oct 26 02:04 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] "Trust me" LOL RT: @naastygun Apple ad makes Windows 7 a #fail http://bit.ly/iRwnI | Oct 26 02:04 | |
| phIRCe | Title: ericb's place: OOo4Kids 0.5.1 available for download .::. Size~: 16.54 KB | Oct 26 02:04 |
| phIRCe | Title: YouTube - NEW Get a Mac Ad - Broken Promises WINDOWS 7 .::. Size~: 146.8 KB | Oct 26 02:04 |
| trmanco | !quit phIRCe | Oct 26 02:11 |
| *phIRCe has quit ("Exiting! phIRCe - I told you so! .::. http://bitbucket.org/trmanco/phirce/") | Oct 26 02:11 | |
| trmanco | brb | Oct 26 02:11 |
| fewa | !up | Oct 26 02:18 |
| *schestowitz watches http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1MGi12RspA&feature=channel | Oct 26 02:22 | |
| fewa | bring back phIRCe | Oct 26 02:26 |
| trmanco | I'm shutting down my computer for today :| | Oct 26 02:29 |
| trmanco | I need to find a php server with sockets | Oct 26 02:29 |
| trmanco | see you guys later | Oct 26 02:30 |
| schestowitz | Interesting.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxXIFBxbCaQ&feature=PlayList&p=42B8A475AB3E71CF&index=3 | Oct 26 02:38 |
| tessier | www.anonymous-insider.net Who is this? Whose side are they on? I had never seen this site before today. | Oct 26 02:46 |
| tessier | Appear | Oct 26 02:49 |
| tessier | 's to be on SCO's side. Interesting. | Oct 26 02:49 |
| oiaohm | Site records stop at 2003 that is before lots of key tech has entered Linux. | Oct 26 02:51 |
| schestowitz | gn | Oct 26 02:53 |
| oiaohm | Boy if that site in the evidence SCO are sitting on they are one dead sucker. | Oct 26 03:00 |
| oiaohm | BSD file lists are basically same as the ones Novell got accuesed of removing copyright from. | Oct 26 03:00 |
| *TheMadHatter (i=63ee03e6@gateway/web/freenode/x-elrokufbsdxwnjhc) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 26 03:12 | |
| TheMadHatter | Roy, Microsoft is trying for regime change in Iran. | Oct 26 03:12 |
| TheMadHatter | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-borowitz/iran-trying-to-install-mi_b_332769.html | Oct 26 03:13 |
| fewa | TheMadHatter, thats just keyboard spamming | Oct 26 03:18 |
| fewa | to get hits | Oct 26 03:18 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQX4N5mt_Yg&feature=PlayList&p=8C05F28C0C56D273&index=0&playnext=1 | Oct 26 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | crappy quality, good movie (The Stand) | Oct 26 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | everyone dies of the flu | Oct 26 03:57 |
| TheMadHatter | heh. Keyboard spamming. The visions that I see before me... | Oct 26 03:58 |
| TheMadHatter | Whitehouse.gov moved to Drupal | Oct 26 03:59 |
| TheMadHatter | http://buytaert.net/whitehouse-gov-using-drupal | Oct 26 03:59 |
| TheMadHatter | Apple attacks Microsoft in Business | Oct 26 04:08 |
| TheMadHatter | http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/10/24/inside-apples-new-mac-mini-server/ | Oct 26 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.ers.usda.gov/Emphases/rural/gallery/Food_Stamps_2005.gif | Oct 26 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | irony, food stamps benefit the south the most | Oct 26 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | but they vote for Republicans | Oct 26 04:13 |
| TheMadHatter | A lot of people in the south are crazy. | Oct 26 04:16 |
| fewa | Windows: "the only computer virus that you pay to use" | Oct 26 04:16 |
| fewa | LOL | Oct 26 04:16 |
| TheMadHatter | fewa - nice one. | Oct 26 04:16 |
| fewa | TheMadHatter, if only they put GNU/Linux in that chart | Oct 26 04:17 |
| TheMadHatter | heh. You know Microsoft is getting really upset at us? | Oct 26 04:17 |
| fewa | $0, supports unlimited users | Oct 26 04:17 |
| fewa | as vastly better hardware for cheaper | Oct 26 04:17 |
| TheMadHatter | Fewa - yeah, but this is Apple. They march to a different drummer. | Oct 26 04:18 |
| fewa | most of the software in that server is based on open source too | Oct 26 04:18 |
| fewa | Apache | Oct 26 04:18 |
| fewa | for example | Oct 26 04:18 |
| fewa | samba | Oct 26 04:18 |
| fewa | DaemonFC, woah, so heavy in Lousiana | Oct 26 04:19 |
| fewa | yes, many vote against their own interests | Oct 26 04:20 |
| fewa | are warped | Oct 26 04:20 |
| fewa | dont see the connection between their medicare, foodstamps, etc and the government | Oct 26 04:20 |
| TheMadHatter | Anyone who's religious has no choice but to vote Democrat. | Oct 26 04:20 |
| fewa | cause those programs don't have any lobbiests | Oct 26 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | fewa, It' already been proven that food stamps generate more economic activity than "stimulus checks" or tax credits | Oct 26 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | why don't they fund something that actually works? | Oct 26 04:20 |
| fewa | bah, "religious" | Oct 26 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | every dollar spent on food stamps generates another $1.50 of economic activity | Oct 26 04:21 |
| fewa | as I remember Jesus tought to help your neighbor and give to the poor | Oct 26 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | every dollar spent on tax credits generates another 93 cents | Oct 26 04:21 |
| fewa | there is also the story of the hypocrit.... | Oct 26 04:21 |
| fewa | DaemonFC, yep | Oct 26 04:21 |
| fewa | the multiplier | Oct 26 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | fewa, Instead of tax credits, they should expand food stamps to cover people who earn more money | Oct 26 04:22 |
| TheMadHatter | Exactly - the Democrats help the poor, the Republicans don't. QED. | Oct 26 04:22 |
| fewa | every dollar you dont spend on oil or foreign exports generates 4 or so dollars locally | Oct 26 04:22 |
| fewa | *foreign imports | Oct 26 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | or to give more benefits to the people who get the least | Oct 26 04:22 |
| *Balrog_ has quit ("bye") | Oct 26 04:22 | |
| fewa | TheMadHatter, now the Republicans are only representing the top 1% | Oct 26 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | fewa, I've been trying to make sure my money isn't spent here wherever possible | Oct 26 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | the town is already falling apart due largely to Republican policies | Oct 26 04:23 |
| fewa | health care reform all tax payers | Oct 26 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | I want to help it along | Oct 26 04:23 |
| fewa | including big manufacturing companies | Oct 26 04:23 |
| fewa | its not just the poor | Oct 26 04:23 |
| fewa | but also the middle class, etc | Oct 26 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | fewa, The language of high unemployment and high taxation speak to people who would never listen to reason otherwise | Oct 26 04:24 |
| fewa | infact representation of the poor is weak | Oct 26 04:24 |
| fewa | DaemonFC, this country has high taxes, and gets little from them | Oct 26 04:24 |
| fewa | most of the feeral budget goes to the military | Oct 26 04:24 |
| TheMadHatter | representation of the middle class and lower is almost non-existent. | Oct 26 04:24 |
| fewa | i read 57% | Oct 26 04:24 |
| DaemonFC | fewa, Cause it's all dumped on a grossly oversized military | Oct 26 04:24 |
| fewa | there are alot of things that would help middle class | Oct 26 04:25 |
| TheMadHatter | Corporate Welfare Bums. | Oct 26 04:25 |
| fewa | EFCA, single payter health care, fuel efficiency | Oct 26 04:25 |
| TheMadHatter | Military spending is Corporate Wellfare. | Oct 26 04:25 |
| fewa | yes it is TheMadHatter | Oct 26 04:25 |
| fewa | reregulating the Finance sector and convicting the corporate criminals | Oct 26 04:26 |
| fewa | thats the biggest threat to the middle class | Oct 26 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | military spending = dumping trillions on contractors for things that may not even work | Oct 26 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | even if their stuff doesn't work, they get paid | Oct 26 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | even if they miss deadlines, they get paid | Oct 26 04:26 |
| fewa | DaemonFC, they kill people with shoddy work | Oct 26 04:26 |
| fewa | http://i1.democracynow.org/2009/4/2/obamas_blackwater_jeremy_scahill_on_triple | Oct 26 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | fewa, Blackwater/Xe should be cut off | Oct 26 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | instead it's just new name, same friendly service | Oct 26 04:28 |
| fewa | the CEO called himself a "christian crusader tasked with whiping islam of the globe" | Oct 26 04:32 |
| TheMadHatter | you mean deadly service | Oct 26 04:32 |
| fewa | or something to similar effecty | Oct 26 04:32 |
| fewa | http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Xe-Blackwater_warcrimes_case:_complaint%2C_2009 | Oct 26 04:32 |
| TheMadHatter | Gotta love Wikileaks. | Oct 26 04:33 |
| fewa | great site | Oct 26 04:33 |
| fewa | http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090817/scahill | Oct 26 04:34 |
| fewa | "views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe," | Oct 26 04:34 |
| fewa | thats the quote | Oct 26 04:34 |
| TheMadHatter | sick bastard. | Oct 26 04:35 |
| fewa | what was claimed by his employee | Oct 26 04:35 |
| fewa | 2 employees | Oct 26 04:36 |
| TheMadHatter | You heard about the rape law - the new senator from Minnesota introduced it. | Oct 26 04:38 |
| fewa | Al Franken | Oct 26 04:41 |
| fewa | 30 voted against accountability for gang rape | Oct 26 04:42 |
| fewa | all Republicans | Oct 26 04:42 |
| TheMadHatter | Tell you who cares about the little guy or girl. Very Christian. | Oct 26 04:42 |
| fewa | she was gang raped and put in a shipping crate | Oct 26 04:43 |
| fewa | the amendment assured that US citizens could sue under such cercumstances | Oct 26 04:44 |
| fewa | ensure due process | Oct 26 04:44 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] #healthcare #Afghanistan @Dennis_Kucinich interview on @CSPANWJ http://ur1.ca/efnb #hr676 #profit #FDR #newdeal #unemployed #bailout #TARP | Oct 26 04:45 | |
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| DaemonFC | fewa, There shouldn't need to be that law, she should have the right to sue and the crime should be punished | Oct 26 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | an employment contract doesn't make a crime suddenly legal | Oct 26 05:05 |
| fewa | yes, arbitrations clauses should be ruled illegal | Oct 26 05:05 |
| fewa | at least for criminal matters | Oct 26 05:05 |
| fewa | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbitration_clause | Oct 26 05:05 |
| fewa | private courts dont work | Oct 26 05:06 |
| fewa | they are an anethema to even concept of justice | Oct 26 05:06 |
| fewa | *any | Oct 26 05:06 |
| fewa | "I am by no means sure that thus forcing a person to forgo his opportunity to try his legal issues in the courts where, unlike the situation in arbitration, he may have a jury trial and right to appeal, is not a denial of due process of law." | Oct 26 05:07 |
| fewa | from Black's dissent | Oct 26 05:08 |
| fewa | only congress has the right to create courts | Oct 26 05:08 |
| fewa | and state legislatures | Oct 26 05:09 |
| fewa | not private contracts | Oct 26 05:09 |
| fewa | it comes from 20's laissez faire insanity | Oct 26 05:11 |
| fewa | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Arbitration_Act 1925 | Oct 26 05:11 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to go grocery shopping after I take that vaccine | Oct 26 05:36 |
| DaemonFC | enough to last me a week | Oct 26 05:36 |
| DaemonFC | and I won't be leaving my apartment til the thing kicks in | Oct 26 05:42 |
| DaemonFC | seems like the infection rate is doubling every week | Oct 26 05:42 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] RT @EFF CBC's "This Hour Has 22 Minutes" on proposed Canadian DMCA: http://ur1.ca/eft7 #copyright | Oct 26 06:37 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Canadian @CBCTheNational looks at US #healthcare http://ur1.ca/efy6 #hc #hc09 #sickcare | Oct 26 08:29 | |
| schestowitz | fewa: good vid | Oct 26 08:35 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] RT @sickjew Evoking "socialism" during a #healthcare crisis is like trying to spell "inflammatory" when your house is on fire. #p2 #hc | Oct 26 08:48 | |
| oiaohm | http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/article/323692 Another CPU maker wanting in to the game. | Oct 26 08:48 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Most of my class mates received the DOJ from the company. /me didn't ; :| | Oct 26 09:14 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] My take on: Bulgaria May Have to Move to Free(dom) Software http://ping.fm/7C60T | Oct 26 09:24 | |
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| schestowitz | _goblin: day off? | Oct 26 09:35 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Must be Happy… http://ping.fm/6G0PD #sco #lawsuit | Oct 26 09:36 | |
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| _goblin | yeah | Oct 26 09:37 |
| _goblin | back to work on tues | Oct 26 09:37 |
| ThistleWeb | can someone check this post plz http://thistleweb.co.uk/2009/10/26/tescos-pc-buyers-guide/ | Oct 26 09:41 |
| ThistleWeb | for some reason all I get is a redirect to mybookface | Oct 26 09:41 |
| ThistleWeb | which is something done by my host. I'm wondering if others actually see the post or not | Oct 26 09:42 |
| fewa | *assbook | Oct 26 09:43 |
| fewa | <head> | Oct 26 09:43 |
| fewa | <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0;url=http:/ifastnet.com/notify/2.php" /> | Oct 26 09:43 |
| fewa | </head> | Oct 26 09:43 |
| fewa | <html> | Oct 26 09:43 |
| fewa | <body> | Oct 26 09:43 |
| fewa | <script LANGUAGE="JavaScript"> | Oct 26 09:43 |
| fewa | window.location="http://ifastnet.com/notify/2.php"; | Oct 26 09:43 |
| fewa | </script> | Oct 26 09:43 |
| fewa | thats all it is | Oct 26 09:44 |
| fewa | looks like you got hacket | Oct 26 09:44 |
| fewa | *hacked | Oct 26 09:44 |
| ThistleWeb | it only happens on that post though | Oct 26 09:44 |
| fewa | put thins in firefox: view-source:http://thistleweb.co.uk/2009/10/26/tescos-pc-buyers-guide/ | Oct 26 09:44 |
| fewa | im getting it on the home page | Oct 26 09:45 |
| fewa | u've been hijacked by ifastnet.com | Oct 26 09:45 |
| ThistleWeb | wow | Oct 26 09:46 |
| ThistleWeb | so is it a simple case of removing that from the index.php page then? | Oct 26 09:46 |
| fewa | well the index page is empty | Oct 26 09:46 |
| fewa | your content isn't getting served | Oct 26 09:46 |
| fewa | paste in this | Oct 26 09:46 |
| fewa | view-source:http://thistleweb.co.uk/ | Oct 26 09:46 |
| fewa | and see | Oct 26 09:47 |
| fewa | http://pastebin.com/m5c391c16 | Oct 26 09:49 |
| fewa | http://pastebin.com/m651df315 | Oct 26 09:50 |
| fewa | its a 403 | Oct 26 09:50 |
| fewa | the server has been hacked | Oct 26 09:50 |
| ThistleWeb | ahh | Oct 26 09:51 |
| ThistleWeb | so there's nothing I can do about it then, as it's a free shared host | Oct 26 09:51 |
| fewa | cept change your host | Oct 26 09:51 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah, apart from that | Oct 26 09:52 |
| ThistleWeb | I'm looking at the source and cant see how you found this | Oct 26 09:53 |
| fewa | the last paste is a raw tcp/ip session | Oct 26 09:53 |
| fewa | with netcat | Oct 26 09:53 |
| fewa | hosted with http://xlhost.com/ | Oct 26 09:54 |
| ThistleWeb | I did view source with the mybookface iframe loaded and see the scripts | Oct 26 09:54 |
| fewa | no | Oct 26 09:55 |
| fewa | you have to put that in the location bar | Oct 26 09:55 |
| fewa | with the view-source: part | Oct 26 09:55 |
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| schestowitz | what is ifastnet? | Oct 26 09:57 |
| fewa | a web site | Oct 26 09:58 |
| schestowitz | Not the Web host? | Oct 26 09:59 |
| fewa | no | Oct 26 09:59 |
| ThistleWeb | no idea, this is on a shared freehost, so they do things like have real slow ftp access etc, as well as the occasional advert. I just guessed it'd 403 when any non-existent pages are asked for, to their partners | Oct 26 09:59 |
| fewa | its obviously hacked in some way | Oct 26 09:59 |
| ThistleWeb | it just pissed me off that every time I clicked to even preview it, it went to that page | Oct 26 09:59 |
| schestowitz | Which version of WordPres is it? | Oct 26 09:59 |
| ThistleWeb | the latest | Oct 26 09:59 |
| ThistleWeb | .85 | Oct 26 09:59 |
| fewa | you need to switch hosts | Oct 26 09:59 |
| fewa | wp is notorious for security probs | Oct 26 10:00 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah, I'm thinking about that | Oct 26 10:00 |
| ThistleWeb | but WP and all it's plugins are up to date, I do that daily | Oct 26 10:00 |
| ThistleWeb | I am at the mercy of the host though | Oct 26 10:00 |
| fewa | yes, not sure its a wp prob | Oct 26 10:01 |
| fewa | looks like its failing at squid level | Oct 26 10:01 |
| fewa | actually no | Oct 26 10:01 |
| fewa | but anyways | Oct 26 10:01 |
| ThistleWeb | sad to say it's a linux shared host | Oct 26 10:02 |
| schestowitz | fewa: maybe it's a local account issue | Oct 26 10:02 |
| fewa | its a 403 error | Oct 26 10:02 |
| ThistleWeb | but then again, as I said, it's a free host where everything has been squeezed, which may also mean diligence on security | Oct 26 10:02 |
| fewa | so if you fix the 403 it might work | Oct 26 10:03 |
| schestowitz | Change passwords, clean up, put latest WordPress | Oct 26 10:03 |
| fewa | but its still hacked | Oct 26 10:03 |
| schestowitz | Connect to DB | Oct 26 10:03 |
| fewa | it returns that even without the domain | Oct 26 10:03 |
| schestowitz | See if that fixed the problem | Oct 26 10:03 |
| fewa | just the IP | Oct 26 10:03 |
| schestowitz | Make sure you have a DB copy | Oct 26 10:04 |
| fewa | HTTP 0.9: http://pastebin.com/f1a292dc0 | Oct 26 10:04 |
| schestowitz | No need to worry if you have your data | Oct 26 10:04 |
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| ThistleWeb | I did a db backup this morning | Oct 26 10:04 |
| schestowitz | I was once a victim | Oct 26 10:05 |
| schestowitz | Just once, due to the massive phpbb hole | Oct 26 10:05 |
| schestowitz | bad uploader | Oct 26 10:05 |
| schestowitz | I think tens or hundreds of thousand sites were affected at that time alone | Oct 26 10:05 |
| Adus | Maybe an ASP.NET solution would be more secure :p | Oct 26 10:05 |
| ThistleWeb | don't get me wrong, I have a free host, so these things can happen, but I think I may be better looking for another host | Oct 26 10:05 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: ideally open a new user account | Oct 26 10:06 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah asp.net rofl | Oct 26 10:06 |
| schestowitz | Or clean up and restore just core files | Oct 26 10:06 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: probably a CMS hole | Oct 26 10:06 |
| schestowitz | Maybe an update not fast enough | Oct 26 10:06 |
| schestowitz | 2.8.5 was released some days ago | Oct 26 10:06 |
| schestowitz | There was an exploit AFAIK | Oct 26 10:06 |
| fewa | squid could have been set up wrong | Oct 26 10:07 |
| ThistleWeb | the funny thing was, I was leaning towards drupal for ages, then went with wordpress | Oct 26 10:07 |
| fewa | happens alot | Oct 26 10:07 |
| schestowitz | Maybe | Oct 26 10:07 |
| ThistleWeb | I did update quickly, but maybe not before I was hit | Oct 26 10:07 |
| schestowitz | That's why it's worth checking what the hijacking site is about | Oct 26 10:07 |
| schestowitz | I didn't visit it | Oct 26 10:07 |
| schestowitz | [10:07] <fewa> squid could have been set up wrong | Oct 26 10:07 |
| schestowitz | Depends on where it goes | Oct 26 10:07 |
| fewa | schestowitz, you have to visit with with a referrer: header | Oct 26 10:08 |
| fewa | of it doesn't direct you | Oct 26 10:08 |
| ThistleWeb | if that's the case, if I delete my htdocs folder, install a fress wordpress and import the new database would that fix it? | Oct 26 10:08 |
| fewa | its tricky | Oct 26 10:08 |
| fewa | ThistleWeb, try with a bare index.html first | Oct 26 10:08 |
| fewa | or other html file | Oct 26 10:08 |
| Adus | Hmm, time to do some work. | Oct 26 10:09 |
| ThistleWeb | I like change, part of me wants the excuse of swiching, but the other part of me can't be bothered lol | Oct 26 10:09 |
| ThistleWeb | http://thistleweb.co.uk/index.htm <<should be a blank page | Oct 26 10:13 |
| ThistleWeb | I never saw what you managed to with the normal page | Oct 26 10:13 |
| oiaohm | http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/10/23/big-software-has-duped-us-for-decades-part-i/ Hmm some of the chatter that is now appearing. | Oct 26 10:14 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Back home after an awesome #lrl2009 and #oggcamp09 ;) Thanks to all who came to observe, join in, give talks and crew. Great atmosphere. | Oct 26 10:18 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Feeds Hundreds of #Korean Bloggers to Promote #Vista7 http://ping.fm/OM63o | Oct 26 10:22 | |
| schestowitz | fewa: I don't agree quite.. | Oct 26 10:22 |
| schestowitz | Cause it may be something in the PHP files | Oct 26 10:22 |
| schestowitz | Like something injected into it | Oct 26 10:22 |
| fewa | its unknown | Oct 26 10:23 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, I posted that in BN | Oct 26 10:23 |
| fewa | but http://thistleweb.co.uk/index.htm didn | Oct 26 10:23 |
| fewa | *didn't work | Oct 26 10:23 |
| fewa | so its not just wp level anymore | Oct 26 10:23 |
| schestowitz | anyway, ThistleWeb, no reason to panic | Oct 26 10:23 |
| schestowitz | Some people are in the bad position of keeping no backups | Oct 26 10:23 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: another possibility: | Oct 26 10:23 |
| schestowitz | Got any older backups of home dir? | Oct 26 10:24 |
| schestowitz | If so, just change password, make sure nothing's rooted, then restore from backup and update | Oct 26 10:24 |
| fewa | it hasn't been ruled out that its before his stuff | Oct 26 10:25 |
| ThistleWeb | nah I'm not panicing, I'm just thinking that I have to research and fix stuff I didn't think I had to lol | Oct 26 10:25 |
| ThistleWeb | I did do a db export before I updated to the latest wp in case anything went wrong | Oct 26 10:26 |
| ThistleWeb | at first I thought that was the problem, that the update corrupted somewhere | Oct 26 10:26 |
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| ThistleWeb | sorry to turn this into a tech support discussion, I initially only wanted to see if others were seeing what I was, as it was driving me nuts trying to fix it | Oct 26 10:28 |
| ThistleWeb | I haven't been all that impressed with the host anyway, even before this so maybe it's a good idea to use this as the prod to move elsewhere | Oct 26 10:29 |
| ThistleWeb | alrighty, thanks for the help fewa and schestowitz I have things to think about today | Oct 26 10:38 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Vista7 Student Edition Broken on Arrival, All Vista 7 Editions Open to Hijackers Upon Installation http://ping.fm/ShdwV | Oct 26 10:44 | |
| schestowitz | Ok, good luck | Oct 26 10:44 |
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| phIRCe | Hello World! | Oct 26 10:45 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Played with a Palm Pre (WebOS) and an HTC Hero (Android) phone yesterday... Feeling inclined to go HTC Hero over Nokia N900 now.. | Oct 26 10:53 | |
| Diablo-D3 | I wonde r who popey is | Oct 26 10:57 |
| popey | what do you mean "who popey is"? | Oct 26 10:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | ahh, you're in here | Oct 26 10:58 |
| oiaohm | You don't talk that often in here popey | Oct 26 10:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | popey: the hero is kind of out dated | Oct 26 10:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | get your hands on a moto driod | Oct 26 10:59 |
| popey | oiaohm: is that a problem? | Oct 26 10:59 |
| popey | Diablo-D3: as I understand it droid is a brand name for multiple phones, not just one | Oct 26 10:59 |
| oiaohm | Not really just sometimes people forget who you are popey . | Oct 26 10:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | popey: no, the media got it slightly wrong | Oct 26 11:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | popey: the droid may have brothers | Oct 26 11:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | but this droid, the one thats just called droid, refers to just the droid | Oct 26 11:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | the other ones will be called droid something if they retain the name | Oct 26 11:00 |
| popey | that amounts to much the same thing | Oct 26 11:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | well, they most likely wont | Oct 26 11:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | and the media just has their head up their ass | Oct 26 11:01 |
| popey | I'd be surprised if motorola release any droid phones over here anyway | Oct 26 11:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | they already have an international model. | Oct 26 11:02 |
| oiaohm | Do you know any moble phone by motorola that does not have a windows core has a Linux one. | Oct 26 11:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: that goes for any manuf | Oct 26 11:03 |
| oiaohm | So its highly likely motorola will be releasing andriod phones everywhere. | Oct 26 11:03 |
| oiaohm | No it does not Diablo-D3 | Oct 26 11:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean, other than the ones that use weird just | Oct 26 11:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | er, weird shit | Oct 26 11:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | like symbi.. symb... whatever the hell that is, and palm's shit | Oct 26 11:03 |
| oiaohm | symbian | Oct 26 11:04 |
| oiaohm | The non Linux open source OS these days in the phone market. | Oct 26 11:04 |
| oiaohm | palm webos sits on a Linux kernel Diablo-D3 | Oct 26 11:04 |
| popey | Diablo-D3: I didn't say they didn't have an international phone, I said I would be surprised if they launched a motorola droid in this country | Oct 26 11:04 |
| oiaohm | What country. Droid will be with a USA carror by end of next month popey | Oct 26 11:06 |
| popey | UK | Oct 26 11:06 |
| oiaohm | Motorola Dext a android phone is already on sale in the UK. | Oct 26 11:08 |
| oiaohm | Most likely that will be left for a few months of update before droid hits UK | Oct 26 11:09 |
| oiaohm | Really its a bit of a tidy up before android motorola was basically making there own Linux OS for phones. | Oct 26 11:11 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] There is No #Windows7 ; #Vista7 is Actually #Windows 6.1 http://ping.fm/OfywX | Oct 26 11:11 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | damnit roy | Oct 26 11:18 |
| oiaohm | http://lwn.net/images/conf/rtlws11/random-hardware.pdf Welcome to fun of x86 processor design. Basically the performance of running code is basically a nice random number generator. | Oct 26 11:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | you know better | Oct 26 11:18 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NotN: Showing up to work at all "costs British economy £2.13 trillion a year" http://notnews.today.com/?p=701 #coldtech | Oct 26 11:35 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Artwork for the Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Server 9.10 CDs is online now! Great if you want to press your own CDs! http://bit.ly/1IfSGn | Oct 26 11:35 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] What Went Wrong with #Vista7 Launch (and How #GNU #Linux Already Takes Advantage) http://ping.fm/Q7Ccd | Oct 26 11:47 | |
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| oiaohm | Miss the worse problem schestowitz market saturation. | Oct 26 11:56 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Inspired by @andysc to shutdown all power in house circuit by circuit to find out my power usage properly. | Oct 26 12:16 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RD: @rahulsundaram: Whitehouse.gov runs on RHEL and Drupal. http://radar.oreilly.com/2009/10/whitehouse-switch-drupal-opensource.html | Oct 26 12:19 | |
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| oiaohm | When more sites switch it will be something to talk about. | Oct 26 12:28 |
| zer0c00l | yup | Oct 26 12:30 |
| schestowitz | Server is on its knees | Oct 26 12:40 |
| schestowitz | I wish I knew what's hammering on it | Oct 26 12:41 |
| schestowitz | load average: 14.83, 12.70, 8.31 | Oct 26 12:42 |
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| schestowitz | http://izanbardprince.wordpress.com/2009/10/26/goodbye-nvidia-forever-hello-amdati-on-linux-ati-is-a-no-brainer/ | Oct 26 13:12 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft #Layoffs Rumoured (November 4th) After Bad Results http://ping.fm/W5XbU | Oct 26 13:15 | |
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| wallc | Yayy! I'm not banned anymore. lol | Oct 26 13:32 |
| oiaohm | Interesting gimp is not going cmyk instead it going plates based system so it can be configured for the targeted printer. | Oct 26 13:38 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Oops, impulse purchase alert. HTC Hero arriving tomorrow. | Oct 26 13:56 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GoldmanSachs and #Microsoft Top #Obama Funders http://ping.fm/dmhyU | Oct 26 14:02 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IDC , #Gartner , #NPD , and Other Corruptible ‘Analysts’ http://ping.fm/Rynja | Oct 26 14:41 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I pulled my VCR out of the closet and a stack of blank tapes, cause it's just easier to deal with that than trying to use Windows Media Center as a DVR | Oct 26 15:03 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Newegg is being deluged with "reviews" of Windows 7 from people who haven't bought it | Oct 26 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | let the shilling begin | Oct 26 15:06 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] I find it odd that SMPlayer does not recognise .ogv as multimedia, itself being a FOSS app running on Linux | Oct 26 15:53 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #PulpFiction Audio Mix http://ur1.ca/egy7 | Oct 26 15:59 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft ’s #Gadgets and Consoles Still Ridiculed and Avoided http://ping.fm/LTmHN #zune #winmo #xbox | Oct 26 16:10 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] me now listens to the notices of @rms and @c0le; @c0le your presentation on svn in fossconf was cool ; | Oct 26 16:14 | |
| *zer0c00l|dnd thinks @c0le is from collabnet and one of the developers of svn; | Oct 26 16:16 | |
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| schestowitz | zer0c00l: maybe it is | Oct 26 16:40 |
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| zer0c00l | schestowitz: yes | Oct 26 16:41 |
| zer0c00l | schestowitz: Do you follow rms in identi.ca | Oct 26 16:42 |
| zer0c00l | schestowitz: Seems like a bot | Oct 26 16:43 |
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| schestowitz | Hey, wallc | Oct 26 16:56 |
| schestowitz | zer0c00l: yes, mattl runs it | Oct 26 16:57 |
| schestowitz | It echoes rms' political blog | Oct 26 16:57 |
| wallc | Hi! | Oct 26 16:57 |
| zer0c00l | schestowitz: ok | Oct 26 16:57 |
| wallc | I'm not banned anymore :) | Oct 26 16:57 |
| JPerlow | wallc: don't worry, he can fix that | Oct 26 16:58 |
| wallc | I wasn't worried | Oct 26 16:58 |
| zer0c00l | wallc: why you were banned? | Oct 26 16:58 |
| wallc | it was just an accident...i wasn't bad, i promise :) | Oct 26 16:59 |
| zer0c00l | where is Muttex_ ? | Oct 26 16:59 |
| JPerlow | I'm still trying to figure out what "being bad" in this channel means | Oct 26 16:59 |
| schestowitz | wallc: see irc log | Oct 26 17:00 |
| wallc | lol, JPerlow, where's your sense of humor? | Oct 26 17:00 |
| schestowitz | agitation from the web relay | Oct 26 17:00 |
| wallc | I know, I saw it...i was trying to be funny and apparently missed. | Oct 26 17:01 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Released on SoundClick: Free Software Song (Instrumental) by Marti van Lin. Listen now: http://tinyurl.com/yjxdpnj | Oct 26 17:01 | |
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| schestowitz | wallc: rachel must have hid it in the closet :-) | Oct 26 17:01 |
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| wallc | :) | Oct 26 17:01 |
| zer0c00l | Where is our medical guy? | Oct 26 17:01 |
| zer0c00l | lol | Oct 26 17:01 |
| JPerlow | roy it's a bit creepy that you would refer to my wife's name, although arguably I have used it in my writings. | Oct 26 17:02 |
| wallc | JPerlow, you're confusing me. I don't see the "creepy" part at all. You seem to be feeling a need to be unnecessarily hostile for some reason. | Oct 26 17:08 |
| cubezzz | Not sure if this has been posted: | Oct 26 17:09 |
| cubezzz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Tiniest-Linux-system-yet/ | Oct 26 17:09 |
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| schestowitz | <zer0c00l> Where is our medical guy? | Oct 26 17:11 |
| schestowitz | Which one? | Oct 26 17:11 |
| zer0c00l | lol | Oct 26 17:11 |
| zer0c00l | schestowitz: I was refering to DaemonFC | Oct 26 17:12 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft / #Icahn ’s #Coup Against #Yahoo and #Yang is Done http://ping.fm/wEcJ0 | Oct 26 17:12 | |
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| schestowitz | zer0c00l: hehe. | Oct 26 17:12 |
| schestowitz | You mean morbidly ill, not medical :-p | Oct 26 17:12 |
| zer0c00l | lol | Oct 26 17:12 |
| schestowitz | He's OK now.. | Oct 26 17:12 |
| zer0c00l | schestowitz: ok | Oct 26 17:12 |
| cubezzz | we can rebuild him, we have the technology | Oct 26 17:13 |
| zer0c00l | schestowitz: he is a Nurse assistant; | Oct 26 17:13 |
| zer0c00l | i guess so | Oct 26 17:13 |
| zer0c00l | he did some CNA and HHA certification | Oct 26 17:13 |
| schestowitz | JPerlow: http://offthebroiler.wordpress.com/2008/02/18/a-weight-loss-progress-report-and-top-10-changes/ | Oct 26 17:13 |
| zer0c00l | he gave a big lecture on that; | Oct 26 17:13 |
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| schestowitz | "Take it away, Rachel" | Oct 26 17:14 |
| schestowitz | Shouldn't you be happy that I'm subscribed to your stuff? :-) | Oct 26 17:14 |
| schestowitz | zer0c00l: I don't think he is | Oct 26 17:14 |
| schestowitz | *sigh* So many posts still to do today | Oct 26 17:15 |
| schestowitz | 13 so far | Oct 26 17:15 |
| zer0c00l | schestowitz: oh | Oct 26 17:15 |
| zer0c00l | schestowitz: But he told me a big story, his adventures and all; lol | Oct 26 17:16 |
| JPerlow | schestowitz: I'm glad you're enjoying my personal blog | Oct 26 17:17 |
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| schestowitz | zer0c00l: he works in a store, IIRC | Oct 26 17:20 |
| schestowitz | He pondered working for the Microsoft Store in Indiana | Oct 26 17:20 |
| schestowitz | JPerlow: I'm not your enemy, we're both sharing the same goals | Oct 26 17:20 |
| schestowitz | It's funny how Asay gets insulted if I dare to disagree with him | Oct 26 17:21 |
| wallc | Well Monday morning chaos has decended here, must get back to work. bye for now :) | Oct 26 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Like, he'd send an E-mail if he's offended that I disagree in 20% of the case even if in 80% of the case I link to him with consent | Oct 26 17:21 |
| schestowitz | I don't get it... | Oct 26 17:21 |
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| schestowitz | SOme people just can't stand being incorrect or having opposite views, even if they are expressed politely | Oct 26 17:22 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Top tip: Check first before putting a CD in a drive that there isn't already one in there. The noise can be very alarming! | Oct 26 18:02 | |
| JPerlow | schestowitz: I dont like to think of people as enemies, but to say we have the same goals would be incorrect | Oct 26 18:03 |
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| cubezzz | allow me to illustrate the difference: | Oct 26 18:22 |
| cubezzz | http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oscon2002/jc_photos4.html | Oct 26 18:22 |
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| cubezzz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_of_the_Amazon_Queen | Oct 26 18:39 |
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| cubezzz | installable right in Fedora 11 too | Oct 26 18:39 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] A look at Chakra and my opinions on KDE 4.3.1 http://tinyurl.com/yhudf9f #linux #foss #distro #microsoft #windows #vista #xp | Oct 26 18:53 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Has #Lobbyists and #Cronies Around #EuropeanCommission , Working to Shatter #MySQL http://ping.fm/e7wmZ | Oct 26 18:59 | |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: classic | Oct 26 19:09 |
| schestowitz | To ORLY, Freedom means something different | Oct 26 19:09 |
| schestowitz | Freedom is a very loose word | Oct 26 19:10 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: glad you like the K! | Oct 26 19:13 |
| fewa | schestowitz, freedom is defined by those who pay | Oct 26 19:17 |
| fewa | such as Microsoft and Intel | Oct 26 19:18 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why #Adobe Does Not Like #Freedom Software http://ping.fm/AMB8S | Oct 26 19:21 | |
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| schestowitz | fewa: I know. | Oct 26 19:22 |
| schestowitz | for the 'masses' anyway | Oct 26 19:22 |
| schestowitz | Glamour, WSJ, CNN ("we spread freedom"), etc,. | Oct 26 19:22 |
| fewa | thats what makes ORLY's definition | Oct 26 19:22 |
| schestowitz | Heh. I've had 6 cups of tea so far today | Oct 26 19:23 |
| schestowitz | 16 posts | Oct 26 19:23 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] mikeeusa being kicked off sourceforge was just the latest in a long line http://bit.ly/iPHmo HT @jnievele | Oct 26 19:26 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Check this video out -- NEW Get a Mac Ad - Broken Promises WINDOWS 7 http://bit.ly/iRwnI | Oct 26 19:28 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Seen http://xkcd.com/ today? Be sure to view source. :-D | Oct 26 19:39 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "White Stripes - Blue Orchid" ♫ http://blip.fm/~ffqz1 | Oct 26 19:39 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] More mikeeusa http://is.gd/4CXkM reply: "Now you're just being an obnoxious twat. Go away." | Oct 26 19:42 | |
| _goblin | schestowitz: Sorry about that, afk...yeah I did like it.... | Oct 26 19:43 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "The White Stripes - 7 Nation Army" ♫ http://blip.fm/~ffrap | Oct 26 19:44 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Listening to "Hard Rock Hallelujah" my youngest's favorite...a one year old rocker! http://bit.ly/snEsO | Oct 26 19:49 | |
| phIRCe | Title: YouTube - Lordi - Hardrock Hallelujah .::. Size~: 127.7 KB | Oct 26 19:49 |
| cubezzz | still getting used to Fedora 11 | Oct 26 19:49 |
| cubezzz | not even sure what video driver it's using | Oct 26 19:50 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Fault Lines - 100 Days of Resistance @AJEnglish #Honduras http://ur1.ca/ehho | Oct 26 19:52 | |
| phIRCe | Title: YouTube - Fault Lines - 100 Days of Resistance - 15 Oct 09- Part 1 .::. Size~: 128.68 KB | Oct 26 19:52 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] see, the reason the record industry is so upset with ISPs is that they think this is actually how it works http://imgur.com/prFIq | Oct 26 19:53 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Fault Lines - 100 Days of Resistance @AJEnglish #Honduras http://ur1.ca/ehho @democracynow interview http://ur1.ca/ehi8 (54:05) | Oct 26 19:57 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #SoftwarePatents Are Killing #ZFS http://ping.fm/GWjZd #sun #swpat #apple | Oct 26 20:01 | |
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| schestowitz | OK, done with posts form today | Oct 26 20:01 |
| schestowitz | *For | Oct 26 20:01 |
| schestowitz | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/10/23/197214/Sparc-Sends-SparkFun-Electronics-CampD-Letter | Oct 26 20:04 |
| schestowitz | Ha! | Oct 26 20:05 |
| phIRCe | Title: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | Sparc Sends SparkFun Electronics C&D Letter .::. Size~: 156.23 KB | Oct 26 20:05 |
| schestowitz | KL Gates | Oct 26 20:05 |
| schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/20091022/1042566638.shtml | Oct 26 20:07 |
| phIRCe | Title: Google Taken To Court To Explain Why It Shut Down Someone's Gmail Over Missent Email | Techdirt .::. Size~: 31.54 KB | Oct 26 20:07 |
| schestowitz | Hehe. | Oct 26 20:07 |
| schestowitz | That's why I'd never use GMail | Oct 26 20:07 |
| fewa | nice | Oct 26 20:08 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Forgot how good Fintroll are....just found one of their albums on my shelf. #metal | Oct 26 20:09 | |
| fewa | shows what your communications should happen on your namespace | Oct 26 20:09 |
| schestowitz | or ISP/host | Oct 26 20:14 |
| schestowitz | fewa: see #boycottnovell-social | Oct 26 20:16 |
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| schestowitz | Pasted too much in there | Oct 26 20:18 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Hackers target the Guardian's jobs website - 500,000 jobseekers compromised < http://ping.fm/I37w8 > DB dangers. | Oct 26 20:20 | |
| cubezzz | black hats are attacking every server | Oct 26 20:20 |
| schestowitz | China is set to flood the world with chips http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1559697/china-set-flood-world-chips | Oct 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz | I look forward to it ! | Oct 26 20:21 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] White house elects Free software http://ping.fm/Oi6qn | Oct 26 20:22 | |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: yeah, well... they can sell the jobs DB | Oct 26 20:22 |
| schestowitz | Sell away people's privacy | Oct 26 20:22 |
| schestowitz | Like important people, for dirt | Oct 26 20:22 |
| schestowitz | Been done before here in the UK | Oct 26 20:22 |
| schestowitz | You may as well assume that when submitting information to anyone else (or putting it on a Windows box) it's already public, to a degree | Oct 26 20:23 |
| schestowitz | You healthcare record too | Oct 26 20:23 |
| schestowitz | The NHS uses Windows on the host side | Oct 26 20:23 |
| schestowitz | Maybe SUN at the back | Oct 26 20:23 |
| cubezzz | strange how the basic fedora 11 install doesn't even put system-config-display on | Oct 26 20:24 |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, yeah | Oct 26 20:24 |
| cubezzz | ls | Oct 26 20:24 |
| cubezzz | oops :) | Oct 26 20:24 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] My first-ever Web site died today, along with Geocities. 'Thanks', Icahn. http://ping.fm/7oHDN | Oct 26 20:25 | |
| cubezzz | my video on this other box seems kind of slow | Oct 26 20:25 |
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| schestowitz | Web Archive is all that's left :-( *sob* | Oct 26 20:25 |
| cubezzz | my first ever web site (circa 1996) is still up | Oct 26 20:26 |
| schestowitz | where? | Oct 26 20:26 |
| cubezzz | cubeman.org | Oct 26 20:26 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @davidgerard I suppose you were mocking this one: http://ping.fm/x7ne6 | Oct 26 20:28 | |
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| schestowitz | "Est: Jan 22, 1996" | Oct 26 20:28 |
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| schestowitz | BN gets a lot of traffic today | Oct 26 20:29 |
| schestowitz | 4,400 unique IPs in half a day | Oct 26 20:30 |
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| schestowitz | No front pages or anything unusual | Oct 26 20:30 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Music recommendation to fans of metal/classical/opera: http://bit.ly/7EXz7 | Oct 26 20:32 | |
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| schestowitz | http://shibuvarkala.blogspot.com/2009/10/ubuntu-910-karmic-koala-what-is-new-in.html | Oct 26 20:32 |
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| schestowitz | This photo looks so wrong | Oct 26 20:32 |
| cubezzz | funny poll | Oct 26 20:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/26/geocities_closes/ | Oct 26 20:34 |
| phIRCe | Title: GeoCities gets faceful of wrecking ball • The Register .::. Size~: 19.53 KB | Oct 26 20:34 |
| schestowitz | Just comes to show: | Oct 26 20:34 |
| cubezzz | "WIll you be buying windows 7" -> "Hell no I'm using OS/2" | Oct 26 20:34 |
| schestowitz | 1) don't use 'cloud' | Oct 26 20:34 |
| schestowitz | 2) nothing lives forever | Oct 26 20:35 |
| schestowitz | 3) takeovers by giant mean apathy to spiritful projects | Oct 26 20:35 |
| schestowitz | Geocities was about building the Web | Oct 26 20:35 |
| schestowitz | Yahoo! treated it like meat market for ads | Oct 26 20:35 |
| cubezzz | yes | Oct 26 20:35 |
| cubezzz | that's why I didn't like it | Oct 26 20:35 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: OS/2 has no viruses | Oct 26 20:35 |
| cubezzz | ok good :) | Oct 26 20:36 |
| JPerlow | I used to use OS/2. | Oct 26 20:36 |
| *schestowitz WOnders what might happen with con-flickr :-) | Oct 26 20:36 | |
| schestowitz | JPerlow: you were a leading advocate of it | Oct 26 20:36 |
| JPerlow | for several years, yes | Oct 26 20:36 |
| schestowitz | http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en-GB&ie=UTF-8&q=perlow&qt_s=Search+Groups | Oct 26 20:37 |
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| schestowitz | " | Oct 26 20:37 |
| schestowitz | BACKGROUND: Jason Perlow, AKA TeamWeb, | Oct 26 20:37 |
| schestowitz | AKA Canon_USA | Oct 26 20:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 26 20:37 |
| schestowitz | True? | Oct 26 20:37 |
| JPerlow | Canon_USA I remember using | Oct 26 20:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 26 20:38 |
| schestowitz | BACKGROUND: | Oct 26 20:38 |
| schestowitz | Jason Perlow, A.K.A. TeamWeb, A.K.A. Canon_USA, recently was asked by RedNivek to | Oct 26 20:38 |
| schestowitz | refrain from discussing Windows NT in the IRC #os/2 channel. As a result, Mr Perlow | Oct 26 20:38 |
| schestowitz | threatened to get RedNivek fired from IBM, even though Mr RedNivek was not and never | Oct 26 20:38 |
| schestowitz | has promoted himself as representing IBM while attempting to enjoy his freetime on IRC. | Oct 26 20:38 |
| schestowitz | The following is a transcript of the follow-up to the original conversation. | Oct 26 20:38 |
| schestowitz | The purpose of this document is to exemplify the poor relations developed by Mr Perlow | Oct 26 20:38 |
| schestowitz | on the IRC when he consistently pushes Windows NT in the #os/2 channel, drops key IBM | Oct 26 20:38 |
| schestowitz | employee names, and threatens other users with inappropriate actions when they disagree | Oct 26 20:38 |
| schestowitz | with him. | Oct 26 20:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 26 20:38 |
| schestowitz | Hehe. | Oct 26 20:38 |
| schestowitz | Funny cause you now work for Big Blue | Oct 26 20:38 |
| _goblin | thats research! | Oct 26 20:39 |
| JPerlow | I never found out who that guy was. | Oct 26 20:39 |
| cubezzz | I have to admit I never got into OS/2 | Oct 26 20:39 |
| *schestowitz looks http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.os2.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/4435e0fc5ef42bf1/b54600340db3f0da?hl=en-GB&ie=UTF-8&q=perlow#b54600340db3f0da | Oct 26 20:40 | |
| cubezzz | The Unix design seems to be the way things are going now | Oct 26 20:40 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: I never used OS/2 | Oct 26 20:40 |
| schestowitz | I'm too young for it perhap[s | Oct 26 20:40 |
| cubezzz | we had OS/2 Warp at the store for a while | Oct 26 20:40 |
| schestowitz | I was using one platform mostly | Oct 26 20:40 |
| schestowitz | DOS, then win 3.1 | Oct 26 20:40 |
| cubezzz | booo :) | Oct 26 20:40 |
| _goblin | whats this supposed to mean?: | Oct 26 20:40 |
| _goblin | computerworld .@jperlow Hey, it was me who "knocked" your popcorn and special sauce. If you're makin' it, I'm tryin' it. | Oct 26 20:41 |
| _goblin | 1 minute ago from TweetDeck | Oct 26 20:41 |
| _goblin | is this a joke I am not getting? | Oct 26 20:41 |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, at least try Amiga or Unix System V :) | Oct 26 20:41 |
| JPerlow | I said I liked soy sauce and sesame oil on popcorn. | Oct 26 20:41 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Oct 26 20:41 |
| schestowitz | Companies become more sociable | Oct 26 20:41 |
| _goblin | ah...just coincidental that you were talking here when that popped up. | Oct 26 20:41 |
| _goblin | and Amiga....my first real love. | Oct 26 20:42 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft splatters Turfs all ovr Twitter | Oct 26 20:42 |
| schestowitz | Including aggressive ones | Oct 26 20:42 |
| cubezzz | Orville Redenbacher ftw | Oct 26 20:42 |
| _goblin | yep....remember optionetics? | Oct 26 20:42 |
| schestowitz | And it's easy to keep track of their wrongdoing | Oct 26 20:42 |
| schestowitz | They don't think people watch their accounts | Oct 26 20:42 |
| schestowitz | Or their Wikipedia edits | Oct 26 20:42 |
| _goblin | the best ad for NOT getting WIndows 7 can be found at #microsofthelps | Oct 26 20:42 |
| cubezzz | Amiga croaked just before the Net took off too | Oct 26 20:43 |
| _goblin | the tweets with problems come in thick and fast. | Oct 26 20:43 |
| *schestowitz poked @microsofthelps yesterday | Oct 26 20:43 | |
| _goblin | I asked them another question too. | Oct 26 20:43 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: go hunting for blog reviews of vista 7 | Oct 26 20:43 |
| _goblin | @MicrosoftHelps Please help, Ive been throwing chairs around the office, can Mr Ballmer recommend a good anger management course? | Oct 26 20:43 |
| _goblin | 8:00 PM Oct 25th from web | Oct 26 20:43 |
| cubezzz | the Stallman Lesson: no hardware lasts forever | Oct 26 20:43 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure there are some angry buyers | Oct 26 20:43 |
| schestowitz | But I haven't looked around | Oct 26 20:43 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: like you found those videos of Vista 7 jams | Oct 26 20:44 |
| cubezzz | hahaha | Oct 26 20:44 |
| cubezzz | _goblin :) | Oct 26 20:44 |
| _goblin | yeah Ive seen some of them.....ive got to get around to doing an article on them, but where to start? there is such a diverse range of problems.... | Oct 26 20:44 |
| cubezzz | are you guys trolling microsoft channels? :) | Oct 26 20:44 |
| _goblin | Ive also twitted on #itshouldbeillegal | Oct 26 20:44 |
| _goblin | @uklinux you got in with that before me!!! #itshouldbeillegal to allow Ballmer on TV (or near chairs and Iphones) | Oct 26 20:45 |
| _goblin | 37 minutes ago from web in reply to uklinux | Oct 26 20:45 |
| _goblin | the new trending topic is #itshouldbeillegal | Oct 26 20:45 |
| schestowitz | Red discovers old news: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/26/dell_linux_windows_ubuntu/ | Oct 26 20:46 |
| phIRCe | Title: Dell unveils exclusive Microsoft-branded Ubuntu OS • The Register .::. Size~: 21.99 KB | Oct 26 20:46 |
| cubezzz | you don't see Ballmer on TV much actually | Oct 26 20:46 |
| cubezzz | mostly on youtube | Oct 26 20:46 |
| schestowitz | See http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/5182275677 | Oct 26 20:46 |
| phIRCe | Title: Twitter / Roy Schestowitz: @MicrosoftHelps Microsoft ... .::. Size~: 9.7 KB | Oct 26 20:46 |
| schestowitz | Twittr has a partnership with Microsoft now | Oct 26 20:47 |
| _goblin | cubezzz: true but even the few times he is should be banned....Remember his early Windows ads? Sums up Ballmer perfectly. | Oct 26 20:47 |
| schestowitz | So don't expect them to clean up the AstroTurf junk | Oct 26 20:47 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: that was a joke | Oct 26 20:47 |
| schestowitz | For internal morale thing | Oct 26 20:48 |
| schestowitz | There's one of Hovsepian.. | Oct 26 20:48 |
| schestowitz | I can't find it now. Damn. | Oct 26 20:50 |
| schestowitz | Here it goes. "Microsoft has been flooded with complaints from hundreds of disgruntled university bods who have struggled to download or successfully install Windows 7 files supplied by Digital River." | Oct 26 20:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/26/microsoft_windows_7_digital_river_headache/ | Oct 26 20:50 |
| phIRCe | Title: Digital River makes total hash of Windows 7 upgrade offer • The Register .::. Size~: 24.12 KB | Oct 26 20:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/26/cloning_scientist_sentence/ | Oct 26 20:51 |
| phIRCe | Title: Disgraced Korean cloning scientist given suspended sentence • The Register .::. Size~: 21.29 KB | Oct 26 20:51 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/26/guardian_jobs_data/ | Oct 26 20:54 |
| phIRCe | Title: Guardian loses half a million CVs • The Register .::. Size~: 21.42 KB | Oct 26 20:54 |
| schestowitz | BTW, VIsta 7 is almost totally off the headline already | Oct 26 20:54 |
| schestowitz | It was a 2-day hurrah | Oct 26 20:54 |
| schestowitz | They'll have to come up with publicity stunts to remind people it exists | Oct 26 20:55 |
| schestowitz | Even bad publicity like embarrassing videos would do | Oct 26 20:55 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Your weekend tube service http://www.b3ta.com/board/9765580 | Oct 26 20:56 | |
| phIRCe | Title: b3ta.com board .::. Size~: 2.62 KB | Oct 26 20:56 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/25/apple_drops_zfs/ | Oct 26 20:57 |
| phIRCe | Title: Apple dumps Sun's ZFS • The Register .::. Size~: 23.4 KB | Oct 26 20:57 |
| schestowitz | "Apple is looking for a file system engineer, by the way. The successful applicant will "work on state-of-the-art file system technologies for Mac OS X."" | Oct 26 20:58 |
| schestowitz | Still chasing Linux | Oct 26 20:58 |
| schestowitz | Not for the sugar coating, the mechanics | Oct 26 20:58 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.computerworld.com/14953/ibm_canonical_to_launch_ubuntu_desktop_for_business | Oct 26 20:59 |
| phIRCe | Title: IBM & Canonical to launch Ubuntu desktop for business - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 140 KB | Oct 26 20:59 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Sun's Phipps seems worried that mysql delays their deal http://ping.fm/ISDlv would be better had Sun now bought mysql | Oct 26 21:02 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Weak Points of Sun Deal Come Out in Europe - DealBook Blog - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 61.03 KB | Oct 26 21:02 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Sun's Phipps seems worried that mysql delays their deal http://ping.fm/neISa would be better had Sun NOT bought mysql | Oct 26 21:04 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Weak Points of Sun Deal Come Out in Europe - DealBook Blog - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 61.03 KB | Oct 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz | fewa: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/10/19/health-care-critic-advises-divide-and-conquer-strategy/ | Oct 26 21:05 |
| phIRCe | Title: CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time - Blogs from CNN.com .::. Size~: 114 KB | Oct 26 21:05 |
| MinceR | crApple looking for an engineer? finally they realize it's something they lack? :> | Oct 26 21:06 |
| schestowitz | fewa: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-health-insure26-2009oct26,0,757790.story | Oct 26 21:06 |
| phIRCe | Title: Insurers poised to reap benefits from healthcare overhaul -- latimes.com .::. Size~: 108.2 KB | Oct 26 21:06 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: not true | Oct 26 21:07 |
| schestowitz | Apple 'has' engineers | Oct 26 21:07 |
| schestowitz | BSD developers | Oct 26 21:07 |
| schestowitz | They write the code | Oct 26 21:07 |
| schestowitz | Apple wraps it up with walls | Oct 26 21:07 |
| schestowitz | It like a tinge of Samba, too | Oct 26 21:07 |
| schestowitz | And KDE (KHTML) | Oct 26 21:07 |
| schestowitz | That it is forced to give back to | Oct 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz | That darn 'viral' LGPL thing | Oct 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.prwatch.org/node/8654 "With the newspapers full of talk about “zombie” banks and parasitic “vampire squid” financial institutions, it was particularly fitting that the “Showdown in Chicago” started with a ghoulish group of zombies rocking out to Michael Jackson's “Thriller.” Chicago's own South Shore Drill Team opened the three days of banks protests with a bang and had the crowd of thousands of activists | Oct 26 21:09 |
| schestowitz | dancing in no time." | Oct 26 21:09 |
| phIRCe | Title: LIVE! From the Big Showdown in Chicago | Center for Media and Democracy .::. Size~: 27.88 KB | Oct 26 21:09 |
| schestowitz | http://newnetworks.com/fundingattverizon.htm | Oct 26 21:10 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #globalwarming leads to hunger, already http://ping.fm/DJo5x | Oct 26 21:12 | |
| schestowitz | < http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/18/peru-monterrico-metals-mining-protest >British mining company faces damages claim after allegations of torture in Peru | Oct 26 21:13 |
| schestowitz | "Disinformation PR campaigns have convinced 20% of Americans to doubt the danger of global warming in the past two years." | Oct 26 21:15 |
| schestowitz | [via RMS] | Oct 26 21:15 |
| schestowitz | These criminals.. | Oct 26 21:15 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "How the No Child Left Behind Act allowed military recruiters to collect info on millions of unsuspecting teens." http://ping.fm/WTtxE | Oct 26 21:19 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] In China, protesters (democracy) led to execution http://ping.fm/ZaDDY | Oct 26 21:19 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Se alguem conseguir espantar uma mosca do ecra com a ponta do rato... és o maior entao... | Oct 26 21:19 | |
| phIRCe | Title: A Few Good Kids? | Mother Jones .::. Size~: 187.57 KB | Oct 26 21:19 |
| schestowitz | Hossein Derakhshan’s father writes Ayatollah Larijani, head of Iran’s Judiciary < http://cyrusfarivar.com/blog/?p=2661 > | Oct 26 21:19 |
| phIRCe | Title: Hossein Derakhshans father writes Ayatollah Larijani, head of Irans Judiciary | cyrusfarivar.com .::. Size~: 25.03 KB | Oct 26 21:19 |
| schestowitz | Censorship - 1 year in prison, no trial | Oct 26 21:22 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Ive had an appology from a blogger who lied about me! Shame he has a readerbase of <10. #fail #windows #microsoft #xp #vista | Oct 26 21:24 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] One of the most informative & interesting sites on the net which I'm happy to champion: http://tinyurl.com/m4jqhe #linux #foss | Oct 26 21:28 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Main Page - Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 27.65 KB | Oct 26 21:28 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz indeed. press release journalism . | Oct 26 21:29 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Even Hitler is mad at Google for C&D order on Cyanogen Android" < http://ping.fm/kAW26 > | Oct 26 21:30 | |
| phIRCe | Title: YouTube - Even Hitler is mad at Google for C&D order on Cyanogen Android .::. Size~: 132.41 KB | Oct 26 21:30 |
| trmanco | http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/23/windows-7-whopper-claims-its-first-victim-video/ | Oct 26 21:32 |
| trmanco | lol | Oct 26 21:32 |
| phIRCe | Title: Windows 7 Whopper claims its first victim (video) .::. Size~: 134.57 KB | Oct 26 21:32 |
| trmanco | junk food | Oct 26 21:32 |
| schestowitz | I'm waiting for the first one to drop dead | Oct 26 21:33 |
| schestowitz | As in real victim | Oct 26 21:33 |
| schestowitz | Death by Vista7burger | Oct 26 21:33 |
| trmanco | lol | Oct 26 21:34 |
| *PetoKraus has quit ("Leaving") | Oct 26 21:39 | |
| schestowitz | http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/news.html "Best wishes to everyone for a happy 2009, aka MMIX! " | Oct 26 21:39 |
| phIRCe | Title: OpenDNS .::. Size~: 2.02 KB | Oct 26 21:39 |
| schestowitz | It would be nice if he started a blog | Oct 26 21:39 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right. Thats it. Ive given up on #flashforward probably would have been a great for TV movie. As a series? I'm bored already. | Oct 26 21:41 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "White Stripes - Blue Orchid" ♫ http://blip.fm/~ffzst | Oct 26 21:55 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 28.31 KB | Oct 26 21:55 |
| tessier | How are things in BN land? | Oct 26 21:55 |
| tessier | Knuth is my homeboy. | Oct 26 21:55 |
| schestowitz | !google knuth t-shirt | Oct 26 21:56 |
| phIRCe | [1] - Knuth is my homeboy t-shirt - Geekz Shop | http://geekz.co.uk/shop/store/show/knuth-tshirt | Oct 26 21:56 |
| phIRCe | [2] - Coding Horror: The Enduring Art of Computer Programming | http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001034.html | Oct 26 21:56 |
| phIRCe | [3] - Untitled-1, KNUTH T Shirts from Zazzle.com | http://www.zazzle.com/untitled_1_knuth_tshirt-235497277142529833 | Oct 26 21:56 |
| phIRCe | [4] - "Premature optimization is the root of all evil - Donald Knuth" T ... | http://www.redbubble.com/people/suranyami/t-shirts/2547056-2-premature-optimization-is-the-root-of-all-evil-donald-knuth | Oct 26 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Reuters reminds us that, “Like Windows 7, Vista got good reviews too: As Microsoft Corp’s Windows 7 release approaches, early reviews are generally positive. But so were reviews for Windows Vista just before its launch…. Vista got high marks before its release as well, with writers back then praising a new visual design — and glossing over quirks that later became common gripes. | Oct 26 21:58 |
| schestowitz | http://www.hungry-hackers.com/2009/10/windows-seven-round-up-a-must-read-for-all-buyers.html | Oct 26 21:58 |
| phIRCe | Title: Windows 7 Roundup: A Must Read for All Buyers | Hacking Truths .::. Size~: 80.53 KB | Oct 26 21:58 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Martin Roth & Alex Bartlett - Off The World (Gareth Emery rmx)" ♫ http://blip.fm/~fg03k | Oct 26 22:00 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 28.31 KB | Oct 26 22:00 |
| *tessier just skimmed through http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/reviews/2009/10/windows-7-the-review.ars | Oct 26 22:00 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Hasta la Vista, baby: Ars reviews Windows 7 - Ars Technica .::. Size~: 50.83 KB | Oct 26 22:01 |
| tessier | Nothing particularly interesting, really | Oct 26 22:01 |
| schestowitz | tessier: whitehose moved to drupal | Oct 26 22:03 |
| schestowitz | *house | Oct 26 22:03 |
| schestowitz | tessier: give it time (the reviews) | Oct 26 22:04 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Snoop Dogg - Gangsta Luv (Ft. The Dream) (Dirty) EXCLUSIVE 2009 DOWNLOAD LINK" ♫ http://blip.fm/~fg0eo | Oct 26 22:04 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 28.31 KB | Oct 26 22:04 |
| schestowitz | tessier: the experts reviewed it | Oct 26 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Now it's Joe Average's turn | Oct 26 22:04 |
| schestowitz | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_web_site | Oct 26 22:05 |
| phIRCe | Title: White House opens Web site programming to public - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 99.59 KB | Oct 26 22:05 |
| schestowitz | Drupal just got a great business case/case study | Oct 26 22:06 |
| tessier | schestowitz: Yeah, I saw that. Very cool. | Oct 26 22:08 |
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| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to [H]omer | Oct 26 22:08 | |
| tessier | I'm not a big fan of PHP/Drupal but it's better than ASP or something. | Oct 26 22:08 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Mark'Oh - United (official video)" ♫ http://blip.fm/~fg0ou | Oct 26 22:09 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 28.31 KB | Oct 26 22:09 |
| schestowitz | http://linuxcrunch.com/content/drupal-flourishing-within-us-government | Oct 26 22:11 |
| phIRCe | Title: Drupal is flourishing within the U.S. government | We love Linux ! .::. Size~: 22.13 KB | Oct 26 22:11 |
| schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/10/open-source | Oct 26 22:14 |
| phIRCe | Title: Nations First Open Source Election Software Released | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 77.33 KB | Oct 26 22:14 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Nixon - Be with you" ♫ http://blip.fm/~fg13c | Oct 26 22:15 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 28.31 KB | Oct 26 22:15 |
| *wallc has quit ("Page closed") | Oct 26 22:16 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[d235j] RT @GuyKawasaki: Determination. http://om.ly/TVHe | Oct 26 22:19 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Determination. - Holy Kaw! .::. Size~: 25.69 KB | Oct 26 22:19 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Snoop Dogg - Gangsta Luv (Ft. The Dream) (Dirty) EXCLUSIVE 2009 DOWNLOAD LINK" ♫ http://blip.fm/~fg1kn | Oct 26 22:22 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 28.31 KB | Oct 26 22:22 |
| *schestowitz listens to http://blip.fm/profile/trmanco/blip/25942775/Snoop_Dogg-Gangsta_Luv_Ft_The_Dream_Dirty_EXCLUSIVE_2009_DOWNLOAD_LINK | Oct 26 22:24 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Blip.fm | trmanco | Snoop Dogg – Gangsta Luv (Ft. The Dream) (Dirty) EXCLUSIVE 2009 DOWNLOAD LINK .::. Size~: 62.18 KB | Oct 26 22:24 |
| trmanco | lol | Oct 26 22:25 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=fedora_r600_3d&num=1 | Oct 26 22:25 |
| trmanco | schestowitz: you like it? | Oct 26 22:25 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: it's OK, but Snoop has better tracks | Oct 26 22:25 |
| trmanco | yeah | Oct 26 22:25 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/autopia/2009/10/tokyo-auto-show/ | Oct 26 22:31 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz: name a title | Oct 26 22:34 |
| trmanco | I can't find any good ones | Oct 26 22:34 |
| schestowitz | wallc: Microsoft does not obey EU laws | Oct 26 22:34 |
| schestowitz | It keeps IE in Windows | Oct 26 22:34 |
| schestowitz | No ballot | Oct 26 22:34 |
| wallc | no surprise there | Oct 26 22:34 |
| schestowitz | It might help if we post this smoking gun. http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php/Microsoft:_don%27t_mention_putting_the_browser_in_the_OS | Oct 26 22:34 |
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| schestowitz | BillG mentions Eric Schmidt | Oct 26 22:35 |
| wallc | got it... :) | Oct 26 22:35 |
| schestowitz | "It would HELP ME IMMENSELY to have a survey showing that 90% of developers believe that putting the browser into the OS makes sense .. Ideally we would have a survey like this done before I appear at the Senate on March 3rd. " | Oct 26 22:35 |
| schestowitz | --Billg | Oct 26 22:35 |
| schestowitz | That's how Microsoft does surveys | Oct 26 22:35 |
| schestowitz | Start with the outcome | Oct 26 22:35 |
| schestowitz | Not the hypothesis | Oct 26 22:35 |
| schestowitz | Then do push-polling | Oct 26 22:35 |
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| wallc | (reading) | Oct 26 22:36 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Snoop Dogg Can't Say Goodbye Featuring Charlie Wilson" ♫ http://blip.fm/~fg2mk | Oct 26 22:37 | |
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| schestowitz | http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091025/wl_asia_afp/technologyenergysolarenvironmentautoaustralia_20091025063426 | Oct 26 22:39 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] DW/LJ: In the city. http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/16610.html http://reddragdiva.livejournal.com/530264.html | Oct 26 22:41 | |
| phIRCe | Title: reddragdiva | In the city. .::. Size~: 27.96 KB | Oct 26 22:41 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: you made a minor mistake on the adobe one. Think about adobe products most are sold to developers or free. flash player is free. Development tools to go with it are not free. Adobe stand on GPL is truely linked to there customers that pay money. | Oct 26 22:42 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: I was gonna say free software | Oct 26 22:50 |
| schestowitz | Before posting I added "(dom)" | Oct 26 22:50 |
| schestowitz | There's the price of lockin | Oct 26 22:50 |
| schestowitz | Adobe makes Flash be putn everywhere | Oct 26 22:51 |
| schestowitz | Even phones | Oct 26 22:51 |
| schestowitz | Then it 'licences' this to makers and content producers | Oct 26 22:51 |
| schestowitz | So the cost is passed to you in some way | Oct 26 22:51 |
| oiaohm | Yet Adobe has not tried to use patents on anything else to stop cloning. | Oct 26 22:51 |
| schestowitz | True | Oct 26 22:51 |
| schestowitz | They are anti-spat | Oct 26 22:51 |
| schestowitz | I added that at the bottom | Oct 26 22:51 |
| oiaohm | They are not the worst evil out. | Oct 26 22:52 |
| schestowitz | I didn't say they were | Oct 26 22:52 |
| oiaohm | Adobe does try to push open standards. | Oct 26 22:52 |
| schestowitz | Heh. | Oct 26 22:52 |
| oiaohm | Claiming open source support yes is kinda streaching it. | Oct 26 22:52 |
| schestowitz | While abolishing them too | Oct 26 22:52 |
| schestowitz | ISO is a joke | Oct 26 22:52 |
| schestowitz | But PDF has its pros and cons | Oct 26 22:53 |
| schestowitz | I'd rather use PS | Oct 26 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Oh. | Oct 26 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Not photosho | Oct 26 22:53 |
| schestowitz | PostScript | Oct 26 22:53 |
| MinceR | i, too prefer PS to the Not-Quite-Portable Document Format | Oct 26 22:53 |
| oiaohm | PDF is used in the Linux print que. | Oct 26 22:53 |
| oiaohm | Main reason PDF can hold colour correction information. | Oct 26 22:53 |
| oiaohm | PS does not. | Oct 26 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft XP-ass | Oct 26 22:53 |
| schestowitz | XPS | Oct 26 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Metro | Oct 26 22:54 |
| oiaohm | XPS is badly documented. | Oct 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz | It failed | Oct 26 22:54 |
| oiaohm | PDF specs have been open for ages. Adobe applied common sence if documents are going to be archived. | Oct 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz | Microsofft tried to push it with Vista | Oct 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz | Now with Vista7 I assume... | Oct 26 22:54 |
| oiaohm | You need to be able to store the format information for future access. | Oct 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz | ACMA tried to ram it up ISO's uranus | Oct 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz | *ECMA | Oct 26 22:55 |
| MinceR | Dell XPS? :> | Oct 26 22:55 |
| oiaohm | PDF was not ISO for ages. | Oct 26 22:55 |
| oiaohm | Main reason PDF had a sneekly licence. | Oct 26 22:55 |
| oiaohm | A copy left licence. | Oct 26 22:55 |
| oiaohm | You can use the spec of PDF full spec as long as you don't go out of your way to break the DRM in PDF. | Oct 26 22:55 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: Dell tried to be cool | Oct 26 22:55 |
| schestowitz | They killed Alienware, didn't they? | Oct 26 22:56 |
| schestowitz | Abducted | Oct 26 22:56 |
| oiaohm | One of the sneakest DRM protection systems I ever seen. | Oct 26 22:56 |
| schestowitz | KDE breaks pdf drm | Oct 26 22:56 |
| oiaohm | Anyone break the DRM was in breach of licence on the specs. | Oct 26 22:56 |
| schestowitz | It has an option | Oct 26 22:56 |
| schestowitz | seigo wrote about it last year, iirc | Oct 26 22:56 |
| oiaohm | When it become ISO. | Oct 26 22:56 |
| oiaohm | Adobe could not keep that restriction. | Oct 26 22:57 |
| MinceR | they did but alienware | Oct 26 22:57 |
| MinceR | s/but/buy/ | Oct 26 22:57 |
| schestowitz | Who would enforce that? | Oct 26 22:57 |
| MinceR | i didn't know alienware much anyway | Oct 26 22:57 |
| schestowitz | Anyone break the GNU was in breach of licence on humanity. | Oct 26 22:57 |
| schestowitz | [22:56] <oiaohm> Anyone break the DRM was in breach of licence on the specs. | Oct 26 22:57 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Adobe did up until PDF become a ISO standard. | Oct 26 22:57 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: they don't exist | Oct 26 22:58 |
| schestowitz | Just some strong acid | Oct 26 22:58 |
| oiaohm | Basically creative use of copyleft Adobe was doing. | Oct 26 22:58 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it's a USian company | Oct 26 22:58 |
| schestowitz | I don't they they traded in the EUian continent | Oct 26 22:58 |
| schestowitz | Or Asian | Oct 26 22:58 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: was alienware in the AUian market, eevr? | Oct 26 22:59 |
| oiaohm | alienware cases are prised here schestowitz | Oct 26 22:59 |
| schestowitz | Oh. | Oct 26 22:59 |
| oiaohm | Some of them are even made here. | Oct 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/12977271#notice-12980070 | Oct 26 23:00 |
| phIRCe | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 7.69 KB | Oct 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz I remember reading about how kids were told they'd already committed to joining after just agreeing to an info session." | Oct 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | Child abuse from the military | Oct 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/10/22/british-nuclear-expert-dies-in-mysterious-fall-115875-21764514/ | Oct 26 23:01 |
| phIRCe | Title: British nuclear expert dies in mysterious fall - mirror.co.uk .::. Size~: 95.83 KB | Oct 26 23:01 |
| oiaohm | The scary alienware is the one with the half a inch alluimium outer casing. Kinda unbreakable schestowitz | Oct 26 23:01 |
| schestowitz | " Investigators said they have not ruled out murder or suicide, but local sources said no suicide note was found." | Oct 26 23:02 |
| schestowitz | " Police are also investigating the death of another Brit who fell from the same building four months ago." | Oct 26 23:02 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kelly_%28weapons_expert%29 | Oct 26 23:02 |
| oiaohm | http://www.alienware.com.au/dnn2/upgrade.aspx And there site is currently bust. | Oct 26 23:02 |
| phIRCe | Title: David Kelly (weapons expert) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 100.24 KB | Oct 26 23:02 |
| phIRCe | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 500 Internal Server Error .::. Size~: 0 KB | Oct 26 23:02 |
| schestowitz | "The Hutton Inquiry, a public inquiry into the circumstances surrounding his death, ruled that he had committed suicide, and that Kelly had not in fact said some of the things attributed to him by Gilligan. The following day, 28 January 2004, the entire front page of The Independent was covered with a single word in giant letters: "WHITEWASH"." | Oct 26 23:03 |
| schestowitz | Some say he got "suicided" | Oct 26 23:03 |
| oiaohm | Note alienware will dr | Oct 26 23:04 |
| oiaohm | directly ship to the uk schestowitz | Oct 26 23:04 |
| tessier | http://diveintomark.org/archives/2009/10/19/the-point | Oct 26 23:05 |
| phIRCe | Title: Thank you for giving me the opportunity to explain this to you [dive into mark] .::. Size~: 55.56 KB | Oct 26 23:05 |
| tessier | Now there's an interesting situation with regards to GPL licensing documentation. | Oct 26 23:05 |
| schestowitz | http://jeffreystedfast.blogspot.com/2009/10/trolls.html | Oct 26 23:06 |
| phIRCe | Title: A Moment of Zen: Trolls .::. Size~: 85.55 KB | Oct 26 23:06 |
| schestowitz | Some people have been trolling comments | Oct 26 23:06 |
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| oiaohm | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Thecus-N7700Pro/ Now that is a nice nas | Oct 26 23:07 |
| phIRCe | Title: NAS device offers 14TB storage, Core 2 Duo - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 60.87 KB | Oct 26 23:07 |
| _goblin | Roy are you there? | Oct 26 23:09 |
| schestowitz | o/ | Oct 26 23:09 |
| _goblin | I have a suggestion for solving the Mutex_ issue we had yesterday (if its not already been suggested) | Oct 26 23:09 |
| _goblin | why not only allow registered nicks in the channel? | Oct 26 23:09 |
| schestowitz | It's closing up of a group | Oct 26 23:09 |
| _goblin | that would slow down people who wanted to disrupt... | Oct 26 23:10 |
| schestowitz | It's bad enough that trolling did this to BN comments | Oct 26 23:10 |
| _goblin | im sure most people who use IRC regularly register their nick... | Oct 26 23:10 |
| tessier | Anyone can register though | Oct 26 23:10 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: and he's here | Oct 26 23:10 |
| _goblin | yep but it slows them down. | Oct 26 23:10 |
| schestowitz | faydon is mutex | Oct 26 23:10 |
| _goblin | ah | Oct 26 23:10 |
| _goblin | lol | Oct 26 23:10 |
| schestowitz | He'd never leave | Oct 26 23:10 |
| tessier | What was he doing yesterday? | Oct 26 23:10 |
| schestowitz | see the logs | Oct 26 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Long story | Oct 26 23:11 |
| _goblin | joining with a silly name, getting banned then doing it again... | Oct 26 23:11 |
| _goblin | all because he couldn't behave himself | Oct 26 23:11 |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz | Oct 26 23:11 | |
| _goblin | he was desperate to return....it was actually quite worrying. | Oct 26 23:11 |
| *schestowitz sets ban on faydon!*@* | Oct 26 23:12 | |
| *schestowitz has kicked faydon from #boycottnovell (User terminated!) | Oct 26 23:12 | |
| schestowitz | He comes back all the time | Oct 26 23:12 |
| _goblin | how did you know? | Oct 26 23:12 |
| schestowitz | faydon would be like his 30th name maybe, probably less | Oct 26 23:12 |
| _goblin | I thought he was using a proxy | Oct 26 23:12 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: his name and IP | Oct 26 23:12 |
| schestowitz | "cheese" @ scumpond | Oct 26 23:13 |
| _goblin | ah | Oct 26 23:13 |
| _goblin | I would have thought he would have changed that too. | Oct 26 23:13 |
| MinceR | he might read the logs. | Oct 26 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | He's not so bright, _goblin | Oct 26 23:13 |
| _goblin | ah | Oct 26 23:13 |
| _goblin | yeah I sort of saw that with his name calling yesterday | Oct 26 23:13 |
| schestowitz | So you saw what he was like before getting perbanned the first time | Oct 26 23:14 |
| schestowitz | *perm | Oct 26 23:14 |
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| wallc | does a *perm* ban make your hair curly? | Oct 26 23:15 |
| _goblin | yep | Oct 26 23:15 |
| MinceR | :D | Oct 26 23:15 |
| _goblin | like Michael Knight | Oct 26 23:15 |
| MinceR | ew | Oct 26 23:15 |
| cubezzz | I'm wondering why my video is so slow | Oct 26 23:15 |
| *MinceR casts Dispel Hoff | Oct 26 23:15 | |
| _goblin | god I thought he was cool when I was a kid. | Oct 26 23:15 |
| _goblin | I wanted my hair permed. | Oct 26 23:15 |
| cubezzz | the celeron 2.6 gmhz has slower video than my old p3 550 system | Oct 26 23:15 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Wow. Google's Brin now has 2 (TWO!!) blog items. In over a year that is. http://ping.fm/5Y6Jf | Oct 26 23:16 | |
| phIRCe | Title: too: Journey of a lifetime .::. Size~: 41.28 KB | Oct 26 23:16 |
| oiaohm | cubezzz: what OS what player ? | Oct 26 23:17 |
| cubezzz | Fedora 11 | Oct 26 23:17 |
| cubezzz | card is ATI Radeon 9250 | Oct 26 23:17 |
| cubezzz | testing with glxgears | Oct 26 23:17 |
| oiaohm | Ok ATI drivers still suck. | Oct 26 23:17 |
| oiaohm | They have improved. | Oct 26 23:18 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Does anyone take the TV show "Most Haunted" seriously? I mean, come on... #tv #itshouldbeillegal | Oct 26 23:18 | |
| oiaohm | cubezzz: closed source ati drivers perform a little better than the open source ones cubezzz | Oct 26 23:18 |
| oiaohm | Disable desktop effects and you will pull out at times on some ati card 50 percent more performance. | Oct 26 23:19 |
| MinceR | also, my CIDR ban had no effect. | Oct 26 23:19 |
| *MinceR removes ban on *!*@121.208.0.0/12 | Oct 26 23:19 | |
| cubezzz | hmmm | Oct 26 23:19 |
| cubezzz | desktop effects aren't even enabled | Oct 26 23:20 |
| cubezzz | stuff like blockout is slower too | Oct 26 23:20 |
| cubezzz | rather not too good | Oct 26 23:20 |
| oiaohm | if using kde desktop is uses the same inferace automatically. | Oct 26 23:20 |
| oiaohm | as desktop effects. | Oct 26 23:20 |
| oiaohm | Causing the same effect. | Oct 26 23:20 |
| oiaohm | With it disabled kde 4.3 looks bad. | Oct 26 23:21 |
| schestowitz | Not *Too* bad | Oct 26 23:21 |
| schestowitz | The panel gets nice bg image | Oct 26 23:21 |
| schestowitz | But moving windows around is ugly | Oct 26 23:21 |
| oiaohm | Ok bad when you are use to KDE nice movent. | Oct 26 23:22 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Think you know when man first harnessed electricity? Think again: http://bit.ly/18tWiR | Oct 26 23:24 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Baghdad Battery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 43.83 KB | Oct 26 23:24 |
| schestowitz | http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/Display_news.asp?section=Business_News&subsection=market+news&month=October2009&file=Business_News200910249515.xml | Oct 26 23:24 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: it's still where energy comes from | Oct 26 23:25 |
| schestowitz | By boat/pipe | Oct 26 23:25 |
| _goblin | Ive also got views on the ark.....religious artifact? not in my opinion. | Oct 26 23:26 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: can vista7 already be called an upgrade from xp? | Oct 26 23:26 |
| schestowitz | If XP>VIsta, then people ask the wrong questions | Oct 26 23:27 |
| schestowitz | And few people even use Vista, so the Q to ask is, would the u/g be worth it? is it a downgrade? | Oct 26 23:27 |
| schestowitz | VIsta7 has DRM | Oct 26 23:27 |
| _goblin | I'd say that Vista is not an upgrade from XP... | Oct 26 23:27 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/25/windows_7_reader_reviews_redux/ | Oct 26 23:27 |
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| schestowitz | "A 6 weeks down the line, it's a dog. I need to make clear, this test machine only has Corel X3, Inkscape, and Filezilla installed. 7 has been slowing down terribly though. I've been through the Start up settings, and there is nothing starting up in the back ground. Yesterday I got to the log-in screen in 30 seconds, and then after putting in my password, it took 20 minutes to give me a desktop. I actually waited (well, went out for | Oct 26 23:27 |
| schestowitz | a fag and a tea), and kept an eye on it." | Oct 26 23:27 |
| oiaohm | The baghdad Battery could explain the some of the tomb in Egypt. Some of them have no smoke on roof from lighting and are too deep and complex to use mirrors so something else had to been used to do the walls. | Oct 26 23:29 |
| cubezzz | folks, could you give me the numbers you get from glxgears? | Oct 26 23:29 |
| cubezzz | I want to know how slow this box is | Oct 26 23:29 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.ft.com/techblog/2009/10/the-latest-iphone-challenger-is-something-else/ | Oct 26 23:29 |
| phIRCe | Title: FT.com | Tech Blog | The latest iPhone challenger is something Else .::. Size~: 71.83 KB | Oct 26 23:29 |
| wallc | Uge, the Ubuntu forums feel like they're being over-run by people promoting Win 7. | Oct 26 23:29 |
| schestowitz | I'd never touch ACCESS phones | Oct 26 23:29 |
| schestowitz | roy@roy:~$ glxgears | Oct 26 23:29 |
| schestowitz | Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be | Oct 26 23:29 |
| schestowitz | approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate. | Oct 26 23:29 |
| schestowitz | 8564 frames in 5.0 seconds | Oct 26 23:29 |
| oiaohm | 20136 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4027.099 FPS And mine is a old NVIDIA | Oct 26 23:30 |
| schestowitz | wallc: and Mono | Oct 26 23:30 |
| cubezzz | ok, this box really really sucks :) | Oct 26 23:30 |
| schestowitz | I got some E-mails from a guy who complains about AstroTurfers in Ubuntu Forums | Oct 26 23:30 |
| _goblin | oiaohm: Thats what I was thinking | Oct 26 23:30 |
| oiaohm | GeForce 6800 GS/PCI/SSE2 | Oct 26 23:30 |
| cubezzz | I'm getting about 275 FPS | Oct 26 23:30 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: dual head? | Oct 26 23:31 |
| wallc | haven't seen much mono talk on Ubu-Forums lately, i think most people are afraid to even say the word anymore. | Oct 26 23:31 |
| oiaohm | dual head schestowitz | Oct 26 23:31 |
| schestowitz | oh. | Oct 26 23:31 |
| schestowitz | I use nvidia8600 | Oct 26 23:31 |
| schestowitz | wallc: mono is not cool | Oct 26 23:31 |
| schestowitz | stereo is standard now | Oct 26 23:31 |
| schestowitz | mono is old news | Oct 26 23:31 |
| schestowitz | We don't have gramophones anymore, either | Oct 26 23:32 |
| oiaohm | Ok I was thinking mine would be slow. | Oct 26 23:32 |
| cubezzz | mine is ridiculously slow :-( | Oct 26 23:32 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: what size? | Oct 26 23:32 |
| schestowitz | I see it matters a lot | Oct 26 23:32 |
| schestowitz | 12613 frames in 5.0 seconds | Oct 26 23:33 |
| schestowitz | at full screen it's 4000 | Oct 26 23:33 |
| schestowitz | 13800 frames in 5.0 seconds | Oct 26 23:33 |
| schestowitz | If I shrink it I get 22992 frames in 5.0 seconds | Oct 26 23:33 |
| cubezzz | I was just using the base size | Oct 26 23:34 |
| schestowitz | at 20pc-x20 I get 37392 frames in 5.0 seconds | Oct 26 23:34 |
| oiaohm | Mine slows down at 1280x1024 to 3743 frames in 5.0 seconds = 748.589 FPS | Oct 26 23:34 |
| oiaohm | Still more than fast enough. | Oct 26 23:34 |
| schestowitz | Ok, so about the same | Oct 26 23:34 |
| oiaohm | But yours is a lot newer card schestowitz | Oct 26 23:35 |
| schestowitz | 488 frames in 5.0 seconds if spread across two monitors | Oct 26 23:35 |
| oiaohm | That is about the same. | Oct 26 23:35 |
| oiaohm | cubezzz: its ATI drivers. | Oct 26 23:36 |
| oiaohm | Sooner we get ATI drivers that work the better. | Oct 26 23:36 |
| oiaohm | The ATI cards are more than able to kick the crud out the Nvidia cards just poor drivers stop them from doingit. | Oct 26 23:36 |
| cubezzz | fglrx driver seems to be the one I need | Oct 26 23:36 |
| cubezzz | currently it's just ati | Oct 26 23:37 |
| oiaohm | fglrx will be faster than the open source ones | Oct 26 23:37 |
| oiaohm | ammout changes a lot on per card base. | Oct 26 23:37 |
| oiaohm | really old cards open source is faster than closed source ati drivers. | Oct 26 23:37 |
| cubezzz | this is about 2004 I think | Oct 26 23:38 |
| schestowitz | Myth: "I know there is Linux, which is growing in popularity, but as of yet, it is not bundled and sold with computer hardware, except for the occasional netbook." | Oct 26 23:38 |
| cubezzz | ATI Radeon 9250 | Oct 26 23:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.thesudburystar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2145508 | Oct 26 23:38 |
| trmanco | !quit phIRCe | Oct 26 23:39 |
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| oiaohm | That is still on the side closed source wins cubezzz | Oct 26 23:39 |
| oiaohm | But question is by how much cubezzz | Oct 26 23:39 |
| cubezzz | others seem to be getting much faster pref using the same card | Oct 26 23:40 |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10382664-94.html | Oct 26 23:40 |
| schestowitz | Shame that... | Oct 26 23:40 |
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| oiaohm | cubezzz: that is true. ATI cards on Linux are highly verable. | Oct 26 23:40 |
| oiaohm | You normally have to tweak the control center to match each card on the closed soruce driver cubezzz | Oct 26 23:41 |
| oiaohm | And if a ATI card has been overheated it also suxs big time. | Oct 26 23:41 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: do you want me to run phirce? | Oct 26 23:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 26 23:41 |
| schestowitz | The program 'php' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: | Oct 26 23:41 |
| schestowitz | sudo apt-get install php5-cli | Oct 26 23:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 26 23:41 |
| oiaohm | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_wart Ok this is the first time I have heard them call this. | Oct 26 23:43 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, yeah I can see it's not an automatic thing | Oct 26 23:48 |
| _goblin | lol.....this is great: | Oct 26 23:48 |
| _goblin | " Microsoft Corp. Chief Executive Officer Steve Ballmer says the company got the wrong impression from early positive feedback on Vista and won’t make the same mistake with the software’s successor, Windows 7." | Oct 26 23:48 |
| cubezzz | the positive astro-turfing he means? yes, very unreliable :) | Oct 26 23:49 |
| fewa | _goblin, good one | Oct 26 23:50 |
| _goblin | its easy to misunderstand: | Oct 26 23:50 |
| _goblin | "The problems have been numerous and countless and as my colleague put earlier on, a representative of the students in the education sector, he was, “f***ing livid”." | Oct 26 23:50 |
| _goblin | I can see where Microsoft got confused.... | Oct 26 23:51 |
| _goblin | stupid customers not making themselves clear enough. | Oct 26 23:51 |
| fewa | cubezzz, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SheevaPlug | Oct 26 23:51 |
| _goblin | I'm going to have to run a little comedy on that one..... | Oct 26 23:51 |
| _goblin | is there anyone Microsoft wont blame? | Oct 26 23:52 |
| oiaohm | _goblin: vista was a very small test group. Lot of people only gave positive because they wanted a free copy of windows. | Oct 26 23:52 |
| oiaohm | Price of doing testing with freebees. | Oct 26 23:52 |
| _goblin | "Its not our fault Vista was a failure....it was Gods will" - Steve Ballmer explaining Vista problems. | Oct 26 23:52 |
| oiaohm | Testers don't always tell the truth. | Oct 26 23:52 |
| _goblin | and Microsoft did not realize that or even know themselves that Vista was a pile? | Oct 26 23:53 |
| oiaohm | Old saying pay peanuts expect monkeys or elephants and the wrong one will turn up to do you task. | Oct 26 23:54 |
| cubezzz | fewa: interesting | Oct 26 23:54 |
| _goblin | so either Microsoft are so stupid that they believed a few testers and couldn't even understand their own product....or they knew it was crap and still sold it. | Oct 26 23:54 |
| _goblin | I'd say it was the latter. | Oct 26 23:54 |
| oiaohm | I was in tech net at the time. | Oct 26 23:55 |
| oiaohm | Most people were giving positive answers. | Oct 26 23:55 |
| oiaohm | Its a bit like windows 7 more faults are appear after its release. The question is how critical. | Oct 26 23:56 |
| _goblin | I think MS knew the product sucked, I can't believe they didn't know their own product and followed what their testers said...surely one employee would have noticed that Vista was awful...surely one person would have said er excuse me, we cant sell this..... | Oct 26 23:56 |
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| oiaohm | MS has not paid pro testers to go through there products _goblin | Oct 26 23:56 |
| schestowitz | ~!google test | Oct 26 23:56 |
| phIRCe-local | Hello World! | Oct 26 23:56 |
| schestowitz | !google test | Oct 26 23:56 |
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| schestowitz | Meh. | Oct 26 23:56 |
| schestowitz | Fatal error: Call to undefined function curl_init() in /home/roy/Main/Programs/phirce/Class.phIRCe.php on line 396 | Oct 26 23:56 |
| oiaohm | So the information they have is garbled mess so you really don't have a clue if its ok or not _goblin | Oct 26 23:56 |
| _goblin | Im sure but then are we saying that Microsoft truely didn't know how bad Vista was? | Oct 26 23:57 |
| schestowitz | I'll wait for trmanco | Oct 26 23:57 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft simply does not know _goblin | Oct 26 23:57 |
| _goblin | that shows massive incompetance in my opinion. | Oct 26 23:57 |
| oiaohm | I agree with massive incompetance and its also being a cheap scate. | Oct 26 23:57 |
| _goblin | not one MS employee involved in Vista noticed how bad it really was. | Oct 26 23:57 |
| _goblin | are we really believing that? | Oct 26 23:58 |
| cubezzz | of course not | Oct 26 23:58 |
| oiaohm | None of the employees was required to test every feature. | Oct 26 23:58 |
| oiaohm | And none of the employess were required to use it before release _goblin | Oct 26 23:58 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: you probably need libcurl | Oct 26 23:58 |
| _goblin | I know, but then even the most fleeting of Vista uses shows its issues. | Oct 26 23:58 |
| oiaohm | Ie dogfooding process of OS was not done. | Oct 26 23:58 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: ah | Oct 26 23:58 |
| _goblin | and that was forgetting the poor compat/driver issues. | Oct 26 23:58 |
| oiaohm | MS believed when the release the OS hardware makers would magically release drivers fixing issue _goblin | Oct 26 23:59 |
| oiaohm | They had before. | Oct 26 23:59 |
| oiaohm | Vista is the first sign that MS that the hardware markets are getting sick of MS. | Oct 26 23:59 |
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