| shreddar | I just want something that won't break programs with updates. | Oct 29 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| shreddar | Also, I've been having problem with Ubuntu repositories not having some packages I want. (emulators mostly) | Oct 29 00:01 |
| oiaohm | swap partitions dont' show for pritty direct reasons. | Oct 29 00:03 |
| *shreddar has quit (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) | Oct 29 00:06 | |
| *shreddar (i=62f0385c@gateway/web/freenode/x-xfzvojsneqcembvf) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 00:07 | |
| shreddar | maybe root and swap are my only partitions because I don't see /home or /opt | Oct 29 00:07 |
| shreddar | in fstab | Oct 29 00:07 |
| shreddar | When KDE warned me about my disk space I did the Computer Janitor and it got rid of some of my programs and dependencies. | Oct 29 00:08 |
| shreddar | I know that it was unnecessary because I have about 60 GB of space in this partition. (70 GB total) | Oct 29 00:09 |
| shreddar | Some of the dependencies I needed for FCEUX. (I had to compile it to get the latest one) | Oct 29 00:13 |
| shreddar | And Gens was just plain removed. | Oct 29 00:13 |
| shreddar | Who knows what other dependencies I'm missing now. I forgot all the ones I had installed. (most of them were for compiling other apps) | Oct 29 00:15 |
| *merriam_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | Oct 29 00:19 | |
| *merriam_ (n=merriam@wmerriam.gotadsl.co.uk) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 00:19 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] lol @harlem & @nikolaidis - nice use of the @uupc theme there ;) | Oct 29 00:19 | |
| shreddar | It's funny the reason I installed KDE4 (other than curiosity) was because GNOME's file manager started crashing for some reason every time I went to the picture folder. | Oct 29 00:20 |
| shreddar | I just didn't want to figure it out. | Oct 29 00:20 |
| shreddar | Also, I've always liked KDE more. | Oct 29 00:21 |
| shreddar | GNOME looks so outdated to me. | Oct 29 00:21 |
| shreddar | It's always looked outdated to me. | Oct 29 00:22 |
| shreddar | The defaults on it make it look that way. | Oct 29 00:23 |
| shreddar | I'm sure you can customize and make it look like something out of Minority Report but I don't think my hardware will do it. And anyway it's the icons more than anything. | Oct 29 00:24 |
| shreddar | That's not true the 'Human' icons are okay. | Oct 29 00:26 |
| shreddar | The default icons are inhumane. | Oct 29 00:26 |
| *Tallken (n=f2f93bf5@93.102.79.110.rev.optimus.pt) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 00:29 | |
| shreddar | I notice them every time I use the Synaptic Package Manager. Apparently root doesn't have the nice theme that my user session has. | Oct 29 00:30 |
| shreddar | I don't know if other distro's break apps with updates but I've never had to deal with such problems until Ubuntu. Sabayon seemed fine (this was years ago on my 1st computer) with updates. Though I can't remember doing them. hmmm | Oct 29 00:37 |
| shreddar | I guess I really wanted Ubuntu to be the best distro ever and though it has surpassed my expectations I alot of areas. I think Sabayon worked better. Anyway, I'll find out. I might end trying install Gentoo again. | Oct 29 00:40 |
| PetoKraus | bloody hell | Oct 29 00:41 |
| PetoKraus | reinstalling windows vista is pain | Oct 29 00:41 |
| shreddar | How much of a pain is it? | Oct 29 00:42 |
| PetoKraus | quite a lot | Oct 29 00:45 |
| PetoKraus | first, my customer dropped the PC | Oct 29 00:45 |
| PetoKraus | the HDD was knackered, but readable | Oct 29 00:46 |
| PetoKraus | so i ddrescued the contents to new one | Oct 29 00:46 |
| PetoKraus | damaged registry, without backup - no way to get it up and running. | Oct 29 00:46 |
| PetoKraus | so I tried the inbuilt partition for dell recovery to factory image | Oct 29 00:46 |
| PetoKraus | that doesn't work either. the restored image is borked, i think | Oct 29 00:47 |
| PetoKraus | so I installed genuine windows vista home premium, just to end on a phone to pakistan | Oct 29 00:47 |
| PetoKraus | not being able to activate the system with the OEM license | Oct 29 00:47 |
| PetoKraus | what a joke. | Oct 29 00:47 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Top #Windows Executive Quits #Microsoft Upon #Vista7 Release http://ping.fm/24hmv | Oct 29 00:47 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Top Windows Executive Quits Microsoft Upon Vista 7 Release | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 109.9 KB | Oct 29 00:48 |
| schestowitz | PetoKraus: come to GNU :-) | Oct 29 00:49 |
| schestowitz | What were you doin' outside Arch/gentoo in the first place? | Oct 29 00:49 |
| PetoKraus | http://www.geeksonbikes.net | Oct 29 00:49 |
| PetoKraus | my new box is firmly Arch linux, don't worry | Oct 29 00:49 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Geeks On Bikes .::. Size~: 6.45 KB | Oct 29 00:49 |
| shreddar | Me? | Oct 29 00:49 |
| schestowitz | Windows Me2 | Oct 29 00:50 |
| schestowitz | =Vista | Oct 29 00:50 |
| shreddar | No, were you talking to PetoKraus or me? | Oct 29 00:50 |
| shreddar | I want to try Gentoo someday but I know better. | Oct 29 00:51 |
| shreddar | I go back to Sabayon and if that works out maybe I'll see what Gentoo is like. | Oct 29 00:51 |
| *_Hicham_ (n=hicham@196.12.245.150) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 00:57 | |
| shreddar | The last time I tried to install Gentoo (years ago) the farthest I got was a system where I couldn't use my keyboard and some other issues I can't remeber. But that was before I did LFS so maybe I would have as much of a problem this time. | Oct 29 00:58 |
| *hicham_ (n=hicham@196.12.245.150) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 00:58 | |
| shreddar | wouldn't | Oct 29 00:58 |
| *_Hicham_ has quit (Client Quit) | Oct 29 00:59 | |
| *hicham_ is now known as _Hicham_ | Oct 29 01:00 | |
| _Hicham_ | hi oiaohm | Oct 29 01:00 |
| shreddar | So is that the real jono on here? | Oct 29 01:02 |
| _Hicham_ | yes, it is him | Oct 29 01:03 |
| _Hicham_ | are u a member of ubuntu community ? | Oct 29 01:04 |
| shreddar | No. | Oct 29 01:04 |
| shreddar | I have Ubuntu though. | Oct 29 01:04 |
| _Hicham_ | how do u know him ? | Oct 29 01:04 |
| _Hicham_ | good | Oct 29 01:04 |
| _Hicham_ | karmic ? | Oct 29 01:04 |
| shreddar | I listend to the podcast. | Oct 29 01:05 |
| shreddar | 9.04 | Oct 29 01:05 |
| shreddar | I don't know which one that is. | Oct 29 01:05 |
| _Hicham_ | did u like that release ? | Oct 29 01:06 |
| shreddar | At first I did. | Oct 29 01:06 |
| _Hicham_ | and now u don't ? | Oct 29 01:06 |
| shreddar | I started having problems with some programs breaking. | Oct 29 01:07 |
| _Hicham_ | which programs ? | Oct 29 01:07 |
| shreddar | nautilus | Oct 29 01:07 |
| _Hicham_ | nautilus is broken ? | Oct 29 01:08 |
| shreddar | When I went to my pictures directory it kept crashing the whole system | Oct 29 01:08 |
| shreddar | I was frozen | Oct 29 01:08 |
| shreddar | it | Oct 29 01:08 |
| shreddar | it was frozen | Oct 29 01:09 |
| _Hicham_ | did u file a bug ? | Oct 29 01:09 |
| shreddar | no | Oct 29 01:09 |
| _Hicham_ | why ? | Oct 29 01:09 |
| shreddar | I was too focused on fixed the immediate problem. | Oct 29 01:11 |
| _Hicham_ | maybe it is not nautilus | Oct 29 01:11 |
| _Hicham_ | just the thumbnailer program | Oct 29 01:11 |
| shreddar | Yeah I think some kind of program that it uses was doing it. | Oct 29 01:12 |
| shreddar | I did a search on it but could not find a solution. | Oct 29 01:12 |
| shreddar | I think it might have happened in a update or something. | Oct 29 01:13 |
| _Hicham_ | did u clean the thumbnails directory | Oct 29 01:13 |
| _Hicham_ | ? | Oct 29 01:13 |
| _Hicham_ | or try disabling thumbnails in Edit>Preferences>Preview | Oct 29 01:14 |
| shreddar | I don't know if it was the thumnails. I think it was a process that nautilus uses to show thumbnails. | Oct 29 01:16 |
| *Balrog_ has quit () | Oct 29 01:16 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #LosAngeles Officially Dumps #Novell , #Microsoft to Pay the Bill http://ping.fm/2r69n | Oct 29 01:16 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Los Angeles Officially Dumps Novell, Microsoft to Pay the Bill | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 112.68 KB | Oct 29 01:17 |
| shreddar | I think the problem's gone now. I just check it. | Oct 29 01:17 |
| shreddar | It wasn't just nautilus I somehow filled up 60GB of space and ran Computer Janitor which ended up removing some of my apps and dependencies. | Oct 29 01:19 |
| shreddar | I still don't know why I had to do that to clear up the space. | Oct 29 01:19 |
| shreddar | or even what was taking up that much space. | Oct 29 01:20 |
| _Hicham_ | other than that everything was fine ? | Oct 29 01:21 |
| shreddar | Yes. | Oct 29 01:22 |
| shreddar | I think it would all be great if I never did updates. | Oct 29 01:22 |
| shreddar | I'm still not sure, though. | Oct 29 01:23 |
| shreddar | It has great hardware detection. | Oct 29 01:25 |
| shreddar | The first time I ever have my wireless care work out of the bos. | Oct 29 01:25 |
| shreddar | wireless card | Oct 29 01:25 |
| _Hicham_ | what wireless card do u have ? | Oct 29 01:26 |
| shreddar | Netgear wg111v2 | Oct 29 01:26 |
| shreddar | I wouldn't recommend it though. | Oct 29 01:26 |
| _Hicham_ | why ? | Oct 29 01:26 |
| shreddar | I works but not very fully. | Oct 29 01:26 |
| shreddar | I think the driver works but the card itself is very badly made. | Oct 29 01:27 |
| _Hicham_ | does it have a proprietary driver ? | Oct 29 01:28 |
| shreddar | I can't remember. You know the command to look at modules? | Oct 29 01:29 |
| _Hicham_ | lsmod | Oct 29 01:29 |
| shreddar | I think it works with a open source driver. | Oct 29 01:31 |
| shreddar | I can't find the module though. | Oct 29 01:31 |
| *shreddar_ (i=62f0385c@gateway/web/freenode/session) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 01:33 | |
| shreddar_ | I'm not using NDISWrapper. | Oct 29 01:33 |
| *shreddar has quit (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) | Oct 29 01:34 | |
| shreddar_ | What happend | Oct 29 01:34 |
| shreddar_ | You know I forgot I'm not using the card anymore. | Oct 29 01:37 |
| shreddar_ | That's why it's does not show up in the lsmod. | Oct 29 01:37 |
| shreddar_ | I've been using my wireless repeater for internet. | Oct 29 01:38 |
| shreddar_ | Ok it uses the rtl8187 driver. | Oct 29 01:39 |
| shreddar_ | module | Oct 29 01:40 |
| shreddar_ | it's usb | Oct 29 01:41 |
| shreddar_ | Am I connected to the chat stream thing still? | Oct 29 01:43 |
| *shreddar_ has quit () | Oct 29 01:44 | |
| *shreddar (i=62f0385c@gateway/web/freenode/session) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 01:45 | |
| shreddar | Ok, is my text coming through? | Oct 29 01:45 |
| *shreddar echoes | Oct 29 01:47 | |
| *lordtoran has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | Oct 29 01:48 | |
| voltronw | shreddar: nope, nothing | Oct 29 01:49 |
| shreddar | LOL | Oct 29 01:49 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Some Perceive Toddlers as Emerging Markets, a Business http://ping.fm/2sw18 #windows #fsfe #germany | Oct 29 01:54 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Some Perceive Toddlers as Emerging Markets, a Business | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 109.19 KB | Oct 29 01:55 |
| *jono has quit ("Ex-Chat") | Oct 29 01:57 | |
| shreddar | http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/10/voice-recognition-gets-cloudy-will-soon-rival-humans.ars | Oct 29 02:06 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Voice recognition gets "cloudy," but is it the "new touch"? - Ars Technica .::. Size~: 44.94 KB | Oct 29 02:06 |
| shreddar | I know MS will probably limit it in some way or tie it to Windows but the futurist in me can't help but pay attention. | Oct 29 02:08 |
| shreddar | This will not just be for those people who will never learn to type. | Oct 29 02:10 |
| shreddar | I imagine when they put web browser in tv's and set-top boxes that voice recognition can be a more convenient alternative to the on-screen keyboard. | Oct 29 02:11 |
| oiaohm | There is a downside to voice recording. | Oct 29 02:12 |
| *krenso has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | Oct 29 02:13 | |
| oiaohm | I remember the dilbert in shower. Where dog bert in a trouble making mode tricks dilbert into saying things he don't want. | Oct 29 02:13 |
| oiaohm | Like 4000 degrees C | Oct 29 02:13 |
| _Hicham_ | what is the downside ? | Oct 29 02:13 |
| shreddar | Yeah, I saw that one. | Oct 29 02:14 |
| oiaohm | Now at least with tv remote you can make sure there is only one person in room with it. | Oct 29 02:14 |
| shreddar | I think for doing searches this will be helpful. | Oct 29 02:14 |
| _Hicham_ | oiaohm : delta rpms are really great | Oct 29 02:14 |
| _Hicham_ | an update was reduced by 85 % ! | Oct 29 02:15 |
| oiaohm | delta good idea does have some weaknesses for the server side. | Oct 29 02:15 |
| oiaohm | And can have some weaknesses on the client side as well. | Oct 29 02:15 |
| oiaohm | we should see it in ubuntu at some stage _Hicham_ Simple issue of numbers of users vs bandwidth | Oct 29 02:18 |
| shreddar | I know one thing that could also help is if keyboard were in alphabetical order instead of qwerty. | Oct 29 02:18 |
| _Hicham_ | oiaohm : is there a draft for it on ubuntu ? | Oct 29 02:19 |
| oiaohm | There is another solution that avoids deltas too. http://zsync.moria.org.uk/ | Oct 29 02:21 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: zsync .::. Size~: 7.26 KB | Oct 29 02:21 |
| *PetoKraus has quit ("Leaving") | Oct 29 02:21 | |
| oiaohm | At some point delta or something like zsync will have to be used. | Oct 29 02:22 |
| *DaemonFC (i=Ryan@c-69-245-242-208.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 02:22 | |
| oiaohm | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/apt-sync based off it _Hicham_ | Oct 29 02:24 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: apt-sync - Ubuntu Wiki .::. Size~: 33.94 KB | Oct 29 02:24 |
| oiaohm | Currently cannot be used due to apt not being able to validate the deb. | Oct 29 02:24 |
| *shecky (i=92737d17@gateway/web/freenode/session) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 02:28 | |
| *shecky has quit (Client Quit) | Oct 29 02:29 | |
| oiaohm | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/10/games-you-cant-play-the-early-copies-of-borderlands.ars PC gamers become secound rate cits. | Oct 29 02:31 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Games you can't play: the early copies of Borderlands - Ars Technica .::. Size~: 43.5 KB | Oct 29 02:31 |
| *oiaohm has quit (Remote closed the connection) | Oct 29 02:33 | |
| *_Hicham_ has quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) | Oct 29 02:36 | |
| DaemonFC | PC gamers are being stiffed | Oct 29 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | the huge profit market is the console now | Oct 29 02:38 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] !emacs !haskell mode for !fedora review request updated to version 2.5.1 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517366#c23 | Oct 29 03:24 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Bug 517366 – Review Request: emacs-haskell-mode - Haskell editing mode for Emacs .::. Size~: 52.46 KB | Oct 29 03:24 |
| DaemonFC | this game is so stupid | Oct 29 03:25 |
| DaemonFC | you tell the NPC to stay down and she walks right in front of you while you're shooting at a terrorist and you lose | Oct 29 03:25 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, I know if I was the unarmed civilian, I'd walk right out in the middle of a crossfire | Oct 29 03:26 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] ம்ம்ம்ம் நல்ல மழை. வட கிழக்கு பருவ மழை | Oct 29 03:29 | |
| DaemonFC | http://abcnews.go.com/WN/fbi-agents-kill-suspect-luqman-ameen-abdullah-detroit/story?id=8941776 | Oct 29 03:37 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: FBI Agents Kill Suspect, Luqman Ameen Abdullah, During Detroit-Area Raid - ABC News .::. Size~: 60.16 KB | Oct 29 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | another scumbag down | Oct 29 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | at least this one won't cost us money to warehouse in our revolving door justice system :) | Oct 29 03:38 |
| DaemonFC | prison convert Muslims who want to murder people and stage an insurrection against the government | Oct 29 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | our tax dollars at work | Oct 29 03:40 |
| *shreddar has quit ("television") | Oct 29 03:40 | |
| voltronw | DaemonFC: innocent until proven guilty? | Oct 29 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | voltronw, If you shoot at law enforcement, they have the right to fire back | Oct 29 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | I think that pretty much tells us everything we need to know about that guy | Oct 29 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | he got exactly what he deserved | Oct 29 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | the law provides for harsh penalties for cop killers because if they do that to the police, what will they do to unarmed civilians? | Oct 29 03:43 |
| voltronw | DaemonFC: the article doesn't say that the suspect was shooting at law enforcement officers | Oct 29 03:43 |
| DaemonFC | these guys are one of the worst kinds of criminal | Oct 29 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | voltronw, It said he was prepared for a shoot out | Oct 29 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | it stands to reason that he fired first | Oct 29 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | voltronw, Luckily, Indiana provides for a lifetime concealed carry permit | Oct 29 03:45 |
| voltronw | why is that lucky? | Oct 29 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | I usually carry a .40 S&W on me | Oct 29 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | it's not pretty, but it works well enough | Oct 29 03:46 |
| voltronw | ever shot anyone? | Oct 29 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | voltronw, No. I hope I never have to. | Oct 29 03:47 |
| voltronw | me too | Oct 29 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | If I feel like my life is being threatened or someone elses is, I'll use it | Oct 29 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | voltronw, The criminals all have guns, I figure I probably should too | Oct 29 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | it takes the police at least 10 minutes to get anywhere and a lot can happen in 10 minutes | Oct 29 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | just trusting that the police will save you is naive at best | Oct 29 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | voltronw, Indiana law also allows for a citizens arrest if you witness a felony | Oct 29 03:51 |
| voltronw | how many citizens arrests end in convictions per year? | Oct 29 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | voltronw, It's not widely used | Oct 29 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | If they're pointing a gun at someone or breaking into my home, it'll be my word against a corpse | Oct 29 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | if you get me | Oct 29 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | voltronw, It's not worth them finding some slick lawyer or technicality in the law and suing you for false arrest | Oct 29 03:54 |
| DaemonFC | Just shoot them and say it was self defense or defense of another | Oct 29 03:54 |
| DaemonFC | simplest way to do it | Oct 29 03:54 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think anyone around would testify against you in that situation if the family of that person sued for wrongful death or something | Oct 29 03:55 |
| voltronw | clearly, you've thought through this issue | Oct 29 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, you don't get a gun for self defense unless you know you're prepared to use it if needs be | Oct 29 03:57 |
| voltronw | i never really understood the effectiveness of a firearm as a deterrent, in what scenario would a concealed firearm allow me to escape a dangerous situation? | Oct 29 03:57 |
| voltronw | say, an armed carjacking where i'm confronted with a gun pointed at me from outside the car | Oct 29 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | voltronw, I don't usually conceal it | Oct 29 03:58 |
| voltronw | do i ask the attacker to hang on a sec while i remove my firearm from my holster? | Oct 29 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | voltronw, I've been in that situation before | Oct 29 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | I rolled up the window on his arm and floored it | Oct 29 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | dragged him down the street for about a block and let him go | Oct 29 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | course he had a knife | Oct 29 03:59 |
| voltronw | so... not the situation i described then | Oct 29 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | voltronw, I usually have it laying in the seat beside me | Oct 29 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | if I'm driving through a bad area | Oct 29 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | simple, keep your eyes open, if anyone tries to carjack you, just shoot through the glass if you need to | Oct 29 04:01 |
| voltronw | but by reaching for your it, grasping it, chambering a round, and aiming it, you're hoping to call the attackers bluff that he never intended to shoot you for non compliance | Oct 29 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | I have a pair of shooting glasses | Oct 29 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | would probably protect me from glass fragments | Oct 29 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | voltronw, you could always jsut keep the first round chambered | Oct 29 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | and the safety on | Oct 29 04:01 |
| voltronw | right, forgot about the safety | Oct 29 04:02 |
| voltronw | DaemonFC: so you drive around with a loaded gun on the passenger seat with a round chambered, the safety off, while wearing shooting glasses? | Oct 29 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | just don't store it like that | Oct 29 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | voltronw, depends on where I am | Oct 29 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | I don't find myself in that situation much | Oct 29 04:02 |
| voltronw | i would, uh, hope not | Oct 29 04:03 |
| DaemonFC | there's some bad parts of Fort Wayne | Oct 29 04:03 |
| voltronw | but the real issue here is that even with your... elevated level of preparation, a carjacker with a gun would still be able to kill you | Oct 29 04:03 |
| DaemonFC | who says they wouldn't anyway? | Oct 29 04:04 |
| *_Hicham_ (n=hicham@196.12.245.169) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 04:04 | |
| DaemonFC | at least I have a chance | Oct 29 04:04 |
| voltronw | so rather than exiting your vehicle you will reach for your gun, with the knowledge that in the time it takes you to do so the attacker will have enough time to shoot you? | Oct 29 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | probably best to just keep a foot on the accelerator really | Oct 29 04:07 |
| voltronw | the what purpose do the gun (and, for that matter, the glasses) serve? | Oct 29 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | well, they're polarized | Oct 29 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | they make decent sunglasses | Oct 29 04:08 |
| voltronw | ah, so they protect against uv rays and glass that was shattered by incoming rounds | Oct 29 04:09 |
| voltronw | that's pretty versatile | Oct 29 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | they're fairly tough | Oct 29 04:09 |
| voltronw | clearly | Oct 29 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | I used to wear the same kind of glasses to spot weld | Oct 29 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | they're OSHA approved for that kind of work | Oct 29 04:10 |
| DaemonFC | so I'm pretty sure they could deflect a small flying piece of glass | Oct 29 04:11 |
| voltronw | let's hope | Oct 29 04:12 |
| voltronw | i've got to go. i wish you the best of luck. | Oct 29 04:12 |
| *Ender2070 (n=ender207@bas3-toronto63-1088756701.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 04:17 | |
| *_Hicham_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) | Oct 29 04:24 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Rep Rick Larsen (D-WA2) sells out to telecoms http://ur1.ca/ep0x #NetNeutrality | Oct 29 05:17 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Rick Larsen opposes net neutrality « Uncle Mikes Weblog .::. Size~: 12.79 KB | Oct 29 05:18 |
| *Ender2070 has quit (Remote closed the connection) | Oct 29 05:30 | |
| *DaemonFC has quit ("Leaving") | Oct 29 05:41 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Texas Governor Rick Perry interferes in #death row case, shakes up state government to cover up evidence http://ur1.ca/ep36 @GovernorPerry | Oct 29 06:00 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Will Texas Execute Another Innocent Man? The Case of Reginald Blanton .::. Size~: 46.57 KB | Oct 29 06:01 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Texas @GovernorPerry interferes with #death row, no physical evidence linking executed Reginald Blanton to crime http://ur1.ca/ep36 | Oct 29 06:07 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Will Texas Execute Another Innocent Man? The Case of Reginald Blanton .::. Size~: 46.57 KB | Oct 29 06:08 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Rep Rick Larsen (D-WA2) sells out to telecoms http://ur1.ca/ep0x #NetNeutrality | Oct 29 06:33 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Rick Larsen opposes net neutrality « Uncle Mikes Weblog .::. Size~: 12.78 KB | Oct 29 06:34 |
| *oiaohm (n=oiaohm@196.158-212-203.dynamic.dsl.brs.iprimus.net.au) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 07:08 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] New Low Power FM stations has unanimous support of #FCC http://ur1.ca/ep5w cosponsor @USRepMikeDoyle interviewed http://ur1.ca/ep60 #hr1147 | Oct 29 07:19 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - FCC: Unanimous, bipartisan support for LPFM .::. Size~: 143.29 KB | Oct 29 07:20 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: House Advances Measure to Create Hundreds of New Low Power FM Radio Stations .::. Size~: 39.97 KB | Oct 29 07:20 |
| *amarsh04 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | Oct 29 07:50 | |
| *amarsh04 (n=amarsh04@ppp118-210-98-83.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 07:59 | |
| *PetoKraus (n=pk@fsf/member/petokraus) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 08:34 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Guidance for Putting #Vista / #Vista7 Alongside a #GNU #Linux Installation http://ur1.ca/ep9j | Oct 29 08:42 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Dual-Booting Linux And Windows: Easier Said than Done — Datamation.com .::. Size~: 71.13 KB | Oct 29 08:43 |
| *iKonaK (n=user-0@89.137.173.224) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 08:43 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Desktop #GNU #Linux Gains #iPhone and #iPod Touch Sync http://ur1.ca/ep9q http://ur1.ca/ep9r | Oct 29 08:44 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Unofficial iPhone and iPod touch Sync Coming to Linux | The iPhone Blog .::. Size~: 54.95 KB | Oct 29 08:45 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: iPhone and iPod Touch Unofficial Sync coming to Linux » Phone Reviews .::. Size~: 31.54 KB | Oct 29 08:45 |
| *iKonaK has quit (Client Quit) | Oct 29 08:47 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Kernel Space #Benchmarking Facility May Add #Windows Support to Show Its Weaknesses http://ur1.ca/ep9v | Oct 29 08:51 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: [Phoronix] Phoronix Test Suite 2.2 Enters Beta .::. Size~: 19.45 KB | Oct 29 08:52 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Showcase for Graphics Applications in #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/epa9 http://ur1.ca/epaa http://ur1.ca/epab | Oct 29 08:54 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Learn image manipulation and create a glassy wallpaper on GIMP LINUX For You Magazine .::. Size~: 87.84 KB | Oct 29 08:55 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Penguin Pete's Blog .::. Size~: 23.64 KB | Oct 29 08:55 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNOME Desktop Environment Looks for Marketing Opportunities http://www.silwenae.org/blog/?p=1240 | Oct 29 08:56 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: paul cutlers blog » Blog Archive » GNOME Marketing Hackfest .::. Size~: 29.4 KB | Oct 29 08:57 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Slackware Steps up to #KDE4 , More Good #KDE News http://ur1.ca/epb5 http://ur1.ca/epb7 http://ur1.ca/epb9 | Oct 29 09:03 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Sabayon #Gnu #Linux 5.0 Works and Looks Good http://bit.ly/4DFbax | Oct 29 09:03 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: KDE 4.3.2 now official in Slackware | Tuxopia .::. Size~: 18.24 KB | Oct 29 09:04 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Gluon Sprint Wrap-Up | KDE.news .::. Size~: 27.36 KB | Oct 29 09:04 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: A Window: E17 vs KDE 4.3.1 .::. Size~: 90.65 KB | Oct 29 09:04 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Raiden's Realm: Review: Sabayon Linux 5.0 .::. Size~: 29.78 KB | Oct 29 09:04 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Endian #Firewall 2.3 (GNU/Linux Distribution) is Released http://ur1.ca/epbc | Oct 29 09:05 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Endian Firewall 2.3 Includes Lots of New Features - An open source firewall distribution - Softpedia .::. Size~: 49.05 KB | Oct 29 09:06 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Debian #GNU #Linux Installed on 15W PC http://bit.ly/25WoRt | Oct 29 09:06 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: just:imho: Building a 15W Debian GNU/Linux system .::. Size~: 83.29 KB | Oct 29 09:07 |
| *magentar (n=magentar@ip-109-90-136-6.unitymediagroup.de) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 09:11 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Gets Postgres-savvy http://ur1.ca/epcd | Oct 29 09:18 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Guardian Reviews #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux, Compares it to #Vista7 http://ur1.ca/en7w | Oct 29 09:18 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: With eye on Oracle and MySQL, Red Hat invests in EnterpriseDB .::. Size~: 137.5 KB | Oct 29 09:19 |
| *jono (n=jono@91.189.88.12) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 09:19 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] #NetNeutrality again on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart http://ur1.ca/epcf old video two years ago http://ur1.ca/epcl | Oct 29 09:20 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #Interviews with #Ubuntu People lisati and Francis Lacoste http://ur1.ca/epcm http://ur1.ca/epcn | Oct 29 09:20 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Video: From Here to Neutrality | The Daily Show | Comedy Central .::. Size~: 68.6 KB | Oct 29 09:21 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Video: Net Neutrality Act | The Daily Show | Comedy Central .::. Size~: 55.92 KB | Oct 29 09:21 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: An Interview With lisati « Joe Blog's .::. Size~: 36.16 KB | Oct 29 09:21 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Launchpad Blog .::. Size~: 9.64 KB | Oct 29 09:21 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Screenshots of #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux 9.10 and Better Themes http://ur1.ca/epct http://ur1.ca/epcu http://ur1.ca/epcv | Oct 29 09:22 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Screenshots: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala Photo in Operating systems Reviews at ZDNet.co.uk - Page 1 .::. Size~: 97.98 KB | Oct 29 09:23 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Download Karmic Nights Theme | Ubuntu Geek .::. Size~: 37.9 KB | Oct 29 09:23 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Heaps of Coverage About #Ubuntu 9.10 Release http://ur1.ca/epcy http://ur1.ca/epcz http://ur1.ca/epd0 | Oct 29 09:24 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Ubuntu Ready for Another Crack at Netbooks | Mobility Site .::. Size~: 80.09 KB | Oct 29 09:25 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux Gets Attention as a #Server http://ur1.ca/epd2 http://ur1.ca/epd5 | Oct 29 09:25 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Canonical Prepares Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud Training for VARs | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 53.1 KB | Oct 29 09:26 |
| oiaohm | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2354848,00.asp Cheeper computers ? | Oct 29 09:31 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Xerox Claims Printable Electronics Breakthrough - Reviews by PC Magazine .::. Size~: 82.56 KB | Oct 29 09:31 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] "public" radio opposes public radio @NPR almost sole opposition local community low power FM http://ur1.ca/epdp http://freepress.net/lpfm | Oct 29 09:39 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: H.R. 1147: Local Community Radio Act of 2009 (GovTrack.us) .::. Size~: 39.62 KB | Oct 29 09:40 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Support Low Power FM Radio | Free Press .::. Size~: 20.13 KB | Oct 29 09:40 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux Targeted by 100-Core Beast http://ur1.ca/epdy http://ur1.ca/epe2 | Oct 29 09:43 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: 100-Core Processor on Tap - Getting Started and Choosing a Distro News Story .::. Size~: 42.1 KB | Oct 29 09:43 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: New company promises 100 core CPUs by next year .::. Size~: 37.89 KB | Oct 29 09:43 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nokia 's Linux Phones Show Promise as #Smartphones Market Grows http://ur1.ca/eped http://ur1.ca/epee | Oct 29 09:44 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Analyst: Nokia planning Maemo iPhone competitor - FierceWireless .::. Size~: 42.08 KB | Oct 29 09:45 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Android Grows Fast at the Expense of #Windows http://ur1.ca/epeg http://ur1.ca/epei http://ur1.ca/epek | Oct 29 09:47 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Linux News: Mobile: Droid Steps Out of the Shadows .::. Size~: 64.06 KB | Oct 29 09:48 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft, Google and the Bear - Bits Blog - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 70.35 KB | Oct 29 09:48 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Mot, Verizon announce Android phone - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 67.53 KB | Oct 29 09:48 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] watch out for small fast space rocks http://is.gd/4GWk7 http://is.gd/4GWln | Oct 29 09:51 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Asteroid blast reveals holes in Earth's defences - space - 26 October 2009 - New Scientist .::. Size~: 109.56 KB | Oct 29 09:52 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Asteroid explosion over Indonesia raises fears about Earth's defences - Telegraph .::. Size~: 52.93 KB | Oct 29 09:52 |
| *Diablo-D3 has quit ("do coders dream of sheep()?") | Oct 29 09:54 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] AGPLv3-licensed Identi.ca's Owners Hit the Jackpot http://ur1.ca/ek3v | Oct 29 09:55 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: StatusNet (Of Identi.ca Fame) Raises $875,000 To Become The WordPress Of Microblogging .::. Size~: 92.3 KB | Oct 29 09:56 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Embraced by #Voting Systems Industry http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/10/sequoia/ | Oct 29 09:59 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: In Industry First, Voting Machine Company to Publish Source Code | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 80.65 KB | Oct 29 10:00 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Europe is Gradually Moving to #FreeSoftware , Latest Wins... http://ur1.ca/epfg http://ur1.ca/epfh | Oct 29 10:00 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: LT: Government considers switching to open source — .::. Size~: 26.9 KB | Oct 29 10:01 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: IS: One in four secondary schools to join open source project — .::. Size~: 27.19 KB | Oct 29 10:01 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #SeaMonkey 2.0 is Released and #Mozilla Makes Huge Gains http://ur1.ca/epfj http://ur1.ca/epfk | Oct 29 10:01 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Mozilla releases SeaMonkey 2.0 - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 31.08 KB | Oct 29 10:02 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Firefox gains 30 million users in eight weeks | Webware - CNET .::. Size~: 154.15 KB | Oct 29 10:02 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RichardStallman to #Present at #GCOS http://gcos.info/ funny: http://ur1.ca/epfr | Oct 29 10:06 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Geek And Poke: Evereybody Loves Windows 7 - Part 2 (RMS Error) .::. Size~: 41.38 KB | Oct 29 10:07 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] United States #Government (DoD) Writes Memo in Favour of #FreeSoftware http://ur1.ca/epg2 http://ur1.ca/epg4 | Oct 29 10:08 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Finally! SecDef signs Clarifying Guidance Regarding Open Source Software | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 37.36 KB | Oct 29 10:09 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: David A. Wheeler's Blog .::. Size~: 9.3 KB | Oct 29 10:09 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Government of #Indonesia Pushed by Its People to Embrace #FreeSoftware http://ur1.ca/epg6 | Oct 29 10:09 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Indonesian Government Urged to Move to Open Source Software - The Jakarta Globe .::. Size~: 34.45 KB | Oct 29 10:10 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Ideals Keep Inspiring Freedom of Data http://ur1.ca/epgf http://ur1.ca/epgg | Oct 29 10:10 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Open Knowledge Foundation Blog » Blog Archive » Open data on cities: an international round up .::. Size~: 30.22 KB | Oct 29 10:11 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: open...: Biophysical Economics: A Different View .::. Size~: 94.15 KB | Oct 29 10:11 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Another Huge Win for #Ogg #Theora, #Mozilla Jubilant http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/?p=1475 #playogg | Oct 29 10:11 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Christopher Blizzard · another top 20 website supports Theora .::. Size~: 51.2 KB | Oct 29 10:12 |
| oiaohm | http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2009/10/27/white_house_goes_open_source.html LOL What webserver. | Oct 29 10:16 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: White House goes Open Source - Netcraft .::. Size~: 16.43 KB | Oct 29 10:16 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Project Sued by Intellectual Monopolist http://techdirt.com/articles/20091028/0159066702.shtml | Oct 29 10:21 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Google Sued Over Patents On Open Source Code | Techdirt .::. Size~: 74.7 KB | Oct 29 10:22 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @picturecool What Kind of Artist are You? [pic] #photo http://bit.ly/3b8fZS | Oct 29 10:26 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: 2.jpg (image) .::. Size~: 0.34 KB | Oct 29 10:27 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Despite Pressure from #MI5 , #IntellectualMonopolies Earn Right to UK Internet http://ur1.ca/elqs http://ur1.ca/eph8 | Oct 29 10:27 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: MI5 comes out against cutting off internet pirates - Times Online .::. Size~: 112.54 KB | Oct 29 10:27 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Open Rights Group | Mandelson gives go ahead to ‘three strikes’ .::. Size~: 21.62 KB | Oct 29 10:28 |
| *wallc (i=62a521f3@gateway/web/freenode/x-jbebaetzcghnmdiv) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 10:36 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedOffice Ported to #GNU #Linux http://bit.ly/GhkdZ | Oct 29 10:36 | |
| wallc | Wide awake at 3:33AM...just shoot me... | Oct 29 10:36 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: 500 Internal Server Error .::. Size~: 0.71 KB | Oct 29 10:37 |
| schestowitz | wallc: daemonfc has a pistol, I don't | Oct 29 10:43 |
| oiaohm | So don't send you some great stay awake techno to listern to wallc | Oct 29 10:44 |
| oiaohm | http://news.netcraft.com/ Like the new whitehouse web server anwser schestowitz | Oct 29 10:48 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Netcraft Ltd - Internet Research, Anti-Phishing and PCI Security Services .::. Size~: 45.9 KB | Oct 29 10:48 |
| wallc | :) Daemon with a pistol is such a reassuring thought. | Oct 29 10:49 |
| wallc | oiaohm, listening to techno might just be enough to put me back to sleep...lol. | Oct 29 10:50 |
| oiaohm | I have some nasties. Varablle beat versions. Very hard to sleep with. | Oct 29 10:52 |
| wallc | I think my problem is that tomorrow is my birthday...uge. | Oct 29 10:54 |
| wallc | I'm still trying to adjust to old age... | Oct 29 10:55 |
| wallc | makes me grumpy...lol | Oct 29 10:55 |
| wallc | :) | Oct 29 10:55 |
| wallc | too grumpy to sleep. | Oct 29 10:56 |
| fewa | Server: White House | Oct 29 10:57 |
| wallc | On average, GNU/Linux users paid almost double the amount as MS Windows users. http://bit.ly/36RdM1 | Oct 29 11:08 |
| oiaohm | also note the percentages. | Oct 29 11:10 |
| fewa | for what? software :P | Oct 29 11:10 |
| fewa | o wait | Oct 29 11:11 |
| fewa | :0 | Oct 29 11:11 |
| *chm (n=chm@dslb-084-057-201-124.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 11:16 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, I saw the Netcraft thing | Oct 29 11:18 |
| schestowitz | wallc: links added: http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php/OEM_hit_list | Oct 29 11:19 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: OEM hit list - Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 26.27 KB | Oct 29 11:19 |
| wallc | That wiki page looks nice, great links on there...love the HP quote: "If we had the choice of another supplier, based on your actions in this area, I assure you would not be our supplier of choice." | Oct 29 11:22 |
| oiaohm | http://www.blendernation.com/graphicall-org-troubles/ This makes what happen to boycottnovell look like a minor pest. | Oct 29 11:25 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: GraphicAll.org troubles | BlenderNation .::. Size~: 25.35 KB | Oct 29 11:25 |
| wallc | Did anyone ever find that $10,000 that MS "buried" on the Internet? | Oct 29 11:26 |
| oiaohm | If they did no one owned up to it. | Oct 29 11:30 |
| wallc | I've been searching to see if there were any announcements of anyone finding it. So far, nothing. | Oct 29 11:33 |
| oiaohm | Really who would want to own up to using IE. | Oct 29 11:33 |
| wallc | that's what i was thinking too. | Oct 29 11:34 |
| oiaohm | http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?t=158258 Now this has to be the strangest form of computer golf I have found. | Oct 29 11:34 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Megagolf - Blender Artists Forums .::. Size~: 149.69 KB | Oct 29 11:34 |
| *Tallken has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) | Oct 29 11:35 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenDocument Format ( #ODF ) Now Officially a #Malaysian Standard http://ping.fm/Y9Bb8 | Oct 29 11:45 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: OpenDocument Format (ODF) Now Officially a Malaysian Standard | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 119.87 KB | Oct 29 11:46 |
| oiaohm | http://www.daniweb.com/news/story233943.html Hmmm | Oct 29 11:46 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: It's On! Ubuntu and Microsoft Going to the Mat - Window and Desktop Managers News Story .::. Size~: 57.53 KB | Oct 29 11:46 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: BN was never cracked | Oct 29 11:47 |
| schestowitz | Just DDoSed | Oct 29 11:47 |
| oiaohm | I know schestowitz | Oct 29 11:47 |
| schestowitz | Blender seems to have other issues | Oct 29 11:47 |
| schestowitz | Maybe spam even | Oct 29 11:47 |
| oiaohm | graphic all is blenders test bed for new versions. | Oct 29 11:47 |
| oiaohm | It being disrupted is a major problem. | Oct 29 11:47 |
| oiaohm | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/10/games-you-cant-play-the-early-copies-of-borderlands.ars This should make windows gamers worry. | Oct 29 11:50 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] younger teen just came in showing off her home snakebite labret piercings, done herself at 3:30 last night. AGH KIDS. | Oct 29 11:50 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Games you can't play: the early copies of Borderlands - Ars Technica .::. Size~: 43.54 KB | Oct 29 11:50 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] oh, and said younger teen has looked up aftercare etc so is doing stupid things smartly. claire's have proper surgical steel backs etc. | Oct 29 12:01 | |
| wallc | I'm glad I didn't have to deal with piercings when my kids were growing up...but they do have a few tattoos. | Oct 29 12:05 |
| wallc | it was funny, my youngest tried to hide his tattoos for years...he thought i didn't already know about them. | Oct 29 12:06 |
| wallc | :) moms know everything. | Oct 29 12:06 |
| *chm has quit (Remote closed the connection) | Oct 29 12:18 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Tries to Use #Eclipse for Microsoft Lock-in http://ping.fm/Y2WSk #silverlie | Oct 29 12:27 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft Tries to Use Eclipse for Microsoft Lock-in | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 113.4 KB | Oct 29 12:28 |
| oiaohm | http://www.technologyreview.com/computing/23821/page1/ This is a worring idea. | Oct 29 12:37 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Technology Review: Software That Fixes Itself .::. Size~: 67.39 KB | Oct 29 12:37 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Honoring the dead @AlanGrayson Part 1. http://ur1.ca/epr0 2. http://ur1.ca/epr5 3. http://ur1.ca/epr7 4. http://ur1.ca/epr8 #hc #singlepayer | Oct 29 13:00 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - Congressman Alan Grayson Honors the Dead: Part One .::. Size~: 172.37 KB | Oct 29 13:01 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - Congressman Alan Grayson Honors the Dead: Part Two .::. Size~: 171.94 KB | Oct 29 13:01 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - Congressman Alan Grayson Honors the Dead: Part Three .::. Size~: 173.52 KB | Oct 29 13:01 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - Congressman Alan Grayson Honors the Dead: Part Four .::. Size~: 171.85 KB | Oct 29 13:01 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] HOWTO: Hackintosh a Mini 10v to OS X 10.6, step by step http://is.gd/4H6K2 | Oct 29 13:11 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: How To: Hackintosh a Dell Mini 10v Into the Ultimate Snow Leopard Netbook - Dell mini 10v hackintosh - Gizmodo .::. Size~: 76.78 KB | Oct 29 13:12 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NotN: Drugs chairman controversially states the bleeding obvious http://notnews.today.com/?p=706 (HT @ciphergoth for title) | Oct 29 13:22 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Drugs chairman controversially states the bleeding obvious - News of the News .::. Size~: 34.66 KB | Oct 29 13:23 |
| wallc | Alan Grayson's videos are quite painful to watch...i haven't had health insurance for 15 years. | Oct 29 13:28 |
| oiaohm | http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/10/microsoft-selling-crapware-free-pcs-in-its-stores.ars Hmm depends on your define of crap. | Oct 29 13:30 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft selling crapware-free PCs in its stores - Ars Technica .::. Size~: 47.01 KB | Oct 29 13:30 |
| wallc | does that mean Microsoft is now in the hardware business? | Oct 29 13:32 |
| wallc | (I just read it, apparently they have partners) | Oct 29 13:32 |
| wallc | I'm hoping to visit the Scottsdale store this weekend | Oct 29 13:33 |
| oiaohm | MS is basically one step off fully double crossing there partners | Oct 29 13:33 |
| wallc | (among other stores, of course) | Oct 29 13:33 |
| oiaohm | Lot of stores are partners to MS. | Oct 29 13:34 |
| oiaohm | With adveristing and other things. | Oct 29 13:34 |
| schestowitz | Let them... | Oct 29 13:35 |
| schestowitz | Also, Microhard will bleed just building those stores, like DCs | Oct 29 13:36 |
| schestowitz | They built DCs, but nobody comes | Oct 29 13:36 |
| schestowitz | Bong didn't make any gains really | Oct 29 13:36 |
| oiaohm | Big thing that people are not noticing is stuff like this. http://www.abisource.com/ Web integration focused on collab | Oct 29 13:38 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: AbiWord .::. Size~: 7.7 KB | Oct 29 13:38 |
| treestrump | BING "Bing Is No Google" | Oct 29 13:39 |
| oiaohm | BING equals dead. | Oct 29 13:39 |
| oiaohm | http://steveire.wordpress.com/2009/10/24/akonadi-goes-web2-0/ Also like this. akonadi will not suffer from the problems of exchange and owa. | Oct 29 13:42 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Akonadi goes Web2.0 « Steveires Blog .::. Size~: 31.45 KB | Oct 29 13:42 |
| oiaohm | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/26/dell_linux_windows_ubuntu/ LOL Dell is still having site problems. | Oct 29 13:47 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Dell unveils exclusive Microsoft-branded Ubuntu OS • The Register .::. Size~: 29.01 KB | Oct 29 13:47 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Comes : #Microsoft’s Push-Polling in Order to Exclude Rival Web #Browsers from #Windows http://ping.fm/OI773 | Oct 29 13:47 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Comes: Microsofts Push-Polling in Order to Exclude Rival Web Browsers from Windows | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 133.62 KB | Oct 29 13:48 |
| wallc | well, I'm going to get my work finished early today and take the rest of the weekend off. | Oct 29 13:49 |
| wallc | bye for now | Oct 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz | Thanks | Oct 29 13:49 |
| wallc | :) | Oct 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: it's not news | Oct 29 13:49 |
| *wallc has quit ("Page closed") | Oct 29 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | Microsoft still uses the same tricks and here we've shown that Bill Gates et al are at least partly accountable for the push-polling strategy | Oct 29 13:52 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft used this poll trickery against ODF/for OOXML, against Novell deal opposition (it conducted the survey), and against the Yahoo/Google deal. | Oct 29 13:53 |
| schestowitz | "There is also an option to install to USB device using the 'USB | Oct 29 13:55 |
| schestowitz | startup disk creator'. A safer option if you don't want to mess with | Oct 29 13:55 |
| schestowitz | your system", davers232 | Oct 29 13:55 |
| schestowitz | "I use the USB install option to have a portable installation that | Oct 29 13:55 |
| schestowitz | will run on any Intel-based computer. However, I haven't got it to | Oct 29 13:55 |
| schestowitz | work on 9.10 yet. I hope it works again with the proper release on | Oct 29 13:55 |
| schestowitz | Thursday", KevinAnderson | Oct 29 13:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2009/oct/27/ubuntu-koala-windows7-review?commentpage=1 | Oct 29 13:55 |
| schestowitz | - unquote - | Oct 29 13:55 |
| schestowitz | Is this true, get hold of Ubuntu 9.10 and see if it will install to a USB | Oct 29 13:55 |
| schestowitz | Has anyone tried? | Oct 29 13:55 |
| *zer0c00l (n=user@117.207.68.157) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 13:56 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Congress Financial Services committee with banker insider Treasury secretary Timothy Geithner live on @CSPAN3 http://ur1.ca/e7xr | Oct 29 13:56 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Congress Financial Services committee with banker insider Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner live on @CSPAN 3 http://ur1.ca/e7xr #bailout | Oct 29 13:59 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: http://www.h-online.com/open/features/In-re-Bilski-Let-us-get-back-to-work-837618.html | Oct 29 14:00 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: In re Bilski - Let us get back to work - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 35.34 KB | Oct 29 14:00 |
| schestowitz | If swpats die, Microsoft might too | Oct 29 14:00 |
| schestowitz | No FUD | Oct 29 14:00 |
| oiaohm | Swpats live MS might die too. | Oct 29 14:01 |
| fewa | they will still sell their inferior software | Oct 29 14:01 |
| oiaohm | Simple problem here in a patent war the stock pile open source supports have is scary. | Oct 29 14:01 |
| oiaohm | A patent war with the current stock piles would be a mad event. | Oct 29 14:02 |
| oiaohm | Even with all MS billions there may not be enough money or time to cover the case. | Oct 29 14:03 |
| fewa | oiaohm, a patent war is an suicide wish | Oct 29 14:04 |
| oiaohm | Its exactly what MS is risking using there patents against open source. | Oct 29 14:05 |
| fewa | it will self destruct the system | Oct 29 14:05 |
| fewa | should how absurd it is | Oct 29 14:05 |
| fewa | the lawyers dont want it | Oct 29 14:05 |
| fewa | they just want to allude to a threat of it | Oct 29 14:06 |
| fewa | job security | Oct 29 14:06 |
| oiaohm | Nokia vs Apple at the moment is a minor powered keg. | Oct 29 14:07 |
| *gmzlj (n=simongmz@CPE00223f7552ad-CM00223a6ef767.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 14:16 | |
| schestowitz | [14:05] <oiaohm> Its exactly what MS is risking using there patents against open source. | Oct 29 14:19 |
| schestowitz | It's already using them | Oct 29 14:19 |
| schestowitz | For FUD, not legal attacks | Oct 29 14:19 |
| schestowitz | Also for extortions behind closed doots | Oct 29 14:20 |
| schestowitz | *doors | Oct 29 14:20 |
| schestowitz | *from companies they use Linux | Oct 29 14:20 |
| schestowitz | They must say "No". Microsoft would not sue them as that would go public and lead to a riot | Oct 29 14:20 |
| oiaohm | Sooner or latter someone will call MS. | Oct 29 14:21 |
| oiaohm | The problem with playing a bluff you only get to do it for so long. | Oct 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Microsoft-and-Eclipse-form-partnership-for-improved-interoperability-844231.html?view=print | Oct 29 14:22 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft and Eclipse form partnership for improved interoperability - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 10.43 KB | Oct 29 14:22 |
| oiaohm | desperation. | Oct 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | Hmmm... I didn't know it had print layout. I would link to that now | Oct 29 14:22 |
| oiaohm | Remember for a long time MS would not support open source ide's. | Oct 29 14:23 |
| schestowitz | They can't spread Silver Lie | Oct 29 14:23 |
| schestowitz | People don't make content for it | Oct 29 14:23 |
| schestowitz | Unless Microsoft pays for some videos to go under it | Oct 29 14:23 |
| oiaohm | Even then they are resistant to doing it. | Oct 29 14:24 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxcertified.com/embedded-linux-training.html | Oct 29 14:24 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Embedded and Real Time Linux Training - Development and AdministrationClasses .::. Size~: 13.83 KB | Oct 29 14:24 |
| oiaohm | I have been around too long. I saw the fall of apple and OS. | Oct 29 14:24 |
| oiaohm | OS/2 | Oct 29 14:24 |
| schestowitz | But Apple was never dominant | Oct 29 14:24 |
| oiaohm | Apple was dominate in video and graphical work schestowitz | Oct 29 14:25 |
| oiaohm | And music. | Oct 29 14:25 |
| oiaohm | Ok not total domination like MS has but still segment of market domination. | Oct 29 14:25 |
| oiaohm | OS/2 and Apple both fell from there position of power because they were too expensive and got undercut. | Oct 29 14:27 |
| schestowitz | http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/46840 | Oct 29 14:28 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft Linux: Why one free software advocate wants it | NetworkWorld.com Community .::. Size~: 115.1 KB | Oct 29 14:28 |
| oiaohm | Note he is a X MS personal schestowitz. | Oct 29 14:28 |
| schestowitz | "free software advocate"= Microsoft employee | Oct 29 14:28 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: I know | Oct 29 14:28 |
| schestowitz | That's why I'm suspicious of these people | Oct 29 14:29 |
| schestowitz | This music track I listen to now has played almost 1000 times in one week, according to amarok. Going for a record... | Oct 29 14:30 |
| schestowitz | Not intolerable yet. | Oct 29 14:30 |
| oiaohm | No its more worring for MS what they are saying. | Oct 29 14:30 |
| schestowitz | I guess so | Oct 29 14:31 |
| oiaohm | They all have the same words. They don't think the internals of windows is fixable. | Oct 29 14:31 |
| *Tallken (n=f2f93bf5@2001:690:2380:7770:21b:24ff:fed0:3f98) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 14:31 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1560225/sony-recalls-vaio-power-bricks | Oct 29 14:31 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: they aren't | Oct 29 14:31 |
| oiaohm | Big question is should we doubt that. | Oct 29 14:31 |
| *Will (i=4c724679@gateway/web/freenode/session) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 14:32 | |
| schestowitz | Microsoft admits Vista screwed - report http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1006178/microsoft-admits-vista-screwed-report | Oct 29 14:32 |
| schestowitz | The new uber-OS hasn't even been officially launched to the mass market but Microsoft admits it has high impact issues and has already started work on Vista SP1, which is now due in the second half of this year. http://apcmag.com/vista_service_pack_1_is_coming.htm | Oct 29 14:32 |
| schestowitz | Hehe. | Oct 29 14:33 |
| schestowitz | They called VIsta "uber-OS" | Oct 29 14:33 |
| schestowitz | Just after it was released :-) :-) | Oct 29 14:33 |
| schestowitz | Sounds familiar? | Oct 29 14:33 |
| Will | Well, considering all the upgrade/install problems with 7, I think we can officially say that Win7 is harder to install than LInux. | Oct 29 14:33 |
| schestowitz | Will: BUT... | Oct 29 14:33 |
| schestowitz | It was YOUR idea | Oct 29 14:33 |
| oiaohm | In the next 12 month cycle presure on MS will get extream. | Oct 29 14:34 |
| schestowitz | Na... waste of PR money | Oct 29 14:34 |
| schestowitz | They have already exhausted it | Oct 29 14:34 |
| oiaohm | Most closed source game companies are stoping making games for windows. | Oct 29 14:34 |
| schestowitz | Vista 7 gets no special coverage anymore. | Oct 29 14:34 |
| schestowitz | Vista got tons more, for weeks | Oct 29 14:34 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: consoles instead? | Oct 29 14:34 |
| oiaohm | Closed source game companies are moving to the consoles and phones. | Oct 29 14:34 |
| Will | schestowitz: lol! You know, the sad thing is, this is yet one more example of Microsoft copying and mangling something from their competitors. In a sense, Linux actually IS the users' ideas. | Oct 29 14:34 |
| Will | Since the users are also the developers | Oct 29 14:35 |
| schestowitz | Bungie, Ensemble, Flight Simulator, FASA.... kaput | Oct 29 14:35 |
| schestowitz | THey can make OK games, but no profit | Oct 29 14:35 |
| Will | why bother for PC anymore when you can just make it for Xbox? | Oct 29 14:35 |
| oiaohm | The issue with releasing on windows is too may pirates and cheats. | Oct 29 14:35 |
| schestowitz | Will: KDE4 has done the taskbar thing for ages | Oct 29 14:35 |
| schestowitz | It's a direct copy, but kde4 does it better | Oct 29 14:35 |
| oiaohm | Also people are missing something else. | Oct 29 14:36 |
| schestowitz | It's not a major feature either | Oct 29 14:36 |
| schestowitz | I don't use the taskbar, hardly | Oct 29 14:36 |
| schestowitz | I use virtual desktops to swap apps | Oct 29 14:36 |
| oiaohm | Look at the closed source games being released how many are being designed to take mods. | Oct 29 14:36 |
| schestowitz | taskbar is good for grouping of windows and toggling | Oct 29 14:36 |
| oiaohm | Most are not. | Oct 29 14:36 |
| schestowitz | But Windows [[l]users minimise and mazimise | Oct 29 14:36 |
| oiaohm | World of closed source PC gaming is ending. | Oct 29 14:36 |
| schestowitz | The idea of workspaces is alien to them | Oct 29 14:36 |
| schestowitz | Longhorn had them.... got too piggy, then dropped | Oct 29 14:36 |
| oiaohm | What is Windows biggest selling point. Games. | Oct 29 14:36 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it's not X-like... so too messay | Oct 29 14:37 |
| schestowitz | *messy | Oct 29 14:37 |
| Will | schestowitz: I saw some microblogs putting forth the "Win7 was my idea" theme before the commercials even came out. Thought it odd at the time. Makes sense now. | Oct 29 14:37 |
| schestowitz | Even Leopard got Spaces | Oct 29 14:37 |
| schestowitz | And in Vista 7 Microsoft STILL offered nothing new | Oct 29 14:37 |
| schestowitz | It had 2-3 years to retry WinFS | Oct 29 14:37 |
| oiaohm | They don't have 2-3 years to get WinFS out. | Oct 29 14:37 |
| schestowitz | Will: Shill Andre Thomas too | Oct 29 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft worked with Andrew | Oct 29 14:38 |
| schestowitz | He bragged about it | Oct 29 14:38 |
| oiaohm | The systems being intergrated into KDE at current rate will pass what WinFS offers. | Oct 29 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Like, "Office 2010 is MY idea" | Oct 29 14:38 |
| *gargoyle-grin (n=randerso@gentoo/contributor/gargoyle-grin) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 14:38 | |
| schestowitz | This is a good way to buy shill sites masquerading as new | Oct 29 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Now we have Andrew attacking Linux, to defend 'his' idea | Oct 29 14:39 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: does V7 has Nepomuk-like functionality | Oct 29 14:39 |
| schestowitz | Stringi | Oct 29 14:39 |
| oiaohm | Nepomuk functionality is modeled off what WinFS promised to offer. | Oct 29 14:40 |
| schestowitz | But WinFS was not the first concept | Oct 29 14:40 |
| *desudesudesu (n=desu@unaffiliated/desu) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 14:40 | |
| oiaohm | All it needs it to be combind with a filesystem like btrfs. | Oct 29 14:40 |
| schestowitz | Just more inheritance of ideas that Linux had before tha | Oct 29 14:40 |
| oiaohm | WinFS idea dates from nt 4.0 | Oct 29 14:40 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, I know | Oct 29 14:40 |
| schestowitz | btrfs will have time slider too | Oct 29 14:41 |
| schestowitz | like zfs | Oct 29 14:41 |
| oiaohm | Windows 2000 was meant to have Win | Oct 29 14:41 |
| oiaohm | WinFS | Oct 29 14:41 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft's "idea" is to stick with NTFS | Oct 29 14:41 |
| schestowitz | Even Apple is hiring FS engineers now | Oct 29 14:41 |
| schestowitz | They intend to actually develop something | Oct 29 14:41 |
| schestowitz | Not just nick 'free' code | Oct 29 14:41 |
| Will | R.I.P ZFS... | Oct 29 14:41 |
| Will | and long live btrfs | Oct 29 14:42 |
| schestowitz | Aad put Aqua 'crust' on it | Oct 29 14:42 |
| oiaohm | ZFS had design flaws so who cares. | Oct 29 14:42 |
| schestowitz | Without patents, Linux would use zfs | Oct 29 14:42 |
| schestowitz | There would be no btrfs probably | Oct 29 14:42 |
| oiaohm | Both way endlin screwed zfs | Oct 29 14:42 |
| oiaohm | Really no schestowitz orcale was prepaird to document and build zfs clean. | Oct 29 14:43 |
| schestowitz | This shows you that software patents are ALL ABOUT INNOVATION | Oct 29 14:43 |
| schestowitz | INNOVA~1 INNOVA~1 INNOVA~1 | Oct 29 14:43 |
| oiaohm | But as the worked out how zfs worked they decided better built a new filesystem. | Oct 29 14:43 |
| oiaohm | SUN had made some bad selections for performance. | Oct 29 14:43 |
| oiaohm | Ok who is really going to use 2 different cpu endlin types with a filesystem. | Oct 29 14:44 |
| oiaohm | On a non removeable drive. | Oct 29 14:44 |
| *desu has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | Oct 29 14:44 | |
| schestowitz | INNOVA~1 | Oct 29 14:45 |
| Will | schestowitz: kinda makes you wonder how the first wheel was ever invented without a patent system to spur innovation, huh? | Oct 29 14:45 |
| schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8331290.stm | Oct 29 14:45 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 76.86 KB | Oct 29 14:45 |
| gmzlj | schestowitz, i don't know. zfs is also one of the few things going for solaris vs linux | Oct 29 14:45 |
| schestowitz | AND DTRACE | Oct 29 14:45 |
| schestowitz | Oops. | Oct 29 14:45 |
| schestowitz | Caps accidental | Oct 29 14:46 |
| oiaohm | Dtrace and container tech called zones that solaris had were its key advantages. | Oct 29 14:46 |
| oiaohm | But after 2.6.32 ie next Linux kernel most of the advantage of Dtrace will be gone. | Oct 29 14:47 |
| oiaohm | perf system in the Linux kernel will be providing even more details than Dtrace does. | Oct 29 14:47 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/blogs/bentley/report-outlines-harmonizing-regulation-of-securities-futures/?cs=37072 | Oct 29 14:48 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Report Outlines 'Harmonizing' Regulation of Securities, Futures | Blogs | ITBusinessEdge.com .::. Size~: 80.98 KB | Oct 29 14:48 |
| oiaohm | container in linux called cgroups are going to take longer to catch solarias zones. Particularly the branded class for cloning other OS's. | Oct 29 14:48 |
| Will | new Ubuntu's out now. Server's are getting hammered as usual. | Oct 29 14:49 |
| *desudesudesu is now known as desu | Oct 29 14:49 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Official Ubuntu 9.10 release announcement:- http://bit.ly/2kFKb3 | Oct 29 14:51 | |
| oiaohm | http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910 Now that will be interesting to test if 256 megs is workable. | Oct 29 14:53 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: 9.10 Release Notes | Ubuntu .::. Size~: 63.04 KB | Oct 29 14:53 |
| *DaemonFC (i=Ryan@c-69-245-242-208.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 14:54 | |
| *oiaohm has quit (Remote closed the connection) | Oct 29 15:01 | |
| *Tallken has quit (Operation timed out) | Oct 29 15:12 | |
| schestowitz | FraudStreet goes 'social' http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/WebpronewsTopNewsRssFeed/~3/OWHgZvGxe5g/nasdaq-launches-social-networking-site | Oct 29 15:14 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Google FeedBurner .::. Size~: 11.44 KB | Oct 29 15:14 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @popey Official Ubuntu 9.10 release announcement:- http://bit.ly/2kFKb3 | Oct 29 15:15 | |
| *gmzlj has quit ("Leaving") | Oct 29 15:19 | |
| *Will has quit ("Page closed") | Oct 29 15:21 | |
| DaemonFC | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125682351602615905.html | Oct 29 15:22 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: House Health Bill Has Compromise on Public Option - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 111.38 KB | Oct 29 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | House passes fraudulant healthcare reform | Oct 29 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | bend over for the insurance companies, now you HAVE to buy their insurance | Oct 29 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | oh, they didn't pass it, my mistake | Oct 29 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | oh well, with all the Republicrats in the House, it will pass immediately | Oct 29 15:23 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/29/eborders_eurostar/ | Oct 29 15:24 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Eurostar frustrated by 'illegal' e-Borders scheme • The Register .::. Size~: 28.13 KB | Oct 29 15:24 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, health care it a bummer | Oct 29 15:24 |
| schestowitz | Especially to people with conditions | Oct 29 15:25 |
| schestowitz | Meta-industry = insurance companies | Oct 29 15:25 |
| schestowitz | Industry = medical equiment | Oct 29 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, This so-called "reform" is just the government putting a gun to your head and making you give the insurance cartel all the money they want | Oct 29 15:25 |
| schestowitz | Knowledge workers = doctors | Oct 29 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | it's bullshit | Oct 29 15:25 |
| schestowitz | Medical ads = medical tax | Oct 29 15:25 |
| schestowitz | The tens of billions they spend on advertising are paid by /YOU/ | Oct 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | You pay for all those ads | Oct 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | It comprises... well, it's like 25% of the price of drugs you buy | Oct 29 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, You remember Lexx? | Oct 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | When you buy a drug to keep alive, you find ADVERTISERS | Oct 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | Welcome to reality :-) | Oct 29 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | that episode where Kai accidentally kills Stan and they have to go to that space hospital | Oct 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | s/find/fund/ | Oct 29 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | and the hospital refuses to treat him until they are paid | Oct 29 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | I always figured that was a swipe at our medical system | Oct 29 15:27 |
| schestowitz | There is too much waste in this system | Oct 29 15:27 |
| schestowitz | It's also provatised | Oct 29 15:27 |
| schestowitz | So you pay for people to do needles paperwork | Oct 29 15:28 |
| schestowitz | Waste, waste, watse... | Oct 29 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | the head surgeon is just a money grubber that performs a lot of unnecessary surgeries on people til they run out of money | Oct 29 15:28 |
| schestowitz | Bureaucracy | Oct 29 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | then he throws them out an airlock | Oct 29 15:28 |
| schestowitz | Life or bankruptcy | Oct 29 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | to hell with them | Oct 29 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not paying | Oct 29 15:29 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/29/picsel_again/ | Oct 29 15:29 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Reanimated Picsel lays off staff, plots with Samsung • The Register .::. Size~: 27 KB | Oct 29 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | they'd be saving both of us a lot of trouble to just write it off now | Oct 29 15:29 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/29/yahoo_microsoft_delayed/ | Oct 29 15:30 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Yahoo! Microsoft! deal! delayed! • The Register .::. Size~: 25.81 KB | Oct 29 15:30 |
| schestowitz | Bong is stuvck | Oct 29 15:30 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: they would take your kidney while you're asleep | Oct 29 15:31 |
| schestowitz | Even Steven | Oct 29 15:31 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has just killed another product | Oct 29 15:32 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/29/msn_direct/ | Oct 29 15:32 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft ditches MSN Direct • The Register .::. Size~: 28.04 KB | Oct 29 15:32 |
| schestowitz | Sued Over Patents On Open Source Code | Oct 29 15:37 |
| schestowitz | http://www.information-management.com/news/computer_science_education_week_house_resolution-10016354-1.html | Oct 29 15:37 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Why Young Workers Don’t Care About Computer Science .::. Size~: 36.99 KB | Oct 29 15:37 |
| schestowitz | "Parents, drop the Disney fantasies and encourage your kids in the areas in which they show exceptional talent. If science and math are among those areas, let them know they can succeed and have fulfilling careers in related areas." | Oct 29 15:37 |
| schestowitz | Fancy PR BS... people want to be athletes and celebs | Oct 29 15:38 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://www.kansascity.com/105/story/1511401.html | Oct 29 15:40 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Lots of drivers challenging red-light camera tickets in KC - KansasCity.com .::. Size~: 69.98 KB | Oct 29 15:40 |
| *desu has quit ("Leaving") | Oct 29 15:41 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Twitter to ban parody-intended fakers http://ping.fm/s0J0e | Oct 29 15:42 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Twitter Banning Satirical 'Fake' Versions Of Politicians? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 57.11 KB | Oct 29 15:42 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] IBM's letter with the "software patents enables open source and open standards" fallacy quoted here: http://i5.be/Qr | Oct 29 15:43 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Abstractions and transformations - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 33.97 KB | Oct 29 15:44 |
| schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/20091028/1808416709.shtml | Oct 29 15:44 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: RIAA's Main Anti-Piracy Partner Appears Clueless About BitTorrent | Techdirt .::. Size~: 45.71 KB | Oct 29 15:44 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I talked to the "financial assistance counselor" at the hospital | Oct 29 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | I told her that they're going to have to write it off in the end, even if they sued me, so they may as well just work with me | Oct 29 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | they gave in after that | Oct 29 15:53 |
| schestowitz | http://powdermonkey.blogs.com/powdermonkey/2009/10/department-of-defense-new-guidance-on-open-source-software.html | Oct 29 15:53 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: powdermonkey: DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE NEW GUIDANCE ON OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE .::. Size~: 40.35 KB | Oct 29 15:53 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: poor doctots | Oct 29 15:54 |
| schestowitz | *doctors | Oct 29 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.moranlaw.net/socialsecurity.htm | Oct 29 15:54 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Social Security payment are safe from debt collectors .::. Size~: 9.22 KB | Oct 29 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | "If you look at what you own and your sources of income, it may be that everything you have is exempt. In that case, even if an unpaid creditor sued you, got a judgment and tried to use the law to collect its money, that creditor will get nothing." | Oct 29 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | "Most retirement plans, pensions, and 401(k) plans are also exempt from collection." | Oct 29 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | they were asking me if I had any retirement plan I could pay them out of | Oct 29 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | I just told them "no" | Oct 29 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | they asked me what kind of car I drove | Oct 29 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | a whole bunch of stuff, trying to size me up for a lawsuit to see if there's anything else they can take | Oct 29 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | I got really sarcastic at that point and told her "If you just wait another year or so, you might get someone to haul it away and pay you $50 for the scrap metal" | Oct 29 15:58 |
| schestowitz | Get ill, lose consciousness, lose car | Oct 29 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I don't think they're going to try to take my 1995 Ford Taurus | Oct 29 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | something just tells me | Oct 29 15:58 |
| schestowitz | !google 50 cent sued by doctor | Oct 29 15:59 |
| phIRCe-local | [1] - 50 CENT - DR DRE AND 50 CENT SUED | http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/story/dr-dre-and-50-cent-sued | Oct 29 15:59 |
| phIRCe-local | [2] - 50 Cent Sued For $5 Million After Backing Out Of Show - News Story ... | http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1471721/20030506/50_cent.jhtml | Oct 29 15:59 |
| phIRCe-local | [3] - Dr. Dre sued for copyright infringement | http://www.zeropaid.com/news/7194/dr_dre_sued_for_copyright_infringement/ | Oct 29 15:59 |
| phIRCe-local | [4] - Woman Sues Dr. Phil McGraw for Alleged Sexual Harassment ... | http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,562620,00.html | Oct 29 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | it must burn those people up that there's nothing they can sue me for | Oct 29 15:59 |
| schestowitz | Hmmmm... I can't quite find the right articl | Oct 29 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | it won't look good on my credit report | Oct 29 16:00 |
| *zer0c00l is now known as zer0c00l|Away | Oct 29 16:00 | |
| schestowitz | Some doctor who treated 50 cent after he had been shot demanded payments years later, when he became famous | Oct 29 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | but neither will the other things it's listed after | Oct 29 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 29 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, After they turn it over to a collection agency, it's not even worth paying unless you think they can sue you and take it anyway | Oct 29 16:01 |
| schestowitz | http://fossfaq.com/ | Oct 29 16:01 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: FOSS FAQ .::. Size~: 38.42 KB | Oct 29 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | paying a debt off after it's already in collections and hurt your credit rating won't fix your credit rating | Oct 29 16:02 |
| schestowitz | You should have gone to Guantanamo for treatment | Oct 29 16:03 |
| schestowitz | It's free there | Oct 29 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, in my case, sending it to collections just makes me feel relaxed that they can't do anything else | Oct 29 16:03 |
| schestowitz | Rendition too | Oct 29 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, My neighbor is so damned stupid | Oct 29 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | got divorced, ended up with $60,000 debt, right? | Oct 29 16:03 |
| schestowitz | Why? | Oct 29 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | so isntead of immediately filing bankruptcy, she pulls $20,000 out of her retirement, pays off some of the debt, now she's broke, $40,000 in debt, and missed the rent this week | Oct 29 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | that was like the worst thing she could possibly have done | Oct 29 16:04 |
| schestowitz | The financial situation in the US is alarming | Oct 29 16:05 |
| schestowitz | Well, no for everyone | Oct 29 16:05 |
| schestowitz | !google goldman sachs bonuses | Oct 29 16:05 |
| phIRCe-local | [1] - Business & Technology | Goldman Sachs bonus bonanza | Seattle ... | http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2009471723_goldmanearn15.html | Oct 29 16:05 |
| phIRCe-local | [2] - The Goldman Sachs Bonuses - Richard A. Posner | http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/richard_posner/2009/10/the_goldman_sachs_bonuses.php | Oct 29 16:05 |
| phIRCe-local | [3] - Goldman Sachs Bonuses: Columnist Says Analysts Predict $23 Billion ... | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/13/goldman-sachs-bonuses-col_n_318196.html | Oct 29 16:05 |
| phIRCe-local | [4] - Bonuses Put Goldman in Public Relations Bind - DealBook Blog ... | http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/16/bonuses-put-goldman-in-public-relations-bind/ | Oct 29 16:05 |
| schestowitz | They love your bailout ;-) | Oct 29 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, If I was her, I would have pulled out enough money to pay off my car, and enough to file bankruptcy | Oct 29 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | that would have been about $4,000 on the car and $1,000 for bankruptcy | Oct 29 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | then the court can't take her car cause it's needed so she can go to work | Oct 29 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | and they can't touch the rest of the $15,000 in the 401(k) | Oct 29 16:06 |
| schestowitz | Didja tell her? | Oct 29 16:06 |
| schestowitz | Don'y. | Oct 29 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | too late | Oct 29 16:06 |
| schestowitz | Don't. It's too late | Oct 29 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | she already fucked herself over before she moved in and I met her | Oct 29 16:07 |
| schestowitz | Would only lead to regrets and misery | Oct 29 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | yep, she's only lived here threee weeks | Oct 29 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | no money to pay the rent this week | Oct 29 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | sick with the swine flu | Oct 29 16:07 |
| schestowitz | Well, support each other | Oct 29 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | has to go to work anyway | Oct 29 16:07 |
| schestowitz | Meet thy neighbours | Oct 29 16:07 |
| schestowitz | Always good in tough times | Oct 29 16:07 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: physical work? | Oct 29 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | well, she works as a waitress, that's the problem | Oct 29 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | she was too sick to do that so they had her washing dishes | Oct 29 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | now she's caused a swine flu outbreak | Oct 29 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | and all the people she works with are getting it | Oct 29 16:08 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm was blogging today (rare) http://oiaohm.blogspot.com/2009/10/no-more-secrets.html | Oct 29 16:08 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Oiaohm Battle Ground: No More Secrets. .::. Size~: 61.95 KB | Oct 29 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'm not eating much of anything that isn't shrink wrapped | Oct 29 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Scary | Oct 29 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | I've been to McDonalds like twice in the last month | Oct 29 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Yesterday I watched a WW1 docu | Oct 29 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 29 16:09 |
| schestowitz | THey speak of deaths from flu | Oct 29 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, If I make it to Monday without getting Swine Flu, I'm in the clear | Oct 29 16:10 |
| schestowitz | Like 10% of the trained people died in the US training | Oct 29 16:10 |
| schestowitz | Flu break in the training camps before anti-biotics | Oct 29 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | I got the vaccine on Monday | Oct 29 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | it takes a week to kick in fully | Oct 29 16:10 |
| schestowitz | Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JOSpLMcmFc&NR=1 | Oct 29 16:10 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - Secrets of World War I (3 of 5) .::. Size~: 135.72 KB | Oct 29 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, antibiotics won't kill flu | Oct 29 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | influenza is a virus | Oct 29 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | thorough handwashing or those alcohol gels will both kill it | Oct 29 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | I've been pretty good about washing my hands or using GermX after touching anything suspicious | Oct 29 16:12 |
| schestowitz | Argue with the History Channel | Oct 29 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | just trying to hold it off while I develop the immunity | Oct 29 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | I have a fairly strong immune system anyway | Oct 29 16:13 |
| *schestowitz been hardly ill since age 15 | Oct 29 16:13 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, No harm in getting the vaccine | Oct 29 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | showing it what to kill | Oct 29 16:13 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=26606 | Oct 29 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 29 16:13 |
| schestowitz | It's easier for me to avoid infection | Oct 29 16:14 |
| schestowitz | I also have my own apartment, so... | Oct 29 16:14 |
| schestowitz | I became ill just once since age 15 | Oct 29 16:14 |
| schestowitz | Here: http://www.zermatterhof.ch/home.html | Oct 29 16:14 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Grand Hotel Zermatterhof - Home .::. Size~: 17.16 KB | Oct 29 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, it's painless, it's quick, it's free, why take chances? | Oct 29 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | *shrugs* | Oct 29 16:15 |
| schestowitz | There was an illness passing there | Oct 29 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Yes, the 1918 flu was unusually virulant | Oct 29 16:15 |
| schestowitz | I was among the victims, too. Suffered immensely for about 24 hours. Couldn't sleep even. | Oct 29 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | killed 20 million people | Oct 29 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | that's more than the Nazis and Communists put together | Oct 29 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | they say between 20-50 million | Oct 29 16:15 |
| schestowitz | WW1 had 9 million soldier fatalities | Oct 29 16:15 |
| schestowitz | I thought it was more | Oct 29 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | so people can laugh at the flu all they want | Oct 29 16:16 |
| schestowitz | And China slaughtered like 60 million | Oct 29 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | well, I should specify | Oct 29 16:16 |
| schestowitz | I think cleansing in Stalin's Russian was 40 million | Oct 29 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | more than the Nazis and the USSR put together | Oct 29 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Oct 29 16:16 |
| schestowitz | But illness is another matter, DaemonFC | Oct 29 16:16 |
| schestowitz | It's not natural causes | Oct 29 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | well, still, the high end of the estimate still outdoes them both | Oct 29 16:17 |
| schestowitz | Illness is preventable | Oct 29 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | but it's a lot of people dead of flu in any event | Oct 29 16:17 |
| schestowitz | Assuming the crooks who invest in patent cartels for drugs are pushed out | Oct 29 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, War is usually preventable | Oct 29 16:17 |
| schestowitz | Or put behind bars or something | Oct 29 16:17 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, exactluy | Oct 29 16:17 |
| schestowitz | That's the point I was making | Oct 29 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | out of all the wars the US has fought, the last one where we were actually attack was WWII | Oct 29 16:18 |
| DaemonFC | *attacked | Oct 29 16:18 |
| schestowitz | 'Attacked' | Oct 29 16:18 |
| schestowitz | Sunk ship | Oct 29 16:18 |
| schestowitz | The real attack on the US was 9/11 | Oct 29 16:18 |
| schestowitz | THe US is usually the initiator of aggression in the name of "defence" | Oct 29 16:18 |
| DaemonFC | the Japanese attack on Peral Harbor killed more than 3,000 people | Oct 29 16:18 |
| DaemonFC | *Pearl Harbor | Oct 29 16:19 |
| schestowitz | In South America it was "the Red Threat" which was used as excuse for expansion | Oct 29 16:19 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: oh yah | Oct 29 16:19 |
| schestowitz | Pearl Harbor | Oct 29 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | and destroyed several very expensive battleships in preparation for a much larger Japanese offensive | Oct 29 16:19 |
| schestowitz | forgot that one | Oct 29 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | we had every right to enter that war | Oct 29 16:19 |
| schestowitz | Alas, No excuse for atomic genocide | Oct 29 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Yes, their war machine was pretty much destroyed by the time we used the A-bomb | Oct 29 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | if we wanted to make a point, we should have targeted a large military facility | Oct 29 16:20 |
| treestrump | conventional bombing killed more in Japan | Oct 29 16:20 |
| *lordtoran (n=lordtora@dslb-088-078-092-186.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 16:21 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.enterprisestorageforum.com/technology/news/article.php/3845991 | Oct 29 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | the fact that our bombers got through was a testimony to how week the Japanese air force must have been by that time | Oct 29 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | *weak | Oct 29 16:21 |
| schestowitz | Air force=manned bombs | Oct 29 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | it's questionable how far they were from surrendering anyway | Oct 29 16:22 |
| schestowitz | Kamikaze | Oct 29 16:22 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: maybe Manhattan needed a real good experiment, to test their work on and scare Hitler | Oct 29 16:22 |
| schestowitz | Either way.. the US is the only ever to attack with nukes | Oct 29 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | Hitler was already dead | Oct 29 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | the Germans had already surrendered | Oct 29 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Except the explosions in the atmosphere and other tests | Oct 29 16:23 |
| treestrump | thats what I was thinking, VU had allready occured | Oct 29 16:23 |
| treestrump | VE * | Oct 29 16:23 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I sort of suspected this, but didn't check the dates | Oct 29 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Germany surrendered in April of 1945 | Oct 29 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | Japan surrendered in September I believe | Oct 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | When was the xbox account suspended? | Oct 29 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | ugggh | Oct 29 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | saw that one did you? | Oct 29 16:24 |
| treestrump | 11/11 on the deck of the Massuri battleship | Oct 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | There's another one, DaemonFC | Oct 29 16:25 |
| schestowitz | About Android | Oct 29 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | Vista | Oct 29 16:25 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VZHT389eR4 | Oct 29 16:25 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - Even Hitler is mad at Google for C&D order on Cyanogen Android .::. Size~: 131.44 KB | Oct 29 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I stumbled onto a weird Windows 7 bug | Oct 29 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes it boots up and doesn't see my keyboard or mouse | Oct 29 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | no way to log in | Oct 29 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | did it on my last system too sometimes | Oct 29 16:26 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-javadev2-4/index.html | Oct 29 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | irritating when it decides to do that | Oct 29 16:27 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Java development 2.0: Easy EC2 .::. Size~: 59.89 KB | Oct 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: anyone else w/ same bug? | Oct 29 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | don't know | Oct 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | This is why people should stay away until sp1 | Oct 29 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, That's always been the party line before | Oct 29 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, There is alreayd a SP1 branch on "WinMain" | Oct 29 16:28 |
| *zer0c00l|Away is now known as zer0c00l | Oct 29 16:28 | |
| DaemonFC | as to when it is released, who knows? | Oct 29 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | probably a year or so | Oct 29 16:28 |
| treestrump | I see a bug in vista and sometimes (but not as often) in Win 7, where if you SHIFT DEL a file, it does not go away, but stays there until you log off or restart. | Oct 29 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | treestrump, hit F5 when it does that | Oct 29 16:28 |
| treestrump | SHIFT DEl does not bring up the "are you sure" thing | Oct 29 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | or back and forward arrows | Oct 29 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Oct 29 16:29 |
| schestowitz | http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/O/OpenDocument_Format.html | Oct 29 16:29 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: What is OpenDocument Format? - A Word Definition From the Webopedia Computer Dictionary .::. Size~: 60.59 KB | Oct 29 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | I had a weird Vista filesystem bug once | Oct 29 16:29 |
| treestrump | ive tried all sorts of things, but sometimes the file "goes away" but comes back when you F5 it | Oct 29 16:29 |
| treestrump | yes, pisses me off | Oct 29 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | It deleted the folder but the folder stayed, but if I tried to delete it, it would tell me it didn't exist | Oct 29 16:29 |
| treestrump | yes, thats the kind of thing i get. | Oct 29 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | you have to go to the command prompt and use dir /x to get the DOS 8.3 name | Oct 29 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | and then use del <8.3 name> | Oct 29 16:30 |
| treestrump | I wonder if renaming the file would work, but it's still a bug | Oct 29 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why Windows still makes an 8.3 name | Oct 29 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, lots of Windows bugs survive between releases | Oct 29 16:31 |
| treestrump | it's usually very large file too, like several gig | Oct 29 16:31 |
| DaemonFC | XP is still the closest thing to a stable Windows system | Oct 29 16:32 |
| DaemonFC | just cause it's had a metric assload of patches | Oct 29 16:32 |
| DaemonFC | XP was hell on wheels too when it was new | Oct 29 16:32 |
| treestrump | I have no problems with stability, thats fine, thats the only bug ive noticed. | Oct 29 16:32 |
| DaemonFC | nothing wanted to work | Oct 29 16:32 |
| DaemonFC | crashed all the time | Oct 29 16:32 |
| DaemonFC | slow | Oct 29 16:32 |
| schestowitz | So even mutex is having issues | Oct 29 16:36 |
| schestowitz | And we now know he uses Vista 7 | Oct 29 16:36 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] BBC - dot.life: 24 hours with Ubuntu - Popey's blog post gets a response http://tinyurl.com/yzz4z9k | Oct 29 16:36 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: BBC - dot.life: 24 hours with Ubuntu .::. Size~: 529.31 KB | Oct 29 16:37 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu is having IRC launch parties...... http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/ubuntu-opening-doors | Oct 29 16:40 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Ubuntu Opening The Doors | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 40.47 KB | Oct 29 16:40 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, gotta go | Oct 29 16:40 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Cool , Nice tamil translation :D (karmic kola) http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download RD: @amachu: கருமிக் கோவாலா வந்தது.. | Oct 29 16:40 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Download Ubuntu | Ubuntu .::. Size~: 28.79 KB | Oct 29 16:40 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] ubuntu karmic kola features http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/910features | Oct 29 16:45 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Ubuntu 9.10 Feature Tour | Ubuntu .::. Size~: 14.43 KB | Oct 29 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.forbes.com/2009/10/29/gdp-economy-growth-business-washington-gdp.html | Oct 29 16:49 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: GDP Grows By 3.5% - Forbes.com .::. Size~: 25.46 KB | Oct 29 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | yay, jobless recovery! | Oct 29 16:49 |
| *desu (i=desu@i.hate.your.vhosts.shellium.org) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 16:52 | |
| *_goblin (n=goblin@94-193-188-104.zone7.bethere.co.uk) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 16:59 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Ubuntu 9.10 released....Ubuntu IRC party gets over 1000 visitors to its chatroom. Way to go Ubuntu! http://www.ubuntu.com/ #linux | Oct 29 17:13 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Ubuntu Home Page | Ubuntu .::. Size~: 16.98 KB | Oct 29 17:13 |
| *magentar has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | Oct 29 17:22 | |
| _goblin | Roy, you going to look at Kubuntu 9.10? | Oct 29 17:24 |
| *zer0c00l has quit (Connection timed out) | Oct 29 17:30 | |
| *magentar (n=magentar@ip-109-90-136-6.unitymediagroup.de) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 17:42 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] The praise for Ubuntu 9.10 is coming in thick and fast! Try it for yourself: http://www.ubuntu.com/ #microsoft #windows #vista #xp #linux | Oct 29 17:45 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Ubuntu Home Page | Ubuntu .::. Size~: 16.98 KB | Oct 29 17:45 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Ubuntu 9.10 released! – Windows 7 the slowest option? http://tinyurl.com/yzjwcpp #linux #foss #windows #microsoft #vista #xp | Oct 29 18:05 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Ubuntu 9.10 released! Windows 7 the slowest option? « OPEN BYTES cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. .::. Size~: 33.03 KB | Oct 29 18:06 |
| *Lns (n=lns@pdpc/supporter/professional/lns) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 18:18 | |
| *Aondo has quit ("Lost terminal") | Oct 29 18:27 | |
| *jono has quit ("Ex-Chat") | Oct 29 18:43 | |
| *Rui (i=bd23455e@gateway/web/freenode/x-lsodhtdgbnqlmoiv) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 18:44 | |
| Rui | Hello gentlemen | Oct 29 18:45 |
| Rui | Is Mr. Schestowitz around ??? | Oct 29 18:45 |
| Rui | Mr Schestowitz | Oct 29 18:47 |
| Rui | Are you around here ??? | Oct 29 18:47 |
| Rui | I have a link | Oct 29 18:47 |
| Rui | To the blog of Mr. Jomar Silva | Oct 29 18:47 |
| Rui | I thought you should find it interesting | Oct 29 18:47 |
| Rui | Very enlightening article | Oct 29 18:48 |
| Rui | About OOXML | Oct 29 18:48 |
| Rui | http://homembit.com/2009/10/openxml-what-i-havent-told-yet-about-the-brm.html | Oct 29 18:48 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: OpenXML: What I havent told yet about the BRM | void life(void) .::. Size~: 26.36 KB | Oct 29 18:48 |
| *Rui (i=bd23455e@gateway/web/freenode/x-lsodhtdgbnqlmoiv) has left #boycottnovell | Oct 29 18:49 | |
| *Rui (i=bd23455e@gateway/web/freenode/session) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 18:50 | |
| Rui | Well, i hope the post to be useful for you | Oct 29 18:51 |
| Rui | Have to go now | Oct 29 18:51 |
| Rui | Peace | Oct 29 18:51 |
| *Rui has quit (Client Quit) | Oct 29 18:51 | |
| *Diablo-D3 (n=diablo@68.238.49.173) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 18:56 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Krystof Kolesky - Cross The Line (OFFICIAL TUNE)" ♫ http://blip.fm/~fl1w8 | Oct 29 19:09 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 27.7 KB | Oct 29 19:10 |
| *gargoyle-grin has quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) | Oct 29 19:10 | |
| *_goblin has quit ("Ex-Chat") | Oct 29 19:10 | |
| schestowitz | "[opensuse-announce] openSUSE 11.2 Final Release Candidate" | Oct 29 19:12 |
| schestowitz | Alex Brown exposed some more | Oct 29 19:20 |
| schestowitz | When does shilling become a punishable crime? | Oct 29 19:20 |
| *gargoyle-grin (n=randerso@gentoo/contributor/gargoyle-grin) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 19:21 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Women! Put out or be condemned as a witch! in 2009 - http://is.gd/4HrzF | Oct 29 19:30 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Daily Devotional | Weekly Devotional | John Hagee Ministries .::. Size~: 41.86 KB | Oct 29 19:31 |
| schestowitz | I'm getting fatigued by the "Cloud " hype. http://www.data-storage-today.com/fullpage/fullpage.xhtml?dest=%2Fstory.xhtml%3Fstory_id%3D69692 | Oct 29 19:35 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Data Storage Today .::. Size~: 1.89 KB | Oct 29 19:35 |
| *shreddar (i=62f0385c@gateway/web/freenode/x-wtxtxqirkpqiwffx) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 19:36 | |
| schestowitz | Several years back with the same service it just wasn't *Called* "cloud" | Oct 29 19:36 |
| shreddar | http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/htc-ceo-says-he-could-but-wont-make-hd2-an-android-phone-has-t/ | Oct 29 19:36 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: HTC CEO says he could but won't make HD2 an Android phone, has to take care of Windows Mobile .::. Size~: 138.09 KB | Oct 29 19:36 |
| shreddar | He didn't hold back on Google, however, saying that some of its actions can be "destructive" but that "we've worked with Microsoft for 13 years ... I also believe we can work with Google for a long time." | Oct 29 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | http://howtoevictatenantinindiana.blogspot.com/ | Oct 29 19:38 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: How to evict a Tenant in Indiana .::. Size~: 21.96 KB | Oct 29 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Oct 29 19:38 |
| shreddar | I wonder what he destructive actions he was talking about. | Oct 29 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | "Indiana requires that anyone having a tenant evicted must post a temporary Bond to protect the County from a lawsuit if you have managed to present false evidence to the Court with the purpose of having the tenant evicted." | Oct 29 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | interesting | Oct 29 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I had a summons to appear in court a while back (almost a year) | Oct 29 19:45 |
| shreddar | DaemonFC were you evicted? | Oct 29 19:46 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] My first twit from KDEuBlog on Kubuntu 9.10! | Oct 29 19:46 | |
| DaemonFC | a friend of mine whose 72 year old father was mentally and physcally incapable of taking care of himself was being neglected by my friend's mother | Oct 29 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | who was mentally unfit to take care of anyone, including herself | Oct 29 19:47 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: Goldman is happy | Oct 29 19:47 |
| schestowitz | http://essenceofpolitics.blogspot.com/2009/10/goldman-sachs-executive-are-primed-to.html | Oct 29 19:47 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The Essence of Politics: Goldman Sachs Executive are Primed to Get Lucrative Bonuses .::. Size~: 387.86 KB | Oct 29 19:47 |
| schestowitz | http://www.mpnnow.com/opinions/x1136013416/Benjamin-Wachs-Behind-the-Goldman-Sachs-Recession | Oct 29 19:47 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Benjamin Wachs: Behind the Goldman Sachs Recession - Canandaigua, NY - MPNnow .::. Size~: 47.16 KB | Oct 29 19:47 |
| schestowitz | http://blogsforvictory.com/2009/10/20/goldman-sachs-and-your-70-billion/ | Oct 29 19:47 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Blogs For Victory » Blog Archive » Goldman Sachs and Your $70 Billion .::. Size~: 33.42 KB | Oct 29 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | so I was examined by the lawyers for both sides who asked me questions about the conditions of the home, my overall impression of his parents mental states, etc | Oct 29 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | what I witnessed going on there | Oct 29 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | the court awarded him custody of his father pretty quickly, we also had Adult Protective Services in agreement with us | Oct 29 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | his dad was so badly neglected that he almost died | Oct 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | "custody of his father"? | Oct 29 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | he was in the hospital for weeks, had sepsis | Oct 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Sounds inverted | Oct 29 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, yes, by court order | Oct 29 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, it was a mess, he's a manager at the Walmart in that town and he had his mom's family coming in or calling | Oct 29 19:50 |
| schestowitz | shreddar: let htc die with Windows | Oct 29 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | harassing him at work | Oct 29 19:50 |
| schestowitz | WIndows Mobile rather | Oct 29 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | he had the police come there and he filed trespassing charges | Oct 29 19:50 |
| schestowitz | OK, but why bring it up *here*? | Oct 29 19:51 |
| schestowitz | http://www.wealthdaily.com/articles/ratigan-on-goldman-sachs-legalized-theft/2136 | Oct 29 19:51 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Ratigan on Goldman Sachs: "Legalized Theft" .::. Size~: 20.01 KB | Oct 29 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know, just an interesting blip in a boring year | Oct 29 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, eBay "sniping" programs are actually against Indiana state law as written | Oct 29 19:53 |
| shreddar | I was curious as to their motivation for doing that. I figured it had to do something with google's destructive actions. | Oct 29 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | using one is a Class A Misdemeanor | Oct 29 19:53 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz aaaand another one bites the dust http://bit.ly/2rUT1q | Oct 29 19:54 | |
| DaemonFC | interesting that we have a lot of stupid laws like this and no state law criminalizing spyware distributors | Oct 29 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | I suppose you could stretch IC 35-43-2-3 | Oct 29 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | to cover spyware | Oct 29 19:56 |
| shreddar | I never even heard of MSN Direct. | Oct 29 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | the definition of "computer trespassing" seems loose enough to fit | Oct 29 19:56 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @davidgerard aye. Was gonna write about it shortly. Ta. | Oct 29 19:56 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @almightygod CBN: "Most of the candy sold during this season has been dedicated and prayed over by witches." http://is.gd/4HpxY #poesLaw | Oct 29 19:56 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The Danger of Celebrating Halloween: Spiritual Life in God .::. Size~: 47.62 KB | Oct 29 19:57 |
| shreddar | DaemonFC only when the computer belongs to someone wealthy enough to afford justice. | Oct 29 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if it involves desecretion using the semen of a defrocked priest | Oct 29 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | Pat Robertson should die, but oh well | Oct 29 19:58 |
| *shreddar has to get going | Oct 29 19:58 | |
| *shreddar has quit ("appointment") | Oct 29 19:58 | |
| DaemonFC | plenty of idiots waiting to replace him who are just as crazy or worse | Oct 29 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The swine flu on the candy is God's punishment for trick or treating | Oct 29 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | dontchaknow? | Oct 29 20:00 |
| schestowitz | [19:58] <DaemonFC> Pat Robertson should die, but oh well | Oct 29 20:02 |
| schestowitz | Don't make statements like that here | Oct 29 20:02 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq939cZv2Uc | Oct 29 20:02 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - Classic: Christopher Hitchens on The Death Of Jerry Falwell .::. Size~: 131.08 KB | Oct 29 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | nah, I mean they should find him slumped over in his oatmeal one morning like Jerry Falwell | Oct 29 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | not that anyone should kill him | Oct 29 20:02 |
| schestowitz | : "If you gave falwell an enema he could be burried in a matchbox." | Oct 29 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | kind of hard to make a martyr out of a guy that died of natural causes and fell face first into his bowl of oatmeal, right? | Oct 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | Well...... | Oct 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | Listen to the above video | Oct 29 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | it just says an error has occurred | Oct 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | > fell face first into his bowl of oatmeal, right? | Oct 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | At least he died happy | Oct 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | And full. | Oct 29 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | he was always full of something | Oct 29 20:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | [04:00:02] <schestowitz> : "If you gave falwell an enema he could be burried in a matchbox." | Oct 29 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | doesn't that count? | Oct 29 20:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | _wow_ | Oct 29 20:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | I lol'd | Oct 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | http://thehill.com/hillicon-valley/605-technology/64975-white-house-adopts-open-source-code | Oct 29 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Pat Robertson is one of those frauds that uses Christianity and stupid people as a nice fake front to personally enrich himself, and the damage they do to society and the hate they instill into people lasts long after they're dead and buried | Oct 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | "matchbox" thing was the sound bite | Oct 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | He later spoke about preparing it and trying to sneak it in, which he did in several different shows | Oct 29 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, and even when they get called out or go to prison for fraude (Jim Bakker) or found having sex with a male prostitute | Oct 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | It's what people remember | Oct 29 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | they say they asked God for forgiveness, and they're right back | Oct 29 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | *fraud | Oct 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | "male prostitute" sounds wrong | Oct 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Gigolo | Oct 29 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, That idiot with the fake Creationism Museam had it seized by the feds cause he owed the IRS tens of thousands of dollars in back taxes | Oct 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Like "pregnant man" | Oct 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, one crime goes with another | Oct 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | One lie leads to another | Oct 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | And there's this good film about how religion is used to keep things in check | Oct 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | But some people are sensitive to these issues | Oct 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | Clergy is between leaders and people | Oct 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | They are the 'spiritual' leaders | Oct 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | Few leaders are theists | Oct 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | Some fake it | Oct 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | GWB didn't | Oct 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | But they can better control the people and encourage "patriotism"/nationalism using phantom unifiers like "Bible" | Oct 29 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | http://io9.com/5330257/dinosaur-creationism-theme-park-seized-by-the-government | Oct 29 20:13 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Dinosaur Creationism Theme Park Seized By The Government - pseudo-science - io9 .::. Size~: 66.37 KB | Oct 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | They can't just tell people, support me cause, well... cause I'm the leader | Oct 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | So there needs to be common enenies | Oct 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | Always on the outside | Oct 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | The threat of peace is one where resentment will be made internal | Oct 29 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | Kent Hovind] was found guilty in November 2006 on 58 counts, including failure to pay employee taxes and making threats against investigators. | Oct 29 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | The conviction culminated 17 years of Hovind sparring with the IRS. Saying he was employed by God and his ministers were not subject to payroll taxes, he claimed no income or property | Oct 29 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | lulz | Oct 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | Revolt of power inside the country is dealt with using the same methodology as applied to foreign enemies | Oct 29 20:14 |
| schestowitz | "Saying he was employed by God and his ministers were not subject to payroll taxes, he claimed no income or property" | Oct 29 20:14 |
| schestowitz | No problem | Oct 29 20:14 |
| schestowitz | It's not his fault | Oct 29 20:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | [amsg] team fortress 2 is $2.49 until 2pm PDT | Oct 29 20:14 |
| schestowitz | They should speak to his boss | Oct 29 20:14 |
| schestowitz | His boss, God, may be accountable | Oct 29 20:14 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: if the hospital tries milking your family, say you're son of God | Oct 29 20:15 |
| schestowitz | They should ask God for payments. Or pray for one :D | Oct 29 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, How would they go after my family? | Oct 29 20:16 |
| schestowitz | Don't know | Oct 29 20:17 |
| schestowitz | http://www.australianit.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26271153-15306,00.html | Oct 29 20:18 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Technology News | IT News | Australian IT .::. Size~: 46.53 KB | Oct 29 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, if there is a pandemic flu, I believe it'll hit Christians harder | Oct 29 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | the fundamentalist ones anyway | Oct 29 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | they're basically the core of the anti-vaccine conspiracy theories | Oct 29 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | maybe that's just wishful thinking, stupid people making stupid decisions that weed themselves out of the gene pool | Oct 29 20:23 |
| MinceR | i wonder what the clams' stance on vaccines is | Oct 29 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | no wonder I like the Darwin Awards | Oct 29 20:23 |
| schestowitz | Good times for Free software.... http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewiStockNews/articleid/3586014 | Oct 29 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The Christians have claimed that vaccines cause autism and such | Oct 29 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | Black Muslims claim the vaccine is a secret plot by the US government to kill black people | Oct 29 20:24 |
| MinceR | i see. clams aren't christians though :> | Oct 29 20:24 |
| schestowitz | [20:23] <DaemonFC> no wonder I like the Darwin Awards | Oct 29 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | everything you can think of,t hese people will believe it | Oct 29 20:25 |
| schestowitz | Darwin is a good guy | Oct 29 20:25 |
| schestowitz | And he turned his back on his beliefs | Oct 29 20:25 |
| MinceR | the Darwin Award is a good thing too | Oct 29 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | that's the retroactive claim by Christians anyway, schestowitz | Oct 29 20:25 |
| schestowitz | He inspired some mathematicians too | Oct 29 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | I don't believe it | Oct 29 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | Christians will tell any lie to discredit anyone that goes against them | Oct 29 20:25 |
| schestowitz | Cantor ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUL-x8Gm1h4&NR=1 | Oct 29 20:26 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - BBC-Dangerous Knowledge (Part 4-10) .::. Size~: 133.7 KB | Oct 29 20:26 |
| schestowitz | Good programme | Oct 29 20:26 |
| schestowitz | ..Watched it 2 days ago.. | Oct 29 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, This Windows 7 shill made a funny typo... | Oct 29 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/174677/five_things_you_should_know_about_windows_7_security.html | Oct 29 20:30 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Five Things You Should Know About Windows 7 Security - Business Center - PC World .::. Size~: 40.43 KB | Oct 29 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | "You can download and use IE8 with other versions of Windows, so its not specific to Windows 7, but it does contain some security enhancements worth nothing." | Oct 29 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | worth nothing? | Oct 29 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | hehehe | Oct 29 20:30 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 29 20:31 |
| schestowitz | http://www.rethink-wireless.com/2009/10/28/china-mobile-att-new-symbian-horizon-apps-platform.htm | Oct 29 20:31 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: China Mobile and AT&T use new Symbian Horizon apps platform - Rethink Wireless .::. Size~: 23.51 KB | Oct 29 20:32 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Oct 29 20:32 |
| schestowitz | Or. | Oct 29 20:32 |
| schestowitz | "Windows 7, but it does contain some security" | Oct 29 20:32 |
| schestowitz | SOME | Oct 29 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | I still haven't used IE on this computer other than to download Opera | Oct 29 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | ugggh | Oct 29 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Freudian slips? | Oct 29 20:33 |
| schestowitz | Tony Bradley... don't know his name | Oct 29 20:33 |
| schestowitz | Maybe he's trying to create buzz | Oct 29 20:33 |
| schestowitz | Keep the Vista*7 release floating along with fluff | Oct 29 20:33 |
| schestowitz | "Vista 7 blah blah..." | Oct 29 20:33 |
| schestowitz | "Puppies love Vista 7" | Oct 29 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, That just kind of tickled me | Oct 29 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | "IE 8 has new security features worth nothing" | Oct 29 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 29 20:34 |
| schestowitz | "Enderle: Vista 7 to conquer world:" | Oct 29 20:34 |
| schestowitz | "Kid dies in Burger king after Vista 7 meal" | Oct 29 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, In some ways, it's worse than Vista | Oct 29 20:42 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Julie Bindel as wannabe transsexual? It's plausible. http://rozk.livejournal.com/284649.html | Oct 29 20:43 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Adult Content Notice .::. Size~: 14.21 KB | Oct 29 20:43 |
| *_goblin (n=goblin@94-193-188-104.zone7.bethere.co.uk) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 20:45 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Team Fortress 2 is $2.49 until 2pm PDT today | Oct 29 20:45 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] messing around with 9.10....first change: kwin to compiz...must have wobbly windows and cube! so far great work! | Oct 29 20:45 | |
| DaemonFC | lmao | Oct 29 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Now they're saying statins lower flu deaths | Oct 29 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | unbelievable | Oct 29 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSTRE59S4CE20091029 | Oct 29 20:47 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] One thing Ive noticed...Kubuntu 9.10 is not quite as punchy with 512mb ram as previous version..maybe thats just Gnome being less CPU work. | Oct 29 20:50 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Loathsome Julie Bindel odious grot http://standpointmag.com/node/2298/full Ideas wanted for a notnews on the theme, please. (email or DM) | Oct 29 20:51 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] http://twitpic.com/nfee5 - Just switched windows manager from Kwin to Compiz...Kubuntu 9.10 in action, slowly customizing it to my liking! | Oct 29 20:59 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Just switched windows manager from Kwin to Compiz...Kubuntu 9... on Twitpic .::. Size~: 7.11 KB | Oct 29 21:00 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: another new one from Tony Bradley http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/174656/verizon_droid_success_limited_by_android_market.html | Oct 29 21:01 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Verizon Droid Success Limited by Android Market - Business Center - PC World .::. Size~: 40.08 KB | Oct 29 21:01 |
| schestowitz | Android bashing of sorts | Oct 29 21:01 |
| _goblin | hi roy! | Oct 29 21:02 |
| schestowitz | Hey | Oct 29 21:02 |
| _goblin | had a look at 9.10 yet? | Oct 29 21:02 |
| schestowitz | Compiz in KDE, still? | Oct 29 21:02 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: yes, where have you been? | Oct 29 21:02 |
| schestowitz | I've used it since alpha | Oct 29 21:02 |
| _goblin | just changed it over from kwin | Oct 29 21:02 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC convinced me to | Oct 29 21:02 |
| schestowitz | I was gonna use Mandriva with 4.2.2. | Oct 29 21:02 |
| _goblin | I didn't touch it until today.....was at the IRC party though! | Oct 29 21:02 |
| schestowitz | What did you do in the party? | Oct 29 21:02 |
| _goblin | nothing...lol | Oct 29 21:03 |
| _goblin | just an announcement when there were over 1000 users | Oct 29 21:03 |
| _goblin | thats it really... | Oct 29 21:03 |
| *schestowitz blows a trumpet | Oct 29 21:03 | |
| _goblin | did you see the youtube speed comparisons? | Oct 29 21:03 |
| _goblin | in regards to vista/7/ubuntu? | Oct 29 21:04 |
| _goblin | Ubuntu booted the fastest, however what was interesting was Vista booted quicker than 7 | Oct 29 21:04 |
| schestowitz | I want people to see kde4 | Oct 29 21:04 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @_goblin http://ping.fm/FC8jm - Just switched windows manager from Kwin to Compiz...Kubuntu 9.10 in action | Oct 29 21:05 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Just switched windows manager from Kwin to Compiz...Kubuntu 9... on Twitpic .::. Size~: 7.12 KB | Oct 29 21:05 |
| schestowitz | It's more modern and fit as a worthy competitor to Snort[sic] Leopard | Oct 29 21:05 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: dont' worry | Oct 29 21:06 |
| schestowitz | Vista 8 is out real soon now | Oct 29 21:06 |
| schestowitz | It will fix everything! | Oct 29 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | and it'll even be 128-bit | Oct 29 21:06 |
| _goblin | it will be better next time. | Oct 29 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | don't forget that | Oct 29 21:06 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php/Vista_8_Reality_Log | Oct 29 21:06 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Vista 8 Reality Log - Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 12.52 KB | Oct 29 21:06 |
| schestowitz | Today I had 3 firefox* processes running | Oct 29 21:08 |
| schestowitz | Turns out this is why: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.5.4/releasenotes/ | Oct 29 21:08 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Mozilla Firefox 3.5.4 Release Notes .::. Size~: 35.44 KB | Oct 29 21:08 |
| _goblin | ff? Get over to Chromium....I made the move and haven't regretted it... | Oct 29 21:09 |
| _goblin | :) One very happy puppy here. | Oct 29 21:09 |
| schestowitz | I use ThunderBird | Oct 29 21:10 |
| schestowitz | Like 90% of my browsing | Oct 29 21:11 |
| schestowitz | I use Firefox for videos and blogging | Oct 29 21:11 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: so we run the same desktop now | Oct 29 21:11 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] DW/LJ: Deep end. http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/17249.html http://reddragdiva.livejournal.com/531175.html | Oct 29 21:11 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: reddragdiva | Deep end. .::. Size~: 29.52 KB | Oct 29 21:12 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: reddragdiva: Deep end. .::. Size~: 20.12 KB | Oct 29 21:12 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: http://boycottnovell.com/images/kde4-roy-20092.png | Oct 29 21:12 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/png type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Oct 29 21:12 |
| *shreddar (i=62f0385c@gateway/web/freenode/x-ujjhbukdlkggzruf) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 21:14 | |
| *shreddar is back | Oct 29 21:14 | |
| schestowitz | !google Macky's back on town | Oct 29 21:16 |
| phIRCe-local | [1] - Lyrics Planet - Bobby Darin - Mack The Knife Lyrics | http://www.lyricsplanet.com/index.php3%3Fstyle%3Dlyrics%26id%3D21247 | Oct 29 21:16 |
| phIRCe-local | [2] - Mack The Knife | http://www.erenkrantz.com/Music/Lyrics/MackTheKnife.shtml | Oct 29 21:16 |
| phIRCe-local | [3] - Nashville Arts - Macky's Back in Town - page 1 | http://www.nashvillescene.com/2009-03-19/arts/macky-s-back-in-town/ | Oct 29 21:16 |
| phIRCe-local | [4] - Michael Buble - Mack The Knife Lyrics | http://artists.letssingit.com/michael-buble-lyrics-mack-the-knife-s649nhz | Oct 29 21:16 |
| schestowitz | http://www.internetnews.com/software/article.php/3846141 | Oct 29 21:17 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Ubuntu Linux 9.10 'Karmic Koala' Starts Its Climb - InternetNews.com .::. Size~: 147.9 KB | Oct 29 21:17 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.computerworld.com/14999/ubuntu_9_10_linux_for_business | Oct 29 21:18 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Ubuntu 9.10: Linux for business - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 141.53 KB | Oct 29 21:18 |
| shreddar | Mack the knife? | Oct 29 21:18 |
| shreddar | ... | Oct 29 21:18 |
| schestowitz | http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/e/ella-fitzgerald/album-the-complete-ella-in-berlin-mack-the-knife.jpg | Oct 29 21:19 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Oct 29 21:19 |
| shreddar | Oh, I googled it. Got a helpfull little preview | Oct 29 21:20 |
| shreddar | Nevermind it was the album not the song. | Oct 29 21:21 |
| shreddar | Nevermind it was the song. | Oct 29 21:23 |
| shreddar | I don't listen to much music. | Oct 29 21:23 |
| schestowitz | http://chromehelpforums.com/thread-121-post-123.html#pid123 | Oct 29 21:25 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: 5 Entertaining Chrome OS Fakes .::. Size~: 26.51 KB | Oct 29 21:25 |
| shreddar | I can see Ubuntu being a default alternative as far a businesses are concerned but as far as consumers are concerned they don't even I just don't think it has the stuff. | Oct 29 21:28 |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | Oct 29 21:29 | |
| shreddar | I don't think Windows has the stuff to even stay in consumer computers. | Oct 29 21:29 |
| schestowitz | shreddar: depends where | Oct 29 21:29 |
| schestowitz | And Ubuntu has many derivatives\ | Oct 29 21:29 |
| schestowitz | Including localised ones | Oct 29 21:29 |
| schestowitz | Opea should go GPL........! http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Web-Services-Web-20-and-SOA/Opera-10-Still-an-Innovative-Web-Browser/ http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/opera-10-01 | Oct 29 21:30 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Opera 10 Still an Innovative Web Browser .::. Size~: 47.4 KB | Oct 29 21:30 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: 500 Internal Server Error .::. Size~: 0.71 KB | Oct 29 21:30 |
| shreddar | How is Opera even still in business? | Oct 29 21:31 |
| shreddar | They don't have a pay browser anymore. | Oct 29 21:31 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Found a bug with KDEuBlog and 9.10...friends don't show up on the timeline...No big deal though... | Oct 29 21:31 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] This is going to sound really thick, but where are the screensaver options for Kubuntu 9.10? | Oct 29 21:31 | |
| shreddar | You have to install screensavers | Oct 29 21:32 |
| MinceR | iirc they still sell browsers for mobile devices | Oct 29 21:33 |
| MinceR | some manufacturers ship opera preinstalled | Oct 29 21:33 |
| shreddar | Not for long I bet. | Oct 29 21:33 |
| shreddar | I never knew they had computer with opera installed | Oct 29 21:34 |
| MinceR | iirc some mobile phones come with opera preinstalled | Oct 29 21:34 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] KDE 4.3.2 I must admit, I am beginning to grow fond of you! :) | Oct 29 21:34 | |
| schestowitz | http://techie-buzz.com/linux-tips/safely-restart-frozen-linux-system-reisub.html | Oct 29 21:37 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Safely Restart a Frozen Linux System with Reisub .::. Size~: 45.64 KB | Oct 29 21:37 |
| *Lns has quit ("Φ") | Oct 29 21:37 | |
| schestowitz | Yes, mobile | Oct 29 21:37 |
| schestowitz | Opera's cow is the mobile version. VERY good browser I hear | Oct 29 21:38 |
| schestowitz | The one dying there is IE for winmo | Oct 29 21:38 |
| schestowitz | Not Opera | Oct 29 21:38 |
| schestowitz | Mobile Firefox is still a cub | Oct 29 21:38 |
| shreddar | oh yeah but I think webkit browsers will probably put an end to that. | Oct 29 21:39 |
| _goblin | shreddar: thanks...I expected it to have at least one default......its Ubuntu afterall! | Oct 29 21:40 |
| shreddar | kscreensaver | Oct 29 21:40 |
| shreddar | Yeah I did too. | Oct 29 21:40 |
| shreddar | So did other people. | Oct 29 21:40 |
| _goblin | cheers! D/L'ing now! | Oct 29 21:41 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/40703 | Oct 29 21:42 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Who wishes we boycotted ubuntu /now/? | tuxmachines.org .::. Size~: 35.77 KB | Oct 29 21:42 |
| shreddar | I like #3 of the Chrome OS fakes (except for the out of place Icon bar) | Oct 29 21:46 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: your FUD sibling: Making money with FLOSS, really? < http://laserjock.wordpress.com/2009/10/28/making-money-with-floss-really/ > | Oct 29 21:46 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Making money with FLOSS, really? « LaserJock .::. Size~: 32.55 KB | Oct 29 21:46 |
| _goblin | To be fair, I could live without Ubuntu, but can't we all just be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQi9O4wQMIU | Oct 29 21:46 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - Friends... .::. Size~: 131.68 KB | Oct 29 21:46 |
| *wallc (i=62a521f3@gateway/web/freenode/x-vcgpadshpctxezmy) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 21:46 | |
| shreddar | I think the Tabs would serve the same use as the docker. | Oct 29 21:47 |
| shreddar | So the docker just seems out of place. | Oct 29 21:47 |
| shreddar | Other then that though it's a cool concept | Oct 29 21:48 |
| schestowitz | http://linuxcrunch.com/content/seamonkey-20-modern-internet-suite-here | Oct 29 21:48 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here! | We love Linux ! .::. Size~: 27.34 KB | Oct 29 21:48 |
| shreddar | http://chromehelpforums.com/images/misc/chromeos61.jpg | Oct 29 21:48 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Oct 29 21:48 |
| shreddar | In case nobody knows what I was refering too. | Oct 29 21:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9140065/On_Linux_and_random_numbers | Oct 29 21:51 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: On Linux and random numbers .::. Size~: 133.69 KB | Oct 29 21:52 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: Maybe I inspired him?!?!? | Oct 29 21:53 |
| schestowitz | Who? | Oct 29 21:54 |
| schestowitz | What's the song anyway? | Oct 29 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Kinda queer... | Oct 29 21:54 |
| _goblin | ? | Oct 29 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Weird song. | Oct 29 21:55 |
| _goblin | Ah,.,,, | Oct 29 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Not gay | Oct 29 21:55 |
| _goblin | the Doug Anthony All Stars... | Oct 29 21:55 |
| _goblin | I was at that show.... | Oct 29 21:55 |
| schestowitz | The word "queer" no longer means what it used to, I guess | Oct 29 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Another weird song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk | Oct 29 21:55 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - Every Sperm is Sacred .::. Size~: 176.11 KB | Oct 29 21:55 |
| _goblin | lol | Oct 29 21:55 |
| _goblin | monty python | Oct 29 21:55 |
| shreddar | Has anyone tried Reisub? | Oct 29 21:56 |
| *PetoKraus has quit ("Leaving") | Oct 29 21:56 | |
| schestowitz | I haven't heard of it till today | Oct 29 21:56 |
| schestowitz | http://amarok.kde.org/blog/archives/1115-Post-Amarok-2.2.1-Adding-some-color-to-your-life!.html | Oct 29 21:57 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Amarok Blog .::. Size~: 55.69 KB | Oct 29 21:57 |
| shreddar | I think my power button probably does that if I hold it down long enough. I'm not sure though. | Oct 29 21:57 |
| shreddar | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clPYfaTvHT0 | Oct 29 21:58 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - Monty Python- I'm a lumberjack THE BEST VERSION by Eric Idle .::. Size~: 135.69 KB | Oct 29 21:58 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Who said Britney Speers career was over...she's sounding great....http://bit.ly/9Tx2q | Oct 29 21:59 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - children of bodom - oops i did it again (cover) .::. Size~: 140.09 KB | Oct 29 21:59 |
| shreddar | i wish Amarok had visualisations | Oct 29 22:04 |
| shreddar | i wish could use visualizations (along with music) as a screensaver | Oct 29 22:05 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/100_000_000_downloads \o/ | Oct 29 22:06 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: 100.000.000 downloads - GullFOSS .::. Size~: 57.81 KB | Oct 29 22:06 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: wtf??? | Oct 29 22:07 |
| *_goblin has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Oct 29 22:08 | |
| *schestowitz has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Oct 29 22:08 | |
| *wallc has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Oct 29 22:08 | |
| *shreddar has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Oct 29 22:08 | |
| *cubezzz has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Oct 29 22:08 | |
| *zoobab has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Oct 29 22:08 | |
| *treestrump has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Oct 29 22:08 | |
| *fewa has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Oct 29 22:08 | |
| *trmanco has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Oct 29 22:08 | |
| *benJIman has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Oct 29 22:08 | |
| *[H]omer has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Oct 29 22:08 | |
| *tessier has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Oct 29 22:08 | |
| *jmpnop has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Oct 29 22:08 | |
| *BNi has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Oct 29 22:08 | |
| *ambroff has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Oct 29 22:08 | |
| *ChanServ has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Oct 29 22:08 | |
| *magentar has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Oct 29 22:08 | |
| *logger_bot has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Oct 29 22:08 | |
| *Balrog has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Oct 29 22:08 | |
| *gargoyle-grin has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Oct 29 22:08 | |
| *lordtoran has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Oct 29 22:08 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Mmm I thought Koala would have opted for a more recent Python than 2.6.4..whilst there were changes I would have thought it'd go with 3 | Oct 29 22:08 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Another good thing about Kubuntu 9.10 is there are no "play once" games pre-installed. | Oct 29 22:08 | |
| *[H]omer (n=[H]omer@92.241.168.90) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 22:10 | |
| *schestowitz () has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 22:10 | |
| *_goblin (n=goblin@94-193-188-104.zone7.bethere.co.uk) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 22:10 | |
| *PetoKraus (n=pk@cpc1-broo6-0-0-cust1009.renf.cable.ntl.com) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 22:10 | |
| *wallc (i=62a521f3@gateway/web/freenode/x-vcgpadshpctxezmy) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 22:10 | |
| *shreddar (i=62f0385c@gateway/web/freenode/x-ujjhbukdlkggzruf) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 22:10 | |
| *gargoyle-grin (n=randerso@gentoo/contributor/gargoyle-grin) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 22:10 | |
| *magentar (n=magentar@ip-109-90-136-6.unitymediagroup.de) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 22:10 | |
| *lordtoran (n=lordtora@dslb-088-078-092-186.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 22:10 | |
| *treestrump (n=botoxl@CPE-121-217-41-106.lnse1.cht.bigpond.net.au) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 22:10 | |
| *fewa (n=fewa@unaffiliated/fewa) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 22:10 | |
| *trmanco (n=trmanco@unaffiliated/trmanco) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 22:10 | |
| *tessier (n=treed@kernel-panic/sex-machines) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 22:10 | |
| *cubezzz (n=cubeman@maxhost.org) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 22:10 | |
| *benJIman (n=benji@benjiweber.co.uk) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 22:10 | |
| *ambroff (n=ambroff@65-113-99-90.dia.static.qwest.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 22:10 | |
| *zoobab (i=zoobab@vic.ffii.org) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 22:10 | |
| *BNi () has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 22:10 | |
| *Balrog (n=BRBT@129.32.100.56) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 22:10 | |
| *logger_bot (n=roy@baine.smb.man.ac.uk) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 22:10 | |
| *jmpnop (n=vacit@94.229.57.45) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 22:10 | |
| *ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 22:10 | |
| *irc.freenode.net gives channel operator status to [H]omer ChanServ | Oct 29 22:10 | |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz | Oct 29 22:11 | |
| shreddar | what happend? | Oct 29 22:11 |
| _goblin | net split? | Oct 29 22:11 |
| _goblin | I didn't go anywhere.... | Oct 29 22:11 |
| _goblin | I don't think Roy did either. | Oct 29 22:11 |
| treestrump | holmes.freenode.net irc.freenode.net all from that address dropped off | Oct 29 22:11 |
| shreddar | oh | Oct 29 22:11 |
| schestowitz | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/10/security-issue-in-gnome-lets-anyone-see.html | Oct 29 22:11 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: OMG! UBUNTU!: Did You Know Gnome Lets Anyone See Your Keyring Passwords (MSN, WiFi, Twitter, etc) Without Needing A Password? .::. Size~: 86.65 KB | Oct 29 22:11 |
| schestowitz | [22:09] <_goblin> ? | Oct 29 22:12 |
| schestowitz | [22:09] <_goblin> did someone let one go? | Oct 29 22:12 |
| schestowitz | http://icewalkerz.blogspot.com/2009/10/ubuntu-karmic-changes-between-grub-1x.html | Oct 29 22:13 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: IceWalkerZ :- Born Free Live Free !!: Ubuntu Karmic : Changes between Grub 1.x and Grub2 .::. Size~: 87.69 KB | Oct 29 22:13 |
| schestowitz | is 2.0 stable yet? | Oct 29 22:14 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Vote for Sue Gardner, director of Wikimedia Foundation, as HuffPost media game-changer of the year http://bit.ly/2Q85NU #wikipedia | Oct 29 22:15 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: HuffPost Game Changers: Who Is The Ultimate Game Changer In Media? .::. Size~: 92.48 KB | Oct 29 22:16 |
| shreddar | advanced text editor? | Oct 29 22:17 |
| _goblin | just getting Chromium into 9.10.... | Oct 29 22:19 |
| shreddar | You use Chromium? | Oct 29 22:21 |
| shreddar | I've been using the dev build | Oct 29 22:21 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Spiffing....Chromium now installed in 9.10....almost there....got my wobbly windows, now just a few more bits and pieces.... | Oct 29 22:21 | |
| *Received a CTCP VERSION from freenode-connect | Oct 29 22:22 | |
| _goblin | yeah | Oct 29 22:22 |
| _goblin | currently running 4.0.226.0 | Oct 29 22:22 |
| _goblin | I think | Oct 29 22:22 |
| shreddar | I wonder if gentoo has a ebuild of the latest snapshot | Oct 29 22:23 |
| shreddar | I gotta have atleast some form of Chrome. | Oct 29 22:23 |
| shreddar | I just use it too much. | Oct 29 22:24 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: I need to try it some time | Oct 29 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Is Chromium all done? | Oct 29 22:25 |
| shreddar | It's works very well for alpha | Oct 29 22:25 |
| schestowitz | You know what I mean.. | Oct 29 22:25 |
| schestowitz | And if so, why use it? | Oct 29 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Speed? The features? | Oct 29 22:25 |
| schestowitz | My friend uses it, I saw it in action, nothing interesting | Oct 29 22:25 |
| schestowitz | I also installed it for my sister to use | Oct 29 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Just to see what it's like | Oct 29 22:26 |
| shreddar | It still doesn't have the extensions from the Windows version. | Oct 29 22:26 |
| schestowitz | I'd rather support Mozilla | Oct 29 22:26 |
| shreddar | Mozilla will have a similar browser in version 4 | Oct 29 22:26 |
| shreddar | Firefox 4's concept looks just like chrome. | Oct 29 22:27 |
| shreddar | Safari already copied alot from it. | Oct 29 22:28 |
| shreddar | The only feature nobody copying is the unibar. | Oct 29 22:28 |
| MinceR | well, google said they wanted their ideas to be copied. :) | Oct 29 22:28 |
| MinceR | iirc. | Oct 29 22:28 |
| shreddar | I like the Unibar but the Awesome bar still works better. | Oct 29 22:28 |
| shreddar | The result are better in the Awesome bar. | Oct 29 22:29 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 29 22:29 |
| shreddar | If they could give the Unibar the quality result that the Awesome bar has I'd love it. | Oct 29 22:29 |
| shreddar | I forget what they call the Awesome bar now. I'm so used to calling it that. | Oct 29 22:30 |
| _goblin | I think Chromium renders faster...java input boxes are less sluggish....I got hooked on Chromium when I went on holiday and had to use that XP netbook...... | Oct 29 22:32 |
| shreddar | Hey guy should I upgrade to Kubuntu 9.10? | Oct 29 22:33 |
| shreddar | My update is asking. | Oct 29 22:33 |
| shreddar | Who wants to take responsibility for my actions? | Oct 29 22:34 |
| MinceR | you! | Oct 29 22:34 |
| shreddar | I'm gonna do it. | Oct 29 22:35 |
| MinceR | then it's only fair that you take responsibility for it :> | Oct 29 22:36 |
| _goblin | I think you should! | Oct 29 22:36 |
| _goblin | upgrade that is. | Oct 29 22:36 |
| _goblin | clean install though.... | Oct 29 22:37 |
| shreddar | I I'm doing the upgrade thing right now. Not clean install. | Oct 29 22:38 |
| *_Hicham_ (n=hicham@wana-195-245-12-196.wanamaroc.com) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 22:40 | |
| shreddar | Allright this will take about 2 hours. | Oct 29 22:44 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOy5HNIKVFs&feature=related | Oct 29 22:44 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - Rothschilds need to save "The System" BBC .::. Size~: 130.03 KB | Oct 29 22:44 |
| schestowitz | Funny. | Oct 29 22:44 |
| schestowitz | "It will pass through" | Oct 29 22:44 |
| schestowitz | They are above the law :-) | Oct 29 22:44 |
| *gargoyle-grin has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | Oct 29 22:44 | |
| _goblin | according to the youtube benchmark on my latest article (filmed in realtime) theres a good deal of difference in boottime between 9.04 and 9.10....9.10 won hands down. | Oct 29 22:47 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @wikileaks SirsiDynix restricted slanderous lobbying paper against Open Source technologies http://tinyurl.com/wlsirsi | Oct 29 22:49 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: SirsiDynix Corp restricted lobby paper against Open Source technologies, Sep 2009 - Wikileaks .::. Size~: 17.49 KB | Oct 29 22:50 |
| *shreddar has quit (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) | Oct 29 22:51 | |
| *Balrog_ (n=Balrog@pool-173-59-71-55.phlapa.east.verizon.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 22:52 | |
| *magentar has quit (Remote closed the connection) | Oct 29 22:53 | |
| *_goblin has quit ("Ex-Chat") | Oct 29 23:06 | |
| schestowitz | interesting leak | Oct 29 23:07 |
| schestowitz | Yikes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BnLozS-TnM&NR=1 | Oct 29 23:08 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - Barack Obama Makes Shocking confession!! .::. Size~: 98.13 KB | Oct 29 23:08 |
| schestowitz | Heh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZHIVSI1Bh8&NR=1&feature=fvwp | Oct 29 23:12 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - Obama to Tennessee GOP: Lay Off My Wife .::. Size~: 186.55 KB | Oct 29 23:12 |
| *oiaohm (n=oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #boycottnovell | Oct 29 23:17 | |
| *PetoKraus has quit (Client Quit) | Oct 29 23:19 | |
| *wallc has quit ("Page closed") | Oct 29 23:20 | |
| schestowitz | *LOL* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMMklhX74_w&feature=related | Oct 29 23:22 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - Kevin James and Chris Matthews on Appeasement .::. Size~: 128.33 KB | Oct 29 23:22 |
| oiaohm | This up coming 12 months is going to be fun with Linux. All most all the core frameworks are in place. Its just finishing off the details. | Oct 29 23:25 |
| voltronw | oiaohm: which core frameworks? | Oct 29 23:26 |
| oiaohm | policykit and dbus those just need to be filled out to do proper system management. There is the upcoming realtime kit for cpu control for time critical things like audio. X11 newish core design. | Oct 29 23:31 |
| oiaohm | Basically most of the areas people complain about Linux being weak. | Oct 29 23:32 |
| oiaohm | Biggest remaining bug bear is the 2 sound servers but its a major improvement over the 15 there used to be. pulseaudio and jack. | Oct 29 23:33 |
| schestowitz | THis one's good too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVndfV4--5g&feature=related\ | Oct 29 23:33 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - Chris Matthews Smacks Down Birther Rep. Campbell; Makes Him Admit Obama is U.S. Citizen .::. Size~: 132.95 KB | Oct 29 23:33 |
| oiaohm | You know what MS attacking crap ware is good for Linux. | Oct 29 23:39 |
| oiaohm | Thinking hardware makers use crapware to offset the price of windows until is negitative. | Oct 29 23:40 |
| oiaohm | Hmm media reporting companies are almost to the point of reporting as if Windows 7 don't exist. | Oct 29 23:41 |
| oiaohm | HWposion in 2.6.32 is also going to be good. Tollerence to bad ram ok you have to have more expensive ram to have it but it will be worth it. | Oct 29 23:43 |
| schestowitz | Done *TADA* http://boycottnovell.com/2009/10/29/ubuntu-9-10-released/ | Oct 29 23:45 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Links 29/10/2009: Ubuntu 9.10 Released, Android Momentum Noted, 100,000,000 Downloads of OpenOffice.org | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 161.84 KB | Oct 29 23:45 |
| schestowitz | Oops. I i forgot OOo version NUMBER | Oct 29 23:46 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, exactly | Oct 29 23:46 |
| schestowitz | They can't compete with a bad OS and price also | Oct 29 23:46 |
| *schestowitz makes dinner | Oct 29 23:47 | |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.6 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
