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| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : hi | Nov 15 00:00 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : what kind of drink ? | Nov 15 00:00 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Wine 1.1.33 is Released http://www.winehq.org/announce/1.1.33 | Nov 15 00:00 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz Canonical thing is interesting. You can run your own *in-house* cloud and buy EC2 capacity when you get slashdotted. | Nov 15 00:01 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] No Public Inquiry Into Allegations Of UK Troops Abusing Iraqi Detainees | The Digital Prism http://tinyurl.com/ygz8gc5 | Nov 15 00:02 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz the trick is that the exact same server image can be run on your machines or on amazon's. really easy. | Nov 15 00:02 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux #Kernel Space Gets Good #Graphics Drivers http://ur1.ca/fskq http://ur1.ca/fskr | Nov 15 00:02 | |
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| *_Hicham_ is starting openSchestowitz project, since schestowitz is a proprietary piece of software, http://www.openschestowitz.com | Nov 15 00:03 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] No Public Inquiry Into Allegations Of UK Troops Abusing Iraqi Detainees http://tinyurl.com/ygz8gc5 | Nov 15 00:04 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Sorry about the double post, I didn't think the URL went through first time, it apparently did | Nov 15 00:06 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @davidgerard yes, I heard of torrents/p2p used for this purpose... at least theoretically | Nov 15 00:08 | |
| hicham_ | schestowitz is very busy ATM | Nov 15 00:09 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Twidge and #Gwibber 2.0 for #GNU #Linux - from #CommandLine to #GUI http://ur1.ca/fsl7 http://ur1.ca/fsl8 | Nov 15 00:09 | |
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| schestowitz | hicham_: not too busy to chat :-) | Nov 15 00:10 |
| *_Hicham_ has quit (Nick collision from services.) | Nov 15 00:11 | |
| *hicham_ is now known as _Hicham_ | Nov 15 00:11 | |
| *_Hicham_ thinks that schestowitz just found a girlfriend on BN | Nov 15 00:12 | |
| _Hicham_ | the pb is that gf uses Mono | Nov 15 00:12 |
| _Hicham_ | so he is trying to convince her to remove it from her Ubuntu system | Nov 15 00:12 |
| schestowitz | My ex girlfriends used WIndows | Nov 15 00:13 |
| _Hicham_ | now schestowitz is confessing | Nov 15 00:13 |
| _Hicham_ | was she using .NET ? | Nov 15 00:13 |
| _Hicham_ | did u hand SUSE to her ? | Nov 15 00:14 |
| schestowitz | Don't know | Nov 15 00:14 |
| schestowitz | IIRC one of them I offered SUSE | Nov 15 00:14 |
| schestowitz | But I wasn't ready to become Support Guy | Nov 15 00:14 |
| _Hicham_ | even a Bed Support Guy ? | Nov 15 00:14 |
| schestowitz | Not prepared for *that* kind of relationship... with WIndows you can direct them to other people | Nov 15 00:14 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: actually, I don't care about a g/f's computer | Nov 15 00:15 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : what do u care about ? | Nov 15 00:15 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : their firmwares ? | Nov 15 00:15 |
| schestowitz | But I used to joke about it | Nov 15 00:15 |
| schestowitz | A g/f of mine who was French I told that I would use her "combinatuer" | Nov 15 00:16 |
| _Hicham_ | "look, if u want to be my girl, u should stop using Windows or SUSE" | Nov 15 00:16 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: no, besides the point | Nov 15 00:16 |
| schestowitz | Basically, there are computers everywhere | Nov 15 00:16 |
| schestowitz | I talk about computers with friends who are also in Computer Science | Nov 15 00:17 |
| schestowitz | They can support themselves | Nov 15 00:17 |
| _Hicham_ | but u should spread linux culture ... | Nov 15 00:17 |
| schestowitz | From others I can get questions that lead nowhere, frustration from both sides | Nov 15 00:17 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: yes, I should, but in another way | Nov 15 00:17 |
| schestowitz | It takes great patience to hold someone's hand through a whole OS migration | Nov 15 00:18 |
| *Tallken has quit ("Leaving") | Nov 15 00:18 | |
| _Hicham_ | Ubuntu and Mandriva offer a migration wizard ... | Nov 15 00:18 |
| schestowitz | Today I helped my brother with Windows | Nov 15 00:18 |
| _Hicham_ | that is bad | Nov 15 00:18 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: yes, not enough | Nov 15 00:18 |
| schestowitz | People look for 'their' apps | Nov 15 00:18 |
| _Hicham_ | suggest wine then | Nov 15 00:19 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: no, it was basic | Nov 15 00:19 |
| schestowitz | He needed to get his laptop's screen extended to another monitor | Nov 15 00:19 |
| schestowitz | I did this with win98 when I was like 19 | Nov 15 00:19 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: not simple | Nov 15 00:19 |
| schestowitz | They don't know what wine is | Nov 15 00:19 |
| schestowitz | Or how it works | Nov 15 00:19 |
| schestowitz | You need to show them | Nov 15 00:19 |
| schestowitz | Saying, RTFM leads nowhere | Nov 15 00:19 |
| schestowitz | They don't want videos, either. They want a person showing them | Nov 15 00:20 |
| _Hicham_ | why not be that person ? | Nov 15 00:20 |
| _Hicham_ | that is how Windows spread all over the world | Nov 15 00:20 |
| _Hicham_ | people were "recommending windows" | Nov 15 00:20 |
| _Hicham_ | so we should recommend linux right now | Nov 15 00:20 |
| schestowitz | No | Nov 15 00:21 |
| schestowitz | OEMS 'recommend' WIndows | Nov 15 00:21 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #MPlayer Masters HD-DVD/Blu-Ray and #FFmpeg Has VDPAU MPEG-4 ASP Acceleration http://ur1.ca/fslu http://ur1.ca/fslv | Nov 15 00:21 | |
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| schestowitz | And shove it down peopel's thorats anyway | Nov 15 00:22 |
| schestowitz | Microodst paid them to lie with "recommends" | Nov 15 00:22 |
| schestowitz | They don't do that | Nov 15 00:22 |
| schestowitz | For the rest, it's about pretending there is no option | Nov 15 00:22 |
| schestowitz | Or redefine option | Nov 15 00:22 |
| schestowitz | Like "Freedom" gets redefined | Nov 15 00:22 |
| schestowitz | Choice= Which Windows editions? | Nov 15 00:22 |
| schestowitz | Freedom = how much does it COST? | Nov 15 00:22 |
| _Hicham_ | I don't talk about cost when talking about Linux | Nov 15 00:23 |
| _Hicham_ | and that is not the spirit of GNU | Nov 15 00:23 |
| _Hicham_ | it is not about COST | Nov 15 00:23 |
| _Hicham_ | we can charge as much as we want for Linux | Nov 15 00:23 |
| _Hicham_ | Linux developers should be richer than Windows one | Nov 15 00:24 |
| _Hicham_ | Linux is not about charity | Nov 15 00:24 |
| _Hicham_ | it is about freedom | Nov 15 00:24 |
| _Hicham_ | and we can't have freedom without having money | Nov 15 00:24 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #UltraEdit Comes to #GNU #Linux http://bit.ly/25y8iD | Nov 15 00:24 | |
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| _Hicham_ | schestowitz is promoting proprietary software | Nov 15 00:25 |
| _Hicham_ | plz stop promoting that stuff | Nov 15 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:24] <_Hicham_> it is about freedom | Nov 15 00:26 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: then you need to explin freedom | Nov 15 00:26 |
| schestowitz | It's like when someone asks about programs | Nov 15 00:26 |
| schestowitz | Then you need to explain P/Ls... compilers... semi-conductors... physics... | Nov 15 00:26 |
| schestowitz | People don't know whatb freedom means | Nov 15 00:26 |
| schestowitz | Until they lose it | Nov 15 00:26 |
| schestowitz | So you need to start with the basic | Nov 15 00:26 |
| _Hicham_ | this is how i explain things to people | Nov 15 00:26 |
| schestowitz | They think only in IMMEDIATE paractical terms like "security" | Nov 15 00:26 |
| schestowitz | "Will it have no viruses?" | Nov 15 00:27 |
| schestowitz | They say the same thing about many things that now remove their freedom? | Nov 15 00:27 |
| _Hicham_ | linux is better because it is developed by the whole world | Nov 15 00:27 |
| schestowitz | "PATRIOT acts? Meh, sounds good, let it be..." | Nov 15 00:27 |
| _Hicham_ | if u use Linux, u will not have to use an anti-virus | Nov 15 00:27 |
| schestowitz | [00:27] <_Hicham_> linux is better because it is developed by the whole world | Nov 15 00:28 |
| schestowitz | But people are isolated | Nov 15 00:28 |
| schestowitz | They are tamed to trust brands, not other people | Nov 15 00:28 |
| schestowitz | Like "coder in mother's basement" (the mythology) | Nov 15 00:28 |
| _Hicham_ | no, I don't show it like that | Nov 15 00:28 |
| _Hicham_ | i say that it is developed by all companies | Nov 15 00:29 |
| _Hicham_ | and by individual people and scholars | Nov 15 00:29 |
| _Hicham_ | so it performs well | Nov 15 00:29 |
| _Hicham_ | it is more secure | Nov 15 00:29 |
| _Hicham_ | the cost thing doesn't exist in here | Nov 15 00:29 |
| _Hicham_ | no one uses a genuine windows | Nov 15 00:29 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #KDE Master Say "Thank you!", #Vista7 Left Behind http://ur1.ca/fsm7 http://ur1.ca/fsm8 | Nov 15 00:29 | |
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| schestowitz | _Hicham_: yes, I say companies too | Nov 15 00:30 |
| schestowitz | Said it to a mate the other dau | Nov 15 00:30 |
| schestowitz | *Day | Nov 15 00:30 |
| schestowitz | But I don't want to be there teaching them how to use it | Nov 15 00:30 |
| schestowitz | I at least make them aware that it's a viable options, available now from Dell UK | Nov 15 00:30 |
| _Hicham_ | Ubuntu should get more GUI config stuff | Nov 15 00:31 |
| _Hicham_ | the Ubuntu Software Center is a good start | Nov 15 00:32 |
| _Hicham_ | maybe if there drop the Aptdaemon part of the code, other distros can adopt it | Nov 15 00:32 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Old and New #Games for #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/fsmd http://ur1.ca/fsmf http://ur1.ca/fskb http://ur1.ca/fsmg | Nov 15 00:32 | |
| _Hicham_ | Ubuntu Software Center should be 100% PackageKit | Nov 15 00:32 |
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| _Hicham_ | Schestowitz Software Center : install software from BN directly, nothing is required ... | Nov 15 00:34 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: tell jono, maybe he'll pass it on | Nov 15 00:34 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: we don't have capacity for repos :-) | Nov 15 00:35 |
| schestowitz | Maybe you can set us up with a hot DC in Morocco? | Nov 15 00:35 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : soon it will be | Nov 15 00:35 |
| schestowitz | We'll put the whooel Debian repo there | Nov 15 00:36 |
| schestowitz | Over 20GB of software | Nov 15 00:36 |
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| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : but u gotta change the name | Nov 15 00:36 |
| schestowitz | The mono (monkey) we can put in Morocco zoo. | Nov 15 00:36 |
| _Hicham_ | i don't plan to attack campanies | Nov 15 00:36 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: you suggested sticking with the name | Nov 15 00:36 |
| schestowitz | I was going to rename the site | Nov 15 00:36 |
| schestowitz | And you resisted, remember? | Nov 15 00:36 |
| _Hicham_ | boycottnovell is very aggressive | Nov 15 00:37 |
| _Hicham_ | yes, I remember | Nov 15 00:37 |
| _Hicham_ | now I am rethinking about it | Nov 15 00:37 |
| _Hicham_ | it could be more efficient if the name is general | Nov 15 00:37 |
| _Hicham_ | a name that reflect the FOSS spirit | Nov 15 00:38 |
| _Hicham_ | fighting a company isn't the point | Nov 15 00:38 |
| schestowitz | Is it wrong to target a company? | Nov 15 00:38 |
| schestowitz | Is it sacred? | Nov 15 00:38 |
| _Hicham_ | if Novell dies, there will be others | Nov 15 00:38 |
| schestowitz | Should we accept all institutions as though they are individuals with feelings and human rights? | Nov 15 00:38 |
| _Hicham_ | Xandros and others | Nov 15 00:39 |
| schestowitz | Xandros is kaput | Nov 15 00:39 |
| schestowitz | Presto got them nowhere | Nov 15 00:39 |
| _Hicham_ | I am just talking about the name | Nov 15 00:39 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Xandros will be acquired soon | Nov 15 00:39 |
| _Hicham_ | it is giving the website a narrow band | Nov 15 00:39 |
| schestowitz | I know | Nov 15 00:39 |
| schestowitz | Not my fault | Nov 15 00:39 |
| schestowitz | I didn't choose the name | Nov 15 00:39 |
| schestowitz | I never liked the name, either | Nov 15 00:40 |
| _Hicham_ | who choosed it ? | Nov 15 00:40 |
| schestowitz | The problem is a subset of Novell | Nov 15 00:40 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: Shane did | Nov 15 00:40 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : is Shane the same as Slater ? | Nov 15 00:41 |
| schestowitz | No | Nov 15 00:41 |
| schestowitz | Slated helped create this channel | Nov 15 00:42 |
| _Hicham_ | well, u should think of choosing a new identity | Nov 15 00:42 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: boycott is actually a surname | Nov 15 00:42 |
| schestowitz | It's not so rude | Nov 15 00:42 |
| schestowitz | The connotation is | Nov 15 00:42 |
| MinceR | boycottmicro$oft? :> | Nov 15 00:43 |
| _Hicham_ | and keep the current name for old visitors | Nov 15 00:43 |
| schestowitz | Trade action is now a dirty word | Nov 15 00:43 |
| schestowitz | Very typical | Nov 15 00:43 |
| schestowitz | As in, response to negative/illegal behaviour is the bad thing | Nov 15 00:44 |
| schestowitz | It's the "terrorism" if you like | Nov 15 00:44 |
| _Hicham_ | the identity is creating more and more bad reactions | Nov 15 00:44 |
| schestowitz | Reminds me of how governments incite people against protesters who defend people from the minority of the opulent | Nov 15 00:44 |
| schestowitz | "Those bad, bad protestors..." | Nov 15 00:44 |
| schestowitz | "Be isolated..." | Nov 15 00:44 |
| schestowitz | "Watch the tube..." | Nov 15 00:44 |
| schestowitz | "Will make y'all happy..." | Nov 15 00:45 |
| _Hicham_ | u r not protesting against novell only | Nov 15 00:45 |
| _Hicham_ | novell was just a sparkle | Nov 15 00:45 |
| schestowitz | There will still be criticism | Nov 15 00:45 |
| schestowitz | Unless you just suck up to brands you get criticised | Nov 15 00:45 |
| schestowitz | But someone needs to make certain observations | Nov 15 00:45 |
| schestowitz | And it ain't gonna be Murdoch | Nov 15 00:46 |
| MinceR | i guess you're going to need a new "brand" once novell dies anyway :) | Nov 15 00:46 |
| schestowitz | People who read BN do so because it says the unique and true things that ought to be said | Nov 15 00:46 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: it might take it a while | Nov 15 00:47 |
| sebsebseb | Nov 15 00:47 | |
| MinceR | indeed | Nov 15 00:47 |
| MinceR | Nov 15 00:47 | |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: | Nov 15 00:47 |
| schestowitz | And there's no "brand" | Nov 15 00:47 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: | Nov 15 00:47 |
| sebsebseb | :) | Nov 15 00:47 |
| schestowitz | It's just a DNS entry for people to know what they can tune into | Nov 15 00:47 |
| schestowitz | Maybe we should give up site name | Nov 15 00:47 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] powertop=best thing ever. this portege R600 gets 4 hrs in XP, 4.7 in Ubuntu 9.10. #windows #fail | Nov 15 00:47 | |
| schestowitz | Just give them static IP address... | Nov 15 00:47 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : u should choose a better dns entry | Nov 15 00:48 |
| sebsebseb | well Vista deleted my data twice! | Nov 15 00:48 |
| schestowitz | And say, "go to 135.xxx..... they have great stuff there" | Nov 15 00:48 |
| MinceR | that wouldn't be very attractive | Nov 15 00:48 |
| MinceR | also, it doesn't port to ipv6 well | Nov 15 00:48 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : people who don't know about MS-Novell deal won't find it | Nov 15 00:48 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: good, it tells you to sod off and go back to GNU/Linux :-) | Nov 15 00:48 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: heh I guess | Nov 15 00:48 |
| sebsebseb | yeah I was re installing Vista | Nov 15 00:48 |
| sebsebseb | twice and Ubuntu since.. | Nov 15 00:49 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : u should think about it seriously | Nov 15 00:49 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it does | Nov 15 00:49 |
| schestowitz | Just add more digits | Nov 15 00:49 |
| schestowitz | Give it to them in binary | Nov 15 00:49 |
| schestowitz | Can a human brain store binary well? | Nov 15 00:49 |
| MinceR | not really | Nov 15 00:49 |
| schestowitz | 128 conditions in a series? | Nov 15 00:49 |
| MinceR | also, it won't be the same address as the ipv4 one | Nov 15 00:49 |
| schestowitz | People think in digits | Nov 15 00:49 |
| schestowitz | Decimal | Nov 15 00:49 |
| schestowitz | Like fingers | Nov 15 00:49 |
| sebsebseb | first time i thought it was me that had maybe deleted that partition, so I was using a program to get hold of stuff again | Nov 15 00:49 |
| schestowitz | Some thing in sound... like muscle memory | Nov 15 00:49 |
| MinceR | people's short-term memory is typically limited to 7+-2 units | Nov 15 00:50 |
| MinceR | including digits | Nov 15 00:50 |
| schestowitz | So they count time visually or vocally | Nov 15 00:50 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : so ur final word is no ? | Nov 15 00:50 |
| schestowitz | They can multitask with reading based on how they view time/sequences in their heads | Nov 15 00:50 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: not now anyway | Nov 15 00:50 |
| MinceR | i've heard of an idea to use a list of 65536 words to translate the 4-digit groups of ipv6 addresses into words, to make them easier to remember | Nov 15 00:50 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, thus menu item grouping in 7 | Nov 15 00:50 |
| sebsebseb | second time was after I had installed Vista again and it had tried to install onto a partition where I already had something or so it seemed, so I told it to install in unalloacted space (or did I, maybe the Vista installer was not showing my partitions correctly) | Nov 15 00:50 |
| sebsebseb | and yep it had deleted my seperate Ext4 Home partition again | Nov 15 00:51 |
| sebsebseb | the new one I had made and moved stuff to | Nov 15 00:51 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : why not now ? | Nov 15 00:51 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: sounds like a non-universal plan | Nov 15 00:51 |
| schestowitz | ALso, ICANN goes non-Latin soon | Nov 15 00:51 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: cause I'm busy with links | Nov 15 00:51 |
| sebsebseb | and this time round well it seems I can't get hold of everything again, and I have no back up, but I haven't lost anything important anyway | Nov 15 00:51 |
| MinceR | icann going non-latin is a stupid idea imo | Nov 15 00:52 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : u should start a suggestion and vote process | Nov 15 00:52 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: they could try the same with number | Nov 15 00:52 |
| schestowitz | *numbers | Nov 15 00:52 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : that is democracy, no ? | Nov 15 00:52 |
| schestowitz | Good luck adding "elephant" and "toothbrush" | Nov 15 00:52 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: technically, it hard to move domains | Nov 15 00:53 |
| schestowitz | It's also constructed under a header as such | Nov 15 00:53 |
| sebsebseb | well I used to quite like Vista well to some extent, but then when I was using it again, I reolized the reason I like Vista is, because the eye candy the default backgrounds and other pictures that come with it, are rather nice, and Ubuntu and most other distros suck really for default eye candy | Nov 15 00:53 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : who is talking about moving ? | Nov 15 00:54 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: we're not blackwater | Nov 15 00:54 |
| schestowitz | I don't think it's important to escape names | Nov 15 00:54 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : who said u should escape names ? | Nov 15 00:54 |
| schestowitz | Blackwater and other forever-nymshifting criminals escape their deeds, not just the name that goes with them | Nov 15 00:54 |
| schestowitz | We didn't do anything wrong | Nov 15 00:54 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fedora 12 Preparations Begin http://ur1.ca/fsn4 http://ur1.ca/fsn5 http://ur1.ca/fsn7 http://ur1.ca/fsn8 | Nov 15 00:54 | |
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| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : u r getting me wrong | Nov 15 00:55 |
| sebsebseb | got my clean install of 9.10, and I prefer 9.04 over all really | Nov 15 00:55 |
| _Hicham_ | sebsebseb : why ? | Nov 15 00:55 |
| sebsebseb | I knew from testing of 9.10 that I probably woudn't be impressed with the final, and indeed this has been the case | Nov 15 00:55 |
| sebsebseb | _Hicham_: well GDM 2 for a start and how it can't be themed like the old one | Nov 15 00:56 |
| _Hicham_ | sebsebseb : it is a work in progress | Nov 15 00:56 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Kubuntu GNU Linux 9.10 Works Very Well (Long Review) http://bit.ly/11qV4Z | Nov 15 00:56 | |
| _Hicham_ | gdm is gonna be merged in gnome | Nov 15 00:57 |
| sebsebseb | hmm? | Nov 15 00:57 |
| _Hicham_ | so that it is not a separate appp | Nov 15 00:57 |
| sebsebseb | oh? | Nov 15 00:57 |
| _Hicham_ | so, for instance, u can choose its background from the gnome-appearance-properties | Nov 15 00:57 |
| _Hicham_ | and u will be able to enable autologin via the About Me dialog | Nov 15 00:58 |
| sebsebseb | ok that sounds like the old one | Nov 15 00:58 |
| _Hicham_ | those are just just example | Nov 15 00:58 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mandriva One 2010 Works Great, 2010.1 Already Under Development http://ur1.ca/fsnf http://ur1.ca/fsng | Nov 15 00:58 | |
| _Hicham_ | no, it is not like the old one | Nov 15 00:58 |
| sebsebseb | well for now I am using KDM instead | Nov 15 00:59 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Mandriva and Me | Vamsi Subhash's Blog .::. Size~: 35.53 KB | Nov 15 00:59 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Mandriva 2010 Spring development has begun « Frederik's Blog .::. Size~: 21.71 KB | Nov 15 00:59 |
| sebsebseb | which I used to not like | Nov 15 00:59 |
| sebsebseb | well Kubuntu KDE 3 KDM | Nov 15 00:59 |
| sebsebseb | ,but this KDE 4 KDM is pretty nice | Nov 15 00:59 |
| _Hicham_ | u will love GDM when it will reach its final state | Nov 15 00:59 |
| sebsebseb | 9.10 sucks for end user features | Nov 15 01:00 |
| _Hicham_ | other features that sucks ? | Nov 15 01:00 |
| sebsebseb | the software centre is nice sure and replaces add/remove nicely, and is going to replace synaptic, and offer commercial apps in the future as well | Nov 15 01:00 |
| sebsebseb | that will become a rather importnat part of Ubuntu I think | Nov 15 01:00 |
| _Hicham_ | yes, and it could be extended to other distros | Nov 15 01:00 |
| sebsebseb | ,but is that worth upgrading from 9.04 just the software centre in 9.10, nope | Nov 15 01:00 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux #Mint 8 Now in Release Candidate http://ur1.ca/fsnk http://ur1.ca/fsnl | Nov 15 01:00 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Linux Mint 8 RC1 released - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 31.52 KB | Nov 15 01:00 |
| sebsebseb | _Hicham_: Mandriva have a sort of software centre as well | Nov 15 01:01 |
| _Hicham_ | sebsebseb : there KMS | Nov 15 01:01 |
| *_goblin (n=goblin@94-193-188-104.zone7.bethere.co.uk) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 15 01:01 | |
| sebsebseb | _Hicham_: KMS??? | Nov 15 01:01 |
| _Hicham_ | sebsebseb : Mandriva doesn't have a software center | Nov 15 01:01 |
| sebsebseb | they have something a bit like add/remove | Nov 15 01:01 |
| _Hicham_ | sebsebseb : Kernel Modesetting | Nov 15 01:01 |
| sebsebseb | if I remember correctly from testing a RC of 2010 | Nov 15 01:01 |
| _Hicham_ | sebsebseb : it is not a software center, it is just a package manager | Nov 15 01:01 |
| *sebsebseb wonderes if 2010 has Ext4 support | Nov 15 01:02 | |
| sebsebseb | it seemed to lack it when I was testing a RC | Nov 15 01:02 |
| _Hicham_ | sebsebseb : it supports ext4 | Nov 15 01:02 |
| sebsebseb | _Hicham_: uhmm centre is the proper spelling :) British English is the only true English | Nov 15 01:02 |
| MinceR | but does it have ext3 support? :) | Nov 15 01:02 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: wrong | Nov 15 01:02 |
| MinceR | it's one of at least 3 englishes | Nov 15 01:02 |
| sebsebseb | British English was first I assume | Nov 15 01:03 |
| sebsebseb | which means it's the true one :) | Nov 15 01:03 |
| MinceR | in that case it can't be the true one | Nov 15 01:03 |
| MinceR | as it has ancestors | Nov 15 01:03 |
| sebsebseb | oh yeah | Nov 15 01:03 |
| _Hicham_ | sebsebseb : Mandriva's partitioner uses libparted | Nov 15 01:03 |
| sebsebseb | the | Nov 15 01:03 |
| MinceR | you'll have to find the proto-languages it's derived from | Nov 15 01:03 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yeah there's the old Engilsh language as well | Nov 15 01:03 |
| MinceR | olde english is a good start | Nov 15 01:03 |
| sebsebseb | ok well in that case in today's world | Nov 15 01:04 |
| sebsebseb | British English is the true English :) | Nov 15 01:04 |
| MinceR | in today's world, you're wrong | Nov 15 01:04 |
| sebsebseb | well American English :( in general | Nov 15 01:04 |
| _Hicham_ | I don't care about true english | Nov 15 01:04 |
| _Hicham_ | it is not my language anyway | Nov 15 01:04 |
| sebsebseb | ,but sometimes there's a word or two that is good from it | Nov 15 01:04 |
| sebsebseb | elevator | Nov 15 01:04 |
| MinceR | i prefer us english, as it seems to be more straightforward :) | Nov 15 01:04 |
| MinceR | but i'm trying to polish my knowledge of the languages so i can take advantage of my knowledge of uk english as well | Nov 15 01:05 |
| sebsebseb | _Hicham_: yeah I know that, but what is your language? | Nov 15 01:05 |
| _Hicham_ | sebsebseb : Arabic | Nov 15 01:05 |
| MinceR | sadly where i learnt english they often ignored this distinction and just taught whatever they knew | Nov 15 01:05 |
| sebsebseb | _Hicham_: oh ok | Nov 15 01:05 |
| _Hicham_ | MinceR : can I tease u a little bit ? | Nov 15 01:06 |
| sebsebseb | I was thinking an Afrian language of some sort | Nov 15 01:06 |
| MinceR | _Hicham_: no | Nov 15 01:06 |
| _Hicham_ | MinceR : why ? | Nov 15 01:06 |
| MinceR | _Hicham_: because i don't like the way you "tease" people :> | Nov 15 01:06 |
| _Hicham_ | MinceR : u r on ur nerves ? | Nov 15 01:06 |
| sebsebseb | _Hicham_: Xsplash something else that I am not that keen on | Nov 15 01:06 |
| _Hicham_ | sebsebseb : they couldn't integrate plymouth | Nov 15 01:07 |
| _Hicham_ | they were planning to, but they failed | Nov 15 01:07 |
| _Hicham_ | Mandriva did a better job | Nov 15 01:07 |
| sebsebseb | _Hicham_: plymouth I think I heard of some program with that name, what is it? | Nov 15 01:07 |
| _Hicham_ | but they failed too | Nov 15 01:07 |
| _Hicham_ | sebsebseb : it is a graphical bootsplash program | Nov 15 01:07 |
| _Hicham_ | sebsebseb : it can uses ur native card resolution | Nov 15 01:08 |
| sebsebseb | well Xplash is a bit hmm white Ubuntu logo in the centre of the screen, and then if GDM 2 is done the Ubuntu bit as well | Nov 15 01:08 |
| sebsebseb | if KDM no Ubuntu bit | Nov 15 01:08 |
| _Hicham_ | sebsebseb : and remove the screen flickering between boot and gdm | Nov 15 01:08 |
| sebsebseb | plus I guess I can't get loads of nice boot up text anymore since Xsplash | Nov 15 01:08 |
| sebsebseb | I like a distro to tell me what it is doing when it's booting :) | Nov 15 01:09 |
| _Hicham_ | Ubuntu is just failing to support Modern Graphics Cards | Nov 15 01:09 |
| _Hicham_ | sebsebseb : with plymouth u have that option | Nov 15 01:09 |
| _Hicham_ | either text or animation | Nov 15 01:09 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Dell Enters Phones Market, Goes with Linux http://ur1.ca/fso2 http://ur1.ca/fso3 http://ur1.ca/fso4 | Nov 15 01:09 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Dell confirms Android-based Mini 3i smartphone - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 32.8 KB | Nov 15 01:09 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: still about? | Nov 15 01:10 |
| sebsebseb | oh there it is notification | Nov 15 01:10 |
| _Hicham_ | MinceR : do u agree on changing BN's name ? | Nov 15 01:10 |
| sebsebseb | in the channel | Nov 15 01:10 |
| sebsebseb | well Friday the 13th bad luck day for my Dad yes, for me not quite | Nov 15 01:10 |
| sebsebseb | even though he wants me to help him fix Windows on the other computer which has messed up big time, after my little brother pressed loads of keys on the keyboard | Nov 15 01:10 |
| MinceR | _Hicham_: i'm kind of undecided on it | Nov 15 01:10 |
| MinceR | there are other evildoers (m$, crApple) around, too, which would make it logical to have a more general name | Nov 15 01:11 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu works fine on there still :) which also meant my older brother wanted me to make an account for him earlier, so he could use Facebook and such on there | Nov 15 01:11 |
| MinceR | also, they will eventually fall -- but that's a thing of the future | Nov 15 01:11 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nokia ’s #Linux #Smartphones the Best Out There in Many Ways http://ur1.ca/fso8 | Nov 15 01:11 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: 15 Ways Nokias N900 Is Better Than Apples iPhone (and 5 ways its not) - Starry Hope Productions .::. Size~: 39.35 KB | Nov 15 01:11 |
| _Hicham_ | sebsebseb : do u like Firefox-3.5 on 9.10 ? | Nov 15 01:12 |
| sebsebseb | boot up error about a missing file or whatever when the XP install boots up, and blue screen of death on the XP CD when trying to repair or maybe install again, which is odd | Nov 15 01:12 |
| sebsebseb | _Hicham_: uhmm wel | Nov 15 01:12 |
| _Hicham_ | sebsebseb : u should a proper format | Nov 15 01:13 |
| sebsebseb | 3.5 built in OGG Vorbix support <video> <sound> and yeah | Nov 15 01:13 |
| sebsebseb | which is good | Nov 15 01:13 |
| sebsebseb | ,but noticable end user features, what is there? nothing? | Nov 15 01:13 |
| sebsebseb | it looks like the previous one to me | Nov 15 01:13 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #WindowsMobile Evaporates Quickly While #Linux Grows http://ur1.ca/fsoi http://ur1.ca/fsoj | Nov 15 01:13 | |
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| phIRCe-local | Title: Why Sony Ericsson is embracing Android - Times Online .::. Size~: 109.68 KB | Nov 15 01:14 |
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| sebsebseb | I tested development version of the next one in Vista this week as well, and that looks like 3.5 to me, but that was expected | Nov 15 01:14 |
| sebsebseb | _Hicham_: uhmm well | Nov 15 01:14 |
| sebsebseb | _Hicham_: he has Outlook emails and such he wants to get hold of. and I made it clear the partition can be accessed from Ubuntu | Nov 15 01:15 |
| _Hicham_ | except the startup time and performance | Nov 15 01:15 |
| sebsebseb | also if the XP CD is Blue Screen Of Deathing that is rather odd | Nov 15 01:15 |
| _Hicham_ | he can use Evolution | Nov 15 01:15 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Days of Convicted Criminals #Intel and #Microsoft Seem Numbered Due to #ARM http://ur1.ca/fsop | Nov 15 01:15 | |
| _Hicham_ | sebsebseb : it is not | Nov 15 01:15 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Techtree.com India > News > Consumer Electronics > Qualcomm's Smartbook is Powered by Snapdragon .::. Size~: 70.09 KB | Nov 15 01:16 |
| _Hicham_ | sebsebseb : i had that issue long time ago | Nov 15 01:16 |
| sebsebseb | _Hicham_: I know what he could use, he could even use a Windows virtual machine on there, even showen him virtualization very briefuly | Nov 15 01:16 |
| sebsebseb | ,but will he want to do that nah | Nov 15 01:16 |
| _Hicham_ | sebsebseb : i solved it by doing a proper partition format | Nov 15 01:16 |
| sebsebseb | he has two lap tops anyway, so he doesn't use that computer much in Windows, but my Mum does | Nov 15 01:16 |
| _Hicham_ | he is stuck to windows ? | Nov 15 01:16 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Roundup of #GNU #Linux Options for Sub-notebooks http://ur1.ca/fsoq | Nov 15 01:16 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Netbook OS news roundup: Chrome, OpenSUSE, Mandriva, Jolicloud .::. Size~: 29.49 KB | Nov 15 01:16 |
| sebsebseb | my Dad is majorely locked in to Microsoft | Nov 15 01:17 |
| sebsebseb | he has been using Windows since uhmm 3.1 I guess | Nov 15 01:17 |
| sebsebseb | so we are talking quite a while here | Nov 15 01:17 |
| _Hicham_ | what does he in Windows ? | Nov 15 01:17 |
| sebsebseb | and he seems to want to use it, because that's what the companies he has worked for have been using and what most other computer users use as well | Nov 15 01:18 |
| _Hicham_ | *use | Nov 15 01:18 |
| _Hicham_ | wow, too sad | Nov 15 01:18 |
| sebsebseb | yep indeed | Nov 15 01:18 |
| schestowitz | [01:04] <_Hicham_> it is not my language anyway | Nov 15 01:18 |
| schestowitz | Part of our numerical system comes from Iraq | Nov 15 01:18 |
| sebsebseb | most people this most people that, ok when it's something bad/odd that someone did, most people woudn't do that | Nov 15 01:19 |
| sebsebseb | ,but when saying about computers | Nov 15 01:19 |
| sebsebseb | most people use Windows | Nov 15 01:19 |
| sebsebseb | most people use Microsoft Office | Nov 15 01:19 |
| sebsebseb | etc | Nov 15 01:19 |
| sebsebseb | well whatever, since most people that use computers, don't even know them that well | Nov 15 01:19 |
| sebsebseb | if anyone gets what I mean | Nov 15 01:19 |
| schestowitz | [01:10] <sebsebseb> schestowitz: still about? | Nov 15 01:19 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: yes, I'm still here | Nov 15 01:19 |
| sebsebseb | sheep as some people call it | Nov 15 01:20 |
| schestowitz | Sheeple | Nov 15 01:20 |
| schestowitz | Dolly is da man! | Nov 15 01:21 |
| shreddar | I have this cool new revolutionary idea that will change the way we use computers forever!!! | Nov 15 01:21 |
| sebsebseb | _Hicham_: times are changing slowly | Nov 15 01:21 |
| sebsebseb | more people going, Firefox, Open Office, Ubuntu, and so on, as time goes on | Nov 15 01:22 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: what does Islam say about gene research? | Nov 15 01:22 |
| _Hicham_ | i love firefox success story | Nov 15 01:22 |
| shreddar | You see we'd have these programs that would be connected through you CPU from all over you harddrive! | Nov 15 01:22 |
| schestowitz | Cause, y'know, maybe we can breed people that are more docile, like sheep [sarcasm] | Nov 15 01:22 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : Islam encourages all kind of research | Nov 15 01:22 |
| shreddar | I thinking of calling it Groundwater Computing. | Nov 15 01:23 |
| schestowitz | Sheeple breed, a hybrid of man's body with sheep's brain... | Nov 15 01:23 |
| sebsebseb | _Hicham_: there was a TV program well I think about three episodes | Nov 15 01:23 |
| sebsebseb | on TV here about | Nov 15 01:23 |
| sebsebseb | I don't know | Nov 15 01:23 |
| sebsebseb | 8 months ago | Nov 15 01:23 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : our prophet was encouraging people to use their minds | Nov 15 01:23 |
| sebsebseb | Islam and Science | Nov 15 01:23 |
| sebsebseb | what Islam has done for Science or something | Nov 15 01:23 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: Islam did harbour some research in the past | Nov 15 01:23 |
| _Hicham_ | Islam is promoting science | Nov 15 01:23 |
| schestowitz | I can't recall the name of the guy who banned it around 10th century | Nov 15 01:23 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] LOL...just had an unexpected laugh from a claimed IT pro...he's been nymshifting on my site and doesn't seem to know how to change his IP. | Nov 15 01:23 | |
| shreddar | I've already gotten a few venders interested. We'll be testing this new concept on our own system soon. | Nov 15 01:24 |
| schestowitz | The middle east was in the cen\tre of intellect until that point | Nov 15 01:24 |
| sebsebseb | I think I recorded it and then just deleted it. was going to watch, but didn't | Nov 15 01:24 |
| schestowitz | Then religion took over | Nov 15 01:24 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : ur doing the same mistake as DaemonFC | Nov 15 01:24 |
| schestowitz | Later Europe went the other way around | Nov 15 01:24 |
| schestowitz | Alexandria is another example, but it was ruled by Europeans | Nov 15 01:24 |
| schestowitz | A lot can happen in 500 years | Nov 15 01:24 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] To Matt Burke and Dean Odley (who are both the same person) would you like me to print a screengrab of your IP? | Nov 15 01:24 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] I wonder how many more naughty little nymshifters have been (badly) trying to cause trouble on my site.... | Nov 15 01:24 | |
| schestowitz | We are not built to cope with changes that occur in 500, let alone 5 | Nov 15 01:25 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : u gotta use ur mind | Nov 15 01:25 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : and read | Nov 15 01:25 |
| schestowitz | Thriving libraries turn to sanctuaries | Nov 15 01:25 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : if u want truth, go to official sources | Nov 15 01:25 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: it's official AFAIK | Nov 15 01:25 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : that is what true researchers do | Nov 15 01:25 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Couldn't have asked for a better way to end the day! Thanks chaps! Next time maybe consider a proxy? | Nov 15 01:25 | |
| schestowitz | Some religious figure banned science | Nov 15 01:26 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : there is no religious figure in Islam except Allah and the Prophet | Nov 15 01:26 |
| schestowitz | After days of Al Gebra | Nov 15 01:26 |
| _Hicham_ | everybody else is a normal human | Nov 15 01:26 |
| schestowitz | OK, so a ruler with religious priority | Nov 15 01:26 |
| _Hicham_ | there is no religious priority either for us | Nov 15 01:27 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: we're all normal humans | Nov 15 01:27 |
| schestowitz | We have similar DNA | Nov 15 01:27 |
| schestowitz | Probably 99.9%+ identical | Nov 15 01:27 |
| _Hicham_ | im not talking about the morphology | Nov 15 01:27 |
| schestowitz | Too much deviation and there would be not even a successful birth | Nov 15 01:27 |
| _Hicham_ | the Prophet is human as well | Nov 15 01:27 |
| schestowitz | Yes, we're all organisms | Nov 15 01:27 |
| _Hicham_ | except that he received the Message from God | Nov 15 01:28 |
| schestowitz | Matter and energy | Nov 15 01:28 |
| _Hicham_ | and he was illetrate | Nov 15 01:28 |
| shreddar | What are you guy's talking about now frogs? | Nov 15 01:28 |
| schestowitz | shreddar: frogs are nice creatures too | Nov 15 01:28 |
| schestowitz | Fit to live in water and land | Nov 15 01:28 |
| schestowitz | We humans are crippled | Nov 15 01:28 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : we are not matter and energy only | Nov 15 01:28 |
| schestowitz | We can only live in land | Nov 15 01:28 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : we are more than that | Nov 15 01:28 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : we are not crippled | Nov 15 01:29 |
| schestowitz | Even birds are up laughing and literally sh*tting on us | Nov 15 01:29 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : we do have minds | Nov 15 01:29 |
| schestowitz | We have poor mobility | Nov 15 01:29 |
| schestowitz | We have legs, not wheels | Nov 15 01:29 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : we just don't use our mind well | Nov 15 01:29 |
| schestowitz | And we can't travel by air, so energy-inefficient, lots of frictions | Nov 15 01:29 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : are u talking seriously ? | Nov 15 01:29 |
| schestowitz | Yes, but partly jokingly | Nov 15 01:30 |
| schestowitz | For your entertainment | Nov 15 01:30 |
| schestowitz | Trying to evoke reaction from you | Nov 15 01:30 |
| _Hicham_ | huh | Nov 15 01:30 |
| schestowitz | IIRC actually, when Einstein's younger sister was born he asked his parents why she don't have wheels | Nov 15 01:30 |
| schestowitz | Sane question | Nov 15 01:30 |
| schestowitz | That's science | Nov 15 01:31 |
| _Hicham_ | u know that I am one of the big jokers in here | Nov 15 01:31 |
| schestowitz | Asking questions, not taking anything for granted | Nov 15 01:31 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: No, I challenge you now! | Nov 15 01:31 |
| _Hicham_ | nothing is granted | Nov 15 01:31 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Nov 15 01:31 |
| _Hicham_ | u gotta ask | Nov 15 01:31 |
| _Hicham_ | u gotta use ur mind | Nov 15 01:31 |
| schestowitz | So why not question man in sky? | Nov 15 01:31 |
| _Hicham_ | if u don't use ur mind, ur dead | Nov 15 01:31 |
| schestowitz | [or woman in sky] | Nov 15 01:31 |
| _Hicham_ | man in sky ? | Nov 15 01:31 |
| schestowitz | I think God is an abstract idea, but I'm sure she loves me :-) | Nov 15 01:32 |
| MinceR | 022639 < _Hicham_> if u don't use ur mind, ur dead | Nov 15 01:32 |
| MinceR | sadly it doesn't work that way | Nov 15 01:32 |
| _Hicham_ | MinceR : that is just a figure | Nov 15 01:32 |
| MinceR | if it did, we wouldn't have overpopulation or m$ :> | Nov 15 01:32 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : God is abstract of course | Nov 15 01:32 |
| MinceR | nor crApple, nor novell | Nov 15 01:32 |
| _Hicham_ | MinceR : Torvalds uses PowerPC | Nov 15 01:33 |
| MinceR | so what? | Nov 15 01:33 |
| MinceR | PPC isn't crApple | Nov 15 01:33 |
| *schestowitz listens to Jamiroquai - 04 - If I Like It, I Do It | Nov 15 01:33 | |
| MinceR | and now crApple doesn't even use PPC anymore | Nov 15 01:33 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : I think that people have a misconception | Nov 15 01:33 |
| shreddar | Coming in on the middle of a highly philosophical conversation feels a lot like coming in on a homeless person preaching to the daily commuters. | Nov 15 01:34 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: it's not so powerful for "Power" PC | Nov 15 01:34 |
| *MinceR is listening to: Necrite - Nocturnal | Nov 15 01:34 | |
| _Hicham_ | MinceR : they turned to Intel, the immortal Intel | Nov 15 01:34 |
| schestowitz | Power users use commodity h/w with real power | Nov 15 01:34 |
| schestowitz | Linus uses command line in Fedora | Nov 15 01:34 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : people use to think in a limited way | Nov 15 01:34 |
| schestowitz | I wonder if he kisses the logo on his Linux box before bedtime | Nov 15 01:34 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : we had great philosophers who talked about the genesis of the universe | Nov 15 01:35 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: yes, Apple won't use AMD, either | Nov 15 01:35 |
| schestowitz | Apple support a criminal company | Nov 15 01:35 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : I don't know if these books are translated | Nov 15 01:35 |
| schestowitz | Apple grants another monopoly to a criminal organisation, Intel | Nov 15 01:35 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : they are really great books of philosophy | Nov 15 01:35 |
| shreddar | I thought IBM did that. | Nov 15 01:35 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: some advocate genocide | Nov 15 01:36 |
| shreddar | A long time ago. | Nov 15 01:36 |
| schestowitz | Being selective is easy | Nov 15 01:36 |
| schestowitz | These are high-volume books | Nov 15 01:36 |
| schestowitz | Mix-n-match.. cherry-picking wisdom | Nov 15 01:36 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : what books are u talking about ? | Nov 15 01:36 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: many of these books tell you to kill daemonFC | Nov 15 01:37 |
| schestowitz | If not all of them | Nov 15 01:37 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : ur gone out of ur mind | Nov 15 01:37 |
| Omar87 | Hi all. | Nov 15 01:37 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : I am talking to u as a researcher | Nov 15 01:37 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : aren't u a researcher in biophysics ? | Nov 15 01:38 |
| schestowitz | SOme lovely people who were good to their faith murdered abortionists | Nov 15 01:38 |
| Omar87 | Anyone know how to add a new blank page in a document in OO Writer? | Nov 15 01:38 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they should go further also kill all "sperm spillers" too | Nov 15 01:38 |
| Omar87 | knows* | Nov 15 01:38 |
| _Hicham_ | Omar87 : Ctrl-Enter | Nov 15 01:38 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: yes, but.. | Nov 15 01:38 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : I don't know what ur talking about | Nov 15 01:39 |
| shreddar | Those people were pro death apparently. | Nov 15 01:39 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_ is a OOo cowboy | Nov 15 01:39 |
| schestowitz | BTW, I learned today that US youth is brainwash so as to prepare for South American invasions, mostly with Chavez in mind | Nov 15 01:39 |
| schestowitz | They paint these people are the "bad guys" in films now | Nov 15 01:40 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : I see that ur not prepared for a proper discussion | Nov 15 01:40 |
| schestowitz | Preparation for another "boogey man" | Nov 15 01:40 |
| _Hicham_ | so I am gonna go back to joking | Nov 15 01:40 |
| _Hicham_ | let's joke, over and over again | Nov 15 01:40 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: maybe they'll leave the east alone for a while | Nov 15 01:40 |
| schestowitz | They found oil in Venezuela | Nov 15 01:40 |
| schestowitz | So they can just slaughter and invade other "brown people" in their own continents | Nov 15 01:41 |
| schestowitz | "their"..."own" | Nov 15 01:41 |
| schestowitz | US="America" | Nov 15 01:41 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : the US is gonna fall from within itself | Nov 15 01:41 |
| _Hicham_ | they don't need externel intervention | Nov 15 01:41 |
| schestowitz | What about the USD? | Nov 15 01:42 |
| _Hicham_ | it is basically a house of cards | Nov 15 01:42 |
| schestowitz | I don't want them to fall | Nov 15 01:42 |
| schestowitz | I have family there... | Nov 15 01:42 |
| schestowitz | They need to fix themselves | Nov 15 01:42 |
| schestowitz | There are many good, informed people there | Nov 15 01:42 |
| schestowitz | Overwhelmed by thugs like Murdoch and Nixon... | Nov 15 01:42 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : everything has an end | Nov 15 01:42 |
| schestowitz | Not really | Nov 15 01:42 |
| schestowitz | UK and Italy still around and doing fine | Nov 15 01:42 |
| schestowitz | Long after empire era | Nov 15 01:43 |
| _Hicham_ | huh, look how a biophysics guy talks | Nov 15 01:43 |
| schestowitz | What?? | Nov 15 01:43 |
| schestowitz | What did I say, _Hicham_? | Nov 15 01:43 |
| _Hicham_ | those are laws of the nature | Nov 15 01:43 |
| _Hicham_ | nothing lasts forever | Nov 15 01:43 |
| schestowitz | OF course | Nov 15 01:43 |
| schestowitz | Not even our planet | Nov 15 01:43 |
| MinceR | both intel and amd are bad | Nov 15 01:44 |
| schestowitz | But why accelerate and exacerbate issues? | Nov 15 01:44 |
| MinceR | that's a no-win choice | Nov 15 01:44 |
| *shreddar think political talk can cause unhealthy side affects. | Nov 15 01:44 | |
| schestowitz | x86 only | Nov 15 01:44 |
| schestowitz | Bring out SPARC, ARM.. | Nov 15 01:44 |
| _goblin | "nothing lasts forever" - Isn't that true in itself? pre-big bang, post big crunch? | Nov 15 01:44 |
| schestowitz | Let's see /real/ competition, not patent swaps | Nov 15 01:44 |
| MinceR | but can you get decent 3d acceleration outside x86? | Nov 15 01:44 |
| _Hicham_ | who could think that the Islamic Empire would end some day ? | Nov 15 01:44 |
| _Hicham_ | no one at the time | Nov 15 01:44 |
| _Hicham_ | who could imagine that the Pharaon's Civilization will disappear ? | Nov 15 01:45 |
| _Hicham_ | the greek one ? | Nov 15 01:45 |
| _Hicham_ | u should learn from history | Nov 15 01:45 |
| schestowitz | Who knew belly of the Earth had limited supply of fossil fuel? | Nov 15 01:45 |
| _Hicham_ | yes, for example | Nov 15 01:45 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: who, me? | Nov 15 01:45 |
| schestowitz | I'm agreeing with you | Nov 15 01:45 |
| *shreddar (i=62f0385c@gateway/web/freenode/x-csdduvigysctsvln) has left #boycottnovell | Nov 15 01:46 | |
| schestowitz | You needn' convince me :-) | Nov 15 01:46 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : when oil will vanish, u will see a new war | Nov 15 01:46 |
| schestowitz | The big business is like a drunken gambler now, or a junkie on narcotic drugs | Nov 15 01:46 |
| schestowitz | Keeping on digging more holes in the ground | Nov 15 01:47 |
| schestowitz | Looking for more crack | Nov 15 01:47 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : look at how the US becomes when there is an oil outage | Nov 15 01:47 |
| schestowitz | ANd at the same time building "HUMMER" cars and buying Plasma TVs | Nov 15 01:47 |
| schestowitz | Like they need home cinema with screen size that compensate for size of their pecker | Nov 15 01:47 |
| _Hicham_ | nothing lasts forever | Nov 15 01:47 |
| schestowitz | Sooner or later it all collapses | Nov 15 01:47 |
| schestowitz | And the lender comes raiding the house for goods | Nov 15 01:47 |
| schestowitz | It's happening right now actually | Nov 15 01:48 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : more than 40% of US citizens don't have health insurance | Nov 15 01:48 |
| schestowitz | But taking its toll on the Chinese too | Nov 15 01:48 |
| schestowitz | They are the asemblers of these luxuries, for $.5./day | Nov 15 01:48 |
| schestowitz | *Assemblers | Nov 15 01:48 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: that's 'good', part of the plan | Nov 15 01:48 |
| schestowitz | Not the health plan | Nov 15 01:48 |
| schestowitz | The plan to control population | Nov 15 01:49 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : nothing lasts forever ... | Nov 15 01:49 |
| _Hicham_ | population is getting angry more and more | Nov 15 01:49 |
| schestowitz | Health as a luxury for the rich | Nov 15 01:49 |
| schestowitz | Even trivially-curable illlnesses | Nov 15 01:49 |
| schestowitz | Scarcity of drugs = abundance of human death | Nov 15 01:49 |
| _Hicham_ | a lot of people die from cold and flu | Nov 15 01:49 |
| schestowitz | Price of life rises | Nov 15 01:49 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: 'wine' flu | Nov 15 01:50 |
| schestowitz | *swine - The new panix factor | Nov 15 01:50 |
| schestowitz | *panix | Nov 15 01:50 |
| schestowitz | *>panic | Nov 15 01:50 |
| schestowitz | !google bankers swine flu | Nov 15 01:50 |
| phIRCe-local | [1] - Wall Street bankers at front of queue for scarce swine flu vaccine ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/nov/06/wall-street-bankers-swine-flue | Nov 15 01:50 |
| phIRCe-local | [2] - Wall Street bankers shouldn't get H1N1 vaccine, group says ... | http://www.marketwatch.com/story/wall-street-bankers-shouldnt-get-h1n1-vaccine-group-says-2009-11-05 | Nov 15 01:50 |
| phIRCe-local | [3] - Prisoner of Starvation: Bankers Skip the Swine Flu Vaccine Line | http://prisonerofstarvation.blogspot.com/2009/11/bankers-skip-swine-flu-vaccine-line.html | Nov 15 01:50 |
| phIRCe-local | [4] - CBC News - Calgary - Bankers Hall office scrubbed down after swine ... | http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/story/2009/04/29/cgy-bankers-hall-swine-flu-alberta.html | Nov 15 01:50 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : we don't fear swine flu that much | Nov 15 01:50 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : pelgrinage is as usual | Nov 15 01:51 |
| schestowitz | Where? Africa? | Nov 15 01:51 |
| schestowitz | Well, you don't have pigs there | Nov 15 01:51 |
| schestowitz | The pigs are in FraudStreet :-D | Nov 15 01:51 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : we do have swine flu | Nov 15 01:51 |
| schestowitz | It's just a name really | Nov 15 01:51 |
| schestowitz | Swiine.. flu | Nov 15 01:51 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : more than 10 people died from it in here | Nov 15 01:51 |
| schestowitz | Could be called "bob" | Nov 15 01:51 |
| _Hicham_ | a school was shut due to ten cases of swine flu | Nov 15 01:52 |
| schestowitz | Flu = influenza = Italian word associated with the belied that this is caused by movement of the stars... or INFLUENCE of stars (astrology) | Nov 15 01:52 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: how many people there died from normal flu? | Nov 15 01:53 |
| schestowitz | Or heart attacj? | Nov 15 01:53 |
| schestowitz | Or traffic accident? | Nov 15 01:53 |
| schestowitz | Or cancer? | Nov 15 01:53 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : a lot in traffic accidents | Nov 15 01:53 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : not a lot of cancer deaths | Nov 15 01:53 |
| _Hicham_ | traffic accidents kills more than anything else | Nov 15 01:54 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : u removed ur picture with the blue shirt ? | Nov 15 01:54 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Analogy Involving #Ford http://bit.ly/1aDb9n | Nov 15 01:54 | |
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| schestowitz | _Hicham_: where/ | Nov 15 01:55 |
| schestowitz | Which picture? | Nov 15 01:55 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : the picture that was on BN at the top right | Nov 15 01:56 |
| _Hicham_ | in where u were wearing a blue shirt and crossing ur arms | Nov 15 01:56 |
| schestowitz | Oh, that one | Nov 15 01:56 |
| schestowitz | It's from my trip to Canada | Nov 15 01:56 |
| schestowitz | Top right? | Nov 15 01:56 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : yes | Nov 15 01:57 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : u look older in that picture | Nov 15 01:57 |
| schestowitz | It's still there | Nov 15 01:57 |
| schestowitz | Maybe refresh, overrise cache | Nov 15 01:57 |
| schestowitz | *ride | Nov 15 01:57 |
| schestowitz | I was meeting my g/f back then, she's married now | Nov 15 01:57 |
| _Hicham_ | the one ur using makes u look younger | Nov 15 01:58 |
| _Hicham_ | http://boycottnovell.com/images/Schestowitz.png | Nov 15 01:58 |
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| _Hicham_ | that is the only one i can see | Nov 15 01:58 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNOME Asia Summit Comes to #Asia http://bit.ly/4vJRjS | Nov 15 01:58 | |
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| _Hicham_ | u look like an actor | Nov 15 01:59 |
| _Hicham_ | maybe u should go to hollywood and shoot some movies | Nov 15 01:59 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nicaragua Builds the Nation with #FreeSoftware http://ur1.ca/fsq5 | Nov 15 01:59 | |
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| _Hicham_ | and u look fat in the other picture too | Nov 15 02:00 |
| _Hicham_ | u weren't going to the gym back then | Nov 15 02:01 |
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| yuhong | http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2009/11/intel-and-amd-bury-the-hatchet-under-125-billion-in-cash.ars | Nov 15 02:01 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla Starts Extensions Rally http://ur1.ca/fsqa http://ur1.ca/fsqb http://ur1.ca/fsqc | Nov 15 02:01 | |
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| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : diving again ? | Nov 15 02:02 |
| yuhong | AMD and Intel has a long history of lawsuits, starting when Intel tried to end second-sourcing with the 386 processor. | Nov 15 02:02 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: I'm not fat | Nov 15 02:02 |
| schestowitz | I started working out at 14 to lose some weight | Nov 15 02:02 |
| schestowitz | That's half my life | Nov 15 02:02 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] MySQL/Sun and Where It's All Going http://ur1.ca/fsqd http://ur1.ca/fsqe http://ur1.ca/fsqf | Nov 15 02:02 | |
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| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : now ur in shape, I know | Nov 15 02:03 |
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| schestowitz | yuhong: they fight yesterday's battle | Nov 15 02:03 |
| schestowitz | There's an 8-core CPU from ARMers already | Nov 15 02:03 |
| yuhong | I know. | Nov 15 02:03 |
| _Hicham_ | 8-core, wow | Nov 15 02:03 |
| _Hicham_ | should buy that | Nov 15 02:03 |
| schestowitz | One Core Per Child | Nov 15 02:03 |
| yuhong | But anyway do you know the history of that battle? | Nov 15 02:04 |
| schestowitz | OLPC moves to ARM now | Nov 15 02:04 |
| yuhong | It is not just limited to anti-trust. | Nov 15 02:04 |
| yuhong | http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/AMD_-_Intel_Litigation_History.pdf | Nov 15 02:04 |
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| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : do u support abortionists ? | Nov 15 02:06 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Nov 15 02:08 |
| schestowitz | They help in cases where a baby would be raised badly | Nov 15 02:08 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : wow, I am shocked | Nov 15 02:08 |
| schestowitz | Better to prevent impregnation in the first place though | Nov 15 02:08 |
| _Hicham_ | yes, I agree with that | Nov 15 02:09 |
| _Hicham_ | prevention is better | Nov 15 02:09 |
| schestowitz | Would you like to see 13 y-o giving birth coz their dad raped them? | Nov 15 02:09 |
| _Hicham_ | but abortion is most of the time a crime | Nov 15 02:09 |
| _Hicham_ | they have the right to live | Nov 15 02:10 |
| _Hicham_ | killing them isn't a solution | Nov 15 02:10 |
| _Hicham_ | if u kill a living foetus, u can kill whoever u want | Nov 15 02:10 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: every time you eat an egg you support an abortion of a rooster or chicken | Nov 15 02:10 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FogComputing Versus or With #FreeSoftware http://ur1.ca/fsqp http://ur1.ca/fsqq | Nov 15 02:10 | |
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| schestowitz | Join nature | Nov 15 02:11 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : so u campare humans to chicken ? | Nov 15 02:11 |
| schestowitz | We kill plants too, or starve to death | Nov 15 02:11 |
| schestowitz | THe boundaries we set before us now exclude vandalism | Nov 15 02:11 |
| schestowitz | Many cultures before us also ate people | Nov 15 02:11 |
| schestowitz | It was a norm | Nov 15 02:11 |
| schestowitz | In Nigeria I hear that people ear the afterbirth, still | Nov 15 02:11 |
| ThistleWeb | hey, nothing like a tasty bollock every now and again ;) | Nov 15 02:12 |
| _goblin | not a normal saturday night conversation on BN! | Nov 15 02:12 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: humans are not chicken | Nov 15 02:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, thats the scientologists, schestowitz | Nov 15 02:12 |
| schestowitz | We are human | Nov 15 02:12 |
| schestowitz | We are a different species | Nov 15 02:12 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : ah, now u correct | Nov 15 02:12 |
| schestowitz | Not better, just different | Nov 15 02:12 |
| schestowitz | More complex DNA too, AFAIK. Longer sequence | Nov 15 02:12 |
| yuhong | It actually began when AMD cloned the Intel 80287. | Nov 15 02:13 |
| yuhong | Illegally using Intel's microcode. | Nov 15 02:13 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : we are at the top of the food chain | Nov 15 02:13 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : but not all the times | Nov 15 02:13 |
| schestowitz | Not always, no.. | Nov 15 02:14 |
| schestowitz | And if Scientologists and their affiliates are to be believed, we lived alongside dinosaurs !!!!11 | Nov 15 02:14 |
| schestowitz | Here's a plot for the next movie | Nov 15 02:14 |
| schestowitz | Man versus dinosaur, but... | Nov 15 02:15 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : we didn't live with dinosaurs | Nov 15 02:15 |
| schestowitz | Oh wait, that was done already | Nov 15 02:15 |
| schestowitz | King Kong series, with the lizard rivals to big gorilla man | Nov 15 02:15 |
| yuhong | After that there was an older antitrust lawsuit. | Nov 15 02:15 |
| schestowitz | Why do we demonise gorillas so much? | Nov 15 02:15 |
| schestowitz | They are our smart cousins | Nov 15 02:15 |
| yuhong | Then when AMD released the Am386 processor, there was another microcode lawsuit. | Nov 15 02:16 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : because they kill humans | Nov 15 02:16 |
| schestowitz | We share some ancestors who would be sad to see their descendants fighting one another in Africa like that, with the homo sapients demonising the gorillas because they are black | Nov 15 02:16 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: not so much | Nov 15 02:17 |
| schestowitz | Unless you get them very angry | Nov 15 02:17 |
| schestowitz | They are fruit eaters too | Nov 15 02:17 |
| yuhong | Then there was a Business Interference lawsuit. | Nov 15 02:17 |
| schestowitz | Cats ear flesh | Nov 15 02:17 |
| yuhong | Then a Am486 microcode lawsuit. | Nov 15 02:17 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Arrived safely on Dallas. Yay #fb | Nov 15 02:17 | |
| schestowitz | We should make films with skyscrapers climbed upon by giant snow leopard s | Nov 15 02:18 |
| yuhong | These was all settled in January 1995. | Nov 15 02:18 |
| schestowitz | Spitting fire on behalf of their ruthless master, Mr. J0bs | Nov 15 02:18 |
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| yuhong | Funny! | Nov 15 02:20 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : r u saying that we shouldn't eat animals and plants ? | Nov 15 02:20 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Python 3 Made More Concrete, New #Perl Site is Up http://ur1.ca/fsr1 http://ur1.ca/fsr2 | Nov 15 02:20 | |
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| yuhong | Much later, AMD wanted to spin it's foundries off. | Nov 15 02:21 |
| yuhong | But that settlement did not allow that. | Nov 15 02:22 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: we can't | Nov 15 02:22 |
| schestowitz | "It's our nature," as the saying goes | Nov 15 02:22 |
| schestowitz | We could digest dead animals in the form of fuel maybe | Nov 15 02:22 |
| yuhong | Which led to another lawsuit. | Nov 15 02:22 |
| schestowitz | Or wait for animals to die naturally, then digest them | Nov 15 02:22 |
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| _Hicham_ | but we should kill foetuses? | Nov 15 02:22 |
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| schestowitz | As in, let the chicken run wild until they age | Nov 15 02:23 |
| schestowitz | But it won't work for the whole food chain | Nov 15 02:23 |
| yuhong | And that is what the recent settlement was about, settling that AND anti-trust. | Nov 15 02:23 |
| schestowitz | Our chickens will still eat live flora | Nov 15 02:23 |
| yuhong | Get it now? | Nov 15 02:23 |
| _Hicham_ | would u eat a dead chicken ? | Nov 15 02:23 |
| schestowitz | yuhong: it's a disgrace | Nov 15 02:24 |
| schestowitz | Intel should be embargoed | Nov 15 02:24 |
| schestowitz | And brough to justice | Nov 15 02:24 |
| schestowitz | This isn't ebtween AMD and Intel | Nov 15 02:24 |
| schestowitz | Like in state lawsuits, it should be "People" versus Intel | Nov 15 02:24 |
| schestowitz | Or Microsoft | Nov 15 02:24 |
| schestowitz | Intel's corruption raised the price for many customers | Nov 15 02:24 |
| schestowitz | It also proved that Intel has no right to exist. It's a rogue company | Nov 15 02:24 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: we all east dead chickens | Nov 15 02:25 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : huh? | Nov 15 02:25 |
| yuhong | And well, there is actually an older anti-trust lawsuit too that was settled too, read the PDF. | Nov 15 02:25 |
| schestowitz | Even if we didn't, at some stage when we eat it,it would die | Nov 15 02:25 |
| _Hicham_ | I don't eat dead chicken | Nov 15 02:25 |
| schestowitz | It would be more painful to the chicken if you ate it alive | Nov 15 02:25 |
| _Hicham_ | not the same thing | Nov 15 02:25 |
| _Hicham_ | no, ur not getting the point | Nov 15 02:25 |
| yuhong | http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/AMD_-_Intel_Litigation_History.pdf | Nov 15 02:25 |
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| schestowitz | _Hicham_: all the chicken in supermarket is dead | Nov 15 02:26 |
| yuhong | Read the PDF. | Nov 15 02:26 |
| schestowitz | Fish is maybe the only thing that is sometimes still live | Nov 15 02:26 |
| _Hicham_ | beheading the chicken isn't like when they die from age | Nov 15 02:26 |
| schestowitz | THat is, if you keep an aquarium as a "food freezer" | Nov 15 02:26 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : fish doesn't contain a lot of blood | Nov 15 02:26 |
| schestowitz | But that too became rare | Nov 15 02:26 |
| ThistleWeb | nah they die from an overdose of human contact | Nov 15 02:26 |
| schestowitz | Old-style markets of fresh fish are not replaced by well-packed preservatives-filled "chunks" and tin cans | Nov 15 02:27 |
| yuhong | Anyway, do you get the history now? | Nov 15 02:27 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: but they have a nervous system | Nov 15 02:27 |
| schestowitz | So they feel pain | Nov 15 02:27 |
| ThistleWeb | some cultures have a live market as the norm | Nov 15 02:27 |
| schestowitz | Distress | Nov 15 02:27 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : frozen food can be unhealthy | Nov 15 02:27 |
| schestowitz | I know | Nov 15 02:27 |
| _Hicham_ | I like live markets more | Nov 15 02:27 |
| schestowitz | It changed the composition of it | Nov 15 02:27 |
| yuhong | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_v._Intel | Nov 15 02:28 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: AMD v. Intel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 22.97 KB | Nov 15 02:28 |
| schestowitz | But then again, we in the West eat lots of chemicals, in additions to GM (man-made) creatures and man-made chemicals for taste | Nov 15 02:28 |
| yuhong | I know. | Nov 15 02:28 |
| schestowitz | it's like a Barbie-Doll diet | Nov 15 02:28 |
| schestowitz | Keep twig-skinny, do as you're told, buy MacDildos burgers, and die fast | Nov 15 02:29 |
| schestowitz | France is not as fooled by it | Nov 15 02:29 |
| _Hicham_ | I don't like MacFood | Nov 15 02:30 |
| schestowitz | "Fast food" = "making you food for the worms in the ground, FAST" | Nov 15 02:30 |
| _Hicham_ | I like to cook my own food | Nov 15 02:30 |
| yuhong | http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2009/11/12/a-timeline-of-intel-and-amds-legal-battles/ | Nov 15 02:30 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: A Timeline of Intel and AMDs Legal Battles - Digits - WSJ .::. Size~: 72.54 KB | Nov 15 02:30 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: good | Nov 15 02:30 |
| schestowitz | But you don't live in the fast lane then | Nov 15 02:30 |
| schestowitz | No rat race | Nov 15 02:30 |
| schestowitz | No bankster chasing big USDs :-) | Nov 15 02:30 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/nov/13/madoff-accomplices-jerome-ohara-george-perez | Nov 15 02:30 |
| _Hicham_ | I have time to take care of myself | Nov 15 02:31 |
| schestowitz | "Two computer programmers who worked for fraudster Bernard Madoff were arrested today on charges of helping to cover up his $65bn (£39bn) swindle." | Nov 15 02:31 |
| schestowitz | They were just playing life... trying to get rich by stomping on people | Nov 15 02:31 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/13/madoff_two_arrested/ | Nov 15 02:31 |
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| yuhong | Yea, fast food have many problems. | Nov 15 02:31 |
| schestowitz | "The FBI has arrested two programmers in connection with falsifying records at Bernie Madoff's investment firm." | Nov 15 02:31 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: in the West, people think you live in a tent, ride a camel, and east pitas | Nov 15 02:32 |
| schestowitz | *Eat | Nov 15 02:32 |
| schestowitz | That's the image projected by H0llyw00d | Nov 15 02:32 |
| ThistleWeb | schestowitz: define "ride a camel" :P | Nov 15 02:32 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : yes, I agree | Nov 15 02:32 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: I'm not kidding though | Nov 15 02:32 |
| schestowitz | Nor axaggerating | Nov 15 02:32 |
| schestowitz | Go out in the streets, ask people | Nov 15 02:33 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : I don't plan to modify this image | Nov 15 02:33 |
| yuhong | But do you get the history now? | Nov 15 02:33 |
| schestowitz | In a state like, well... mid-east probably | Nov 15 02:33 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : and we are terrorists too | Nov 15 02:33 |
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| schestowitz | Egypt is a well educated nation, yet people just think of ancient pyramids | Nov 15 02:34 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : we are all having bombs with us | Nov 15 02:34 |
| schestowitz | Then there's the Suez tunnel disaster.. when the British lied to enter, invade and take over | Nov 15 02:34 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : that is great, I don't care about how they think of us | Nov 15 02:34 |
| schestowitz | The French helped them, Israel too | Nov 15 02:35 |
| schestowitz | The Russian threatened nuclear strike on Paris and London because of this fiasco | Nov 15 02:35 |
| schestowitz | The BBC has a documentary all about it | Nov 15 02:35 |
| schestowitz | Also, it's similar to the CHavez situation | Nov 15 02:35 |
| schestowitz | Nasser was VERY popular among his people | Nov 15 02:35 |
| schestowitz | Like CHavez with soaring popularity | Nov 15 02:35 |
| schestowitz | Yet British 'intelligence' lied | Nov 15 02:36 |
| _Hicham_ | yes, Nasser was a great leader | Nov 15 02:36 |
| schestowitz | Lucky Strike passed beautified, fabricated, hand-picked info | Nov 15 02:36 |
| _Hicham_ | be careful to not offend British Intelligence | Nov 15 02:36 |
| schestowitz | The CIA revealed the same was done to start Iraq's invasion | Nov 15 02:36 |
| schestowitz | CIA whistle blower say it on tape | Nov 15 02:36 |
| schestowitz | *lowers | Nov 15 02:36 |
| _Hicham_ | mass destructio weapons | Nov 15 02:36 |
| schestowitz | Heh. | Nov 15 02:37 |
| schestowitz | Yes, lots of oil | Nov 15 02:37 |
| schestowitz | Could make a lot of bombs | Nov 15 02:37 |
| schestowitz | Napalm maybe | Nov 15 02:37 |
| schestowitz | So they were right | Nov 15 02:37 |
| schestowitz | Saddam kept WoMD underground | Nov 15 02:37 |
| _Hicham_ | US don't want other nations to have power | Nov 15 02:37 |
| _Hicham_ | Saddam was just an agent | Nov 15 02:37 |
| _Hicham_ | it is not a leader | Nov 15 02:38 |
| _Hicham_ | he was helped by the US a lot | Nov 15 02:38 |
| schestowitz | He didn't drill it fast enough and put it on the Condolizza RIce (it's the name of the ship of Chevron, before they renamed it) | Nov 15 02:38 |
| _Hicham_ | he got what he deserves | Nov 15 02:38 |
| schestowitz | But did the citizen get it? | Nov 15 02:38 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] The paranoid lunatics of the present-day US GOP are an age-old phenomenon http://is.gd/4Vdt5 | Nov 15 02:38 | |
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| _Hicham_ | ah, Condolezza Rice | Nov 15 02:38 |
| schestowitz | *zens | Nov 15 02:39 |
| _Hicham_ | the citizens were fed up with Saddam | Nov 15 02:39 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: she was an oil shill | Nov 15 02:39 |
| schestowitz | Like Cheney | Nov 15 02:39 |
| schestowitz | And Bush's family | Nov 15 02:39 |
| schestowitz | All tied to the interests in which they had stakes | Nov 15 02:39 |
| schestowitz | CHeney still had massive investments in Halliburton even after he had left to become VP | Nov 15 02:39 |
| *_goblin has quit ("Ex-Chat") | Nov 15 02:39 | |
| schestowitz | He got busted | Nov 15 02:39 |
| schestowitz | Then he "donated to charity" | Nov 15 02:40 |
| _Hicham_ | everyone donates to charity as a cheap way of tax fraud | Nov 15 02:40 |
| schestowitz | [02:39] <_Hicham_> the citizens were fed up with Saddam | Nov 15 02:40 |
| schestowitz | So was the US | Nov 15 02:40 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: but it's no reason to kill so many people | Nov 15 02:40 |
| schestowitz | Couldn't the CIA just organise a coup like it usually does? | Nov 15 02:40 |
| schestowitz | Though that would put a worse puppet in place | Nov 15 02:41 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : it was a muscle exhibition | Nov 15 02:41 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: well, not an impressive one | Nov 15 02:41 |
| schestowitz | They almost doubled their national debt | Nov 15 02:41 |
| schestowitz | Now they bleed to death | Nov 15 02:41 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : they were trying to scare other nations around | Nov 15 02:41 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : they will continue to bleed | Nov 15 02:41 |
| schestowitz | They tried anabolic steroids and got a heart attack, like their governor Mister SS | Nov 15 02:42 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : if they ever hit Iran, nobody knows what can happen | Nov 15 02:42 |
| schestowitz | Obama can't hit Iran | Nov 15 02:42 |
| schestowitz | Not enough national support | Nov 15 02:42 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : I saw a documentary on Aljazeera about possible War Scenarios | Nov 15 02:42 |
| schestowitz | They would lead to militias rising more | Nov 15 02:42 |
| schestowitz | They have already risen the risk 7-fold with the invasion into Iraq | Nov 15 02:43 |
| _Hicham_ | who care about national support ? | Nov 15 02:43 |
| schestowitz | They do | Nov 15 02:43 |
| schestowitz | See Vietnam | Nov 15 02:43 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, 68000 dead US soldiers | Nov 15 02:43 |
| schestowitz | 300,000 injured | Nov 15 02:43 |
| schestowitz | Or 500,000 | Nov 15 02:43 |
| _Hicham_ | they didn't learn from Vietnam | Nov 15 02:43 |
| schestowitz | 600,000 troops in total | Nov 15 02:43 |
| schestowitz | That's like 80% coming back home death or mamed | Nov 15 02:43 |
| schestowitz | ANd among VIetnamese, IIRC close to 2 milliob died in that era | Nov 15 02:44 |
| schestowitz | Innocent people mostly, caught in crossfire that devalues life | Nov 15 02:44 |
| schestowitz | When you're a B52 pilot you outnumber the people on the ground | Nov 15 02:44 |
| _Hicham_ | that is what the US does | Nov 15 02:44 |
| _Hicham_ | they kill women and children | Nov 15 02:45 |
| schestowitz | [02:43] <_Hicham_> they didn't learn from Vietnam | Nov 15 02:45 |
| schestowitz | New generation | Nov 15 02:45 |
| schestowitz | Memory decay | Nov 15 02:45 |
| _Hicham_ | the US doesn't care about international laws | Nov 15 02:45 |
| _Hicham_ | look to what they have done in Abu Ghraib | Nov 15 02:46 |
| _Hicham_ | they were molesting people for no reason | Nov 15 02:46 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Nov 15 02:46 |
| schestowitz | They leaked the photos | Nov 15 02:46 |
| schestowitz | Those damn troops | Nov 15 02:46 |
| _Hicham_ | shitting and pissing on them | Nov 15 02:46 |
| schestowitz | Some people get education for asteem | Nov 15 02:47 |
| schestowitz | Some people sh*t on people to take a shortcut :-) | Nov 15 02:47 |
| _Hicham_ | Muntadar Zaidi was the only real man among those journalists | Nov 15 02:47 |
| schestowitz | *esteem | Nov 15 02:47 |
| _Hicham_ | if i can put my hands on those bastards, I will kill them with a great pleasure | Nov 15 02:48 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #BSkyB and #Virgin Fight Open Standards to Keep Monopoly http://ur1.ca/fss6 | Nov 15 02:48 | |
| _Hicham_ | u know, in Islam, terrorism is more dangerous than a single kill | Nov 15 02:48 |
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| _Hicham_ | Sharia doesn't stand terrorists | Nov 15 02:49 |
| _Hicham_ | terrorists do have a special treatment | Nov 15 02:49 |
| yuhong | One last thing, I forget to mention this: | Nov 15 02:49 |
| yuhong | http://techreport.com/discussions.x/17912 | Nov 15 02:49 |
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| _Hicham_ | and the US troops are terrorists | Nov 15 02:49 |
| yuhong | Sad that NVIDIA's 3D graphic drivers are not free software. | Nov 15 02:50 |
| _Hicham_ | but I am amazed to see people in the west aware of the real cause | Nov 15 02:51 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : r u asleep ? | Nov 15 02:53 |
| schestowitz | No. | Nov 15 02:54 |
| *schestowitz catches up | Nov 15 02:54 | |
| schestowitz | I left my fridge door open by accident | Nov 15 02:54 |
| _Hicham_ | so u were frozen | Nov 15 02:54 |
| _Hicham_ | u have a "frozen" ass now | Nov 15 02:55 |
| schestowitz | No | Nov 15 02:55 |
| schestowitz | It's too hot here | Nov 15 02:55 |
| _Hicham_ | and u can be a frozen food too | Nov 15 02:55 |
| schestowitz | I was making tea | Nov 15 02:55 |
| _Hicham_ | really ? | Nov 15 02:55 |
| schestowitz | Left the door open after getting milk | Nov 15 02:55 |
| schestowitz | But it doesn't matter | Nov 15 02:55 |
| _Hicham_ | I hear too much about british tea | Nov 15 02:55 |
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| _Hicham_ | do u make a good tea , | Nov 15 02:56 |
| schestowitz | There's not much to make | Nov 15 02:56 |
| schestowitz | Put sugar, water, stir | Nov 15 02:56 |
| schestowitz | It's like asking if you make good soup that's just soluble in water (powder) | Nov 15 02:56 |
| ender2070 | nooooo | Nov 15 02:57 |
| ender2070 | the way you add the sugar and stir the final product | Nov 15 02:57 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : no, the way u put this can make a big difference | Nov 15 02:58 |
| ender2070 | +1 | Nov 15 02:58 |
| ender2070 | I make a damn good cup of coffee using standard ingredients (instant too) | Nov 15 02:59 |
| ender2070 | I just add the right amounts of stuff | Nov 15 02:59 |
| ender2070 | Can't get it to taste the same if I go out for it | Nov 15 02:59 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Murdoch 's Empire of Lies Goes on a #Censorship Tour http://bit.ly/4c5lDy | Nov 15 02:59 | |
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| ender2070 | stores brew theirs too, should be better by definition | Nov 15 03:00 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Murdoch Accuses #Google of Infringing on His #IntellectualMonopolies http://techdirt.com/articles/20091113/1357386926.shtml | Nov 15 03:00 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Copyright Police Does Mad Things Again, Tactic Backfires http://ur1.ca/fsst http://ur1.ca/fssv http://ur1.ca/fssw | Nov 15 03:03 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Patents Versus -- Not for -- Innovation http://techdirt.com/articles/20091106/0339216830.shtml | Nov 15 03:03 | |
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| yuhong | Yep, NVIDIA made cartoons critising intel. | Nov 15 03:05 |
| schestowitz | Well, the coffee farming is done by kids that are poorly paid | Nov 15 03:05 |
| schestowitz | People love cheap coffee | Nov 15 03:05 |
| schestowitz | Never mind how much labour is needed to grow and collect beans | Nov 15 03:05 |
| _Hicham_ | I love to make my own coffee | Nov 15 03:06 |
| schestowitz | Maybe people would appreciate their tea more by growing it in their garden's | Nov 15 03:06 |
| schestowitz | *garden | Nov 15 03:06 |
| yuhong | I forgot to mention this. | Nov 15 03:06 |
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| schestowitz | _Hicham_: will you make coffee for your wife? | Nov 15 03:06 |
| ender2070 | yuhong - what cartoons? | Nov 15 03:07 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : why not ? | Nov 15 03:08 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : strange question | Nov 15 03:09 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How #Gartner Group Works on Recommendations: The "Analyst Tax" (Gentle Bribe) http://ur1.ca/fst6 | Nov 15 03:10 | |
| ender2070 | schestowitz - you grow your own tea? | Nov 15 03:11 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz gows his own beard | Nov 15 03:11 |
| ender2070 | <-- | Nov 15 03:11 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Analysts be Damned, #ARM is Ready for Takeover (with GNU/Linux) http://ur1.ca/fst8 | Nov 15 03:11 | |
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| ender2070 | lol i'd show you my mighty goat, but i dont want captain stalker to know what I look like | Nov 15 03:12 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google Ready to Extinguish Microsoft's Cash Cows http://ur1.ca/fsta http://ur1.ca/fstb | Nov 15 03:12 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft 's "Embrace" of the #GPL Explained http://bit.ly/32D7ep | Nov 15 03:13 | |
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| _Hicham_ | ender2070 : where is ur friend voltroll ? | Nov 15 03:14 |
| ender2070 | ?? | Nov 15 03:14 |
| ender2070 | voltroll? | Nov 15 03:14 |
| ender2070 | who | Nov 15 03:14 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Vista7 Cracked http://ur1.ca/fstd | Nov 15 03:14 | |
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| schestowitz | _Hicham_: | Nov 15 03:15 |
| schestowitz | Five Linux alternatives to Windows 7 | Nov 15 03:15 |
| schestowitz | ,----[ Quote ] | Nov 15 03:15 |
| schestowitz | | Fedora | Nov 15 03:15 |
| schestowitz | | | Nov 15 03:15 |
| schestowitz | | Fedora is Red Hat's community Linux | Nov 15 03:15 |
| schestowitz | | distribution and it's a winner. That said, | Nov 15 03:15 |
| ender2070 | voltron? | Nov 15 03:15 |
| schestowitz | | it's a cutting edge distribution. You'll | Nov 15 03:15 |
| _Hicham_ | ender2070 : the one who was promoting C# in here | Nov 15 03:15 |
| schestowitz | | find new features in the forthcoming Fedora | Nov 15 03:15 |
| schestowitz | | 12, like kernel memory management via KSM | Nov 15 03:15 |
| schestowitz | | KSM (kernel samepage merging) that are may | Nov 15 03:15 |
| schestowitz | | be a little too bleeding edge for some | Nov 15 03:15 |
| schestowitz | | users. I like Fedora, but its target | Nov 15 03:15 |
| schestowitz | | audience is Linux experts, not Linux | Nov 15 03:15 |
| schestowitz | | newcomers. | Nov 15 03:15 |
| schestowitz | `---- | Nov 15 03:15 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.computerworld.com/14965/five_linux_alternatives_to_windows_7 | Nov 15 03:15 |
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| schestowitz | Oops. | Nov 15 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [03:08] <_Hicham_> schestowitz : why not ? | Nov 15 03:15 |
| _Hicham_ | ender2070 : and claimed to be a developer on that mono project in launchpad | Nov 15 03:15 |
| _Hicham_ | yes | Nov 15 03:15 |
| schestowitz | Cause there's this myth about who's waring the pants in the family | Nov 15 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [03:11] <_Hicham_> schestowitz gows his own beard | Nov 15 03:15 |
| schestowitz | It's not a voluntaru function | Nov 15 03:15 |
| schestowitz | Like heart's beats | Nov 15 03:16 |
| ender2070 | im not his friend | Nov 15 03:16 |
| ender2070 | if you dont remember i called him a troll too | Nov 15 03:16 |
| schestowitz | He pulls your leg, ender2070 | Nov 15 03:16 |
| schestowitz | It's _Hicham_, the standup comedian | Nov 15 03:16 |
| _Hicham_ | ender2070 : sorry then | Nov 15 03:16 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : who is wearing the pants ? | Nov 15 03:17 |
| _Hicham_ | I don't think like that | Nov 15 03:17 |
| _Hicham_ | and never did | Nov 15 03:17 |
| _Hicham_ | to be a real man, u must prove it by ur hard work | Nov 15 03:18 |
| _Hicham_ | not just silly behavior | Nov 15 03:18 |
| _Hicham_ | ender2070 : I think he takes his nick from a cartoon | Nov 15 03:18 |
| ender2070 | ? | Nov 15 03:18 |
| ender2070 | anyone being bothered by Hominumest? | Nov 15 03:19 |
| _Hicham_ | ender2070 : who is that ? | Nov 15 03:19 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Silly hotel wifi portal refuses to work on android browser. Changed MAC addy of laptop to that of phone. Used firefox. Win. | Nov 15 03:19 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Now, to the bar! #fb | Nov 15 03:19 | |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : wouldn't u make coffee to ur wife ? | Nov 15 03:20 |
| _Hicham_ | why that popey never talks to us ? | Nov 15 03:21 |
| _Hicham_ | some people in here are arrogants | Nov 15 03:21 |
| _Hicham_ | openSUSE 11.2 : Linux for open minds | Nov 15 03:22 |
| popey | _Hicham_: sometimes I do | Nov 15 03:22 |
| popey | _Hicham_: does that make me arrogant? | Nov 15 03:22 |
| _Hicham_ | popey : since ur talking to us now, no | Nov 15 03:23 |
| popey | but because I didnt speak to you in your memory, I was, up until I just spoke, how nice | Nov 15 03:23 |
| _Hicham_ | popey : some people keep just posting URLs in here | Nov 15 03:23 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: I would | Nov 15 03:24 |
| _Hicham_ | popey : we come here to talk and exchange ideas, not just to post URLs | Nov 15 03:24 |
| ender2070 | im not sure he sounded like a linsux guy | Nov 15 03:24 |
| _Hicham_ | popey : no offending | Nov 15 03:24 |
| schestowitz | You once said something like, "girlfriend|wife... to cook for you" | Nov 15 03:24 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : me ? | Nov 15 03:25 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : I cook for myself | Nov 15 03:25 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : I never rely on anyone | Nov 15 03:25 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: what are you talking about there? popey is on the feed and he hangs around here | Nov 15 03:25 |
| schestowitz | popey: nice to see you in Linux Outlaws' title | Nov 15 03:25 |
| popey | heh | Nov 15 03:25 |
| popey | i see they're abusing #blamepopey :) | Nov 15 03:26 |
| popey | its all a bit of fun | Nov 15 03:26 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: you're life a fericious lone wolf :-) | Nov 15 03:26 |
| schestowitz | /life/like/ | Nov 15 03:26 |
| _Hicham_ | popey : hope ur not offended | Nov 15 03:27 |
| sebsebseb | _Hicham_: I guess like me your not that keen on people who sit in a channel and never see them type or never normalley see them type, of course for really big channels that's a good thing really | Nov 15 03:27 |
| _Hicham_ | popey : are u an ubuntu community manager ? | Nov 15 03:27 |
| popey | jono is the ubuntu community manager | Nov 15 03:27 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Linux out laws? | Nov 15 03:27 |
| popey | I am a member of that community | Nov 15 03:27 |
| popey | I'm on the EMEA Membership Board, the LoCo Council and the Community Council. | Nov 15 03:27 |
| _Hicham_ | popey : I know | Nov 15 03:27 |
| *popey is at UDS right now, and should be in the bar, not on irc.. so ttfn.. | Nov 15 03:28 | |
| _Hicham_ | popey : nice to meet u | Nov 15 03:28 |
| sebsebseb | _Hicham_: so many urls given out in here, that would have to spend loads of time going through all/most of them | Nov 15 03:28 |
| sebsebseb | popey: ttfn?? | Nov 15 03:28 |
| sebsebseb | popey: where is Ubuntu Developer Summit taking place? | Nov 15 03:29 |
| popey | ta-ta for now | Nov 15 03:29 |
| popey | sebsebseb: dallas | Nov 15 03:29 |
| sebsebseb | ah ha | Nov 15 03:29 |
| sebsebseb | USA | Nov 15 03:29 |
| popey | ya | Nov 15 03:29 |
| sebsebseb | that explains why your on at this time | Nov 15 03:29 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz is openSUSE community manager | Nov 15 03:29 |
| popey | just got here | Nov 15 03:29 |
| popey | er | Nov 15 03:29 |
| popey | no he isnt _Hicham_ | Nov 15 03:29 |
| sebsebseb | popey: yeah as you know, in UK it's early morning | Nov 15 03:29 |
| popey | Zonker is | Nov 15 03:29 |
| ThistleWeb | popey: wear a crash helmet when you pass a grassy knoll or book repositoty | Nov 15 03:29 |
| popey | haha | Nov 15 03:29 |
| sebsebseb | popey: oh you got to the UDS even though your not a developer? | Nov 15 03:30 |
| popey | yes | Nov 15 03:30 |
| popey | this is my 5th UDS | Nov 15 03:30 |
| sebsebseb | why? so you know what's going to happen with Ubuntu? | Nov 15 03:30 |
| popey | its not just about developing code | Nov 15 03:31 |
| popey | there's the community to think about :) | Nov 15 03:31 |
| _Hicham_ | popey : Canonical doesn't take the community into account sometimes | Nov 15 03:31 |
| sebsebseb | popey: meaning in that context? | Nov 15 03:31 |
| popey | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-l/ | Nov 15 03:31 |
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| popey | _Hicham_: example? | Nov 15 03:32 |
| ThistleWeb | Apple also have a community to think about.......and then ignore | Nov 15 03:32 |
| popey | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-l/track/community/ <- community track | Nov 15 03:32 |
| popey | anyway, nice chatting, but there is beer to be drunk... | Nov 15 03:32 |
| sebsebseb | popey: ok have fun I guess | Nov 15 03:32 |
| _Hicham_ | popey : the most obvious example is notify-osd | Nov 15 03:33 |
| popey | _Hicham_: the community were wrong in some respects :) | Nov 15 03:33 |
| sebsebseb | _Hicham_: hmm? yes it's not part of upstream Gnome | Nov 15 03:33 |
| popey | see how notify-osd is in jaunty _and_ still in karmic | Nov 15 03:33 |
| sebsebseb | and edited fusa :( | Nov 15 03:33 |
| popey | yeah :( | Nov 15 03:33 |
| sebsebseb | with no log out and shut down in the system menu | Nov 15 03:33 |
| sebsebseb | altough it looks better in 9.10 | Nov 15 03:33 |
| *popey hugs 9.10 | Nov 15 03:34 | |
| sebsebseb | remove it for system menu stuff, I know | Nov 15 03:34 |
| popey | beer | Nov 15 03:34 |
| sebsebseb | popey: I did my clean install earlier, I am not that impressed with it, as I expected I woudn't be | Nov 15 03:34 |
| sebsebseb | after testing | Nov 15 03:34 |
| _Hicham_ | popey : is it the community who proposed that ? | Nov 15 03:34 |
| sebsebseb | _Hicham_: There was a session for the 9.04 Ubuntu Open Week | Nov 15 03:35 |
| sebsebseb | _Hicham_: regarding that kind of stuff | Nov 15 03:35 |
| sebsebseb | there's a log | Nov 15 03:35 |
| _Hicham_ | popey : Ubuntu Software Center would have better coded completely using PackageKit | Nov 15 03:36 |
| schestowitz | Guys, popey needs a brew | Nov 15 03:36 |
| sebsebseb | _Hicham_: as for Canonical/Ubuntu not following upstream properly, well yes | Nov 15 03:36 |
| _Hicham_ | sebsebseb : they have broken some stuff | Nov 15 03:36 |
| schestowitz | [body language] | Nov 15 03:36 |
| sebsebseb | _Hicham_: I guess sometimes they think they are better than upstream hence the edited fusa. Also notify-osd isn't only Ubuntu | Nov 15 03:37 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz needs a drink with Miguel | Nov 15 03:37 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znQ1Amd0cRE&feature=related | Nov 15 03:37 |
| _Hicham_ | "come on Miguel, let's have a drink" | Nov 15 03:37 |
| _Hicham_ | sebsebseb : who uses notify-osd ? | Nov 15 03:38 |
| sebsebseb | _Hicham_: and some times upstream mess things up for users, for example GDM 2 and how it can't be themed at the moment like the old one | Nov 15 03:38 |
| sebsebseb | and we had that discussion earlier | Nov 15 03:38 |
| sebsebseb | there's this other guy who doesn't like notify-osd and wrote a blog post about it | Nov 15 03:38 |
| _Hicham_ | http://www.flickr.com/photos/32064745@N02/3593061683/ | Nov 15 03:38 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 404 Not Found .::. Size~: 0 KB | Nov 15 03:38 |
| _Hicham_ | who uses notify-osd other than ubuntu ? | Nov 15 03:39 |
| sebsebseb | yes those yellow notificaionts for updates in Ubuntu were fine really, but those black ones aren't that bad, plus when music is playing in Banshee (which uhmm uses Mono yes) it would say on the black notification which track is being played | Nov 15 03:39 |
| sebsebseb | _Hicham_: Foresight Linux has/had it | Nov 15 03:39 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: Condoleezza Rice Responds to Torture Allegations < http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFSOVOhubBs > | Nov 15 03:40 |
| _Hicham_ | there are black notifications in Fedora 12 | Nov 15 03:40 |
| _Hicham_ | but without notify-osd | Nov 15 03:40 |
| _Hicham_ | and they are sexier | Nov 15 03:40 |
| schestowitz | Then watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijEED_iviTA&feature=fvsr (Condoleezza Rice meets with some students) | Nov 15 03:41 |
| schestowitz | Condoleezza the Ricer! :-) | Nov 15 03:41 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : better see this one : http://www.flickr.com/photos/32064745@N02/3593061683/ | Nov 15 03:41 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 404 Not Found .::. Size~: 0 KB | Nov 15 03:41 |
| _Hicham_ | it is recommended, from me | Nov 15 03:41 |
| *schestowitz thinks _Hicham_ has a crush on the one who assaults him | Nov 15 03:41 | |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: I _THINK_ the panties are GIMPed in | Nov 15 03:42 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : of course | Nov 15 03:43 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : would u think that she dropped here panties in front of the camera ? | Nov 15 03:43 |
| ender2070 | apple thinks about its community all the time, everytime it figures it needs money | Nov 15 03:46 |
| ender2070 | GDM 2 sucks | Nov 15 03:47 |
| ender2070 | GDM 2 is also missing the ability to change DE at the login screen | Nov 15 03:48 |
| _Hicham_ | GDM 2 ? | Nov 15 03:48 |
| _Hicham_ | ender2070 : gdm was rewritten since gnome-2.22 | Nov 15 03:49 |
| _Hicham_ | Ie, Fedora 9 | Nov 15 03:49 |
| ender2070 | are u sure? | Nov 15 03:49 |
| ender2070 | whats that new login screen that has those options gone | Nov 15 03:49 |
| _Hicham_ | ender2070 : it is the gdm>2.22 | Nov 15 03:50 |
| ender2070 | im confused but oh well | Nov 15 03:51 |
| ender2070 | i just noticed mythbuntu 9.10 wouldnt let me log into gnome anymore | Nov 15 03:52 |
| ender2070 | from the login screen | Nov 15 03:52 |
| sebsebseb | ender2070: 9.10 has GDM 2 | Nov 15 03:52 |
| schestowitz | What ever happened with those mockups from 2007 of a 3-D GDM? | Nov 15 03:52 |
| schestowitz | With faces and stuff revolving, and OpenGL acceleraion...? | Nov 15 03:52 |
| schestowitz | I still have links to that | Nov 15 03:52 |
| ender2070 | remember sun's 3d desktop? | Nov 15 03:53 |
| ender2070 | project looking glass | Nov 15 03:53 |
| schestowitz | GNOME Foundation Head seems to be pissed off with me today | Nov 15 03:53 |
| schestowitz | He's a Novell employee | Nov 15 03:53 |
| ender2070 | oh i wonder why | Nov 15 03:53 |
| sebsebseb | ender2070: It seems that the developers thought that doing a re write with clean code was more important, than end users being able to theme it liked the old one | Nov 15 03:53 |
| schestowitz | :- | Nov 15 03:53 |
| schestowitz | Can't sleep yet, will make some scoff... | Nov 15 03:53 |
| sebsebseb | ender2070: apparantly according to _Hicham_ the theme features will come later on | Nov 15 03:53 |
| ender2070 | sebsebseb - ye yes, gnome does that all the time. they rewrite stuff and then dont rewrite the options | Nov 15 03:54 |
| _Hicham_ | sebsebseb : I talked to Ray Strode, who is a gdm contributor, about it | Nov 15 03:54 |
| sebsebseb | ender2070: don't rewrite the options? you mean being able to theme again? | Nov 15 03:55 |
| sebsebseb | I replaced GDM 2 with KDM in 9.10 | Nov 15 03:55 |
| ender2070 | sebsebseb - I was being general, they did the same with mouse config and screensaver config | Nov 15 03:55 |
| sebsebseb | ,but Xsplash goes with GDM 2 better than KDM | Nov 15 03:55 |
| sebsebseb | hence there being that Ubuntu screen for Xplash when GDM 2 is done | Nov 15 03:55 |
| ender2070 | they wouldnt take linus's patch to let him configure his mouse buttons | Nov 15 03:55 |
| ender2070 | citing usability | Nov 15 03:55 |
| sebsebseb | where as with KDM only get the Xplash logo in the centre | Nov 15 03:56 |
| ender2070 | they'll do the same with the theme selector, think up some bogus way to blame idiot users for not coding configuration | Nov 15 03:56 |
| sebsebseb | well I don't like Xplash much at the moment, but that will improve in the next release I expect | Nov 15 03:56 |
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| ender2070 | fedora did a wicked job with KDM in F12 | Nov 15 03:56 |
| ender2070 | it looks awesome | Nov 15 03:56 |
| sebsebseb | the Kubuntu KDE 4 9.10 screen looks good | Nov 15 03:57 |
| ender2070 | the F12 one looks way better, i've tried kubuntu too | Nov 15 03:57 |
| sebsebseb | I didn't like the KDE 3 KDM that much | Nov 15 03:57 |
| ender2070 | fedora12/kde4.3 | Nov 15 03:57 |
| sebsebseb | Fedora 11 I coudn't just install it on here since it woudn't like my partition set up | Nov 15 03:57 |
| sebsebseb | when I did custom install | Nov 15 03:57 |
| sebsebseb | so I wonder if Fedora 12 will actsauly install | Nov 15 03:57 |
| ender2070 | give it a shot | Nov 15 03:57 |
| ender2070 | i swear by it | Nov 15 03:58 |
| sebsebseb | without me having to re do my whole partition table or something | Nov 15 03:58 |
| ender2070 | i've used every distro | Nov 15 03:58 |
| ender2070 | if you like kde, you'll love it | Nov 15 03:58 |
| sebsebseb | nah, loads you haven't used as well of cousre | Nov 15 03:58 |
| sebsebseb | KDE 3 Kubuntu :) | Nov 15 03:58 |
| sebsebseb | ,but I would use Gnome | Nov 15 03:58 |
| sebsebseb | KDE 4 has been uh | Nov 15 03:58 |
| sebsebseb | exepct for some apps in Gnome | Nov 15 03:58 |
| ender2070 | Kubuntu 9.04-9.10, mandrive 2010, opensuse 11.2, arch 2009.08, chakra crush 3, sabayon 5, gentoo | Nov 15 03:59 |
| sebsebseb | I gave Dolphin another try earlier :) I remember the KDE 3 version and the KDE 4 version I had tried before were good | Nov 15 03:59 |
| ender2070 | thats the last few weeks only | Nov 15 03:59 |
| sebsebseb | and the one I tried earlier it had a nice way of showing files and pictures ands tuff | Nov 15 03:59 |
| sebsebseb | and I am thinking I quite like that | Nov 15 03:59 |
| sebsebseb | I am getting bored of Nautilus | Nov 15 03:59 |
| ender2070 | i got bored/sick of gnome | Nov 15 04:00 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : http://contexts.org/socimages/files/2008/06/2.jpeg | Nov 15 04:00 |
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| sebsebseb | I think I might give KDE 4 a proper try soon, after a little customizing, and not just go back to Gnome | Nov 15 04:00 |
| ender2070 | I went from KDE to Gnome 2.16, back to KDE 4.2 and on | Nov 15 04:00 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : http://contexts.org/socimages/files/2008/05/condiswimsuit.jpg | Nov 15 04:00 |
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| sebsebseb | ender2070: yeah exactly I am getting a bit bored of Gnome I guess really, but Gnome 2 will be available in the repo for the next Ubuntu I guess | Nov 15 04:01 |
| ender2070 | gnome 2 is old | Nov 15 04:01 |
| sebsebseb | I meant to put | Nov 15 04:01 |
| sebsebseb | Gnome 3 | Nov 15 04:01 |
| ender2070 | Gnome 3 *might* end up in 10.10 | Nov 15 04:01 |
| ender2070 | not 10.04 | Nov 15 04:01 |
| sebsebseb | no? | Nov 15 04:01 |
| ender2070 | Gnome 3 releases in september | Nov 15 04:01 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Nov 15 04:01 |
| ender2070 | it just pushed back | Nov 15 04:02 |
| sebsebseb | oh right I didn't know | Nov 15 04:02 |
| sebsebseb | not been following it | Nov 15 04:02 |
| ender2070 | probably cause mono isn't in good enough shape for final release | Nov 15 04:02 |
| sebsebseb | mono hmm | Nov 15 04:02 |
| sebsebseb | it's going to use loads of Mono? | Nov 15 04:02 |
| ender2070 | im speaking in jest | Nov 15 04:03 |
| ender2070 | i dont know why, probably cause shell needs loads of work | Nov 15 04:03 |
| _Hicham_ | no mono | Nov 15 04:03 |
| sebsebseb | remind me what jest means? I think I knew what it meant | Nov 15 04:03 |
| _Hicham_ | it is actually the interface redesign | Nov 15 04:03 |
| ender2070 | jest = joke | Nov 15 04:03 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Nov 15 04:03 |
| sebsebseb | well I guess Fedora will get Gnome 3 before Ubuntu then | Nov 15 04:04 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Nov 15 04:04 |
| ender2070 | yeah, interface redesign = gnome shell | Nov 15 04:04 |
| sebsebseb | I guess there will be a ppa soon once Gnome 3 is out for Ubuntu | Nov 15 04:04 |
| ender2070 | sebsebseb - nah, F14 will have it in november? | Nov 15 04:04 |
| ender2070 | F13 is june-ish | Nov 15 04:04 |
| ender2070 | gnome 3 wants to release in sept 2010 | Nov 15 04:04 |
| sebsebseb | ok | Nov 15 04:06 |
| ender2070 | as for first | Nov 15 04:06 |
| _Hicham_ | ender2070 : did u test gnome-shell ? | Nov 15 04:06 |
| ender2070 | probably arch | Nov 15 04:06 |
| ender2070 | _Hicham_ i use kde | Nov 15 04:07 |
| _Hicham_ | no, arch isn't that bleeding edge | Nov 15 04:07 |
| sebsebseb | ender2070: probably arch that sounds true | Nov 15 04:07 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA5iM6MjxFw&feature=fvw The Melancholy of the Activist | Nov 15 04:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.onthecommons.org/content.php?id=2565 | Nov 15 04:08 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz should be voted PM | Nov 15 04:08 |
| _Hicham_ | of the UK | Nov 15 04:09 |
| _Hicham_ | you can always compile the latest gnome version | Nov 15 04:09 |
| _Hicham_ | it is not that hard to do | Nov 15 04:09 |
| sebsebseb | sure, but | Nov 15 04:09 |
| _Hicham_ | there are tools simplifying it | Nov 15 04:09 |
| sebsebseb | better to get stuff from the repos or ppa's for Ubuntu really I guess | Nov 15 04:09 |
| _Hicham_ | sebsebseb : if u wanna learn, better start packaging some stuff | Nov 15 04:10 |
| _Hicham_ | gnome isn't that hard to package | Nov 15 04:10 |
| sebsebseb | I have complied stuff from source before | Nov 15 04:10 |
| _Hicham_ | did u package it ? | Nov 15 04:11 |
| ender2070 | arch had kde 4.3.3 before kde did | Nov 15 04:11 |
| _Hicham_ | debhelper and stuff ? | Nov 15 04:11 |
| ender2070 | i think thats bleeding edge | Nov 15 04:11 |
| sebsebseb | I think for something uhmm | Nov 15 04:11 |
| sebsebseb | I don't know | Nov 15 04:11 |
| sebsebseb | ender2070: uh arch had 4.3.3 before KDE itself did? | Nov 15 04:12 |
| ender2070 | yeah | Nov 15 04:12 |
| ender2070 | kde releases to distros first before they announce it | Nov 15 04:12 |
| ender2070 | arch had it 2 days in advance | Nov 15 04:12 |
| ender2070 | lol | Nov 15 04:12 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Nov 15 04:12 |
| ender2070 | the #kde ppl didnt like it, in case bugs popped up between then | Nov 15 04:12 |
| sebsebseb | KDE people didn't like what? | Nov 15 04:13 |
| _Hicham_ | I don't know, but overall i always found fedora to be the most bleeding edge distro | Nov 15 04:13 |
| ender2070 | fedora is bleeding edge for technology | Nov 15 04:13 |
| ender2070 | pulseaudio, packagekit, those types of things | Nov 15 04:14 |
| sebsebseb | ender2070: KDE didn't like what? in other words so I understand? | Nov 15 04:14 |
| ender2070 | version wise, arch is very up to date | Nov 15 04:14 |
| ender2070 | sebsebseb - they were saying that distros are supposed to hold onto it and wait for kde's announcement, in case there are last minute fixes | Nov 15 04:14 |
| _Hicham_ | ender2070 : u can use rawhide | Nov 15 04:14 |
| schestowitz | Megaphone Wars - The Suppression of Free Speech < http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znY13gLQ_yE&feature=related > | Nov 15 04:15 |
| sebsebseb | ender2070: ah ha | Nov 15 04:15 |
| _Hicham_ | and stay up-to-date forever | Nov 15 04:15 |
| sebsebseb | ,but Arch wants to make sure they have loads of stuff first | Nov 15 04:15 |
| sebsebseb | and so | Nov 15 04:15 |
| ender2070 | _Hicham_ you can use rawhide but then you're on your own if stuff breaks | Nov 15 04:15 |
| sebsebseb | they do it | Nov 15 04:15 |
| sebsebseb | ? | Nov 15 04:15 |
| ender2070 | arch is a rolling release | Nov 15 04:15 |
| ender2070 | they dont wait 6 months to release all the cool stuff | Nov 15 04:15 |
| sebsebseb | yeah rolling release meaning always staying up to date with the latest? | Nov 15 04:15 |
| ender2070 | pretty much | Nov 15 04:15 |
| _Hicham_ | ender2070 : ur on ur own in arch too | Nov 15 04:16 |
| sebsebseb | yeah 6 months is quite a wait for a new Ubuntu version really | Nov 15 04:16 |
| ender2070 | well yes but you dont run into half finished tools | Nov 15 04:16 |
| ender2070 | sometimes | Nov 15 04:16 |
| sebsebseb | the last bit? | Nov 15 04:16 |
| _Hicham_ | means breaks everytime | Nov 15 04:16 |
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| _Hicham_ | arch linux have a lot of breakage | Nov 15 04:17 |
| ender2070 | its hard to explain to you | Nov 15 04:17 |
| sebsebseb | Arch has unfinnished tools | Nov 15 04:17 |
| sebsebseb | since it's rolling | Nov 15 04:17 |
| sebsebseb | the very latest | Nov 15 04:17 |
| sebsebseb | ? | Nov 15 04:17 |
| ender2070 | no | Nov 15 04:17 |
| ender2070 | archs tools are done, they know you're installing the latest stuff all the time | Nov 15 04:17 |
| ender2070 | rawhide sometimes has bugs in the updates because they are experimenting and trying different things that the general public wont be running | Nov 15 04:18 |
| ender2070 | you dont want to run rawhide f13 right now, for example | Nov 15 04:18 |
| ender2070 | its going to get very broken in the next two days | Nov 15 04:18 |
| _Hicham_ | huh, what makes it different than rawhide ? | Nov 15 04:19 |
| sebsebseb | I don't know what rawhide is, and f13 you mean Fedora 13? | Nov 15 04:19 |
| ender2070 | rawhide is the unstable tree of redhat | Nov 15 04:19 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Nov 15 04:19 |
| _Hicham_ | ender2070 : I always start using rawhide soon | Nov 15 04:19 |
| ender2070 | its all the test stuff for their next release | Nov 15 04:19 |
| sebsebseb | ah ok | Nov 15 04:19 |
| sebsebseb | thanks | Nov 15 04:19 |
| ender2070 | i do sort of agree with hicham still | Nov 15 04:20 |
| ender2070 | fedora is pretty current and up to date | Nov 15 04:20 |
| _Hicham_ | ender2070 : u can undone changes in rawhide easily | Nov 15 04:20 |
| sebsebseb | well I even knew that | Nov 15 04:20 |
| ender2070 | out of the full binary distros, it is #1 for latest stuff | Nov 15 04:20 |
| sebsebseb | Fedora is more cutting edge than Ubuntu | Nov 15 04:20 |
| _Hicham_ | ender2070 : and revert to stable version of a package | Nov 15 04:20 |
| _Hicham_ | ender2070 : that is what I do with rawhide | Nov 15 04:21 |
| ender2070 | if you're running arch you got all that stuff under control | Nov 15 04:21 |
| _Hicham_ | ender2070 : I don't think so | Nov 15 04:21 |
| _Hicham_ | redhat's bugzilla is more responsive | Nov 15 04:22 |
| ender2070 | redhat has more staff | Nov 15 04:22 |
| ender2070 | arch is 6 canadians | Nov 15 04:22 |
| _Hicham_ | ender2070 : rawhide sometimes has development stuff | Nov 15 04:22 |
| _Hicham_ | like the case with Firefox-3.5 in Fedora 11 | Nov 15 04:22 |
| _Hicham_ | rawhide even have alpha software | Nov 15 04:23 |
| ender2070 | firefox 3.5 was out in f11 | Nov 15 04:23 |
| ender2070 | beta | Nov 15 04:23 |
| _Hicham_ | so it helps upstream more | Nov 15 04:23 |
| _Hicham_ | arch ships stable versions only | Nov 15 04:23 |
| ender2070 | nono | Nov 15 04:23 |
| ender2070 | wait yes | Nov 15 04:23 |
| ender2070 | but they usually ship quite fast | Nov 15 04:24 |
| ender2070 | they had kde 4.3.3 before it was out | Nov 15 04:24 |
| ender2070 | fedora is still working on 4.3.3 | Nov 15 04:24 |
| _Hicham_ | huh, u have them in updates testing | Nov 15 04:24 |
| ender2070 | updates testing isnt updates | Nov 15 04:24 |
| _Hicham_ | ah, what is it ? | Nov 15 04:25 |
| ender2070 | its testing | Nov 15 04:25 |
| ender2070 | for updates | Nov 15 04:25 |
| ender2070 | you'll notice arch doesnt do that, lol | Nov 15 04:25 |
| ender2070 | hence, breakage | Nov 15 04:25 |
| _Hicham_ | i usually push things to updates directly | Nov 15 04:25 |
| _Hicham_ | i used updates-testing once | Nov 15 04:25 |
| _Hicham_ | but since a lot of people don't use it, i pushed it to updates | Nov 15 04:26 |
| ender2070 | they wanted to hack and backport some 4.4 stuff, thats why they are testing it | Nov 15 04:26 |
| ender2070 | they want a smooth upgrade to 4.4 | Nov 15 04:26 |
| _Hicham_ | a lot of developers pushes directly to updates | Nov 15 04:26 |
| ender2070 | yes, not such a good idea | Nov 15 04:27 |
| _Hicham_ | because u have to wait 2 days for u package to be in the repos | Nov 15 04:27 |
| _Hicham_ | so if u use updates-testing, ur update will be in updates repos in 4 days at least | Nov 15 04:27 |
| ender2070 | yeah | Nov 15 04:28 |
| ender2070 | but its tested | Nov 15 04:28 |
| ender2070 | they can get in trouble for skipping testing | Nov 15 04:28 |
| _Hicham_ | u can predict trouble | Nov 15 04:29 |
| _Hicham_ | if u know what packages depend on ur own | Nov 15 04:30 |
| _Hicham_ | sebsebseb : test the following command "notify-send Hello sebsebseb" | Nov 15 04:32 |
| ender2070 | trivial updates will go to updates | Nov 15 04:32 |
| ender2070 | big stuff goes in updates-testing, like a WM | Nov 15 04:33 |
| ender2070 | I hang out in #fedora-kde, they're gonna have Qt 4.6 and KDE 4.4 pretty close to release | Nov 15 04:34 |
| ender2070 | :) | Nov 15 04:34 |
| _Hicham_ | ender2070 : and it is tested | Nov 15 04:34 |
| ender2070 | it'll hit updates-testing on release day im sure | Nov 15 04:35 |
| ender2070 | which is why i say "pretty close" | Nov 15 04:35 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Gartner Group and the “Analyst Tax” http://bit.ly/2uyyNU | Nov 15 04:35 | |
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| ender2070 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMjMPlXzdA&feature=related | Nov 15 04:39 |
| ender2070 | how to survive the police | Nov 15 04:39 |
| _Hicham_ | how to survive Novell | Nov 15 04:44 |
| _Hicham_ | Windows 7 vs OpenSUSE 11.2 | Nov 15 04:46 |
| _Hicham_ | http://schestowitz.opensuse.org | Nov 15 04:46 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Is the #Mono Project Run Partly by #Microsoft Now? http://bit.ly/11fUZe #trojan | Nov 15 04:59 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/0,1518,661301,00.html#ref=rss | Nov 15 05:01 |
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| schestowitz | Haha. Brilliant | Nov 15 05:01 |
| _Hicham_ | Mono Project is run mostly by Schestowitz | Nov 15 05:05 |
| _Hicham_ | Schestowitz is the lead developer and project architect | Nov 15 05:06 |
| _Hicham_ | actually, schestowitz has code Mono.Winforms | Nov 15 05:06 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz has also coded libgdiplus | Nov 15 05:06 |
| _Hicham_ | currently he is planning to write some mono BN bindings | Nov 15 05:07 |
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| ender2070 | what are you talking about? | Nov 15 05:14 |
| ender2070 | oh likely those news sites are just wrong about m$ releasing mono | Nov 15 05:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | or they're confused at what mono is | Nov 15 05:17 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Vista7 Already Cracked (Within Weeks), Just Like #Vista http://bit.ly/1YgqqB | Nov 15 05:17 | |
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| schestowitz | ender2070: can you blame them? | Nov 15 05:18 |
| schestowitz | The Mono news is mostly in Microsoft blogs | Nov 15 05:18 |
| schestowitz | It's about MVS | Nov 15 05:18 |
| schestowitz | I's hard to keep track of who actually drive the thing | Nov 15 05:18 |
| schestowitz | Gaps blurring | Nov 15 05:19 |
| ender2070 | ohhhh | Nov 15 05:19 |
| schestowitz | Not because Microsofr embraces Linux | Nov 15 05:19 |
| ender2070 | for sure thats happening | Nov 15 05:19 |
| schestowitz | Opposite | Nov 15 05:19 |
| schestowitz | Linux embraces Microsoft, thanks to Novell | Nov 15 05:19 |
| schestowitz | Novell Linux = CheapWindoX | Nov 15 05:20 |
| schestowitz | 5:30am... zzzz 4 me | Nov 15 05:32 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: What do you think of the "Project Natal" thing? | Nov 15 06:19 |
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| DaemonFC | well, OpenSuse is pretty sharp | Nov 15 06:33 |
| DaemonFC | I may stay on it, it's the best working distribution I've tested on this box so far | Nov 15 06:34 |
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| ender2070 | fedora | Nov 15 07:41 |
| ender2070 | fedoraaaaaaaaaaaaa | Nov 15 07:41 |
| cubezzz | I'm not sure about OpenSuse | Nov 15 07:49 |
| ender2070 | yeah | Nov 15 07:50 |
| cubezzz | It is sponsered by Novell | Nov 15 07:51 |
| ender2070 | suse is owned by THE DEVIL!!! | Nov 15 07:51 |
| ender2070 | 11.2 is actually 666 in latin | Nov 15 07:52 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Nov 15 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | it's actually really nice | Nov 15 07:55 |
| ender2070 | its ok | Nov 15 07:55 |
| ender2070 | too much gtk for me | Nov 15 07:55 |
| DaemonFC | in KDE you mean? | Nov 15 07:55 |
| ender2070 | oh yes | Nov 15 07:55 |
| DaemonFC | their GNOME desktop is good, I haven't installed KDE | Nov 15 07:55 |
| ender2070 | i assume opensuse is kde | Nov 15 07:55 |
| ender2070 | if u talk about it | Nov 15 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, it defaults to that on the DVD installer, but you can easily click GNOME instead | Nov 15 07:56 |
| ender2070 | yeah but i assume default | Nov 15 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | both are well supported, KDE is just what you get if you click through and accept the default | Nov 15 07:56 |
| ender2070 | <--only runs KDE anyways | Nov 15 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, I noticed an interesting thing a while back | Nov 15 07:57 |
| ender2070 | KDE is default so ill assume first you're running it if u talk about opensuse | Nov 15 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | you always get GTK+ apps and GNOME libs in KDE | Nov 15 07:57 |
| ender2070 | except for you, i know you use gnome now | Nov 15 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | but almost never get a QT app you need in GNOME | Nov 15 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | and never a KDE lib | Nov 15 07:58 |
| ender2070 | im backwards | Nov 15 07:58 |
| ender2070 | I use mostly Qt/KDE apps | Nov 15 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | install Firefox in Kubuntu and watch all the GNOME packages flood in | Nov 15 07:58 |
| ender2070 | Konquerer or Arora | Nov 15 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | what KDE needs is better support for webcams | Nov 15 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | something like Cheese | Nov 15 07:59 |
| ender2070 | why | Nov 15 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know. You can use VLC obviously, but it's a pain in the ass to set it up, cause you need to remember which devices to tell it to use | Nov 15 08:00 |
| cubezzz | you should be able to run KDE apps under GNOME | Nov 15 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME apps just tend to figure out what device your cam is and use that | Nov 15 08:00 |
| ender2070 | Kopete supports webcams | Nov 15 08:01 |
| cubezzz | it's just front-end stuff | Nov 15 08:01 |
| cubezzz | six of one, half-dozen of the other | Nov 15 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, Kind of | Nov 15 08:02 |
| cubezzz | example: it doesn't matter if I use KDE or GNOME for my scanner | Nov 15 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't support using them on Yahoo or Windows Live | Nov 15 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | which is where I need it | Nov 15 08:02 |
| cubezzz | what matters is I can communicate with it at the driver level | Nov 15 08:02 |
| ender2070 | yes yes | Nov 15 08:03 |
| ender2070 | i like the emersion I get from all kde/qt apps | Nov 15 08:03 |
| ender2070 | menus, look and feel, behavior | Nov 15 08:03 |
| ender2070 | personal preferences tho | Nov 15 08:04 |
| ender2070 | not technical | Nov 15 08:04 |
| cubezzz | KDE has become too elaborate and too slow | Nov 15 08:04 |
| ender2070 | lol | Nov 15 08:04 |
| ender2070 | gnome feels like that for me, except way too little elaborate | Nov 15 08:05 |
| cubezzz | here are my perferences for WM: | Nov 15 08:06 |
| cubezzz | Old KDE is #1 | Nov 15 08:06 |
| cubezzz | New Gnome #2 | Nov 15 08:06 |
| cubezzz | and text/ncurses #3 :) | Nov 15 08:06 |
| ender2070 | i went from kde 3 to gnome 2 | Nov 15 08:06 |
| cubezzz | I did the konstruct thing with 3.4.2 | Nov 15 08:06 |
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| ender2070 | gnome 2 had a nicer look at the time | Nov 15 08:06 |
| cubezzz | stuck with it | Nov 15 08:06 |
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| ender2070 | I just recently went back to KDE, with F11 | Nov 15 08:07 |
| cubezzz | on older hardware I just don't have "upgrade mania" anymore | Nov 15 08:07 |
| ender2070 | 4.2 | Nov 15 08:07 |
| cubezzz | even Linus has lamented Linux was becoming bloated | Nov 15 08:08 |
| cubezzz | the whole thing together | Nov 15 08:08 |
| ender2070 | no he said the kernel | Nov 15 08:09 |
| cubezzz | ok, then I said that :) | Nov 15 08:09 |
| cubezzz | which it is | Nov 15 08:09 |
| ender2070 | it might be getting bloated too, but not on the scale of ms | Nov 15 08:10 |
| cubezzz | no, not compared to Windows | Nov 15 08:10 |
| ender2070 | I don't see the bloat either cause most of it can be removed | Nov 15 08:11 |
| ender2070 | anyone can install icewm and bare minimals to compile their most used apps | Nov 15 08:11 |
| cubezzz | yes, that's what I'm moving towards | Nov 15 08:12 |
| ender2070 | icewm runs fine on old stuff like pentium 2's | Nov 15 08:12 |
| ender2070 | i used to run icewm | Nov 15 08:12 |
| ender2070 | xfce, afterstep, fvwm2 | Nov 15 08:13 |
| ender2070 | now I just want something that works | Nov 15 08:13 |
| cubezzz | icewm didn't work? | Nov 15 08:17 |
| ender2070 | oh it did | Nov 15 08:17 |
| ender2070 | i mean something i dont have to mess with | Nov 15 08:18 |
| cubezzz | ha, that worked easier than I thought | Nov 15 08:20 |
| cubezzz | cross-compiled newest lsof | Nov 15 08:20 |
| cubezzz | 4.82 | Nov 15 08:30 |
| cubezzz | I find I have to go looking for the source in all sorts of different places | Nov 15 08:31 |
| cubezzz | as far as I can tell, there is no "all linux source code here" site | Nov 15 08:31 |
| ender2070 | of course | Nov 15 08:32 |
| cubezzz | it's a little disappointing I can't just build a system using all GNU stuff | Nov 15 08:33 |
| cubezzz | maybe I'll try the Hurd Live CD :) | Nov 15 08:36 |
| ender2070 | lol | Nov 15 08:36 |
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| DaemonFC | cubezzz, The HURD is as old as me | Nov 15 08:46 |
| DaemonFC | it should work well, so go for it ;) | Nov 15 08:46 |
| DaemonFC | it's never been officially canceled | Nov 15 08:46 |
| DaemonFC | to save face, someone at the FSF does a commit now and then | Nov 15 08:47 |
| ender2070 | i heard each time they are close to getting it work they end up rewriting | Nov 15 08:48 |
| cubezzz | I think a new version came out recently | Nov 15 08:48 |
| ender2070 | its funny cause it uses linux for drivers | Nov 15 08:48 |
| cubezzz | yeah | Nov 15 08:48 |
| cubezzz | and there's like 3 guys working on it | Nov 15 08:49 |
| cubezzz | sorry, 4 guys :) | Nov 15 08:49 |
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| cubezzz | well, it was an ambitious project, probably too much so | Nov 15 08:50 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to stick XP in Virtual Box | Nov 15 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | I'm thinking I could run Windows Live Messenger on XP and do a USB pass through to get it to see my cam | Nov 15 09:09 |
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| DaemonFC | http://susestudio.com/ | Nov 15 09:39 |
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| maarth_ | morning | Nov 15 09:43 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @sunil_abraham: at an #IGF09 Workshop 361: "Open Standards: A rights-based framework." Tim Berners-Lee's keynote on Open Data | Nov 15 10:18 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @sunil_abraham: #IGF09 361: Open Standards...: Rishab Aiyer Ghosh what if the marriage registrar at Sharm El Sheik only services those in | Nov 15 10:50 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @ImagineInternet: RG - the best way to have interoperability between two standards is to have one standard #IGF09 | Nov 15 10:51 | |
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| schestowitz | [08:08] <cubezzz> even Linus has lamented Linux was becoming bloated | Nov 15 11:02 |
| schestowitz | No | Nov 15 11:02 |
| schestowitz | Novell employee said that | Nov 15 11:02 |
| schestowitz | Linus could sort of say yes/no | Nov 15 11:02 |
| oiaohm | Context was more a normal Linus call to arms as well. | Nov 15 11:07 |
| cubezzz | I saw him say it :) | Nov 15 11:07 |
| cubezzz | not a quote, a video with him saying that | Nov 15 11:07 |
| oiaohm | Did you see the lead up cubezzz | Nov 15 11:08 |
| cubezzz | I'll see if I can find it again | Nov 15 11:08 |
| oiaohm | The key is the lead up cubezzz | Nov 15 11:08 |
| oiaohm | In the context of the OS Linus wanted Linux is bloated. | Nov 15 11:09 |
| oiaohm | But compared to a lot of other OS's out there Linux is no where near bad. | Nov 15 11:09 |
| cubezzz | yes I agree | Nov 15 11:09 |
| oiaohm | Linus has no dream that Linux would ever be as big or cover as much hardware. | Nov 15 11:10 |
| cubezzz | there's something up with cal... oh well | Nov 15 11:10 |
| cubezzz | can't get it to hilight the date | Nov 15 11:11 |
| oiaohm | Lot of problems have come from the lack of long term plaining because Linux saws not going to last cubezzz | Nov 15 11:11 |
| oiaohm | BKL is one of those nasties. | Nov 15 11:11 |
| cubezzz | there's "program bloat" but that is no big deal | Nov 15 11:12 |
| oiaohm | Name cause of 90 percent of program bloat cubezzz | Nov 15 11:12 |
| cubezzz | a million programs that do the same thing :) | Nov 15 11:13 |
| oiaohm | At runtime poor compliers and poor code sharing. | Nov 15 11:13 |
| oiaohm | Linux has most bloat coming from poor compliers. | Nov 15 11:13 |
| oiaohm | Windows has most coming from poor code sharing. | Nov 15 11:13 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Bom dia :) | Nov 15 11:14 | |
| cubezzz | Linuxcon in Japan maybe | Nov 15 11:17 |
| oiaohm | plummers conf for the Linus one the round table cubezzz | Nov 15 11:17 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: I'm quoting you... | Nov 15 11:29 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RT: @anivar: RT @ImagineInternet: RG - the best way to have interoperability between two standards is to have one standard #IGF09 | Nov 15 11:36 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Imitates #Google Revenue Model on the Desktop: Adverts Come to #Vista7 Desktops http://ur1.ca/fta2 | Nov 15 11:37 | |
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| cubezzz | Linuxcon in Portland 2009 | Nov 15 11:47 |
| cubezzz | watching it now | Nov 15 11:47 |
| cubezzz | "Linux is huge and bloated" :) | Nov 15 11:47 |
| oiaohm | Yep plummers | Nov 15 11:48 |
| cubezzz | I'm still using 2.4 a lot | Nov 15 11:49 |
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| cubezzz | still trying to figure out all the stuff sharp was doing on the zaurus | Nov 15 11:52 |
| cubezzz | even though zaurus is sort of dead | Nov 15 11:52 |
| cubezzz | even #zaurus is dead | Nov 15 11:53 |
| oiaohm | Yep 2.4 over a 9 year old design. | Nov 15 11:59 |
| cubezzz | not a lot of docs floating around either, not on zaurus at least | Nov 15 12:03 |
| oiaohm | Normal for the devices of the time cubezzz | Nov 15 12:05 |
| oiaohm | Most were black boxes. | Nov 15 12:05 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Vou assar um frango... | Nov 15 12:06 | |
| oiaohm | Really update adversiting could be a good money spinner. schestowitz | Nov 15 12:10 |
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| schestowitz | Dell does this, I think | Nov 15 12:11 |
| schestowitz | Popups for "buy ink" | Nov 15 12:11 |
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| cubezzz | right :) | Nov 15 12:16 |
| cubezzz | it's always time to buy ink | Nov 15 12:16 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Breaks the #Law , Teaches World That ‘Evil’ #GPL is ‘Viral’ http://bit.ly/3DI3qi | Nov 15 12:20 | |
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| schestowitz | Mortgage your children, buy a pint of precious ink | Nov 15 12:27 |
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| schestowitz | Print, print, print, consume, consume, consume | Nov 15 12:28 |
| schestowitz | Save the economy, proceed to your next "Shopping experience" :-) | Nov 15 12:28 |
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| schestowitz | US mosques and New York skyscraper seized over alleged Iran links http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/13/alavi-assa-mosque-skyscraper-seized | Nov 15 12:30 |
| cubezzz | I don't even use printers | Nov 15 12:30 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More crimes from Blackwater http://ping.fm/SYNZ5 will they ever go to prison? Naaa. | Nov 15 12:30 | |
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| schestowitz | http://noberlusconiday.wordpress.com/ | Nov 15 12:31 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/09/peak-oil-international-energy-agency | Nov 15 12:31 |
| oiaohm | We have not hit peak just yet. schestowitz | Nov 15 12:38 |
| oiaohm | Peak hits in about 2015 | Nov 15 12:38 |
| oiaohm | Past that point if new fields are not found its going down. | Nov 15 12:39 |
| oiaohm | I also note they did not include the percentage of fields than cannot be extracted from schestowitz | Nov 15 12:40 |
| oiaohm | Like the known field under fraser island. Due to stablity of field construction it cannot be touched. | Nov 15 12:41 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: but how long for? | Nov 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | Nothing lasts ad infinitum | Nov 15 13:05 |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-10397759-83.html | Nov 15 13:06 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: attempt to extract the field equals field breaking open into the sea. | Nov 15 13:08 |
| oiaohm | Fine if you don't care about triggering a natrual form of oil spill. schestowitz | Nov 15 13:09 |
| cubezzz | hmmm | Nov 15 13:18 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Vou instalar o grub2 | Nov 15 13:20 | |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: I see... | Nov 15 13:30 |
| schestowitz | Wow, I'm finding so much bad news for VIsta 7 today | Nov 15 13:30 |
| schestowitz | Security, compat, no sales, etc. | Nov 15 13:31 |
| schestowitz | This turns out to be like VIsta, maybe worse | Nov 15 13:31 |
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| MikeyC | Roy! | Nov 15 13:32 |
| schestowitz | Hey | Nov 15 13:33 |
| MikeyC | You ok? | Nov 15 13:33 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Parece que já foi instalado... vou reiniciar, desejem-me sorte | Nov 15 13:34 | |
| schestowitz | MikeyC: yeah, sure | Nov 15 13:37 |
| schestowitz | MikeyC: did you watch what I sent you? | Nov 15 13:37 |
| oiaohm | http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/newsandevents/pressreleases/2_earth-sized_bodies/ Bugger | Nov 15 13:39 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: too far anyway? | Nov 15 13:43 |
| schestowitz | You can't send an ark over there with our species | Nov 15 13:43 |
| oiaohm | They are suns. | Nov 15 13:43 |
| schestowitz | And it's probably exaggerated; even it it was a planet, it would not be the right temperature for us | Nov 15 13:43 |
| schestowitz | Terra-transforming is needed | Nov 15 13:43 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Done, agora só falta personalizar um bocado o grub2 | Nov 15 13:43 | |
| oiaohm | They are dwarf suns schestowitz | Nov 15 13:44 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: maybe we can evolve to live in gas giants :-) | Nov 15 13:44 |
| oiaohm | earth sized with O2 | Nov 15 13:44 |
| oiaohm | Just going to crush as flat. | Nov 15 13:44 |
| oiaohm | as/us | Nov 15 13:44 |
| schestowitz | Size of planet has no meaning | Nov 15 13:44 |
| schestowitz | We could live on a Sun-sized Earth | Nov 15 13:44 |
| schestowitz | Would be nice... | Nov 15 13:44 |
| oiaohm | Mass | Nov 15 13:44 |
| schestowitz | Conditions matter | Nov 15 13:44 |
| oiaohm | Its way heavier than earth. | Nov 15 13:45 |
| cubezzz | gravity? | Nov 15 13:45 |
| MikeyC | have you seen ho? | Nov 15 13:45 |
| schestowitz | No, why? | Nov 15 13:45 |
| MikeyC | just wondering | Nov 15 13:45 |
| oiaohm | Compressed core of a sun schestowitz | Nov 15 13:45 |
| schestowitz | Probably running his way out of misery | Nov 15 13:45 |
| MikeyC | lol | Nov 15 13:45 |
| schestowitz | It's like Forrest Gump | Nov 15 13:45 |
| oiaohm | Now the funny part about those suns there could be life there that can visit earth. | Nov 15 13:46 |
| MikeyC | the running man | Nov 15 13:46 |
| oiaohm | Just we cannot visit the suns. | Nov 15 13:46 |
| cubezzz | ahem, how many light _years_ away? | Nov 15 13:46 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/184683.asp | Nov 15 13:46 |
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| cubezzz | do you have warp drive tech? :) | Nov 15 13:46 |
| schestowitz | Nuclear devices for all now | Nov 15 13:46 |
| schestowitz | MikeyC: http://www.burningman.com/ | Nov 15 13:47 |
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| cubezzz | have to remember the orange blobs though :) | Nov 15 13:47 |
| MikeyC | you done your step ups yet roy? | Nov 15 13:51 |
| schestowitz | No, why? | Nov 15 13:51 |
| schestowitz | It's just a contest ^_^ | Nov 15 13:51 |
| MikeyC | no shit! | Nov 15 13:51 |
| schestowitz | Ask the person who runs in the Olympics what s/he achieved | Nov 15 13:52 |
| schestowitz | I mean actually to /think/ about it | Nov 15 13:52 |
| schestowitz | Thought are "not good for you" | Nov 15 13:52 |
| MikeyC | huh? | Nov 15 13:52 |
| schestowitz | Just follow guidance from the corporate media :-) | Nov 15 13:52 |
| schestowitz | Be good citizens... be like athletes and beautiful people from the films :-) | Nov 15 13:52 |
| oiaohm | cubezzz: light _years_ away there are ways we can work around that in future. Solve how one frog suspends and its mostly not a issue. Life span of over million years is possiable with it. Question is more if it still will be there when you get there. | Nov 15 13:52 |
| schestowitz | If not, then you're ugly and worthless and you need to go buy some stuff to look better :-) | Nov 15 13:53 |
| MikeyC | huh? | Nov 15 13:53 |
| schestowitz | MikeyC: I'm joking | Nov 15 13:53 |
| schestowitz | I'm saying, it's just a contest | Nov 15 13:53 |
| MikeyC | and? | Nov 15 13:53 |
| schestowitz | It has no practical meaning | Nov 15 13:53 |
| schestowitz | It's a goal-meet goal situation | Nov 15 13:53 |
| schestowitz | Such is life.. philosphically speaking | Nov 15 13:53 |
| MikeyC | its good that you're taking coming second so well:) | Nov 15 13:54 |
| schestowitz | People set goals that are inspired by others and then meet them | Nov 15 13:54 |
| schestowitz | These contents are such an example | Nov 15 13:54 |
| schestowitz | *contests | Nov 15 13:54 |
| schestowitz | MikeyC: No, also when I came 1st I say it | Nov 15 13:54 |
| MikeyC | sure | Nov 15 13:54 |
| schestowitz | Nothing really changes when it's all over | Nov 15 13:54 |
| schestowitz | Symbolic milestones | Nov 15 13:54 |
| schestowitz | Which never end by the way | Nov 15 13:55 |
| MikeyC | except you don't get your name on the shield | Nov 15 13:55 |
| schestowitz | Even the banksters have goals and ambitions... to be richer than the next guy up the ladder | Nov 15 13:55 |
| schestowitz | They just happen to 'keep score' with numbers, not physical achievements | Nov 15 13:55 |
| schestowitz | MikeyC: there are many shields | Nov 15 13:55 |
| MikeyC | but only one Mr F! | Nov 15 13:56 |
| schestowitz | Shields are like bibles and gold... as worthy as you wish or define them to be | Nov 15 13:56 |
| oiaohm | http://www.naturenorth.com/winter/frozen/frozen3.html << Ie work out how that frog does it exactly then allow humans todo it and hello lot longer life span to get places cubezzz | Nov 15 13:56 |
| schestowitz | It's a lot of mind control or perception shaping... why so many people have some feelings associated with Olympic medals and particular people | Nov 15 13:56 |
| MikeyC | much more talk like this and we will have to send you off to 'second place' counselling :) | Nov 15 13:57 |
| schestowitz | Some people would get excited meeting the Queen for example | Nov 15 13:57 |
| schestowitz | This way, they can tell their mates that the Queen is their mate and this way their status and ego will be elevated, supposedly | Nov 15 13:57 |
| MikeyC | you just keep convincing yourself that it doesn't really matter. | Nov 15 13:57 |
| MikeyC | :) | Nov 15 13:57 |
| schestowitz | It's the impact of PR mostly -- the idea that scarcity in closeness to so-called divine people (also the rich)... well, I ramble now.. | Nov 15 13:58 |
| cubezzz | The Royal Cube was crap btw :) | Nov 15 13:58 |
| cubezzz | since we're talking about Royal stuff | Nov 15 13:58 |
| schestowitz | MikeyC: nope, not at all. | Nov 15 13:58 |
| schestowitz | I say this when I win also | Nov 15 13:58 |
| MikeyC | just as well you entered than eh? | Nov 15 13:58 |
| schestowitz | At least I'm honest about illusions that many people (excluding you) would easily fall for | Nov 15 13:58 |
| MikeyC | that's good | Nov 15 13:59 |
| schestowitz | It makes life better | Nov 15 13:59 |
| schestowitz | Are you coming in today? | Nov 15 14:00 |
| schestowitz | BTW: You could always find something you're less good at. How about playing all musical instruments, including those not invented yet? | Nov 15 14:00 |
| MikeyC | funnily enough i was thinking about learning in the new year | Nov 15 14:01 |
| schestowitz | The danger is to absorb the emptiness and lack of fulfilments that's embedded in people's mind so as to encourage them to shop and fill the void | Nov 15 14:01 |
| schestowitz | MikeyC: good, I remembered. Piano? | Nov 15 14:01 |
| MikeyC | maybe, you could learn to | Nov 15 14:01 |
| schestowitz | Me? | Nov 15 14:02 |
| MikeyC | yup | Nov 15 14:02 |
| schestowitz | I did, when I was young... can't remember much. | Nov 15 14:02 |
| schestowitz | I wanted t play trombone though | Nov 15 14:02 |
| schestowitz | I could play the flute too, at school | Nov 15 14:02 |
| schestowitz | It was obligatory to all | Nov 15 14:02 |
| MikeyC | i can play the recorder | Nov 15 14:02 |
| schestowitz | Heh. Why don't they teach drums? | Nov 15 14:02 |
| schestowitz | BTW, I didn't know Karen Carpenter played drums | Nov 15 14:03 |
| schestowitz | Only recently I saw two documentaries | Nov 15 14:03 |
| oiaohm | I have always wanted to make weapon shaped music making items. | Nov 15 14:03 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOCk-D2fOpg&feature=related | Nov 15 14:03 |
| schestowitz | And http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tTaDV6YLek&feature=related | Nov 15 14:03 |
| schestowitz | Like a rifle with a nozzle you stick in the mouth? | Nov 15 14:04 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: http://media.southparkstudios.com/media/images/511/image_07.gif | Nov 15 14:05 |
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| oiaohm | More the old classic weapons schestowitz | Nov 15 14:05 |
| oiaohm | Maces swords and so on. | Nov 15 14:06 |
| oiaohm | Mostly goes back to me playing saws at one point schestowitz | Nov 15 14:07 |
| schestowitz | MikeyC: what do you think about http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2009/11/13/use-these-locators-to-find-your-h1n1-flu-shot/ ? | Nov 15 14:10 |
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| schestowitz | I don't think I've raised the subject before... | Nov 15 14:10 |
| oiaohm | Yes would think would be funny it walk in in all odd style armor take it off and start playing. | Nov 15 14:10 |
| schestowitz | In a mall | Nov 15 14:10 |
| oiaohm | Now in doing it would bring up some interesting questions. | Nov 15 14:12 |
| oiaohm | Like is a sword that can be played like a flute or something else strange still a sword. | Nov 15 14:13 |
| schestowitz | MSN Direct to Be Shut Down in 2012 http://www.gpsworld.com/lbs/enter-google-exit-microsoft-stage-left-9128 | Nov 15 14:13 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: http://www.kungfukc.com/images/weapons/Flute.JPG | Nov 15 14:14 |
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| schestowitz | Some nasty stuff where that came from: http://www.kungfukc.com/weapons.html | Nov 15 14:14 |
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| oiaohm | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullroarer_%28music%29 These are fun. We use to make them out of school rulers. | Nov 15 14:21 |
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| schestowitz | World looters: the economy is FINE. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jlt53grPjqKDa8k3HMivUzZZUlNQD9BU8EU00 | Nov 15 14:27 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.newyorker.com/talk/2009/09/28/090928ta_talk_khatchadourian | Nov 15 14:28 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] braaaains. today i must get shoes. i would like to send my brane and leave my body here asleep. zzzzzz. | Nov 15 14:57 | |
| *schestowitz has kicked criton from #boycottnovell (User terminated!) | Nov 15 14:59 | |
| schestowitz | Mutex ban-evasion | Nov 15 14:59 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=5256 | Nov 15 15:02 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Arranjar novo tema pro kde | Nov 15 15:09 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Afinal mudei de ideias... | Nov 15 15:12 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @sunil_abraham: Tim Berners-Lee endorses Royalty Free #openstandards in his keynote at the inaugural session of #IGF09 | Nov 15 15:25 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Pakistan's Ali Asad Gilani, Brazil #ACTA tramples on fundamental human rights of developing countries. http://bit.ly/1mL5Vf (via @eddankatz) | Nov 15 15:26 | |
| schestowitz | Nice headline: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10393379-1.html | Nov 15 15:26 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @ONIAsia: ONI being censored by IGF organizers. According to them no posters or media mentioning China allowed at #igf09 #censorship | Nov 15 15:35 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20091114101637997 | Nov 15 15:36 |
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| schestowitz | http://discuss.itwire.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=16424#p56244 "Thank you for the kind words. Not many of them these days." | Nov 15 15:38 |
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| schestowitz | http://behindkde.org/people/mpyne/ "I'd assemble FOSS-TRON out of them both and destroy all opposition. But RMS and Linus are both huge pillars of the Free and Open Source communities. So the combination of the two would be highly formidable. And more seriously, you need both kinds." | Nov 15 15:41 |
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| schestowitz | http://phones.verizonwireless.com/motorola/droid/specs/#/specs | Nov 15 15:44 |
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| schestowitz | "Comcast’s plan to gain control of NBC Universal, which is expected to be announced in the weeks ahead, barring any unforeseen developments, is likely to be the first major test of the Obama administration’s media regulators. Given its scope, analysts and public interest groups anticipate that the deal will undergo intense government scrutiny." | Nov 15 15:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/09/business/media/09comcast.html | Nov 15 15:49 |
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| schestowitz | http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200911101308DOWJONESDJONLINE000386_FORTUNE5.htm | Nov 15 15:58 |
| schestowitz | '"We expect a renegotiation of the deal price to reflect deterioration in Sun's businesses," Cross Research analyst Richard Williams said.' | Nov 15 15:58 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/thisdayintech/2009/11/1110fred-cohen-first-computer-virus | Nov 15 15:59 |
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| cubezzz | I wonder if the Novell/MIcrosoft "partnership" could backfire | Nov 15 16:14 |
| cubezzz | they really seem more like natural enemies | Nov 15 16:14 |
| cubezzz | let's see what's happening with the stock | Nov 15 16:16 |
| cubezzz | hmmm, all the tech stocks are up a bit | Nov 15 16:16 |
| schestowitz | http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/11/12/russia.medvedev.speech/ | Nov 15 16:19 |
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| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putin "Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin (Russian: ru-Putin.ogg Владимир Владимирович Путин (help·info), IPA [vlɐˈdʲimʲɪr vlɐˈdʲimʲɪrəvʲɪtɕ ˈputʲɪn]; born 7 October 1952) was the second President of Russia and is the current Prime Minister of Russia as well as chairman of United Russia and Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the Union of Russia and Belarus. " | Nov 15 16:19 |
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| schestowitz | I didn't realise they had both PM and president. | Nov 15 16:20 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Got the opportunity to play with a Nokia N900. Didn't like it. Surprised. Even happier I bought an HTC Hero. #fb | Nov 15 16:28 | |
| schestowitz | PJ: "Serious complainers, or complainers with a serious personal agenda? Among the relief Monty Widenius and the gang have asked for is to change the license from the GPL to BSD or Apache. That's not FOSS-friendly behavior, folks." | Nov 15 16:29 |
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| schestowitz | bbl | Nov 15 16:37 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] 2012 | Nov 15 17:13 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] 12/21/12 | Nov 15 17:14 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] 12/21/12 21h:12m:21s? | Nov 15 17:16 | |
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| cubezzz | hmmm? | Nov 15 17:33 |
| cubezzz | license for? | Nov 15 17:33 |
| MinceR | license to kill | Nov 15 17:35 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] size 12 shoes are apparently obsolescent in E17. wtf. will try elsewhere in the next coupla days. | Nov 15 17:36 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] New Blog Post: http://bit.ly/4h9X0x "Lucid popey day -1" #fb | Nov 15 17:37 | |
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| trmanco | I just installed grub2 today | Nov 15 17:43 |
| trmanco | and I might start working on phirce again by the end of the month | Nov 15 17:43 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] i don't care if it's windows 7, @arkadyrose and I both waaaant one of these http://is.gd/4VEcP | Nov 15 18:14 | |
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| ender2070 | http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/11/14/2023219/Environmental-Chemicals-Are-Feminizing-Boys | Nov 15 18:22 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Slashdot Science Story | Environmental Chemicals Are Feminizing Boys .::. Size~: 169.19 KB | Nov 15 18:22 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Acabei agora de descobrir que o Ksysguard dá para adicionar abas personalizáveis :) | Nov 15 18:46 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] alguem quer jogar pokerTH comigo? | Nov 15 18:52 | |
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| MikeyC | Hey Roy, how ya doin? How did you get on with the step ups? | Nov 15 18:57 |
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| schestowitz | Fab does the show while drunk and it shows... http://linuxoutlaws.com/podcast/ogg/121 | Nov 15 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Get, MikeyC | Nov 15 19:46 |
| schestowitz | WHat's up? | Nov 15 19:46 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Reagan canceled billion dollar #fusion reactor experiment the day it was completed http://ur1.ca/ftzm #science | Nov 15 19:51 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Bush halted new #solar energy plants during his administration http://ur1.ca/ftzt #science | Nov 15 19:51 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/11/hooksafe_rootkit_protection/ | Nov 15 19:56 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Boffins boast newfangled rootkit blocker • The Register .::. Size~: 28.48 KB | Nov 15 19:56 |
| schestowitz | One rootkit per child | Nov 15 19:56 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Bush also killed the #Bussard #Polywell #fusion reactor research so he could steal the money for the #Iraq #War http://ur1.ca/fu06 | Nov 15 19:56 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Environment damage causing feminized boys http://ur1.ca/fu0s #science | Nov 15 19:56 | |
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| phIRCe-local | Title: Slashdot Science Story | Environmental Chemicals Are Feminizing Boys .::. Size~: 179.02 KB | Nov 15 19:56 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: so with gates' Monsanto investments we might all eventually have a voice like Billy's | Nov 15 19:57 |
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| schestowitz | Hmm.. new: http://open-life.org/ | Nov 15 20:04 |
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| schestowitz | http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/world-bank-public-data-now-in-search.html | Nov 15 20:08 |
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| schestowitz | Don't countries have sovereignty. Why /world/ bank? Convergence? And by whom? | Nov 15 20:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: the world bank isnt exactly a bank | Nov 15 20:10 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody NASA's big pic of central region of Milky Way - http://bit.ly/16SjI1 | Nov 15 20:11 | |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: metabank | Nov 15 20:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a bank for countries | Nov 15 20:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | as opposed to, say, a bank for banks or a bank for people | Nov 15 20:14 |
| schestowitz | Yes, intl' loans | Nov 15 20:14 |
| schestowitz | http://linuxmednews.com/1257384474 | Nov 15 20:15 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Era bom que o caralho da luz parasse de ir aos altos e baixos... assim nao dá, e ainda me vão queimar esta merda toda... | Nov 15 20:15 | |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-10396326-245.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20 | Nov 15 20:19 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Expert says Adobe Flash policy is risky | InSecurity Complex - CNET News .::. Size~: 86.03 KB | Nov 15 20:19 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "The Prodigy - Voodoo People (Pendulum Remix)" ♫ http://blip.fm/~ge450 | Nov 15 20:19 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 27.7 KB | Nov 15 20:20 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Doctor Who was very good! I won't risk annoying anyone who hasn't seen it by spoiling the story! Great stuff! #DoctorWho | Nov 15 20:20 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody URL shorteners working with Internet Archive for long-term preservation - http://bit.ly/6SGp0 | Nov 15 20:23 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Madonna - Celebration (Official Video) - HD 720p" ♫ http://blip.fm/~ge4c7 | Nov 15 20:23 | |
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| schestowitz | http://futurezone.orf.at/stories/1631730/ | Nov 15 20:24 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: Voodoo People is old, old, old | Nov 15 20:24 |
| trmanco | yeah, but it's great great great | Nov 15 20:24 |
| trmanco | music music music | Nov 15 20:24 |
| schestowitz | Breathe is the classic | Nov 15 20:24 |
| schestowitz | Go for samba... I do | Nov 15 20:25 |
| schestowitz | Although he good songs just repat themselves with renditions | Nov 15 20:25 |
| schestowitz | Mostly classics from GIll | Nov 15 20:25 |
| trmanco | samba? | Nov 15 20:26 |
| trmanco | hmm | Nov 15 20:26 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @zittrain UN security forces destroy our poster at Internet Governance Forum for mentioning China's firewall: http://bit.ly/3nF2AG | Nov 15 20:26 | |
| trmanco | how about some "kuduro"? | Nov 15 20:26 |
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| trmanco | "hard ass" LOL | Nov 15 20:27 |
| schestowitz | Tuna is dead, dead, dead. http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20427344.400-tuna-in-peril-as-catches-reach-triple-the-limit.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news | Nov 15 20:28 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Tuna in peril as catches reach triple the limit - environment - 12 November 2009 - New Scientist .::. Size~: 71.72 KB | Nov 15 20:28 |
| schestowitz | Long live fish | Nov 15 20:28 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Buraka Som Sistema - Kalemba (wegue wegue) OFFICIAL VIDEO" ♫ http://blip.fm/~ge4mv | Nov 15 20:28 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] OMG | Nov 15 20:28 | |
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| *MinceR is listening to: Cosmic - Der Acid Rausch | Nov 15 20:29 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] WEGUE WEGUE!!!! | Nov 15 20:30 | |
| schestowitz | Wave - Antonio Carlos Jobim < http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d8y4HxW8Eg > | Nov 15 20:31 |
| schestowitz | "The Apostrophe Protection Society was started in 2001 by John Richards, now its Chairman, with the specific aim of preserving the correct use of this currently much abused punctuation mark in all forms of text written in the English language." http://www.apostrophe.org.uk/ | Nov 15 20:34 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Buraka Som Sistema - Sound of Kuduro" ♫ http://blip.fm/~ge50s | Nov 15 20:36 | |
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| MikeyC | Hey ROy, you ok? | Nov 15 20:37 |
| MikeyC | How did you get on in the step ups? | Nov 15 20:37 |
| schestowitz | http://valleywag.gawker.com/5404312/google-search-box-suggestions-allow-us-to-peer-into-the-internets-dark-disturbing-id | Nov 15 20:37 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Google Search Box Suggestions Allow Us to Peer into the Internet's Dark, Disturbing Id - Google - Gawker .::. Size~: 63.09 KB | Nov 15 20:37 |
| schestowitz | MikeyC: can't remember :-) | Nov 15 20:38 |
| schestowitz | Blacked out... can't recall my score :-p | Nov 15 20:38 |
| MikeyC | :) | Nov 15 20:38 |
| schestowitz | The gym went dark.. passed out... but they got the score | Nov 15 20:38 |
| schestowitz | Just ask them | Nov 15 20:38 |
| MikeyC | you ok? | Nov 15 20:39 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Tikos Groove feat. Mendoca do Rio - Para Sambar (Vocal Extended )" ♫ http://blip.fm/~ge54q | Nov 15 20:39 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 27.7 KB | Nov 15 20:40 |
| schestowitz | MikeyC: Yeah, I'm joking | Nov 15 20:40 |
| MikeyC | ok i was worried there for a moment, so how many did you get matey? | Nov 15 20:40 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Outsiders feat. Amanda Wilson - Keep This Fire Burning" ♫ http://blip.fm/~ge5a8 | Nov 15 20:42 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 27.7 KB | Nov 15 20:43 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Steve Angello & Laidback Luke Ft Robin S - Show Me Love (Out NOW)" ♫ http://blip.fm/~ge5c1 | Nov 15 20:43 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 27.7 KB | Nov 15 20:44 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] A Youtubas esta todo mamado... | Nov 15 20:45 | |
| MikeyC | Roy? | Nov 15 20:46 |
| schestowitz | Don't worry, you'll get 1st | Nov 15 20:47 |
| schestowitz | Why? Do you want me to block Sid? | Nov 15 20:47 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Menini & Viani feat Christian Key - Dark Beat (Dub Mix)" ♫ http://blip.fm/~ge5if | Nov 15 20:47 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 27.7 KB | Nov 15 20:48 |
| MikeyC | I think you and SId will be close, so why not tell me your score, why the games? | Nov 15 20:48 |
| MikeyC | it is only a contest you know, there's no need to be secretive. | Nov 15 20:48 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Menini & Viani Feat. Christian Key - Dark Beat ( Criminal Vibes Rmx )" ♫ http://blip.fm/~ge5m8 | Nov 15 20:49 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 27.7 KB | Nov 15 20:50 |
| ThistleWeb | yep those "what are you listening to" posts are annoying | Nov 15 20:51 |
| _goblin | 4082 UIP's to the "killing the foss" article........and rising! | Nov 15 20:52 |
| ThistleWeb | as much a waste of network packets as spam | Nov 15 20:52 |
| _goblin | don't think Ive ever been to blip.fm | Nov 15 20:52 |
| _goblin | ah | Nov 15 20:53 |
| _goblin | and now I have... | Nov 15 20:53 |
| _goblin | what a load of rubbish....agreed Thistleweb what a waste! | Nov 15 20:53 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Alex Gaudino & Jason Rooney - I Love Rock 'N Roll (Dabruck & Klein Video Remix) HQ" ♫ http://blip.fm/~ge5sc | Nov 15 20:53 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 27.7 KB | Nov 15 20:54 |
| schestowitz | MikeyC: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/17/opinion/17krugman.html?_r=1&em | Nov 15 20:54 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The New York Times > Log In .::. Size~: 9.69 KB | Nov 15 20:54 |
| ThistleWeb | I notice some irc clients have a post through from like winamp or other players, I'd never use one out of consideration to other users | Nov 15 20:54 |
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| _goblin | agreed. | Nov 15 20:54 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Só metem gajas boas nestes clips... falta agora saber porque LOL | Nov 15 20:54 | |
| schestowitz | Hold on. | Nov 15 20:55 |
| schestowitz | I'll modify the feed | Nov 15 20:55 |
| _goblin | I sometimes quote what Im listening to since I have quite a few Metal fans who follow and since my music tastes are rare music, its sometimes interesting to them. | Nov 15 20:55 |
| ThistleWeb | it kinda reminds me of the dude who drive around with thumping music playing, it's not for them, it's a "look at me" thing | Nov 15 20:55 |
| _goblin | I can't drive and have music on... | Nov 15 20:56 |
| _goblin | I tend to drive to the music.... | Nov 15 20:56 |
| _goblin | I listen to talk radio..... | Nov 15 20:56 |
| schestowitz | OK, delisted for now | Nov 15 20:58 |
| schestowitz | Cause of the tracks, will revert later | Nov 15 20:58 |
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| schestowitz | _goblin: like reading, much better | Nov 15 20:59 |
| schestowitz | Can watch and listen at the same time, can't read and watch | Nov 15 20:59 |
| schestowitz | MikeyC: 105 minus 2 | Nov 15 20:59 |
| schestowitz | Really cr* | Nov 15 21:00 |
| MikeyC | i was thinking of getting a handheld like yours #roy, can you recommend one? | Nov 15 21:00 |
| schestowitz | MikeyC: http://jsmineset.com/2009/11/14/in-the-news-today-370/ | Nov 15 21:08 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: In The News Today : Welcome To Jim Sinclairs MineSet .::. Size~: 25.35 KB | Nov 15 21:08 |
| schestowitz | MikeyC: yes, but for calendaring? | Nov 15 21:09 |
| schestowitz | Your BlackBerry already does all that | Nov 15 21:09 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NotN: Dating site matches people through E. coli tests http://notnews.today.com/?p=739 | Nov 15 21:09 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Dating site matches people through E. coli tests - News of the News .::. Size~: 35.5 KB | Nov 15 21:10 |
| schestowitz | http://www.businessinsider.com/goldman-sachs-cancels-christmas-2009-11 | Nov 15 21:11 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Goldman Sachs Cancels Christmas (GS) .::. Size~: 83.42 KB | Nov 15 21:11 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] If anyone wants a Google Wave invite Ive got a few left.. | Nov 15 21:16 | |
| _Hicham_ | _goblin : where ? | Nov 15 21:22 |
| _goblin | sorry? | Nov 15 21:23 |
| _goblin | oh, Ive been sent 8 by Google... | Nov 15 21:24 |
| _goblin | appeared earlier today on my wave account | Nov 15 21:24 |
| _Hicham_ | where this is gonna take place ? | Nov 15 21:25 |
| _Hicham_ | in the UK ? | Nov 15 21:25 |
| _goblin | sorry? Im talking about GoogleWave the new product.....currently in beta... | Nov 15 21:25 |
| _Hicham_ | ah, I thought it was an event | Nov 15 21:26 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: if it's that popular, maybe spread it. http://www.linuxtoday.com/contribute.php3 | Nov 15 21:26 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Linux Today - Contribute Story .::. Size~: 36.85 KB | Nov 15 21:26 |
| schestowitz | Wave http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpLLKvDAXNI | Nov 15 21:27 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : I am contributing to schestowitz | Nov 15 21:27 |
| _Hicham_ | new Schestowitz Wave | Nov 15 21:29 |
| schestowitz | http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/kubuntu-9-10.html | Nov 15 21:31 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: I hereby reject your patch. :-) It needs to be relicensed | Nov 15 21:31 |
| schestowitz | No CDDL... not compatible with GPLv6 | Nov 15 21:32 |
| schestowitz | Another Linux device company acquired http://moblinzone.com/blog/769/37/Another_Linux_device_company_acquired | Nov 15 21:32 |
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| schestowitz | Buy CD from CafePress | Nov 15 21:33 |
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| schestowitz | Magnificent Valor | Nov 15 21:34 |
| schestowitz | The Distant Ocean | Nov 15 21:34 |
| schestowitz | Glenn Greenwald | Nov 15 21:34 |
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| schestowitz | Dennis Perrin | Nov 15 21:35 |
| schestowitz | Booman Tribune | Nov 15 21:35 |
| schestowitz | Crooks and Liars | Nov 15 21:35 |
| schestowitz | ConsortiumNews | Nov 15 21:35 |
| schestowitz | The Cyanide Hole | Nov 15 21:35 |
| schestowitz | Eschaton | Nov 15 21:35 |
| schestowitz | John Gorenfeld | Nov 15 21:35 |
| schestowitz | Jesus' General | Nov 15 21:35 |
| schestowitz | Black Agenda Report | Nov 15 21:35 |
| schestowitz | Arvin Hill | Nov 15 21:35 |
| schestowitz | IRIN News | Nov 15 21:35 |
| schestowitz | Orcinus | Nov 15 21:35 |
| schestowitz | Greg Palast | Nov 15 21:35 |
| schestowitz | The Raw Story | Nov 15 21:35 |
| schestowitz | Sadly, No! | Nov 15 21:35 |
| schestowitz | The Smirking Chimp | Nov 15 21:35 |
| schestowitz | This Modern World | Nov 15 21:35 |
| schestowitz | James Wolcott | Nov 15 21:35 |
| schestowitz | William Bowles | Nov 15 21:35 |
| schestowitz | European Tribune | Nov 15 21:35 |
| schestowitz | NYR Blog | Nov 15 21:36 |
| schestowitz | Limited Inc. | Nov 15 21:36 |
| schestowitz | Iraq Vets Against the War | Nov 15 21:36 |
| schestowitz | Bob Harris | Nov 15 21:36 |
| schestowitz | Bright Terrible Spirit | Nov 15 21:36 |
| schestowitz | Archives | Nov 15 21:36 |
| schestowitz | Click here for the Original Empire Burlesque | Nov 15 21:36 |
| schestowitz | January 2005 | Nov 15 21:36 |
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| schestowitz | March 2005 | Nov 15 21:36 |
| schestowitz | April 2005 | Nov 15 21:36 |
| schestowitz | May 2005 | Nov 15 21:36 |
| schestowitz | June 2005 | Nov 15 21:36 |
| schestowitz | July 2005 | Nov 15 21:36 |
| schestowitz | August 2005 | Nov 15 21:36 |
| schestowitz | Systemic Success: Blood Money and Black Gold in Iraq | Nov 15 21:36 |
| schestowitz | Needless to day, my highlight was messed up, so when pasting in this application it just made a mess. Sorry about that. That's embarrassing. It was supposed to be page URL. | Nov 15 21:37 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/15/zuppero_solar_system/ | Nov 15 21:41 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The best mad scientist memoir of the year • The Register .::. Size~: 29.46 KB | Nov 15 21:41 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz is the mad scientist of the year | Nov 15 21:42 |
| schestowitz | I'm not so mad | Nov 15 21:42 |
| schestowitz | But... | Nov 15 21:42 |
| schestowitz | If you stake the average of people's behaviour in the develop world | Nov 15 21:43 |
| schestowitz | And then explore the standard distribution | Nov 15 21:43 |
| schestowitz | Then you see what people are pressured to be like | Nov 15 21:43 |
| schestowitz | It's called a "square" | Nov 15 21:43 |
| _Hicham_ | ur so mad at miguel | Nov 15 21:43 |
| schestowitz | But it's more like a circle... fitting the Gaussian | Nov 15 21:43 |
| schestowitz | I'm not at the centre of such a Guassian | Nov 15 21:43 |
| schestowitz | But I'm not "mad", either. However that's defined in scientific terms | Nov 15 21:43 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : ur in the center/centre of the universe | Nov 15 21:44 |
| schestowitz | I guess mad implies atrophy in one's brain | Nov 15 21:44 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: I'm not mad at Miguel | Nov 15 21:44 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : why do u keep insulting him ? | Nov 15 21:44 |
| schestowitz | Not even at Novell or Microsoft, which would be absurd because they don't exist. They are immaterial entities | Nov 15 21:44 |
| schestowitz | It's like hating "terrorism" | Nov 15 21:44 |
| schestowitz | Or hating "breathing' | Nov 15 21:45 |
| schestowitz | But there are people who work/ed at Microsoft who should be locked up | Nov 15 21:45 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: I don't insult him really. I call him Novell's de Icaza | Nov 15 21:45 |
| schestowitz | That's not insulting | Nov 15 21:45 |
| MinceR | novell and m$ are a set of people who commit crimes together | Nov 15 21:45 |
| schestowitz | He's an impressionable person, just helping some of the bad guys | Nov 15 21:46 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: become rich is not a rich *rolls eyes* | Nov 15 21:46 |
| schestowitz | Intel... | Nov 15 21:46 |
| schestowitz | Let me show you | Nov 15 21:46 |
| schestowitz | Cause I'll do a post tomorrow | Nov 15 21:46 |
| MinceR | did i get Rich Rolled? :> | Nov 15 21:46 |
| schestowitz | 'The site is especially critical of CEO Paul Otellini. A recent post features a cartoon with a cross-eyed Otellini denying using "bribery, coercion and kickback relations" to try to corner the market. The site has a rather humorous disclaimer informing readers that it "is not provided, sponsored or endorsed by Intel Corporation."' | Nov 15 21:46 |
| schestowitz | http://www.dailytech.com/NVIDIA+Uses+Cartoons+to+Harass+Intel/article16733.htm | Nov 15 21:46 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : u should get rich | Nov 15 21:47 |
| schestowitz | I am rich mentally | Nov 15 21:47 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : like Miguel is trying to do | Nov 15 21:47 |
| schestowitz | Miguel Slim | Nov 15 21:47 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : u mush be rich with full pockets too | Nov 15 21:47 |
| schestowitz | !google carlos slim theft | Nov 15 21:47 |
| phIRCe-local | [1] - . Carlos Slim Helú . | http://www.carlosslim.com/preg_resp_fund_inbur_mas_ing.html | Nov 15 21:47 |
| phIRCe-local | [2] - Carlos Slim Saves The New York Times (NYT) | http://www.businessinsider.com/2009/1/slim-saves-sulzberger-but-boy-was-it-expensive-nyt | Nov 15 21:47 |
| phIRCe-local | [3] - NYT Column Called Carlos Slim a Robber Baron - Adages ... | http://adage.com/adages/post%3Farticle_id%3D133893 | Nov 15 21:47 |
| phIRCe-local | [4] - Carlos Slim — Luxist | http://www.luxist.com/tag/carlos%2Bslim/ | Nov 15 21:47 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz is still in love with google | Nov 15 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Better than being in love with a bong | Nov 15 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Watch this guy... http://www.loupiote.com/photos/91450651.shtml | Nov 15 21:49 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: tribe man smoking tobacco with a bamboo pipe - bong - vietnam .::. Size~: 32.86 KB | Nov 15 21:49 |
| schestowitz | He's very happy with Bong | Nov 15 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Though he doesn't look too happy to me | Nov 15 21:49 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : when do u plan to test openSUSE 11.2 ? | Nov 15 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Maybe he didn't get the search results he hoped for | Nov 15 21:49 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: what for? | Nov 15 21:50 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: I'll make you an offer you can't refuse | Nov 15 21:50 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : to decide whether it is advancing or regressing | Nov 15 21:51 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : what is that offer ? | Nov 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | If OpenSUSE (developers/community) escapes Novell, I'll use OpenSUSE for the rest of its life | Nov 15 21:51 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : If i fork it, will u use it ? | Nov 15 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Can you remove the artwork and all? | Nov 15 21:53 |
| schestowitz | Not with SUSE Studio | Nov 15 21:53 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : yes, I will remove the artwork and put ur picture in the wallpaper | Nov 15 21:54 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: you should marry Helena http://www.unixmen.com/news-today/545-linuxmint-8-helena-the-beauty-is-coming | Nov 15 21:55 |
| schestowitz | She does KDE | Nov 15 21:55 |
| schestowitz | And it's probably better than Susie | Nov 15 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Deb-based | Nov 15 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Debbie and Ian | Nov 15 21:55 |
| _Hicham_ | Oh, my Darling SUSE, I love you | Nov 15 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Are you crying again? :-) | Nov 15 21:56 |
| _Hicham_ | I am deeply in LOVE with you | Nov 15 21:56 |
| _Hicham_ | come here and embrace me | Nov 15 21:56 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: we should tell Obama about Hovsepian | Nov 15 21:57 |
| schestowitz | Like they told Bush about Osama | Nov 15 21:57 |
| schestowitz | Maybe he can invade SUSE and liberate it from Novell /sarcasm | Nov 15 21:57 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz is gonna do djihed against Novell | Nov 15 21:58 |
| _Hicham_ | he is gonna invade its headquarters and kill hovespian and miguel | Nov 15 21:59 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: maybe you can legally marry your distro after all. Right after divorcing from your mug, which you married for wefare and companionship | Nov 15 21:59 |
| _Hicham_ | come here traitors, come and face me | Nov 15 21:59 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: what the heck are you talking about? | Nov 15 21:59 |
| _Hicham_ | u gonna do a great warrior schestowitz | Nov 15 21:59 |
| schestowitz | You're mad... | Nov 15 21:59 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : about ur new battle | Nov 15 22:00 |
| schestowitz | No, no.. | Nov 15 22:00 |
| schestowitz | I think its something else. You should do comedy | Nov 15 22:00 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : I am gonna give u some weapons | Nov 15 22:00 |
| schestowitz | You give a mental burden | Nov 15 22:01 |
| schestowitz | It's not even funny anymoe | Nov 15 22:01 |
| schestowitz | So just marry SUSE and be done with it | Nov 15 22:01 |
| schestowitz | Anyway...we talked about Intel | Nov 15 22:02 |
| schestowitz | Just before you trolled me with: "[21:48] <_Hicham_> schestowitz is still in love with google" | Nov 15 22:02 |
| schestowitz | Intel should be embargoed in the EU | Nov 15 22:02 |
| schestowitz | It's easy to replace | Nov 15 22:02 |
| schestowitz | Swap one x86 with another | Nov 15 22:02 |
| schestowitz | Intel lost its right to do business and it's time to do time | Nov 15 22:02 |
| PetoKraus | mm guys | Nov 15 22:03 |
| PetoKraus | if you go here: http://www.doubleedgefilms.com/ | Nov 15 22:03 |
| PetoKraus | and click "support INK" | Nov 15 22:03 |
| schestowitz | A society where law is no longer enforced is anarchy.. and companies like Intel make anarchy | Nov 15 22:03 |
| PetoKraus | does anything happen? | Nov 15 22:03 |
| schestowitz | Without market/competition rules obeyed, it's chaos and no progress | Nov 15 22:03 |
| PetoKraus | i'm wondering whether it's a flash problem, or ffx3.5.5 problem | Nov 15 22:03 |
| schestowitz | Medieval markets | Nov 15 22:03 |
| schestowitz | WTF? | Nov 15 22:04 |
| schestowitz | A whole site just in 010101000101010101010 | Nov 15 22:04 |
| schestowitz | PetoKraus: it opens this: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=9550838 | Nov 15 22:04 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Online Payment, Merchant Account - PayPal .::. Size~: 9.35 KB | Nov 15 22:05 |
| schestowitz | Maybe you blocked new window-opening? | Nov 15 22:05 |
| schestowitz | PetoKraus supports artists, not the agents who exploit them. Direct payment to _artists_ | Nov 15 22:06 |
| schestowitz | New: Labels may be losing money, but artists are making more than ever http://www.boingboing.net/2009/11/13/labels-may-be-losing.html | Nov 15 22:06 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Labels may be losing money, but artists are making more than ever - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 99.85 KB | Nov 15 22:06 |
| MinceR | you're confusing oligarchy with anarchy | Nov 15 22:07 |
| _Hicham_ | vive schestowitz , our lead warrior | Nov 15 22:07 |
| _Hicham_ | the Novell and Microsoft killer | Nov 15 22:07 |
| PetoKraus | schestowitz, doesn't work here | Nov 15 22:07 |
| PetoKraus | amd64? | Nov 15 22:07 |
| _Hicham_ | he is gonna kill all the world | Nov 15 22:07 |
| _Hicham_ | PetoKraus should support schestowitz | Nov 15 22:08 |
| PetoKraus | ;) | Nov 15 22:08 |
| _Hicham_ | http://www.donate-to-schestowitz.com | Nov 15 22:08 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Error processing the URL: .::. Size~: 0 KB | Nov 15 22:08 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : as i said , i am gonna donate some weapons to u | Nov 15 22:08 |
| _Hicham_ | so that the killing will be easier | Nov 15 22:09 |
| schestowitz | http://jjinux.blogspot.com/2009/11/linux-minimizing-memory-usage.html | Nov 15 22:10 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: JJinuxLand: Linux: Minimizing Memory Usage .::. Size~: 98.98 KB | Nov 15 22:10 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz minimizing Novell's profit | Nov 15 22:10 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: did you smoke today? | Nov 15 22:11 |
| schestowitz | Major fix released for Ubuntu :-) Installing KDE 4.3.2 on Ubuntu < http://www.ghacks.net/2009/11/15/installing-kde-4-3-2-on-ubuntu/ | Nov 15 22:11 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Installing KDE 4.3.2 on Ubuntu .::. Size~: 42.16 KB | Nov 15 22:11 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : no | Nov 15 22:12 |
| MinceR | what's with all that PPA magic? kubuntu-desktop is already available in the ubuntu repos | Nov 15 22:13 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_ commits thought crimes :0) | Nov 15 22:14 |
| MinceR | also, why use compiz with kde4 if there's kwin with a lot less bugs? | Nov 15 22:14 |
| schestowitz | Yeah. | Nov 15 22:14 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : I d like to go fight Novell with a real warrior like u | Nov 15 22:15 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : I count on u | Nov 15 22:15 |
| schestowitz | it's not a fight | Nov 15 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Pressure for reform | Nov 15 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Why do you embarrass me in IRC with banter, _Hicham_? | Nov 15 22:20 |
| schestowitz | It's not fruitful. | Nov 15 22:20 |
| schestowitz | You feed he trolls who stalk IRC... to throw rotten tomatoes | Nov 15 22:21 |
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| PetoKraus | hmm something must be wrong here | Nov 15 22:30 |
| PetoKraus | disabled noscript and adblock | Nov 15 22:30 |
| PetoKraus | and still doesn't work | Nov 15 22:30 |
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| PetoKraus | seems to be flash64b problem | Nov 15 22:34 |
| PetoKraus | it doesn't work even with wiped ~/.mozilla | Nov 15 22:35 |
| schestowitz | Proabbly | Nov 15 22:36 |
| schestowitz | I use Flash 10 here (sorry, no gnash yet) | Nov 15 22:36 |
| PetoKraus | me too | Nov 15 22:36 |
| schestowitz | new: http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-10396326-245.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20 | Nov 15 22:37 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] DW/LJ: 1999. http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/20446.html http://reddragdiva.livejournal.com/534105.html | Nov 15 22:37 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] How do you report a spammer in identi.ca? http://identi.ca/forextradingadv | Nov 15 22:43 | |
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| _Hicham_ | schestowitz promotes flash | Nov 15 22:46 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz is against gnash | Nov 15 22:46 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz is hurting FOSS movement then | Nov 15 22:46 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] http://identi.ca/forextradingadv is spamming several groups | Nov 15 22:48 | |
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| Azalyn | lawl, i can't believe there's actually a channel for this. | Nov 15 22:50 |
| _Hicham_ | swfdec is still better than gnash | Nov 15 22:52 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] !spamreport @forextradingadv http://identi.ca/user/89885 | Nov 15 22:52 | |
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| _Hicham_ | pkill -9 miguel | Nov 15 23:02 |
| _Hicham_ | pkill -9 hovespian | Nov 15 23:02 |
| _Hicham_ | pkill -9 ballmer | Nov 15 23:03 |
| ender2070 | lol | Nov 15 23:03 |
| ender2070 | SFLC uses adobe flash | Nov 15 23:03 |
| _Hicham_ | who is SFLC ? | Nov 15 23:05 |
| ender2070 | software freedom law center | Nov 15 23:05 |
| ender2070 | the guys who enforce the GPL every day | Nov 15 23:05 |
| ender2070 | one guy who works there mentioned trying to convert his co workers to gnash | Nov 15 23:06 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Osyw7_00MM :-D | Nov 15 23:07 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: no harm done. | Nov 15 23:08 |
| schestowitz | RMS is very insistent though | Nov 15 23:08 |
| _Hicham_ | well, no, there is a lot of harm | Nov 15 23:08 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz is helping adobe | Nov 15 23:09 |
| ender2070 | i would never recommend proprietary software to anyone | Nov 15 23:09 |
| ender2070 | i might use it out of lack of choice, but i wont subject others | Nov 15 23:09 |
| _Hicham_ | swfdec seems to be a good alternative | Nov 15 23:09 |
| ender2070 | if I had time, i'd help the gnash guys | Nov 15 23:10 |
| ender2070 | nouveu is higher priority however | Nov 15 23:10 |
| ender2070 | I need a free software driver that doesnt melt my notebook via lack of fan control | Nov 15 23:11 |
| _Hicham_ | ender2070 : what about nv ? | Nov 15 23:12 |
| _Hicham_ | ****************************** downloading schestowitz.exe ********************************** | Nov 15 23:15 |
| ender2070 | nouveau replaced it iirc | Nov 15 23:16 |
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| _Hicham_ | http://www.schestowitzschestowitz.com | Nov 15 23:35 |
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| _Hicham_ | schestowitz is silent | Nov 15 23:52 |
| _Hicham_ | weird | Nov 15 23:52 |
| _Hicham_ | very very very weird | Nov 15 23:52 |
| Azalyn | you know, i don't think novell is actually evil. i think they're just stupid. | Nov 15 23:53 |
| Azalyn | misguided i suppose, they thought this deal with microsoft would be a good idea at the time, but they didn't consider the wider ramafications. they should've called microsoft's bluff. | Nov 15 23:54 |
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