| schestowitz | http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/11/26/1553227/Programmable-Quantum-Computer-Created | Nov 27 00:00 |
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| oiaohm | Define small Quantium entanglement effects can so far be a unlimited distance apart schestowitz | Nov 27 00:01 |
| oiaohm | Small from our prespective. | Nov 27 00:01 |
| oiaohm | But the effect to world could still be quite large. | Nov 27 00:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/26/lse_crash_again/ Funny comments | Nov 27 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: it's very strange | Nov 27 00:02 |
| schestowitz | Counter intuitive for realm of the visible | Nov 27 00:02 |
| schestowitz | For instance | Nov 27 00:02 |
| schestowitz | The orbit of the electron cannot be changed discretely | Nov 27 00:03 |
| oiaohm | accurately 79 percent is more correct than most of the circuits in the human brain. | Nov 27 00:03 |
| schestowitz | There are only particular routes it can take | Nov 27 00:03 |
| schestowitz | And the surface of atoms was visualise by some IBM guy.... | Nov 27 00:03 |
| oiaohm | Human brain solve the issue by processing stuff multi times. | Nov 27 00:03 |
| schestowitz | The atom was first split here in Manchester | Nov 27 00:03 |
| schestowitz | There's also the issue of photon movement, light, and causality | Nov 27 00:04 |
| schestowitz | You cannot determine where they are located | Nov 27 00:04 |
| schestowitz | Very counter intuitive | Nov 27 00:04 |
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| schestowitz | And by shrinking an aperture you may see the projection actually expanding because photon movement is whacky | Nov 27 00:04 |
| oiaohm | Yep the counter intuitive stuff down there is annoying. | Nov 27 00:04 |
| oiaohm | Even worse you observe what is up to and it magically follows the rules of intuitive | Nov 27 00:05 |
| schestowitz | I think it was Richard Feinman who said, "if you think you understand quantium mechanics, you don't understand quantium mechanics" | Nov 27 00:05 |
| schestowitz | And you have to measure things to the accuracy of a width of a hair when dealing with distances are sparse as... well, continents | Nov 27 00:05 |
| oiaohm | Quantium mechanics seams to be a joke of god. | Nov 27 00:06 |
| schestowitz | What about dark matter? | Nov 27 00:06 |
| oiaohm | ie hide and seek game. | Nov 27 00:06 |
| schestowitz | We don't know what it is | Nov 27 00:06 |
| schestowitz | There's 500% more in universe mass that's out there and can't be accounted for | Nov 27 00:06 |
| oiaohm | Define dark matter. | Nov 27 00:06 |
| schestowitz | That's where the theories of parallel universes (curved) come from | Nov 27 00:06 |
| schestowitz | And we don't know what happens inside black holes | Nov 27 00:06 |
| oiaohm | Like 50 percent of our solar system would not be see able from range. | Nov 27 00:07 |
| _goblin | big crunch.... | Nov 27 00:07 |
| oiaohm | Ie small rocks. | Nov 27 00:07 |
| _goblin | inside blackholes... | Nov 27 00:07 |
| schestowitz | Tyson wrote some book about it, but it's till sort of an unknown, not resolved | Nov 27 00:07 |
| schestowitz | Time travel to | Nov 27 00:07 |
| schestowitz | *Too | Nov 27 00:07 |
| oiaohm | Dark matter could be just normal rocks schestowitz | Nov 27 00:07 |
| oiaohm | Just not very light refective. | Nov 27 00:07 |
| schestowitz | Pulsars and quasars are also not understood | Nov 27 00:08 |
| oiaohm | So almost impossiable to find. | Nov 27 00:08 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: there is no "inside" | Nov 27 00:08 |
| _goblin | true...but then the blackhole creates a "tunnel" of matter does it not.... | Nov 27 00:08 |
| schestowitz | That's a theory | Nov 27 00:08 |
| _goblin | so inside would be there. | Nov 27 00:08 |
| oiaohm | The interesting thing about black holes is they are releasing pulses of electromagnics. | Nov 27 00:09 |
| schestowitz | And you couldn't test it | Nov 27 00:09 |
| _goblin | I also like the RD theory of balancing Blackholes with whiteholes.... | Nov 27 00:09 |
| schestowitz | No nearby black holes or testimony from someone falling into it (spaghettification) | Nov 27 00:09 |
| oiaohm | Worse case is there is nothing inside a black hole other than a big heave partical destorier. | Nov 27 00:09 |
| oiaohm | So releasing power. | Nov 27 00:09 |
| _goblin | Mr Hawkins I believe.....roy.. | Nov 27 00:09 |
| schestowitz | He's cool. | Nov 27 00:10 |
| _goblin | read his brief history of time... | Nov 27 00:10 |
| _goblin | I say read.... | Nov 27 00:10 |
| schestowitz | He became famous because of one book | Nov 27 00:10 |
| oiaohm | We hope there is no near by black holes schestowitz | Nov 27 00:10 |
| schestowitz | And his appearance helps too, IMHO | Nov 27 00:10 |
| oiaohm | Black holes don't have to be that huge schestowitz | Nov 27 00:10 |
| schestowitz | There's no evidence of something getting sucked around here | Nov 27 00:11 |
| oiaohm | A small black hole would take a few million years to eat earth schestowitz | Nov 27 00:11 |
| schestowitz | Not since observatories were made standard anyway | Nov 27 00:11 |
| _goblin | no but the rotation of solar systems/galaxys suggests that something is acting on us all.... | Nov 27 00:12 |
| oiaohm | Finding something that small as a black hole would be very hard. | Nov 27 00:12 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: we need to have more animals here then. Black holes are vegetarian ;-) | Nov 27 00:12 |
| _goblin | does not the singularity grow as more matter is sucked into it (in theory) | Nov 27 00:12 |
| oiaohm | No black holes are omnivorous. | Nov 27 00:12 |
| _goblin | then really the size of a blackhole is irrelevant? | Nov 27 00:13 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/26/iphone_afghanistan/ | Nov 27 00:13 |
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| oiaohm | core of a black hole is a singulatarity _goblin | Nov 27 00:13 |
| oiaohm | More mass making up the singulatarity the more risky it is. | Nov 27 00:14 |
| _goblin | unless its not.....since the theory states its inescapable could it not be possilbe that the black hole is a little like a plug hole and that with the universal constant of + and - there would be a whitehole that spits the matter back into the universe at another point. | Nov 27 00:15 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/26/australian_dolphin_patrol/ | Nov 27 00:15 |
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| schestowitz | _goblin: which universe? | Nov 27 00:16 |
| schestowitz | There might be more than one | Nov 27 00:16 |
| _goblin | any.... | Nov 27 00:16 |
| _goblin | ? | Nov 27 00:16 |
| oiaohm | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN-qe5nwiY0 | Nov 27 00:17 |
| _goblin | I am a believer in the creation of the universe through a temporal causality loop. | Nov 27 00:17 |
| _goblin | since it explains god very nicely | Nov 27 00:17 |
| _goblin | and also answers the question what came before the big bang. | Nov 27 00:17 |
| schestowitz | Just one god? | Nov 27 00:17 |
| schestowitz | Whose god? | Nov 27 00:17 |
| schestowitz | And who created God? | Nov 27 00:18 |
| _goblin | no god... | Nov 27 00:18 |
| _goblin | Mankind is effectively god. | Nov 27 00:18 |
| schestowitz | Naaa.. | Nov 27 00:18 |
| schestowitz | We're tiny | Nov 27 00:18 |
| _goblin | imagine this..... | Nov 27 00:18 |
| schestowitz | We roam a tiny planet in the side of the universe at the side of some galaxy | Nov 27 00:18 |
| schestowitz | http://whatwillweuse.com/2009/11/26/happy-thanksgiving-everyone/ | Nov 27 00:18 |
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| schestowitz | _goblin: got turkey? :-) | Nov 27 00:19 |
| schestowitz | I had a conversation today about confusion that "America" celebrates it today | Nov 27 00:19 |
| oiaohm | What would be more scary is if we are just a small part of god and god is just that our brains have a mesh network we have forgot how to use. | Nov 27 00:19 |
| schestowitz | I don't even use words like "God" | Nov 27 00:20 |
| _goblin | at some point in the far future we find out there was no big bang....no creation of the universe. The scientists create a big bang in the past to create themselves in the future. If time works in the way we believe a temporal causality loop could enable the big bang to happen and us to be creators of ourselves... | Nov 27 00:20 |
| _goblin | mad I know....I read a book on it once... | Nov 27 00:20 |
| schestowitz | They imply existence of something that needs to then be "debunked" | Nov 27 00:20 |
| schestowitz | _goblin, oiaohm: do you believe in h3j23h32? | Nov 27 00:20 |
| _goblin | what on earth is that? | Nov 27 00:20 |
| schestowitz | You don't know? | Nov 27 00:21 |
| _goblin | nope | Nov 27 00:21 |
| schestowitz | It created everything | Nov 27 00:21 |
| _goblin | ah... | Nov 27 00:21 |
| schestowitz | That's the secret of the universe | Nov 27 00:21 |
| schestowitz | And you can try to prove otherwise | Nov 27 00:21 |
| _goblin | who oiaohm or h3k23h32? | Nov 27 00:21 |
| schestowitz | here's a clue: | Nov 27 00:21 |
| schestowitz | 32ik32mfp44n34n^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H4-4n4 | Nov 27 00:21 |
| _goblin | that doesnt help much....i'll google | Nov 27 00:22 |
| schestowitz | OK | Nov 27 00:22 |
| schestowitz | If you can't find anything, then I'm right :-p | Nov 27 00:22 |
| _goblin | lol | Nov 27 00:22 |
| _goblin | Ill try bing... | Nov 27 00:22 |
| _goblin | ;) | Nov 27 00:22 |
| schestowitz | The book from man who invented wheel said so | Nov 27 00:22 |
| schestowitz | Bong will try to sell you a Microsoft product | Nov 27 00:22 |
| schestowitz | It's not a serch engine | Nov 27 00:22 |
| schestowitz | It's a sale engine | Nov 27 00:23 |
| _goblin | not even Bing could turn it into a MS sales pitch.... | Nov 27 00:23 |
| _goblin | you must be right. | Nov 27 00:23 |
| schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/11/25/what-twitterers-are-thankful-for | Nov 27 00:23 |
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| schestowitz | _goblin: Bong is dead | Nov 27 00:23 |
| schestowitz | Like "Microsoft is dead" --Paul Graham | Nov 27 00:23 |
| schestowitz | It's dead in the sense that it's stuck nowhere | Nov 27 00:23 |
| oiaohm | Problem is I have see the h3j23h32 somewhere. Might have been in a serial number of something I have. | Nov 27 00:24 |
| schestowitz | $100,000,000 in brainwash gave it some initial momentum | Nov 27 00:24 |
| _goblin | or the quantum singularity of search.....whatever you put in, nothing comes out. | Nov 27 00:24 |
| schestowitz | And now it's kaput | Nov 27 00:24 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft' CFO quit | Nov 27 00:24 |
| schestowitz | Maybe he too realise that just blowing $100,000,000 for nothing is Road to Bankruptcy | Nov 27 00:24 |
| schestowitz | What's that Texas oil company that suddenly went bankrupt in 2003? | Nov 27 00:25 |
| schestowitz | Many US businesses operate in debt | Nov 27 00:25 |
| schestowitz | "Investors" | Nov 27 00:25 |
| schestowitz | Lenders | Nov 27 00:25 |
| schestowitz | Scaling up based on promise of the future, which is a cyclic thing like derivatives | Nov 27 00:25 |
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| oiaohm | Dubi ending a load will have knock on effects. | Nov 27 00:25 |
| oiaohm | load/lown. | Nov 27 00:25 |
| schestowitz | What are you really worth is your worth is something that depends on the future, which is turns depends on the present that depends on the future................ | Nov 27 00:26 |
| schestowitz | /is/if/ | Nov 27 00:26 |
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| schestowitz | *in turn | Nov 27 00:26 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: Dubai? | Nov 27 00:26 |
| schestowitz | Dubya? | Nov 27 00:26 |
| schestowitz | lawn or loan? | Nov 27 00:27 |
| oiaohm | loan | Nov 27 00:27 |
| schestowitz | China won't borrow money anymore | Nov 27 00:27 |
| schestowitz | They want material | Nov 27 00:27 |
| schestowitz | Cash for clunkers | Nov 27 00:27 |
| oiaohm | Dubia | Nov 27 00:27 |
| oiaohm | Bugger | Nov 27 00:27 |
| schestowitz | I learned from a not-most-reliable source that it's used to give the Chinese metals in exchange for some more lifeline | Nov 27 00:27 |
| oiaohm | Not my day. | Nov 27 00:27 |
| schestowitz | Does Dubya have many relations in Dubai like he does in Saudi Arabia? | Nov 27 00:28 |
| oiaohm | loans are going to be kept on being called in. | Nov 27 00:28 |
| oiaohm | The effect of the you know what mess. | Nov 27 00:28 |
| schestowitz | The second oil supplier, Iraq, is now a US colony. They might not depend as much on Saudis then... | Nov 27 00:28 |
| schestowitz | Not until they empty Iraq also | Nov 27 00:29 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes | Nov 27 00:29 |
| schestowitz | And value of the dollar | Nov 27 00:29 |
| oiaohm | http://blog.reprap.org/ << Really oil might not be important read the first entry. | Nov 27 00:29 |
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| schestowitz | If/when the dollar crumbles in value, then market cap in the US goes boom! | Nov 27 00:29 |
| schestowitz | Then China can come sweeping | Nov 27 00:29 |
| oiaohm | then there have been break threw in producing h2 from water using solar. | Nov 27 00:30 |
| _goblin | Schestowitz: We've appeared in another Twitter list! | Nov 27 00:30 |
| _goblin | http://twitter.com/lordtoran/important-oss-supporters | Nov 27 00:31 |
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| oiaohm | Basically techs to break the depend on oil are coming. | Nov 27 00:31 |
| _goblin | Very nice to be mentioned, but Im not important! | Nov 27 00:31 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: http://www.twit.tv/floss92 | Nov 27 00:31 |
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| oiaohm | I like the raprep new design better. its closer to what I know a 3 axis CNC machine. | Nov 27 00:32 |
| schestowitz | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9141430/Meow_IBM_cat_brain_simulation_dissed_as_hoax_by_rival_scientist?source=rss_news | Nov 27 00:33 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: it still needs raw material | Nov 27 00:33 |
| schestowitz | What I don't like is how they try to make it seem like sci-fi stuff | Nov 27 00:33 |
| schestowitz | Like replicators in Starship Enterprise | Nov 27 00:34 |
| schestowitz | It's a 3-d printer | Nov 27 00:34 |
| oiaohm | Long term goal is to cover getting the materials. | Nov 27 00:34 |
| schestowitz | Many others like it | Nov 27 00:34 |
| schestowitz | The software on the desktop side runs on Ubuntu GNU/Linux | Nov 27 00:34 |
| schestowitz | In Standford, scientists recently managed to change atoms | Nov 27 00:34 |
| schestowitz | Just 2 atoms though | Nov 27 00:34 |
| oiaohm | Most 3d printers cannot produce themselves instead depend on lazer cutters and the like to make frame schestowitz | Nov 27 00:34 |
| schestowitz | And lots of weeks or hard work and energt | Nov 27 00:35 |
| oiaohm | Mind you I would like a hybred design part way between lazer cut and self remaking. | Nov 27 00:35 |
| oiaohm | ie parts from either to built the first one. | Nov 27 00:36 |
| schestowitz | It's fantasy | Nov 27 00:37 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Airplane with wheels. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8381488.stm Do we really need these anymore? | Nov 27 00:37 | |
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| schestowitz | Ah.... get your dose of shopping ecstasy without leaving the house.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/technology/newsid_10000000/newsid_10003100/10003154.stm | Nov 27 00:38 |
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| oiaohm | http://www.research.ibm.com/atomic/nano/roomtemp.html << schestowitz | Nov 27 00:38 |
| oiaohm | Yes its possable to move single attoms around. | Nov 27 00:38 |
| oiaohm | IBM at one point had made the worlds smallest corporate logo. I think they have been beant for that title recently. | Nov 27 00:42 |
| schestowitz | http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/11/26/palm-pre-users-suffer-cloud-computing-data-loss/ "Cloud Computing: Definition – Pay someone else to lose your data :(" | Nov 27 00:49 |
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| schestowitz | IBM''s Wladawsky-Berger: http://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2009/11/the-mit-distributed-leadership-forum.html | Nov 27 00:51 |
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| schestowitz | Hmmmmm. ... I see that IBM's Chris Ward comment there too. he's in IBM research... mailed me quite a few times | Nov 27 00:52 |
| schestowitz | http://www.cringely.com/2009/11/tossed-in-space/ "Just in case you are an astronaut and need something to worry about, according to NASA there are 18,000 pieces of space junk the size of a basketball or larger right now orbiting the earth. That’s 18,000 chances to slam into the International Space Station (ISS)" | Nov 27 00:53 |
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| schestowitz | "The biggest news was simply that Google was finally taking Microsoft head-on. The rest of the news, at least to me, was that Microsoft should be worried, very worried." http://www.cringely.com/2009/11/chrome-and-chrome-what-is-chrome/ | Nov 27 00:58 |
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| cubezzz | meh. I want to see Linux in the stores more | Nov 27 01:03 |
| schestowitz | They need kickbacks | Nov 27 01:10 |
| schestowitz | Google will give kickbacks | Nov 27 01:10 |
| schestowitz | And subsidize Chrome OS locked down (maybe DRMed) machines with Ubuntu and full-screen browser | Nov 27 01:10 |
| *schestowitz gives channel operator status to _goblin | Nov 27 01:10 | |
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| _goblin | lol... | Nov 27 01:11 |
| _goblin | thanks, but FYI I'll be off shortly... | Nov 27 01:11 |
| _goblin | cubezzz for op? | Nov 27 01:11 |
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| cubezzz | eh? | Nov 27 01:14 |
| cubezzz | sure why not :) | Nov 27 01:14 |
| oiaohm | God cringely is off. | Nov 27 01:16 |
| oiaohm | If you read google own docs on chrome google purely has no goal of chrome have a app store. | Nov 27 01:17 |
| cubezzz | maybe Google can cut some deals | Nov 27 01:17 |
| oiaohm | Google wants people online for ad revenue. | Nov 27 01:17 |
| oiaohm | Giving them local apps don't help them. | Nov 27 01:18 |
| oiaohm | closest thing to a local app on chrome OS will be browser plugins | Nov 27 01:19 |
| oiaohm | Lot of closed source companies hope google will cut some deals cubezzz | Nov 27 01:21 |
| oiaohm | Its a little hard to keep you program secret if you have to deliver it over the net every time user wishs to use it. | Nov 27 01:21 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Presenting... http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1563577/samsung-sell-watchphone-ireland watchphone. Microsoft SPOT, anyone? It died. | Nov 27 01:24 | |
| schestowitz | People don't want to hold their hand to their face have this thing strapped to their wrist | Nov 27 01:24 |
| cubezzz | I just want driver code | Nov 27 01:25 |
| cubezzz | making more and more progress in that direction | Nov 27 01:32 |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, some of the Sony TVs use ncurses :) | Nov 27 01:33 |
| cubezzz | my TV uses busybox, so I should be able to get a bash prompt | Nov 27 01:34 |
| schestowitz | Heh. | Nov 27 01:36 |
| schestowitz | What res? | Nov 27 01:36 |
| cubezzz | I haven't figured out how to get in there yet | Nov 27 01:36 |
| cubezzz | umm | Nov 27 01:36 |
| cubezzz | 1920x1080 I think | Nov 27 01:37 |
| cubezzz | it's a 1080p TV so it's pretty good | Nov 27 01:37 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Nov 27 01:41 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hi | Nov 27 01:42 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: hi | Nov 27 01:42 |
| cubezzz | did you watch that discovery channel show on history of the internet? | Nov 27 01:44 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/nov/23/chilcot-inquiry-iraq-war | Nov 27 01:46 |
| schestowitz | hey, sebsebseb | Nov 27 01:47 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: haven't, no | Nov 27 01:47 |
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| cubezzz | internet via antenna... hmmm | Nov 27 01:54 |
| schestowitz | Hmmmmmm... that's quite a professional-looking magazine.. http://www.opensourc3.org/ | Nov 27 01:55 |
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| cubezzz | power consumption: 220 watts | Nov 27 01:59 |
| cubezzz | sounds like a lot doesn't it | Nov 27 02:00 |
| cubezzz | service mode on this thing is quite complex | Nov 27 02:01 |
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| cubezzz | pwned :) | Nov 27 02:02 |
| schestowitz | http://biodegradablegeek.com/2009/11/what-firefoxs-memory-leak-feature-taught-me-about-life/ So true | Nov 27 02:05 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I installed | Nov 27 02:06 |
| sebsebseb | Mandriva 2010 Gnome | Nov 27 02:06 |
| sebsebseb | and got rid of Ubuntu 9.10 when doing that | Nov 27 02:06 |
| sebsebseb | :) | Nov 27 02:06 |
| sebsebseb | trying to find out how to get it to use my seperate /home properly and those settings | Nov 27 02:06 |
| schestowitz | What's w/ the avatar in the first comment? http://tech.icrontic.com/news/mozilla-adds-hardware-acceleration-to-firefox-3-7/ | Nov 27 02:07 |
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| schestowitz | sebsebseb: no kde4? | Nov 27 02:07 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well I installed Konversation a while ago, and whatever it wanted to put on with that | Nov 27 02:08 |
| sebsebseb | so other then that no at the moment | Nov 27 02:08 |
| sebsebseb | I also tried to vm Mandriva 2010 KDE 4 in Ubuntu 9.10 the other day, but had an issue with Virtaulbox | Nov 27 02:08 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: can't even change my Gnome panels at the moment | Nov 27 02:12 |
| sebsebseb | how to get it to use my seperate /home properly? | Nov 27 02:12 |
| schestowitz | Wish I could help...... | Nov 27 02:19 |
| schestowitz | Some spammer overflooded one of my wikis today | Nov 27 02:20 |
| schestowitz | 25MB is junk in it | Nov 27 02:20 |
| schestowitz | Got E-mail warning as they almost drained the qccount's quota | Nov 27 02:20 |
| schestowitz | bastards! | Nov 27 02:20 |
| schestowitz | ANd I pay extra cause it it | Nov 27 02:20 |
| schestowitz | /end rant | Nov 27 02:20 |
| *schestowitz watches Laura Nader - When the Rule of Law is Illegal < http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfdfhACuhjk > | Nov 27 02:35 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[tracyrreed] Dining at Mr. A's for Thanksgiving this year. Nice view. | Nov 27 02:45 | |
| schestowitz | Hehe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02zpXmFEUaY&NR=1&feature=fvwp | Nov 27 02:59 |
| schestowitz | Another goodie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM3iWlTiEGc | Nov 27 03:02 |
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| cubezzz | Tvs are really just a computer | Nov 27 03:22 |
| cubezzz | it's got ifconfig features | Nov 27 03:22 |
| cubezzz | mine's got 128 megs of ram :) | Nov 27 03:23 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=11987734 | Nov 27 03:23 |
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| DaemonFC | gonna get one of these tomorrow | Nov 27 03:24 |
| cubezzz | yes, but does it run Linux? :) | Nov 27 03:24 |
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| DaemonFC | it's $248 | Nov 27 03:24 |
| DaemonFC | who cares? :P | Nov 27 03:25 |
| schestowitz | What's the catch? | Nov 27 03:26 |
| DaemonFC | Black Friday Sale | Nov 27 03:26 |
| DaemonFC | may get trampled | Nov 27 03:26 |
| DaemonFC | light a candle for me | Nov 27 03:26 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Nov 27 03:26 |
| schestowitz | [Other than exploitation of CHinese workers] | Nov 27 03:26 |
| cubezzz | I need a laptop with DVI or HDMI | Nov 27 03:27 |
| schestowitz | If luck be a lady, then you'll have another seizure and punch people all over the place | Nov 27 03:27 |
| cubezzz | then I can have a huge-ass monitor :) | Nov 27 03:27 |
| schestowitz | What's a huge monitor good for? | Nov 27 03:27 |
| schestowitz | beyond having a crowd watching.... | Nov 27 03:27 |
| schestowitz | And the vanity factor | Nov 27 03:27 |
| schestowitz | Large screens become illegal here | Nov 27 03:28 |
| schestowitz | And plasma too | Nov 27 03:28 |
| cubezzz | illegal? | Nov 27 03:28 |
| DaemonFC | 32" isn't large | Nov 27 03:28 |
| schestowitz | Energy-guzzling junk... like HUMMER | Nov 27 03:28 |
| cubezzz | 220 watts, yeah | Nov 27 03:28 |
| DaemonFC | TVs go up to 80" I think | Nov 27 03:28 |
| schestowitz | No, some bigger | Nov 27 03:28 |
| DaemonFC | biggest I've seen | Nov 27 03:28 |
| schestowitz | One man watching a 60'' set is like a man driving a semi-trailer to get bakc home | Nov 27 03:28 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: use projectors | Nov 27 03:29 |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, the obvious use it's using the laptop as a storage device and the TV as a display for movies stored on the laptop | Nov 27 03:29 |
| cubezzz | then I can use mkv | Nov 27 03:29 |
| schestowitz | ok, gn anyway | Nov 27 03:30 |
| schestowitz | 3am here | Nov 27 03:30 |
| cubezzz | nite | Nov 27 03:30 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: 26" is the next bump down and a lot of them are more expensive than this 32" | Nov 27 03:31 |
| DaemonFC | I guess I could watch a 19" set with some binoculars *shrugs* | Nov 27 03:32 |
| cubezzz | I'm quite happy with antenna now | Nov 27 03:33 |
| cubezzz | 1080i on a number of stations | Nov 27 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, you also don't live where I live I guess | Nov 27 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | 2-3 channels over the air if you're lucky | Nov 27 03:35 |
| cubezzz | where are you? | Nov 27 03:35 |
| DaemonFC | if all I wanted was some basic TV with 6-8 channels, I could either put an antenna on my roof and amplify the signal | Nov 27 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | or pay Comcast $20 a month for basic cable | Nov 27 03:36 |
| cubezzz | I get 31 stations FTA | Nov 27 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | the least you can order from Comcast with anything you would want to watch is their $40 a month plan | Nov 27 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | ($30 if you have their internet service) | Nov 27 03:37 |
| cubezzz | Toronto, Hamilton, Burlington, Buffalo, Oshawa | Nov 27 03:37 |
| cubezzz | I must be in a good location | Nov 27 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | the internet takes about $10 a month off your TV, and the TV takes about $13 a month off your internet | Nov 27 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | if you drop one, the price for the other one goes up | Nov 27 03:38 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz just strikes me as a C-SPAN kind of guy | Nov 27 03:38 |
| DaemonFC | can't get enough C-SPAN | Nov 27 03:38 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz is why they made a C-SPAN 2 | Nov 27 03:39 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz would love Aero because with side-by-side, he could easily watch both at once | Nov 27 03:40 |
| cubezzz | he doesn't care too much about TV, he's got 100mb internet | Nov 27 03:40 |
| cubezzz | not to mention he's in the UK :) | Nov 27 03:40 |
| cubezzz | can you get C-SPAN in the UK? | Nov 27 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | or whatever they have there | Nov 27 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | and I'm sure you can | Nov 27 03:40 |
| cubezzz | with satellite maybe | Nov 27 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | you can get CNN, Faux Noise, and MSNBC | Nov 27 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | why not C-SPAN? | Nov 27 03:41 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RD: @koolhead17: EID Mubarek to all my friends!! | Nov 27 03:41 | |
| cubezzz | yeah you can get it over the net | Nov 27 03:42 |
| cubezzz | easy | Nov 27 03:42 |
| cubezzz | just like you could probably get cbc or tvo in the U.S. | Nov 27 03:43 |
| cubezzz | I like hacking into stuff myself | Nov 27 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: CBC blocked the Olympics outside of Canada | Nov 27 03:45 |
| cubezzz | did they? hmmm | Nov 27 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | so I had to watch it through a Canadian proxy server | Nov 27 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | yep | Nov 27 03:45 |
| cubezzz | I'm looking at cpan's web code | Nov 27 03:45 |
| cubezzz | flash frontend :-/ | Nov 27 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: The reason I found that out is cause the only American web feeds of the Olympics were in Silverlight | Nov 27 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | and I don't want it | Nov 27 03:46 |
| cubezzz | DaemonFC, there's always a way in | Nov 27 03:47 |
| cubezzz | the flash/silverlight crap is just a smoke-screen | Nov 27 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | Flash I don't mind | Nov 27 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.pcworld.com/article/183223/dissecting_a_black_friday_doorbuster_is_that_197_hp_laptop_any_good.html | Nov 27 03:48 |
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| DaemonFC | Silverlight is a major security hazard | Nov 27 03:48 |
| cubezzz | I have quite a few scripts for AM/FM radio stations which I invoke from the command line | Nov 27 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: I'm just gonna pay the extra $1 to get that TV shipped. I don't have to freeze my ass off, drive to the other side of town, fight 500+ rednecks, try to pack it into my car (if I even get one).... | Nov 27 03:51 |
| cubezzz | got the Romania sports on sopcast :) | Nov 27 03:51 |
| cubezzz | Redneck Rampage? | Nov 27 03:52 |
| cubezzz | ;-) | Nov 27 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | what always pisses me off is when I fight my way through for some black friday deals and all the good stuff was gone well before I even got back to Electronics | Nov 27 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | $248 for a 32" LCD HDTV is just unheard of | Nov 27 03:53 |
| cubezzz | yeah that's cheap | Nov 27 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | I'd still rather avoid the crowd and avoid finding out they had 5 TVs which are all immediately gone | Nov 27 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | I'm just going to keep refreshing the web page til it says I can buy it | Nov 27 03:54 |
| cubezzz | cspan uses mms | Nov 27 03:54 |
| DaemonFC | I think they normally have that model for like $350 | Nov 27 03:54 |
| DaemonFC | so they knocked $102 off it for tomorrow only | Nov 27 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | I have an ancient 26" CRT "HD-Ready" 4:3 dinosaur | Nov 27 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | it's long overdue to be replaced | Nov 27 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | I can't wait for Operation Repo to be in HD B-) | Nov 27 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | or Stargate Universe for that matter | Nov 27 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | hell, even Cartoon Network on this new TV will be better B-) | Nov 27 03:56 |
| *DaemonFC is excited :) | Nov 27 03:57 | |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: My grandmother got a 50" Plasma model today | Nov 27 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | I ended up getting to set it up for her | Nov 27 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | Kmart had them for like $699 I think | Nov 27 03:58 |
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| cubezzz | well, watched the Discovery Channel Documentary on the browser wars | Nov 27 05:42 |
| cubezzz | somewhat interesting but flawed | Nov 27 05:43 |
| cubezzz | didn't mention spyglass or Linux at all | Nov 27 05:44 |
| Ender2070_ | thats cause its the discovery channel | Nov 27 05:48 |
| Ender2070_ | you only get half the info | Nov 27 05:48 |
| cubezzz | yeah they talked to the netscape and mosiac guys, and microsoft | Nov 27 05:51 |
| tessier | Hope all you American types had a happy turkey day | Nov 27 05:54 |
| cubezzz | we pigged out in October :) | Nov 27 05:54 |
| cubezzz | IE 65%, Firefox 25%, Safari 4% | Nov 27 05:56 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Android is a screwed, hard-coded, non-portable abomination : harald welt http://tr.im/FUqG | Nov 27 05:57 | |
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| cubezzz | rogers? :) | Nov 27 05:57 |
| cubezzz | actually rogers is feeling the pinch too | Nov 27 05:59 |
| cubezzz | they announced layoffs today | Nov 27 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: IE is actually 63% | Nov 27 06:00 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @jackerhack RT @vineeth For all those going gung-ho about the Pranav Mistry talk at TED India, you should read this http://bit.ly/onVZx | Nov 27 06:01 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Canadian passports will not include fingerprints following review by Privacy Commissioner http://tr.im/FUrt (via sunil_abraham) | Nov 27 06:04 | |
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| tessier | cubezzz: So Firefox needs to rise another 20% to beat IE. Think it will happen? | Nov 27 06:10 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @takebackthetech: 25 nov international day against violence against women. take a stand! www.takebackthetech.net #takebackthetech | Nov 27 06:10 | |
| tessier | When is international day against violence against men? | Nov 27 06:10 |
| tessier | There are some truly evil women out there. I speak from experience. | Nov 27 06:11 |
| tessier | And yes, I'm bitter. | Nov 27 06:11 |
| cubezzz | yes, eventually IE will be the minority | Nov 27 06:11 |
| cubezzz | it's falling steadily | Nov 27 06:12 |
| cubezzz | it will go under 50% for sure | Nov 27 06:12 |
| cubezzz | there's a lot of anti-microsoft sentiment but more than that they simply aren't the best game in town | Nov 27 06:14 |
| tessier | I'm not seeing a whole lot of anti-Microsoft except in here and the Linux camp in general. | Nov 27 06:15 |
| tessier | Switching to anything else is still a very hard sell. | Nov 27 06:15 |
| cubezzz | tessier, where are you from? | Nov 27 06:19 |
| cubezzz | anyway, there's tons of anti-microsoft sentiment :) | Nov 27 06:19 |
| cubezzz | just within North America we are in the Dark Ages | Nov 27 06:20 |
| cubezzz | I do Linux installs for people all the time on their laptops | Nov 27 06:20 |
| tessier | I am in San Diego, CA USA | Nov 27 06:22 |
| tessier | No anti-MS sentiment in Vietnam either. They adore Bill Gates because he is rich. | Nov 27 06:22 |
| cubezzz | when you say Vietnam I guess you mean the South | Nov 27 06:24 |
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| Agent_Smith | GN to every1 | Nov 27 06:30 |
| Agent_Smith | Hey folks | Nov 27 06:31 |
| Agent_Smith | How 'bout this article ??? | Nov 27 06:31 |
| Agent_Smith | http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=3372 | Nov 27 06:31 |
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| Agent_Smith | Well, check it out... Another FUD piece... | Nov 27 06:32 |
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| cubezzz | how can the "market" reject something you can't even buy? | Nov 27 06:34 |
| tessier | By not choosing it | Nov 27 06:34 |
| tessier | And instead paying for something else | Nov 27 06:34 |
| tessier | Pretty bad when you can't compete even on "free". | Nov 27 06:35 |
| cubezzz | it's not even in stores to buy | Nov 27 06:35 |
| tessier | But by pretty bad I mean the MS monopoly. | Nov 27 06:35 |
| cubezzz | because of Microsoft's backroom deals | Nov 27 06:35 |
| tessier | He mentions netbooks though | Nov 27 06:35 |
| tessier | My understanding is that 30% of the world's new netbooks run Linux | Nov 27 06:36 |
| cubezzz | Hiner is clueless | Nov 27 06:36 |
| tessier | He doesn't seem to take that into account somehow. | Nov 27 06:36 |
| cubezzz | go to the store, and find a Linux laptop, oops, you can't | Nov 27 06:36 |
| tessier | The game is far from over though. ARM netbooks are coming. And the difference between each successive rev of Windows is less and less and harder to sell. | Nov 27 06:36 |
| cubezzz | I'm glad you are somewhat positive :) | Nov 27 06:37 |
| cubezzz | Linux is here to stay, my TV runs Linux | Nov 27 06:37 |
| cubezzz | that's pretty mainstream | Nov 27 06:38 |
| tessier | I have a ton of Linux devices. But it isn't "desktop" and most people don't even know or care that their TV runs Linux. | Nov 27 06:38 |
| tessier | That is not an area where MS can compete. | Nov 27 06:38 |
| tessier | But as more things move to iphones and netbooks etc. MS will find it harder and harder to compete. | Nov 27 06:38 |
| cubezzz | a lot of laptops are being sold, but I suppose you consider a laptop as a desktop also? | Nov 27 06:39 |
| tessier | It is just very slow in coming. | Nov 27 06:39 |
| tessier | I'm really not sure. Probably. | Nov 27 06:39 |
| tessier | MS is totally going to be taking the SCO route if it starts to get tough for them though. | Nov 27 06:39 |
| tessier | We'll see the software patent suits if the courts do not render software patents moot. | Nov 27 06:40 |
| cubezzz | in the US | Nov 27 06:40 |
| cubezzz | not in other countries | Nov 27 06:40 |
| tessier | Which is the only place that matters as far as MS is concerned. | Nov 27 06:40 |
| tessier | Nobody here but us Linux types know about Berlin and other municipalities moving towards Linux for govt. | Nov 27 06:41 |
| cubezzz | tessier, I think Roy's getting a fair bit of traffic | Nov 27 06:41 |
| cubezzz | people are starting to clue in | Nov 27 06:41 |
| cubezzz | most Colleges and Universities teach some Linux/Unix courses | Nov 27 06:42 |
| cubezzz | and the Unix design is a good design | Nov 27 06:42 |
| cubezzz | there's nothing that good about Microsoft's operating system design | Nov 27 06:44 |
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| tessier | Roy is getting a ton of traffic. | Nov 27 06:46 |
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| cubezzz | don't worry about Hiner, he doesn't know anything | Nov 27 06:47 |
| cubezzz | he might not even believe his own writings, he may just want to stir things up | Nov 27 06:50 |
| DaemonFC | Plot of 2012: The world ends. The rich people are saved. The arcs are built by exploited Chinese workers. The 500,000 survivors invade Africa, the only continent left. | Nov 27 07:23 |
| cubezzz | I think I'll give it a miss | Nov 27 07:25 |
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| DaemonFC | cubezzz: I thought it was very realistic | Nov 27 07:30 |
| DaemonFC | cause that's exactly what would happen in real life :) | Nov 27 07:30 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF1IJIWz3vI | Nov 27 07:31 |
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| DaemonFC | Alternate analysis: | Nov 27 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | World not saved from the next pole shift by global warming. | Nov 27 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | Rich people build arks to save themselves. | Nov 27 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | Arks are built by exploited Chinese workers at very low cost and quality. | Nov 27 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | Most don't work. | Nov 27 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | Three survive and reach Africa. | Nov 27 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | Starving aids riddled non-technical cannibal Africans receive much needed arks of food. | Nov 27 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | from my dad :P | Nov 27 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | Guess they should have brought guns instead of the contents of The Louvre.... | Nov 27 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | -Ryan | Nov 27 08:02 |
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| tessier | Black Friday is stupid. | Nov 27 08:32 |
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| schestowitz | Black Friday=shopping holiday | Nov 27 10:16 |
| schestowitz | Time for people to buy some stuff they don't need because prices are artificially made low and the xmas adverts already gets everyone into "shopping trance" | Nov 27 10:17 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] additional packages. (Was a mess since 10.1). | Nov 27 10:41 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Too Much Demand for #Nokia 's #Linux -powered #Smartphone http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/11/26/nokia_n900/ | Nov 27 10:44 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Professional Magazine About #FreeSoftware (Opensourc3) is Released http://www.opensourc3.org/ issue 5 | Nov 27 10:47 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Price of Free #Linux #Drivers Compared to Proprietary Cost http://blogs.fsfe.org/adridg/?p=489 | Nov 27 10:48 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeBSD 8.0 Reviewed http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/freebsd-8-0-review-enterprise-ready-server-operating-system.html | Nov 27 10:50 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla 3.7 to Use Hardware Acceleration in #Linux http://ur1.ca/gmhw http://ur1.ca/gmhx | Nov 27 10:56 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #MAFIAA to Pay Fine for Harassing Sits That Share http://ur1.ca/gmhz Not all copying is illegal | Nov 27 10:58 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Abuse of Power in Proprietary Software Agreements Probed by #EFF http://ur1.ca/gmi2 http://ur1.ca/gmi3 | Nov 27 11:00 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] New blog post: "The Trouble With Tablets" http://bit.ly/6VJTym #fb | Nov 27 11:01 | |
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| schestowitz | "Ashley Towns, the young man who thought it incredibly amusing to Rickroll jailbroken Iphone users, has swapped his ironic tee shirt for a cleaner one as he has joined mogeneration, an Iphone app developer firm. And, no, we hadn't heard of it either, 'til just now." http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1563478/apple-rickroller-job-developer | Nov 27 11:20 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Dual screen laptop mental http://bit.ly/4XvZSO 2048x600! You can get near double that in one 17" laptop 1920x1200 | Nov 27 11:44 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] The Widow of a Bachelor http://tr.im/FVLC | Nov 27 12:31 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] worm-like structures of fossilised bacteria found on Martian meteorite... We are not alone.... :) http://bit.ly/6Qyqz1 | Nov 27 12:31 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Is it just me who thinks "arse shaving" when hearing the surname of the talented Arsenal striker Andrei Arshavin? | Nov 27 12:34 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Beyond the ‘Public Relations’ http://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/27/novell-microsoft-gates-pr-spin/ | Nov 27 12:55 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Case for a #Mono -Free #Ubuntu and #Novell ’s Case for a Mono Fee Ubuntu http://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/27/mono-fee-and-ubuntu/ | Nov 27 13:27 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] If you look at the root cause of recession and debacle of markets, there will be a well suited gentlemen with "GREED" ; #myopinion | Nov 27 13:46 | |
| schestowitz | > This fellow lists your site: | Nov 27 13:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 27 13:54 |
| schestowitz | > http://crankyoldnutcase.blogspot.com/2009/11/be-martian-part-one.html | Nov 27 13:54 |
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| schestowitz | > | Nov 27 13:54 |
| schestowitz | > Unfortunately blogspot seems to have some terrible technical | Nov 27 13:54 |
| schestowitz | > misconfigurations so that it appears not to work with FF, at least what | Nov 27 13:54 |
| schestowitz | > I can try. Further it ignores my language settings. Is there any way | Nov 27 13:54 |
| schestowitz | > to get him to fix blogspot? | Nov 27 13:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 27 13:54 |
| schestowitz | > His blog is spot on and it would be appropriate to ask that a government | Nov 27 13:54 |
| schestowitz | > site make its tax-funded resources available in a format and medium that | Nov 27 13:54 |
| schestowitz | > is independent of any particular campaign donor. | Nov 27 13:54 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More on #France and Microsoft’s #OOXML ; #ODF Still a Leader http://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/27/microsoft-ooxml-shenanigans-fr/ | Nov 27 14:02 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/24/inquiry-iraq-chilcot-tony-blair | Nov 27 14:12 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ishkur.com/posters/blogging.jpg | Nov 27 14:20 |
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| schestowitz | I agree with Moody on the whole KDE "rebranding" thing.... I was never keen on "GNOME marketing" either. It's like the notion of using propaganda in FOSS | Nov 27 14:55 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] NDTV-Hindu covers #FOSS activities in chennai today 9.30 pm. (via @ilugc) #ndtv | Nov 27 14:56 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonhiner?PHPSESSID=1486289a12883ea5c552efc653134c1b | Nov 27 15:03 |
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| schestowitz | Jason Hiner’s Honors: | Nov 27 15:03 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Most Valuable Professional (MVP) 2009 | Nov 27 15:03 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Most Valuable Professional (MVP) 2008 | Nov 27 15:03 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Most Valuable Professional (MVP) 2007 | Nov 27 15:03 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Most Valuable Professional (MVP) 2006 | Nov 27 15:03 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Most Valuable Professional (MVP) 2005 | Nov 27 15:03 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Most Valuable Professional (MVP) 2004 | Nov 27 15:03 |
| schestowitz | And people wonder why he's bashing Linux. Heh.... | Nov 27 15:03 |
| schestowitz | just received a press release sent "on behalf of The Economist brand communications": hmm.... http://twitter.com/glynmoody/statuses/6081401388 | Nov 27 15:05 |
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| schestowitz | "Brand"......... | Nov 27 15:05 |
| schestowitz | Policing brands... | Nov 27 15:05 |
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| schestowitz | "Chewang Norphel has pioneered a simple method of creating artificial “glaciers” to irrigate farmland in high-altitude deserts. Athar Parvaiz reports from northwest India." http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/show/single/en/3334 | Nov 27 15:17 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Maybe the solution to the f-spot / mono issue is to fork it into g-spot with a different language, though it may be hard to find online :-[ | Nov 27 15:33 | |
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| schestowitz | "It's disturbing to realize that someone, possibly not even a government, was routinely intercepting most (all?) of the pager data in lower Manhattan as far back as 2001. Who was doing it? For that purpose? That, we don't know." http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/11/leaked_911_text.html | Nov 27 15:38 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/25/taking_liberties/entry5770280.shtml | Nov 27 15:38 |
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| schestowitz | Mutex nymshifted again | Nov 27 15:38 |
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| schestowitz | "Erik Estavillo is seeking $1m (£600,000) in damages, claiming the orc-tastic roleplaying game has turned him into a blank-eyed basketcase who can no longer function in the real world (as the lawsuit itself appears to prove)." http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/27/world_of_lawcraft/ | Nov 27 15:50 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/27/tata_outage/ | Nov 27 15:53 |
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| schestowitz | Could this be related to the BBC's issue? | Nov 27 15:53 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] OMFG! 'World's strongest' beer with 32% strength launched http://tinyurl.com/ygwc2zb | Nov 27 15:54 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: BBC News - 'World's strongest' beer with 32% strength launched .::. Size~: 55.82 KB | Nov 27 15:54 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Linux mascot may get a toxic reputation with "Nuclear Penguin" http://tinyurl.com/ygwc2zb (via @ThistleWeb ) | Nov 27 15:57 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: BBC News - 'World's strongest' beer with 32% strength launched .::. Size~: 55.81 KB | Nov 27 15:57 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] BBC News - Lawyers target thousands of 'illegal' file-sharers http://tinyurl.com/yavjeb6 | Nov 27 15:59 | |
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| wallc_ | Hellooooo :) | Nov 27 16:31 |
| wallc_ | There's a rumour going around that someone needs something transcribed.. | Nov 27 16:32 |
| wallc_ | :) | Nov 27 16:32 |
| wallc_ | Have to leave in a few minutes, but wanted to let Roy know to send me a link to the file that needs transcribing and I'll be happy to do it. | Nov 27 16:35 |
| MinceR | oh hai | Nov 27 16:35 |
| wallc_ | Hai! | Nov 27 16:35 |
| wallc_ | MinceR, do you know what it is that needs transcribing? | Nov 27 16:36 |
| MinceR | nope | Nov 27 16:37 |
| wallc_ | ok, no problem. | Nov 27 16:37 |
| wallc_ | I'm sure Roy will let me know. | Nov 27 16:37 |
| wallc_ | Gotta run now...take care :) | Nov 27 16:38 |
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| schestowitz | Damn, I napped | Nov 27 16:41 |
| schestowitz | http://ostatic.com/blog/thunderbird-3-0-release-candidate-just-in-time-for-thanksgiving | Nov 27 16:41 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux #Gaming on 8 Monitors (Video) http://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/27/linux-is-for-games/ | Nov 27 16:53 | |
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| schestowitz | #2 : "The New Version of OpenOffice.org, the World's Leading Free Office Software, is Now Available for Download" http://www.prweb.com/pr/best-online-news-releases-2009.html | Nov 27 16:59 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Best Online Press Release Awards - PRWeb .::. Size~: 11.16 KB | Nov 27 16:59 |
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| schestowitz | Beranger lied about quitting blogging: http://beranger.tumblr.com/post/258683873/ubuntu-linux-keeps-being-buggy-will-i-go-back-to-xp | Nov 27 17:03 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Béranger: Ubuntu Linux keeps being buggy... will I go back to XP? .::. Size~: 11.08 KB | Nov 27 17:03 |
| Ender2070 | LOL | Nov 27 17:06 |
| Ender2070 | go back to XP? he should | Nov 27 17:06 |
| Ender2070 | sounds like a dumbass | Nov 27 17:06 |
| *zer0c00l is now known as zer0c00l|dnd | Nov 27 17:08 | |
| Ender2070 | plus he compares centos vs ubuntu, but doesnt try Fedora? | Nov 27 17:10 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Nov 27 17:10 |
| kecskebak | http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/gang8/message/14499 | Nov 27 17:15 |
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| kecskebak | Michael Hudson should be running the US Treasury | Nov 27 17:15 |
| schestowitz | http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/26/thanksgiving-britain-america/ | Nov 27 17:15 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Thanksgiving: a displaced Brit writes& .::. Size~: 192.06 KB | Nov 27 17:15 |
| kecskebak | And Fred Harrison should be running the UK one | Nov 27 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: he already did | Nov 27 17:15 |
| schestowitz | He spent a lot of time bashing Linux | Nov 27 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Then moving to BSD | Nov 27 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Then coming back Linux | Nov 27 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Then announcing he ditches Linux for Windows | Nov 27 17:16 |
| schestowitz | And broke his promise again, he I predicted | Nov 27 17:16 |
| schestowitz | But now he's threatening again | Nov 27 17:16 |
| schestowitz | It's kind of funny | Nov 27 17:16 |
| schestowitz | kecskebak: let RMS run the treasury. Greed would not get in the way. | Nov 27 17:17 |
| kecskebak | No, Michael Hudson is the guy | Nov 27 17:17 |
| kecskebak | You really ought to go to KPFA.org and hear his interview with Bonnie Faulkener on Guns and Butter | Nov 27 17:17 |
| kecskebak | Michael and Fred predicted the current crisis 18 years ago | Nov 27 17:18 |
| kecskebak | Michael Hudson is an expert on economies right back to Old Testament times - he really knows his stuff. | Nov 27 17:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/mandriva-2010.html | Nov 27 17:20 |
| schestowitz | kecskebak: so he should move to China where he has prospects :-) | Nov 27 17:20 |
| kecskebak | He advises the Chinese government | Nov 27 17:20 |
| kecskebak | He was the one who advised Iceland not to pay the IMF and World Bank | Nov 27 17:20 |
| kecskebak | And also advised the Latvian government to do likewise | Nov 27 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Rogers left the UK, took his kids too | Nov 27 17:21 |
| schestowitz | [17:20] <kecskebak> He advises the Chinese government | Nov 27 17:21 |
| schestowitz | :- | Nov 27 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Ha | Nov 27 17:21 |
| schestowitz | :"Traitor!" | Nov 27 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Latvia has difficulties now | Nov 27 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Driving them to Free software.... | Nov 27 17:21 |
| kecskebak | Yes, he lectures in Latvia | Nov 27 17:21 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/10/24/china-and-latvia-fs-adoption/ | Nov 27 17:22 |
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| kecskebak | He advised the government not to pay the IMF and World Bank but to look after its population instead | Nov 27 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Bulgaria is broke.... http://boycottnovell.com/2009/10/26/bulgaria-free-software/ | Nov 27 17:22 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Bulgaria May Have to Move to Free(dom) Software | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 121.81 KB | Nov 27 17:22 |
| kecskebak | Hungary is broke | Nov 27 17:22 |
| kecskebak | I wish Hungary would redenominate its foreign debt in forints and stuff the Austrian and German banks | Nov 27 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Not Microsoft Hungary.... | Nov 27 17:22 |
| kecskebak | When you have a neoliberal government, it's a Microsoft Government | Nov 27 17:23 |
| kecskebak | I have to buy all my kids schoolbooks, etc. but they have money for Windows | Nov 27 17:23 |
| schestowitz | “Such behavior could lead to the exclusion of competitive products from the market and violate European Union rules, according to the authority known as the GVH.” | Nov 27 17:23 |
| schestowitz | From "Microsoft Office raid in Hungary" | Nov 27 17:23 |
| schestowitz | Forbes or AP AFAIK | Nov 27 17:24 |
| schestowitz | kecskebak: it was a US president who said it's "facism" when corporations run the (or *are* the) government | Nov 27 17:24 |
| schestowitz | He said that | Nov 27 17:24 |
| schestowitz | "facism" | Nov 27 17:24 |
| kecskebak | I've heard the EU described as the Fourth Reich for that reason | Nov 27 17:25 |
| schestowitz | By that definition, his nation became fascist | Nov 27 17:25 |
| schestowitz | New to me.... | Nov 27 17:25 |
| schestowitz | But... | Nov 27 17:25 |
| schestowitz | Henry the Fourth seems to be Nader's nickname for Obamabush or something | Nov 27 17:25 |
| schestowitz | I'd have to receck it | Nov 27 17:26 |
| schestowitz | But the sovrenity there is messed up, that's for sure | Nov 27 17:26 |
| schestowitz | *sovereignty | Nov 27 17:26 |
| kecskebak | I don't get involved in politics - I just watch | Nov 27 17:27 |
| kecskebak | I try and make bits and pieces of free stuff - I suppose Microsoft would see that as a political act in itself | Nov 27 17:28 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is very political... coming from a political background in fac | Nov 27 17:32 |
| schestowitz | Spotted earlier today: | Nov 27 17:33 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tgdaily.com/software-features/44816-google-is-getting-to-be-a-bit-unstoppable | Nov 27 17:33 |
| schestowitz | "IBM was based on Quaker values, Novell was based on Mormon values and Lotus, we think, was based on atheist values. But neither Microsoft nor Google are based on any religious values at all." | Nov 27 17:33 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft = 10 commandments be damns | Nov 27 17:33 |
| schestowitz | Google = God is a cookie | Nov 27 17:33 |
| schestowitz | *damned | Nov 27 17:34 |
| kecskebak | Oh well, time to call it a day for the evening, but I always enjoy it here. ttfn | Nov 27 17:37 |
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| schestowitz | We've got wallc transcribing the talk from Vandana Shiva | Nov 27 17:40 |
| PetoKraus | did you guys sign the petition? | Nov 27 17:49 |
| PetoKraus | http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/dontdisconnectus/ | Nov 27 17:49 |
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| schestowitz | "BoycottNovell, Stallman, GPL, FSF, F/OSS+++ and monosceptics: not the real issue, and quoting Theodore Roosevelt is not the answer." http://nat.org/blog/2009/11/the-man-in-the-arena/ | Nov 27 17:51 |
| schestowitz | Hehe. | Nov 27 17:51 |
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| schestowitz | PetoKraus: just have | Nov 27 17:53 |
| PetoKraus | schestowitz, good | Nov 27 17:53 |
| schestowitz | Though I'm not at danger of disconnection cause I don't d/l MAFIAA-tainted trash | Nov 27 17:54 |
| *schestowitz listens to "The Cavendish by Nellie McKay on SXSW 2009 Showcasing Artists" | Nov 27 17:55 | |
| PetoKraus | well it doesn't matter | Nov 27 17:55 |
| PetoKraus | it's privacy issue | Nov 27 17:55 |
| schestowitz | It's the principle too | Nov 27 17:55 |
| schestowitz | And I got this legal music from torrent | Nov 27 17:55 |
| schestowitz | They try to criminalise torrent with all the legal stuff that's on it | Nov 27 17:55 |
| schestowitz | Some ISPs treat those protocols as "naughty" | Nov 27 17:55 |
| schestowitz | PetoKraus: Virgin spies now | Nov 27 17:56 |
| schestowitz | I suppose you heard | Nov 27 17:56 |
| PetoKraus | i know | Nov 27 17:56 |
| schestowitz | 40% of people | Nov 27 17:56 |
| PetoKraus | i'm writing a letter | Nov 27 17:56 |
| schestowitz | Won't say who | Nov 27 17:56 |
| schestowitz | Deep packet inspection | Nov 27 17:56 |
| schestowitz | I.e. display of all your personal things | Nov 27 17:56 |
| schestowitz | Some dude on minimum wage will be having a joyride through your activity | Nov 27 17:57 |
| schestowitz | And don't worry..... such stuff never leaks... it's done by "professionals" | Nov 27 17:57 |
| schestowitz | 9/11: "It's disturbing to realize that someone, possibly not even a government, was routinely intercepting most (all?) of the pager data in lower Manhattan as far back as 2001. Who was doing it? For that purpose? That, we don't know." http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/11/leaked_911_text.html | Nov 27 17:57 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Schneier on Security: Leaked 9/11 Text Messages .::. Size~: 45.76 KB | Nov 27 17:57 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I look forward to tabloids buying material on celebrities which they bought from Mandelson's ISP 'troopers' | Nov 27 18:00 | |
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| cubezzz | "he True Story of the Internet" was a bit disappointing | Nov 27 18:09 |
| cubezzz | The | Nov 27 18:09 |
| cubezzz | no mention of spyglass or Linux | Nov 27 18:09 |
| cubezzz | concentrated mainly on Netscape | Nov 27 18:10 |
| cubezzz | and Microsoft IE | Nov 27 18:10 |
| schestowitz | http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/dontdisconnectus/?signed=f754d0a.2e09b4 "Signatures: 25,999" | Nov 27 18:18 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Introduction to e-petitions | Number10.gov.uk .::. Size~: 11.48 KB | Nov 27 18:18 |
| cubezzz | you know fidonet was basically a free "internet" | Nov 27 18:20 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] UK residents, please sign http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/dontdisconnectus/?signed=f754d0a.2e09b4 Signatures so far: 25,999 | Nov 27 18:20 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Introduction to e-petitions | Number10.gov.uk .::. Size~: 11.48 KB | Nov 27 18:20 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: what's the URL again? | Nov 27 18:22 |
| schestowitz | I'd watch it now | Nov 27 18:22 |
| cubezzz | http://xhgc18.blogspot.com/2008/09/discovery-channel-download-true-story.html | Nov 27 18:22 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Movies, Series, Docs, etc.: Discovery Channel - Download : The True Story of the Internet .::. Size~: 92.42 KB | Nov 27 18:22 |
| cubezzz | rapidshare is probably the faster way to get it | Nov 27 18:23 |
| cubezzz | they did talk a bit about Mosiac | Nov 27 18:27 |
| schestowitz | Got it: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=380058528391483877# | Nov 27 18:28 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Download - The True Story Of The Internet "People Power" .::. Size~: 38.49 KB | Nov 27 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Away..... | Nov 27 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Starts well | Nov 27 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Good stuff | Nov 27 18:30 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] @schestowitz Always a good idea to link an unsigned petition, so peeps can sign it lol http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/dontdisconnectus/ | Nov 27 18:38 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Introduction to e-petitions | Number10.gov.uk .::. Size~: 11.48 KB | Nov 27 18:38 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Wifey sent me to the curry house to save me from having to cook. Great first week at new job. Looking forward to many more.But now, beer #fb | Nov 27 18:50 | |
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| schestowitz | He makes it seem like YouTube was the first time people cooperated | Nov 27 18:56 |
| schestowitz | Was Napster first with p2p in general? | Nov 27 18:56 |
| schestowitz | Doubtful. | Nov 27 18:56 |
| threexk | there was scour.net. I can't remember if that was true peer-to-peer filesharing though | Nov 27 19:00 |
| threexk | in the context of illegally copied music, at least | Nov 27 19:01 |
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| Ender2070 | Nat Friedman? isnt that the cofounder of gnome | Nov 27 19:19 |
| schestowitz | The show wrongly calls Wales "founder of Wikipedia" | Nov 27 19:21 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: ya | Nov 27 19:21 |
| Ender2070 | cofounder of ximian | Nov 27 19:22 |
| Ender2070 | novell employee | Nov 27 19:22 |
| Ender2070 | and a former microsoft employee | Nov 27 19:23 |
| Ender2070 | Interesting: http://nat.org/blog/2009/10/startup-visa/ | Nov 27 19:31 |
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| Ender2070 | tells the story of miguel's visa adventure | Nov 27 19:31 |
| Ender2070 | though im sure if they werent such prudes, they could've picked Canada instead of the states | Nov 27 19:32 |
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| amd-linux | Landmark decision of the Britsh High Court re software patents: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Gemstar-erleidet-Schlappe-in-Rechtsstreit-um-EPG-Patente-871244.html | Nov 27 19:41 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: heise online - Gemstar erleidet Schlappe in Rechtsstreit um EPG-Patente .::. Size~: 38.69 KB | Nov 27 19:41 |
| amd-linux | no English source yet | Nov 27 19:42 |
| schestowitz | Hi, amd-linux | Nov 27 19:43 |
| amd-linux | Eveneing, Roy | Nov 27 19:44 |
| amd-linux | holy crap I need to improve my typewriting | Nov 27 19:44 |
| schestowitz | The UK has Brimelow | Nov 27 19:44 |
| schestowitz | 'Civil' servant | Nov 27 19:44 |
| schestowitz | More like "industrial" servant | Nov 27 19:44 |
| schestowitz | The UK-IPO and EPO are business | Nov 27 19:44 |
| schestowitz | They are not a public service | Nov 27 19:45 |
| amd-linux | well, this decision might make him thinking | Nov 27 19:45 |
| amd-linux | twice | Nov 27 19:45 |
| schestowitz | It's this old illusion of things "run for the people" | Nov 27 19:45 |
| schestowitz | Like 'Federal' Reserve | Nov 27 19:45 |
| schestowitz | They are private or privatise | Nov 27 19:45 |
| schestowitz | Under this whole Friedmanite "free market" delusion | Nov 27 19:45 |
| schestowitz | amd-linux: in the UK we have no protests over patents | Nov 27 19:46 |
| schestowitz | In Germany you had farmer and FFII | Nov 27 19:46 |
| amd-linux | if reports are true, the court said that a simple computer implementation does not fulfill the requirement of a technical implementation | Nov 27 19:46 |
| schestowitz | They figured out what the EPO had been doing | Nov 27 19:46 |
| amd-linux | right, right here in Munich :-) | Nov 27 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Did you attend? | Nov 27 19:46 |
| schestowitz | RMS was there last year | Nov 27 19:47 |
| amd-linux | nope, working 9 to 9.... most of the days | Nov 27 19:47 |
| schestowitz | zoobab was there | Nov 27 19:47 |
| schestowitz | 9 to 9? | Nov 27 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Europe is known for good work ethics and boundaries | Nov 27 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Unless the China/US culture of excessive work got inherited | Nov 27 19:48 |
| *Balrog has quit () | Nov 27 19:48 | |
| amd-linux | 9 am to 9 pm of course | Nov 27 19:48 |
| schestowitz | Discipline for limits | Nov 27 19:48 |
| amd-linux | not 9 am to 9 am ;-) | Nov 27 19:48 |
| schestowitz | amd-linux: 12hours+travel+preparation | Nov 27 19:48 |
| schestowitz | Work takes longer than just "work" | Nov 27 19:48 |
| schestowitz | There are peripheral costs of time | Nov 27 19:48 |
| amd-linux | right.... traveling m commuting sucks... | Nov 27 19:48 |
| schestowitz | In China 80 hours/week is common | Nov 27 19:48 |
| schestowitz | Physical work, mentally exhausting with risk of sackign | Nov 27 19:49 |
| amd-linux | however sometimes I am lucky and can listen to interesting talks of our local Softies | Nov 27 19:49 |
| amd-linux | in the train | Nov 27 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Rmember the guy who killed himself over the iPhone thing | Nov 27 19:49 |
| amd-linux | 80 hrs is insane | Nov 27 19:49 |
| amd-linux | you cant be productive when working for a longer time because you ruin your ressources | Nov 27 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes you meet MS Deutschland employees there | Nov 27 19:50 |
| schestowitz | Even more | Nov 27 19:50 |
| amd-linux | "meet"? well, I am sitting across them and listen to their talks :-) | Nov 27 19:50 |
| schestowitz | 81 hours is what I read | Nov 27 19:50 |
| schestowitz | In RawStory | Nov 27 19:50 |
| schestowitz | RMS was sent this too (it was by mail) | Nov 27 19:50 |
| schestowitz | What do they talk about? Paying FOKUS to make OOXML marketing material? | Nov 27 19:51 |
| schestowitz | Disguised as 'research'... of course. | Nov 27 19:51 |
| amd-linux | :-) | Nov 27 19:51 |
| schestowitz | Academic research is the saame | Nov 27 19:51 |
| amd-linux | nope, last time they talked about people now working as self employed for MS, before the layoff thing was public | Nov 27 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Some company makes scholarships available for you to prove what they want | Nov 27 19:52 |
| amd-linux | so I knew that the started to trim down workforce | Nov 27 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Yes, externally | Nov 27 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft hides layoffs of externals and temps | Nov 27 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Contractors | Nov 27 19:52 |
| schestowitz | CFO quit some ays ago | Nov 27 19:52 |
| schestowitz | *days | Nov 27 19:52 |
| amd-linux | this is a common way to pay compensation by hiring them back as "contractors" for a year | Nov 27 19:53 |
| amd-linux | in fact, they got laid off | Nov 27 19:53 |
| amd-linux | and get a compensation | Nov 27 19:53 |
| amd-linux | in Germany, it is difficult to fire people so usually you pay a compensation | Nov 27 19:53 |
| amd-linux | to get people out | Nov 27 19:54 |
| schestowitz | Yes, less reponsibility | Nov 27 19:55 |
| schestowitz | No pensions | Nov 27 19:55 |
| schestowitz | vis-a-via pensions.... | Nov 27 19:55 |
| schestowitz | Guess which other company crossed them out? | Nov 27 19:55 |
| schestowitz | Also, in Germany, Novell closed some offices IIRC and had workers program from home | Nov 27 19:56 |
| schestowitz | It was not so long ago that Novell shipped Nuremberg jobs to Taiwan | Nov 27 19:56 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Tiger Woods seriously hurt in a car crash :-( | Nov 27 19:58 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Desktop #GNU #Linux Required to Save #Windows Sometimes ( #LiveCDs ) http://ur1.ca/gne2 | Nov 27 20:07 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google 's #GNU #Linux Distribution Explored Further and Praised http://ur1.ca/gneb | Nov 27 20:10 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Visual Effects in #GNU #Linux Get Better Designed http://ur1.ca/gnee http://ur1.ca/gnef | Nov 27 20:12 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Elements changes for today and the future « SmSpillaz Blog .::. Size~: 21.17 KB | Nov 27 20:12 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] List of CD/DVD Writing Software for #GNU #Linux http://www.junauza.com/2009/11/5-of-best-free-and-open-source-cddvd.html | Nov 27 20:14 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: 5 of the Best Free and Open Source CD/DVD Writing Software for Linux | TECH SOURCE FROM BOHOL .::. Size~: 96.54 KB | Nov 27 20:14 |
| Ender2070 | I know some people think of Google as being just as bad as microsoft. However, google didnt become #1 by making shit, and forcing people to use that shit via compatibility or other excuses | Nov 27 20:17 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #GNU #Linux Games Released in Time for #Thanksgiving http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/14403 http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/14395 | Nov 27 20:18 | |
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| Ender2070 | http://www.tgdaily.com/software-features/44816-google-is-getting-to-be-a-bit-unstoppable | Nov 27 20:20 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Effect of Very Fast Progress in #GNU #Linux Desktop Environments http://ur1.ca/gnf9 | Nov 27 20:20 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Its A Binary World 2.0 » We Dont Really Want Innovation .::. Size~: 134.99 KB | Nov 27 20:20 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Use Case of Damn Small #Linux http://linux.bihlman.com/2009/11/26/linux-text-processing-using-damn-small-linux/ #dsl | Nov 27 20:23 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Debian #GNU #Linux Still Chosen Over Its Derivative #Ubuntu at Times http://blog.zlowram.co.cc/?p=89 | Nov 27 20:24 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux 2.6.32 in Review, "Linux is Not an OS" http://ur1.ca/gnfr http://ur1.ca/gnfs | Nov 27 20:28 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Kernel Log: Coming in 2.6.32 (Part 5) - Architecture code, memory management, virtualisation and tracing - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 83.41 KB | Nov 27 20:28 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Again, Linux is not an OS | Nuxified.org .::. Size~: 36.59 KB | Nov 27 20:28 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mandriva 2010 Glorified in New Detailed #Review http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/mandriva-2010.html | Nov 27 20:34 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fedora 12 Good to Replace #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/gngf http://ur1.ca/gngg | Nov 27 20:35 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Pressure on #Nexon to Liberate Code http://jakedth.tumblr.com/post/257889042/open-letter-to-nexon | Nov 27 20:38 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Andrew Landeryou appears to be a waste of skin. http://is.gd/54RL0 Please do forward. | Nov 27 20:45 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: David Gerard » Blog Archive » Andrew Landeryou appears to be a waste of skin. .::. Size~: 15.59 KB | Nov 27 20:45 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Part of #Government of #Australia Speaks About #FreeSoftware for Better Democracy http://ur1.ca/gnhg | Nov 27 20:48 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: NICTA Speech: Government 2.0 Co-designing A Better Democracy | Kate Lundy .::. Size~: 89.3 KB | Nov 27 20:48 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Continued Trend of Opening Up of Data ( #OpenAccess , #OpenStreetMap ) http://ur1.ca/gnhk http://ur1.ca/gnhl | Nov 27 20:49 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Swedish National #Police Board Reports Success After Migration to #FreeSoftware http://ur1.ca/gnht | Nov 27 20:53 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #McKinnon 'Hacker' Verdict in Police States http://ur1.ca/gnhz http://ur1.ca/gni0 | Nov 27 20:56 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Solved that httpd.conf problem with mod_macro. Had to download 500MB Sun cc to compile 30KB module ... but it WORKS! | Nov 27 20:58 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Wikipedia Responds to Latest #FUD from Luddite Competitors, Co-founder Weighs in http://ur1.ca/gni3 http://ur1.ca/gni4 | Nov 27 20:58 | |
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| _goblin | anyone got any experience with Linux syscalls? trying to port some old Win asm (masm).... | Nov 27 21:02 |
| _goblin | now that I feel a little better (and have some time off work) I thought Id tackle a few things Ive kept putting off. | Nov 27 21:02 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #UK #Surveillance Society Progresses http://ur1.ca/gnik http://ur1.ca/gnil http://ur1.ca/gnim | Nov 27 21:06 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IntellectualMonopolies Harm Science -- Claim http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/26/science-shackles-intellectual-property | Nov 27 21:06 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Digital Colonisation of #Britain Faces More Backlash http://ur1.ca/gnin http://ur1.ca/gnio http://ur1.ca/gnip | Nov 27 21:07 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Vista7 'Upgrades' Are Failing http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1563635/windows-upgrades-fail-intel-driver | Nov 27 21:08 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Vista7 Breaks #Samba a Little More, as Usual http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/6911/1/ | Nov 27 21:12 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Investor Sees the Demise/Failure of #Vista 7 http://ur1.ca/gniy | Nov 27 21:13 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @thistleweb not even the superstars are invisible then. | Nov 27 21:15 | |
| schestowitz | I've just managed to speak on the phone for one hour while posting all the above | Nov 27 21:15 |
| MinceR | :) | Nov 27 21:26 |
| MinceR | so it wasn't an exciting conversation? :> | Nov 27 21:26 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] judging by the technical level of the audience and presenters of twit.tv maybe, the name "twit network" is well named lol | Nov 27 21:34 | |
| Ender2070 | http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=348 | Nov 27 21:36 |
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| Ender2070 | lol | Nov 27 21:36 |
| Ender2070 | ur bot can't take a french E | Nov 27 21:36 |
| trmanco | noooo | Nov 27 21:38 |
| trmanco | not yet | Nov 27 21:38 |
| trmanco | é :) | Nov 27 21:38 |
| trmanco | or is it è | Nov 27 21:38 |
| MinceR | i saw é earlier | Nov 27 21:39 |
| MinceR | but it could have been wrong :) | Nov 27 21:39 |
| trmanco | hmm | Nov 27 21:39 |
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| sebsebseb | trmanco: | Nov 27 21:42 |
| trmanco | whallo :) | Nov 27 21:42 |
| MinceR | Nov 27 21:43 | |
| trmanco | \0/ | Nov 27 21:44 |
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| schestowitz | Ender2070: he broke 2 promises | Nov 27 22:20 |
| schestowitz | 1) moving to BSD | Nov 27 22:20 |
| schestowitz | 2) moving to WIndows | Nov 27 22:20 |
| schestowitz | maybe he can claim for the fourth time to be dumping Linux, for attention | Nov 27 22:20 |
| schestowitz | 3) Saying he quits blogging | Nov 27 22:20 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Nov 27 22:28 |
| Ender2070 | he didnt quit blogging | Nov 27 22:29 |
| Ender2070 | he just blogged elsewhere | Nov 27 22:29 |
| Ender2070 | the funniest thing in my mind is his lack of trying fedora 12 | Nov 27 22:29 |
| Ender2070 | he likes centos | Nov 27 22:29 |
| Ender2070 | he even made a centos repo, which is the same process to make one for fedora | Nov 27 22:30 |
| Ender2070 | also, he ignores KDE apps | Nov 27 22:30 |
| Ender2070 | ocular owns for pdf's | Nov 27 22:30 |
| Ender2070 | dolphin owns nautilus, but he says dont mention dolphin (why cause its better?) | Nov 27 22:31 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Study: #IntellectualMonopolies (Patents) Vastly Dominated by… the Monopolies http://ur1.ca/gnnl | Nov 27 22:37 | |
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| schestowitz | Ender2070: yes, he loves RHEL clones. He tried em all. | Nov 27 23:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | Starwars KOTOR is now $2.50 on Steam | Nov 27 23:48 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NotN: Boris Johnson to become Sheriff of London http://notnews.today.com/?p=755 | Nov 27 23:49 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #StarWars KOTOR is $2.50 on #Stream right now! !miotd | Nov 27 23:51 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FSFE and Others Denounce Latest #Microsoft-inspired #FUD Against GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/gnr8 | Nov 27 23:56 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: FSFE and Others Denounce Latest Microsoft-inspired FUD Against GNU/Linux and Free Software | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 122.42 KB | Nov 27 23:56 |
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