| DaemonFC | http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/cardio/cardio-salt-initiative.shtml | Jan 12 00:02 |
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| DaemonFC | Galactic Emperor Bloomberg to micromanage your salt intake now | Jan 12 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jan 12 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | nothing like the government mandating that every restaurant makes bland inedible crap | Jan 12 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | Watch this spread, creep its way into every big city in the country, like their trans-fat ban | Jan 12 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | or their ban on smoking in bars | Jan 12 00:04 |
| MinceR | 010226 < DaemonFC> nothing like the government mandating that every restaurant makes bland inedible crap | Jan 12 00:05 |
| MinceR | sounds like Demolition Man | Jan 12 00:05 |
| MinceR | (the movie) | Jan 12 00:05 |
| DaemonFC | nope, every restaurant was Taco Bell | Jan 12 00:05 |
| DaemonFC | and I would actually be mostly alright with that | Jan 12 00:05 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 12 00:05 |
| MinceR | remember, they outlawed salt | Jan 12 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | every restaurant was Pizza Hut in the European release I think | Jan 12 00:06 |
| MinceR | it was | Jan 12 00:06 |
| MinceR | though they forgot to replace the logos on the glass panes | Jan 12 00:06 |
| MinceR | i think it was a stupid decision | Jan 12 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | so it was dubbed over "Pizza Hut" when they said "Taco Bell" and the sign out front was Taco Bell? | Jan 12 00:06 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @johl Vote for Barbie to become a computer engineer! http://www.barbie.com/vote/ | Jan 12 00:06 | |
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| DaemonFC | that's some bad editing | Jan 12 00:07 |
| MinceR | yes, the signs that weren't on the windows were replaced | Jan 12 00:07 |
| MinceR | not too well, but i expected it to be worse | Jan 12 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | do they not have Taco Bell over there or something? | Jan 12 00:07 |
| MinceR | the colored sign at the entrance and the one on the car nearby was replaced | Jan 12 00:07 |
| MinceR | probably not | Jan 12 00:08 |
| MinceR | certainly not here in hungary | Jan 12 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | must not or else they wouldn't have changed the joke | Jan 12 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I think they only had one Taco Bell in the UK and it closed | Jan 12 00:08 |
| MinceR | anyway, my point is that they outlawed everything they thought was bad for you, including salt, which likely resulted in bland food | Jan 12 00:08 |
| MinceR | iirc Spartan did dislike their food | Jan 12 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | salt, red meat, list of other stuff, sex | Jan 12 00:08 |
| MinceR | i forgot the red meat :) | Jan 12 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | my favorite part was the three seashells and the cursing ban | Jan 12 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | he walks up and cusses out the ticket issuing machine to get toilet paper :D | Jan 12 00:09 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 12 00:09 |
| MinceR | the whole movie is great | Jan 12 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | "Jeffrey Dahmer!?!? I love that guy!!!!" | Jan 12 00:10 |
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| MinceR | WP says they outlawed meat, spicy food and table salt among other things | Jan 12 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The Magnetic Accelerator Gun was what I'd get if I could have anything from that movie | Jan 12 00:10 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 12 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | a rail gun in the form of a rifle, hell yes | Jan 12 00:10 |
| MinceR | could be a coil gun | Jan 12 00:11 |
| MinceR | (no friction :> ) | Jan 12 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | meh, similar concept either way | Jan 12 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | go deer hunting with a rail gun | Jan 12 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jan 12 00:12 |
| MinceR | "This is very deer to me." | Jan 12 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | I like overkill | Jan 12 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | reduces the margin of error to manageable levels | Jan 12 00:13 |
| MinceR | There is no "overkill". There is only "open fire" and "reload". | Jan 12 00:13 |
| MinceR | though in the case of deer hunting, it's preferable to keep damage to its flesh to minimum | Jan 12 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, and if you bought a fully automatic weapon here before they were banned, you can still legally have it | Jan 12 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | there's a few left around | Jan 12 00:14 |
| MinceR | you can also legally own railguns and coilguns since they're not firearms, can you not? | Jan 12 00:14 |
| MinceR | the only problem is that the batteries would be huge :> | Jan 12 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know | Jan 12 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | would probably be a case for the supreme court (in the end) | Jan 12 00:14 |
| MinceR | at least here the definition of a firearm includes that it uses chemical reactions to propel the projectile | Jan 12 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | there's two ways something can become illegal | Jan 12 00:15 |
| MinceR | but also anything that can easily cause harm is classified, so here you aren't entirely out of the water | Jan 12 00:15 |
| *Balrog has quit () | Jan 12 00:15 | |
| DaemonFC | Congress passes a new law, or the courts interpret existing ones more broadly | Jan 12 00:15 |
| MinceR | i know, it's a mess | Jan 12 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: A lot of our federal government bloat and overreaching into state matters is due to one flaw in the Constitution | Jan 12 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | the Commerce Clause | Jan 12 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | too broad, too vague | Jan 12 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | gives the feds unlimited power to beat the states into submission | Jan 12 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | I guess I can understand the need to "revolt", but all those guys are like Angry White Man parties that even scare the Republicans shitless | Jan 12 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | so I'm kind of hoping that doesn't catch on | Jan 12 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 12 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | the Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 expired in like 2004, MinceR | Jan 12 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | but it wasn't really a ban on assault weapons | Jan 12 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | it was a ban on large clips, hunting rifles, and a few things like hand grenades which were already illegal to give it a more scary tone | Jan 12 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | the Democrats want to "gun control" the second amendment out of existence | Jan 12 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | make it so impractical to own any type or caliber of gun that nobody does | Jan 12 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | jack up the licensing fees so high that nobody can pay them | Jan 12 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 12 00:21 |
| MinceR | break the spirit of the second amendment | Jan 12 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | they also keep a list of everyone that owns one so they can disarm the civilians quickly were martial law declared | Jan 12 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, the government has tried everything they can do to encroach on the bill of rights without indisputably violating them | Jan 12 00:22 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Reasons to Avoid #BestBuy for #GNU #Linux -hostile Attitude http://ur1.ca/jm9i | Jan 12 00:22 | |
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| DaemonFC | personally, I would like to see another bill of rights with another dozen stipulations or so | Jan 12 00:23 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Members Choice Awards Kicked off at LinuxQuestions.org http://ur1.ca/jm9k | Jan 12 00:23 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Top Hypothetical #GNU #Linux Headlines http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/10things/?p=1284 #1 is odd.... | Jan 12 00:23 | |
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| cubezzz | this is very old but still funny: | Jan 12 00:25 |
| cubezzz | http://rocinante.colorado.edu/~wilms/recreation/chicken.html | Jan 12 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft would never embrace Linux or OOo, anything else is as good as maybe | Jan 12 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | they only have two products that make money | Jan 12 00:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | very old | Jan 12 00:25 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] One #GNU #Linux Victory (E.g. #Android , #Chrome ) is Victory of All http://ur1.ca/jm9q | Jan 12 00:25 | |
| DaemonFC | yeah, newspapers are now selling subscriptions on Kindle | Jan 12 00:26 |
| MinceR | i'd expect them to embrace *bsd and go-oo before those two anyway | Jan 12 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | apparently still not aware of news.google.com | Jan 12 00:26 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: and it works if some users are also not aware of it either :> | Jan 12 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Some of Windows is probably still BSD code | Jan 12 00:26 |
| MinceR | indeed it is | Jan 12 00:26 |
| cubezzz | how much are the subscriptions? | Jan 12 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: I don't know | Jan 12 00:27 |
| MinceR | but they could rebuild winblows as a gui or desktop environment on top of *bsd to save costs | Jan 12 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | anything more than free is too much | Jan 12 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not paying to listen to Fox Noise and Communist News Network | Jan 12 00:27 |
| MinceR | or just switch to it as a supported platform after winblows dies | Jan 12 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | and newspapers are the same thing on dead trees | Jan 12 00:27 |
| MinceR | (if they were to survive that, which i consider unlikely) | Jan 12 00:27 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Merits of Compilation-based Distros http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/are-source-compiled-packages-really-faster-36314 | Jan 12 00:27 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #LinuxBasement is Back http://www.linuxbasement.com/content/lb-episode-48-holiday-geek-roundup-linux-basement I love this show | Jan 12 00:27 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Are source compiled packages really faster? .::. Size~: 69.26 KB | Jan 12 00:27 |
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| MinceR | yet it was said that they've based the new OS of Sidekick on NetBSD | Jan 12 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I've wondered about all these people trying to use OS X on AMD processors (mental health and other reasons) | Jan 12 00:28 |
| MinceR | i'd wonder regardless of the CPU brand | Jan 12 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | one reason is that Apple probably heavily optimizes things in OS X heavily for Intel processors | Jan 12 00:29 |
| MinceR | crApple optimizes things? | Jan 12 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | so you'd probably see a severe performance loss on AMD processors | Jan 12 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It's not hard to just use the compiler that Intel probably gives them | Jan 12 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure it only optimizes code for Intel processors | Jan 12 00:30 |
| MinceR | remember, we're talking about crApple | Jan 12 00:30 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Progress Report on #Nouveau in #Linux (Mainline) http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzg3Mg great stuff! | Jan 12 00:30 | |
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| MinceR | also, we're talking about the OS which has a frankensteinesque kernel consisting of the freebsd kernel welded on top of the mach microkernel | Jan 12 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | Windows actually I remember hearing is compiled with optimizations specific to Intel or AMD | Jan 12 00:31 |
| MinceR | combining the drawbacks of both with some extra performance penalties | Jan 12 00:31 |
| MinceR | also, compiler options will help little on braindead code | Jan 12 00:31 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Kaseya Starts Targeting #GNU #Linux http://www.mspmentor.net/2010/01/10/kaseya-pursues-smart-phones-linux-managed-services-markets/ | Jan 12 00:31 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: You'd be surprised | Jan 12 00:31 |
| MinceR | btw, doesn't m$ use the compiler of VS? | Jan 12 00:32 |
| MinceR | and not ICC? | Jan 12 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | There's quite a few things in Linux that the compiler will overrule if you let it | Jan 12 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | because it produces a better binary in the end (probably) | Jan 12 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | the flip side is that you might provoke some bugs that way :D | Jan 12 00:32 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: proper choice and implementation of algorithms will still trump CPU-specific optimizations | Jan 12 00:32 |
| MinceR | executing an operation in a few less cycles is meaningless if that operation is executed several times while it isn't necessary to perform at all :> | Jan 12 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I always like to make my own kernel | Jan 12 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | distro kernels with generic optimizations and drivers for a billion things I'll never have | Jan 12 00:33 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Hacker Evolution: Untold (Computer Game) is Coming the Desktop #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/jmab | Jan 12 00:33 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Linux Gaming News » Blog Archive » Hacker Evolution: Untold For GNU/Linux Goes Beta ! .::. Size~: 27.86 KB | Jan 12 00:33 |
| MinceR | i'm generally too lazy to compile my own kernel nowadays, instead i stick with a binary that was (hopefully) tested already | Jan 12 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | well, building a kernel on Debian is just so ridiculously easy | Jan 12 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | it even packages itself for you | Jan 12 00:34 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Amarok 2.2.2 is Released, Preview of #KDE SC 4.5 http://ur1.ca/jmad http://ur1.ca/jmae #kde4 #music | Jan 12 00:34 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Amarok 2.2.2 "Maya Gold" Released | Amarok .::. Size~: 21.29 KB | Jan 12 00:34 |
| MinceR | i know | Jan 12 00:34 |
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| DaemonFC | it just does not get easier than that | Jan 12 00:35 |
| MinceR | installing it from a prebuilt package is even easier :> | Jan 12 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, then they have to make thousands of assumptions that probably aren't true on your system | Jan 12 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | you really only have to go through those all once, once it spits out your .config file, you can base future kernels on that | Jan 12 00:36 |
| MinceR | nowadays that simply means choosing a less specific CPU to build for (which might matter a little bit) and building all modules they can (which doesn't hurt) | Jan 12 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | maybe adjust one or two more things | Jan 12 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It matters more than you think | Jan 12 00:36 |
| MinceR | even filesystem support won't take up memory because it's built as modules and those are put into the init ramdisk | Jan 12 00:36 |
| MinceR | so only the ones you need are loaded | Jan 12 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | things like Intel "MacroFusion" won't be supported, for example | Jan 12 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | which isn't supported in 64-bit mode on Core 2 anyway, but it is on the i7 | Jan 12 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 12 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | There's two things to look out for in Ubuntu that don't apply to Debian | Jan 12 00:39 |
| MinceR | i don't have an i7 | Jan 12 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | nvidia-common will run a script on your deb file that will make it impossible to uninstall, even if you don't use Nvidia | Jan 12 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | so you need to remove nvidia-common | Jan 12 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | and AppArmor will break | Jan 12 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | who cares? | Jan 12 00:40 |
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| DaemonFC | brb | Jan 12 00:40 |
| ender2070 | hey everyone | Jan 12 00:40 |
| MinceR | what's "MacroFusion"? | Jan 12 00:40 |
| MinceR | hay ender2070 | Jan 12 00:40 |
| ender2070 | hey MinceR | Jan 12 00:41 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Assimilating #GNOME Desktop to #KDE4 : Tips http://ur1.ca/jmax http://ur1.ca/jmay | Jan 12 00:41 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Belated #Review of #OpenSolaris 2008.11 http://server.ericsbinaryworld.com/blog/2010/01/10/review-opensolaris-2008-11/ | Jan 12 00:42 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #PCLinuxOS Magazine is Out http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/42373 | Jan 12 00:42 | |
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| phIRCe-local | Title: The NEW PCLinuxOS Magazine January 2010 Issue | tuxmachines.org .::. Size~: 24.14 KB | Jan 12 00:43 |
| ender2070 | schestowitz - im making a very detailed timeline right now of anti-rms resentment | Jan 12 00:43 |
| ender2070 | I started at 1pm | Jan 12 00:43 |
| ender2070 | taking me forever, so much information to go through | Jan 12 00:43 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ZDNet Writer to Move to #GNU #Linux for a Couple of Days http://blogs.zdnet.com/igeneration/?p=3861 | Jan 12 00:44 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Live blog: Can a student go fully open source for 48 hours? | iGeneration | ZDNet.com .::. Size~: 132.4 KB | Jan 12 00:44 |
| cubezzz | that started in the mid-80's ender2070 | Jan 12 00:45 |
| MinceR | if it's zdnet then no, he can't | Jan 12 00:45 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Arch #GNU #Linux Surprises for the Better http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2010/01/11/arch-linux-makes-linux-fun-to-use-again/ | Jan 12 00:45 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Arch Linux makes Linux fun to use again. | Moved by Freedom - Powered by Standards .::. Size~: 29.81 KB | Jan 12 00:45 |
| cubezzz | if you look at google groups, you'll see RMS was called a communist shortly after he started the GNU project | Jan 12 00:46 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] DistroWatch Reviews #SliTaz #GNU #Linux http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20100111#feature | Jan 12 00:46 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. .::. Size~: 107.05 KB | Jan 12 00:46 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Frugalware 1.2 Pre 2, #Pardus 2009.1 RC Released http://ur1.ca/jmbv http://ur1.ca/jmbw | Jan 12 00:47 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Frugalware Linux - Let's make things Frugal! .::. Size~: 12.87 KB | Jan 12 00:47 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Debian Founding Explored http://doctormo.wordpress.com/2010/01/10/the-debian-pennybox/ | Jan 12 00:48 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The Debian Pennybox « DoctorMO's Blog .::. Size~: 26.19 KB | Jan 12 00:48 |
| cubezzz | funny how people don't call wikipedia "communist" but RMS gets called communist | Jan 12 00:49 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu Runs on Marvell #EBOX http://ur1.ca/jmc1 devices, devices, devices... | Jan 12 00:49 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Mystery Marvell EBOX is tiny, runs Ubuntu, 1080p video .::. Size~: 24.73 KB | Jan 12 00:49 |
| phIRCe-local | version phirce !say something | Jan 12 00:50 |
| trmanco | :O | Jan 12 00:50 |
| phIRCe-local | version phirce !say test | Jan 12 00:50 |
| ender2070 | cubezzz - and im only going from the angle of it having started since the mono issue was brought up | Jan 12 00:50 |
| trmanco | this is strange | Jan 12 00:50 |
| trmanco | !version phirce | Jan 12 00:51 |
| ender2070 | cubezzz - misinformation and attack articles increased significantly after he did this | Jan 12 00:51 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #LiMo -based ( #Linux ) #Phones Appear in CES 2010 http://bit.ly/8wkufJ | Jan 12 00:51 | |
| ender2070 | ms has lots of friends and apologists | Jan 12 00:51 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Hands-on the ELSE Linux smartphone at CES 2010 .::. Size~: 60.76 KB | Jan 12 00:52 |
| ender2070 | according to the timeline, its interesting to note that they brought out the community promise 1 day after he publicly said mono is dangerous | Jan 12 00:52 |
| cubezzz | I'd say it's also interesting that RMS starts in 1984 (approximately) and it takes ten years to get to Linux 1.0 | Jan 12 00:53 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 12 00:53 |
| cubezzz | or maybe that's fast | Jan 12 00:53 |
| ender2070 | where is hurd 1.0 | Jan 12 00:53 |
| ender2070 | heh ;) | Jan 12 00:53 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More #Android / #Linux #Tablets Coming from HP http://ur1.ca/jmc4 also see [News] More Android/Linux Tablets Coming from HP | Jan 12 00:53 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: H.P. Working on Half-Pint Android Tablet - Bits Blog - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 78.97 KB | Jan 12 00:53 |
| cubezzz | something simple that works trumps "pie in the sky" ideas | Jan 12 00:54 |
| cubezzz | and look what we had since 1982->199? | Jan 12 00:54 |
| cubezzz | MS DOS? | Jan 12 00:54 |
| ender2070 | yeah | Jan 12 00:54 |
| cubezzz | I admit Commodore DOS (before AmigaDOS) was kind of crap | Jan 12 00:55 |
| schestowitz | [00:29] <MinceR> crApple optimizes things? | Jan 12 00:55 |
| schestowitz | Yes, reducing # of buttons of mouse for exampe, culling options | Jan 12 00:55 |
| schestowitz | Less is more | Jan 12 00:55 |
| schestowitz | Less also costs more | Jan 12 00:56 |
| cubezzz | Less costs more? | Jan 12 00:56 |
| cubezzz | that sounds illogical :) | Jan 12 00:56 |
| schestowitz | [00:43] <ender2070> schestowitz - im making a very detailed timeline right now of anti-rms resentment | Jan 12 00:56 |
| schestowitz | It should also show where it comes FROM | Jan 12 00:57 |
| cubezzz | it's comes from the US idea that everything should be for pay | Jan 12 00:57 |
| cubezzz | socialist systems are "bad" | Jan 12 00:57 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: Miguel just got MVP | Jan 12 00:58 |
| schestowitz | I assumed you saw that | Jan 12 00:58 |
| ender2070 | schestowitz - its extremely long of a timeline and I include every single source I can remember/find | Jan 12 00:58 |
| ender2070 | goes from june to current | Jan 12 00:58 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: nice | Jan 12 00:58 |
| schestowitz | Oh. | Jan 12 00:58 |
| schestowitz | I though years back | Jan 12 00:58 |
| *MinceR misses the keyboard from these new linux smartphones | Jan 12 00:58 | |
| schestowitz | Like when COmpTIA (Microsoft front group) attacked him in 2007 | Jan 12 00:59 |
| schestowitz | You should show where it systematically comes from | Jan 12 00:59 |
| cubezzz | you would think Canada would naturally use FOSS more than it does | Jan 12 00:59 |
| ender2070 | im going from the angle of the increased hostility since he said mono might be dangerous | Jan 12 00:59 |
| schestowitz | Theo de Raadt too | Jan 12 00:59 |
| ender2070 | cubezzz - i think someone was going to sue the quebec government for not buying solutions locally and by giving money to a foreign company (microsoft) | Jan 12 00:59 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Jan 12 01:00 |
| schestowitz | August 2008 | Jan 12 01:00 |
| schestowitz | Gates funds the CA government | Jan 12 01:00 |
| schestowitz | $2 bn | Jan 12 01:00 |
| schestowitz | He corrupts them | Jan 12 01:00 |
| schestowitz | Look it up in BN | Jan 12 01:00 |
| schestowitz | !google http://boycottnovell.com canada | Jan 12 01:01 |
| schestowitz | Oops. | Jan 12 01:01 |
| cubezzz | there was that thing Gates did with libraries too | Jan 12 01:01 |
| schestowitz | !google site:http://boycottnovell.com canada | Jan 12 01:01 |
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| cubezzz | was that world-wide or just North America? | Jan 12 01:01 |
| schestowitz | There's the story of Montgomery and his lab | Jan 12 01:01 |
| schestowitz | !google Montgomery canada linux lab | Jan 12 01:02 |
| phIRCe-local | [1] - Toronto high school expels Linux lab | http://www.itbusiness.ca/IT/client/en/home/News.asp%3Fid%3D39987 | Jan 12 01:02 |
| phIRCe-local | [2] - Toronto high school expels Linux lab - Page 2 | http://www.itbusiness.ca/it/client/en/Home/News.asp%3Fid%3D39987%26PageMem%3D2 | Jan 12 01:02 |
| phIRCe-local | [3] - Canadian Education | http://cdneducation.blogspot.com/ | Jan 12 01:02 |
| phIRCe-local | [4] - ITBusiness: Toronto high school expels Linux lab | CLUE | http://www.cluecan.ca/node/319 | Jan 12 01:02 |
| cubezzz | yeah I know about that one | Jan 12 01:02 |
| schestowitz | !google canada gates visa | Jan 12 01:02 |
| phIRCe-local | [1] - Northern Gate Consulting :: Canada immigration and Canadian visa. | http://www.ngimmigration.com/ | Jan 12 01:02 |
| phIRCe-local | [2] - Merchant Services Canada US Credit Card Processing PSiGate ... | http://www.psigate.com/ | Jan 12 01:02 |
| phIRCe-local | [3] - VDARE.com: 07/12/07 - Has Microsoft Found A “Temporary Worker ... | http://www.vdare.com/sanchez/070712_microsoft.htm | Jan 12 01:02 |
| phIRCe-local | [4] - Turkish Visa Information For Canada Citizens | I was in Turkey | http://www.iwasinturkey.com/visa-information/300709-turkish-visa-information-for-canada-citizens | Jan 12 01:02 |
| cubezzz | he did something with libraries too though | Jan 12 01:02 |
| schestowitz | They used Canada to blackmail their govt. | Jan 12 01:02 |
| cubezzz | we should have way more FOSS usage | Jan 12 01:03 |
| ender2070 | schestowitz - I might work on a longer time line later on, its going to take way too much time to do properly. | Jan 12 01:03 |
| cubezzz | so now we have libraries that just use Microsoft software | Jan 12 01:03 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Mr De Icaza nobody will "distort" your award. You are an MVP now. "Faux open source" what, for questioning the MVP? #microsoft | Jan 12 01:03 | |
| ender2070 | schestowitz - hes been attacked for a while, but it increased significantly since july | Jan 12 01:03 |
| ender2070 | cubezzz - brampton library has free wifi, I got my free software powered notebook here | Jan 12 01:04 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Joke: what does Microsoft call a "Linux lab"? "Cancer research" | Jan 12 01:04 | |
| cubezzz | does the brampton library use FOSS at all? | Jan 12 01:05 |
| ender2070 | cubezzz - probably on the servers/backend | Jan 12 01:05 |
| ender2070 | cubezzz - they used to have a dialup bbs/telnet system | Jan 12 01:05 |
| cubezzz | oh that reminds me | Jan 12 01:05 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Funny how some will prempt any questions by claiming its an attack. For the record Mr De Icaza having an MVP matters not. It makes sense. | Jan 12 01:05 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] And sincerely Mr Icaza, the best of luck to you. Will it change anything for anyone else? No of course not. Why do you think it will? | Jan 12 01:05 | |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, you might find this interesting | Jan 12 01:05 |
| cubezzz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_(videotex_service) | Jan 12 01:06 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Alex (videotex service) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 20.68 KB | Jan 12 01:06 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @_goblin Mr De Icaza nobody will "distort" your award. You are an MVP now. "Faux open source" what, for questioning the MVP? | Jan 12 01:09 | |
| _goblin_ | Mr De Icaza has tried the clever trick of trying to pre-empt any questions about the MVP..... | Jan 12 01:10 |
| ender2070 | oh I was derailed for a little bit | Jan 12 01:10 |
| ender2070 | whats this about the MVP | Jan 12 01:10 |
| _goblin_ | he doesn't seem to realise that it matters not.... | Jan 12 01:11 |
| MinceR | icaza took another step toward securing his coveted job at m$ | Jan 12 01:11 |
| _goblin_ | nothings changed for everyone else... | Jan 12 01:11 |
| MinceR | i think it does matter | Jan 12 01:11 |
| _goblin_ | really? | Jan 12 01:11 |
| _goblin_ | only for his CV | Jan 12 01:11 |
| MinceR | it makes it more obvious that that clown is a m$ slave | Jan 12 01:11 |
| cubezzz | it's sad mostly | Jan 12 01:11 |
| _goblin_ | but then you only had to look at his praise of MS tech to draw that conclusion | Jan 12 01:11 |
| _goblin_ | it stands out like a sore thumb..., | Jan 12 01:12 |
| MinceR | the more m$ logos he gets branded on himself the more clearly visible it becomes that he's an enemy | Jan 12 01:12 |
| cubezzz | either that or he's trying for the impossible: To become a FOSS Microsoft person | Jan 12 01:12 |
| _goblin_ | he can claim faux all he wants, I am challenging his pro MS tech stance. | Jan 12 01:12 |
| _goblin_ | sort of like a Tony Blair in the FOSS/MS world? | Jan 12 01:12 |
| _goblin_ | good god | Jan 12 01:12 |
| _goblin_ | I think that MS have pulled quite a good stroke here. | Jan 12 01:13 |
| _goblin_ | look at the issue MONO causes.....recently its all died down.... | Jan 12 01:13 |
| MinceR | i don't know blair's performance so well outside that he (used to?) lead a police state and that he happily violated laws to jump into a war started by the USA | Jan 12 01:13 |
| _goblin_ | give Icaza a MVP and you can disrupt things again. | Jan 12 01:13 |
| _goblin_ | that could be a reason. | Jan 12 01:14 |
| MinceR | i don't see how it would serve m$'s agenda | Jan 12 01:14 |
| _goblin_ | Disruption, infighting, segregation ---- Having said that, Im not giving the lurkers here any ammo to suggest that either I care or Im bothered... | Jan 12 01:15 |
| MinceR | i think his position and agenda is already clear | Jan 12 01:15 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FFII Warns About #ACTA -related Agreements (Policy Whitewash/Laundry) http://ur1.ca/jmdm | Jan 12 01:15 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: FFII: EU Trade Agreement with Korea Endangers Developers / News / Online / Home - Ubuntu User .::. Size~: 24.69 KB | Jan 12 01:15 |
| MinceR | so i don't expect a lot of drama coming from this | Jan 12 01:16 |
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| _goblin_ | Good luck to Mr De Icaza if he did get a job with Microsoft I think he would certainly make a better job of it than some. On all the occassions Ive spoken with him, he seems polite. | Jan 12 01:16 |
| MinceR | and that matters? | Jan 12 01:16 |
| cubezzz | go for the bucks! :) | Jan 12 01:16 |
| *ender2070 has quit ("Konversation terminated!") | Jan 12 01:16 | |
| _goblin_ | yeah.... | Jan 12 01:16 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: agreed | Jan 12 01:16 |
| schestowitz | No news | Jan 12 01:16 |
| schestowitz | It was bigger when he got member of board position | Jan 12 01:17 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC has MS MVP too | Jan 12 01:17 |
| _goblin_ | If you are going to be stung by the scorpion it helps if he's polite about it. | Jan 12 01:17 |
| MinceR | member of board where? codeplex? | Jan 12 01:17 |
| schestowitz | _goblin_: not always | Jan 12 01:17 |
| MinceR | i don't plan on being stung by the scorpion | Jan 12 01:17 |
| schestowitz | It's like the "I like Linux, but..." | Jan 12 01:17 |
| schestowitz | An effective saboteur needs to get inside without suspicion | Jan 12 01:18 |
| _goblin_ | I think the new one is "You are killing FOSS...." | Jan 12 01:18 |
| schestowitz | !google brian linux killing with kindness | Jan 12 01:18 |
| phIRCe-local | [1] - YouTube - Tears For Fears - Killing With Kindness | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DtBCMUyhXbOg | Jan 12 01:18 |
| phIRCe-local | [2] - YouTube - Tears for Fears-Brian Wilson Said | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DqFJ2gbNx0kg | Jan 12 01:18 |
| phIRCe-local | [3] - Brian's Profile - tribe.net | http://people.tribe.net/brian | Jan 12 01:18 |
| phIRCe-local | [4] - Red Hat makes the Qumranet SPICE protocol open source. A free ... | http://www.brianmadden.com/blogs/brianmadden/archive/2009/12/10/red-hat-makes-the-qumranet-spice-protocol-open-source-a-free-alternative-to-ica-pcoip.aspx | Jan 12 01:18 |
| cubezzz | well he hasn't managed that | Jan 12 01:18 |
| cubezzz | people are suspicious | Jan 12 01:18 |
| MinceR | i think icaza lost his chances at the 'without suspicion' part | Jan 12 01:18 |
| schestowitz | For some he still manages to soothe | Jan 12 01:18 |
| MinceR | too much m$ and mono advertising | Jan 12 01:18 |
| schestowitz | Remember we have many 'n00bs' | Jan 12 01:19 |
| MinceR | indeed, but n00bs don't make that much of an impact | Jan 12 01:19 |
| schestowitz | People who are easily impressionable, even by Silver Lie fans | Jan 12 01:19 |
| schestowitz | Low-hanging FUD | Jan 12 01:19 |
| MinceR | hm, maybe outsiders could be impressioned | Jan 12 01:19 |
| MinceR | for outsiders, being polite is an advantage for m$, thus a disadvantage for us | Jan 12 01:20 |
| MinceR | it makes them look less of a joke than ballmer makes them seem | Jan 12 01:20 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Privacy Debate Blows up http://ur1.ca/jme4 http://ur1.ca/jme5 http://ur1.ca/jme6 | Jan 12 01:21 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Italians take the 'p' to fight back against Big Brother • The Register .::. Size~: 29.96 KB | Jan 12 01:21 |
| _goblin_ | Just congratulated Mr De Icaza..... | Jan 12 01:21 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: No one wants privacy these days - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 67.87 KB | Jan 12 01:21 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Zuckerberg: 'I am a prophet' • The Register .::. Size~: 27.06 KB | Jan 12 01:21 |
| ender2070_ | lol | Jan 12 01:22 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Less #DRM = More Sales, Shows New York Times Writer http://www.boingboing.net/2010/01/11/david-pogue-tries-dr.html | Jan 12 01:24 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: David Pogue tries DRM-free ebooks, sells more books than with DRM-crippled ventures Boing Boing .::. Size~: 78.42 KB | Jan 12 01:24 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Dimdim and #Digium : #FreeSoftware Business Analyses http://ur1.ca/jmec http://ur1.ca/jmed | Jan 12 01:25 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Dimdim- The open source web conference and collaboration app. | GHABUNTU .::. Size~: 93.91 KB | Jan 12 01:25 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Asterisk World Preview: Digium Set to Dial Partners | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 47.13 KB | Jan 12 01:25 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FSFE on #FreeType License http://blogs.fsfe.org/adridg/?p=653 | Jan 12 01:26 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Licensing Chart with New Symbols http://b.smartgeek.in/explaining-free-software-licenses-with-icons | Jan 12 01:26 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The FreeType License « Bobulate .::. Size~: 14.26 KB | Jan 12 01:26 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Review of #Linux #Mint 8 on a Sub-notebooks http://www.fewt.com/2010/01/netbook-users-review-of-linux-mint-8.html | Jan 12 01:27 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: fewt@blog:~$ _: A netbook users review of Linux Mint 8 .::. Size~: 69.04 KB | Jan 12 01:27 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #MAFIAA Wins the Right to Prevent Customers from Making Backups http://ur1.ca/jmes | Jan 12 01:29 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz ... and Microsoft products can carry a little iconic representation of a goatse. | Jan 12 01:29 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Disney, Studios Win Dismissal of RealNetworks Antitrust Claims - BusinessWeek .::. Size~: 45.3 KB | Jan 12 01:29 |
| schestowitz | _goblin_: congratulate Bill Hilf too then | Jan 12 01:31 |
| schestowitz | _goblin_: it's not so hard to achieve this either | Jan 12 01:31 |
| schestowitz | You just need to sell your ethics (soul) and promote a vicious company on par at evilness with monsanto | Jan 12 01:32 |
| MinceR | (testing) http://winnie.nik.bmf.hu/mincer/filez/tmp/test1.html http://winnie.nik.bmf.hu/mincer/filez/tmp/test2.html | Jan 12 01:33 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: A Winnie honlapja .::. Size~: 14.85 KB | Jan 12 01:33 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: A Winnie honlapja .::. Size~: 14.85 KB | Jan 12 01:33 |
| MinceR | title still fails from my site :/ | Jan 12 01:33 |
| trmanco | <title> _ |_ |_ _.o </title> | Jan 12 01:33 |
| trmanco | LOL | Jan 12 01:33 |
| cubezzz | you can't prevent backups :) | Jan 12 01:33 |
| MinceR | i was hoping for a little ascii art | Jan 12 01:34 |
| trmanco | the || are suppose to appear | Jan 12 01:34 |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Remote closed the connection) | Jan 12 01:34 | |
| trmanco | the other might be stripped out | Jan 12 01:34 |
| trmanco | others* | Jan 12 01:34 |
| *DaemonFC (n=chatzill@c-69-245-224-113.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Jan 12 01:34 | |
| MinceR | i think robots.txt tells phIRCe-local to load / instead | Jan 12 01:35 |
| trmanco | yeah it does | Jan 12 01:35 |
| trmanco | that's what I was checking | Jan 12 01:35 |
| MinceR | sadly, i can't control robots.txt there | Jan 12 01:35 |
| trmanco | http://winnie.nik.bmf.hu/ | Jan 12 01:35 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: A Winnie honlapja .::. Size~: 14.85 KB | Jan 12 01:35 |
| trmanco | lol :/ | Jan 12 01:35 |
| MinceR | i'll need to get my own webserver anyway | Jan 12 01:35 |
| trmanco | I don't think it's robot.txt, but the .htaccess file | Jan 12 01:36 |
| MinceR | .htaccess would affect my web browser too | Jan 12 01:36 |
| MinceR | unless they do useragent filtering | Jan 12 01:36 |
| trmanco | I guess they do that then :-P | Jan 12 01:37 |
| trmanco | you gave me and idea | Jan 12 01:37 |
| trmanco | an* | Jan 12 01:37 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: what about Alex? | Jan 12 01:38 |
| yuhong | A little off-topic, but:: | Jan 12 01:38 |
| yuhong | http://blog.buzzflash.com/analysis/962 | Jan 12 01:38 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: John Mackey Tarnishes Whole Foods' Rep Once Again, But This Time He's Relying on Stupidity, Not Libertarianism | BuzzFlash.org .::. Size~: 41.97 KB | Jan 12 01:38 |
| yuhong | Clue: Look at the words in the quote that was NOT highlighted. | Jan 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | yuhong: I have some more coming on Monsanto | Jan 12 01:39 |
| schestowitz | But it's too OT for us | Jan 12 01:39 |
| schestowitz | I'm putting vids in daily Links | Jan 12 01:39 |
| *schestowitz does some blog posts | Jan 12 01:39 | |
| yuhong | Yep, Mercola has written a lot about the evils of that companies. | Jan 12 01:40 |
| _goblin_ | schestowitz: Before I go I think I need to say this. The award received changes nothing. For some it may reinforce a view that Mr Icaza is pro-MS, but whatever the truth, this award could play right into the hands of LinXXX et al. People will look to use the award as proof that those with an argument against Mono are vindictive and wrong. I say congratulate him and let the MVP speak for itself. People can make their own m | Jan 12 01:40 |
| _goblin_ | ind up. | Jan 12 01:40 |
| MinceR | well, it's easier for us to prove that icaza is furthering m$'s agenda | Jan 12 01:40 |
| _goblin_ | but then the fact he has recieved an MVP could speak for itself then..... Don't be the one to push it (IMO) | Jan 12 01:41 |
| _goblin_ | this could be dangerous and an easy victory for those who want to cheapen the view that maybe there is something wrong with the detractors to Mono. | Jan 12 01:41 |
| yuhong | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19718742/ | Jan 12 01:41 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Whole Foods CEO attacked rival online - U.S. business- msnbc.com .::. Size~: 52.77 KB | Jan 12 01:41 |
| trmanco | http://trmanco.co.cc/test/ascii1.html | Jan 12 01:41 |
| _goblin_ | Its what I'd do if I was fighting the MS corner. | Jan 12 01:42 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Error processing the URL: .::. Size~: 0 KB | Jan 12 01:42 |
| trmanco | lol | Jan 12 01:42 |
| yuhong | To be honest, Mackey has done some real bad things. | Jan 12 01:42 |
| trmanco | it timed out :/ | Jan 12 01:42 |
| yuhong | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19718742/ | Jan 12 01:42 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 NotFound .::. Size~: 0 KB | Jan 12 01:42 |
| trmanco | http://trmanco.co.cc/test/ascii1.html | Jan 12 01:43 |
| schestowitz | I can't denounce Miguel. I would only lead to stupid infighting that benefits Microsoft. | Jan 12 01:43 |
| trmanco | :/ | Jan 12 01:43 |
| schestowitz | I guess I'll just point out the fact | Jan 12 01:43 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden .::. Size~: 0 KB | Jan 12 01:43 |
| schestowitz | People should not trust him, that's all | Jan 12 01:43 |
| trmanco | wtf | Jan 12 01:43 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: it's not infighting if it's against icaza | Jan 12 01:43 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: icaza isn't 'in' | Jan 12 01:43 |
| _goblin_ | Please everyone just think about what I said. If this was something I was fighting in court, I could destroy the counter to Mono. | Jan 12 01:43 |
| yuhong | Here is another link: | Jan 12 01:44 |
| yuhong | http://principledprofit.com/good-business-blog/whole-foods-john-mackeys-sneak-attack-on-rival-wild-oats/2007/07/13/ | Jan 12 01:44 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Whole Foods John Mackeys Sneak Attack on Rival Wild Oats .::. Size~: 59.19 KB | Jan 12 01:44 |
| yuhong | http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1343153 | Jan 12 01:44 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Regulators Eye Whole Foods CEO Postings - Democratic Underground .::. Size~: 31.73 KB | Jan 12 01:44 |
| schestowitz | yuhong: thanks! | Jan 12 01:44 |
| MinceR | trmanco: Server Not Found | Jan 12 01:44 |
| trmanco | I can find it :/ | Jan 12 01:45 |
| _goblin_ | anyway, good night all.... | Jan 12 01:45 |
| MinceR | DNS issue? | Jan 12 01:45 |
| MinceR | or routing issue? | Jan 12 01:45 |
| *_goblin_ has quit ("Ex-Chat") | Jan 12 01:45 | |
| *MinceR investigates | Jan 12 01:45 | |
| yuhong | At least the regulators caught this one. | Jan 12 01:45 |
| trmanco | lol | Jan 12 01:45 |
| MinceR | looks like a DNS issue | Jan 12 01:45 |
| trmanco | there goes my ascii experiment | Jan 12 01:45 |
| *MinceR tries it across CoralCDN | Jan 12 01:46 | |
| MinceR | s/across/through/ | Jan 12 01:46 |
| MinceR | works that way | Jan 12 01:46 |
| yuhong | http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/12/business/12foods.html | Jan 12 01:46 |
| MinceR | http://trmanco.co.cc.nyud.net/test/ascii1.html | Jan 12 01:46 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The New York Times > Log In .::. Size~: 9.53 KB | Jan 12 01:46 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Error processing the URL: .::. Size~: 0 KB | Jan 12 01:46 |
| MinceR | doesn't like the url anyway | Jan 12 01:46 |
| trmanco | nyud? | Jan 12 01:46 |
| ender2070_ | http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=561 | Jan 12 01:47 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Pwnage.ca » Alternate Time-lines .::. Size~: 31.84 KB | Jan 12 01:47 |
| MinceR | the CoralCDN domain for cache access | Jan 12 01:47 |
| MinceR | i don't know why it's nyud | Jan 12 01:47 |
| trmanco | hmm | Jan 12 01:47 |
| trmanco | anyway, my experiment won't work, because it strips the whitespace :/ | Jan 12 01:48 |
| MinceR | i thought it doesn't | Jan 12 01:49 |
| MinceR | (see inquirer titles) | Jan 12 01:49 |
| trmanco | those are strange title | Jan 12 01:49 |
| trmanco | see the youtube ones or the guardian ones | Jan 12 01:49 |
| trmanco | titles* | Jan 12 01:49 |
| ender2070_ | I have to go, I hope you guys enjoy that :D | Jan 12 01:50 |
| ender2070_ | library is closing | Jan 12 01:50 |
| ender2070_ | later | Jan 12 01:50 |
| trmanco | later | Jan 12 01:50 |
| trmanco | http://www.theinquirer.net/ | Jan 12 01:50 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: THE INQUIRER - Microprocessor, Server, Memory, PCS, Graphics, Networking, Storage .::. Size~: 55.4 KB | Jan 12 01:50 |
| trmanco | LOL | Jan 12 01:50 |
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| yuhong | http://boycottnovell.com/2010/01/11/ooxml-depending-on-country/ | Jan 12 01:51 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft OOXML Gets Fragmented Based on Geography | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 90.63 KB | Jan 12 01:51 |
| trmanco | is there some tool to show me the invisible chars from some pasted text? | Jan 12 01:51 |
| yuhong | Microsoft *OOXML* Gets Fragmented | Jan 12 01:51 |
| MinceR | gvim, i guess | Jan 12 01:52 |
| yuhong | Really? | Jan 12 01:52 |
| MinceR | iirc there was a command to show the codes of the character under the cursor | Jan 12 01:52 |
| MinceR | also, if you can paste into KHexEdit or Okteta... | Jan 12 01:52 |
| schestowitz | tessier: there's caching still on wp-admin* | Jan 12 01:52 |
| trmanco | cool | Jan 12 01:52 |
| trmanco | didn't know about okteta | Jan 12 01:52 |
| yuhong | I'd say some thing like "Microsoft Office Gets Fragmented Thanks to Software Patents" | Jan 12 01:53 |
| yuhong | This is not new, BTW. | Jan 12 01:54 |
| yuhong | Remember the difference between 40-bit vs 128-bit encryption in browsers. | Jan 12 01:54 |
| yuhong | Remember the difference between 40-bit vs 128-bit encryption in browsers? | Jan 12 01:54 |
| MinceR | is ooxml not covered by "xml functionality"? | Jan 12 01:54 |
| yuhong | Thanks to US export rules. | Jan 12 01:55 |
| MinceR | does m$ not claim that ooxml is a "standard"? | Jan 12 01:55 |
| yuhong | Yes | Jan 12 01:55 |
| trmanco | MinceR: it's 0x20 | Jan 12 01:55 |
| MinceR | trmanco: plain old space, then :) | Jan 12 01:55 |
| yuhong | The difference is that a feature of it is disabled. | Jan 12 01:55 |
| trmanco | I don't get it why it won't stripe it out :/ | Jan 12 01:55 |
| trmanco | strip* | Jan 12 01:55 |
| MinceR | trmanco: look at the html source, maybe there's some crud there | Jan 12 01:56 |
| MinceR | or it's doctype-dependent or something | Jan 12 01:56 |
| MinceR | (depending on parser internals or something) | Jan 12 01:56 |
| MinceR | could even be due to xhtml vs. html | Jan 12 01:56 |
| yuhong | This patent only covered a specific feature of OOXML. | Jan 12 01:56 |
| tessier | schestowitz: Try now | Jan 12 01:57 |
| MinceR | yuhong: a specific feature of ooxml is part of ooxml | Jan 12 01:57 |
| trmanco | what is 0xOA | Jan 12 01:57 |
| MinceR | line feed | Jan 12 01:57 |
| yuhong | Yes. | Jan 12 01:57 |
| trmanco | then it has to be that | Jan 12 01:57 |
| trmanco | what ever it is | Jan 12 01:57 |
| trmanco | let me strip it out | Jan 12 01:57 |
| MinceR | yuhong: also, note that "standards" are generally required to be unencumbered by patents. | Jan 12 01:58 |
| yuhong | Yep. | Jan 12 01:59 |
| MinceR | this only goes to prove that ooxml is extremely shoddy. | Jan 12 01:59 |
| yuhong | Yep, I know. | Jan 12 01:59 |
| MinceR | (just like everything ever comes out of m$) | Jan 12 01:59 |
| *Balrog has quit () | Jan 12 02:00 | |
| yuhong | Yea, I still remember reading about why 802.11n took so long to make it through to final standard, and it was exactly that. | Jan 12 02:01 |
| yuhong | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/09/21/802_11n_patent_threat/ | Jan 12 02:03 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Next generation Wi-Fi mired in patent fears • The Register .::. Size~: 28.88 KB | Jan 12 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Not everything, just most | Jan 12 02:06 |
| MinceR | well, maybe a few things they didn't actually develop, only relicense | Jan 12 02:06 |
| MinceR | one or two fonts | Jan 12 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | they have actually had some things standardized that ended up benefiting everyone | Jan 12 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | not often, but it has happened | Jan 12 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | OOXML is definitely not one of those things though :) | Jan 12 02:07 |
| MinceR | what did they "standardize"? | Jan 12 02:07 |
| MinceR | computers being unreliable? :> | Jan 12 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | they've submitted some of their extensions to javascript and such for standardization | Jan 12 02:07 |
| MinceR | so they made some of the features in their shoddy browser supported by others. big deal. | Jan 12 02:08 |
| yuhong | In fact XMLHTTPRequest was created by MS that was turned into a de facto standard by Mozilla implementing it that turned out not to be too bad. | Jan 12 02:08 |
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| MinceR | which is mostly misused | Jan 12 02:08 |
| MinceR | just like most web technologies | Jan 12 02:09 |
| yuhong | Yes, but the standard itself was not too bad. | Jan 12 02:09 |
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| MinceR | so is that all you have to show for them? | Jan 12 02:10 |
| yuhong | No, I am just giving it as an example. | Jan 12 02:12 |
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| yuhong | On the other hand, some of the other ones, like FAT LFN, turned out to be dangerous. | Jan 12 02:14 |
| yuhong | This one was subject to the TomTom lawsuit. | Jan 12 02:14 |
| yuhong | And now MS is trying to patent and push exFAT. | Jan 12 02:14 |
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| MinceR | actually the XMLHTTPRequest story isn't that simple :> | Jan 12 02:18 |
| MinceR | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMLHTTPRequest | Jan 12 02:18 |
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| cubezzz | did Microsoft standardize anything used in Linux? | Jan 12 02:19 |
| cubezzz | i don't think tcp/ip or html or java was invented by Microsoft | Jan 12 02:20 |
| MinceR | i suspect that some m$ slaves/fanboys think so though :> | Jan 12 02:21 |
| cubezzz | they didn't invent anything I can think of beyond stuff for themselves | Jan 12 02:21 |
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| cubezzz | Tim Berners-Lee invented html | Jan 12 02:23 |
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| cubezzz | java from Sun obviously, xml was from W3C | Jan 12 02:25 |
| cubezzz | so it wouldn't be a stretch to say we don't need Microsoft for anything | Jan 12 02:26 |
| cubezzz | we don't use their keyboard bios, we don't use rom BASIC | Jan 12 02:27 |
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| MinceR | XMLHTTPRequest was nothing more than a RadioActiveX interface some people used from IE until Mozilla implemented it in their DOM | Jan 12 02:31 |
| MinceR | well, we use a ton of standards, so they're difficult to enumerate, but m$ isn't exactly an innovative company or one that creates usable specifications for others | Jan 12 02:32 |
| MinceR | obviously they didn't create POSIX | Jan 12 02:32 |
| cubezzz | right, that is my point | Jan 12 02:33 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Miguel de Icaza Groomed by #Microsoft with #MVP Award http://boycottnovell.com/2010/01/11/mono-for-breakfast/ | Jan 12 02:33 | |
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| cubezzz | they are more of a blight on the computing landscape and anything else | Jan 12 02:34 |
| cubezzz | and=than | Jan 12 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | Why in the hell did my coffee maker just give me a pot of lukewarm water? | Jan 12 02:34 |
| cubezzz | most coffee makers are crappy | Jan 12 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, they seem to last about a year no matter what I buy | Jan 12 02:35 |
| cubezzz | get what Subway uses | Jan 12 02:35 |
| cubezzz | a tad expensive but very good | Jan 12 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | this one is a Proctor Silex Brewstation | Jan 12 02:35 |
| cubezzz | oooooo | Jan 12 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | I think it cost like $35 | Jan 12 02:36 |
| cubezzz | ;-) | Jan 12 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Nothing quite as refreshing as a nice wam cup of water which tastes faintly of coffee | Jan 12 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 12 02:36 |
| cubezzz | I can get that from a vending machine | Jan 12 02:37 |
| MinceR | 032541 < cubezzz> so it wouldn't be a stretch to say we don't need Microsoft for anything | Jan 12 02:37 |
| cubezzz | like, if I want crap | Jan 12 02:37 |
| MinceR | we certainly don't need them for anything they didn't force on us | Jan 12 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, I may have to go down to the Huggy Bear here if this coffee pot still won't work | Jan 12 02:37 |
| MinceR | and get a bear hug? | Jan 12 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: name of the convenience store | Jan 12 02:38 |
| MinceR | "would you like a takedown with that?" | Jan 12 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | it's morphed into a deli, a discount tobacco shop, and several other things too | Jan 12 02:38 |
| cubezzz | there's convenience store close by here called "Munchies and Smokes" | Jan 12 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | very busy no matter when you go in | Jan 12 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | for some reason their day old coffee still tastes pretty good | Jan 12 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | haven't figured it out | Jan 12 02:39 |
| cubezzz | does it have bars on the windows? :) | Jan 12 02:39 |
| MinceR | gn | Jan 12 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: No | Jan 12 02:39 |
| cubezzz | later | Jan 12 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | I go there for dinner quite often too | Jan 12 02:40 |
| cubezzz | http://www.the-best-coffee-maker.com/ | Jan 12 02:40 |
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| DaemonFC | probably more than I should | Jan 12 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | fried fish, mashed potatoes and gravy, green beans | Jan 12 02:41 |
| cubezzz | doesn't sound very healthy | Jan 12 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | or sometimes instead of the mashed potatoes, I'll get potato wedges | Jan 12 02:42 |
| cubezzz | exept for the bean part :) | Jan 12 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, but it sure tastes good | Jan 12 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | fried chicken sandwich with ketchup, mustard, onion, pickle, tomato, lettuce, and mayo with potato wedges is my other favorite | Jan 12 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | lots of salt on the potato wedges | Jan 12 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | just kill them with salt | Jan 12 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | re-enact Psycho with salt packets | Jan 12 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | thats me | Jan 12 02:43 |
| cubezzz | too little salt is bad, but too much is also bad | Jan 12 02:44 |
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| DaemonFC | cubezzz: My family has always ate like this (or worse), were alcoholics, smoked, etc. | Jan 12 02:45 |
| cubezzz | hmmm | Jan 12 02:45 |
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| DaemonFC | and my grandfather lived to be 86 | Jan 12 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | and my grandmother was 83 | Jan 12 02:45 |
| cubezzz | well, some people live over 100 | Jan 12 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | on mom's side, the grandfather that lived his whole life right, didn't smoke or drink or any of that | Jan 12 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | dead at 73 | Jan 12 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure that there's vegans who get hit by a bus aged 30 | Jan 12 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | not enough, but it happens | Jan 12 02:47 |
| cubezzz | An overload of sodium (salt or sodium chloride) may cause a potassium deficiency as the sodium will be absorbed preferentially at the expense of potassium as sodium and potassium interact and are both alkali metals. | Jan 12 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, potatoes have potassium | Jan 12 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | so that's a self-canceling problem right? | Jan 12 02:47 |
| cubezzz | I'm not sure | Jan 12 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | I just don't believe in this low sodium bullshit | Jan 12 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | at least not for blood pressure | Jan 12 02:48 |
| cubezzz | Doctors have told me there's enough salt added to things than you really don't need to add any additional salt to food | Jan 12 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't have any effect on mine | Jan 12 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | I'm on blood pressure pills, and my doctor told me t owatch my salt for a while to try to control it that way | Jan 12 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | made no difference | Jan 12 02:50 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FBI / #Facebook Wants to Know Your ‘Friends’ http://boycottnovell.com/2010/01/11/facebook-privacy/ | Jan 12 02:51 | |
| DaemonFC | that's why I think the government just needs to quit telling me what I can fry things in and how much salt I can use | Jan 12 02:51 |
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| DaemonFC | if someone wants to eat junk food, let them | Jan 12 02:52 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] City of #Orlando — Like Los Angeles — is Dumping #Microsoft http://boycottnovell.com/2010/01/11/orlando-from-microsoft-to-google/ | Jan 12 03:16 | |
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| cubezzz | I think the trend is clear: A movement has started to pull away from Microsoft | Jan 12 03:23 |
| cubezzz | it should have happened a long time ago | Jan 12 03:24 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FFII : #EU 'Trade' Agreement an Attack on #FreeSoftware Developers http://boycottnovell.com/2010/01/11/ffii-on-eu-trade-agreement/ | Jan 12 03:30 | |
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| DaemonFC | cubezzz: I guess my biggest gripe is how everyone acts like you can't be a healthy weight eating normal stuff | Jan 12 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | my diet is awful and I've lost 40 pounds over the last couple of months | Jan 12 03:34 |
| cubezzz | I try to concentrate on just being healthy | Jan 12 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: There's a reason why poor people are usually fat you know | Jan 12 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | the diet that gets you fat is usually the least expensive | Jan 12 03:36 |
| cubezzz | yes | Jan 12 03:37 |
| cubezzz | it's nutrients that count | Jan 12 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | every time I see one of those things on TV tellin gyou what to eat, what to avoid, I get the idea that my grocery bill would be $400 a month if I did that | Jan 12 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | grease, white flour, and sugar are the cheapest things to use as a base | Jan 12 03:38 |
| cubezzz | I'd say you could eat on $200 per month if you cooked all your meals | Jan 12 03:39 |
| cubezzz | although perhaps grocery prices are higher where you are | Jan 12 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: I don't ever cook | Jan 12 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | you just really can't on that many things when you live alone | Jan 12 03:43 |
| DaemonFC | you always get things that are going bad | Jan 12 03:44 |
| cubezzz | yes cooking for one is harder | Jan 12 03:44 |
| cubezzz | you could concentrate on canned fruit, frozen vegetables and special containers for fresh stuff | Jan 12 03:46 |
| cubezzz | there's a special container for salad that is supposed to make it last longer | Jan 12 03:47 |
| cubezzz | pasta and rice are easy to store long term | Jan 12 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I just buy it frozen, in a can, or in a to go box | Jan 12 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | maybe I'm just too lazy :P | Jan 12 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | Pizza Hut has good take out salads | Jan 12 03:52 |
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| DaemonFC | they might not be that healthy when I'm done though | Jan 12 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: I've noticed an interesting thing about Windows Server | Jan 12 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | you have to explicitly opt into the spyware, like "Customer Experience Improvement Program" | Jan 12 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 7 just pesters the user and tries to trick them into thinking they have to | Jan 12 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | businesses don't like being railroaded into agreeing to be spied on I guess | Jan 12 04:14 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.microsoft.com/products/ceip/EN-US/default.mspx | Jan 12 04:15 |
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| DaemonFC | "Is the Customer Experience Improvement Program spyware? | Jan 12 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | No. Spyware can collect information or act on your computer without your full knowledge or consent. CEIP does not take actions other than those described in the Customer Experience Improvement Program Privacy Policy." | Jan 12 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | notice they don't mention how hard they make it to say no and it doesn't offer you an easy way to pull up that policy | Jan 12 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | I'd say it borders on being spyware at the least | Jan 12 04:17 |
| schestowitz | [01:57] <tessier> schestowitz: Try now | Jan 12 04:18 |
| schestowitz | Thanks, I'll try it | Jan 12 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | even if it doesn't send personally identifiable information, it sends a lot of stuff that would be useful to advertisers in bulk | Jan 12 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | like as statistical demographic information | Jan 12 04:18 |
| schestowitz | It's just that I 'lost' 3 posts that way... could easily recover them from preview, but still a bit scary | Jan 12 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Are there any connections between Microsoft and the Bilderburg Group? | Jan 12 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | I'm watching this Jesse Ventura conspiracy theories show, he's talking about Bilderburg | Jan 12 04:20 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, several | Jan 12 04:21 |
| schestowitz | Search BN | Jan 12 04:21 |
| schestowitz | BTW, I'm doing a very long post re Vista 7 at the moment | Jan 12 04:21 |
| schestowitz | Thousand words, I think | Jan 12 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | you might mention how much more insistent Windows 7 is than Windows Server that you sign up for all their privacy violating crap | Jan 12 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 7 is set to pester you about CEIP every 2 weeks until you sign up for it, and it greys out the "No" box just like Vista did. | Jan 12 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I think Microsoft is hoping that you either give up and say yes to make it go away, that it pops up while someone that doesn't understand it is using the computer, or that your children click yes to make it leave the screen | Jan 12 04:24 |
| cubezzz | heh | Jan 12 04:25 |
| cubezzz | yeah, like I needed more reasons to not use Microsoft | Jan 12 04:25 |
| cubezzz | I'm convinced, I'm convinced :) | Jan 12 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | they could just turn it on and shove it onto page 57 of the Windows EULA that you agree to it | Jan 12 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | someone might notice though, and bring about a scandal | Jan 12 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Someone on Coding Horror once pointed out how much of a drag on your system it is to use an antivirus program and/or Windows Defender | Jan 12 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | Norton was the worst out of all of them | Jan 12 04:28 |
| cubezzz | I believe it | Jan 12 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | oh, it was just unbelievable | Jan 12 04:28 |
| cubezzz | on Linux we have slocate | Jan 12 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000803.html | Jan 12 04:29 |
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| cubezzz | which is kind of a pain too | Jan 12 04:29 |
| cubezzz | but I've set it to run when I'm sleeping so it's not a big deal | Jan 12 04:29 |
| cubezzz | it usually chews up 20 minutes | Jan 12 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | Norton slows down your boot time by 45%, slows your CPU by 8%, and your hard disk reads and writes by 1515% | Jan 12 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | that's pretty bad, but Windows Defender slows boot down by 5%, CPU by 8%, and disk access by 54% | Jan 12 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | so both of them would be running side by side | Jan 12 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | that's why most Windows PCs are so slow | Jan 12 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | they cripple your PC worse than most malware | Jan 12 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | in fact, I'd say that I've had more problems out of antivirus programs than I've ever had out of malware | Jan 12 04:32 |
| cubezzz | imagine if you were running two virus scanners at the same time :) | Jan 12 04:32 |
| DaemonFC | Avast is TEN TIMES less of a drag than Norton | Jan 12 04:33 |
| cubezzz | yeah some of my customers use Avast | Jan 12 04:33 |
| DaemonFC | gives you an idea how bad Norton is | Jan 12 04:33 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I include your bit about your borther | Jan 12 04:33 |
| schestowitz | *SPark | Jan 12 04:33 |
| cubezzz | I think Norton basically sucks | Jan 12 04:35 |
| DaemonFC | I agree with the French government's mandate to its agencies, to reduce their dependence on software they can't audit and support themselves as much as they can | Jan 12 04:35 |
| cubezzz | pretty much all proprietary software sucks, excepting tax software | Jan 12 04:35 |
| DaemonFC | it's braindead stupid for the French government to rely on any more Microsoft software than they have to | Jan 12 04:35 |
| DaemonFC | creates a logistical nightmare, ande security hazards, and they're sending their taxpayer money out of France | Jan 12 04:36 |
| cubezzz | aren't they pulling away from Microsoft too? | Jan 12 04:36 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, a piece at a time | Jan 12 04:36 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Latest #Vista7 Failures and #Microsoft Dumping http://boycottnovell.com/2010/01/11/vista-7-microsoft-education/ | Jan 12 04:46 | |
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| schestowitz | [04:35] <cubezzz> pretty much all proprietary software sucks, excepting tax software | Jan 12 04:47 |
| schestowitz | FS devs make software for good reasons | Jan 12 04:47 |
| schestowitz | So no SAP replacement | Jan 12 04:48 |
| schestowitz | No tax software | Jan 12 04:48 |
| schestowitz | No DRM | Jan 12 04:48 |
| schestowitz | We leave the drek to Microsoft and Apple :-p | Jan 12 04:48 |
| schestowitz | FS is often about the betterment of something while challenging one's skilset | Jan 12 04:48 |
| DaemonFC | this woman said that there's an ingredient in only some of the swine flu vaccines that sterilize people | Jan 12 04:50 |
| DaemonFC | as part of a Bilderburg plot to reduce the population | Jan 12 04:50 |
| DaemonFC | meh, as long as it doesn't actually kill anyone, I'm OK with that | Jan 12 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | I took some of the earlier batch that was really meant more for children though | Jan 12 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | so were it true, I might already be sterile | Jan 12 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | not that I care | Jan 12 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | like, most people out there shouldn't be reproducing anyway | Jan 12 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | so it's hard for me to say this is a crime | Jan 12 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | does remind me of that episode of Stargate SG-1 named "2010" where the Aschen Confederation slipped everyone sterility drugs in a life-prolonging drug | Jan 12 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | the point being to wipe out most of Earth's population so they could colonize here and turn the rest of us into slaves | Jan 12 04:54 |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, I did my taxes in my browser for the last few years | Jan 12 04:55 |
| cubezzz | no problems | Jan 12 04:55 |
| cubezzz | one good thing about middleware | Jan 12 04:55 |
| schestowitz | http://kara.allthingsd.com/20100111/yahoo-will-announce-zimbra-sale-to-vmware-tomorrow-as-it-looks-over-bids-for-small-biz-unit/ | Jan 12 04:56 |
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| cubezzz | basically taxes are good, as long as they are used properly | Jan 12 04:56 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I heard this before but saw no evidence | Jan 12 04:57 |
| schestowitz | Sounds like fabricated by all means, unless they provide proof | Jan 12 04:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.rutlandherald.com/article/20100108/NEWS04/1080335/1003/NEWS02 | Jan 12 04:58 |
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| schestowitz | Wow. This is curous: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/11/google_islam_suggest/ | Jan 12 05:01 |
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| schestowitz | Is Google censoring "Suggest"? | Jan 12 05:01 |
| schestowitz | http://rawstory.com/2010/01/newly-released-nixon-papers-reveal-obsession-kennedy-hatred-art/ | Jan 12 05:02 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Newly released Nixon papers reveal obsession with Kennedy, hatred of art | Raw Story .::. Size~: 32.16 KB | Jan 12 05:02 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/DavidCornDC/status/7641690783 | Jan 12 05:04 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.techworld.com.au/article/332096/microsoft_site_crash_leaves_business_customers_limbo?fp=2&fpid=1&rid=1 | Jan 12 05:06 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Walmart is no longer having ads for XBOX 360 on TV | Jan 12 05:06 |
| DaemonFC | they've switched to pushing Wii | Jan 12 05:06 |
| DaemonFC | heavily | Jan 12 05:06 |
| DaemonFC | they also took away half of the XBOX 360 $19.99 games | Jan 12 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | gave it to Wii and Playstation 2/3 | Jan 12 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart is de-emphasizing and taking shelf space from the 360, this should be a red flag that the 360 is cooked | Jan 12 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart sees less value in selling 360 and accessories than PS3 or Wii | Jan 12 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | they've also moved XBOX 360 accessories to the very back, reduced their shelf space, and gave the position and extra space to Wii | Jan 12 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | Wii accessories are selling so fast they can barely keep them on the shelf | Jan 12 05:11 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] China-India collaboration on computer-making http://ur1.ca/jms6 | Jan 12 05:11 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I think Walmart knows what's coming. The announcement that there won't be another XBOX. That is the vibe I get from this. | Jan 12 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft won't officially talk about it until they clear their current stock and finish buying all the new consoles they're committed to | Jan 12 05:13 |
| DaemonFC | to announce it right now would destroy all remaining demand and leave them deeply discounting the millions they have left | Jan 12 05:13 |
| DaemonFC | I'd also guess that XBOX Live will shut down within a year after Microsoft announces that the 360 is the last XBOX | Jan 12 05:14 |
| DaemonFC | I believe that this will happen before the end of this year | Jan 12 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.talkxbox.com/article3578.html | Jan 12 05:17 |
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| DaemonFC | lulz | Jan 12 05:17 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/186644/aol_begins_layoffs_1200_to_1400_staffers_to_go.html?tk=rss_news | Jan 12 05:17 |
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| schestowitz | "Recession" must be over..... | Jan 12 05:17 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: AOL layoffs have been like this for at least 7 years now | Jan 12 05:18 |
| DaemonFC | I'm still waiting for AOL 20.0 Optimized with free McAfee | Jan 12 05:18 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: thanks for the info | Jan 12 05:19 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Lindows/Linspire had an AOL dialer included, licenses from AOL | Jan 12 05:20 |
| DaemonFC | it made me lol | Jan 12 05:20 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] me too !! RT @gkjohn: I want to be at #wikiwars! Must get there soon. Perhaps after lunch... | Jan 12 05:20 | |
| DaemonFC | They're not even offering severance anymore, schestowitz | Jan 12 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | "Get out or we'll pick who gets fired" | Jan 12 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I am glad for one thing about AOL, them spinning off the Mozilla Foundation with a $3 million check | Jan 12 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | that was probably the one cool thing they did | Jan 12 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | they totally fucked Winamp over | Jan 12 05:23 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/features/use-orca-to-monitor-system-performance/ | Jan 12 05:24 |
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| schestowitz | Use Orca to monitor system performance | Jan 12 05:24 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/features/use-orca-to-monitor-system-performance/ | Jan 12 05:24 |
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| DaemonFC | Winamp and its plug-ins have gotten so dependent on the 32-bit Windows API that they can't even make a 64-bit Windows version! Much less port it to Mac or Linux. | Jan 12 05:24 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: when they they get involved with the llama? | Jan 12 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | 1999 I believe | Jan 12 05:24 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they are necrophiles | Jan 12 05:25 |
| schestowitz | They pick up companies to die with | Jan 12 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | Winamp has pretty much been left to rot, schestowitz It's been at least 6 years since it got a major new feature | Jan 12 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | every release fixes a bug or two and maybe adds something minor | Jan 12 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | they don't have the staff for a major overhaul, they can't open source it because of all the NDA's they've signed and all the plug-ins they've licensed | Jan 12 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | Winamp is basically an animated corpse | Jan 12 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | it'd be nice if before AOL goes under, they open source the bits of Winamp that they actually own | Jan 12 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure that someone would come in and fill in the pieces | Jan 12 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | I've been told that when you buy the Pro version, you're just paying imaginary property licenses to the guys that license out MP3, AAC, and the Sonic ripping runtime | Jan 12 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | Winamp doesn't actually make any money off that | Jan 12 05:30 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I also discovered something pretty horrific, schestowitz | Jan 12 05:30 |
| DaemonFC | Winamp lets you tag your files with Greacenote, who slaps in a GUID into all your tags | Jan 12 05:30 |
| schestowitz | I remember downloading winamp from oldversion.com | Jan 12 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | I used Foobar 2000 to batch remove those Gracenote GUID tags | Jan 12 05:31 |
| schestowitz | Winamp was becoming too bloated | Jan 12 05:31 |
| cubezzz | mplayer ftw | Jan 12 05:31 |
| cubezzz | why bother with winanything? | Jan 12 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why they would need to GUID all my Vorbis files | Jan 12 05:31 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: amarok for me | Jan 12 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | seems suspiciously similar to iTunes bugging all your downloads | Jan 12 05:32 |
| schestowitz | Since 2007 or so | Jan 12 05:32 |
| schestowitz | I was on xmms for AGES | Jan 12 05:32 |
| schestowitz | low RAM | Jan 12 05:32 |
| cubezzz | whatever works | Jan 12 05:32 |
| schestowitz | gastremer | Jan 12 05:32 |
| schestowitz | *gstreamer | Jan 12 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: AOL's settlement with Microsoft said Microsoft paid them like $7 million in cash and AOL embedded IE in everything for 5 years | Jan 12 05:33 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] I think i am now sitting near heavy padips (mental nuts) who doesn't even care to smile :( | Jan 12 05:33 | |
| DaemonFC | the only AOL software that ever ended up using Gecko was the Mac version and a few beta releases on Windows that ended with that settlement | Jan 12 05:34 |
| cubezzz | going to write an article about command line apps soon | Jan 12 05:35 |
| DaemonFC | the death of AOL means the end of a few (obscure) IE masks | Jan 12 05:35 |
| DaemonFC | so much the better | Jan 12 05:35 |
| schestowitz | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/TIOBE-language-index-Google-s-Go-is-the-biggest-climber-900906.html | Jan 12 05:36 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: TIOBE language index: Google's Go is the biggest climber - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 30.62 KB | Jan 12 05:36 |
| schestowitz | Go-mono? :-) | Jan 12 05:36 |
| cubezzz | The H? | Jan 12 05:37 |
| cubezzz | usually "The H" means something bad :) | Jan 12 05:37 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: by July or August, IE will be under 50% at least | Jan 12 05:38 |
| DaemonFC | there's something to look for ward to | Jan 12 05:38 |
| DaemonFC | *forward | Jan 12 05:38 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] It is interesting that Google has a programming language called Go and Novell promotes Microsoft with "Go-Mono" | Jan 12 05:39 | |
| DaemonFC | When working on someone's computer, I usually bag IE and replace it with Firefox including Adblock Plus | Jan 12 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | usually they don't even complain that IE is missing | Jan 12 05:40 |
| cubezzz | IE just isn't the most appealing browser | Jan 12 05:43 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: It's still suffering from the 5 years where they didn't even work on it at all | Jan 12 05:44 |
| DaemonFC | in the mean time, other browsers were being actively developed | Jan 12 05:44 |
| DaemonFC | pretty damned funny that Bill Gates just totally dismissed Firefox during those years | Jan 12 05:45 |
| DaemonFC | even as it was starting to eat Internet Explorer alive | Jan 12 05:45 |
| DaemonFC | now other browsers account for about 45% of the market and IE is just trying to copy Firefox | Jan 12 05:46 |
| cubezzz | Gates is out of the picture now | Jan 12 05:46 |
| DaemonFC | you can't ever catch up if all you do is copy | Jan 12 05:46 |
| cubezzz | besides, he doesn't do the real work | Jan 12 05:46 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know, Altair Basic was pretty lean and mean | Jan 12 05:47 |
| cubezzz | stolen | Jan 12 05:47 |
| DaemonFC | probably the only thing Microsoft ever did that was | Jan 12 05:47 |
| cubezzz | from the dumpster | Jan 12 05:47 |
| cubezzz | and developed using stolen computer time | Jan 12 05:47 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: Windows and Office too.... 5 years no developmen. | Jan 12 05:48 |
| DaemonFC | stolen computer time | Jan 12 05:48 |
| cubezzz | yes | Jan 12 05:48 |
| DaemonFC | you sound like those assholes saying "stolen music" | Jan 12 05:48 |
| cubezzz | to write the 8080 emulator | Jan 12 05:48 |
| schestowitz | [05:46] <cubezzz> Gates is out of the picture now | Jan 12 05:48 |
| schestowitz | Haha. | Jan 12 05:48 |
| schestowitz | No. | Jan 12 05:48 |
| DaemonFC | No, Gates is behind the scenes, instructing Darth Ballmer | Jan 12 05:48 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 12 05:48 |
| schestowitz | [05:48] <DaemonFC> you sound like those assholes saying "stolen music" | Jan 12 05:49 |
| cubezzz | well, it's documented Gates and 3 others used hacks to get inordinate amounts of computer time | Jan 12 05:49 |
| schestowitz | "Pirated"? | Jan 12 05:49 |
| schestowitz | Can pirated be used as an adjective? | Jan 12 05:49 |
| cubezzz | well what do you call computer time you didn't pay for? | Jan 12 05:49 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: They say "pirated" more often, but they also call it theft or stealing | Jan 12 05:49 |
| DaemonFC | you can steal a bicycle | Jan 12 05:49 |
| schestowitz | Piratification | Jan 12 05:49 |
| DaemonFC | you can steal a car | Jan 12 05:49 |
| schestowitz | Piratism | Jan 12 05:50 |
| DaemonFC | you cannot steal an MP3 | Jan 12 05:50 |
| cubezzz | I'm not even talking about mp3 | Jan 12 05:50 |
| DaemonFC | you can copy an mp3 without a license, it's not theft though | Jan 12 05:50 |
| cubezzz | if I hacked into Rogers to get free cable what would you call me? | Jan 12 05:50 |
| DaemonFC | theft is a crime, unlicensed copies are a civil suit | Jan 12 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | selling copies is a crime though | Jan 12 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | but not just taking one for personal use | Jan 12 05:51 |
| *schestowitz steals DaemonFC's thunder | Jan 12 05:51 | |
| cubezzz | "One of these systems was a PDP-10 belonging to Computer Center Corporation (CCC), which banned four Lakeside students—Gates, Paul Allen, Ric Weiland, and Kent Evans—for the summer after it caught them exploiting bugs in the operating system to obtain free computer time." | Jan 12 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: There was a guy in Fort Wayne a few months ago that was selling "bootleg CDs" | Jan 12 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | the cops arrested him | Jan 12 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | took his computer as evidence | Jan 12 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | they couldn't do that if he just had unlicensed copies for personal use | Jan 12 05:52 |
| schestowitz | They should tka just the hard drive | Jan 12 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | the record company could sue him | Jan 12 05:52 |
| schestowitz | Plastic companies | Jan 12 05:53 |
| schestowitz | Weid business they have there. | Jan 12 05:53 |
| cubezzz | they could make an argument for counterfeiting | Jan 12 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | I don't use the word "piracy", I usually just say unlicensed copy | Jan 12 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | cause that's what it is | Jan 12 05:53 |
| cubezzz | ok, but if I steal computer time.... I'm not using an "unlicensed copy" | Jan 12 05:54 |
| cubezzz | it doesn't make any sense | Jan 12 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft and the MAFIAA want to blur criminal law with civil law | Jan 12 05:54 |
| cubezzz | anyways | Jan 12 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | don't want you to know they are different things | Jan 12 05:54 |
| cubezzz | just pointing out the hypocrisy | Jan 12 05:54 |
| cubezzz | people need to know that Gates got ahead using dirty tricks | Jan 12 05:55 |
| DaemonFC | They want to make it sound like me downloading Metallica MP3s would be a big federal felony or something | Jan 12 05:55 |
| DaemonFC | makes it more dramatic | Jan 12 05:55 |
| DaemonFC | they don't want you to know that even if you lose their lawsuit, you can file bankruptcy | Jan 12 05:56 |
| cubezzz | musicians make money from concerts | Jan 12 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | and that's the end of it | Jan 12 05:56 |
| cubezzz | or t-shirt deals | Jan 12 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | no prison, no probation | Jan 12 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | file bankruptcy and it's done | Jan 12 05:56 |
| cubezzz | I buy music cards btw | Jan 12 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | It's why I would refuse to sign any settlement with them and just let the jury do whatever they were going to do with me | Jan 12 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | I'd immediately file bankruptcy after that | Jan 12 05:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=20090202001655344 | Jan 12 05:57 |
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| schestowitz | gn | Jan 12 06:06 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @vinaysreenivasa: interesting article exploring protests in india - Anatomy of protest http://bit.ly/7QJGHU | Jan 12 06:33 | |
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| cubezzz | ok new article: | Jan 12 06:51 |
| cubezzz | http://maxhost.org/blog/linux-blog.html | Jan 12 06:51 |
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| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Get this | Jan 12 07:29 |
| DaemonFC | CD burner needs elevated to see the drive on Windows Server | Jan 12 07:29 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft includes CD burner software | Jan 12 07:29 |
| DaemonFC | doesn't set it to ask for elevation | Jan 12 07:29 |
| DaemonFC | it can't see your drives | Jan 12 07:29 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @MadanRao: WikiMedia Foundation is looking for inputs into what to do for India #WikiWars Focus on devel... http://strategy.wikimedia.org | Jan 12 07:50 | |
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| DaemonFC | gah | Jan 12 08:12 |
| DaemonFC | of all the stupid things to deny user access to | Jan 12 08:12 |
| DaemonFC | "I got hacked and they burned a CD!" | Jan 12 08:12 |
| DaemonFC | the horror! | Jan 12 08:13 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Joseph Stiglitz on patents, patent thickets, patent monopolies, patents as a tax, and so on: http://i5.be/ahF | Jan 12 08:34 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] I earned the Addon Adhesive sticker on #GetGlue! http://bit.ly/8cKRN1 | Jan 12 09:12 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] accidental visit of some relatives killed my participation in #wikiwar today. Hope i can join tomorrow | Jan 12 09:29 | |
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| *DaemonFC face palms | Jan 12 09:38 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Bernd LANGE MEP asked a question about ACTA transparency in INTA on hearing of Commissioners candidates: http://i5.be/ahK | Jan 12 10:39 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Caroline Lucas MEP (Greens) with a question on transparency of ACTA again, question about the Lisbon treaty: http://i5.be/ahK | Jan 12 10:53 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Karel DeGucht says the Lisbon Treaty article on Parliament´s full information (access to the drafts) does not apply in case of ACTA | Jan 12 10:58 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2010/0111/Sarah-Palin-and-Fox-News-a-match-made-in-heaven | Jan 12 11:06 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/home/2010/01/ungritted-pavements-a-telling-example-of-our-bureaucrats-mistaking-their-role-and-duty-in-society.html | Jan 12 11:10 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Karel DeGucht says the Lisbon Treaty will only works if we respect what is in it. I would say especially the access of Parliament on ACTA | Jan 12 11:16 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.krebsonsecurity.com/2010/01/firm-to-release-database-web-server-0days/ | Jan 12 11:25 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Karel DeGucht refuses Parliament´s access of documents of the Council committee 13, the one in charge of ACTA | Jan 12 11:27 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] The committee 133 take important decisions relating to international trade issues such as the banana dispute http://i5.be/ahM | Jan 12 11:29 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Karel DeGucht refuses Parliament´s access of documents of the Council committee 133, the one in charge of ACTA | Jan 12 11:29 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] thinking of buying new PC. Anyone any experience with ATI Radeon 4670? Not an extreme gamer but would like to decently enjoy a few games | Jan 12 11:38 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] if she can do it, you can do it too http://bit.ly/5Ny5yF | Jan 12 11:43 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Stiglitz says the patent thicket and lawsuits in the software sector shows the failure of the system to promote innovation: http://i5.be/ahN | Jan 12 11:55 | |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: ping | Jan 12 12:08 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: could you pls pls pls oggify this one? | Jan 12 12:08 |
| schestowitz | http://techie-buzz.com/opensource/california-goes-open-source.html | Jan 12 12:11 |
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| schestowitz | Is there a way to prevent an iframe from stealing focus on pageload? | Jan 12 12:29 |
| schestowitz | It seems like a Firefox issue | Jan 12 12:30 |
| schestowitz | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=238824 | Jan 12 12:32 |
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| safruhani | hi fellows, does gnome project leaves the GNU? | Jan 12 12:40 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Infosys awaits nod for 219 patent applications in India, US: http://i5.be/ahO | Jan 12 12:41 | |
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| schestowitz | http://codingforums.com/showthread.php?t=157166 | Jan 12 12:41 |
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| schestowitz | safruhani: nope | Jan 12 12:41 |
| safruhani | schestowitz: do you know about an election about leaving GNU? | Jan 12 12:42 |
| schestowitz | Na..... I give on on this..... http://forums.asp.net/p/1013770/1360146.aspx | Jan 12 12:45 |
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| schestowitz | safruhani: I think Save deferred it permanently | Jan 12 12:46 |
| schestowitz | It's just the anti-RMS crowd looking for trouble | Jan 12 12:46 |
| schestowitz | hMmmmm.... | Jan 12 12:50 |
| schestowitz | Refactor window blur/focus code in order to allow windows to receive | Jan 12 12:50 |
| schestowitz | notification of window... blur/focus, allowing the next position line to | Jan 12 12:50 |
| schestowitz | move when someone alt+tabs. | Jan 12 12:50 |
| schestowitz | http://github.com/defunkt/qwebirc/commits/master | Jan 12 12:50 |
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| schestowitz | http://bitbucket.org/sebde/qwebirc/src/98258b4de558/qwebirc/ | Jan 12 12:52 |
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| schestowitz | nm, I give up | Jan 12 12:52 |
| schestowitz | They give no option for preventing of focus stealking | Jan 12 12:52 |
| schestowitz | *ling | Jan 12 12:52 |
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| cholerose1985 | DO U KNOW WHERE TO FIND SOFTWEAR FOR MAKING THEMES | Jan 12 12:55 |
| cholerose1985 | FOR ANDROID? | Jan 12 12:55 |
| schestowitz | Did you search for it? | Jan 12 12:57 |
| schestowitz | !google software theme android development | Jan 12 12:57 |
| phIRCe-local | [1] - xda-developers - Powered by vBulletin | http://forum.xda-developers.com/ | Jan 12 12:57 |
| phIRCe-local | [2] - Google Android Development | Outsource Android Development ... | http://www.indianic.com/what-is-google-android-and-android-market.html | Jan 12 12:57 |
| phIRCe-local | [3] - Android Mobile Application Development, Google Android Software ... | http://www.iphoneapplicationdevelopmentindia.com/android-mobile-application-development.html | Jan 12 12:57 |
| phIRCe-local | [4] - How-to Android Theme Development - PinStack.com | http://forums.pinstack.com/f235/how_to_android_theme_development-98829/ | Jan 12 12:57 |
| cholerose1985 | YES I COULDNT FIND ANYTHING AND I JUST GOT A JOB MAKING THEMES BUT I NEED HELPP TO FIND THE PROGRAM TO USE WHEN MAKING OPEN HOME THEMS | Jan 12 12:59 |
| cholerose1985 | I KNOW HOW TO DO IT BUT CANT FIND THE SOFTWEAR CAN YOU HELP ME? | Jan 12 13:01 |
| cholerose1985 | PREETY PLEASE | Jan 12 13:01 |
| oiaohm | California is very forward looking schestowitz | Jan 12 13:02 |
| oiaohm | California support an australian solor power generation company that cannot get funding here. | Jan 12 13:03 |
| cholerose1985 | HUH? | Jan 12 13:03 |
| schestowitz | They provide no documentation here... http://qwebirc.org/download | Jan 12 13:03 |
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| cholerose1985 | DOES ANYONE KNOW THE PROGRAM I NEED TO MAKE THEMES FOR ANDROID AND THE WEBSITE TO DOWNLOAD IT? | Jan 12 13:03 |
| schestowitz | cholerose1985: did you ask android developers? | Jan 12 13:04 |
| schestowitz | They also have an SDK | Jan 12 13:04 |
| cholerose1985 | - the qwebirc project IS THIS THE PROGRAM I NEED | Jan 12 13:04 |
| schestowitz | cholerose1985: no | Jan 12 13:04 |
| schestowitz | It's just something I try to sort out | Jan 12 13:04 |
| schestowitz | They have some code that causes issues to me | Jan 12 13:04 |
| cholerose1985 | NO NO WAY TO CONTAACT THEM NO NUMBER | Jan 12 13:04 |
| schestowitz | And I run it on a server I don't control, so I can't hack on the code either | Jan 12 13:05 |
| schestowitz | cholerose1985: please NO CAPS | Jan 12 13:05 |
| cholerose1985 | WHATS A SDK? | Jan 12 13:05 |
| cholerose1985 | sorry | Jan 12 13:05 |
| schestowitz | Software Development Kit | Jan 12 13:05 |
| cholerose1985 | where do i find that | Jan 12 13:05 |
| oiaohm | cholerose1985: http://developerlife.com/tutorials/?p=309 | Jan 12 13:05 |
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| oiaohm | Many places. | Jan 12 13:05 |
| oiaohm | All android theme files are XML files. | Jan 12 13:06 |
| oiaohm | Far safer than MS theme files that can raw edit registry keys. | Jan 12 13:06 |
| cholerose1985 | see someone gave me a lind to make themes it like a theme maker but it wont send me my email so i can acess my new acount | Jan 12 13:06 |
| cholerose1985 | like a verafacation email it says it sent it but i never get it in my email account | Jan 12 13:07 |
| cholerose1985 | i wish there was just a theme builder program i could download android gave me 72 hours to build a them and i cant find not program to get the job | Jan 12 13:08 |
| oiaohm | I did not know that a android theme builder existed yet. | Jan 12 13:08 |
| oiaohm | I was still doing my the old manual way. | Jan 12 13:08 |
| schestowitz | I'll ask them in IRC | Jan 12 13:09 |
| schestowitz | cholerose1985: take an existing theme, modify around its skeleton maybe | Jan 12 13:09 |
| schestowitz | It it's an xml thing, then you just need to replace the images | Jan 12 13:10 |
| schestowitz | Same thing I did when creating 2 Firefox themes in 2005 | Jan 12 13:10 |
| cholerose1985 | well what program did u use to make ur old stle thems/ | Jan 12 13:10 |
| cholerose1985 | i can give you the link to the theme builder for open home ahome and panda home if u want it does everything for u but i cant get it to send the email so i can verifiy my account | Jan 12 13:11 |
| schestowitz | http://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/selling-exceptions | Jan 12 13:12 |
| oiaohm | http://developerlife.com/tutorials/?p=309 kate basically any editor with XML syntax highlighter is all I have been using. cholerose1985 | Jan 12 13:12 |
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| cholerose1985 | i would but iam stuck cuz it wont send the email to my google account so i can start programing here try it | Jan 12 13:12 |
| oiaohm | Same kind of editor I use for editing webpages manually cholerose1985 | Jan 12 13:12 |
| schestowitz | cholerose1985: why would it discriminate vs gmail? | Jan 12 13:13 |
| cholerose1985 | idk is there anyway i could give u my cell number and you could walk my through this | Jan 12 13:13 |
| cholerose1985 | it says it sent the email but never does so i cant use it here the link | Jan 12 13:14 |
| cholerose1985 | http://home.pandaapp.com:888/ | Jan 12 13:15 |
| cholerose1985 | there it is | Jan 12 13:15 |
| cholerose1985 | try it | Jan 12 13:15 |
| schestowitz | http://www.junauza.com/2010/01/backflip-motorolas-innovative-android.html | Jan 12 13:16 |
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| cholerose1985 | basically a theme builder for home replacements | Jan 12 13:16 |
| cholerose1985 | whats that | Jan 12 13:16 |
| cholerose1985 | link u wrote | Jan 12 13:17 |
| schestowitz | home as in main page? | Jan 12 13:17 |
| schestowitz | I reckon you could get an existing theme, open the xml file/s, add your desired graphics | Jan 12 13:17 |
| cholerose1985 | like home alternative on android phones | Jan 12 13:17 |
| schestowitz | I don't think you need a "builder" per se | Jan 12 13:17 |
| schestowitz | But I never programmed for the Android, so I don't know | Jan 12 13:17 |
| schestowitz | It ought to be similar to Firefox themes.... pixmaps and indexed of them (file maps) | Jan 12 13:18 |
| cholerose1985 | ya to change the icons and colors and stuff cuz i dont know all the code things to change to do it manually | Jan 12 13:18 |
| schestowitz | cholerose1985: just relax, you'll find out how it's done | Jan 12 13:18 |
| schestowitz | cholerose1985: you can learn from reading other people's themes | Jan 12 13:18 |
| schestowitz | Then hack on them | Jan 12 13:18 |
| schestowitz | Have you any existing theme files? | Jan 12 13:19 |
| schestowitz | Maybe some compressed files (tar.gz/zip renamed) with many images and some xml files | Jan 12 13:19 |
| oiaohm | Themes for android wrap in standard application packaging for there parts. | Jan 12 13:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/111110-data-centers-understaffed.html | Jan 12 13:19 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: does Android use a toolkit like gtk? | Jan 12 13:20 |
| oiaohm | Nop Android is its own toolkit. | Jan 12 13:20 |
| schestowitz | afik, android has many proprietary bits outside just the gsm parts of those that cannot be exposed | Jan 12 13:20 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: Google keeps that toolkit closed? | Jan 12 13:20 |
| oiaohm | Nop | Jan 12 13:20 |
| schestowitz | As in non-Free? | Jan 12 13:20 |
| oiaohm | The toolkit is fully open source | Jan 12 13:21 |
| schestowitz | Chrome OS uses Chrome OS. Does that use a similar toolkit? | Jan 12 13:21 |
| schestowitz | Chrome OS is just Ubuntu | Jan 12 13:21 |
| schestowitz | Thus gtk underneath, but it's stuck with just the Chrome browser/Chromium | Jan 12 13:21 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] UPLS question put forward by LaQuadrature: http://i5.be/ahR | Jan 12 13:21 | |
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| oiaohm | Nop Chrome OS toolkit not Androids. | Jan 12 13:22 |
| oiaohm | Androids is direct no extra crap. | Jan 12 13:22 |
| MinceR | it's some java-only crap | Jan 12 13:23 |
| cholerose1985 | this is hard ya it is java and sum lady says she uses photo somthing to make her themes | Jan 12 13:24 |
| cholerose1985 | i cant even find the java program to use either | Jan 12 13:24 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: not anymore | Jan 12 13:27 |
| schestowitz | cholerose1985: maybe just an image editing program | Jan 12 13:28 |
| schestowitz | To make pixmaps | Jan 12 13:28 |
| oiaohm | Theme editors will come cholerose1985 android is just a fairly new phone system in the market. It took nokia phones only like 7 years to move away from manual. | Jan 12 13:28 |
| schestowitz | You don't need a program to make themes, maybe just to test them as you go along | Jan 12 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Palm and Nokia offer devs $1 million prize for best app for webos and memo | Jan 12 13:29 |
| schestowitz | *maemo | Jan 12 13:29 |
| oiaohm | Android does have a emulator that is kinda handy to test applications and themes on before risking a phone. | Jan 12 13:29 |
| schestowitz | http://www.esecurityplanet.com/features/article.php/3857841/Who-Was-Who-in-Spam-for-2009.htm | Jan 12 13:30 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: how can the java apis be used from c/c++? | Jan 12 13:30 |
| oiaohm | There is a native api for android MinceR | Jan 12 13:31 |
| schestowitz | http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=31482 | Jan 12 13:31 |
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| MinceR | i know there is, but i'm not sure if native code run through it can call back | Jan 12 13:33 |
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| oiaohm | There is a lot more to creating themes than a lot of people like to admit. cholerose1985 google makes theme makers get the gernel sdk for a reason. using over sized image and the like can reduce performance and do other bad things. | Jan 12 13:35 |
| schestowitz | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Pidgin-update-addresses-emoticon-vulnerability-900992.html | Jan 12 13:44 |
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| schestowitz | In the mean time, don't smile | Jan 12 13:44 |
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| MinceR | :| | Jan 12 13:46 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: http://www.penguinpetes.com/Doomed_to_Obscurity/index.php?strip=0000192.jpg | Jan 12 14:02 |
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| oiaohm | Yep had that schestowitz | Jan 12 14:04 |
| schestowitz | The people of the IRC thingie are of no help.... :-| | Jan 12 14:04 |
| schestowitz | [13:07] <schestowitz> Hi, I have a question: | Jan 12 14:04 |
| schestowitz | [13:08] <schestowitz> qwebirc steals focus (the iframe) when it is started | Jan 12 14:04 |
| schestowitz | [13:08] <schestowitz> username toggling | Jan 12 14:04 |
| schestowitz | [13:08] <schestowitz> Is there a way to prevent this behaviour? | Jan 12 14:04 |
| schestowitz | [13:09] <@slug> on the quakenet instance? | Jan 12 14:04 |
| schestowitz | [13:10] <schestowitz> Thanks slug | Jan 12 14:04 |
| schestowitz | [13:10] <schestowitz> Freenode | Jan 12 14:04 |
| schestowitz | [13:11] <schestowitz> I was gonna install it on my own server, but freenode provides one after mibbit had been blocked | Jan 12 14:04 |
| schestowitz | [13:11] <schestowitz> I open it in an iframe with ?channels=XXXXXXXXXX down the page, then it steals focus, in Firefox 3.5, not in Konqueror though | Jan 12 14:04 |
| schestowitz | [13:15] <schestowitz> I googled many things and went everywhere in your site, even some code. I couldn't find documentation or any general tricks to avoid the "username" field from grabbing focus | Jan 12 14:04 |
| schestowitz | [13:25] <schestowitz> My plan is to put qwebirc instance at the bottom of 9000+ pages, but being at the bottom means the pageload will be followed by scrolldown to the bottom of the page | Jan 12 14:04 |
| schestowitz | I'm aborting this plan.... no way around it, apparently | Jan 12 14:04 |
| schestowitz | I'm gonna post some links in BN..... | Jan 12 14:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.mobilegazette.com/lg-gw990-10x01x11.htm - ballnux+intel charity killer | Jan 12 14:06 |
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| oiaohm | There is make your own IRC client. But that is way too much work. schestowitz | Jan 12 14:06 |
| oiaohm | Not exactly schestowitz | Jan 12 14:08 |
| oiaohm | LG GW990 will find out how much desktop and moble space can over lap. | Jan 12 14:09 |
| oiaohm | Results could driver the arm vs x86 battle even stronger. | Jan 12 14:09 |
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| oiaohm | http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/linuxondesktopwrong.shtml People love missign the basics. | Jan 12 14:12 |
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| oiaohm | All desktop OS's have items like KMS and other graphical card management. Linux has been lacking. | Jan 12 14:13 |
| oiaohm | Ie it critical that a desktop user is not left hanging in mid air not knowing if machine has had a issue or not. | Jan 12 14:13 |
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| oiaohm | http://www.penguinpetes.com/Doomed_to_Obscurity/index.php?strip=0000191.jpg << The day before Doomed to Obscurity is better. | Jan 12 14:15 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] US has a Supreme Court to correct deviant patent courts, why not the EU? | Jan 12 14:18 | |
| MinceR | it's probably better to just provide a link to the webchat anyway | Jan 12 14:20 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] I now know, why i got DOT NET ? Every one of my pal badly wanted me in it :( | Jan 12 14:23 | |
| cubezzz | none of the bloggers seem to mention Amiga | Jan 12 14:29 |
| MinceR | amiga is dead | Jan 12 14:32 |
| cubezzz | not quite :) | Jan 12 14:33 |
| cubezzz | I admit it's almost dead | Jan 12 14:33 |
| cubezzz | it's still worth mentioning | Jan 12 14:34 |
| cubezzz | no question though, there's no going back | Jan 12 14:37 |
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| oiaohm | amiga is releasing a new machine in 2010. | Jan 12 14:39 |
| MinceR | url? | Jan 12 14:39 |
| cubezzz | http://www.osnews.com/story/22693 | Jan 12 14:40 |
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| cubezzz | I think I've found it | Jan 12 14:40 |
| MinceR | interesting | Jan 12 14:42 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll resurrect PPC? | Jan 12 14:42 |
| cubezzz | seems like a completely new processor | Jan 12 14:43 |
| cubezzz | but yeah, that's the co-processor | Jan 12 14:44 |
| MinceR | ic | Jan 12 14:44 |
| oiaohm | Amiga has done a lot of co-processor stuff over history. | Jan 12 14:44 |
| cubezzz | definitely seems like a machine for hackers | Jan 12 14:45 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Has anyone, anywhere, successfully compiled their own modules to actually work with any Windows Apache 2.0? I know no evidence of such. | Jan 12 15:14 | |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: my university's site requirs IE for viewing my account, could that be because of Silverblight? | Jan 12 15:22 |
| Omar87 | requires* | Jan 12 15:24 |
| oiaohm | No it does not have to be Omar87 | Jan 12 15:28 |
| MinceR | probably because they couldn't be bothered to conform to standards | Jan 12 15:30 |
| MinceR | instead they hacked up some m$html and put in a useragent check | Jan 12 15:30 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: not unless it's installed | Jan 12 15:33 |
| schestowitz | Maybe activex | Jan 12 15:33 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: yeah, perhaps. However, I've been able to work around it by using Konquerer. | Jan 12 15:54 |
| Omar87 | It has this cool browers identification feature. | Jan 12 15:54 |
| MinceR | http://www.shipmentoffail.com/fails/2010/01/bing/ | Jan 12 15:56 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linuxfest Northwest 2010 Web Site Created http://ur1.ca/jo8s | Jan 12 16:05 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] As much as I hate #Jordan, it's I'll have to admit it's beginning to impress me more and more every day! :) http://tinyurl.com/yee8k76 | Jan 12 16:07 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] The rise of Free and Open Source Software, in #Jordan :) http://tinyurl.com/yee8k76 | Jan 12 16:09 | |
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| oiaohm | 2010 the year PC makers become phone makers ? | Jan 12 16:39 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Qualcomm and #HP Target #GNU #Linux for Sub-notebook http://ur1.ca/joci http://ur1.ca/jocj | Jan 12 16:39 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Vista7 Disappoints, So Another #Migration to #GNU #Linux to Occur http://ur1.ca/jodg | Jan 12 16:47 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IntellectualMonopolies - When S* Hits the Fan http://www.boingboing.net/2010/01/11/tintin-copyrights-go.html | Jan 12 17:00 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Tintin copyrights go to war against Tintin fans Boing Boing .::. Size~: 49.37 KB | Jan 12 17:00 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Unlicense Licensing Movement Grows http://ostatic.com/blog/the-unlicense-a-license-for-no-license | Jan 12 17:01 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Google's Dominance in #Programming Makes Start? http://ur1.ca/joen | Jan 12 17:02 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: TIOBE language index: Google's Go is the biggest climber - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 30.64 KB | Jan 12 17:03 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Patent trolls go after the smaller companies first: http://i5.be/ahY | Jan 12 17:04 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #California Further Embraces #FreeSoftware http://techie-buzz.com/opensource/california-goes-open-source.html | Jan 12 17:07 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla Mobile #Firefox Final Release Imminent, for Linux Only http://ur1.ca/jofa | Jan 12 17:09 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Intel Chooses #FreeSoftware for #CMS http://buytaert.net/intel-using-drupal | Jan 12 17:10 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] is "a bad dose of hiccups" a reasonable excuse for a bomb disposal officer to call in sick? | Jan 12 17:11 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Twitter reveals that it is powered by free software : http://blog.twitter.com/2009/01/building-on-open-source.html | Jan 12 17:18 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Former #Walmart Manager: “Walmart is De-emphasizing and Taking Shelf Space from the [Xbox] 360” http://ur1.ca/johk | Jan 12 17:32 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft ’s One-Month Downtime and Dirty Secrets About Office http://boycottnovell.com/2010/01/12/one-month-downtime-customers/ | Jan 12 17:51 | |
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| tessier | schestowitz: If you were looking for me earlier whatever you said has scrolled off | Jan 12 17:52 |
| schestowitz | tessier: thanks, all has been fine :-) | Jan 12 18:03 |
| tessier | Great | Jan 12 18:03 |
| tessier | The server load is looking much better. That change you made really helped. | Jan 12 18:04 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Betrays Another ‘Partner’, This Time #MySQL http://boycottnovell.com/2010/01/12/microsoft-vs-mysql/ | Jan 12 18:07 | |
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| MinceR | mysql was a "partner" of m$? | Jan 12 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Jan 12 18:23 |
| schestowitz | They must have required API access and 'stuff' | Jan 12 18:23 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft to Rent the Software It’s Already Renting to Fight #GNU #Linux Adoption http://ur1.ca/jom6 | Jan 12 18:34 | |
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| schestowitz | bbl | Jan 12 18:38 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] The diploma mill Ph.D dissertation of creationist Kent Hovind. http://is.gd/68XKX Your brain will run away screaming from the stupid. | Jan 12 19:12 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] GIVE WL MONEY! RT @wikileaks back for submissions http://is.gd/68YXh but our new publishing infrastructure is taking a little longer. | Jan 12 19:17 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @schestowitz I have to agree. :-) | Jan 12 19:17 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @arkadyrose http://bit.ly/4tjfki - My Little @ladygaga ! | Jan 12 19:20 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Interessant en inspirerend #FOSS interview met Christian Einfeldt op Open Bytes: http://tinyurl.com/yauh2xa | Jan 12 19:26 | |
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| DaemonFC | one critical security update this month | Jan 12 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS10-001.mspx?pubDate=2010-01-12 | Jan 12 20:08 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft Security Bulletin MS10-001 - Critical: Vulnerability in the Embedded OpenType Font Engine Could Allow Remote Code Execution (972270) .::. Size~: 177.1 KB | Jan 12 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | Mozilla Firefox, Opera, Safari, and Chrome can open EOFs | Jan 12 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | so this Windows vulnerability puts users of those browsers at risk, not just IE users | Jan 12 20:11 |
| MinceR | windows users had it coming | Jan 12 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | like most patched Windows vulnerabilities, this one has been there for 10 years | Jan 12 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | and affects people who don't use the programs bundled with Windows | Jan 12 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | it should be enough to piss people off, that Windows is actually opening up vulnerabilities in Firefox that Mozilla can't do anything about | Jan 12 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | (granted, sometimes they could but choose not to) | Jan 12 20:18 |
| MinceR | hopefully it's enough for some | Jan 12 20:24 |
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| MinceR | but most people won't even listen | Jan 12 20:28 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] European Parliament WebTV based on Microsoft patented technology: "ASP.NET Ajax client-side framework failed to load" http://i5.be/ah2 | Jan 12 20:31 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Enjoying watching Come Dine With Me via "the web based TV site whose name I dare not speak" #fb | Jan 12 20:55 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Natal | Jan 12 21:29 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Project Natal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 100.82 KB | Jan 12 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft's Project: Wii Ripoff | Jan 12 21:29 |
| ThistleWeb | all I think of with the word "natal" is new mums | Jan 12 21:30 |
| ThistleWeb | "get em young" in extreme mode | Jan 12 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft is trying to stall for time by saying the XBOX 360 has years left in it | Jan 12 21:33 |
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| DaemonFC | "The Xbox 360 was designed for a long life" | Jan 12 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! | Jan 12 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-10433167-17.html | Jan 12 21:37 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: How many years does the Xbox 360 have left? | The Digital Home - CNET News .::. Size~: 164.01 KB | Jan 12 21:37 |
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| ThistleWeb | all consoles are built on like a 5 yr cycle | Jan 12 21:48 |
| ThistleWeb | the 360 and the ps3 are no different, it's only the circumstances which are making them try to claim a 10yr cycle in hindsight | Jan 12 21:48 |
| ThistleWeb | if the 360 hadn't been such an unreliable product and actually made them money, and the ecconomy hadn't bombed, they'd be building the next one | Jan 12 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | I hate people that upload in WAV | Jan 12 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | it's become a pandemic lately since Crapple fanboys bitch about FLAC | Jan 12 21:58 |
| MinceR | why do they bitch about FLAC? | Jan 12 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | cause they want it in Apple Lossless | Jan 12 21:59 |
| MinceR | fuck them | Jan 12 21:59 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: I agree, but I can't find this in FLAC, only WAV | Jan 12 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | and it pisses me off | Jan 12 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | they complain because iPuke doesn't play FLAC and they can't figure out what to do at that point probably | Jan 12 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | When Apple software can't or won't do something, the Crapple Fanboy learns to live with it, then insists that nobody would want that feature anyway | Jan 12 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It's like the fox and the grapes | Jan 12 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | have you seen a group viciously attacking Firefox as heavily as Mac users? | Jan 12 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | Safari is perfect | Jan 12 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | Safari does nothing wrong | Jan 12 22:03 |
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| DaemonFC | there are few hardcore Windows users defending Internet Explorer or Windows Media Player the way that Crapple Fanboys defend iTunes and Safari | Jan 12 22:04 |
| MinceR | dunno, the only person i remember viciously attacking firefox is a m$ fanboy elsewhere :> | Jan 12 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft has snuggled up to Firefox over the last couple years for some reason, and now even MS MVPs rave about how great it is | Jan 12 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | until about 2007, the MVPs basically pretended that Mozilla didn't exist | Jan 12 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | or if they did, they would ridicule it somehow | Jan 12 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | I think the breaking point was when IE 7 finally did come out and wasn't that much of an improvement over IE 6 | Jan 12 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | they generally don't praise non-Microsoft cross platform software, and it's open source to boot | Jan 12 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 12 22:08 |
| MinceR | in most cases m$ products being crap and cross-platform FLOSS being better doesn't faze them | Jan 12 22:09 |
| MinceR | maybe m$ is buying the Mozilla Foundation? :> | Jan 12 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | I suspect some collusion | Jan 12 22:09 |
| MinceR | or simply they're so scared of google that they try to help firefox against chrome? | Jan 12 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | I doubt it | Jan 12 22:10 |
| MinceR | or they're preparing to push their own staff into the Mozilla Foundation? | Jan 12 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox is pretty much owned by Google anyway | Jan 12 22:10 |
| MinceR | i don't expect them to be scared of Opera | Jan 12 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | it's where 90% of Mozilla's money comes from, Firefox drives you towards Google | Jan 12 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | Opera pretty much dominates phones | Jan 12 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | MS tries to foist IE on you there | Jan 12 22:11 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20100112/NEWS/100119862?Title=Mystery-object-to-whizz-by-Earth | Jan 12 22:17 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Mystery object to whizz by Earth Wednesday | PressDemocrat.com | The Press Democrat | Santa Rosa, CA .::. Size~: 57.63 KB | Jan 12 22:18 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: it's Flash | Jan 12 22:18 |
| schestowitz | Plays OK | Jan 12 22:18 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: Wii was not first either | Jan 12 22:19 |
| schestowitz | They make slight mods to existing tech, then claim credit | Jan 12 22:19 |
| schestowitz | Multitouch is just touchscreen with more than one 2d coord | Jan 12 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/01/rem-everybody-hurts-without-network-neutrality.ars | Jan 12 22:21 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I don't suppose you speak Russian? | Jan 12 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | ugggh | Jan 12 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | it says that registration is closed and I can register between 8:00-10:00 MSK | Jan 12 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | and that they apologize for this inconvenience | Jan 12 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | Google Translate is getting better :) | Jan 12 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | MP3 should rightfully be a Russian invention anyway | Jan 12 22:29 |
| MinceR | why? | Jan 12 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | obvious reasons | Jan 12 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | it's just good enough to work and there's a billion of them made | Jan 12 22:30 |
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| DaemonFC | "If you are wondering, the sub is Swiss" | Jan 12 22:32 |
| schestowitz | Good show.... http://linuxbasement.com/content/lb-episode-48-holiday-geek-roundup-linux-basement | Jan 12 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | Daniel Jackson: "So it might explode now and then, but it keeps perfect time?" | Jan 12 22:32 |
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| MinceR | lol | Jan 12 22:33 |
| *schestowitz does patent post | Jan 12 22:33 | |
| DaemonFC | wonderful, my choice is to download it all in WAV at 1.1 KB /sec | Jan 12 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | or go find it on RapidShare somewhere | Jan 12 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | and spend equal time downloadin it in 100 MB RAR chunks | Jan 12 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | waiting 15 minutes between downloads | Jan 12 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | that is assuming it's there | Jan 12 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | or I could go out and spend $150 on the CDs | Jan 12 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | decisions decisions | Jan 12 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | if I get the CDs, I'll use them once, to rip it to Vorbis, and they'll be a dust collection after that | Jan 12 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | I can't legally sell them while I have the Vorbis files I made (who cares), but I'll only get about $60 for my "used CDs" if I do | Jan 12 22:37 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Now upgrading an old Debian etch to Ubuntu hardy. Perhaps the result will boot! Then we can see about Karmic. | Jan 12 22:48 | |
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| trmanco | lol | Jan 12 23:12 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #i4i Shoots Down #Microsoft Office (Online Store Delisting), Joseph Stiglitz Denounces Microsoft http://ur1.ca/jp4z | Jan 12 23:14 | |
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| oiaohm | I am waiting for more patents to turn up. | Jan 12 23:33 |
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| trmanco | http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html | Jan 12 23:47 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Official Google Blog: A new approach to China .::. Size~: 83.95 KB | Jan 12 23:47 |
| trmanco | china is messing with the wrong people | Jan 12 23:48 |
| oiaohm | China has given google no option bar to hit back. | Jan 12 23:52 |
| oiaohm | Google depends on trust in lots of areas of business to operate. | Jan 12 23:52 |
| MinceR | google has some nerve lecturing the chinese about freedom of speech | Jan 12 23:54 |
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