| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Catholic Church still quietly shuffling its criminal priests around http://bit.ly/aG584Z | Feb 07 00:00 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] decided to download Fedora 12 to try on the netbook tomorrow, it's been a while | Feb 07 00:13 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Goddamn I love RationalWiki. http://is.gd/7QrEx http://is.gd/7QrIM | Feb 07 00:24 | |
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| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Petition to: ensure the use of The Kadir-Buxton Method to cure the mentally ill in the NHS. | Number10.gov.uk .::. Size~: 11.42 KB | Feb 07 00:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Ah, Babylon 5. One of the greatest TV shows ever. Probably the greatest American TV show. Glad we bought the DVDs. | Feb 07 00:32 | |
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| ender2070 | Kubuntu isn't too bad | Feb 07 00:39 |
| ender2070 | at least it uses kpackagekit | Feb 07 00:40 |
| MinceR | and no pulseaudio nor mono in the default install... for now. | Feb 07 00:41 |
| ender2070 | oh | Feb 07 00:41 |
| ender2070 | I like pulseaudio | Feb 07 00:42 |
| MinceR | i don't trust it yet, i have bad experience with it | Feb 07 00:42 |
| ender2070 | its worked out flawless for me | Feb 07 00:43 |
| MinceR | and if the ubuntu package of it is installed then it forces itself on me | Feb 07 00:43 |
| ender2070 | even with my logitech usb headset | Feb 07 00:43 |
| ender2070 | when I plug it in, it automatically switches the audio over for me | Feb 07 00:43 |
| ender2070 | you need pulseaudio control panel or it sucks | Feb 07 00:44 |
| ender2070 | opensuse kde was missing mono too | Feb 07 00:44 |
| schestowitz | pulseaudo is said to be poorly integrated into Ubuntu, by Ubuntu | Feb 07 01:01 |
| schestowitz | The developers of pa (from Fedora now, AFAIK, paid by RHT) hats Ubuntu for what they do to the reputation of is program | Feb 07 01:02 |
| schestowitz | /hats/hates | Feb 07 01:02 |
| schestowitz | /is/his/ | Feb 07 01:02 |
| schestowitz | /developers/developer/ (man, I gotta get so,me sleep!!) | Feb 07 01:02 |
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| ender2070 | yes im aware | Feb 07 01:19 |
| ender2070 | ubuntu doesnt even include the proper pulse audio mixer | Feb 07 01:19 |
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| yuhong | Here is the real reason why MS recommends an upgrade to IE8, (it is not because it is not vulnerable!): | Feb 07 01:30 |
| yuhong | http://blogs.technet.com/srd/archive/2010/01/15/assessing-risk-of-ie-0day-vulnerability.aspx | Feb 07 01:30 |
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| yuhong | http://blogs.technet.com/srd/archive/2010/01/20/reports-of-dep-being-bypassed.aspx | Feb 07 01:31 |
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| schestowitz | WHich one is this? | Feb 07 01:31 |
| schestowitz | There are several | Feb 07 01:31 |
| schestowitz | Many patches coming | Feb 07 01:31 |
| schestowitz | Many dozens that Microsoft admits | Feb 07 01:31 |
| schestowitz | Plus the hidden ones, as usual | Feb 07 01:31 |
| yuhong | The out-of-band one. | Feb 07 01:31 |
| schestowitz | Oh that | Feb 07 01:31 |
| yuhong | About IE. | Feb 07 01:31 |
| schestowitz | I see the dates now | Feb 07 01:31 |
| schestowitz | IE is dying | Feb 07 01:31 |
| schestowitz | As a dominant browser | Feb 07 01:31 |
| yuhong | I know, I don't use IE very often even on Windows anymore. | Feb 07 01:32 |
| schestowitz | Silver Lie never took off | Feb 07 01:32 |
| yuhong | Though I heard about someone using it to create a Ogg Theora decoder, what do you think? | Feb 07 01:32 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Games: Primal Carnage is Coming to #GNU #Linux Later This Year http://www.devmaster.net/news/index.php?storyid=2418 | Feb 07 01:39 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why Compiling One's Own Platform is Valuable http://www.hotaboutlinux.com/2010/02/why-compile-a-new-kernel/ | Feb 07 01:40 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNOME Desktop Gets Fresher in Next Version http://mybroadband.co.za/news/Software/11391.html | Feb 07 01:42 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RD: @tuxmaniac: Linus Torvalds buys a #nexusone http://is.gd/7QgF4 - Happy Camper! | Feb 07 01:52 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] There is no spoon. Just a hologram of one. o_0 http://is.gd/7QH3Y | Feb 07 01:57 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #GNOME Journal is Released http://ur1.ca/lom8 http://ur1.ca/lom9 http://ur1.ca/loma | Feb 07 01:57 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Good Reviews of #Clonezilla and #Pardus 2009.1 http://ur1.ca/lomc http://ur1.ca/lomd | Feb 07 01:58 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mandriva 2010.1 Progresses to Second Alpha http://ur1.ca/lome http://ur1.ca/lomf | Feb 07 02:00 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @achitnis: RT @nimbuin: New post, What web designers should know about EPUB http://is.gd/7PNd2 | Feb 07 02:01 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Just noticed twitter/facebook/gtalk/irc are productivity killers and i am not goin to use them today, see you all tomorrow; | Feb 07 02:02 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Derivatives Find New Creative Ways to Distribute #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/lomh http://ur1.ca/lomi | Feb 07 02:02 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux as Server, Laptop http://ur1.ca/lomm http://ur1.ca/lomn | Feb 07 02:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux Devices ( #Linksys Routers) Come to #India http://ur1.ca/lomq | Feb 07 02:04 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Applications for #Linux #Phones Mean Money http://ur1.ca/lomx http://ur1.ca/lomy | Feb 07 02:06 | |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz hmmmmm http://salon.com/books/history/index.html?story=/books/feature/2010/02/03/david_aaronovitch_conspiracy_theories manages to equate Naomi Klein and 9/11 researchers with "The Da Vinci Code". | Feb 07 02:06 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More #GNU #Linux #Tablets Appear at the Scene http://ur1.ca/lon4 http://ur1.ca/lon5 http://ur1.ca/lon6 | Feb 07 02:08 | |
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| tessier_ | I can't believe nothing interesting has happened in SCO vs IBM in so long. | Feb 07 02:12 |
| tessier_ | I've practically quit following groklaw even. | Feb 07 02:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Pound for pound, bats can drink you under the table http://is.gd/7QMNg ah, goths and their reputation | Feb 07 02:29 | |
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| qu1j0t3 | ouch: http://twitter.com/HappyFeminist/status/8744350228 | Feb 07 02:32 |
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| qu1j0t3 | Palin is Apocalyptically stupid and dangerous | Feb 07 02:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Wow. Reasons to *actively avoid* reading LiveJournal, ever again: http://is.gd/7QQ3A | Feb 07 02:49 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] DofT "sexed up" #Heathrow runway case, deleted the evidence. Got déjà vu? http://timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article7017943.ece #uk | Feb 07 02:57 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@HappyFeminist No, YOU invented #TeaFuckery! http://twitter.com/HappyFeminist/statuses/8744350228 <- Palin discussing #Israel is just scary | Feb 07 02:59 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] initial impressions of fedora 12 xfce live is pretty good, worth exploring more before deciding to install | Feb 07 03:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Google cache of that last one. http://is.gd/7QSol - malware-infected popups/interstitial ads on LiveJournal. | Feb 07 03:04 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@EvilSlutClique eating *any* vegetable is now considered 'elitist'. You can only trust #food designed by corporations! | Feb 07 03:14 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@whisper1111 so pleased i missed her // wish I had, but I checked @twitter :( | Feb 07 03:15 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] lol #TuxRadar "Steve Jobs doing a job share with RMS" | Feb 07 03:36 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Watching Babylon 5 - 4th season episode, ISN reporter, floating camera dies. Vicky says it was Windows based! | Feb 07 03:52 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] card command in linux - card ls -o filename creates a PS ref card of ls flags called filename - credit #tuxradar | Feb 07 04:05 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] anyone know if there's gonna be a Crunchbang 9.10 sometime this year? | Feb 07 04:12 | |
| sebsebseb | http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/01/google-to-send-internet-explorer-6-users-packing-come-march.ars | Feb 07 04:12 |
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| qu1j0t3 | no doubt everyone's seen... http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100206170554489 | Feb 07 05:16 |
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| qu1j0t3 | "Aside from the obvious answer that monopolies don't usually bestir themselves unless they have to, ..." | Feb 07 05:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | 'I think you will agree with my opinion, that Brass's characterization of Microsoft as "a largely accidental monopolist" is hardly accurate.' | Feb 07 05:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Vidal: "Hitchens identified himself for many years as the heir to me ... unfortunately, for him, I didn't die." (via @alykhansatchu) | Feb 07 05:32 | |
| qu1j0t3 | http://twitter.com/drgrist/status/8752448727 | Feb 07 05:34 |
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| qu1j0t3 | http://twitter.com/martenmickos/status/8751775889 | Feb 07 05:41 |
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| qu1j0t3 | ^^ This is called, parlaying | Feb 07 05:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | Asay has used his connections. Shall we find out what he believes in? And will that turn out to be MONEY? | Feb 07 05:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | how banal. | Feb 07 05:42 |
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| DaemonFC | oh this is just messed up | Feb 07 05:50 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Palin *would* bring a notepad to a teleprompter fight. | Feb 07 05:50 | |
| DaemonFC | "To help protect your computer Windows has closed Windows Explore" | Feb 07 05:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | DaemonFC, you sound surprised | Feb 07 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, Ustream was playing the Palin Teabagger Speech | Feb 07 05:51 |
| *DaemonFC pukes | Feb 07 05:51 | |
| qu1j0t3 | DaemonFC, this is part of the Windows Experience(TM) | Feb 07 05:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | DaemonFC, I almost avoided the whole sick epic, but i follow too many ppl who tweeted it. | Feb 07 05:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | just when i thought i was out... they drag me back in... | Feb 07 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | I tried calling ZT Systems to get my Windows 7 serial back which is what Microsoft told me to do | Feb 07 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | and I got this guy with the thick Indian accent telling me that I didn't need a serial with that disc | Feb 07 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | I felt like screaming "DUMBASS, I'll just tell all the people on The Pirate Bay that then and post an ISO of my Windows disc!!!!" | Feb 07 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Feb 07 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | he probably meant I wouldn't need to put in a serial if I put Vista on and then popped in the Windows 7 disc | Feb 07 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | then 5 hours later I'm up and running again | Feb 07 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | no thanks | Feb 07 05:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | DaemonFC, learn something. ditch it. | Feb 07 05:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | DaemonFC, this isn't the last time | Feb 07 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | I just love how Microsoft refuses to support anything labeled OEM | Feb 07 05:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | DaemonFC, ppl gain a ridiculously high tolerance for this crap | Feb 07 05:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | DaemonFC, and it doesn't help remove it | Feb 07 05:55 |
| DaemonFC | so Microsoft refuses to support probably 95% of Windows installs out there | Feb 07 05:55 |
| DaemonFC | just won't touch it | Feb 07 05:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | you sound surprised... | Feb 07 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | it's easy to see why a company would put out crap when they have no competitors and no obligation to support it | Feb 07 05:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | no shit. | Feb 07 05:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | you only just figured this out? | Feb 07 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | I never really looked at how bad support was for OEM Windows | Feb 07 05:57 |
| DaemonFC | never had to | Feb 07 05:57 |
| DaemonFC | It would be like, a car company with no competitors and no legal obligation to put a warranty on the cars they made | Feb 07 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | you wouldn't get a fine automobile :) | Feb 07 05:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | right | Feb 07 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | I think there should be a lemon law for software | Feb 07 06:04 |
| DaemonFC | where if it doesn't meet your expectations, you have 3 days to return it | Feb 07 06:04 |
| DaemonFC | I think a lot of companies would start caring about quality | Feb 07 06:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | :) | Feb 07 06:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | yeah. i got burned this morning by HP Scan software. | Feb 07 06:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | 2 hours doing a multipage file | Feb 07 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | after a few months of using Windows 7, I give it a Below Expectations, whereas I rate Vista as Totally Unacceptable | Feb 07 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 7 got them on par with XP as far as I say | Feb 07 06:06 |
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| tessier_ | NetApplications released its figures for January 2010, and it seems that after only three months of availability, Microsoft's latest baby has already hit the 10% market share mark. | Feb 07 06:52 |
| tessier_ | http://www.osnews.com/story/22823/Windows_7_Market_Share_Reaches_10_ | Feb 07 06:52 |
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| cubezzz | because OEMs all sell doze :-/ | Feb 07 06:55 |
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| FurnaceBoy | i'm not even sure why they call it 'market share' under the circumstances. | Feb 07 07:02 |
| cubezzz | Dell is such a pussy | Feb 07 07:16 |
| cubezzz | disappointed again | Feb 07 07:16 |
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| sebsebseb | Ubuntu users and their Windows 7 | Feb 07 07:40 |
| sebsebseb | oh yes that's right | Feb 07 07:40 |
| sebsebseb | loads of them want to dual boot it with Windows 7 | Feb 07 07:40 |
| sebsebseb | FurnaceBoy: cubezzz | Feb 07 07:41 |
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| sebsebseb | FurnaceBoy: that's also kind of funny your market share comment | Feb 07 07:41 |
| sebsebseb | yeah the Desktop market really isn't fair | Feb 07 07:41 |
| DaemonFC | sebsebseb, It's not a bad thing | Feb 07 07:42 |
| DaemonFC | it's enough that it sparked their interest | Feb 07 07:42 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: what? | Feb 07 07:42 |
| DaemonFC | you take the training wheels off the bike eventually, right? | Feb 07 07:42 |
| sebsebseb | yeah, but some will keep dual boot for ages | Feb 07 07:43 |
| sebsebseb | many even | Feb 07 07:43 |
| DaemonFC | well, I mean they spend more time in Ubuntu and less time in Windows 7, and by the time Windows "next" gets here, maybe they don't care enough to buy it | Feb 07 07:43 |
| DaemonFC | I call that a win | Feb 07 07:43 |
| sebsebseb | well some will spend more time in Windows 7 | Feb 07 07:44 |
| DaemonFC | that's still not a bad thing | Feb 07 07:44 |
| DaemonFC | it's not like it's hurt Linux as a whole that they don't jump over entirely | Feb 07 07:44 |
| DaemonFC | it's either a plus or a draw as far as Linux goes | Feb 07 07:44 |
| DaemonFC | I would never use something like Wubi, but I can see why it's on the CD | Feb 07 07:45 |
| DaemonFC | "Why not?" | Feb 07 07:45 |
| sebsebseb | yep better them having Desktop Linux in some form or the other, instead of none at all | Feb 07 07:46 |
| DaemonFC | some exposure beats total ignorance | Feb 07 07:47 |
| DaemonFC | it's one less person that says "What is Linux?" | Feb 07 07:47 |
| sebsebseb | ye[ | Feb 07 07:47 |
| sebsebseb | yep | Feb 07 07:47 |
| DaemonFC | the one thing I wouldn't mind seeing is some decent open source ATI drivers | Feb 07 07:49 |
| DaemonFC | FGLRX is fine for games, but Compiz is......less than optimal? | Feb 07 07:49 |
| DaemonFC | Kwin is worse, it might just die | Feb 07 07:50 |
| DaemonFC | and then as an accessory, whenever ATI does fix a handful of bugs, Ubuntu doesn't ship the new driver | Feb 07 07:50 |
| DaemonFC | this last 6 months has been really lousy, even by ATI's standards | Feb 07 07:51 |
| DaemonFC | I hate test messaging | Feb 07 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | *text | Feb 07 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | so naturally it's all anyone does | Feb 07 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | "It only costs 10 cents a text while typing with our thumbs on a numeric keypad while driving. whereas calling someone is faster and doesn't divert any attention, and doesn't cost anything" | Feb 07 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | hmmmm, let me think... | Feb 07 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | sebsebseb, Would I go to hell for replacing someone's bootsplash with goatse? | Feb 07 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 07 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | AMD has a blog where they discuss FGLRX and leave comments open? | Feb 07 08:04 |
| DaemonFC | they're brave | Feb 07 08:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #NFC Becomes #FreeSoftware http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Inside-Contactless-Open-NFC/?kc=rss | Feb 07 08:05 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Can Compensate for Obama's #NASA Budget Cuts http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/56872 | Feb 07 08:08 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] (MS)NBC Attacks #FreeSoftware with Lies http://techdirt.com/articles/20100204/1810198057.shtml | Feb 07 08:10 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #FreeSoftware Audiocasts http://www.twit.tv/floss107 http://ur1.ca/llj2 http://ur1.ca/lp04 | Feb 07 08:10 | |
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| amarsh04 | 85 minutes even | Feb 07 08:19 |
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| ziggyfish | schestowitz, hey | Feb 07 09:08 |
| Murloc | Hey ziggyfish | Feb 07 09:11 |
| DaemonFC | this is pathetic | Feb 07 09:13 |
| ziggyfish | lol | Feb 07 09:13 |
| DaemonFC | FGLRX has me crying out for my old Geforce 9500 GT | Feb 07 09:13 |
| DaemonFC | I'm about to go dig it out of its grave (my closet) and slap it in this system so Compiz will move | Feb 07 09:14 |
| ziggyfish | DaemonFC, does it have something to do with the XServer 1.7 and KMS | Feb 07 09:14 |
| DaemonFC | no, not really | Feb 07 09:15 |
| stavrosLinux | DeamonFC: ATI card? | Feb 07 09:15 |
| DaemonFC | stavrosLinux, yes | Feb 07 09:15 |
| stavrosLinux | DeamonFC, which? | Feb 07 09:15 |
| DaemonFC | RadeonHD 4670 | Feb 07 09:15 |
| DaemonFC | in Windows, it clobbers the Geforce 9800GT | Feb 07 09:16 |
| DaemonFC | in Linux, the Geforce 9500GT is 25% faster than it | Feb 07 09:16 |
| stavrosLinux | DeamonFC no luck with the radeon drivers? | Feb 07 09:16 |
| stavrosLinux | open drivers | Feb 07 09:16 |
| DaemonFC | if you want like barely any OpenGL support | Feb 07 09:16 |
| DaemonFC | cards are going obsolete faster than Mesa is being developed | Feb 07 09:17 |
| stavrosLinux | DaemonFC did u try the open radeon drivers? | Feb 07 09:18 |
| DaemonFC | yes, latest out of git | Feb 07 09:18 |
| DaemonFC | 3d acceleration is crude and barely good enough for ExtremeTux Racer | Feb 07 09:19 |
| schestowitz | ziggyfish: hey | Feb 07 09:19 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why every git commit has to be marked "r100" or "r200" | Feb 07 09:20 |
| DaemonFC | they could at least make it look like they're working on something that isn't old XP-era crap | Feb 07 09:20 |
| ziggyfish | schestowitz, I posted a comment for http://boycottnovell.com/2010/02/06/mundie-obama-davos-lobbyist/ today | Feb 07 09:21 |
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| DaemonFC | this Catalyst 10.1 got me good and pissed | Feb 07 09:21 |
| DaemonFC | fix 5 bugs, promise unspecified awesomeness coming at a later date | Feb 07 09:22 |
| DaemonFC | (probably for Windows) | Feb 07 09:22 |
| ziggyfish | schestowitz, but still haven't seen it in the comments section | Feb 07 09:23 |
| stavrosLinux | DeamonFC forget the catalyst drivers in linux | Feb 07 09:23 |
| schestowitz | ziggyfish: i see.... | Feb 07 09:23 |
| schestowitz | it's in the queue | Feb 07 09:23 |
| DaemonFC | Catalyst barely works, open source driver doesn't work, and I loathe Nvidia | Feb 07 09:23 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Feb 07 09:23 |
| ziggyfish | DaemonFC, I am having the same problem with my RadeonHD 4850, what distro? | Feb 07 09:24 |
| DaemonFC | doesn't matter, Catalyst sucks just as bad on all of them | Feb 07 09:25 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu doesn't even keep up with the monthly drivers | Feb 07 09:25 |
| DaemonFC | you just get stuck with whatever was current when the release went out | Feb 07 09:26 |
| DaemonFC | that would be OK with Nvidia, but FGLRX is so terrible that if 5 bugs get fixed, I want the new driver :) | Feb 07 09:26 |
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| DaemonFC | oh hell | Feb 07 09:27 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know what particular brand of acid that Phoronix takes hits of before declaring a Radeon that's limping along with FGLRX a 9 out of 10, but I want a pallet of it | Feb 07 09:28 |
| schestowitz | ziggyfish: done :-) | Feb 07 09:29 |
| ziggyfish | thanks | Feb 07 09:29 |
| ziggyfish | schestowitz, did you agree with my comments? | Feb 07 09:29 |
| DaemonFC | maybe it puts them in an altered sense of time whereas it looks like the card is rendering things twice as fast | Feb 07 09:30 |
| DaemonFC | I always wondered why Ubuntu defaults to the resize effect they do in Compiz, it's because it avoids having to repaint the window as you resize it | Feb 07 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | which is painful with FGLRX | Feb 07 09:31 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] Iraq inquiry. Alastair Campbell appears to almost break down while being interviewed about Iraq on the Andrew Marr show. | Feb 07 09:32 | |
| amarsh04 | sts-130 launch called off due to bad weather | Feb 07 09:35 |
| amarsh04 | next attempt in 24 hours | Feb 07 09:35 |
| DaemonFC | stavrosLinux, I'm going to make a t-shirt when the FOSS driver is out | Feb 07 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | and working | Feb 07 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | "I survived FGLRX" | Feb 07 09:36 |
| stavrosLinux | DeanonFC :-D | Feb 07 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | apparently Mesa 8.0 will be OpenGL 3 compatible | Feb 07 09:37 |
| DaemonFC | as I understand it, Mesa is where the hold up is | Feb 07 09:37 |
| schestowitz | ziggyfish: I replied in the comments | Feb 07 09:37 |
| schestowitz | It just sometimes detects stuff incorrectly and leaves it for me t moderate the following day | Feb 07 09:37 |
| DaemonFC | I just really want to see it mirror OpenGL support for everything that's in DirectX 9.0c | Feb 07 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | that's the point where I'll be using it daily, cause that means Wine gaming | Feb 07 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | stavrosLinux, The versions I pulled out of git yesterday correctly support Nexuiz | Feb 07 09:39 |
| DaemonFC | they fixed the lighting problems :D | Feb 07 09:39 |
| DaemonFC | this DirectX 11 work they're doing seems to be where the FGLRX development slowdown came from | Feb 07 09:41 |
| DaemonFC | like they stopped work on everything to pull developers for Windows 7 support | Feb 07 09:41 |
| DaemonFC | I've never seen them take this long to support a new version of Fedora, usually it's 1 month tops | Feb 07 09:42 |
| stavrosLinux | DaemonFC talking about the catalyst again; who cares 8-) | Feb 07 09:43 |
| stavrosLinux | DaemonFC only care about the open radeon | Feb 07 09:44 |
| DaemonFC | meh, I'd like to see AMD just stop everything but bug fixing and making sure it still works | Feb 07 09:44 |
| DaemonFC | and send the rest of their devs to work on the open source stuff | Feb 07 09:44 |
| DaemonFC | once the open source driver is out there, they're never going to have to worry about being the only ones that can fix an issue again | Feb 07 09:45 |
| DaemonFC | so their gain | Feb 07 09:45 |
| stavrosLinux | DaemonFc did u check the level of support of your card ; | Feb 07 09:45 |
| stavrosLinux | currently? | Feb 07 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, the driver works, it's Mesa that's the problem | Feb 07 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | anything 2d-related, the open source driver beats FGLRX hands down | Feb 07 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | gaming is dicey | Feb 07 09:48 |
| stavrosLinux | DaemonFc; compiz, google earth? | Feb 07 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | World of Goo worked, Nexuiz worked, Prey worked, Extreme Tux Racer worked, Sauerbraten has texture corruption, Compiz partially (mostly) works except for fade effects | Feb 07 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | Doom 3 does work | Feb 07 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | I don't doubt that it will reach some state where I can live with it soon | Feb 07 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | probably around April or May is where I'd guess | Feb 07 09:50 |
| DaemonFC | I'll probably land on Ubuntu 10.04 and go with xorg-edgers to keep me up to date with the git versions of the driver, x.org, and mesa | Feb 07 09:51 |
| stavrosLinux | DaemonFc hang in there ;-) | Feb 07 09:51 |
| DaemonFC | It's at the point where enough stuff works to frustrate you that the rest is missing :) | Feb 07 09:51 |
| DaemonFC | I don't like black boxes, binary drivers are an eyesore | Feb 07 09:52 |
| DaemonFC | it's a twofer that FGLRX is a binary *and* that it works so poorly | Feb 07 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, Tea Party convention....Yes.....those average everyday folks that can go to a $550 a plate dinner can finally talk about how Obama's Nazi Tax Hikes(R) are destroying their livelihoods | Feb 07 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 07 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if it's Black Tie or Blue Coveralls | Feb 07 10:04 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Feb 07 10:04 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gjFJjBGIDP2J1zBcxOA3cuYTkAuw | Feb 07 10:06 |
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| DaemonFC | Free at last!!! | Feb 07 10:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Another Misdirected Response from the Government to the Company “Not Engineered for #Security ” http://ur1.ca/lpfr | Feb 07 10:09 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Refuses to Comment About (Deny) the Sex Parties, Drug Use http://boycottnovell.com/2010/02/07/microsoft-orgies-and-drugs/ | Feb 07 10:15 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Most of the bandwidth used on the internet is most likely infected Windows machines spreading worms and spewing spam | Feb 07 10:18 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't be surprised if it overtook Bittorrent | Feb 07 10:18 |
| DaemonFC | which is what ISPs always bitch about | Feb 07 10:18 |
| DaemonFC | ISP's lock your modem until you use their software to activate it, which bugs you to install some antivirus software they've bundled | Feb 07 10:19 |
| DaemonFC | it's obvious that they're annoyed that their network is congested and so they're trying to cram their antivirus down your throat | Feb 07 10:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @orissaconcerns: 3000 ppl is in the 13th day of Protest Dharna at Balithuta 4 preventing Posco's land takeover http://bit.ly/am2eYy | Feb 07 10:21 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Michael Arrington a Hypocrite: Bribed by #Microsoft Yet Fires Bribed Bloggers http://ur1.ca/lphd #doublespeak #edelman #lies | Feb 07 10:53 | |
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| _goblin | Morning all... | Feb 07 10:53 |
| _goblin | what a night.... | Feb 07 10:54 |
| _goblin | didn't finish work until 4am...had to be up at 8..... | Feb 07 10:54 |
| _goblin | and its my day off.....thats dedication! | Feb 07 10:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Got two days off work now....hopefully get some work done on Openbytes.. | Feb 07 10:57 | |
| DaemonFC | _goblin, Clerks | Feb 07 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 07 10:58 |
| _goblin | Clerks? | Feb 07 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | yes, Clerks | Feb 07 10:58 |
| _goblin | the film? | Feb 07 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | as in "I'm not even supposed to be here today" | Feb 07 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | exactly | Feb 07 10:58 |
| _goblin | lol... | Feb 07 10:58 |
| _goblin | I am supposed to be here.....it was at work (there) that I wasnt at 4am! | Feb 07 10:58 |
| _goblin | supposed to finish at 000am | Feb 07 10:59 |
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| DaemonFC | something bad always happened to me when I came in on my day off anywhere I've worked | Feb 07 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | so I was on the floor pissing myself watching that movie | Feb 07 10:59 |
| _goblin | yeah....I could relate to that film.... | Feb 07 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | esp. the corpse, his girlfriend, and the bathroom | Feb 07 11:00 |
| _goblin | although at least I don't have "customers" in the traditional sense. | Feb 07 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | $500 fine for selling cigarettes to an 8 year old while he was reading the paper | Feb 07 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Feb 07 11:00 |
| _goblin | that was such a great film.... | Feb 07 11:00 |
| _goblin | and worked so well in B&W | Feb 07 11:01 |
| _goblin | I wonder how many people missed out and never watched it because it was in B&W? | Feb 07 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | I know, I saw it and wondered if there was something wrong with the xvid...errrr I mean DVD | Feb 07 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Feb 07 11:01 |
| _goblin | I bought it on import after a recommendation/hard sell by a DVD shop many many years ago...... | Feb 07 11:02 |
| _goblin | that was in the days of DVD players costing £350 | Feb 07 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to miss DVD | Feb 07 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | not cause I love the format, I just don't want the Cordon Blue of DRM that's replacing it | Feb 07 11:03 |
| _goblin | do you think it will be replaced so quick or will we have it for many more years like VHS? | Feb 07 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | well, it's dropping steadily | Feb 07 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | sales were down 18% last year, but a lot of that didn't benefit blu ray | Feb 07 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | it was just people not buying movies | Feb 07 11:04 |
| _goblin | I haven't really been paying attention.....get no time for shopping....if I get a film (and thats rare) its usually ex-rental from Blockbuster as Im too cheap to buy the film when it comes out at full price. | Feb 07 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | I'd say DVD probably has another 3-5 years to live as the dominant format | Feb 07 11:04 |
| _goblin | except in the case of Wrestling......I get all the events on DVD when they are released (Ive spent a fortune) | Feb 07 11:05 |
| DaemonFC | there's not a huge overwhelming demand for blu ray, DVD doesn't have most of the shortcomings that made VHS a pushover | Feb 07 11:05 |
| DaemonFC | people hear "HD" and go apeshit | Feb 07 11:05 |
| DaemonFC | that's the people buying blu ray | Feb 07 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | if you don't care if it's in HD or not, the Blu Ray players will play and upconvert all your DVDs | Feb 07 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | so it's not like you're wasting money by continuing to buy DVD | Feb 07 11:06 |
| _goblin | I think I agree with you....HD doesnt' really excite me. | Feb 07 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | DVDs don't degrade like VHS, VHS were really low res so doubling that really made DVD picture look awesome | Feb 07 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | DVD players don't usually eat a DVD | Feb 07 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 07 11:07 |
| _goblin | unless its an Xbox360 | Feb 07 11:08 |
| _goblin | they are partial to the odd disk now and then. | Feb 07 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, misaligned lens leads to disc scratching in some 360s | Feb 07 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | one of them attacked one of my games, I bitched to MS and they sent me a copy of Perfect Dark Zero :( | Feb 07 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | bastards | Feb 07 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Feb 07 11:08 |
| _goblin | its amazing, when I first bought a DVD player £350..........now you can get one for £24.00 | Feb 07 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, with more features and progressive scan! | Feb 07 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Feb 07 11:09 |
| _goblin | and divx compat | Feb 07 11:09 |
| _goblin | why hasn't the PC seen that type of reduction in price????? | Feb 07 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | _goblin, $38 gets you upscaling, SD slot, MP3/WMA/DIVX support | Feb 07 11:10 |
| DaemonFC | that's pretty good | Feb 07 11:10 |
| DaemonFC | lack of competition | Feb 07 11:10 |
| DaemonFC | by that I don't mean OEMs, I mean their supply chain | Feb 07 11:10 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft > Intel/AMD > Nvidia/ATI | Feb 07 11:11 |
| _goblin | Im not sure if a £24 drive from Tesco's upscales or has an SD slot...but then neither did the £350 one many years before. | Feb 07 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | mainly | Feb 07 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | you've got three layers of the supply chain that is either monopoly or a duopoly that's fixing the prices | Feb 07 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | cross licensing each other patents and trade secrets, fixing the price, locking out competitors | Feb 07 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | that's why PC prices aren't decreasing | Feb 07 11:12 |
| _goblin | yeah, I was merely thinking/wishing aloud! | Feb 07 11:13 |
| DaemonFC | you notice that when Walmart does a $150 PC, it's got Via motherboard, CPU, integrated GPU, and runs Linux | Feb 07 11:13 |
| DaemonFC | that OEM bypassed the problem areas in the chain | Feb 07 11:13 |
| DaemonFC | notice that China doesn't want to import x86 CPUs and so they built the MIPS clone Loongson or whatever you call it | Feb 07 11:14 |
| _goblin | I laughed when I heard the fake/counterfiet Dell machines from India actually had better performance than the real thing. | Feb 07 11:14 |
| DaemonFC | there's basically one thing that has to die to make Linux viable on non-x86 for a lot of users, Flash | Feb 07 11:15 |
| DaemonFC | _goblin, doesn't surprise me, Dell is just a name | Feb 07 11:15 |
| DaemonFC | larger profit margin | Feb 07 11:15 |
| DaemonFC | most unbranded systems give you better price / feature ratio than Dell/HP etc | Feb 07 11:16 |
| DaemonFC | those Ubuntu systems Dell sells are pitiful | Feb 07 11:16 |
| DaemonFC | you're actually doing better to buy a Dell system with Windows for the same price and format over it | Feb 07 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | cause you not only don't save any money buying the Ubuntu system, you're getting less memory and a slower processor too :) | Feb 07 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of the cheaper systems that come with Linux aren't really a deal, Linux is just there because it's not costing them money and they can pocket the difference | Feb 07 11:19 |
| DaemonFC | to make it worse, they usually ship it with some horrible Linux distro you'd never install yourself | Feb 07 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | Shuttle KPC with Foresight, for example | Feb 07 11:20 |
| Ender2070 | lol Foresight | Feb 07 11:21 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Shows Yet Again That It is Allergic to #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/lpk2 #dell #fast #fraud | Feb 07 11:28 | |
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| DaemonFC | heh | Feb 07 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | Halo is now Platinum under Wine | Feb 07 11:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Internet Explorer flaw (all versions) makes local files public, can't be fixed http://www.taranfx.com/ie-flaw-public-files | Feb 07 11:46 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Upgrading my main laptop to Ubuntu Lucid. Keeping a Karmic USB key kicking around just in case :) | Feb 07 11:51 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #iPad — like #Zune — might not reach the European Union (EU), probably due to lukewarm reception and lack of appeal http://ur1.ca/lpml | Feb 07 11:56 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Nice HTML5 sketch app.. no Flash in sight! http://bit.ly/8fqFYN | Feb 07 11:59 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.lockergnome.com/blade/2010/02/05/microsoft-to-pull-plug-on-original-xbox-live-users/ | Feb 07 12:07 |
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| DaemonFC | includes XBOX games playable on the 360 | Feb 07 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | time to turn your XBOX into a Xebian PC? | Feb 07 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | "OS Install Date: Dec 31 1969" | Feb 07 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | according to Steam | Feb 07 12:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A complete list of news articles about #Moonlight 3.0 preview shows that its biggest fans are #Microsoft fans http://ur1.ca/lpo6 | Feb 07 12:20 | |
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| DaemonFC | there hasn't been a release of Moonlight that's worked right yet | Feb 07 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | from January 10-February 7 IE has lost 0.4% | Feb 07 12:31 |
| DaemonFC | it's now at 54.86% | Feb 07 12:31 |
| schestowitz | How do you know? | Feb 07 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | statcounter | Feb 07 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | "Ryan Farmer Windows has to be the only OS where forgetting where you placed 26 letters and numbers is actually worse than losing the installation disc. 2 seconds ago" | Feb 07 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Feb 07 12:45 |
| schestowitz | OK, bbl | Feb 07 12:52 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Two futures of the internet: next cold war or up in the clouds | Technology | The Observer http://tinyurl.com/y8oe3ov | Feb 07 12:55 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.winehq.org/wwn/208 | Feb 07 13:00 |
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| DaemonFC | "He pointed out that Microsoft Office now "just works. You can use it all day long and you won't see the difference." Then he added that wasn't 100% true because, "The Paperclip still doesn't work." | Feb 07 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | oldie, but a good quip nonetheless :) | Feb 07 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=16041 | Feb 07 13:09 |
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| DaemonFC | Wine is getting closer to bringing everyone's favorite program to Linux | Feb 07 13:10 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/xubuntu-9-10.html | Feb 07 13:35 |
| DaemonFC | this guy hates Xubuntu as much as I do | Feb 07 13:35 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] AdBlock for Chrome: http://is.gd/7So9t Works in Chromium for Linux too. WIN. | Feb 07 13:58 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Not quite inbox zero, but zero *unread*. 149 lingering since, er ... 2004. | Feb 07 14:08 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] How anonymous is "anonymous" really?? http://is.gd/7Sun7 | Feb 07 14:37 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] Apple says only THEY can advertise based on YOUR location http://is.gd/7SvDn | Feb 07 14:42 | |
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| schestowitz | [13:10] <DaemonFC> Wine is getting closer to bringing everyone's favorite program to Linux | Feb 07 15:10 |
| schestowitz | Conficker \0/ | Feb 07 15:11 |
| schestowitz | > Of the commercial companies mentioned in the first episode, which of | Feb 07 15:20 |
| schestowitz | > them is useing Open Source. Facebook for one. Check it out and post on | Feb 07 15:20 |
| schestowitz | > it. | Feb 07 15:20 |
| schestowitz | How about Google? I'm thinking how to make it known, but it's already occasionally covered. Facebook recently enhanced the deal with Microsoft in some way (days ago) | Feb 07 15:20 |
| schestowitz | > Of the commercial companies mentioned in the first episode, which of | Feb 07 15:21 |
| schestowitz | > them is useing Open Source. Facebook for one. Check it out and post on | Feb 07 15:21 |
| schestowitz | > it. | Feb 07 15:21 |
| schestowitz | How about Google? I'm thinking how to make it known, but it's already occasionally covered. Facebook recently enhanced the deal with Microsoft in some way (days ago) | Feb 07 15:21 |
| schestowitz | > Also see attached report on ' malicious' user generated content. | Feb 07 15:21 |
| schestowitz | > What's it cost to the economy and what's the root cause. Answer: the | Feb 07 15:21 |
| schestowitz | > vast army of compromised Windows desktops, being used in botnets ... | Feb 07 15:21 |
| schestowitz | > | Feb 07 15:21 |
| schestowitz | > http://it.slashdot.org/story/10/02/07/0126226/95-of-User-Generated-Content-Is-Bogus | Feb 07 15:21 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Slashdot IT Story | 95% of User-Generated Content Is Bogus .::. Size~: 143.13 KB | Feb 07 15:21 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has successfully waged a PR war to sell the "all platforms are not secure" lie. | Feb 07 15:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @aashiks: GNU Global is nice. emacs integration stuff here : http://is.gd/7Sw64 | Feb 07 15:24 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: emacs-fu: navigating through source code using tags .::. Size~: 73.3 KB | Feb 07 15:24 |
| schestowitz | http://www.metrocorpcounsel.com/current.php?artType=view&artMonth=January&artYear=2010&EntryNo=10558 | Feb 07 15:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @anivar RT @aashiks: GNU Global is nice. emacs integration stuff here : http://is.gd/7Sw64 | Feb 07 15:27 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @nhklein: "The Corporate Takeover of U.S. Democracy" - http://tinyurl.com/yajhrv8 <- Money buys votes, officially and legally | Feb 07 15:27 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html | Feb 07 15:30 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: O'Reilly drops ebook DRM, sees 104% increase in sales Boing Boing .::. Size~: 120.96 KB | Feb 07 15:30 |
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| Roey | hi | Feb 07 15:31 |
| Roey | are novell and microsoft still separate entities?/s | Feb 07 15:32 |
| schestowitz | Hi | Feb 07 15:32 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Feb 07 15:32 |
| schestowitz | Not all parts | Feb 07 15:32 |
| schestowitz | Not he Cambridge lab for example | Feb 07 15:32 |
| schestowitz | /he/the/ | Feb 07 15:32 |
| Roey | ah | Feb 07 15:33 |
| Roey | Novell is boasting of 19 projects that they're considering collaborating with MS on | Feb 07 15:33 |
| schestowitz | Novell underestimated how unpopular the deal would be | Feb 07 15:34 |
| schestowitz | GroupWise still competes vs MSFT | Feb 07 15:34 |
| schestowitz | "[The partnership with Microsoft is] going very well insofar as we originally agreed to co-operate on three distinct projects and now we’re working on nine projects and there’s a good list of 19 other projects that we plan to co-operate on."-Hovsepian, Novell CEO | Feb 07 15:34 |
| schestowitz | But there are more now | Feb 07 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Stuff that promotes Microsoft in ways | Feb 07 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes it's good for Novelll too, but not for FOSS | Feb 07 15:35 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I'm encouraged to find that Groklaw too has begun complaining about the patent games Gates plays with his "foundation" | Feb 07 15:40 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.ubuntu.com/news/lotus-symphony-dedicated-support | Feb 07 15:42 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Canonical offers dedicated support program for Lotus Symphony | Ubuntu .::. Size~: 13.54 KB | Feb 07 15:42 |
| schestowitz | http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_for_Haiti | Feb 07 15:44 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: OLPC for Haiti - OLPC .::. Size~: 21.95 KB | Feb 07 15:44 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60S05820100129?type=technologyNews | Feb 07 15:53 |
| schestowitz | http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1341439/000119312510015241/d8k.htm | Feb 07 15:54 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/48245-eu-may-limit-us-anti-terrorism-finance-tracking | Feb 07 16:00 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: EU may limit US 'anti-terrorism' finance tracking | TG Daily .::. Size~: 43.92 KB | Feb 07 16:00 |
| schestowitz | Groklaw does not complain about Apple products, evrer | Feb 07 16:01 |
| schestowitz | I find that rather supine behaviour... and she's defending them from Psychostar[sic] too | Feb 07 16:01 |
| schestowitz | '“It is a humorous world in how Microsoft is much more open than Apple,” Brandon Watson, the director of product management in the developer platform at Microsoft' | Feb 07 16:02 |
| schestowitz | "[PJ: It's also humorous to see Microsoft echoing the thoughts of Psystar trolls on Groklaw.] " | Feb 07 16:02 |
| schestowitz | Actually, Apple *IS* is very closed | Feb 07 16:02 |
| schestowitz | The FSF would agree | Feb 07 16:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] In case you ever wondered: the complete matrix of all Wikimedia wikis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:SiteMatrix | Feb 07 16:03 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden .::. Size~: 0 KB | Feb 07 16:03 |
| schestowitz | "If you looked at the number of traditional commercial print companies in 2001 before 9/11, not including companies printing phone books, newspapers or magazines, there were 50,000 printing companies. Then after 9/11, that whittled down to about 35,000 commercial printing companies by 2003. I am hearing that when this recession corrects itself, we will go down to about 20,000 companies." | Feb 07 16:04 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.zdnet.com/doc/?p=1070 | Feb 07 16:04 |
| schestowitz | I can't believe the naivety here | Feb 07 16:04 |
| schestowitz | It's looking goof for OOOo http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Study-21-of-German-PCs-run-OpenOffice-919501.html http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2358571,00.asp | Feb 07 16:11 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Study: > 21% of German PCs run OpenOffice - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 31.29 KB | Feb 07 16:11 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Sun-Oracle Merger Looks Bright for OpenOffice, MySQL - Reviews by PC Magazine .::. Size~: 81.46 KB | Feb 07 16:11 |
| schestowitz | I love O[racle]OOO, it's OOOO so delicious | Feb 07 16:12 |
| schestowitz | But lots of fat :-| | Feb 07 16:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: that's why buying the player in the other market segment makes (business) sense. | Feb 07 16:16 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: of course it still boggles the mind that this kind of conglomeration is legal | Feb 07 16:17 |
| FurnaceBoy | but, for US corps, money shalt be the whole of the law | Feb 07 16:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Wikimedia blog: How smart people fail to share. http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2010/02/07/how-smart-people-fail-to-share/ | Feb 07 16:18 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: David Gerard » Blog Archive » How smart people fail to share. .::. Size~: 11.24 KB | Feb 07 16:18 |
| schestowitz | http://itnews.com.au/News/166251,sa-backs-down-on-unpopular-censorship-law.aspx | Feb 07 16:20 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: yes | Feb 07 16:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/5502/the_corporate_takeover_of_u.s._democracy/ | Feb 07 16:21 |
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| schestowitz | http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/02/corporation-says-it-will-run-for-congress/ | Feb 07 16:21 |
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| schestowitz | \o/ http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/technology/New-approach-sought-with-open-source-desktops | Feb 07 16:25 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Computerworld > New approach sought with open source desktops .::. Size~: 21.16 KB | Feb 07 16:25 |
| schestowitz | http://pblog.bna.com/techlaw/2010/02/court-finds-constitutional-significance-in-defendants-failure-to-passwordprotect-home-wireless-netwo.html | Feb 07 16:26 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: TechLaw: Court Finds Constitutional Significance in Defendant's Failure to Password-Protect Home Wireless Network .::. Size~: 38.61 KB | Feb 07 16:26 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: | Feb 07 16:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.groklaw.net/newsitems.php?page=2 | Feb 07 16:34 |
| schestowitz | "[PJ: I think if you read through the exhibits we are publishing from the Comes v. Microsoft antitrust litigation, you will see that it was hardly accidental.] - Dick Brass, NY Times Op-Ed" | Feb 07 16:34 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Groklaw - Digging for Truth .::. Size~: 34.59 KB | Feb 07 16:34 |
| schestowitz | Re: "highly repentant, largely accidental monopolist." | Feb 07 16:34 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Feb 07 16:34 |
| schestowitz | "We just so goooooooooood! It's accidental" | Feb 07 16:34 |
| schestowitz | "Poor us... we became a monopolist" | Feb 07 16:34 |
| MarcusKoze | "help us find the cure" ;)) | Feb 07 16:35 |
| MarcusKoze | hi people | Feb 07 16:35 |
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| schestowitz | MarcusKoze: no cure for Hubris | Feb 07 16:39 |
| schestowitz | Let's bring out the Nemesis (GNU) :-) | Feb 07 16:39 |
| MarcusKoze | meh, may God have mercy on their souls, i wouldn't have mercy on their eyes | Feb 07 16:40 |
| schestowitz | http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/57070 | Feb 07 16:41 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Cisco backdoor still open | NetworkWorld.com Community .::. Size~: 110.75 KB | Feb 07 16:41 |
| schestowitz | If it makes you feel any better, MarcusKoze, they were born to monopolise | Feb 07 16:41 |
| MarcusKoze | nope, didnt help at all | Feb 07 16:42 |
| schestowitz | Like the kid who grew up in a rich family groomed to pillage and plunder society... nothing ACCIDENTAL about it | Feb 07 16:42 |
| schestowitz | I love how they tail fairy tails | Feb 07 16:42 |
| schestowitz | The white horse with a knight holding a PC... | Feb 07 16:42 |
| MarcusKoze | =)) | Feb 07 16:42 |
| schestowitz | The kid who grew up poor, found computing, etc. | Feb 07 16:42 |
| schestowitz | AFAIK, Apple are the same... rich upbringing | Feb 07 16:43 |
| schestowitz | Google too | Feb 07 16:43 |
| schestowitz | Page's dad is a professor | Feb 07 16:43 |
| schestowitz | Brin's to | Feb 07 16:43 |
| schestowitz | *too | Feb 07 16:43 |
| schestowitz | His mom work/ed for NASA IIRC | Feb 07 16:43 |
| schestowitz | I wonder if Brin's dad still lectures | Feb 07 16:43 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2005/09/12/roots-of-authority/ | Feb 07 16:43 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Roots of Authority .::. Size~: 29.27 KB | Feb 07 16:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.the-source.com/2010/02/microsoft-exec-calls-for-internet-drivers-license/ | Feb 07 16:47 |
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| FurnaceBoy | Microsoft operating systems: unsafe at any speed. DOn't belong on the public internet. | Feb 07 16:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2010/February/10-opa-128.html | Feb 07 16:49 |
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| schestowitz | Did the FSF flip-flop on the Google book settlement? | Feb 07 16:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: when Microsoft is gone, verdict can be 'accidental death' for all I care | Feb 07 16:49 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: gives a whole new meaning to "accidnetal" | Feb 07 16:49 |
| schestowitz | [driver's licence] | Feb 07 16:49 |
| schestowitz | Ah | Feb 07 16:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | oh, we accidentally subverted the law | Feb 07 16:49 |
| schestowitz | beat me to it | Feb 07 16:49 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Two huge bags of clean washing sorted and mostly put away. Assault commenced on other side of bed. Pause for choking on dust. | Feb 07 16:52 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/02/quantum-logic-atomic-clock/ | Feb 07 16:55 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Ultra-Precise Quantum-Logic Clock Puts Old Atomic Clock to Shame | Wired Science | Wired.com .::. Size~: 91.9 KB | Feb 07 16:55 |
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| schestowitz | Hey, FurnaceBoy. wb | Feb 07 16:57 |
| fewa | http://www.gnu.org/graphics/jesus-cartoon.html | Feb 07 16:57 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Cartoon - Free Software Foundation (FSF) .::. Size~: 6.9 KB | Feb 07 16:57 |
| schestowitz | Zinn died | Feb 07 16:57 |
| schestowitz | and http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/5502/the_corporate_takeover_of_u.s._democracy/ | Feb 07 16:57 |
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| schestowitz | Oops. I meant " fewa" | Feb 07 16:58 |
| fewa | "US Democracy" | Feb 07 16:58 |
| fewa | lol | Feb 07 16:58 |
| schestowitz | I saw that cartoon some days ago | Feb 07 16:58 |
| schestowitz | It's not new | Feb 07 16:58 |
| fewa | not at federal level at least, at least for 100 years | Feb 07 16:58 |
| schestowitz | PJ: "Would those, by any chance, be patented genetically modified seeds? If so, who benefits? The poor?" | Feb 07 16:59 |
| schestowitz | re Gates Foundary 2 weeks ago | Feb 07 16:59 |
| fewa | David Suzuki has a great talk on that topic | Feb 07 16:59 |
| fewa | and comes as a scientist who has done research in the field | Feb 07 16:59 |
| schestowitz | Can you find it? | Feb 07 16:59 |
| fewa | and is well respected | Feb 07 16:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Where RMS and Linus agree: "I generally hate phones - they are irritating and disturb you as you work..." http://ur1.ca/loiv | Feb 07 17:00 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Linus' blog: Happy camper .::. Size~: 114.87 KB | Feb 07 17:00 |
| Murloc | true | Feb 07 17:01 |
| fewa | this is a short one: http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/food-for-life/356 | Feb 07 17:04 |
| fewa | but there is a whole talk | Feb 07 17:04 |
| fewa | to the technical audience | Feb 07 17:04 |
| fewa | and very persuasive | Feb 07 17:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | DoJ, EU: "Oh, we accidentally found you guilty." | Feb 07 17:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: "Paaaaaaaaaaaandering??!??!?!" | Feb 07 17:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: good morning | Feb 07 17:05 |
| *FurnaceBoy has breakfast, largely accidentally | Feb 07 17:05 | |
| fewa | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-23177652957550453 | Feb 07 17:07 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: David Suzuki .::. Size~: 36.87 KB | Feb 07 17:07 |
| fewa | that might be it | Feb 07 17:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] I was wrong. Palin has the most important qualification for President: Ability to stick to a cynical, irrelevant & false script, as directed | Feb 07 17:15 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] "You should see what I have up my sleeve." | Feb 07 17:17 | |
| schestowitz | fewa thanks | Feb 07 17:18 |
| schestowitz | he's gone | Feb 07 17:18 |
| FurnaceBoy | gooooooooooone | Feb 07 17:18 |
| FurnaceBoy | largely accidentally | Feb 07 17:18 |
| _goblin | Quote "I was wrong. Palin has the most important qualification for President: Ability to stick to a cynical, irrelevant & false script, as directed" | Feb 07 17:20 |
| _goblin | yeah, but she is fit. | Feb 07 17:20 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] New Blog Post | Dentiquette | The Digital Prism http://tinyurl.com/yz9s593 | Feb 07 17:29 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 8x8 pixel Jedi. http://www.flickr.com/photos/23090029@N06/sets/72157623182916763/ #icons | Feb 07 17:36 | |
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| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: ^^ the bot has a problem with some valid urls | Feb 07 17:39 |
| schestowitz | http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/06/rumored-windows-phone-7-details-surface-ahead-of-mwc-launch-zun/ | Feb 07 17:40 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Hello Kitty Love Hotel Bondage http://www.kittyhell.com/2007/01/18/hello-kitty-love-hotel-bondage/ | Feb 07 17:48 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #uk phone books delivered per year, visualised: http://flickr.com/photos/stevefaeembra/4191305384 http://www.saynotophonebooks.org/ #waste | Feb 07 17:49 | |
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| schestowitz | What's w/ this choice of photo? http://www.perezstart.com/microsoft/xbox360-microsoft/microsoft-cuts-off-original-xbox-titles-from-xbox-live-on-apr-15th/9548/ | Feb 07 17:49 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Live in #UK? (or expatriate who'd sign the petition?) http://www.saynotophonebooks.org/ http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/NoPhonebooks #waste | Feb 07 17:52 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] If you're going to do good science, release the computer code too | Technology | guardian.co.uk http://tinyurl.com/ycnnzgc | Feb 07 17:56 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.intomobile.com/2010/02/03/symbians-countdown-was-to-announce-that-the-entire-os-is-now-open-source-and-free-for-all.html | Feb 07 18:33 |
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| schestowitz | The Fauxopen sourcers for Mono........... | Feb 07 18:39 |
| schestowitz | RT @directhex: And that was #fosdem! Big thanks to the organizers - and extra | Feb 07 18:39 |
| schestowitz | special thanks to our Mono room cameraman @andriusbentkus | Feb 07 18:39 |
| schestowitz | Guess who from? | Feb 07 18:39 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] "float like a bee, sting like a butterfly" - The #Microsoft motto for innovation lol | Feb 07 18:42 | |
| schestowitz | Brewing anti-Obama site from the opposers to banksters...... http://barackobama666com.blogspot.com/2010/02/barack-obama-listen-to-what-people-want.html | Feb 07 18:44 |
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| schestowitz | Matt Asay almost went working for Microsoft some years ago, but a lot of people do know this. | Feb 07 18:46 |
| Murloc | Roy | Feb 07 18:53 |
| Murloc | Im thinking of adding Grid computer service to the program that would pc when idle to power up other projects :p | Feb 07 18:55 |
| Murloc | use pc* | Feb 07 18:56 |
| schestowitz | Bill & Microsoft have just used the UN to colonise Africa | Feb 07 18:57 |
| schestowitz | Bill has connections there. | Feb 07 18:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.africanews.com/site/ECA_seal_ICT_deal_with_Microsoft/list_messages/29758 | Feb 07 18:58 |
| schestowitz | More UN corruption | Feb 07 18:58 |
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| schestowitz | WOw | Feb 07 19:06 |
| schestowitz | That Gates stuff is scary | Feb 07 19:06 |
| schestowitz | he's using the UN now to make seeds monopoly | Feb 07 19:07 |
| schestowitz | He's ripping African off... it's not just Microsoft anymore. | Feb 07 19:07 |
| schestowitz | I'll hopefully do a post about it tomorrow | Feb 07 19:07 |
| schestowitz | I have about 10 references | Feb 07 19:07 |
| schestowitz | http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/technology/2010-01-27-Tablet27_CV_N.htm | Feb 07 19:07 |
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| schestowitz | I can't believe Groklaw plays apologist for Apple | Feb 07 19:08 |
| schestowitz | http://googlewatch.eweek.com/content/google_vs_apple/apple_ceo_steve_jobs_is_no_joker_when_it_comes_to_google.html | Feb 07 19:10 |
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| schestowitz | Says the hypocrite | Feb 07 19:10 |
| schestowitz | http://www.internetnews.com/webcontent/article.php/3860906/Yahoo+Revenue+Dips+in+Q4+But+Shows+Signs+of+Life.htm | Feb 07 19:16 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Yahoo Revenue Dips in Q4, But Shows Signs of Life - InternetNews.com .::. Size~: 147.31 KB | Feb 07 19:16 |
| schestowitz | deceiving headline from Matt Hartley: http://www.cooltechzone.com/2010/02/02/watchout-google-facebooks-larger-than-yahoo-and-microsoft/ | Feb 07 19:17 |
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| schestowitz | Comment: | Feb 07 19:21 |
| schestowitz | http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/25/microsofts-bill-gates-defends-google-then-pans-it/ | Feb 07 19:21 |
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| schestowitz | "Gates: "Monopolist? Standard Oil was a monopoly? Wuuut?" " | Feb 07 19:21 |
| schestowitz | " At least Bill is not hypocritical ... " | Feb 07 19:21 |
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| schestowitz | Geez! This one is both unattractive and silly http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/02/microsoft_researchs_self-powered_tv_remote_no_batteries_needed.html | Feb 07 19:38 |
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| schestowitz | What next? Calculators that use solar power? Oh, wait.. | Feb 07 19:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/06/pedobear-official-ma.html | Feb 07 19:41 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @mparent77772 #Pedobear: 2010 #Vancouver #Olympics mascot? http://bit.ly/bTOZAo #yyj #canada | Feb 07 19:44 | |
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| FurnaceBoy | http://twitter.com/jeremyscahill/status/8773763793 | Feb 07 19:49 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Inbox down to 99 emails, 0 unread. Holy crap! | Feb 07 19:50 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @07shari22 #itkillsme that 3 american hikers in Evin Prison now // cuz only imprisoned americans matter; Guantanamo much? | Feb 07 19:55 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/04/technology/companies/04cisco.html | Feb 07 19:57 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/energy/exxon-mobils-2009-profit-of-1942-billion-off-56-percent-from-2008/1069924 | Feb 07 19:57 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Exxon Mobil's 2009 profit of $19.42 billion off 56 percent from 2008 - St. Petersburg Times .::. Size~: 56.46 KB | Feb 07 19:57 |
| schestowitz | Holy c* | Feb 07 19:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.techjackal.net/gaming/2010/01/28/nintendo-profit-drops-from-christmas-sales/ | Feb 07 19:58 |
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| schestowitz | Off photo selection.. | Feb 07 19:58 |
| schestowitz | Nintendo uses cleavage to make sales? | Feb 07 19:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | WHO KNEW! | Feb 07 20:00 |
| schestowitz | With those braids... | Feb 07 20:01 |
| schestowitz | Like it's a young gal | Feb 07 20:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] someone needs to create a mic technology that clips out cliches in interviews like "at the end of the day" | Feb 07 20:01 | |
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| schestowitz | Nintendo guns for pervy ol' men | Feb 07 20:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tradingmarkets.com/news/stock-alert/msft_dj-obama-meeting-with-microsoft-s-ballmer-amex-s-chenault-8-other-execs-754136.html | Feb 07 20:04 |
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| schestowitz | Obama to receive more instructions :-) | Feb 07 20:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @Symbolman RT @mlomb: Every 5 seconds a computer gets infected with a virus. #coolfacts // correction: a #Microsoft #WINDOWS computer | Feb 07 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | INNOVA~1 and patents | Feb 07 20:04 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: not true numbers | Feb 07 20:05 |
| schestowitz | With about 400 million zombie PCs it's more like 5 per second and more | Feb 07 20:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @techweenie recent plastic surgery has changed Palin's face // It's the Cabbage Patch look: http://bit.ly/ddcGq1 ; all downhill from here | Feb 07 20:09 | |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: I know | Feb 07 20:09 |
| schestowitz | http://www.slashgear.com/rumor-claims-nintendo-turned-down-project-natal-tech-2871844/ | Feb 07 20:20 |
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| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: don't propagate propaganda :-) | Feb 07 20:20 |
| schestowitz | I am sometimes tempted to cite articles that say something about Net Apps #s | Feb 07 20:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: let's find the true figure then | Feb 07 20:21 |
| schestowitz | Same with those that quote Gartner | Feb 07 20:21 |
| schestowitz | Or those which say "WOW! Microsoft's profit just went up 60%" | Feb 07 20:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: but that rate of every 5 seconds seemed wrong, for sure | Feb 07 20:21 |
| schestowitz | It's actually all down | Feb 07 20:21 |
| schestowitz | Millions of Windows PCs get infected every day | Feb 07 20:21 |
| schestowitz | That's many per second | Feb 07 20:22 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes. | Feb 07 20:22 |
| FurnaceBoy | it seemed more egregious to omit mention of windows | Feb 07 20:22 |
| schestowitz | >> ..."[PJ: Some of the responses are downright worrisome.] - , | Feb 07 20:23 |
| schestowitz | >> > UbuntuForum comment" | Feb 07 20:23 |
| schestowitz | > Yes, that one does show a good sampling of the strangeness that is M$, | Feb 07 20:23 |
| schestowitz | > you see some of the same kind of postings elsewhere. BTW would you | Feb 07 20:23 |
| schestowitz | > have an idea how many users around the world either have dialup speeds | Feb 07 20:23 |
| schestowitz | > or bandwidth caps? Those are the ones screwed by the bait-and-switch | Feb 07 20:24 |
| schestowitz | > move by Ubuntu 10.04. | Feb 07 20:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Feb 07 20:24 |
| schestowitz | >> Matt Asay almost went working for Microsoft some years ago, but a lot of | Feb 07 20:24 |
| schestowitz | >> > people do know this. | Feb 07 20:24 |
| schestowitz | > I was wondering that. What are the details and how does the timing | Feb 07 20:24 |
| schestowitz | > coincide with his move to Mac? | Feb 07 20:24 |
| schestowitz | "Microsoft Corp. has posted a 60% increase in quarterly profit" | Feb 07 20:32 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nugget.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2282958 | Feb 07 20:32 |
| schestowitz | It's a lies they can say it's true | Feb 07 20:32 |
| schestowitz | "Today I ate twice as much as yesterday..........." | Feb 07 20:32 |
| schestowitz | [cause I fasted yesterday] | Feb 07 20:32 |
| schestowitz | "Mike ran 60% faster this year" | Feb 07 20:32 |
| schestowitz | [he wasn't running professionally last year | Feb 07 20:33 |
| schestowitz | How to tell a lie without it counting a lie....... live and learn PR scum | Feb 07 20:33 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/article/Don-Dodge-The-new-antiMicrosoft-evangelist/1265226378 | Feb 07 20:40 |
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| schestowitz | Joe Wilxx | Feb 07 20:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Bear in the Big Blue House has just finished on TV...of which Im forced to sit through by the lad.....my brain has now melted. #tv | Feb 07 20:41 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] It has occurred to me that Vista RTM goes back to 2006 and I rarely ever see it around the UK (same with 7) | Feb 07 20:49 | |
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| _goblin | schestowitz: Those people just go to show that they will champion anything with a pay packet...far from just damaging to MS it shows that people like Don give opinions based on employment not honest held belief in my opinion..... Just like if Ballmer worked for Apple or Canonical he'd be praising them instead....hypocracy and opinion based on money...end of story. | Feb 07 20:52 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz indeed. i have seen precisely 2 instances of vista in the wild, both on high-end laptops. | Feb 07 20:53 | |
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| kentma | hi | Feb 07 21:11 |
| schestowitz | Hey | Feb 07 21:18 |
| schestowitz | WHat's new? | Feb 07 21:18 |
| kentma | oh man - I'm very worried. | Feb 07 21:18 |
| schestowitz | Has anything happened? | Feb 07 21:19 |
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| kentma | yes - major poblem | Feb 07 21:20 |
| kentma | problem. | Feb 07 21:20 |
| kentma | I'm really worried about Homer - have you heard from him recently? | Feb 07 21:20 |
| schestowitz | He's in COLA | Feb 07 21:23 |
| schestowitz | Seems happier than before | Feb 07 21:23 |
| kentma | No, he's not... | Feb 07 21:23 |
| schestowitz | The influences on him are interesting | Feb 07 21:23 |
| schestowitz | he is more 'politically' active | Feb 07 21:24 |
| schestowitz | I actually admire some of his work | Feb 07 21:25 |
| kentma | that's as may be, but... I'm concerned - he's just *plonked* me, because I don't agree with his views on Star Trek... this seems to be, well, somewhat disproportionate to me, to say the least. Actually, I'm stunned. | Feb 07 21:25 |
| schestowitz | Either a joke or faker | Feb 07 21:25 |
| schestowitz | He's not like this and he seems fond of you | Feb 07 21:25 |
| schestowitz | Maybe a bad day | Feb 07 21:25 |
| kentma | No, it's not. He's also removed me from the "cola"stats. | Feb 07 21:25 |
| schestowitz | Heh. I'd take it humourously if anything | Feb 07 21:26 |
| kentma | That's why I'm worried - this is not a rational thing to do... | Feb 07 21:26 |
| schestowitz | I didn't watch the argument closely | Feb 07 21:26 |
| kentma | No, he means it. | Feb 07 21:26 |
| kentma | I thought it was all completely light-hearted, but apparently not. | Feb 07 21:26 |
| schestowitz | Maybe moody | Feb 07 21:26 |
| schestowitz | He gets trolled a lot | Feb 07 21:26 |
| kentma | Well, if you think he's okay, then fair enough, but I'm worried. | Feb 07 21:26 |
| schestowitz | They do the tricks they try on judges | Feb 07 21:26 |
| schestowitz | To incite him for irrational reaction | Feb 07 21:27 |
| schestowitz | COLA has trigger-happy people | Feb 07 21:27 |
| schestowitz | kentma: seems all right to me | Feb 07 21:27 |
| schestowitz | I mean, I would not jump to conclusions or anything | Feb 07 21:27 |
| schestowitz | Another one is Matt | Feb 07 21:28 |
| schestowitz | I don't think it's good to argue with jim | Feb 07 21:28 |
| schestowitz | *him | Feb 07 21:28 |
| schestowitz | he has this x-platform agenda | Feb 07 21:28 |
| schestowitz | But he seems to be on our side | Feb 07 21:28 |
| kentma | Matt has gone down some weird rabbit hole, | Feb 07 21:28 |
| schestowitz | It seems bad when we argue among ourselves | Feb 07 21:28 |
| schestowitz | kentma: maybe, but he's not there to troll | Feb 07 21:28 |
| schestowitz | He looks for Linux success stories | Feb 07 21:28 |
| schestowitz | Better to assume one is a friend | Feb 07 21:29 |
| schestowitz | I insulted some person whom I assumed (wrongly) to be a troll | Feb 07 21:29 |
| kentma | well yeah, but about /star trek/ ? It's just fantasy. The whole discussion was about different kinds of fantasy and their underlying philosophies. | Feb 07 21:29 |
| kentma | I wouldn't worry about that. | Feb 07 21:29 |
| kentma | I'm very worried about Keith, though - it seems to be very very odd behaviour. | Feb 07 21:29 |
| cubezzz | the original show was pretty good :) | Feb 07 21:30 |
| kentma | star trek? oh god - don't start again :-D | Feb 07 21:30 |
| cubezzz | did you know that they used the navigator console to be the original transporter console? :) | Feb 07 21:31 |
| schestowitz | :-D :--D | Feb 07 21:31 |
| schestowitz | I only watched it as a teenager | Feb 07 21:31 |
| kentma | Well, I rather like star-trek, and have seen every episode of every series, plus every film. Even the pilot episode. | Feb 07 21:31 |
| kentma | *but*, I don't romanticise it. | Feb 07 21:31 |
| kentma | Hence I can talk on the subject, well, with some authority :-) | Feb 07 21:32 |
| kentma | anyway, I'm very worried about Homer. | Feb 07 21:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] DW/LJ: And I hate the trees. And I hate the flowers. http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/27859.html http://is.gd/7TJyv | Feb 07 21:34 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: reddragdiva | And I hate the trees. And I hate the flowers. .::. Size~: 28.33 KB | Feb 07 21:34 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: reddragdiva: And I hate the trees. And I hate the flowers. .::. Size~: 19.67 KB | Feb 07 21:34 |
| cubezzz | animated too? :) | Feb 07 21:35 |
| cubezzz | I'm old enough to remember the first run of those | Feb 07 21:35 |
| cubezzz | *ahem* anyways :) | Feb 07 21:35 |
| kentma | I watched them in the 1970s | Feb 07 21:35 |
| kentma | TOS, I mean. | Feb 07 21:36 |
| kentma | I didn't see the pilot episode then, I've seen that more recently, though. | Feb 07 21:36 |
| kentma | But it does explain one of the later TOS episodes which is otherwise rather hard to understand. | Feb 07 21:36 |
| cubezzz | there's a longer version of "Where No Man has Gone Before" | Feb 07 21:36 |
| cubezzz | it might be on bluray now | Feb 07 21:37 |
| kentma | Is that the name of the new film? | Feb 07 21:37 |
| cubezzz | no! | Feb 07 21:37 |
| cubezzz | the 2nd pilot | Feb 07 21:37 |
| cubezzz | you know the episode with Gary Mitchell? | Feb 07 21:37 |
| kentma | there was a two-part episode, but I thought only one pilot? | Feb 07 21:38 |
| cubezzz | two pilots... | Feb 07 21:38 |
| schestowitz | It has occurred to me that homer maybe omitted the digests | Feb 07 21:38 |
| cubezzz | NBC rejected the first pilot | Feb 07 21:38 |
| schestowitz | Maybe that has something to do with stats changing | Feb 07 21:38 |
| cubezzz | so they shot a 2nd one | Feb 07 21:38 |
| schestowitz | Among a combination of issues, maybe momentary/reflex | Feb 07 21:38 |
| kentma | I know the one with Captain Archer and Spock | Feb 07 21:39 |
| *amarsh04 has been watching the star trek new voyages/phase II fan-made episodes | Feb 07 21:39 | |
| kentma | sorry, Pike! | Feb 07 21:39 |
| amarsh04 | then again they've had writers and actors from TOS / TNG | Feb 07 21:39 |
| cubezzz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_No_Man_Has_Gone_Before | Feb 07 21:40 |
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| cubezzz | yeah :) | Feb 07 21:40 |
| kentma | ah, yes, just looked it up, yes, I know the menagerie well... | Feb 07 21:40 |
| cubezzz | I saw a couple of those | Feb 07 21:40 |
| cubezzz | "It was produced in 1965 after the first pilot, "The Cage", had been rejected by NBC. The episode was eventually broadcast third in sequence on September 22, 1966, and was re-aired on April 20, 1967." | Feb 07 21:40 |
| kentma | Yes, I've seen all of them, I just hadn't realised that the 2nd one was a Pilot. | Feb 07 21:41 |
| cubezzz | I even have a air check of star trek | Feb 07 21:41 |
| kentma | Anyway, I was born in 1964, but watched them on the bbc in the 1970s. | Feb 07 21:41 |
| kentma | :-) | Feb 07 21:42 |
| cubezzz | complete with commercials from the 60's :) | Feb 07 21:42 |
| kentma | hehe :-) we didn't get them on bbc. | Feb 07 21:42 |
| kentma | and still don't. | Feb 07 21:42 |
| cubezzz | ah, so you would have seen it later then | Feb 07 21:42 |
| cubezzz | Star Trek was unique, it had smoking commercials, immediately followed by non-smoking ads | Feb 07 21:42 |
| kentma | I recall them from being maybe 6 or 7 years old, something like that, but they were showed for several years into the late 1970s. | Feb 07 21:43 |
| kentma | Blake's 7 eclipsed it, eventually - far more subversive :-) | Feb 07 21:43 |
| cubezzz | I think I saw that once | Feb 07 21:43 |
| amarsh04 | where I lived, one group screened TOS episodes at a small cinema | Feb 07 21:44 |
| kentma | :-) | Feb 07 21:44 |
| cubezzz | 16 mm? | Feb 07 21:44 |
| cubezzz | they are floating around still | Feb 07 21:44 |
| amarsh04 | yes cubezzz | Feb 07 21:44 |
| kentma | Blake's 7 is brilliant. Similar effects budget to Star Trek, but magnificent stories, and not quite so "disney". | Feb 07 21:44 |
| cubezzz | no one remembers "The Starlost" :) | Feb 07 21:44 |
| amarsh04 | yes, I used to watch Blake's 7 | Feb 07 21:44 |
| kentma | Several episodes are still top-notch even by today's standards. | Feb 07 21:45 |
| cubezzz | I assume Blake's 7 is available on DVD? | Feb 07 21:45 |
| kentma | Yes. | Feb 07 21:45 |
| cubezzz | what do you think of the current Dr Who? | Feb 07 21:46 |
| kentma | The quality is not great, they were shot on 16mm film in the first place, and it was very very low budget. | Feb 07 21:46 |
| amarsh04 | Tennant? | Feb 07 21:46 |
| cubezzz | yes | Feb 07 21:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@H_FJ @splorp People keep all kinds of things in storage facilities. // There's a VAX-11/750 in mine... | Feb 07 21:46 | |
| kentma | Dr Who? Well, it's got a good budget for the first time ever, which means it's slick and, well, impressive. | Feb 07 21:46 |
| amarsh04 | I think he was pretty good, but I didn't watch that series, more used to Jon Pertwee / Tom Baker and later | Feb 07 21:47 |
| cubezzz | I liked the original guy | Feb 07 21:47 |
| kentma | It's a bit too "mystical" in parts for me, though. Torchwood, however, is much more adult. | Feb 07 21:47 |
| kentma | Peter Cushing? | Feb 07 21:47 |
| amarsh04 | William Hartnell / Patrick what's is name | Feb 07 21:48 |
| cubezzz | ummm, no | Feb 07 21:48 |
| cubezzz | yeah | Feb 07 21:48 |
| cubezzz | Hartnell | Feb 07 21:48 |
| cubezzz | I remember Cushing from the movie though | Feb 07 21:48 |
| kentma | Patrick Troughton was the 2nd | Feb 07 21:48 |
| cubezzz | I liked the one with the 5 doctors | Feb 07 21:49 |
| kentma | It was always a children's show, really, though. | Feb 07 21:49 |
| kentma | It was shown in the 5pm saturday night slot, as a sort of "family" show. | Feb 07 21:49 |
| cubezzz | Troughton was the little guy? | Feb 07 21:50 |
| cubezzz | then the 3rd one rode around in that old car | Feb 07 21:50 |
| kentma | yes, but so was Silvester Mccoy | Feb 07 21:50 |
| kentma | That was Jon Pertwee - one-time comedy actor - in the excellent "navy lark" amongst many others. | Feb 07 21:50 |
| cubezzz | Tom Baker :) | Feb 07 21:51 |
| cubezzz | yeah I remember him | Feb 07 21:51 |
| kentma | He's my favourite - thoroughly subversive, very funny. | Feb 07 21:51 |
| cubezzz | Pertwee did comedy? | Feb 07 21:52 |
| cubezzz | I didn't know that | Feb 07 21:52 |
| kentma | yes, that was his real metier | Feb 07 21:52 |
| kentma | Dr Who was a bit of an anomoly | Feb 07 21:53 |
| kentma | anomaly | Feb 07 21:53 |
| cubezzz | we don't get a lot of British shows over here, but CBC runs Dr Who | Feb 07 21:54 |
| kentma | UK is mostly exporting formats at the moment, like pop idol, x-factor, strictly-come dancing, big brother, the office, who wants to be a millionaire, the weakest link... | Feb 07 21:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @mparent77772 Wars sending U.S. into ruin http://bit.ly/c6JPgd // mindboggling, if familiar, statistics #war | Feb 07 21:56 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Wars sending U.S. into ruin | Eric Margolis | Columnists | Comment | Toronto Sun .::. Size~: 65.13 KB | Feb 07 21:56 |
| kentma | Can't say I'm a particular fan, apart from weakst link which is not bad as these things go. | Feb 07 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Another Microsoft Vice President has just quit | Feb 07 21:57 |
| kentma | which one? | Feb 07 21:57 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/193436.asp?from=blog_last3 | Feb 07 21:57 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft VP leaves in Education Products shake-up .::. Size~: 60.73 KB | Feb 07 21:57 |
| schestowitz | It has only been days since another VP left | Feb 07 21:58 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_Major_Departure | Feb 07 21:58 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft - Major Departure - Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 20.76 KB | Feb 07 21:58 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/188270/mike_manos_quits_digital_realty_trust_joins_nokia.html | Feb 07 21:59 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Mike Manos Quits Digital Realty Trust, Joins Nokia - PCWorld .::. Size~: 69.71 KB | Feb 07 21:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | kentma: I re-watched all of Blake's 7 a couple of years ago. Firefly seemed to borrow a lot :) | Feb 07 22:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | Troughton was just before my time. I came in at Pertwee and finished with Tristan, whathisname | Feb 07 22:04 |
| kentma | You mean Davison? | Feb 07 22:06 |
| kentma | The cricketer? | Feb 07 22:06 |
| kentma | ex-vet :-) | Feb 07 22:06 |
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| FurnaceBoy | yeah Davison. Peter. | Feb 07 22:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | ex-vet Tristan | Feb 07 22:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | thanks | Feb 07 22:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | i saw him for years in ALl Creatures, never imagined he'd be Dr Who -- still doesn't fit, to me ;-) | Feb 07 22:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | but then, I still think of Brideshead when I see Jeremy Irons. :) | Feb 07 22:07 |
| cubezzz | Jeremy Irons did some SF | Feb 07 22:08 |
| cubezzz | umm, "The TIme Machine" | Feb 07 22:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | heh | Feb 07 22:09 |
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| cubezzz | I did enjoy some of the Hartnell episodes | Feb 07 22:10 |
| cubezzz | Hartnell seemed to be the quintessential Dr Who | Feb 07 22:10 |
| _goblin | are people aware (and I appologize if Im slow Ive been busy at work all week) but Canonical seem to be considering leaving out OpenOffice in Lucid...? | Feb 07 22:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: everybody's quintessential Who is different. Mine would be Tom Bakr. | Feb 07 22:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | er* | Feb 07 22:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | I agree with kentma, he had a subversive streak | Feb 07 22:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | Blake's 7 kicked ass. re-watching it was great. | Feb 07 22:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | highly recommended. | Feb 07 22:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | more consistent quality than BSG by far ! | Feb 07 22:13 |
| *FurnaceBoy ducks | Feb 07 22:13 | |
| FurnaceBoy | best point of modern comparison might be Firefly imho | Feb 07 22:13 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Im finding Brasero a little unreliable, has issues with disks being unmounted....switched back to K3b - no such issues. #linux #foss | Feb 07 22:34 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Canonical is considering leaving Open Office out of its Lucid NBR...to replace with what? #ubuntu #canonical #llinux #foss | Feb 07 22:35 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Not that it matters much. So many distro's to choose from, if Lucid fails to impress users, theres plenty of alternatives DSL or Puppy etc | Feb 07 22:36 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @ballardian Kander's photos "glimpse of what a Ballardian sensibility might create" http://bit.ly/d6haRw /or a greedy,heedless one #china | Feb 07 22:46 | |
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| cubezzz | I liked Baker too | Feb 07 22:47 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] And @apiphile comes up with THE ULTIMATE SHIELD AGAINST PAEDOPHILES http://apiphile.livejournal.com/2252896.html | Feb 07 22:48 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @davidgerard I once saw the thing on a desktop !! :-) | Feb 07 22:48 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Adult Content Notice .::. Size~: 14.26 KB | Feb 07 22:48 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Get the train on weekdays at around 1030pm and be prepared for commuters who have had after work drinks stinking it out. Horrible.... #br | Feb 07 22:50 | |
| schestowitz | http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/193048.asp?from=blog_last3 http://ostatic.com/blog/new-zealand-school-shows-microsoft-the-door | Feb 07 22:50 |
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| cubezzz | oh yeah :) | Feb 07 22:51 |
| cubezzz | good news | Feb 07 22:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://twitter.com/Satyagraha_ji/status/8781242468 | Feb 07 22:51 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft can find new market in Mars | Feb 07 22:51 |
| schestowitz | Alien keyboards..... | Feb 07 22:51 |
| *FurnaceBoy toasts New Zealand good sense | Feb 07 22:52 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Watch what the man behind "Change Congress" (Prof. Larry Lessig) says. http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000002525 | Feb 07 22:52 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Against Monopoly .::. Size~: 25.27 KB | Feb 07 22:52 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: MS NZ is a mess this month | Feb 07 22:53 |
| schestowitz | http://m.nbr.co.nz/article/muckleston-temporarily-take-helm-microsoft-117498 | Feb 07 22:53 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: The National Business Review - New Zealand - business, markets, finance, politics, property, technology and more .::. Size~: 12.81 KB | Feb 07 22:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @_goblin Canonical is considering leaving Open Office out of its Lucid NBR...to replace with what? #ubuntu #canonical #llinux #foss | Feb 07 22:53 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] 2010 will probably be the year I move away from the Gnome DE completely....but it won't be KDE that I choose.. #linux #foss #gnome #kde | Feb 07 22:53 | |
| schestowitz | "All its executives in charge of music, e-books, phone, online search and tablet efforts over the past decade have left the organization." http://www.benzinga.com/markets/company-news/111155/wake-up-call-for-microsoft-aapl-amzn-msft | Feb 07 22:53 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #NZ school saves money, hardware by shunning #Microsoft http://bit.ly/8dPKkp (just 4 servers instead of **48** needed for MS-based infra!) | Feb 07 22:54 | |
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| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: it sort of legitimises him... better not to quote him, IMHO | Feb 07 22:55 |
| schestowitz | [I mean, the Hitler quote] | Feb 07 22:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] If Canonical is wanting to remove as much bloat from Lucid NBR as possible, what does the future hold for Mono on NBR? | Feb 07 22:55 | |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000002526 | Feb 07 22:55 |
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| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i know what you mean. i prefer to avoid. | Feb 07 22:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Watch for the comment "Im a Linux user but...." when reading a Microsoft advocate trying to convince you Windows is superior. #microsoft | Feb 07 22:57 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin or "I used to be an atheist" and "I used to be a Tory" | Feb 07 22:58 | |
| schestowitz | zoobab: is Digital Majority back in action? | Feb 07 22:59 |
| cubezzz | no more buts | Feb 07 23:03 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* virtual Sutor. http://www.sutor.com/c/2010/02/first-impressions-twinity/ | Feb 07 23:04 |
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| schestowitz | The "'new' Microsoft": http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/188659/microsoft_to_drop_linux_unix_versions_of_enterprise_search.html | Feb 07 23:06 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft to Drop Linux, Unix Versions of Enterprise Search - PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 59.06 KB | Feb 07 23:06 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=1258 | Feb 07 23:07 |
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| schestowitz | http://linux.die.net/man/1/alien http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/44573/how_to_become_a_certified_bbq_judge.html | Feb 07 23:08 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/31/weekinreview/31lohr.html?hpw attempt to turn PCs to "gadgets/:" | Feb 07 23:11 |
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| FurnaceBoy | "Twinity is only available for Windows." | Feb 07 23:11 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Feb 07 23:13 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Leaving it out of Lucid – More 10.04 news in a UNR form. http://tinyurl.com/ylgdgas #ubuntu #linux #foss #gnu #microsoft #windows #xp #vista | Feb 07 23:21 | |
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| schestowitz | sebsebseb: hey | Feb 07 23:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz lol..true....Btw Roy, will you consider coming to Oggcamp? Ive got the time off work....should be good. | Feb 07 23:26 | |
| schestowitz | Anyone heard of http://www.forgerock.com/openam.html ? | Feb 07 23:28 |
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| amarsh04 | morning radio just interviewed Basil Brush | Feb 07 23:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin maybe. I'll give it a thought.. | Feb 07 23:29 | |
| cubezzz | I mostly listen to 80s :) | Feb 07 23:29 |
| cubezzz | mplayer -playlist http://www.977music.com/tunein/web/80s.asx | Feb 07 23:30 |
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| schestowitz | isn't that asp? | Feb 07 23:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Hope so. | Feb 07 23:31 | |
| cubezzz | you know is rather disturbing how many people die in car accidents | Feb 07 23:37 |
| cubezzz | it's | Feb 07 23:37 |
| cubezzz | we need robotic cars or something | Feb 07 23:37 |
| _goblin | don't know if thats a good idea.....MS would fiddle the contracts for OEM.........you'd get a BSOD at 100mph and when the insurance claim came in MS would blame you.... | Feb 07 23:40 |
| _goblin | or worse hijacked by Malware and find your car on autopilot to the scammers warehouse. | Feb 07 23:41 |
| cubezzz | don't get a Microsoft Car :) | Feb 07 23:42 |
| cubezzz | for some reason I thought 2 million people die from car accidents per year, but I don't think it's that many | Feb 07 23:42 |
| cubezzz | 40K per year in the US | Feb 07 23:43 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft tries this with Ford and Kia right now | Feb 07 23:43 |
| schestowitz | The Ford thing phones 911 when the airbags come out | Feb 07 23:43 |
| schestowitz | I reckon on the eve of dec 31 2009 it would phone accidentally | Feb 07 23:44 |
| schestowitz | Making it a punishable offence | Feb 07 23:44 |
| schestowitz | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Year-2016-Text-Message-Bug-Officially-Acknowledged-131117.shtml | Feb 07 23:44 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.zarafa.com/news/6-feb-zarafa-collaboration-platform-packaged-ubuntu-and-fedora | Feb 07 23:45 |
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| schestowitz | http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2010/02/01/copyright-not-all-equal.html | Feb 07 23:48 |
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| yuhong | I just posted this as comment: | Feb 07 23:49 |
| yuhong | http://boycottnovell.com/2010/02/07/michael-arrington-microsoft-bribes/#comment-81113 | Feb 07 23:49 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Michael Arrington a Hypocrite: Bribed by Microsoft Yet Fires Bribed Bloggers | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 90.04 KB | Feb 07 23:49 |
| _goblin | In relation to Robocar I think Scotty from Startrek got it right: | Feb 07 23:51 |
| _goblin | The more you over-tech the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain. | Feb 07 23:51 |
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| yuhong | And on the "people ready" thing by MS, yea GigaOM handled it better in this case: | Feb 07 23:51 |
| cubezzz | you can be paid for a review but the review must be honest | Feb 07 23:51 |
| yuhong | http://gigaom.com/2007/06/22/on-the-microsoft-ad-campaign/ | Feb 07 23:52 |
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