| schestowitz | tessier__: ping.. | Feb 16 00:10 |
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| DaemonFC | It's France...tell him to shoot back a few times and they'll be right over with the surrender papers *grin* | Feb 16 00:18 |
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| seller_liar | bsnes author does not like mono | Feb 16 00:40 |
| yuhong | On MS planting people in other companies, yes that is in theory possible, but I'd use innocent until proven guilty here. | Feb 16 00:40 |
| seller_liar | http://byuu.org/ | Feb 16 00:40 |
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| schestowitz | bsnes? | Feb 16 00:40 |
| seller_liar | yes | Feb 16 00:41 |
| seller_liar | look about curse article | Feb 16 00:41 |
| yuhong | And so should HR and rescuiting, I think. | Feb 16 00:43 |
| *DaemonFC loves Quake Wars | Feb 16 00:43 | |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 16 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | heavy weapons are the only ones worth using B-) | Feb 16 00:44 |
| oiaohm | Ok just found why my mouse does not run perfectly smooth. Linux kernel has detected it twice. | Feb 16 00:44 |
| yuhong | schestowitz: Have you seen this: http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/02/13/0556252/Yale-Switching-To-Gmail-Not-Without-Opposition | Feb 16 00:45 |
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| schestowitz | Yes | Feb 16 00:46 |
| schestowitz | Some days ago, I think | Feb 16 00:46 |
| schestowitz | People should host their own mail | Feb 16 00:46 |
| yuhong | I think it reflect the tone of BN on this issue. | Feb 16 00:46 |
| yuhong | "While it makes sense for small (and large) corporations to move to Gmail, something seems amiss when a top private university decides to hand everything over to Google." | Feb 16 00:47 |
| yuhong | I think it reflect the tone of BN on this issue. | Feb 16 00:47 |
| oiaohm | Yale is not the only UNI | Feb 16 00:48 |
| oiaohm | a few are doing it here in australia as well yuhong | Feb 16 00:48 |
| yuhong | Or course. | Feb 16 00:48 |
| oiaohm | Thinking that MS was offering there online service here free for UNI's and schools. | Feb 16 00:48 |
| oiaohm | Something is more than wrong. | Feb 16 00:49 |
| oiaohm | Google service is not free. | Feb 16 00:49 |
| yuhong | Of course not. | Feb 16 00:49 |
| yuhong | Off topic, but: http://slashdot.org/submission/1172876/25th-anniversary-of-the-Intel-386 | Feb 16 00:50 |
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| oiaohm | Don't make me feel Old yuhong. I remember seeing them new. I really did not need to be reminded it was 25 years ago. | Feb 16 00:51 |
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| MinceR | my first pc was a 386 | Feb 16 00:51 |
| seller_liar | http://byuu.org/ | Feb 16 00:51 |
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| yuhong | How many remember this though: | Feb 16 00:51 |
| yuhong | " (which was two years after the introduction of the 286 processor, though to be honest, it seems that only buggy engineering samples was available back in 1982, and it was not until a year afterwards that a remotely usable stepping was available that was used in the first PC/ATs. Anyone remember? The 386 had some early bugs too, such as the infamous 32-bit multiply bug.)" | Feb 16 00:51 |
| oiaohm | Me | Feb 16 00:52 |
| MinceR | seller_liar: nice... i prefer khexedit/okteta though :> | Feb 16 00:52 |
| yuhong | http://groups.google.com/group/net.micro.68k/msg/6a19942cc36ee0d3 | Feb 16 00:52 |
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| oiaohm | I remember seeing the 80186 new. yuhong | Feb 16 00:52 |
| yuhong | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.intel/msg/5f01d102191c9baa | Feb 16 00:52 |
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| oiaohm | 8088 and the 8086 was just a little before me. | Feb 16 00:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Areas Where Desktop #GNU #Linux Simply Beats #Windows http://www.ghabuntu.com/2010/02/5-linux-features-i-miss-when-on-windows.html | Feb 16 00:53 | |
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| yuhong | Yea, the 186 was released only a year after the IBM PC, when most DOS apps was ports of CP/M apps which mostly did not do direct hardware access. | Feb 16 00:54 |
| oiaohm | For a public school my school had a heck old of computer hardware yuhong | Feb 16 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [00:47] <yuhong> "While it makes sense for small (and large) corporations to move to Gmail, something seems amiss when a top private university decides to hand everything over to Google." | Feb 16 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [00:47] <yuhong> I think it reflect the tone of BN on this issue. | Feb 16 00:54 |
| schestowitz | yes, it does | Feb 16 00:54 |
| schestowitz | I wrote about this months ago | Feb 16 00:54 |
| yuhong | I remember. | Feb 16 00:55 |
| oiaohm | old/load | Feb 16 00:55 |
| yuhong | Anyone remember this: "and it was only early the same year that the first AT clones by Kaypro came out, which was so early that MS hasn't licensed MS-DOS 3.x to anyone other than IBM yet." | Feb 16 00:55 |
| oiaohm | I remember to learning basic programming on mircobees that was rejected from my local high school for being too crappy. | Feb 16 00:55 |
| yuhong | http://books.google.com/books?id=8C4EAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA68&ots=Ldu4qollSo&dq=at%20clone%20kaypro&pg=PA68#v=onepage&q=at%20clone%20kaypro&f=false | Feb 16 00:55 |
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| oiaohm | 8 mircobees to 40 students. | Feb 16 00:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Polaris Makes "IStore #Linux " http://www.rttnews.com/ArticleView.aspx?Id=1211109&SMap=1 | Feb 16 00:56 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Even #Barbie Uses #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/mfol http://ur1.ca/mfom | Feb 16 00:56 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Its UID no, bank a/c & mobile phone & no more bijli, sadak & pani says nilekani http://uurl.in/H0FLU shit!(@samirsachdeva, @sunil_abraham ) | Feb 16 01:04 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @sunil_abraham: RT: @sivavaid If you want to understand the strange state of #privacy in social networks, read this http://bit.ly/cOYb7e | Feb 16 01:09 | |
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| oiaohm | http://www.osnews.com/story/22877/Microsoft_Unveils_Windows_Phone_7_Series Here goes the nasty. | Feb 16 01:23 |
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| oiaohm | http://meego.com/ Nokia web designs been let go on a web site again. | Feb 16 01:33 |
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| schestowitz | Yeah | Feb 16 01:35 |
| schestowitz | what do you make of wm7? | Feb 16 01:36 |
| schestowitz | They made it worse | Feb 16 01:36 |
| schestowitz | No multitasking | Feb 16 01:36 |
| oiaohm | And its more about online lock in. | Feb 16 01:36 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer told his engineers, "make it like MMMMMMMMEEEEEE........" | Feb 16 01:36 |
| oiaohm | No sync program so you have to send your data on line. | Feb 16 01:36 |
| schestowitz | So they made a dumb and ugly phone | Feb 16 01:36 |
| oiaohm | I guess to MS services. | Feb 16 01:36 |
| oiaohm | So MS can spy on more people. | Feb 16 01:37 |
| schestowitz | Like Sidekick | Feb 16 01:37 |
| oiaohm | Nice. | Feb 16 01:37 |
| schestowitz | I.e. data loss | Feb 16 01:37 |
| oiaohm | Yep. | Feb 16 01:37 |
| oiaohm | Like Sidekick | Feb 16 01:37 |
| oiaohm | Basically wm7 is upgraded Sidekick | Feb 16 01:37 |
| oiaohm | I would bet that is where the OS design has come from. | Feb 16 01:37 |
| cubezzz | the TSR program? | Feb 16 01:39 |
| cubezzz | SideKick Windows 8 Ultimate!!!! | Feb 16 01:41 |
| cubezzz | I even remember selling Sidekick | Feb 16 01:42 |
| cubezzz | ahh, the bad old days | Feb 16 01:42 |
| oiaohm | At least with android that thing still has a local sync option. | Feb 16 01:43 |
| oiaohm | People need to be careful how much freedom they give away to there own data. | Feb 16 01:44 |
| oiaohm | The nokia intel merge I would if there will be another this year. | Feb 16 01:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Another #Tablet Running #GNU #Linux Appears http://netbookboards.com/2010/02/15/linuxs-tablet-answer-notion-ink-adam/ | Feb 16 01:45 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenOffice .org Downloaded Over 300 Million Times http://ur1.ca/mftr http://ur1.ca/mfts http://ur1.ca/mftt | Feb 16 01:51 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Opera Embraces #BSD Licence, #Firefox Improves http://ur1.ca/mftx http://ur1.ca/mfty | Feb 16 01:53 | |
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| oiaohm | BSD selection is always double sided schestowitz. Code done in BSD alterations don't always stay open. | Feb 16 01:57 |
| cubezzz | booo | Feb 16 01:58 |
| cubezzz | actually that's an improvement though | Feb 16 01:59 |
| cubezzz | proprietary closed -> bsd license, definitely an improvement | Feb 16 01:59 |
| oiaohm | If it stays open yes. | Feb 16 02:01 |
| oiaohm | If it get help like what you get then closed back up again not nice. Basically I reserve judgement at this time. | Feb 16 02:02 |
| cubezzz | hmmm | Feb 16 02:03 |
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| DaemonFC | oiaohm, There's also nothing keeping you from forking BSD stuff and relicensing it is there? | Feb 16 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | Apple forked a lot of it and said the fork was Apple Public Source License | Feb 16 02:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @wolever in Stanford test http://bit.ly/bm1N5P @JohnDCook multitaskers were worse than control group @ everything tested //food 4 thought | Feb 16 02:08 | |
| DaemonFC | so couldn't you make a GPL fork of a BSD-licensed program? | Feb 16 02:09 |
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| cubezzz | not sure about that | Feb 16 02:09 |
| cubezzz | you could just keep the BSD version for yourself and ... keep sharing maybe? | Feb 16 02:10 |
| oiaohm | Depends on the BSD licence verison. | Feb 16 02:12 |
| oiaohm | Some of the developers from the BSD world hate the Linux kernel for overwrapping some of there code. | Feb 16 02:12 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @okfn: Mapping open government data initiatives around the world http://bit.ly/czHn0u | Feb 16 02:28 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] as in China, pesticides use in Bt cotton increases in India. dis is how scince wrks. Bringng double benfit 2 seed industry @Devinder_Sharma | Feb 16 02:35 | |
| DaemonFC | IF parts of FreeBSD being used in Linux bothers them more than parts of FreeBSD ending up in Windows and OS X, that just shows you their way of thinking | Feb 16 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | better for it to be hoarded with no chance of any help developing it? | Feb 16 02:36 |
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| Aondo | oh thought for a second there that the opera browser would go BSD :P | Feb 16 02:51 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @aashiks: * Agrees*♻ @technikhil: RT Good Read @Carnage4Life: [Blog Post] Understanding the Real-Time Web for We... http://goo.gl/fb/VnyJ | Feb 16 03:01 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @scotteweinberg here's @mtgilchrist's VALENTINE'S DAY review at @cinematical: http://bit.ly/aTd4Up // pretty well deserved shitcanning | Feb 16 03:17 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Interesting !! RT @gkjohn: CO2 = P x S x E x C http://is.gd/8tmls (via @achitnis) | Feb 16 03:47 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @Shoq RT @ebertchicago How Kubrick & Sir Clarke invented iPad http://j.mp/cuSZRv // what wd #kubrick have done with mocap tech of #Avatar | Feb 16 04:17 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@rayvelline #ADHD symptoms caused by #lead exposure, new study claims http://bit.ly/adQ3RT // I thought this was pretty old news actually | Feb 16 06:26 | |
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| Ender2070 | I was at one point diagnosed with ADHD | Feb 16 06:34 |
| Ender2070 | Ridalin turned me into a Zombie | Feb 16 06:35 |
| Ender2070 | in the end, a simple dietary modification was all that was needed | Feb 16 06:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | yeah, nasty stuff | Feb 16 06:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | i've heard a few stories like that | Feb 16 06:36 |
| Ender2070 | overdiagnosed | Feb 16 06:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | yep | Feb 16 06:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | sadly, happens a lot | Feb 16 06:36 |
| Ender2070 | yeah most of the stuff that can cause the symptoms are in foods generally given to kids as normal | Feb 16 06:36 |
| Ender2070 | food colouring even does it | Feb 16 06:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes | Feb 16 06:37 |
| Ender2070 | once I stopped drinking kool-aid, i was able to concentrate | Feb 16 06:38 |
| Ender2070 | :) | Feb 16 06:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | :) | Feb 16 06:38 |
| Ender2070 | kool-aid = food colouring + sugar + water | Feb 16 06:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | yeah | Feb 16 06:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | i find the concept of soda ridiculous and pernicious | Feb 16 06:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | i can't believe people pay so much for something so worthless at best, or actually harmful | Feb 16 06:39 |
| Ender2070 | I still drink soda | Feb 16 06:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | hopefully not the Aspartame kind | Feb 16 06:39 |
| Ender2070 | hell no | Feb 16 06:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | :) | Feb 16 06:40 |
| Ender2070 | a byproduct of aluminum waste in my soda? no way | Feb 16 06:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's a dreadful substance | Feb 16 06:40 |
| Ender2070 | I even remove flouride from my water | Feb 16 06:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | but then, the phosphoric acid seems like a really good idea too. | Feb 16 06:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | i mean, they're not in this for OUR benefit, are they. | Feb 16 06:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | there was a great tweet related, recently | Feb 16 06:41 |
| Ender2070 | ahhh a like mind :) | Feb 16 06:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | somebody quoted Michael Pollan: "it's not food, if it's called the same in every language" | Feb 16 06:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | paraphrasing:) | Feb 16 06:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, probably. I hate corporate mediation of our food/drink | Feb 16 06:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, totally pointless and harmful in every respect | Feb 16 06:42 |
| Ender2070 | i think its meant to be harmful | Feb 16 06:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | a corporation never improved a foodstuff from something natural | Feb 16 06:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | the only motive is to tax us for what nature already provides, but better | Feb 16 06:43 |
| Ender2070 | i've read books and quotes from books written by the elite who want to use food as a weapon | Feb 16 06:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | ugh, i could really rant. | Feb 16 06:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, yeah | Feb 16 06:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, it's all bad news, from whatever angle. | Feb 16 06:43 |
| Ender2070 | population control, dumbing people down, making people apathetic | Feb 16 06:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | industrialisation, control, profit, health. all negative. | Feb 16 06:43 |
| Ender2070 | then you have beer, "drink this! it'll make you fat and stupid" | Feb 16 06:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, yep. | Feb 16 06:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, like minds indeed | Feb 16 06:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, if "everybody" is doing something/ consuming something; be VERY suspicious of that. | Feb 16 06:45 |
| Ender2070 | you also have alcohol which is perfectly legal, most destructive drug out of them all | Feb 16 06:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes. | Feb 16 06:45 |
| Ender2070 | I usually have a hard time finding people who think | Feb 16 06:46 |
| Ender2070 | Which should sound ridiculous | Feb 16 06:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, nah, i get you. i find myself out of step with many people IRL, more or less. | Feb 16 06:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, certainly completely at odds with dominant culture. | Feb 16 06:48 |
| Ender2070 | Yes | Feb 16 06:48 |
| Ender2070 | dominant culture can also be scary | Feb 16 06:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | what impresses me more an more is its absurdity | Feb 16 06:50 |
| Ender2070 | i've been doing research over the last couple months that is pointing me towards a UN led communist agenda | Feb 16 06:50 |
| cubezzz | ?? | Feb 16 06:50 |
| cubezzz | sounds like paranoia | Feb 16 06:51 |
| cubezzz | and capitalist doesn't seem to be working too great ;-) | Feb 16 06:51 |
| Ender2070 | http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x32cxf_yuri-bezmenov?from=rss | Feb 16 06:52 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Dailymotion - Yuri Bezmenov - a video .::. Size~: 56.41 KB | Feb 16 06:52 |
| Ender2070 | this video, ex-kgb member explains how the kgb was programming generations of people in the US | Feb 16 06:52 |
| Ender2070 | towards socialist idealogy | Feb 16 06:52 |
| cubezzz | if anything there is an anti-communist hysteria | Feb 16 06:52 |
| cubezzz | socialist ideas like FOSS? :) | Feb 16 06:53 |
| Ender2070 | you're not allowed to say communist, but you're allowed to say socialist | Feb 16 06:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, no socialist is a dirty word in the USA | Feb 16 06:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | as they understand it.... | Feb 16 06:53 |
| cubezzz | socialism is good though, social program are good | Feb 16 06:53 |
| Ender2070 | social programs are good | Feb 16 06:53 |
| Ender2070 | marxist socialism is bad | Feb 16 06:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | in fact both words are pretty much impossible to use there, due to this 'baggage' | Feb 16 06:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | and yes, some hysteria | Feb 16 06:53 |
| cubezzz | Ender2070, did you read about McCarthy? | Feb 16 06:54 |
| Ender2070 | the UN thinks China is a model state for the world | Feb 16 06:54 |
| Ender2070 | McCarthy? | Feb 16 06:54 |
| cubezzz | yes | Feb 16 06:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | but, since so many states are bankrupt, there's not much to say about social programs. they can't even maintain the roads, hospitals, fire dept, police and schools | Feb 16 06:54 |
| cubezzz | "the Red Scare" and all that stuff | Feb 16 06:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | utah is chopping a year off high school to save money. you;d think nobody paid tax | Feb 16 06:54 |
| cubezzz | wow | Feb 16 06:55 |
| Ender2070 | the problem with the social programs is once they are implemented, they are hit with budget cuts to the point of uselessness | Feb 16 06:55 |
| cubezzz | that's not good | Feb 16 06:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | i don't think anywhere else in the West is that desperate | Feb 16 06:55 |
| cubezzz | how is Michigan doing? | Feb 16 06:55 |
| Ender2070 | you can't get a doctor very fast in canada (unless using a walk-in clinic) unless you want to be sterilized or want an abortion | Feb 16 06:55 |
| cubezzz | huh | Feb 16 06:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | well, quite a number of states are bankrupt. i think ppl should maybe ask some questions about where their taxes really went. | Feb 16 06:55 |
| cubezzz | yeah | Feb 16 06:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, not really true, in my experience. | Feb 16 06:56 |
| Ender2070 | for some operations some people are in queues for years | Feb 16 06:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, but of course, everyone sees a slightly different system... one can always find positive and negative anecdotes. | Feb 16 06:56 |
| cubezzz | I've never had a prob seeing a doctor, but I haven't been sick in a long time (not seriously) | Feb 16 06:56 |
| Ender2070 | i've seen a doctor for trivial things no problem | Feb 16 06:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | well, Canada is not really dysfunctional compared to our neighbour | Feb 16 06:57 |
| Ender2070 | non-trivial, non-life threatening operations take forever | Feb 16 06:57 |
| cubezzz | Canadian doctors couldn't be going to the States could they? | Feb 16 06:57 |
| cubezzz | with the current economy? | Feb 16 06:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, the states has a lot of immigrant doctors. read recently more Ethiopian doctors practice in the USA than in Ethiopia, for example. | Feb 16 06:57 |
| Ender2070 | I still consider myself left wing though | Feb 16 06:58 |
| cubezzz | I voted for the greens myself | Feb 16 06:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, canadians aren't emigrating in droves, the job situation in the USA is dire. | Feb 16 06:58 |
| cubezzz | yeah | Feb 16 06:58 |
| Ender2070 | I just don't trust politicians, both major parties never change the agenda or repeal any of each others laws | Feb 16 06:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, yes. the independents need to be stronger | Feb 16 06:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, to head off crap like Harper is pulling | Feb 16 06:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, he's unbelievable | Feb 16 06:59 |
| Ender2070 | yeah lol | Feb 16 06:59 |
| cubezzz | He'll be gone soon I think | Feb 16 06:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, I hope and pray (metaphorically) | Feb 16 06:59 |
| Ender2070 | he'll be gone once he gives us permission to have another election | Feb 16 06:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, :) | Feb 16 06:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, I still have faith in Canada to get rid of him | Feb 16 06:59 |
| cubezzz | some folks are even saying to just get rid of Parliament altogther :) | Feb 16 06:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, the G-G needs a good talking to | Feb 16 07:00 |
| Ender2070 | one thing they need to do is get us off our reliance on the monarch | Feb 16 07:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, and i like the suggestion just to strike prorogation from the playset | Feb 16 07:00 |
| cubezzz | I never even heard of prorogue before this | Feb 16 07:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, it makes sense just to eliminate it cold | Feb 16 07:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, i think. what could be the downside?! | Feb 16 07:00 |
| cubezzz | I don't know | Feb 16 07:00 |
| cubezzz | I just don't know enough about it | Feb 16 07:00 |
| Ender2070 | it would be better to get rid of the position of governor general | Feb 16 07:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, it seems like an abused loophole | Feb 16 07:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, harder | Feb 16 07:01 |
| Ender2070 | if we have one, we're not democratic | Feb 16 07:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, the queen is a smart cookie ... she won't give it up any time soon | Feb 16 07:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, of course, but is any nation? | Feb 16 07:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, certainly not our poor neighbours | Feb 16 07:01 |
| Ender2070 | in the 80's, there was a liberal-ndp coalition which took power away from the conservatives | Feb 16 07:01 |
| cubezzz | It's just a slow time right now | Feb 16 07:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | yeah | Feb 16 07:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, that would have returned if Harper hadn't prorogued in '08 | Feb 16 07:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, that son-of-a-bitch | Feb 16 07:02 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Feb 16 07:02 |
| cubezzz | I never voted for Harper, don't blame me :) | Feb 16 07:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, don't worry sir | Feb 16 07:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, like i said... i have faith in Canada's better nature to kick that thing out | Feb 16 07:02 |
| Ender2070 | I didn't vote in the last election | Feb 16 07:02 |
| cubezzz | The greens could have got one seat though | Feb 16 07:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, Canada is better than Harper. | Feb 16 07:03 |
| cubezzz | would have been nice | Feb 16 07:03 |
| cubezzz | oh yeah UN ranks us as 4th in the world I think | Feb 16 07:03 |
| cubezzz | Canada is a pretty good country | Feb 16 07:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | amen | Feb 16 07:04 |
| Ender2070 | if you watch that video I sent you | Feb 16 07:04 |
| Ender2070 | the 11:00 minute mark is very interesting | Feb 16 07:04 |
| cubezzz | he was probably thinking "everyone's watching the Olympics, just prorogue more" :) | Feb 16 07:06 |
| Ender2070 | exposure to true information doesn't matter anymore, once demoralized, he is unable to assess true information and the facts mean nothing to him, even if you bring him to the USSR and show him a concentration camp he still won't believe it | Feb 16 07:07 |
| Ender2070 | sounds like the average person | Feb 16 07:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Is Peter @serafinowicz carrying on where Monty Python left off... | Feb 16 07:07 | |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, in fact, that was his EXPLICIT excuse | Feb 16 07:07 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, he figured we'd fall for it :( | Feb 16 07:08 |
| cubezzz | heh | Feb 16 07:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | seriously, he tried that on. | Feb 16 07:08 |
| Ender2070 | I was thinking harper just wanted to be the PM of the olympics for his own fame | Feb 16 07:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | what was he really going to say? Ah... didn't want the heat on Afghanistan? | Feb 16 07:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, yeah | Feb 16 07:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, that soo | Feb 16 07:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | too* | Feb 16 07:08 |
| cubezzz | why are they fighting in Afghanistan? | Feb 16 07:09 |
| Ender2070 | "I was PM when we won gold in Canada bitches!" | Feb 16 07:09 |
| cubezzz | seriously, it seems someone is always fighting over there | Feb 16 07:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, i used to think i knew why | Feb 16 07:09 |
| cubezzz | I'm sure the Afghans are sick of it | Feb 16 07:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, but it seems clearer every day that it's a plain error | Feb 16 07:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, you bet. | Feb 16 07:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, daily civilian deaths. | Feb 16 07:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, i don't thihk that would play well on the streets of TO either. | Feb 16 07:10 |
| Ender2070 | more civilian deaths than legit ones | Feb 16 07:10 |
| cubezzz | at least save some money and stop fighting, good grief :) | Feb 16 07:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, yes | Feb 16 07:10 |
| cubezzz | and lives and everything else | Feb 16 07:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, but that's the whole point of current technology | Feb 16 07:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, and tactics | Feb 16 07:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, state terror | Feb 16 07:10 |
| Ender2070 | http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=21440 | Feb 16 07:10 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: 60 drone hits kill 14 al-Qaeda men, 687 civilians .::. Size~: 54.79 KB | Feb 16 07:10 |
| cubezzz | the British were fighting over something during the Victorian Era | Feb 16 07:11 |
| cubezzz | no clue why though | Feb 16 07:11 |
| Ender2070 | 60 drone hits kill 14 al-Qaeda men, 687 civilians | Feb 16 07:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, then, you express surprise that they resist, and declare resistance to invasion, "unlawful". it's a beautiful system. | Feb 16 07:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | kafka would be terribly proud. | Feb 16 07:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | 687! | Feb 16 07:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | holy cow | Feb 16 07:11 |
| cubezzz | yeah, I don't understand it | Feb 16 07:11 |
| Ender2070 | cubezzz - ask the dutch africans | Feb 16 07:12 |
| cubezzz | they did stop fighting though | Feb 16 07:12 |
| cubezzz | eventually | Feb 16 07:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, British were in India, Africa, etc. Boer War, Boxer Rebellion, etc, etc, etc | Feb 16 07:12 |
| Ender2070 | fighting their own people over resources there | Feb 16 07:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, the Brits perfected the mil/ind system even before the yanks, and it lives on in BAE and huge british arms industry | Feb 16 07:13 |
| Ender2070 | Boer War | Feb 16 07:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, often overlooked | Feb 16 07:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, they keep it quiet | Feb 16 07:13 |
| cubezzz | crazy | Feb 16 07:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, Pilger ripped the lid off it in "Hidden Agendas" | Feb 16 07:13 |
| Ender2070 | have you considered the US is just an arm of the British war machine? | Feb 16 07:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, hehe, two arms of one body, methinks | Feb 16 07:14 |
| Ender2070 | exactly | Feb 16 07:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, don't forget France, Israel, Germany as large arms makers too | Feb 16 07:14 |
| Ender2070 | and they have the tax base to afford it | Feb 16 07:14 |
| Ender2070 | UK and US, "IRAQ HAS WMD'S!" | Feb 16 07:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, it's collapsing. slowly but surely. they're not maintaining infrastructure on any level | Feb 16 07:14 |
| cubezzz | War just is no good for the common people though | Feb 16 07:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, domestically | Feb 16 07:15 |
| cubezzz | it's just terrible | Feb 16 07:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, right! | Feb 16 07:15 |
| Ender2070 | then Tony Blair gets a nice anthralling UN membership due to it | Feb 16 07:15 |
| Ender2070 | or EU | Feb 16 07:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, it's amazing that we're still dealing with it in 2010 | Feb 16 07:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | like, nobody reads history? | Feb 16 07:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | especially 20th C history | Feb 16 07:15 |
| Ender2070 | Brave New World | Feb 16 07:15 |
| cubezzz | I read history more now | Feb 16 07:15 |
| Ender2070 | nobody WANTS to read history | Feb 16 07:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, every generation, they want to reset. | Feb 16 07:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, inject Hollywood History and reboot. | Feb 16 07:15 |
| Ender2070 | precisely | Feb 16 07:16 |
| cubezzz | Hollywood is just garbage though :) | Feb 16 07:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, every generation needs to be told that there is a Just War to be fought. | Feb 16 07:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, of course it is. | Feb 16 07:16 |
| Ender2070 | how many people probably thing Inglorious Basterds was true | Feb 16 07:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, right. | Feb 16 07:16 |
| Ender2070 | think* | Feb 16 07:16 |
| cubezzz | Mac virus stops alien invasion? :))) | Feb 16 07:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, dangerous tripe | Feb 16 07:16 |
| cubezzz | that was just stupid | Feb 16 07:16 |
| Ender2070 | historical video games | Feb 16 07:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | worse. it's dangerous. yanks believe that stuff. | Feb 16 07:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | it reinforces ppl like Daemon's fantasies | Feb 16 07:16 |
| Ender2070 | LOL | Feb 16 07:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | they can not separate fiction from reality | Feb 16 07:16 |
| cubezzz | "the bad guys" | Feb 16 07:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, EXACTLY.... | Feb 16 07:16 |
| Ender2070 | ALSO | Feb 16 07:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's really pernicious | Feb 16 07:17 |
| Ender2070 | look up the term "predictive programming" | Feb 16 07:17 |
| Ender2070 | fiction bypasses the average persons filter | Feb 16 07:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, yeah. my favourite propaganda film in recent times is Deja Vu | Feb 16 07:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, right | Feb 16 07:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, once you recognise this, you see Hollywood for the deliberately contrived propaganda it is | Feb 16 07:18 |
| Ender2070 | bypass the filter, make it reality and you'll have less resistance | Feb 16 07:18 |
| cubezzz | I liked Logan's RUn :) | Feb 16 07:18 |
| cubezzz | that was a while ago though | Feb 16 07:18 |
| Ender2070 | its a very sophisticated brainwashing technique | Feb 16 07:18 |
| Ender2070 | look at Total Recall | Feb 16 07:18 |
| Ender2070 | naked body scanners | Feb 16 07:18 |
| cubezzz | 70's SF wasn't bad | Feb 16 07:18 |
| cubezzz | yeah | Feb 16 07:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | and effective. ppl turn off the tv, it's like turning off the telescreen in 1984. | Feb 16 07:18 |
| cubezzz | now we have them for real | Feb 16 07:18 |
| Ender2070 | look at the book "brave new world" | Feb 16 07:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | enough people turn off tv, the authorities will panic | Feb 16 07:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | hasnt happened yet. | Feb 16 07:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | but it will | Feb 16 07:19 |
| cubezzz | I liked Sagan on TV :) | Feb 16 07:19 |
| Ender2070 | if they killed off the tv somehow, i wonder how long it would take before your average person started thinking again | Feb 16 07:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | some guy who shan't be named said in here recently, "hey 1984 wasn't true, it didn't happen in 1984. it's bogus." | Feb 16 07:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | hehe | Feb 16 07:19 |
| cubezzz | well... | Feb 16 07:19 |
| cubezzz | he's right :) | Feb 16 07:20 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Feb 16 07:20 |
| cubezzz | it's not true :) | Feb 16 07:20 |
| cubezzz | we have something else.... | Feb 16 07:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, i stopped watching tv a decade or more ago, and that wasn't even the kind of toxic tv americans watch now | Feb 16 07:20 |
| cubezzz | Big Brother is Microsoft :) | Feb 16 07:20 |
| Ender2070 | i stopped watching tv about 5 years ago | Feb 16 07:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | haha | Feb 16 07:20 |
| Ender2070 | live tv | Feb 16 07:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070, that explains why you feel a little out of sync ... | Feb 16 07:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | i can relate | Feb 16 07:20 |
| Ender2070 | i still watch a few sci fi shows with commercials removed | Feb 16 07:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | i turned it off before 911... and after that it has not been useful | Feb 16 07:21 |
| cubezzz | I watched a lot of older films | Feb 16 07:21 |
| cubezzz | like _really_ old | Feb 16 07:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | oh, yeah, cinema is different. | Feb 16 07:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | that's nothing to do with tv/hollywood machine | Feb 16 07:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | i still watch cinema | Feb 16 07:21 |
| Ender2070 | the sci fi i watch is pre-911 tho too | Feb 16 07:21 |
| Ender2070 | star trek :) | Feb 16 07:21 |
| cubezzz | yes indeed, me too | Feb 16 07:21 |
| cubezzz | Ender2070, you ever see The Starlost? | Feb 16 07:22 |
| Ender2070 | nope | Feb 16 07:22 |
| Ender2070 | you told me about it before though | Feb 16 07:22 |
| cubezzz | you might find it interesting | Feb 16 07:22 |
| cubezzz | weird now hardly anyone remembers it | Feb 16 07:22 |
| Ender2070 | oooo Canadian | Feb 16 07:22 |
| Ender2070 | ever see "The Prisoner" | Feb 16 07:22 |
| Ender2070 | the original | Feb 16 07:22 |
| cubezzz | yes | Feb 16 07:22 |
| Ender2070 | i want to | Feb 16 07:22 |
| Ender2070 | i haven't seen it though | Feb 16 07:22 |
| cubezzz | watch the last episode first :) | Feb 16 07:23 |
| Ender2070 | "I am not a number! I am a free man!" | Feb 16 07:23 |
| cubezzz | THe Prisoner was a bit like a drug trip | Feb 16 07:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, the only major canadian series i know of is "The Lexx" ;-) | Feb 16 07:23 |
| cubezzz | but interesting :) | Feb 16 07:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, and Defying Gravity, but sorry -- that sucked ass. | Feb 16 07:23 |
| cubezzz | see, no one remember The StarLost :) | Feb 16 07:23 |
| cubezzz | it had an amazing computer in it | Feb 16 07:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, i'll try and check it out | Feb 16 07:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, i liked Blake's 7 | Feb 16 07:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | which also had an amazing computer-- orac | Feb 16 07:24 |
| cubezzz | computers are way better in SF than in real life :) | Feb 16 07:24 |
| Ender2070 | sounds loosely connected to "Stars of a Distant Earth" | Feb 16 07:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz, i blame microsoft | Feb 16 07:24 |
| cubezzz | oh yeah, big time | Feb 16 07:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | :) | Feb 16 07:24 |
| Ender2070 | err | Feb 16 07:24 |
| Ender2070 | The Songs of Distant Earth | Feb 16 07:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | sounds like a mike oldfield album | Feb 16 07:25 |
| Ender2070 | "The story is set 1,500 years in the future, on the faraway oceanic planet of Thalassa. Thalassa was populated by humans with an embryonic seed pod, sent out from Earth in a last attempt to continue the human race's existence." | Feb 16 07:25 |
| cubezzz | the computer on The Starlost had the weirdest speech pattern | Feb 16 07:25 |
| cubezzz | yeah it's similar | Feb 16 07:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | does it have Cylons??? | Feb 16 07:25 |
| *qu1j0t3 ducks | Feb 16 07:25 | |
| cubezzz | no, but the ark is kind of like Canada itself | Feb 16 07:26 |
| cubezzz | everyone is spread far apart and can't communicate very well | Feb 16 07:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | hehe | Feb 16 07:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | nice premise | Feb 16 07:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | i guess separatism wasn't so compelling over there | Feb 16 07:26 |
| cubezzz | you got a bunch of folks who don't even know they're on an ark travelling through space | Feb 16 07:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | wow | Feb 16 07:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | this also reminds me of Halo somehow... | Feb 16 07:27 |
| cubezzz | clueless about tech and computers, living in an Amish-like society | Feb 16 07:27 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Feb 16 07:28 |
| cubezzz | it's very under rated actually | Feb 16 07:28 |
| Ender2070 | sounds like the guy who thought it up didnt like it | Feb 16 07:28 |
| cubezzz | that is true | Feb 16 07:28 |
| cubezzz | he didn't like the final product because it was done on the cheap | Feb 16 07:28 |
| cubezzz | Harlan Ellison I think | Feb 16 07:29 |
| Ender2070 | "As the filming went on, Ellison grew disenchanted with the budget cuts, details that were changed, and what he characterized as the progressive dumbing down of the story. Ellison's dissatisfaction extended to the new title of the pilot episode; he had called it "Phoenix Without Ashes" but it was changed to "Voyage of Discovery"." | Feb 16 07:29 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Feb 16 07:29 |
| Ender2070 | Pheonix without ashes | Feb 16 07:29 |
| Ender2070 | Before the production of the pilot episode was completed, Ellison invoked a clause in his contract to force the producers to use his alternate registered writer's name of "Cordwainer Bird" on the end credits. | Feb 16 07:30 |
| cubezzz | early 70's SF :) | Feb 16 07:31 |
| cubezzz | it was kind of pessimistic | Feb 16 07:31 |
| Ender2070 | yeah | Feb 16 07:31 |
| Ender2070 | "Bova, frustrated that his advice was ignored, saw the first show when it was broadcast and quit. He asked the producers to take his name off the credits of all the shows, but he did not have a clause like Ellison's in his contract, so he remained credited." | Feb 16 07:31 |
| Ender2070 | ben bova was the science consultant | Feb 16 07:32 |
| cubezzz | did you like Andromeda? | Feb 16 07:32 |
| Ender2070 | not really | Feb 16 07:32 |
| cubezzz | I don't seem to like anything on TV now | Feb 16 07:32 |
| Ender2070 | hercules in space? | Feb 16 07:32 |
| cubezzz | heh | Feb 16 07:33 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Feb 16 07:33 |
| cubezzz | the chick was neat though | Feb 16 07:33 |
| Ender2070 | the last sci-fi show I really liked was "First Wave" | Feb 16 07:33 |
| Ender2070 | canadian made too iirc | Feb 16 07:33 |
| Ender2070 | Francis Ford Coppola had his hands in it too | Feb 16 07:33 |
| Ender2070 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Wave_%28TV_series%29 | Feb 16 07:34 |
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| Ender2070 | "Former thief turned security specialist Kincaid Lawrence "Cade" Foster’s life was idyllic, with a beautiful wife, good job and a nice house. Unbeknownst to him, a race of extraterrestrials called the Gua have identified him as subject 117 in an experiment to test human resilience. As part of this experiment, his life is systematically ruined, including the murder of his wife, for which he is framed." | Feb 16 07:34 |
| cubezzz | yeah it's the alien invasion thing again | Feb 16 07:35 |
| cubezzz | it's been done so many times | Feb 16 07:35 |
| Ender2070 | its so good though | Feb 16 07:35 |
| Ender2070 | it feels like the original star trek | Feb 16 07:36 |
| Ender2070 | "Constantly pursued by the police, and a strange government agency called the Illuminati, Foster discovers previously unknown quatrains of Nostradamus, which tell of three waves which will destroy the planet unless the “twice-blessed man” can stop them." | Feb 16 07:36 |
| Ender2070 | he goes around using the book to stop their experiments | Feb 16 07:36 |
| cubezzz | ummm, yeah sounds a bit far fetched :) | Feb 16 07:36 |
| Ender2070 | well yeah | Feb 16 07:37 |
| cubezzz | but of course most SF is | Feb 16 07:37 |
| Ender2070 | but its really like the original star trek, when they ran into bizarre planets/aliens | Feb 16 07:37 |
| cubezzz | Star Trek was good... | Feb 16 07:37 |
| cubezzz | I'm still a fan | Feb 16 07:37 |
| Ender2070 | yeah | Feb 16 07:38 |
| cubezzz | the thing about the original Star Trek, it had a future look to it | Feb 16 07:38 |
| Ender2070 | I've heard that Gene Roddenberry was a NASA employee | Feb 16 07:38 |
| cubezzz | where as stuff like V or The First Wave, Earth just looks like normal Earth | Feb 16 07:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@iamMAMACITA Beautiful, stunning California. No other compares 2Cali // South/Latin America, Europe & SE Asia hold up pretty well actually | Feb 16 07:38 | |
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| Ender2070 | yeah | Feb 16 07:43 |
| Ender2070 | http://www.kolibrios.org/ | Feb 16 07:46 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Popular Mechanics would prefer if u, y'know, just stopped questioning stuff http://bit.ly/cIx6xU | Feb 16 07:46 | |
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| cubezzz | it would make no sense for the US government to blow up the WTC | Feb 16 07:55 |
| cubezzz | the conspiracy theory is just stupid | Feb 16 07:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Quintura Breaks the #Patent System by Using it for Welfare http://ur1.ca/mgle | Feb 16 07:55 | |
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| cubezzz | it messed up the stock exchange big time | Feb 16 07:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The #MAFIAA Gets Own Place in the White House ( #IntellectualMonopolies Task Force) http://ur1.ca/mglh | Feb 16 07:57 | |
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| Ender2070 | i don't believe in that one much | Feb 16 08:01 |
| Ender2070 | however messing up the stock exchange would crash their economy | Feb 16 08:01 |
| Ender2070 | which would help a world currency be born | Feb 16 08:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ArchLinux So Good It's Difficult to Replace http://celettu.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/arch-is-hard-to-replace/ | Feb 16 08:01 | |
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| cubezzz | people just aren't thinking that far ahead | Feb 16 08:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #NetNeutrality Debate Returns, Fibre Can Offer Solution http://ur1.ca/mglo http://ur1.ca/mglp | Feb 16 08:03 | |
| Ender2070 | they also used 9/11 to get all their totalitarian laws on the books | Feb 16 08:03 |
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| cubezzz | that is more plausible | Feb 16 08:03 |
| cubezzz | but it could simply be fear at work | Feb 16 08:03 |
| Ender2070 | they dont have to be complicit for that though | Feb 16 08:03 |
| cubezzz | the wire tapping without a warrant was bad obviously | Feb 16 08:03 |
| Ender2070 | dont need a conspiracy for them to put totalitarian laws ont he books | Feb 16 08:03 |
| cubezzz | that is true | Feb 16 08:04 |
| Ender2070 | Canada put similar laws on the books in 1998 | Feb 16 08:04 |
| Ender2070 | the man responsible now works at the UN | Feb 16 08:04 |
| cubezzz | who was that? | Feb 16 08:04 |
| Ender2070 | gotta find his name | Feb 16 08:04 |
| Ender2070 | Allan Rock | Feb 16 08:07 |
| cubezzz | huh | Feb 16 08:07 |
| cubezzz | I remember that name | Feb 16 08:07 |
| cubezzz | he's not at the UN any more, left in 2006 | Feb 16 08:08 |
| Ender2070 | oh it was probably before then when I heard about it | Feb 16 08:08 |
| cubezzz | and he's a Liberal :) | Feb 16 08:09 |
| cubezzz | funny | Feb 16 08:09 |
| cubezzz | yeah he's not in public office now | Feb 16 08:09 |
| Ender2070 | started off as PC | Feb 16 08:09 |
| Ender2070 | you know that Trudeau was a communist right? | Feb 16 08:10 |
| cubezzz | uh no I didn't know that :) | Feb 16 08:10 |
| Ender2070 | he got a list of communists in canadian government reclassified too | Feb 16 08:10 |
| cubezzz | as far as I know, he was Liberal | Feb 16 08:10 |
| Ender2070 | "Trudeau was interested in Marxist ideas in the 1940s and his Harvard dissertation was on the topic of Communism and Christianity." | Feb 16 08:11 |
| cubezzz | but like a lot of people, I'm not too enthused with politicians | Feb 16 08:11 |
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| cubezzz | right, the 40's, I'm sure he changed his thinking afterwards | Feb 16 08:11 |
| Ender2070 | he used to drive around on the halifax docks wearing a german helmet | Feb 16 08:12 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Feb 16 08:12 |
| cubezzz | why? | Feb 16 08:12 |
| Ender2070 | something to do with ww2 and nazi's | Feb 16 08:12 |
| cubezzz | maybe German helmets were really good :) | Feb 16 08:12 |
| cubezzz | people have been calling Stallman communist for the last 25 years | Feb 16 08:13 |
| cubezzz | but even he's a capitalist of a sort | Feb 16 08:13 |
| Ender2070 | yeah | Feb 16 08:14 |
| cubezzz | sometimes the Conseratives have a good idea, sometimes the Greens and sometimes the Liberals | Feb 16 08:14 |
| cubezzz | but over-all I like the greens | Feb 16 08:14 |
| Ender2070 | gotta follow history dude | Feb 16 08:14 |
| cubezzz | you can't keep crudding up the planet | Feb 16 08:14 |
| cubezzz | sure | Feb 16 08:14 |
| Ender2070 | marxist socialism is NOT good | Feb 16 08:15 |
| Ender2070 | unless you want 10% of the population killed off, by principal | Feb 16 08:15 |
| Ender2070 | watch "The Soviet Story" | Feb 16 08:15 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: Vay Guy is not a problem | Feb 16 08:15 |
| cubezzz | well I think in general communism doesn't work in large groups... | Feb 16 08:15 |
| cubezzz | in a small group it could work | Feb 16 08:15 |
| cubezzz | think Amish again | Feb 16 08:15 |
| Ender2070 | works in China | Feb 16 08:15 |
| cubezzz | they share everything | Feb 16 08:15 |
| cubezzz | uh, maybe, but .... | Feb 16 08:16 |
| Ender2070 | schestowitz - var guy is dumb | Feb 16 08:16 |
| cubezzz | I think they have a lot of polluton | Feb 16 08:16 |
| Ender2070 | yeah | Feb 16 08:16 |
| Ender2070 | and? | Feb 16 08:16 |
| Ender2070 | the UN is going to give them our money to fix that, like they give a shit | Feb 16 08:16 |
| cubezzz | and personal freedoms are at a minimum | Feb 16 08:16 |
| cubezzz | self expression is limited... | Feb 16 08:16 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: no comment. | Feb 16 08:16 |
| cubezzz | CHina shouldn't be using Microsoft that's for sure | Feb 16 08:17 |
| Ender2070 | cubezzz - the UN loves everything about China | Feb 16 08:17 |
| cubezzz | that is just .... crazy | Feb 16 08:17 |
| Ender2070 | one child per family, thought control, producing all the worlds goods, totalitarian control | Feb 16 08:17 |
| Ender2070 | mass brainwashing | Feb 16 08:18 |
| Ender2070 | once a country hits post-industrial, they start clamping down and taking away rights | Feb 16 08:19 |
| Ender2070 | anyways, there is this one specific show: http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.us/CTTM2010/Alan_Watt_CTTM_LIVEonRBN_512_Governments_Song__In_Praise_of_Con__Keeping_the_Slave_in_Platos_Cave_Feb112010.mp3 | Feb 16 08:20 |
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| Ender2070 | its pretty good | Feb 16 08:21 |
| Ender2070 | schestowitz - so why isn't the var guy a problem? | Feb 16 08:23 |
| Ender2070 | seems he is just increasing his ad revenue with misleading articles | Feb 16 08:23 |
| schestowitz | tessier__: ping | Feb 16 08:23 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: I used to correspond with him | Feb 16 08:26 |
| schestowitz | Back in the days he covered MSFT | Feb 16 08:26 |
| schestowitz | Now he's more FOSS focus | Feb 16 08:26 |
| schestowitz | Leave him alone :-) | Feb 16 08:26 |
| Ender2070 | but hes wrong | Feb 16 08:28 |
| Ender2070 | digium has nothing to do with redhat's exchange business | Feb 16 08:28 |
| Ender2070 | digium is voip stuff | Feb 16 08:28 |
| Ender2070 | redhat covered everything | Feb 16 08:28 |
| Ender2070 | I gave him the benefit of the doubt by attributing it for advertising revenue generation | Feb 16 08:30 |
| Ender2070 | if its not that hes just dumb, lol | Feb 16 08:30 |
| tessier__ | schestowitz: pong | Feb 16 08:31 |
| schestowitz | Hey | Feb 16 08:32 |
| tessier__ | How's it going? | Feb 16 08:32 |
| schestowitz | I have a question | Feb 16 08:32 |
| tessier__ | ok | Feb 16 08:32 |
| schestowitz | Since Saturday | Feb 16 08:32 |
| schestowitz | On the 4th/5th the wordpress database shrank | Feb 16 08:32 |
| schestowitz | Everything seems to work | Feb 16 08:32 |
| schestowitz | But the database became about 40MB smaller overnight | Feb 16 08:32 |
| schestowitz | So I wondered if you changed something | Feb 16 08:32 |
| tessier__ | Nope. I haven't done a thing. | Feb 16 08:33 |
| schestowitz | I asked around in WordPress channel | Feb 16 08:33 |
| tessier__ | This past Saturday the 13th? | Feb 16 08:33 |
| schestowitz | Could there be some cache int he DB? | Feb 16 08:33 |
| schestowitz | I only noticed some days later | Feb 16 08:33 |
| schestowitz | The database always grows each day | Feb 16 08:33 |
| tessier__ | How are you measuring the size of the db? with du -sh? | Feb 16 08:33 |
| schestowitz | I opened the compressed files before and after | Feb 16 08:33 |
| schestowitz | One is about 470 mb, the other about 30 or 40 mb thinner | Feb 16 08:34 |
| schestowitz | This got me extremely uncomfortable, but I have not noticed anything odd in the site (like missing content or errors) | Feb 16 08:34 |
| tessier__ | I wonder if there is anything that prunes out old data of some sort. LIke maybe a certain amount of time after you turned off that one plugin that was slowing things down? | Feb 16 08:35 |
| tessier__ | Can you tell which table it was that shrank? | Feb 16 08:35 |
| schestowitz | I wish I knew how to check | Feb 16 08:35 |
| tessier__ | If you have copies of the db before and after... | Feb 16 08:35 |
| schestowitz | I installed mysql-admin | Feb 16 08:35 |
| schestowitz | and mysql-server here | Feb 16 08:35 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I have before/after copies | Feb 16 08:36 |
| tessier__ | Do you have uncompressed copies of before and after somewhere on the server I can look at? | Feb 16 08:36 |
| schestowitz | tessier__: yes, hold on | Feb 16 08:36 |
| tessier__ | ok | Feb 16 08:36 |
| schestowitz | I'll put them on the servr | Feb 16 08:36 |
| tessier__ | Cool. I bet I can figure out which table shrank. That should give us some idea of what sort of data disappeared which might explain things | Feb 16 08:36 |
| schestowitz | Transferring | Feb 16 08:37 |
| schestowitz | tessier__: I just wanted to check to be sure... it's obvious why | Feb 16 08:37 |
| schestowitz | As I said, I saw absolutely no difference in operating, but I couldn't get any good answer in wordpress iRC... and never saw a DB shrinking over time | Feb 16 08:38 |
| schestowitz | tessier__: it will take a few hours to transfer the files (about 3) | Feb 16 08:46 |
| tessier__ | schestowitz: Ok. I'm heading for bed but will try to take a look at it tomorrow. Can you send me an email or something with the paths to the two dbs you uploaded? | Feb 16 08:53 |
| schestowitz | Thanks! | Feb 16 08:54 |
| schestowitz | Yes, will do | Feb 16 08:54 |
| schestowitz | ~/wordpressdatabase-04022010.dump | Feb 16 08:54 |
| schestowitz | ~/wordpressdatabase-11022010.dump | Feb 16 08:54 |
| schestowitz | It's still being sent there over the network (2hr:50 to go | Feb 16 08:55 |
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| Ender2070 | Most people would die sooner than think — in fact they do so. - Bertrand Russell, The ABC of Relativity (1925) | Feb 16 09:08 |
| schestowitz | He lived a long life despite being a heavy smoker | Feb 16 09:10 |
| Ender2070 | yes he did | Feb 16 09:12 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Spy & Pyro... oh God what, I don't even http://ur1.ca/mgqv | Feb 16 09:12 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9-kGufIVcY | Feb 16 09:14 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Former #Microsoft General Manager ‘Infects’ the Debt-saddled #Washington Administration, Helps Microsoft Dodge tax http://ur1.ca/mgs8 | Feb 16 09:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Wondering where fsck.ntfs went on Ubuntu. I can't fsck an ntfs drive which means I can't copy it using clonezilla. | Feb 16 09:38 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why it is reasonable to mention #GNU when referring to the Free desktop system http://boycottnovell.com/2010/02/16/gnu-attribution/ | Feb 16 09:43 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Ashley Highfield (Formerly of the #BBC ) ‘Pulls a Ballmer’ http://boycottnovell.com/2010/02/16/ashley-highfield-hypocrisy/ | Feb 16 10:11 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Tomboy 1.1.2 (development release) now available in our PPA for jaunty/karmic http://bit.ly/93H6FV | Feb 16 10:32 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | why is popey spamming us with microsoft shit? | Feb 16 10:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How people with vested interests in #Microsoft help rewrite the “truth” about the company http://ur1.ca/mhbh | Feb 16 10:46 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] New ACTA leak, it is a memo from the European Commission to the European Parliament INTA (LIMITED!): http://i5.be/at6 | Feb 16 10:54 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @zoobab: New ACTA leak, it is a memo from the European Commission to the European Parliament INTA (LIMITED!): http://i5.be/at6 | Feb 16 11:13 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/22172890 "@schestowitz influential figures discredited !gnu (unlike Linus) long ago, and now there's inertia, and lynching-crowd effect. sad" | Feb 16 11:20 |
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| schestowitz | "@lxoliva indeed. Just watch what Kucinich needed to deal with" | Feb 16 11:35 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Migration to #Microsoft offers an important lesson about the purpose of #Novell ’s #Mono and #Moonlight http://ur1.ca/mhhj | Feb 16 11:46 | |
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| oiaohm | I would not be too sure of internodes motivation. | Feb 16 11:59 |
| oiaohm | I wonder if they are waiting for exchange to explode. | Feb 16 11:59 |
| schestowitz | Wow | Feb 16 12:10 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: big finding | Feb 16 12:10 |
| schestowitz | I've just gone thorugh your old comments | Feb 16 12:10 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/irc-log-31012010.html#tJan%2031%2021:31:50 | Feb 16 12:10 |
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| schestowitz | "schestowitz: No reporter worth there salt should have been reporting unaudited numbers. They should have learnt there lesson from enron" | Feb 16 12:10 |
| schestowitz | "Now I know what the problem is. (Unaudited) cannot be entered into sharemarket trackers http://www.microsoft.com/msft/earnings/FY10/earn_rel_q2_10.mspx" | Feb 16 12:10 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: read this new article: http://www.cfo.com/article.cfm/14474891/c_14475974?f=home_todayinfinance | Feb 16 12:10 |
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| schestowitz | It's dynamite | Feb 16 12:10 |
| oiaohm | http://blogs.msdn.com/shawnhernan/archive/2010/02/13/microsoft-s-many-eyeballs-and-the-security-development-lifecycle.aspx << nice bit of fud. | Feb 16 12:13 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: read the CFO article | Feb 16 12:14 |
| oiaohm | Hmm exactly what did MS do wrong. | Feb 16 12:17 |
| oiaohm | That ammount of payment is far too much. | Feb 16 12:17 |
| oiaohm | Or exactly what has he been paid todo. | Feb 16 12:20 |
| oiaohm | That is the biggest question. We need to keep a close eye on GM. | Feb 16 12:20 |
| schestowitz | No, not that | Feb 16 12:24 |
| schestowitz | That previously paid a guy to shut up about fraud | Feb 16 12:25 |
| schestowitz | This one smells bad. | Feb 16 12:25 |
| schestowitz | I'll do a pos | Feb 16 12:25 |
| schestowitz | I'll do a post | Feb 16 12:25 |
| oiaohm | There is a issue why is the payment more than the pentity for breaking agreement. | Feb 16 12:28 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: | Feb 16 12:28 |
| oiaohm | Normally if an agreement is to shut someone up breach means pay back all money. | Feb 16 12:28 |
| schestowitz | Yes, so..? | Feb 16 12:37 |
| schestowitz | That's the point | Feb 16 12:37 |
| schestowitz | He has an incentive not to tell the truth | Feb 16 12:37 |
| oiaohm | Or doing something in MS favor at the company he just moved to. | Feb 16 12:41 |
| oiaohm | And use the agreement as a reason not to talk about MS plans against GM. | Feb 16 12:42 |
| schestowitz | http://openattitude.com/2010/02/15/meego-paradise-lost-for-mobile-hackers/ | Feb 16 12:42 |
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| schestowitz | Like Ford Sync? | Feb 16 12:42 |
| schestowitz | And Kia | Feb 16 12:42 |
| schestowitz | Where Microsoft puts its lock-in in cars? | Feb 16 12:43 |
| schestowitz | Why would Microsoft go /against/ GM? | Feb 16 12:43 |
| schestowitz | They have no product overlap | Feb 16 12:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: this is actually great news | Feb 16 12:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | meego will be a complete failure | Feb 16 12:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | so there will be room for an actual open source alternative | Feb 16 12:50 |
| schestowitz | Nice image here: http://thinkmoult.com/2010/02/15/big-brother-google-hello-goodbye/ | Feb 16 12:54 |
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| oiaohm | Diablo-D3: meego will not be a total failure. At least we will have the kernel improvements if they don't make it. | Feb 16 12:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | well, yes, unrelated stuff can be fished out | Feb 16 12:57 |
| oiaohm | Way the meego plan seams to be talked about. There will be a lot of upstreaming of stuff. | Feb 16 12:59 |
| oiaohm | So fishing unreleated stuff if current plans are stuck to will not have to be done. | Feb 16 13:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | plans never survive contact with the enemy. | Feb 16 13:00 |
| amarsh04 | http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/feb/15/police-drone-arrest-backfires | Feb 16 13:00 |
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| oiaohm | http://meego.com/developers/meego-architecture The design does not look half bad. Diablo-D3 | Feb 16 13:04 |
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| oiaohm | http://meego.com/developers/getting-started/create-basic-meego-application Notice the more interesting Diablo-D3. Making a Meego application may be no different to creating a normal cross platform QT app. | Feb 16 13:06 |
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| Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: except QT sucks and is a pile of shit | Feb 16 13:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | so nothx | Feb 16 13:08 |
| oiaohm | Please don't say you think GTK is a good idea. | Feb 16 13:09 |
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| Diablo-D3 | its a better idea than qt is | Feb 16 13:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | but no, all this shits outdated | Feb 16 13:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | and its dumb | Feb 16 13:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | and we need to quit using it | Feb 16 13:09 |
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| oiaohm | To replace with what Diablo-D3 | Feb 16 13:11 |
| MinceR | with Zero, of course. the ultimate vaporware. ;) | Feb 16 13:11 |
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| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: no, obviously neno's windowing system | Feb 16 13:12 |
| MinceR | he's making a windowing system now? | Feb 16 13:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, eventually he'll have a whole OS done | Feb 16 13:13 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Did #Microsoft Pay Millions of Dollars to Hide Information of Financial Malpractice? http://ur1.ca/mhp0 seems possible | Feb 16 13:13 | |
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| oiaohm | Simple point there is not many options Diablo-D3. By the time someone creates something near the function of QT lots of time will have passed. | Feb 16 13:16 |
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| Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: qt is already behind | Feb 16 13:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | so Im not sure what you're talking about | Feb 16 13:18 |
| oiaohm | behind to what. Diablo-D3 | Feb 16 13:18 |
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| Diablo-D3 | we've had this argument before, and I actually have stuff to do | Feb 16 13:19 |
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| oiaohm | And last time you did not find anything that beat it either. Diablo-D3 | Feb 16 13:19 |
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| oiaohm | Yet you have kept the same arguement. | Feb 16 13:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | you didnt like the alternatives | Feb 16 13:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats not my problem | Feb 16 13:20 |
| oiaohm | I asked for something that beat in in function. | Feb 16 13:21 |
| oiaohm | You provided nothing in that class. Diablo-D3 | Feb 16 13:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats what you attempted to argue last time too | Feb 16 13:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | but seriously, I have stuff to do | Feb 16 13:22 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: you've had this argument before and you haven't made much sense back then, either. :> | Feb 16 13:22 |
| oiaohm | Diablo-D3: not one you put forward support animation effects or acceleration assistance to reduce load. | Feb 16 13:23 |
| oiaohm | Instead you were just putting forward light weight options that don't have the functions to render well. Diablo-D3 | Feb 16 13:23 |
| *Diablo-D3 could always put oiaohm on ignore for continued trolling | Feb 16 13:23 | |
| oiaohm | The problem here Diablo-D3 if there is something techincally better as a option I do want to know. | Feb 16 13:25 |
| oiaohm | Not blunt answer it just garbage. If it is garbage there has to be something better than it. | Feb 16 13:25 |
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| oiaohm | http://www.youtube.com/v/MXS3xKV-UM0&hl=en&fs=1 Not like there are many toolkits that can do let alone everything else. Diablo-D3 Part of choosing a ABI is giving enough freedom. | Feb 16 13:38 |
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| oiaohm | So its not just me MinceR. Diablo-D3 keeps on avoiding question? | Feb 16 13:46 |
| MinceR | all the "waaaah, Qt sucks!" guys have, so far | Feb 16 13:46 |
| oiaohm | I don't say Qt is the be all and end all. | Feb 16 13:47 |
| MinceR | or it boils down to either "i hate C++!" or "i don't understand X!" | Feb 16 13:47 |
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| MinceR | it isn't | Feb 16 13:47 |
| MinceR | but it's a fine toolkit | Feb 16 13:47 |
| MinceR | with a different set of bugs than GTK+ :> | Feb 16 13:47 |
| oiaohm | I have coded with blenders toolkit. | Feb 16 13:47 |
| oiaohm | That is a painful process. | Feb 16 13:47 |
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| oiaohm | GTK+ little better but limiting. | Feb 16 13:48 |
| oiaohm | Out of all the existing QT just seams the most sane to build a platform on at this stage. | Feb 16 13:48 |
| MinceR | oh, there's one more kind of those guys, the "waaah, i hate KDE!" guys. | Feb 16 13:49 |
| oiaohm | Yep and a lot of them have not tried kde 4.3 and it shows by the bugs they complain about. | Feb 16 13:49 |
| oiaohm | Heck some have not even tried KDE 4.2 either. | Feb 16 13:50 |
| oiaohm | I do truly give that KDE 4.0 and 4.1 were painful. | Feb 16 13:50 |
| MinceR | those guys were around even when KDE 3 was the newest version. | Feb 16 13:51 |
| oiaohm | So was I. | Feb 16 13:51 |
| oiaohm | I remember not having enough ram to run KDE 3.0 so was stuck with enlightenment. | Feb 16 13:51 |
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| oiaohm | Ie my hate was not set in stone and moved with the times. MinceR | Feb 16 13:55 |
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| oiaohm | netcraft web survey is late again. | Feb 16 13:59 |
| schestowitz | It doesn't matter | Feb 16 13:59 |
| schestowitz | It measures things wrongly | Feb 16 13:59 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is now trying to run ap[ache on windows | Feb 16 13:59 |
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| schestowitz | It gave funding to ASF | Feb 16 13:59 |
| oiaohm | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/02/16/1311236/Google-Patents-Country-Specific-Content-Blocking | Feb 16 14:00 |
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| oiaohm | Hmm wonder if google is up to trouble making. | Feb 16 14:00 |
| oiaohm | They will not filter cn now wonder if google with think it fare to take money from the likes of Microsoft of they do. | Feb 16 14:01 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Hitler fails at making Hitler parody http://ur1.ca/mhsc #meta #awesome | Feb 16 14:07 | |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2010/02/16/gnu-attribution/ | Feb 16 14:21 |
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| schestowitz | I've noticed that a lot of people are simply shy to say GNU. Maybe I'm wrong to reach this conclusion, but I keep seeing GNU taking a lot of the insults for no justifiable reason. | Feb 16 14:22 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/02/15/google-again-linked-to-australian-data-center-plans | Feb 16 14:23 |
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| Ender2070 | <schestowitz> Microsoft is now trying to run ap[ache on windows | Feb 16 14:24 |
| Ender2070 | apache has run on windows since NT4 | Feb 16 14:24 |
| oiaohm | At speed Ender2070 | Feb 16 14:25 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: thinking australia is very earth quake free. HP has a large data center here. | Feb 16 14:25 |
| oiaohm | Ender2070: Apache runs straight into NT issue with starting processes fast. | Feb 16 14:25 |
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| Ender2070 | Qt is also not behind, gtk is | Feb 16 14:27 |
| Ender2070 | Qt just got a boost from Intel too | Feb 16 14:27 |
| Ender2070 | MeeGo | Feb 16 14:27 |
| oiaohm | The change will mean less developers working on GTK too. | Feb 16 14:27 |
| oiaohm | Not good long term. | Feb 16 14:28 |
| Ender2070 | I think it is | Feb 16 14:28 |
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| oiaohm | I mean for GTK | Feb 16 14:28 |
| Ender2070 | gtk -1 | Feb 16 14:28 |
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| Ender2070 | we need to get off the mono infested gnome desktop entirely | Feb 16 14:28 |
| schestowitz | [14:24] <Ender2070> apache has run on windows since NT4 | Feb 16 14:28 |
| schestowitz | They add integration | Feb 16 14:29 |
| schestowitz | Like SQL Server | Feb 16 14:29 |
| schestowitz | See their patches post the bribe | Feb 16 14:29 |
| Ender2070 | lol apache could have done it themselves if MS let them | Feb 16 14:29 |
| Ender2070 | for instance you need to pay them lots of money just to sign a driver, integration is just a whole other mess | Feb 16 14:29 |
| Ender2070 | perhaps MSFT realizes that IIS is doomed | Feb 16 14:30 |
| schestowitz | Dissing gtk is not a good idea | Feb 16 14:30 |
| Ender2070 | Qt > gtk | Feb 16 14:30 |
| schestowitz | it also goes back to days of gimp and gtk (before gnome) | Feb 16 14:30 |
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| schestowitz | Ender2070: gtk is used by many guis | Feb 16 14:30 |
| schestowitz | in Linux | Feb 16 14:30 |
| schestowitz | Even RHEL's | Feb 16 14:30 |
| Ender2070 | I would like to see that replaced with Qt | Feb 16 14:30 |
| Ender2070 | it has a future | Feb 16 14:31 |
| schestowitz | The criminal takes his toys: http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/02/15/carl-icahn-cuts-yahoo-stake-by-80-percent | Feb 16 14:31 |
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| schestowitz | he destoryed the company | Feb 16 14:31 |
| schestowitz | Job done | Feb 16 14:31 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft's new brick does not receive good publicity today | Feb 16 14:34 |
| schestowitz | They also have some new obscure manager | Feb 16 14:34 |
| schestowitz | The others ones quit | Feb 16 14:34 |
| schestowitz | Zune exec and mobile one too.. | Feb 16 14:34 |
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| schestowitz | http://arstechnica.com/open-source/reviews/2010/02/hands-on-semantic-desktop-starts-to-show-in-kde-sc-44.ars | Feb 16 14:35 |
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| Ender2070 | I saw that yesterday | Feb 16 14:36 |
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| Ender2070 | I e-mailed him because he didn't include Fedora | Feb 16 14:36 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Any feedback anyone may have on my posting pattern here is welcome. I still focus on FOSS. | Feb 16 14:37 | |
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| schestowitz | http://news.techworld.com/security/3212681/spam-hits-google-buzz-already/?intcmp=nws-hm-l | Feb 16 14:43 |
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| schestowitz | Ender2070: he's OK with Fedora. He reviews it sometimes. | Feb 16 14:43 |
| schestowitz | But he also likes Mono | Feb 16 14:44 |
| schestowitz | Blech | Feb 16 14:44 |
| schestowitz | http://microsofttaxdodge.com/2010/02/washington-state-about-to-give-microsoft-a-100-million-tax-cut-annually.html#comment-6a00d83451b2ee69e2012877a71c7b970c | Feb 16 14:44 |
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| schestowitz | "The subsidies cost Washington taxpayers approximately $10,000 per student per year. The bill’s high income beneficiaries earn an average $92,000 per year, double the state's per capita income. (Source: USDOL ETA 2008)," | Feb 16 14:44 |
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| schestowitz | what does this run? http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2010/02/16/lg_intros_air_sync/ | Feb 16 14:48 |
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| Ender2070 | "Although I typically favor openSUSE as a reference distribution for KDE reviews due to its superior integration, I ran into a number of packaging issues when I attempted to install KDE SC 4.4 from openSUSE's build service." | Feb 16 14:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/16/abl_test_vid/ | Feb 16 14:49 |
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| Ender2070 | superior integration = balogny | Feb 16 14:49 |
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| schestowitz | Ender2070: to be fair to him, SUSE is good for KDE | Feb 16 14:50 |
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| schestowitz | ALways /has/ been | Feb 16 14:50 |
| schestowitz | Mandriva too, but SUSE no less... maybe except the time when it prioritised GNOME, after Novell had taken over | Feb 16 14:50 |
| schestowitz | Turbolinus is gone | Feb 16 14:50 |
| schestowitz | Thank goodness for that | Feb 16 14:50 |
| schestowitz | Most stake sold to some company | Feb 16 14:50 |
| Ender2070 | Fedora is better than both of them for KDE | Feb 16 14:51 |
| schestowitz | A lot of distros though are being andoidised | Feb 16 14:51 |
| schestowitz | Closed versions | Feb 16 14:51 |
| schestowitz | maemo.. meego | Feb 16 14:51 |
| schestowitz | No source | Feb 16 14:51 |
| schestowitz | yes to patented codecs... drm | Feb 16 14:51 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft protocols like activesync | Feb 16 14:52 |
| schestowitz | Silver Lie | Feb 16 14:52 |
| schestowitz | Moblin will get Silver Lie binaries | Feb 16 14:52 |
| schestowitz | So I suppose Nokia will too | Feb 16 14:52 |
| Ender2070 | what do you expect from a mobile device | Feb 16 14:52 |
| Ender2070 | they're all evil | Feb 16 14:52 |
| schestowitz | Not that.. | Feb 16 14:52 |
| schestowitz | Sub-notebooks | Feb 16 14:52 |
| schestowitz | Tablets | Feb 16 14:52 |
| Ender2070 | dumb | Feb 16 14:52 |
| schestowitz | They inherit the mobile model | Feb 16 14:52 |
| schestowitz | Not the desktop model | Feb 16 14:52 |
| Ender2070 | there are better os's | Feb 16 14:52 |
| schestowitz | See, they closed them down | Feb 16 14:52 |
| schestowitz | And dumb them down | Feb 16 14:52 |
| schestowitz | So you end up with a tablet that's more like a phone, not a desktop | Feb 16 14:52 |
| schestowitz | More restrictions and all | Feb 16 14:53 |
| Ender2070 | kde's netbook plasma makes maemo/meego look like a toy | Feb 16 14:53 |
| schestowitz | yes | Feb 16 14:53 |
| schestowitz | Because it is | Feb 16 14:53 |
| schestowitz | For grown up kids | Feb 16 14:53 |
| Ender2070 | yes and I don't plan on owning a device powered by meego | Feb 16 14:53 |
| schestowitz | Those who want to press some facebook face | Feb 16 14:53 |
| schestowitz | And then say "hi, lol yr like soooo cool!" | Feb 16 14:54 |
| Ender2070 | I only like meego for one thing, getting devs into Qt | Feb 16 14:54 |
| schestowitz | http://www.techworld.com.au/article/336331/intel_nokia_meego_joins_brewing_os_war?fp=2&fpid=1&rid=1 | Feb 16 14:54 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* | Feb 16 14:54 |
| schestowitz | "OS war" | Feb 16 14:54 |
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| schestowitz | That's what "professional" media is for | Feb 16 14:54 |
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| schestowitz | "Annie, get your gun!!" We're going to "OS WAR" | Feb 16 14:54 |
| Ender2070 | even with chrome os, you got the source code | Feb 16 14:55 |
| Ender2070 | how many variants of that exist based on the unfinished code - lol | Feb 16 14:55 |
| schestowitz | Not really | Feb 16 14:55 |
| schestowitz | Chromium OS | Feb 16 14:55 |
| schestowitz | And Android is said to be merge bound | Feb 16 14:55 |
| schestowitz | wrt chrome os | Feb 16 14:55 |
| schestowitz | If Brin is right | Feb 16 14:55 |
| schestowitz | That's the plan anyway | Feb 16 14:55 |
| Ender2070 | sometime in the future | Feb 16 14:55 |
| schestowitz | 'When I grow up" | Feb 16 14:56 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0K46C82v9o | Feb 16 14:56 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.techworld.com.au/article/336324/biggest_mobile_operators_join_forces_app_store_project?fp=2&fpid=1&rid=1 | Feb 16 14:57 |
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| schestowitz | Heh. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/16/windows_phone_angst/ | Feb 16 14:57 |
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| schestowitz | It figures | Feb 16 14:57 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is faking demand | Feb 16 14:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Hans censoring my tweets with an #hsbxl tag now: http://is.gd/8vhDS #hsbxl | Feb 16 14:57 | |
| Ender2070 | lol gsm | Feb 16 14:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/189337/Alleged_Windows_Mobile_7_Images_Leaked.html?tk=rss_news http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/16/windows_phone_7_series_website_down/ | Feb 16 14:57 |
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| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Alleged Windows Mobile 7 Images Leaked - PCWorld .::. Size~: 71.49 KB | Feb 16 14:58 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Windows Phone 7 Series website collapses under weight of traffic • The Register .::. Size~: 21.02 KB | Feb 16 14:58 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: os gsm | Feb 16 14:58 |
| Ender2070 | 2009 called, 3g replaced you | Feb 16 14:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Google admits Buzz social network testing flaws - Not testing flaws, but arrogant assumptions http://tinyurl.com/ybzwu27 | Feb 16 14:59 | |
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| Ender2070 | they should've beta tested buzz | Feb 16 15:00 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @zoobab Hans censoring my tweets with an #hsbxl tag now: http://is.gd/8vhDS #hsbxl > grow up, Hans. Not everyone loves you | Feb 16 15:01 | |
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| schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/20100215/0216338163.shtml radiation in schools buses too now? | Feb 16 15:14 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: WiFi On The School Bus | Techdirt .::. Size~: 50.31 KB | Feb 16 15:14 |
| schestowitz | How does radiation from phones compare ti wi-fi? | Feb 16 15:14 |
| schestowitz | http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123573568 | Feb 16 15:16 |
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| schestowitz | Surveillance too | Feb 16 15:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Checked your #MySQL recovery process recently? http://bit.ly/cStEbP #backup #backups #dr | Feb 16 15:16 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Nice try, Mr. Dan Brown, nice try. So.. tell us now, how much did the Freemasons pay you in return for this horse sh*t? #TheLostSymbol | Feb 16 15:16 | |
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| Ender2070 | there seems to be no consensus | Feb 16 15:19 |
| Ender2070 | some scientists say its bad | Feb 16 15:19 |
| Ender2070 | some say its not bad | Feb 16 15:19 |
| Omar87 | Greetings everyone! | Feb 16 15:19 |
| Ender2070 | it depends on who you want to side with | Feb 16 15:19 |
| Ender2070 | cell phones or cordless phones? | Feb 16 15:20 |
| Omar87 | What is it exactly? | Feb 16 15:20 |
| Ender2070 | cordless phones allegedly output a lot of harmful radiation due to the base station | Feb 16 15:20 |
| Ender2070 | more power than whats output from your cell phone | Feb 16 15:21 |
| MinceR | 160842 < schestowitz> How does radiation from phones compare ti wi-fi? | Feb 16 15:21 |
| MinceR | some phones are spread-spectrum; all wi-fi is spread spectrum | Feb 16 15:21 |
| MinceR | i think spread spectrum is less harmful than the more concentrated one | Feb 16 15:21 |
| Ender2070 | i've still heard recommendations to keep wifi devices away from metal objects | Feb 16 15:22 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: the industry-paid ones say i's benign | Feb 16 15:22 |
| schestowitz | RMS said something to that effect, which I suspected for a while | Feb 16 15:22 |
| schestowitz | It would be nice to align funding sources and existing studies | Feb 16 15:23 |
| schestowitz | Like they do with global warming | Feb 16 15:23 |
| Ender2070 | oh yeah there is that | Feb 16 15:23 |
| Ender2070 | grants are used to steer science | Feb 16 15:23 |
| schestowitz | the energy giants fund the denial os issues | Feb 16 15:23 |
| Ender2070 | im not funded by energy giants | Feb 16 15:23 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: like idle phones | Feb 16 15:24 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: maybe? | Feb 16 15:24 |
| MinceR | idle phones probably use less power than wifi | Feb 16 15:24 |
| schestowitz | Short range, long range, polling frequency | Feb 16 15:24 |
| MinceR | phones try to conserve energy by using less power to transmit | Feb 16 15:24 |
| MinceR | that's why they could get so small :> | Feb 16 15:24 |
| Ender2070 | i don't believe in man made global warming | Feb 16 15:24 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: I know you're not funded by them | Feb 16 15:24 |
| schestowitz | But you could be indoctrinated by those who are | Feb 16 15:25 |
| schestowitz | That's just the point | Feb 16 15:25 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Feb 16 15:25 |
| Ender2070 | I read news where their key facts where debunked | Feb 16 15:25 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, howdy | Feb 16 15:25 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: do you "believe" in man-made deforestation? | Feb 16 15:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Just finished read Dan Brown's #TheLostSymbol earlier today. Anybody who read it would like to tell me how he thinks/feels about it? | Feb 16 15:25 | |
| schestowitz | Omar87: hey | Feb 16 15:26 |
| schestowitz | Dan Brown pissed you off? | Feb 16 15:26 |
| schestowitz | I thought you liked the book | Feb 16 15:26 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: debunked by who? | Feb 16 15:26 |
| schestowitz | The mailgate thing was blown out of prorotion | Feb 16 15:26 |
| schestowitz | They made the leak look like a scandal | Feb 16 15:27 |
| Ender2070 | I think global warming could be helped simply by going nuclear and reversing deforestation | Feb 16 15:27 |
| schestowitz | So as to give the impression of something corrupt | Feb 16 15:27 |
| Ender2070 | none of these solutions require handing over my grandchildren over as debt slaves | Feb 16 15:27 |
| schestowitz | And then muddy the whole water and say, "hey, let's just keep polluting" | Feb 16 15:27 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: yeah, the book's pretty good, but the conclusion is bad. Very bad. | Feb 16 15:27 |
| Ender2070 | Lord Christopher Moncton for example pwned Al Gore's incoherant truth | Feb 16 15:27 |
| schestowitz | where did you see this? | Feb 16 15:28 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, or the "main idea", or whatever.. | Feb 16 15:28 |
| schestowitz | Maybe you sniff around people with their own interests | Feb 16 15:28 |
| Ender2070 | heres one clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMe5dOgbu40 | Feb 16 15:28 |
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| Ender2070 | heres the full thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stij8sUybx0 | Feb 16 15:28 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: YouTube- Lord Christopher Monckton Speaking in St. Paul .::. Size~: 142.76 KB | Feb 16 15:28 |
| schestowitz | Oh, not that pitch | Feb 16 15:28 |
| Ender2070 | i sniffed around lord monkton | Feb 16 15:28 |
| schestowitz | The whole theory of "Obama being grown in Kenya to take over the US and hand it over" | Feb 16 15:29 |
| Ender2070 | where did you get that | Feb 16 15:29 |
| Ender2070 | read the copenhagen treaty, stop being closed minded | Feb 16 15:29 |
| schestowitz | "Free Market Institute. "...... LOL | Feb 16 15:29 |
| schestowitz | Free market.. | Feb 16 15:29 |
| schestowitz | You know what this School of Chicago BS means? | Feb 16 15:30 |
| schestowitz | http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/58530 | Feb 16 15:30 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Guns and Butter - The New Junk Economics: From Democracy to Neoliberal Oligarchy - February 10, 2010 at 1:00pm | KPFA 94.1 FM Berkeley: Listener Sponsored Free Speech Radio .::. Size~: 21.26 KB | Feb 16 15:30 |
| Ender2070 | they host his talk | Feb 16 15:30 |
| schestowitz | I'll watch it later anyway | Feb 16 15:31 |
| schestowitz | Keeping an open mind and all.... | Feb 16 15:31 |
| Ender2070 | check out the copenhagen treaty | Feb 16 15:31 |
| schestowitz | cIt might be true that some people take advantage of the warming, BUT... | Feb 16 15:31 |
| schestowitz | It does not make it fake | Feb 16 15:31 |
| schestowitz | That is to say: | Feb 16 15:32 |
| Ender2070 | it creates a world government and transfers wealth from north america to third world countries | Feb 16 15:32 |
| schestowitz | It might be true that 9/11 was used to invade Iraq, BUT... | Feb 16 15:32 |
| schestowitz | It doesn't mean 9/11 was planned by the invaders | Feb 16 15:32 |
| schestowitz | You're leaping between causalities and correlations | Feb 16 15:32 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: that seems just | Feb 16 15:32 |
| schestowitz | the third world needs elevation | Feb 16 15:33 |
| schestowitz | Not with patent 'donations' | Feb 16 15:33 |
| schestowitz | "IP" | Feb 16 15:33 |
| Ender2070 | its communist | Feb 16 15:33 |
| schestowitz | It's not | Feb 16 15:33 |
| Ender2070 | redistribution of wealth is 100% marxist | Feb 16 15:33 |
| schestowitz | Like the neocons who say Obama is "Marxist" | Feb 16 15:33 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: no | Feb 16 15:33 |
| schestowitz | undoing slavery | Feb 16 15:33 |
| schestowitz | That's not communist | Feb 16 15:33 |
| Ender2070 | putting my grandchildren into debt-slavery isn't a solution to China's ongoing ignorance of the environment | Feb 16 15:33 |
| schestowitz | Get your facts precisely | Feb 16 15:33 |
| Ender2070 | its not undoing slavery | Feb 16 15:34 |
| Ender2070 | its going to cause the population to increase in north america, as we'll be poor | Feb 16 15:34 |
| Ender2070 | giving them a real reason to kill us | Feb 16 15:34 |
| schestowitz | So according to you, 1% controlling like 90% of the world's wealth is A-oK | Feb 16 15:34 |
| schestowitz | They won't kill toy | Feb 16 15:35 |
| Ender2070 | there are other ways to make them wealthy | Feb 16 15:35 |
| Ender2070 | besides robbing us | Feb 16 15:35 |
| schestowitz | you | Feb 16 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Although extreme poverty kill | Feb 16 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Like in northern Russia | Feb 16 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Life span of like 40 years | Feb 16 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Wealth is imaginary | Feb 16 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Property is not | Feb 16 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Worry about the landgrab in places like CA | Feb 16 15:35 |
| schestowitz | WHere they become properly of the government | Feb 16 15:36 |
| Ender2070 | north america in the future will be like northern russia | Feb 16 15:36 |
| schestowitz | Then sliced | Feb 16 15:36 |
| schestowitz | Unlike Mongolia where they now try this too | Feb 16 15:36 |
| Ender2070 | you should watch "The Soviet Story" | Feb 16 15:36 |
| Ender2070 | I think they should have that in every class room | Feb 16 15:36 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1OyIJtjdpo | Feb 16 15:36 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: YouTube- Death of a Nation 1/6 .::. Size~: 118.52 KB | Feb 16 15:36 |
| Ender2070 | http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x32cxf_yuri-bezmenov?from=rss | Feb 16 15:37 |
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| schestowitz | Send this to ESR :-) http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/10/opinion/10grinker.html | Feb 16 15:37 |
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| schestowitz | Radiobus: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/12/education/12bus.html | Feb 16 15:39 |
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| schestowitz | Ender2070: she's Canadian... http://www.thenation.com/doc/20100301/klein | Feb 16 15:39 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/16/adolf-hitler-makes-a.html | Feb 16 15:42 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzk4Mg any next-gen console confirmed yet? | Feb 16 15:43 |
| Ender2070 | her parents were communists | Feb 16 15:43 |
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| Ender2070 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Klein | Feb 16 15:43 |
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| schestowitz | Ender2070: I'm not quite seeing it | Feb 16 15:45 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/22088735 "Oh, we *do* want this so much: http://is.gd/8qCnk - Bye bye proprietary mobile systems. Hello #Qt magic! !gnu !fsf !linux" | Feb 16 15:46 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: WishMaster (wishmaster) 's status on Monday, 15-Feb-10 14:02:15 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.66 KB | Feb 16 15:46 |
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| Ender2070 | of course not | Feb 16 15:46 |
| schestowitz | I have a stupid question: | Feb 16 15:47 |
| Ender2070 | as the ex-kgb dude said | Feb 16 15:47 |
| schestowitz | Is it true that Android uses its own toolkits? | Feb 16 15:47 |
| schestowitz | No gtk? | Feb 16 15:47 |
| Ender2070 | once demoralization occurs, even if the facts are in your face you won't believe them | Feb 16 15:47 |
| schestowitz | Some swpats people are former communists | Feb 16 15:48 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: afaik it's true | Feb 16 15:48 |
| schestowitz | Also Microsoft secs | Feb 16 15:48 |
| schestowitz | *execs | Feb 16 15:48 |
| schestowitz | Not they have Stallber | Feb 16 15:48 |
| schestowitz | Hmmmmm... Stallman and Stalin too similar? | Feb 16 15:48 |
| Ender2070 | im not against social programs, however these people use just causes to push their agendas | Feb 16 15:49 |
| *Eruaran listens to Beethoven | Feb 16 15:50 | |
| MinceR | they are, to m$ fanboys | Feb 16 15:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @mparent77772 Pro-#torture, anti-civilisation http://bit.ly/ci256Y // Important refutation of Anderson's inhuman crazy talk #uk #gwot | Feb 16 15:53 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Pro-torture, anti-civilisation | Henry Porter |Comment is free |guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 189.79 KB | Feb 16 15:54 |
| *MinceR is listening to: Unreal Tournament OST - Nether Animal | Feb 16 15:54 | |
| Eruaran | I am reduced to tears by Beethoven's Beethoven's late string quartets. | Feb 16 15:55 |
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| Eruaran | uh... Beethoven twice... | Feb 16 15:55 |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10453214-38.html that's some intl' calls too | Feb 16 15:56 |
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| schestowitz | Eruaran: the st. Bernard? | Feb 16 15:57 |
| schestowitz | "woof woof" is a good hit | Feb 16 15:57 |
| MinceR | lol | Feb 16 15:57 |
| schestowitz | "woof" was lame | Feb 16 15:57 |
| schestowitz | The lyrics were all messed up | Feb 16 15:57 |
| MinceR | it's degrading for the composer to name such a monster after him | Feb 16 15:58 |
| Eruaran | String Quartet number 14, sixth movement. | Feb 16 15:58 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: huh? | Feb 16 15:58 |
| schestowitz | There's a composer called like the dog?? | Feb 16 15:58 |
| schestowitz | ;-) | Feb 16 15:59 |
| schestowitz | My birthday is same as Beethoven's | Feb 16 15:59 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100212/1527178155.shtml | Feb 16 15:59 |
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| schestowitz | They cover up deaths in the debt ceremony | Feb 16 15:59 |
| schestowitz | MAFIAA takes over the White House. http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100212/1351148152.shtml | Feb 16 16:00 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Find your geek today :P RT @g33f Why Geeks Make Better Lovers http://bit.ly/dmtmQy | Feb 16 16:02 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Awkward Things I Say To Girls » Blog Archive » Why Geeks Make Good Lovers .::. Size~: 64.23 KB | Feb 16 16:02 |
| schestowitz | Good photo of Antonio.... http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/14/broke-ass-washington.html | Feb 16 16:03 |
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| trmanco | hey guys | Feb 16 16:10 |
| MinceR | hay | Feb 16 16:10 |
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| trmanco | slow day? | Feb 16 16:22 |
| MinceR | i guess so | Feb 16 16:22 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @rahulsundaram: Since Moblin is based on #Fedora and MeeGo is planning to use RPM likely Fedora will be base distro for Nokia and Intel i | Feb 16 16:22 | |
| trmanco | ping schestowitz | Feb 16 16:23 |
| schestowitz | My dad has only just found out about GS | Feb 16 16:23 |
| schestowitz | They may hevae 'stolen' over bn$70 from England | Feb 16 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Like in Greeze | Feb 16 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Like in Greexe | Feb 16 16:23 |
| MinceR | General Standard? | Feb 16 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Like in Greece | Feb 16 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Goldman Sachs | Feb 16 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Big scnadal | Feb 16 16:23 |
| schestowitz | An editor of the Market (IIRC) blasted them | Feb 16 16:24 |
| schestowitz | Get, trmanco | Feb 16 16:24 |
| schestowitz | What's up? | Feb 16 16:24 |
| schestowitz | http://prorev.com/2010/02/goldman-sachs-helped-greece-cover-up.html | Feb 16 16:24 |
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| schestowitz | [16:16:46] Roy: http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/thespread/volcker_to_goldman_sachs_give_up_Cwpu63pVnFOPI9QlspignN | Feb 16 16:24 |
| schestowitz | [16:16:53] Roy: http://baselinescenario.com/2010/02/14/goldman-goes-rogue-%E2%80%93-special-european-audit-to-follow/ | Feb 16 16:24 |
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| schestowitz | [16:16:54] Roy: http://theautomaticearth.blogspot.com/2010/02/february-15-2010-will-europe-throw-out.html | Feb 16 16:24 |
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| schestowitz | [16:16:58] Roy: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/edmundconway/100003757/did-goldman-sachs-help-britain-hide-its-debts-to | Feb 16 16:24 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz: just surfing the web, and dropped by to say hello | Feb 16 16:24 |
| schestowitz | Is everything good? | Feb 16 16:24 |
| trmanco | yeah, it's just that it's cold outside | Feb 16 16:25 |
| schestowitz | I installed the latest version of phIRCe on the server | Feb 16 16:25 |
| trmanco | went to the gym yesterday | Feb 16 16:25 |
| schestowitz | Oh, patch WordPress BTW | Feb 16 16:25 |
| trmanco | oh, will do | Feb 16 16:25 |
| schestowitz | Our DB got smaller some days ago and I don't know why | Feb 16 16:25 |
| schestowitz | I'm waiting for tessier__ to take a look | Feb 16 16:25 |
| Ender2070 | <schestowitz> They cover up deaths in the debt ceremony | Feb 16 16:26 |
| Ender2070 | i thought it was fishy too | Feb 16 16:26 |
| schestowitz | Always so negative, this guy: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/chrome_os_desktop_winner_think_not | Feb 16 16:27 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: So is ChromeOS a desktop winner? I think not. .::. Size~: 39.92 KB | Feb 16 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: no | Feb 16 16:28 |
| schestowitz | They have copyright :-) | Feb 16 16:28 |
| schestowitz | sarcasm | Feb 16 16:28 |
| schestowitz | They want exclusive rights.... | Feb 16 16:28 |
| schestowitz | ....to broadcast a man's death! | Feb 16 16:28 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Feb 16 16:28 |
| schestowitz | :| | Feb 16 16:28 |
| schestowitz | "Damn you, freetards! It's OUR death... we finally have this rare events to monetise.... DMCA... " | Feb 16 16:29 |
| schestowitz | They produced "Quality" content with their /defective/ facilities | Feb 16 16:29 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: how's the diet that goes along w/ it? | Feb 16 16:31 |
| trmanco | schestowitz: diet? don't need one, I just need to put on some muscle :P | Feb 16 16:31 |
| trmanco | I'm actually too skinny | Feb 16 16:32 |
| schestowitz | But diet is more important than exercise | Feb 16 16:33 |
| schestowitz | "You are what you eat" | Feb 16 16:34 |
| trmanco | yeah | Feb 16 16:34 |
| trmanco | I have had a good diet for years | Feb 16 16:34 |
| schestowitz | You are not what you s* (hey! It rhymes) | Feb 16 16:34 |
| trmanco | a healthy one too | Feb 16 16:34 |
| trmanco | I eat my vegetables for example :P | Feb 16 16:34 |
| trmanco | Im not a big fan of french fries | Feb 16 16:35 |
| trmanco | hamburgers full of fatty sauces and meat | Feb 16 16:35 |
| MinceR | if "you are what you eat" then everybody is a plant | Feb 16 16:36 |
| trmanco | I barely drink anything but water and milk | Feb 16 16:36 |
| trmanco | a plant? | Feb 16 16:36 |
| MinceR | yes | Feb 16 16:36 |
| trmanco | why? | Feb 16 16:36 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: no, it gets processed | Feb 16 16:36 |
| MinceR | plants don't eat; plant-eating creatures eat plants, and from the axiom follows that they're plants | Feb 16 16:36 |
| schestowitz | acids tear down the cells and build their own ones with different dna.. through duplication | Feb 16 16:37 |
| MinceR | animal-eating creatures eat plant-eating creatures, which are plants, therefore they're plants too | Feb 16 16:37 |
| trmanco | LOL | Feb 16 16:37 |
| schestowitz | As I understand it, vegetables though have something that improves the replication, making it less lossy/defective and thus like longer | Feb 16 16:37 |
| MinceR | so either this absurd conclusion is true or "you are what you eat" doesn't hold | Feb 16 16:37 |
| trmanco | funny | Feb 16 16:37 |
| trmanco | well, that usually refers to those people that only eat junk food | Feb 16 16:38 |
| MinceR | then again, a biologist friend argued that plants "eat" the nutrients they draw from the soil | Feb 16 16:38 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: but water too is in contant circulation | Feb 16 16:38 |
| MinceR | so we all eat soil | Feb 16 16:38 |
| trmanco | and the ones that eat healthy food | Feb 16 16:38 |
| schestowitz | So in a way we eat ourselves | Feb 16 16:38 |
| schestowitz | We drink our own urine | Feb 16 16:38 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: this is the Matrix? | Feb 16 16:38 |
| trmanco | lol | Feb 16 16:38 |
| trmanco | that is true | Feb 16 16:38 |
| schestowitz | In your lifetime you'll consume one mulecule of urine (or more) that went through Shakespeare's bladder | Feb 16 16:39 |
| schestowitz | *molecule | Feb 16 16:39 |
| trmanco | haha | Feb 16 16:39 |
| MinceR | my body holds a lot of information that distinguishes it from the organisms i eat | Feb 16 16:39 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/TI-OMAP4-and-Blaze/?kc=rss | Feb 16 16:40 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: TI touts OMAP4 with do-it-all development platform - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 61.24 KB | Feb 16 16:40 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linux.com/distrocentral/distroblogs/286927:some-opportunistic-developer-updates jono: "Rock and roll, my friends. " | Feb 16 16:41 |
| schestowitz | I thought he was into heavy metal... | Feb 16 16:41 |
| MinceR | that dual-screen phone is funny | Feb 16 16:41 |
| trmanco | well | Feb 16 16:41 |
| trmanco | cya later | Feb 16 16:41 |
| trmanco | take care | Feb 16 16:41 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: your snot is not an organism :-) | Feb 16 16:42 |
| jono | schestowitz thanks :-) | Feb 16 16:42 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: i don't eat snot | Feb 16 16:42 |
| schestowitz | Someone does | Feb 16 16:42 |
| schestowitz | Bacteria at least | Feb 16 16:42 |
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| schestowitz | ANd if you wash that off then it goes into another digestion cycle | Feb 16 16:43 |
| schestowitz | The world's water is becoming more pollutd | Feb 16 16:43 |
| schestowitz | Arsenic even | Feb 16 16:43 |
| schestowitz | And the pesticides we manufacture | Feb 16 16:43 |
| schestowitz | Higher birth defect rates | Feb 16 16:43 |
| schestowitz | Not to worry.... send A/Cs to the poles and refine the oceans with some water purifiers..... that ought to work ......:-S | Feb 16 16:44 |
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| schestowitz | http://botptr.wordpress.com/2010/02/10/what-happened-ubuntu-you-used-to-be-cool/ | Feb 16 17:02 |
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| schestowitz | How's this one coming along? http://drfav.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/introducing-shaman-a-new-universal-package-management-frontend/ | Feb 16 17:04 |
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| schestowitz | "Microsoft managed to divert the journalists' attention from the essence of the agreement: Microsoft only embraces Novell to try to suffocate better Free Software in general." http://www.april.org/en/position-microsoftnovell-agreement-november-2006-0 | Feb 16 17:13 |
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| schestowitz | > Cool. While I was doing the translation, I ran into the following URL | Feb 16 17:14 |
| schestowitz | > from a French pro-free-software group: | Feb 16 17:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Feb 16 17:14 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.april.org/en/position-microsoftnovell-agreement-november-2006-0 | Feb 16 17:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Feb 16 17:14 |
| schestowitz | > Like your pages, it gives a good write-up of why the | Feb 16 17:14 |
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| schestowitz | > Novell-Microsoft deal is harmful to free software. | Feb 16 17:14 |
| schestowitz | http://themortgagecorner.blogspot.com/2010/02/what-is-happening-in-and-to-our-nation.html | Feb 16 17:16 |
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| schestowitz | Ok, bbl | Feb 16 17:16 |
| omar_ | schestowitz, the funniest joke of the month is Microsoft's latest desparate attempt to compete with the iPhone. :P | Feb 16 17:22 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz, If Apple want to prove how much of a bunch idiots they are, they would let MS's new blatant cloning of the iPhone slip without the nice lawsuit. | Feb 16 17:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] If Apple want to prove how really dumb they are, they would let #MS's new blatant cloning of the #iPhone slip without the lawsuit. | Feb 16 17:27 | |
| Omar87 | Hello? | Feb 16 17:30 |
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| ender2070_ | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzk4MQ | Feb 16 17:48 |
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| ender2070_ | Open Source Gallium3D Support | Feb 16 17:48 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @EFF: Digital Books and Your Rights: A Checklist for Readers http://eff.org/r.g9d | Feb 16 18:08 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Visited #vibgyor2010 international short & documentary festival venue today. film workshop started today. South asian conf is on tomorrow. | Feb 16 18:20 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] focus theme of #vibgyor2010 is #southasia : justice peace and democracy. Dr. Binayaksen, sirithunga jayasurya, etc will participate. | Feb 16 18:23 | |
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| ender2070_ | stay tuned, over the next few days I might have time for an experiment | Feb 16 18:42 |
| ender2070_ | i have a voltage meter and i'm going to compare the power use of windows vs various linux distros | Feb 16 18:43 |
| ender2070_ | which OS is more "green" | Feb 16 18:43 |
| ender2070_ | ill be sure to try out tiny core too hahaha :D | Feb 16 18:44 |
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| ender2070_ | cubezzz - http://www.pwnage.ca/?q=node/17 | Feb 16 18:54 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #adium pet hate, must file a bug report or something: when you bring Adium to front in dock, it should not cover alerts with the #chat win! | Feb 16 18:59 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/22198999#notice-22199226 "@schestowitz El Reg? The IT Tabloid that is about aloien abduction all over the place? ;-)" | Feb 16 19:41 |
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| ender2070_ | very awesome - http://brej.org/blog/?p=346 | Feb 16 19:46 |
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| ender2070_ | not that I still need to do this... | Feb 16 19:46 |
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| schestowitz | ender2070_: good video... Yuri Bezmenov | Feb 16 20:03 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for that | Feb 16 20:03 |
| schestowitz | Very timely | Feb 16 20:03 |
| schestowitz | ender2070_: I know Brej from here | Feb 16 20:04 |
| schestowitz | I worked with him, sort of | Feb 16 20:04 |
| schestowitz | 8 years ago... | Feb 16 20:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Half-black character? Not to worry, just put the blond blue-eyed white guy in BLACKFACE! http://is.gd/8wFIE #racefail | Feb 16 20:05 | |
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| schestowitz | "@jwildeboer I used the past tense" | Feb 16 20:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Half-black character? Not to worry, just put the blond blue-eyed white guy in BLACKFACE! http://is.gd/8wFIE Maman, comment je t'aime! | Feb 16 20:08 | |
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| schestowitz | "@schestowitz Well that is no good which do you like now" http://twitter.com/satipera/statuses/9192248124 | Feb 16 20:09 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Twitter / satipera: @schestowitz Well that is ... .::. Size~: 7.14 KB | Feb 16 20:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@doctorow Dear expensive immigration #attorneys: please learn to open encrypted ZIP files. Its not hard. // try teaching them #GNUPG | Feb 16 20:09 | |
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| ender2070_ | schestowitz - yes its very timely, np | Feb 16 20:10 |
| schestowitz | "@satipera I honestly can't think of one, except some blogs like Big Brother Watch and Moody" | Feb 16 20:10 |
| schestowitz | ender2070_: except the communism part | Feb 16 20:10 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/satipera/statuses/9192786615 "@schestowitz I saw today as my Job centre plus bod flipped through training courses that there was an introduction to linux :)" | Feb 16 20:10 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Twitter / satipera: @schestowitz I saw today a ... .::. Size~: 7.28 KB | Feb 16 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Heh. | Feb 16 20:10 |
| ender2070_ | they say communism, we say socialism | Feb 16 20:12 |
| schestowitz | I say potattto | Feb 16 20:16 |
| schestowitz | ender2070_: many things he says are like, "Bingo!" | Feb 16 20:16 |
| schestowitz | Like the idea that in the crisis free market will be compromised (like bailout) | Feb 16 20:16 |
| schestowitz | This whole mind programming thing is scary and true | Feb 16 20:17 |
| schestowitz | Companies like Apple and Microsoft do this too | Feb 16 20:17 |
| schestowitz | They have the means ($$$) | Feb 16 20:17 |
| schestowitz | I'm reading a book this days on the subject | Feb 16 20:17 |
| schestowitz | Will help with BN insights O reckon | Feb 16 20:17 |
| ender2070_ | i've been reading a book called "Brainwashing" | Feb 16 20:18 |
| MinceR | neurolinguistics? | Feb 16 20:18 |
| ender2070_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwashing_(book) | Feb 16 20:19 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Brainwashing: The Science of Thought Control - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 96.3 KB | Feb 16 20:19 |
| ender2070_ | it goes into neurolinguistings | Feb 16 20:19 |
| ender2070_ | bah | Feb 16 20:19 |
| ender2070_ | neurolinguistics | Feb 16 20:19 |
| ender2070_ | It covers manson a bit | Feb 16 20:20 |
| ender2070_ | Did you know he tried Scientology but found it "too crazy" ? | Feb 16 20:20 |
| ender2070_ | Yuri was right about a lot of stuff, especially the part about showing facts to people and them still not believing it | Feb 16 20:21 |
| MinceR | Yuri? | Feb 16 20:21 |
| ender2070_ | Yuri Bezmenov | Feb 16 20:22 |
| ender2070_ | ex-kgb | Feb 16 20:22 |
| ender2070_ | http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x32cxf_yuri-bezmenov?from=rss | Feb 16 20:28 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Dailymotion - Yuri Bezmenov - a video .::. Size~: 56.32 KB | Feb 16 20:28 |
| ender2070_ | theres the video Mincer | Feb 16 20:28 |
| schestowitz | ender2070_: Tyranny of the Olympics http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/2010/02/sporting-life-4/ | Feb 16 20:29 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: good vid | Feb 16 20:30 |
| schestowitz | +1\ | Feb 16 20:30 |
| ender2070_ | then theres a documentary called "The Soviet Story" which I was alerted by seeing this news article: | Feb 16 20:30 |
| ender2070_ | http://www.torontosun.com/news/columnists/peter_worthington/2010/02/03/12730236.html | Feb 16 20:30 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: No refuting the hard truths in the Soviet Story: Worthington | Peter Worthington | Columnists | News | Toronto Sun .::. Size~: 68.17 KB | Feb 16 20:30 |
| MinceR | if only Trash sucked less | Feb 16 20:30 |
| MinceR | so i could actually view it | Feb 16 20:30 |
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| schestowitz | http://audioboo.fm/boos/92335-gamelan-workshop | Feb 16 20:32 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: AudioBoo / Gamelan workshop .::. Size~: 9 KB | Feb 16 20:32 |
| MinceR | this piece of malware maxes out one core and also uses the other | Feb 16 20:32 |
| schestowitz | the vid? | Feb 16 20:32 |
| MinceR | i had to actually resize the browser window before loading the url because the browser freezes up if i try to scroll after Trash started running | Feb 16 20:32 |
| MinceR | yes, that Trash video | Feb 16 20:32 |
| schestowitz | oh | Feb 16 20:33 |
| schestowitz | Flush | Feb 16 20:33 |
| schestowitz | I tried] to find ogg | Feb 16 20:34 |
| schestowitz | No d/l links | Feb 16 20:34 |
| schestowitz | lasy year Dailymotion said they's support ogg | Feb 16 20:34 |
| ender2070_ | yes, tyranny follows the olympics | Feb 16 20:34 |
| ender2070_ | look at the olympic history | Feb 16 20:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[aondo] spent some good hours building ffmpeg out of git to build it into blender. faulty system files made it quite hard, but cleaned up now. | Feb 16 20:34 | |
| schestowitz | Grrece....... | Feb 16 20:35 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Feb 16 20:35 |
| ender2070_ | yes yes | Feb 16 20:37 |
| ender2070_ | lol | Feb 16 20:37 |
| ender2070_ | canada's hosted the games 3 times now | Feb 16 20:38 |
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| schestowitz | tessier__: are you around? | Feb 16 20:41 |
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| ender2070_ | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1250813/MAIL-ON-SUNDAY-COMMENT-The-professors-amazing-climate-change-retreat.html | Feb 16 20:43 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: MAIL ON SUNDAY COMMENT: The professor's amazing climate change retreat | Mail Online .::. Size~: 75.57 KB | Feb 16 20:43 |
| MinceR | i can't even watch the video all the way because Trash crashes | Feb 16 20:43 |
| ender2070_ | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn-Astonishment-scientist-centre-global-warming-email-row-admits-data-organised.html | Feb 16 20:44 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Climategate U-turn: Astonishment as scientist at centre of global warming email row admits data not well organised | Mail Online .::. Size~: 73.91 KB | Feb 16 20:44 |
| MinceR | the beta version of their player works though | Feb 16 20:44 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @schestowitz agreed, I have been following Glyn for a while now. Since I watched a video he did on floss. | Feb 16 20:44 | |
| ender2070_ | LOL "Professor Jones also conceded the possibility that the world was warmer in medieval times than now – suggesting global warming may not be a man-made phenomenon." | Feb 16 20:45 |
| ender2070_ | and | Feb 16 20:46 |
| ender2070_ | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/7231386/African-crops-yield-another-catastrophe-for-the-IPCC.html | Feb 16 20:46 |
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| schestowitz | ender2070_: Vancouver is very hot this time of year | Feb 16 20:49 |
| ender2070_ | ok? | Feb 16 20:49 |
| schestowitz | ender2070_: mail is borderline tabloid | Feb 16 20:49 |
| ender2070_ | their facts still check out | Feb 16 20:49 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @_Goblin Question marks. :) | Feb 16 20:49 | |
| schestowitz | "@glynmoody so many cellphones are not good news. They induce cancer" | Feb 16 20:50 |
| ender2070_ | cellphones could be asbestos 2.0 | Feb 16 20:51 |
| schestowitz | Opposite? | Feb 16 20:51 |
| ender2070_ | science on both sides fighting each other, nobody finding out the truth till 80 years later | Feb 16 20:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody ...feeling Mr Lanier's book is his revenge because nobody cares any more that he's the "father of virtual reality"... | Feb 16 20:51 | |
| schestowitz | RT @glynmoody I can't help feeling Mr Lanier's book is his revenge because nobody cares any more that he's the "father of virtual reality"... | Feb 16 20:52 |
| ender2070_ | virtual reality is vapourware | Feb 16 20:52 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] is it ethical for FOSS peeps to encourage peeps to join closed networks like Facebook? Even if it is for a FOSS project | Feb 16 20:52 | |
| schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/20100212/1210038151.shtml | Feb 16 20:53 |
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| ender2070_ | gnubook ? | Feb 16 20:53 |
| ender2070_ | ROFL, gotta love the UK | Feb 16 20:56 |
| ender2070_ | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8506877.stm | Feb 16 20:56 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 87.84 KB | Feb 16 20:56 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/12/binyam-mohamed-alan-johnson-mi5 | Feb 16 20:56 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Binyam Mohamed storm widens as Johnson defends MI5 over torture |World news |guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 72.57 KB | Feb 16 20:56 |
| ender2070_ | the bbc article I linked is regarding UK's Pre-Death tax | Feb 16 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Nice video: http://www.cafu.de/ | Feb 16 20:58 |
| schestowitz | You mock the UK, you !!1 | Feb 16 20:58 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canadian-aid-groups-told-to-keep-quiet-on-policy-issues/article1465349 | Feb 16 20:58 |
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| schestowitz | :-) :-) | Feb 16 20:58 |
| ender2070_ | what about this canadian news | Feb 16 20:59 |
| ender2070_ | http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2010/02/15/asthma-ontario-health.html | Feb 16 20:59 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: CBC News - Health - 1 in 3 chance of developing asthma: study .::. Size~: 32.05 KB | Feb 16 20:59 |
| schestowitz | We still get some frost: http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackheathspur13/4347878133/sizes/l/in/pool-96539599@N00/ | Feb 16 21:00 |
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| schestowitz | We had some snow early in the monring | Feb 16 21:00 |
| schestowitz | ender2070_: nice link, ta | Feb 16 21:01 |
| ender2070_ | i've not decided if I believe in chemtrails, but it might support that theory | Feb 16 21:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Biathlon. How healthy is that. May I suggest swapping the rifle for a shopping basket. | Feb 16 21:01 | |
| schestowitz | Time to shut down GS: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/14/business/global/14debt.html?ref=global-home&pagewanted=all | Feb 16 21:02 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: | Feb 16 21:02 |
| schestowitz | Happy birthday to the Budapest Open Access Initiative, which is eight years old today. | Feb 16 21:02 |
| schestowitz | http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/2010/02/boai-is-eight.html | Feb 16 21:02 |
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| ender2070_ | it doesnt help that the Canadian government said that the issue of chemtrails was "national security" | Feb 16 21:03 |
| schestowitz | Heh. | Feb 16 21:03 |
| schestowitz | "Defense forces..." | Feb 16 21:03 |
| schestowitz | "National SECURITY" | Feb 16 21:03 |
| ender2070_ | yeah | Feb 16 21:03 |
| schestowitz | "DOD" | Feb 16 21:03 |
| schestowitz | "Homeland SECURITY" | Feb 16 21:03 |
| schestowitz | In Russia too | Feb 16 21:03 |
| schestowitz | Bombs= defence budget | Feb 16 21:04 |
| ender2070_ | lol | Feb 16 21:04 |
| ender2070_ | its always defense | Feb 16 21:04 |
| schestowitz | Bamabama said that ACTA had to stay secret because of natiobal security | Feb 16 21:04 |
| schestowitz | Profits for MAFIAA is now a bombthreat? | Feb 16 21:04 |
| ender2070_ | seriously? | Feb 16 21:04 |
| schestowitz | yes | Feb 16 21:04 |
| ender2070_ | the UK government classified that recent autopsy report | Feb 16 21:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en-GB&q=obama+acta+national+secuerity&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8 | Feb 16 21:05 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: obama acta national secuerity - Google Search .::. Size~: 32.8 KB | Feb 16 21:05 |
| schestowitz | Biden is a tool | Feb 16 21:05 |
| schestowitz | Bama seems like a tool's "yes man", sadly | Feb 16 21:05 |
| ender2070_ | oh yeah I remember that | Feb 16 21:05 |
| schestowitz | People received warning about Biden before the elections | Feb 16 21:05 |
| ender2070_ | shouldnt be national security unless they plan to use defense forces to enforce the laws | Feb 16 21:05 |
| schestowitz | He's the left-wing Cheney in my eyes | Feb 16 21:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] "As unloved as a rubber chicken at a garage sale." | Feb 16 21:05 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] (shamelessly pilfered from @klynnwillis anecdote) | Feb 16 21:05 | |
| ender2070_ | Downloading music illegally? Blackwater wants to chat.... | Feb 16 21:06 |
| schestowitz | ender2070_: maybe they planned to bomb people's house if they swapped britney tunes | Feb 16 21:06 |
| ender2070_ | ROFL | Feb 16 21:06 |
| MinceR | there's no "left-wing" in Jesusland | Feb 16 21:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] (shamelessly pilfered from @karlylynn anecdote) | Feb 16 21:06 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] watching survivors. It is not very good. | Feb 16 21:06 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/11308 | Feb 16 21:07 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: U.S. cyber counterattack: Bomb 'em one way or the other | NetworkWorld.com Community .::. Size~: 69.6 KB | Feb 16 21:07 |
| ender2070_ | gotta stop focusing on the wings of the giant bird | Feb 16 21:07 |
| schestowitz | http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/020807-rsa-cyber-attacks.html | Feb 16 21:07 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: U.S. cyber counterattack: Bomb 'em one way or the other .::. Size~: 84.53 KB | Feb 16 21:07 |
| schestowitz | " | Feb 16 21:07 |
| schestowitz | If the United States found itself under a major cyberattack aimed at undermining the nation’s critical information infrastructure, the Department of Defense is prepared, based on the authority of the president, to launch a cyber counterattack or an actual bombing of an attack source. | Feb 16 21:07 |
| schestowitz | The primary group responsible for analyzing the need for any cyber counterstrike is the National Cyber Response Coordination Group (NCRCG). The three key members of the NCRCG, who hail from the US-CERT computer-readiness team, the Department of Justice and the Defense Department, this week described how they would seek to coordinate a national response in the event of a major cyber-event from a known attacker. | Feb 16 21:07 |
| schestowitz | " | Feb 16 21:07 |
| schestowitz | Don't hijack PCs | Feb 16 21:07 |
| schestowitz | You could have T tomahawk flying through your window | Feb 16 21:08 |
| ender2070_ | does that mean they will coordinate a national response to Microsoft's hijacking? | Feb 16 21:08 |
| schestowitz | Maybe | Feb 16 21:08 |
| ender2070_ | :D | Feb 16 21:08 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Bomb(R) | Feb 16 21:08 |
| ender2070_ | perhaps thats how they get us to accept it | Feb 16 21:08 |
| schestowitz | They just need some 2nd hand planes | Feb 16 21:08 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they can use Gates' | Feb 16 21:08 |
| schestowitz | He could do a kamikaze on the file sharers | Feb 16 21:08 |
| ender2070_ | I used to remove spyware from peoples pcs | Feb 16 21:09 |
| ender2070_ | I am starting to like this idea | Feb 16 21:09 |
| ender2070_ | bomb the spyware authors! | Feb 16 21:09 |
| schestowitz | The spywarre stays | Feb 16 21:09 |
| MinceR | start with Redmond? | Feb 16 21:09 |
| schestowitz | it's like "bombing terrorism" | Feb 16 21:09 |
| schestowitz | You can't kill a person to kill code | Feb 16 21:09 |
| MinceR | you can prevent future code if you know the right person, though | Feb 16 21:10 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: start with Gold man's sacks | Feb 16 21:10 |
| MinceR | Goldman Sucks? | Feb 16 21:10 |
| schestowitz | Godman's Sachs... "doing God's work" | Feb 16 21:11 |
| ender2070_ | my idea of population control mixes in survival of the fittest | Feb 16 21:11 |
| ender2070_ | simply remove warning labels | Feb 16 21:11 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en-GB&q=Godman%27s+Sachs...+%22doing+God%27s+work%22&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8 | Feb 16 21:11 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Godman's Sachs... "doing God's work" - Google Search .::. Size~: 28.49 KB | Feb 16 21:11 |
| ender2070_ | also don't require seatbelts per law | Feb 16 21:11 |
| ender2070_ | lol | Feb 16 21:12 |
| ender2070_ | "Javex? is that a spice?" bam | Feb 16 21:12 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 16 21:12 |
| ender2070_ | leave legislation alone :D | Feb 16 21:13 |
| MinceR | "the spice extends life" | Feb 16 21:13 |
| ender2070_ | if we stop saving idiots lives, the world would be better off | Feb 16 21:13 |
| ender2070_ | no need to regulate births | Feb 16 21:13 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 16 21:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Bavarian Minister of Justice: "you can't steal data" [german] http://bit.ly/bmee2X [english] http://bit.ly/bPCp26 | Feb 16 21:13 | |
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| schestowitz | http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/02/usb-power-outlet-iphone-universal-remote-impress-at-macworld.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss | Feb 16 21:18 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: ender2070_: won't work | Feb 16 21:19 |
| schestowitz | The world needs people for many areas to be sustainable | Feb 16 21:19 |
| MinceR | not by itself | Feb 16 21:19 |
| MinceR | actually we might have the technology to replace a lot of people with machines already :> | Feb 16 21:19 |
| schestowitz | If you envision a world of only people with suitcases who write code, then you simplify | Feb 16 21:20 |
| ender2070_ | http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/geraldwarner/100025849/control-freaks-want-web-licences-to-end-bloggers-anonymity-be-very-afraid/ | Feb 16 21:20 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: that needs energy | Feb 16 21:20 |
| ender2070_ | ms employee wants this | Feb 16 21:20 |
| MinceR | i don't see why the suitcases are important | Feb 16 21:20 |
| schestowitz | To extract energy you need labour too | Feb 16 21:20 |
| MinceR | i think backpacks are a lot more utilitarian | Feb 16 21:20 |
| MinceR | less people need less energy | Feb 16 21:20 |
| schestowitz | More pragmatic | Feb 16 21:20 |
| schestowitz | BTW, RMS goes around with a backpack | Feb 16 21:20 |
| MinceR | or that | Feb 16 21:20 |
| MinceR | so do i | Feb 16 21:21 |
| schestowitz | Which may seem odd, but it makes sense | Feb 16 21:21 |
| ender2070_ | I go around with a backpack | Feb 16 21:21 |
| schestowitz | I thought about it too | Feb 16 21:21 |
| schestowitz | I hate gym bags | Feb 16 21:21 |
| MinceR | i hate wasting a hand on just carrying something :> | Feb 16 21:21 |
| ender2070_ | why carry around a suitcase | Feb 16 21:21 |
| schestowitz | I'd rather carry my gear on my spinal area | Feb 16 21:21 |
| ender2070_ | my backpack is even designed to hold a laptop | Feb 16 21:21 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: get a partner | Feb 16 21:21 |
| MinceR | my bigger backpack is designed to carry a laptop | Feb 16 21:21 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I see those | Feb 16 21:22 |
| ender2070_ | be back later | Feb 16 21:22 |
| schestowitz | So ergonomic it hardly feels it's there | Feb 16 21:22 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.lovecleanstreets.org/ | Feb 16 21:30 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/feb/15/phil-jones-lost-weather-data | Feb 16 21:32 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @ergeekgoddess RT @WSJ #Haiti earthquake killed 200K-250K ppl + caused $13.2 bln damage // destroying #Iraq cost $12 billion every MONTH | Feb 16 21:35 | |
| schestowitz | http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2010/02/journal-open-source-networks-and-heroin.html | Feb 16 21:35 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 probably much more | Feb 16 21:35 | |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz I'm not sure that that's been conclusively demonstrated - the benefits probably outweigh the risks currently" | Feb 16 21:48 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] New Blog Post | Customer Profiling | The Digital Prism http://tinyurl.com/y9lbqxy | Feb 16 21:48 | |
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| schestowitz | "@glynmoody many studies defending it are sponsored by you-know-who. Shades of Exxon/Philip Morris..." | Feb 16 21:50 |
| schestowitz | Heh. "content......." Blech. http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/02/16/consumers-more-likely-to-pay-for-professional-online-content | Feb 16 21:50 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Consumers More Likely To Pay For Professional Online Content | WebProNews .::. Size~: 31.66 KB | Feb 16 21:50 |
| schestowitz | The cellphones experiment has lasted only a decade so far | Feb 16 21:50 |
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| schestowitz | Hi, tomsdale | Feb 16 21:51 |
| tomsdale | hi again | Feb 16 21:52 |
| schestowitz | http://rawstory.com/2010/02/report-france-deliberately-soldiers-nuclear-guinea-pigs/ | Feb 16 21:53 |
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| schestowitz | http://rawstory.com/2010/02/bristol-palin-calls-fox-writers-heartless-jerks-family-guy/ | Feb 16 21:53 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Bristol Palin calls Fox writers heartless jerks over Family Guy snub | Raw Story .::. Size~: 39.14 KB | Feb 16 21:53 |
| tomsdale | regarding my silverlight story - I got helped by the linux reddit channel but because it is silverlight it got downvoted (understandible). In the Canadian channel people didn't disagree with my position and I think some wrote their opinion to rts and ctv which I think is exactly the thing to do. | Feb 16 21:53 |
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| tomsdale | so if you are canadian and on linux and can't watch the olympics because of silverlight here is the place to complain about it.: http://www.ctvolympics.ca/about-us/contact-us/index.html | Feb 16 21:56 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] forgot how funny Galaxy Quest was until I watched it again last night | Feb 16 21:59 | |
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| schestowitz | "@schestowitz @glynmoody I believe cell phones provide a real risk, if you talk inhumanly too much." | Feb 16 22:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] @schestowitz probably ... but i'll already get anti-tweets for saying even that | Feb 16 22:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 expenditure at about $800bn iirc | Feb 16 22:06 | |
| MinceR | http://apple.slashdot.org/story/10/02/16/160241/Apple-Bans-Jailbreakers-From-the-App-Store?from=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29 | Feb 16 22:07 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/Maemo/Maemo+Harmattan/news.asp?c=18500 | Feb 16 22:08 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: /me bans Apple | Feb 16 22:08 |
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| schestowitz | http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2010/02/journal-open-source-networks-and-heroin.html | Feb 16 22:08 |
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| MinceR | :> | Feb 16 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Bad publicity | Feb 16 22:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Another uk private school applies to become a state school, good job. | Feb 16 22:08 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @satipera Another uk private school applies to become a state school, good job. | Feb 16 22:09 | |
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| schestowitz | Ballnux: http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Feb2010/Samsung-Wave-Bada-Based-SmartPhone-Announced-3G.html | Feb 16 22:11 |
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| MinceR | as usual, no keyboard (apparently) | Feb 16 22:14 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] listening to Howard Zinn http://tankriot.com/2010/087/ | Feb 16 22:24 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: [ba] Duh! | Feb 16 22:34 |
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| MinceR | :> | Feb 16 22:37 |
| MinceR | Bad-Ah | Feb 16 22:37 |
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| FurnaceBoy | rnb: esta ai? | Feb 16 22:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: did yuo see the Popular Mechanics thing? | Feb 16 22:49 |
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| schestowitz | Hmmmm.. turns out Matt Damon was a close friend of Zinn | Feb 16 23:02 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: I haven't, where? | Feb 16 23:03 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: http://tankriot.com/2010/087/ | Feb 16 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | <http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lexology.com%2Flibrary%2Fdetail.aspx%3Fg%3D8f59971d-ddde-4af6-9ce9-20ce260a1354&usg=AFQjCNF1BJogRLXSIIBaYmjP2Hm0tdFmSQ> | Feb 16 23:19 |
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| schestowitz | > | Feb 16 23:19 |
| schestowitz | > Do you have the order? It's not on PACER, and I'm not a lexology member. | Feb 16 23:19 |
| schestowitz | Me neither. maybe someone in GL can access it. | Feb 16 23:19 |
| schestowitz | Does anyone have subs? | Feb 16 23:20 |
| schestowitz | zoobab? | Feb 16 23:20 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: give it a go: Howard Zinn part abut 1 hour in < http://tankriot.com/2010/087/ > | Feb 16 23:33 |
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| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: | Feb 16 23:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/9176343323 | Feb 16 23:44 |
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| FurnaceBoy | ^^ i think you will form similar conclusions | Feb 16 23:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | to mine | Feb 16 23:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: also of interest http://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/9189783731 | Feb 16 23:45 |
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| FurnaceBoy | rnb: eu tenho uma pergunta para voce, sobre um trabalho no SP | Feb 16 23:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | rnb: me liga quando pode, favor | Feb 16 23:47 |
| tessier | Es interesante que similar el portugués al espanol. A veces no doy cuenta que no es espanol. | Feb 16 23:49 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@schestowitz my figure was per mth; so $800bn/12 ~5.5 yrs...seems about right...#iraq upfront cost ~$1trillion by now, eventual MUCH higher | Feb 16 23:52 | |
| FurnaceBoy | sim, sao semelhantes | Feb 16 23:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | por causa disso, eu consigo ler algum espanhol tambem | Feb 16 23:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | mas, nao posso falar espanhol sem muito confusao risos | Feb 16 23:53 |
| tessier | jejeje | Feb 16 23:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | :) | Feb 16 23:54 |
| tessier | No hablo portugués pero entiendo todo. Que raro. | Feb 16 23:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | entendi | Feb 16 23:55 |
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