DaemonFC | The Democrats should force an up or down vote | Feb 24 00:00 |
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schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: one relate to another | Feb 24 00:00 |
DaemonFC | they still have 9 more than they need to change Senate rules | Feb 24 00:00 |
schestowitz | imaginary enemies (fictions) are used by those in power to make real evil | Feb 24 00:00 |
DaemonFC | they're either spineless or they don't want the public option either | Feb 24 00:00 |
oiaohm | The regions before islaim that islam is base off says one thing schestowitz. Yet there text trys to say different. | Feb 24 00:00 |
schestowitz | http://rawstory.com/2010/02/wall-street-bonuses-bailouts/ YAY! YAY! | Feb 24 00:01 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Wall Street bonuses jumped 17% after bailouts | Raw Story .::. Size~: 30.21 KB | Feb 24 00:01 |
schestowitz | The economy is booming!! | Feb 24 00:01 |
oiaohm | All of the older regions say saten was the angel of light. | Feb 24 00:01 |
oiaohm | So he is either at the core of the earth. Or in the sun. | Feb 24 00:01 |
oiaohm | Either place I would not want to spend the rest of my days. | Feb 24 00:02 |
schestowitz | "Employment in the securities industry in New York City declined by 31,500 jobs between November 2007 and August 2009, a decline of 16.7 percent. Since then, the industry has added 3,900 jobs through December." | Feb 24 00:02 |
omar_ | DaemonFC, Who told you that Satan was not an angel in Islam? | Feb 24 00:02 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: very true | Feb 24 00:02 |
*omar_ is now known as Omar87 | Feb 24 00:02 | |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: re one feeds the other | Feb 24 00:02 |
schestowitz | http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/in_justice_furor_over_gitmo_appointees_2Yr7Gp8Qh41E4EVWIeAXRP | Feb 24 00:02 |
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FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: we might say , convenient fictions ; plus a 'god' we re-make in whatever image suits the moment | Feb 24 00:03 |
Omar87 | DaemonFC, 'coz that's untrue. He was an angel, but then he refused to prostrate before Adam. | Feb 24 00:03 |
schestowitz | How do I become an ange^H^H^Hacker | Feb 24 00:03 |
DaemonFC | Omar87, Tell that to Wikipedia | Feb 24 00:03 |
Omar87 | DaemonFC, I see. | Feb 24 00:03 |
schestowitz | http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/33320.html | Feb 24 00:04 |
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MinceR | DaemonFC: http://i.imgur.com/RyYXS.jpg | Feb 24 00:04 |
schestowitz | Kucinich challenges Gates on civilians killed in Afghanistan http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5hPWDEeElnd6r2Ah5rpYhbwLThBIA | Feb 24 00:04 |
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FurnaceBoy | Omar87: naturally, i turn to some guy in Indiana for the truth about islam :) | Feb 24 00:04 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @zoobab: Conference in Starsbourg on the UPLS central patent court and software patents via the backdoor: http://i5.be/awe | Feb 24 00:05 | |
Omar87 | DaemonFC, actually, no, I might be wrong. I'm sorry. I just mixed between two things. | Feb 24 00:05 |
schestowitz | McBain actually does something decent?? WT??? http://rawstory.com/2010/02/schwarzenegger-calls-gop-health-care-approach-bogus/ | Feb 24 00:05 |
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FurnaceBoy | they have an approach to health care? | Feb 24 00:06 |
Omar87 | DaemonFC, In Arabic, we refer to the demons in general as "Jinn" meaning "Invisible". | Feb 24 00:06 |
FurnaceBoy | that's like saying microsoft is a company that solves technical problems | Feb 24 00:06 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @zoobab: Conference in Starsbourg on the UPLS central patent court and software patents via the backdoor: http://i5.be/awe | Feb 24 00:06 | |
*schestowitz wants to be invisible | Feb 24 00:06 | |
Omar87 | DaemonFC, good "Jinn", who obey God, are simply called "Jinn" but bad one who disobey him are called "Satans". | Feb 24 00:07 |
schestowitz | http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/palin-obamas-death-panel-could-kill-my-down-syndrome-baby.php?ref=fpblg | Feb 24 00:07 |
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FurnaceBoy | wow | Feb 24 00:07 |
schestowitz | Palin’s grandson uses socialized medicine | Feb 24 00:07 |
FurnaceBoy | that's still going around? | Feb 24 00:07 |
Omar87 | DaemonFC, and there's a big difference between "Jinn" and "Angels". | Feb 24 00:07 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: you know, I have my own death panel appointment next week here in Canada. Wish me luck. | Feb 24 00:07 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: in other news, the state will abort your children | Feb 24 00:07 |
Omar87 | FurnaceBoy, And who would that guy be? | Feb 24 00:08 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: and then God will punish you with future disabled children, according to GO | Feb 24 00:08 |
FurnaceBoy | GOP* | Feb 24 00:08 |
oiaohm | How long before there are a large numbers of death in the USA system due to fake drugs. | Feb 24 00:08 |
schestowitz | http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/R40835.pdf | Feb 24 00:09 |
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oiaohm | Failure to have the medical system under control is a danger to all. | Feb 24 00:09 |
schestowitz | http://www.wlwt.com/news/22600154/detail.html | Feb 24 00:09 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Frustrated Owner Bulldozes Home Ahead Of Foreclosure - Cincinnati News Story - WLWT Cincinnati .::. Size~: 66.76 KB | Feb 24 00:09 |
schestowitz | :-D | Feb 24 00:09 |
schestowitz | Maybe DaemonFC's dad made the bulldozer | Feb 24 00:10 |
DaemonFC | I can only hope | Feb 24 00:10 |
FurnaceBoy | oiaohm: failed state | Feb 24 00:10 |
Omar87 | DaemonFC, actually I'm sorry. I was wrong. | Feb 24 00:11 |
*schestowitz has mild sensation of happiness... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35529967/ns/politics-more_politics/ | Feb 24 00:11 | |
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DaemonFC | schestowitz, I don't blame him | Feb 24 00:11 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: hehehehee | Feb 24 00:11 |
DaemonFC | I might do the same thing | Feb 24 00:11 |
schestowitz | You know what would make the best day ever? | Feb 24 00:11 |
schestowitz | Dick&Rush taking it on the same day. | Feb 24 00:11 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: no | Feb 24 00:12 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: arrested, convicted, jailed | Feb 24 00:12 |
oiaohm | UK is not much better. Possiable fake drugs turned up over there than they don't even have the gear to test if they are fake or not. | Feb 24 00:12 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: *that* is what happens in a perfect world | Feb 24 00:12 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the ordinary criminal system is good enough for that type | Feb 24 00:12 |
Omar87 | DaemonFC, it's true. Satan was not an angel. He only used to worship Allah with them, but he isn't one of them, he's. | Feb 24 00:12 |
schestowitz | Then come the eulogies | Feb 24 00:12 |
schestowitz | "Dick was such a gentleman" | Feb 24 00:12 |
DaemonFC | Omar87, You didn't know that? | Feb 24 00:12 |
schestowitz | And the news anchors say they miss him soooo much | Feb 24 00:12 |
schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrFgX83OsEY | Feb 24 00:13 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] yes, mr #Gehry, yr roof leaks because you designed a surface with local minimum &no drain http://advogato.org/person/federico/diary/189.html | Feb 24 00:13 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Who knew that celebrity was such a poor substitute for design competence. #gehry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stata_Center #architecture | Feb 24 00:14 | |
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Omar87 | DaemonFC, I did. But I made a mistake. That's all. | Feb 24 00:15 |
DaemonFC | 78% of those voting in the poll on that page agree with the guy bulldozing his home to keep the bank from taking it. Including me. | Feb 24 00:16 |
DaemonFC | woohoo | Feb 24 00:16 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @dandart: We don't want companies controlling our own devices! Please share and sign! http://ur1.ca/kw3t #fsf #gnu #ibad #ipay | Feb 24 00:20 | |
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DaemonFC | Doesn't someone have to use one before it endangers our rights? | Feb 24 00:27 |
DaemonFC | I think at this point, the Zune is more of a threat | Feb 24 00:27 |
oiaohm | Xbox360 DaemonFC | Feb 24 00:28 |
MinceR | in a way, every instance of DRM endangers our rights | Feb 24 00:28 |
oiaohm | Is getting users use to the idea of being locked in. | Feb 24 00:28 |
MinceR | and the fact that someone may use it is a danger by itself | Feb 24 00:28 |
oiaohm | Not really. The danger is people losing what DRM restrictions are. ie wake up one day and people believe it normal. | Feb 24 00:31 |
FurnaceBoy | they already think Windows is normal | Feb 24 00:31 |
FurnaceBoy | that perpetual war is normal | Feb 24 00:31 |
FurnaceBoy | etc | Feb 24 00:31 |
MinceR | that's another danger. | Feb 24 00:32 |
MinceR | also, other companies can build it into tablets and say "hey, the hypePad had it too!" | Feb 24 00:32 |
MinceR | and then they can use it for lock-in. | Feb 24 00:32 |
oiaohm | Once it is seen as normal its really hard to reverse. | Feb 24 00:32 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@johnderosa When I've misspelled a word or garbled a sentence in a tweet, I get torn between... // i want a 15-second oopsie edit feature | Feb 24 00:35 | |
DaemonFC | http://autos.aol.com/article/dui-car-wouldnt-start | Feb 24 00:37 |
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DaemonFC | http://blogs.citypages.com/gimmenoise/2010/02/nickelback_lose.php | Feb 24 01:04 |
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DaemonFC | "Even if you take into account the nearly 25,000 Nickelback fans who don't know how to spell the band's name correctly, the pickle is still in the lead:" | Feb 24 01:06 |
DaemonFC | lol | Feb 24 01:06 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@johnderosa I've begged @twitter several times for the "2nd thoughts" short term edit feature, but they just don't listen to me. #ui #ux | Feb 24 01:19 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] This is quite possibly the classiest thread ever seen on 4chan /b/. http://is.gd/92J1s | Feb 24 01:35 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Maybe we should use a #Subversion commit hook that limits commit messages to 140 characters, in homage to @twitter. | Feb 24 01:42 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Rule of thumb: Maybe a commit message is like a subject line or topic, plus relevant pointers to more detail (issue refs). #subversion | Feb 24 01:43 | |
bruce89 | incidentally, GNOME git commit messages should be 72 chars for the first line, and then prose in the next lines | Feb 24 01:49 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] '05 #energy bill..pushed thru Congress by Cheney, exempted oil&NG industries from SafeDrinkingWaterAct/via @tomphilpott http://bit.ly/brkBip | Feb 24 01:52 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] DR THEO COLBORN: Every environmental #law we wrote to protect public #health is ignored/via @tomphilpott http://bit.ly/brkBip #energy #crime | Feb 24 01:57 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@ishtarmuz Obesity Epidemic from Monosodium Glutamate? http://tinyurl.com/yzdb56x /cocktail of factors inc "diet" foods, #HFCS, #Aspartame | Feb 24 01:58 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @ishtarmuz Rupert #Murdoch & Corruption of British & Australian #Media http://tinyurl.com/y8nhxu5 #fox /amazing ppl don't know this stuff | Feb 24 02:04 | |
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FurnaceBoy | bruce89: I am really thinking of the case where there is an issue tracker, and suggesting that the prose belongs in the issue. (to a co-worker) | Feb 24 02:06 |
FurnaceBoy | bruce89: without an issue tracker, i guess the prose would have to go in the commit msg | Feb 24 02:06 |
bruce89 | that's up for debate currently | Feb 24 02:06 |
FurnaceBoy | yeah, this is just my gut feel for the project i work on. | Feb 24 02:07 |
FurnaceBoy | the way tools like trac treat commit msgs as 1-line topics, it's not good to have a lot of text there | Feb 24 02:07 |
FurnaceBoy | easily missed | Feb 24 02:07 |
*FurnaceBoy doesn't use git | Feb 24 02:07 | |
bruce89 | ah | Feb 24 02:07 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Gasland film reveals public #health catastrophe created by the rogue #energy industry /via @tomphilpott http://bit.ly/brkBip #epa #crime | Feb 24 02:12 | |
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FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the bot could suppress repeated mentions | Feb 24 02:12 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: 'twould be a public service | Feb 24 02:12 |
schestowitz | How do you mean...? | Feb 24 02:12 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: check the last 20 lines | Feb 24 02:12 |
schestowitz | Yes, uniques | Feb 24 02:13 |
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FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: sometimes i repeat a link in >1 tweet.. also ppl re-tweet... no need for bot to keep citing | Feb 24 02:13 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @qu1j0t3 RT @ishtarmuz Rupert #Murdoch & Corruption of British & Australian #Media http://tinyurl.com/y8nhxu5 #fox | Feb 24 02:13 | |
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FurnaceBoy | ^^ case in point :) | Feb 24 02:13 |
schestowitz | I still have this baggage of old posts | Feb 24 02:13 |
schestowitz | Need to dispatch some tomorrow | Feb 24 02:13 |
schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/02/22/amazoncom-tops-in-brand-trust-in-us | Feb 24 02:14 |
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schestowitz | I've just had to install proprietary software for work | Feb 24 02:14 |
schestowitz | Adobe Reader | Feb 24 02:14 |
schestowitz | Now let's see if I can remove the blob | Feb 24 02:15 |
schestowitz | I hate this blob | Feb 24 02:16 |
schestowitz | Removing them is not a unified thing | Feb 24 02:16 |
DaemonFC | yum remove | Feb 24 02:16 |
DaemonFC | apt-get remove | Feb 24 02:16 |
DaemonFC | urpme | Feb 24 02:16 |
schestowitz | Their PDF annotation thing is better than Okular's | Feb 24 02:16 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: it was a binayr instalelr | Feb 24 02:16 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, Abiword's PDF export has gotten much better | Feb 24 02:16 |
schestowitz | Well, I can't be bothered now.. | Feb 24 02:16 |
schestowitz | It's for using comments on papers, from colleagues | Feb 24 02:17 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, Those usually have some kind of uninstall script in the binary installer package | Feb 24 02:17 |
schestowitz | Okular had something that stood in my way | Feb 24 02:17 |
schestowitz | roy@roy:~/Desktop$ ./AdbeRdr9.3.1-1_i486linux_enu.bin | Feb 24 02:17 |
schestowitz | Extracting files, please wait. (This may take a while depending on the configuration of your machine) | Feb 24 02:17 |
schestowitz | I don't have the resverse | Feb 24 02:18 |
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schestowitz | > You can, but traditionally you want to wait. People get sued sometimes, | Feb 24 02:19 |
schestowitz | > if you are not careful. | Feb 24 02:19 |
Jose_X | schestowitz, I wanted to point out 2 comments I just made. They appear at the end of http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000002612 | Feb 24 02:19 |
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schestowitz | (from PJ) | Feb 24 02:19 |
schestowitz | About Microsoft's expose by employees | Feb 24 02:19 |
Jose_X | The theme is as follows and leverages comments on that page... | Feb 24 02:20 |
Jose_X | Patents can be over anything. | Feb 24 02:21 |
Jose_X | The USPTO gives obvious patents on almost any combination and allows extreme broadness and vagueness | Feb 24 02:21 |
Jose_X | Each patent is very strong and many patents are very costly to fight in court and means you likely violate somewhere. | Feb 24 02:21 |
Jose_X | So a group gets together and pulls in their patents. Each pays a fee and they resolve to make money off the licensing of new groups. | Feb 24 02:22 |
FurnaceBoy | i don't quite see that inference... | Feb 24 02:22 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Brilliant tab-tab completion idea Seth Nickell #bash http://blogs.gnome.org/seth/2010/02/24/lil-nugget-from-hackfest/ | Feb 24 02:22 | |
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Jose_X | The terms set for new groups will keep favoring more and more those on the inside | Feb 24 02:22 |
FurnaceBoy | pyramid scheme | Feb 24 02:22 |
FurnaceBoy | precisely | Feb 24 02:23 |
Jose_X | ..because as more people join, the patent arsenal used to address new groups is that much more formidable in size. | Feb 24 02:23 |
Jose_X | FurnaceBoy, wait.. | Feb 24 02:23 |
FurnaceBoy | :) | Feb 24 02:23 |
Jose_X | don't give away the punchline | Feb 24 02:23 |
Jose_X | actually, it need not be a pyramid scheme.. i'll get to this in a moment | Feb 24 02:23 |
FurnaceBoy | ok please go on | Feb 24 02:23 |
Jose_X | :-) | Feb 24 02:23 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] The Real Purpose of ACTA - Part Deux http://bit.ly/aRnwM9 | Feb 24 02:24 | |
Jose_X | As time passes, and assuming patents can be taken out on business methods and all sorts of things, we will find that almost anyone will be violating for almost anything they do | Feb 24 02:24 |
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Jose_X | Over time, we also have companies go out of business. | Feb 24 02:24 |
Jose_X | So what we get.. over time.. is that the central surviving group controls more of what anyone can or can't do | Feb 24 02:24 |
Jose_X | So new players don't become "full licensees". | Feb 24 02:25 |
Jose_X | Rather the price will have gone up so much over time and the number of restricted things will have gone up so much | Feb 24 02:25 |
Jose_X | that this central group effectively manages a list of things people and businesses can or can't do | Feb 24 02:25 |
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Jose_X | and for those things they can do | Feb 24 02:25 |
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Jose_X | the tax rate is determined | Feb 24 02:26 |
Jose_X | ..ok, applause, laughter.. punchline was reached | Feb 24 02:26 |
Jose_X | .... | Feb 24 02:26 |
Jose_X | still nothing but crickets...... | Feb 24 02:26 |
Jose_X | still nothing but crickets...... | Feb 24 02:26 |
Jose_X | FurnaceBoy misses cue... | Feb 24 02:27 |
*FurnaceBoy chirrups | Feb 24 02:27 | |
Jose_X | Jose_X leaves stage and goes home. | Feb 24 02:27 |
*FurnaceBoy reads back | Feb 24 02:27 | |
Jose_X | how do you put obscene finger gestures in irc language? | Feb 24 02:27 |
FurnaceBoy | Jose_X: yes. | Feb 24 02:27 |
FurnaceBoy | Jose_X: it's a totalitarian scheme | Feb 24 02:27 |
Jose_X | made legal by us | Feb 24 02:28 |
Jose_X | by our support of the USPTO | Feb 24 02:28 |
FurnaceBoy | Jose_X: I don't disagree. And while creeping towards control, they profit all the while. | Feb 24 02:28 |
schestowitz | Jose_X: very true | Feb 24 02:28 |
FurnaceBoy | Jose_X: typical chess move by the cabal | Feb 24 02:28 |
Jose_X | legally and with our assumed consent | Feb 24 02:28 |
Jose_X | Typical Bill Gates | Feb 24 02:28 |
FurnaceBoy | Jose_X: yes. however we should qualify "legally"... these kind of ppl don't need to follow the law (viz Gates) | Feb 24 02:28 |
schestowitz | IV was his idea | Feb 24 02:28 |
FurnaceBoy | yes | Feb 24 02:28 |
schestowitz | And Nathan's | Feb 24 02:28 |
schestowitz | They spoke about it | Feb 24 02:28 |
FurnaceBoy | a pinoff | Feb 24 02:28 |
FurnaceBoy | spinoff* | Feb 24 02:28 |
schestowitz | I can find the article | Feb 24 02:28 |
schestowitz | They "came up" with the idea | Feb 24 02:29 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: of course, they are close buddies | Feb 24 02:29 |
schestowitz | Because they saw patents | Feb 24 02:29 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Myhrvold left decades ago, 1983? | Feb 24 02:29 |
schestowitz | Then Nathan left and started his mafia | Feb 24 02:29 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: an early spinoff of MS | Feb 24 02:29 |
schestowitz | Bill Gates gave him money | Feb 24 02:29 |
FurnaceBoy | right | Feb 24 02:29 |
schestowitz | Microsoft to... BILLIONS | Feb 24 02:29 |
schestowitz | IIRC 5 billion | Feb 24 02:29 |
schestowitz | Is hub still developing? http://www.figuiere.net/hub/blog/?2010/02/20/699-aquabus just photos in his blog recently | Feb 24 02:29 |
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schestowitz | Microsoft was never a softare company | Feb 24 02:29 |
schestowitz | It's a rich kid taking code from a garbage can | Feb 24 02:29 |
schestowitz | He wanted to get richer | Feb 24 02:30 |
schestowitz | To make poppa porud | Feb 24 02:30 |
schestowitz | So he found something to exploit | Feb 24 02:30 |
FurnaceBoy | +1 | Feb 24 02:30 |
schestowitz | Gates has his patent troll firm too | Feb 24 02:30 |
schestowitz | Searete LLC IIRC | Feb 24 02:30 |
schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php/Searete | Feb 24 02:31 |
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FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: he suffers from some psychosis - megalomania, sociopathy, probably a whole cocktail of stuff. dangerous individual. | Feb 24 02:31 |
schestowitz | Yes | Feb 24 02:31 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's not all just 'pleasing daddy'.. he's psychotic | Feb 24 02:31 |
FurnaceBoy | like a cheney, just another flavour | Feb 24 02:31 |
FurnaceBoy | ruling class, if they aren't born insane, they die insane | Feb 24 02:32 |
schestowitz | http://lesfemmes-thetruth.blogspot.com/ | Feb 24 02:32 |
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FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: ^^ bot has this bug too. | Feb 24 02:33 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: too-short timeout? | Feb 24 02:33 |
schestowitz | http://gateskeepers.civiblog.org/blog/_archives/2010/2/19/4459848.html | Feb 24 02:33 |
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schestowitz | " In exchange for perpetuating this glorious deception and maintaining a silence on the Gates/Buffett world-wide killing machine, CRS has received in excess of $40 million for global and agricultural development and financial services for the poor from 2003 to 2009. Compared to the billions Bill and Melinda Gates and Warren Buffett and his family spend on their true passion – baby killing and. population control – it’s a drop | Feb 24 02:34 |
schestowitz | in the bucket, of course, but I’m sure they consider their money well spent. In reviewing the anti-life record of the Gateses and Buffetts, one they have successfully keep out of the public eye, thanks to organizations like CRS." | Feb 24 02:34 |
schestowitz | http://gateskeepers.civiblog.org/blog/_archives/2010/2/22/4463144.html "Remember "640k ought to be enough for everybody"? Now he is predicting in the field of energy. " | Feb 24 02:35 |
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FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i have a feeling that writer and I wouldn't see eye to eye on certain topics ;-) | Feb 24 02:36 |
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schestowitz | "Talking About Energy at TED"Bill Gates unveils his vision for the world's energy future, describing the need for 'miracles' to avoid planetary catastrophe and explaining why he's backing a dramatically different type of nuclear reactor. The necessary goal? Zero carbon emissions globally by 2050." Others, however, reckon no breakthroughs are needed. " | Feb 24 02:36 |
schestowitz | Yes, MIRACLES | Feb 24 02:36 |
schestowitz | Let's wait for MIRACLES | Feb 24 02:36 |
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schestowitz | In 40 years | Feb 24 02:36 |
schestowitz | When he's dead | Feb 24 02:36 |
DaemonFC | or a cyborg | Feb 24 02:37 |
schestowitz | Energy expert | Feb 24 02:37 |
schestowitz | formerly harvard law student dumpster diving for code | Feb 24 02:37 |
schestowitz | Recently he has also been an ecnomist | Feb 24 02:37 |
schestowitz | Papers came to /him/ for insight about the aconomy | Feb 24 02:37 |
schestowitz | Move over, Liz Warren... | Feb 24 02:38 |
schestowitz | "We have someone riche^H^H^Hmarter than you" | Feb 24 02:38 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i still can't logically take in Gates talking about innovation. it's like hearing Yoko Ono talking about lethal rounds | Feb 24 02:38 |
FurnaceBoy | or something. | Feb 24 02:39 |
FurnaceBoy | just makes my head spin | Feb 24 02:39 |
FurnaceBoy | the least original guy on the planet. | Feb 24 02:39 |
FurnaceBoy | except in the area of scaling criminal organisations | Feb 24 02:39 |
FurnaceBoy | "Wanna go supra-national? Call Billy." | Feb 24 02:39 |
schestowitz | Oh........ | Feb 24 02:39 |
schestowitz | What have we here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/18/AR2010021802919.html | Feb 24 02:39 |
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FurnaceBoy | oh boy. | Feb 24 02:40 |
schestowitz | Melinda writes for the paper where she works on the board | Feb 24 02:40 |
schestowitz | Advertising her little scam | Feb 24 02:40 |
FurnaceBoy | this is astonishing | Feb 24 02:40 |
FurnaceBoy | the chutzpah | Feb 24 02:40 |
schestowitz | She needs to ensure the husband remains minister of education | Feb 24 02:41 |
Jose_X | abandon all of these existing companies and ideas and put your money in these little revolutionary private companies I'm taking public. | Feb 24 02:42 |
schestowitz | http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/cheney_torture/ | Feb 24 02:42 |
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schestowitz | Jose_X: IV? | Feb 24 02:43 |
Jose_X | Bill Gates talking about new type of reactor and this and that | Feb 24 02:44 |
schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/21/italy-sex-bribes-berlusconi-elections | Feb 24 02:44 |
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FurnaceBoy | he talks it up, ... this is the "free market" everyone's talking about. | Feb 24 02:44 |
schestowitz | Jose_X: yes, he has investments | Feb 24 02:44 |
FurnaceBoy | free and untarnished | Feb 24 02:44 |
FurnaceBoy | democratic, egalitarian, fair, meritocratic | Feb 24 02:44 |
FurnaceBoy | and I am Coco Chanel. | Feb 24 02:44 |
schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2010/02/22/bill-gates-and-exxon/ | Feb 24 02:44 |
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schestowitz | Global warming can wait another 40 years, says Pearly | Feb 24 02:44 |
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Jose_X | Taking a company public makes people rich.. Bill can use the nonprofit foundry to seed many companies and have these seeds multiply many times | Feb 24 02:45 |
schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/21/fears-iraq-poll-boycott-sunni | Feb 24 02:45 |
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Jose_X | ...if people like and believe in Bill of course | Feb 24 02:46 |
schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/22/nato-airstrike-deaths | Feb 24 02:46 |
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schestowitz | Jose_X: he has PR for that | Feb 24 02:46 |
schestowitz | a LOT of PR | Feb 24 02:46 |
schestowitz | Since the 80s | Feb 24 02:46 |
schestowitz | He has always loved it | Feb 24 02:46 |
schestowitz | I have a book I read about it | Feb 24 02:46 |
schestowitz | From the daughter of their PR director or whatever | Feb 24 02:46 |
Jose_X | PR into $$$ | Feb 24 02:46 |
schestowitz | He only cared about him image | Feb 24 02:46 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: why would anyone be angry about being killed by Americans? it's an honour. | Feb 24 02:46 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: God has chosen | Feb 24 02:46 |
schestowitz | In BN i posted some excerpts | Feb 24 02:47 |
schestowitz | In memos he talks about "Evangelisation" | Feb 24 02:47 |
Jose_X | When people decide to pay 20 times earnings, they are helping Gates cash out of his investment several times wealthier | Feb 24 02:47 |
schestowitz | So that he can wake up in the morning roaring "people love me!" | Feb 24 02:47 |
FurnaceBoy | Jose_X: precisely | Feb 24 02:47 |
schestowitz | It's like those days of robber barons | Feb 24 02:47 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: hmm "Magnolia"? | Feb 24 02:47 |
schestowitz | PR scares me | Feb 24 02:47 |
schestowitz | It cahn turn monsters like serial murders to heroes | Feb 24 02:48 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Cruise and Messiah complex | Feb 24 02:48 |
schestowitz | Like Alexander th Grear | Feb 24 02:48 |
schestowitz | What did he do anyway | Feb 24 02:48 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: maybe Gates has this messianic problem | Feb 24 02:48 |
schestowitz | he slaughters maybe millions of people, civilians too | Feb 24 02:48 |
Jose_X | schestowitz, people will question what you mean when you say "he slaughters maybe millions of people" | Feb 24 02:49 |
schestowitz | http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/money/consumer_affairs/article7033563.ece | Feb 24 02:49 |
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schestowitz | Jose_X: Alexander the Great | Feb 24 02:49 |
Jose_X | never mind.. i see you were talking about Alexander (Schestowitz) | Feb 24 02:49 |
schestowitz | Darius too | Feb 24 02:49 |
schestowitz | Many of those so-called heroes | Feb 24 02:50 |
schestowitz | I think that only Genghis Kahn is portrayed negatively | Feb 24 02:50 |
schestowitz | But I'm not sure he did much differentluy | Feb 24 02:50 |
schestowitz | He just wasn't EUropean | Feb 24 02:50 |
schestowitz | And he enjoyed seeing the suffering | Feb 24 02:50 |
schestowitz | Which I doubt others like Alexander didn't... | Feb 24 02:50 |
DaemonFC | http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=158328 | Feb 24 02:52 |
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DaemonFC | 2.6.32.9 is building | Feb 24 02:52 |
schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/20100218/1045238227.shtml | Feb 24 02:53 |
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schestowitz | Hahaha: http://techdirt.com/articles/20100222/0334278250.shtml | Feb 24 02:55 |
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DaemonFC | schestowitz, And what's wrong with Fedora? | Feb 24 02:57 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: touchy! | Feb 24 02:57 |
schestowitz | http://freakbits.com/88-year-old-avatar-pirate-caught-in-theater-0220 | Feb 24 02:57 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: 88-Year Old Avatar Pirate Caught in Theater | FreakBits .::. Size~: 35.22 KB | Feb 24 02:57 |
schestowitz | arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr........ pirates that old? | Feb 24 02:57 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: nothing is wrong with it | Feb 24 02:58 |
schestowitz | I just imagine you as a ubuntows person | Feb 24 02:58 |
DaemonFC | arrrrgh!!!! Me hip needs reaplacin!! | Feb 24 02:58 |
DaemonFC | hehe | Feb 24 02:58 |
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schestowitz | "......so this 88-Year Old walks into the cinema........" | Feb 24 02:58 |
FurnaceBoy | i didn't rtfm, but isn't it likely somebody put him up to it? | Feb 24 02:59 |
schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/20100222/0045148246.shtml | Feb 24 02:59 |
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FurnaceBoy | "here old man, want to earn some beer money? point this at the screen the whole time and we'll meet you down the pub later and pick it up, with your fiver." | Feb 24 02:59 |
schestowitz | " | Feb 24 03:00 |
schestowitz | Now, for any compassionate human being, this is a tale of sweetness. What a thoughtful thing this guy wanted to do for his wife. | Feb 24 03:00 |
schestowitz | But the industry doesn't see it that way. To them, it's still "piracy" and a problem. To be honest, if the movie industry stopped with its silly "windowing" concept, this wouldn't have been a problem at all. | Feb 24 03:00 |
schestowitz | " | Feb 24 03:00 |
schestowitz | ROTL http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/02/22/red-bull-verizon-tweets-run-afoul-of-olympics-rules/?mod=wsj_share_twitter | Feb 24 03:00 |
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schestowitz | *FL | Feb 24 03:00 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, I usually just sneak into the movies | Feb 24 03:00 |
DaemonFC | watch everything there | Feb 24 03:01 |
DaemonFC | sneak back out | Feb 24 03:01 |
schestowitz | "I am man!! I gota EYES!" | Feb 24 03:01 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: do you carry a gun on these trips? | Feb 24 03:01 |
schestowitz | "You exceeded your photon quotient, young man!!" | Feb 24 03:01 |
DaemonFC | that's how I saw Avatar, I just sneaked in | Feb 24 03:01 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: and s soda | Feb 24 03:02 |
DaemonFC | FurnaceBoy, I usually have it on me | Feb 24 03:02 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: "I'll have popcorn... and 50 rounds armor piercing.. ta" | Feb 24 03:02 |
schestowitz | Indiana Jones | Feb 24 03:02 |
DaemonFC | the only time I don't is when I'm walking into a government building of some kind | Feb 24 03:02 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: isn't that when it's most useful? | Feb 24 03:02 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: have you built a Joe Stack shrine yet? | Feb 24 03:03 |
DaemonFC | well, I'd really hate to get on the losing end of a confrontation with an armed high school dropout who went on to become a sheriffs deputy | Feb 24 03:03 |
FurnaceBoy | really? but you have a gun... what's the diff between that and a match between {random civilian who pisses me off} | Feb 24 03:03 |
DaemonFC | The law doesn't say I can shoot someone that pisses me off | Feb 24 03:04 |
FurnaceBoy | given that so many of your fellow citizens think like you, they'll be righteouslyu armed too. | Feb 24 03:04 |
DaemonFC | it says I can defend myself from credible threats of harm | Feb 24 03:04 |
FurnaceBoy | isn't a cop trying to shoot you a threat of harm? | Feb 24 03:04 |
DaemonFC | that's different | Feb 24 03:05 |
FurnaceBoy | why? | Feb 24 03:05 |
DaemonFC | ever tried contesting a speeding ticket? | Feb 24 03:05 |
FurnaceBoy | what if the cop is wrong! | Feb 24 03:05 |
DaemonFC | same thing only now he just shot you | Feb 24 03:05 |
FurnaceBoy | he doesn't know that you're an honest guy. | Feb 24 03:05 |
FurnaceBoy | a stand-up, straight-shootin guy | Feb 24 03:05 |
DaemonFC | when you get into court, the cop is right | Feb 24 03:05 |
FurnaceBoy | he might mistake you for a baddie | Feb 24 03:05 |
FurnaceBoy | and aims at you | Feb 24 03:05 |
DaemonFC | no matter what the cop says he's right | Feb 24 03:05 |
DaemonFC | even if he's wrong, he's right | Feb 24 03:05 |
FurnaceBoy | is that when you throw the gun down? when the cop draws a bead? | Feb 24 03:06 |
FurnaceBoy | so party's over | Feb 24 03:06 |
DaemonFC | unless you have a lot of credible witnesses to attest to the fact that the cop was being unreasonable when he shot you | Feb 24 03:06 |
DaemonFC | he was well within his rights | Feb 24 03:06 |
FurnaceBoy | he might just aim | Feb 24 03:06 |
FurnaceBoy | then what do you do | Feb 24 03:06 |
FurnaceBoy | since you *know* by definition you're in the right, cuz you're you | Feb 24 03:07 |
DaemonFC | those campus cops that tasered that guy in front of a library full of people didn't get in trouble because they tasered him inappropriately | Feb 24 03:07 |
FurnaceBoy | so a gun isn't very useful, is it. | Feb 24 03:07 |
DaemonFC | they got in trouble cause too many people saw what really happened | Feb 24 03:08 |
FurnaceBoy | faint sign of authority you have to put it down. | Feb 24 03:08 |
FurnaceBoy | it's only useful when there are no cops around, right? | Feb 24 03:08 |
DaemonFC | the police don't tend to be around when things are happening to you | Feb 24 03:08 |
DaemonFC | they tend to be around to harass you when you WERE having a nice day | Feb 24 03:09 |
FurnaceBoy | what if they're happening to someone else, like the guy you're pointing the gun at | Feb 24 03:09 |
FurnaceBoy | should the cops be called? | Feb 24 03:09 |
FurnaceBoy | or only if somebody out-guns YOU | Feb 24 03:09 |
DaemonFC | if I'm pointing a gun at someone, it's for good reason | Feb 24 03:09 |
DaemonFC | so call the cops | Feb 24 03:09 |
FurnaceBoy | HAHAH! | Feb 24 03:09 |
FurnaceBoy | that's what everyone around you thinks, too, you know that? | Feb 24 03:10 |
FurnaceBoy | everybody around you will give the same rationale. | Feb 24 03:10 |
FurnaceBoy | "I'm ok-- it's the other guy who's dangerous." | Feb 24 03:10 |
FurnaceBoy | all your packing neighbours think like you. | Feb 24 03:10 |
FurnaceBoy | which of them is dangerous, and which isn't? | Feb 24 03:10 |
DaemonFC | FurnaceBoy, http://community.netflix.com/video/good-badim-the-guy-with-the | Feb 24 03:11 |
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FurnaceBoy | exactly. | Feb 24 03:11 |
FurnaceBoy | might is right. | Feb 24 03:11 |
FurnaceBoy | perhaps the most pure lesson of America | Feb 24 03:11 |
schestowitz | America? | Feb 24 03:12 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: you know what I mean :) | Feb 24 03:12 |
schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8531266.stm | Feb 24 03:12 |
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FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: relative from where yuo are, close enough :) | Feb 24 03:12 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: besides, Canada is tarnished like hell now | Feb 24 03:12 |
DaemonFC | haha | Feb 24 03:12 |
schestowitz | I correct people who say "America" here | Feb 24 03:12 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yes, rightly so | Feb 24 03:12 |
schestowitz | Unless they mean the continent | Feb 24 03:12 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: sloppy | Feb 24 03:13 |
schestowitz | It's a little offensive, the Monroe doctrine | Feb 24 03:13 |
schestowitz | 1904 iirc | Feb 24 03:13 |
DaemonFC | I'm not worried about offending people. | Feb 24 03:13 |
DaemonFC | You know why? | Feb 24 03:13 |
schestowitz | We know | Feb 24 03:13 |
DaemonFC | They're not worried about offending me. | Feb 24 03:13 |
schestowitz | And you have a pistol | Feb 24 03:14 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: all i need to do is hold a gun and i'm automatically right. | Feb 24 03:14 |
DaemonFC | oh, they can call me every name in the book, but when I open up on them it's like "ZOMG!!!!!!!' | Feb 24 03:14 |
schestowitz | And an army bigger budget-wise than the whole world combined (excepting US) | Feb 24 03:14 |
schestowitz | Fool. | Feb 24 03:14 |
*FurnaceBoy ran out of red wine | Feb 24 03:14 | |
schestowitz | Arrogance comes around @ ya | Feb 24 03:14 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: maybe they ran ut | Feb 24 03:15 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Hubris | Feb 24 03:15 |
schestowitz | Spilling French wine in the streets to make a statement that there are WoMD | Feb 24 03:15 |
schestowitz | WHo's the fool now? | Feb 24 03:15 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: no they didn't, the LCBO is very well stocked with great wine, reasonable prices, and good service. that's our govt for you | Feb 24 03:15 |
schestowitz | DaemonFOX: are you off cigs now? | Feb 24 03:16 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: however, i walked right past it and didn't remember to re-stock. dumb. | Feb 24 03:16 |
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DaemonFC | schestowitz, Have been for a while | Feb 24 03:19 |
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FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: you shoot people for calling you names? | Feb 24 03:24 |
schestowitz | Waste of bullets? | Feb 24 03:26 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: apparently leaving them unfired is waste ... have to stimulate the economy by increasing the turnover of bullets and caskets | Feb 24 03:27 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: patriotic dyootay | Feb 24 03:27 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: and by purifying the pool of "ppl who disagree with me" i am exercising natural selection! and not at all in a Stalinist way! | Feb 24 03:28 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Peak oil imminent http://peakwatch.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83452403c69e20120a7c41d72970b-pi | Feb 24 03:28 | |
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FurnaceBoy | rnb: are you even awake?? | Feb 24 03:28 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: heh. | Feb 24 03:28 |
schestowitz | DaemonFOX is like this guy...... | Feb 24 03:28 |
schestowitz | Hold on.... | Feb 24 03:28 |
FurnaceBoy | rnb: i wanna talk to you about work I know of in SP... | Feb 24 03:29 |
schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGscnCn9fNY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIKUWgsIncg | Feb 24 03:29 |
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schestowitz | DaemonFOX is the one who kills straight people. :-| | Feb 24 03:30 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i'm not sure he would make that determination before shooting | Feb 24 03:31 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: whatever he decides is right | Feb 24 03:31 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: by definition | Feb 24 03:32 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: he can even say God made him do it | Feb 24 03:32 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: can't prove he didn't! | Feb 24 03:32 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Mexicans are the disease, and DaemonFC is teh Cure! | Feb 24 03:32 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, On one of those low budget crapfests that MST3K was so righteously lampooning, the sheriff chasing the guy was like "Suspect is HOMOcidal!" and then it goes back to the guy the sheriff is chasing and Crowe shouts "NO, I'm heterocidal!!!!" | Feb 24 03:34 |
DaemonFC | :D | Feb 24 03:34 |
DaemonFC | FurnaceBoy, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Final_Sacrifice | Feb 24 03:37 |
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DaemonFC | Is that a result of Canadian Content laws? | Feb 24 03:38 |
DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4L2lwQiAkA&feature=related | Feb 24 03:38 |
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schestowitz | Zdnet news gets the new late....... http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/software/0,39044164,62061348,00.htm?scid=rss_z_nw | Feb 24 03:41 |
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schestowitz | DaemonFOX: weird vid | Feb 24 03:41 |
schestowitz | I couldn't watch it | Feb 24 03:41 |
DaemonFC | TV executive says "Great job guys!, It only cost us $1500 in monopoly money and it keeps the government off my ass" | Feb 24 03:41 |
schestowitz | It's lame | Feb 24 03:41 |
schestowitz | l8r, gn | Feb 24 03:41 |
DaemonFC | "Give yourselves a promotion!" | Feb 24 03:41 |
DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxHCsFmwubs | Feb 24 03:42 |
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DaemonFC | That's how you know it was filmed in Alberta | Feb 24 03:42 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] "One man’s common sense is another’s impossible task" http://bit.ly/d4P3C2 #gnome | Feb 24 03:47 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Sorry dudes, there's no original thought in the new #gnome control center. http://live.gnome.org/UsabilityProject/Whiteboard/ControlCenter | Feb 24 03:48 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] (The #gnome drafts are even more ludicrously faithful copies of #Apple's System Prefs. Stop futzing with #icons and dig deeper) | Feb 24 03:49 | |
fewa | Vernor goes to court of appeals - http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2010/02/11 | Feb 24 03:50 |
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FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: nite | Feb 24 03:51 |
fewa | also notice http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._Federal_Election_Commission | Feb 24 03:52 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT via @mparent77772 #Europe has insufficient lust for #War, claims #USA http://nyti.ms/apnxYd | Feb 24 03:57 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Rocking The Opportunistic Desktop - a fun few weeks of content to get started making awesome apps - http://is.gd/93eDY #ubuntu | Feb 24 04:19 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Don't forget folks, want to get cracking making fun apps - join #ubuntu-app-devel on Freenode. :-) #ubuntu | Feb 24 04:20 | |
DaemonFC | jono, Mono apps? | Feb 24 04:22 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] CIS view : Arguments Against Software Patents http://post.ly/PJMv | Feb 24 04:22 | |
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DaemonFC | delicious patent encumbered nonfree crap | Feb 24 04:22 |
DaemonFC | doesn't Ubuntu encourage enough of this? | Feb 24 04:22 |
jono | DaemonFC, lol | Feb 24 04:22 |
jono | read the blog entry, all python all the way :) | Feb 24 04:23 |
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fewa | http://www.nytimes-se.com/ | Feb 24 04:23 |
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fewa | o wait its replaying it? | Feb 24 04:23 |
fewa | thats some good news schestowitz :P | Feb 24 04:23 |
fewa | http://www.nytimes-se.com/video | Feb 24 04:23 |
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DaemonFC | jono, I'm still waiting for your new web browser\ | Feb 24 04:24 |
jono | DaemonFC, new web browser? | Feb 24 04:24 |
DaemonFC | Mono frontend, GtkWebkit, and only allows you to use Yahoo search | Feb 24 04:24 |
jono | DaemonFC, lol, riiiight | Feb 24 04:25 |
jono | thanks for your contribution to free software | Feb 24 04:25 |
jono | :) | Feb 24 04:25 |
DaemonFC | you can sell an advertisement panel in it if you get bored | Feb 24 04:25 |
jono | I find that trolling people always helps the cause :) | Feb 24 04:25 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Installing Lucid on a System76 Lemur - http://is.gd/93g3b - sweet, sweet, machine. :-) #ubuntu #system76 | Feb 24 04:26 | |
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Agent-Smith | GN folks | Feb 24 04:29 |
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Agent-Smith | Saw an article on H online... | Feb 24 04:30 |
Agent-Smith | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Sold-out-Microsoft-s-Linux-business-is-booming-922676.html | Feb 24 04:30 |
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Agent-Smith | Did you see that ??? | Feb 24 04:31 |
fewa | Agent-Smith, thats the majority of "news" in the world | Feb 24 04:31 |
Agent-Smith | WTF ?!?!? Third place in Linux vendors is M$ ??? | Feb 24 04:32 |
Agent-Smith | Where the world is going to ??? | Feb 24 04:32 |
fewa | its circular deals Agent-Smith | Feb 24 04:32 |
fewa | numbers on paper | Feb 24 04:32 |
Agent-Smith | Hummmm, even so, M$ is stretching too much its tentacles on the Linux/Open Source turf... | Feb 24 04:33 |
Agent-Smith | Frightens me what they'll do next. And possibly disrupt the Floss movement... | Feb 24 04:34 |
fewa | don't get so worked up | Feb 24 04:35 |
fewa | the key to fighting back is to help people understand what software libre is | Feb 24 04:35 |
fewa | because that cannot be faked | Feb 24 04:35 |
Agent-Smith | Even so, the laws could forbid us to use FLOSS in the future | Feb 24 04:36 |
Agent-Smith | And, as M$ pulls the strings on politicians | Feb 24 04:36 |
fewa | and such laws would be unenforcable, considering how much FLOSS is already deployeed | Feb 24 04:36 |
fewa | in super important applications | Feb 24 04:36 |
fewa | I feel you are a troll Agent-Smith | Feb 24 04:37 |
Agent-Smith | Your feelings are wrong | Feb 24 04:37 |
Agent-Smith | I'm concerned with the state of things | Feb 24 04:37 |
Agent-Smith | BTW | Feb 24 04:37 |
Agent-Smith | I've never saw you around | Feb 24 04:37 |
fewa | I think Google is a much bigger threat | Feb 24 04:37 |
fewa | I use to be here alot | Feb 24 04:37 |
fewa | look at the archives | Feb 24 04:37 |
Agent-Smith | Well, i drop by sometimes | Feb 24 04:38 |
Agent-Smith | Google is no saint either | Feb 24 04:38 |
fewa | http://www.paulgraham.com/microsoft.html | Feb 24 04:38 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft is Dead .::. Size~: 16 KB | Feb 24 04:38 |
Agent-Smith | But M$ is the worst of the bunch | Feb 24 04:38 |
Agent-Smith | Crapple is dangerous too | Feb 24 04:38 |
fewa | yes | Feb 24 04:39 |
Agent-Smith | Even Nokia is a disoriented rabid dog... | Feb 24 04:39 |
fewa | especially how they corrupt FLOSS and lower expectations of autonomy | Feb 24 04:39 |
Agent-Smith | Yup | Feb 24 04:39 |
Agent-Smith | The way they put DRM into floss | Feb 24 04:39 |
fewa | MS never did that so successfully as apple | Feb 24 04:39 |
Agent-Smith | This is frightening | Feb 24 04:39 |
fewa | MS actually looks civil in comparison | Feb 24 04:40 |
Agent-Smith | BTW, i'm from the Sidux Commmunity Brazil | Feb 24 04:40 |
Agent-Smith | http://sidux.forumdebian.com.br/ | Feb 24 04:40 |
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Agent-Smith | Drop by | Feb 24 04:41 |
Agent-Smith | You are welcome | Feb 24 04:41 |
Agent-Smith | With Ubuntu slowly going... Nowhere, i think, community distros may be the answer... | Feb 24 04:42 |
Agent-Smith | But they don't have the appeal Ubuntu has... | Feb 24 04:42 |
Agent-Smith | To the largers masses... | Feb 24 04:42 |
fewa | Debian | Feb 24 04:42 |
fewa | moving to time-based release | Feb 24 04:43 |
fewa | needs a more inclusive standard desktop | Feb 24 04:43 |
fewa | and a installable live CD | Feb 24 04:43 |
fewa | IMHO | Feb 24 04:43 |
Agent-Smith | Well, i did not think that was bad. Time based releases are an improvement, i think | Feb 24 04:44 |
Agent-Smith | Well, well... I really panicked when i read that article | Feb 24 04:45 |
fewa | that was the point of the writer | Feb 24 04:45 |
fewa | IMHO the text on such things is "Manufacturing Consent" by Noam Chomsky | Feb 24 04:46 |
Agent-Smith | He got what he wanted... And i guess not only from me... | Feb 24 04:46 |
fewa | http://blog.worldlabel.com/2009/brazilian-president-lula-da-silva-brings-attention-to-free-software.html | Feb 24 04:46 |
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Agent-Smith | Hummm... Our government here is complicated | Feb 24 04:47 |
Agent-Smith | They could rid the public administration from M$ if they wanted to. | Feb 24 04:48 |
Agent-Smith | You know, there's more marketing than real efforts... | Feb 24 04:48 |
Agent-Smith | Marketing stunts, as they say... | Feb 24 04:49 |
Agent-Smith | PR stunts too... | Feb 24 04:50 |
fewa | http://lwn.net/Articles/90428/ | Feb 24 04:50 |
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fewa | http://lwn.net/Articles/90619/ | Feb 24 04:51 |
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Agent-Smith | Ohhh, yeah, that really happened | Feb 24 04:51 |
Agent-Smith | The man called Bill G a drug dealer | Feb 24 04:51 |
fewa | and he called himself it... | Feb 24 04:51 |
fewa | during the dot com boom | Feb 24 04:52 |
Agent-Smith | I remember to read the Comes Vs M$ documents | Feb 24 04:52 |
Agent-Smith | And he says | Feb 24 04:52 |
Agent-Smith | He wants people to get addicted to winblow$ | Feb 24 04:53 |
fewa | http://www.ecis.eu/documents/Finalversion_Consumerchoicepaper.pdf | Feb 24 04:53 |
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Agent-Smith | So they can charge them someday in the future... | Feb 24 04:53 |
fewa | thats the best and most concise document of MS crimes | Feb 24 04:53 |
fewa | to save people's time | Feb 24 04:53 |
Agent-Smith | Let me see... | Feb 24 04:53 |
Agent-Smith | Ahhh | Feb 24 04:55 |
Agent-Smith | An interesting link | Feb 24 04:55 |
Agent-Smith | http://www.aaxnet.com/topics/msinc.html#index | Feb 24 04:55 |
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Agent-Smith | A chronological list of M$ abuses on other companies | Feb 24 04:56 |
fewa | The one I posted is just so well written | Feb 24 04:56 |
fewa | and accessable to a non-technical audience | Feb 24 04:56 |
Agent-Smith | I'll take a look | Feb 24 04:57 |
fewa | I've read alot of stuff, comes, us v Microsoft, the disposition of gates from that, etc. But that document stands out | Feb 24 04:58 |
Agent-Smith | Who wrote that document ??? | Feb 24 05:04 |
fewa | European Committee for Interoperable Systems | Feb 24 05:06 |
fewa | http://ecis.eu/ | Feb 24 05:06 |
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Agent-Smith | Ahhh... | Feb 24 05:06 |
Agent-Smith | Well, i'll read it carefully. But somethings slipped... | Feb 24 05:07 |
Agent-Smith | Stac... | Feb 24 05:08 |
Agent-Smith | The Hijack of CP/M-86 | Feb 24 05:08 |
Agent-Smith | And rebrand as MS DOS... | Feb 24 05:08 |
fewa | if its not a monopoly abuse its not in there | Feb 24 05:09 |
Agent-Smith | Ahhh, sure, M$ has many frightening stories. Not all related to monopoly... | Feb 24 05:10 |
Agent-Smith | Well, thanks for the document | Feb 24 05:10 |
Agent-Smith | I am calling it a night | Feb 24 05:10 |
Agent-Smith | Folks | Feb 24 05:10 |
Agent-Smith | Good night to all | Feb 24 05:11 |
fewa | gn | Feb 24 05:11 |
Agent-Smith | Cya around | Feb 24 05:11 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Need more guitar. Too much computer. | Feb 24 05:54 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] When using open source makes you an enemy of the state | Technology | guardian.co.uk http://tinyurl.com/y9dy9e6 | Feb 24 05:59 | |
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DaemonFC | :) | Feb 24 06:06 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] the fun and games of snow, you'd think it was winter or something lol | Feb 24 06:10 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] I just noticed, I'm already pretty much used to the 92% size keyboard on the netbook, my typing is pretty much as fast & accurate as before | Feb 24 06:21 | |
DaemonFC | http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/21/us/21cameras.html?_r=1 | Feb 24 06:29 |
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ThistleWind | schestowitz: you have to che3ck out this weeks ep of tech weekly, the zoomer at the endabout how free culture has been a complete failure | Feb 24 06:48 |
ThistleWind | http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/audio/2010/feb/23/jaron-lanier-charitable-web | Feb 24 06:48 |
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ThistleWind | he's completely clueless | Feb 24 06:48 |
ThistleWind | added to an article about how free software should be treated as piracy.....seems the gaurdian are on a pay day from the copyright cartell | Feb 24 06:49 |
ThistleWind | it's the jaron lanier interview at the end | Feb 24 06:50 |
DaemonFC | where did they say that? | Feb 24 06:50 |
ThistleWind | listen to the episode, it starts about 20mins in | Feb 24 06:51 |
ThistleWind | he's the last segment | Feb 24 06:51 |
ThistleWind | it's an all out dissing of EVERYTHING around crowd sourcing, free software, free media etc | Feb 24 06:51 |
ThistleWind | anything created by "the people" basicly | Feb 24 06:52 |
DaemonFC | he's talking about musicians | Feb 24 06:52 |
ThistleWind | no, listen to it | Feb 24 06:52 |
ThistleWind | in part it's about music, but only in part | Feb 24 06:52 |
DaemonFC | Digital Maoists? | Feb 24 06:54 |
DaemonFC | ugggh | Feb 24 06:54 |
ThistleWind | the whole thing is kinda OTT and clueless | Feb 24 06:55 |
DaemonFC | world of open access means you get to pay everytime you look at something? | Feb 24 06:55 |
DaemonFC | that would be the death of the internet | Feb 24 06:55 |
ThistleWind | pay to click | Feb 24 06:55 |
ThistleWind | which is all spam | Feb 24 06:56 |
ThistleWind | or pay to say even | Feb 24 06:56 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] I visited some school at Jaipur where director was telling me (w/ huge proud) they are legal parter with M$. Big posters of M$ Bullshit #wtf | Feb 24 06:56 | |
ThistleWind | this dude is so off the mark that you don't know where to begin | Feb 24 06:57 |
DaemonFC | zomgtheywontpayforfoxnews! | Feb 24 06:58 |
DaemonFC | ThistleWind, http://www.marcofolio.net/images/stories/fun/imagedump/demotivational_posters/bravery.jpg | Feb 24 07:04 |
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DaemonFC | :) | Feb 24 07:04 |
ThistleWind | lol | Feb 24 07:05 |
DaemonFC | http://www.marcofolio.net/images/stories/fun/imagedump/demotivational_posters/fatherhood.jpg | Feb 24 07:08 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Not long until International Women's Day on the 8th March - http://is.gd/93QmQ - be sure to find a way to celebrate it where you are, folks! | Feb 24 08:05 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Great to see the GNOME UX hackfest going well at the Canonical office in London - http://is.gd/93QME #gnome | Feb 24 08:07 | |
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schestowitz | Thus guy gets annoyed every time I criticise patents.... http://twitter.com/BytePatent/statuses/9558449670 | Feb 24 08:11 |
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schestowitz | http://www.esecurityplanet.com/features/article.php/3866121/Wiretapping-the-Internet-Legal-and-Dangerous.htm | Feb 24 08:26 |
schestowitz | http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/022210-computer-science.html "Corporate recruitment of top computer science grads has remained steady throughout the economic downturn. Last spring, at the height of the recession, Georgia Tech's College of Computing had the highest job placement rate of any major on campus and the highest starting salary. " | Feb 24 08:27 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] The USPTO grants patents for business methods, so that you can exclude your competitors from doing business the same way: http://i5.be/awj | Feb 24 08:33 | |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Sterne Kessler: Services: Business Method Patents .::. Size~: 12.35 KB | Feb 24 08:33 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Legal debates and discussions around software and patent protection are impassioned, energetic, and sometimes bewildering: http://i5.be/awl | Feb 24 08:42 | |
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Diablo-D3 | I just realized something | Feb 24 08:43 |
Diablo-D3 | the kindle dx is... | Feb 24 08:43 |
Diablo-D3 | 1) bigger screen than the ipad | Feb 24 08:43 |
Diablo-D3 | 2) has actual content now | Feb 24 08:43 |
Diablo-D3 | 3) higher res | Feb 24 08:43 |
Diablo-D3 | 4) longer battery life | Feb 24 08:43 |
Diablo-D3 | 5) useful physical interface | Feb 24 08:43 |
Diablo-D3 | 6) the same price as the cheapest ipad | Feb 24 08:44 |
Diablo-D3 | 7) the bigger brother of an even cheaper than the ipad product. | Feb 24 08:44 |
Diablo-D3 | if they'd make a color kindle dx, apple would be fucked. | Feb 24 08:44 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] 'nuff work. Goodnight, Internet, see you in seven hours. :-) | Feb 24 08:50 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Those who invest in projects like Peer-to-Patent are part of the conspiracy: http://i5.be/awm | Feb 24 08:53 | |
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schestowitz | Hahaha. | Feb 24 09:05 |
schestowitz | "Its scary to think that some of the people we have in our government right now believe in alot of the same principles as this lunatic. And our fearless loser (Obama) is one of them." http://biggovernment.com/publius/2010/02/21/sunday-open-thread-marx-edition/ | Feb 24 09:05 |
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schestowitz | More FAUX brainwash | Feb 24 09:05 |
schestowitz | zoobab: Tim Yeaton looks like you-know-who | Feb 24 09:07 |
zoobab | sure | Feb 24 09:21 |
schestowitz | http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/technology/local-users-and-analysts-upbeat-about-suns-future | Feb 24 09:26 |
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schestowitz | zoobab: not the first time I notice that BTW | Feb 24 09:26 |
schestowitz | It's just a little funny because I think of Black Duck as Microsoft spinoff | Feb 24 09:26 |
schestowitz | Second FOSS FUD article yesterday.... http://www.smh.com.au/technology/free-software-can-have-a-catch-20100222-orts.html | Feb 24 09:30 |
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schestowitz | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9160398/Managing_software_legal_compliance "be very afraid1!!!" | Feb 24 09:30 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] I recently bought a jar of coffee for the first time in a few years. Mistake. Caffeine is a surprisingly strong drug. | Feb 24 09:42 | |
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schestowitz | "Open source is a technique to accelerate adoption and it doesn't have the same fit [in Smarter Planet] as it does in other parts of the infrastructure," Zollar said. http://opensource.cbronline.com/news/no_fit_for_open_source_in_ibms_smarter_planet_tech_230210 | Feb 24 09:53 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jmcesteves: "deeply concerned by the secrecy surrounding international negotiations": MPs sign #ACTA motion: http://bit.ly/bt3I7J | Feb 24 09:57 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Switched TV on to #Ubuntu #Boxee box last night to enjoy some downloaded TV.Update Manager was on the screen.thought this wasn't to happen! | Feb 24 09:58 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jmcesteves: ████ the EU C██████! | Feb 24 09:58 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jmcesteves: #ACTA: #EU Council partially declassifies EU draft negotiation document—but the content remains hidden http://tr.im/Pxqm | Feb 24 09:58 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Windows Mobile decline both relative and absolute. http://is.gd/94b3Q | Feb 24 10:09 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] Windows Mobile decline both relative and absolute. http://is.gd/94b3Q | Feb 24 10:12 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Tiny Computer with Plenty of Connectivity, No OS. http://is.gd/94csS | Feb 24 10:17 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] Tiny Computer with Plenty of Connectivity, No OS. http://is.gd/94csS | Feb 24 10:17 | |
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zoobab | it has always an OS | Feb 24 10:24 |
schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1593070/inq-redesign needs better content | Feb 24 10:26 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @greve If you don't find truth in Dilbert, you haven't been in business long enough, me thinks... http://ur1.ca/n71o | Feb 24 10:29 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/23/google_to_end_you_tube_ie6_support/ | Feb 24 10:55 |
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cubezzz | anther Intel Atom device :-/ | Feb 24 10:57 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/22962550 "@schestowitz yep, amazon is a red hat user. so it enjoys our legal warranty." | Feb 24 10:58 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] UK national bullying help line has been suspended amidst political and confidentiality controversy | Feb 24 11:03 | |
schestowitz | http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/ is broken | Feb 24 11:05 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] UK national bullying help line has been suspended amidst political and confidentiality controversy | Feb 24 11:07 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] How to handle attacks on you in the blogosphere. http://is.gd/94lXh #debate #media #trolls | Feb 24 11:12 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] How to handle attacks on you in the blogosphere. http://is.gd/94lXh #debate #media #trolls | Feb 24 11:12 | |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Top Ten Ways to Handle a "Smear Campaign" | Stephen M. Walt .::. Size~: 77.45 KB | Feb 24 11:12 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/serious-threat-to-web-in-italy.html | Feb 24 11:19 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2010/02/nokias_loss_is_apples_gain_in.html | Feb 24 11:22 |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] seems like i screwed up something :| . #lessonlearnt need to fix things up :| | Feb 24 11:27 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] A counter-campaign to abolish patenting altogether, it denounced the idea of a patent as monopolistic retrogressive absurd: http://i5.be/awp | Feb 24 11:31 | |
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oiaohm | I am currently on my spare keyboard I just happen it hate it slightly. Its a old apple keyboard that will not die | Feb 24 11:34 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @zoobab: counter-campaign: abolish patenting altogether, denounc idea of a patent as monopolistic retrogressive absurd: http://i5.be/awp | Feb 24 11:44 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Great Free song by cjvanbrakel, tune of NGCHDTV. There is a link to the MP3 file as well: http://tinyurl.com/ylyxoas working on a trance mix | Feb 24 11:49 | |
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oiaohm | http://www.osnews.com/story/22915/EU_Launches_Antitrust_Inquiry_Into_Google Great | Feb 24 11:55 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @leplaid: Using open source makes you an enemy of the state http://bit.ly/cQ4j0z #foss #gnu #terrorist | Feb 24 11:59 | |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: When using open source makes you an enemy of the state |Technology |guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 113.28 KB | Feb 24 11:59 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] New mumbuntu Blog Post: "You have been eaten by a grue" http://bit.ly/d2uSgg | Feb 24 12:13 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] FFII Founder says the fight against software patents is its 3rd round now: http://i5.be/awr | Feb 24 12:25 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @zoobab: FFII Founder says the fight against software patents is its 3rd round now: http://i5.be/awr | Feb 24 12:29 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] The Indonesian government's policy weakens the software industry [...] by prefering companies offering open source http://i5.be/aws | Feb 24 12:29 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Scathing attack on Israel in pm's questions just now. #Israel #palestine #occupation | Feb 24 12:32 | |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] Scathing attack on Israel in pm's questions just now. #Israel #palestine #occupation | Feb 24 12:32 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Giant predatory shark fossil unearthed in Kansas http://ur1.ca/nczz !science | Feb 24 12:52 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] EU plans for an Supreme Patent Court and "but can it survive an attack from Hartmut Pilch?" http://i5.be/awt | Feb 24 13:10 | |
schestowitz | Heh. Skip to his conclusion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zSvY2Up2EA | Feb 24 13:12 |
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cubezzz | FOSS is unstoppable | Feb 24 13:13 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] The [software patent] battle has shifted to an effort to create a special patents court: http://i5.be/awt | Feb 24 13:13 | |
cubezzz | to stop FOSS you would have to stop text from being transferred over the internet | Feb 24 13:14 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Getting increasingly concerned about trusting my #drobo. http://bit.ly/9RLIf7 Probably wont upgrade disks now. Looking at alternatives. | Feb 24 13:14 | |
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cubezzz | or have some sort of dracoian DRM type computer | Feb 24 13:14 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] FFII or the army of students: http://i5.be/awt | Feb 24 13:15 | |
schestowitz | cubezzz: won't work | Feb 24 13:21 |
cubezzz | yeah exactly | Feb 24 13:23 |
cubezzz | FOSS is unstoppable :) | Feb 24 13:23 |
Diablo-D3 | FOSS CANNOT BE STOPPED | Feb 24 13:24 |
*Diablo-D3 rages ... with the machine? | Feb 24 13:24 | |
*Diablo-D3 confused. | Feb 24 13:24 | |
cubezzz | yeah rage _with_ the machine, that's the secret | Feb 24 13:24 |
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Eruaran | Good evening all | Feb 24 13:26 |
cubezzz | morning :) | Feb 24 13:26 |
Eruaran | Technically speaking it is morning here also | Feb 24 13:27 |
Eruaran | 12:20am | Feb 24 13:27 |
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Eruaran | I think Mono might end up nothing more than noise, static, in the scheme of things. 10 years from now, without Microsoft and Novell's ongoing patronage, where will Mono and Mono applications be? And will anybody care? | Feb 24 13:47 |
Eruaran | (which is not to day that people shouldn't point out the issues relating to Mono) | Feb 24 13:48 |
oiaohm | I really don't see mono disappearing as fast as any of us will like. | Feb 24 13:49 |
oiaohm | The intergration with llvm is about doing something MS most likely never dreamed would happen to .net | Feb 24 13:50 |
oiaohm | Ie the means to use it like any other language to create binaries. | Feb 24 13:50 |
oiaohm | Annoying that means it will be around for a long time to come. | Feb 24 13:51 |
cubezzz | just use LFS | Feb 24 13:51 |
cubezzz | then you have 100% control | Feb 24 13:51 |
Eruaran | I'm glad that Mono boosters at Novell have received nothing but a wet towel response from folks in the KDE community. | Feb 24 13:52 |
oiaohm | KDE has plently of there own plans. | Feb 24 13:53 |
Eruaran | yes | Feb 24 13:53 |
oiaohm | Including a lot of javascript | Feb 24 13:53 |
Eruaran | indeed | Feb 24 13:53 |
oiaohm | Most people don't notice how stagenet gnome development is. | Feb 24 13:54 |
Eruaran | I love the idea of Plasma making it super easy for people to make their own widgets and things. I like Plasmate. | Feb 24 13:55 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] [Patent] legislation works in favor of big business, and small companies or independent inventors are left out in the cold: http://i5.be/awu | Feb 24 13:56 | |
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Eruaran | GNOME lacks a future vision. | Feb 24 13:57 |
Eruaran | And is harmed by people who have the kind of future vision GNOME definately should not follow. | Feb 24 13:57 |
oiaohm | Plasma it self is bring cross distro code. | Feb 24 13:58 |
cubezzz | so you all use KDE I assume? | Feb 24 14:00 |
Eruaran | I do. | Feb 24 14:04 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Patent Attorneys and cancer doctors: a [patent attorney is] a cancer doctor working to cause more people to have cancer: http://i5.be/awu | Feb 24 14:09 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Would you give up your right to sue others for patent infringement in exchange for immunity from all patent lawsuits? 84%Y http://i5.be/awu | Feb 24 14:17 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Italy will be soon disconnected from the #Internet http://ur1.ca/nd6z | Feb 24 14:22 | |
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schestowitz | Eruaran: mono failed to spread | Feb 24 14:23 |
schestowitz | They have been trying for years | Feb 24 14:23 |
Diablo-D3 | mono failed to spread because its java done wrong | Feb 24 14:24 |
schestowitz | Italy is already disconnected from reality when it comes to the Web | Feb 24 14:25 |
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oiaohm | cubezzz: I see KDE bring items to Linux that are requirements for future. Now is everything KDE does right. Hell no. But progress is progress for every 2 steps forwards there has to be one back. | Feb 24 14:33 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @zoobab:Would y giv'up yr right t sue othrs fr patent infringement in exchange fr immunity from all patent lawsuits? 84%Y http://i5.be/awu | Feb 24 14:35 | |
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amarsh04 | Eruaran, I may see the Wayne Shorter quartet at the Adelaide Festival, probably about as close as one can get to Miles Davis and Jon Coltrane these days | Feb 24 14:49 |
oiaohm | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODAxMQ Some events in the OSS world are always interesting. | Feb 24 14:52 |
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Eruaran | amarsh04: sounds cool | Feb 24 14:57 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] [Public-software] Welcome to the Mailing List http://bit.ly/97lmCm #foss #publicsoftware | Feb 24 14:57 | |
oiaohm | http://www.blendernation.com/job-opening-terrestrial-3d-scanning/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Blendernation+%28BlenderNation%29 Not your normal job | Feb 24 14:59 |
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schestowitz | Good for Blender | Feb 24 15:00 |
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oiaohm | http://www.blendernation.com/physics-fun/ So day I wish I can get items this good or better out of blender | Feb 24 15:07 |
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oiaohm | so/some | Feb 24 15:07 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Online #Banking with #GNU #Linux Becoming a Trend http://ur1.ca/ndc2 | Feb 24 15:08 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux is Vulnerable... But Just to Weak Passwords http://ur1.ca/ndc7 http://ur1.ca/ndc8 | Feb 24 15:09 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Personal Stories of Adoption of Desktop #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/ndcy http://ur1.ca/ndcz | Feb 24 15:17 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Seven Wonders of #GNU #Linux http://duncsweb.com/2010/02/23/7-wonders-of-the-linux-world/ | Feb 24 15:18 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft "Plays Catch-up" with #GNU #Linux , New Tiny Computer Comes Windowsless http://ur1.ca/ndd4 http://ur1.ca/ndd6 | Feb 24 15:19 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Realtime #Linux #Kernel States Its Case in #Germany http://ur1.ca/ndde | Feb 24 15:22 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #KDE SC 4.4 "so beautiful, I think I'm going to cry" http://ur1.ca/n8is #gnu #linux | Feb 24 15:24 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #GNOME Shell, Other Important Developments at GNOME 3 UX Hackfest http://ur1.ca/ndds http://ur1.ca/nddt | Feb 24 15:26 | |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: [Phoronix] GNOME Shell 2.29 Brings A Lot Of Improvements .::. Size~: 16.34 KB | Feb 24 15:26 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] If #Oracle intends to shutdown #Solaris, would they please free it all under the "GPLv2 or later" so the good things can be reused? | Feb 24 15:30 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Where #LXDE is Better Than "Conventional" #GNU #Linux Desktop Environments http://ur1.ca/ndex | Feb 24 15:34 | |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: LXDE: Smaller, Faster than KDE or GNOME — Datamation.com .::. Size~: 67.89 KB | Feb 24 15:34 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Top 10" Minimalist Distributions of #GNU #Linux http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/archive/10-best-minimal-low-footprint-linux-distros/ | Feb 24 15:35 | |
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cubezzz | I agree, KDE is better than GNOME | Feb 24 15:36 |
cubezzz | but I like older KDE the most :) | Feb 24 15:37 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Wins Humours as Top Technology, Poses a Threat to #VMware http://ur1.ca/ndgq http://ur1.ca/ndgr | Feb 24 15:39 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fedora Changes Methods of Development http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/6989/1/ #gnu #linux #redhat | Feb 24 15:40 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu Has Nice New Wallpapers, Ubuntu Founder to Speak at #Pycon http://ur1.ca/n8ix http://ur1.ca/ndh6 | Feb 24 15:42 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Libelium and #Icecrypt Use Linux http://ur1.ca/ndhx http://ur1.ca/ndhy | Feb 24 15:45 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] I like this #quote by pope john paul 2 RT: Taking of life http://quotecatholic.com/?p=98 (via @chadmccullough ) | Feb 24 15:47 | |
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schestowitz | cubezzz: I don't think I could get back to older KDE | Feb 24 15:53 |
cubezzz | "Kandalf the wizard was the former mascot for the KDE project during its 1.x and 2.x versions, but he was dropped due to copyright issues" | Feb 24 15:54 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nokia 's #Linux Phones to Come on Many Chip Types http://www.rethink-wireless.com/2010/02/23/nokia-snapdragon-intel-devices-summer.htm | Feb 24 15:54 | |
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cubezzz | still looking for 3.4.2 source | Feb 24 15:55 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux on Sub-notebooks Works Well and #HP Tries #Android http://ur1.ca/ndjr http://ur1.ca/ndjs | Feb 24 15:56 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Mobile Computers Expected to Sell Over a Hundred Million http://ur1.ca/ndjy http://ur1.ca/ndjz | Feb 24 15:58 | |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Smartbooks to reach 165 million units in 2015, says study - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 60.6 KB | Feb 24 15:58 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #MSBBC Blocks Free Software Again http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/24/iplayer_xbmc_adobe_swf_verification/ | Feb 24 15:59 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenOffice .org 3.2 Received Positive Review, 50 Free Software Downloads, http://ur1.ca/ndk6 http://ur1.ca/ndk7 | Feb 24 16:01 | |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: OpenOffice.org 3.2 Offers Modest Update, Better Startup Speed - Linux and Open Source from eWeek .::. Size~: 108.95 KB | Feb 24 16:01 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Picked in India for Technical Merit, Not Cost http://ur1.ca/ndke http://ur1.ca/ndkg | Feb 24 16:02 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] "A modern luxury car has ~ 100 mln lines of #code in it, on 70-100 microprocessors" http://bit.ly/9APltN | Feb 24 16:02 | |
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phIRCe-BNc | Title: Slashdot | NHTSA Has No Software Engineers To Analyze Toyota .::. Size~: 235.54 KB | Feb 24 16:03 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Good news! ♺ @pvilela: @RuiSeabra Oracle does not intend to shutdown Solaris | Feb 24 16:04 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] European Commission's report hostile to Free Software, promoting software patents in standards and the undefined RAND term: http://i5.be/aww | Feb 24 16:05 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Oops, I mean... of course, the Open #Solaris (on both my previous messages)! | Feb 24 16:05 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @jeremyscahill McCain: #Blackwater killed "innocent Afghan civilians" // what's he gonna do about it? doing nothing is complicity. #crime | Feb 24 16:06 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @carlopiana: ♺ @janhusar: EuroISPA: Leaked #ACTA text shows treaty would threaten fundamental rights. http://bit.ly/aC9kAF #freedom | Feb 24 16:18 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Apache Software Foundation Turns 15, Adds #Cassandra http://ur1.ca/n8z1 http://ur1.ca/ndn2 | Feb 24 16:26 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Motion in the European Parliament to access the secret ACTA documents: http://i5.be/awx | Feb 24 16:43 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IntellectualMonopoly Zealots Pose a Danger to Society http://techdirt.com/articles/20100217/0310368194.shtml | Feb 24 16:50 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[aondo] updating to ubuntu 10.04 on my laptop, hope it is stable enough :D if not i'll try archlinux for the first time | Feb 24 16:52 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[aondo] ♺ @brokep: http://bit.ly/9Kalzh @google was not there to support #thepiratebay. Now they get to taste the same shit. | Feb 24 17:03 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @DaHammerstein MEPs Castex, Lambrinidis, Rothova and Alvaro in press conference now in Brussels present written declaration against ACTA | Feb 24 17:07 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jmcesteves: RT @j_zim IMPORTANT! Help the European Parliament oppose #ACTA! http://ur1.ca/ndqr Urge MEPs to sign the written declaration | Feb 24 17:19 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Windows Mobile Down Sharply, #Linux / #Android Up Sharply http://ur1.ca/ndsx Microsoft has already lost the high end (HPC) | Feb 24 17:22 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jzim: @michaelgeist have you seen the European Parliament against #ACTA? http://ur1.ca/ndqr Every EU citizen can participate and help! | Feb 24 17:26 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] You need a girl whose name doesn't end in ... http://bit.ly/9WDVVx :) | Feb 24 17:37 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] Countries using FOSS software "weaken the industry" and "fail to build respect for intellectual property rights"? http://bit.ly/cKl0wQ WTF?? | Feb 24 17:57 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Dear smart Republicans, please do something about these fuckwits. http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=730&sid=1894168 | Feb 24 17:57 | |
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sebsebseb | Hi | Feb 24 18:06 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Hugging #FreeSoftware to Death and #Novell ’s Embrace of Proprietary Platforms http://ur1.ca/ne04 Novell getting more closed | Feb 24 18:10 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Israel worries it is losing sympathy of broad western public opinion http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/3732b86e-2168-11df-830e-00144feab49a.html | Feb 24 18:18 | |
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MinceR | 140815 < cubezzz> or have some sort of dracoian DRM type computer | Feb 24 18:26 |
MinceR | Treacherous Computing | Feb 24 18:26 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[aondo] ah took its time to update to lucid on this old laptop, first operation is to change away from yahoo! so sorry ms! | Feb 24 18:27 | |
sebsebseb | MinceR: sweet your here | Feb 24 18:27 |
sebsebseb | anyone else? | Feb 24 18:27 |
MinceR | :> | Feb 24 18:28 |
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sebsebseb | MinceR: a bit annoyed at my older brother at the moment | Feb 24 18:31 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: also thinking about how Ubuntu needs to win over people like that properly, to gain a proper market share | Feb 24 18:31 |
sebsebseb | "average consumers" who use Facebook and that | Feb 24 18:31 |
bruce89 | erm | Feb 24 18:31 |
sebsebseb | 10.04 might win more of those over | Feb 24 18:31 |
bruce89 | I use Facebook | Feb 24 18:31 |
bruce89 | sort of | Feb 24 18:31 |
sebsebseb | bruce89: meaning? | Feb 24 18:32 |
bruce89 | meaning that you think I'm a dunce | Feb 24 18:32 |
sebsebseb | bruce89: Facebook pft, I could use it more, and be in contact with people I used to go to school with, that never really were my friends, if I wanted to | Feb 24 18:32 |
MinceR | nah, you merely don't value your privacy :> | Feb 24 18:32 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @webmink: .Oracle has NOT annc'd EOL of OpenSolaris. Page you ref is an old page detailing lifecycles. Fully discussed on list. | Feb 24 18:32 | |
bruce89 | it's basically a placeholder for me though | Feb 24 18:33 |
sebsebseb | bruce89: alpha 3 tommorow, and I haven't tried the Facebook features properly, I might, with an account | Feb 24 18:33 |
bruce89 | aw, OSM wasn't on the news | Feb 24 18:33 |
sebsebseb | bruce89: OSM??? | Feb 24 18:34 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: yeah loads of stupid/ignorant people use Facebook | Feb 24 18:34 |
bruce89 | you can talk | Feb 24 18:34 |
sebsebseb | that's what they do, keep in touch with all their "friends" | Feb 24 18:34 |
fewa | yelp | Feb 24 18:34 |
sebsebseb | and fake friends | Feb 24 18:34 |
fewa | and compile lots of records doing it | Feb 24 18:34 |
sebsebseb | my brother has over 30 people on his Facebook | Feb 24 18:35 |
fewa | thats not much | Feb 24 18:35 |
bruce89 | that's nearly what I have even | Feb 24 18:35 |
sebsebseb | fewa: I don't know how many he actsaully has | Feb 24 18:35 |
fewa | i would say ~500 would be reasonable for anyone that actually spends time on there | Feb 24 18:35 |
sebsebseb | Facebook and Twitter, that's what a lot of people who are ignorant at computers, like doing on the computer | Feb 24 18:35 |
fewa | or maybe more like 100+ | Feb 24 18:35 |
fewa | myspace | Feb 24 18:36 |
bruce89 | look, you can't tar people with the same brush | Feb 24 18:36 |
*MinceR cpios people with the same brush instead | Feb 24 18:36 | |
bruce89 | oh dear, well done | Feb 24 18:36 |
sebsebseb | bruce89: if you don't like what is said by people here, which I know you don't always, you can leave or not join | Feb 24 18:36 |
*MinceR bows | Feb 24 18:36 | |
fewa | sebsebseb, cut the crap | Feb 24 18:37 |
bruce89 | sebsebseb: what on earth are you on about | Feb 24 18:37 |
bruce89 | I appreciate bad jokes MinceR | Feb 24 18:37 |
sebsebseb | bruce89: maybe I am misunderstanding something | Feb 24 18:37 |
bruce89 | wouldn't be the first time... | Feb 24 18:37 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] I think you are only allowed 1 visit a month as a non subscriber to the FT, good luck getting through. | Feb 24 18:38 | |
sebsebseb | bruce89: anyway for now, nice to be home again, and online | Feb 24 18:39 |
sebsebseb | ,but then before Wednesday being at home is likely to get boring again | Feb 24 18:39 |
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bruce89 | I'm sure | Feb 24 18:42 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] In ten minutes I present about Opportunistic Developers and how we are embracing them in Ubuntu - watch live at http://is.gd/960b9 | Feb 24 18:57 | |
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bruce89 | http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/02/24/lucid_lynx_shuttleworth/ | Feb 24 19:01 |
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bruce89 | phIRCe-BNc: I'll give you a bad request | Feb 24 19:02 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Woman blasthemes in Congressional hearing, tries to blame #Toyota for her lies http://ur1.ca/ne91 #douchebag tag for #ford #gm #chrysler | Feb 24 19:02 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How boosters of #Microsoft have covered the insulting “support” of #ODF in Microsoft Office http://ur1.ca/nea5 #ooxml #spin | Feb 24 19:09 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] "Cathedrals are susceptible to top-down error." https://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1561726&cid=31260312 #gpl #foss | Feb 24 19:11 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Bloomenergy 's Bloom Energy Server looks awesome, but why does it sound like snake oil? I hope its legit http://ur1.ca/neab !science | Feb 24 19:12 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] IP alliance supports and funds #douchebag activities http://ur1.ca/near | Feb 24 19:17 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Rand Paul supports coal industry... wait, what? http://ur1.ca/neb4 | Feb 24 19:22 | |
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sebsebseb | bruce89: Thanks for this link in you know where http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/02/24/lucid_lynx_shuttleworth/ however I would of prefered a link to the article, or a link to the article and a link to the comments. | Feb 24 19:30 |
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bruce89 | sebsebseb: the comments are more interesting | Feb 24 19:31 |
sebsebseb | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/24/lucid_lynx_shuttleworth/ | Feb 24 19:32 |
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bruce89 | surprisingly, I read that | Feb 24 19:33 |
cubezzz | finally got kradio working good | Feb 24 19:34 |
sebsebseb | bruce89: Just starting to read the article | Feb 24 19:37 |
sebsebseb | "PCs running Ubuntu will be getting more social thanks to changes that will set the popular Linux distro's look and feel for the next five years." | Feb 24 19:38 |
sebsebseb | uh what? | Feb 24 19:38 |
sebsebseb | LTS is supported for three years on the Desktop | Feb 24 19:38 |
sebsebseb | it's five on the server that has no GUI | Feb 24 19:38 |
sebsebseb | server version. also Gnome 3 this September, and uhmm I expect 11.04 might have it as the default DE, if not I guess 11.10 | Feb 24 19:39 |
sebsebseb | something about a light theme? | Feb 24 19:40 |
sebsebseb | it seems | Feb 24 19:40 |
sebsebseb | bruce89: ianto cubezzz schestowitz fewa MinceR well I guess alpha 3 will be a bit of fun to virtual machine tommorow | Feb 24 19:41 |
MinceR | why? | Feb 24 19:42 |
Diablo-D3 | "vegeta, what does the scouter say about gnome 3?" 'ITS OVER NINE THOUSAND.... bugs." "what, nine thousand?!" | Feb 24 19:42 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: since it apparantly will be feature complete or very nearly | Feb 24 19:42 |
MinceR | Diablo-D3: lol | Feb 24 19:42 |
bruce89 | oh for goodness sake, don't highlight this channel | Feb 24 19:43 |
Diablo-D3 | #boycottnovell #boycottnovell #boycottnovell #boycottnovell #boycottnovell #boycottnovell #boycottnovell #boycottnovell #boycottnovell #boycottnovell #boycottnovell #boycottnovell #boycottnovell #boycottnovell #boycottnovell | Feb 24 19:43 |
MinceR | lol | Feb 24 19:43 |
*ianto agrees with bruce89 | Feb 24 19:44 | |
sebsebseb | MinceR: silly thick at computers people in the family.... | Feb 24 19:49 |
sebsebseb | I am not just going to lend a USB stick if I don't have to, when apparnatlly my Mum has some how broken her's maybe | Feb 24 19:50 |
bruce89 | that's nice of you to call your family thick | Feb 24 19:51 |
cubezzz | heh | Feb 24 19:51 |
cubezzz | THat's Grooovy | Feb 24 19:51 |
sebsebseb | and something about emails not working again on her lap top, that's Outlook by the way | Feb 24 19:52 |
sebsebseb | why can't she just use web mail sometimes like someone, that isn't a total idiot at computers ? | Feb 24 19:52 |
ianto | "emails not working again on her laptop"? | Feb 24 19:52 |
sebsebseb | ianto: yeah | Feb 24 19:52 |
ianto | I am going to cry at that construction | Feb 24 19:52 |
*bruce89 cries at the lack of a hyphen | Feb 24 19:53 | |
sebsebseb | ianto: what do you mean? | Feb 24 19:53 |
sebsebseb | well this is new, normalley they come to me asking to borrow money, not USB sticks | Feb 24 19:53 |
sebsebseb | anyway I got some stuff on the four I have, that I should put on this computer really, and probably my external hard disk as well really | Feb 24 19:54 |
cubezzz | well, gmail and web mail is slow | Feb 24 19:54 |
cubezzz | I don't usually use it | Feb 24 19:54 |
sebsebseb | cubezzz: no it's just log in to it, on any computer | Feb 24 19:54 |
sebsebseb | also for her job, I think there may be a web mail side to it, but can she log in etc, hrm | Feb 24 19:55 |
*ianto waits for a mention of "cloud" | Feb 24 19:55 | |
cubezzz | just use mutt :) | Feb 24 19:55 |
sebsebseb | in fact I think now maybe, can upload stuff to the network account, from home | Feb 24 19:55 |
bruce89 | it's cloudy here ianto, snow fell | Feb 24 19:55 |
sebsebseb | ianto: the cloud? dropbox? | Feb 24 19:55 |
sebsebseb | maybe the stick needs formatting, something about formatting | Feb 24 19:56 |
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sebsebseb | anyway going to IT asking for help LOL | Feb 24 19:56 |
sebsebseb | of course they will say it's broken or whatever, since they don't want to help if they can avoide it, since they are morons? | Feb 24 19:57 |
bruce89 | no, the Phantom Cloud of Spain™ | Feb 24 19:57 |
cubezzz | why use xml for radio presets?? | Feb 24 19:57 |
cubezzz | why not just plain ascii? | Feb 24 19:57 |
bruce89 | sebsebseb: broken in which way? | Feb 24 19:58 |
bruce89 | dd it and reformat perhaps | Feb 24 19:58 |
sebsebseb | bruce89: not sure exactly | Feb 24 19:58 |
ianto | bruce89: Probably just a corruption | Feb 24 19:58 |
sebsebseb | dd it that takes ages and is unessary? | Feb 24 19:58 |
sebsebseb | probably just needs a format | Feb 24 19:58 |
sebsebseb | i'll ask to see it soon | Feb 24 19:59 |
bruce89 | try it thrn | Feb 24 19:59 |
sebsebseb | to try it I mean | Feb 24 19:59 |
sebsebseb | ianto: data curruption | Feb 24 19:59 |
sebsebseb | or file system? | Feb 24 19:59 |
DaemonFC | data corruption is your friend, please use Ext4 | Feb 24 20:00 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 24 20:00 |
ianto | Not for a USB drive... | Feb 24 20:00 |
sebsebseb | indeed not for a USB drive | Feb 24 20:01 |
bruce89 | journals and sticks make something happen | Feb 24 20:01 |
sebsebseb | best to stay with Fat32 or NTFS I guess? | Feb 24 20:01 |
ianto | ext2 or fat32 if you want universal access | Feb 24 20:01 |
ianto | Heh NTFS drive, you kidding? | Feb 24 20:01 |
sebsebseb | oh yeah if NTFS doesn't shut down properly | Feb 24 20:01 |
sebsebseb | Linux can't just read and write to it | Feb 24 20:01 |
sebsebseb | for example | Feb 24 20:01 |
bruce89 | ExFAT! | Feb 24 20:01 |
DaemonFC | the biggest difference between Ext4 and XFS during an unclean shutdown is that Ext4 will probably erase all the data in a file that was being written, whereas XFS fills it with 0's | Feb 24 20:01 |
sebsebseb | ianto: yeah I guess format it as Fat32 if I can | Feb 24 20:02 |
DaemonFC | so really where is the advantage in Ext4? | Feb 24 20:02 |
sebsebseb | and it should be ok | Feb 24 20:02 |
sebsebseb | ianto: so data currupted it? or something happened to the file system? | Feb 24 20:02 |
ianto | Combination of the two probably | Feb 24 20:02 |
bruce89 | DaemonFC: 4 is bigger than 3 | Feb 24 20:02 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] An IP holocaust, with the big boys beating the crap out of each other, would be wonderful: http://i5.be/awH | Feb 24 20:02 | |
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DaemonFC | bruce89, ExFAT will have to be built into the kernel in some way | Feb 24 20:03 |
sebsebseb | ianto: if so, why? | Feb 24 20:03 |
DaemonFC | or maybe just as a FUSE filesystem | Feb 24 20:03 |
ianto | sebsebseb: Unclean umount most probs | Feb 24 20:03 |
sebsebseb | ianto: yeah I was thinking something like that | Feb 24 20:03 |
sebsebseb | she probably hasn't unmounted it on Windows | Feb 24 20:03 |
Diablo-D3 | btw, re file system | Feb 24 20:03 |
sebsebseb | and then probelm | Feb 24 20:03 |
Diablo-D3 | if you need to write, fat32 has the largest change of being read anywhere | Feb 24 20:03 |
sebsebseb | just taken it out | Feb 24 20:03 |
Diablo-D3 | if not, iso9960 | Feb 24 20:04 |
DaemonFC | FAT32 limitations are already being hit by users of flash filesystems | Feb 24 20:04 |
sebsebseb | well that's what I would do myself usually with a USB stick when running on Windows, even though I know it should be unmounted first really | Feb 24 20:04 |
DaemonFC | ExFAT will end up being the default file system on lots of portable devices | Feb 24 20:04 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Windows can't support this ExFAT though? | Feb 24 20:04 |
sebsebseb | or is that the new Micrsooft file system | Feb 24 20:04 |
sebsebseb | so no XP support | Feb 24 20:04 |
sebsebseb | ? | Feb 24 20:04 |
DaemonFC | sebsebseb, XP SP2 or SP3 can with a patch | Feb 24 20:04 |
DaemonFC | Vista SP2 has it | Feb 24 20:05 |
bruce89 | DaemonFC: indeed, wasn't there a huge patent issue or something abou it | Feb 24 20:05 |
DaemonFC | 7 has it | Feb 24 20:05 |
Diablo-D3 | exfat is the new fat32 for embedded devices | Feb 24 20:05 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC: well it will have to be Fat32 on the USB stick then | Feb 24 20:05 |
sebsebseb | to be sure it should open up no problem on Windows computers | Feb 24 20:05 |
ianto | AKA Fat64 | Feb 24 20:05 |
Diablo-D3 | yeah basically. | Feb 24 20:05 |
DaemonFC | sebsebseb, FAT32 is a bad file system for flash devices | Feb 24 20:05 |
bruce89 | or reallyFAT | Feb 24 20:05 |
DaemonFC | 4 GB file limit | Feb 24 20:05 |
sebsebseb | anyway there probably isn't an option on the Windows formatter for ExFAT | Feb 24 20:05 |
Diablo-D3 | its kind of needed | Feb 24 20:05 |
DaemonFC | that's the biggest problem | Feb 24 20:05 |
sebsebseb | also I might end up doing it in Linux don't now yet | Feb 24 20:05 |
Diablo-D3 | fat32 is too small for modern usage | Feb 24 20:05 |
DaemonFC | 32 GB partition limit | Feb 24 20:05 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC: her files are small | Feb 24 20:05 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC: no where near 1GB even | Feb 24 20:06 |
sebsebseb | just Word documents and powerpoints and such | Feb 24 20:06 |
DaemonFC | well, FAT32 partitions can go up to 128 GB, but Windows won't let you make one that big anymore | Feb 24 20:06 |
DaemonFC | oddly enough, Windows 98 users can make one that big :) | Feb 24 20:06 |
bruce89 | does btrfs need a journal? | Feb 24 20:07 |
DaemonFC | sebsebseb, When flash cards are sold above 32 GB with ExFAT on them, Linux users can probably still reformat them to FAT32 | Feb 24 20:07 |
sebsebseb | being slightly bitched at to help with this stuff :D | Feb 24 20:07 |
sebsebseb | that was earlier yeah | Feb 24 20:07 |
DaemonFC | devices may not like that though | Feb 24 20:08 |
Diablo-D3 | bruce89: yes | Feb 24 20:08 |
Diablo-D3 | bruce89: but btrfs is all internally a proven COW design | Feb 24 20:08 |
Diablo-D3 | data corruption is extremely hard to pull off on btrfs unnoticed | Feb 24 20:08 |
sebsebseb | so many Windows users with problems, that don't know about other OS's | Feb 24 20:08 |
sebsebseb | that would if they knew a bit more | Feb 24 20:08 |
Diablo-D3 | and impossible when using btrfs managed raid1 or better | Feb 24 20:08 |
DaemonFC | sebsebseb, I still have to use FAT32 just because it's what my mp3 player uderstands :P | Feb 24 20:09 |
DaemonFC | thankfully, Linux has worked around the patent that Microsoft sued TomTom over | Feb 24 20:09 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Good :) | Feb 24 20:09 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC: oh yeah | Feb 24 20:09 |
Diablo-D3 | http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kycms0DNMc1qzpwi0o1_500.png | Feb 24 20:09 |
sebsebseb | did you miss the Amazon stuff or? | Feb 24 20:09 |
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sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: Amazon have made a Novell like deal with Microsoft | Feb 24 20:09 |
Diablo-D3 | sebsebseb: good for them. | Feb 24 20:09 |
bruce89 | sebsebseb: yeah, they still haven't delivered my stuff | Feb 24 20:09 |
Diablo-D3 | amazon is no longer relevant. | Feb 24 20:09 |
sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: I messagd wrong one there | Feb 24 20:10 |
sebsebseb | I meant to message DaemonFC | Feb 24 20:10 |
Diablo-D3 | DaemonFC: change your nick already | Feb 24 20:10 |
DaemonFC | yeah, my guess is that the "Amazon paid MS an undisclosed amount" in the PR release was a sham | Feb 24 20:10 |
DaemonFC | I bet MS turned around and paid Amazon even more off the radar | Feb 24 20:10 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC: right well the day before, you were saying how you would rather have Amazon for Canonical's music store | Feb 24 20:10 |
Diablo-D3 | Im going to bed, night all | Feb 24 20:10 |
DaemonFC | sebsebseb, That was before this went down | Feb 24 20:11 |
DaemonFC | it's not like they talked about it first | Feb 24 20:11 |
DaemonFC | it was just simple announced | Feb 24 20:11 |
DaemonFC | *simply | Feb 24 20:11 |
sebsebseb | bruce89: before not sure about now, but stuff would come useauly in two to four working days, plus can find out in the account what's going on | Feb 24 20:11 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC: so now you don't like Amazon? | Feb 24 20:12 |
bruce89 | I know, I was trying to be humourous | Feb 24 20:12 |
DaemonFC | I would have been even more suspicious of Canonical in retrospect if they announced Amazon MP3 would be their Ubuntu One store and THEN the MS-Amazon deal went down the next day | Feb 24 20:12 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC: interesting point | Feb 24 20:13 |
sebsebseb | also I am not sure, but I think that Yahoo and Microsoft deal came after | Feb 24 20:13 |
sebsebseb | the one Canonical made | Feb 24 20:13 |
DaemonFC | nope | Feb 24 20:13 |
DaemonFC | it was finalized but not yet in effect | Feb 24 20:13 |
bruce89 | I worry about the stuff that Canonical is doing to make it easier to fork further FOSS stuff | Feb 24 20:13 |
DaemonFC | so Canonical knew they were going to be sending hits to Bing | Feb 24 20:13 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft the #Tax Evader Wants Taxpayers to Spend Billions Building It a Bridge, Hires PR/Lobbyists http://ur1.ca/neho | Feb 24 20:13 | |
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bruce89 | the principles are good however | Feb 24 20:14 |
sebsebseb | bruce89: fork FOSS stuff? such as? | Feb 24 20:14 |
DaemonFC | forking FOSS is one of the RMS freedoms, no? :) | Feb 24 20:14 |
sebsebseb | back in a bit, this USB stick stuff, or i'll end up getting nagged again later | Feb 24 20:14 |
bruce89 | well, it seems bad to only patch Ubuntu packages | Feb 24 20:14 |
DaemonFC | Enough people get pissed at the main project, they're free to say "fuck you, we're leaving!" and maybe make better stuff out of the forked code | Feb 24 20:14 |
bruce89 | I respect the principle of forking | Feb 24 20:15 |
DaemonFC | that "Carrier" fork of Pidgin didn't last, but it brought some changes to Pidgin | Feb 24 20:15 |
bruce89 | maybe "fork" wasn't the best term to use | Feb 24 20:15 |
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DaemonFC | bruce89, If Ubuntu makes changes and distributes the changed materials, they have to publish the patches they used | Feb 24 20:16 |
DaemonFC | right? | Feb 24 20:16 |
bruce89 | of course, and they do | Feb 24 20:16 |
ianto | It's dependant on the license ^ | Feb 24 20:16 |
DaemonFC | so if the upstream likes the patches, they can use all of them, or some of them | Feb 24 20:16 |
DaemonFC | and if it's a stupid idea, they can ignore them | Feb 24 20:17 |
bruce89 | it just seems to me that they're behaving as the canonical (no pun) upstream | Feb 24 20:17 |
DaemonFC | that's a good thing | Feb 24 20:17 |
DaemonFC | well, Canonical will find out what trying to juggle a billion out of tree patches and keep up with upstream is like | Feb 24 20:17 |
DaemonFC | eventually | Feb 24 20:17 |
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DaemonFC | if they insist on maintaining stupid crap that's never going to be merged | Feb 24 20:18 |
bruce89 | well exactly | Feb 24 20:18 |
bruce89 | they seem to like making life very difficult for themselves | Feb 24 20:18 |
DaemonFC | they'll reach a point where they've streched their resources too thin and they can't go any further | Feb 24 20:18 |
DaemonFC | that will be what puts a check on them | Feb 24 20:18 |
bruce89 | what I find interesting is how they'll deal with GNOME 3.0 | Feb 24 20:19 |
bruce89 | a lot of the patches they have actually are basically implementing GNOME 3.0 in 2.28/2.30 | Feb 24 20:19 |
DaemonFC | the more out of tree patches they insist on maintaining, the more people they have to dedicate to maintaining and applying those patches, and nothing else | Feb 24 20:19 |
DaemonFC | seems like a really bad idea to me | Feb 24 20:20 |
DaemonFC | it may start out with a few people doing that, but as the patches snowball, you're going to need teams of dozens of people on the payroll to do that | Feb 24 20:20 |
bruce89 | which of course means there are fewer actually doing useful stuff | Feb 24 20:21 |
DaemonFC | eventually you have this assembly line of people maintaining and applying out of tree patches | Feb 24 20:21 |
DaemonFC | to make an Ubuntu release | Feb 24 20:21 |
DaemonFC | bruce89, Yeah, it's a form of self-limiting stupidity | Feb 24 20:21 |
DaemonFC | cherish those, they are rare in this world | Feb 24 20:21 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 24 20:22 |
bruce89 | heh | Feb 24 20:22 |
DaemonFC | Ubuntu needs to develop and maintain a good working relationship with the upstreams that are vital to their distribution | Feb 24 20:23 |
bruce89 | the phraseology "Ubuntu platform" is slightly concerning; I've never liked the idea of one distro becoming a monopoly | Feb 24 20:23 |
DaemonFC | and not try to develop GNOME outside of GNOME, for example | Feb 24 20:23 |
DaemonFC | you go to #gnome and ask why GNOME in Ubuntu is doing something they'll tell you "Why the hell would we know!?" | Feb 24 20:23 |
bruce89 | yes, it seems as if they think GNOME wouldn't accept their changes, so they don't even try to collaborate | Feb 24 20:23 |
DaemonFC | notify-osd is not stupid, imo | Feb 24 20:24 |
DaemonFC | now, the indicator applets are stupid | Feb 24 20:24 |
DaemonFC | I'd like to see notidy -osd go upstream but not the indicator applets | Feb 24 20:25 |
bruce89 | that's interesting, I'm the complete opposite I think | Feb 24 20:25 |
bruce89 | perhaps the principle of notify-osd is fine, but the implementation seems to have been flawed | Feb 24 20:26 |
DaemonFC | well, at first it was | Feb 24 20:26 |
bruce89 | I can't really comment, I left Ubuntu soon after it appeard | Feb 24 20:26 |
DaemonFC | the problem is that some applications don't use the freedesktop.org spec for notifications | Feb 24 20:27 |
DaemonFC | so originally, in the alphas of Ubuntu 9.04, you had some apps not using notify-osd, which needed patched to comply with freedesktop.org's spec | Feb 24 20:27 |
DaemonFC | that's how I understand it | Feb 24 20:27 |
bruce89 | not surprising though, because notification-daemon was the only notification daemon; and it could do everything the spec said | Feb 24 20:28 |
DaemonFC | so enforcing the standard can lead to a disaster when some apps don't use that standard | Feb 24 20:28 |
DaemonFC | XChat is an example | Feb 24 20:28 |
DaemonFC | so you not only need to get GNOME on board with this, but you need to get XChat to accept a patch that makes it use freedesktop.org notification standards | Feb 24 20:29 |
DaemonFC | repeat for the other few dozen offenders | Feb 24 20:29 |
bruce89 | might be tricky | Feb 24 20:29 |
DaemonFC | so thats where a lot of Ubuntu patches are at right now, just making notify-osd work | Feb 24 20:29 |
DaemonFC | it's not that they've done a bad thing, it's just that you have to wonder how they're going to get all those upstreams in line with the standard that they are enforcing | Feb 24 20:30 |
bruce89 | what's this whole indicator-applet all about, what I've seen of it makes me think it slows things down hugely | Feb 24 20:30 |
DaemonFC | it doesn't, but it's a bad idea | Feb 24 20:31 |
DaemonFC | they literally cannot implement it correctly without help from GNOME | Feb 24 20:31 |
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DaemonFC | right now in Lucid, it's gone further and tries to replace the notification area | Feb 24 20:32 |
DaemonFC | but again, things like Xchat don't use it | Feb 24 20:32 |
DaemonFC | so you get two notification areas, GNOME's, and indicator-applet's | Feb 24 20:32 |
bruce89 | hmm | Feb 24 20:32 |
DaemonFC | they really need GNOME to help integrate it, or just drop it | Feb 24 20:33 |
bruce89 | it's basically a notification folder sort of | Feb 24 20:33 |
DaemonFC | kind of | Feb 24 20:33 |
bruce89 | well, that's interesting, they're proposing it for GNOME | Feb 24 20:33 |
DaemonFC | they need GNOME to help them make indicator the new official notification area | Feb 24 20:33 |
bruce89 | however I feel that gnome-shell kind of puts paid to that anway | Feb 24 20:33 |
DaemonFC | and force everything trying to use the notification area to use indicator | Feb 24 20:33 |
DaemonFC | yeah, gnome-shell might make all of Ubuntu's indicator-applet stuff useless anyway | Feb 24 20:34 |
bruce89 | they have their copyright assignment thing on it too | Feb 24 20:34 |
DaemonFC | Ubuntu might just be working to patch up the old system that's being trashed anyway | Feb 24 20:34 |
DaemonFC | lol | Feb 24 20:34 |
DaemonFC | I had thought of that | Feb 24 20:34 |
bruce89 | wouldn't surprise me | Feb 24 20:34 |
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DaemonFC | Well, Red Hat and Novell have their mark on the network manager applet | Feb 24 20:35 |
DaemonFC | so there's nothing inherently evil in Ubuntu doing that with indicator-crapplet | Feb 24 20:35 |
DaemonFC | just that indicator-crapplet is crap | Feb 24 20:35 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 24 20:35 |
DaemonFC | it's a usability nightmare | Feb 24 20:36 |
DaemonFC | about to be made worse in Lucid | Feb 24 20:36 |
DaemonFC | and to where you can't get rid of it | Feb 24 20:36 |
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DaemonFC | Ubuntu patched a lot of stuff so they can't use the standard notification tray and took the minimize to tray plugin out of Rhythmbox | Feb 24 20:37 |
DaemonFC | they're trying to corral people into using their bad system where you used to be able to turn it off and pay it no further mind | Feb 24 20:37 |
bruce89 | I see | Feb 24 20:37 |
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DaemonFC | I don't have a problem with a crapplet that I can turn off | Feb 24 20:38 |
balzac | bloodclot | Feb 24 20:38 |
DaemonFC | GNOME has plenty of crap I don't turn on | Feb 24 20:38 |
DaemonFC | what I hate are mandatory crapplets | Feb 24 20:38 |
DaemonFC | where the system literally cannot work as you need it to without the crapplet | Feb 24 20:39 |
bruce89 | actually, I don't understand why libindicate is needed, surely a slightly more fancy GtkStatusIcon would work? | Feb 24 20:39 |
DaemonFC | jono, Or how I stopped worrying and learned to love the mandatory crapplet. | Feb 24 20:39 |
DaemonFC | I for one welcome our new indicator crapplet overlords :) | Feb 24 20:39 |
DaemonFC | bruce89, Things that make the system work more smoothly, I'm all for | Feb 24 20:40 |
DaemonFC | throw as many of those in as you like | Feb 24 20:40 |
DaemonFC | Things like indicator crapplet are as smooth as an Egyptian whiskey | Feb 24 20:40 |
DaemonFC | :P | Feb 24 20:40 |
bruce89 | careful now, I'm Scottish | Feb 24 20:40 |
bruce89 | actually, that doesn't follow, never mind | Feb 24 20:41 |
DaemonFC | Replacing things that are annoying with things that don't require user aggravation is a Good Thing(R) (notify-osd). Replacing things that work fine (GNOME notification tray) with things that are bullshit and make the system work less smoothly and piss the user off (indicator-crapplet) are a Bad Thing(R) | Feb 24 20:43 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 24 20:43 |
DaemonFC | so Ubuntu has been a mixed blessing for usability in GNOME | Feb 24 20:43 |
bruce89 | I don't know if notify-osd helps respond to things, I mean I realise that it's meant to be the opposite | Feb 24 20:43 |
DaemonFC | I don't like the notifications that sit there and make me do something with them | Feb 24 20:44 |
bruce89 | basically if you have notify-osd, you need indicator-applet for it to work | Feb 24 20:44 |
DaemonFC | "Your torrent is done! Now I'm going to sit here until you click on me!!!" | Feb 24 20:44 |
bruce89 | I mean to cover the same stuff that notification-daemon did | Feb 24 20:44 |
fewa | "Delusions of grandeur prevent honest discussion of problems" | Feb 24 20:44 |
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bruce89 | DaemonFC: yes, I can understand that certainly | Feb 24 20:45 |
bruce89 | I like gnome-shell's system of a sort of queue thing | Feb 24 20:45 |
bruce89 | because I suppose the problem with notifications at the moment is that they are transient, and if you're not watching them, they're gone, and you may not realise | Feb 24 20:46 |
DaemonFC | would be nice if there was a priority system | Feb 24 20:47 |
DaemonFC | so the uninteresting ones die | Feb 24 20:47 |
DaemonFC | and the urgent ones stay up | Feb 24 20:47 |
bruce89 | the spec has that, but nothing seems to use it | Feb 24 20:47 |
DaemonFC | "So and so has come online" *fades away* | Feb 24 20:48 |
DaemonFC | "Your torrent is done" *fades away* | Feb 24 20:48 |
DaemonFC | "Your system has recovered from a serious kernel error!" *stays up until user responds* | Feb 24 20:48 |
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DaemonFC | I'm sure F13 will have it | Feb 24 20:49 |
bruce89 | oh it will, soonish | Feb 24 20:49 |
DaemonFC | Fedora has gotten much more usable than it used to be | Feb 24 20:49 |
DaemonFC | even has a nice LiveCD | Feb 24 20:49 |
DaemonFC | a little competition is good for the soul :) | Feb 24 20:49 |
bruce89 | I've been very pleased with it certainly | Feb 24 20:49 |
bruce89 | more than I thought I was going to | Feb 24 20:49 |
DaemonFC | the fact that the LiveCD guts all the crappy stuff out brings Fedora up in my opinion | Feb 24 20:50 |
DaemonFC | Let the user choose what ends up installed. What a concept. | Feb 24 20:50 |
bruce89 | I'm not sure if I understand why OpenJDK is on the LiveCD | Feb 24 20:51 |
DaemonFC | beats having Mono there | Feb 24 20:51 |
DaemonFC | makes Runescape work by deefault | Feb 24 20:51 |
DaemonFC | yay | Feb 24 20:51 |
bruce89 | ah, hadn't thought of that | Feb 24 20:51 |
DaemonFC | The funny thing is that Fedora Unity group making updated installation ISOs | Feb 24 20:52 |
DaemonFC | but they download is so slow that you should just grab the LiveCD from Fedora instead and get the updates separately | Feb 24 20:52 |
DaemonFC | *the | Feb 24 20:53 |
bruce89 | I must admit I don't know much about Fedora's infrastrcture | Feb 24 20:53 |
DaemonFC | I use the test updates anyway and vote on if they blew up my system B-) | Feb 24 20:53 |
DaemonFC | I usually look at the feedback others have left before I install them though | Feb 24 20:54 |
DaemonFC | I don't like an unbootable system | Feb 24 20:54 |
DaemonFC | I also slap a lot of things in straight from the build system | Feb 24 20:55 |
DaemonFC | I'm using Mesa and libdrm out of the Fedora 13 branch for example | Feb 24 20:55 |
DaemonFC | lol | Feb 24 20:55 |
bruce89 | yikes, | Feb 24 20:56 |
bruce89 | I'm currently on F13 (I hope) | Feb 24 20:56 |
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DaemonFC | how did you get there? | Feb 24 20:56 |
DaemonFC | you should have used fedora-release 0.13.5 or later | Feb 24 20:57 |
DaemonFC | if you used 0.13.3, I know that sends you to Rawhide | Feb 24 20:57 |
DaemonFC | have fun with early Fedora 14 branch :) | Feb 24 20:57 |
bruce89 | yes, I think I upgraded very soon before the branch | Feb 24 20:58 |
DaemonFC | very easy to do | Feb 24 20:58 |
DaemonFC | I'm going to wait until Fedora 13 is beta-ish before I system upgrade | Feb 24 20:58 |
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bruce89 | then there were a bunch of updates, I noticed they said f14, so I disabled rawhide and I hope I'm on F13 | Feb 24 20:58 |
DaemonFC | Rawhide eats babies | Feb 24 20:58 |
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bruce89 | especially at this point I'd imagine | Feb 24 20:59 |
DaemonFC | yeah, it gets very turbulent when a new merge window opens up | Feb 24 20:59 |
DaemonFC | you can be left in an unbootable state easily | Feb 24 20:59 |
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DaemonFC | stay off Rawhide unless you know what you're doing, never use it on your main system | Feb 24 21:01 |
DaemonFC | you never know what it will do :) | Feb 24 21:01 |
bruce89 | I'll keep that in mind for the future | Feb 24 21:02 |
DaemonFC | if you want to test Fedora 13, I'd wait for some real installation media, like when the Fedora 13 Alpha ISOs are out | Feb 24 21:02 |
DaemonFC | then you know it'll "probably" install | Feb 24 21:02 |
bruce89 | I didn't realise / forgot that F13 was branching early | Feb 24 21:02 |
DaemonFC | might even work too :) | Feb 24 21:02 |
DaemonFC | also, I may end up reformatting anyway | Feb 24 21:03 |
DaemonFC | all depends on if BtrFS is allowed as / | Feb 24 21:03 |
bruce89 | I found rpmreaper rather useful | Feb 24 21:03 |
DaemonFC | if BtrFS is not allowed, I'll just use preupgrade | Feb 24 21:03 |
bruce89 | there's no upgrade path from ext4? | Feb 24 21:04 |
DaemonFC | you can use btrfs now, but you have to boot from the DVD | Feb 24 21:05 |
Omar87 | ٍHowdy everyone? | Feb 24 21:05 |
DaemonFC | and put icantbelieveitsnotbtr on the boot line | Feb 24 21:05 |
MinceR | :> | Feb 24 21:05 |
bruce89 | mm, that's the one | Feb 24 21:05 |
DaemonFC | bruce89, I'm sure there will be a way to convert ext4 | Feb 24 21:07 |
DaemonFC | but there isn't one right now | Feb 24 21:07 |
DaemonFC | and probably won't be when it's an installation option on Fedora | Feb 24 21:07 |
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DaemonFC | I wonder if I can has jonofs on / by typing in icantbelieveitsnotbacon | Feb 24 21:12 |
DaemonFC | bruce89, What do you think? | Feb 24 21:12 |
bruce89 | very good | Feb 24 21:12 |
DaemonFC | jonofs doesn't try to avoid errors or self heal | Feb 24 21:12 |
DaemonFC | it tries to hide them from the user | Feb 24 21:12 |
DaemonFC | it's expected to be the default file system for Ubuntu for the future | Feb 24 21:12 |
bruce89 | I wouldn't want to switch until it's stable anyway, losing files aren't very fun | Feb 24 21:13 |
bruce89 | I mean, this thing isn't even proper ext4 as sebsebseb would put it | Feb 24 21:14 |
DaemonFC | I'm using Ext4 because Fedora supports it well and it's more of a testament to how little I think of Ext3 | Feb 24 21:14 |
DaemonFC | it has most of the features I like from XFS | Feb 24 21:15 |
DaemonFC | oh well *shrug* | Feb 24 21:15 |
DaemonFC | Ext4 is practically a whole new filesystem where Ext3 is basically Ext2 with a journal, it's obvious there was going to be more pain for early adopters | Feb 24 21:16 |
MinceR | :D | Feb 24 21:16 |
MinceR | ext4 is a filesystem that was designed to be fast, not to retain data :> | Feb 24 21:17 |
DaemonFC | Ext4 with Extents fundamentally alters the on disk format to where the partition is no longer able to be mounted as Ext3 | Feb 24 21:17 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, Ext4 without Extents is still superior to Ext3 and doesn't have the data loss issues | Feb 24 21:17 |
DaemonFC | just make the file system without extents if you're that worried | Feb 24 21:18 |
Ender2070 | reiserfs took the same approach and it worked out | Feb 24 21:18 |
Ender2070 | when you kill files in reiser4, they leave very little trace | Feb 24 21:19 |
DaemonFC | XFS has that feature | Feb 24 21:19 |
DaemonFC | can't undelete | Feb 24 21:19 |
MinceR | and happens automatically on old XFS and ext4 :> | Feb 24 21:19 |
Ender2070 | you totally missed the joke | Feb 24 21:20 |
DaemonFC | are they buried under one of the dancing b* trees in the field of inodes? | Feb 24 21:21 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Feb 24 21:21 |
Ender2070 | only reiser can find the remains for you | Feb 24 21:22 |
DaemonFC | Ender2070, Reiser4 may be merged this year | Feb 24 21:22 |
DaemonFC | around 2.6.36 | Feb 24 21:23 |
Ender2070 | cool | Feb 24 21:23 |
MinceR | what can it do? | Feb 24 21:24 |
DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reiser4 | Feb 24 21:24 |
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Ender2070 | it puts all your bits into atomic boxes | Feb 24 21:24 |
DaemonFC | it still gets DARPA funding | Feb 24 21:24 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 24 21:24 |
DaemonFC | Makes me wonder how Reiser4 would stack up against Btrfs | Feb 24 21:25 |
DaemonFC | "Namesys's benchmarks suggest it is typically twice the performance of ext3 for general-purpose filesystem usage patterns." | Feb 24 21:26 |
Ender2070 | different goals | Feb 24 21:26 |
DaemonFC | hmmmm | Feb 24 21:27 |
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Ender2070 | Fedora 12 now has KDE 4.4 in stable | Feb 24 21:28 |
DaemonFC | yes, noticed | Feb 24 21:29 |
DaemonFC | not using it after stumbling into problems | Feb 24 21:29 |
DaemonFC | outside of that, I liked it | Feb 24 21:29 |
Ender2070 | Current: Rawhide(F14)/F13/F12/F11: kde-4.4.0/qt-4.6.2 | Feb 24 21:30 |
cubezzz | I heard Reiser got beat up | Feb 24 21:30 |
DaemonFC | outside of screwing over my webcam's internal settings repeatedly somehow (even with Flash?) | Feb 24 21:30 |
DaemonFC | I have no idea why using GNOME I don't having this problem | Feb 24 21:30 |
DaemonFC | *have | Feb 24 21:30 |
Ender2070 | where did you learn how to spoke | Feb 24 21:31 |
DaemonFC | fuck you | Feb 24 21:31 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 24 21:31 |
DaemonFC | me fail english? thats unpossible! | Feb 24 21:31 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 24 21:31 |
DaemonFC | hmmm, old benchmarks | Feb 24 21:32 |
DaemonFC | http://linuxgazette.net/122/TWDT.html#piszcz | Feb 24 21:32 |
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DaemonFC | XFS decimated everything else for filesystem creation time | Feb 24 21:32 |
DaemonFC | that's not unexpected | Feb 24 21:32 |
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DaemonFC | ext 3 is a major disk space waster, knew that | Feb 24 21:33 |
DaemonFC | I've never checked how much space Ext4 wastes | Feb 24 21:34 |
Ender2070 | koffice2 in f13 :D | Feb 24 21:34 |
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DaemonFC | See my reply :) | Feb 24 21:40 |
bruce89 | to the point anyway | Feb 24 21:42 |
MinceR | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems says reiser4 has no ACL nor EA support | Feb 24 21:44 |
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DaemonFC | MinceR, It does | Feb 24 21:46 |
DaemonFC | you have to mount it with the "acl" option | Feb 24 21:47 |
DaemonFC | which is one of the defaults | Feb 24 21:47 |
MinceR | whoa... XFS can do snapshots? | Feb 24 21:47 |
MinceR | DaemonFC: ic | Feb 24 21:47 |
DaemonFC | user_xattr for extended attributes | Feb 24 21:47 |
DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFS#Snapshots | Feb 24 21:48 |
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DaemonFC | MinceR, xfsdump and xfsrestore are fairly good backup tools | Feb 24 21:49 |
MinceR | ic | Feb 24 21:49 |
DaemonFC | despite being so simple | Feb 24 21:49 |
MinceR | where does data go while the volume is frozen? | Feb 24 21:50 |
DaemonFC | I've never done live snapshot of XFS before | Feb 24 21:51 |
DaemonFC | I've only used xfsdump | Feb 24 21:51 |
DaemonFC | it's really kind of like tarring the file system | Feb 24 21:51 |
DaemonFC | but it stores some data about the inode layout and preserves all the metadata | Feb 24 21:52 |
DaemonFC | you might want to do that while the file system is not mounted | Feb 24 21:52 |
DaemonFC | when you go to restore it you get an exact duplicate of how the filesystem was when you dumped it | Feb 24 21:52 |
DaemonFC | ZFS is probably more user friendly with snapshots and backups I guess | Feb 24 21:53 |
DaemonFC | never used it for that but I did notice there's a snapshot button in Nautilus on OpenSolaris | Feb 24 21:54 |
Ender2070 | btrfs | Feb 24 21:54 |
MinceR | there's nothing special about offline snapshots | Feb 24 21:54 |
MinceR | i thought it was about online snapshots :) | Feb 24 21:54 |
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_goblin | Good evening people.... | Feb 24 21:56 |
schestowitz | o/ | Feb 24 21:56 |
_goblin | Good people, evening... | Feb 24 21:56 |
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_goblin | People, evening....good. | Feb 24 21:57 |
schestowitz | :-) | Feb 24 21:57 |
schestowitz | Is that some Red Dward skit? | Feb 24 21:57 |
schestowitz | *rf | Feb 24 21:57 |
MinceR | Evening people, good! | Feb 24 21:58 |
_goblin | schestowitz: nah.... | Feb 24 21:58 |
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_goblin | schestowitz: weary with a capital Wear | Feb 24 21:59 |
_goblin | schestowitz: (thats a Red Dwarf skit) | Feb 24 21:59 |
_goblin | schestowitz: "Smooth with a capital smoo" - The Cat, Red Dwarf...series 1 (I think) | Feb 24 22:00 |
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Omar87 | Hi guys | Feb 24 22:07 |
Omar87 | _goblin, hey! | Feb 24 22:07 |
MinceR | hay | Feb 24 22:07 |
Omar87 | _goblin, I hate CM Punk and his straight edge society. | Feb 24 22:07 |
bruce89 | I remember "Weird with a capital Wee" | Feb 24 22:07 |
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_goblin | Omar87: He looks a mess for someone who is supposed to be straight edge. | Feb 24 22:08 |
Omar87 | _goblin, true. :) | Feb 24 22:08 |
_goblin | Omar87: Straight edge wise I'd say Angle is the better contender. | Feb 24 22:09 |
_goblin | "and thats true....thats damn true...." ;) | Feb 24 22:09 |
Omar87 | _goblin, I really loved how Rey Mysterio handed them a nice lesson. Too bad they never learned it though. | Feb 24 22:09 |
_goblin | You watch Luche Libra? | Feb 24 22:09 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Live on http://live.twit.tv now on FLOSSWeekly talking about Webmin. | Feb 24 22:11 | |
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Omar87 | _goblin, uh.. CM Punk is a worthless idiot who thinks he's powerful. While actually without Luky Luke he's so damn easy to defeat. | Feb 24 22:11 |
_goblin | Mexican Wrestling.. its fantastic....try to get hold of a copy of "Worlds Collide" great PPV from the 90's...Im rapidly loosing interest in the WWE....been watching alot of Zero-1 and pro wrestling Noah....Ring of Honour is good and TNA has been good lately. | Feb 24 22:11 |
_goblin | and the recent IWA-MS King of the deathmatch was good. | Feb 24 22:12 |
Omar87 | _goblin, Vince McMahon is a creep. | Feb 24 22:14 |
sebsebseb | I have nearly seen the browser ballot screen :) | Feb 24 22:15 |
sebsebseb | I installed the updates in XP on the family computer | Feb 24 22:15 |
Omar87 | It's obvious that he intentionally planned to hurt Bret Heart very badly to send him a final message. | Feb 24 22:15 |
sebsebseb | it wanted to re boot, but I went away from computer a little bit, my older brother came back, I thought he had gone on computer, which he had. I thought he might be using XP, but nope | Feb 24 22:15 |
Omar87 | He really needs he's butt kicked so hard some how. | Feb 24 22:15 |
sebsebseb | he re booted. and Ubuntu is on default boot up, so back to Facebook in Ubuntu for him | Feb 24 22:15 |
sebsebseb | so i'll see this screen a bit later on then | Feb 24 22:16 |
DaemonFC | Does anyone know where I can download from Jamendo in Ogg? | Feb 24 22:16 |
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DaemonFC | All they offer for download is MP3 and there's no seeds for a lot of the Ogg versions | Feb 24 22:16 |
sebsebseb | well I never thought installing Windows updates would be something I actsaully properly wanted to do, but for this screen well yes | Feb 24 22:16 |
_goblin | Omar87: Vince has always been a creep.....although his on-screen persona sells tickets... | Feb 24 22:16 |
sebsebseb | or maybe I did think that I would want to install updates in the past for some reason that wasn't just security, well whatever | Feb 24 22:16 |
iwmw | DaemonFC: isn't mp3 freely played via plenty of players? | Feb 24 22:17 |
DaemonFC | iwmw, Worse quality, patents, lots of reasons to avoid it | Feb 24 22:18 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC: _goblin I mentioned to my older brother a little while ago, that next Ubuntu would have some proper Facebook features, but he didn't seem to care. Well I guess I just got to show him the features when it's released, and he will probably use that. | Feb 24 22:18 |
DaemonFC | I have zero MP3s on my hard drive, want to keep it that way | Feb 24 22:18 |
DaemonFC | even if they are legal | Feb 24 22:18 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Just submitted a talk proposal for #shift2010 about #Qi's Nanonote and copyleft hardware. | Feb 24 22:18 | |
iwmw | DaemonFC: nice, i've got hundreds of gigs of mp3 | Feb 24 22:19 |
DaemonFC | sebsebseb, KDE has some Facebook applets | Feb 24 22:19 |
_goblin | sebsebseb: I believe next thursday a new alpha gets released....Im going to take a look. | Feb 24 22:19 |
sebsebseb | jono: icons on the sytem menu again :) and I like having a shut down and log out button on the top panel, especially when the Ubuntu Gnome editing removes log out and shut down from the system menu. Anyway I think set up like that, with the me menu and that, 10.04 will be better for my older brother, as long as he uses the features, otherwise it doesn't really matter, it's just Gnome. | Feb 24 22:20 |
DaemonFC | iwmw, I've managed to get it to the point where I only have Vorbis or FLAC | Feb 24 22:20 |
sebsebseb | shame I will have to turn icons on myself | Feb 24 22:20 |
sebsebseb | in 10.04 | Feb 24 22:20 |
iwmw | DaemonFC: it will take a LOMG time for me to get rid of mp3s :) | Feb 24 22:20 |
iwmw | LONG* | Feb 24 22:20 |
sebsebseb | _goblin: not next Thursday as in next week | Feb 24 22:20 |
sebsebseb | _goblin: it's tommorow | Feb 24 22:21 |
bruce89 | don't go to bugzilla.gnome.org, you'll be banned | Feb 24 22:21 |
sebsebseb | for alpha 3 | Feb 24 22:21 |
sebsebseb | iwmw: yes open formats, but in a way, whatever as long as the music plays and sounds good | Feb 24 22:21 |
_goblin | sebsebseb: Thanks for that, Ive been so busy with work Ive been strugling to keep up. | Feb 24 22:21 |
sebsebseb | _goblin: alpha 3 should be pretty good | Feb 24 22:21 |
sebsebseb | _goblin: since it will be feature complete or nearly feature complete | Feb 24 22:22 |
_goblin | I won't be running it in a VM I have a rig here ready to take an install. | Feb 24 22:22 |
sebsebseb | _goblin: oh right well i'll do in a vm | Feb 24 22:22 |
sebsebseb | like I did for alpha 1 and alpha 2 | Feb 24 22:22 |
bruce89 | incidentally Sweden are playing UK at curling | Feb 24 22:23 |
sebsebseb | those vm's didn't last that long, untill some sort of issue | Feb 24 22:23 |
sebsebseb | bruce89: I don't care about curling, altough Scotland started it or something, didn't they? | Feb 24 22:23 |
_goblin | Ive just switched on what I call the staircase rig and 9.10 has 75meg of updates..... | Feb 24 22:23 |
bruce89 | yes, but we're 2 0 down | Feb 24 22:23 |
sebsebseb | well that's a bit of a shame that the second womens skiing got cancalled, since bad weather | Feb 24 22:23 |
sebsebseb | fog | Feb 24 22:23 |
sebsebseb | what's a bit more of ashame though is how I missed the first one, since silly brothers | Feb 24 22:24 |
sebsebseb | well older brother anyway | Feb 24 22:24 |
sebsebseb | oh well I seen quite a lot of down hill already anyway | Feb 24 22:24 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@scotteweinberg in typesetting, spaced en( – ) & em(—) dashes are distinct from hyphen (not 2). En/em is used depending on regional custom | Feb 24 22:24 | |
Omar87 | _goblin, I'm feeling sad for Morrison though. His right leg took a really painful bang into the corner of the ring. | Feb 24 22:32 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] UKIP leader Nigel Farage makes a show of himself in front of European Parliament. #EU http://is.gd/96NEm | Feb 24 22:32 | |
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_goblin | Omar87: It was a work....I think the original plan was for Morisson to give his elimination chamber match to HBK....that was rumbled on the net, so they had to change plans. | Feb 24 22:33 |
bruce89 | UKIP are arseholes | Feb 24 22:33 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @wikileaks LEAK: Microsoft Global Criminal Compliance Handbook that brought down Cryptome available now at http://wikileaks.org/ | Feb 24 22:33 | |
Omar87 | And of course, given that the same leg is already injured, too. | Feb 24 22:34 |
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Omar87 | _goblin, I see. | Feb 24 22:34 |
bruce89 | basically BNP lite | Feb 24 22:34 |
_goblin | omar87: also it was going to be that Batista and HBK swapped brands....that too was rumbled on the net, so they had HBK just turn up at the elimination chamber ppv.... | Feb 24 22:35 |
Omar87 | _goblin, I really wish I could watch the Elimination chamber, but too bad the file is too damn big for me. (1 GB) | Feb 24 22:35 |
DaemonFC | lmao | Feb 24 22:35 |
DaemonFC | if I had to name an American counterpart to the BNP, I'm not even sure the Teabaggers would suffice | Feb 24 22:35 |
_goblin | Omar87: is that because of bandwidth limitations? | Feb 24 22:35 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] didrocks is a legend. | Feb 24 22:35 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] mbudde is a legend. | Feb 24 22:35 | |
Omar87 | _goblin, yep.. :) | Feb 24 22:36 |
Omar87 | _goblin, bandwidth limitation is a nightmare in this country. | Feb 24 22:36 |
_goblin | Omar87: Didn't know that....whats your monthly allowance? | Feb 24 22:36 |
DaemonFC | I can has 250 GB :) | Feb 24 22:37 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] UKIP leader Nigel Farage makes a show of himself in front of European Parliament. #EU http://is.gd/96NEm | Feb 24 22:37 | |
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Omar87 | DaemonFC, You're a lucky bloke. :) | Feb 24 22:37 |
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_goblin | DaemonFC: I have as much as I want. | Feb 24 22:38 |
DaemonFC | I have to go over 250 GB twice in a row | Feb 24 22:38 |
DaemonFC | then I get my account cut off | Feb 24 22:38 |
_goblin | DaemonFC: though I don't see what you would need 250gb for | Feb 24 22:38 |
Omar87 | _goblin, not sure. But whatever it is, it's no more than 8GB's. I think it's 4GB's, though. | Feb 24 22:38 |
MinceR | i have no limit | Feb 24 22:39 |
DaemonFC | so if I go over this month, I get a warning, but if I stay under 250 GB next month, and go over 250 GB the third month I'm fine :) | Feb 24 22:39 |
_goblin | DaemonFC: even though I listen to alot of podcasts and watch bbci, I think I only ever use around 4-8gb per month... | Feb 24 22:39 |
*DaemonFC is hating Jamendo about now | Feb 24 22:39 | |
Omar87 | DaemonFC, you download cars from the internet? | Feb 24 22:40 |
DaemonFC | I wish | Feb 24 22:40 |
MinceR | i would if i could! | Feb 24 22:40 |
DaemonFC | FLAC files are pretty heavy though :) | Feb 24 22:40 |
bruce89 | Farage is a plonker | Feb 24 22:40 |
DaemonFC | ohhh, I has a seeder!!!! | Feb 24 22:40 |
DaemonFC | yayz! | Feb 24 22:40 |
_goblin | Im using Zattoo at the moment, I love it! | Feb 24 22:41 |
DaemonFC | yeah, the path of least resistance is to take the MP3s | Feb 24 22:41 |
DaemonFC | I don't want MP3s | Feb 24 22:41 |
Omar87 | DaemonFC, it seems you have your own datacenter at home. :P | Feb 24 22:41 |
_goblin | Omar87: I think Daemon is a naughty downloader! | Feb 24 22:41 |
bruce89 | sebsebseb: you heard about the BBC closing the iPlayer to non-official things using something | Feb 24 22:41 |
DaemonFC | Omar87, Fedora is pissing me off the least between Windows, OS X, and most other Linux operating systems including that brown one | Feb 24 22:42 |
DaemonFC | I may stay here | Feb 24 22:42 |
Omar87 | _goblin, :) | Feb 24 22:42 |
bruce89 | DaemonFC: heh, that was my thinking when I jumped ships | Feb 24 22:42 |
MinceR | "that brown one" :D | Feb 24 22:43 |
*MinceR has "that blue one" for now | Feb 24 22:43 | |
DaemonFC | I'm not going to call it Ubuntu anymore, I will hereby refer to it as the brown one | Feb 24 22:43 |
DaemonFC | or that brown thing | Feb 24 22:43 |
bruce89 | or what may be "that black one" soon | Feb 24 22:43 |
MinceR | hm | Feb 24 22:43 |
MinceR | actually there are two kinds of "that blue one" | Feb 24 22:43 |
MinceR | at least | Feb 24 22:43 |
bruce89 | I'm just guessing based on my feelings, and MS's comment | Feb 24 22:43 |
DaemonFC | that brown thing sounds unflattering | Feb 24 22:43 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 24 22:44 |
bruce89 | true | Feb 24 22:44 |
DaemonFC | the color of the human theme lets you know what you're in for | Feb 24 22:44 |
DaemonFC | especially in Lucid | Feb 24 22:44 |
DaemonFC | lmao, thank you Creative Commons | Feb 24 22:46 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Patent trolls are financed by traditional investment banks and hedge funds: http://i5.be/awJ | Feb 24 22:46 | |
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DaemonFC | we now have artists uploading straight to the pirate bay | Feb 24 22:47 |
_goblin | UFC to take on streaming sites that offer their PPV's for free. | Feb 24 22:47 |
DaemonFC | that must really burn the RIAA that people aren't even trying to sign on with them anymore | Feb 24 22:47 |
DaemonFC | more money can be made by asking for donations | Feb 24 22:47 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] UFC to take on streaming sites that offer their PPV's for free. | Feb 24 22:47 | |
DaemonFC | lmao | Feb 24 22:48 |
_goblin | Good God.....there are actually people out there who find the winter olympics interesting......you learn something new everyday. | Feb 24 22:48 |
DaemonFC | in the ring? | Feb 24 22:48 |
_goblin | yeah | Feb 24 22:49 |
_goblin | no DQ, falls count anywhere match | Feb 24 22:49 |
DaemonFC | _goblin, Heard it was in Canada, heard I needed Silverlight | Feb 24 22:49 |
DaemonFC | I'm out :) | Feb 24 22:49 |
_goblin | Maybe MS isn't all that bad....its sparing the internet from the olympics since nobody has silverlight | Feb 24 22:49 |
DaemonFC | ugggh | Feb 24 22:50 |
DaemonFC | Fester saves humanity! | Feb 24 22:50 |
Omar87 | _goblin, what was the name of the wrestler who used to dress up like a clown? | Feb 24 22:50 |
_goblin | Doink | Feb 24 22:51 |
_goblin | and you had Mini Doink | Feb 24 22:51 |
_goblin | he was also Repo Man | Feb 24 22:51 |
_goblin | years ago. | Feb 24 22:51 |
DaemonFC | http://www.macdailynews.com/gfx/article_gfx/080724_uncle_ballmer_ideas.jpg | Feb 24 22:52 |
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*bruce89 thanks the BBC | Feb 24 22:52 | |
_goblin | Doink also featured on the SNES WWF game....and that was really the last we heard of him....disappeared around 1992-3ish | Feb 24 22:52 |
schestowitz | I remember Doink | Feb 24 22:52 |
DaemonFC | http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4062/ballmerlizard2zk0.jpg | Feb 24 22:52 |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC: you're obsessed with a criminal | Feb 24 22:53 |
_goblin | schestowitz: they were not the WWF good old days. | Feb 24 22:53 |
sebsebseb | bruce89: _goblin schestowitz hrm update for the browser ballot, but nothing showed yet hrm | Feb 24 22:53 |
schestowitz | He's also your avatar, DaemonFOX | Feb 24 22:53 |
DaemonFC | http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2162/2342649080_0033fb6900_o.jpg | Feb 24 22:53 |
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DaemonFC | rofl | Feb 24 22:53 |
sebsebseb | bruce89: BBC closing Iplayer for Linux users you mean or? | Feb 24 22:53 |
_goblin | pre 1988 and 1998 to 2001 were probably the best years of WWE | Feb 24 22:53 |
MinceR | why is the logo of the other entity that 'eats ideas for breakfast' on the thing Monkey Boy seems to be eating? | Feb 24 22:53 |
DaemonFC | jono | Feb 24 22:53 |
bruce89 | http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/24/iplayer_xbmc_adobe_swf_verification/ | Feb 24 22:53 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 24 22:53 |
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schestowitz | bruce89: I wrote about it | Feb 24 22:54 |
sebsebseb | bruce89: ah ha so no HTML 5 video with OGG Vorbis video? | Feb 24 22:54 |
bruce89 | no, read it | Feb 24 22:54 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, Fake Steve Ballmer ftw! | Feb 24 22:54 |
schestowitz | No | Feb 24 22:54 |
schestowitz | He trolled BN | Feb 24 22:54 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Lernid has just been approved into Universe for Lucid. Rock and roll! :-) | Feb 24 22:54 | |
schestowitz | These are loser who live in the image/shadow of someone else | Feb 24 22:55 |
schestowitz | Like that coward booster of Microsoft, Lyons | Feb 24 22:55 |
schestowitz | Now he's attacking Google | Feb 24 22:55 |
schestowitz | Along with the rest of them | Feb 24 22:55 |
schestowitz | This week in NewsWeeek | Feb 24 22:56 |
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sebsebseb | bruce89: as for that USB stuff earlier, well my older brother bought her a new one | Feb 24 22:56 |
_goblin | Lernid is a python app is it not? | Feb 24 22:56 |
_goblin | Seems like a really great idea..... | Feb 24 22:56 |
sebsebseb | bruce89: and by the sounds of it, it would need to be formatted the old one, with data being lost of course | Feb 24 22:56 |
sebsebseb | USB stick above | Feb 24 22:57 |
sebsebseb | maybe Microsoft were just preperating the browser ballot update, but won't be actsually doing it untill March | Feb 24 22:57 |
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bruce89 | photorec | Feb 24 22:59 |
sebsebseb | bruce89: some sort of net split | Feb 24 22:59 |
sebsebseb | at the moment | Feb 24 22:59 |
bruce89 | never! | Feb 24 22:59 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Having just got up to speed with what Lernid is-what a great idea!Something that I needed, I just didn't realize until I saw it! Great stuff | Feb 24 23:00 | |
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_goblin | Instead of EU Commision banging on about Google, why can't it look at Windows OEM? | Feb 24 23:00 |
sebsebseb | bruce89: so yeah maybe they are just providing the update now for the ballot screen, and then doing the actsaul screen a bit later on, when most Windows users will have the updates for sure. | Feb 24 23:01 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Instead of the EU Commission banging on about Google, why doesn't it look at Windows OEM first? Microsoft Tax is right under their nose! | Feb 24 23:01 | |
sebsebseb | _goblin: loads of people are ignorant when it comes to Desktop Linux, they don't really know what it is about | Feb 24 23:02 |
sebsebseb | some of them will try Ubuntu | Feb 24 23:02 |
bruce89 | lernid depends on gtkmozembed, what on earth | Feb 24 23:02 |
sebsebseb | then get hardware issues and give up on trying to fix, since they wanted Ubuntu to just work like a toaster or a TV | Feb 24 23:02 |
sebsebseb | and if they get issues back to Windows they go | Feb 24 23:02 |
_goblin | Lernid sounds good though - its something I needed, but didn't know until I read Jono's post on it. Very handy! | Feb 24 23:03 |
sebsebseb | _goblin: I am not sure what this Lemid thing is, and yes I read something | Feb 24 23:03 |
sebsebseb | read two or so things about Lemid or something like that | Feb 24 23:03 |
_goblin | Its basically a live timetable of IRC events which will connect you to them when they happen, where they happen. | Feb 24 23:04 |
sebsebseb | oh? | Feb 24 23:04 |
sebsebseb | so it will connect to whatever network they are on? | Feb 24 23:04 |
_goblin | yep and when they are on. | Feb 24 23:04 |
_goblin | nice idea....wish I'd thought of it myself. | Feb 24 23:04 |
sebsebseb | sounds good | Feb 24 23:05 |
_goblin | I am presuming it is a Python app....so I might even have a fiddle with its code. | Feb 24 23:05 |
sebsebseb | I thought it was for education or something like that | Feb 24 23:05 |
bruce89 | it's some quickly thing, it for some odd reason uses gtkmozembed | Feb 24 23:05 |
_goblin | yeah, I suppose whatever the events are....I am not sure if its limited to just the Ubuntu universe... | Feb 24 23:06 |
_goblin | I think Jono needs a pat on the back for that app....good work! | Feb 24 23:06 |
DaemonFC | these distributions need to get rid of their dependencies on Xulrunner | Feb 24 23:06 |
bruce89 | I suppose it doesn't matter, just strikes me as odd to depend on deprecated stuff | Feb 24 23:07 |
DaemonFC | Firefox needs to be demoted to the status of "just another browser" | Feb 24 23:07 |
DaemonFC | Gnome is using gtkwebkit | Feb 24 23:07 |
sebsebseb | No Jono in here at the moment | Feb 24 23:07 |
bruce89 | which is why I'm speaking | Feb 24 23:07 |
sebsebseb | bruce89: ok, but this channel is publically logged | Feb 24 23:08 |
bruce89 | hello!¬ | Feb 24 23:08 |
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bruce89 | not everyone is that bored to read irc logs | Feb 24 23:08 |
sebsebseb | bruce89: true | Feb 24 23:08 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] One problem with Zattoo, it seems when its channels update, it takes focus away from whatever window I am currently working in. | Feb 24 23:08 | |
sebsebseb | however quite a lot of people read these apparantly, isn't that so schestowitz ? | Feb 24 23:09 |
_goblin | Wintrolls can't get enough of em. | Feb 24 23:09 |
bruce89 | hello, hope you get to sleep soon! | Feb 24 23:09 |
_goblin | its like the morning papers for them... | Feb 24 23:09 |
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bruce89 | hello, hope you enjoyed your sleep! | Feb 24 23:09 |
comradekingu | "Secret deals do not satisfy this satisfy this requirement and" from latest rss on the amazon/ms deal | Feb 24 23:10 |
_goblin | you have to be very careful how you word things since they will jump on something they can post out of context. | Feb 24 23:10 |
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_goblin | Right im off to bed shortly..... | Feb 24 23:11 |
_goblin | early start. | Feb 24 23:11 |
sebsebseb | jono: we were just chatting about lemid | Feb 24 23:11 |
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sebsebseb | and he's gone again oh well | Feb 24 23:12 |
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sebsebseb | jono: we were just chatting about lemid | Feb 24 23:12 |
jono | sebsebseb, cool | Feb 24 23:12 |
jono | surprising that a project came out of Ubuntu that wasn't written in Mono, eh? | Feb 24 23:12 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Sarkozy asked for secrecy of ACTA negotiations, was afraid of the European Parliament's views: http://i5.be/awK | Feb 24 23:12 | |
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jono | :P | Feb 24 23:13 |
MinceR | indeed | Feb 24 23:13 |
_goblin | Jono - before I go.....great idea for Lernid.....can't wait to give it a run....didn't know I needed it until I read what it did!....... | Feb 24 23:13 |
sebsebseb | _goblin: you could ask him about the networks | Feb 24 23:13 |
_goblin | ? | Feb 24 23:13 |
DaemonFC | hehe | Feb 24 23:14 |
jono | thanks _goblin! I think it really helps with online learning :) | Feb 24 23:14 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC: or was that you? | Feb 24 23:14 |
sebsebseb | well whatever | Feb 24 23:14 |
DaemonFC | found out how to shake Jamendo and have some Oggs fall out | Feb 24 23:14 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 24 23:14 |
sebsebseb | someone was wondering if it showed other networks | Feb 24 23:14 |
sebsebseb | not just Ubuntu | Feb 24 23:14 |
DaemonFC | Was it me for what? | Feb 24 23:14 |
DaemonFC | huh? | Feb 24 23:14 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 24 23:14 |
_goblin | right im off.....I'll be giving the next alpha a go tomorrow (hopefully) speak to you all in the evening.....and in the words of a great man...... | Feb 24 23:15 |
sebsebseb | [22:59] <_goblin> yeah, I suppose whatever the events are....I am not sure if its limited to just the Ubuntu universe... | Feb 24 23:15 |
sebsebseb | jono: ^^^^ above | Feb 24 23:15 |
_goblin | "Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast" - Arnold Judas Rimmer, Red Dwarf | Feb 24 23:15 |
jono | _goblin, bye! | Feb 24 23:15 |
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sebsebseb | jono: anyway some sort of IRC events program? | Feb 24 23:16 |
sebsebseb | jono: and it does various networks? | Feb 24 23:16 |
jono | sebsebseb, it can load other networks | Feb 24 23:16 |
jono | its in the File menu | Feb 24 23:16 |
jono | but the package right now defaults to the Ubuntu networks | Feb 24 23:16 |
sebsebseb | jono: oh what a suprise (sarcasm). well that's expected really | Feb 24 23:16 |
jono | sebsebseb, no one else is using it | Feb 24 23:17 |
jono | and it is open source, write us a patch and we will submit it | Feb 24 23:17 |
sebsebseb | jono: I don't program | Feb 24 23:17 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft is Dumping on #Michigan , #Kentucky , #Malta , #Gulzar , #DelhiUniversity , and #Jordan http://ur1.ca/nf41 | Feb 24 23:18 | |
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jono | sebsebseb, then it is what it is | Feb 24 23:18 |
jono | :) | Feb 24 23:18 |
sebsebseb | jono: maybe I wasn't clear, I don't have a problem with it defaulting to Ubuntu networks | Feb 24 23:18 |
jono | :) | Feb 24 23:18 |
sebsebseb | jono: at least it's not some sort of search app or browser that's defaulting to Bing :D right well that's happening as well with Firefox. Yes best to avoide using Microsoft stuff, but there are sometimes exceptions to that. Plus I think now days the search engines all come up with pretty much the same results anyway, and that's what people tend to use them for results. | Feb 24 23:20 |
DaemonFC | probably subsidizing state government purchases right now | Feb 24 23:20 |
bruce89 | ugh | Feb 24 23:20 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC: ??? | Feb 24 23:20 |
DaemonFC | gets them trapped in the horrible Microsoft deal for years | Feb 24 23:20 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @zoobab: Sarkozy asked for secrecy of ACTA negotiations, was afraid of the European Parliament's views: http://i5.be/awK | Feb 24 23:21 | |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: La France aurait exigé le secret sur l'ACTA et la riposte graduée - Numerama .::. Size~: 64.56 KB | Feb 24 23:21 |
jono | right | Feb 24 23:21 |
sebsebseb | bruce89: people can use the search enginge they want to use anyway, so not a big deal really | Feb 24 23:21 |
sebsebseb | bruce89: of course there are better ways Canonical could of made money though | Feb 24 23:21 |
bruce89 | have | Feb 24 23:21 |
sebsebseb | bruce89: have? | Feb 24 23:21 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jmcesteves: RT @newsbrooke Reading: Why freedom of information means we can all be journalists: http://bit.ly/dlsIqf | Feb 24 23:22 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] I showed Freda http://blueballfixed.ytmnd.com/ and got my laptop back about 15 min later | Feb 24 23:22 | |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Why freedom of information means we can all be journalists | Bristol24-7 .::. Size~: 45.08 KB | Feb 24 23:22 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: YTMND - Blue Ball Machine (Classic GIF Returned) .::. Size~: 3.75 KB | Feb 24 23:22 |
sebsebseb | jono: alpha 3 tommorow | Feb 24 23:22 |
sebsebseb | jono: rather feature complete? or is it feature complete? | Feb 24 23:22 |
bruce89 | sebsebseb: could have made money | Feb 24 23:22 |
bruce89 | as opposed to !of" | Feb 24 23:22 |
sebsebseb | bruce89: ok I see it now | Feb 24 23:22 |
jono | yep | Feb 24 23:23 |
jono | it is pretty feature complete | Feb 24 23:23 |
sebsebseb | jono: if vm'd alpha 2 now and did all the updates, I guess would basically have alpha 3? and the changes woudn't be much? I did alpha 1 and alpha 2 in vm's and then something happended with them. I'll do a new vm with alpha 3. | Feb 24 23:24 |
DaemonFC | http://www.jamendo.com/get/album/id/album/archiverestricted/redirect/foo/?p2pnet=bittorrent&are=ogg3 | Feb 24 23:24 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 404 Not Found .::. Size~: 0 KB | Feb 24 23:24 |
DaemonFC | where foo is the album number you want in Ogg :) | Feb 24 23:25 |
sebsebseb | jono: Will alpah 3 have the eye candy, new background, uhmm lighter theme? | Feb 24 23:25 |
DaemonFC | all the nice brown proprietary software | Feb 24 23:26 |
DaemonFC | all the nice brown patented software | Feb 24 23:26 |
DaemonFC | all the nice brown non standard GUI crumbs | Feb 24 23:26 |
MinceR | don't forget all the nice brown ties to send m$ information about the users' interests :> | Feb 24 23:30 |
DaemonFC | oh right, but they're using the re-animated corpse of Yahoo as a mask | Feb 24 23:31 |
DaemonFC | don't forget thart | Feb 24 23:31 |
DaemonFC | *that | Feb 24 23:31 |
DaemonFC | like that bug on Men In Black, lol | Feb 24 23:32 |
MinceR | :> | Feb 24 23:32 |
DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnummFLTAYU | Feb 24 23:33 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: YouTube- Edgar, the Bug in the Suit .::. Size~: 114.62 KB | Feb 24 23:33 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] It just wouldn't have crossed my mind to describe "background defrag" as "elegant". | Feb 24 23:34 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @blizzard: Lessig. In person or broadcast. Tomorrow. http://bit.ly/bOLXth | Feb 24 23:43 | |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Christopher Blizzard · reminder: lessig chat tomorrow (thursday, feb 25th) at 6pm eastern / 3pm pacific .::. Size~: 47.25 KB | Feb 24 23:44 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] John Carmack Gets Lifetime Achievement Award http://thepcreport.net/2010/02/preview-of-ubuntu-10-04/ fantastic | Feb 24 23:45 | |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: A preview of Ubuntu 10.04 | The PC Report .::. Size~: 49.34 KB | Feb 24 23:46 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @zoobab: Sarkozy asked for secrecy of ACTA negotiations, was afraid of the European Parliament's views: http://i5.be/awK | Feb 24 23:48 | |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: La France aurait exigé le secret sur l'ACTA et la riposte graduée - Numerama .::. Size~: 66.68 KB | Feb 24 23:49 |
MinceR | end of free speech in absurdistan >> http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-02-23/hungary-approves-law-making-holocaust-denial-a-criminal-offense.html | Feb 24 23:49 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Hungary Approves Law Making Holocaust Denial a Criminal Offense - BusinessWeek .::. Size~: 45.1 KB | Feb 24 23:49 |
MinceR | and half the idiots living in this parody of a country are applauding to that, too | Feb 24 23:49 |
schestowitz | It's also a crime in Germany/Austria AFAIK | Feb 24 23:50 |
schestowitz | I guess you could call anti-AstroTurf laws harm to free speech too | Feb 24 23:50 |
schestowitz | Like some people have | Feb 24 23:50 |
MinceR | censorship in germany and austria is no news though | Feb 24 23:50 |
schestowitz | I resented Mak eMasnic for defending shills from the FTC | Feb 24 23:51 |
MinceR | remember what they did to video games | Feb 24 23:51 |
schestowitz | Lobbyists too should be thrown in dungeons IMHO | Feb 24 23:51 |
schestowitz | http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/science_technology/is+microsoft+behind+google+legal+challenge/3560257 | Feb 24 23:51 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Is Microsoft behind Google legal challenge? - Channel 4 News .::. Size~: 33.53 KB | Feb 24 23:51 |
schestowitz | BLECH. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10458849-16.html | Feb 24 23:53 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: When will Microsoft sue Google over Linux? | The Open Road - CNET News .::. Size~: 169.82 KB | Feb 24 23:53 |
schestowitz | He's linking to that softare patent lobbyist from Gangster Group again | Feb 24 23:53 |
schestowitz | Like every post among 10 | Feb 24 23:53 |
schestowitz | http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/Kate-Puts-Other-Text-Editors-to-Shame-69405.html | Feb 24 23:54 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Linux News: Applications: Kate Puts Other Text Editors to Shame .::. Size~: 53.4 KB | Feb 24 23:54 |
schestowitz | ftw | Feb 24 23:54 |
MinceR | for once, asay has a point | Feb 24 23:54 |
MinceR | (even if he only makes it because he works for canonical which hasn't yet become novell2) | Feb 24 23:54 |
schestowitz | http://techie-buzz.com/browsers/firefox-private-browsing-mode-broken.html | Feb 24 23:55 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Firefox Private Browsing Mode Is Broken .::. Size~: 52.44 KB | Feb 24 23:56 |
DaemonFC | http://www.pcworld.com/article/190191/italys_google_convictions_set_a_dangerous_precedent.html | Feb 24 23:58 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Italy's Google Convictions Set a Dangerous Precedent - PCWorld .::. Size~: 73.23 KB | Feb 24 23:58 |
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