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IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: March 15th, 2010

Ender2070[19:06] <DaemonFC> Ender2070, At least you can realistically use open source drivers on your ATI hardwareMar 15 00:02
Ender2070nouveau for nvidia, provides open source 3dMar 15 00:02
DaemonFCkind ofMar 15 00:02
Ender2070intel provides open source 3d drivers officiallyMar 15 00:02
DaemonFCreally slow Mar 15 00:02
Balrogintel's hardware isn't the best, unfortunatelyMar 15 00:02
Ender2070intel > amdMar 15 00:02
Balrogalso they tried to stifle nvidia with patentsMar 15 00:02
DaemonFCyeah, Intel is OK if you never want a real cardMar 15 00:02
Balrog:\Mar 15 00:02
Ender2070at least intel is openMar 15 00:02
Ender2070the question is opennessMar 15 00:02
Balrogwhat about the whole QPI bus mess?Mar 15 00:02
Ender2070nvidia and amd do not provide any open driversMar 15 00:03
Ender2070amd provides docs so they don't have to spend money writing linux drivers anymoreMar 15 00:03
Ender2070fast or slow isn't the questionMar 15 00:03
Ender2070daemonfc - if you want a real gfx card then you can't fight the freedom fight or you're a hypocriteMar 15 00:06
DaemonFChow is that?Mar 15 00:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Should be “Sued for Breach of Contract” in #Vista7 http://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/14/invasion-of-privacy-win-7/Mar 15 00:07
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Microsoft Should be “Sued for Breach of Contract” in Vista 7 | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 88.02 KBMar 15 00:07
DaemonFCNvidia is the only one without real open source drivers that workMar 15 00:07
oiaohmMost intel cards don't have 3d function.  So fall back on software rendering in mesa.Mar 15 00:07
oiaohmAnd software rendering in mesa has suxed.Mar 15 00:07
Ender2070theres no way you can claim to by open by supporting proprietary hardware vendorsMar 15 00:09
Ender2070[19:57] <DaemonFC> Nvidia is the only one without real open source drivers that workMar 15 00:11
Ender2070nouveau doesn't work? FUDMar 15 00:11
DaemonFCNouveau is crapMar 15 00:11
Ender2070i didn't know intel didn't have working drivers eitherMar 15 00:11
Ender2070idiotMar 15 00:11
DaemonFCreverse engineered, slow, barely functional crapMar 15 00:11
schestowitzWTF? http://www.ydr.com/ci_14636330Mar 15 00:11
DaemonFConly works better than NVMar 15 00:11
phIRCe-BNcTitle: U.S. Supreme Court to hear Snyder-Westboro case - The York Daily Record .::. Size~: 44.51 KBMar 15 00:11
schestowitzThere's free speechMar 15 00:11
schestowitzThese lunattics just do what the bibles tell themMar 15 00:11
schestowitzThey are useful for showing how screwed up religion can beMar 15 00:12
schestowitzSOme sissy can't take it and decides to sueMar 15 00:12
DaemonFCschestowitz, It's against the law to picket within 500 feet of a funeralMar 15 00:12
DaemonFCthat's federal lawMar 15 00:12
schestowitzAh, OKMar 15 00:12
Ender2070ahh that sucksMar 15 00:13
schestowitzDead bodies don't hear thoughMar 15 00:13
schestowitzjust their loved onesMar 15 00:13
Ender2070in Canada, if something violates the charter of rights a supreme court judge will say "unconstitutional"Mar 15 00:13
DaemonFCschestowitz, Westboro Baptist sent some picketers to Huntington to protest a military funeralMar 15 00:13
DaemonFCthe sheriffs dept went out and arrested themMar 15 00:13
sebsebsebDaemonFC: picket what's that?Mar 15 00:13
DaemonFCmade them leaveMar 15 00:13
schestowitzDaemonFC: they stay "fags go to Hel"Mar 15 00:13
schestowitzOr something along these linesMar 15 00:14
schestowitzThe bible says soMar 15 00:14
Balrog"<schestowitz>: These lunattics just do what the bibles tell them" -- no, it's what their interpretation tells themMar 15 00:14
schestowitzThey are sticklersMar 15 00:14
DaemonFCfuck em, the people at the funeral were about to kick their assesMar 15 00:14
DaemonFCthe sheriff did them a favorMar 15 00:14
schestowitzOthers cherry-pick from the scriptures and pretend it's a book of morals :-)Mar 15 00:14
Balrogor thatMar 15 00:14
Ender2070book of morals, lolMar 15 00:14
schestowitzBalrog: noMar 15 00:14
schestowitzMaybe not when it comes to soldiersMar 15 00:14
schestowitzI think they are importantMar 15 00:15
DaemonFCschestowitz, It would be nice if the police would just turn and look the other way while the people at the funeral kicked those peoples assesMar 15 00:15
DaemonFCyou know?Mar 15 00:15
Balrogwell in the scriptures it says that you're not supposed to add to or take from themMar 15 00:15
DaemonFCI wouldn't be bothered by thatMar 15 00:15
schestowitzThey help show what a bunch of nonsense was written by men thousands of years agoMar 15 00:15
Balrog(the scriptures *)Mar 15 00:15
Balrogwell, at least much of it is historically accurate (cf. archaeologyMar 15 00:15
Balrog)Mar 15 00:15
schestowitzScrolls put together by some homophobesMar 15 00:15
Ender2070the bible wasn't writtenMar 15 00:15
schestowitzI'm straight, but I can tell how stupid this attitude isMar 15 00:15
schestowitzThough shall not kill..."Mar 15 00:16
schestowitzAnd then it saysMar 15 00:16
Balrogno, it's self-righteousnessMar 15 00:16
BalrogegoMar 15 00:16
schestowitzKill witches, and gays, and the'non-Chosen-OnesMar 15 00:16
Balrogpeople think "oh I'm better than you"Mar 15 00:16
DaemonFCschestowitz, The Fred Phelps cult is what they areMar 15 00:16
schestowitzThe bible helps themMar 15 00:16
schestowitzIt says soMar 15 00:16
DaemonFCa bunch of abused childrenMar 15 00:16
Balrogin the old testament, in the new testament it says the opposite (pretty much)Mar 15 00:17
Balrog"love your enemy"Mar 15 00:17
schestowitzhttp://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/197056.asp?source=rssMar 15 00:17
DaemonFCschestowitz, Phelps beat his kidsMar 15 00:17
phIRCe-BNcTitle: VirnetX's future depends on Microsoft lawsuit .::. Size~: 73.07 KBMar 15 00:17
DaemonFCand raped his daughters evenMar 15 00:17
DaemonFCthat's why that family is so fucked upMar 15 00:17
schestowitzEwwww.Mar 15 00:17
schestowitzTermite breeding is the sameMar 15 00:17
DaemonFChe also frequently abused drugs and alcoholMar 15 00:18
Balrogthat's twistedMar 15 00:18
DaemonFChe's anything but a "moral" manMar 15 00:18
DaemonFCwife beater tooMar 15 00:18
schestowitzThe queen is making offsprings from genes of its descendantsMar 15 00:18
schestowitzAnd lives for 50 yearsMar 15 00:18
DaemonFCone of his kids was beaten so badly that he's now permanently disabled Mar 15 00:18
schestowitzIt's gross.... they eat them in some cultures... repulsive videosMar 15 00:18
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Ender2070_they plagerized it off of some stone tablets, so it was a bunch of nonsense that was chizzled in by men thousands of years agoMar 15 00:19
schestowitziPad?Mar 15 00:19
schestowitz:-)Mar 15 00:19
BalrogEnder2070: cf. the Sumerian tablets and all the other discoveries of archaeologyMar 15 00:19
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Balrogwhile there probably are inaccuracies, I would not argue that it's all BSMar 15 00:20
schestowitzhttp://www.tuaw.com/2010/03/08/remote-webcam-activation-now-disabled-in-software-that-led-to-co/Mar 15 00:20
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Remote webcam activation now disabled in software that led to controversy at Pennsylvania school .::. Size~: 98.03 KBMar 15 00:20
Ender2070_theres enough to prove the bible was plagerizedMar 15 00:20
BalrogBach plagiarizedMar 15 00:20
schestowitzEnder2070_: all was at the timeMar 15 00:20
Balrog(by our current definition of plagiarism)Mar 15 00:20
schestowitzCopies were derivativesMar 15 00:20
schestowitzYou didn't have to copy verbatimMar 15 00:20
Ender2070_yeahMar 15 00:20
schestowitzYou did a remixMar 15 00:20
Ender2070_a lot of stuff is plagerizedMar 15 00:21
Balrogreuse of ideas was common until the past ~200 yearsMar 15 00:21
schestowitzPeople forget thisMar 15 00:21
Ender2070_copyright didn't exist back thenMar 15 00:21
Balrogremember, reuse of *ideas*Mar 15 00:21
schestowitzShakespeare is a mass plagiariserMar 15 00:21
BalrogyesMar 15 00:21
Ender2070_people are even starting to imply shakesphere was a pseudonym used by many authorsMar 15 00:21
Ender2070_speaking of which, I need to continue my booksMar 15 00:22
Ender2070_lyx kicks so much assMar 15 00:23
schestowitzThere's copyleft, copyright, and copyWHAT?? in ChinaMar 15 00:23
schestowitzEnder2070_: it was built by the KDE guyMar 15 00:24
Ender2070_which kde guyMar 15 00:24
BalrogI'm outMar 15 00:24
Balroggood nightMar 15 00:24
schestowitzI'm still on the lyn mailing lists, since 2004Mar 15 00:24
Ender2070_lyx ?Mar 15 00:24
schestowitzYeahMar 15 00:24
schestowitzlyx-usersMar 15 00:24
schestowitzAnd othersMar 15 00:24
Ender2070_cool stuff but which kde guyMar 15 00:26
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schestowitz[PJ: As best I can tell, they removed the comment, and in fact at the moment there are no comments. But Moody quotes it all.]  http://www.computerworlduk.com/community/blogs/index.cfm?blogid=14&entryid=2845Mar 15 00:38
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Is Microsoft Afraid to Say the “L”-word? - Community - ComputerworldUK .::. Size~: 83.68 KBMar 15 00:38
schestowitzhttp://port25.technet.com/archive/2010/03/09/geeknet-at-osbc-2010.aspxMar 15 00:38
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Geeknet at OSBC 2010 - Port 25: The Open Source Community at Microsoft .::. Size~: 21.76 KBMar 15 00:38
schestowitz"Mar 15 00:38
schestowitzYo Ma Ma said:Mar 15 00:38
schestowitzPOSIX is *NOT* open source per se!!!Mar 15 00:38
schestowitzLINUX is, however :)Mar 15 00:38
schestowitz"Mar 15 00:38
schestowitz:-)Mar 15 00:38
BalrogPOSIX is a standardMar 15 00:41
BalroglolMar 15 00:41
Balrogopen source ≠ open standardMar 15 00:41
schestowitzhttp://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202446091377&Charging_Corruption_House_Impeaches_Federal_JudgeMar 15 00:41
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Law.com - Charging Corruption, House Impeaches Federal Judge .::. Size~: 26.47 KBMar 15 00:42
Omar87Hi all.Mar 15 00:45
schestowitzWatch the video here: http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.5.8/firstrun/Mar 15 00:47
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schestowitzHi, Omar87Mar 15 01:00
schestowitzhttp://www.mv-voice.com/news/show_story.php?id=2552 "Having to demolish elderly woman's home was 'gut wrenching,' officials said"Mar 15 01:01
schestowitzHeh: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/mar/11/barack-obama-democrats-divorceMar 15 01:05
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Barack Obama, I want a divorce | Clancy Sigal |Comment is free |guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 185.28 KBMar 15 01:05
schestowitzMe too! :-)Mar 15 01:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Another Shot Of Jaq Publicity Bingo Win - custom 404 error - http://bit.ly/buorLO #shotofjaqMar 15 01:08
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Shot of Jaq » Shot Of Jaq Publicity Bingo Win! Website Error Message .::. Size~: 24.49 KBMar 15 01:08
Ender2070_politicians, lolMar 15 01:12
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] In the process of figuring out dates to record the second Severed Fifth album.Mar 15 01:14
schestowitzWestern press hypocritically criticised others of censoring. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62D05I20100314Mar 15 01:22
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Venezuela's Chavez calls for internet controls| Reuters .::. Size~: 57.8 KBMar 15 01:22
schestowitzhttp://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/03/14/1551230/Classmatescom-Settles-Lawsuit-Over-Phony-Friends?from=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29Mar 15 01:23
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | Classmates.com Settles Lawsuit Over Phony Friends .::. Size~: 141.49 KBMar 15 01:23
schestowitz:"Classmates.com has agreed to pay up to $9.5 million to its users to settle a lawsuit that accused the social network of sending deceptive emails that made people believe their old friends from high school were reaching out to connect — only to discover, after paying for a membership, that their long-lost buddies were nowhere to be found"Mar 15 01:24
jweyrichgood social engineering. but dumb for this special purpose.Mar 15 01:27
Ender2070_lolMar 15 01:29
Ender2070_before facebookMar 15 01:29
schestowitzhttp://www.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-php-gamescripts1/index.html?ca=dgr-twtrPHP4GamesP1dth-OS&S_TACT=105AGY83&S_CMP=TWDWMar 15 01:31
phIRCe-BNcTitle: 30 game scripts you can write in PHP, Part 1: Creating 10 fundamental scripts .::. Size~: 63.88 KBMar 15 01:31
schestowitzEnder2070_: your puppy writes on your all...Mar 15 01:31
schestowitz[..with urine]Mar 15 01:31
schestowitz*wallMar 15 01:31
schestowitzYo momma pokes you on facebook :-DMar 15 01:32
schestowitzAnyway, gnMar 15 01:32
Ender2070_lolMar 15 01:38
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Some tips for formatting #shotofjaq discussions better - http://shotofjaq.org/2010/03/formatting-your-discussions/Mar 15 01:44
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Shot of Jaq » Formatting Your Discussions .::. Size~: 24.58 KBMar 15 01:44
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Ender2070"Red Hat develops the kernel, Novell develops the applications, Debian does the packaging, and Ubuntu takes the credit!"Mar 15 04:13
WireWulflolMar 15 04:14
Ender2070seems about rightMar 15 04:14
WireWulfyes and noMar 15 04:15
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Ender2070i was just reading a book written by an ex-microsoft free software guyMar 15 04:15
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Ender2070who says ubuntu shouldn't existMar 15 04:16
Ender2070lolMar 15 04:16
DaemonFCWalmart owes me $33Mar 15 04:16
DaemonFCand a temp agency I worked for years ago owes me $12Mar 15 04:16
Ender2070lolMar 15 04:16
Ender2070too bad :PMar 15 04:16
DaemonFCEnder2070, What should I do with my newly claimed riches? :)Mar 15 04:16
Ender2070pay someone who cares?Mar 15 04:16
DaemonFCOddly enough I only noticed cause of a banner ad in HotmailMar 15 04:16
DaemonFCIndiana Unclaimed had a banner thereMar 15 04:17
Ender2070ahhhh!Mar 15 04:17
WireWulftyson foods owes me 100Mar 15 04:17
Ender2070they have that stuff here tooMar 15 04:17
WireWulfi owe the stat 3000Mar 15 04:17
DaemonFCI filled out the claim formMar 15 04:17
WireWulfgo figureMar 15 04:17
Ender2070if i could bill microsoft for wasting my time i'd be as rich as gatesMar 15 04:18
Ender2070royal bank canada owes me $200Mar 15 04:18
WireWulfyou can sue anyone for deathMar 15 04:18
DaemonFCEnder2070, Wish I could got back 10 yearsMar 15 04:19
WireWulfso if i die in front of a computer sue the person who coded the os i am useingMar 15 04:19
DaemonFCI could say "Yeah, but thats CANADIAN dollars, I get $46 US Dollars"Mar 15 04:19
DaemonFCNyaaaaaaaah!!!!Mar 15 04:19
Ender2070lolMar 15 04:19
Ender2070now you'd owe meMar 15 04:19
Ender2070don't tell me our dollar is still less - i know - but 10 years ago i didn't know you're an idiot and now theres a surchargeMar 15 04:20
Ender2070:PMar 15 04:20
DaemonFCnow it's "$46 USD? Fuck, a pizza and a few DVD rentals and that's done for!"Mar 15 04:20
DaemonFClolMar 15 04:20
Ender2070i like your declining dollarMar 15 04:21
Ender2070every year my web hosting gets cheaper ^_^Mar 15 04:21
WireWulfnightMar 15 04:21
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DaemonFCI think it's pretty fucking sad we're almost 1:1 with an economy of 30 million peopleMar 15 04:22
DaemonFCthat's SADMar 15 04:22
Ender2070hahahahahaMar 15 04:22
Ender2070guess whos fault that is?Mar 15 04:22
DaemonFCnot mineMar 15 04:22
Ender2070did you vote for al gore then?Mar 15 04:22
DaemonFCnopeMar 15 04:22
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Ender2070or kerry?Mar 15 04:22
DaemonFCit was 2000, I was 16Mar 15 04:23
DaemonFCKerry, yeahMar 15 04:23
Ender2070oh.. okMar 15 04:23
Ender2070nvmMar 15 04:23
Ender2070i assumed you'd vote bushMar 15 04:23
jweyrichDaemonFC: your economy will worsen, don't be sad today.Mar 15 04:23
DaemonFCEnder2070, Why is that?Mar 15 04:23
Ender2070DaemonFC - the type of person who would want to landmine the border would vote bushMar 15 04:24
DaemonFCno they wouldn'tMar 15 04:24
DaemonFCBush wanted them hereMar 15 04:24
Ender2070he did but if I recall correctly he lied and said he would get rid of themMar 15 04:24
DaemonFCbullshitMar 15 04:25
DaemonFCwell, he might have said itMar 15 04:25
Ender2070i remember people were pissed because of thatMar 15 04:25
DaemonFCbut Guest Worker Program......Mar 15 04:25
DaemonFChang that son of a bitchMar 15 04:25
DaemonFCover that aloneMar 15 04:25
Ender2070lol!Mar 15 04:25
Ender2070who would you vote for thenMar 15 04:25
Ender2070i know you're not voting liberalMar 15 04:25
DaemonFCthat's the sad partMar 15 04:26
DaemonFCthe Republicans are so bad, I amMar 15 04:26
jweyrichyou have to pick the less sucky candidate. ;PMar 15 04:26
Ender2070i dont vote anymoreMar 15 04:26
jweyrichif there's one.Mar 15 04:26
jweyrichI never did.Mar 15 04:26
Ender2070i used to have faith in the systemMar 15 04:26
Ender2070im only 25 and i've already been bittered by the fact that everyone who gets in doesn't change shit, unless it was something the other candidate would've changed tooMar 15 04:27
jweyrichvoting is mandatory in Brazil, but we have choice to annul.Mar 15 04:27
jweyrichimagine that, if yo don't vote, you go to jail.Mar 15 04:27
Ender2070if i was forced to vote I would write inMar 15 04:28
jweyrichthat's so awesome :)Mar 15 04:28
DaemonFCjweyrich, Turn in a blank ballotMar 15 04:28
Ender2070some countries fine based on that tooMar 15 04:28
jweyrichDaemonFC: no, blank is a different thing, we have choice for blank too. but anyway, it ends up being the same shit.Mar 15 04:28
Ender2070no vote, fineMar 15 04:28
Ender2070pay usMar 15 04:28
Ender2070lolMar 15 04:28
Ender2070pick your puppet is what I call itMar 15 04:29
Ender2070or pick your dictatorMar 15 04:29
jweyrichyeah, we have to pay if we don't vote. if you don't vote for 3 consecutive years, they arrest you.Mar 15 04:29
Ender2070LOLMar 15 04:29
jweyrichand you lose id, etc.Mar 15 04:29
jweyrichq: who are you? a: nobody, actually.Mar 15 04:29
Ender2070does that have the psychological effect of forcing people to keep up with the "issues"Mar 15 04:29
Ender2070?Mar 15 04:29
DaemonFCmandatory vote is so they can say you're responsible for the outcomeMar 15 04:30
iantojweyrich: I like your political system ;)Mar 15 04:30
jweyrichlike that Ender2070.Mar 15 04:30
Ender2070ahhhMar 15 04:30
Ender2070DaemonFC - George Carlin had awesome voting logicMar 15 04:30
Ender2070:)Mar 15 04:30
jweyrichianto: </sarcasm>Mar 15 04:31
Ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhkMar 15 04:31
phIRCe-BNcTitle: YouTube- George Carlin Doesn't vote .::. Size~: 111.43 KBMar 15 04:31
iantojweyrich: I'm serious voting is a low turn out in some democraciesMar 15 04:31
Ender2070In Canada, you can blatantly lie during an election and there is NOTHING the courts will do about it - vote them out next time, is what the courts sayMar 15 04:32
Ender2070I could run for mayor, claim to cut taxes by 100%, and not do itMar 15 04:33
jweyrichianto: ok, now take sao paulo for example, its demography is 5 million people at least.Mar 15 04:33
Ender2070i'd stay in power till the term endsMar 15 04:33
Ender2070as prime minister, thats until you call for an electionMar 15 04:33
jweyrichelections are a great thing for money laundering.Mar 15 04:34
Ender2070i should get into the pirate party of canada and run as my town mayorMar 15 04:35
Ender2070i'll cut property taxes by 10% (and then raise corporate land taxes by 10%)Mar 15 04:36
Ender2070buahahaMar 15 04:36
Ender2070"if you vote, you have no right to complain"Mar 15 04:36
DaemonFCEnder2070, Indiana cut property taxes by 50% so the local government can double their taxes or fire all their emergency respondersMar 15 04:37
jweyrichEnder2070: the problem isn't claiming that, is sustaining that when your opponent asks in public.Mar 15 04:37
DaemonFCmy county is doing a little of bothMar 15 04:37
DaemonFCB-)Mar 15 04:37
Ender2070jweyrich - doesn't matter, i don't need another termMar 15 04:38
Ender2070jweyrich - by then all my friends will have received their benefits, i'll be rich and i'll be laughingMar 15 04:38
DaemonFCEnder2070, "We're firing 10 cops, closing a fire station, and only picking up trash twice a month now, but your landlord gets a tax cut!"Mar 15 04:38
DaemonFCB-)Mar 15 04:38
jweyrichwell, I don't know how politic elections work there Ender2070, but here the candidates have to go public and ask a dozen of questions each other.Mar 15 04:39
Ender2070politics!Mar 15 04:39
Ender2070ohhh you're talking about pre-election?Mar 15 04:39
jweyrichyes.Mar 15 04:39
Ender2070ohhh, well you can lieMar 15 04:40
jweyrichso if you can't sustain your claims, you lose.Mar 15 04:40
Ender2070often the public can't even see the numbersMar 15 04:40
Ender2070you can flat out lie and run with itMar 15 04:40
Ender2070like most doMar 15 04:40
jweyrichwell, if you're that good at lying, you're wasting time outside politics.Mar 15 04:40
jweyrich:DMar 15 04:40
Ender2070politics is all liesMar 15 04:41
Ender2070lolMar 15 04:41
Ender2070every politician is out there for their own agendaMar 15 04:41
Ender2070then you have lobbists paying them to add things to itMar 15 04:41
DaemonFCEnder2070, Reverse Robin Hood tax policy. Enriching do nothing landlords by slashing services to the people who rent from them.Mar 15 04:41
Ender2070yeah DaemonFC, thats awefulMar 15 04:41
jweyrichEnder2070: "politics is all lies" <- nice pleonasm.Mar 15 04:42
Ender2070sounds like that one state that wants to charge $400 a year for 9/11Mar 15 04:42
DaemonFCwell, you know, my landlord will get a $700 tax cut per year on this propertyMar 15 04:42
DaemonFCis my rent going down? Fuck no.Mar 15 04:42
Ender2070DaemonFC - your rent might even go upMar 15 04:42
DaemonFCDo I have to deal with the cuts the town is making? YesMar 15 04:42
jweyrichetimology of "politics" and the dictionary already mention "adjective: lie".Mar 15 04:43
DaemonFCEnder2070, I threatened to move out last time he was about to raise my rent, you know.Mar 15 04:43
DaemonFCAnd he decided against thatMar 15 04:43
DaemonFChasn't brought it up againMar 15 04:43
Ender2070jweyrich - politics comes from two words.... poly meaning many, and tics, meaning blood sucking insectsMar 15 04:43
jweyrichlol.Mar 15 04:44
Ender2070plus i'm not psychopathic enough to run for office, I have empathy for other peopleMar 15 04:44
DaemonFCEnder2070, I asked him how many empty units he had, how many non-paying tenants he had to hunt down and evict, and how many he had that paid their rent a month at a time, on time, and never gave him any shitMar 15 04:44
DaemonFChe got hte pointMar 15 04:44
Ender2070lol DaemonFCMar 15 04:45
DaemonFCcounty with 15%+ unemployment (official figure), you know he's not doing wellMar 15 04:46
DaemonFCmass emigration to other states, yeah, you know he's feeling itMar 15 04:47
DaemonFCit's gotten so bad that some landlords have gone bankrupt and failed to even sell the houses they were rentingMar 15 04:48
Ender2070plus, you know how fucking WEIRD indiana is?Mar 15 04:48
DaemonFCyes, I knowMar 15 04:48
Ender2070I saw this show on indiana once and it was trippy, it made no senseMar 15 04:48
DaemonFChow so?Mar 15 04:48
Ender2070hold on, let me think of itMar 15 04:49
DaemonFCEnder2070, I will tell you right now, the 2009 population estimate is bullshitMar 15 04:49
DaemonFCI think we'll shrink vs. 2000 when the census is doneMar 15 04:49
Ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU-DAWveB_gMar 15 04:50
phIRCe-BNcTitle: YouTube- Eerie Indiana Opening .::. Size~: 108.24 KBMar 15 04:50
DaemonFCEnder2070, The southern states are the ones that are growing, eating up the population of the northern onesMar 15 04:50
DaemonFCthat was a kids showMar 15 04:51
Ender2070ROFL :PMar 15 04:51
Ender2070i was a kidMar 15 04:51
Ender2070that's cause your country is being given away to illegal immigrantsMar 15 04:51
DaemonFCyes I knowMar 15 04:52
DaemonFCthe globalization interests want thisMar 15 04:52
DaemonFCso our politicians obeyMar 15 04:52
Ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIbIX9eMoWAMar 15 04:53
phIRCe-BNcTitle: YouTube- WKTT .::. Size~: 118.53 KBMar 15 04:53
DaemonFCEnder2070, I hope there's a real pandemic of something that really is killing people, you know why?Mar 15 04:53
Ender2070LOLMar 15 04:53
DaemonFCThe government will be all politically correct about who gets the vaccinations and save all the AARP membersMar 15 04:53
DaemonFCand the survivors will be too old to repopulate the EarthMar 15 04:53
Ender2070huh?Mar 15 04:54
DaemonFCoh yeahMar 15 04:54
DaemonFCsave those old peopleMar 15 04:54
DaemonFCthey voteMar 15 04:54
DaemonFCit'll get to where they're the only survivorsMar 15 04:54
Ender2070nah i dont think that'll ever happenMar 15 04:54
DaemonFCthe survivors of the plague live another 5 years and die of old ageMar 15 04:55
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Ender2070the survivors of the plague already live undergroundMar 15 04:55
Ender2070along with the seed vaultsMar 15 04:55
DaemonFCWhy does Fedora still use gconf for Compiz settings by default?Mar 15 04:57
cubezzz2you probably should be asking in #fedora Mar 15 04:58
cubezzz2how would we know? :)Mar 15 04:58
DaemonFChehMar 15 04:58
DaemonFCI ended up installing the Mesa files from Fedora 13Mar 15 04:59
DaemonFCso I could get the 7.8 development snapshot without ending up with a totally alpha quality OSMar 15 04:59
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Atlas2070did u reply to me DaemonFCMar 15 04:59
Atlas2070pc frozeMar 15 04:59
DaemonFCnopeMar 15 04:59
DaemonFCyou're weirdMar 15 04:59
DaemonFCyou smell funnyMar 15 04:59
Atlas2070lol :PMar 15 05:00
cubezzz2you using doze? :)Mar 15 05:00
Atlas2070i'm not weird, im smartMar 15 05:00
DaemonFCcubezzz, Who?Mar 15 05:00
cubezzz2freezer dudeMar 15 05:00
Omar87Hi all.Mar 15 05:00
DaemonFCthat's oddMar 15 05:00
Atlas2070no actually had a hardware problemMar 15 05:00
Atlas2070my overclock has been unstableMar 15 05:00
DaemonFCwhy is my CPU at 3 Ghz?Mar 15 05:00
DaemonFCshouldn't it be throttling?Mar 15 05:00
cubezzz2never overclock is my mottoMar 15 05:00
DaemonFC-DaemonFC- VERSION xchat 2.8.6 Linux 2.6.32.9-70.fc12.x86_64 [x86_64/3.00GHz/SMP]Mar 15 05:01
Atlas2070cubezzz2 - you don't have anything new where its worth itMar 15 05:01
DaemonFC*grin*Mar 15 05:01
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cubezzz2we need some nice ARM desktop mobo'sMar 15 05:01
Atlas2070exampleMar 15 05:01
Atlas2070the Q series quad cores from intelMar 15 05:01
cubezzz2I can overclock my p3, I just choose not to :)Mar 15 05:01
Atlas2070around the Q6600 seriesMar 15 05:01
cubezzz2experience tells me it's a bad ideaMar 15 05:01
Atlas2070the cpu chips themselves were identical for the entire lineupMar 15 05:02
Atlas2070they were set at different speeds according to overclocking at firstMar 15 05:02
Atlas2070ie, "speed binning"Mar 15 05:02
Atlas2070thenMar 15 05:02
cubezzz2a little conversativism on the cpu side of things is goodMar 15 05:02
Atlas2070every Q series chip hit every speed they threw at itMar 15 05:02
Atlas2070my Q6600 is the same as the 3.0ghz versionMar 15 05:03
Atlas2070just different clockspeed hardcodedMar 15 05:03
DaemonFCMesa 7.8 is so much better than 7.7Mar 15 05:03
DaemonFC7.7 is flakeyMar 15 05:03
Atlas2070the problem with my overclock is actually my motherboardMar 15 05:03
cubezzz2what's your cpu temp?Mar 15 05:03
Atlas2070ocassionally, it overclocks my ram for some reasonMar 15 05:03
cubezzz2you should watch that Mar 15 05:03
cubezzz2like if it's 100 C that's not good :)Mar 15 05:04
Atlas2070oh trust me its notMar 15 05:04
Atlas2070lol i maintain that shit very wellMar 15 05:04
Atlas2070my cpu is actually warm, not hotMar 15 05:04
cubezzz2hmmmMar 15 05:05
Atlas2070let me get u a numberMar 15 05:05
cubezzz2maybe it's the GPU thenMar 15 05:05
cubezzz2also a poor power supply can be a problem Mar 15 05:05
Atlas2070i've already troubleshooted the problemMar 15 05:05
Atlas2070sometimes my board boots with the wrong ram speed, i simply didnt notice on last bootMar 15 05:05
cubezzz2which mobo?Mar 15 05:06
Atlas2070went from DDR2 800 to DDR2 1000Mar 15 05:06
Atlas2070LOLMar 15 05:06
Atlas2070Asus P5K-EMar 15 05:06
cubezzz2odd, usually ASUS is goodMar 15 05:06
Atlas2070its getting oldMar 15 05:07
Atlas2070could be flaking outMar 15 05:07
cubezzz2I really like Tyan thoughMar 15 05:07
Atlas2070asus isn't made in taiwan anymore anywaysMar 15 05:07
Atlas2070thats when they used to be goodMar 15 05:07
cubezzz2Atlas2070, you know my Tyan mobo is 12 years old? Mar 15 05:07
Atlas2070yeah Tyan is server quality stuffMar 15 05:08
Atlas2070it has toMar 15 05:08
cubezzz2it's the capacitors that kill motherboardsMar 15 05:08
Atlas2070yesMar 15 05:08
cubezzz2the h20 in the electrolyes evapourateMar 15 05:08
Atlas2070sometimes they don't bubble eitherMar 15 05:08
cubezzz2new Tyan motherboards are really pricey though :-/Mar 15 05:08
Atlas2070this one has the gimmicky capsMar 15 05:08
cubezzz2I'm not sure what to get nowMar 15 05:08
Atlas2070"our caps are SOLID, they last longer"Mar 15 05:09
Atlas2070lolzMar 15 05:09
cubezzz2I don't even know which CPU to getMar 15 05:09
DaemonFChttp://www.theonion.com/content/video/taco_bells_new_green_menu_takesMar 15 05:09
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Taco Bell's New Green Menu Takes No Ingredients From Nature | The Onion - America's Finest News Source .::. Size~: 26.54 KBMar 15 05:09
cubezzz2there's no ARM motherboards I can findMar 15 05:09
cubezzz2unless I get a used zaurus or a netwalkerMar 15 05:09
Atlas2070oh wow my cpu is running hotMar 15 05:09
cubezzz2uh huh :)Mar 15 05:09
Atlas207057 CMar 15 05:09
Atlas2070gotta cool that shit downMar 15 05:10
Atlas2070damn stock fanMar 15 05:10
jweyrichtoday I'd buy a asus m4a79t deluxe. but FSB reaches 1600 only with OC.Mar 15 05:10
Atlas2070m4a, fuck amdMar 15 05:10
cubezzz2actually that's not too bad Atlas2070, my P3 gets warmer than thatMar 15 05:10
jweyrichAtlas2070: am3 isn't bad. phenon II.Mar 15 05:10
Atlas2070yes i knowMar 15 05:10
cubezzz2ARM! ARM! :)Mar 15 05:10
Atlas2070i dont really like amd anymore thoughMar 15 05:11
DaemonFCAtlas2070 knows that Taco Bell is 100% awesomeMar 15 05:11
DaemonFCEpic win evenMar 15 05:11
Atlas2070Taco Bell <3Mar 15 05:11
cubezzz2is that a puke? ;0Mar 15 05:11
Atlas2070its a heartMar 15 05:11
*jweyrich prefers starbucks + dunkin donuts lol.Mar 15 05:11
cubezzz2fast food, I dunnoMar 15 05:12
cubezzz2I stopped eating itMar 15 05:12
DaemonFCickMar 15 05:12
Atlas2070arm is gonna do wellMar 15 05:12
DaemonFCjweyrich, Have you ever heard of Diabetes II in Brazil?Mar 15 05:12
DaemonFCJust curiousMar 15 05:12
DaemonFC:)Mar 15 05:12
cubezzz2do you drink pop?Mar 15 05:12
Atlas2070lolMar 15 05:12
jweyrichDaemonFC: sure.Mar 15 05:12
Atlas2070Diabetes 1 can be caused by dairy when you're a baby :PMar 15 05:12
Atlas2070can't claim the moral high ground on food :PMar 15 05:13
Atlas2070hahaMar 15 05:13
cubezzz2I eat steel-cut oatsMar 15 05:13
cubezzz2very good for youMar 15 05:13
Atlas2070oatmeal ?Mar 15 05:13
cubezzz2yesMar 15 05:13
Atlas2070yeah I love oatmealMar 15 05:13
jweyrichcorticosteroids cause more diabetes II than anything else.Mar 15 05:14
cubezzz2it's a bit coarser than regular oatmeal thoughMar 15 05:14
cubezzz2I try hard not to get sickMar 15 05:14
Atlas2070i like my oatmeal thick enough that it will stop a bulletMar 15 05:14
cubezzz2I found a board :)Mar 15 05:15
Atlas2070my gpu is at 57 C tooMar 15 05:15
Atlas207057-60Mar 15 05:15
cubezzz2http://www.protech-ipc.com/ipc/product.asp?PID=317&typeNo=1&subTypeNo=7Mar 15 05:15
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Protech Systems :: POS ::  EF-22LF :: ARM based Motherboard w/Freescale IMX21 CPU/Win CE5.0/ SD/MMC .::. Size~: 67.2 KBMar 15 05:15
Atlas2070weird how close it isMar 15 05:15
Atlas2070ambient temps probably causing my cpu to be warmerMar 15 05:15
Atlas2070intel chips run cooler these days compared to amdMar 15 05:16
cubezzz2I'm 66 C at the momentMar 15 05:16
DaemonFCAtlas2070, Ubuntu is fucking with the shit too muchMar 15 05:16
cubezzz2lm75-i2c-0-4cMar 15 05:16
cubezzz2Adapter: SMBus PIIX4 adapter at 0440Mar 15 05:16
cubezzz2Algorithm: Non-I2C SMBus adapterMar 15 05:16
cubezzz2temp:      +65.0�C  (limit = +120.0�C, hysteresis = +100.0�C)Mar 15 05:16
cubezzz2lm75-i2c-0-4dMar 15 05:16
cubezzz2Adapter: SMBus PIIX4 adapter at 0440Mar 15 05:16
cubezzz2Algorithm: Non-I2C SMBus adapterMar 15 05:16
Atlas2070intel has the stable manufacturing process that's hardly busting their balls for making faster chipsMar 15 05:16
cubezzz2temp:      +66.0�C  (limit = +120.0�C, hysteresis = +100.0�C)Mar 15 05:16
jweyrichcubezzz: why on earth you want an ARM based mother? specific thing?Mar 15 05:16
DaemonFCI wonder if I can file a meta bug report on that since every bug in Lucid is added by UbuntuMar 15 05:16
cubezzz2lol, what is with the weird questionmarksMar 15 05:17
Atlas2070lol whats with the spamMar 15 05:17
jweyrichflood you mean?Mar 15 05:17
Atlas2070yeahMar 15 05:17
Atlas2070alsoMar 15 05:17
Atlas2070to answer ur questionMar 15 05:17
Atlas2070cubezzz2 doesn't want anything faster than his P3Mar 15 05:18
DaemonFCthat's sickMar 15 05:18
DaemonFC:PMar 15 05:18
jweyrichI see, it's good for tetris :DMar 15 05:18
cubezzz2I'm sure you have lots of fun paying for a new computer every 2 years :)Mar 15 05:18
jweyrichCBEA is okay, but not for everything.Mar 15 05:18
Atlas2070actuallyMar 15 05:19
Atlas2070this Q6600 I got 2 years ago and I don't plan any upgrades yetMar 15 05:19
jweyrichmy macbook has 4+ years now.Mar 15 05:19
Atlas2070I almost built a i7 920Mar 15 05:19
jweyrichit's an 2,1, late 2006. 13"Mar 15 05:19
Atlas2070i sold it instead, mobo was too expensive at the timeMar 15 05:19
Atlas2070same with the ramMar 15 05:20
Atlas2070tripple channel DDR3 = expen$iveMar 15 05:20
cubezzz2yeah but I really want off the intel bandwagonMar 15 05:20
cubezzz2for my next computerMar 15 05:20
jweyrichbuy amd?Mar 15 05:20
cubezzz2no x86 even :)Mar 15 05:20
Atlas2070does amd have tripple channel ddr3 yet?Mar 15 05:20
jweyrichhahaMar 15 05:20
Atlas2070or better?Mar 15 05:21
Atlas2070its been like a yearMar 15 05:21
cubezzz2a nice RISC cpuMar 15 05:21
Atlas2070since i7Mar 15 05:21
Atlas2070cubezzz2 - amd and intel are RISCMar 15 05:21
jweyrichbuy a cortex-m4.Mar 15 05:21
Atlas2070if you didn't knowMar 15 05:21
jweyrichAtlas2070: it does.Mar 15 05:21
Atlas2070they have x86_64 instruction setsMar 15 05:21
cubezzz2pfffftMar 15 05:22
jweyrichAtlas2070: you're mixing thing.Mar 15 05:22
Atlas2070AMD was the first to do it with the K5Mar 15 05:22
jweyrichRISC doesn't mean x86 instructions.Mar 15 05:22
Atlas2070it did it better than native x86 pentium'sMar 15 05:22
cubezzz2I guess it's easy to program in assembler on intel then? :)Mar 15 05:22
jweyrichlol.Mar 15 05:23
Atlas2070jweyrich - not mixing it up, they are RISC chips with x86 instructions to make it easier to code for - somehowMar 15 05:23
Atlas2070iircMar 15 05:23
jweyrichok, let me understand, what are you talking about?Mar 15 05:23
cubezzz26502 please :)Mar 15 05:23
cubezzz2I'm seriousMar 15 05:23
Atlas2070http://everything2.com/title/CPU+history%253A+A+timeline+of+microprocessorsMar 15 05:24
phIRCe-BNcTitle: CPU history: A timeline of microprocessors@Everything2.com .::. Size~: 80.82 KBMar 15 05:24
cubezzz2wintel killed the hobbyist programmer deadMar 15 05:24
Atlas20701996: K5 (AMD) AMD's first Internally-RISC x86-compatible processor. Basically a 486 on steroids, and intended to compete with the Pentium. (March 27, 1996) Mar 15 05:25
jweyrichAtlas2070: mips and avr (atmel) don't have any x86 instruction. I guess PA-RISC also doesn't.Mar 15 05:25
jweyrichand they're RISC.Mar 15 05:25
jweyrichmips is completely different either.Mar 15 05:26
Atlas2070I knowMar 15 05:26
Atlas2070All i'm saying is that x86 chips are really RISC in disguiseMar 15 05:26
Atlas2070x86 chips as we see them todayMar 15 05:26
jweyrichah, okay, maybe I misunderstood you.Mar 15 05:27
Atlas2070i know theres other forms of RISC which are more trueMar 15 05:27
Atlas2070x86 needs to dieMar 15 05:28
cubezzz2indeedMar 15 05:28
cubezzz2my point :)Mar 15 05:28
Omar87Heh, what a naive idiot.. :) http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2010/03/microsoft-proves-it-can-go-open-source.htmlMar 15 05:28
phIRCe-BNcTitle: open...: Microsoft Proves it Can Go Open Source .::. Size~: 103.35 KBMar 15 05:28
jweyricharm7 is risc too. ipod runs on it (arm7tdmi)Mar 15 05:29
Atlas2070nintendo ds runs some form of armMar 15 05:29
Atlas2070arm 9 and 7 iircMar 15 05:29
jweyrichthe same one.Mar 15 05:29
Atlas20707 for gbaMar 15 05:29
jweyricharm7tdmiMar 15 05:29
jweyrichhowever, the newer one I don't know.Mar 15 05:29
Atlas2070looking it upMar 15 05:30
Atlas2070Two ARM processors, an ARM946E-S main CPU and ARM7TDMI coprocessor at clock speeds of 67 MHz and 33 MHz respectively. The ARM946E-S CPU processes gameplay mechanisms and video rendering while the ARM7TDMI processes sound output, Wi-Fi support and additionally, when in Game Boy Advance mode, processes what the other processor used to do.Mar 15 05:30
jweyrichmy current cellphone (sony) is arm7, runs java with jazelleMar 15 05:30
cubezzz2http://cgi.ebay.com/Mini-Laptop-7-Inch-Screen-w-400MHz-ARM-Core-Processor_W0QQitemZ220553805813QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLaptops_Nov05?hash=item335a07fff5Mar 15 05:30
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Mini Laptop 7 Inch Screen w/ 400MHz ARM Core Processor - eBay (item 220553805813 end time  Apr-09-10 19:08:59 PDT) .::. Size~: 115.59 KBMar 15 05:30
cubezzz2temptingMar 15 05:31
jweyrichsorry, it's arm9. my badMar 15 05:31
cubezzz2ARM laptops always seem to have tiny screensMar 15 05:31
Atlas2070i'd love to see nintendo go with an ARM + Tegra solution for the next DS handheldMar 15 05:31
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jweyrichnext DS? there will be one?Mar 15 05:33
Atlas2070they haven't announced oneMar 15 05:34
Atlas2070just upgrades on the existingMar 15 05:34
cubezzz2wow, there's one for under $80Mar 15 05:35
Atlas2070i still have the 2004 brickMar 15 05:35
Atlas2070brick as in sizeMar 15 05:35
Atlas2070not as in defectiveMar 15 05:35
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cubezzz2it seems that smartbook it used to describe Linux+ARM systemsMar 15 05:38
cubezzz2a smartbook it is thenMar 15 05:38
Atlas2070i'd dub it a slowbookMar 15 05:39
cubezzz2think about the battery lifeMar 15 05:40
Atlas2070butMar 15 05:40
Atlas2070faster than some windows notebooks back in the dayMar 15 05:40
Atlas2070lolMar 15 05:40
Atlas2070battery life is awesome on arm stuffMar 15 05:40
Atlas2070the speed is only a problem if you need itMar 15 05:41
Atlas2070i wonder how long firefox would take to compileMar 15 05:41
cubezzz2good enough for browsing with lynx :)Mar 15 05:41
cubezzz2were are all stuck in x86landMar 15 05:42
cubezzz2I'm trying to exitMar 15 05:42
cubezzz2P4 in a laptop was a ridiculous power pigMar 15 05:43
cubezzz2oink oinkMar 15 05:43
Atlas2070powerpc would have been niceMar 15 05:44
Atlas2070linus used to own oneMar 15 05:45
Atlas2070it was his main systemMar 15 05:45
cubezzz2lgp doesn't do any non x86 now :-/Mar 15 05:45
cubezzz2but if you are programming your own stuff it hardly mattersMar 15 05:47
Atlas2070yeahMar 15 05:47
Atlas2070as long as the language runsMar 15 05:47
cubezzz2and... there's the Snapdragon running at 1 gigahertzMar 15 05:48
cubezzz2we'll see smartbooks running those soonMar 15 05:48
Atlas2070yeahMar 15 05:48
Atlas2070i wanna see snapdragon + tegraMar 15 05:48
Atlas2070or betterMar 15 05:49
Atlas2070obviouslyMar 15 05:49
cubezzz2I guess Iyonix diedMar 15 05:50
cubezzz2no updates on the news page since 2006 :-/Mar 15 05:51
cubezzz2On 25 September 2008, Castle Technology announced that production of the Iyonix PC had ceased and that new units would no longer be available to order.Mar 15 05:51
Atlas2070http://www.open-pandora.org/Mar 15 05:53
Atlas2070you might like thatMar 15 05:53
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DaemonFCEmpathy just blows so damned badMar 15 06:16
DaemonFCit's like someone decided to clone Pidgin and make it mentally retardedMar 15 06:16
DaemonFCI'm not even going to be politically correct hereMar 15 06:16
Atlas2070dont botherMar 15 06:17
Atlas2070empathy is horridMar 15 06:17
Atlas2070empathy makes down syndrome look goodMar 15 06:18
DaemonFCYou can't turn logging off, there's only one English dictionary and it en-GB, there's no file transfer abilityMar 15 06:19
DaemonFClet's see, what else?Mar 15 06:19
Atlas2070my theory is that they want it to suck ballsMar 15 06:20
DaemonFCAtlas2070, They suck Satan's cockMar 15 06:20
DaemonFC:)Mar 15 06:20
Atlas2070empathy is like a front end to the framework they useMar 15 06:20
Atlas2070its pluggableMar 15 06:21
jweyrichI'm one of the original empathy developers.Mar 15 06:21
DaemonFCso it PidginMar 15 06:21
Atlas2070i think they have or are working on a mono replacement for itMar 15 06:21
DaemonFCand Empathy sucks Satan's cockMar 15 06:21
Atlas2070for ubuntuMar 15 06:21
DaemonFCthey suck itMar 15 06:21
DaemonFCUbuntu sucks Satan's cockMar 15 06:21
Atlas2070empathy uses the telepathy framework, which a mono client could also useMar 15 06:21
Atlas2070bamMar 15 06:22
DaemonFCTelepathy sucks Satan's cockMar 15 06:22
Atlas2070my *theory*Mar 15 06:22
Atlas2070why else push so hard for shit nobody wants?Mar 15 06:22
Atlas2070lolMar 15 06:23
Atlas2070pidgin > empathyMar 15 06:23
DaemonFCCause they suck Satan's cockMar 15 06:23
Atlas2070kopete > pidgin > empathyMar 15 06:23
jweyrichadium > pidgin > *Mar 15 06:23
Atlas2070kopete > adiumMar 15 06:23
DaemonFCjweyrich, Why would you go to work on something that sucks Satan's cock?Mar 15 06:23
jweyrich* = kopete + (* - kopete)Mar 15 06:23
DaemonFCSomething that sucks Satan's cock so goodMar 15 06:24
jweyrichDaemonFC: was just kidding.Mar 15 06:24
DaemonFCahhMar 15 06:24
jweyrichtrollin' for life.Mar 15 06:24
Atlas2070if he was serious he would've unleashed a Diablo-D3 style tiriade Mar 15 06:24
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv2qLOiioPcMar 15 06:24
phIRCe-BNcTitle: YouTube- bill hicks - suck satan's cock .::. Size~: 107.52 KBMar 15 06:24
DaemonFCUbuntu sucks Satan's cockMar 15 06:27
DaemonFCI mean thatMar 15 06:27
Atlas2070well ms = satanMar 15 06:28
Atlas2070so you're accurate atmMar 15 06:28
DaemonFCevery way your system misbehaves or malfunctions, it's something Ubuntu added which does not exist upstreamMar 15 06:29
Atlas2070LOLMar 15 06:29
Atlas2070i dunnoMar 15 06:29
DaemonFCand they will sacrifice your bug reports to MolochMar 15 06:29
DaemonFCand continue sucking Satan's cockMar 15 06:29
Atlas2070they might as well sacrifice the bug reportsMar 15 06:29
Atlas2070there would be more progress doneMar 15 06:30
DaemonFChalf the time they break something else when they try to fix somethingMar 15 06:30
Atlas2070rather than keep layering on top of shitMar 15 06:30
Atlas2070its like they take debian, noob it up, break it a little and then releaseMar 15 06:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Anyone who knows GIO want to help unfreeze my GUI? http://is.gd/aFYnb #gnomeMar 15 06:31
phIRCe-BNcTitle:                   Downloading Large Files Async With GIO | jonobacon@home                     .::. Size~: 25.24 KBMar 15 06:31
Atlas2070lolMar 15 06:31
Atlas2070jono is having ubuntu troubles tooMar 15 06:31
jonoAtlas2070, eh?Mar 15 06:31
DaemonFCjust seems that 90% of what I report on Launchpad goes unnoticed and the remaining 10% gets fixed next yearMar 15 06:32
DaemonFClow quality bug fixing queueMar 15 06:32
DaemonFCor just not enough competent people to fix themMar 15 06:33
Atlas2070jono - [jonobacon] Anyone who knows GIO want to help unfreeze my GUI?Mar 15 06:33
DaemonFCeverything I report ends up being a one liner fix or soMar 15 06:33
jonoAtlas2070, that's not an Ubuntu problem, it is a programming questionMar 15 06:34
Atlas2070GIO is part of gnome is it not?Mar 15 06:34
jonoAtlas2070, yepMar 15 06:34
DaemonFCAtlas2070, The parts of GNOME that Ubuntu hasn't touched don't suck Satan's cockMar 15 06:34
jonoAtlas2070, did you read the blog entry?Mar 15 06:35
DaemonFC(for the most part)Mar 15 06:35
Atlas2070haven't read any of the blog to be honestMar 15 06:35
jonoAtlas2070, :)Mar 15 06:35
Atlas2070just saw the ping hereMar 15 06:35
jonomy problem is that I am using GIO incorrectly and I want to know how to use it rightMar 15 06:35
jonoI doubt it is a problem in GIO, it is a problem in me :)Mar 15 06:35
DaemonFCI'd like to bash Empathy in the back of the head with a shovel and bury it out in the backyardMar 15 06:35
DaemonFCthere's just no redeeming that thingMar 15 06:35
Atlas2070ill look at itMar 15 06:36
Atlas2070ohhhh yes programmingMar 15 06:37
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/03/cracking-open-five-of-the-best-open-source-easter-eggs.arsMar 15 06:37
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Cracking open five of the best open source easter eggs .::. Size~: 28.82 KBMar 15 06:37
DaemonFCArs Technica sucks Satan's cock, but some of these are amusingMar 15 06:38
Atlas2070you're trying to program using/with GIOMar 15 06:38
Atlas2070doesn't make sense that it would freeze thoughMar 15 06:38
Atlas2070it shouldn't be susceptible to bad code, out of principal thoughMar 15 06:39
Atlas2070being gnome technology, im not surprised if its not so easy to work withMar 15 06:41
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cubezzz2only pre-order though :-/Mar 15 06:43
Atlas2070jono - my apologies for blaming ur troubles on ubuntuMar 15 06:45
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cubezzz2Atlas2070, pandora is vapourware Mar 15 06:52
cubezzz2sorry I shouldn't say thatMar 15 06:52
cubezzz2mass production has started evidentlyMar 15 06:53
cubezzz2but they are not shippingMar 15 06:53
cubezzz2case production has not even startedMar 15 06:53
Atlas2070yeah i wish it wasMar 15 06:55
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Atlas2070it could be vapourwareMar 15 06:57
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jonoAtlas2070, no worriesMar 15 06:58
cubezzz2well they say the boards are readyMar 15 07:01
DaemonFCUnfortunately, Ubuntu has chosen to be conservative in features and aggressive in pointless crap that is benign or bugs the shit out of peopleMar 15 07:01
DaemonFCwhen people boot up Ubuntu Lucid, they won't see new stuff, they'll see last year's Mesa3dMar 15 07:02
DaemonFCan astonishing amount of things that work dandy on the current version won't work at all or will be software rendered on UbuntuMar 15 07:03
DaemonFCnot even Compiz works wellMar 15 07:03
cubezzz2for the money it looks niceMar 15 07:03
Atlas2070compiz is fails compared to kwinMar 15 07:03
DaemonFCand it's looking questionable that users will even have a proprietary driver to fall back onMar 15 07:03
DaemonFCAtlas2070, KWin fails harder than Compiz on Mesa 7.7Mar 15 07:04
DaemonFCmight even lock up the systemMar 15 07:04
cubezzz2just more eye candyMar 15 07:04
DaemonFCcompiz is just slow and not all the effects workMar 15 07:04
Atlas2070ive read that kwin works better with older hardwareMar 15 07:05
DaemonFCwell still, there's a ton of stuff that could be hardware accelerated if they had gone with Mesa 7.8 that's not on 7.7Mar 15 07:05
Atlas2070im sureMar 15 07:05
Atlas2070ubuntu sometimes sticks with olderMar 15 07:05
Atlas2070like xorg itself for exampleMar 15 07:06
DaemonFCwell, the excuse that there may be a bug in it somewhere is a piss poor excuse when ythe old version is missing so many featuresMar 15 07:06
Atlas2070lolMar 15 07:06
Atlas2070ubuntu, xorg 6.5Mar 15 07:06
Atlas2070right?Mar 15 07:06
Atlas2070fedora, xorg 7.5 nowMar 15 07:06
DaemonFCyeahMar 15 07:07
DaemonFCI've got Mesa packages from Fedora 13 installedMar 15 07:07
Atlas2070and they work I bet?Mar 15 07:07
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DaemonFCyep, have to --nodep themMar 15 07:08
DaemonFCbut they workMar 15 07:08
Atlas2070ahhMar 15 07:08
Atlas2070i like f13's kdm themeMar 15 07:08
Atlas2070very snazy Mar 15 07:08
DaemonFC[ryan@ryan-desktop ~]$ rpm -q mesa-libGLMar 15 07:08
DaemonFCmesa-libGL-7.8-0.18.fc13.x86_64Mar 15 07:08
DaemonFCmesa-libGL-7.8-0.18.fc13.i686Mar 15 07:08
Atlas2070if it works, it worksMar 15 07:09
Atlas2070im surprised thoughMar 15 07:09
DaemonFC[ryan@ryan-desktop ~]$ rpm -q xorg-x11-server-XorgMar 15 07:09
DaemonFCxorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.7.5.902-1.fc12.x86_64Mar 15 07:09
DaemonFCsnagged that out of Koji too, only 4 patches vs 1.7.6 RC1, but what the hell?Mar 15 07:09
DaemonFCI have it a few days earlMar 15 07:09
DaemonFC*earlyMar 15 07:09
Atlas2070you know what Koji is :)Mar 15 07:09
DaemonFCyesMar 15 07:10
Atlas2070a very badassed build farmMar 15 07:10
DaemonFCa build system for what ends up in updatesMar 15 07:10
Atlas2070yeahMar 15 07:10
Atlas2070very fast thoughMar 15 07:10
DaemonFCanyhow, Mesa 7.7 sucks Satan's cockMar 15 07:10
DaemonFCand Mesa 7.8 pwns itMar 15 07:10
DaemonFC:)Mar 15 07:11
Atlas2070yesMar 15 07:11
Atlas2070usually newer = betterMar 15 07:11
Atlas2070unless newer = beta/alphaMar 15 07:11
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DaemonFCit's mostly performance and reliability, only like 1 new OpenGL extension for RadeonHD thoughMar 15 07:11
DaemonFCbut all this stuff that wasn't working quite right or was real slow works nowMar 15 07:12
DaemonFCso that's nice to haveMar 15 07:12
Atlas2070yeahMar 15 07:12
DaemonFCin 6 months, 3d acceleration went from not working at all on my card to more or less workingMar 15 07:13
Atlas2070i dont like that its taking so longMar 15 07:14
Atlas2070even nvidia works, with proprietary mind youMar 15 07:14
DaemonFCwell yeahMar 15 07:14
Atlas2070my friend ran into that shit all the time with his ati card tooMar 15 07:15
Atlas2070"oh i cant try that distro, xorg is too new"Mar 15 07:15
Atlas2070bsMar 15 07:15
DaemonFCI really hate their binary driverMar 15 07:15
Atlas2070that was when neither had open source driversMar 15 07:15
DaemonFCby the time they support Fedora 12, it'll nearly be EOLMar 15 07:15
Atlas2070ati's binary driver is the worstMar 15 07:15
Atlas2070everMar 15 07:15
Atlas2070closed drivers, nvidia winsMar 15 07:16
Atlas2070open drivers, ati wins, for nowMar 15 07:16
DaemonFCthey're too busy sucking Satan's cock and porting over Direct2d to worry about being 8 months behind X.orgMar 15 07:16
DaemonFC:)Mar 15 07:16
Atlas2070nouveau is catching up fast for devs who don't have the priviledge of having docsMar 15 07:16
DaemonFCI just don't see why they're working on Nouveau at allMar 15 07:17
DaemonFCquite adding value to Satan's little cock suckersMar 15 07:17
DaemonFCand help out with the ati driverMar 15 07:17
DaemonFC:)Mar 15 07:17
Atlas2070nvidia hardware is just as bad as atiMar 15 07:17
Atlas2070ati cant afford to keep up on linux so they give up, gave the docs away hoping someone else would shut up the usersMar 15 07:18
DaemonFCwell, at least the specs are out there and drivers are coming along faster than Nvidia'sMar 15 07:18
Atlas2070nouveau is pretty new actuallyMar 15 07:18
Atlas2070i think they'll achieve more progressMar 15 07:18
DaemonFCNouveau has been around since at least 2008Mar 15 07:19
DaemonFCaround May I thinkMar 15 07:19
Atlas2070development picked up quickly thoughMar 15 07:19
DaemonFCI did some Renouveau dumps when I had an Nvidia cardMar 15 07:19
Atlas2070especially once news hit, and when F11 hitMar 15 07:19
Atlas2070a few weeks after kernel inclusion they got 3D workingMar 15 07:20
Atlas2070anyone without KMS isn't worth usingMar 15 07:20
Atlas2070anything*Mar 15 07:20
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Atlas2070KMS is more than flicker free bootMar 15 07:21
Atlas2070its also about not running xorg as root anymoreMar 15 07:22
Atlas2070among other improvementsMar 15 07:22
DaemonFCthe open source ATI driver is far less likely to crash and it's far less likely to have security holes, and it's much faster than FGLRX in many important waysMar 15 07:22
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DaemonFCthe bad part about the open source stack is that Mesa only support OpenGL 2.0 as of yetMar 15 07:22
Atlas2070i've had no issue with nouveauMar 15 07:22
DaemonFCbut that will change by the next Mesa releaseMar 15 07:23
Atlas2070it'll get betterMar 15 07:23
Atlas2070F13 will have my 3d nouveau supportMar 15 07:23
Atlas2070which ill use for kwin effectsMar 15 07:23
Atlas2070i dont really game on the pc anymoreMar 15 07:24
DaemonFCIt already does if you install F13's Mesa packages, Nouveau driver, and kernel on F12Mar 15 07:24
DaemonFClolMar 15 07:24
DaemonFCI would be one to do something like thatMar 15 07:24
Atlas2070im probably going to just install F13Mar 15 07:24
DaemonFCyou go for an alpha system you have bugs and broken things all over the placeMar 15 07:24
DaemonFCsoemthing may even happen to make the system unbootableMar 15 07:25
Atlas2070im not afraidMar 15 07:25
DaemonFCI'd rather just be surgical about it and do a package transplantMar 15 07:25
DaemonFC:PMar 15 07:25
Atlas2070ill use btrfs too and snapshot when stuff works :)Mar 15 07:25
DaemonFCyeah, well, they'll need to use GRUB 2 before that happensMar 15 07:26
DaemonFCGRUB gets cranky if you're not using Ext2/3/4 on your boot partitionMar 15 07:26
Atlas2070ummMar 15 07:26
Atlas2070does that stop me from using ext2 for my boot partition?Mar 15 07:26
Atlas2070not reallyMar 15 07:26
DaemonFCif that's how you want it, set it up like thatMar 15 07:27
DaemonFCI'm just not a great fan of GRUBMar 15 07:27
Atlas2070i usually have a seperate boot partitionMar 15 07:27
cubezzz2what else are you going to use?Mar 15 07:27
Atlas2070lilo *snicker*Mar 15 07:27
DaemonFCGRUB 2 is fineMar 15 07:27
Atlas2070F13 on my desktop isnt buggy and broken like you make it soundMar 15 07:28
DaemonFCwouldn't even install when I tried itMar 15 07:28
DaemonFC"unhandled exception" right after partitioningMar 15 07:29
Atlas2070lolMar 15 07:29
Atlas2070guess thats a problem thenMar 15 07:29
Atlas2070for youMar 15 07:29
Atlas2070i notice the installer received an upgradeMar 15 07:29
DaemonFCwell, can't upgrade eitherMar 15 07:29
Atlas2070nahMar 15 07:29
DaemonFCmissing dependenciesMar 15 07:29
Atlas2070they changed the installer, i meanMar 15 07:29
DaemonFCyes I noticedMar 15 07:29
Atlas2070f11 and f12 had the same oneMar 15 07:30
Atlas2070from what I could tellMar 15 07:30
DaemonFCbeats Ubuntu's installer......"SUCK SATAN'S COCK!!!!!! 35 GB of SWAP FOR YOU!!!! BHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!"Mar 15 07:30
Atlas2070im sure there were some bug fixes between versionsMar 15 07:30
DaemonFCI have 8 gigs of RAM :)Mar 15 07:30
Atlas207035 gb of swap?Mar 15 07:30
Atlas2070wtfMar 15 07:30
DaemonFCyeah, the thing is fucking crazyMar 15 07:30
Atlas2070with 8gb of ram you dont need swapMar 15 07:31
DaemonFCI knowMar 15 07:31
DaemonFCtell them thatMar 15 07:31
Atlas2070wellMar 15 07:31
DaemonFCthey think I need 35 GBMar 15 07:31
Atlas2070technically you need some since you're non-eccMar 15 07:31
Atlas2070but thats for serversMar 15 07:31
cubezzz2zaurus doesn't use grub eitherMar 15 07:31
Atlas207035gb, holy shitMar 15 07:31
DaemonFC35 GB? Really? REALLY????? jono_ ? REALLY?Mar 15 07:31
Atlas2070i cant believe thatMar 15 07:31
DaemonFC35?Mar 15 07:32
Atlas2070i wanna see a screenshotMar 15 07:32
Atlas2070thats unrealMar 15 07:32
DaemonFCI'm telling youMar 15 07:32
DaemonFCI think they just do RAM times something or otherMar 15 07:32
DaemonFCit's stupidMar 15 07:32
Atlas2070sounds like windowsMar 15 07:32
Atlas2070i've heard rumors it lets you set 0 if u have eccMar 15 07:33
cubezzz2what a colossal insultMar 15 07:33
cubezzz2;-)Mar 15 07:33
DaemonFCit took Windows until 2009 to figure out that a separate boot partition makes sense sometimesMar 15 07:33
DaemonFC:)Mar 15 07:34
jono_DaemonFC, what?Mar 15 07:34
DaemonFCcubezzz, It sucks Satan's cock is what it does.Mar 15 07:34
DaemonFCtechnical explanation thereMar 15 07:34
Atlas2070dont think jono is going to take you seriouslyMar 15 07:35
DaemonFCjono_, I suspect your installer is trying to make stupid assumptions about SWAP file sizes by carrying over calculations that make sense if someone has 1-2 GB of RAMMar 15 07:35
DaemonFCAtlas2070, those types take nothing seriously except their Vogon rulesMar 15 07:36
Atlas2070heyMar 15 07:37
Atlas2070he might sing poetryMar 15 07:37
Atlas2070sssshhhhhhMar 15 07:37
Atlas2070hmmmMar 15 07:37
Atlas2070perhaps your bug reports weren't filed in triplicate ?Mar 15 07:37
DaemonFCperhaps notMar 15 07:38
DaemonFC"Oh freddled gruntbuggly?thy micturations are to me/As plurdled gabbleblotchis on a lurgid bee. Groop I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes. And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,/ Or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't!"Mar 15 07:39
DaemonFCAtlas2070, Speaking of some officious bureaucracyMar 15 07:42
DaemonFCI'm going to have to get my $46 claim notorizedMar 15 07:43
DaemonFCsign itMar 15 07:43
DaemonFCand mail it inMar 15 07:43
DaemonFCbut fuck if I'll let Walmart and that temp agency keep my $46!Mar 15 07:43
DaemonFCMINE!!!!!Mar 15 07:43
DaemonFCwhat shall I spend my $46 on?Mar 15 07:44
DaemonFCShould I get one $46 hookerbot or 46 $1 hookerbots?Mar 15 07:44
DaemonFCAtlas2070, There's a project to extend Windows 9x to run Windows XP > softwareMar 15 08:06
DaemonFChehMar 15 08:06
DaemonFCwouldn't it be easier to just not use Windows 9x? Mar 15 08:06
DaemonFCI'm sure Wine is at least capable enough to exceed their Windows 9x extensionsMar 15 08:06
Atlas2070im going to patent robot hookersMar 15 08:20
Atlas2070bam, $billionsMar 15 08:20
Atlas2070you know how many depraved people would do thatMar 15 08:20
Atlas2070do robotsMar 15 08:21
Atlas2070you probably would DaemonFCMar 15 08:21
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DaemonFCAtlas2070, new FGLRX any day now actuallyMar 15 08:35
DaemonFCany bets on what it breaks this time?Mar 15 08:35
Atlas2070with any luck it punches you in the faceMar 15 08:37
*Atlas2070 crunches DaemonFC in the faceMar 15 08:38
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Apple 's and #Microsoft 's #Patent Attacks and Why the @LinuxFoundation 's Response Disappoints http://ur1.ca/ps46Mar 15 08:46
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Ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8Q8M0u6CnEMar 15 08:48
phIRCe-BNcTitle: YouTube- Alan Watt - Predictive Programming .::. Size~: 113.97 KBMar 15 08:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Groklaw: #Microsoft “Wants to Do More #Novell -style #Patent Deals” http://ur1.ca/ps66 #apache #swpatsMar 15 09:05
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Groklaw: Microsoft “Wants to Do More Novell-style Patent Deals” | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 93 KBMar 15 09:05
Ender2070alex jones IS a fake, hahahahaMar 15 09:21
Ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TACalwg360cMar 15 09:21
phIRCe-BNcTitle: YouTube- Alex Jones Crashes Austin Pro Gun Rally, Then Lies About It On His Show .::. Size~: 121.14 KBMar 15 09:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #SXSW Used by #Microsoft as Platform to Hypocritically Slam #Google http://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/15/sxsw-google-fud-danah-boyd/ #fudMar 15 09:22
phIRCe-BNcTitle: SXSW Used by Microsoft as Platform to Hypocritically Slam Google | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 89.54 KBMar 15 09:22
cubezzz2I must admit I still am not 100% sure what a D-Bus call isMar 15 09:28
cubezzz2Ender2070, are you still up?Mar 15 09:28
Ender2070yesMar 15 09:29
Ender2070going to bed soon thoughMar 15 09:30
cubezzz2any idea how to make ctrl-alt-d = go to desktop ? :)Mar 15 09:30
cubezzz2in kde 4.4Mar 15 09:30
Ender2070did you look in system-toolsMar 15 09:30
Ender2070errMar 15 09:30
Ender2070system settingsMar 15 09:30
cubezzz2yeah, like a million timesMar 15 09:30
Ender2070ask in #fedora-kdeMar 15 09:31
cubezzz2ok :)Mar 15 09:31
DaemonFCI'm going to have to go to the library, my bank, and the post officeMar 15 09:31
DaemonFCto get my $46Mar 15 09:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @DaemonFC thanks for the linkMar 15 09:33
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] I was going to warn you off using "calling a spade a spade" Looked before I leaped, turns out it is not racist but mistranslation from GreekMar 15 09:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] EPO lost money with the bankrupcy of the Icelandic Kaupthing bank? Read page 13 item 414 362.402.825 ISK == 2 Million EUR http://i5.be/aBYMar 15 09:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] DW: Live in a mud hut. http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/30994.htmlMar 15 10:05
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schestowitzThere might be a Windows security campaign soon.Mar 15 10:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Huffington Post, Technologizer, and Other Web Sites in Bill’s Pocket http://ur1.ca/psih #corruption #PravdaMar 15 10:17
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schestowitz"I'm looking at  starting a "Call out Windows" campaign that should be more fun and better for  everyone.  "Mar 15 10:17
schestowitz"Hmmm, don't hold off if you find info. I won't have time to look more till  late tonight and was hoping you would follow some of the leads and flesh  things out in IRC. The "Call out Windows" campaign is something different that came from an email  conversation with Richard Stallman.  I will copy you on that email."Mar 15 10:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] I too wanna go @google :) RT: @bryanwb: good news, Tim Bray (father of XML) has left sun/oracle for google http://goo.gl/D6zl !Mar 15 10:25
phIRCe-BNcTitle: ongoing by Tim Bray · Now A No-Evil Zone .::. Size~: 15.57 KBMar 15 10:25
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schestowitz"@schestowitz i wonder who, besides canonical, is most likely to give in / sell out to microsoft's treachery." http://identi.ca/notice/24808958Mar 15 10:49
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/geddes "web manager at council on foreign relations"Mar 15 11:02
phIRCe-BNcTitle: geddes munson (geddes) on Twitter .::. Size~: 39.19 KBMar 15 11:02
schestowitzThis person has just pinged BN re MSFTMar 15 11:03
schestowitzhttp://www.fsdaily.com/Business/The_best_way_to_reduce_software_piracy "Did this really need to be spread out over five pages?"Mar 15 11:09
schestowitzWhy do sites still do this sometimesMar 15 11:09
schestowitz?Mar 15 11:09
phIRCe-BNcTitle: The best way to reduce software 'piracy' | fsdaily.com - Free Software News .::. Size~: 32.48 KBMar 15 11:09
phIRCe-BNc?Mar 15 11:09
schestowitzIt's not a newspaperMar 15 11:09
schestowitzphIRCe buggeration...Mar 15 11:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] More pressure brought on business models by advertisement blocking programmes. I recommend Adblock Plus. http://is.gd/aHeBKMar 15 11:15
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Ad-blocking software stops pop-ups – but does it also block profit? |Media |The Guardian .::. Size~: 89.09 KBMar 15 11:15
schestowitzPeople call sites that don't like "Spam" http://www.fsdaily.com/Beginner/Control_Your_Childrens_Internet_Access_with_Gnome_Nanny_in_Ubuntu_Debian#comment-5813Mar 15 11:15
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Control Your Children's Internet Access with Gnome Nanny in Ubuntu / Debian | fsdaily.com - Free Software News .::. Size~: 32.85 KBMar 15 11:15
schestowitzNew definition for "Spam" every dayMar 15 11:15
schestowitzLike "terrorism" and "piracy".... being anything you disagree withMar 15 11:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @satipera smart audicneces don't click on ads anywayMar 15 11:17
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] More pressure brought on business models by advertisement blocking programmes. I recommend Adblock Plus. http://is.gd/aHeBKMar 15 11:17
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Obama supports #RIAA #MPAA and #ACTA, can't we impeach him already? http://ur1.ca/ph43 #douchebagMar 15 11:17
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Ad-blocking software stops pop-ups – but does it also block profit? |Media |The Guardian .::. Size~: 88.78 KBMar 15 11:17
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oiaohmhttp://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1236Mar 15 11:20
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oiaohmHmmMar 15 11:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @diablod3 #Obama supports #RIAA #MPAA and #ACTA,Mar 15 11:21
schestowitzoiaohm: not newsMar 15 11:21
Diablo-D3oiaohm: not news, and this has been planned for awhileMar 15 11:22
schestowitzoiaohm: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/03/06/nokia-tablet-silverlight/Mar 15 11:22
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Will Nokias Linux-based Internet Tablets Soon Be Infected by Mono, XAML? What About Qt? | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 108.84 KBMar 15 11:22
cubezzz2and whoever eventually replaces him will probably also support RIAA MPAA and ACTAMar 15 11:22
schestowitzDiablo-D3: the article too is oldMar 15 11:22
schestowitzMary Jo Folly [sic]Mar 15 11:23
cubezzz2it's either than or start making stuff againMar 15 11:23
schestowitzcubezzz2: yesMar 15 11:23
schestowitzOtherwise he would not be electedMar 15 11:23
schestowitzWhat makes a good US presidential condidate:Mar 15 11:23
Diablo-D3microsoft wants fleshlight on all platformsMar 15 11:23
schestowitz1) Looks like he serves the peopleMar 15 11:23
Diablo-D3oops, I mean silverlightMar 15 11:23
Diablo-D3dohohohohoMar 15 11:23
schestowitz2) Serves the big banksMar 15 11:23
cubezzz2hehMar 15 11:23
schestowitz2) Serves the monopolies that actually produce some 'goods'Mar 15 11:23
schestowitz^3Mar 15 11:24
schestowitz4) support the Military Industrial Complex, i.e. warMar 15 11:24
cubezzz2I remember not long ago asking people in a shoe store for "shoes made in Canada"Mar 15 11:24
oiaohmI noticed the words some symbian phones.  Not all.Mar 15 11:24
cubezzz2they just stared at meMar 15 11:24
schestowitzMicrosoft said it would give Moblin SilverlightMar 15 11:24
schestowitzNot Moon LieMar 15 11:24
schestowitzMaking a joke out of NovellMar 15 11:25
schestowitzNow...Mar 15 11:25
schestowitzMobiln->Meego (with Maemo)Mar 15 11:25
oiaohmBecause Intel would not touch moonlightMar 15 11:25
schestowitzSo the deal with Nokia (2008) makes senseMar 15 11:25
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Diablo-D3schestowitz: I wanna see how meego turns outMar 15 11:27
schestowitzhttp://blog.tampakrap.gr/a-linux-rubiks-cube/Mar 15 11:27
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Diablo-D3argh hey guysMar 15 11:27
schestowitzDiablo-D3: it's swpats-infectedMar 15 11:28
Diablo-D3whats the word for a product thats not legitMar 15 11:28
schestowitzMicrosoft is OK with it as long as it gets paidMar 15 11:28
schestowitzDiablo-D3: knockoff?Mar 15 11:28
Diablo-D3yes, but theres a more legal word for itMar 15 11:29
DaemonFCUbuntu has managed to botch Plymouth somehowMar 15 11:29
DaemonFCto where you get stuck on tty1 instead of moving on to gdmMar 15 11:30
Diablo-D3DaemonFC: its a pre-release version thoughMar 15 11:30
Diablo-D3plus, plymouth kind of sucksMar 15 11:30
DaemonFCI removed itMar 15 11:30
DaemonFCI'll put it back when it worksMar 15 11:30
Diablo-D3it takes so goddamned long to start X I dont know why they just dont put it in the initrMar 15 11:30
Diablo-D3*initrdMar 15 11:31
schestowitzBoycott Novell has been pointing out this M$-Danger for years and duly receives a continuous stream of M$-Sourced abuse for doing so.Mar 15 11:31
schestowitzHowever, Boycott Novell would never make the mistake of crediting Novell for their efforts to implement MS-.NET in the heart of Free Software. They well know that Novell is a "MS-Partner" that is faithfully doing the work of their M$-Masters.Mar 15 11:31
schestowitzM$ cannot change their spots, anymore than can any leopard, and they'll always remain the deadly enemy of the Free Software Community!Mar 15 11:31
schestowitzhttp://www.fsdaily.com/Opposition/Microsoft_shares_its_love_of_free_software_and_open_formats#comment-5764Mar 15 11:31
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Microsoft shares it's love of free software and open formats | fsdaily.com - Free Software News .::. Size~: 33.59 KBMar 15 11:31
schestowitzOopsMar 15 11:32
schestowitzThat was a quote aboveMar 15 11:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @schestowitz Agreed but I can't stand being on the receiving end of ads. For commercial telly I switch to bbc news 24 during the ads :)Mar 15 11:33
DaemonFCYeah, they say they want to make it start faster and so they add an extra 2-3 seconds so it can load a big ugly purple screenMar 15 11:33
schestowitzhttp://ostatic.com/blog/another-day-another-illogical-attack-on-open-sourceMar 15 11:33
phIRCe-BNcTitle:  Another Day, Another Illogical Attack On Open Source  .::. Size~: 23.54 KBMar 15 11:33
oiaohmThe big mistake people are making.  Like I don't block google text adds.Mar 15 11:33
Diablo-D3seriously, theres no point in not just starting X as soon as possibleMar 15 11:33
oiaohmLot of cases web site adds are larger than the content I want to view.Mar 15 11:33
Diablo-D3X takes FOREVER to startMar 15 11:33
Diablo-D3and it can twiddle its thumbs while other shit startsMar 15 11:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @satipera makes senseMar 15 11:34
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schestowitzhttp://www.computerworlduk.com/management/government-law/legislation/news/index.cfm?newsid=19060Mar 15 11:34
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Stallman and Free Software Foundation launch Day Against DRM - Legislation/regulation/privacy - ComputerworldUK .::. Size~: 82.34 KBMar 15 11:34
DaemonFCniceMar 15 11:36
DaemonFCtrash pickup, finallyMar 15 11:36
oiaohmDiablo-D3: its not just X11 alone that has the problem.  Sooner hald is sent to the grave yard the better as well.   That thing really knows how to waste cpu time.Mar 15 11:37
DaemonFCI hate our mayorMar 15 11:37
DaemonFCthere was 12 bags of garbage sitting out there by the time they came to get the trashMar 15 11:37
DaemonFCI wish our mayor was abducted by JigsawMar 15 11:38
DaemonFCI really doMar 15 11:38
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schestowitzAnyone tried http://linuxbsdos.com/2010/03/01/vine-linux-5-1-review/ ?Mar 15 11:40
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Vine Linux 5.1 review   LinuxBSDos.com .::. Size~: 77.75 KBMar 15 11:40
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIghr3ni7ucMar 15 11:41
phIRCe-BNcTitle: YouTube- Jigsaw numa numa .::. Size~: 106.74 KBMar 15 11:41
*DaemonFC facepalmsMar 15 11:41
Diablo-D3oiaohm: dude, look at androidMar 15 11:41
Diablo-D3oiaohm: er, I mean chrome osMar 15 11:41
Diablo-D3oiaohm: they patched their X to quit looking for haldMar 15 11:41
schestowitzThey should really confiscate DaemonFOX' gunMar 15 11:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Neste dia Mundial dos Direitos do Consumidor, aproveitem para exigir a possibilidade de comprar os computadores sem comprar o Windows.Mar 15 11:43
DaemonFCschestowitz, Who is "they" and why?Mar 15 11:43
Diablo-D3http://images.4chan.org/m/src/1268649774199.jpgMar 15 11:44
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Diablo-D3oh christ! its the windows 7 burger!Mar 15 11:44
DaemonFCKilling asian hot dog eating champions since 2009Mar 15 11:44
Diablo-D3http://images.4chan.org/m/src/1268649891472.gifMar 15 11:44
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/gif type .::. Size~: 0 KBMar 15 11:44
Diablo-D3bill gates on his day off.Mar 15 11:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Aqui: http://www.consumidor.pt/Mar 15 11:45
DaemonFCOne of those Windows 7 burgers probably has enough cholesterol, salt, and fat to kill anything that's ever livedMar 15 11:45
DaemonFC:)Mar 15 11:45
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBMar 15 11:45
Diablo-D3DaemonFC: I should try eating oneMar 15 11:46
Diablo-D3I could easily make oneMar 15 11:46
Diablo-D3just buy 7 whoppersMar 15 11:46
Diablo-D3and ... HENSHIN!Mar 15 11:46
DaemonFCWell, for the price they were selling them for, you could get one and split it 3 or 4 waysMar 15 11:46
DaemonFCbe money aheadMar 15 11:46
oiaohmX11 is not the only thing that uses hald few things have used it for locating harddives and the like.  Intel was the first to patch X11 not go go hald searching in Mobiln.Mar 15 11:47
Diablo-D3oiaohm: no one cares about hald.Mar 15 11:48
Diablo-D3seriouslyMar 15 11:48
Diablo-D3its just a collossal pile of shit along the same lines of thinking as devfs or whatever the fuck that thing wasMar 15 11:48
Diablo-D3OH LOOK, A DAEMON THAT EXISTS JUST TO MAKE SHIT IN /DEVMar 15 11:48
Diablo-D3DURFAHURFAHURFFMar 15 11:48
Diablo-D3SOMEONE GET ME MY CRACK PIPEMar 15 11:49
Diablo-D3seriouslyMar 15 11:49
Diablo-D3its nutsMar 15 11:49
schestowitzhttp://linuxcritic.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/an-open-letter-to-dell-regarding-ubuntu-or-go-big-or-go-home/Mar 15 11:51
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schestowitzYou smoke nuts, Diablo-D3Mar 15 11:51
oiaohmdevfs was the sane one Diablo-D3Mar 15 11:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] It will be good If Ubuntu Desktop auto sync /var/cache/apt/archives directory #ubuntu @ubuntu #ideaMar 15 11:52
Diablo-D3oiaohm: what was the one before udevMar 15 11:52
oiaohmYep.Mar 15 11:52
oiaohmdevfs was before udev and devices had to be statically created.Mar 15 11:52
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #iPhones may suck, but #Microsoft seems to love them over WinMo phones http://ur1.ca/pqo9Mar 15 11:52
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Microsoft Employees Love Gadgets, but iPhone Fans Lie Low - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 132.82 KBMar 15 11:52
oiaohmudev is the one that has the hot plug demon.Mar 15 11:52
Diablo-D3well waitMar 15 11:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] It will be good if Ubuntu adopt GoboLinux FSH. #idea #ubuntu @ubuntuMar 15 11:53
Diablo-D3oiaohm: noMar 15 11:53
Diablo-D3there was one before udevMar 15 11:53
Diablo-D3devfs was the one that wasnt statically createdMar 15 11:53
oiaohmdevfs is the same a freebsd and solarias.Mar 15 11:53
Diablo-D3you know whatMar 15 11:53
Diablo-D3I dont careMar 15 11:53
DaemonFCWhy in the fucking hell did Ubuntu replace the audio applet with indicator crapplet?Mar 15 11:53
Diablo-D3linux sucks.Mar 15 11:53
oiaohmThe old ancent bsd solution.Mar 15 11:54
oiaohmie devfs then udev then devtmpfs and/or udev are the groupings in Linux kernel development.Mar 15 11:55
oiaohmdevtmpfs is the far saner one of them all.  It can start operating before any filesystems are mounted.Mar 15 11:56
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] MSI Wind modified into tablet, MSI should ship these with !Linux on them http://ur1.ca/psruMar 15 11:57
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oiaohmTo be correct I missed one.  devfs then devfs + hotplug userspace service to attempt to make a old design device system hotplug.Mar 15 12:00
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Scientology tries to block #German documentary detailing story of former member who tried to leave http://ur1.ca/pssk #anonymousMar 15 12:02
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Like #Apple doesn't have enough people to #sue already http://ur1.ca/pst0Mar 15 12:02
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phIRCe-BNcTitle: Keepin' it real fake: iPhone hits discount retailers as an eyeshadow palette -- Engadget .::. Size~: 200.54 KBMar 15 12:02
oiaohmhttp://code.google.com/p/unladen-swallow/   Sometimes project names remind you of monty pythonMar 15 12:03
phIRCe-BNcTitle:  unladen-swallow -  Project Hosting on Google Code .::. Size~: 11.65 KBMar 15 12:03
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Cock Soup apparently is a Jamaican delicacy, who knew http://ur1.ca/pstq #douchebagsMar 15 12:07
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Would like an alarm clock on my android phone that played my last.fm tracksMar 15 12:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @declandebarra: For those of you who want to officially leave the catholic church download forms here. http://bit.ly/SHimBMar 15 12:10
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DaemonFChttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/stracciatella-session/+bug/539030Mar 15 12:11
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Bug #539030 in stracciatella-session (Ubuntu): “There is no volume control applet in a standard GNOME session.” .::. Size~: 29.67 KBMar 15 12:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @wikileaks US Intelligence planned to destroy WikiLeaks http://bit.ly/usintel >>shows how well wikileaks is doing <-- DONATE! YES, YOU!Mar 15 12:12
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Amused that Sophie (6) likes Stakker Humanoid (Snowman Mix) - Humanoid. "it's spacey Daddy".her soft toy cat 'honeybun' is dancing to it. :)Mar 15 12:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] @popey: Do you think it's possible to put the real GNOME volume applet back in for the Straciawhooziwhazit session on Lucid?Mar 15 12:19
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB7PRY1Aqds&NR=1Mar 15 12:20
phIRCe-BNcTitle: YouTube- Tom Lehrer - The MLF Lullaby .::. Size~: 114.11 KBMar 15 12:20
schestowitzLook who gets a compliment...Mar 15 12:20
schestowitz"Sam Varghese is one of my favourite writers. He tends to hit the nail on the head. Hard. The nail usually doesn’t enjoy the experience."Mar 15 12:20
schestowitzhttp://madhatter.ca/2010/03/14/philosophical-geekess-did-she-or-didnt-she/Mar 15 12:20
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Is this where PCs come to die? http://www.ghabuntu.com/2010/03/and-i-always-thought-name-is-microsoft.htmlMar 15 12:46
phIRCe-BNcTitle: And I always thought  the name is Microsoft Windows! | GHABUNTU .::. Size~: 90.27 KBMar 15 12:46
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DaemonFChmmm, if you uninstall indicator-messages then it gets rid of that part of the crapplet without taking out your volume controlMar 15 12:47
DaemonFCyayMar 15 12:47
cubezzz2hehMar 15 12:47
DaemonFCI hate those indicator crappletsMar 15 12:48
cubezzz2almost rightMar 15 12:48
cubezzz2the sign should say "WinBlows"Mar 15 12:48
cubezzz2actually they got almost every letter wrong :)Mar 15 12:49
DaemonFCI figured out why the indicator crapplet kepts going back to the "muted volume" iconMar 15 12:51
DaemonFCit did it every time the indicator-messages part of the crapplet updated anythingMar 15 12:51
schestowitz"For those who have not been paying attention to Detroit’s travails of late, there has not been much good news.  The previous mayor, Kwame Kilpatrick, resigned in disgrace following a series of scandals. Numerous other city officials have been convicted on a variety of corruption charges, including Detroit City Council member, Monica Conyers, who just received a jail sentence of 37 months for a bribery conviction.  Conyers is the Mar 15 12:54
schestowitzwife of U.S. Congressman John Conyers (D-MI)."Mar 15 12:54
schestowitzhttp://blogs.marketwatch.com/fundmastery/2010/03/12/goldman-sachs-detroit-junk-bonds-robocop/Mar 15 12:54
phIRCe-BNcTitle:   Goldman Sachs, Detroit, Junk Bonds & RoboCop - Fundmastery Blog - MarketWatch .::. Size~: 32.93 KBMar 15 12:54
schestowitzDetroit is the Huntington of MichiganMar 15 12:55
DaemonFCschestowitz, Another Marion BarryMar 15 12:56
DaemonFCLife's a lot like Marion Barry, not all that it's cracked up to beMar 15 12:56
DaemonFCall born equal, unless you're CanadianMar 15 12:56
DaemonFC:PMar 15 12:56
DaemonFChttp://popup.lala.com/popup/432627090803921352Mar 15 12:57
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Lala Song Player - Take The Long Way Home (Album Version) by Bloodhound Gang .::. Size~: 22.59 KBMar 15 12:57
MinceRgeekingsMar 15 12:58
DaemonFCschestowitz, Detroit might have the population of Huntington, Indiana soonMar 15 12:59
DaemonFCif they keep foreclosing at this rateMar 15 12:59
DaemonFCschestowitz, My mom's welfare neighbors moved back up to Michigan cause they said the welfare is better up thereMar 15 13:00
DaemonFCno I'm not being prejudiced for once, they fucking said thatMar 15 13:00
DaemonFCexactly thatMar 15 13:00
DaemonFCthe welfare's good, we're moving backMar 15 13:00
DaemonFC500 pound woman and her two half-black kidsMar 15 13:01
DaemonFCone of whom sells drugsMar 15 13:01
DaemonFCyou know, the stereotypical welfare family next doorMar 15 13:01
DaemonFC"Can we borrow $20 til Tuesday?"Mar 15 13:01
DaemonFCand I'm thinking "What the hell happens on Tuesday? Social Security only pays you once a month"Mar 15 13:02
DaemonFCschestowitz, That's why Michigan is deadMar 15 13:03
DaemonFCthey're paying the people that don't do anything to stay thereMar 15 13:03
DaemonFCand even come there from other statesMar 15 13:03
DaemonFCIndiana does every nasty trick in the book to people that apply for Medicaid or food stamps or housing assistanceMar 15 13:04
DaemonFCto the point where people that really need it can't even get itMar 15 13:04
DaemonFC(and go to Michigan I guess)Mar 15 13:04
DaemonFCIt's like, the program exists on paper but they manage to turn away 98% of the people that apply Mar 15 13:06
DaemonFCand if you look at how high Michigan taxes people that work, you can see why the people that work leave Michigan and come to IndianaMar 15 13:06
DaemonFCit's funny really, they give us productive people and we give them our trailer trash that wants more welfareMar 15 13:07
schestowitzI have a friend who fled MichiganMar 15 13:07
schestowitzIt's a mess thereMar 15 13:07
schestowitzHe came to EuropeMar 15 13:07
schestowitzWhich obviously you love making fun ofMar 15 13:07
DaemonFCI can tell you it's a mess thereMar 15 13:07
DaemonFCwelfare flying every which way, high taxes, no jobsMar 15 13:08
schestowitzSlashdot is based thereMar 15 13:08
DaemonFCrecipe for disasterMar 15 13:08
schestowitzWill /.'s new pals from Redmond bail them out?Mar 15 13:08
Diablo-D3huhMar 15 13:08
schestowitzThey already took on board some Microsoft shills (Ohloh and others)Mar 15 13:09
DaemonFCschestowitz, Indiana has a constitutional clause that forbids us from taking on debtMar 15 13:09
DaemonFCwe're one of the few states that has a budget surplus right nowMar 15 13:09
schestowitzSo China won't buy you ;-)Mar 15 13:09
DaemonFCwe have about $2 billion to spare at the momentMar 15 13:09
schestowitzI wonder if one day the US will sell weapons like USSR didMar 15 13:10
schestowitzTo make moneyMar 15 13:10
schestowitzSell away arsenalsMar 15 13:10
schestowitzNot reservesMar 15 13:10
DaemonFCdoubtfulMar 15 13:10
schestowitzSubs, nukes, planes, etc.Mar 15 13:10
DaemonFCit makes no sense to arm other countries with the stuff that is a match for oursMar 15 13:10
DaemonFCwe sell them shit that's 20 years oldMar 15 13:10
schestowitzThe US has over 50% of the world's military spendingsMar 15 13:11
schestowitzAnd the US is less than 5% of the world's populationMar 15 13:11
oiaohmI time long range missiles might make no sence.Mar 15 13:11
oiaohmRemember a missile is only useful if it can hit it target.Mar 15 13:11
schestowitzSo an average US citizen has more than 10 times the spendings on weapons than the average humanMar 15 13:11
DaemonFCoiaohm, This nuclear arms reduction talk is a way for the US and Russia to save face I thinkMar 15 13:11
DaemonFChundreds less missiles and warheads to maintainMar 15 13:11
DaemonFCthose things aren't cheapMar 15 13:12
oiaohmAlso lot of the warhead were going end of life as well.Mar 15 13:12
schestowitzThey can be used for energyMar 15 13:12
schestowitzAlready refinedMar 15 13:12
DaemonFCyeah, so it would cost money to replace themMar 15 13:12
oiaohmThat is one thing people forget if you want it or not nuke power releases.Mar 15 13:12
DaemonFCnot worth doing it, just phase them out insteadMar 15 13:13
oiaohmSo all that time refining a warhead in some many years you have to refine it again so it can work.Mar 15 13:13
DaemonFCthe US has something like 2200 warheads and the Russians have like 2800Mar 15 13:13
DaemonFCwhich is just insaneMar 15 13:13
oiaohmEach time you end up with less material to make warheads from.Mar 15 13:13
oiaohmWhat is kinda insane Australia is sitting on enough matterial to remake most of those war heads.Mar 15 13:14
DaemonFCwell, how many do we have to have to guarantee retaliatory strike capacity?Mar 15 13:14
schestowitzoiaohm: http://www.itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/37597-oh-dear-serkowskis-fighting-wordsMar 15 13:14
DaemonFCI doubt it's 2200Mar 15 13:14
DaemonFCwe could probably go down to 1,000 and still have enough to hit back at anyone that made a first strike against usMar 15 13:15
oiaohmEven with 2200 with ones exploding in orbit you cannot even be sure they make it.Mar 15 13:15
DaemonFCso why do we have 2200?Mar 15 13:15
oiaohmIe using nukes are a nuke weapon shield.Mar 15 13:15
oiaohmNot prity.Mar 15 13:15
DaemonFCexploding in orbit?Mar 15 13:15
oiaohmYep.Mar 15 13:15
oiaohmexploding them in orbit can be used to itercept long range.  DaemonFCMar 15 13:15
schestowitzIf you know thr targetsMar 15 13:16
oiaohmThe weakness of intercontental missiles.Mar 15 13:16
schestowitzYou can't shoot down the bombsMar 15 13:16
schestowitzOr planesMar 15 13:16
DaemonFCSLBMs ftw!Mar 15 13:16
schestowitzYou overwhelm with fake onesMar 15 13:16
oiaohmNot really as long as you expode inside 60 kms you are fine.  schestowitzMar 15 13:16
oiaohmYou chain react them.Mar 15 13:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Israeli ambassador to Washington says US/Israel relations are in biggest crisis for 35 years. http://is.gd/aHOWDMar 15 13:17
DaemonFCthere's no intercepting an SLBMMar 15 13:17
phIRCe-BNcTitle: BBC News - Ties between Israel and US 'worst in 35 years'  .::. Size~: 63.55 KBMar 15 13:17
DaemonFChow do you shoot down something that goes from launch to target in 20 minutes or less?Mar 15 13:17
DaemonFCwhen you don't even know where it's launched fromMar 15 13:17
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] Israeli ambassador to Washington says US/Israel relations are in biggest crisis for 35 years. http://is.gd/aHOWDMar 15 13:17
schestowitzIf you're Bush...Mar 15 13:17
phIRCe-BNcTitle: BBC News - Ties between Israel and US 'worst in 35 years'  .::. Size~: 63.51 KBMar 15 13:17
schestowitzThen you make "defence system"Mar 15 13:17
schestowitzSometime between prayer sessionsMar 15 13:18
DaemonFCschestowitz, Which is stupidMar 15 13:18
oiaohmLuck or basically vaporise earth.  DaemonFCMar 15 13:18
DaemonFCthere's no defense against an SLBMMar 15 13:18
schestowitzDaemonFC: it's notMar 15 13:18
oiaohmIf they contain nuke warheads.Mar 15 13:18
schestowitzIt's good for the economyMar 15 13:18
DaemonFCunless you find and destroy the sub that's going to launch themMar 15 13:18
schestowitzMaking contracts for the Military Industrial ComplexMar 15 13:18
schestowitzOBAMAA called Nasa moon missions offMar 15 13:18
oiaohmNuke warheads can be blocked if there is enough radation on surface.Mar 15 13:18
schestowitzBut his country still builds many bombs\Mar 15 13:18
oiaohmIe self destorying.Mar 15 13:18
oiaohmNow there is a reason why SLBM are a mix of convertional and nuke.Mar 15 13:19
DaemonFCschestowitz, What was funny is that a lot of the bobms we were dropping in Afghanistan had been in storage since VietnamMar 15 13:19
DaemonFCclearing the aging stockpileMar 15 13:19
DaemonFC:DMar 15 13:19
schestowitz"Why waste them?"Mar 15 13:19
DaemonFCsome of the bombs we dropped on them were older than I amMar 15 13:19
DaemonFCexactlyMar 15 13:20
DaemonFC:)Mar 15 13:20
oiaohmIts either use them or risk them become unstable in storage.Mar 15 13:20
oiaohmNot like disceting a bomb is fun.Mar 15 13:20
schestowitzBush is like that dude from Doom at the end of a level with lots of ammo leftMar 15 13:20
schestowitzStarting to shoot plasma at barrelsMar 15 13:20
DaemonFCoiaohm, If we didn't bomb Afghanistan with them, they were going to have to be destroyed soon anywayMar 15 13:20
DaemonFCso it's like a freebieMar 15 13:20
oiaohmQuestion is destroyed how.Mar 15 13:21
oiaohmControlled or uncontrolled.Mar 15 13:21
schestowitzoiaohm: they can be used usefullyMar 15 13:21
DaemonFCyeah, those daisy cutters are pretty kickassMar 15 13:21
oiaohmSo it could be a little bit more than a freebie.Mar 15 13:21
schestowitzLike blowing up mountains for mountainsMar 15 13:21
schestowitzThere's always need for TNTMar 15 13:21
schestowitzSo it's no excuse for wars, hardlyMar 15 13:21
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiP7-HBHwPcMar 15 13:22
schestowitz*mountains for miningMar 15 13:22
phIRCe-BNcTitle: YouTube- DAISY CUTTER -- EXTERMINATION ON THE MOVE .::. Size~: 114.56 KBMar 15 13:22
oiaohmOther than the fact some bombs are designed not to be disarmed schestowitzMar 15 13:22
DaemonFCdaisy cutter ftw!Mar 15 13:22
DaemonFCbut then there's the MOAB tooMar 15 13:22
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7tG7keSe-0Mar 15 13:23
phIRCe-BNcTitle: YouTube- MOAB .::. Size~: 109.53 KBMar 15 13:23
schestowitzDaemonFC: what stupid comments Mar 15 13:25
schestowitzDaisy cutterMar 15 13:25
DaemonFCI really wouldn't want to be standing in that 3 acre areaMar 15 13:26
DaemonFCB-)Mar 15 13:26
DaemonFCwould you?Mar 15 13:26
oiaohmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_of_all_bombs  This one is fun.  Russian built more destructive than the MOABMar 15 13:26
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Father of all bombs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 42.18 KBMar 15 13:26
schestowitzIt links to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfoQsZa8F1c&NR=1Mar 15 13:27
phIRCe-BNcTitle: YouTube- Tsar Bomb - The biggest bomb ever .::. Size~: 117.63 KBMar 15 13:27
schestowitzIt's not about the explosions anywayMar 15 13:28
schestowitzIt's about infrastructureMar 15 13:28
Diablo-D3FOAB!Mar 15 13:29
schestowitzAnd the US is more dependent than China on itMar 15 13:29
schestowitzLike 90+% of deaths are not caused from explosions in case of war; it's what happens afterwardsMar 15 13:29
schestowitzLeukaemia, famine, birth defects, loss of science about mortality and medicineMar 15 13:30
schestowitzhttp://www.itwire.com/your-it-news/mobility/37581-lenovo-goes-back-to-school-for-big-blueMar 15 13:30
schestowitzLenovo is quite a rogue companyMar 15 13:31
Diablo-D3schestowitz: btw noMar 15 13:31
Diablo-D3that'd be NUCLEARMar 15 13:31
Diablo-D3dont assume all bombs are nuclear, dudeMar 15 13:31
DaemonFCspeaking of bombingMar 15 13:34
DaemonFCsomeone made a carpet bombing run on Mesa with Nouveau patchesMar 15 13:34
schestowitzhttp://www.retrothing.com/2010/03/vacuum-tube-radio-hat.htmlMar 15 13:34
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DaemonFChehMar 15 13:34
Diablo-D3DaemonFC: lolMar 15 13:34
DaemonFChttp://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/log/Mar 15 13:35
phIRCe-BNcTitle: mesa/mesa - The Mesa 3D Graphics Library .::. Size~: 24.07 KBMar 15 13:35
DaemonFCseems like features are added so slowly to the drivers because there's so much infrastructure work that needs done to support it firstMar 15 13:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Since EPLA area is not a constitution-based republic, appeal to national supreme courts and ECJ should be allowed http://i5.be/aB7Mar 15 13:40
phIRCe-BNcTitle: European Patent Litigation Agreement (EPLA) .::. Size~: 24.88 KBMar 15 13:40
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYW50F42ss8Mar 15 13:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] HT @DrJoyDavidson Anti-porn scholar's porn study shows it *beneficial* to viewers; says ideology can't trump science http://ow.ly/1l3yC NSFWMar 15 13:50
phIRCe-BNcTitle: http://business.avn.com/articles/37218.html .::. Size~: 3.85 KBMar 15 13:50
schestowitzGood channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/JamesRandiFoundationMar 15 13:51
phIRCe-BNcTitle: YouTube- JamesRandiFoundation's Channel .::. Size~: 75 KBMar 15 13:51
schestowitzhttp://blogs.forbes.com/velocity/2010/03/05/where-microsoft-censors-bing-for-sex/Mar 15 13:55
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Where Microsoft Censors Bing For Sex «  Velocity - Forbes.com .::. Size~: 34.92 KBMar 15 13:55
schestowitzhttp://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/191238/android_dominates_windows_mobile_plummets_iphone_stagnant.htmlMar 15 14:04
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Android Dominates, Windows Mobile Plummets, iPhone Stagnant - PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 56.82 KBMar 15 14:04
schestowitzLinux up, all others down?Mar 15 14:04
oiaohmNot time to party yet.Mar 15 14:10
oiaohmhttp://www.comscore.com/Press_Events/Press_Releases/2010/3/comScore_Reports_January_2010_U.S._Mobile_Subscriber_Market_ShareMar 15 14:11
phIRCe-BNcTitle: comScore Reports January 2010 U.S. Mobile Subscriber Market Share   - comScore, Inc .::. Size~: 25.5 KBMar 15 14:11
oiaohmThe other one up is RIM schestowitzMar 15 14:11
oiaohmThe god darn black bery.Mar 15 14:11
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schestowitzDavid Worthington is shilling Microsoft's lies. http://www.pcworld.com/article/191118/the_birth_of_windows_from_vaporware_to_reality.htmlMar 15 14:16
phIRCe-BNcTitle: The Birth of Windows: From Vaporware to Reality - PCWorld .::. Size~: 68.05 KBMar 15 14:16
schestowitzI didn't know he was involved in this tooMar 15 14:16
schestowitzoiaohm: ComScore if a Microsoft partnerMar 15 14:17
schestowitzSo it's funny to see these resultsMar 15 14:17
schestowitzThe Microsoft boosters are VERY busy at the moment http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/03/the_future_of_windows_and_why_microsoft_should_make_pcs.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10465448-56.htmlMar 15 14:18
phIRCe-BNcTitle: The future of Windows, and why Microsoft should make PCs .::. Size~: 49.49 KBMar 15 14:18
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Musings on the future of Microsoft, Windows | Beyond Binary - CNET News .::. Size~: 142.95 KBMar 15 14:18
schestowitzThey write fluff, not enwsMar 15 14:18
schestowitzjust four clusters of headlines about "windows 7", which is very little (news for Microsoft has generally been quiet in the past week, for no apparent reason).Mar 15 14:18
schestowitzhttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62E18720100315?type=technologyNewsMar 15 14:24
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Facebook to open office in southern India| Reuters .::. Size~: 51.34 KBMar 15 14:24
oiaohmReally MS making PC's after the Xbox 360's you could bet they would be untrustable.Mar 15 14:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] BSA: The business environment in Europe characterized by low numbers of IT patents was identified as holding Europe back: http://i5.be/aB8Mar 15 14:28
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Business Software Alliance -  .::. Size~: 27.11 KBMar 15 14:28
schestowitzCNET and microsoft boosting sites pretend that _PC_ gaming is all there is to GPU... http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20000277-264.html http://www.devicemag.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-to-compete-with-microsofts-directx-11/Mar 15 14:28
phIRCe-BNcTitle: New OpenGL 4.0 aims to match DirectX 11 | Deep Tech - CNET News .::. Size~: 91.2 KBMar 15 14:28
schestowitzPoor coverageMar 15 14:28
phIRCe-BNcTitle:   OpenGL 4.0 to Compete With Microsofts DirectX 11 - DeviceMAG .::. Size~: 20.15 KBMar 15 14:28
schestowitzOpenGL is used A LOT, except maybe on MS WIndows gamesMar 15 14:29
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schestowitzhttp://www.phoneplusmag.com/hotnews/billsoft-becomes-microsoft-gold-certified.htmlMar 15 14:33
phIRCe-BNcTitle: BillSoft Becomes a Microsoft Gold Certified Partner .::. Size~: 26.5 KBMar 15 14:33
schestowitz*LOL*Mar 15 14:33
schestowitzBillSoftMar 15 14:33
schestowitzTurns out BN made the front page of Linux Today last nightMar 15 14:48
schestowitz"i've got no use for a virtual install of debian. right now i haven't even got qemu/the like, i'd have to put it on my boot usb\" http://identi.ca/notice/24830882Mar 15 14:51
phIRCe-BNcTitle: menn (openuniverse) 's status on Monday, 15-Mar-10 13:34:44 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.4 KBMar 15 14:51
schestowitzHeh. http://identi.ca/notice/24831065 "@openuniverse they get them dismanled by installing Windows on them"Mar 15 14:52
phIRCe-BNcTitle: menn (openuniverse) 's status on Monday, 15-Mar-10 13:36:21 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.33 KBMar 15 14:52
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[aondo] ♺ @eirikso: If your agency tells you that you need a 100% flash based page with fancy effects and no fallback - find another agency.Mar 15 15:02
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Aaargh. Sophie burst into floods of tears.She accidentally flushed her 'raggy' down the toilet.it was tucked in her shorts as a 'tail' :(Mar 15 15:07
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DaemonFCOK, I hereby declare this VC DayMar 15 15:09
DaemonFCVictory over the CrappletMar 15 15:09
*DaemonFC hands everyone a cigarMar 15 15:09
DaemonFCand I sent in my notorized claim for $46.64Mar 15 15:10
DaemonFCand I have coffeeMar 15 15:10
DaemonFCit's going to be a good dayMar 15 15:10
MinceRwhat happened?Mar 15 15:11
DaemonFCMinceR? Found money? Taming the Ubuntu crapplet disease? Coffee?Mar 15 15:12
DaemonFCname something bad in that listMar 15 15:12
MinceRi mean which crapplet did you defeat and how?Mar 15 15:14
DaemonFCSebastien Bacher  wrote 1 hour ago:    #5Mar 15 15:18
DaemonFCThe previous comment doesn't respect the code of conduct and is out of order there.Mar 15 15:18
DaemonFCRyan  wrote 3 seconds ago:    #6Mar 15 15:18
DaemonFCWell snap. It's perfectly obvious that if you didn't remove the volume applet that's supposed to be there anyway, this wouldn't be happening.Mar 15 15:18
DaemonFCMinceR, :)Mar 15 15:18
DaemonFCMinceR, I have the utmost contempt for their Code of Conduct because it presumes that nobody is ever allowed to be justifiably angry or cynical of anything they do, even if they're not actually focusing the criticism on a particular individual or using foul language or just ranting off topicMar 15 15:23
schestowitz"Stan Jones, Indiana's former commissioner for higher education, is leading the effort with about $12 million in startup money from several national nonprofits including the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation."Mar 15 15:26
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gKoP8I2QeqcYvOMEiM0UVpJN20PAD9E6P2BG3Mar 15 15:26
phIRCe-BNcTitle: The Associated Press: 17 states to fight dismal college completion rates .::. Size~: 10.92 KBMar 15 15:26
schestowitzDaemonFC: can you find our his past crook acts?Mar 15 15:27
DaemonFCwell first, what governor appointed himMar 15 15:31
DaemonFCschestowitz, If it was Mitch Daniels, you know something is rottenMar 15 15:31
DaemonFCahhhMar 15 15:32
DaemonFCEvan BayhMar 15 15:32
DaemonFCinexplicably popular Evan BayhMar 15 15:32
DaemonFCif Evan Bayh is on a ballot in Indiana, don't bother trying to run against himMar 15 15:32
DaemonFCBarack Obama about chose Bayh as his Vice President to help him carry the Indiana voteMar 15 15:33
DaemonFCdecided not to because that would give Mitch Daniels the right to appoint a replacement Senator who would be a RepublicanMar 15 15:33
DaemonFCschestowitz, I think the only governor we've had that I can remember that wasn't rotten to the core, was Frank O'Bannon, who died in officeMar 15 15:34
MinceRDaemonFC: you could always switch to KDEMar 15 15:35
DaemonFCcouldMar 15 15:35
DaemonFCthey haven't molested KDE too muchMar 15 15:36
DaemonFCthe indicator-crapplet isn't even working with GNOME ShellMar 15 15:37
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DaemonFCso I don't know why they're writing indicator for the old, soon to be obsolete gnome panelMar 15 15:37
Omar87Hi all.Mar 15 15:38
Omar87http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/176223.aspMar 15 15:38
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Judge: Microsoft can't sell Word anymore .::. Size~: 110.73 KBMar 15 15:38
DaemonFCthey're either retarded, planning to not use GNOME Shell, or bothMar 15 15:38
Omar87I really hated the website and all the pro-M$ clowns who commented on the articles.Mar 15 15:39
Omar87the article**Mar 15 15:39
schestowitz"Stan Jones, Indiana's former commissioner for higher education, is leading the effort with funds from several national nonprofits, including the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Jones started "Complete College America," a Washington D.C.-based nonprofit last year." Mar 15 15:47
schestowitzhttp://www.aacrao.org/transcript/index.cfm?fuseaction=show_view&doc_id=4585Mar 15 15:47
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #RIP Peter Graves http://ur1.ca/pu2hMar 15 15:47
phIRCe-BNcTitle: RIP, Peter Graves - Cinematical .::. Size~: 62.66 KBMar 15 15:47
schestowitzOmar87: it's Microsoft turfMar 15 15:48
schestowitzit's a Microsoft fan blogMar 15 15:48
Omar87schestowitz, I know.Mar 15 15:48
schestowitzOmar87: it's old tooMar 15 15:49
schestowitzSee http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/appeals-court-again-affirms-i4i-victory-87270472.htmlMar 15 15:49
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Appeals Court (Again) Affirms i4i Victory .::. Size~: 38.62 KBMar 15 15:49
Omar87schestowitz, read my comment on the FSDaily thread.Mar 15 15:49
Omar87http://www.fsdaily.com/Government/Judge_Microsoft_cant_sell_Word_anymore#comment-5814Mar 15 15:49
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Judge: Microsoft can't sell Word anymore | fsdaily.com - Free Software News .::. Size~: 27.42 KBMar 15 15:49
DaemonFCschestowitz, My census form might get here today.Mar 15 15:55
DaemonFCAs a subject, I am obligated to fill it out so they can assign pork accordingly.Mar 15 15:56
DaemonFC*sigh*Mar 15 15:56
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DaemonFCjono, Thank you for making indicator-crapplet modular so it's easy to disable the parts that annoy the crap out of meMar 15 16:17
DaemonFCI suppose they could be really vindictive like they have been in the past and make you take out Ubuntu-desktop to get rid of something you hateMar 15 16:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Would be nice if gpodder had a 'dont sync this show to media player' for stopping video podcasts from going to my non-video playerMar 15 16:27
schestowitzhttp://www.zdnetasia.com/news/internet/0,39044908,62061872,00.htmMar 15 16:30
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Microsoft settles in IM spam suit : News : Internet - ZDNet Asia .::. Size~: 47.97 KBMar 15 16:30
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schestowitzhttp://www.fsdaily.com/Community/What_Would_Happen_to_Boycott_Novell_If_Novell_Was_Sold_in_Pieces#comment-5801Mar 15 16:39
schestowitz""Mar 15 16:39
phIRCe-BNcTitle: What Would Happen to “Boycott Novell” If Novell Was Sold in Pieces | fsdaily.com - Free Software News .::. Size~: 30.84 KBMar 15 16:39
schestowitzHang onto the Boycott Novell name.Mar 15 16:39
schestowitzThe site was always about Microsoft's behaviour, anyway.Mar 15 16:39
schestowitzThe "Novell" bit can serve as a reminder, and a warning, about what happens when you start trusting M$.Mar 15 16:39
schestowitzM$ are going to keep supplying BN with plenty of anti-Free Software copy for the foreseeable future, so you'll probably have a job for years to come, yet.Mar 15 16:39
schestowitz"Mar 15 16:39
DaemonFCBoycott companies that sucked Satan's cock for a quick buck and died a few years later?Mar 15 16:41
DaemonFCtoo long I know, but trueMar 15 16:41
DaemonFCheh, Canonical supports XFS utilities until 2015 in LucidMar 15 16:42
DaemonFCmust mean they have Server customers that use itMar 15 16:43
DaemonFCenough to where they support it properlyMar 15 16:43
schestowitzEnder2070: VAR Guy: http://www.mspmentor.net/2010/03/11/msp-software-buyouts-will-microsoft-follow-cas-lead/Mar 15 16:43
phIRCe-BNcTitle: MSP Software Buyouts: Will Microsoft Follow CA's Lead? | MSPmentor .::. Size~: 59.85 KBMar 15 16:43
schestowitzHe does Microsoft blogging tooMar 15 16:43
schestowitzDaemonFC: enough with that phraseMar 15 16:43
schestowitz"sucked Satan's cock"Mar 15 16:43
DaemonFCyeah, it's just so amusing :PMar 15 16:43
schestowitzYou keep saying it like you try to normalise the phraseMar 15 16:44
DaemonFCtoo habit formingMar 15 16:44
schestowitzIt's also rudeMar 15 16:44
schestowitzSay "lick Satan's boots"Mar 15 16:44
DaemonFCkissed Satan's ring?Mar 15 16:45
DaemonFC:)Mar 15 16:45
schestowitzhttp://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/03/welcome_to_bdo_new_techflash_sponsor.htmlMar 15 16:58
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Welcome and thanks to BDO, a new annual sponsor of TechFlash .::. Size~: 54.9 KBMar 15 16:58
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schestowitzNo ringsMar 15 17:04
schestowitzIt's not Saturn or UranusMar 15 17:04
schestowitzStop evoking gay sex through humour (or sex in general for that matters). It harms the channelMar 15 17:05
schestowitz*matterMar 15 17:05
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-03-15-003-35-OS-MS-AP-0000Mar 15 17:10
schestowitz"Mar 15 17:10
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Linux Today - The Microsoft Elephant in the Open Source Room .::. Size~: 73.1 KBMar 15 17:10
schestowitzINTEROPERABILITY:Mar 15 17:10
schestowitz"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean--neither more nor less."Mar 15 17:10
schestowitzAlice and Wonderland by Lewis Carroll Mar 15 17:10
schestowitz"Mar 15 17:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Morning all! In a particularly chirpy mood today. If need anything from me, now is the time to ask. :-)Mar 15 17:11
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/mar/14/asylum-torture-evidence-ignoredMar 15 17:21
phIRCe-BNcTitle: UK 'ignoring' systemic evidence of torture among asylum seekers |UK news |The Observer .::. Size~: 71.36 KBMar 15 17:21
schestowitzhttp://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2010/03/04/rebranding-openofficeorg/Mar 15 17:22
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Moved by Freedom - Powered by Standards  » Rebranding OpenOffice.org .::. Size~: 31.72 KBMar 15 17:22
schestowitzhttp://www.nuxified.org/article/getting-good-grip-claws-review-daily-useMar 15 17:22
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Getting a good grip on Claws - a review for daily use | Nuxified.org .::. Size~: 44.08 KBMar 15 17:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] You folks are all comedy gold. You are also in need of some weird things. :-)Mar 15 17:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Kicking off the morning with Beneath The Massacre's 'Mechanics Of Dysfunction'Mar 15 17:24
DaemonFCjono, Shove Indicator Applet in an incinerator?Mar 15 17:25
*DaemonFC asked while he was in a good moodMar 15 17:26
DaemonFC:)Mar 15 17:26
schestowitzWeb guru Tim Bray takes Google Android job http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20000423-264.htmlMar 15 17:26
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Web guru Tim Bray takes Google Android job | Deep Tech - CNET News .::. Size~: 129.09 KBMar 15 17:26
schestowitzYay!Mar 15 17:26
jonoDaemonFC, lolMar 15 17:28
jonocan we just shove you in an incinerator ?Mar 15 17:28
jonoat least the indicator-applet does something ;-)Mar 15 17:28
DaemonFCjono, My natural environment is fireMar 15 17:28
jonololMar 15 17:28
DaemonFCindicator-applet needs a mood indicator sub-applet to show the user in color how pissed off he is that it's making his desktop EPIC FAIL Mar 15 17:29
DaemonFCthat's what it's missingMar 15 17:29
DaemonFCit can just add a tone of red each time it fails to react to what the user has done in a rational and expected mannerMar 15 17:30
DaemonFCI mean christ, how many more frapping menus does the panel need anyway? Three wasn't enough so you turned it into five?Mar 15 17:31
schestowitzhttp://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Productivity-Sauce-Dmitri-s-open-source-blend-of-productive-computing/Extension-Watch-Turn-Firefox-into-an-Ebook-Reader-with-EPUBReaderMar 15 17:31
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Extension Watch: Turn Firefox into an Ebook Reader with EPUBReader - Linux Magazine Online  .::. Size~: 28.41 KBMar 15 17:32
DaemonFCWhy not just carry the indicator applet to the logical conclusion and make a drop down menu for everything?Mar 15 17:32
DaemonFCdedicated drop down menusMar 15 17:32
DaemonFCfor everythingMar 15 17:32
schestowitzNice: http://anotherubuntu.blogspot.com/2010/03/6-ubuntu-1004-lucid-lynx-wallpapers.htmlMar 15 17:32
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Ubuntu blogspot: 6 Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx Wallpapers .::. Size~: 162.18 KBMar 15 17:32
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Beer Drinking Gives The Same Benefits As Yoga http://post.ly/Svwu /via @sup3rkiddo @koolhead17Mar 15 17:32
schestowitzIt's even purple, fitting DaemonFC's gay prideMar 15 17:32
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Beer Drinking Gives The Same Benefits As Yoga - Seth Gray .::. Size~: 20.81 KBMar 15 17:32
DaemonFCI fucking hate purpleMar 15 17:32
DaemonFC:)Mar 15 17:33
DaemonFChmm, there's a blue one there thoughMar 15 17:33
schestowitzI like blackMar 15 17:33
schestowitzAnd blueMar 15 17:33
DaemonFCcongratulations jono, you missed and got something rightMar 15 17:33
DaemonFCround of beer on meMar 15 17:33
schestowitzLike sky, water with sky's reflectionMar 15 17:33
*zz_WireWulf-slee is now known as WireWulfMar 15 17:33
jonoDaemonFC, just use another distroMar 15 17:33
jonoyou clearly don't like UbuntuMar 15 17:34
jonoso why whinge, just use another that you do likeMar 15 17:34
WireWulfuse arch :PMar 15 17:34
iantojono++;Mar 15 17:34
schestowitzThis one kicks arse: http://reddevil62-techhead.blogspot.com/2010/03/pclinuxos-2010-beta-1-first-look.htmlMar 15 17:34
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBMar 15 17:34
DaemonFCjono, It's OK aside from ugly by default and leave the user to figure out how to murder indicator crappletMar 15 17:35
DaemonFCchop indicator crapplet up and bury it in the fruit cellarMar 15 17:35
schestowitzjono: he's teasing you, don't pay much attention. he has done that since he came here 1 year agoMar 15 17:35
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0YfEwRLGrcMar 15 17:35
phIRCe-BNcTitle: YouTube- Evil Dead 2 - What's in my Fruit Cellar!!!!! .::. Size~: 114.42 KBMar 15 17:35
jonoDaemonFC, well, it is what it is, quit complaining :)Mar 15 17:35
jonoschestowitz I know :-)Mar 15 17:36
DaemonFCIndicator Crapplet is the THING in the fruit cellarMar 15 17:36
schestowitzjono: in real life, he'd be equivalent to a guy hollering "hey, idiot" at random people in the streets Mar 15 17:36
jonololMar 15 17:36
jonoschestowitz comedy :)Mar 15 17:36
jonoI guess that's what you do when you are 19Mar 15 17:36
schestowitzjono: in your latest show you made an errorMar 15 17:37
schestowitzre file sharingMar 15 17:37
schestowitzYou left yourself exposed for MAFIAA to nitpick, IMHOMar 15 17:37
DaemonFCjono, I think of Opie from Family Guy when I think of who could have made indicator appletMar 15 17:37
DaemonFCtruly deranged piece of workMar 15 17:38
jonoschestowitz oooh, you should go and comment on that in the shot commentsMar 15 17:38
schestowitzTechDirt teaches MAFIAA opponents how to rebut the mythsMar 15 17:38
schestowitzjono: I don't comment in blogs anymoreMar 15 17:38
DaemonFCschestowitz, The fact that "pirates" are human, and the MAFIAA is lawyers?Mar 15 17:39
DaemonFCthat's a good starting pointMar 15 17:39
schestowitzI stopped as a matter of principle one year ago. http://boycottnovell.com/2009/05/17/comment-in-other-web-sites/Mar 15 17:39
schestowitzDaemonFC: noMar 15 17:39
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Why Some People Wont Comment in Other Web Sites | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 102.86 KBMar 15 17:39
schestowitzBroadcaster versus 'consumer'Mar 15 17:39
schestowitzMAFIAA is just a frontMar 15 17:39
schestowitzLegal teams and PR peopleMar 15 17:39
schestowitzMicrosoft does the same thingMar 15 17:40
DaemonFCI think subhuman slimoids filing SLAPPsMar 15 17:40
schestowitzIt uses BSA, W-E, Edelman, etc.Mar 15 17:40
schestowitzThey put their attack dogs outside the companyMar 15 17:40
schestowitzTobacco companies tooMar 15 17:40
DaemonFCof course, schestowitz Just like how some "collection agencies" are really the company originally owed the debtMar 15 17:40
schestowitzThe mistake is to attack their attack dogsMar 15 17:40
jonoschestowitz it is not so much of a blog, but a place for conversation: the goal of Shot Of Jaq is to start the conversationMar 15 17:40
schestowitzThey hide the real culpritsMar 15 17:41
DaemonFClets them scare you and do slimy shitty things without crapping on their own corporate imageMar 15 17:41
schestowitzAnd they nymshift, they have no productsMar 15 17:41
schestowitzIPAA is not attacking FOSSMar 15 17:41
schestowitzIt's its funding sourcesMar 15 17:41
jonoschestowitz I see it now says Dr Roy - is that a recent thing?Mar 15 17:41
schestowitzjono: yeah, I listen when I'm not on the PC thoughMar 15 17:41
schestowitzjono: there were trolls trying to belittle meMar 15 17:42
schestowitzSo I added the titleMar 15 17:42
jonoahhhMar 15 17:42
schestowitzAnyway, MAFIAA is an umbrella for all the 'big content' insdustryMar 15 17:42
schestowitzmovie and audioMar 15 17:42
schestowitzAs opposed to independents and small recording studiosMar 15 17:43
schestowitzYour album was totally professionally doneMar 15 17:43
DaemonFCyes, you fund the RIAA when you buy from Ubuntu OneMar 15 17:43
DaemonFCof course that's obvious, just bears sayingMar 15 17:43
schestowitzIt's in my playlist still, sometimes coming up, then I run to the volume control panickyMar 15 17:43
schestowitzDaemonFC: How so?Mar 15 17:44
schestowitzAmazon?Mar 15 17:44
DaemonFCyou buy a license to the MP3 fileMar 15 17:44
schestowitzAhh..Mar 15 17:44
DaemonFCthe RIAA gets most of thatMar 15 17:44
schestowitzMPEG-LAMar 15 17:44
DaemonFCno resale value of an MP3Mar 15 17:44
schestowitzThat's differentMar 15 17:44
schestowitzDidn't your dad get a patent on part of it?Mar 15 17:44
DaemonFCit's in his nameMar 15 17:44
schestowitzYour dad is the accompliceMar 15 17:44
DaemonFChe's not making money on itMar 15 17:45
schestowitz"I was only following orders!'Mar 15 17:45
DaemonFCwell at the time there really wasn't a concept of free softwareMar 15 17:45
DaemonFCMP3 kind of predates that becoming an ideaMar 15 17:45
DaemonFCa few bored programmers kicking around tarballs doesn't constitute a movementMar 15 17:46
schestowitzhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Debian-DebConf10-2010-Project-Leader-Elections-954870.htmlMar 15 17:47
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Debian: DebConf10 & 2010 Project Leader Elections - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 35.41 KBMar 15 17:48
DaemonFCUbuntu is part of the Han Solo movementMar 15 17:48
DaemonFC"Open Source"Mar 15 17:48
schestowitzWriting a compressor is not hardMar 15 17:48
schestowitzYou could pick the algorithms from old computer magazinesMar 15 17:48
*WireWulf is now known as Dr_WireWulfMar 15 17:48
schestowitzFor freeMar 15 17:48
schestowitzBefore the whole swpats nonsenseMar 15 17:48
schestowitzJust entropy/info theory with binary dataMar 15 17:48
schestowitzShannon's entropy goes back to around WW1Mar 15 17:49
schestowitzHow the HECK are the fundamentals patentedMar 15 17:49
schestowitzShould we also patent 0s and 1s?Mar 15 17:49
*Dr_WireWulf is now known as WireWulfMar 15 17:49
schestowitzBBSPot is a satire about thatMar 15 17:49
DaemonFCthe patent isn't on the source or the binaryMar 15 17:49
DaemonFCit's on the idea to do the things they doMar 15 17:49
schestowitzTHe people want their maths backMar 15 17:50
DaemonFCthe source of Mono isn't patentedMar 15 17:50
schestowitzDaemonFC: yes, mathsMar 15 17:50
schestowitzMatricesMar 15 17:50
schestowitzAnd wavelets and formulations like theseMar 15 17:50
schestowitzWhere you substitude data with curvatures in a line with parametersMar 15 17:51
schestowitzNot new at allMar 15 17:51
schestowitzBezier did it in France ages agoMar 15 17:51
schestowitzThere's prior artMar 15 17:51
schestowitzWhat's up with MS' HD?Mar 15 17:51
schestowitzJPEG still rulesMar 15 17:51
schestowitzJPEG 2000 was said to be infected by the MSFT patented thingMar 15 17:51
schestowitzShuttleworth heir opens up on Ubuntu biz http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2010/03/14/canonical_ceo_silber/Mar 15 17:52
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Shuttleworth heir opens up on Ubuntu biz • Channel Register .::. Size~: 26.82 KBMar 15 17:52
schestowitz"Canonical kingdom spans 10 million machines"Mar 15 17:53
schestowitzSo that's be about 30% in the WestMar 15 17:53
schestowitzBrazil uses other distrosMar 15 17:53
schestowitzDebiansMar 15 17:53
schestowitzLots of Fedora elsewhereMar 15 17:54
schestowitzLinux Journal says ~30% of its surveyed people use Ubuntu+flavoursMar 15 17:54
schestowitzhttp://www.webupd8.org/2010/03/humanity-icon-theme-updated-to-match.htmlMar 15 17:57
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Humanity Icon Theme Updated To Match The New Ubuntu Branding ~ Web Upd8 .::. Size~: 98.01 KBMar 15 17:57
schestowitzBanshee???Mar 15 17:57
DaemonFChmm, OpenArena works nicely :)Mar 15 17:58
schestowitzRemember IdeaForge?Mar 15 17:58
schestowitzhttp://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/185-jennifer-cloer/293444-one-year-later-what-do-you-think-of-linuxcomMar 15 17:59
DaemonFCschestowitz, Mesa 7.9 is already coming along nicelyMar 15 17:59
DaemonFCdidn't take long for it to pull ahead in performance over 7.8Mar 15 17:59
balzacubuntu is doing wellMar 15 17:59
balzacit's the best all-around OSMar 15 18:00
schestowitzhttp://itmanagement.earthweb.com/datbus/article.php/3870116/Digg-Moves-From-MySQL-to-NoSQL.htmMar 15 18:00
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Digg Moves From MySQL to NoSQL &mdash; Datamation.com .::. Size~: 66.24 KBMar 15 18:00
DaemonFCbalzac, It's salvageableMar 15 18:00
DaemonFCspare that triple damned indicator thingMar 15 18:00
balzacyeah, well how is it not the best?Mar 15 18:00
DaemonFCat least you can rip most of that outMar 15 18:00
balzacwhat's better?Mar 15 18:00
DaemonFCanythingMar 15 18:00
schestowitzhaiku ftwMar 15 18:00
DaemonFCupstream GNOME works better than IndicatorMar 15 18:00
schestowitzhttp://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20100315#featureMar 15 18:01
phIRCe-BNcTitle: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. .::. Size~: 91.17 KBMar 15 18:01
DaemonFCjsut use the damned notification areaMar 15 18:01
DaemonFCit's worked for 15 years, it can work for another 50Mar 15 18:01
DaemonFCit's simple, it's functional, it's elegant, and it's not full of bugsMar 15 18:01
schestowitzOne of Microsoft's shills, Hiner, has installed UbuntuMar 15 18:01
balzac这是一个Unicode测试体育馆Mar 15 18:01
DaemonFCso of course they replace it with shitty, not well thought out expanding menusMar 15 18:01
schestowitzHe'll say bad things laterMar 15 18:02
balzaccan you guys read that chinese?Mar 15 18:02
balzacjust testing unicode supportMar 15 18:02
DaemonFCI really do mean i wish I could kill Indicator with a fireplace pokerMar 15 18:02
DaemonFCshooting it is too easy :PMar 15 18:02
schestowitzOh, this reminds me... we need Hindi and Chinese translation of BN's FP... MinceR also said he'd do HungarianMar 15 18:02
balzac私は書くことができます日本語Mar 15 18:03
balzaccan you guys see japanese?Mar 15 18:03
iantobalzac: YepMar 15 18:03
DaemonFCsee it, not read itMar 15 18:03
balzacI have a shell script for using google translateMar 15 18:03
DaemonFCyeah, the results of that could be scaryMar 15 18:04
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxinsider.com/story/North-Koreas-Red-Star-Linux-and-Is-FOSS-an-Enemy-of-the-State-69541.htmlMar 15 18:04
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Linux News: Community: North Korea's 'Red Star' Linux, and Is FOSS an Enemy of the State? .::. Size~: 59.63 KBMar 15 18:04
DaemonFCGoogle Translate could start a nuclear war were heads of state to depend on itMar 15 18:04
balzacDaemonFC: not the way I use itMar 15 18:04
balzacI do round-trip translationMar 15 18:04
*schestowitz remembers when Babelfish was de facto Web translator.....Mar 15 18:05
DaemonFCUbuntu Studio theme is niceMar 15 18:05
schestowitz"@sagarun will you be willing to translate something for me? Into Hindi?"Mar 15 18:05
DaemonFCI use that to de-uglify UbuntuMar 15 18:05
DaemonFC:)Mar 15 18:05
schestowitzYes, it's a good themeMar 15 18:05
balzacThere's a translator package which uses both google or bablefishMar 15 18:05
schestowitzGTK theming is limitedMar 15 18:05
balzacMy ubuntu alread looks like version 10.4Mar 15 18:05
schestowitzQt shines in GUIsMar 15 18:05
balzacI went and grabbed the new themeMar 15 18:05
DaemonFCUbuntu has GUI designers that are drunk and blindMar 15 18:06
DaemonFCI am convincedMar 15 18:06
balzacwhat's the problem, DaemonFC Mar 15 18:06
schestowitzThis one uses a nice theme: http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/876-wolvix-linux-a-linux-distro-based-on-slackware-and-come-with-graphic-installation-modeMar 15 18:06
schestowitzxfceMar 15 18:06
DaemonFCdefault themes are always nasty/tackyMar 15 18:07
DaemonFCindicator is built by some drunken Irishmen or somethingMar 15 18:07
schestowitzbalzac: he's trollingMar 15 18:07
balzacyeahMar 15 18:07
balzacwhat a broad generalizatoinMar 15 18:07
*schestowitz theorises DaemonFC has a man.crush(); on jono, so teasesMar 15 18:07
*DaemonFC pukesMar 15 18:07
DaemonFChey baldy, baldy!!!! Kill the Crapplet!Mar 15 18:08
DaemonFC:DMar 15 18:08
schestowitzLike in South Park..Mar 15 18:08
jonoDaemonFC, want to go on a date?Mar 15 18:08
schestowitzWhich character was it that puked out of luvv?Mar 15 18:08
DaemonFCAAAAGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!Mar 15 18:08
balzacbut what OS is nicer than Ubuntu, seriously?Mar 15 18:08
jonoDaemonFC, I like long walks on the beachMar 15 18:08
jonoromantic encountersMar 15 18:08
schestowitzjono: we'd have to get him a flight ticketMar 15 18:08
DaemonFCuhhhhhm, I'm otherwise detainedMar 15 18:08
DaemonFCindefinitelyMar 15 18:08
jonoschestowitz not sure he is old enough to fly without his parentsMar 15 18:08
schestowitzHe doesn'tMar 15 18:08
balzacI booted up the ol' GNU Hurd on SaturdayMar 15 18:09
schestowitzHe never left his continent, eitherMar 15 18:09
balzacusing qemuMar 15 18:09
jonobalzac, it boots now ;-)Mar 15 18:09
balzacand a debian gnu hurd imageMar 15 18:09
schestowitzHe based his image on France on an incident him mom has with gypsies.Mar 15 18:09
DaemonFCschestowitz, I would do that, why?Mar 15 18:09
DaemonFCI would have shot the fuckersMar 15 18:09
schestowitzNo reasonMar 15 18:09
schestowitzThere's not much reason to travel by airMar 15 18:10
schestowitzExcept culturalMar 15 18:10
schestowitzThe petrol industry likes it when people travel a lotMar 15 18:10
DaemonFCif that happened in the US, I would have shot them deadMar 15 18:10
DaemonFCevery last one of themMar 15 18:10
balzacwho?Mar 15 18:10
schestowitzMuggersMar 15 18:10
DaemonFCthe muggers Mar 15 18:10
balzacpffMar 15 18:10
balzaci'd mug DaemonFC Mar 15 18:10
balzaci need moneyMar 15 18:10
schestowitzHeheMar 15 18:10
schestowitzHe has nothing you needMar 15 18:11
balzachow much money do you carry around, DaemonFC ?Mar 15 18:11
schestowitzSansa maybeMar 15 18:11
DaemonFCpull a knife on me, I will fuck you upMar 15 18:11
balzacI'd use "return-to-sender" like steven segalMar 15 18:11
*schestowitz whispers, "balzac, he's loco:"Mar 15 18:11
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cdYrBsWhtkMar 15 18:11
phIRCe-BNcTitle: YouTube- Indiana Jones  Sword vs Gun .::. Size~: 112.27 KBMar 15 18:12
balzacloco en el cocoMar 15 18:12
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] 30 kisses captured in photograph: http://psdfan.com/inspiration/photography/30-kisses-captured-in-photograph/ /via @shivaranjanMar 15 18:12
phIRCe-BNcTitle: 30 Kisses Captured in Photograph «  PSDFan .::. Size~: 47.37 KBMar 15 18:12
DaemonFCdon't bring a knife to a gunfightMar 15 18:12
schestowitzDaemonFC: bad footageMar 15 18:12
schestowitzHollywood FAIL!Mar 15 18:12
balzachey, i wanted to bring up a topicMar 15 18:13
schestowitzGood for entertainment, not realisticMar 15 18:13
balzacwhy is it that nations are listed in alphabetical order in country drop-down lists? Why should Uganda come before the United States?Mar 15 18:13
balzacit's sillyMar 15 18:13
schestowitzHollywood still pretends it doesn't or can't simulate shootingMar 15 18:14
schestowitzbalzac: innocent ones firstMar 15 18:14
balzacpffMar 15 18:14
schestowitz:-pMar 15 18:14
schestowitzhttp://www.osnews.com/story/23002/Obama_Sides_with_RIAA_MPAA_Backs_ACTAMar 15 18:14
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Obama Sides with RIAA, MPAA; Backs ACTA .::. Size~: 26.62 KBMar 15 18:14
*schestowitz cheers!!Mar 15 18:15
schestowitz"Yes. We. Can!!"Mar 15 18:15
DaemonFCschestowitz, Texas still has a law on the books that you can't shoot someone in the back, no matter what they've done to you. I like what Ron White said. Just shoot them in the legs until they get curious and turn aroundMar 15 18:15
schestowitzGo BAMA!Mar 15 18:15
balzacDaemonFC: there are a lot of fake Texans in TexasMar 15 18:15
schestowitzDaemonFC: same rules hereMar 15 18:15
schestowitzThere was a famous incidentMar 15 18:15
balzacI'm more like a Texan is supposed to be than any Texan I've ever heard ofMar 15 18:16
schestowitzbalzac: what is Texan?Mar 15 18:16
schestowitzSpecial DNA?Mar 15 18:16
schestowitzAccent?Mar 15 18:16
schestowitzIlliteracy being highly propbable?Mar 15 18:16
DaemonFCI'll shoot someone that's threatening me or someone I care aboutMar 15 18:16
DaemonFCdeal with the legality laterMar 15 18:16
DaemonFCfuck them, no criminal has more rights than I doMar 15 18:16
schestowitzNaaa.Mar 15 18:16
DaemonFCthey're deadMar 15 18:16
schestowitzYou'd be arrestedMar 15 18:16
balzacno, a Texan is supposed to be a rootin' tootin' high-noon, gun-dueling killer of bad guysMar 15 18:17
schestowitzOf course, you'd get to watch men crutching for soap...Mar 15 18:17
schestowitzSo maybe you want jailMar 15 18:17
balzacDaemonFC: please reel it in, your language is too vulgarMar 15 18:17
schestowitzDaemonFC: why do you try to come accorss as a felon?Mar 15 18:17
schestowitz*AcrossMar 15 18:17
schestowitzYou do this a lot, it's bad for the channelMar 15 18:17
DaemonFCwell, you brought up the muggers that got away and used a *chuckles* knifeMar 15 18:18
schestowitzhttp://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100312/0201128533.shtmlMar 15 18:18
phIRCe-BNcTitle: James Murdoch Is Very, Very Confused About Copyright Infringement (And So Is His Dad, Rupert) | Techdirt .::. Size~: 70.87 KBMar 15 18:18
DaemonFCthat just wouldn't fly hereMar 15 18:18
schestowitzbalzac wants his momMar 15 18:18
schestowitzHe said soMar 15 18:18
balzacI'd f ck his momMar 15 18:18
balzacjkMar 15 18:18
schestowitzThe Murdochs ruin the US image around the worldMar 15 18:18
schestowitzFOX 'News'Mar 15 18:18
schestowitzANd the culture that it entailsMar 15 18:19
WireWulfwtf is copyright infringement?Mar 15 18:19
DaemonFCWireWulf, I think it's when you infringe on someone's copyrightsMar 15 18:19
DaemonFCI could be mistakenMar 15 18:19
schestowitzIt when you make a copy without complying with some text that says you should notMar 15 18:19
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schestowitzIt's allegedly made to produce more artMar 15 18:19
schestowitzOriginal art, that isMar 15 18:19
DaemonFCbut then someone can sue you for being too much like theirsMar 15 18:20
DaemonFCand the court decides how close is too closeMar 15 18:20
schestowitzYesMar 15 18:20
DaemonFCvery inconsistentMar 15 18:20
schestowitzCOpyright dodgingMar 15 18:20
schestowitzAnd then there's patents, fair use, etc.Mar 15 18:20
zer0c00lschestowitz: you can ask twitter.com/eduvid for translating stuff to hindiMar 15 18:20
schestowitzYou could remix and add interprettation to make it your ownMar 15 18:20
schestowitzWorkaround to copyrightMar 15 18:20
zer0c00lschestowitz: I don't know hindi. I speak "tamil" one of india's regional languageMar 15 18:20
balzacमैं हिन्दी लिख सकते हैंMar 15 18:20
schestowitzzer0c00l: Ahh... I'll tryMar 15 18:20
zer0c00lschestowitz: okMar 15 18:21
schestowitzI've just asked himMar 15 18:21
schestowitzWe have no Indian ref page for BNMar 15 18:21
balzacGoogle is going to support tamil and tibetan, soon, I think.Mar 15 18:21
schestowitzzer0c00l: Tamil would be good tooMar 15 18:21
balzaczer0c00l: did you read my hindi?Mar 15 18:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @eduvid will you be willing to translate something for me? Into Hindi?Mar 15 18:22
schestowitzFor a page like this: http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php/FrancaisMar 15 18:22
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Francais - Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 13.55 KBMar 15 18:22
zer0c00lschestowitz: For tamil translation you can ask @amachu Mar 15 18:22
zer0c00l(identi.ca)Mar 15 18:22
schestowitzhttp://thresq.hollywoodreporter.com/2010/03/judge-declares-peace-over-sonys-god-of-war.htmlMar 15 18:22
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Judge tosses copyright claim on Sony's 'God of War'--The Hollywood Reporter | Esq. | Entertainment and Media Law .::. Size~: 49.29 KBMar 15 18:22
zer0c00lschestowitz: These days i am preoccupied with workMar 15 18:22
schestowitz"Video games are becoming more like movies every day, so it's not surprising to see publishers facing the same kinds of idea theft lawsuits that frequently irritate Hollywood."Mar 15 18:22
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] Just reading about Eric Raymond now I know why the cartoon is called Bizarre Cathedral. #linux #flossMar 15 18:22
schestowitzzer0c00l: ah, OKMar 15 18:22
schestowitzI reckoned just 200 words won't take longMar 15 18:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Just reading about Eric Raymond now I know why the cartoon is called Bizarre Cathedral. #linux #flossMar 15 18:23
balzacमैं हिन्दी लिख सकते हैंMar 15 18:23
zer0c00lschestowitz: @amachu has translated gnu.org to tamil Mar 15 18:23
schestowitzI c.....Mar 15 18:23
balzacnice workMar 15 18:23
schestowitzI don't know him thoughMar 15 18:23
schestowitzI can't ask strangersMar 15 18:24
zer0c00lschestowitz: :PMar 15 18:24
balzaczer0c00l: helloMar 15 18:24
zer0c00lschestowitz: just 200 words?Mar 15 18:24
schestowitzI tried Anivar tooMar 15 18:24
zer0c00lbalzac: helloMar 15 18:24
balzacdid you read my hindi?Mar 15 18:24
balzacमैं हिन्दी लिख सकते हैंMar 15 18:24
schestowitzzer0c00l: yes, just the part that says "introduction" http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php/Main_PageMar 15 18:24
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Main Page - Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 23.08 KBMar 15 18:24
zer0c00lbalzac: i know it is hindi, but i don't know wtf that meansMar 15 18:24
balzacyou read tamil?Mar 15 18:24
schestowitzI add this to the top, it's the front page to newcomersMar 15 18:24
zer0c00lschestowitz: I will try it this weekendMar 15 18:24
zer0c00lbalzac: yesMar 15 18:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[emacs_user] @satipera .. put it in a bash script and you won't have to ...Mar 15 18:25
schestowitzThanks so much !!!Mar 15 18:25
balzaci can't translate tamil yetMar 15 18:25
schestowitzDoesn't Tamil mean tall in Arabic?Mar 15 18:25
zer0c00lhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_languageMar 15 18:25
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Tamil language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 223.86 KBMar 15 18:25
schestowitzhttp://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,675298,00.htmlMar 15 18:27
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Based on a True Story: TV Movie Portrays Dark Side of Scientology - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International .::. Size~: 34.94 KBMar 15 18:27
zer0c00lschestowitz: Anivar can help you translate stuff to malayalam (sister language of tamil :P )Mar 15 18:27
zer0c00lwe speak more than 20 official languages Mar 15 18:27
DaemonFCI'll bet that's funMar 15 18:28
schestowitzzer0c00l: wowMar 15 18:28
schestowitzI did a school's project on languages in IndiaMar 15 18:28
zer0c00lDaemonFC: yes Mar 15 18:28
schestowitzBut that was almost 20 years agoMar 15 18:28
zer0c00lschestowitz: :)Mar 15 18:28
schestowitzI was a kiddoMar 15 18:28
schestowitzhttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/14/opinion/14rich.htmlMar 15 18:28
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Op-Ed Columnist - The New Rove-Cheney Assault on Reality - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 54.22 KBMar 15 18:28
schestowitzDaemonFOX ^^^ your heroesMar 15 18:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[emacs_user] @satipera, you profile says you are in Wiltshire, European Union. When did her Mag dissolve the Monarchy :)Mar 15 18:29
DaemonFCschestowitz, Those are not my heroes.... Go **** yourself!!!Mar 15 18:29
DaemonFCnuts :PMar 15 18:29
schestowitzBalls?Mar 15 18:29
schestowitzThat's the phraseMar 15 18:29
DaemonFCnoMar 15 18:29
DaemonFCnuts!Mar 15 18:29
DaemonFCas in DAMMIT!!!!Mar 15 18:29
MinceR"I've got balls of steel!"Mar 15 18:30
schestowitzhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/zd/20100313/tc_zd/249176Mar 15 18:30
phIRCe-BNcTitle: SXSW: Cuban, Boxee Clash at Web TV Debate - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 117.56 KBMar 15 18:30
DaemonFCMinceR, I have balls of TriniumMar 15 18:30
schestowitzMinceR: better than blueballsMar 15 18:30
schestowitzI have bearing ballsMar 15 18:30
MinceRDaemonFC: did the Salish give them to you?Mar 15 18:30
schestowitzI need a patent on it nowMar 15 18:30
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/12/zaman_sentenced/Mar 15 18:31
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Programmer gets 4 years in TJX hack case • The Register .::. Size~: 18.58 KBMar 15 18:31
schestowitz". The balls come in many different grades, as defined by the American Bearing Manufacturers Association (ABMA), which defines the precision of the balls. They are manufactured in specially designed machines for the job."Mar 15 18:31
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_bearingMar 15 18:32
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Ball bearing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 55 KBMar 15 18:32
schestowitz"he Conrad bearing is named for its inventor, Robert Conrad, who got British patent 12,206 in 1903 and U.S. patent 822,723 in 1906. Probably the most familiar industrial ball bearing is the deep-groove Conrad style. The bearing is used in most of the mechanical industries."Mar 15 18:32
schestowitz107 years oldMar 15 18:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New to twitter, @emacs_user . Consider following him.Mar 15 18:35
schestowitzGo ahead, add him...Mar 15 18:35
MinceRyou dare us?Mar 15 18:36
schestowitzNo, not reallyMar 15 18:37
schestowitzHe's a friend who has just joinedMar 15 18:37
MinceR:)Mar 15 18:37
schestowitzHe doesn't quite know the thingMar 15 18:37
schestowitzHe's from the UKMar 15 18:38
schestowitzBN in China?!? http://www.chineselinuxuniversity.net/news/75458.shtmlMar 15 18:39
phIRCe-BNcTitle: The Microsoft Elephant in the Open Source Room -- Linux,C,C++,Java,Ajax,XML,perl,php,python,ruby,MySQL,Gnome,KDE,Qt,Gtk,bash,shell,嵌入式,网络,信息安全,操作系统,数据结构,编译原理 .::. Size~: 21.01 KBMar 15 18:39
schestowitzThey seem to be mirroring stufffMar 15 18:39
MinceR:)Mar 15 18:40
*schestowitz sods off to watch some videosMar 15 18:40
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DaemonFChmm, I found some money for my Aunt tooMar 15 18:43
DaemonFC$25Mar 15 18:43
DaemonFCcalled and told her :)Mar 15 18:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @emacs_user: Brenda and her spawn will take longer to die on the vine than imperial measurements. The nation state is dead and buried.Mar 15 18:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @schestowitz lol he has just replied a tweet I made.Mar 15 18:49
schestowitzThis guy makes great videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyd6om8IC4MMar 15 18:52
phIRCe-BNcTitle: YouTube- Why do people laugh at creationists? (part 29) .::. Size~: 161.1 KBMar 15 18:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @satipera yesh, he's new hereMar 15 18:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @schestowitz how do you know the bloke?Mar 15 18:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @satipera InternetMar 15 18:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Conf call with jorge done, just popped on Blood Red Throne's 'Come Death' - love this album!Mar 15 18:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @schestowitz I assumed that. You could not have said less.Mar 15 19:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @schestowitz Not to worry you think he is a good bloke that is fine with me.Mar 15 19:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Tomorrow at 11am PST / 2pm EST / 6pm GMT I will be doing a live videocast about the Ubuntu Global Jam http://is.gd/aIpCh #ubuntuMar 15 19:08
phIRCe-BNcTitle:                   Ubuntu Global Jam Videocast | jonobacon@home                     .::. Size~: 24.57 KBMar 15 19:08
DaemonFCschestowitz, Notice the spike in Silverlight 4 RC news?Mar 15 19:12
DaemonFCsudden spike evenMar 15 19:12
Diablo-D3I should write some news about itMar 15 19:13
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Diablo-D3"silverlight 4 still fails to run on linux, the world's most important platform"Mar 15 19:13
Diablo-D3and then close comments for the blog entryMar 15 19:13
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] WTF is NullReferenceRxception? Trying instanstiate a custom control using parameterized construtor :( . Man i wanna sleep :| . #helpMar 15 19:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[emacs_user] @schestowitz: I don'r really have much to say right now. I'm off out to check out the 'desert of the real''Mar 15 19:28
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Curious about how to downloada file without freezing your GUI? Gio and Async! http://is.gd/aIsrC #gnome #python #opportunisticdevelopersMar 15 19:49
phIRCe-BNcTitle:                   Download Files Async With Gio And Python | jonobacon@home                     .::. Size~: 29.33 KBMar 15 19:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Time for lunch a little of Born From Pain's 'Survival'Mar 15 19:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @emacs_user cool, well... be back later.Mar 15 20:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] @schestowitz Sure Sure Sure Sure Sure !!!Mar 15 20:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @eduvid thanks! See the translations in the front page http://ur1.ca/pvet (along the top). We just need the text from "Introduction"Mar 15 20:19
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Main Page - Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 23.01 KBMar 15 20:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Watching children of Gaza on channel 4, Israel is well beyond the pale of civilised behaviour. #palestine #occupationMar 15 20:25
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] Watching children of Gaza on channel 4, Israel is well beyond the pale of civilised behaviour. #palestine #occupationMar 15 20:27
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @moreati: @jonobacon Would you mention to your legions that #europython is July 19 to 22 in Birmingham http://www.europython.eu/Mar 15 20:45
phIRCe-BNcTitle: EuroPython 2010: The European Python Conference .::. Size~: 13.81 KBMar 15 20:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Robert Ancell is a freaking rock-star - I love how deliciously simple Simple Scan really is #ubuntu #gnomeMar 15 20:47
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @BarackObama: In these final days before a vote on health reform, make your voice heard: http://j.mp/crVJ80Mar 15 21:02
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Organizing for America | BarackObama.com  |  Final March for Reform .::. Size~: 42.52 KBMar 15 21:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] No, I'm not your %"$#%&" little toy soldier. If I liked stupid orders, I'd be in the army.Mar 15 21:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] My apologies to army people, I should not have compared you as you're way wiser in your decision in comparison.Mar 15 21:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: Brazil Starts Public Consult On Retaliation Against US IP Rights - http://bit.ly/aTea6i what happened to Antigua? #us #brazilMar 15 21:17
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Intellectual Property Watch  » Blog Archive   » Brazil Starts Public Consult On Retaliation Against US IP Rights .::. Size~: 39.57 KBMar 15 21:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Soon After Completion of my Current Project I will say "Goodbye Ubuntu" and "Hello Trisquel" http://trisquel.info/en #ubuntu #trisquel #freeMar 15 21:34
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Trisquel GNU/Linux | ¡Vai por libre! .::. Size~: 20.02 KBMar 15 21:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Install 'vrms' command in your GNU/Linux Distro as check how many non-free software you are using ! #use Free sofrwareMar 15 21:42
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Atlas2070its enderMar 15 21:44
Atlas2070lol @ bioware 2 DLCMar 15 21:44
Atlas2070the content was already on the diskMar 15 21:44
Atlas2070$5 extra to unlock the rest of the game, lolMar 15 21:45
DaemonFCAtlas2070, If you're an illegal Mexican alien, let us count youMar 15 21:47
DaemonFCwe won't send you back to shitass MexicoMar 15 21:47
DaemonFCwe'll give you more welfare!Mar 15 21:47
DaemonFCB-)Mar 15 21:47
Atlas2070lolMar 15 21:54
DaemonFCAtlas2070, I filled mine outMar 15 21:58
DaemonFClast thing we need is to lose a seat in Congress to Missouri or TexasMar 15 21:58
DaemonFCthey're already going to get quite enoughMar 15 21:58
DaemonFCAtlas, the only good news is that more of the south is becoming competitive due to the influx of northernersMar 15 22:01
DaemonFCover the next 10 years you'll see less of the solid red southern stateMar 15 22:01
DaemonFC:PMar 15 22:01
DaemonFCeven Texas may be up for grabs by 2020Mar 15 22:02
DaemonFCooooohhhhh, scaryMar 15 22:02
DaemonFCit's actually eerily reminiscent of the slavery yearsMar 15 22:03
DaemonFCthe illegal aliens as population but don't get a voteMar 15 22:03
DaemonFCthat's what they did with slavesMar 15 22:03
DaemonFCthe south loved having the slaves counted to determine their power in Congress, but they couldn't vote for anyoneMar 15 22:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Beautifying the #GNU #Linux Desktop http://ur1.ca/pvwp KDE4 looks fantastic. http://ur1.ca/pvwqMar 15 22:05
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Tech Blog  » Beautify Your Desktop : An Open Letter .::. Size~: 46.65 KBMar 15 22:05
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Remaining time in the Battery Monitor widget « Who Says Penguins Can't Fly? .::. Size~: 31.47 KBMar 15 22:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Just finished interviewing @ivanka for @uupc. Was rather excellent.Mar 15 22:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNOME Desktop Environment Finds Accessibility Resolution http://ur1.ca/pvwy also see http://ur1.ca/pvwzMar 15 22:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Fired up 'Burning The Masses' legendary 'Mind Control' - awesome!Mar 15 22:07
phIRCe-BNcTitle: GNOME and Project:Possibility: collaboration in open source accessibility at OSS Watch team blog .::. Size~: 39.57 KBMar 15 22:07
phIRCe-BNcTitle: GNOME Foundation Charter: Ive read it. Have you? .::. Size~: 28.76 KBMar 15 22:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #BestBuy Still Playing Hardball Against #GNU #Linux http://linusearch.com/wordpress/?p=719Mar 15 22:08
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Linux and Whatever  » Blog Archive   » HP Deskjet D2680 Review .::. Size~: 12.01 KBMar 15 22:08
Atlas2070i've read the charterMar 15 22:08
Atlas2070lots of people didMar 15 22:08
Atlas2070it was brought up ad-nauseum during the GNU split ideaMar 15 22:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Kernel Foundation-Dominated Linux.com Turns 1 http://ur1.ca/pvxd #linuxMar 15 22:09
Atlas2070DaemonFC - im talk to someone in #fedora-kde about you and atiMar 15 22:09
Atlas2070what card do you ownMar 15 22:09
DaemonFCHD 4670 Mar 15 22:09
Atlas2070is that r7xxx or r8xxxMar 15 22:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Medical Imaging Software for #GNU #Linux http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/2010030916055813/MedicalImaging.htmlMar 15 22:11
DaemonFC740 I thinkMar 15 22:11
DaemonFChttp://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2010-March/049620.htmlMar 15 22:12
DaemonFC:)Mar 15 22:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Win32 on #GNU #Linux Trivial Thanks to New Software http://ur1.ca/pufu http://ur1.ca/pvy7Mar 15 22:13
phIRCe-BNcTitle:  CrossOver Linux 9: Run Windows apps without Windows .::. Size~: 121.05 KBMar 15 22:13
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Windows on Linux .::. Size~: 38.23 KBMar 15 22:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IBM to Broadcast Video About Servers With #GNU #Linux This Wednesday http://ur1.ca/pvyeMar 15 22:14
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Webcast: Cloud Computing Made Easy with IBM and Linux | Blog | Bob Sutor .::. Size~: 74.41 KBMar 15 22:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Folks, I will be live in the Severed Fifth studio at 6pm PST tonight - watch live at http://is.gd/aIBDS #severedfifthMar 15 22:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Many Key #GNU #Linux Distributions Approach Final Release http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,10015329o-2000498448b,00.htmMar 15 22:15
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Severed Fifth: Live In The Studio on USTREAM: Tune in to watch the second Severed Fifth album as it is written, recorded and produced.. Rock .::. Size~: 52.83 KBMar 15 22:15
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Community on ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 112.52 KBMar 15 22:15
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Lightweight #GNU #Linux Distribution Help Where PCs Are Seen as Obsolete http://ur1.ca/pvz4 http://ur1.ca/pvz5Mar 15 22:17
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Far Beyond the Edge of Reason: Switching to Slackware .::. Size~: 75.41 KBMar 15 22:17
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Thats not bloated, thats clinically obese « Motho ke motho ka botho .::. Size~: 57.22 KBMar 15 22:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] receitas da edição DVD (taxa cobrada p/IGAC, cuja utilização é desconhecida, e que na última década significou dezenas de milhões de euros)Mar 15 22:22
Atlas2070hey daemonMar 15 22:22
Atlas2070[18:13] <Kevin_Kofler> He should just have installed mesa-dri-drivers-experimental on the standard F12 mesa.Mar 15 22:23
Atlas2070[18:13] <Kevin_Kofler> In F13, those drivers will be installed by default.Mar 15 22:23
Atlas2070nvmMar 15 22:24
Atlas2070not 7.8Mar 15 22:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mandriva Updates, #PCLinuxOS 2010 Beta Gets Another Fantastic Review http://ur1.ca/pw15 http://ur1.ca/pw16Mar 15 22:26
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Frederik's Blog  » Blog Archive   » Noteworthy Mandriva Cooker changes 1 March – 14 March 2010 - Random thoughts of a Linux sysadmin  .::. Size~: 15.1 KBMar 15 22:26
phIRCe-BNcTitle: The Red Devil: PCLinuxOS 2010 Beta 1: A First Look .::. Size~: 98.54 KBMar 15 22:26
DaemonFCThe 7.7 package has themMar 15 22:26
Atlas2070they are just slow rightMar 15 22:26
DaemonFCthe 7.8 package has newer and better onesMar 15 22:26
DaemonFCreal slowMar 15 22:26
Atlas2070yeahMar 15 22:26
Atlas2070he says its lucky that you got them workingMar 15 22:26
DaemonFCMesa packages don't really have any nasty external dependenciesMar 15 22:27
Atlas2070yeah I know you're just lucky not much is different in mesa itself between 7.7 and 7.8Mar 15 22:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Plans Event in Spain (Where #GNU #Linux Adoption is High) http://www.ameinfo.com/226697.htmlMar 15 22:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Portuguese cinema people complain about tax on media: unknown use/destination, should be used to finance portuguese cinema art.Mar 15 22:28
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Red Hat and JBoss to host third annual EMEA Partner Summit in Spain | Red Hat | AMEinfo.com .::. Size~: 37.67 KBMar 15 22:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Check petition on «MANIFESTO PELO CINEMA PORTUGUÊS» http://s3g.me/6ekMar 15 22:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Debian Project ( #GNU #Linux ) Has Conferences and Elections Coming http://ur1.ca/pw1hMar 15 22:29
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Petição Pública Confirmação .::. Size~: 13.98 KBMar 15 22:29
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Debian: DebConf10 & 2010 Project Leader Elections - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 35.43 KBMar 15 22:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Vi Makes Devices http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/15/nano_note/Mar 15 22:33
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Dedicated Vi device vies for buyers • The Register .::. Size~: 32.25 KBMar 15 22:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Co-inventor of #XML Opts for #Linux Future http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20000423-264.htmlMar 15 22:35
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Web guru Tim Bray takes Google Android job | Deep Tech - CNET News .::. Size~: 158.14 KBMar 15 22:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Amanhã, Seminários IST de 2010 onde participo no debate sobre Software Livre às 11:30 http://tr.im/S0yJ Infelizmente só mesmo nessa hora :|Mar 15 22:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Tablets Running #GNU #Linux Are Here http://ur1.ca/pw2w http://ur1.ca/pw2y http://ur1.ca/pw2zMar 15 22:36
phIRCe-BNcTitle:         Seminários IST-Tagus 2010        &mdash;        ANSOL     .::. Size~: 51.62 KBMar 15 22:36
phIRCe-BNcTitle: CrunchPad spin-off JooJoo spins up for launch .::. Size~: 159.01 KBMar 15 22:36
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Ubuntu i-Pad clones soon? | GHABUNTU .::. Size~: 91.03 KBMar 15 22:36
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Roundup: E-Readers | Wired.com Product Reviews .::. Size~: 55.35 KBMar 15 22:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Secret Features in Transparent Code http://ur1.ca/pw34Mar 15 22:37
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Cracking open five of the best open source easter eggs .::. Size~: 28.83 KBMar 15 22:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why #Gnash Can be Better Than #Flash and Help the Web http://ur1.ca/pw37 #adobe #flush #flush #flushMar 15 22:38
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Gnash for flash freedom « Drascus's Blog .::. Size~: 21.48 KBMar 15 22:38
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] South Americans Reply to Smears of #FreeSoftware from the #Copyright #Cartel http://ur1.ca/oskqMar 15 22:49
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Special 301 Report versus Free Software: Strong-arm tactics are the only way proprietary software can compete : northxsouth : free software news from latin america .::. Size~: 26.41 KBMar 15 22:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat on #FreeSoftware @RIT http://opensource.com/education/10/3/course-co-op-lifecycle-openinnovationritMar 15 22:51
phIRCe-BNcTitle: The Course-to-Co-op Lifecycle: OpenInnovation@RIT  | opensource.com .::. Size~: 38.46 KBMar 15 22:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Rackspace Carries Free #Databases Software Talent http://ur1.ca/pw5lMar 15 22:54
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Rackspace hires to align with MySQL offshoot - BusinessWeek .::. Size~: 46.79 KBMar 15 22:54
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Government Would be Assisted by #FreeSoftware http://opensource.com/government/10/3/open-source-matters-open-government-reallyMar 15 22:56
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Open source matters to open government. Really. | opensource.com .::. Size~: 44.45 KBMar 15 22:56
sebsebsebHiMar 15 22:56
bruce89what do people feel about copyright assignment?Mar 15 22:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at Alpha of #Haiku , #OpenBSD 4.7 is Coming http://ur1.ca/pti6 http://ur1.ca/pw64Mar 15 22:57
phIRCe-BNcTitle: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. .::. Size~: 104.66 KBMar 15 22:57
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Slashdot BSD Story | OpenBSD 4.7 Preorders Are Up .::. Size~: 149.18 KBMar 15 22:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Tips for Programming with #GTK +GUI-producing Layer, Creating #ODF http://ur1.ca/pw6i http://ur1.ca/pw6jMar 15 22:59
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Getting Started with GTK and GLade for GUI programming | Techie Blogger .::. Size~: 35.06 KBMar 15 22:59
phIRCe-BNcTitle: How to correctly create ODF documents using zip - Lone Wolves - Web, game, and open source development .::. Size~: 23.99 KBMar 15 22:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Possible killer feature for #status.net: p2p protocol like bittorrent with dhtMar 15 23:09
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Batman vs a shark, using a lightsaber http://ur1.ca/pw8w #wtfMar 15 23:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Privacy Violations at #Netflix , #Censorship in #Venezuela http://ur1.ca/pw9l http://ur1.ca/pqkgMar 15 23:19
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Netflix Settles Privacy Lawsuit, Cancels Prize Sequel «  The Firewall - Forbes.com .::. Size~: 34.94 KBMar 15 23:19
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Venezuela's Chavez calls for internet controls| Reuters .::. Size~: 57.43 KBMar 15 23:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ACTA Loses Support http://ur1.ca/ovmw http://ur1.ca/pw9s http://ur1.ca/pw9t http://ur1.ca/pw9uMar 15 23:21
phIRCe-BNcTitle: The spread of counterfeiting: Knock-offs catch on | The Economist .::. Size~: 57.39 KBMar 15 23:21
phIRCe-BNcTitle: ✍ Actually I Do Care « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 40.61 KBMar 15 23:21
phIRCe-BNcTitle:   Michael Geist to keynote PublicACTA - InternetNZ  : InternetNZ Blog .::. Size~: 26 KBMar 15 23:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Proof That #Patent Law Has Lost Its Cause http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000002645 #uspto #fail #nojokeMar 15 23:22
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Against Monopoly  .::. Size~: 21.16 KBMar 15 23:22
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Walmart fires legal medical marijuana user with inoperatable brain tumor http://ur1.ca/pwa7 #douchebagsMar 15 23:27
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] US government planned to take down #WikiLeaks, the #terrorists have already won http://ur1.ca/pwat #douchbagsMar 15 23:27
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Walmart fires Michigan man for using medical marijuana  | wzzm13.com | Grand Rapids, MI  .::. Size~: 95.21 KBMar 15 23:27
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | US Intelligence Planned To Destroy WikiLeaks .::. Size~: 173.76 KBMar 15 23:27
bruce89sebsebseb: there you do, that's government controlMar 15 23:28
sebsebsebbruce89: what?Mar 15 23:29
bruce89wikileaks aboeMar 15 23:29
sebsebsebbruce89: not sure what your fering to it's just a load more notices/tweets  from schestowitzMar 15 23:31
sebsebsebfering?? that's oddMar 15 23:31
sebsebsebhow that got typedMar 15 23:31
sebsebsebwhen I wanted to put, on aboutMar 15 23:31
sebsebsebbruce89: I don't go on most of the links that given out in here, some I go onMar 15 23:32
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Qubits, hyper-entanglement, and cats http://ur1.ca/pway !scienceMar 15 23:32
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Controlling multiple qubits with hyper-entanglement .::. Size~: 26.49 KBMar 15 23:32
bruce89nor do I, just sounds bad by the headlineMar 15 23:32
sebsebsebbruce89: I don't know which one you are refering toMar 15 23:33
sebsebsebbruce89: oh the US goverment oneMar 15 23:33
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] So, is this like reverse trolling the Trololo guy? http://ur1.ca/pwc0Mar 15 23:37
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Trololo guy watches fans imitate him on YouTube - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 45.08 KBMar 15 23:37
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Fired up Bury My Sins and their 'King Of All Fears' album.Mar 15 23:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Getting a teensy bit bored of 'pressing enter key blows away any open apps I had' in Ubuntu Lucid now.Mar 15 23:46
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] New Orleans operates outside of the law, harasses photographers, professional and otherwise http://ur1.ca/pwdcMar 15 23:47
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Suit Claims Police Harass Journalists And Bystanders - WWL - AM870 | FM105.3  |  News | Talk | Sports  .::. Size~: 90.93 KBMar 15 23:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Apple Sues HTC For Patent Infringement, Shoots Self in Foot in Front of Information Technology Staffers Worldwide http://bit.ly/ap6tIwMar 15 23:52
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Apple Sues HTC For Patent Infringement, Shoots Self in Foot in Front of Information Technology Staffers Worldwide «  Through the Looking Glass .::. Size~: 92.06 KBMar 15 23:52
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] New Orleans may operate outside of the law, but Georgia operates outside any form of logic or common sense http://ur1.ca/pwdqMar 15 23:52
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Then again, doesn't this mean #GlennBeck is probably a sex offender by Georgia's reasoning?Mar 15 23:52
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Ga. Supreme Court rebuffs sex offender registry challenge  | ajc.com .::. Size~: 58.39 KBMar 15 23:52
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Reggie Watts - Fuck Shit Stack http://ur1.ca/pwex #epicMar 15 23:57
phIRCe-BNcTitle: LOOSEWORLD x Waverly Films: Reggie Watts in F_CK SH_T STACK on Vimeo .::. Size~: 80.65 KBMar 15 23:57

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