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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I know | Mar 17 00:28 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Quebec Authorities Should be Sued Again for #Microsoft Corruption; #BECTA Should Too http://ur1.ca/q31m | Mar 17 00:35 | |
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| schestowitz | "@schestowitz if nothing else, it will get them to waste more money brainwashing customers into seeing security their way" http://identi.ca/notice/25000688 | Mar 17 00:37 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: menn (openuniverse) 's status on Tuesday, 16-Mar-10 23:14:51 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.38 KB | Mar 17 00:37 |
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| _goblin | good evening all | Mar 17 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | this is funny | Mar 17 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | the convenience store I go get lunch at sometimes has coupons in the paper | Mar 17 00:43 |
| schestowitz | Hey, _goblin | Mar 17 00:43 |
| schestowitz | Did you watch what I pinged you | Mar 17 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | and the coupons are their normal menu prices for those items | Mar 17 00:43 |
| _goblin | no.... | Mar 17 00:44 |
| _goblin | where? Twitter? | Mar 17 00:44 |
| _goblin | ah | Mar 17 00:44 |
| _goblin | got it. | Mar 17 00:44 |
| _goblin | Watching it now | Mar 17 00:45 |
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| _goblin | Is that a Mame arcade cabinet I see?..... | Mar 17 00:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Looks good....is that a Mame Cabinet I see adorning his living room! Good effort! | Mar 17 00:51 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Just now watching Raw.. Stone Cold has just spent the last few minutes dribbling on about nothing...yawn. This is NOT wrestling. #wwe #tna | Mar 17 01:02 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Not a big John Cena fan, but at least his appearance has finally shut Steve Austin up. #wwe #tna | Mar 17 01:03 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h18cDX6PuFXpdEc3JIHpQRFMapvAD9EFR7QG0 | Mar 17 01:04 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: The Associated Press: Ohio executes inmate who killed neighbor in 1994 .::. Size~: 12.84 KB | Mar 17 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | "A death row inmate who tried to kill himself last week by overdosing on pills as his legal challenges dried up was executed Tuesday for robbing and strangling his neighbor in 1994." | Mar 17 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | The death row version of "You can't fire me, I quit!!!" | Mar 17 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | hehehe | Mar 17 01:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im not sure why they didnt just let him | Mar 17 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | cause then you get the anti-death penalty activists in a stir | Mar 17 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | has to be painless | Mar 17 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | if he kills himself, they'll say he was suffering mental anguish | Mar 17 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | and that's cruel and unusual | Mar 17 01:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | but | Mar 17 01:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | he WAS suffering mental anguish | Mar 17 01:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | his own | Mar 17 01:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | he killed someone | Mar 17 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | well, rightly so | Mar 17 01:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | if he _wasnt_ suffering mental anguish, then hes a cold blooded killer and shouldnt have even made it to trial | Mar 17 01:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean, the state basically took away his ability to atone for his sins | Mar 17 01:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | and thats wrong, immoral, and violated his religious rights | Mar 17 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | no they didn't | Mar 17 01:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | suicide is a perfectly acceptable way of atoning for sins | Mar 17 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | he can pray to whatever gods he wants before it's time | Mar 17 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | he can use his last words to apologize to the victims family | Mar 17 01:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | he may be on death row, but he has rights. | Mar 17 01:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | instead, he made everybody in the state of ohio murderers. | Mar 17 01:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | and now they will have to atone for _that_ sin. | Mar 17 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | I support the death sentence | Mar 17 01:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | I don't. | Mar 17 01:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | We don't have that right. | Mar 17 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | in fact, I think we're not applying it enough | Mar 17 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | Texas did pass that law where if 3 or more credible witnesses saw you do what you did, you're at the front of the line | Mar 17 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | limited appeals | Mar 17 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | I think we should copy that | Mar 17 01:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | I think we should sell texas back to mexico | Mar 17 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | California is hardly a model government | Mar 17 01:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | DaemonFC, take your meds, you're acting stupid again | Mar 17 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | part of their problem is overcrowding prisons with murderers and rapists that they can't get rid of | Mar 17 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.icanhasmotivation.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/suicide.jpg | Mar 17 01:12 |
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| MinceR | :) | Mar 17 01:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Someone alleges that #Microsoft is playing dirty on #Windows in order to suppress the use of #Google http://ur1.ca/q36g | Mar 17 01:17 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Does Microsoft Tinker With the Search Bar in Firefox? | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 101.69 KB | Mar 17 01:17 |
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| lpbbear | eeeck, I'm in print! | Mar 17 01:27 |
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| bruce89 | didn't stay long to gloat | Mar 17 01:30 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Stephen Harper: "The reason drugs are illegal is because they are bad"--but over-simple, authoritarian positions are OK. Tosser. #canada | Mar 17 01:45 | |
| MinceR | gn | Mar 17 01:54 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@WesBEnterprise Where's the Outrage? #Obama wants all arrested to give #DNA. http://bit.ly/ay8Ykk // i don't support such policies | Mar 17 02:06 | |
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| DaemonFC | Michigan already does collect DNA when you're arrested | Mar 17 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | even ifthey never press charges | Mar 17 02:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] If u're not aware the toxic #Aspartame in "diet" soda is making you sick (& overweight) - probably time to look into it. http://bit.ly/qwjvq | Mar 17 02:09 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Aspartame (Nutrasweet) Toxicity Information Center .::. Size~: 87.46 KB | Mar 17 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | bullshit | Mar 17 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | YES! That's what the government wants, a lot of sick disabled people that take YEARS to die!" | Mar 17 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | That's great for the economy! | Mar 17 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | Why didn't I think of this? | Mar 17 02:10 |
| bruce89 | Britain does DNA taking already | Mar 17 02:10 |
| bruce89 | in E&W, forever | Mar 17 02:10 |
| bruce89 | in Scotland, I think it has to be destroyed if you're not guilty | Mar 17 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | Why can't the conspiracy nuts leave it at something PLAUSIBLE? I could see the motivation to put shit into "vaccines" to make you sterile | Mar 17 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | I can't see the logic behind making people sick and unable to work | Mar 17 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | Why would the government, any government, want more sick and disabled people that are a burden on it? | Mar 17 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | I could see sterilization or quick death as plausible | Mar 17 02:13 |
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| DaemonFC | but it never is "quick death" because that's easy to prove it's not happening | Mar 17 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | and sterilizations are something I could agree with | Mar 17 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | the people that they should sterilize or kill would be the ones with 10 kids filling up a trailer and on all kinds of government handouts | Mar 17 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | so they'd target that, not diet soda which everyone drinks | Mar 17 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | I find it convenient that these people claim thousands of deaths due to "aspartame poisoning" which doesn't exist and you stump them when you say "Name three" | Mar 17 02:16 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_14630675 | Mar 17 02:27 |
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| schestowitz | > Roy Schestowitz wrote: > The US exports democracy with rootsquash, ro, | Mar 17 02:39 |
| schestowitz | > and other serious > limitations on the foreign users. -- Anthony de Boer | Mar 17 02:39 |
| schestowitz | > The domestic product is also nothing to write home about. | Mar 17 02:39 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Apple Sues HTC For Patent Infringement - Mad Hatter Article Confuses Everybody http://bit.ly/dCASyX | Mar 17 02:45 | |
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| DaemonFC | Ubuntu Lucid beta should be here tomorrow | Mar 17 02:47 |
| cubezzz2 | what's the video capture proggie for linux again? | Mar 17 02:49 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/24969476 | Mar 17 02:51 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz2: : gtk-recordmydesktop | Mar 17 02:52 |
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| cubezzz2 | thank you! | Mar 17 02:52 |
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| schestowitz | gn | Mar 17 03:02 |
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| Diablo-D3 | is the identica bot down again | Mar 17 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | what the hell is with the Tix clock? | Mar 17 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | who can read one? | Mar 17 04:16 |
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| cubezzz2 | do new video cards still do 320x240? | Mar 17 06:24 |
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| DaemonFC | cubezzz, None that I know of | Mar 17 06:30 |
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| DaemonFC | ryan@ryan-desktop:~$ vrms | Mar 17 06:37 |
| DaemonFC | No non-free or contrib packages installed on ryan-desktop! rms would be proud. | Mar 17 06:37 |
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| Balrog | DaemonFC: my ARM box is the same :) | Mar 17 06:41 |
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| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: :) | Mar 17 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | only one was installed to begin with | Mar 17 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | nvidia-common | Mar 17 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | whatever that was | Mar 17 06:42 |
| Balrog | this is a headless ARM box anyway | Mar 17 06:42 |
| Balrog | so it shouldn't need any nonfree packages | Mar 17 06:42 |
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| cubezzz2 | headless ARM box? | Mar 17 06:45 |
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| Balrog | yea | Mar 17 06:46 |
| Balrog | marvell sheevaplug | Mar 17 06:46 |
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| Balrog | http://computingplugs.com/index.php/Main_Page // http://plugcomputer.org/ | Mar 17 06:47 |
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| cubezzz2 | ah, I wondered it might be that | Mar 17 06:47 |
| Balrog | debian squeeze on it | Mar 17 06:47 |
| Balrog | nice box | Mar 17 06:47 |
| cubezzz2 | at least zaurus as LCD :) | Mar 17 06:47 |
| Balrog | why LCD? | Mar 17 06:47 |
| Balrog | there's a USB port that provides serial console out | Mar 17 06:48 |
| cubezzz2 | same here | Mar 17 06:48 |
| Balrog | you've got one of those? :) | Mar 17 06:48 |
| Balrog | or zaurus? | Mar 17 06:48 |
| cubezzz2 | I have zaurus with usb connection to my main box | Mar 17 06:48 |
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| cubezzz2 | so I ssh in a lot | Mar 17 06:49 |
| Balrog | you mean usb ethernet? | Mar 17 06:49 |
| cubezzz2 | yes | Mar 17 06:49 |
| Balrog | I have one but the power control circuitry has issues | Mar 17 06:49 |
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| cubezzz2 | I've heard of sheevaplug, I'll probably get one eventually | Mar 17 06:49 |
| Balrog | I wonder when v.3 will be released | Mar 17 06:50 |
| Balrog | it's nice though | Mar 17 06:50 |
| Balrog | only $99 and can do a lot | Mar 17 06:50 |
| cubezzz2 | does sheevaplug have temp sensors? | Mar 17 06:50 |
| Balrog | hmm not sure | Mar 17 06:50 |
| Balrog | how to tell? | Mar 17 06:50 |
| cubezzz2 | ah, lm-sensors maybe? | Mar 17 06:51 |
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| cubezzz2 | maybe it never overheats? :) | Mar 17 06:51 |
| Balrog | it's really low power | Mar 17 06:51 |
| Balrog | 4 watts usual | Mar 17 06:51 |
| Balrog | 8 watts max | Mar 17 06:51 |
| cubezzz2 | yeah, zaurus sl-5500 is quite similar | Mar 17 06:52 |
| Balrog | 1.2 GHz / 512 MB RAM | Mar 17 06:52 |
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| cubezzz2 | hardly anyone writes code for it now though | Mar 17 06:52 |
| Balrog | USB and SD, additional USB that has JTAG and serial | Mar 17 06:52 |
| cubezzz2 | wow, the sl-5500 is only 200 mhz | Mar 17 06:52 |
| Balrog | it also has eSATA but there's no port on the usual model | Mar 17 06:53 |
| Balrog | there are pads for it, so if you want to solder in a port and several additional components, you can | Mar 17 06:53 |
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| cubezzz2 | yeah, I'm looking for something portable now | Mar 17 06:54 |
| Balrog | this is not a portable thing | Mar 17 06:54 |
| Balrog | it's more like a server | Mar 17 06:54 |
| cubezzz2 | something I can do net stuff and carry around | Mar 17 06:54 |
| cubezzz2 | yeah | Mar 17 06:54 |
| Balrog | what's the command for lm-sensors? | Mar 17 06:55 |
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| cubezzz2 | assuming you have the package installed it's just /usr/bin/sensors | Mar 17 06:56 |
| Balrog | ok | Mar 17 06:56 |
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| Balrog | I think this may have killed it: | Mar 17 06:56 |
| Balrog | Do you want to scan for Super I/O sensors? (YES/no): YES | Mar 17 06:56 |
| cubezzz2 | crash? | Mar 17 06:56 |
| Balrog | yea, can't get back in | Mar 17 06:57 |
| Balrog | and I can't reboot it either | Mar 17 06:57 |
| cubezzz2 | ah, sorry :) | Mar 17 06:57 |
| Balrog | it's ok | Mar 17 06:57 |
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| Balrog | I'll just have someone hard reset it tomorrow | Mar 17 06:57 |
| cubezzz2 | I know not to try that now :) | Mar 17 06:57 |
| Balrog | yea can't get to it | Mar 17 06:58 |
| Balrog | :[ | Mar 17 06:58 |
| Balrog | "This is usually safe." | Mar 17 06:58 |
| cubezzz2 | my zaurus has been up over 100 days now | Mar 17 06:58 |
| Balrog | heh | Mar 17 06:58 |
| Balrog | nice | Mar 17 06:58 |
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| Balrog | well I'm out | Mar 17 06:59 |
| Balrog | later | Mar 17 06:59 |
| cubezzz2 | later | Mar 17 06:59 |
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| DaemonFC | heh, if you request an Ubuntu Server CD it's 64-bit only | Mar 17 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | the desktop CD is 32-bit only | Mar 17 07:04 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/03/gnome-music-applet-dead-long-live.html | Mar 17 09:08 |
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| DaemonFC | hmmm, an Indiana State Police officer left his loaded Glock 17 9mm handgun in a restroom at Lowes in Fort Wayne on Saturday | Mar 17 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | and will not be reprimanded for it | Mar 17 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | that's nice | Mar 17 09:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | DaemonFC: I would make a very big shit about it | Mar 17 09:10 |
| schestowitz | Odd one given the source: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4186 | Mar 17 09:13 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20100316/LOCAL07/303169997/1043 | Mar 17 09:14 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20100317/LOCAL07/303179977/1043 | Mar 17 09:15 |
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| oiaohm | http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/bizarre_cathedral_69 I like | Mar 17 09:20 |
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| Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: well | Mar 17 09:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | why be creative when you can just steal from the best | Mar 17 09:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | ... oh wait, thats an apple thing too >_> | Mar 17 09:22 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Gates Roundup: #Monsanto , Colonisation, #Clinton Ties, and Control of #Education http://ur1.ca/q4x8 #patents #pr | Mar 17 09:46 | |
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| schestowitz | http://paidcontent.org/article/419-across-the-board-job-cuts-reported-at-news-corp.s-ign/ | Mar 17 09:46 |
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| schestowitz | To Hell with Murdoch | Mar 17 09:46 |
| schestowitz | http://www.workswithu.com/2010/03/16/why-window-button-placement-doesnt-matter/ | Mar 17 09:48 |
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| schestowitz | Why even move it around? | Mar 17 09:48 |
| schestowitz | Where's the merit? | Mar 17 09:48 |
| schestowitz | http://paidcontent.org/article/419-ning-ceo-bianchini-quits/ | Mar 17 09:49 |
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| schestowitz | Did they ever get off the ground at all? | Mar 17 09:50 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601110&sid=a6bQVsZS2_18 | Mar 17 09:54 |
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| schestowitz | http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=1352 | Mar 17 09:56 |
| schestowitz | They had better options | Mar 17 09:56 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Not quite 6:00 AM, body screaming, wide awake. Guess I'll surf the net. | Mar 17 10:04 | |
| schestowitz | Different Ubuntu: http://www.pr.com/press-release/219237 | Mar 17 10:11 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_the_mad_hatter when you body screams then you surf? | Mar 17 10:12 | |
| schestowitz | Microsofters in Mark's blog: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/290#comment-324500 | Mar 17 10:20 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/14/russia-georgia-fake-invasion-report | Mar 17 10:30 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/index.php/news/content/view/full/87923 | Mar 17 10:31 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I may buy some municipal bonds :P | Mar 17 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | they're setting the rate pretty high on them since the Feds ordered them to make $14 million worth of improvements to the wastewater treatment system | Mar 17 10:32 |
| DaemonFC | question is, will they be solvent to pay them back | Mar 17 10:32 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Mar 17 10:32 |
| DaemonFC | that's the problem with investing in government debt | Mar 17 10:33 |
| DaemonFC | they can excuse themselves from having to pay you back | Mar 17 10:33 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, 2.6.32 is going to get support for a good long time | Mar 17 10:49 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu, Debian, RHEL, and SLES behind it | Mar 17 10:49 |
| oiaohm | Define a long time. | Mar 17 10:51 |
| oiaohm | 2 years normally. DaemonFC | Mar 17 10:52 |
| DaemonFC | well, the minor releases are being hit with quite a lot of patches | Mar 17 10:52 |
| DaemonFC | and yeah, that'll go on for longer than 2 years probably | Mar 17 10:52 |
| DaemonFC | cause realistically, it'll be in use for 5 years on Ubuntu, 7 on RHEL, and what's Suse policy? | Mar 17 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | yeah :) | Mar 17 10:53 |
| oiaohm | No | Mar 17 10:53 |
| oiaohm | RHEL updates kernels between stables. | Mar 17 10:53 |
| oiaohm | 2 years is redhats support time for a kernel. | Mar 17 10:54 |
| DaemonFC | then what is RHEL 4 using? | Mar 17 10:54 |
| oiaohm | 2.6.27 should cycle up to 2.6.33 | Mar 17 10:55 |
| oiaohm | Opps 2.6.32 | Mar 17 10:55 |
| oiaohm | Ie 2.6.27 was the last long term stable before 2.6.32 | Mar 17 10:56 |
| oiaohm | Even debian has mid stream cycling of kernels. | Mar 17 10:57 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] Demand democray now http://bit.ly/debatethebill | Mar 17 10:57 | |
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| oiaohm | 2.6.27.45 At the end of life long term stables are simple to spot. | Mar 17 10:58 |
| schestowitz | "@harrymccracken At Future of Publishing summit @ccoc noting that Google's Eric Schmidt says the company has a mobile-first strategy " v | Mar 17 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | 2.6.32.10 has 145 patches | Mar 17 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | yikes | Mar 17 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | that's big | Mar 17 11:00 |
| oiaohm | Long term stables get more patch work than the short term releases. | Mar 17 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | well, pretty much anything they fix along the way in later kernels gets backported, and that's the extent of the modifications done to the long term stable one, right? | Mar 17 11:01 |
| oiaohm | Thinking that a release is a few 1000 patches. | Mar 17 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | so the idea is no regressions, lots of things get fixed | Mar 17 11:01 |
| oiaohm | 145 is not many. | Mar 17 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | so that's important obviously because Linux tends to get buggier as it goes | Mar 17 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | and just using the latest kernel may not be smart | Mar 17 11:02 |
| oiaohm | Really not. | Mar 17 11:02 |
| oiaohm | Bug rate in Linux is fairly constant. | Mar 17 11:02 |
| oiaohm | Most of the backport issues releate to hardware. | Mar 17 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | last thing I heard about it was Linus saying they're adding bugs faster than fixing them | Mar 17 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | cause it's picking up all these new features before they've had a chance to be properly vetted | Mar 17 11:03 |
| oiaohm | Normally Linus temper. | Mar 17 11:03 |
| oiaohm | Stats don't back his stack blowing moment. | Mar 17 11:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Is #China schooling the US re human rights? http://ur1.ca/q564 http://ur1.ca/q565 | Mar 17 11:04 | |
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| DaemonFC | China just deletes whatever stats they don't want the international community to see | Mar 17 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | then they hypocritically point the finger at countries which are more open about what goes on inside them | Mar 17 11:05 |
| oiaohm | You are aware that 2.6.33 had less features added than 2.6.32 or 2.6.31 | Mar 17 11:05 |
| DaemonFC | yes | Mar 17 11:05 |
| DaemonFC | 2.6.33 was not really an exciting release | Mar 17 11:05 |
| oiaohm | Linux might at long last be reaching the end of the feature storm. | Mar 17 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't even bother to build it because there was nothing that really itnerested me enough | Mar 17 11:06 |
| oiaohm | Other than the video bits there is not much interesting in 2.6.34 either. | Mar 17 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | Nouveau, which is backported, TCP cookies! Wow! :P, ReiserFS work, does anyone still use that? | Mar 17 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | most of the RadeonHD stuff I care about is already in 2.6.32 or isn't even handled by the kernel at all | Mar 17 11:09 |
| oiaohm | TCP cookies are good for heavy network load. | Mar 17 11:09 |
| oiaohm | ReiserFS kinda required fixing because mounting a ReiserFS drive could cause you major problems. | Mar 17 11:10 |
| oiaohm | The Big Kernel Lock stuff is a major issue. Really I got pissed off at ReiserFS yelling at the Linux kernel developers from breaking there code. When it turned out they were depending on the system using the kernel lock. | Mar 17 11:12 |
| oiaohm | Ie not calling it themselves where it was need or using there own locks. | Mar 17 11:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] India’s Rural Cell Movement: Can You Hear Me Now? - http://tcrn.ch/91s14t why mobile is the future of computing #india #mobiles | Mar 17 11:16 | |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: http://www.blendernation.com/shapeways-switches-to-blender-for-on-line-rendering/ | Mar 17 11:16 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/mar/13/newspapers-internet | Mar 17 11:18 |
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| schestowitz | Hyperlink tax?? | Mar 17 11:18 |
| oiaohm | http://www.blendernation.com/blender-calculator-for-shapeways-printing-costs/ << Shapeways have been working with blender for a while. | Mar 17 11:21 |
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| schestowitz | http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/12/one-on-one-andrey-ternovskiy-creator-of-chatroulette/ | Mar 17 11:21 |
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| oiaohm | It was nice to see them using it on there site instead of there past I screw image up solution schestowitz | Mar 17 11:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Nice ending to a comment I read. "Less city and more citizen" | Mar 17 11:24 | |
| schestowitz | http://dickandgarlick.blogspot.com/2010/03/english-is-now-indias-second-language.html | Mar 17 11:24 |
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| oiaohm | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Squeak-4-0-released-now-under-MIT-Apache-license-956267.html I had forgot about this. | Mar 17 11:25 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody English is now India's second language - http://bit.ly/drfGPL big numbers, likely to grow #english #india | Mar 17 11:26 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Patent defence for free software by Andrew Tridgell http://i5.be/aCF | Mar 17 11:26 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] Nice ending to a comment I read. "Less city and more citizen" | Mar 17 11:27 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] @schestowitz one day English will dominate whole India. till this age, i met only 2-3 person who can speak correct & proper Hindi. | Mar 17 11:32 | |
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| schestowitz | http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/15/fandango-mobile-tickets/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Techcrunch+(TechCrunch)&utm_content=Google+Reader | Mar 17 11:41 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] So the best thing i could do this easter is forgive som 1 who broke my heart into pieces. *takes deep breath* | Mar 17 11:47 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: where does apache store mime type info? | Mar 17 11:48 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @schestowitz China is not schooling the USA in rights but reacting to their preaching where the USA is less qualified than they think. | Mar 17 11:50 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I would have to look that up have not been near that in ages. | Mar 17 12:01 |
| oiaohm | The old saying when it works you don't touch it. | Mar 17 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | War on en-GB, day three | Mar 17 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Mar 17 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | I've decided to apply my en-US spell checking dictionary to Wikipedia | Mar 17 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | whenever I see some article that deals with a predominantly American topic | Mar 17 12:02 |
| schestowitz | vim etc/mime.types | Mar 17 12:03 |
| schestowitz | Too many variations | Mar 17 12:03 |
| schestowitz | Different UNIXes | Mar 17 12:03 |
| oiaohm | Its magic | Mar 17 12:12 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: in the appache config directory look for the file magic | Mar 17 12:13 |
| oiaohm | Yes the Unix world warpness. mine type is magic | Mar 17 12:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] S&P has doubts about Greek economy, really? You don't say. A big enough conflict of interest would still have got Greece a AAA from them. | Mar 17 12:14 | |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, Do you have any idea when Gallium3d will support OpenGL 2.1 for Radeons? | Mar 17 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | I'd like my Sauerbraten back | Mar 17 12:14 |
| oiaohm | glsl has to be done as a major part of that. DaemonFC | Mar 17 12:15 |
| oiaohm | If you can predict the time frame of that you will have most of that worked out. | Mar 17 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | so what's the time frame? | Mar 17 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | will Mesa 7.9 have it? | Mar 17 12:15 |
| oiaohm | Hopefully. | Mar 17 12:16 |
| oiaohm | But process of making glsl work is building a complier | Mar 17 12:16 |
| oiaohm | That is not a developer friendly process | Mar 17 12:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #LCA 2010 Conference – Glyn Moody Keynote http://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/17/lca-2010-thursday-keynote/ #sharing | Mar 17 12:17 | |
| schestowitz | Can anyone with Firefox go to http://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/17/lca-2010-thursday-keynote/ ? | Mar 17 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | well, 7.9-devel is already hauling ass vs. 7.7 | Mar 17 12:17 |
| schestowitz | Does the video load up? | Mar 17 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | which is where most distros are at | Mar 17 12:17 |
| schestowitz | Do I need to restart apache for new mime type config to take effect? | Mar 17 12:17 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] S&P has doubts about Greek economy, really? You don't say. A big enough conflict of interest would still have got Greece a AAA from them. | Mar 17 12:17 | |
| DaemonFC | but compatibility with games is not improving really | Mar 17 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | beyond running them faster | Mar 17 12:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Just registered for the UPLS conference in STB, a central patent court to validate EU software patents without a directive http://i5.be/aCG | Mar 17 12:20 | |
| oiaohm | I think so but as I said I have not had to touch apache mine types in ages schestowitz | Mar 17 12:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] @satipera When the police are in riot gear firing tear gas at people protesting over the state of the economy, it's not a good sign. ;) | Mar 17 12:21 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: compatiblitity is basically stalled by opengl version being locked too low until the glsl stuff works | Mar 17 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, So most of it might be there, but they can't bump the GLSL version until it all works? | Mar 17 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | I figured that | Mar 17 12:22 |
| oiaohm | Ie a development keystone is glsl support. DaemonFC | Mar 17 12:22 |
| oiaohm | Yep. And the GLSL version blocks the opengl version from increasing as well. | Mar 17 12:23 |
| oiaohm | So 2.0 features might be fully functional but applciations cannot be told they are there until the GLSL works. | Mar 17 12:23 |
| oiaohm | And not seeing high enough opengl version causes lots of programs not even to bother trying running. | Mar 17 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | which explains the floors and walls missing in Sauerbraten | Mar 17 12:29 |
| DaemonFC | it says it needs 2.1, but Gallium3d supports 2.0 on my card | Mar 17 12:29 |
| MinceR | geekings | Mar 17 12:31 |
| oiaohm | 2.0 is what amd says they support by offical spec. | Mar 17 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | no | Mar 17 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | the proprietary driver supports 3.2 | Mar 17 12:33 |
| oiaohm | How much of that 3.2 is software | Mar 17 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | it's all hardware | Mar 17 12:34 |
| oiaohm | http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature << Sorry I was thinkign hardware value here. You most likely said currently displayed value | Mar 17 12:36 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/25050180 "@schestowitz not until they stop torturing and murdering dissidents, no" | Mar 17 12:37 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: do you get the video in http://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/17/lca-2010-thursday-keynote/ loaded up OK in Firefox? | Mar 17 12:38 |
| schestowitz | Or anyone with Firefox? | Mar 17 12:38 |
| schestowitz | They used .ogm extension | Mar 17 12:39 |
| schestowitz | Which is off | Mar 17 12:39 |
| schestowitz | Not ogg or ogv | Mar 17 12:39 |
| schestowitz | /off/odd/ | Mar 17 12:39 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/198325.asp | Mar 17 12:40 |
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| phIRCe-BNc | Hello World! | Mar 17 12:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @DaemonFC I think you have misunderstood what I was saying, not surprising in 140. Will elaborate if wanted. | Mar 17 12:49 | |
| oiaohm | Ok its being odd in iceweasel It comes up with a X as unplayable. | Mar 17 12:51 |
| oiaohm | Yet it saves. | Mar 17 12:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @DaemonFC Odd, I saw your message on the notification but it has not landed in twitter, identica, or gwibber. | Mar 17 12:56 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/17/AR2010031700560.html | Mar 17 13:00 |
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| DaemonFC | Texas sets out to rewrite American history | Mar 17 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | again | Mar 17 13:00 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: hmm. thanks. | Mar 17 13:00 |
| schestowitz | I put it as audio just in case | Mar 17 13:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] With online billing and communication have the Royal Mail just become largely deliverers of spam? | Mar 17 13:03 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Ridiculous: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/mar/13/newspapers-internet The "hyperlink tax"? Should people pay for linking? | Mar 17 13:04 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.prwatch.org/node/8942 | Mar 17 13:07 |
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| DaemonFC | http://lwn.net/Articles/137311/ | Mar 17 13:32 |
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| DaemonFC | rofl | Mar 17 13:32 |
| oiaohm | Thank god the quality of submits have improved since 2005 | Mar 17 13:37 |
| DaemonFC | I liked the part where he got to "and you abused sysfs in a way I didn't even think was possible!" | Mar 17 13:38 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, It's scary that IBM could try to submit code that bad | Mar 17 13:39 |
| oiaohm | http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/2/27/278 Anti-virus company funded. DaemonFC | Mar 17 13:41 |
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| oiaohm | And this is recent. | Mar 17 13:41 |
| oiaohm | The idea that there is not a quality control process is wrong. If it did not work Linux would be a complete disaster zone. | Mar 17 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, but IBM!!! | Mar 17 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | This isn't amateur night, it's IBM | Mar 17 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | how could IBM submit something so wrong? | Mar 17 13:44 |
| oiaohm | Deadlines rushed work. | Mar 17 13:44 |
| oiaohm | Just because they work for big companies don't mean that developers are not pushed past there limits. | Mar 17 13:45 |
| oiaohm | Now you think if this is what you can see in the Linux kernel a public place how bad is the code inside windows. DaemonFC | Mar 17 13:50 |
| DaemonFC | hiding all kinds of problems for sure | Mar 17 13:50 |
| DaemonFC | when that bit of Windows 2000 source leaked out, it showed how ugly just that little bit was | Mar 17 13:51 |
| DaemonFC | and how many hacks they implemented to get so many other programs working | Mar 17 13:51 |
| MinceR | and probably to keep some programs from working | Mar 17 13:52 |
| oiaohm | Really MS has a shim system. To mask dlls for compadiblity reasons. | Mar 17 13:54 |
| oiaohm | So hacking the core is techically not required MinceR | Mar 17 13:54 |
| DaemonFC | not anymore it isn't | Mar 17 13:56 |
| DaemonFC | it was | Mar 17 13:56 |
| oiaohm | shims system is still in windows 7 | Mar 17 13:56 |
| DaemonFC | They did use a shim to make Firefox work right on Vista for the first few months | Mar 17 13:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 17 13:57 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: that doesn't mean old cruft doesn't hang around | Mar 17 13:57 |
| oiaohm | Yet there are still nasty sections of code turning up at core. | Mar 17 13:57 |
| oiaohm | Ie MinceR the old cruft should not be hanging around. But I know it is. | Mar 17 13:57 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Can we allow sentencing policy to be influenced by grieving parents and the media? Hard though it sounds is too much attention paid to both? | Mar 17 14:32 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] Can we allow sentencing policy to be influenced by grieving parents and the media? Hard though it sounds is too much attention paid to both? | Mar 17 14:32 | |
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| schestowitz | what's up with Texas??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gknGpafFsjk | Mar 17 14:33 |
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| schestowitz | Is it true? | Mar 17 14:33 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I don't doubt it | Mar 17 14:52 |
| DaemonFC | they've got some real crazies out there | Mar 17 14:52 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They could call the book American History Tex | Mar 17 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | I suppose | Mar 17 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Mar 17 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/03/17/catholic.ireland.abuse/ | Mar 17 15:02 |
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| DaemonFC | "We're sorry we failed to hide them from you" - Father Dick Cheney | Mar 17 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Mar 17 15:02 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Morning lovely people of the tubes, how is your day going so far? | Mar 17 15:19 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: related to it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z55oWS5vaUM | Mar 17 15:21 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, That guy on there looks weird | Mar 17 15:22 |
| schestowitz | jono is chirpy again | Mar 17 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | you notice that? | Mar 17 15:22 |
| schestowitz | Which one? | Mar 17 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | guy in the blue suit | Mar 17 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | first one | Mar 17 15:22 |
| jono | schestowitz :) | Mar 17 15:22 |
| jono | DaemonFC, come on, bring me down | Mar 17 15:22 |
| jono | :P | Mar 17 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | jono, Your mother designed indicator-applet | Mar 17 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | how am I doing so far? | Mar 17 15:23 |
| jono | lol | Mar 17 15:23 |
| jono | awesome :) | Mar 17 15:23 |
| *jono hi-fives DaemonFC | Mar 17 15:23 | |
| DaemonFC | yay | Mar 17 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | Copyright 2010 jono's mom | Mar 17 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | actually, what makes that thing so horrible jono is not the idea behind it | Mar 17 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | but how badly it conflicts with alternative programs the user may choose | Mar 17 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | for example, the me applet signs into Empathy and knocks Pidgin off all networks | Mar 17 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't see "Oh, he has Pidgin open!" and adjust status appropriately | Mar 17 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | and while Pidgin can be started from the applet, it can't be minimized there, the program itself just closes | Mar 17 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | Until Empathy decides to implement all the features Pidgin has, indicator applet should consider that many users don't want Empathy and do have Pidgin | Mar 17 15:27 |
| jono | DaemonFC, sounds like a bug | Mar 17 15:27 |
| jono | reported it? | Mar 17 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | it should provide for that contingency | Mar 17 15:27 |
| jono | the knocking it offline thing | Mar 17 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Mar 17 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | it got marked duplicate immediately and is not getting love | Mar 17 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | so I just removed indicator-messages and have Pidgin in the notification area | Mar 17 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | at least it works this way | Mar 17 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | I tried removing indicator-applet first, but that nukes the volume icon | Mar 17 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | removing indicator-messages leaves the indicator volume icon and gets rid of that little envelope thing | Mar 17 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 17 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | so the system tray behaves much like it did in 8.10 | Mar 17 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | which is good, because that's how it worked best | Mar 17 15:30 |
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| DaemonFC | jono, Forgive me for sounding crazy maybe, but shouldn't a GUI in theory, be the least complicated it has to be to get the desired level of functionality implemented? | Mar 17 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | I fail to see how indicator made it into Ubuntu as-is, without that little gem being applied as a test | Mar 17 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | see, indicator is not enabling new functionality, it's duplicating it or splitting it up into three or four different places | Mar 17 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | forcing the user to play hide and seek in the name of saving a quarter inch of panel | Mar 17 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | and to pour salt in the wound, it doesn't work right with the user's preferred applications | Mar 17 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | and may cause them to die horribly | Mar 17 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | that's not trolling, it's what's going on | Mar 17 15:36 |
| jono | DaemonFC, it isnt enabling new functionality? | Mar 17 15:38 |
| jono | yes it is | Mar 17 15:38 |
| jono | such as: | Mar 17 15:38 |
| jono | * more accessible | Mar 17 15:38 |
| jono | * keyboard driven | Mar 17 15:38 |
| jono | * able to scrub menus | Mar 17 15:38 |
| jono | * able to specify different panel specific icons | Mar 17 15:38 |
| jono | * consistant API | Mar 17 15:38 |
| jono | I am not denying it still has bugs, but it is software - that happens | Mar 17 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | it has bugs, it is duplicative, it causes programs not Ubuntu default to malfunction | Mar 17 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | those are some pretty serious defects | Mar 17 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | do the benefits outweight these? | Mar 17 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | The impression I keep getting is "Go **** yourself, if it didn't come with Ubuntu we don't care, we don't want to hear it, go away" | Mar 17 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | "Indicator is perfect, why can't you see that?" | Mar 17 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | There's a good chance that the first thing the user installs dies horribly due to your modifications | Mar 17 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | you embarrass the people that wrote that application | Mar 17 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | you embarrass GNOME | Mar 17 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | you embarrass yourselves | Mar 17 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | especially former Windows users or maybe people stopping over from KDE where closing to the system tray is the norm and happens to usually work | Mar 17 15:44 |
| DaemonFC | but if you insist on making modifications, please don't leave them in alpha quality for 3 Ubuntu releases in a row | Mar 17 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | it reflects poorly on Ubuntu | Mar 17 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | (including an LTS) | Mar 17 15:46 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.businessweek.com/idg/2010-03-15/crossover-linux-9-run-windows-apps-without-windows.html | Mar 17 16:01 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: CrossOver Linux 9: Run Windows apps without Windows - BusinessWeek .::. Size~: 53.05 KB | Mar 17 16:01 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, SJVN | Mar 17 16:01 |
| schestowitz | Older article | Mar 17 16:01 |
| schestowitz | BusinessWeek is dying | Mar 17 16:01 |
| schestowitz | It now imports articles from Bloomberg and IDG | Mar 17 16:01 |
| schestowitz | NYT too (IDG) | Mar 17 16:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Boycott Novell has a new Hindi translation thanks to the work of @eduvid ! Added to the front page of the site: http://ur1.ca/q68w | Mar 17 16:07 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @eduvid thanks so much. I am grateful! | Mar 17 16:08 | |
| schestowitz | Heh. re hyperlink tax. http://identi.ca/notice/25060225 "@schestowitz whoever came up with that probably spends a good 5 minutes getting his favorite station on the "wireless set"" | Mar 17 16:09 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] @schestowitz welcome :) | Mar 17 16:14 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] I always thought Charles did the best he can in difficult circumstances. http://is.gd/aM3tK IE9's adoption that special Microsoft embrace. | Mar 17 16:17 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] I always thought Charles did the best he can in difficult circumstances. http://is.gd/aM3tK IE9's adoption that special Microsoft embrace. | Mar 17 16:18 | |
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| DaemonFC | jono, http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/5154/screenshotft.png | Mar 17 16:23 |
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| DaemonFC | That's Lucid | Mar 17 16:23 |
| jono | ...and? | Mar 17 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | sanity has been restored | Mar 17 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | theme that gives migraines not used even | Mar 17 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 17 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | at least it's possible to make it work well, though not advertised | Mar 17 16:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Wow, I am one of "the most powerful voices in Open Source" - http://is.gd/aM4hN - respect my obscure community and metal references! :) | Mar 17 16:26 | |
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| DaemonFC | jono, You wouldn't happen to know why Exaile crashes a lot and Apport refuses to make a bug report? | Mar 17 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | oh, this time it will | Mar 17 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | yay | Mar 17 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | 120 MB dump | Mar 17 16:29 |
| *DaemonFC uploads | Mar 17 16:29 | |
| jono | DaemonFC, we have been having some issues with the crash handler service | Mar 17 16:30 |
| jono | should be fixed soon | Mar 17 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | like when it bugs you 100 times over the same crash ? :) | Mar 17 16:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @schestowitz This is marvelous news to break out of the English pond into a lake for this region. Eduvid has his work cut out. | Mar 17 16:36 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] William Gibson's birthday is today! Happy birthday Mr Gibson! @greatdismal :) http://bit.ly/bXTkYO (via @xenijardin) | Mar 17 16:50 | |
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| DaemonFC | jono, Would you like half of my candy bar? :P | Mar 17 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | hehehe | Mar 17 17:11 |
| *schestowitz reckons jono is happy because he's on drugs or on 10.04 | Mar 17 17:11 | |
| jono | schestowitz I reckon DaemonFC and I would have a blast hanging out over some beers | Mar 17 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | hooray, beer! | Mar 17 17:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Applications Installation in #GNU #Linux No Longer Challenging (Since Years Ago) http://ur1.ca/q6hw | Mar 17 17:15 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] “The State of ODF Interoperability” Looking for Comments, China Gets Standards Right http://ur1.ca/q6pa http://ur1.ca/q6pb | Mar 17 18:00 | |
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| DaemonFC | HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! | Mar 17 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | "Playboy accidentally played out on children's TV" | Mar 17 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | "Although a menu of available children's programming was listed on the left side of the screen, previews showing nude women engaged in explicit conversations were shown where previews of children's shows normally would appear." | Mar 17 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | priceless | Mar 17 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2361485,00.asp | Mar 17 18:05 |
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| DaemonFC | "And of course, don't even think about versions for non-Windows operating systems. IE General Manager Dean Hachamovitch told us that Mac and Linux versions weren't currently in the company's plans." | Mar 17 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | uhhhm, duh | Mar 17 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | hey jono | Mar 17 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | Would you consider making MSIE the default in Ubuntu if they did? | Mar 17 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Mar 17 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | pretty please! | Mar 17 18:06 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 17 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | maybe even integrate it with indicator? | Mar 17 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 17 18:06 |
| MinceR | i'm pretty sure they would, but without input from jono | Mar 17 18:06 |
| MinceR | or maybe mac asay will ask steve "blow" jobs to port safari to ubuntu | Mar 17 18:06 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Microsoft tries to build iTunes/Android-like app store, epically fails http://ur1.ca/q6qr | Mar 17 18:07 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Happy Birthday William Gibson http://ur1.ca/q6qv | Mar 17 18:07 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, After all it is a simple two-clicks to revert to Firefox and there is a truckload of bribe money involved ;) | Mar 17 18:07 |
| MinceR | yeah | Mar 17 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The bad user experience of Yahell I get, money changed hands, right? | Mar 17 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody paid them to torture users with Indicator or putting window controls on the wrong side | Mar 17 18:09 |
| MinceR | and unknowing users will be screwed | Mar 17 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | where the hell did that come from? | Mar 17 18:09 |
| MinceR | that came from osx | Mar 17 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | OS X has an indicator crapplet? | Mar 17 18:09 |
| MinceR | they were copying the stupidest ideas from osx even before they bought asay | Mar 17 18:09 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] 21 Loco Directory Ubuntu Global Jam events! http://is.gd/aMbUv - folks, organize your own event! http://is.gd/aL34y #ubuntu | Mar 17 18:18 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Censorship Against Encyclopedia Dramatica, #CivilRights at Odds http://ur1.ca/q6ti http://ur1.ca/q6tj | Mar 17 18:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IntellectualMonopolies Craze Wants to Tax Hardware http://ur1.ca/q6tw | Mar 17 18:20 | |
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| schestowitz | [18:05] <phIRCe-BNc> Title: Microsoft: IE9 Won't Support Windows XP, Period - Reviews by PC Magazine .::. Size~: 79.41 KB | Mar 17 18:28 |
| schestowitz | yay | Mar 17 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Good for Chrome/FF/others | Mar 17 18:28 |
| schestowitz | [18:06] <MinceR> or maybe mac asay will ask steve "blow" jobs to port safari to ubuntu | Mar 17 18:29 |
| schestowitz | s/to port safari to ubuntu/!/ | Mar 17 18:30 |
| schestowitz | There. Fixed it for you. | Mar 17 18:30 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 17 18:30 |
| schestowitz | I'll make some BN posts........ | Mar 17 18:30 |
| schestowitz | > Re: what software platform did SBInet use ? | Mar 17 18:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 17 18:32 |
| schestowitz | > http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/29/1321243 | Mar 17 18:32 |
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| schestowitz | > | Mar 17 18:32 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124758593&ft=1&f=1019 | Mar 17 18:32 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] #Microsoft pressured portuguese Government to impeach GNU/Linux in dual boot on Classmates school distribution http://tr.im/Sg2Q portuguese | Mar 17 18:33 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] That's a statement made in an official inquiry at the portuguese Parliament. | Mar 17 18:33 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Few interesting Ubuntu Global Jam posts: Nick Ali: http://is.gd/aMdel David Planella: http://is.gd/aMdf9 #ubuntu | Mar 17 18:35 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.rsf.org/ennemis.html | Mar 17 18:41 |
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| MinceR | ^ article and list about the enemies of the internet | Mar 17 18:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Tomorrow at #osbc I am delivering my 'Unwrapping The Community Manager' talk at 11.40 - hope to see many of you there! | Mar 17 18:45 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Interviewing Simon Phipps (@webmink) on FLOSSWeekly at 1.30pm PST - send me your questions for him, people of the tubes. | Mar 17 18:46 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Listening to Warbringer again. They really smack of Malevolent Creation a lot. Rocking. :-) | Mar 17 18:48 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @merlyn: @jonobacon it's not "1:30pm PST" for FLOSS - it's "1:30pm PT", which happens to be PDT right now | Mar 17 19:04 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Patents (on Life) Roundup: Human Tissue and Crops Monopolised http://ur1.ca/q76u #ip #uspto #epo #ukipo | Mar 17 19:36 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | \oh christ | Mar 17 19:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | this is awesome | Mar 17 19:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | come on identica bot, hurry up! | Mar 17 19:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | actually screw it | Mar 17 19:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://act.credoaction.com/bracket/ | Mar 17 19:37 |
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| Diablo-D3 | BAM | Mar 17 19:37 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] The Bracket Of Evil, featuring contestants such as Dick Cheney, #GlennBeck, Blackwater, and Rahm Emanuel http://ur1.ca/q76j #awesome | Mar 17 19:37 | |
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| rnb | <- heading over to osbc | Mar 17 19:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Roast Parsnips win. That is all. | Mar 17 19:47 | |
| Diablo-D3 | osbc? | Mar 17 19:48 |
| sebsebseb | Hi | Mar 17 19:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Father-in-law taught the kids the magic phrase to release them from capture (in games) is Hamilton Academicals.Sounds ace from a 3 year old. | Mar 17 19:52 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell Wants to Bring #Microsoft , #Moonlight , and #Mono to #Linux Phones ( #Android ) http://ur1.ca/q79l | Mar 17 19:53 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] There are not enough amatuers who play video game music http://ur1.ca/q7af #awesome | Mar 17 19:57 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] 32 songs in 8 minutes, #epic medly http://ur1.ca/36uz | Mar 17 20:07 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/16/google_chrome_unique_identifier_change/ | Mar 17 20:07 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2010/03/ie_9_update.html | Mar 17 20:10 |
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| DaemonFC | "I told everyone that IE9 was gonna rock." | Mar 17 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | -Asa Dotzler | Mar 17 20:10 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] About to interview Simon Phipps (@webmink) now on FLOSSWeekly - watch live at http://live.twit.tv | Mar 17 20:38 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Illegal-file sharing could 'cost billions' by 2015 - The BBC seem to enjoy publishing propaganda like this http://tinyurl.com/yz4kpbs | Mar 17 20:58 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | I find this amusing | Mar 17 21:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | I have ntfs-3g installed on my powerbook. | Mar 17 21:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | you know, the one that runs linux | Mar 17 21:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | so I can plug in a windows drive... and.... read it. | Mar 17 21:03 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: did you hear about Rahm's brother? | Mar 17 21:03 |
| schestowitz | Another creep | Mar 17 21:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: no, what? | Mar 17 21:03 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/11/dave-eggers-zeitoun-hurricane-katrina | Mar 17 21:04 |
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| schestowitz | http://keionline.org/node/804 | Mar 17 21:04 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Ari Emanuel: Did he mention lobbying the President or the Vice President? | Knowledge Ecology International .::. Size~: 15.39 KB | Mar 17 21:04 |
| schestowitz | "According to Josh Gerstein of Politico, Ari Emanuel claims he was misquoted, and was in fact referring to the “vice President.” KEI’s first take: Ari Emanuel’s quote was widely discussed on twitter and blogs, and Ari was embarrassed at his indiscretion, which suggests Rahm Emanuel’s brother is lobbying the president directly. " | Mar 17 21:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | so | Mar 17 21:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | rahm emanuel's brother is... | Mar 17 21:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | lobbying... for | Mar 17 21:05 |
| schestowitz | Puppies | Mar 17 21:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | his brother, rahm, 's employer. | Mar 17 21:05 |
| schestowitz | Of course | Mar 17 21:05 |
| *Diablo-D3 facepalms | Mar 17 21:06 | |
| Diablo-D3 | dear bloggosphere: THERE ARE BIGGER FISH TO FRY | Mar 17 21:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] BONNGGGGG!! It's Cognac'o'clock! | Mar 17 21:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More Evidence of Potential #Microsoft Involvement in #Apple - #HTC Lawsuit Against #Linux / #Android http://ur1.ca/q7mk | Mar 17 21:28 | |
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| schestowitz | Why is popey screaming BONG? | Mar 17 21:36 |
| schestowitz | Is he using 10.04 _already_? | Mar 17 21:36 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #InternetExplorer 9 Seems Less Secure Than Predecessors; #Microsoft Plays the #Vaporware Games Again http://ur1.ca/q7od | Mar 17 21:45 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Internet Explorer 9 Seems Less Secure Than Predecessors; Microsoft Plays the Vapourware Game Against Rival Web Browsers | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 93.86 KB | Mar 17 21:45 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Entryism Roundup: #COPsync , Level 3, and #Yahoo #silverlight #dumping #xbox http://ur1.ca/q7q7 | Mar 17 21:58 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Itching to release the next episode of @uupc. Listeners be warned.. it's a biggie! :) | Mar 17 22:19 | |
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| schestowitz | Heh. http://identi.ca/notice/25107015 "@webmink I'd love to hear it, but I quit listening to FLOSS Weekly when @jonobacon did the attack dog thing on @schestowitz." | Mar 17 22:40 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Walt Hucks (lnxwalt) 's status on Wednesday, 17-Mar-10 21:47:07 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.46 KB | Mar 17 22:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft — Like Gates Foundation — Still Uses Own ‘Studies’ for #PR and #Lobbying Purposes http://ur1.ca/q7xc | Mar 17 22:42 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft Like Gates Foundation Still Uses Own Studies for PR and Lobbying Purposes | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 96.14 KB | Mar 17 22:42 |
| schestowitz | http://www.electronicsweekly.com/Articles/2010/03/01/48099/arm-processors-run-native-linux-and-android-applications.htm | Mar 17 22:43 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: ARM processors run native Linux and Android applications - 01/03/2010 - Electronics Weekly .::. Size~: 63.54 KB | Mar 17 22:43 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Even IDG NZ is now spreading the same anti-Linux FUD piece from Microsoft's TE Gartnenberg. | Mar 17 22:49 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] IDG News Service has _no_ shame (nor disclosures); it's a shame it has so much control in tech. | Mar 17 22:51 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Calls/interviews done, now time for a little Exodus! :-) | Mar 17 22:51 | |
| fedbn | Hear about the recent FOSS deletions at Wikipedia? | Mar 17 22:54 |
| fedbn | Looks like Awesome, Evilwm, QVWM are gone, they're trying to get rid of dwm as well | Mar 17 22:54 |
| fedbn | Interestingly there's quite a bit of commonality between those voting for deletion | Mar 17 22:56 |
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| fedbn | Might be reading into it too much, but one of the guys who mostly voted delete on them was also *very* quick to withdraw his nomination of a .NET framework after a single source showed up | Mar 17 22:57 |
| fedbn | Scary thing is all this stuff has happened since mid-Feb | Mar 17 22:57 |
| fedbn | Wonder how many dozens of FOSS articles have been deleted before that | Mar 17 22:58 |
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| fedbn | Guy who did several of the WM deletions also got BMPx deleted, as well as TripleA | Mar 17 23:02 |
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| fedbn | Looks like he's got a habit of picking on FOSS | Mar 17 23:02 |
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| _goblin | good evening. | Mar 17 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | Hey, what's new? | Mar 17 23:14 |
| schestowitz | fedbn: any reasons? | Mar 17 23:14 |
| _goblin | not much... | Mar 17 23:14 |
| schestowitz | They usually make stubs | Mar 17 23:14 |
| _goblin | just got in from work. | Mar 17 23:14 |
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| schestowitz | And the process has some deletion proposal first, so it can be overruled | Mar 17 23:15 |
| schestowitz | Today I saw Wikipedia on Pardus | Mar 17 23:15 |
| schestowitz | It seemed too promotional | Mar 17 23:15 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: here's one to write about: http://www.informationweek.com/news/global-cio/interviews/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=223800165 http://www.pcworld.com/article/191511/ibm_says_rivals_behind_antiibm_report_in_india.html | Mar 17 23:16 |
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| _goblin | schestowitz: I'll give it a look and hopefully have some time in the next few days....... | Mar 17 23:17 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: although sunday is a no no.....its Destination X. | Mar 17 23:18 |
| fedbn | schestowitz: Just seems to be two or so guys who've been going after FOSS articles, voting for each other's proposed deletions | Mar 17 23:18 |
| fedbn | The fact that they're almost exclusively going after FOSS is what's bugging me | Mar 17 23:19 |
| schestowitz | Blankenhorn myths: | Mar 17 23:19 |
| schestowitz | "The reason desktop Linux isn’t of interest to bad guys is because there aren’t enough targets." | Mar 17 23:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.smartplanet.com/technology/blog/thinking-tech/computing-is-moving-into-the-clouds-with-us-or-without-us/3448/ | Mar 17 23:19 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Computing is moving into the clouds with U.S. or without U.S. - SmartPlanet .::. Size~: 51.01 KB | Mar 17 23:19 |
| schestowitz | He sounds like a standard ZDNet stooge most of the time | Mar 17 23:19 |
| schestowitz | He heard it many times, so assumes it's true | Mar 17 23:19 |
| schestowitz | fedbn: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/07/01/microsoft-manipulation-odf-wikipedia/ | Mar 17 23:20 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/06/01/microsoft-attacks-odf-alliance/ | Mar 17 23:21 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Rob Weir Complains About Microsofts Manipulation of Wikipedia | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 100.77 KB | Mar 17 23:21 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/06/01/standards-consortia-cronyism-odf/ | Mar 17 23:21 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/05/waggener-edstrom-wikipedia/ | Mar 17 23:21 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2007/01/22/ooxml-shill/ | Mar 17 23:21 |
| schestowitz | So basically, it's just rather familiar | Mar 17 23:21 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft pays for wikipedia edits, so it's not paranoid, but I don't know about the FOSS edits you speak of | Mar 17 23:22 |
| schestowitz | Could be anyone who hates FOSS, but what motives? | Mar 17 23:22 |
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| fedbn | May well just be easy targets | Mar 17 23:22 |
| fedbn | Unlike, say, commercial games, movies, music, there aren't professional magazines that review FOSS | Mar 17 23:23 |
| fedbn | And Wikipedia has policies that basically disallow the use of blogs/forums/etc. as sources | Mar 17 23:23 |
| schestowitz | http://www.techworld.com.au/article/339493/linux_cloud_future_ibm_canada | Mar 17 23:25 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Linux is the cloud's future: IBM Canada - cloud, IBM, Linux - Techworld .::. Size~: 47.79 KB | Mar 17 23:25 |
| fedbn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability/RFC:Notability_of_free_open_source_software is interesting, specifically the history | Mar 17 23:25 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Wikipedia:Notability/RFC:Notability of free open source software - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 36.73 KB | Mar 17 23:26 |
| fedbn | Pohta ce-am pohtit and Psychonaut are the two deleting FOSS articles | Mar 17 23:26 |
| fedbn | And there they are derailing a FOSS-related proposal | Mar 17 23:26 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/29/jimmi-hugh-wikipedia-censorship-on-ms/ | Mar 17 23:26 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft and Jimmi Hugh: Wikipedia Censorship or Just Vandalism? (Corrected) | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 252.04 KB | Mar 17 23:26 |
| schestowitz | I'm not going to explore them anymore | Mar 17 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Other people complained | Mar 17 23:27 |
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| schestowitz | And later they denied | Mar 17 23:27 |
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| schestowitz | those wms are notable | Mar 17 23:27 |
| schestowitz | Definitely for wikipedia | Mar 17 23:27 |
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| schestowitz | Obscure would be some college project | Mar 17 23:28 |
| fedbn | Funny thing is that college projects are more notable than most WMs | Mar 17 23:28 |
| fedbn | They hate blogs and forums but they love scholarly papers | Mar 17 23:28 |
| schestowitz | These dudes are endorsing swpats ........ :-|| http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Fluendo-announce-Media-Center-for-Linux-955876.html | Mar 17 23:28 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Fluendo announce Media Center for Linux - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 33.08 KB | Mar 17 23:28 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pclinuxos | Mar 17 23:29 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: PCLinuxOS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 44.64 KB | Mar 17 23:29 |
| schestowitz | "This article may be confusing or unclear to readers. Please help clarify the article..." | Mar 17 23:29 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Larabel | Mar 17 23:30 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Michael Larabel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 19.58 KB | Mar 17 23:30 |
| schestowitz | He chalked himself in | Mar 17 23:30 |
| schestowitz | They tried to delete his page | Mar 17 23:30 |
| schestowitz | I think I chimed in to defend | Mar 17 23:30 |
| fedbn | They try to delete * | Mar 17 23:30 |
| fedbn | As if the project will crumble if they have a few more kilobytes on the servers | Mar 17 23:31 |
| schestowitz | His personal site is dead... http://www.michaellarabel.com/michael.php | Mar 17 23:31 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Michael Larabel | michaellarabel.com .::. Size~: 6.97 KB | Mar 17 23:31 |
| schestowitz | But Phoronix is great | Mar 17 23:31 |
| fedbn | I think the two deletionists are just going through a list | Mar 17 23:31 |
| fedbn | They're mostly doing WMs right now | Mar 17 23:31 |
| fedbn | With the sources on PCLinuxOS right now, they could try to delete it | Mar 17 23:32 |
| fedbn | Distrowatch is instantly invalidated because it's self-published, same goes for sourceforge, their own site, etc. | Mar 17 23:32 |
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| fedbn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Dwm is just a mess | Mar 17 23:35 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Talk:Dwm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 33.83 KB | Mar 17 23:35 |
| fedbn | Tried to delete it, dwm community came out in support so they banned a bunch of them, restarted debate | Mar 17 23:36 |
| schestowitz | What utter bolox | Mar 17 23:36 |
| schestowitz | What utter bollox | Mar 17 23:36 |
| fedbn | Didn't end as a delete so the deletionists appealed it | Mar 17 23:36 |
| schestowitz | As if some stupid "journalist" valides it | Mar 17 23:36 |
| schestowitz | They take bribes and stuff | Mar 17 23:36 |
| fedbn | Exactly | Mar 17 23:36 |
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| schestowitz | Tell dwm to send laptops with dwm, like Microsoff does | Mar 17 23:37 |
| schestowitz | They'll get rave reviews if they don't ask for the laptop back | Mar 17 23:37 |
| fedbn | It's pretty funny how most of Wikipedia's sourcing policies excel at excluding sources that cover FOSS | Mar 17 23:38 |
| schestowitz | Wikipedia even has an article about PJ | Mar 17 23:38 |
| fedbn | while MediaWiki is FOSS itself | Mar 17 23:38 |
| schestowitz | Even though she lives secretly | Mar 17 23:38 |
| *WireWulf has no clue | Mar 17 23:39 | |
| WireWulf | really should be watching i guess :P | Mar 17 23:39 |
| schestowitz | It's wrong on many levels, but WP has to put a bar somewhere | Mar 17 23:40 |
| fedbn | Professional coverage is a pretty shitty metric | Mar 17 23:41 |
| schestowitz | http://www.core77.com/blog/business/apple_snaps_up_prominent_wearable_computing_expert_16176.asp "While he was a grad student pursuing his PhD at MIT's Media Lab, Richard DeVaul developed "memory glasses," a spectacle-mounted display wired to a small wearable computer running Linux. " | Mar 17 23:41 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Apple snaps up prominent wearable computing expert - Core77 .::. Size~: 23.1 KB | Mar 17 23:41 |
| fedbn | As a publisher you're going to cover things that make you money | Mar 17 23:41 |
| fedbn | Like reviewing the latest game | Mar 17 23:41 |
| fedbn | Not exactly much buzz for a niche WM | Mar 17 23:41 |
| schestowitz | http://devaul.net/ | Mar 17 23:42 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Richard W. DeVaul Ph.D. .::. Size~: 14.12 KB | Mar 17 23:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @ansol: New blog post: Regionais italianas: mais de 100 candidatos apoiam oficialmente o software livre http://ur1.ca/q85e | Mar 17 23:45 | |
| MinceR | they only have to put a bar somewhere if they're a printed encyclopedia with a page limit | Mar 17 23:45 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Software Livre no SAPO » Blog Archive » Regionais italianas: mais de 100 candidatos apoiam oficialmente o software livre .::. Size~: 41.53 KB | Mar 17 23:45 |
| MinceR | which they are not | Mar 17 23:45 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.co.uk/reviews/desktop-os/2009/05/21/moblin-v20-beta-screenshots-39654386/ | Mar 17 23:45 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Moblin v2.0 beta: screenshots | Desktop OS | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 37.77 KB | Mar 17 23:45 |
| schestowitz | This just got bumped up in the news even though it's old | Mar 17 23:46 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, I reckon so......... | Mar 17 23:46 |
| fedbn | WP deletionists basically do what they do because they have this silly notion that adding content makes it harder to find existing content | Mar 17 23:46 |
| fedbn | And because they think that less-notable stuff makes the project look bad | Mar 17 23:47 |
| schestowitz | I guess it gets hard to moderate and keep quality high though if every random person puts a pet project or autobio there | Mar 17 23:47 |
| fedbn | I'd say number of editors is proportional to amount of topics | Mar 17 23:47 |
| MinceR | they don't have to do it with a limited staff anyway | Mar 17 23:47 |
| fedbn | Wikipedia's growth has slowed over the last few years because of their extreme bureaucracy | Mar 17 23:47 |
| schestowitz | Delepedia | Mar 17 23:48 |
| schestowitz | Wikiphelia | Mar 17 23:48 |
| schestowitz | Wikipobia (or new articles) | Mar 17 23:48 |
| schestowitz | *ph | Mar 17 23:48 |
| MinceR | there's a Deletionpedia though :> | Mar 17 23:49 |
| fedbn | The fact that such a thing even needs to exist is pretty sad | Mar 17 23:50 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 17 23:50 |
| fedbn | I think there's merit to the theory that the higher-ups (as in, those actually salaried by the Wikimedia Foundation) silently condome deletionism | Mar 17 23:53 |
| fedbn | because it forces people to use Wikia, their for-profit venture | Mar 17 23:53 |
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