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| schestowitz | What a nice video.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWjtRFNSl2s | Mar 25 00:32 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @suka: Priceless ;-) @jonobacon rocks the #gnome icon theme (extras)! Nice job @hbons http://is.gd/aXkVP :::: wow! :-) | Mar 25 00:32 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] I feel like we really need some CouchDB Python Snippets - anyone want to write any? See http://is.gd/aVIwO for how #couchdb #python #ubuntu | Mar 25 00:45 | |
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| DaemonFC | I just got done burying my dog :( | Mar 25 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | she went into a seizure and stopped breathing a few hours ago | Mar 25 00:47 |
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| WireWulf | :'( poor puppy | Mar 25 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | I buried her out in the country, in my grandmother's back yard | Mar 25 00:52 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] "Human Achievement Hour" the brainchild of dangerously ignorant, stupid, uncivilised nutjobs. http://bit.ly/adJUH1 @earthhour #australia | Mar 25 00:52 | |
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| DaemonFC | I'm going to miss Darla, I had her for 16 years, since she was a puppy and I was 10 years old | Mar 25 00:53 |
| WireWulf | DaemonFC: i am going to miss lucy when she passes | Mar 25 00:53 |
| WireWulf | she is only 15 tho :P | Mar 25 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | My Jabba cat is in my lap right now, he knows something bad happened | Mar 25 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | he always does | Mar 25 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | I was crying on him earlier and he was licking the tears off my face :P | Mar 25 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | Darla used to hate cats, chasing them all over, but during the last few years she had developed arthritis, cataracts, and had gone deaf | Mar 25 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | so she got along with Jabba | Mar 25 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | he'd walk bye and she'd lift her head up like "Huh? What?" and go back to sleep | Mar 25 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | then they started playing games, like Darla would walk into a room and close the door tp keep Jabba out | Mar 25 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | and Jabba learned to hop up, turn the door knob, and push the door open | Mar 25 00:58 |
| schestowitz | Sorry to hear it | Mar 25 01:01 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know you had more pets than Jabba | Mar 25 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | yes, Jabba and Darla | Mar 25 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | the dog was elderly and slept most of the time | Mar 25 01:01 |
| schestowitz | My dog Jenny died at ~15 | Mar 25 01:01 |
| schestowitz | Had her since I was 10 | Mar 25 01:02 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2007/03/04/jenny-rest-in-peace/ http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2006/03/04/jenny-the-dog/ | Mar 25 01:03 |
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| DaemonFC | a Retriever? | Mar 25 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | mine was half Australian Shepherd and half Cocker Spaniel | Mar 25 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | very intelligent, mild mannered, problems with her ears her whole life | Mar 25 01:05 |
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| DaemonFC | I like animals | Mar 25 01:07 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] If the population density of the US was equal to that of Brooklyn, the entire US population would fit in New Hampshire http://ur1.ca/rlei | Mar 25 01:07 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Consumerist is voting on worst company in the US, http://ur1.ca/rlfc | Mar 25 01:07 | |
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| DaemonFC | there's a no-kill cat shelter outside of town, I set up a recurring donation to | Mar 25 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | I know a lot of people abuse cats or abandon them and they have a lot of cats out there | Mar 25 01:08 |
| schestowitz | Animals are almost identical to us | Mar 25 01:08 |
| schestowitz | Genetically | Mar 25 01:09 |
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| schestowitz | Through breeding we made them how we like them | Mar 25 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | That's what I'd like to see, tough new laws and penalties for animal abuse | Mar 25 01:09 |
| schestowitz | Domesticated animals are human's game with nature | Mar 25 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | 5 years is hardly a sentence for some of the things people have done to get it | Mar 25 01:10 |
| schestowitz | We treat it like our genetic toy | Mar 25 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: cats are self-domesticated | Mar 25 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | dogs might even be too | Mar 25 01:11 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Ridley Scott discusses Harrison Ford as Deckard in Blade Runner http://ur1.ca/rlfr | Mar 25 01:12 | |
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| WireWulf | lucy is ausy-chowchow mix | Mar 25 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | dogs would have as much to gain for helping humans as the humans who keep the dogs | Mar 25 01:13 |
| WireWulf | melissa is a flat coat Retriever and a big baby | Mar 25 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | throughout history I mean | Mar 25 01:14 |
| WireWulf | dogs are very impressive as they have jobs they do to the best of there ablities | Mar 25 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | right | Mar 25 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | hunting dogs, police dogs, dogs helping disabled people | Mar 25 01:15 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] ING Direct Bank is a bunch of dicks, don't do business with them http://ur1.ca/rlgk | Mar 25 01:17 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Child Receives Trachea Organ Transplant Created With Own Stem Cells http://ur1.ca/rlh4 !science | Mar 25 01:17 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Law enforcement uses nasty MITM attack to promote terrorism on the Internet http://ur1.ca/rlh9 | Mar 25 01:22 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Nanowire Polymer Film Turns Any Surface into a Multitouch Interface with videos http://ur1.ca/rlhk !science | Mar 25 01:22 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Watching a documentary on making bread and getting up the energy to go to bed | Mar 25 01:24 | |
| schestowitz | gn | Mar 25 01:29 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Actor who voiced Dr Breen in Half Life 2 is dead http://ur1.ca/rlml | Mar 25 01:57 | |
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| xelios | hi everyone | Mar 25 03:37 |
| xelios | a piece of news from Russia | Mar 25 03:37 |
| xelios | http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&u=http://lenta.ru/news2/2010/03/24/microsoft/index.htm&sl=auto&tl=en | Mar 25 03:37 |
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| xelios | Microsoft sends vista 7 to all russian schools for free | Mar 25 03:38 |
| sebsebseb | http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2010031900235NWAP | Mar 25 03:39 |
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| xelios | license is valid until the end of 2010, when the agreement between russian ministry of education and microsoft expires. | Mar 25 03:39 |
| xelios | bye, guys. consider this a victory or a defeat, i don't know | Mar 25 03:40 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Kerala schools to have free digital libraries http://post.ly/VI3i | Mar 25 03:53 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Rajasthan gets its first village with Laptop for every child today #olpc #india http://post.ly/VI79 | Mar 25 04:00 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Catalyst 10.3 doesn't have Xserver 1.7 support. #WTF #AMD !Linux | Mar 25 04:57 | |
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| DaemonFC | just biked 5 miles | Mar 25 05:11 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Do you get the History Channel? | Mar 25 05:15 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Good morning everybody. Today will be a nice day. Julian wil visit me and unfortunately my quarrel with hAl has totally got out of hand. | Mar 25 05:29 | |
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| scientes | any good to-do list software for linux? | Mar 25 06:11 |
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| enthymeme | scientes: I see a few in Arch's repos. Have you tried any? | Mar 25 06:49 |
| enthymeme | ach, your question was a while ago O.o | Mar 25 06:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] [Commercial] Ben Nanonote now available in India http://post.ly/VJuS | Mar 25 06:54 | |
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| enthymeme | umm, I see qtodo, doomi, ad yagtd for instance, which seem to be standalone programs. There's also some organizer programs, and I'm sure there's one for emacs if you're into that. | Mar 25 06:58 |
| enthymeme | gah, and now I have to go. | Mar 25 06:58 |
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| tessier | "They [Microsoft] need to get on the right side of human rights rather than enabling tyranny, which they're doing right now," Smith said. | Mar 25 07:01 |
| tessier | http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/24/technology/china_google_hearing/index.htm | Mar 25 07:01 |
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| tessier | I love to see Microsoft and tyranny in the same sentence | Mar 25 07:01 |
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| scientes | enthy have you used any | Mar 25 07:29 |
| scientes | damn | Mar 25 07:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Ik een paar uurtjes rusten. Het is mooi geweest voor vandaag. Straks komt Julian en dan moet ik toch een beetje fit zijn ;-) | Mar 25 07:34 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Traffic lights on the M3 junction 4 north are green for 2 seconds ! #quickchange | Mar 25 08:00 | |
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| oiaohm | Anyone else had the fun bug where all .doc files end up being default open wordpad | Mar 25 08:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Pulls an EDGI in #Russia to Block #GNU #Linux in #Schools http://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/25/dumping-windows-on-russia/ | Mar 25 08:39 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Communist #China receives blind support from #Microsoft and the US congress denounces Microsoft for it http://ur1.ca/rn9f | Mar 25 08:43 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] No matter how good your intentions are, you may not be able to... More for Aquarius http://twittascope.com/?sign=11 | Mar 25 08:59 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] RideBack here we come http://ur1.ca/rnbr !science !miotd | Mar 25 09:07 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @rayvelline #Facebook 'linked to rise in syphilis' http://bit.ly/cFCOLA /plausible (& I thought Facebook was only a metaphorical plague!) | Mar 25 09:08 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/26/health/policy/26health.html | Mar 25 09:08 |
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| DaemonFC | Sons of bitches | Mar 25 09:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Software Development Times Magazine (SD Times) Sometimes Composed by Patent Lawyers http://ur1.ca/rncl #swpat | Mar 25 09:10 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | WHAT?! | Mar 25 09:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | IS THIS SHIT STILL GOING ON? | Mar 25 09:11 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Mar 25 09:11 |
| DaemonFC | The Republicans are stalling it | Mar 25 09:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im going to write a letter to obama | Mar 25 09:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | "please have your democrats in congress pass a bill outlawing the republican party forever" | Mar 25 09:11 |
| DaemonFC | You can't fix stupid | Mar 25 09:13 |
| cubezzz | better health care for people seems like a good idea to me | Mar 25 09:13 |
| DaemonFC | the Republicans aren't the problem | Mar 25 09:13 |
| DaemonFC | the problem is the voters who vote for them | Mar 25 09:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | the american people are the problem | Mar 25 09:13 |
| DaemonFC | we should have DHS screw up and lose their paperwork | Mar 25 09:14 |
| DaemonFC | deport them all to Mexico | Mar 25 09:14 |
| DaemonFC | "We 'lost your identification, can you PROVE you're not Mexican? Birth certificate? Could have gotten that from Kenya, right?" | Mar 25 09:15 |
| DaemonFC | "Right this way sir..." | Mar 25 09:15 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Can we just make being a #Republican illegal already? http://ur1.ca/rndn | Mar 25 09:17 | |
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| DaemonFC | Diablo-D3: Better yet.... | Mar 25 09:25 |
| DaemonFC | Deport them to Iraq | Mar 25 09:25 |
| DaemonFC | reunite them with their tax money :) | Mar 25 09:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | hah | Mar 25 09:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | wait | Mar 25 09:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | OUR tax money damnit! | Mar 25 09:26 |
| DaemonFC | best money I ever spent if we send them there | Mar 25 09:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes | Mar 25 09:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | I agree | Mar 25 09:27 |
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| oiaohm | Most people don't think of this. Really what biometrics exist on you birth certificate to prove it was you. | Mar 25 10:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Many news reports confirm that #Novell 's intention was to say that it will be sold given the right offer http://ur1.ca/rnm9 | Mar 25 10:06 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Went to see mum for #mumbuntu session yesterday. She's moved on from playing solitaire to removing redeye and cropping photos! | Mar 25 10:24 | |
| schestowitz | bbl | Mar 25 10:31 |
| MinceR | j0 | Mar 25 11:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] High fructose corn syrup #HFCS increases #obesity in rats at same calorie intake http://bit.ly/bMkS79 #health | Mar 25 11:20 | |
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| scientes | obvious | Mar 25 13:08 |
| cubezzz | still looking for a not dead Sparc | Mar 25 13:10 |
| cubezzz | got to learn a bit about the different configurations | Mar 25 13:10 |
| MinceR | http://limerickdb.com/?382 | Mar 25 13:10 |
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| cubezzz | hmmm, there's sparc laptops too | Mar 25 13:11 |
| MinceR | only old ones though, aren't they? | Mar 25 13:12 |
| cubezzz | umm, not sure | Mar 25 13:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] back in engerlund. re-jetlagging back to GMT. so. what's been happening? | Mar 25 13:14 | |
| cubezzz | I sure don't see any new ones | Mar 25 13:15 |
| cubezzz | http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Tadpole-SPARCBook-for-parts-with-OS-cd-manuals_W0QQitemZ320506420685QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4a9fabddcd | Mar 25 13:16 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Vintage Tadpole SPARCBook for parts with OS cd manuals - eBay (item 320506420685 end time Apr-21-10 17:02:26 PDT) .::. Size~: 51.98 KB | Mar 25 13:16 |
| cubezzz | there's 650 mhz sparcbooks | Mar 25 13:17 |
| cubezzz | probably costs a lot though | Mar 25 13:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're kind of rareish | Mar 25 13:19 |
| cubezzz | hrmm | Mar 25 13:21 |
| zoobab | http://www.lemondeinformatique.fr/actualites/lire-microsoft-ne-fait-pas-l-unanimite-sur-le-salon-linux-30197.html | Mar 25 13:24 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft ne fait toujours pas l'unanimité sur le salon Linux - Actualités Open source - Le Monde Informatique .::. Size~: 64.93 KB | Mar 25 13:24 |
| zoobab | patent stuff | Mar 25 13:24 |
| zoobab | stop les brevets! | Mar 25 13:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Free Software developers invades the Microsoft booth at Solution Linux, asking to stop software patents: http://i5.be/aES | Mar 25 13:26 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Wikimedia blog: Trending topics! http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2010/03/25/trending-topics/ | Mar 25 13:32 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: David Gerard » Blog Archive » Trending topics! .::. Size~: 10.31 KB | Mar 25 13:32 |
| oiaohm | http://stop.zona-m.net/node/130 Interesting schestowitz | Mar 25 13:35 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Cash for software clunkers? No, thanks, unless it promotes Free Software | Stop! .::. Size~: 14.34 KB | Mar 25 13:35 |
| cubezzz | cash for software clunkers? | Mar 25 13:36 |
| MinceR | http://limerickdb.com/?342 | Mar 25 13:37 |
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| cubezzz | Linux doesn't rhyme with clinics, the way I pronounce it :) | Mar 25 13:39 |
| oiaohm | http://www.bild.de/BILD/digital/spiele/2010/news/03/20/c64/-commodore-usa-plant-neuauflage-des-kult-heimcomputers.html | Mar 25 13:40 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: C64: Commodore USA plant Neuauflage des Heimcomputers - Digital - Bild.de .::. Size~: 114.89 KB | Mar 25 13:40 |
| MinceR | http://www.tadpolecomputer.com/Products.asp | Mar 25 13:41 |
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| cubezzz | yeah I saw that, but no prices are listed | Mar 25 13:41 |
| cubezzz | there's a used tadpole on ebay with a bad power supply | Mar 25 13:42 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, that device doesn't seem to have much in common with the original c64 | Mar 25 13:56 |
| cubezzz | beyond the fact that both were keyboard/computers | Mar 25 13:56 |
| oiaohm | Interesting question is if it will contain a c64 sound chip. cubezzz | Mar 25 13:58 |
| oiaohm | It was present in the old comadora i386 pc's. | Mar 25 13:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Taking out cancer cleanly with nanoparticles http://is.gd/aYAGG holy crap, living in the future is WAY cool | Mar 25 13:59 | |
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| MinceR | i doubt it will | Mar 25 13:59 |
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| cubezzz | there's a "Commodore" netbook that runs Linux evidently | Mar 25 14:01 |
| cubezzz | M-400 runs on Linux using Intel's Xscale 366 Mhz CPU, 128MB memory with IGB SSD, and comes equipped with WiFi, standard 80 Key-Keyboard and touchpad. | Mar 25 14:02 |
| cubezzz | I'm surprised no one made a c64-on-a-card | Mar 25 14:03 |
| cubezzz | just stick in the card and you have 100% compatible c64 mode | Mar 25 14:04 |
| MinceR | i'm surprised they didn't make an amiga-on-a-card | Mar 25 14:06 |
| MinceR | or even amiga-on-a-usb-dongle | Mar 25 14:06 |
| cubezzz | Sun had a windows-computer-on-a-card | Mar 25 14:10 |
| MinceR | i think i've seen PPC computers-on-a-card | Mar 25 14:11 |
| oiaohm | http://c64music.blogspot.com/2007/03/rare-isa-card-with-sid-chip-from-1989.html | Mar 25 14:14 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: C64Music!: Rare ISA card with SID chip from 1989 ! .::. Size~: 23.34 KB | Mar 25 14:14 |
| oiaohm | The most hard thing to emulation on a pc about a c64 is the sound chip. | Mar 25 14:14 |
| cubezzz | ah, I have ISA slots in this box | Mar 25 14:14 |
| oiaohm | But finding the card. | Mar 25 14:15 |
| oiaohm | Its extreamally rare. | Mar 25 14:15 |
| oiaohm | http://www.baltissen.org/newhtm/pccard.htm Now one of the most odd alterations have seen done to a c64 | Mar 25 14:17 |
| cubezzz | Adlib era competitor perhaps? | Mar 25 14:18 |
| cubezzz | ha, there's a slashdot article about it too | Mar 25 14:18 |
| oiaohm | cubezzz: forgot to say you can still get USB form of that card from a company called hardsid http://www.hardsid.com | Mar 25 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/26017783 "@schestowitz i was just noticing where you post from and thinking i've overestimated the sometimes harsher libel laws in the uk" | Mar 25 14:41 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: anything interesting in the Hercules filings? | Mar 25 14:47 |
| schestowitz | They joined Microsoft's lobby | Mar 25 14:47 |
| schestowitz | > "Microsoft has shot the .NET ecosystem in the foot because of the | Mar 25 14:47 |
| schestowitz | > constant threat of patent infringement that they have cast on the | Mar 25 14:47 |
| schestowitz | > ecosystem," he said. "Unlike the Java world that is blossoming with | Mar 25 14:47 |
| schestowitz | > dozens of vibrant Java Virtual Machine implementations, the .NET world | Mar 25 14:47 |
| schestowitz | > has suffered by this meme spread by [Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer] that | Mar 25 14:47 |
| schestowitz | > they would come after people that do not license patents from them.", | Mar 25 14:47 |
| schestowitz | > Miguel de Icaza | Mar 25 14:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 25 14:48 |
| schestowitz | > "The disappearance of this article was first spotted by Jason, who | Mar 25 14:48 |
| schestowitz | > runs the the-source.com website" | Mar 25 14:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 25 14:48 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/37880-microsoft-has-shot-net-ecosystem-in-foot-de-icaza | Mar 25 14:48 |
| schestowitz | brb | Mar 25 14:49 |
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| *Topic for #boycottnovell is: Communication about anything, including Microsoft, Novell, and Free software [publicly logged] | Mar 25 14:57 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz at Sun Nov 29 20:53:52 2009 | Mar 25 14:57 | |
| -ChanServ-[#boycottnovell] Welcome to the #boycottnovell channel | Mar 25 14:57 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Wifey asked me to buy some music for her.Bought on my laptop over 3G at work from Ubuntu One Music Store.Tracks magically appear at home :) | Mar 25 15:12 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.marketwatch.com/story/red-hat-reports-fourth-quarter-and-fiscal-year-2010-results-2010-03-24?reflink=MW_news_stmp | Mar 25 15:18 |
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| schestowitz | up 18% | Mar 25 15:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Booted netbook, thought "Crap! GNOME Panel crashed!" but no! I set the panels to auto hide a few days ago. Silly me! #blamepopey etc | Mar 25 15:21 | |
| schestowitz | tessier: http://ariejan.net/2010/03/24/how-a-little-varnish-changed-my-life/ | Mar 25 15:22 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: How a little varnish changed my life .::. Size~: 8.18 KB | Mar 25 15:22 |
| schestowitz | I've just come across it | Mar 25 15:23 |
| MinceR | http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/10/03/24/2138234/Best-Buy-Offers-Bogus-3D-Sync-Service?from=rss | Mar 25 15:26 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Slashdot Hardware Story | Best Buy Offers Bogus "3D Sync" Service .::. Size~: 167.74 KB | Mar 25 15:26 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ghabuntu.com/2010/03/of-google-china-and-disease-called.html | Mar 25 15:39 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Of Google, China and a disease called hypocrisy | GHABUNTU .::. Size~: 90.49 KB | Mar 25 15:39 |
| schestowitz | "It also amazes me that Google believes it can take on the Chinese government. Very funny. Not even the US government can take on the Chinese government. Their economy is the worlds third largest and about to takeover Japan for the second position." | Mar 25 15:39 |
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| Omar87 | Hi all. | Mar 25 15:42 |
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| balrog_ | schestowitz: http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:O6bmbLpdB1gJ:www.sdtimes.com/DOES_WINDOWS_COST_MICROSOFT_OPPORTUNITIES_/By_David_Worthington/About_NET_and_WINDOWS/34203+http://www.sdtimes.com/link/34203&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk and http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/37880-microsoft-has-shot-net-ecosystem-in-foot-de-icaza?start=1 | Mar 25 15:44 |
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| balrog_ | take a look at those | Mar 25 15:44 |
| balrog_ | the original article is GONE, so grab a copy from google's cache | Mar 25 15:44 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: So what if MS buys Novell? | Mar 25 15:44 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: what if this was the plan? | Mar 25 15:45 |
| balrog_ | de Icaza criticized MS concerning .NET/Mono patents | Mar 25 15:45 |
| balrog_ | basically | Mar 25 15:45 |
| balrog_ | I wonder why SDTimes pulled it so fast | Mar 25 15:45 |
| balrog_ | though that's obvious, I guess | Mar 25 15:45 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: to go let Novell into the .NET realm, wait until it drowns in debt and buy it? | Mar 25 15:46 |
| cubezzz | found a cheap sparcbook | Mar 25 15:48 |
| cubezzz | I don't think that would be good | Mar 25 15:49 |
| cubezzz | if Microsoft bought Novell | Mar 25 15:49 |
| Omar87 | balrog_, de Icaza is nothing but a worthless pawn on a chess board, imho. -_- | Mar 25 15:49 |
| balrog_ | Omar87: I agree, but still articles like this are at least worth reading | Mar 25 15:50 |
| Omar87 | balrog_, true. | Mar 25 15:50 |
| cubezzz | what other non x86 stuff is still current? | Mar 25 15:51 |
| balrog_ | cubezzz: ARM | Mar 25 15:51 |
| balrog_ | my server is ARM | Mar 25 15:51 |
| balrog_ | uses 4 watts of power | Mar 25 15:51 |
| balrog_ | in all | Mar 25 15:51 |
| balrog_ | (well, not including the hard drive) | Mar 25 15:51 |
| cubezzz | right :) | Mar 25 15:51 |
| balrog_ | and I have debian running with no nonfree software installed :) | Mar 25 15:52 |
| cubezzz | shivaplug I believe you told me before? | Mar 25 15:52 |
| balrog_ | sheevaplug | Mar 25 15:52 |
| balrog_ | yea | Mar 25 15:52 |
| cubezzz | sheevaplug :) | Mar 25 15:52 |
| balrog_ | it's a nice little box | Mar 25 15:52 |
| balrog_ | cheap, too | Mar 25 15:52 |
| cubezzz | yeah, it seems it's either ARM or x86 now | Mar 25 15:52 |
| balrog_ | unless it's a video game console | Mar 25 15:52 |
| balrog_ | then it's PPC | Mar 25 15:52 |
| balrog_ | or the PSP, which is MIPS | Mar 25 15:53 |
| balrog_ | (those are all closed platforms anyway) | Mar 25 15:53 |
| cubezzz | yes | Mar 25 15:53 |
| cubezzz | it's not like we can go out and buy an ARM motherboard for desktop or a MIPS board | Mar 25 15:54 |
| balrog_ | well yea | Mar 25 15:55 |
| cubezzz | there's Sam-440 | Mar 25 15:55 |
| cubezzz | and Advantage6, but i emailed them and never got a reply | Mar 25 15:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Bit cramped at work. Usually there's 8-10 people in this bay. 16 working here today.Been a bit "oof!" "'scuse me" "sorry".All day. | Mar 25 15:57 | |
| Omar87 | Hey guys, did you see the leaked ACTA agreement? | Mar 25 15:58 |
| Omar87 | www.thepiratebay.com | Mar 25 15:58 |
| balrog_ | Omar87: haven't had time to read it, but heard about it | Mar 25 15:58 |
| balrog_ | also, it's not totally up to date | Mar 25 15:59 |
| balrog_ | BUT | Mar 25 15:59 |
| Omar87 | www.thepiratebay.orh | Mar 25 15:59 |
| Omar87 | >< | Mar 25 15:59 |
| Omar87 | org* | Mar 25 15:59 |
| balrog_ | if you take the previous partial leaks and combine them with it, then it's quite up to date | Mar 25 15:59 |
| Omar87 | I see. | Mar 25 15:59 |
| balrog_ | http://www.laquadrature.net/files/201001_acta.pdf | Mar 25 16:00 |
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| balrog_ | http://www.laquadrature.net/wiki/ACTA_20100118_version_consolidated_text | Mar 25 16:00 |
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| balrog_ | that's where it came from | Mar 25 16:00 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] normally about now I'd have a kit-kat, today the Cadbury Dairy Milk is catching my eye. Can't think why.http://bit.ly/bR7BZ8 | Mar 25 16:02 | |
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| schestowitz | balrog_: I covered it before itwire did | Mar 25 16:08 |
| schestowitz | The first one to report it was Jason | Mar 25 16:08 |
| balrog_ | schestowitz: link? | Mar 25 16:08 |
| balrog_ | ahh I see it | Mar 25 16:09 |
| balrog_ | well, it wound up on slashdot | Mar 25 16:09 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/24/mono-criticism-vanishes/ http://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/20/realisation-of-the-obvious-re-mono/ | Mar 25 16:09 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: SD Times Removes Miguel de Icazas Admission That Mono Has Patent Problems and de Icaza Mocks Jeremy Allison | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 105.2 KB | Mar 25 16:09 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft MVP de Icaza: Microsoft “Shot the .NET Ecosystem in the Foot” Because of Patent Threats | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 109.43 KB | Mar 25 16:09 |
| schestowitz | I thought you were reading BN | Mar 25 16:10 |
| balrog_ | not much lately | Mar 25 16:10 |
| schestowitz | balrog_: good to know it's in Slashdot | Mar 25 16:10 |
| schestowitz | Jason deserves the credit | Mar 25 16:10 |
| balrog_ | physics classes :\ | Mar 25 16:10 |
| schestowitz | As I said yesterday, Streisand effect | Mar 25 16:10 |
| balrog_ | BN just has too much content to keep up, takes too long | Mar 25 16:10 |
| balrog_ | sorry :[ | Mar 25 16:10 |
| schestowitz | You pull something, you tell someone there's a scandal | Mar 25 16:10 |
| balrog_ | schestowitz: yes, I agree | Mar 25 16:10 |
| schestowitz | It didn't get much attention at first | Mar 25 16:11 |
| schestowitz | Now it's in .. | Mar 25 16:11 |
| schestowitz | /. | Mar 25 16:11 |
| schestowitz | After they had pulled it | Mar 25 16:11 |
| balrog_ | (I'm not complaining about BN itself, just that the amount of content takes too much time out of my busy schedule) | Mar 25 16:11 |
| balrog_ | well yes | Mar 25 16:11 |
| balrog_ | like this wikileaks mess | Mar 25 16:12 |
| schestowitz | What's the /, URL? | Mar 25 16:12 |
| schestowitz | I ought to cite it later | Mar 25 16:12 |
| balrog_ | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/03/25/1331255/De-Icaza-Says-Microsoft-Has-Shot-NET-Ecosystem-In-Foot | Mar 25 16:13 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | De Icaza Says Microsoft Has Shot .NET Ecosystem In Foot .::. Size~: 130 KB | Mar 25 16:13 |
| balrog_ | links to itwire | Mar 25 16:13 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: were you at the heckling in the MSFT booth? | Mar 25 16:14 |
| schestowitz | Sam is just the 4th link in a chain | Mar 25 16:15 |
| schestowitz | David->Me->Jason->Me->ITWire | Mar 25 16:16 |
| schestowitz | The news is several days old | Mar 25 16:16 |
| schestowitz | It could just link to David's when it came out | Mar 25 16:16 |
| schestowitz | http://www.scmagazineuk.com/conservative-effort-at-social-media-experiment-leaves-open-source-cash-gordon-site-directing-to-adult-and-labour-party-websites/article/166314/ | Mar 25 16:17 |
| schestowitz | "The abuse was noted and led to Twitter users sending users to various sites, including pornography sites, the Labour Party website and a video of 1980s pop star Rick Astley." | Mar 25 16:17 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Conservative effort at social media experiment leaves open source Cash Gordon site directing to adult and Labour Party websites - SC Magazine UK .::. Size~: 56.92 KB | Mar 25 16:17 |
| schestowitz | Free publicity | Mar 25 16:17 |
| schestowitz | Yet they pulled the official Astley video from YouTUbe | Mar 25 16:18 |
| schestowitz | As though they would limit access to it | Mar 25 16:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE62M2DI20100323 | Mar 25 16:19 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: French firm files EU antitrust motion against IBM| Reuters .::. Size~: 51.13 KB | Mar 25 16:19 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 25 16:19 |
| schestowitz | "This conduct prevents TurboHercules from providing its product to mainframe customers desiring an open-source solution," he said. | Mar 25 16:19 |
| schestowitz | IBM rejected the accusations, saying it was protecting its intellectual property rights. | Mar 25 16:19 |
| schestowitz | "TurboHercules is an 'emulation' company that seeks a free ride on IBM's massive investments in the mainframe by marketing systems that attempt to mimic the functionality of IBM mainframes," IBM said in a statement. | Mar 25 16:19 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 25 16:19 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: is that _software_ patents? | Mar 25 16:19 |
| schestowitz | Or copyright/trademarks? | Mar 25 16:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/03/rumor-palm-may-ditch-webos-for-android/ | Mar 25 16:22 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Rumor: Palm May Ditch WebOS for Android | Gadget Lab | Wired.com .::. Size~: 103.06 KB | Mar 25 16:22 |
| schestowitz | http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Black-Duck-Software-Blueprint-Software-Systems-OpenMake-Software-Join-CollabNet-Partner-1136139.htm | Mar 25 16:26 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Black Duck Software, Blueprint Software Systems, and OpenMake Software Join CollabNet Partner Network .::. Size~: 18.15 KB | Mar 25 16:26 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, so what if that was MS's plan from the beginning? | Mar 25 16:27 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, to let Novell into the .NET realm and then buy it when a couple years later? | Mar 25 16:28 |
| zoobab | They cleraly say Stop les Brevets | Mar 25 16:40 |
| zoobab | and the Microsoft guy is trying to defend himself | Mar 25 16:40 |
| zoobab | but the sound is very bad | Mar 25 16:41 |
| schestowitz | http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/25/1229229/YouTube-Is-Down | Mar 25 17:01 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Slashdot News Story | YouTube Is Down .::. Size~: 127.38 KB | Mar 25 17:01 |
| schestowitz | Why is this news? | Mar 25 17:01 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: Microsoft wants to be their friend | Mar 25 17:02 |
| schestowitz | It came to the event to tell them, "ditch that LUNIX thing (which we'll sue sue sue) and come to Windows, Ballmer loves ya!" | Mar 25 17:02 |
| schestowitz | Novell too got heckles in India's FS event | Mar 25 17:03 |
| schestowitz | http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/03/dead_on_the_no-.html | Mar 25 17:08 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Schneier on Security: Dead on the No-Fly List .::. Size~: 51.16 KB | Mar 25 17:08 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/25951339 | Mar 25 17:09 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Georg C. F. Greve (greve) 's status on Wednesday, 24-Mar-10 20:12:26 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.1 KB | Mar 25 17:09 |
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| Diablo-D3 | http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/2TmIOUft1x4/De-Icaza-Says-Microsoft-Has-Shotnobr-wbrnobrNET-Ecosystem-In-Foot | Mar 25 17:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | what | Mar 25 17:22 |
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| Diablo-D3 | what | Mar 25 17:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | what | Mar 25 17:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | what | Mar 25 17:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | what | Mar 25 17:22 |
| omar_ | schestowitz, ping | Mar 25 17:23 |
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| Ender2070 | Diablo-D3 - you know a lot of java? im not trolling | Mar 25 17:27 |
| Ender2070 | im just curious if you've used gcj and im also curious if you know any good resources for learning java | Mar 25 17:30 |
| schestowitz | http://legaltimes.typepad.com/blt/2010/03/ban-on-pay-for-delay-patent-settlements-cut-from-health-care-bill.html | Mar 25 17:31 |
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| schestowitz | omar_: what's going on? | Mar 25 17:31 |
| Ender2070 | someone gave me a giant 800 page java 6 in 21 days book | Mar 25 17:31 |
| omar_ | schestowitz, with what? | Mar 25 17:31 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: http://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/24/mono-criticism-vanishes/ http://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/20/realisation-of-the-obvious-re-mono/ | Mar 25 17:31 |
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| tessier_ | schestowitz: I just re-enabled the proxy. | Mar 25 17:31 |
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| schestowitz | omar_: you pinged me | Mar 25 17:31 |
| Ender2070 | schestowitz - lol i read that too | Mar 25 17:32 |
| schestowitz | tessier_: thanks, that's wonderful! | Mar 25 17:32 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3 , Ender2070: just in case, Java patents are with Oracle (OIN) now | Mar 25 17:32 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, I just wanted to ask you.. do you think MS would buy Novell? | Mar 25 17:33 |
| Ender2070 | Oracle would be better off continuing suns work on Java | Mar 25 17:33 |
| Ender2070 | I don't see Oracle as a threat, considering their development work on btrfs and other stuff | Mar 25 17:34 |
| schestowitz | balrog_: what in physics do you specialise in? | Mar 25 17:34 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: no | Mar 25 17:35 |
| schestowitz | Parts of it maybe | Mar 25 17:35 |
| Ender2070 | mainly i hope oracle keeps opensolaris around | Mar 25 17:35 |
| schestowitz | Using partners like Citrix and SAP likely | Mar 25 17:35 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, let us hope so. :) | Mar 25 17:35 |
| Ender2070 | makes a great fileserver | Mar 25 17:35 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: mysql is the tricky one | Mar 25 17:35 |
| schestowitz | .ru auhorities force them toc arry on development | Mar 25 17:36 |
| Ender2070 | schestowitz - if you haven't already switched | Mar 25 17:36 |
| schestowitz | But the capacity to which they'll do it is limited by the threat mysql can impose wrt Oracle's non-Free dbs | Mar 25 17:36 |
| schestowitz | IOW, Oracle will keep mysql simple and upsell | Mar 25 17:36 |
| Ender2070 | there are other database servers | Mar 25 17:37 |
| Ender2070 | postgresql | Mar 25 17:37 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: yes, version control would be nice | Mar 25 17:37 |
| schestowitz | I currently make 50GB tars of my homedirs on two external HDDs | Mar 25 17:37 |
| schestowitz | Lots of redundancy there | Mar 25 17:37 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Mar 25 17:37 |
| Ender2070 | your home pc? | Mar 25 17:37 |
| schestowitz | Unless you have a better idea | Mar 25 17:38 |
| schestowitz | Yes. I have snapshops this way. | Mar 25 17:38 |
| schestowitz | They take hours to disassemble | Mar 25 17:38 |
| Ender2070 | umm | Mar 25 17:38 |
| Ender2070 | not sure, lol | Mar 25 17:38 |
| schestowitz | If I need to pull a file that I lost | Mar 25 17:38 |
| schestowitz | BUT | Mar 25 17:38 |
| Ender2070 | personally, i got all my files on their own server | Mar 25 17:38 |
| Ender2070 | a opensolaris/zfs powered fileserver | Mar 25 17:39 |
| schestowitz | snapshots with metadata and all means bad sector can mess up ALL the backups | Mar 25 17:39 |
| Ender2070 | if a drive dies, i can replace it and be okay | Mar 25 17:39 |
| Ender2070 | if two die im fucked | Mar 25 17:39 |
| schestowitz | I'd rather have each file on several parts of the disk surface | Mar 25 17:39 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: for me it's three | Mar 25 17:39 |
| schestowitz | If there's a fire threat I pull one HDD before I elave | Mar 25 17:40 |
| schestowitz | *leave | Mar 25 17:40 |
| Ender2070 | tripple mirroring? | Mar 25 17:40 |
| schestowitz | I recently deleted my rmote backup | Mar 25 17:40 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: yes, but one location | Mar 25 17:40 |
| schestowitz | I used to have 2, I wiped my machine at the office | Mar 25 17:40 |
| Ender2070 | oh ok | Mar 25 17:40 |
| Ender2070 | im not sure that sounds very weird | Mar 25 17:40 |
| schestowitz | Worst circumstance: fire while I'm away | Mar 25 17:41 |
| Ender2070 | anything i need that is super important, i have an extra copy on an external drive I keep with me at all times | Mar 25 17:41 |
| Ender2070 | documents and stuff like that are small | Mar 25 17:41 |
| schestowitz | I carry with me about half a million files | Mar 25 17:42 |
| schestowitz | +compressed ones | Mar 25 17:42 |
| Ender2070 | i keep my entire ebook collection with me at all times | Mar 25 17:42 |
| Ender2070 | two weeks and kde still hasn't indexed them all | Mar 25 17:42 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Mar 25 17:42 |
| schestowitz | http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/newspaperbeat_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1004077804 | Mar 25 17:44 |
| Ender2070 | i could use pwnage.ca for backup too | Mar 25 17:44 |
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| schestowitz | Ender2070: waste of space | Mar 25 17:44 |
| schestowitz | Unless you use search | Mar 25 17:44 |
| schestowitz | ThunderBird 3 does that | Mar 25 17:44 |
| schestowitz | I rarely use it | Mar 25 17:44 |
| Ender2070 | i do use search | Mar 25 17:44 |
| schestowitz | Just gigabytes down the drain | Mar 25 17:44 |
| Ender2070 | diskspace is cheap | Mar 25 17:44 |
| schestowitz | No | Mar 25 17:44 |
| schestowitz | Not when you backup | Mar 25 17:44 |
| schestowitz | Then you wants to compact it | Mar 25 17:44 |
| Ender2070 | i dont backup search data | Mar 25 17:44 |
| schestowitz | It's in .dir | Mar 25 17:45 |
| Ender2070 | i dont expect the files to stay int he same spot | Mar 25 17:45 |
| Ender2070 | i backup .mozilla and thats about it | Mar 25 17:45 |
| Ender2070 | and files | Mar 25 17:45 |
| Ender2070 | if you weren't worried about the compression you could probably use rsync | Mar 25 17:47 |
| Ender2070 | it could backup the stuff that changed since | Mar 25 17:47 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20100324006640/en | Mar 25 17:51 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Red Hat Reports Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2010 Results | Business Wire .::. Size~: 440.32 KB | Mar 25 17:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Rocknerd: PF#19: Dave Graney, 1992. http://rocknerd.co.uk/2010/03/25/pf19-dave-graney-1992/ | Mar 25 17:51 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Rocknerd » Blog Archive » PF#19: Dave Graney, 1992. .::. Size~: 5.68 KB | Mar 25 17:51 |
| schestowitz | rsync I was using when doing remote backup | Mar 25 17:51 |
| schestowitz | Due to bandwidth | Mar 25 17:51 |
| schestowitz | Passing 50GB overnight takes times | Mar 25 17:52 |
| schestowitz | *Time | Mar 25 17:52 |
| schestowitz | with USB I get about 20MB/sec | Mar 25 17:52 |
| schestowitz | Ethernet 100MB/sec max but less than 10 in practice | Mar 25 17:52 |
| schestowitz | http://www.marketintellisearch.com/articles/1006759.html "Shares of Red Hat Inc closed at $30.17 in the previous trading session and opened today at $30.29. RHT is currently trading at $30.72, up $0.55 (+1.82%) in today's trading session. " | Mar 25 17:53 |
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| schestowitz | http://mbendi.mobi/news_view.xhtml?PG=11&I=106772&sc=s1 | Mar 25 17:53 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: News Item [106772] .::. Size~: 10 KB | Mar 25 17:54 |
| Ender2070 | you have ethernet 100MB/sec? | Mar 25 17:55 |
| Ender2070 | damn | Mar 25 17:55 |
| Ender2070 | how do i get that | Mar 25 17:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.democracynow.org/2010/3/22/arundhati_roy_on_obamas_wars_india | Mar 25 17:55 |
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| Ender2070 | i only have 100Mb | Mar 25 17:55 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: since many years ago | Mar 25 17:55 |
| schestowitz | I had 10Mb 10 years ago | Mar 25 17:55 |
| schestowitz | Asia has the fastest ones | Mar 25 17:56 |
| Ender2070 | i was making fun of your units | Mar 25 17:56 |
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| schestowitz | Ender2070: that speed is only useful if the other endpoint is equally fast | Mar 25 17:56 |
| Ender2070 | MB and Mb not the same | Mar 25 17:56 |
| schestowitz | So I can get this around the area | Mar 25 17:56 |
| schestowitz | Not across the Atlantic | Mar 25 17:56 |
| Ender2070 | our fastest in Canada (which i've seen advertised) is 16Mb/sec down | Mar 25 17:57 |
| Ender2070 | up is nowhere near that | Mar 25 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: gigabit ethernet does 120MB/sec | Mar 25 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Like in Taiwan or Korea | Mar 25 17:57 |
| Ender2070 | i forgot about gigabit | Mar 25 17:57 |
| Ender2070 | it really means nothing for me other than local data transfer rates | Mar 25 17:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Good day, people of the tubes, how are you ladies and gents doing today? | Mar 25 17:58 | |
| schestowitz | http://xanadu.110mb.com/wiki/index.php?n=E-book.USRepressionOfHaitiContinues | Mar 25 17:58 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: x a n a d u | E-book / US Repression of Haiti Continues .::. Size~: 26.35 KB | Mar 25 17:58 |
| schestowitz | "Even though China censors access to these servers, this is a step forward because (1) Google is no longer complicit and (2) people can see the censorship is imposed by the Chinese government. The complaints from that government indicate that the change has hit the target." | Mar 25 17:59 |
| schestowitz | http://www.stallman.org/archives/2010-jan-apr.html#24%20March%202010%20%28Google%20vs.%20China%29 | Mar 25 17:59 |
| schestowitz | Religious schools: http://www.stallman.org/archives/2010-jan-apr.html#24%20March%202010%20%28Google%20vs.%20China%29 | Mar 25 18:00 |
| schestowitz | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1201171/Police-given-powers-enter-homes-tear-anti-Olympics-posters-Games.html | Mar 25 18:01 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Police given powers to enter homes and tear down anti-Olympics posters during Games | Mail Online .::. Size~: 60.68 KB | Mar 25 18:01 |
| schestowitz | They do it like in Canada now | Mar 25 18:01 |
| Ender2070 | yeah im not surprised | Mar 25 18:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/20/AR2010032001329.html | Mar 25 18:02 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: With cheap food imports, Haiti can't feed itself - washingtonpost.com .::. Size~: 92.26 KB | Mar 25 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Oh, I have a story for you... | Mar 25 18:02 |
| Ender2070 | the prime minister right now in canada is an idiot | Mar 25 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Today, after about 6 years, I took all my change to the bank | Mar 25 18:02 |
| schestowitz | It turned out to be almost GBP 100 worth of change! | Mar 25 18:02 |
| Ender2070 | oh yeah? | Mar 25 18:02 |
| Ender2070 | nice | Mar 25 18:03 |
| schestowitz | I could buy a sofa with change | Mar 25 18:03 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Mar 25 18:03 |
| schestowitz | "OK, madam, I've got some change here" | Mar 25 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, it was heavy to carry, but it had to be done | Mar 25 18:03 |
| Ender2070 | tom green tried to buy something with a garbage bag full of pennies | Mar 25 18:04 |
| schestowitz | Yeah :-) | Mar 25 18:04 |
| schestowitz | Kramer too | Mar 25 18:04 |
| schestowitz | "My friend [name]........ he once went ona vacation with his change" | Mar 25 18:04 |
| schestowitz | It's probably on YouTube | Mar 25 18:04 |
| schestowitz | Why is Tom Green not on Vicom, still? | Mar 25 18:05 |
| schestowitz | *Via | Mar 25 18:05 |
| Ender2070 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pp6WC1Ocz4 | Mar 25 18:05 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: YouTube- Michael Richards (Seifneld's Kramer) Racist Rant .::. Size~: 62.3 KB | Mar 25 18:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.democracynow.org/2010/3/23/michael_moore_health_care_bill_a | Mar 25 18:05 |
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| schestowitz | Ender2070: oh my God | Mar 25 18:06 |
| schestowitz | Is that a younger him? | Mar 25 18:06 |
| Ender2070 | no that was like a year or two ago | Mar 25 18:07 |
| Ender2070 | oh like 2006 | Mar 25 18:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Hi all | Mar 25 18:08 |
| schestowitz | What is it that make it go mad? | Mar 25 18:08 |
| schestowitz | It starts with him cursing | Mar 25 18:08 |
| Ender2070 | here it is | Mar 25 18:08 |
| Ender2070 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfbqNi2zezo | Mar 25 18:08 |
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| Ender2070 | the full thing | Mar 25 18:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | seen this link at Groklaw http://www.the-source.com/2010/03/matt-asay-on-partisanship/ | Mar 25 18:08 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Matt Asay on Partisanship .::. Size~: 50.38 KB | Mar 25 18:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Which has this link to the Asay article, read the comments Matt gets http://voices.canonical.com/matt.asay/2010/03/22/lifes-too-short-for-partisanship/ | Mar 25 18:09 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: On the Other Hand& » Blog Archive » Lifes too short for partisanship .::. Size~: 39.13 KB | Mar 25 18:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Comments are truely amazing, don't think Matt expected that | Mar 25 18:10 |
| Ender2070 | apparently they were talking during his comedy and heckling him | Mar 25 18:11 |
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| schestowitz | It's rather shocking | Mar 25 18:11 |
| schestowitz | First I see Seinfeld serving the Software Fascists | Mar 25 18:11 |
| schestowitz | And now Kramer becoming this disgusting thing... | Mar 25 18:12 |
| Ender2070 | Then Kramer is serving the KKK Fascists | Mar 25 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Have Jason Alexander and Dreyfus already done something stupid? | Mar 25 18:12 |
| Ender2070 | Jason Alexander is Duckman, so no | Mar 25 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: I wrote about this already | Mar 25 18:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | oh | Mar 25 18:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | the coments Matt gets are interesting, as he responds to most of them | Mar 25 18:13 |
| Ender2070 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQguTFn5ZBw | Mar 25 18:13 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: YouTube- I, Duckman .::. Size~: 117 KB | Mar 25 18:13 |
| schestowitz | I only now see the comments | Mar 25 18:14 |
| schestowitz | It even has Mono/Novell shill | Mar 25 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Jeffrey Stedfast | Mar 25 18:14 |
| schestowitz | It had no comments when I cited it | Mar 25 18:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | 2nd link comments http://voices.canonical.com/matt.asay/2010/03/22/lifes-too-short-for-partisanship/ | Mar 25 18:14 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: On the Other Hand& » Blog Archive » Lifes too short for partisanship .::. Size~: 39.13 KB | Mar 25 18:14 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* Duckman | Mar 25 18:15 |
| schestowitz | "As far as writing about MS, I disagree. We need to educate people factually what they have done. They are a convicted monopolist, that have used unethical illegal business practices. While I can now buy a Dell laptop online with Ubuntu on it, I cannot go down to the local store and buy one here with anything but Windows on it. Neither can I get a refund on that Microsoft tax here in the USA. " | Mar 25 18:16 |
| schestowitz | *sigh* | Mar 25 18:16 |
| schestowitz | I never likes the Appointment of Mac Asay | Mar 25 18:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | more information in the comments than was in the orginal article | Mar 25 18:16 |
| schestowitz | *liked | Mar 25 18:16 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: yes | Mar 25 18:16 |
| schestowitz | And less time for him to choose his words carefully | Mar 25 18:16 |
| schestowitz | He had lunches with Hilf | Mar 25 18:16 |
| schestowitz | Bill Hilf | Mar 25 18:16 |
| schestowitz | The whole gang... | Mar 25 18:16 |
| schestowitz | I don't trust him | Mar 25 18:17 |
| schestowitz | A lot of people know nothing about it | Mar 25 18:17 |
| schestowitz | Cause they haven't read him for 5 years | Mar 25 18:17 |
| schestowitz | He promoted the anti-BN site | Mar 25 18:17 |
| schestowitz | He doesn't like being criticised but he's fine when I link to him with positive words | Mar 25 18:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I think neither Matt or Mark, have a clue, how much most Linux users dislike and distrust MS, or their partners | Mar 25 18:18 |
| schestowitz | Which means he's intolerant to critics in a way | Mar 25 18:18 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: Matt adores Mark | Mar 25 18:18 |
| schestowitz | because of the $$ | Mar 25 18:18 |
| schestowitz | Dana B called Asay "Big Money Matt" | Mar 25 18:18 |
| schestowitz | Cause he's focused on a dream to make money | Mar 25 18:18 |
| Ender2070 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weRUwXfoGEw | Mar 25 18:18 |
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| schestowitz | And I don't think he has much | Mar 25 18:18 |
| Ender2070 | tom green makes fun of bill gates in this one | Mar 25 18:18 |
| schestowitz | So he was sticking with those who do | Mar 25 18:18 |
| schestowitz | Mark | Mar 25 18:18 |
| schestowitz | When they visited Mark's parents in Argentina | Mar 25 18:19 |
| schestowitz | And went to the Arsenal game in London | Mar 25 18:19 |
| schestowitz | Then lunch | Mar 25 18:19 |
| schestowitz | it's how it all got started | Mar 25 18:19 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: I'm not in the mood for jokes about that big criminals :-) | Mar 25 18:19 |
| schestowitz | *singular | Mar 25 18:19 |
| schestowitz | I'd rather see Green expose misconduct, not joke | Mar 25 18:20 |
| schestowitz | Tyrants don't need to have jokes about them | Mar 25 18:20 |
| Ender2070 | lol he says bill gates doesnt have the balls to swim across lake washington | Mar 25 18:20 |
| schestowitz | They need to have material exposing their crimes | Mar 25 18:20 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: I saw that | Mar 25 18:20 |
| schestowitz | Ages ago | Mar 25 18:20 |
| schestowitz | I think it's *you* who also pasted it here | Mar 25 18:21 |
| Ender2070 | lol probably | Mar 25 18:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Just merged in PyQt4 snippets from Darren and our first DesktopCouch snippets from Huntly! Need more! See: http://is.gd/aVIwO #python | Mar 25 18:21 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | I really liked you posts about MS and China, they need to be exposed as those who actively willingly help opressive regimes while at the same time being hipocites for using PR to say how bad Google privacy is. | Mar 25 18:22 |
| schestowitz | Richards is over | Mar 25 18:22 |
| schestowitz | I've watched some more videos about this incident | Mar 25 18:23 |
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| schestowitz | He has a short fuse | Mar 25 18:23 |
| schestowitz | I can't find what they did to him to rile him up | Mar 25 18:23 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft did the same things | Mar 25 18:23 |
| schestowitz | To judges | Mar 25 18:23 |
| schestowitz | To make them explode | Mar 25 18:23 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Google privacy could improve for sure, but compared to what MS does, they are light years ahead in the freedom department to MS | Mar 25 18:23 |
| schestowitz | Then to dethrone them | Mar 25 18:23 |
| schestowitz | But Microsoft is a criminal company whose lawyers admit that the legal team is corrupt, so... | Mar 25 18:23 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: China's regime is friends with Gates | Mar 25 18:24 |
| schestowitz | They both suppress people | Mar 25 18:24 |
| schestowitz | Like [bong] censorshop | Mar 25 18:24 |
| schestowitz | No choices | Mar 25 18:24 |
| schestowitz | Surveillance, etc. | Mar 25 18:24 |
| schestowitz | A lot of normal folks don't understand what people run Microsoft | Mar 25 18:24 |
| schestowitz | People who developed for Microsoft said that their bosses were "unethical shitheads" | Mar 25 18:24 |
| schestowitz | The developers have to take orders from them | Mar 25 18:25 |
| Ender2070 | Reptilians run it | Mar 25 18:25 |
| schestowitz | I could find the source of the quote | Mar 25 18:25 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: don't insult Reptilians | Mar 25 18:25 |
| schestowitz | I'll toss you out for racism | Mar 25 18:25 |
| schestowitz | : -) | Mar 25 18:25 |
| schestowitz | No reptile deserves this type of comparison | Mar 25 18:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, its needs to be hammered home during this China/Google bailout that MS is instead going the other way towards elimination of freedom | Mar 25 18:25 |
| Ender2070 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZj_SxbU2Oo | Mar 25 18:26 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: YouTube- Tom Green's Early Exposure [3/7] .::. Size~: 115.54 KB | Mar 25 18:26 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/mar/24/google-china-sergey-brin-censorship | Mar 25 18:26 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Google co-founder Sergey Brin urges US to act over China web censorship |Technology |The Guardian .::. Size~: 201.2 KB | Mar 25 18:26 |
| Ender2070 | lol this one is so funny i haven't seen it before | Mar 25 18:27 |
| Ender2070 | he got some weirdo who does some random karate move in public | Mar 25 18:27 |
| schestowitz | http://www.openrightsgroup.org/campaigns/stop-bbc-drm | Mar 25 18:28 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Open Rights Group | Stop BBC DRM .::. Size~: 12.25 KB | Mar 25 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: I'll watch it in a mo | Mar 25 18:28 |
| schestowitz | The whole series | Mar 25 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Green is so fanny | Mar 25 18:29 |
| schestowitz | *funny | Mar 25 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Maybe fanny too *LOL* | Mar 25 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: I'm reading your comment now | Mar 25 18:29 |
| schestowitz | It echoes exactly my thoughts | Mar 25 18:29 |
| schestowitz | I did the post in a rush | Mar 25 18:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @skepticlatheist You know the catholic church doesn't take action because deep down they really do want to keep fucking little boys. | Mar 25 18:30 | |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, it pisses me off when every time I tell my friends about Microsoft's scandals in foreign countries, or I get back is either careless laughs or stuff like "Yeah, but here in Jordan the situation is quite different trust me. They can't do anything to us here" | Mar 25 18:33 |
| Omar87 | *all* I get is either... | Mar 25 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: show them evidence | Mar 25 18:36 |
| schestowitz | They are not educated about it | Mar 25 18:36 |
| schestowitz | It's not something you can cover briefly, you need breath | Mar 25 18:36 |
| schestowitz | *breadth | Mar 25 18:36 |
| Omar87 | I know | Mar 25 18:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Omar87>I believe there was an article that Bing was censoring Gay and Lesbian content or something in the Middle East, without being asked to do so. So in a way Bing does effect Jordon. Myself I don't care that they censor this type of stuff, but once MS starts to censor one thing, where does it end? | Mar 25 18:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | What else will they decide you don't need to know about? Or maybe they already have and people have not found out about it yet? | Mar 25 18:38 |
| Omar87 | Chips_B_Malroy, to be honest, if MS was really censoring Gay Lesbian content, that would be one thing I'm thankful to them for. | Mar 25 18:40 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Omar87> Myself, I not gay, and a bit religous even, but not fanical about it. My point is MS does do things with Bing, do you trust it? | Mar 25 18:41 |
| Omar87 | Gay and Lisbian ppl, imho (and from a Psychological perspective) are psycho's that should be either treated, quarantined or even killed (for their own good). | Mar 25 18:41 |
| Omar87 | Chips_B_Malroy, no I don't trust bing. | Mar 25 18:42 |
| Omar87 | Actually, I barely even trust Google. | Mar 25 18:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | My philosify is live and let live | Mar 25 18:42 |
| Omar87 | These search engines can barely be trusted. | Mar 25 18:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | agreed | Mar 25 18:43 |
| Omar87 | Chips_B_Malroy, Philosophy can be very bad sometimes. | Mar 25 18:43 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: so far it's junk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LeNuqY8_5M&feature=related | Mar 25 18:43 |
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| schestowitz | Omar87: not really | Mar 25 18:46 |
| schestowitz | It's more about values that help people live with fewer frictions | Mar 25 18:46 |
| schestowitz | Like those created by proprietary software | Mar 25 18:47 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, yes really. | Mar 25 18:47 |
| schestowitz | No | Mar 25 18:47 |
| schestowitz | What people do privately is their own business | Mar 25 18:47 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, Philosophy can be much worse than heroin sometimes. | Mar 25 18:47 |
| schestowitz | As long as they don't harm others | Mar 25 18:47 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: doctrines are not safer | Mar 25 18:47 |
| schestowitz | They discourage self-reflection and judgment | Mar 25 18:47 |
| schestowitz | Do the burden of proof test | Mar 25 18:48 |
| schestowitz | And check impact on surroundings | Mar 25 18:48 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, philosophy is what lead most atheists to what they are now. | Mar 25 18:48 |
| schestowitz | What are they now? | Mar 25 18:48 |
| schestowitz | Scientists | Mar 25 18:48 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, atheists. | Mar 25 18:48 |
| schestowitz | No | Mar 25 18:48 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, untrue. | Mar 25 18:48 |
| schestowitz | You can't be an aethist | Mar 25 18:48 |
| schestowitz | It implies deity by default | Mar 25 18:48 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, not all scientists are atheists. | Mar 25 18:48 |
| schestowitz | That's like me saying that "I don't believe that Elvis is alive" | Mar 25 18:49 |
| schestowitz | Omar87:so they have contradiction | Mar 25 18:49 |
| schestowitz | Of culture and practice | Mar 25 18:49 |
| Omar87 | See? That's how philosophy can be worse than heroin. | Mar 25 18:49 |
| schestowitz | Science needs proofs | Mar 25 18:49 |
| schestowitz | Ones that can be observed | Mar 25 18:50 |
| Omar87 | Science has them. | Mar 25 18:50 |
| schestowitz | The best and most compelling type of proof is mathematical | Mar 25 18:50 |
| schestowitz | These can take a long time to achieve | Mar 25 18:50 |
| schestowitz | Some person from Russia won 1 million for solving mathematically a hard problem this month | Mar 25 18:50 |
| schestowitz | Seems like he rejects the prize :-) | Mar 25 18:50 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: science is not a a philosophy | Mar 25 18:51 |
| schestowitz | Neither is calculus | Mar 25 18:51 |
| schestowitz | These are methods | Mar 25 18:51 |
| schestowitz | Newton used calculus to express observed relationships | Mar 25 18:51 |
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| Shd | jo guys | Mar 25 18:51 |
| Shd | I've got ASP.NET on my server | Mar 25 18:51 |
| schestowitz | People before him did not have those mechanisms | Mar 25 18:51 |
| Shd | is this bad | Mar 25 18:51 |
| schestowitz | Hey, Shd | Mar 25 18:51 |
| schestowitz | Shd: it's not bad for Microsoft | Mar 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | They have power over the server | Mar 25 18:52 |
| Shd | is it bad for me? | Mar 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | And its users | Mar 25 18:52 |
| Shd | no they don't | Mar 25 18:52 |
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| schestowitz | Oh dear | Mar 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | The Microsoft boosters come | Mar 25 18:52 |
| Shd | ChrisTX, hai :> | Mar 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | Not ChrisTX | Mar 25 18:52 |
| Shd | <schestowitz> Shd: it's not bad for Microsoft | Mar 25 18:52 |
| Shd | <schestowitz> They have power over the server | Mar 25 18:52 |
| Shd | rifk | Mar 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | Guys, if you're gonna have this discussion, I'll go watch some vids | Mar 25 18:52 |
| Shd | ChrisTX, he doesn't sees what you did there | Mar 25 18:53 |
| Shd | :D | Mar 25 18:53 |
| MinceR | Shd: what software is running on that server? | Mar 25 18:53 |
| Shd | Microsoft(R) Windows(TM) Server 2008(R) | Mar 25 18:54 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, so basically, You're telling me that science tells us that an extremely ultimately complicated universe like this can pop out of nowhere by mere coincidence? | Mar 25 18:54 |
| Omar87 | You call that science? | Mar 25 18:54 |
| MinceR | Shd: then they won't sue you for patent infringement, you'll merely have to put it with their shoddy products. :> | Mar 25 18:54 |
| Omar87 | That's nonsense, imho. | Mar 25 18:54 |
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| MinceR | s/put it/put up/ | Mar 25 18:54 |
| Shd | How come they're shoddy? | Mar 25 18:54 |
| Shd | also yeah using sed syntax in IRC makes u leet | Mar 25 18:54 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: that Tom Green series is quite the rubbish [sic] | Mar 25 18:54 |
| MinceR | they're coded by idiots who have no clue about what they're doing and who don't care | Mar 25 18:55 |
| schestowitz | It's like some cheaply-made Canadian show for local channels | Mar 25 18:55 |
| MinceR | Shd: trolling on IRC makes you banned. | Mar 25 18:55 |
| Shd | MinceR, why Microsoft software is so much more reliable than GNU software? | Mar 25 18:55 |
| schestowitz | [18:54] <Omar87> schestowitz, so basically, You're telling me that science tells us that an extremely ultimately complicated universe like this can pop out of nowhere by mere coincidence?\ | Mar 25 18:55 |
| schestowitz | No | Mar 25 18:55 |
| schestowitz | That's what religion says | Mar 25 18:55 |
| Shd | Cause it's coded by idiots? | Mar 25 18:55 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, no | Mar 25 18:55 |
| schestowitz | That upon someone's wish and command something pops up | Mar 25 18:55 |
| MinceR | Shd: it isn't more reliable, it's less reliable | Mar 25 18:55 |
| Omar87 | That's not what religion says at all. | Mar 25 18:55 |
| MinceR | Shd: it's also slower and less secure. | Mar 25 18:55 |
| nanoo | is this channel pro open source or not? | Mar 25 18:55 |
| schestowitz | Energy and matter are related | Mar 25 18:56 |
| schestowitz | One can turn to another | Mar 25 18:56 |
| Shd | It is more reliable, it is more secure and it's faster. | Mar 25 18:56 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, that's what you atheists say. | Mar 25 18:56 |
| Shd | Did any opensource browser got TLS 1.2? | Mar 25 18:56 |
| schestowitz | LHC does some cool experiments | Mar 25 18:56 |
| Shd | Nope. IE 8 got it. | Mar 25 18:56 |
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| MinceR | Shd: keep telling yourself that. | Mar 25 18:56 |
| schestowitz | Tracing back some relationships and simulating collusions | Mar 25 18:56 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: hold on... | Mar 25 18:56 |
| MinceR | Shd: fwiw, nobody here's interested in the bullshit you're spewing. | Mar 25 18:56 |
| schestowitz | I'll give you some videos | Mar 25 18:56 |
| Omar87 | <schestowitz> One can turn to another | Mar 25 18:56 |
| Shd | MinceR, so you're part of "nobody" | Mar 25 18:56 |
| MinceR | nanoo: what do you mean? | Mar 25 18:56 |
| Shd | ? | Mar 25 18:56 |
| Shd | that's quite sad :( | Mar 25 18:56 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, by mere coincidence? | Mar 25 18:56 |
| *WireWulf is now known as WireWulf-away | Mar 25 18:56 | |
| Ender2070 | schestowitz - it started off as cable access | Mar 25 18:56 |
| Shd | nanoo, it's #boycottnovell | Mar 25 18:56 |
| Shd | says for itself ;D | Mar 25 18:56 |
| schestowitz | This guy is very good: http://www.youtube.com/user/potholer54 | Mar 25 18:56 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz, you do realize coincidence is NOT a cause itself, do you? | Mar 25 18:57 |
| nanoo | OIC you guys are praying to gnu | Mar 25 18:57 |
| schestowitz | Ra is the one I watch these days http://www.youtube.com/user/AronRa http://www.youtube.com/user/AronRa | Mar 25 18:57 |
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| Shd | nanoo, yes they are | Mar 25 18:57 |
| Ender2070 | sick | Mar 25 18:57 |
| MinceR | nanoo: i'd like to see what gave you the idea that we're praying to anyone. | Mar 25 18:57 |
| Ender2070 | trolls :) | Mar 25 18:57 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 25 18:57 |
| schestowitz | [18:56] <Omar87> schestowitz, that's what you atheists say. | Mar 25 18:57 |
| schestowitz | I an not an atheist | Mar 25 18:58 |
| schestowitz | But that's not what "atheists" say | Mar 25 18:58 |
| nanoo | MinceR, you are anti microsft ... so you are gnu fanatics | Mar 25 18:58 |
| schestowitz | The common discrediting tactics is distorting what they say | Mar 25 18:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Americans, particularly Republicans, are goddamn batshit insane and need to be kept away from sharp objects. http://is.gd/aZ2cC | Mar 25 18:58 | |
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| MinceR | nanoo: that's flawed reasoning already, but keep going | Mar 25 18:58 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, coincidence is a result of some previous event. A result with more than one possible shape. ("Tossing a coin in the air yields either head or tail") | Mar 25 18:58 |
| schestowitz | You need to hear it from them, not what their opponents say that they say | Mar 25 18:58 |
| Ender2070 | those arent causes and effects | Mar 25 18:58 |
| schestowitz | [18:57] <Omar87> schestowitz, you do realize coincidence is NOT a cause itself, do you? | Mar 25 18:58 |
| schestowitz | Probability | Mar 25 18:58 |
| schestowitz | Not coincidence | Mar 25 18:58 |
| nanoo | MinceR, whats the point in #boykottnovell then? | Mar 25 18:58 |
| Ender2070 | theres plenty of anti microsoft apply fanboys who dont care about gnu, so fail | Mar 25 18:58 |
| MinceR | nanoo: you haven't reached the conclusion yet | Mar 25 18:58 |
| nanoo | just being there to say microsoft is shitty | Mar 25 18:59 |
| nanoo | tell me pls | Mar 25 18:59 |
| MinceR | nanoo: the point is to raise awareness of how novell is harming the FLOSS community. | Mar 25 18:59 |
| Ender2070 | nanoo - microsoft _is_ shitty | Mar 25 18:59 |
| Shd | FLOSS? | Mar 25 18:59 |
| Shd | er | Mar 25 18:59 |
| Shd | sounds retarded | Mar 25 18:59 |
| nanoo | so you are gnu fans | Mar 25 18:59 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, different names for one thing. | Mar 25 18:59 |
| MinceR | nanoo: but you're welcome to read the introduction on boycottnovell.com | Mar 25 18:59 |
| MinceR | Shd: Free/Libre/Open Source Software | Mar 25 18:59 |
| Ender2070 | nanoo - are apple fanboys gnu fans too? | Mar 25 18:59 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: yes | Mar 25 18:59 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, Probability itself is not a cause itself. | Mar 25 19:00 |
| schestowitz | One is a natural phenomenon described by the proper term | Mar 25 19:00 |
| nanoo | Ender2070, apple fanboys don't care about novell and ms at all | Mar 25 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Formation os most simle life forms in water is propbability | Mar 25 19:00 |
| Shd | let's check how GNUish phIRCe-BNc is | Mar 25 19:00 |
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| MinceR | usually crApple fanboys worship m$, just less so than crApple | Mar 25 19:00 |
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| Shd | tot so. | Mar 25 19:00 |
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| Ender2070 | nanoo - well then being anti microsoft does not = gnu fan | Mar 25 19:00 |
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| nanoo | Ender2070, so you are a applefan who hates ms | Mar 25 19:00 |
| Omar87 | ......... @_@ | Mar 25 19:00 |
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| nanoo | I don't really know why ppl hate software | Mar 25 19:01 |
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| Ender2070 | no im just saying your logic is flawed | Mar 25 19:01 |
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| nanoo | isn't it kind of retarted to hate software | Mar 25 19:01 |
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| Ender2070 | there are some people in here who are apple fans | Mar 25 19:01 |
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| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz | Mar 25 19:01 | |
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| Ender2070 | nanoo - its not retarded to prefer free software | Mar 25 19:01 |
| *schestowitz has kicked Shd from #boycottnovell (User terminated!) | Mar 25 19:02 | |
| *Shd (~shad0www@2001:41d0:2:2307::1) has joined #boycottnovell | Mar 25 19:02 | |
| nanoo | Ender2070, never said that | Mar 25 19:02 |
| *schestowitz sets ban on Shd!*@* | Mar 25 19:02 | |
| *schestowitz has kicked Shd from #boycottnovell (User terminated!) | Mar 25 19:02 | |
| nanoo | but srsly you guys don't you guis have anything better to do than wasting your time falming other companies? | Mar 25 19:02 |
| nanoo | omg | Mar 25 19:02 |
| nanoo | now | Mar 25 19:02 |
| nanoo | i use a opensource client | Mar 25 19:02 |
| *Shd_ (~shad0www@2001:41d0:2:2307::1) has joined #boycottnovell | Mar 25 19:02 | |
| Shd_ | http://gnutards.pastebin.com/7zVJke2x | Mar 25 19:02 |
| *schestowitz has kicked Shd_ from #boycottnovell (User terminated!) | Mar 25 19:03 | |
| *Shd_ (~shad0www@2001:41d0:2:2307::1) has joined #boycottnovell | Mar 25 19:03 | |
| Ender2070 | lol windows | Mar 25 19:03 |
| Shd_ | lol lunix | Mar 25 19:03 |
| *schestowitz has kicked Shd_ from #boycottnovell (User terminated!) | Mar 25 19:03 | |
| *Shd_ (~shad0www@2001:41d0:2:2307::1) has joined #boycottnovell | Mar 25 19:03 | |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: So what I'm saying is, probability itself can NEVER create anything whatsoever. Let along creating something that's extremely complicated that can last for millions of centuries. | Mar 25 19:03 |
| *schestowitz sets ban on Shd_!*@* | Mar 25 19:03 | |
| *schestowitz has kicked Shd_ from #boycottnovell (User terminated!) | Mar 25 19:03 | |
| nanoo | Ender2070, whats so lol about windows? | Mar 25 19:03 |
| *Shd__ (~shad0www@2001:41d0:2:2307::1) has joined #boycottnovell | Mar 25 19:03 | |
| Shd__ | nigga. plz. | Mar 25 19:03 |
| nanoo | I use both linux and windows and i'm happy | Mar 25 19:03 |
| Shd__ | learn to bad. | Mar 25 19:03 |
| *schestowitz sets ban on Shd__!*@* | Mar 25 19:03 | |
| *schestowitz has kicked Shd__ from #boycottnovell (User terminated!) | Mar 25 19:03 | |
| ChrisTX | omg lol | Mar 25 19:04 |
| Ender2070 | theres plenty wrong with windows | Mar 25 19:04 |
| *Shd___ (~shad0www@2001:41d0:2:2307::1) has joined #boycottnovell | Mar 25 19:04 | |
| Shd___ | ban * | Mar 25 19:04 |
| MinceR | learn to spell. | Mar 25 19:04 |
| Shd___ | you not bored? | Mar 25 19:04 |
| *schestowitz sets ban on Shd___!*@* | Mar 25 19:04 | |
| *schestowitz has kicked Shd___ from #boycottnovell (User terminated!) | Mar 25 19:04 | |
| Omar87 | So Shd__ seems like a troll. Huh? | Mar 25 19:04 |
| Ender2070 | if i listed windows problems, i would get banned for spamming | Mar 25 19:04 |
| *Shd______ (~shad0www@2001:41d0:2:2307::1) has joined #boycottnovell | Mar 25 19:04 | |
| Shd______ | cause I'm not | Mar 25 19:04 |
| *schestowitz sets ban on Shd______!*@* | Mar 25 19:04 | |
| *schestowitz has kicked Shd______ from #boycottnovell (User terminated!) | Mar 25 19:04 | |
| *Boxxy (~shad0www@2001:41d0:2:2307::1) has joined #boycottnovell | Mar 25 19:04 | |
| Boxxy | ok hai | Mar 25 19:04 |
| *schestowitz gives channel operator status to MinceR | Mar 25 19:04 | |
| nanoo | Ender2070, yes there is but there is as also enought wrong with linux | Mar 25 19:04 |
| Boxxy | so my name is ShD | Mar 25 19:04 |
| Boxxy | is this bad | Mar 25 19:04 |
| Boxxy | http://gnutards.pastebin.com/7zVJke2x | Mar 25 19:04 |
| Boxxy | http://gnutards.pastebin.com/7zVJke2x | Mar 25 19:04 |
| schestowitz | ban *!*@2001:41d0:2:2307::1 | Mar 25 19:04 |
| *MinceR sets ban on *!*@2001:41d0:2:2307::1 | Mar 25 19:04 | |
| *schestowitz has kicked Boxxy from #boycottnovell (User terminated!) | Mar 25 19:04 | |
| Ender2070 | nanoo - at least people are fixing things and not selling the fixes as a rebranded "new" version | Mar 25 19:05 |
| Ender2070 | vista7 is an example | Mar 25 19:05 |
| *schestowitz sets ban on *!*@2001:41d0:2:2307 | Mar 25 19:05 | |
| nanoo | lol what is vista7 | Mar 25 19:05 |
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| Shd_____________ | seriously | Mar 25 19:05 |
| Shd_____________ | learn to ban mayb | Mar 25 19:05 |
| *schestowitz sets ban on Shd_____________!*@* | Mar 25 19:05 | |
| Shd_____________ | ? | Mar 25 19:05 |
| *MinceR sets ban on *!*shad0www@81.198.234.* | Mar 25 19:05 | |
| *MinceR has kicked Shd_____________ from #boycottnovell (die) | Mar 25 19:05 | |
| nanoo | Konversation | Mar 25 19:05 |
| nanoo | olol | Mar 25 19:05 |
| *MinceR sets ban on *!*@81.198.234.* | Mar 25 19:05 | |
| nanoo | you are useing linux | Mar 25 19:05 |
| nanoo | and say yuo are hating windows | Mar 25 19:05 |
| Omar87 | MinceR, I can help at keeping him out too, if you want. :-) | Mar 25 19:05 |
| nanoo | and then you use like ultra shitty irc client | Mar 25 19:05 |
| nanoo | irssi pls | Mar 25 19:06 |
| Ender2070 | Konversation owns xchat | Mar 25 19:06 |
| MinceR | nanoo: vista7 is the version of vista m$ is marketing as if it was a brand new winblows version | Mar 25 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/03/25/congress.threats/?hpt=T1 | Mar 25 19:06 |
| nanoo | Ender2070, on linux not | Mar 25 19:06 |
| Ender2070 | xchats owner is a douche who charges for a windows binary | Mar 25 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | Teabaggers are trying to murder Republicans now | Mar 25 19:06 |
| Ender2070 | and the linux version is behind in development | Mar 25 19:06 |
| nanoo | i mena if you are on linux u use a terminal client | Mar 25 19:06 |
| nanoo | because linux guis are shitty | Mar 25 19:06 |
| nanoo | . | Mar 25 19:06 |
| Ender2070 | I happen to like Konversation and the KDE SC | Mar 25 19:06 |
| *phIRCe-BNc (~b0t@216.105.40.114) has joined #boycottnovell | Mar 25 19:06 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Hello World! | Mar 25 19:07 |
| MinceR | why do you think linux guis are shitty, nanoo? | Mar 25 19:07 |
| MinceR | too much flexibility? too much functionality? | Mar 25 19:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Wikis are 15 years old today. http://is.gd/aZ2Ur | Mar 25 19:07 | |
| nanoo | well one can't say shitty | Mar 25 19:07 |
| MinceR | or they just look too good? :> | Mar 25 19:07 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: WikiBirthday! 15 years old! .::. Size~: 30.31 KB | Mar 25 19:07 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Mar 25 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | "Enough is enough," Cantor said. "It has to stop." ..... "Now that they're shooting at ME, it's not funny anymore" is more like it | Mar 25 19:07 |
| nanoo | but if I'm on linux i prefere terminal apps | Mar 25 19:07 |
| nanoo | because it's just more mature | Mar 25 19:07 |
| MinceR | why do you think "it's just more mature"? | Mar 25 19:07 |
| nanoo | gui un linux just doesn't feel right | Mar 25 19:07 |
| MinceR | maybe it doesn't feel right to you | Mar 25 19:08 |
| nanoo | like all this kde crap | Mar 25 19:08 |
| nanoo | 5000000000000 million apps | Mar 25 19:08 |
| nanoo | nobody uses | Mar 25 19:08 |
| MinceR | oh noes | Mar 25 19:08 |
| MinceR | many apps! | Mar 25 19:08 |
| Ender2070 | kde is awesome | Mar 25 19:08 |
| MinceR | not at all like on winblows... oh wait | Mar 25 19:08 |
| nanoo | kde is cross platform | Mar 25 19:08 |
| nanoo | thats why it's awesome | Mar 25 19:08 |
| Ender2070 | look at mono, 5 apps | Mar 25 19:08 |
| MinceR | not really | Mar 25 19:08 |
| nanoo | and becaues it's source code is pretty cool | Mar 25 19:08 |
| nanoo | Ender2070, mono is fail | Mar 25 19:08 |
| MinceR | that's just a little help to the unfortunate users still stuck with winblows | Mar 25 19:09 |
| nanoo | thats why the project is fail | Mar 25 19:09 |
| Ender2070 | mono is fail i agree | Mar 25 19:09 |
| Ender2070 | de icaza just said ms failed too | Mar 25 19:10 |
| nanoo | de icaza lives in his own world | Mar 25 19:10 |
| nanoo | http://haax.in/ | Mar 25 19:10 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: schestowitz, you GNUtard, learn to ban! schestowitz, you GNUtard, learn to ban! schestowitz, you GNUtard, learn to ban! schestowitz, you GNUtard, learn to ban! schestowitz, you GNUtard, learn to ban! schestowitz, you GNUtard, learn to ban! schestowitz, you GNUtard, learn to ban! schestowitz, you GNUtard, learn to ban! schestowitz, you GNUtard, learn to ban! schestowitz, you GNUtard, learn to ban! schestowitz, you GNUtard, learn to ban! sches | Mar 25 19:10 |
| *MinceR sets ban on *!*nano@*.superkabel.de | Mar 25 19:10 | |
| *MinceR has kicked nanoo from #boycottnovell (diaf) | Mar 25 19:10 | |
| *MinceR sets ban on *!*@*.superkabel.de | Mar 25 19:10 | |
| Ender2070 | lol | Mar 25 19:10 |
| *MinceR removes ban on *!*nano@*.superkabel.de | Mar 25 19:11 | |
| *MinceR removes ban on *!*shad0www@81.198.234.* | Mar 25 19:11 | |
| Ender2070 | what a bunch of tards | Mar 25 19:11 |
| schestowitz | What a bunch of Microsoftheads | Mar 25 19:11 |
| Ender2070 | i wonder what struck a nerve on BN today | Mar 25 19:11 |
| Ender2070 | :) | Mar 25 19:11 |
| MinceR | must be holiday on m$ indoctrination school | Mar 25 19:11 |
| MinceR | or something | Mar 25 19:11 |
| schestowitz | Miguel trashes Mono | Mar 25 19:11 |
| schestowitz | That kills his movement | Mar 25 19:11 |
| schestowitz | And maybe even Microsoft will boot him or hire him soon | Mar 25 19:12 |
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| schestowitz | I still wonder what led to the article vashigning | Mar 25 19:12 |
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| *MinceR has kicked ragetime from #boycottnovell (diaf) | Mar 25 19:12 | |
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| Ender2070 | lol | Mar 25 19:12 |
| Ender2070 | "when you program for microsoft you're programming for COMMUNISM" | Mar 25 19:12 |
| Ender2070 | +1 | Mar 25 19:13 |
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| schestowitz | Who are these people? Microsoft or Mono? | Mar 25 19:14 |
| schestowitz | or both? | Mar 25 19:14 |
| MinceR | well, one of them was advertising asp.net on winblows, that would be m$ | Mar 25 19:14 |
| Ender2070 | asp.net is retarded | Mar 25 19:15 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZj_SxbU2Oo&feature=related | Mar 25 19:15 |
| MinceR | the other seems to be quite confused | Mar 25 19:15 |
| schestowitz | See the wig part | Mar 25 19:15 |
| schestowitz | The girl looks nice | Mar 25 19:15 |
| Ender2070 | :) | Mar 25 19:15 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Mar 25 19:15 |
| schestowitz | I guess it's just a case of "then they fight you" then | Mar 25 19:15 |
| schestowitz | Indian site | Mar 25 19:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Roy> maybe Miguel can now say more of the truth about the MS patents killing his Mono project, (users mostly distrust Mono) since his job might be coming to an end with the sale or reorganization of Novell. | Mar 25 19:16 |
| schestowitz | Maybe like that chap who called RMS a "m*thf*" or whatever | Mar 25 19:16 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: Mono is already screwed | Mar 25 19:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | majorly | Mar 25 19:16 |
| schestowitz | But Mac Asay is surrounded by Microsoft/Mono boosters | Mar 25 19:16 |
| schestowitz | They mess up Ubuntu | Mar 25 19:16 |
| Ender2070 | chips_b_malroy - maybe now that novell might be going away, he might want to look good? | Mar 25 19:16 |
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| schestowitz | Ender2070: there is demand for gardening | Mar 25 19:17 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Miguel might want to try to repair his reputation in the Linux community | Mar 25 19:17 |
| MinceR | ban evader | Mar 25 19:17 |
| schestowitz | That can keep a developer of of harm | Mar 25 19:17 |
| *WireWulf-away is now known as WireWulf | Mar 25 19:17 | |
| Ender2070 | chips_b_malroy - should port his apps over to java then | Mar 25 19:17 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: s/repair his reputation in/leave/ | Mar 25 19:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | linsux trolls back again? | Mar 25 19:18 |
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| *MinceR removes ban on *!*5f59bd2e@gateway/web/freenode/x-kquwmndrrwqgeanz | Mar 25 19:18 | |
| MinceR | maybe | Mar 25 19:18 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: I thought it was Mono bullies/vandals at first | Mar 25 19:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Andy Breiner just added our 150th Python Snippet which covers 22 modules. Nice! Want to add yours? See http://is.gd/aVIwO #pythonsnippets | Mar 25 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | Because of the timing | Mar 25 19:18 |
| schestowitz | it's usually provoked by something like that /, on Mono thing | Mar 25 19:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | could be | Mar 25 19:18 |
| Ender2070 | sounds like the linsux guys | Mar 25 19:18 |
| schestowitz | Then, Miguel calls Allison a "Conspiracy theorist" and his violent Microsoft minions do their "shacking" | Mar 25 19:19 |
| schestowitz | *whacking" | Mar 25 19:19 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu has some of them too | Mar 25 19:19 |
| Ender2070 | when? | Mar 25 19:19 |
| schestowitz | Not just Novell/Ximian | Mar 25 19:19 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Mar 25 19:19 |
| schestowitz | See the comments from Jeff in Mac Asay's blog | Mar 25 19:19 |
| Ender2070 | LOL seriously? | Mar 25 19:20 |
| schestowitz | It's like Linux is being invaded by salmonella germs | Mar 25 19:20 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: yes | Mar 25 19:20 |
| schestowitz | See the link from Chips_B_Malroy | Mar 25 19:20 |
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| Ender2070 | http://voices.canonical.com/matt.asay/2010/03/22/lifes-too-short-for-partisanship/ ? | Mar 25 19:21 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Mar 25 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/hank-skinner-minute-stay-execution-supreme-court-texas/story?id=10200157 | Mar 25 19:21 |
| activo | hi | Mar 25 19:22 |
| MinceR | hay | Mar 25 19:22 |
| activo | which linux distro is recommned by boycottnovell? | Mar 25 19:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | You cannot trust Bing, you cannot trust MSNBC, and you cannot trust a MS hotmail account not to be comprised if you are a Chinese Freedom adovate. In fact you just cannot trust MS. | Mar 25 19:24 |
| MinceR | i don't think there's a single recommended distro | Mar 25 19:24 |
| MinceR | just a few distros that are recommended against :) | Mar 25 19:24 |
| MinceR | that leaves a long list | Mar 25 19:24 |
| activo | is arch fine | Mar 25 19:24 |
| MinceR | afaik it is | Mar 25 19:24 |
| ChrisTX | like opensuse? | Mar 25 19:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MS=misinformation, censorship, and colaberation with repressive regimes | Mar 25 19:25 |
| MinceR | yes, opensuse would be one that's affected by the novell/m$ deal | Mar 25 19:25 |
| activo | i heard they have non foss in their standart repos | Mar 25 19:25 |
| activo | thats why i wanted to ask | Mar 25 19:25 |
| MinceR | it is up to you to decide whether you want nonfree software in the standard repos or not :) | Mar 25 19:25 |
| MinceR | there's a wide variety of stances on it | Mar 25 19:25 |
| MinceR | some users want their kernel free of blobs, some don't | Mar 25 19:26 |
| activo | some foss just sucks, admit it | Mar 25 19:26 |
| MinceR | personally i like to have everything available, but not to rely too much on anything that's nonfree | Mar 25 19:26 |
| MinceR | so if it goes away i can keep operating | Mar 25 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | and oddly enough, a default installation of OpenSuse doesn't have Mono | Mar 25 19:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] BBC News - Microsoft Office becomes a game - Yet more BBC Microsoft promotions http://tinyurl.com/yb77wyx | Mar 25 19:27 | |
| MinceR | (i can't speak for BN, though) | Mar 25 19:27 |
| Ender2070 | activo - if you use arch you need to add a mono exclusion to your pacman config | Mar 25 19:28 |
| activo | <DaemonFC> and oddly enough, a default installation of OpenSuse doesn't have Mono | Mar 25 19:28 |
| activo | i like mono very much | Mar 25 19:28 |
| MinceR | you like to live dangerously? :> | Mar 25 19:28 |
| activo | i learned programming with it | Mar 25 19:28 |
| activo | c# is a very cool language | Mar 25 19:28 |
| Ender2070 | we don't recommend mono or c# | Mar 25 19:29 |
| activo | lolwhy | Mar 25 19:29 |
| MinceR | because mono's legal status is questionable at best | Mar 25 19:29 |
| activo | i'll stfu | Mar 25 19:29 |
| activo | then ok | Mar 25 19:29 |
| activo | is it forbidden to tell how you learnt a languae | Mar 25 19:29 |
| activo | oic | Mar 25 19:29 |
| MinceR | i don't understand this sudden outburst | Mar 25 19:29 |
| activo | didn't microsoft say they won't make mono illegial? | Mar 25 19:30 |
| MinceR | m$ took the effort to make the legality of using mono on gnu/linux unsure, even de icaza called them on that (and then had that article removed) | Mar 25 19:30 |
| MinceR | they said a lot of things | Mar 25 19:30 |
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| activo | that doesn't make esnse | Mar 25 19:30 |
| activo | ] <@MinceR> because mono's legal status is questionable at best | Mar 25 19:30 |
| ChrisTX | eh no | Mar 25 19:31 |
| MinceR | what they didn't do was providing a clear and complete patent license to all users of mono, without royalties or other liabilities | Mar 25 19:31 |
| activo | why does microsoft have a "pact" with novell then? | Mar 25 19:31 |
| ChrisTX | mono and C# in general are covered by a legally binding promise | Mar 25 19:31 |
| MinceR | because mcbride was stupid enough to sign one | Mar 25 19:31 |
| Ender2070 | its a pact with _novell_ | Mar 25 19:31 |
| ChrisTX | they cannot empty it | Mar 25 19:31 |
| MinceR | novell had a chance of becoming relevant after buying ximian and usse | Mar 25 19:31 |
| activo | i think ChrisTX is right in this point | Mar 25 19:31 |
| MinceR | s/usse/suse/ | Mar 25 19:31 |
| MinceR | but they decided to become a tool of m$ instead | Mar 25 19:31 |
| activo | good decision in my eyes | Mar 25 19:32 |
| activo | better than anything else tey could havedone | Mar 25 19:32 |
| MinceR | actually that promise doesn't cover the entirety of .net/mono, and doesn't make mono free software because it only covers implementations according to the ecma "standard" specs | Mar 25 19:32 |
| activo | pls | Mar 25 19:32 |
| activo | think with a brain of a businessman | Mar 25 19:32 |
| Ender2070 | ChrisTX - even miguel said the promise only covered base things, and not LINQ, and many other things | Mar 25 19:32 |
| MinceR | so if you change the way mono operates (as you would with any free software), you might lose that "promise" | Mar 25 19:32 |
| Ender2070 | ChrisTX - winforms, asp.net are not covered | Mar 25 19:33 |
| activo | miguel is like you god or what? | Mar 25 19:33 |
| MinceR | nope, it's like your god | Mar 25 19:33 |
| MinceR | he's the first and foremost pusher of mono into gnu/linux | Mar 25 19:33 |
| activo | winforms are shitty | Mar 25 19:33 |
| activo | thats why | Mar 25 19:33 |
| MinceR | "shittiness" is no criterion for inclusion in a patent license | Mar 25 19:33 |
| activo | kill him with fire | Mar 25 19:33 |
| Ender2070 | linsux trolls | Mar 25 19:34 |
| activo | ok now i gonna switch to archlinux | Mar 25 19:34 |
| MinceR | have fun | Mar 25 19:34 |
| activo | first i need a irc client | Mar 25 19:34 |
| activo | any recommendations | Mar 25 19:34 |
| WireWulf | archlinux us he shit :P | Mar 25 19:34 |
| WireWulf | weechat | Mar 25 19:34 |
| MinceR | do you prefer gui or text irc clients? | Mar 25 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2010/03/ie8-safari4-firefox3-iphone-fall-on-day-1-of-pwn2own.ars | Mar 25 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 25 19:35 |
| activo | i saw a screenshow of an irc client once | Mar 25 19:35 |
| activo | MinceR: terminal | Mar 25 19:35 |
| MinceR | activo: then i can recommend irssi | Mar 25 19:35 |
| activo | somehting like that | Mar 25 19:35 |
| activo | it was called like irrsinn | Mar 25 19:35 |
| activo | so weechat | Mar 25 19:35 |
| activo | that looks nice | Mar 25 19:35 |
| Ender2070 | DaemonFC - what about chrome/chromium or konquerer? | Mar 25 19:36 |
| activo | ja that was the name | Mar 25 19:36 |
| activo | i can't remember | Mar 25 19:36 |
| activo | AHAHA | Mar 25 19:36 |
| MinceR | Ender2070: chrome was in the contest and nobody even tried to attack it :) | Mar 25 19:36 |
| activo | OMG CHROME IS BIG COMERCIAL APPLICATION | Mar 25 19:36 |
| activo | DON'T US EIT | Mar 25 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | http://vreugdenhilresearch.nl/Pwn2Own-2010-Windows7-InternetExplorer8.pdf | Mar 25 19:36 |
| activo | google has a builtin id | Mar 25 19:36 |
| activo | i heard | Mar 25 19:36 |
| Ender2070 | chromium is open source | Mar 25 19:36 |
| Ender2070 | client-id is being removed | Mar 25 19:37 |
| activo | oic | Mar 25 19:37 |
| activo | but they don't have all featrues chrome has | Mar 25 19:37 |
| Ender2070 | yes they do | Mar 25 19:37 |
| MinceR | afaik the only thing missing is the google branding, but i could be wrong | Mar 25 19:37 |
| Ender2070 | i use it in fedora, its good stuff | Mar 25 19:38 |
| activo | nothing owns vimprobable or surf as browser | Mar 25 19:38 |
| activo | uzbl is fine too | Mar 25 19:38 |
| MinceR | (and i'm certainly interested in whether i'm wrong or not, even though i'd definitely choose chromium out of those two) | Mar 25 19:38 |
| Ender2070 | chromium is sweet | Mar 25 19:39 |
| MinceR | for now my browser of choice is firefox with noscript, adblock plus, taboo, live http headers, web developer toolbar and a few minor extensions | Mar 25 19:39 |
| MinceR | but i've heard that chromium is getting a javascript and plugin whitelist | Mar 25 19:39 |
| activo | chromium is being mainly developed by google | Mar 25 19:39 |
| activo | that's why i wuoln't use it | Mar 25 19:39 |
| Ender2070 | i have no problems with google | Mar 25 19:39 |
| activo | even IE looks better to me | Mar 25 19:39 |
| MinceR | my main problem with chromium was that it rendered my fonts badly, and i don't know if that has improved or not | Mar 25 19:40 |
| activo | surf | Mar 25 19:40 |
| activo | is the browser of the futeure | Mar 25 19:40 |
| Ender2070 | mincer - http://www.pwnage.ca/chromium.png | Mar 25 19:40 |
| activo | hail da surf | Mar 25 19:40 |
| activo | MinceR: configure your .Xdefaults | Mar 25 19:40 |
| activo | surf | Mar 25 19:40 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if it has anything to do with .xdefaults | Mar 25 19:40 |
| Ender2070 | did it look like that at all? | Mar 25 19:40 |
| activo | MinceR: all font hinting etc is set there | Mar 25 19:41 |
| MinceR | Ender2070: i'm not sure | Mar 25 19:41 |
| MinceR | iirc hinting with DejaVu Sans was visibly broken | Mar 25 19:41 |
| MinceR | i can't see that clearly on this screenshot | Mar 25 19:41 |
| MinceR | but our antialiasing settings might be different | Mar 25 19:41 |
| activo | Ender2070: is that a screene of yours? | Mar 25 19:41 |
| Ender2070 | yes | Mar 25 19:41 |
| Ender2070 | on my laptop | Mar 25 19:41 |
| activo | oh what a waste | Mar 25 19:42 |
| Ender2070 | ? | Mar 25 19:42 |
| activo | then you don't have to move all those windows | Mar 25 19:42 |
| activo | use dwm | Mar 25 19:42 |
| activo | or do you want to be like a windows user | Mar 25 19:43 |
| MinceR | this is not a question of being "like a windows user" | Mar 25 19:43 |
| activo | kde is fail too | Mar 25 19:43 |
| Ender2070 | i like kde | Mar 25 19:43 |
| activo | its like a try to immitate windows | Mar 25 19:43 |
| MinceR | stop being so childish | Mar 25 19:43 |
| activo | Ender2070: so kde user = windows user | Mar 25 19:44 |
| activo | both stupid like shit | Mar 25 19:44 |
| MinceR | kde always did many things windows never could do | Mar 25 19:44 |
| Ender2070 | kde is superior to windows | Mar 25 19:44 |
| activo | OHOHOH | Mar 25 19:44 |
| activo | tell me what pls | Mar 25 19:44 |
| activo | ok | Mar 25 19:44 |
| activo | proove | Mar 25 19:44 |
| activo | compared to windows is on the same level | Mar 25 19:44 |
| Ender2070 | better than windows | Mar 25 19:44 |
| activo | ya sure | Mar 25 19:44 |
| MinceR | virtual desktops, setting any window always on top, toggling window decorations on any window, freely assigned window operation shortcuts | Mar 25 19:45 |
| MinceR | replaceable window decorators | Mar 25 19:45 |
| Ender2070 | compositing effects | Mar 25 19:45 |
| MinceR | compositing effects are newer and include many things windows won't do | Mar 25 19:45 |
| activo | not having a bloated desktop environtment is the key to succes | Mar 25 19:45 |
| activo | [20:34] <Ender2070> compositing effects | Mar 25 19:45 |
| MinceR | for example, desktop grid and present windows | Mar 25 19:45 |
| activo | wow | Mar 25 19:45 |
| activo | very good argument | Mar 25 19:45 |
| Ender2070 | i was adding to mincers | Mar 25 19:46 |
| activo | waste time plaing with fancy window destroying effects | Mar 25 19:46 |
| MinceR | it pretty much does everything compiz can, but does so more stably and reliably | Mar 25 19:46 |
| MinceR | sounds like you don't really know what compositing can do :> | Mar 25 19:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] 150 Python Snippets. 20 Topics. Nice! - http://is.gd/aZ67o #ubuntu #python #opportunisticdevelopers #ubuntu #gnome #kde | Mar 25 19:46 | |
| Ender2070 | he saw some youtube videos in ie | Mar 25 19:46 |
| activo | tell me pls? | Mar 25 19:47 |
| activo | why do we need see through windows? | Mar 25 19:47 |
| activo | comopisting is the ibggest fail at desktopenvirontmens | Mar 25 19:47 |
| MinceR | compositing means windows can be updated even if they aren't onscreen, they won't need to be redrawn when they're made visible, you can get live views of windows when switching and window management effects like desktop grid and present windows are possible | Mar 25 19:47 |
| MinceR | yes, it also does true transparency | Mar 25 19:47 |
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| MinceR | i also find realtime zoom useful | Mar 25 19:47 |
| MinceR | true transparency is useful for transparent terminals and OSD notification windows | Mar 25 19:47 |
| activo | MinceR: useing such an window manager is just like epic fail | Mar 25 19:47 |
| MinceR | activo: yes, very convincing argument there | Mar 25 19:47 |
| activo | try to use tiling window managers | Mar 25 19:48 |
| Ender2070 | activo - says a windows user | Mar 25 19:48 |
| MinceR | tiling wms aren't for me | Mar 25 19:48 |
| MinceR | i often arrange windows in a non-tiled way | Mar 25 19:48 |
| MinceR | or maximize them -- in which case a tiling wm and a non-tiling wm behaves identically | Mar 25 19:48 |
| activo | Ender2070: i got to use windows for works | Mar 25 19:48 |
| activo | *work | Mar 25 19:48 |
| activo | its better than pushing windows all the time | Mar 25 19:48 |
| Ender2070 | is your work trolling for microsoft? | Mar 25 19:48 |
| activo | MinceR: not true | Mar 25 19:48 |
| MinceR | "pushing windows"? | Mar 25 19:48 |
| MinceR | and as you can see i heavily rely on compositing and not just for eye candy :) | Mar 25 19:49 |
| activo | nontiling wms ofthen have a like 50 pixel big border | Mar 25 19:49 |
| MinceR | not if you set them up to your liking | Mar 25 19:49 |
| activo | that sucks on small displayls like netbooks have | Mar 25 19:49 |
| MinceR | i have 1pixel wide borders | Mar 25 19:49 |
| MinceR | and the borders go away if i maximize a window or disable its decorations | Mar 25 19:49 |
| activo | for what is compositing needed then? | Mar 25 19:49 |
| Ender2070 | activo - plasma svg netbook interface ftw :P | Mar 25 19:49 |
| MinceR | mostly for these: desktop grid, present windows, realtime zoom, true transparency | Mar 25 19:50 |
| activo | Ender2070: you are so fail | Mar 25 19:50 |
| Ender2070 | activo - you know how fail and stupid tiling is | Mar 25 19:50 |
| activo | MinceR has at least niveau | Mar 25 19:50 |
| Ender2070 | noob | Mar 25 19:50 |
| MinceR | and for rapid switching between windows and desktops without having to wait for redrawing (though backing store can solve that problem to some extent) | Mar 25 19:50 |
| Ender2070 | you're just here to fight about shit | Mar 25 19:50 |
| activo | ohoho | Mar 25 19:50 |
| MinceR | i think tiling is a matter of preference. | Mar 25 19:50 |
| activo | MinceR: if you don't use all the bloatet apps no window will ever have any lacks because af redrawing | Mar 25 19:51 |
| Ender2070 | if you have a penchant for schitzophrenia, yes tiling could be an option | Mar 25 19:51 |
| MinceR | i can't always just choose not to use a bloated app | Mar 25 19:51 |
| MinceR | for example if a website can't be used without trash/javascript, it will definitely make the browser bloated | Mar 25 19:52 |
| MinceR | there's no getting around that if the info you need happens to be on that site | Mar 25 19:52 |
| activo | Ender2070: I get the feeling you are a 13 year old boy who managed to install linux | Mar 25 19:52 |
| Ender2070 | activo - vs you, running windows? | Mar 25 19:52 |
| activo | now you are ultra 1337 | Mar 25 19:52 |
| activo | and think yo uare cool ethc | Mar 25 19:52 |
| activo | widnwos isn'T that bad | Mar 25 19:53 |
| activo | and yes | Mar 25 19:53 |
| activo | thats not the point of linux | Mar 25 19:53 |
| activo | I'm not ignorant | Mar 25 19:53 |
| activo | I prefere linux at home | Mar 25 19:53 |
| Ender2070 | i'll believe it when I see it | Mar 25 19:53 |
| activo | I said i have to use it for work already | Mar 25 19:53 |
| activo | thouhg | Mar 25 19:53 |
| Ender2070 | a lot of shills say they run it | Mar 25 19:53 |
| activo | oh wat | Mar 25 19:54 |
| activo | shall a do a screene or what? | Mar 25 19:54 |
| Ender2070 | "i run linux, so i know how balls it is" "this and that is broken" "win7 is pretty good" | Mar 25 19:54 |
| activo | links | Mar 25 19:54 |
| activo | links | Mar 25 19:54 |
| activo | links | Mar 25 19:54 |
| Ender2070 | etc | Mar 25 19:54 |
| activo | links | Mar 25 19:54 |
| MinceR | activo: don't flood | Mar 25 19:54 |
| activo | what | Mar 25 19:54 |
| activo | linux = balls | Mar 25 19:54 |
| activo | haax.in | Mar 25 19:54 |
| activo | haax.in | Mar 25 19:54 |
| activo | sense pls | Mar 25 19:54 |
| activo | haax.in | Mar 25 19:54 |
| activo | haax.in | Mar 25 19:54 |
| activo | fuuu | Mar 25 19:54 |
| activo | haax.in | Mar 25 19:54 |
| activo | haax.in | Mar 25 19:54 |
| *MinceR sets ban on *!*266c7d10@gateway/web/freenode/x-czugnkhczvfrjmll | Mar 25 19:55 | |
| *MinceR has kicked activo from #boycottnovell (was this trip really necessary?) | Mar 25 19:55 | |
| Ender2070 | [15:44] [CTCP] Received CTCP-VERSION reply from activo: qwebirc v0.85, copyright (C) Chris Porter 2008-2009 -- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.2) Gecko/20100316 Firefox/3.6.2. | Mar 25 19:55 |
| Ender2070 | i told you | Mar 25 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Why is it such a problem to get rid of him? | Mar 25 19:55 |
| *MinceR sets ban on *!*26*@gateway/* | Mar 25 19:55 | |
| *MinceR removes ban on *!*266c7d10@gateway/web/freenode/x-czugnkhczvfrjmll | Mar 25 19:55 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: this user was from a different isp than the previous ones | Mar 25 19:56 |
| Ender2070 | it was probably his real non bounced ip | Mar 25 19:56 |
| MinceR | (also, i miss hyperion's username encoding already) | Mar 25 19:56 |
| Ender2070 | or it was another bounced one | Mar 25 19:56 |
| MinceR | (then i could have said ?=26* there and have a ban that applies to less addresses) | Mar 25 19:56 |
| Ender2070 | he could end up being back | Mar 25 19:56 |
| MinceR | or it was another linsux troll | Mar 25 19:56 |
| Ender2070 | ChrisTX might also be one | Mar 25 19:56 |
| ChrisTX | I'm not from linsux sorry | Mar 25 19:57 |
| MinceR | that's what they would say too :> | Mar 25 19:57 |
| ChrisTX | no I'm really not | Mar 25 19:57 |
| ChrisTX | dunno linsux looked to me like BSD-vs-GPL camp with their huge FreeBSD banner | Mar 25 19:58 |
| MinceR | bsd fanaticism is common among m$ fanboys | Mar 25 19:58 |
| ChrisTX | I am probably a microsoft 'fanboy', you could say that | Mar 25 19:58 |
| MinceR | they're butthurt about GPL because it doesn't allow m$ to just steal code and sell it | Mar 25 19:58 |
| ChrisTX | but why bsd? | Mar 25 19:58 |
| MinceR | so when they look at non-winblows os-es (dunno why, maybe deep down they do realize how shoddy winblows is), they naturally gravitate toward *bsd | Mar 25 19:59 |
| ChrisTX | honestly said I do think that the BSD/MIT license is what you'd call more 'free' than the GPL | Mar 25 19:59 |
| ChrisTX | but I don't really care | Mar 25 19:59 |
| Ender2070 | more free for the developer, less free for the user | Mar 25 20:00 |
| MinceR | honestly i think we need GPL until we can defeat the likes of m$ and crApple, then we could do public domain | Mar 25 20:00 |
| MinceR | currently the main issue seems to be sw patents | Mar 25 20:00 |
| ChrisTX | there are really retarded ones... did the patent on the shopping cart expire yet? | Mar 25 20:00 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Mar 25 20:00 |
| MinceR | since it's possible to distribute code under BSDL and keep sw patents referring to it so that nobody can really distribute changed versions (so it's nonfree) | Mar 25 20:01 |
| MinceR | dunno, but i remember reading that amazon got their 1-click patent accepted or confirmed or something recently | Mar 25 20:01 |
| ChrisTX | sw patents would be totally fine if they'd limit what you can patent | Mar 25 20:01 |
| MinceR | yes, to an empty set | Mar 25 20:01 |
| MinceR | then they'd be totally fine :> | Mar 25 20:02 |
| ChrisTX | I mean there's stuff - like real - inventions that you can argue to protect | Mar 25 20:02 |
| MinceR | implementations are currently protected by copyright; vague ideas shouldn't be protected; so nothing remains for patents to protect | Mar 25 20:02 |
| ChrisTX | but please, a shopping cart? Probably I should patent a car and ask daimler to pay me | Mar 25 20:02 |
| MinceR | you could pay the patent office to forget about prior art and get the patent, then daimler would have to pay some money into proving your patent invalid | Mar 25 20:03 |
| MinceR | but it wouldn't hinder them much, they've got money to burn :> | Mar 25 20:03 |
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| MinceR | plus the court might force you to pay their costs in the end, i'm not sure | Mar 25 20:03 |
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| Ender2070 | i got kubuntu 10.04 upgrading in a vm right now | Mar 25 20:06 |
| Ender2070 | net upgrades are sweet | Mar 25 20:06 |
| Ender2070 | i wish they used deltas, lol | Mar 25 20:07 |
| MinceR | iirc pardus uses deltas | Mar 25 20:09 |
| MinceR | or was that fedora? | Mar 25 20:09 |
| Ender2070 | fedora does use deltas | Mar 25 20:10 |
| Ender2070 | opensuse is using gcc 4.5 | Mar 25 20:10 |
| Ender2070 | :( i want gcc 4.5 | Mar 25 20:10 |
| Ender2070 | in 11.3 | Mar 25 20:11 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Mark talks about how less is more and how we can refine design in free software - http://is.gd/aZ81A #ubuntu #design | Mar 25 20:11 | |
| *DaemonFC checks into renting a length of rope to hang himself from | Mar 25 20:15 | |
| Ender2070 | renting lol | Mar 25 20:16 |
| Ender2070 | if you're gonna hang yourself, put the rope on your credit card | Mar 25 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | yep, can someone take it back? those late fees are killer | Mar 25 20:16 |
| Ender2070 | let the bank pay for it | Mar 25 20:16 |
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| DaemonFC | I still have a bank account open with $0 in it since 2003 | Mar 25 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | because I moved and they told me I'd have to drive 100 miles to their closest branch to shut the account down | Mar 25 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 25 20:18 |
| Ender2070 | ok | Mar 25 20:18 |
| Ender2070 | what does that have to do with hanging youself, offtopic | Mar 25 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | I have $250 overdraft credit | Mar 25 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 25 20:19 |
| MinceR | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/fastscroll.jpg | Mar 25 20:19 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Mar 25 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | I really really really hate my life right now | Mar 25 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | this week has been one of the worst | Mar 25 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | and it shows no sign of letting up | Mar 25 20:20 |
| Ender2070 | its the liberals | Mar 25 20:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @robbychen: Cheap netbook running !Ubuntu produced by !IBM http://bit.ly/cM6aUu !gnu !Linux | Mar 25 20:21 | |
| DaemonFC | you know, it really is | Mar 25 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | mandating that they give credit to all the minorities that never pay them back | Mar 25 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | so they can screw me over repeatedly and tell me I'm too much of a risk | Mar 25 20:22 |
| Ender2070 | the liberal media wants to give your country away to an illegal immigrant | Mar 25 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | federal programs to give free apartments to prostitutes and drug dealers | Mar 25 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | that's what happens in the subsidized housing projects | Mar 25 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | it's all that happens there | Mar 25 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | prostitutes and drug dealers | Mar 25 20:24 |
| Ender2070 | yo | Mar 25 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | working white people pay taxes so the government can warehouse minorities there to sell themselves or drugs | Mar 25 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | and I don't just believe that because anyone said so | Mar 25 20:24 |
| Ender2070 | where do you think the politicians are gonna get their fix? they dont want to hang out in alleys | Mar 25 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | I have verified it | Mar 25 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | all of the projects I've seen have ended up like that | Mar 25 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | 90% minorities, mostly drug dealers | Mar 25 20:25 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Mar 25 20:25 |
| Ender2070 | there as a politician here who kept a couple immigrants hostage as slaves/house cleaners | Mar 25 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | the people that get stuck out there that aren't criminals end up victimized by the criminals | Mar 25 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | break ins | Mar 25 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | rapes | Mar 25 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | murders | Mar 25 20:26 |
| Ender2070 | she kept their immigration papers and their ID/birth certs | Mar 25 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | she bought the whole kit on eBay | Mar 25 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | That's why California is trying to give out drivers licenses to illegals | Mar 25 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | if the state doesn't HAVE to look and see that you're an illegal there, nobody will ever "find out" | Mar 25 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | you can keep using your phony documentation as well as your real drivers license | Mar 25 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | the police can't report you to immigration | Mar 25 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | the state won't cooperate with ICE | Mar 25 20:29 |
| Ender2070 | is that more liberal agenda stuff? | Mar 25 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | they're a de facto citizen all of a sudden | Mar 25 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | pretty much | Mar 25 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | it's also why California is broke | Mar 25 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | and why nobody should have to bail them out | Mar 25 20:30 |
| Ender2070 | the governator keeps giving his buddies too many tax breaks | Mar 25 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | if they want to be Little Mexico, we should expel them from the Union or force them to change their policies | Mar 25 20:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | we will bail out California | Mar 25 20:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | that is certain | Mar 25 20:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] I may live in America, but bleedin' nora, do I love PG Tips tea. I have a dealer who hooks me up. | Mar 25 20:31 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | as this administrator is Democrat | Mar 25 20:31 |
| satipera | MinceR in the absence of apple and MS what would be the advantage of public domain? | Mar 25 20:31 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | *administration | Mar 25 20:31 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its why the debt and defaulting in Calif does not affect the dollar, as everyone knows Obama will stand behind that doubt if Calif fails in a big way. however, Greece and now Portugal, those are not so certain to be bailed out, so the Euro takes a beating | Mar 25 20:33 |
| MinceR | satipera: the same thing as free software works | Mar 25 20:34 |
| MinceR | satipera: hopefully on the long term we can expect people to behave responsibly | Mar 25 20:35 |
| satipera | Would that type of licence stop people doing a tivo? | Mar 25 20:35 |
| MinceR | it wouldn't | Mar 25 20:35 |
| MinceR | tivoization needs to die for this too | Mar 25 20:36 |
| satipera | That is what worried me | Mar 25 20:36 |
| satipera | They need to keep the licences waterproof or someone will always take advantage | Mar 25 20:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | like Access? | Mar 25 20:37 |
| MinceR | or human thinking needs to change | Mar 25 20:37 |
| satipera | Access? | Mar 25 20:37 |
| MinceR | so that someday we can switch to anarchy | Mar 25 20:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Limo, Lefty | Mar 25 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | I was joking with a mechanic I was talking to about the back bumper on my car. "Ford doesn't put bumpers on their cars, they use 'crunchers', cause that's all you hear, then you get out and say 'God damn! I was only going 2 mph and I backed up into a whiffle bat and the back half of my car is gone!" | Mar 25 20:40 |
| MinceR | what TLDs offer privacy protection like that of .ca? | Mar 25 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: .su | Mar 25 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 25 20:41 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 25 20:41 |
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| MinceR | tivoization would probably be killed by sufficient competition from non-tivoized alternatives, if such existed | Mar 25 20:42 |
| Ender2070 | mincer - theres plenty of media center stuff for linux | Mar 25 20:44 |
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| MinceR | how much of it is out-of-the-box? | Mar 25 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | My mom is asking for my former stepdad's truck in the lawsuit, lol | Mar 25 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | said she'd give it to me | Mar 25 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to have an air horn installed | Mar 25 20:44 |
| Ender2070 | theres some out of the box distros | Mar 25 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | drive by his house every day honking that | Mar 25 20:45 |
| MinceR | distros yes, but hardware+software? | Mar 25 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | big 5.7 liter V8, terrible gas mileage | Mar 25 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | it's free | Mar 25 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Mar 25 20:45 |
| Ender2070 | mincer - yes | Mar 25 20:45 |
| MinceR | or hardware that officially supports at least one of those distros | Mar 25 20:45 |
| Ender2070 | http://www.dlink.com/boxeebox | Mar 25 20:46 |
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| MinceR | then my current solution to tivoization would be to buy one of these instead of a tivo :> | Mar 25 20:46 |
| MinceR | (or, being a geek, building my own) | Mar 25 20:47 |
| Ender2070 | i think it records | Mar 25 20:47 |
| Ender2070 | its based on xbmc | Mar 25 20:47 |
| satipera | If you get a chance watch bbc4 the secret life of chaos, watching now | Mar 25 20:47 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Sitting inside 5th Avenue Apple Store. Wondering what's so cool about it, not even the big iPays are on display. | Mar 25 21:39 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Using their free wifi, with my #olpc I feel like the coolest guy in store. Think Different? :) | Mar 25 21:39 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Using Apple Store 5th Av's free wifi, with my #olpc I feel like the coolest guy in store. Think Different? :) | Mar 25 21:40 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Just opened a port to let a Canonical dev poke a machine to help fix bug 445852 http://bit.ly/cL50Y9 Wonder how many people do this.. | Mar 25 21:40 | |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/alimbada/statuses/11047164476 | Mar 25 21:43 |
| schestowitz | Comparing me to RMS? | Mar 25 21:44 |
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| phIRCe-BNcom | Hello World! | Mar 25 21:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTVpzwcpCCM | Mar 25 21:50 |
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| schestowitz | Ra is brilliant! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdbRcxVYWSY | Mar 25 21:50 |
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| balrog_ | schestowitz: right now I'm doing classical mechanics, mathematical physics, and modern physics | Mar 25 21:51 |
| balrog_ | 11 credit hours of just physics | Mar 25 21:51 |
| schestowitz | It can be self taught, I think | Mar 25 21:52 |
| balrog_ | much of it can | Mar 25 21:52 |
| balrog_ | then again, a lot of this stuff is pretty crazy | Mar 25 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Recently I've watched almost 100 hours of biology videos | Mar 25 21:52 |
| balrog_ | definitely NOT what you're used to seeing, that I can say | Mar 25 21:52 |
| balrog_ | cool | Mar 25 21:52 |
| schestowitz | balrog_: my point is, ... | Mar 25 21:53 |
| balrog_ | well yea, it is possible | Mar 25 21:53 |
| schestowitz | Unless it's a seminar, you can't interact with a person | Mar 25 21:53 |
| balrog_ | or a lab | Mar 25 21:53 |
| schestowitz | So if you don't understand something, you're left reading books | Mar 25 21:53 |
| schestowitz | Labs are important, for sure | Mar 25 21:54 |
| balrog_ | reading books, or asking people | Mar 25 21:54 |
| balrog_ | fortunately the professors at my school are very helpful | Mar 25 21:54 |
| balrog_ | that can't be said about every one though | Mar 25 21:54 |
| schestowitz | RMS mailed me an hour ago out of the blue | Mar 25 21:54 |
| balrog_ | yea? | Mar 25 21:55 |
| schestowitz | We are not related to the FSF | Mar 25 21:55 |
| schestowitz | I sometimes wonder... | Mar 25 21:55 |
| balrog_ | well I am aware of that | Mar 25 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, it's good whenever they read out to BN | Mar 25 21:55 |
| schestowitz | They read us | Mar 25 21:55 |
| schestowitz | /read out/reach out/ | Mar 25 21:56 |
| balrog_ | I see | Mar 25 21:56 |
| balrog_ | there's a lot of flak going around about BN; it tends to be one of the more controversial sites | Mar 25 21:56 |
| balrog_ | for me, that's not the issue; rather, the sheer amount of content is | Mar 25 21:56 |
| schestowitz | yes, but controversy does not imply wrongness | Mar 25 21:59 |
| schestowitz | The Earth being 4.5 billion years old in controversial in some places | Mar 25 21:59 |
| balrog_ | that's true | Mar 25 21:59 |
| schestowitz | In Iran, Christianity would be controversial | Mar 25 21:59 |
| schestowitz | The ones I'm heckled by are exactly those whom I out to expect | Mar 25 21:59 |
| schestowitz | So I'm fine with that | Mar 25 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Hitchen says it well | Mar 25 21:59 |
| schestowitz | I hope you know him | Mar 25 22:00 |
| schestowitz | He says, if these people hated me, It would mean I fail | Mar 25 22:00 |
| schestowitz | He's basically what he called "Antitheist" | Mar 25 22:00 |
| schestowitz | He's most blunt when it comes to dismissing myths | Mar 25 22:00 |
| schestowitz | And he's attacked and threatened for it | Mar 25 22:00 |
| balrog_ | I see | Mar 25 22:01 |
| schestowitz | When he's invited to Fox it's just for them to try and spank him | Mar 25 22:01 |
| schestowitz | And edit out parts they don't like | Mar 25 22:01 |
| balrog_ | then again, people should be careful when dismissing things, because a lot of advances in science are missed because they're different from what people tend to expect | Mar 25 22:01 |
| schestowitz | Or corner him with Abramoff lobbyists and such types | Mar 25 22:01 |
| balrog_ | I saw a story about that on ars like a month ago | Mar 25 22:01 |
| schestowitz | balrog_: we were right on mono all along | Mar 25 22:01 |
| schestowitz | Since 2006 | Mar 25 22:02 |
| schestowitz | Among the first to talk about the issues | Mar 25 22:02 |
| schestowitz | balrog_: Ars covers science and Hitchens? | Mar 25 22:02 |
| balrog_ | they cover science | Mar 25 22:02 |
| schestowitz | Or something more general you refer to>? | Mar 25 22:02 |
| balrog_ | more general | Mar 25 22:02 |
| balrog_ | they do have reasonably good science coverage tho | Mar 25 22:02 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, well.. when I did my Ph.D. I started where a former student failed | Mar 25 22:02 |
| balrog_ | hah | Mar 25 22:03 |
| schestowitz | She quit the strand of work | Mar 25 22:03 |
| schestowitz | I took it from there and succeeded | Mar 25 22:03 |
| schestowitz | It's an analysis and image registration using statistical models | Mar 25 22:03 |
| schestowitz | It worked, eventually. | Mar 25 22:03 |
| balrog_ | ahh | Mar 25 22:03 |
| balrog_ | interesting | Mar 25 22:03 |
| schestowitz | Not many candidates here finish | Mar 25 22:03 |
| schestowitz | My supervisor saw many fail | Mar 25 22:03 |
| schestowitz | One committed suicide | Mar 25 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Just months after I had come here | Mar 25 22:04 |
| schestowitz | But anyway, I was like 1 in 6 (or 2 in 6) who finished | Mar 25 22:04 |
| balrog_ | wow | Mar 25 22:04 |
| balrog_ | I see | Mar 25 22:04 |
| schestowitz | The expectations are high because we re 5* rated | Mar 25 22:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Finally! We have a patch for one of the most critical bugs in Ubuntu yet! Stand down,take a break everyone! http://bit.ly/9mY62t | Mar 25 22:05 | |
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| balrog_ | ah | Mar 25 22:07 |
| schestowitz | It's not possible to criticise mono without being smeared | Mar 25 22:08 |
| schestowitz | I'm lucky cause there's nothing to smear me with | Mar 25 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Maybe cause I'm young | Mar 25 22:08 |
| schestowitz | And no work affiliations | Mar 25 22:08 |
| satipera | Roy it does not stop them trying | Mar 25 22:09 |
| balrog_ | people somewhere else were criticizing Java a lot | Mar 25 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Look what those monom trolls do to Allison, Varghese even Groklaw | Mar 25 22:09 |
| schestowitz | I think Groklaw is just afraid of denouncing mono | Mar 25 22:09 |
| satipera | you must have a thick skin | Mar 25 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Cause it the attacks it would entail against it would harm its name | Mar 25 22:09 |
| schestowitz | As they did before | Mar 25 22:10 |
| balrog_ | groklaw said some things about mono | Mar 25 22:10 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Mar 25 22:11 |
| schestowitz | One post | Mar 25 22:11 |
| schestowitz | Led to a mess | Mar 25 22:11 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/10/01/discrediting-groklaw/ | Mar 25 22:11 |
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| schestowitz | They also attacked Jason | Mar 25 22:12 |
| schestowitz | (The Source) | Mar 25 22:12 |
| schestowitz | The funny thing is, the Microsoft trolls who always attack Linux also attack Mono critics | Mar 25 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft folks LOVE Mono | Mar 25 22:12 |
| balrog_ | seen http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/03/25/1733229/Beware-the-King-of-the-Patent-Trolls?art_pos=8 ? | Mar 25 22:13 |
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| balrog_ | related to Nathan Myhrvold | Mar 25 22:13 |
| schestowitz | Yes, old by now | Mar 25 22:15 |
| balrog_ | ok | Mar 25 22:15 |
| schestowitz | Glyn seems to be submitting a lot to /, these days | Mar 25 22:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] On my way home...we've been staying with my parents whilst we had building work on. Back to normality! | Mar 25 22:15 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] RT tonywhitmore http://twitpic.com/1aw0yt - OggCamp flyer in latest Linux format #oggcamp | Mar 25 22:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Perhaps one way to determine whether the buttons are in a bad place in #ubuntu is with IOgrapica http://bit.ly/ddYUUh http://bit.ly/cSQscT | Mar 25 22:34 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] My email has no idea what is about to hit it... | Mar 25 22:34 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Chinese products may once have been better quality. This 30-yo(?) saucepan may actually be stainless steel. Today's #china "stainless" rusts | Mar 25 22:48 | |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | Mar 25 22:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Golly this Pentium III 800MHz 256MB HP e-pc is a bit slow like. Need to get rid of it really. Dont want to bin it. | Mar 25 22:58 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Converting Flash to HTML5 <canvas> http://github.com/blog/621-bye-bye-flash-network-graph-is-now-canvas | Mar 25 23:11 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Weather widget on my Android phone says "Camberly: Partly Sunny". At 23:00 that's optimistic at best. I can see a bright moon though. | Mar 25 23:12 | |
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| _goblin | im back.... | Mar 25 23:15 |
| _goblin | returned home... | Mar 25 23:15 |
| _goblin | building work has finished....Im quite pleased. I use the work "quite" because whilst away from the house the builders have a/ eaten everything of any nutritional value from our cupboards. b/ broken the hover and c/covered everything in a fine layer of dust | Mar 25 23:17 |
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| schestowitz | hey, _goblin | Mar 25 23:20 |
| schestowitz | We had some trolls here today | Mar 25 23:20 |
| schestowitz | First time in months | Mar 25 23:20 |
| Ender2070 | funny trolls too | Mar 25 23:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @chumbawumba_uk: @jonobacon At last Linux works well & looks sexy! Mac OS eat your heart out! Looking forward to Ubuntu Music Store! | Mar 25 23:20 | |
| Ender2070 | i told you that you'd jinxed it | Mar 25 23:20 |
| Ender2070 | they were also making fun of mono so i think they were the linsux bunch | Mar 25 23:21 |
| cubezzz | damn, I missed it | Mar 25 23:25 |
| oiaohm | Same here | Mar 25 23:27 |
| oiaohm | but strange for a linsux bunch they have not talked about it Ender2070 | Mar 25 23:27 |
| oiaohm | So I would guess someone else | Mar 25 23:27 |
| oiaohm | Or did they get there asses kicked? Ender2070 if so want log. | Mar 25 23:28 |
| _goblin | hi roy! | Mar 25 23:28 |
| _goblin | sorry to have missed the trolls | Mar 25 23:28 |
| _goblin | Is mad hatter here....(not a troll btw) | Mar 25 23:29 |
| _goblin | "ke all those Ubuntu users who download tons of software for free? No wonder the IIPA wants to get the US Trade Representative to take action against countries that use Free and Open Source Software." | Mar 25 23:29 |
| _goblin | why do people think the world starts and stops with the US? | Mar 25 23:29 |
| cubezzz | I don't :) | Mar 25 23:30 |
| MinceR | usians tend to believe that | Mar 25 23:30 |
| balrog_ | the IIPA is just shooting themseves in the foot | Mar 25 23:31 |
| oiaohm | Problem here MS loses dominates in the USA. They will lose one of the strangle holds. | Mar 25 23:31 |
| cubezzz | what is the IIPA? | Mar 25 23:31 |
| oiaohm | Ie lot of money for IIPA comes from MS. | Mar 25 23:31 |
| oiaohm | And other closed source companies. | Mar 25 23:31 |
| oiaohm | Big thing is open source is truly a patent destorier. | Mar 25 23:32 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Friday tomorrow, which means Fish, Chips and mushy peas for lunch with the team. Rocking! Mushy peas rock that is, not the team. | Mar 25 23:33 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Patent Thug (Microsoft) Enters “Solution Linux”; Durham Logistics Unmasked as Potential Intellectual Ventures Proxy http://ur1.ca/rs20 | Mar 25 23:35 | |
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| _goblin | Im not sure Cubezzz. | Mar 25 23:36 |
| _goblin | but its certainly not of consequence to the UK, | Mar 25 23:36 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Andrew Sullivan's hypothesis on why the Catholic Church is so aggressively homophobic http://bit.ly/dd1DNM HT @cam_rogers | Mar 25 23:36 | |
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| cubezzz | "International Intellectual Property Alliance" | Mar 25 23:36 |
| cubezzz | of the United States (of course) | Mar 25 23:37 |
| cubezzz | nor to me | Mar 25 23:37 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Laura Czajkowski is awesome. That is all. :-) #ubuntu | Mar 25 23:37 | |
| cubezzz | rather disappointed day, tried to find a sparc machine or a RISC desktop and no luck | Mar 25 23:38 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: these attacking MS for being at a Linux event is only really destracts away from what the event was about. | Mar 25 23:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Oh dear, I appear to be giggling like a schoolgirl at the trailers for the new Doctor Who. It's the wine, honest. | Mar 25 23:43 | |
| oiaohm | If you really wanted to harm MS over patents and the like you have to attack the events they run. | Mar 25 23:43 |
| schestowitz | "60% of Web-servers now run Linux." http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/bl-associates-archived-data-managerr-to-run-on-linux-and-oracler-89025872.html | Mar 25 23:45 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: better to report them to the autoroties | Mar 25 23:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @JustMeAmber: Nah. I bet doctors told facebook to much Bacon wasn't good for them! So they cut back :-) | Mar 25 23:46 | |
| schestowitz | But they have them on their side, influenced or gently bribed | Mar 25 23:46 |
| schestowitz | Racketeering is illegal | Mar 25 23:46 |
| schestowitz | But the authorities can't see if for what it really us | Mar 25 23:46 |
| schestowitz | *is | Mar 25 23:46 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: over patents you want to turn thier own supporters against them. | Mar 25 23:48 |
| oiaohm | Same with over charging. | Mar 25 23:48 |
| oiaohm | Same with getting authorities on side. | Mar 25 23:48 |
| oiaohm | Basically if you want effect you must attack them at their own events. | Mar 25 23:48 |
| oiaohm | Where their followers will be. | Mar 25 23:48 |
| MinceR | gn | Mar 25 23:49 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Ponies! | Mar 25 23:50 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] The Vatican newspaper said the claims were an "ignoble" smear attempt. http://is.gd/aZnLI | Mar 25 23:51 | |
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| oiaohm | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/03/us-may-give-countries-the-drug-war-treatment-on-cybercrime.ars Anyone else see this being abused. | Mar 25 23:53 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/digital-cameras/277135/man-takes-photos-from-space-using-500-digital-camera-kit | Mar 25 23:59 |
| schestowitz | Linux | Mar 25 23:59 |
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