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IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: March 31st, 2010

-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] over & outMar 31 00:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ARM Meets #Linux and Makes Symbiotic Relationship http://ur1.ca/sjlj http://ur1.ca/sjlk http://ur1.ca/sjll http://ur1.ca/sjlmMar 31 00:01
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Google extends ARM to browser natives • The Register .::. Size~: 23.3 KBMar 31 00:01
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: ARM Helps Bridge the Gap between Consumer Products and Automotive Infotainment - MarketWatch .::. Size~: 72.24 KBMar 31 00:01
phIRCe-BNcomTitle:   Netbooks Decline or ARMs Ascent? at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 24.02 KBMar 31 00:01
phIRCe-BNcomTitle:   Scaling Arm Chips at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 25.86 KBMar 31 00:01
NZhereticOnce the IBM/SCO and Redhat/SCO cases are settled, it would be a good time to call for global antitrust action against Microsoft ...Mar 31 00:04
NZheretichttp://itheresies.blogspot.com/2004_03_01_archive.htmlMar 31 00:04
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: IT Heresies: 03/01/2004 - 04/01/2004 .::. Size~: 51.39 KBMar 31 00:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Many More #Linux Phones, Including #BPhone http://ur1.ca/sjm6 http://ur1.ca/sjm7 http://ur1.ca/sjm8Mar 31 00:05
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: ST-Ericsson uses Linux | - Suaju Lean Management .::. Size~: 13.72 KBMar 31 00:05
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: bphone flipscreen smartphone runs linux, java on [technabob] .::. Size~: 43.6 KBMar 31 00:05
NZhereticRemove the unfair OEM licensing  system entirely.Mar 31 00:05
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: BPhone Quad Band Linux Smartphone | Geeky Gadgets .::. Size~: 26.6 KBMar 31 00:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Palm Pre Spreads Some More and Gets Newer #Linux http://ur1.ca/sjma http://ur1.ca/sjmbMar 31 00:06
NZhereticForce Microsoft to sell only retail and enterprise licenses for it's OS and Applications. Mar 31 00:06
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: The Technology Chronicles  : Palm Pre Plus and Pixi Plus are officially coming to AT&T .::. Size~: 54.15 KBMar 31 00:06
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Palm Pre 800MHz Linux kernels unveiled .::. Size~: 29.55 KBMar 31 00:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FastBoot Linux on #Asus Eee and #Lenovo Sub-notebooks http://ur1.ca/sjmz http://ur1.ca/sjn0 http://ur1.ca/sjn1Mar 31 00:12
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Asus Eee PC 1201T review - Techworld.com .::. Size~: 110.37 KBMar 31 00:12
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Lenovo Skylight smartbook hands-on impressions | Netbook Choice .::. Size~: 38.33 KBMar 31 00:12
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Lenovo Slylight Ultra-light Notebook Breaks Cover .::. Size~: 20.68 KBMar 31 00:12
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IBM Brings #GNU #Linux to #Africa http://ur1.ca/sjna http://ur1.ca/sjnb http://ur1.ca/sjnc http://ur1.ca/sjndMar 31 00:15
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: IBM, Canonical to sell Ubuntu-ready netbooks in Africa - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 62.64 KBMar 31 00:15
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: IBM Cloud Services Included on Sub-$200 Netbook | Maximum PC .::. Size~: 45.14 KBMar 31 00:15
phIRCe-BNcomTitle:   IBM Partners To Offer $190 Cloud-Connected Netbook For Emerging Markets - ReadWriteEnterprise .::. Size~: 50.31 KBMar 31 00:15
phIRCe-BNcomTitle:   IBM, Simmtronics to offer $190 Linux netbooks .::. Size~: 28.25 KBMar 31 00:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Not eyeing up Windows 7 anymore" after trying #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux 10.04 http://education.zdnet.com/?p=3760Mar 31 00:17
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Get ready to supercharge those netbooks with Ubuntu 10.04 | Education IT | ZDNet.com .::. Size~: 139.1 KBMar 31 00:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Loads of New #Tablets Run Only #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/sjnn http://ur1.ca/sjno http://ur1.ca/sjnpMar 31 00:18
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: JooJoo Ships Tablet PC -- Tablet PC -- InformationWeek .::. Size~: 94.39 KBMar 31 00:18
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Italian tablet PC runs Ubuntu Linux - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 60.03 KBMar 31 00:19
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Will $99 Moby tablet swim or sink? | eSchoolNews.com .::. Size~: 51.7 KBMar 31 00:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nokia 's #Linux #Phones Reviewed and Explained http://ur1.ca/sjns http://ur1.ca/sjnt http://ur1.ca/sjnuMar 31 00:20
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: 'Symbian and MeeGo are quite separate' | News | TechRadar UK .::. Size~: 67.62 KBMar 31 00:20
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Nokia N900 Review .::. Size~: 91.62 KBMar 31 00:20
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Maemo 5 SDK Update 5 Now Available - With Qt 4.6.2 included in the package - Softpedia .::. Size~: 46.75 KBMar 31 00:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Intel Makes #Linux Apps Store http://ur1.ca/sjnx http://ur1.ca/sjny http://ur1.ca/sjnzMar 31 00:22
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Intel's AppUp gets Moblin Netbook apps | Business Tech - CNET News .::. Size~: 92.79 KBMar 31 00:22
phIRCe-BNcomTitle:                     Intel appup tips up - The Inquirer          .::. Size~: 55.81 KBMar 31 00:22
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Intel creates Linux version of its app store for netbooks | VentureBeat .::. Size~: 25.82 KBMar 31 00:22
schestowitzNZheretic: let me see that articleMar 31 00:28
schestowitzNZheretic: s/settled/trashed/Mar 31 00:28
NZhereticschestowitz : Given the hopeless position that SCO Group is in, a settlement is more likely.Mar 31 00:33
NZheretichttp://lwn.net/Comments/36053/Mar 31 00:34
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: The Trillian Project : Proof of SCO's actions [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 26.43 KBMar 31 00:34
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schestowitzAh...Mar 31 00:38
NZheretic"Kid, I've been at this since before you were in diapers" http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=66874&cid=6142744Mar 31 00:43
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Slashdot Comments | SCO Shows 80 Lines of Evidence? .::. Size~: 59.17 KBMar 31 00:43
NZheretic... Or it just feels like I have.Mar 31 00:44
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schestowitzNZheretic: wowMar 31 00:58
schestowitzOld articleMar 31 00:58
schestowitzFor a moment there I thought it was newsMar 31 00:58
schestowitzhttp://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/03/sco-loses-again-jury-says-novell-owns-unix-svrx-copyrights.arsMar 31 00:58
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: SCO loses again: jury says Novell owns UNIX SVRX copyrights .::. Size~: 28.51 KBMar 31 00:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Hooray [News] posted again in COLA. Thank you @schestowitz ;-)Mar 31 01:10
Diablo-D3schestowitz: you know whats bad?Mar 31 01:11
Diablo-D3I have to actually side with Novell on somethingMar 31 01:11
schestowitzThat's OKMar 31 01:12
schestowitzIt's not all good vs badMar 31 01:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst ah, it's dedicated to you todayMar 31 01:13
Eruaran_This might be better than the last one: http://picasaweb.google.com.au/farrance.jeremy/Techrights#5454579968903447122Mar 31 01:16
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Picasa Web Albums: free photo sharing from Google .::. Size~: 17.24 KBMar 31 01:16
Eruaran_I thought the one with the green tick was easier to readMar 31 01:17
Eruaran_So I followed the same kind of thing capitalizing RightsMar 31 01:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] To anyone who cares about truth, I heartily recommend skeptoid @ http://skeptoid.com/episode_guide.phpMar 31 01:19
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Skeptoid Episode Guide .::. Size~: 91.9 KBMar 31 01:19
schestowitzEruaran_: the second one?Mar 31 01:20
Eruaran_yesMar 31 01:20
Eruaran_I think its clearerMar 31 01:21
schestowitzI can't get the oroiginalsMar 31 01:22
schestowitzNot the PNGsMar 31 01:22
Eruaran_I can give u the pngMar 31 01:22
schestowitzthanksMar 31 01:23
Eruaran_but it looks the sameMar 31 01:23
Eruaran_:PMar 31 01:23
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schestowitzhttp://www.ittia.com/news/press/2010/mar/benchmarkMar 31 01:24
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: New Benchmark Comparison of ITTIA DB SQL and SQLite | ITTIA .::. Size~: 17.16 KBMar 31 01:24
schestowitz"Bellevue, WA"Mar 31 01:24
schestowitzAny relation to former MSFT employees?Mar 31 01:24
schestowitzEruaran_: ah, the wire is part of the design, thenMar 31 01:24
schestowitzI thought it was a grid for illustrative purrposesMar 31 01:24
Eruaran_it helps to line up thingsMar 31 01:28
Eruaran_so it doesnt look wonkyMar 31 01:28
schestowitzHmmm...Mar 31 01:34
schestowitzOur ranking jumped to 2500th on the WebMar 31 01:34
schestowitzThat's cool, but we once peaked at 1900thMar 31 01:34
schestowitzPhoronix is around 4000Mar 31 01:34
schestowitzEruaran_: I liked the older one betterMar 31 01:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Just bought Carnifex's 'Hell Chose Me' from the Ubuntu One Music Store, a few clicks and in my media player - perfect! #ubuntuMar 31 01:35
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schestowitzI put the newer one in another pageMar 31 01:36
schestowitzSo it's being usedMar 31 01:37
Eruaran_they're just ideasMar 31 01:37
Eruaran_I didn't expect to see it being used straight away :PMar 31 01:38
schestowitzI really appreciate what you did.... haven't had a chance to say thank-youMar 31 01:38
schestowitzI saw it when I woke up and it was a fine match, so I went ahead and put it thereMar 31 01:38
Eruaran_OkMar 31 01:38
Eruaran_no problemMar 31 01:38
schestowitzhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/PHP-blunders-with-random-numbers-967525.htmlMar 31 01:41
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: PHP blunders with random numbers - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 35.24 KBMar 31 01:41
Eruaran_I thought the original was getting a bit groklawish :PMar 31 01:46
schestowitzEruaran_: I guess I should change thenMar 31 01:48
schestowitzIf you don't work on that second one, I'll swapMar 31 01:48
schestowitzThe red also makes theme mismatchMar 31 01:49
schestowitzEruaran_: are you still working on something?Mar 31 01:52
schestowitzIf not, then let me know. I can't make changes until/unless you don't, eitherMar 31 01:53
schestowitzhttp://www.france24.com/en/20100327-marine-stand-trial-haditha-killings-24-iraq-civilians-us-army-jones-wuterichMar 31 01:55
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: France24 - US marine to stand trial for Haditha killings .::. Size~: 106.4 KBMar 31 01:55
schestowitzgnMar 31 02:06
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NZheretichttp://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/03/hacker-vows-to-fight-sony-ps3-update-restore-linux-support.arsMar 31 02:15
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Hacker vows to fight Sony PS3 update, restore Linux support .::. Size~: 27.96 KBMar 31 02:15
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@Mathewh co's shdn't sell consumer food products if any of pkg is not recyclable // they'll just redefine "recyclable" #lobbying #loopholeMar 31 02:30
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@scottEweinberg So yeah. Tonight might be the night I tackle NEW MOON. Has to be done eventually. // it does? why?Mar 31 02:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@KatrinaNation #Moscow metro bombs [close] to 10th anniv of #Putin coming 2 power //gosh! if only suicide bombers could talk! #war #russiaMar 31 02:41
Eruaran_schestowitz: yes, I'll rework the original oneMar 31 02:49
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Schedule for my live videocast tomorrow is up at http://is.gd/b7uag #ubuntu #communityMar 31 03:27
phIRCe-BNcomTitle:                   At Home With Jono Bacon Videocast: 31st March Schedule | jonobacon@home                     .::. Size~: 26.7 KBMar 31 03:27
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[tracyrreed] Just left #marchmingle. Throat hurts from talking. So loud!Mar 31 03:45
Jose_Xin case this was missed: http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2010/03/italian-court-oks-preference-for-open.htmlMar 31 03:46
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: open...: Italian Court OKs Preference for Open Source .::. Size~: 99.14 KBMar 31 03:46
Jose_X>>Mar 31 03:46
Jose_XThe Court points out: "It is not understandable how the the choice of a Public institution with regard to a feature, and not a product ... can be deemed as a breach of antitrust law”. Furthermore, the Court clarifies that “The concepts of Free Software and software whose code can be inspected do not refer to a particular technology, brand or product, but they rather express a legal feature".Mar 31 03:46
Jose_X<<Mar 31 03:46
Jose_Xschestowitz et al, gn.Mar 31 03:47
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Harper Tories' self-interested, "faith-based" foreign aid caprices ignore or imperil the most needy http://bit.ly/cPmjhP #Canada #ngoMar 31 04:21
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: The sad truth about Harper and maternal health - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 97.32 KBMar 31 04:21
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Agent-SmithGEMar 31 05:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Just added a rocking new Python snippet that demonstrates sockets and threading and how to put together a simple server - http://is.gd/b7BCtMar 31 05:33
phIRCe-BNcomTitle:  The Acire Snippets Project .::. Size~: 13.01 KBMar 31 05:33
Agent-SmithFolks, are you sleeping yet ???Mar 31 05:35
Agent-SmithWell, got to goMar 31 05:38
Agent-SmithGood night to allMar 31 05:38
Agent-SmithByeMar 31 05:38
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cubezzzI suppose everyone heard SCO lost again?Mar 31 06:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[tracyrreed] I had a frozen breakfast burrito/wrap sort of thing this morning: http://bit.ly/acnCfNMar 31 06:13
Ziomatrixcubezzz: its a one horse and pony showMar 31 06:14
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] The sandra bullock trade: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/30/opinion/30brooks.html /via @rsukumarMar 31 06:17
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Op-Ed Columnist - The Sandra Bullock Trade - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 53.06 KBMar 31 06:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] I am loving Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx http://bit.ly/d49ZW0 #wdiaMar 31 06:42
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: why do it alone? .::. Size~: 3.31 KBMar 31 06:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Click on http://bit.ly/d49ZW0 and let's make Ubuntu trend this thing! #ubuntuMar 31 06:44
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: why do it alone? .::. Size~: 3.31 KBMar 31 06:44
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Waiting on a very cold train platform.... :(Mar 31 07:23
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] 13 small things that simplify your work: http://ping.fm/JhB7O /via @sankarshanMar 31 07:37
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: 13 small things to simplify your workday | Zen Habits .::. Size~: 13.19 KBMar 31 07:38
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] LibDems find spine. We'll see what happens, but so far ... HOORAY! http://is.gd/b7MTR #debillMar 31 08:24
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Liberal Democrats say Digital Economy bill should wait for next government |Technology |guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 76.78 KBMar 31 08:24
schestowitz1950s army propaganda...  http://www.archive.org/details/men_of_the_world_TNAMar 31 08:26
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Internet Archive: Free Download: Men of the world .::. Size~: 19.12 KBMar 31 08:26
Aondoreminds me of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-rWnQphPdQMar 31 08:51
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: YouTube- LSD Testing (British Troops) .::. Size~: 117.7 KBMar 31 08:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @ fourchanarchive /r9k/- 7860208 - Science Done As A Child http://dlvr.it/NbXx -- WARNING NSFW ADS!Mar 31 08:57
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: 4chanarchive - /r9k/ - Science Done As A Child .::. Size~: 225.06 KBMar 31 08:57
schestowitzMicrosoft shill on the full-time payroll has this to say: http://twitter.com/armchairdude/status/11354355424Mar 31 09:13
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Twitter / Jonathan Wong: Roughly Drafted Magazine i ... .::. Size~: 10.34 KBMar 31 09:13
schestowitzShould I take this as a compliment?Mar 31 09:13
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MinceRj0Mar 31 09:27
MinceRhttp://failblog.org/2010/03/30/epic-fail-photos-shut-down-fail/Mar 31 09:27
phIRCe-BNcomTitle:   Shut Down Fail - FAIL Blog: Epic Fail Pictures and Videos of Owned, Pwnd and Fail Moments .::. Size~: 325.52 KBMar 31 09:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Why I'm rejecting your email attachment #fsf #freedom http://www.fsf.org/news/why-im-rejecting-your-email-attachmentMar 31 09:30
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Why I'm rejecting your email attachment &mdash; Free Software Foundation .::. Size~: 29.82 KBMar 31 09:30
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tessierschestowitz: Looks like the nameservers for techrights.org are pointed at NS5.CATALYST2.NET and NS6.CATALYST2.NETMar 31 09:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] You may not be able to open your heart as wide as you wish tod... More for Aquarius http://twittascope.com/?sign=11Mar 31 09:56
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 301 Temporary Redirect .::. Size~: 0 KBMar 31 09:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Hacker to Avenge Sony's Closed-source Mentality http://ur1.ca/sljb http://ur1.ca/sljc http://ur1.ca/sljdMar 31 10:01
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: PS3 Hacker Geohot on Lost Linux Support: Im Sorry .::. Size~: 33.39 KBMar 31 10:01
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: iPhone Hacker: I'll Hack to Keep Linux on PS3 .::. Size~: 98.5 KBMar 31 10:01
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Geohot Looks To Enable Other OS Support For The PS3 3.21 Firmware .::. Size~: 31.02 KBMar 31 10:01
schestowitztessier: ah, I'll let them knowMar 31 10:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Call to End Microsoft's Illegal OEM Grip on Desktops http://ur1.ca/sljn DIY: http://ur1.ca/sljoMar 31 10:03
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: IT Heresies: 03/01/2004 - 04/01/2004 .::. Size~: 51.39 KBMar 31 10:03
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: An Easy and Inexpensive Quad-Core System for Debian or Ubuntu GNU/Linux  .::. Size~: 54.94 KBMar 31 10:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Release of #KDE SC and #GNOME Journal http://ur1.ca/sljp http://ur1.ca/sljq http://ur1.ca/sljrMar 31 10:05
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: KDE SC 4.4.2 arrives with various bug fixes - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 35.05 KBMar 31 10:05
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: KDE - KDE Software Compilation 4.4.2 Release Announcement .::. Size~: 14.53 KBMar 31 10:05
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: The GNOME Journal: Letter from the Editor .::. Size~: 6.29 KBMar 31 10:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #PCLinuxOS 2010 in Review, #Mandriva in "Cloud Alliance" http://ur1.ca/slkg http://ur1.ca/slkh http://ur1.ca/slkiMar 31 10:10
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: PCLinuxOS 2010 KDE 4.4.1 Beta 2 .::. Size~: 105.97 KBMar 31 10:10
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: WhiteSpiral - Planning a move to PCLinuxOS 2010 .::. Size~: 37.86 KBMar 31 10:10
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Newswire - PR / Free Cloud Alliance Formed - Open Source IaaS, PaaS and SaaS for the Enterprise - Software - TioLive, LLC | NewswireToday .::. Size~: 38.02 KBMar 31 10:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Expands Desktop #Virtualisation , #DeviceVM Guy Joins Linux Foundation http://ur1.ca/slkv http://ur1.ca/slkxMar 31 10:11
phIRCe-BNcomTitle:  Red Hat expands to desktop virtualization .::. Size~: 118.12 KBMar 31 10:11
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: DeviceVM Co-Founder and CEO Mark Lee Elected to Board of Directors of the Linux Foundation - MarketWatch .::. Size~: 64.54 KBMar 31 10:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Debian -based #SimplyMEPIS 8.5 is Released http://www.mepis.org/node/14362 #mepisMar 31 10:13
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: SimplyMEPIS 8.5 Goes Gold | MEPIS .::. Size~: 15.26 KBMar 31 10:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Telstra Chooses #Linux http://ur1.ca/slleMar 31 10:15
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Android operating system to power a smarter Telstra phone |  The Australian .::. Size~: 48.59 KBMar 31 10:15
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MurlocSup People!Mar 31 10:22
schestowitzhttp://skeptoid.com/audio/skeptoid-4174.mp3Mar 31 10:29
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schestowitzIs it true that reading in the dark being bad is just a myth?Mar 31 10:30
schestowitzHey, MurlocMar 31 10:30
MurlocI've released my application :D Been featured in Lifehacker ^^Mar 31 10:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Fight facial recognition software with dazzle makeup http://tinyurl.com/yl6khas can't wait for laws against makeup http://is.gd/b7VpCMar 31 10:30
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phIRCe-BNcomHello World!Mar 31 10:30
schestowitzI think I saw thatMar 31 10:31
schestowitzIs it the Windows-only installer for FOSS stuff?Mar 31 10:31
MurlocyeahMar 31 10:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Sleep ogg-pogg still rolling runaway down hill. Woke up at 4am. Intravenous crack not helping. Send braaaaaaanes.Mar 31 10:32
Murlocwell not all stuff is open sourceMar 31 10:32
Murlocbut it's freeMar 31 10:32
MurlocWe said open source and free software. We didn't said all software was open sourced.Mar 31 10:33
schestowitzYesMar 31 10:33
schestowitzThat's why I didn't link to oitMar 31 10:33
schestowitzSome was Windows-only IIRCMar 31 10:33
MurlocCurrently we have in plan building the Linux version and Mac one.Mar 31 10:34
MurlocAlthough i don't really feel that Linux version is needed.Mar 31 10:34
MurlocAnd after those versions, we have in plan to build Portable Virtual system on the USB with Qemu.Mar 31 10:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Murdoch's Sky told to cut wholesale prices by regulator Ofcom http://is.gd/b7W1mMar 31 10:38
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Unable to type in remington keyboard - Please help us, Please help us #foss http://post.ly/WjXvMar 31 10:46
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] "a computer program is not a patentable invention." Kiwis see reason: http://bit.ly/cpUqr1 #nz #softwareMar 31 10:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More Sub-notebooks and #Tablets Based on #GNU #Linux on Their Way http://ur1.ca/sluv http://ur1.ca/sluwMar 31 10:58
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phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Jolicloud 0.9 Robby Pre-Final Brings the 'Cloud' Closer - Getting ready for a final release - Softpedia .::. Size~: 51.72 KBMar 31 10:58
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phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Photoshop's CAF (content-aware fill) - unbelievable? Not quite. - the real Uqbar .::. Size~: 13.25 KBMar 31 11:01
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Ekoore releases 10" !Linux running tablet, around $650 http://ur1.ca/sluwMar 31 11:02
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Ekoore releases 10in slate PC to compete with iPad | Expert Reviews .::. Size~: 47.68 KBMar 31 11:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@nikkistarmakeup And... whatever happens... everybody who uses a computer needs #backup. Set up #TimeMachine on #osx - it's very simple.Mar 31 11:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #WordPress Founder Defend People in #Free Software http://mashable.com/2010/03/24/wordpress-founder-open-source/Mar 31 11:09
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: WordPress Founder: Open Source Is About People, Not Technology .::. Size~: 90.64 KBMar 31 11:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Just discovered BleachBit what a fantastic programme for my 8GB netbook.Mar 31 11:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Want coffee. Trying to avoid it. Love sugar and milk in it though :(Mar 31 11:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Well this cheered me up today. http://www.google.com/finance?q=OTC:SCOXQMar 31 11:19
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: The SCO Group, Inc. - Google Finance .::. Size~: 49.81 KBMar 31 11:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] how I can have a bulk M$ office files to OpenOffice files conversion #dfd2010 #odfMar 31 11:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] 'SCO will ask U.S. District Judge Ted Stewart to award the copyrights to SCO "even if we didn't have them before,"' lolzMar 31 11:21
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Chances of Healthcare Done with #FreeSoftware Improve http://ur1.ca/sm73 http://ur1.ca/sm77Mar 31 11:33
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phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Here's How Much Money Your Hospital Could Get For Computerizing Records - Shots - Health News Blog : NPR .::. Size~: 40.51 KBMar 31 11:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Asia Shows More Signs of #FreeSoftware Adoption http://ur1.ca/sm7u http://ur1.ca/sm7vMar 31 11:36
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: A fresh way to conduct meetings .::. Size~: 39.78 KBMar 31 11:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Yay! Got a decaf coffee with skimmed milk and no sugar. See how this goes :SMar 31 11:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@woodsy_bristol Willu be able to open ur M$ Office dox in 20yrs? Probably not //MAYBE-if u pay BIG$ to #microsoft til then,but NO guaranteeMar 31 11:46
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Jose_Xhey, schestowitz, just wanted to mention something you likely know (but just in case): http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100330/0331488784.shtmlMar 31 11:47
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: More On The Gene Patent Ruling: What Happens Next | Techdirt .::. Size~: 42.75 KBMar 31 11:47
NZhereticSay it loud and say it proud:"The Patent Troll Business Model is Subprime"Mar 31 11:48
NZhereticThe 2000-2010 "Intellectual Property" boom is about to go the way of the "Subprime" Mortgage, Dot-Com vapor startup, Junk bond and Dutch Tulip futures. The Patent Troll Business Model is inherently flawed, and just like the aforementioned others, add nothing to a nations REAL economy.Mar 31 11:48
NZheretichttp://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/03/31/0450201/NZ-Draft-Bill-Rules-Out-Software-PatentsMar 31 11:50
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] New Zealand trying to exclude software patents, not an easy task, confused by the embedded software trick: http://i5.be/aF6Mar 31 12:04
schestowitzGreat episode: http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4167Mar 31 12:06
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Should Science Debate Pseudoscience? .::. Size~: 32.61 KBMar 31 12:06
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] The truth about the Catholic Church http://ur1.ca/smdsMar 31 12:07
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Capture screen and mic input using FFmpeg and ALSA http://post.ly/Wk6tMar 31 12:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@katyushina #NYT OpEd: ThisTimeWeReallyMeanIt ~~ Friedman occasionally nails it //who needs him. even a stopped clock is right twice a dayMar 31 12:11
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NZhereticschestowitz: Lets put it another way,  "Do debates against Microsoft Astroturfers advance the cause of open source/free software, or do they do more harm than good?". The only way to undo the effects of FUD is to shine a light on the lies and the truth. You have to debate, if you want the truth to without there is no choice.Mar 31 12:12
NZhereticAnti-FUD = Facts, URLs ( linked evidence ) and Debate. Mar 31 12:15
Diablo-D3Anti-FUD = a 1911 .45 ACP.Mar 31 12:15
NZhereticDiablo-D3: Guns don't end arguments, people do.Mar 31 12:16
Diablo-D3Damn straight.Mar 31 12:17
satiperaNZheretic the NRA would be proud of youMar 31 12:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@psustentavel bom diaMar 31 12:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeBSD 7.3 Updated http://ur1.ca/smfi also on #bsd : http://ur1.ca/smfjMar 31 12:20
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MinceRactually people can end arguments using guns, too :>Mar 31 12:22
NZhereticMinceR : A death does not insure a defeat, only provides a delay.Mar 31 12:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Salon's Patrick Smith: reporting ignores that the #Moscow metro bombs are just latest in well defined campaign http://bit.ly/bOChhx #warMar 31 12:27
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Our collective memory loss - Air Travel - Salon.com .::. Size~: 132.27 KBMar 31 12:27
schestowitztessier: "I have updated that now, please allow 24 hours for the dns change to propagate across all systems."Mar 31 12:35
MinceRi'm not talking about a defeat, i'm talking about cessation of argument. :>Mar 31 12:36
NZhereticMinceR : And how many do you have to kill before the argument stops? Mar 31 12:38
MinceRdepends on how many are arguingMar 31 12:39
NZhereticMinceR : you have just lost the argument. Mar 31 12:40
satiperaHas someone shot mincer? :)Mar 31 12:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] wow GIMP animations - http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Advanced_Animations/ #gimp #imagesMar 31 12:41
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MinceRsatipera: someone seems to think so.Mar 31 12:43
NZhereticIt's 00:31 here, best to leave early undefeated.Mar 31 12:44
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MinceRsomeone also seems to be obsessed with "winning" pointless "arguments"Mar 31 12:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Thank you to Linux for USB serial drivers built in, and thank you to minicom for saving my arse just now.Mar 31 13:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] LUG@IITD support ODF see main page http://lug-iitd.org/Main_Page (Thanks @FOSSmaniac ) #dfd #dfd2010Mar 31 13:21
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Main Page - LUG@IITD .::. Size~: 24.29 KBMar 31 13:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] US Pres w/unprecedented power to issue nation-wide blackout/restriction on websites without congressional approval, oversight, explanation.Mar 31 13:37
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oiaohmhttp://encodedpr.com/?p=258  Interesting little artical from a reactos developer I know.Mar 31 13:53
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Am I connected now? - Life on an Island .::. Size~: 21.73 KBMar 31 13:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@AlanColmes Sarah #Palin Tells Tea Partiers To Stop Drivers With #Obama Bumper Stickers http://bit.ly/aJ02cJ #p2 // say whut?? #brownshirtsMar 31 13:55
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Sarah Palin Tells Tea Partiers To Stop Drivers With Obama Bumper Stickers «  Alan Colmes' Liberaland .::. Size~: 30.93 KBMar 31 13:55
*MinceR is unimpressedMar 31 13:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] BBC Adopts #DRM and Block Free(dom) Software Despite DRM's Failure in the Market http://ur1.ca/sn3wMar 31 14:34
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Slashdot News Story | BBC Activates DRM For Its iPlayer Content .::. Size~: 164.88 KBMar 31 14:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] [Problem Solved] unable to type in remington keyboard http://post.ly/Wm5dMar 31 14:48
phIRCe-BNcomTitle:         [Problem Solved] unable to type in remington keyboard - LUG@IITD Community Blog     .::. Size~: 29.46 KBMar 31 14:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jneves: momento WTF do dia: Plano Técnológico da Educação enviou para escolas computadores às centenas c/ Vista. não se liga a um domínioMar 31 14:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] RT @Ebuyerdotcom Last weeks 'What's your favourite operating system?' poll has now finished. See the results here http://bit.ly/9buSME :o)Mar 31 14:54
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Whats your favourite operating system? | Ebuyer HQ .::. Size~: 67.9 KBMar 31 14:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Oh-my-God. I've installed Windows XP Pro SP3 on my old Dell Optiplex GX240 yesterday. I should have known better.Mar 31 14:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] The piece of junk requires more maintenance than it provides productivity. I wonder why I could have made such a dumb decision. :-(Mar 31 14:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] And Oh, Windows XP didn't solve the problem I expected it to solve. Great Software (NOT)!Mar 31 14:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Several Defeats for Bad Types of Patents, #Apple Risks Embargo, and #Microsoft Lobbies Europe Intensely http://ur1.ca/sn8oMar 31 15:08
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Patents Roundup: Several Defeats for Bad Types of Patents, Apple Risks Embargo, and Microsoft Lobbies Europe Intensely | Techrights .::. Size~: 113.25 KBMar 31 15:08
schestowitz[13:55] <phIRCe-BNcom> Title: Sarah Palin Tells Tea Partiers To Stop Drivers With Obama Bumper Stickers «  Alan Colmes' Liberaland .::. Size~: 30.93 KBMar 31 15:08
schestowitzTitle: Obama Tells Tea Partiers To Send Drivers With Bumper Stickers to Sarah Palin «  Alan Colmes' Liberaland .::. Size~: 30.93 KBMar 31 15:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] I clearly bought a malfunctioning Sitecom USB 2.0 PCI adapter. Linux usually recognizes something like that without a glitch.Mar 31 15:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Unfortunately the adapter was not recognized and (how stupid of me), I hoped WinXP would solve the problem. Dumbass that I am :-(Mar 31 15:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Policeman struck a woman twice once with a batton said he thought she was carrying a weapon (carton of orange) has been let off in courtMar 31 15:15
schestowitzWTF? http://in.sys-con.com/node/1334533Mar 31 15:21
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Following Is a Test Release | SYS-CON INDIA .::. Size~: 61.23 KBMar 31 15:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] New Blog Post "Join Us at OggCamp 10" http://bit.ly/buNcP9Mar 31 15:50
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Join Us at OggCamp 10! | popey.com blog .::. Size~: 29.4 KBMar 31 15:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Zo, ik heb eindelijk de sprong gewaagd. Heb me net geabonneerd op @linuxmagNL. Ben een trouwe lezer sinds #2 van jaargang 1.Mar 31 15:54
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Pixar's The Terminator http://ur1.ca/snfwMar 31 15:57
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oiaohmHmm took me a bit of digging. Elan Microelectronics is a direct supplier to HTC.  Now this is good.  Apple attack HTC so now HTC suppliers lining up to eat them for lunch.Mar 31 16:02
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jerezim: #ACTA people!Please help commenting/highlighting the key points of the 20100118 leak on http://ur1.ca/si30Mar 31 16:10
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schestowitzhttp://www.tradingmarkets.com/news/stock-alert/ibm_novl_jury-says-novell-owns-unix-copyrights-sco-vows-to-press-ahead-with-ibm-lawsuit--881998.htmlMar 31 16:11
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Jury says Novell owns Unix copyrights: SCO vows to press ahead with IBM lawsuit.  | TradingMarkets.com  .::. Size~: 33.86 KBMar 31 16:11
schestowitzHow can they?Mar 31 16:11
schestowitzhttp://www.forbes.com/2010/03/03/novell-software-takeover-markets-equities-ibm.htmlMar 31 16:13
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Chum In The Water Around Novell - Forbes.com .::. Size~: 31.3 KBMar 31 16:13
schestowitz"Shares of Novell were in high demand Wednesday as investors sensed a potential bidding war for the software maker."Mar 31 16:13
schestowitzCould Novell be bought?Mar 31 16:13
schestowitzBy IBM?Mar 31 16:13
schestowitzhttp://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=32578Mar 31 16:14
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Why doesn't IBM just buy Novell already? | Between the Lines | ZDNet.com .::. Size~: 117.24 KBMar 31 16:14
satiperaI have just been reminded that OS map data goes public tomorrowMar 31 16:20
schestowitzMicrosoft paid shill in CNET:Mar 31 16:23
schestowitz" Mr. Dee "Mar 31 16:23
schestowitzDa CostaMar 31 16:23
schestowitzNow trollijng GoogleMar 31 16:23
schestowitzhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-20001440-265.htmlMar 31 16:23
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Travel, security costs plunge for Google's Schmidt | Relevant Results - CNET News .::. Size~: 98.76 KBMar 31 16:23
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Mozilla fixes css history leak: http://blog.mozilla.com/security/2010/03/31/plugging-the-css-history-leak/ #privacyMar 31 16:32
phIRCe-BNcomTitle:   Plugging the CSS History Leak  at  Mozilla Security Blog .::. Size~: 17.65 KBMar 31 16:32
schestowitzWhoaMar 31 16:33
schestowitzhttp://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2011483078_msftnovell31.html http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/200109.aspMar 31 16:33
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Business & Technology | Novell lawsuit against Microsoft dismissed | Seattle Times Newspaper .::. Size~: 59.12 KBMar 31 16:33
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Court drops last Novell antitrust claims against Microsoft .::. Size~: 63.73 KBMar 31 16:33
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/Mar 31 16:54
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schestowitzDNS works from here nowMar 31 16:55
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Omar87Oh my God people! You would never believe what just happened to me!Mar 31 17:02
Omar87I found hicham by coincidence at #sabayonMar 31 17:03
schestowitzNot a big coincidenceMar 31 17:04
schestowitzAsk him why he doesn't come hereMar 31 17:04
Omar87schestowitz, he said you misbehaved with him. Why is that?Mar 31 17:04
schestowitzIIRC, he made some tasteless joke about de Icaza, which had us denounce itMar 31 17:04
schestowitzOmar87: I didn'tMar 31 17:04
Omar87schestowitz, tasteless?Mar 31 17:04
schestowitzSomeone told him something that offended himMar 31 17:04
schestowitzOmar87: yes, I don't want to repeat things he said as jokesMar 31 17:05
schestowitzIt was feeding quote minersMar 31 17:05
Omar87schestowitz, I see.Mar 31 17:05
schestowitzBut anyway, invite him over, we'll sort it outMar 31 17:05
schestowitzJust a misunderstanding reallyMar 31 17:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Court Pardons #Microsoft for #Antitrust Violations http://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/31/novell-wordperfect-loss/Mar 31 17:41
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Court Pardons Microsoft for Antitrust Violations | Techrights .::. Size~: 193.58 KBMar 31 17:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Analysis of the response to #Mono criticism and the abuse directed against those who dissent against Mono http://ur1.ca/so0uMar 31 18:13
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: The Conspiracy of Mono | Techrights .::. Size~: 104.68 KBMar 31 18:13
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sabayonuserHi all.Mar 31 18:16
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sabayonuserMaybe that's nothing new, but I just learned that Mono is in Gnome itself, not in Ubuntu.Mar 31 18:18
sabayonuserEven Sabayon is infected.. ><Mar 31 18:18
cubezzzbut I use _old_ Gnome :)Mar 31 18:19
cubezzzand also old KDEMar 31 18:19
cubezzzso no, it's not :)Mar 31 18:19
sabayonusercubezzz: OR! the new Gnome, but without the Mono virusware. ;)Mar 31 18:19
cubezzzyou can recompile, or remove stuff yeahMar 31 18:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[aondo] Thank you #Adobe for showing me this new feature you are getting, that's already free in #gimp with resynthesize, learn something each day!Mar 31 18:20
cubezzzthat's one of the best things about FOSSMar 31 18:22
cubezzzyou can modify everythingMar 31 18:22
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cubezzzbut again, old KDE is necessary for older hardware so...Mar 31 18:22
cubezzzI still use it sometimesMar 31 18:22
TheBarronNovell wins for open source :p Mar 31 18:22
sabayonusercubezzz, the claims some people say that C# is "essential for making quality software" is pure nonsense.Mar 31 18:25
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cubezzzit isMar 31 18:26
cubezzzC is essentialMar 31 18:26
cubezzzif you don't care about speed or not critical, then a script language is OKMar 31 18:27
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cubezzzbut if I recall correctly C# is a MIcrosoft creationMar 31 18:27
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cubezzzsabayonuser, did you know Microsoft didn't originally use their own C compiler?Mar 31 18:28
cubezzzthey first used the C compiler from LatticeMar 31 18:28
sabayonusercubezzz, No, C# is only essential for exploiting GNU/Linux and imposing the M$ propaganda.Mar 31 18:29
sabayonuserAnd did you know Microsoft don't even sell their own software? :PMar 31 18:30
cubezzzuhMar 31 18:30
cubezzzwell, it is closedMar 31 18:31
cubezzzand bloatedMar 31 18:32
cubezzzthat's enough reasons for me not to use itMar 31 18:32
sabayonusercubezzz, 99.99% of their software is either bought (e.g., MS SQL server) or stolen (MS-DOS/Windows)Mar 31 18:32
cubezzzpeople are still copying ms dos? :)Mar 31 18:32
sabayonusercubezzz, no. They barely even remember it existed.Mar 31 18:33
*cubezzz remembersMar 31 18:33
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cubezzzthe thing is, I wrote a fair bit of msdos softwareMar 31 18:34
cubezzznow, I'm porting it all to Linux but it takes a whileMar 31 18:34
cubezzzso I still use stuff like dosbox fairly oftenMar 31 18:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Hey everyone, how are things today?Mar 31 18:35
Omar87cubezzz, DOS itself is good. MS-Dos is the stolen one, actually. Mar 31 18:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] I will doing my weekly Ubuntu/community videocast in 30mins! See http://is.gd/b7uag for what I will discuss #ubuntuMar 31 18:38
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_goblinhello allMar 31 18:48
_goblinTechRights? Like it...Mar 31 18:48
Omar87_goblin, hi!Mar 31 18:51
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Omar87_goblin: So, now, basically, you have to say goodbye HBK?Mar 31 18:52
Omar87That's it for him?Mar 31 18:52
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] LOL too funny - Another Problem Caused By Deforestation - http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/375632.htmlMar 31 18:58
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_goblinanyone seen Pacific yet?Mar 31 19:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] About to do my live Ubuntu/community videocast - watch live at http://is.gd/b8yXl #ubuntuMar 31 19:08
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Consequences of #UNIX up for Sale http://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/31/outcome-of-the-sco-case/ #novell #scoMar 31 19:13
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schestowitzNot good: http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/30/flash-player-to-come-bundled-with-google-chrome-new-browser-plugin-api-coming/Mar 31 19:25
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schestowitzIs Google not replacing Flash in  YouTube, Finance, etc?Mar 31 19:25
schestowitzC'mon, GoogleMar 31 19:25
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schestowitzMicrosoft booster Clarke is at it again with junk statementsMar 31 19:25
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/30/microsoft_google_us_privacy_law/Mar 31 19:25
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schestowitzhttp://www.osor.eu/news/ch-school-it-agency-recommends-switching-to-open-sourceMar 31 19:26
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schestowitzEnder2070: I still have your mono audioMar 31 19:26
schestowitzHow's that coming along?Mar 31 19:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Kroes and patents "A patent is 13 times more expensive in the EU than in the US. How does that help you as entrepreneurs?" http://i5.be/aGdMar 31 19:27
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] This morning my #olpc xo 1 with #fedora 11 ran out of battery while on. now it doesn't even charge. Help!Mar 31 19:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @bigbrovar: ♻ @SirajSoft'>@SirajSoft</a>: HOT NEWS :: Meego now available for Download for Nokia #N900Mar 31 19:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] I wonder if it's a free software phone now, or still a proprietary os ...Mar 31 19:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] ODF adoption #odf #dfd2010 http://www.odfalliance.org/resources/Adoptions-ODF-2010-Feb.pdfMar 31 19:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] I doupt the hardware got any friendlier towards free software but it sure would be nice if it did .Mar 31 19:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @zoobab Kroes and patents "A patent is 13 times more expensive in the EU [...] How does that help you as entrepreneurs?" http://i5.be/aGdMar 31 19:35
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schestowitzhttp://www.tomshardware.com/news/crunchpad-JooJoo-Preorders-iPad-HP-Slate,10037.htmlMar 31 19:42
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Ender2070_schestowitz - have to redo itMar 31 20:02
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schestowitzI'm changing site's name... Mar 31 20:15
schestowitzFrom "Exploring the reality behind technology news, with emphasis on Novell and Microsoft"Mar 31 20:15
schestowitzTo "Watching and reporting our adversaries maneuvers"Mar 31 20:22
schestowitzOr should that be Mar 31 20:22
schestowitz> I think that the site name should set the spirit of what you're doing,Mar 31 20:22
schestowitz> as much as feasible given the constraints of what will fit in a usableMar 31 20:22
schestowitz> name.Mar 31 20:22
schestowitzWhile discussing this we brought up "watcher", "watch", and "monitor". We were close to settling on those, but then we shifted to something broader, by choice. The site's daily links cover issues of ethics (similar to the ones listed in Stallman.org), so some readers suggested a very broad scope with more focused goals that are subsets (like abolishing software patents). We had registered a new domain before we got a chance to hear Mar 31 20:22
schestowitzfrom you.Mar 31 20:22
schestowitz> Terms like "sentry", "radar", "watchtower", "early warning" occur toMar 31 20:22
schestowitz> me to describe the function of what you do.  For what you do it for,Mar 31 20:22
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schestowitz> we could focus either on those defended or on the attackers.  WordsMar 31 20:22
schestowitz> that occur to me include "free software", "GNU/Linux", "free world",Mar 31 20:22
schestowitz> "freedom", "tech user".Mar 31 20:22
schestowitz> Mar 31 20:22
schestowitz> Combinations I like include "free software sentry" and "GNU/LinuxMar 31 20:22
schestowitz> Watchtower".Mar 31 20:22
schestowitz> Mar 31 20:22
schestowitz> Some political or religious group had, or has, a newspaper called theMar 31 20:22
schestowitz> Watchtower.  I don't recall who.  If it was a right-wing politicalMar 31 20:22
schestowitz> group and if it has been forgotten for long enough, the comparisonMar 31 20:22
schestowitz> might be useful.  Otherwise it could be a reason to avoid "watchtower".Mar 31 20:22
schestowitz> Mar 31 20:22
schestowitz> So I am led to this:Mar 31 20:22
schestowitz> Mar 31 20:22
schestowitz>                 Free Software SentryMar 31 20:22
schestowitz>   Watching and reporting our adversaries maneuversMar 31 20:22
schestowitzI have just changed the site's tagline to that. It will appear at the top of all 10,000+ pages. Mar 31 20:22
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schestowitzadversaries' maneuvers with an apostrophe maybe?Mar 31 20:24
MinceRindeedMar 31 20:25
MinceRi think "maneuvers of our adversaries" is even betterMar 31 20:25
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schestowitzyeahMar 31 20:29
schestowitzLet me change that, thanksMar 31 20:29
MinceRnpMar 31 20:31
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Omar87I must admit, Sabayon is just awesome!Mar 31 20:32
cubezzzwatchtower is just a general term but the Jehovah's Witnesses have a magazine called thatMar 31 20:36
*MinceR prefers guard towers (more firepower :> )Mar 31 20:37
cubezzz"Join your local Kick Microsoft's Ass club today!"Mar 31 20:38
cubezzzthe mighty KMA clubMar 31 20:38
MinceR:DMar 31 20:39
MinceRthat would need renaming once m$ dies if some other similar criminal organization (e.g. crApple) remainsMar 31 20:39
satiperaAdversaries makes it sound confrontational, where as  you are going for reasoned investigationMar 31 20:40
cubezzzthere are adversariesMar 31 20:40
satiperaThat is as maybe but you do not want to be looked upon as a warring faction with an axe to grindMar 31 20:41
cubezzzthat's true Mar 31 20:42
schestowitzhttp://twit.tv/specials14Mar 31 20:43
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cubezzznot a fan of twit.tvMar 31 20:43
schestowitzhttp://www.sutor.com/c/2010/03/daily-links-for-03302010/Mar 31 20:45
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schestowitzWhy is IBM kissing Novell's behind?Mar 31 20:45
schestowitzWatch the imageMar 31 20:45
cubezzzuhMar 31 20:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Microsoft's adopted Ubuntu OpenOffice.org. An April Fool virus Deleted all copied of Windows and its code from whole planet. try reboot.Mar 31 20:48
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schestowitzhttp://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/easy_and_inexpensive_quad_core_system_debian_or_ubuntu_gnu_linux_0Mar 31 20:53
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schestowitzhttp://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=1120Mar 31 20:53
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schestowitzcubezzz: maybe IBM will buy NovellMar 31 20:53
schestowitzhttp://www.the-source.com/2010/03/on-comments/Mar 31 20:55
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cubezzzin a lot of ways IBM is very significantMar 31 20:56
cubezzzthey went with Intel in 1981Mar 31 20:57
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cubezzzit's funny how a number of very early computers used APLMar 31 20:58
cubezzzno one uses APL nowMar 31 21:02
schestowitzYou're like a sage, aren't you? :-pMar 31 21:05
schestowitzhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/OpenSSL-1-0-0-arrives-966919.html http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu/2010-03/msg00030.htmlMar 31 21:09
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cubezzzI just was thinking of what other processors were available in 1981Mar 31 21:10
cubezzzof course, there was 6502 and z80Mar 31 21:10
schestowitzGroklaw @ over 1700 comments. http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100330152829622Mar 31 21:11
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schestowitzI wonder what post-SCO Groklaw would look likeMar 31 21:11
schestowitzWell, at least the FSF likes us tooMar 31 21:11
schestowitzRMS mailed me like 20 times this weekMar 31 21:11
cubezzzwowMar 31 21:11
schestowitzWe're totally independent, but there are commonalitiesMar 31 21:12
cubezzzobviously he's interestedMar 31 21:12
schestowitzGroklaw upset me when it defended APpleMar 31 21:12
schestowitzit still defends Apple sometimesMar 31 21:12
schestowitzYou know, PJ had a MacMar 31 21:12
schestowitzAFAICTMar 31 21:12
cubezzzah well... there you go :)Mar 31 21:12
cubezzzI would defend Commodore if there still was one :)Mar 31 21:13
schestowitzI sent her well over 1000 E-mails and saw Mac in her mail headers sometimesMar 31 21:13
schestowitzcubezzz: you still have Commodore?Mar 31 21:13
cubezzzalthough I bet even Stallman would have to admit the c64 was a pretty open machineMar 31 21:13
schestowitzMemorabiliaMar 31 21:13
schestowitzYou should speak to goblin about itMar 31 21:13
cubezzzschestowitz, i have the dealer kits stillMar 31 21:13
schestowitzHe was a big fan, still isMar 31 21:13
cubezzzall the press releases tooMar 31 21:14
schestowitzcubezzz: what did RMS use?Mar 31 21:14
cubezzzPDP-11 I thinkMar 31 21:14
schestowitzI don't know quite... I think Moglen spoke about mainframe he coded forMar 31 21:14
cubezzzand olderMar 31 21:14
cubezzzI think RMS uses Lemote nowMar 31 21:14
schestowitz'Non-Domestic' machineMar 31 21:14
schestowitzBad for RMS...Mar 31 21:14
schestowitzUnlike BillG he didn't 'steal' computer timeMar 31 21:14
cubezzzschestowitz, I am looking for some machines stillMar 31 21:15
schestowitzBillG sabotaged expensive machines to buy more time with themMar 31 21:15
schestowitzIt's a documented factMar 31 21:15
cubezzzyes, it's in wikipedia tooMar 31 21:15
schestowitzMicrosoft would spin it as mischievousMar 31 21:15
schestowitzI call it vandalismMar 31 21:15
schestowitzHe used it at the expense of othersMar 31 21:16
schestowitzBillG stomps on many peopleMar 31 21:16
cubezzza life long pattern I'd say :)Mar 31 21:16
schestowitzHis goal of world domination justifies all meansMar 31 21:16
cubezzzI'm looking for an Amiga 4000 or maybe a 3000Mar 31 21:16
cubezzzand a Sparc Mar 31 21:16
schestowitz"Microsoft and its employees now think it is indeed the Master of the Universe." Stewart Alsop, FortuneMar 31 21:16
schestowitzIt's possible, you can never know, that the universe exists only for me. If so, it's going quite well I must admit." --BillGMar 31 21:16
schestowitz^"Mar 31 21:17
cubezzzyeah Narcissism is badMar 31 21:18
cubezzzthe c64 was a machine you could learn 100%Mar 31 21:18
cubezzznot true of current machinesMar 31 21:18
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cubezzzit was elegant...Mar 31 21:21
cubezzznow we don't have programmers we have "weavers"Mar 31 21:21
schestowitzhttp://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2010/03/italian-court-oks-preference-for-open.htmlMar 31 21:30
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: open...: Italian Court OKs Preference for Open Source .::. Size~: 105 KBMar 31 21:30
schestowitzcubezzz: define thatMar 31 21:31
cubezzzokMar 31 21:31
cubezzzbefore when we wrote code in assembly language we were truly programming the machine Mar 31 21:31
cubezzzyou had to understand what the chips did to do itMar 31 21:31
schestowitzOh, and see http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Paw-Prints-Writings-of-the-maddog/Document-Freedom-Day-March-31st-2010Mar 31 21:32
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Document Freedom Day - March 31st, 2010 - Linux Magazine Online  .::. Size~: 31.48 KBMar 31 21:32
schestowitzIt's new, from a real coderMar 31 21:32
cubezzznow there are so many levels of abstraction and libs no one can possibly understand it so they are weavingMar 31 21:32
schestowitzYeah, Weave tooMar 31 21:32
schestowitzAnd all sort of Flash 'developers'Mar 31 21:32
cubezzzyou could count clock cycles and say "it will be this fast"Mar 31 21:33
schestowitzhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/KDE-SC-4-4-2-arrives-with-various-bug-fixes-967443.htmlMar 31 21:33
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: KDE SC 4.4.2 arrives with various bug fixes - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 35.03 KBMar 31 21:33
cubezzzbasically I understood my c64 much better than this computer I use nowMar 31 21:34
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cubezzzand windows... windows basically destroyed the hobbyist programmerMar 31 21:34
cubezzzno one programmed just for funMar 31 21:34
cubezzzand the idea that this new computer is a c64.... is a bad jokeMar 31 21:35
schestowitzhttp://anitaborg.org/initiatives/systers/pass-it-on-grants-program/Mar 31 21:35
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cubezzzwindows 7 is just about as far away as you can get from the design of the original c64 OSMar 31 21:36
schestowitzWaybe is back to blogging.. http://www.fsckin.com/2010/03/30/the-gplv3-in-plain-english-the-parts-microsoft-worries-about/Mar 31 21:36
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: The GPLv3 in Plain English  The Parts Microsoft Worries About | fsckin w/ linux .::. Size~: 25.79 KBMar 31 21:36
schestowitzI used to chat with him back in the days....Mar 31 21:36
schestowitzHe's funnyMar 31 21:36
cubezzzthey made it superificially look like a c64... that's itMar 31 21:37
schestowitz /Waybe/Wayne/Mar 31 21:37
cubezzzsuperficiallyMar 31 21:37
schestowitzcubezzz: c64 enthusiasts probably outgrew the culture by nowMar 31 21:37
schestowitzThe Large Hadron Collider switches on. If it's the end of the world, it will be powered by GNU/LinuxMar 31 21:37
cubezzzthat is true to a large extentMar 31 21:37
schestowitzI can't help thinking it would be BIZARRE is they used WindowsMar 31 21:38
schestowitzIt just shows how fast FS came aroundMar 31 21:38
schestowitzScientists choose it without thinking twiceMar 31 21:38
schestowitzKDEMar 31 21:38
cubezzzscientists like to understand things...Mar 31 21:38
schestowitzThey make informed choicesMar 31 21:39
schestowitzThey don't just go to Dell.com and buy whatever the cabal tells themMar 31 21:39
schestowitz"Dell recommends {what Microsoft PAID them to put here}"Mar 31 21:39
cubezzzhaMar 31 21:39
schestowitzI have an idea for a joke to run at misnightMar 31 21:40
schestowitzApr 1stMar 31 21:40
cubezzzStallman recommends....Mar 31 21:41
cubezzzno that would be too evil :)Mar 31 21:41
cubezzzBrain Dead Zombies recommend Windows 7Mar 31 21:42
schestowitzhttp://blogs.gartner.com/brian_prentice/2010/03/31/open-core-the-emperors-new-clothes/Mar 31 21:42
schestowitz"Wow. I’ve been saying for years that open source is not a marketing term. As someone who has run a successful pure open source services company for years, these new “fauxpen source” players not only are no different from traditional software vendors, they muddy the market for the services we provide."Mar 31 21:42
phIRCe-BNcomTitle:   Open-Core: The Emperors New Clothes .::. Size~: 48.66 KBMar 31 21:42
cubezzzit's the best OS for brain dead zombiesMar 31 21:42
schestowitzOr just zombies PCsMar 31 21:43
schestowitz*bie PCsMar 31 21:43
cubezzzoh and I quite agree with Mad DogMar 31 21:43
cubezzzthe thing is, with the c64 you could keep a c64 system working definitelyMar 31 21:44
cubezzzthere's a huge number of systems and partsMar 31 21:44
schestowitzhttp://www.figuiere.net/hub/blog/?2010/03/28/708-more-treesMar 31 21:44
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cubezzzthere's more c64's than Amigas probablyMar 31 21:44
schestowitzcubezzz: there's still debugging wiggling room in LinuxMar 31 21:44
schestowitzDoes Windows have strace and dtrace equivs?Mar 31 21:45
schestowitzIt just says bugs occurMar 31 21:45
schestowitz"Send|Don't Send report"Mar 31 21:45
cubezzzyeah if you have all the debugging toolsMar 31 21:45
schestowitzThe "Experts" will take a look at the codeMar 31 21:45
schestowitzIf one million or more people click "Report", they might look at itMar 31 21:45
cubezzzyou don't get the debugging tools with the OS obviouslyMar 31 21:46
cubezzzthat's the way it was with everything before... thoughMar 31 21:46
cubezzzAmiga's didn't come with debugging toolsMar 31 21:46
cubezzzc64's didn'tMar 31 21:46
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] ..and then it's time I disappear.. disappear.. -_-Mar 31 21:47
cubezzzschestowitz, the longest lasting software is printoutsMar 31 21:47
cubezzzmy oldest code is from 1981Mar 31 21:47
cubezzzI printed everythingMar 31 21:48
cubezzzI could still type it back in and run it on a commodore PET or similar comptuerMar 31 21:48
cubezzzI never found a good way to OCR dot matrix printoutsMar 31 21:49
cubezzzanyways, books should be ascii textMar 31 21:51
cubezzzand Linux is a textual systemMar 31 21:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Playing Sinclair Spectrum games whilst waiting for a fine (and lengthy) episode of @uupc to be released featuring the wonderful @webminkMar 31 21:51
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cubezzzthe binary isn't as usefulMar 31 21:52
cubezzzheh, Mad Dog goes "What do I connect the tape drive to?"Mar 31 21:52
cubezzzyeah when the hardware dies you are screwedMar 31 21:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] FINALLY: The Difference between Nerd, Dork, and Geek Explained by a Venn Diagram http://ur1.ca/sp0jMar 31 21:54
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cubezzzI always felt Nerd was degoratoryMar 31 21:57
cubezzzer, derogatory :)Mar 31 21:57
MinceRi don't think it isMar 31 21:57
cubezzzand remember knurd is drunk spelled backwards :)Mar 31 21:59
schestowitzhttp://www.blogicalthoughts.com/?p=1933 "I am still checking out the Ubuntu 10.04 beta distro. I absolutely will not put up with windows buttons on the left, so I will have to change the theme to one where the buttons are on the right. Only a brain-dead idiot would put them where they are right now."Mar 31 22:00
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schestowitz[21:54] <cubezzz> yeah when the hardware dies you are screwedMar 31 22:01
schestowitzSOme produce old stuffMar 31 22:02
schestowitzVery expensive thoughMar 31 22:02
schestowitzLike old floppy readers, gramophones, tapesMar 31 22:02
schestowitzEven VCRs are hard to find nowMar 31 22:02
schestowitzhttp://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/stephen-conroy-and-us-at-odds-on-net-filter/story-e6frg996-1225846614780Mar 31 22:14
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Stephen Conroy and US at odds on net filter |  The Australian .::. Size~: 67.41 KBMar 31 22:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Yay! @uupc S03E04 is out http://bit.ly/95s831 In which we talk to @webmink about BBC DRM, DEB and ACTAMar 31 22:15
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schestowitzhttp://www.linux.com/community/blogs/buttons-on-the-left-users-on-the-right.htmlMar 31 22:26
schestowitz"Maybe putting buttons on the left was a good design idea and was truly beneficial. However, if such change is unnecessary in the eyes of the user, such modifications may backfire. And sometimes more than you expect. I mean, it's only window buttons, after all!"Mar 31 22:26
ThistleWindI saw the logo ideasMar 31 22:28
ThistleWindthe olde worlde style font one was totally unreadableMar 31 22:28
ThistleWindto me anywayMar 31 22:28
ThistleWindeven when I knew what it said I couldn't see itMar 31 22:29
MinceRit's also misshapenMar 31 22:29
ThistleWindthat type of font has to be done right, better spaced etcMar 31 22:29
ThistleWindall publications which have that style logo were created at a time when script was in much more common useMar 31 22:30
ThistleWindso it was more natural and got adopted easilyMar 31 22:30
ThistleWindpeeps can read it only because they've had many yrs of recognising a shapeMar 31 22:31
ThistleWindfor s modern genre like IT which is always moving and evolving, a logo that suggests 1st half of 1900 is kinda offMar 31 22:32
ThistleWindjust my 2 cents worthMar 31 22:32
cubezzzgramophones?Mar 31 22:41
cubezzzwho makes gramophones?Mar 31 22:41
schestowitzIs this MSFT-sponsored? http://www.beyondtrust.com/downloads/whitepapers/Microsoft_Vulnerability_Analysis_2009.aspMar 31 22:43
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: BeyondTrust 2009 Microsoft Vulnerability Analysis .::. Size~: 17.04 KBMar 31 22:43
cubezzzcheck with pwn2own :)Mar 31 22:43
cubezzzasp....Mar 31 22:44
cubezzzlooks like a microsoft server Mar 31 22:44
cubezzzwow, there's cylinder models for saleMar 31 22:44
cubezzzthat's hardcoreMar 31 22:44
cubezzzhttp://www.worldofgramophones.com/cylindermachines.htmlMar 31 22:45
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Cylinder Machines .::. Size~: 19.17 KBMar 31 22:45
schestowitzAhaMar 31 22:46
schestowitzhttp://www.beyondtrust.com/company/management.aspMar 31 22:46
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: BeyondTrust Management Team - BeyondTrust Corporate Team - BeyondTrust Executive Bios .::. Size~: 15.2 KBMar 31 22:46
schestowitz"Prior to HNC Software, Mr. Mutch spent seven years at Microsoft Corporation in a variety of executive sales and marketing positions. "Mar 31 22:46
schestowitzThat's the CEO!Mar 31 22:46
cubezzzthat figuresMar 31 22:46
cubezzzit's got Microsoft stench all over itMar 31 22:46
MinceRBeyondTrust Lies Blind Zealotry? :>Mar 31 22:48
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/26742054#notice-26764081Mar 31 22:50
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 7.79 KBMar 31 22:50
schestowitz"@schestowitz question is, where does someone who makes a Venn diagram to explain the distinctions fall in the diagram?"Mar 31 22:50
schestowitzthat would require a /new/ diagramMar 31 22:50
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oiaohmhttp://www.osnews.com/story/23088/64_of_MS_Vulnerabilities_Mitigated_by_Removing_Admin_Rights  schestowitz This is a point I have been saying over and over again.  Linux is not safer because its just a smaller marketMar 31 23:09
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: 64% of MS Vulnerabilities Mitigated by Removing Admin Rights .::. Size~: 25.93 KBMar 31 23:09
cubezzzthat's bullMar 31 23:12
cubezzzI can't leave win2000 boxes on the net without big problemsMar 31 23:12
cubezzzmy fc1 box has been on the net since 2004Mar 31 23:13
schestowitzMr. OOo links to us, which is nice. http://ooo-speak.blogspot.com/2010/03/patents-roundup-several-defeats-for-bad.htmlMar 31 23:14
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBMar 31 23:14
schestowitzoiaohm: noMar 31 23:14
schestowitzIt's stats liesMar 31 23:14
schestowitzThey cherry-pick measuresMar 31 23:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @mparent77772 Aafia Siddiqui-Victimized by American Depravity http://bit.ly/9V1eSP her crime? being muslim in america "at the wrong time"Mar 31 23:14
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: SteveLendmanBlog: Aafia Siddiqui: Victimized by American Depravity .::. Size~: 24.74 KBMar 31 23:14
schestowitzTheir CEO is from McirosoftMar 31 23:14
schestowitzoiaohm: Vista 7 has the same old security problemsMar 31 23:15
schestowitzSo Microsoft needed some PRMar 31 23:15
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oiaohmcubezzz: 64% is not 100 percent protection.Mar 31 23:21
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cubezzz"  Linux is not safer because its just a smaller market"Mar 31 23:22
cubezzzsure it's safer :)Mar 31 23:23
cubezzzLinux is safer than DozeMar 31 23:23
oiaohmExactly that is a report on windows that shows its not just smaller market.Mar 31 23:24
oiaohm1 system change attack points drop by large numbers.Mar 31 23:24
sebsebseboiaohm: Something about Oracle trying to destroy OpenSolaris and Java nowMar 31 23:25
oiaohmOracle will not destoy java.Mar 31 23:25
oiaohmBasically they cannot.Mar 31 23:25
oiaohmOpenSolaris on the other hand.Mar 31 23:25
oiaohmSolaris in general.Mar 31 23:25
MinceRthey could do what ibm is said to be doingMar 31 23:26
oiaohmOracle is taking Solaris back to its closed source roots.Mar 31 23:26
MinceRand it would make senseMar 31 23:26
MinceR(retire their proprietary unix and move to gnu/linux)Mar 31 23:26
oiaohmOracle is kinda pinned.Mar 31 23:26
oiaohmIf Oracle just went to shut down Solaris they would be hated by Solaris users.Mar 31 23:27
schestowitzhttp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/sflc-podcast/Software-Freedom-Law-Show_0x24_Directors.oggMar 31 23:27
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cubezzzcouldn't someone just fork OpenSolaris?Mar 31 23:27
oiaohmNot that simple cubezzzMar 31 23:27
oiaohmThere are very few people out side sun that really know the Solaris kernel.Mar 31 23:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Without this man, we would never have had Goon Of Fortune. http://is.gd/b8RhnMar 31 23:27
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Wine cask inventor dead at 92 - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) .::. Size~: 32.99 KBMar 31 23:27
schestowitzBradley goes on about x-face and gnusMar 31 23:28
schestowitzsebsebseb: it's a Solaris issueMar 31 23:28
schestowitzOracle likes JavaMar 31 23:28
oiaohmNot Like Linux or BSD where people from over 100 companines could take lead if required with enough skill todo it.Mar 31 23:28
MinceRif they do what they're doing now they'll be hated by slowlaris users anywayMar 31 23:28
sebsebsebschestowitz: yeah someone was telling me else where, but I haven't read any links yetMar 31 23:28
schestowitzMinceR: They can make fastisMar 31 23:28
MinceRwhat?Mar 31 23:28
schestowitzRebrandingMar 31 23:28
schestowitzCall it Solaris7!Mar 31 23:28
oiaohmBut regulators will not kill them MinceRMar 31 23:28
MinceRlolMar 31 23:28
cubezzzI tried OpenSolaris, and yeah it was slow :)Mar 31 23:28
schestowitz"Show me the W0W!"Mar 31 23:29
cubezzzhahahaMar 31 23:29
MinceRschestowitz: "the wow starts now"Mar 31 23:29
schestowitzThe site is deadMar 31 23:29
schestowitzWith all the contribsMar 31 23:29
schestowitzMicrosoft trashed volunteers' work after about 1 years. So classyMar 31 23:29
MinceRtoo bad there already was a solaris7Mar 31 23:29
schestowitzYeahMar 31 23:29
MinceRit's no longer supportedMar 31 23:29
schestowitzFedora 7!Mar 31 23:29
schestowitz7!!Mar 31 23:29
MinceRlolMar 31 23:30
oiaohmThere is still tech in solaris we need to extract.Mar 31 23:30
MinceRubuntu 7!Mar 31 23:30
schestowitz7!!!!!!!!!11 *jumps* can'y help itMar 31 23:30
*schestowitz hits had on lampMar 31 23:30
MinceRoiaohm: _they_ need to extractMar 31 23:30
oiaohmAnd making better admin interfaces is still another issue.Mar 31 23:30
MinceRand if they go the gnu/linux route, they probably willMar 31 23:30
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MinceRor they'll make it possibleMar 31 23:30
oiaohmI follow the containers sections of the Linux kernel MinceRMar 31 23:30
MinceRit makes no sense for them to just sit on some tech and let it rotMar 31 23:30
oiaohmThere are still many things solaris zones can do  that Linux cannot yet.Mar 31 23:31
balrogI guess you heard about Solaris relicensingMar 31 23:31
balrogit's no longer gratisMar 31 23:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Pure Maple Syrup Contains Medicinally Beneficial Compounds http://sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100321182924.htm #canada #health #foodMar 31 23:31
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Pure maple syrup contains medicinally beneficial compounds, pharmacy researcher finds .::. Size~: 51.01 KBMar 31 23:31
oiaohmYep balrogMar 31 23:31
cubezzzI have my old discs :)Mar 31 23:31
balrogI have downloaded copiesMar 31 23:32
oiaohmOrcale holds the update servers.Mar 31 23:32
balrog(from when it was still gratis)Mar 31 23:32
balrogoiaohm: updates were never gratisMar 31 23:32
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sebsebseboiaohm: maybe I should have asked first really, but see my pm :)Mar 31 23:33
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/26768563 "Mar 31 23:40
phIRCe-BNcomTitle: Jeremy D Acord (jdac) 's status on Wednesday, 31-Mar-10 21:41:13 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 7.84 KBMar 31 23:40
schestowitzjdacMar 31 23:40
schestowitz@schestowitz so we need a... *consults diagram* ... Geek or Nerd to get this done for us. Know any?Mar 31 23:40
schestowitz"Mar 31 23:40
schestowitzHey, neighborlee. wbMar 31 23:41
neighborleethx ;)Mar 31 23:41
neighborleejust  been a bit busyMar 31 23:41
schestowitzok, npMar 31 23:41
neighborleeany news on mono front that I might have missed o_0Mar 31 23:45
neighborleeor etc. :)Mar 31 23:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @kitestring saw my #Myspace page. Haven't seen it since 2006..a time capsule of fun // one day ppl will talk about #Facebook like this :)Mar 31 23:49

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