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| schestowitz | My relatives are getting f*ed by BP | Jun 01 17:45 |
| schestowitz | "I hope that excessive amounts of floating oil have not quite affected Hallandale yet. It truly is a mess. I think it's time for more nuclear power, replacing warheads with energy that can drive people's cars, lights, computer, etc. The Big Oil lobby is probably too strong though, so resistance to such plan will be almost as big as the resistance from Big Insurance and the Military Industrial Complex." | Jun 01 17:45 |
| schestowitz | > Successful nuclear power plants were built as long ago as 1956 and it is a | Jun 01 17:45 |
| schestowitz | > disgrace that this country only has a limited number of nuclear power | Jun 01 17:45 |
| schestowitz | > producers. Partly, it is due to fears raised among the populous and the | Jun 01 17:45 |
| schestowitz | > typical citizen's response was 'not in my back-yard.' I think the oil | Jun 01 17:45 |
| schestowitz | > companies were anti-nuclear, and nuclear waste disposal was always an issue. | Jun 01 17:45 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 01 17:45 |
| schestowitz | > As far as the oil spill, devastation has not set in yet. By that I mean the | Jun 01 17:45 |
| schestowitz | > ocean currents have not brought the millions of gallons to the shore. For | Jun 01 17:45 |
| schestowitz | > now, there are huge amounts just floating below the surface and not deluging | Jun 01 17:45 |
| schestowitz | > the beaches yet. | Jun 01 17:45 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 01 17:45 |
| schestowitz | > In Louisiana, some of the oil has come ashore and is wreaking havoc on the | Jun 01 17:45 |
| schestowitz | > fishing industry, as all types of shellfish are found in the Gulf waters, | Jun 01 17:45 |
| schestowitz | > oysters, shrimp, lobster, crawfish, etc. But the worst of it is still out | Jun 01 17:45 |
| schestowitz | > there in the sea and everyone is waiting and praying it never comes ashore. | Jun 01 17:45 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 01 17:45 |
| schestowitz | > There is supposedly little or no chance that the east Florida coast will be | Jun 01 17:45 |
| schestowitz | > hit. | Jun 01 17:45 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/34195119#notice-34395294 "therefore if you don't like microsoft, don't use twitter or facebook" | Jun 01 17:53 |
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| MinceR | yay, this piece-of-shit ssh kioslave made DenyHosts ban my laptop from my server | Jun 02 06:38 |
| MinceR | if being as buggy and unusable as windows is what makes a system ready for the desktop then kde4.3 is ready for the desktop | Jun 02 06:39 |
| schestowitz | 4.4 | Jun 02 06:52 |
| schestowitz | Go for it | Jun 02 06:52 |
| schestowitz | And it's not a KDE issue | Jun 02 06:52 |
| schestowitz | Sounds like you got locked out cause of something lower down | Jun 02 06:53 |
| schestowitz | I once got locked out of my server too, had to contact host | Jun 02 06:53 |
| MinceR | it's not in karmic | Jun 02 06:57 |
| MinceR | and yes, flooding the sshd with connection attempts and flooding X with dialogs is definitely a KDE issue | Jun 02 06:57 |
| MinceR | a clueful ssh kioslave wouldn't try authenticating dozens of times at the same time | Jun 02 06:58 |
| MinceR | it would at least wait until i answer one of its password prompts instead of stress testing the X server | Jun 02 06:58 |
| MinceR | "hey, let's see if i can crash X by opening 237894234934 windows on it, because it's so fun" | Jun 02 06:59 |
| schestowitz | Wait... | Jun 02 07:01 |
| schestowitz | So you got passwords wrong | Jun 02 07:01 |
| MinceR | no i didn't | Jun 02 07:01 |
| schestowitz | Partly your fault | Jun 02 07:01 |
| schestowitz | KDE less tolerant | Jun 02 07:01 |
| MinceR | i got the password right, i could change directories a few times | Jun 02 07:01 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: ah, so never mind | Jun 02 07:01 |
| MinceR | then it went berserk | Jun 02 07:01 |
| schestowitz | Too many SCP connections? | Jun 02 07:02 |
| MinceR | and threw dozens of password prompts and error messages at me | Jun 02 07:02 |
| schestowitz | fish:// | Jun 02 07:02 |
| MinceR | too little clue in the programmer who hacked up the ssh kioslave | Jun 02 07:02 |
| schestowitz | patch it | Jun 02 07:02 |
| MinceR | it shouldn't have attempted to connect with the wrong password (since i never OK-d those windows) not even once, let alone dozens of times, which made DenyHosts ban this address | Jun 02 07:03 |
| MinceR | i'm going to patch it alright | Jun 02 07:03 |
| MinceR | first i'm going to give Enlightenment a try | Jun 02 07:03 |
| MinceR | with some sane file manager | Jun 02 07:03 |
| MinceR | and if it sucks, i'll go to metisse | Jun 02 07:03 |
| MinceR | and if that sucks, i'm going to give up on desktop compositing | Jun 02 07:03 |
| schestowitz | was it dolphin? | Jun 02 07:03 |
| schestowitz | Or konq? | Jun 02 07:03 |
| MinceR | as you can see i've pretty much given up on desktop environments | Jun 02 07:03 |
| schestowitz | I don't like dolphin so much | Jun 02 07:03 |
| MinceR | dolphin | Jun 02 07:03 |
| MinceR | they crippled konqueror | Jun 02 07:04 |
| MinceR | we had an OK konqueror in kde3, now we have a shitty konqueror and a shitty dolphin | Jun 02 07:04 |
| MinceR | how fun | Jun 02 07:04 |
| schestowitz | How is it worse? | Jun 02 07:05 |
| schestowitz | It remembers passwords better now (kwallet) | Jun 02 07:05 |
| MinceR | i don't remember, i switched from konqueror to dolphin a long time ago | Jun 02 07:07 |
| MinceR | i'm sure it didn't get the breadcrumb widget | Jun 02 07:07 |
| MinceR | (and dolphin didn't get the bookmarks sidebar, so you can't get the best of both worlds...) | Jun 02 07:07 |
| schestowitz | Both worlds? Krusader/Midnight comander | Jun 02 07:08 |
| schestowitz | *mma | Jun 02 07:09 |
| MinceR | being limited to two panels isn't always nice | Jun 02 07:09 |
| MinceR | also, krusader's layout is less convenient for me | Jun 02 07:10 |
| schestowitz | It's behind | Jun 02 07:10 |
| MinceR | (lines with details vs. roughly rectangular items with icon and text) | Jun 02 07:10 |
| schestowitz | I wasn't entirely serious | Jun 02 07:10 |
| schestowitz | I grew up with nc.exe | Jun 02 07:10 |
| MinceR | so did i | Jun 02 07:10 |
| schestowitz | The win95 version was never as good | Jun 02 07:10 |
| schestowitz | Messy, clumsy | Jun 02 07:10 |
| MinceR | if only i could remember what my problems with nautilus were | Jun 02 07:11 |
| MinceR | well, i guess i'm going to find out | Jun 02 07:11 |
| MinceR | oh, dolphin also likes to go berserk if it's rolled up, i hover on the titlebar to make it temporarily drop down and do something that pops up a transient window | Jun 02 07:12 |
| MinceR | the main window rolls up and dolphin goes berserk because the kde4 devs didn't remember their window manager had such a feature | Jun 02 07:12 |
| schestowitz | I just got some nice/useful info...... | Jun 02 07:47 |
| schestowitz | > Thank you, Roy, for reporting on the Red Hat issue. What I can tell you | Jun 02 07:47 |
| schestowitz | > confidentially is that a rather famous Linux programmer called me during | Jun 02 07:47 |
| schestowitz | > the NoSwPat campaign (late 2004 or early 2005) -- he called so as not to | Jun 02 07:47 |
| schestowitz | > leave a paper trail -- and warned me that Webbink is pro-swpat even | Jun 02 07:47 |
| schestowitz | > though Red Hat's programmers and community liaison people were staunchly | Jun 02 07:47 |
| schestowitz | > opposed to them. I also know that Webbink tried to discourage MySQL from | Jun 02 07:47 |
| schestowitz | > keeping up the No Software Patents position. | Jun 02 07:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 02 07:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 02 07:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 02 07:47 |
| schestowitz | > After all, Webbink is a lawyer and benefits from that system. That's | Jun 02 07:47 |
| schestowitz | > also what that Rocard adviser said in the email I quoted. I'm still | Jun 02 07:47 |
| schestowitz | > trying to find out more about it but I heard from someone that IBM gives | Jun 02 07:47 |
| schestowitz | > $4 million a year to the Software Freedom Law Center. The SFLC is pro | Jun 02 07:47 |
| schestowitz | > bono in formal terms but there's presumably nothing stopping them from | Jun 02 07:47 |
| schestowitz | > taking on cases and then hiring themselves (Moglen, Webbink etc.) to do | Jun 02 07:47 |
| schestowitz | > the legal work on a paid basis. Maybe there are some ways of finding out | Jun 02 07:47 |
| schestowitz | > in some register in the US about the funding those "non-profits" get. | Jun 02 07:47 |
| schestowitz | I have listened to all the SFLS[how] episodes, including their bits about donations. They named MySQL as a donator, but I don't get the impression they have much money. Moglen and Kuhn live in NY appartments and Moglen went back to teaching AFAIK. If IBM gives them much money, please show me proof. Rumour is not enough. Ben told me that SFLC is selling its own 'medicine'. Was the source close to FFII? | Jun 02 07:47 |
| schestowitz | Jun 02 07:47 | |
| schestowitz | > Unrelated to Red Hat, I attended a Brussels conference yesterday: | Jun 02 07:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 02 07:47 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.stockholm-network.org/Conferences-and-Programmes/Events/Previous-Events | Jun 02 07:48 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Previous Events .::. Size~: 30.37 KB | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > *Intellectual Property, Open Source, and Standards: Friends or Foes?* | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > *Date:** *01 June 2010 | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > *Location:** *Maastricht University Campus Brussels, Avenue de l’Armée / | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > Legerlaan 10, 1040, Brussels | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > *Speakers:** *Helen Disney, Malcolm Harbour MEP, Prof Anselm Kamperman | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > Sanders, Dr Meir Perez Pugatch, Dr Dalindyebo Shabalala and Prof Alain | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > Strowel | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | It's very lawyers-oriented. | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | Lawyers Try to Marry Free Software and Software Patents in Maastricht University (Brussels) | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/05/26/interoperability-with-swpats-lobby/ | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > Still nothing to be quoted, just background stuff for you: | Jun 02 07:48 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Lawyers Try to Marry Free Software and Software Patents in Maastricht University (Brussels) | Techrights .::. Size~: 108.41 KB | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > Malcolm Harbour is a totally pro-swpat MEP (with whom I had a semiheated | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > debate years ago in an EP conference room; he flatly denied the | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > directive was about swpats at all...) and the other speakers were mostly | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > lawyers, including Damien Geradin, who didn't appear on the list on the | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > Internet and was somehow involved with the Qualcomm antitrust case and | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > it seems he was on Qualcomm's side. I know you consider MPEG LA a patent | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > troll but compared to Qualcomm they're the Salvation Army. Seriously. | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > MPEG LA wants a few million per licensee and if you have a problem with | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > Qualcomm they'll try to charge billions. So you can imagine where a | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > lawyer like that would stand on patents. But apart from disagreement on | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > some key issues I have to give him credit for having delivered the best | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > presentation there in terms of quantity and quality of information provided. | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | Can I quote from that last paragraph? | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > I won't blog about that event specifically. I'll go to OpenForum Europe | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > next week and when I report on OFE, then I'll also mention the Stockholm | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > Network in a sentence or two. OFE will be bigger and more political, | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > including that Kroes will speak. Monty Widenius, Henrik Ingo and I met | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > her in early January to discuss the Oracle/Sun case. We didn't talk | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > about that meeting publicly. | Jun 02 07:48 |
| schestowitz | > Would it be possible to have some retrospectives to show the harm Novell | Jun 02 08:04 |
| schestowitz | > is doing and how their behavior is worse now? In the SCO v Novell | Jun 02 08:04 |
| schestowitz | > fight, neither side are the good guys. | Jun 02 08:04 |
| schestowitz | > I ask, because Novell's Torsten Behrens is making another attack at OOo | Jun 02 08:04 |
| schestowitz | > by running for the Community Council. The position is not selected by | Jun 02 08:04 |
| schestowitz | > the general community nor the Native Language groups, which are wise to | Jun 02 08:05 |
| schestowitz | > Novell. Instead it is selected by a smaller, more easily lobbied group. | Jun 02 08:05 |
| schestowitz | > His claim is to want to 'bridge the gap', but it looks like that means | Jun 02 08:05 |
| schestowitz | > bring OOo more to Miguel deIcaza's vision of MS FOSS. | Jun 02 08:05 |
| MinceR | and now the ssh kioslave whent berserk on my netbook, too | Jun 02 08:25 |
| MinceR | maybe today's a special day for this POS | Jun 02 08:29 |
| schestowitz | Still locked out? | Jun 02 08:40 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks. What during the first year were the most heinous things from | Jun 02 08:40 |
| schestowitz | > MS/Novell and what is the situation today? I notice that none of the | Jun 02 08:40 |
| schestowitz | > employees have returned... | Jun 02 08:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 02 08:40 |
| schestowitz | > Novell really went after Sun and its projects. OOo is key to a lot for | Jun 02 08:40 |
| schestowitz | > Free Software and Open Source on the desktop. It looks like the goal is | Jun 02 08:40 |
| schestowitz | > to wrest control of OOo away from the FOSS community or FOSS-supporting | Jun 02 08:40 |
| schestowitz | > companies and cripple it so as to maintain Microsoft's monopoly on | Jun 02 08:40 |
| schestowitz | > office formats. | Jun 02 08:40 |
| MinceR | switched to nautilus there too | Jun 02 08:41 |
| schestowitz | Hmmm.. | Jun 02 08:45 |
| schestowitz | >> Was the source close to FFII? | Jun 02 08:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 02 08:47 |
| schestowitz | > Probably not, it's a US-based source close to a FOSS project. | Jun 02 08:47 |
| schestowitz | > I know that rumors aren't enough: I meant to say that this could be | Jun 02 08:47 |
| schestowitz | > interesting if any information comes up that's verifiable. There could be | Jun 02 08:47 |
| schestowitz | > some rules in the US that require organizations to disclose sources of | Jun 02 08:47 |
| schestowitz | > funding if certain amounts (or percentages) are exceeded. | Jun 02 08:47 |
| schestowitz | > MySQL's founders made a small donation to the SFLC years ago. | Jun 02 08:47 |
| schestowitz | SFLC says in SFLS that they do release this information to the public. I think this includes disclosure of funding (no slush funds). | Jun 02 08:47 |
| schestowitz | >>> Malcolm Harbour [...] quality of information provided. | Jun 02 08:47 |
| schestowitz | >> Can I quote from that last paragraph? | Jun 02 08:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 02 08:47 |
| schestowitz | > Please don't quote from that. But without attributing it to a source you | Jun 02 08:47 |
| schestowitz | > would name, you can certainly mention that Damien Geradin made a | Jun 02 08:47 |
| schestowitz | > presentation at yesterday's event. I've meanwhile found his profile on his | Jun 02 08:47 |
| schestowitz | > law firm's website: | Jun 02 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.howrey.com/geradind/ | Jun 02 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > That's more specific information than what I had emailed you. | Jun 02 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 02 08:48 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Howrey - People - Damien Geradin .::. Size~: 108.88 KB | Jun 02 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > Concerning Malcolm Harbour, the FFII has plenty of information on him that's | Jun 02 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > public. I had my fight with him and I mentioned it in my ebook but I don't | Jun 02 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > want to start a new fight with him now because there isn't any ongoing | Jun 02 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > process in which he plays the kind of role he did on swpats. | Jun 02 08:48 |
| schestowitz | http://idle.slashdot.org/story/10/06/01/1256220/New-Hungarian-Government-OMGs-All-Gov-Sites?from=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29 | Jun 02 09:15 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Slashdot Idle Story | New Hungarian Government OMGs All Gov Sites .::. Size~: 107.04 KB | Jun 02 09:15 |
| schestowitz | "The requested URL /index_en.html was not found on this server." | Jun 02 09:15 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Jun 02 09:15 |
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| schestowitz | "The new Hungarian government chose to replace the home pages with a 'disclaimer' page on several governmental websites such as ministries or the Foreign Office. The title and the main message is 'OMG,' which is followed by an explanation that the inherited websites 'lack any kind of uniform structure' and this is 'unworthy of Hungary.' Today is the takeover day in most ministries for the new administration." | Jun 02 09:16 |
| schestowitz | *LMAO* | Jun 02 09:16 |
| schestowitz | me: "Recently, a few articles have been published regarding Tor, Wikileaks, and snooping data coming out of the Tor network. I write to remind our users, and people in search of privacy enhancing technology, that good software is just one part of the solution. Education is just as important." | Jun 02 09:39 |
| schestowitz | Oops | Jun 02 09:39 |
| schestowitz | THis: "@bkuhn is there a publicly-available form with list of SFLC funders?" | Jun 02 09:39 |
| schestowitz | Let's see if IBM is behind them | Jun 02 09:39 |
| schestowitz | Look what a small # of stories make it into Digg's FP for "UNIX/Linux": http://digg.com/linux_unix | Jun 02 11:08 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Error processing the URL: .::. Size~: 0 KB | Jun 02 11:08 |
| schestowitz | Like 10 in a month | Jun 02 11:08 |
| schestowitz | Used to be 10 per day sometimes | Jun 02 11:08 |
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| schestowitz | >> http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Open+source+code+software+saves+schools+money+on+licence+fees/1135257095156 | Jun 02 14:28 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Helsingin Sanomat - International Edition - Home .::. Size~: 19.6 KB | Jun 02 14:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 02 14:28 |
| schestowitz | > Follow-up thoughts on this are that the maintenance costs are greatly | Jun 02 14:28 |
| schestowitz | > reduced by using FOSS, but M$ only allows publications to talk about | Jun 02 14:28 |
| schestowitz | > licensing costs. The same about actually using the software and getting | Jun 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | > work down with it. Productivity of your average user goes way up with | Jun 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | > the elimination of M$ products from the work place. The same is with | Jun 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | > security. The security programme 'tietoturvaopas' is just | Jun 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | > state-sponsored marketing for M$ and sham add-ons like F-secure. | Jun 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | > Security initiatives could pay for themselves within a year just by | Jun 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | > banning Microsoft products and still have money left over to write or | Jun 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | > spruce up specific applications. With the talk limited to licensing, M$ | Jun 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | > can always pull an EDGI. | Jun 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | > M$ has a lock on college education and is able to nearly 100% prevent | Jun 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | > any students from getting practical experience with computers. Further, | Jun 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | > any students that might be interested in computers are driven out of the | Jun 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | > field or broken and forced into the M$ pyramid scam. The idea looks to | Jun 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | > be to keep starving the market. The result is a complete shortage of IT | Jun 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | > skills but an over abundance of Certified Partners. | Jun 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | > Another item missing, related to using computers, is that the entire | Jun 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | > Finnish public sector is supposed to already be using Free and Open | Jun 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | > Source Software: | Jun 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.jhs-suositukset.fi/suomi/jhs169 | Jun 02 14:29 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: JHS-suositukset - JHS 169 .::. Size~: 14.86 KB | Jun 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | > It has been actively blocked to-date by many smiling "friendly" "polite" | Jun 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | > individuals. | Jun 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | Entryism | Jun 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | >>> Who said we have eliminated buffer overflows ? | Jun 02 16:53 |
| schestowitz | >> | Jun 02 16:53 |
| schestowitz | >> Dunno. | Jun 02 16:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 02 16:53 |
| schestowitz | > Sorry: I forgot I was dealing with the robot Roy Schestowitz. What I | Jun 02 16:53 |
| schestowitz | > meant was, I have forgotten what Microsoftie originally said that and | Jun 02 16:53 |
| schestowitz | > it would be a good quote for a post I want to make. As such I was | Jun 02 16:53 |
| schestowitz | > wondering if you would do me the favor of looking it up. | Jun 02 16:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 02 16:53 |
| schestowitz | > But never mind, sorry to have distracted you ... | Jun 02 16:53 |
| schestowitz | Heh. No, I was seriously thinking that BillG had said that or something. | Jun 02 16:53 |
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| ender2070 | http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=683 | Jun 02 21:31 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: If Mono innovates then Im the King of Canada .::. Size~: 26.68 KB | Jun 02 21:31 |
| ender2070 | submitted to reddit, slashdot | Jun 02 21:31 |
| ender2070 | anywhere else? | Jun 02 21:31 |
| ender2070 | got digg | Jun 02 21:39 |
| ender2070 | http://digg.com/programming/If_Mono_innovates_then_I_m_the_King_of_Canada | Jun 02 21:39 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Error processing the URL: .::. Size~: 0 KB | Jun 02 21:39 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/30/hamas-leader-americans-contact | Jun 02 22:25 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Hamas leader says American envoys making contact, but not openly | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 71.36 KB | Jun 02 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Back to 1967 borders? | Jun 02 22:25 |
| schestowitz | http://www.stallman.org/archives/2010-mar-jun.html#2%20June%202010%20%28Israel%20attacks%20Freedom%20Flotilla%29 | Jun 02 22:27 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBagEpYUsoA | Jun 02 22:42 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- Edward Tarte, former catholic priest, speaks about the sacraments .::. Size~: 97.42 KB | Jun 02 22:42 |
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| schestowitz | http://blog.beliefnet.com/jesuscreed/2010/06/no-more-impostors.html | Jun 02 23:12 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: No More Impostors 1 - Jesus Creed .::. Size~: 93.86 KB | Jun 02 23:12 |
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| schestowitz | http://copilotco.com/ works on the same server | Jun 03 05:39 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Copilotco PCI Compliant Professionally Managed Linux Hosting Services — copilotco .::. Size~: 11.31 KB | Jun 03 05:39 |
| schestowitz | but technrights gives just a sort of timeout like it ain't there | Jun 03 05:39 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: ""Tax operating systems don't formally support Linux systems ... It's a bit cost-prohibitive [to develop for Linux] when it's such a small component of users," Konti told iTnews, estimating Linux users to comprise only one percent of Australian business users." | Jun 03 05:46 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itnews.com.au/News/176444,third-time-lucky-for-atos-digital-authentication.aspx | Jun 03 05:46 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Third time lucky for ATO's digital authentication - Software - Technology - News - iTnews.com.au .::. Size~: 69.02 KB | Jun 03 05:46 |
| schestowitz | Maybe true in Australia, but not worldwide | Jun 03 05:46 |
| oiaohm | Not even true here schestowitz | Jun 03 05:48 |
| oiaohm | Lot of Linux business are running windows in virtual machine to interface with tax system. | Jun 03 05:49 |
| oiaohm | Does that explain why they are pissed. | Jun 03 05:49 |
| oiaohm | I can see myself sending the TAX Office a virtual machine bill this year. | Jun 03 05:50 |
| oiaohm | Ie Plus copy of windows. | Jun 03 05:50 |
| oiaohm | Biggest annoyance they will not give me a sample auskey to give to the wine project | Jun 03 05:53 |
| schestowitz | Interesting. | Jun 03 06:13 |
| schestowitz | Either way, it's funny how people are fed the "1%" part line | Jun 03 06:14 |
| schestowitz | *ty | Jun 03 06:14 |
| schestowitz | And how they defend ignoring Linux using this line | Jun 03 06:14 |
| schestowitz | I need to enter my bank pretendign to be win/MSIE | Jun 03 06:14 |
| schestowitz | http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/iPhone-leak-is-getting-bigger-Update-1012575.html | Jun 03 06:22 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: iPhone leak is getting bigger - Update - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 37.44 KB | Jun 03 06:22 |
| schestowitz | Funny. | Jun 03 06:23 |
| schestowitz | hypePhone's black eye | Jun 03 06:23 |
| MinceR | now i remember why i don't use nautilus: sechole. any desktop link is displayed with the name specified in the link so it can masquerade as any file | Jun 03 09:10 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/34459300#notice-34631853 "@schestowitz: Yes, there would be some difficulties in how to implement it but surely no more cause for umbrage than the credibility index." | Jun 03 12:00 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.82 KB | Jun 03 12:00 |
| schestowitz | That index has not been updated from years. | Jun 03 12:00 |
| schestowitz | *for | Jun 03 12:00 |
| MinceR | yay, winblows is stuck in 1990 | Jun 03 12:08 |
| schestowitz | Re: On continuing Ask Jack…. | Jun 03 12:38 |
| schestowitz | > This deserves a special mention on techrights.org | Jun 03 12:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 03 12:38 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/askjack/2010/may/31/ask-jack-continues | Jun 03 12:38 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: On continuing Ask Jack…. | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 107.4 KB | Jun 03 12:38 |
| schestowitz | I've just read it. Shouldn't we just ignore this lost man? | Jun 03 12:38 |
| oiaohm | At long last moving up to KDE 4.4 | Jun 03 12:50 |
| oiaohm | I have been sitting on KDE 4.3 for ages. | Jun 03 12:50 |
| oiaohm | I am currently out of internet quota so beating heck out of local file mirror that I still get full speed from. | Jun 03 12:50 |
| schestowitz | 4.4 is good | Jun 03 12:52 |
| schestowitz | Few setbacks, mostly improvements | Jun 03 12:52 |
| schestowitz | konversation hogs more RAM | Jun 03 12:52 |
| schestowitz | Not sure why | Jun 03 12:52 |
| oiaohm | Note I am on debian. | Jun 03 12:53 |
| oiaohm | There was a memory issue with konverastion ubuntu picked up. | Jun 03 12:54 |
| oiaohm | I am picking up debian 3 revision of 4.4 | Jun 03 12:54 |
| oiaohm | ubuntu picked up debian 1 revision | Jun 03 12:55 |
| oiaohm | Big thing I am wondering is will network config work again. | Jun 03 12:55 |
| oiaohm | Or will it still be broken. | Jun 03 12:56 |
| oiaohm | Not like it ruines my day. | Jun 03 12:56 |
| MinceR | i'm wondering whether plasma-desktop will ever be reliable. | Jun 03 12:59 |
| MinceR | or whether the ssh kioslave will stop being a DoS threat. | Jun 03 13:00 |
| MinceR | or whether dolphin will ever stop "forgetting" to list some files for the first time a folder is entered. | Jun 03 13:00 |
| oiaohm | ssh kioslave will be fixed at one point. | Jun 03 13:00 |
| oiaohm | What OS are you on MinceR | Jun 03 13:01 |
| MinceR | kubuntu karmic | Jun 03 13:01 |
| oiaohm | The forgetting to list files is not something I have seen dolphin do. | Jun 03 13:01 |
| oiaohm | Ie not some. | Jun 03 13:01 |
| MinceR | i see it all the time | Jun 03 13:01 |
| oiaohm | I have seen it forget to list all. | Jun 03 13:01 |
| MinceR | i know it is there but it isn't listed | Jun 03 13:01 |
| MinceR | then i refresh and it's there | Jun 03 13:01 |
| MinceR | at least with a particular directory | Jun 03 13:02 |
| oiaohm | I have always had all or nothing. | Jun 03 13:02 |
| oiaohm | No half way. | Jun 03 13:02 |
| MinceR | i should find a file manager that doesn't suck | Jun 03 13:02 |
| oiaohm | I am wondering if ubuntu shot a few things. | Jun 03 13:02 |
| MinceR | i'll have to give rox-filer and thunar another try | Jun 03 13:02 |
| MinceR | maybe they did | Jun 03 13:02 |
| oiaohm | Because I had people on 4.3 on ubuntu complain about same kinds of faults as well. | Jun 03 13:03 |
| oiaohm | When I was on 4.3 and never had them. | Jun 03 13:03 |
| oiaohm | The plasma-desktop I am not exactly sure when. | Jun 03 13:03 |
| oiaohm | The maintainer of that will not spit the scripting engines away from the main desktop. MinceR | Jun 03 13:04 |
| oiaohm | Ie trouble. Classic old firefox single process trouble. | Jun 03 13:04 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I have ctrl+alt+h for konq | Jun 03 13:05 |
| schestowitz | ctrl+alt+s for dolphin | Jun 03 13:05 |
| schestowitz | plasma helps me manage most of what I need | Jun 03 13:05 |
| schestowitz | Set up folderview | Jun 03 13:05 |
| schestowitz | make a few for frequently access dirs | Jun 03 13:05 |
| schestowitz | When you want dir access, CTRL+desktop# | Jun 03 13:06 |
| oiaohm | Basically just like firefox old really watch what plasma extentions you try to use. MinceR | Jun 03 13:06 |
| schestowitz | you get free screen with all your fav dirs in the big | Jun 03 13:06 |
| schestowitz | hover to see within dirs | Jun 03 13:06 |
| schestowitz | Kind of neat, works well in 4.4 | Jun 03 13:06 |
| schestowitz | That's how I manage images and other stuff separately | Jun 03 13:07 |
| schestowitz | I also drag those into GIMP to open | Jun 03 13:07 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes I from from Firefox to GIMP (faster) | Jun 03 13:07 |
| schestowitz | I can't do all that in kde3 | Jun 03 13:07 |
| schestowitz | I really like the latest identica thing in kde 4.4 | Jun 03 13:08 |
| schestowitz | It was buggy in 4.3 | Jun 03 13:08 |
| schestowitz | Now it has more features and no bugs | Jun 03 13:08 |
| schestowitz | I also have a better plasmoid for weather | Jun 03 13:08 |
| schestowitz | and world clock | Jun 03 13:08 |
| oiaohm | Ok so try identica again. | Jun 03 13:08 |
| schestowitz | I am liking widgets with practical value that I use | Jun 03 13:08 |
| oiaohm | identica was nasty in 4.3 | Jun 03 13:08 |
| schestowitz | If I wanna know tessier's time | Jun 03 13:09 |
| schestowitz | I just hover over a part of my destkop | Jun 03 13:09 |
| schestowitz | No clicks | Jun 03 13:09 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yeah | Jun 03 13:09 |
| schestowitz | Bad colours | Jun 03 13:09 |
| schestowitz | No count of chars that's visible | Jun 03 13:09 |
| schestowitz | No icons showing up all the time | Jun 03 13:09 |
| oiaohm | I wish I had skipped QT4-dbg now. | Jun 03 13:10 |
| schestowitz | No acceleration in scrolling | Jun 03 13:10 |
| oiaohm | 160 meg download | Jun 03 13:10 |
| schestowitz | Just one view, no replies/msgs | Jun 03 13:10 |
| schestowitz | kate is nice | Jun 03 13:10 |
| schestowitz | Oh... | Jun 03 13:10 |
| schestowitz | And the themes are better | Jun 03 13:10 |
| schestowitz | They do nice gradients | Jun 03 13:10 |
| schestowitz | So nothing is plain grey | Jun 03 13:10 |
| oiaohm | I am at long last upgrading to kdevelop 4.0 as well. | Jun 03 13:10 |
| schestowitz | And window decorations can be customised more | Jun 03 13:10 |
| schestowitz | Mine looks like chrome tabs now | Jun 03 13:11 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: like this http://blog.volker-lanz.de/2010/06/02/new-in-kde-partition-manager-1-1-vi-the-fine-print-in-the-feature-list/ | Jun 03 13:12 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: vlanz's blog » Blog Archive » New In KDE Partition Manager 1.1 (VI): The Fine Print In the Feature List .::. Size~: 31.81 KB | Jun 03 13:12 |
| schestowitz | Watch the windows decors | Jun 03 13:12 |
| schestowitz | With blue | Jun 03 13:12 |
| schestowitz | I also changed some fonts | Jun 03 13:12 |
| schestowitz | ANd there's no white background, it's light blue too | Jun 03 13:13 |
| schestowitz | In firefox also | Jun 03 13:13 |
| oiaohm | Still need more work. | Jun 03 13:31 |
| oiaohm | LVM support missing is still a pain in but. | Jun 03 13:31 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: http://blog.volker-lanz.de/2010/06/02/new-in-kde-partition-manager-1-1-vi-the-fine-print-in-the-feature-list/ | Jun 03 13:46 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: vlanz's blog » Blog Archive » New In KDE Partition Manager 1.1 (VI): The Fine Print In the Feature List .::. Size~: 33.1 KB | Jun 03 13:46 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 03 13:46 |
| schestowitz | This concludes part six in a sequence of entries presenting some of the new features of the soon-to-be-finished KDE Partition Manager 1.1. The previous parts were: | Jun 03 13:46 |
| schestowitz | 1. Mount Management | Jun 03 13:46 |
| schestowitz | 2. SMART Status Reports | Jun 03 13:46 |
| schestowitz | 3. Support For 4096-Byte Sectors | Jun 03 13:46 |
| schestowitz | 4. Improved Size Dialog | Jun 03 13:46 |
| schestowitz | 5. Options Galore | Jun 03 13:46 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 03 13:46 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they'll do LVM gui too | Jun 03 13:47 |
| oiaohm | Not yet. | Jun 03 13:47 |
| oiaohm | But its on the drawing board. | Jun 03 13:48 |
| schestowitz | Not sure | Jun 03 13:48 |
| schestowitz | It's a very advanced feature | Jun 03 13:48 |
| schestowitz | Those who use it know what they are doing | Jun 03 13:48 |
| oiaohm | I have been watching it. | Jun 03 13:48 |
| schestowitz | I saw it in YaST | Jun 03 13:48 |
| oiaohm | I love LVM snapshots. | Jun 03 13:48 |
| oiaohm | Ie to roll back upgrades if they go wrong. | Jun 03 13:48 |
| oiaohm | Its very quicky getting ahead of gparted. | Jun 03 13:49 |
| oiaohm | What has be very much a main stay. | Jun 03 13:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/3d-pcs-coming-soon-then-a-boom-says-report/35125?tag=mncol;txt | Jun 03 13:51 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: 3D PCs coming soon then a boom, says report | ZDNet .::. Size~: 123.21 KB | Jun 03 13:51 |
| oiaohm | LOL | Jun 03 13:52 |
| oiaohm | We still have to wear stupid specs to use them. | Jun 03 13:52 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/archive/top-5-free-linux-distributions-for-servers-in-2010/ | Jun 03 13:54 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Top 5 Free Linux Distributions for Servers in 2010 .::. Size~: 84.55 KB | Jun 03 13:54 |
| schestowitz | Debian #1 | Jun 03 13:54 |
| oiaohm | Does that make sence why my default setup is debian schestowitz | Jun 03 13:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/7787167/Hilarious-web-addresses-revealed-in-new-book.html | Jun 03 14:17 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Hilarious web addresses revealed in new book - Telegraph .::. Size~: 50.62 KB | Jun 03 14:17 |
| schestowitz | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100528193653754 | Jun 03 14:23 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Groklaw - Here it is: SCO's Reply to Novell's Response to Motion for New Trial - Updated, as text .::. Size~: 216.64 KB | Jun 03 14:23 |
| schestowitz | Not gicing up | Jun 03 14:23 |
| schestowitz | *ving | Jun 03 14:23 |
| MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/caqol/gary_colemans_coffin_it_even_has_his_name_on_it/ | Jun 03 14:39 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Gary Coleman's coffin - it even has his name on it : pics .::. Size~: 402.4 KB | Jun 03 14:39 |
| schestowitz | Mean. | Jun 03 14:41 |
| MinceR | that's why it's so funny | Jun 03 14:42 |
| MinceR | strangely enough it didn't come from the toosoon subreddit. | Jun 03 14:42 |
| schestowitz | "Whatchu talkin bout, Will-ice?" | Jun 03 14:42 |
| schestowitz | more like 4chan | Jun 03 14:43 |
| MinceR | they say there's a pretty close connection between 4chan and reddit | Jun 03 14:43 |
| schestowitz | "Poor guy had such a short career" | Jun 03 14:43 |
| MinceR | and i don't mind it at all | Jun 03 14:43 |
| schestowitz | [14:43] <MinceR> they say there's a pretty close connection between 4chan and reddit | Jun 03 14:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 03 14:43 |
| schestowitz | IEatCatShit 8 points9 points10 points 10 hours ago[-] | Jun 03 14:43 |
| schestowitz | I eat cat shit. | Jun 03 14:43 |
| schestowitz | * perma-link | Jun 03 14:43 |
| schestowitz | * parent | Jun 03 14:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 03 14:44 |
| schestowitz | ic.... | Jun 03 14:44 |
| MinceR | the answer to that is funnier. | Jun 03 14:44 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jun 03 14:45 |
| schestowitz | waste of time though | Jun 03 14:45 |
| schestowitz | bad influence | Jun 03 14:45 |
| MinceR | it's also a news source. | Jun 03 14:45 |
| schestowitz | what does that t-shirt say? | Jun 03 14:47 |
| MinceR | read it upside down and you'll see | Jun 03 14:48 |
| schestowitz | Hah | Jun 03 14:50 |
| schestowitz | I like clever shirts | Jun 03 14:56 |
| schestowitz | "FCUK" is still popular here | Jun 03 14:56 |
| schestowitz | football club uk | Jun 03 14:56 |
| MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/user/Non-Sequitur_Gimli http://www.reddit.com/user/Late_Legolas | Jun 03 14:57 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: overview for Non-Sequitur_Gimli .::. Size~: 81.25 KB | Jun 03 14:57 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: overview for Late_Legolas .::. Size~: 41.67 KB | Jun 03 14:57 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I won't even click on their links | Jun 03 14:58 |
| schestowitz | It's enough for me to read the descriptions | Jun 03 14:59 |
| schestowitz | And I plan dinner soon | Jun 03 14:59 |
| MinceR | i think such joke users are awesome. | Jun 03 14:59 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/atlasdx | Jun 03 15:41 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Altas DX (atlasdx) on Twitter .::. Size~: 32.4 KB | Jun 03 15:41 |
| schestowitz | Is this Brandon? | Jun 03 15:41 |
| schestowitz | I think not, I'm not sure | Jun 03 15:41 |
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| schestowitz | ender2070: who is this http://twitter.com/atlasdx | Jun 03 15:53 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Altas DX (atlasdx) on Twitter .::. Size~: 32.4 KB | Jun 03 15:53 |
| schestowitz | I got pinged about it | Jun 03 15:53 |
| ender2070 | thats me | Jun 03 15:53 |
| schestowitz | why different name? | Jun 03 15:55 |
| ender2070 | i couldnt use ender2070 there after deleting the account | Jun 03 15:55 |
| schestowitz | At least add in the description something to say who you are | Jun 03 15:55 |
| ender2070 | 6 months back | Jun 03 15:55 |
| schestowitz | Later on they use it to justify their nymfest with my face with horns and stuff | Jun 03 15:55 |
| ender2070 | i still have my identica though | Jun 03 15:55 |
| schestowitz | They are also bullies | Jun 03 15:55 |
| schestowitz | Better to avoid them | Jun 03 15:55 |
| schestowitz | I don't want controversy and provocation if it can be avoided | Jun 03 15:56 |
| schestowitz | Let the Lumpy one lose his job | Jun 03 15:56 |
| schestowitz | As he will | Jun 03 15:56 |
| ender2070 | true | Jun 03 15:56 |
| schestowitz | Then show off his attack sites | Jun 03 15:56 |
| ender2070 | ill post something on my site in my contact section too | Jun 03 15:56 |
| schestowitz | To get employment in the sanitary dept. (trash cans) | Jun 03 15:56 |
| ender2070 | listing all the differences in naming so i dont get accused anymore | Jun 03 15:57 |
| schestowitz | They use people who read out site and have more than 1 name to discredit me | Jun 03 15:57 |
| schestowitz | "twitter" for example | Jun 03 15:57 |
| schestowitz | /out/our/ | Jun 03 15:57 |
| ender2070 | yeah | Jun 03 15:58 |
| ender2070 | lefty = stonemirror = david schlesinger | Jun 03 15:58 |
| ender2070 | as much nymshifting as I | Jun 03 15:58 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jun 03 15:58 |
| MinceR | where did twitter go? | Jun 03 16:01 |
| schestowitz | work | Jun 03 16:06 |
| schestowitz | I'm starting to have Android sites. They're all just apps, apps, apps. | Jun 03 16:40 |
| ender2070 | ? | Jun 03 16:41 |
| schestowitz | Android-Guys and others | Jun 03 16:44 |
| schestowitz | Just stupid news about proprietary s/w | Jun 03 16:44 |
| schestowitz | Not about Android/Linux | Jun 03 16:44 |
| schestowitz | It's like a Google version of iPhone | Jun 03 16:44 |
| schestowitz | More junk and walled gardens | Jun 03 16:44 |
| ender2070 | except i've never heard about being forced to jailbreak an android | Jun 03 16:47 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Jun 03 16:47 |
| ender2070 | you can bypass their store and install GPL apps no problem | Jun 03 16:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U452hvls57A | Jun 03 16:51 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- Apple pulls the iSlam Muhammad App .::. Size~: 101.24 KB | Jun 03 16:51 |
| MinceR | you'll have to bypass the store if you don't want to let google delete any of your apps when they feel like it | Jun 03 16:53 |
| schestowitz | Brainwashing kids: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoGJP02CtPA | Jun 03 16:58 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- Sharmeen Obaid Chinoy: Inside a school for suicide bombers .::. Size~: 101.17 KB | Jun 03 16:58 |
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| schestowitz | Just got off the phone.... | Jun 03 21:36 |
| schestowitz | One hour with my aunt in Florida | Jun 03 21:36 |
| schestowitz | It's a bit of a mess | Jun 03 21:36 |
| MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/cay7i/inspiration_from_bruce_lee_that_is_all/c0rbbcj | Jun 03 22:40 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: gipsyKing1 comments on inspiration from bruce lee, that is all. .::. Size~: 388.86 KB | Jun 03 22:40 |
| schestowitz | "it looks awesome. Now with the ability to shred partitions. wow" http://identi.ca/conversation/34527815#notice-34701522 | Jun 03 23:03 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.46 KB | Jun 03 23:03 |
| schestowitz | I love kde4, MinceR | Jun 03 23:03 |
| schestowitz | I realise others feel differenytly | Jun 03 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | > Hi Roy, | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > This here is a conference on "financing culture in the digital era", in | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > other words, on how to deal with revenue generation and copyright in the | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > digital world, taking place in Brussels next Tuesday. | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > short URL: | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > http://bit.ly/ddfjJC | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 04 06:18 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The Greens | European Free Alliance in the European Parliament - – Financing culture in the digital era .::. Size~: 9.74 KB | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > long URL (difficult to share because of @ sign in the address): | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.greens-efa.eu/cms/default/dok/342/342613.financing_culture_in_the_digital_era@en.htm | Jun 04 06:18 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The Greens | European Free Alliance in the European Parliament - – Financing culture in the digital era .::. Size~: 9.74 KB | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > The Greens are very much on the side of the FOSS movement concerning | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > IPRs. This here is more of a digital content than FOSS issue, but it's | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > not entirely unrelated and at any rate I'd like to help them get some | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > attention because the Greens and I worked together so closely against | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > software patents. Don't know if this fits in with TechRights' focus, but | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > in case it does, then maybe you could write about it. | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | Do you know David Hammerstein? He's the only one I know from there. | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | Jun 04 06:18 | |
| schestowitz | > Yes, he was a Green MEP during the last term (2004-2009) and now he's | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > campaigning for open standards. | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > I met him several times in the EP. | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > I don't think he's involved with that "financing content" conference but the | Jun 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > person who's organizing it, Laurence Vandewalle, worked closely with him | Jun 04 06:19 |
| schestowitz | > while he was an MEP. | Jun 04 06:19 |
| schestowitz | hpePad... http://identi.ca/conversation/34595392#notice-34770209 | Jun 04 09:43 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.79 KB | Jun 04 09:43 |
| schestowitz | "although nokia has been fairly good to free software, when they pull bullshit like that they deserve to be called out [..] hey where was all the stories about nokia when they brought all the litigation with apple for bullshit patents?" @eeefak I wrote about that a lot and denounced Nokia since 2008 http://www.google.com/search?q=site:techrights.org+apple+nokia&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8&hl= | Jun 04 09:51 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: site:techrights.org apple nokia - Google Search .::. Size~: 35.96 KB | Jun 04 09:51 |
| oiaohm | Some people | Jun 04 10:24 |
| oiaohm | Apple started it | Jun 04 10:24 |
| oiaohm | Never mess with nokia | Jun 04 10:24 |
| oiaohm | Nokia is truly one of the most friendly companies out there. If nokia used all the patents they had they could have 100 percent of the market. | Jun 04 10:25 |
| schestowitz | Apple started it? | Jun 04 10:26 |
| schestowitz | I think Nokia did | Jun 04 10:26 |
| oiaohm | Apple started it. | Jun 04 10:34 |
| oiaohm | Trying to apply font patents on Nokia | Jun 04 10:34 |
| oiaohm | Sometimes you should leave well enough alone. | Jun 04 10:34 |
| schestowitz | I see.. | Jun 04 10:35 |
| oiaohm | Ie apple poked nokia with small stick. | Jun 04 10:36 |
| oiaohm | Nokia pulled out huge cub and procedded to beat them into the ground. | Jun 04 10:36 |
| oiaohm | Nokia is fine as long as you are not dumb enough to poke them. | Jun 04 10:37 |
| schestowitz | Any link on that? | Jun 04 10:37 |
| schestowitz | I thought Nokia had struck first | Jun 04 10:37 |
| oiaohm | Ie apple saber rattled. | Jun 04 10:38 |
| oiaohm | I did have the link. | Jun 04 10:38 |
| oiaohm | It was over there iphone they made a statement and nokia kinda exploded. | Jun 04 10:38 |
| oiaohm | Basically nokia believe in pemetive strick if they get wind of you planing to hit them. | Jun 04 10:40 |
| schestowitz | Show it to me, pls | Jun 04 10:40 |
| schestowitz | it's /very/ important | Jun 04 10:40 |
| schestowitz | I accused Nokia is being the first to strike | Jun 04 10:40 |
| schestowitz | I'd love to show Apple started it | Jun 04 10:41 |
| oiaohm | I know what the tech was about trying to get google to play ball. | Jun 04 10:43 |
| schestowitz | Let me know if you find this | Jun 04 10:47 |
| schestowitz | You're usually right about this stuff | Jun 04 10:47 |
| schestowitz | But I ought to at least show evidence from Apple/Nokia | Jun 04 10:47 |
| oiaohm | Its two things. | Jun 04 10:50 |
| oiaohm | Multi-touch and fonts. schestowitz | Jun 04 10:50 |
| oiaohm | Apple was saber rattling about multi-touch attacked quite a few companies. Nokia needs multi-touch to stay competitive. | Jun 04 10:51 |
| oiaohm | Nokia has a lot of core patents. Basically hit Apple hard get a good patent deal. | Jun 04 10:51 |
| schestowitz | But did Apple threaten Nokia? | Jun 04 10:52 |
| MinceR | for yourself, that is | Jun 04 10:52 |
| MinceR | crApple needs to be hit harder so they won't oppress the industry any more | Jun 04 10:52 |
| oiaohm | Nokia don't have to threat them before they will hit you. | Jun 04 10:54 |
| oiaohm | If you place your self as a tech road block. | Jun 04 10:54 |
| oiaohm | They will steam roll you. | Jun 04 10:54 |
| oiaohm | Basically apple threating other companies over multi-touch basically put themselves in nokia target to be neturalised before they can attack nokia. | Jun 04 10:55 |
| oiaohm | Be a nice company and nokia is nice to you. | Jun 04 10:55 |
| oiaohm | be a asshole company hope nokia has nothing on you. | Jun 04 10:55 |
| MinceR | and what has Xiph done against Nokia, then? | Jun 04 10:57 |
| oiaohm | http://industry.bnet.com/technology/10004789/apple-multi-touch-patent-on-shaky-ground/ And this is the bit that tops it all. | Jun 04 10:57 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Apple Multi-Touch Patent on Shaky Ground | BNET Technology Blog | BNET .::. Size~: 57.85 KB | Jun 04 10:57 |
| oiaohm | Apples patent might be completely worthless. | Jun 04 10:57 |
| MinceR | don't forget Nokia's attack on HTML5. | Jun 04 10:58 |
| oiaohm | Define attack. | Jun 04 10:59 |
| oiaohm | Lot of stuff against Xiph nokia showed was stuff they had licenced from other companies not there own stuff. | Jun 04 10:59 |
| oiaohm | Also hardware decoders are more power effective ie longer battery live. | Jun 04 11:00 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.wolfire.com/2010/06/Aquaria-goes-open-source | Jun 04 11:00 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Aquaria goes open source! - Wolfire Games Blog .::. Size~: 20.09 KB | Jun 04 11:00 |
| MinceR | Nokia along with crApple made sure that HTML5 has no default recommendation for codecs | Jun 04 11:00 |
| MinceR | when it could have been Theora/Vorbis. | Jun 04 11:00 |
| MinceR | that was an asshole move | Jun 04 11:01 |
| MinceR | it was said that Nokia did it so they could force DRM-encrusted shit the throats of users. | Jun 04 11:01 |
| oiaohm | Yep Nokia was on of the first to support VP8 | Jun 04 11:01 |
| MinceR | s/hit/hit down/ | Jun 04 11:01 |
| MinceR | there was no VP8 back then. | Jun 04 11:01 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it would not have been necessary | Jun 04 11:02 |
| oiaohm | Nokia was also the first to call google to release vp8 | Jun 04 11:02 |
| schestowitz | YouTUbe could use Ogg | Jun 04 11:02 |
| schestowitz | Google bought a company instead | Jun 04 11:02 |
| oiaohm | To solve issue MinceR | Jun 04 11:02 |
| MinceR | it was a nonissue | Jun 04 11:02 |
| schestowitz | Nokia support Microsoft's Silver Lie | Jun 04 11:03 |
| schestowitz | Since early 2008 | Jun 04 11:03 |
| oiaohm | There are a few issue with Theora | Jun 04 11:03 |
| MinceR | also, don't forget Nokia's whining about how the FLOSS community should just do what Nokia wants and help them put DRM everywhere. | Jun 04 11:03 |
| schestowitz | Ari's rant | Jun 04 11:03 |
| MinceR | what issues? slightly less efficient than the holy H.264? | Jun 04 11:03 |
| oiaohm | Vorbis you can build hardware decoders for quite well. | Jun 04 11:03 |
| oiaohm | H264 the same. | Jun 04 11:03 |
| schestowitz | Linux users "need some education" | Jun 04 11:03 |
| MinceR | or perhaps VC-1? (lol) | Jun 04 11:03 |
| oiaohm | Theora has issues when you try to turn it into power effective circuit. | Jun 04 11:04 |
| oiaohm | VC-1 is worse than Theora in a circuit. | Jun 04 11:04 |
| MinceR | so what do you recommend? i'd recommend using a CPU. | Jun 04 11:04 |
| oiaohm | Decated cirucit does not take as much power and lets the cpu run slow and pull less power. | Jun 04 11:05 |
| oiaohm | Remember lot of Nokia devices are about days of battery life. | Jun 04 11:05 |
| MinceR | well, my N97 doesn't do days of battery life. :> | Jun 04 11:06 |
| MinceR | not when i really use it. | Jun 04 11:06 |
| MinceR | (wifi, GPS, accelerometer all day) | Jun 04 11:06 |
| oiaohm | I said a lot. | Jun 04 11:06 |
| MinceR | (well, wifi not all day, actually) | Jun 04 11:06 |
| oiaohm | They have a few exceptions to the rule. | Jun 04 11:06 |
| oiaohm | But there goal is at least a day. | Jun 04 11:07 |
| schestowitz | Vista on N900? | Jun 04 11:07 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 04 11:07 |
| schestowitz | Mono is a resource hog | Jun 04 11:07 |
| oiaohm | Add a day in the sence of 16 hours | Jun 04 11:07 |
| oiaohm | with 8 hours sleep. MinceR | Jun 04 11:07 |
| schestowitz | I don't know why they put it on MeeGo | Jun 04 11:07 |
| MinceR | oh, the lucky ones who get to sleep 8h a day. | Jun 04 11:07 |
| oiaohm | Ie 8 hours sleep to charge bugger. | Jun 04 11:07 |
| oiaohm | So it can go the next day. | Jun 04 11:07 |
| MinceR | it charges in a lot less, though | Jun 04 11:07 |
| schestowitz | I haven't had 8 hours in sleep in years | Jun 04 11:08 |
| schestowitz | *of | Jun 04 11:08 |
| MinceR | i mostly alternate between 6 and 10. | Jun 04 11:08 |
| oiaohm | The health ones. MinceR | Jun 04 11:08 |
| schestowitz | 10? | Jun 04 11:08 |
| MinceR | the rich ones that can afford it | Jun 04 11:08 |
| oiaohm | Because healthly people will be around longer. | Jun 04 11:08 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: on weekends when i have time | Jun 04 11:08 |
| schestowitz | I'd be staring at the ceiling | Jun 04 11:08 |
| oiaohm | And will buy more product over there life time MinceR | Jun 04 11:09 |
| MinceR | besides, it's not like my body knows when it has slept enough. | Jun 04 11:09 |
| oiaohm | Yep just happens to line up with rich. | Jun 04 11:09 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: lol | Jun 04 11:09 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: actually, buying moar product can mean a less healthy life. | Jun 04 11:09 |
| MinceR | depends on the products | Jun 04 11:09 |
| schestowitz | moar? | Jun 04 11:09 |
| schestowitz | over 9000? | Jun 04 11:09 |
| MinceR | moar! | Jun 04 11:09 |
| MinceR | what, nine thousand? | Jun 04 11:10 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKncDLnqYh8 | Jun 04 11:11 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- Draw Mo' Day -9000- version .::. Size~: 94.55 KB | Jun 04 11:11 |
| schestowitz | "moar..." | Jun 04 11:11 |
| schestowitz | "moar wives" | Jun 04 11:11 |
| schestowitz | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/OpenSSL-updates-fix-vulnerabilities-1014786.html | Jun 04 11:12 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: OpenSSL updates fix vulnerabilities - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 32.63 KB | Jun 04 11:12 |
| oiaohm | http://mashable.com/2009/01/26/apple-multi-touch-patent/ << the nokia attack on apple would have started from here. schestowitz | Jun 04 11:15 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Apple Gets Their Multi-Touch Patent; Is Palm Screwed? .::. Size~: 89.79 KB | Jun 04 11:15 |
| oiaohm | A quite open patent attack against Palm over multitouch that nokia will need to implement to complete against iphone. | Jun 04 11:16 |
| oiaohm | Don't go rattling sabbers sometimes you wake up a monster who is in on mood in talking. | Jun 04 11:17 |
| oiaohm | http://www.macrumors.com/2009/01/22/tim-cook-apple-will-aggressively-protect-iphone-intellectual-property/ And these rumors would have made Nokia think offence is better than waiting around. | Jun 04 11:20 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Tim Cook: Apple Will Aggressively Protect iPhone Intellectual Property - Mac Rumors .::. Size~: 18.34 KB | Jun 04 11:20 |
| oiaohm | Yep don't rumor that you are going to Aggressively protect tech then be infringing on stuff. | Jun 04 11:21 |
| oiaohm | I guess schestowitz is afk | Jun 04 11:21 |
| schestowitz | Yeah... this is funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VVqL9etvU0 | Jun 04 11:30 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- Debating Creationists .::. Size~: 94.21 KB | Jun 04 11:30 |
| schestowitz | I can't find biology videos | Jun 04 11:31 |
| schestowitz | Boring in the Tube | Jun 04 11:31 |
| oiaohm | Can you see the start point now. schestowitz | Jun 04 11:31 |
| oiaohm | Ie apple says they going to protect the tech in the iphone. | Jun 04 11:31 |
| oiaohm | Nokia gets upset. | Jun 04 11:31 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I read that | Jun 04 11:40 |
| schestowitz | I was gonna do a post about it | Jun 04 11:40 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/Mark_Antony/statuses/15404684442 | Jun 04 11:53 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Twitter / Mark Taylor: @maslett Who should buy No ... .::. Size~: 7.95 KB | Jun 04 11:53 |
| schestowitz | Cute polar bears: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foJlCaH2CaA&feature=related | Jun 04 12:12 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- Postdoctoral Fellows - The "Engines" of University Research .::. Size~: 80.64 KB | Jun 04 12:12 |
| schestowitz | I'm thinking about exiting academia... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGd-tSsbNns&feature=related | Jun 04 12:42 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- How to Become a Scientist .::. Size~: 102.32 KB | Jun 04 12:42 |
| schestowitz | But I don't want to do something boring or stressful... | Jun 04 12:42 |
| schestowitz | Postdoc life is too long and arduous. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThgJHeDKsxA&NR=1&feature=fvwp | Jun 04 12:53 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- How to become a professor .::. Size~: 101.96 KB | Jun 04 12:53 |
| schestowitz | http://www.medicine.manchester.ac.uk/research/PubDetails/index.aspx?ID=28055 | Jun 04 13:14 |
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| schestowitz | > See here, Ewic used to be a Macintosh advocate :) | Jun 04 19:26 |
| schestowitz | > -- | Jun 04 19:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 04 19:26 |
| schestowitz | > Erik Funkenbusch – via The Minnesota Macintosh Users Group UUCP-Fido Gateway | Jun 04 19:26 |
| schestowitz | > UUCP: …uunet!tcnet!kksys!edgar!mmug!55!Erik.Funkenbusch | Jun 04 19:26 |
| schestowitz | > INET: Erik.Funkenbu…@f55.n282.z1.mmug.edgar.mn.org | Jun 04 19:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 04 19:26 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.csamgdtc.tk/has-j-radigan-released-any-new-vers | Jun 04 19:26 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Methods of getting bytes in and out » Blog Archive » Has J. Radigan released any new vers .::. Size~: 12.66 KB | Jun 04 19:26 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: from the person who brought up the Nokia thing: | Jun 04 19:30 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz yeah I think they are both equally pieces of shot for doing petty things like this. I don't support any patent litigation" | Jun 04 19:30 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/34630573#notice-34828763 | Jun 04 19:30 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.7 KB | Jun 04 19:30 |
| oiaohm | Basically only way to stop patent trolls is create fear that they open up there mouth and before they can do anything they are sued inside a inch of their life. | Jun 04 19:32 |
| oiaohm | Until patents are revoked. | Jun 04 19:32 |
| oiaohm | While we have patents. Some patent litigation has to be justified to stop companies thinking patents are a free ride to control a market. | Jun 04 19:35 |
| schestowitz | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/electronics/7800806/ARM-forms-software-alliance-to-take-on-Intel.html | Jun 04 19:40 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: ARM forms software alliance to take on Intel - Telegraph .::. Size~: 52.56 KB | Jun 04 19:40 |
| schestowitz | r is 'fake' open source:http://news.cnet.com/8301-13846_3-20006661-62.html | Jun 04 19:50 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: 'R' language bringing statistical analytics to the masses (Q&A) | Software, Interrupted - CNET News .::. Size~: 91.36 KB | Jun 04 19:50 |
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| schestowitz | Big layoffs at HP: http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/jobs/2010/06/03/hp-chief-explains-job-cuts-datacentre-consolidation-40089118/ | Jun 04 21:11 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: HP chief explains job cuts, datacentre consolidation | Jobs | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 35.89 KB | Jun 04 21:11 |
| MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/cbfyt/is_this_true/ | Jun 04 21:39 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Is this true? : pics .::. Size~: 508.7 KB | Jun 04 21:39 |
| schestowitz | academics in the US are poor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkuovJRIZr0&NR=1 | Jun 04 23:00 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- The Academic Working Poor .::. Size~: 92.21 KB | Jun 04 23:00 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/03/us-pakistan-drone-strikes | Jun 05 23:04 |
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| schestowitz | Obama drones too? | Jun 05 23:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/03/afghanistan-police-fuel-taliban-recruitment | Jun 05 23:15 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Afghan police failings fuelling Taliban recruitment, say UK army chiefs | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 61 KB | Jun 05 23:15 |
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| schestowitz | "Will it be possible to change the talk's topic? I would like to speak about the subject that I cover on a daily basis, namely the threats to Free software, including software patents. I think it would make a better talk." | Jun 06 12:48 |
| schestowitz | I'm giving a public talk next month... | Jun 06 12:48 |
| schestowitz | Interesting bunch of talks here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DHvCk6_2rk&feature=related | Jun 06 13:05 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- The pros of academic careers .::. Size~: 76.73 KB | Jun 06 13:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oRoQTwac9M | Jun 06 13:37 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- Howard Zinn on Civil Disobedience .::. Size~: 94.53 KB | Jun 06 13:37 |
| schestowitz | How can I verify this is accurate? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgcdRCWEt4Q&feature=related | Jun 06 14:32 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- 1932, A True History of the United States .::. Size~: 107.56 KB | Jun 06 14:32 |
| schestowitz | Seems like a rotten channel | Jun 06 14:42 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/user/laroucheyouth#p/u | Jun 06 14:43 |
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| schestowitz | Loads of anti-bankers, 9/11 'truthers' | Jun 06 14:43 |
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| schestowitz | http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/web/06/02/israel.twitter.youtube/index.html AstroTurfing. Losers. | Jun 06 23:54 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/06/03/twitter-highlights-common-interests-with-new-feature | Jun 07 06:43 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Twitter Highlights Common Interests With New Feature | WebProNews .::. Size~: 46.39 KB | Jun 07 06:43 |
| schestowitz | Skeptoid has a good episode on AU 'UFOs' | Jun 07 06:43 |
| schestowitz | Same stories, distortions come later | Jun 07 06:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itwire.com/science-news/space/39597-ufo-in-australia-explained-falcon-9 | Jun 07 06:44 |
| schestowitz | I'll do some new posts in a moment.... it's rainy and cloudy today, which is, well.... depressing | Jun 07 06:53 |
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| MinceR | r4wr | Jun 07 10:25 |
| oiaohm | It was one of our more borring UFO's. | Jun 07 10:31 |
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| schestowitz | "just for full disclosure - FMueller was paid by Red Hat (and MySQL) in the patent war 2003-2005." | Jun 07 11:23 |
| schestowitz | US xenophobia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gy9h0OHkv4&feature=digest | Jun 07 13:38 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- Phoenix June 5 2010: Arizona Against Illegal Immigration Pt1 .::. Size~: 104.26 KB | Jun 07 13:38 |
| schestowitz | Charlie Rose talk to Hamas (wth?) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HOvmlD54ok&feature=digest | Jun 07 13:49 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- Charlie Rose - Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal .::. Size~: 97.09 KB | Jun 07 13:49 |
| schestowitz | What's next? Al Qaeda | Jun 07 13:49 |
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| schestowitz | "@openuniverse re "now i'm at a complete loss- are we supposed to go webm or mpeg? i'm still thinking webm..." > yes, of course (or Theora)" | Jun 07 16:36 |
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| schestowitz | "Due to botnets hitting the site, some months ago I increased the bandwidth quota of account iuroncom (blueberry), which corresponds to Iuron.com. Can I revert is back to 1GB/month please?" | Jun 07 18:47 |
| schestowitz | I'm paying for Windows botnets | Jun 07 18:47 |
| schestowitz | Those bastards | Jun 07 18:47 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcZaER_5CPw&feature=digest | Jun 07 19:27 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- Making Sex Sell .::. Size~: 106.59 KB | Jun 07 19:27 |
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| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 7 20:28:21 2010 | ||
| *Now talking on #boycottnovell-social | Jun 07 20:28 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell-social for http://TechRights.org | Communication about anything, including Microsoft, Novell, and Free software :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell | Jun 07 20:28 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:20:15 2010 | Jun 07 20:28 | |
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| phIRCe-local | Hello World! I'm phIRCe-local running phIRCe v0.3 | Jun 07 20:32 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 37.46 KB | Jun 07 20:32 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: could you do me a favour and paste in the main channel all the stuff between schestowitz-log departure and re-arrival? | Jun 07 20:37 |
| MinceR | all the stuff that happened in that channel? | Jun 07 20:37 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jun 07 20:38 |
| schestowitz | For the log | Jun 07 20:38 |
| MinceR | ok | Jun 07 20:38 |
| schestowitz | thanks | Jun 07 20:38 |
| MinceR | i'll pastebin it because it's long | Jun 07 20:39 |
| schestowitz | ok | Jun 07 20:39 |
| schestowitz | thanks | Jun 07 20:41 |
| MinceR | np | Jun 07 20:43 |
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| schestowitz | So much workload today | Jun 08 00:33 |
| schestowitz | dOhj goodie... | Jun 08 00:58 |
| schestowitz | SOmeone sent me an article... | Jun 08 00:58 |
| schestowitz | > "Here's a little work I've done showing that Microsoft may be at the bottom of a big creepy electric bill failure. There's an html attachment with links and two pdfs of articles I cite. Have fun." | Jun 08 00:58 |
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| schestowitz | Hmm... Mikkel left academia... http://www2.imm.dtu.dk/~mbs/ | Jun 08 14:18 |
| schestowitz | "NEWS FLASH: My post. doc. was completed in April 2006. I now work at 3Shape. However, my academic pages are still available below. You can contact me at mikkel 'at' stegmann 'dot' dk. " | Jun 08 14:19 |
| schestowitz | Also in Denmark, RA means "assistant professor" | Jun 08 14:19 |
| schestowitz | Here in the UK we get crappy titles like "Reader" | Jun 08 14:19 |
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| schestowitz | http://280.status.net/notice/132272 "yeah, on top of the things people know run it, there are lots of devices (there will be more) where people don't even realize it's in there- routers for example" | Jun 08 17:33 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: حالة menn (openuniverse) في يوم Tuesday, 08-Jun-10 15:21:13 UTC - 280 .::. Size~: 7.95 KB | Jun 08 17:33 |
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| schestowitz | Weirdest phd ceremony ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-vTT02ih5k&NR=1 | Jun 08 23:51 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- My PhD defense .::. Size~: 77.04 KB | Jun 08 23:51 |
| schestowitz | Read the comments | Jun 08 23:51 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQxYPsIA_ZY | Jun 09 10:12 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- Zinn: Bailout is trickle-down theory magnified .::. Size~: 98.19 KB | Jun 09 10:12 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mebqz79O6AA | Jun 09 10:18 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- Howard Zinn on taxes and class war .::. Size~: 96.19 KB | Jun 09 10:18 |
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| schestowitz | http://280.status.net/notice/134253 "but they are more true all the time. i know a 70 year old who can barely tell the difference between windows and gnu/linux, because she uses openoffice on windows, takes digital photos, and uses the internet- it's the same, or close enough" | Jun 09 22:08 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: حالة menn (openuniverse) في يوم Wednesday, 09-Jun-10 17:42:18 UTC - 280 .::. Size~: 8.02 KB | Jun 09 22:08 |
| schestowitz | I tried to convert some people | Jun 09 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Haven't tried much in years | Jun 09 22:08 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/45732 | Jun 10 08:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 10 08:42 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: today's leftovers: | tuxmachines.org .::. Size~: 35.79 KB | Jun 10 08:42 |
| schestowitz | Its PC World. Do you honestly expect their columnists to know anything about open source in detail? | Jun 10 08:42 |
| schestowitz | These are the same kind of folks who continue to promote Anti-Virus use in Windows; despite the fact that all one has to do is to change the way you use Windows to be secure. (ie: Use Software Restriction Policy as a whitelist; and Limited/Standard User. Keep updated with patches and your third-party apps. Only install software from legit/trusted sources...That's it!) | Jun 10 08:42 |
| schestowitz | Think about it: A typical tech journalist/columnist/blogger needs to feed their weekly quota of articles or they don't get paid. | Jun 10 08:42 |
| schestowitz | They know a bit about everything...Which means they really know nothing in great detail or correctness. => "Jack of all trades, master of none." | Jun 10 08:42 |
| schestowitz | Had the author specialise on open source projects and actually did research; he wouldn't make an obvious mistake. | Jun 10 08:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 10 08:43 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y2wmpxM2VQ | Jun 10 10:40 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- Conversations with History: Daniel Ellsberg .::. Size~: 84.83 KB | Jun 10 10:40 |
| MinceR | sadly, many apps simply won't run as Limited/Standard user | Jun 10 11:17 |
| MinceR | and sadly, many apps will need UAC as such a user, and UAC itself is an gaping security hole. | Jun 10 11:17 |
| schestowitz | Made worse in Vista7 | Jun 10 11:27 |
| schestowitz | More permissive | Jun 10 11:27 |
| MinceR | i know | Jun 10 11:49 |
| schestowitz | "You in and around manchester too..thought Manchester was Ubuntu desert.I am over at glossop/work in Stockport" http://identi.ca/conversation/35436253#notice-35638754 | Jun 10 12:07 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 12.33 KB | Jun 10 12:07 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu is growing in the UK | Jun 10 12:07 |
| schestowitz | Maybe .hu too | Jun 10 12:07 |
| schestowitz | I'm gonna write about the eclipse survey | Jun 10 12:07 |
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| MinceR | do we have to propagate crApple advertisements coming from twitter? | Jun 10 15:43 |
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| schestowitz | Let me seee... | Jun 10 18:36 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz i am using debian- well, gnewsense metad- also looking fwd to next version of rmsgnulinux.org"http://identi.ca/conversation/35425006#notice-35683398 | Jun 10 18:36 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.03 KB | Jun 10 18:36 |
| schestowitz | http://rmsgnulinux.org/ | Jun 10 18:38 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: RMS's Mostly Slax GNU/Linux-libre .::. Size~: 4.08 KB | Jun 10 18:38 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/35426603#notice-35684347 | Jun 10 18:38 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.63 KB | Jun 10 18:39 |
| schestowitz | "you were speaking quite literally, i suppose http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_News_Corporation#Internet " | Jun 10 18:39 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: List of assets owned by News Corporation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 72.38 KB | Jun 10 18:39 |
| schestowitz | IDG owns many channels | Jun 10 18:39 |
| schestowitz | All the **World site | Jun 10 18:39 |
| schestowitz | *sites | Jun 10 18:39 |
| schestowitz | And lots beyond | Jun 10 18:39 |
| schestowitz | shall we do a post about "IDG: The Fox News of IT"? | Jun 10 18:40 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I've read the logs. Where is the "crApple advertisements coming from twitter"? | Jun 10 18:52 |
| MinceR | 161948 -BNtwitter:#boycottnovell- [qu1j0t3] >@TuNicaMami Why the fuck does my labtop have to freeze every fucken day // Buy a Mac | Jun 10 19:27 |
| MinceR | 163747 -BNtwitter:#boycottnovell- [qu1j0t3] .@TuNicaMami Easy to find used #Mac? surely the reduced aggravation is worth something. And no viruses. Hand ur old laptop down to a kid | Jun 10 19:28 |
| MinceR | i don't think that relaying these messages to #boycottnovell supports free software, quite the contrary | Jun 10 19:28 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, he flooed it with politics too | Jun 10 19:46 |
| schestowitz | *floods | Jun 10 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Should I add moody instead? | Jun 10 19:50 |
| schestowitz | I wonder.. | Jun 10 19:50 |
| schestowitz | I think I will.. | Jun 10 19:51 |
| schestowitz | Adding FFII | Jun 10 19:53 |
| schestowitz | jwildeboer... | Jun 10 19:54 |
| schestowitz | the swpays folks | Jun 10 19:54 |
| schestowitz | OK, I've made some good changes | Jun 10 20:00 |
| schestowitz | Signal up, noise down | Jun 10 20:00 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3 is out | Jun 10 20:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/boycottnovell | Jun 10 20:03 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Techrights(TR) :: BN (boycottnovell) on Twitter .::. Size~: 29.25 KB | Jun 10 20:03 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 10 20:05 |
| schestowitz | Hehe: http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Why-open-source-developers-should-thank-Apple-1018783.html | Jun 10 20:08 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Why open source developers should thank Apple - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 38.4 KB | Jun 10 20:08 |
| schestowitz | I don't wanna air it anywhere | Jun 10 20:08 |
| MinceR | holy shit | Jun 10 20:09 |
| MinceR | when did h-online sink this low? | Jun 10 20:09 |
| schestowitz | http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/62282 | Jun 10 20:22 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Open Source Developers Should Thank Apple? Did The Police Thank The Mafia? | NetworkWorld.com Community .::. Size~: 87.25 KB | Jun 10 20:22 |
| MinceR | :D | Jun 10 20:23 |
| MinceR | and now it's nautilus' time to go berserk | Jun 10 21:06 |
| MinceR | yay | Jun 10 21:06 |
| MinceR | it flooded X with "icon is not a folder" error messages | Jun 10 21:06 |
| MinceR | apparently coding a file manager that doesn't fucking suck is one hell of a challenge | Jun 10 21:07 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oLvwMxwHFs | Jun 10 21:31 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 303 See Other .::. Size~: 0 KB | Jun 10 21:31 |
| -Martinp23-[Global Notice] Our webchat is experiencing big changes! Channel ops: you may need to fix some of your bans or quiets as a result. All the details can be found at http://bit.ly/ckfqLh and you can get help at any time in #freenode. Thanks for using freenode and have a great day! | Jun 10 21:31 | |
| MinceR | is Patent Absurdity encoded/contained badly or are all my movie players shitty? | Jun 10 21:35 |
| MinceR | almost every time the scene changes the players stop and ponder about what they should be doing | Jun 10 21:35 |
| MinceR | and as they realize that the video is not over, they play choppily | Jun 10 21:36 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it comes in many versions | Jun 10 21:37 |
| schestowitz | high and low quality | Jun 10 21:37 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD1512_XJEw | Jun 10 21:37 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- Search for meaning .::. Size~: 87.71 KB | Jun 10 21:37 |
| MinceR | i grabbed the highest quality ogv over bittorrent | Jun 10 21:38 |
| MinceR | gmplayer actually blasted my ears with max volume binary noise | Jun 10 21:41 |
| MinceR | fucking piece of shit | Jun 10 21:41 |
| schestowitz | YouTube has some Nazi propaganda films | Jun 10 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Full films | Jun 10 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Sort of odd that it's there in some playlist about liberalism | Jun 10 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:41] <MinceR> gmplayer actually blasted my ears with max volume binary noise | Jun 10 21:55 |
| schestowitz | I have that | Jun 10 21:55 |
| schestowitz | *hate | Jun 10 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [sarcasm] behead all media players that do this [/] | Jun 10 21:56 |
| schestowitz | use firefox ogg func | Jun 10 21:58 |
| schestowitz | it works ok in techrights | Jun 10 21:58 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/04/19/patent-absurdity-subtitles-languages/ | Jun 10 21:58 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: “Patent Absurdity” Looks for Translations Amid Lobbying from Florian Müller and Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 104.6 KB | Jun 10 21:58 |
| schestowitz | I could never find out how to make Firefox full-screen the objects | Jun 10 21:58 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjxMYDRMuXs&feature=related | Jun 10 22:09 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- Lars Vilks: "Al Qaeda Won't Stop Me" .::. Size~: 94.31 KB | Jun 10 22:09 |
| schestowitz | The Draw Mo Day was a success | Jun 10 22:09 |
| schestowitz | I didn't even know about this incident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KALudLdC5q8&NR=1 | Jun 10 22:12 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- Al-Jazeera goes to Sweden and interviews Lars Vilks about his "Mohammed-dog" cartoon .::. Size~: 96.46 KB | Jun 10 22:12 |
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| schestowitz | "I am sorry if I came across too strong, I never meant to say that you talk trash about #ubuntu, on the contrary I see you as doing great job for FOSS community. I did not mean you talking trash, because you do not. I meant a lot of people out there that do not know what they are talking about. Please forgive me if I came across like that because I did not mean too. I did not responded before, because your tweet got lost, but | Jun 11 07:07 |
| schestowitz | I read it in #mustard" :-) | Jun 11 07:07 |
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| -NickServ-schestowitz!~schestowi@ has just authenticated as you (schestowitz) | Jun 11 11:01 | |
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| schestowitz | Twitter is IRC over HTTP. We still have the original." true, not my words | Jun 11 12:36 |
| schestowitz | "it's not quite irc anyway, it's more like rss for noobs (i don't at all mind the idea, sometimes it's really nice to use things that were made with noobs in mind)" | Jun 11 12:36 |
| schestowitz | Complementary IMHO | Jun 11 12:36 |
| schestowitz | vhttp://280.status.net/notice/137413 | Jun 11 12:36 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: حالة menn (openuniverse) في يوم Friday, 11-Jun-10 11:19:56 UTC - 280 .::. Size~: 7.83 KB | Jun 11 12:36 |
| schestowitz | http://280.status.net/notice/137413 | Jun 11 12:36 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: حالة menn (openuniverse) في يوم Friday, 11-Jun-10 11:19:56 UTC - 280 .::. Size~: 7.83 KB | Jun 11 12:37 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzmD9GEpdTw | Jun 11 12:56 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- Jon Stewart interviews George Carlin .::. Size~: 105.64 KB | Jun 11 12:56 |
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| schestowitz | Stewart is now taking his place... saying it out loud without the hypocrisy meter going up | Jun 11 14:06 |
| schestowitz | about FLOSS Weekly (I listened to my interview for the first time today):http://identi.ca/conversation/35594624#notice-35790588 "@schestowitz I remember listening to it. I agree that it was very much like an ambush. Jono Bacon's approach sounded very hostile to me." | Jun 11 20:37 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.78 KB | Jun 11 20:37 |
| schestowitz | Dell has not changed its Linux promotion on grounds of security yet....http://identi.ca/conversation/35599214#notice-35798586 "@schestowitz and yet Dell doesn't consistently sell or support Linux on anything other than netbooks and servers." | Jun 11 20:39 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/35619601#notice-35816912 "is it? I would think it adds a layer of frustration. Especially the confusing and oft outdated site info." | Jun 11 23:00 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/35630718#notice-35851565 | Jun 12 07:08 |
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| schestowitz | http://280.status.net/notice/139266 "it's funny, because free software is about freedom, so there's not much room to be apathetic- while open source is about linux- which... shit" | Jun 12 07:08 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: حالة menn (openuniverse) في يوم Saturday, 12-Jun-10 03:12:47 UTC - 280 .::. Size~: 7.92 KB | Jun 12 07:08 |
| schestowitz | "(wow... i hadn't even gotten to the part i wrote- i knew at least one of these rants would be useful someday! thx)" http://identi.ca/notice/new?replyto=openuniverse&inreplyto=35852114 | Jun 12 07:09 |
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| schestowitz | http://280.status.net/notice/139322 "i would take this moment to have a good dig at cnet, but i'm still smiling from their copyright war posts by that most brilliant blogger they ever had- molly someone i think- have to look up the name again- for nakedly mainstream it was as good as it gets" | Jun 12 07:09 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: حالة menn (openuniverse) في يوم Saturday, 12-Jun-10 03:51:48 UTC - 280 .::. Size~: 8.03 KB | Jun 12 07:09 |
| schestowitz | Why is his icon a Ballmer-like baboon? | Jun 12 07:10 |
| schestowitz | "did you see the article @schestowitz did today/yesterday? i wouldn't have said so many great things about it, if i'd already read down to where i'm quoted so much :P (as that would be completely tacky of me)" http://280.status.net/notice/139483 | Jun 12 07:10 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: حالة menn (openuniverse) في يوم Saturday, 12-Jun-10 05:35:00 UTC - 280 .::. Size~: 8.1 KB | Jun 12 07:10 |
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| schestowitz | " | Jun 12 14:10 |
| schestowitz | You may be interested in what Microsoft Partners ixonos and tuxera and co have to say. The panel appears to be a classic M$ stacked panel. The guy with the funky Russian name also has a classic M$ message: | Jun 12 14:10 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ixonos.com/linux_seminar | Jun 12 14:10 |
| schestowitz | If you find the recordings, don't listen with a full stomach. | Jun 12 14:10 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Ixonos Oyj .::. Size~: 31.52 KB | Jun 12 14:10 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 12 14:10 |
| schestowitz | Just sent to me | Jun 12 14:10 |
| schestowitz | "I'll forward you my LinuxTag slides separately. Gave a talk there today. Benjamin Henrion was there as well." -Florian | Jun 12 14:17 |
| schestowitz | "You're such a prolific blogger that it's hard to send you information before you write." | Jun 12 14:24 |
| schestowitz | > Don't miss the photo from the Spiegel article with the two guys | Jun 12 14:33 |
| schestowitz | > holding their little "banner" against software patents with a | Jun 12 14:33 |
| schestowitz | > four-letter word ;-)) Even six years later I still laugh when I see | Jun 12 14:33 |
| schestowitz | > it. I'm not in any of the photos, just quoted in that article. | Jun 12 14:33 |
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| MinceR | i have a bad feeling about this :> | Jun 12 21:39 |
| schestowitz | I know, me too | Jun 12 21:39 |
| schestowitz | I want to see the account firsy | Jun 12 21:39 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 12 21:40 |
| schestowitz | reviewing the content | Jun 12 21:40 |
| schestowitz | *Sigh*: | Jun 12 22:23 |
| schestowitz | [22:04] <sebsebseb> my hostname will be in a log again now, so want that removed :) also there were some past ones where its still in, but don't quite remember where, and so whatever I guess. Anyway got auto reconnect disabled on my client now, so that should take care of that. | Jun 12 22:23 |
| schestowitz | [22:05] <sebsebseb> 10:46am the time | Jun 12 22:23 |
| schestowitz | [22:06] <sebsebseb> of | Jun 12 22:24 |
| schestowitz | [22:06] <sebsebseb> re connect | Jun 12 22:24 |
| MinceR | are hostnames logged at all? | Jun 12 22:41 |
| schestowitz | Not unless people make them public (you cloak) | Jun 12 22:44 |
| MinceR | i know i do but i'm not sure what's the point of publishing them :) | Jun 12 22:46 |
| schestowitz | I could never write a reliable script to strip them from logs | Jun 12 22:53 |
| schestowitz | In 2008 we thought of some modifications | Jun 12 22:54 |
| schestowitz | If you do python you can help | Jun 12 22:54 |
| schestowitz | scanning for hostnames reliable can be tricky | Jun 12 22:54 |
| schestowitz | IP addresses too | Jun 12 22:54 |
| schestowitz | I don't know the regexp | Jun 12 22:54 |
| MinceR | in join/part/quit messages? shouldn't be tricky | Jun 12 23:12 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnP84qNwxIA&feature=digest | Jun 13 07:17 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- USA vs England: The World Cup Game 60 Years in the Making .::. Size~: 110.88 KB | Jun 13 07:17 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQtV4krka50&feature=digest | Jun 13 07:38 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- Bubble replicates .::. Size~: 95.77 KB | Jun 13 07:38 |
| schestowitz | From Finland (just in): | Jun 13 11:10 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 13 11:10 |
| schestowitz | If you look, you'll see ixonos has gotten into aKademy 2010 and will probably behave like Novell and interfering with FOSS projects. Novell has a nasty track record of pushing M$ technologies and trying to hobble Open Standards. To be sure, ixonos does not deviate a hair from the Microsoft partyline, so they will be as toxic as blackduck or Novell. They seem to just use words like 'linux' and 'open source' in their titles. | Jun 13 11:10 |
| schestowitz | Simon Phipps wrote in the last year about wanting to prevent that kind of thing. (c.f. Open == Buy Our Stuff) | Jun 13 11:10 |
| schestowitz | Also in Finland, there was an OOXML scandal on par with the worst of the other countries -- back when M$ was trying to undermine the abilities and reputation of ISO. | Jun 13 11:10 |
| schestowitz | Also, many of the troublesome politicians appear to have violated in the most extreme way campaign financing laws in order to get into Office. There were a lot of grey activities, like posing in makeup ads with the catchline being nearly identical to the later campaign. However, the big violations have to do with companies illegally financing candidates. It is speculated openly that this is in return for favors, since that | Jun 13 11:10 |
| schestowitz | would explain some of the damaging, unpopular decisions and rules put into place by these politicians. | Jun 13 11:10 |
| schestowitz | "" | Jun 13 11:10 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRhvGpRbvUk&feature=digest | Jun 13 11:36 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- Jon Stewart Bigger Than Jesus? (Stephen Colbert & Ayaan Hirsi Ali discuss rationality & religion) .::. Size~: 112.73 KB | Jun 13 11:36 |
| schestowitz | Crappy video of my cousin... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKO4H_MLug8&feature=digest | Jun 13 11:39 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- The-Fitness-To-Go-TV!! .::. Size~: 85.14 KB | Jun 13 11:39 |
| schestowitz | Groklaw puts forth: "IPhone Gets Jump on Rivals With Video Chats, Screen Technology" | Jun 13 11:46 |
| schestowitz | More Apple adverts | Jun 13 11:46 |
| schestowitz | "Did Apple Tell Times to Shove Its App-Takedown Letter?" | Jun 13 11:52 |
| schestowitz | She's defending Apple. I don't understand... | Jun 13 11:52 |
| MinceR | perhaps she bought her way into the cult | Jun 13 11:54 |
| MinceR | or she believes crApple's "open source" bullshit (but i doubt that) | Jun 13 11:54 |
| schestowitz | "Cloud computing saves L.A. millions in IT costs " | Jun 13 11:55 |
| schestowitz | Now 'cloud' promotion too | Jun 13 11:55 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I think she's into the "!microsoft" crowd | Jun 13 11:56 |
| schestowitz | So Apple is fine by her, Google too (always) | Jun 13 11:56 |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 13 11:56 |
| schestowitz | IBM | Jun 13 11:56 |
| schestowitz | Florian wrote to me about it | Jun 13 11:56 |
| schestowitz | He's also not one of those who take sides with brands | Jun 13 11:57 |
| schestowitz | re: "Apple's Worst Security Breach: 114,000 iPad Owners Exposed" | Jun 13 11:57 |
| schestowitz | "[PJ: AT&T has now acknowledged it. So it's their security breach. But look at the amazing list. Why would someone in the military or the White House want a phone with GPS? I find that truly puzzling.]" | Jun 13 11:57 |
| schestowitz | Apple off the hook | Jun 13 11:57 |
| schestowitz | And IBM is perfect to her... a longtime monopoliser | Jun 13 11:57 |
| schestowitz | Nothing good would come out of me confronting her, though | Jun 13 11:58 |
| schestowitz | "PTO teams with Google on database" | Jun 13 11:58 |
| schestowitz | Thanks, Good.... for helping the corrupt system | Jun 13 11:58 |
| schestowitz | Fine by PJ... | Jun 13 11:58 |
| schestowitz | [me pasting from News Picks BTW] | Jun 13 11:58 |
| schestowitz | "[PJ: From the standpoint of trusting AT&T, I think this is actually worse.]" | Jun 13 11:59 |
| schestowitz | Apple off the hook again | Jun 13 11:59 |
| schestowitz | http://www.groklaw.net/newsitems.php?page=2 | Jun 13 11:59 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Groklaw - Digging for Truth .::. Size~: 36.01 KB | Jun 13 11:59 |
| schestowitz | http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100608-714697.html | Jun 13 12:00 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: 2nd UPDATE: US Patent Office Rejects TiVo's Software Claims - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 105.18 KB | Jun 13 12:00 |
| schestowitz | Well, anyhoo | Jun 13 12:00 |
| schestowitz | If the question arises, I will openly say, "Groklaw does not stand up for software freedom" | Jun 13 12:00 |
| schestowitz | "What's in Google's SaaS Contract with the City of Los Angeles? Part One." | Jun 13 12:03 |
| schestowitz | Back in 2006-2009 I mailed her daily | Jun 13 12:04 |
| schestowitz | Helping her post FOSS content many times per day | Jun 13 12:04 |
| schestowitz | Since then it has slown down and she doesn't post Linux/FOSS news (or hardly any) | Jun 13 12:04 |
| schestowitz | Just legal stuff | Jun 13 12:04 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* She posted the "Novell Statement" | Jun 13 12:06 |
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| schestowitz | Lefty has really lost any remaining credibility there, especially with that | Jun 13 16:44 |
| schestowitz | last pathetic outburst about how the very concept of free software "caused" | Jun 13 16:44 |
| schestowitz | ACCESS and himself to deny support to the Gnome F., up to and including his | Jun 13 16:44 |
| schestowitz | "free media training"... | Jun 13 16:44 |
| schestowitz | and no one on there has ever even mentioned his careers in blackmail, | Jun 13 16:44 |
| schestowitz | harassment, pornography and retail sex toy vending... | Jun 13 16:44 |
| schestowitz | ^QUOTE^ [by mail] | Jun 13 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > Re: phrase the email to access as a media query | Jun 13 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > you are a journalist, and you would like access to confirm or deny that their | Jun 13 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > spokesman schlesinger is speaking officially on their behalf in regards to their | Jun 13 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > withdrawal of support for the gnome project, etc | Jun 13 19:04 |
| schestowitz | Re: lefty flames out on the gnome foundation e list | Jun 13 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > Personally, I don't _want_ the Board of the GNOME Foundation spending their | Jun 13 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 13 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > efforts pushing "software freedom": that's the FSF's lookout. As Bastien | Jun 13 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 13 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > notes, people (generally) don't choose software for its "freedom" any more | Jun 13 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 13 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > than people choose chisels based on the dietary habits of the people who | Jun 13 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 13 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > made them. | Jun 13 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 13 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > _I_ want the Board spending their time pushing "getting _better_ open source | Jun 13 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 13 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > software into the hands of _more_ people". If people get "educated" about | Jun 13 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 13 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > "software freedom" (i.e., about the FSF, essentially) but don't use the | Jun 13 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 13 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > software we produce‹either because it compares unfavorably with non-"free" | Jun 13 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 13 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > alternatives, or simply because they _can't_‹then the Board has, in my view, | Jun 13 19:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 13 19:05 |
| schestowitz | > utterly failed. | Jun 13 19:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 13 19:05 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.mail-archive.com/foundation-list@gnome.org/msg04946.html | Jun 13 19:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 13 19:05 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Re: question for candidates .::. Size~: 8.67 KB | Jun 13 19:05 |
| schestowitz | > Let me be very frank with you, Xav: this sort of behavior was definitely a | Jun 13 19:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 13 19:05 |
| schestowitz | > contributing factor to ACCESS' leaving the Advisory Board this past January, | Jun 13 19:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 13 19:05 |
| schestowitz | > and for our lack of sponsorship for GUADEC this year and last. It was a | Jun 13 19:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 13 19:05 |
| schestowitz | > directly contributing factor to my rescinding my offer to provide media | Jun 13 19:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 13 19:05 |
| schestowitz | > training for potential GNOME spokespeople at GUADEC this summer. | Jun 13 19:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 13 19:05 |
| schestowitz | > Well played, Xav. Well played. | Jun 13 19:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 13 19:05 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.mail-archive.com/foundation-list@gnome.org/msg04876.html | Jun 13 19:05 |
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| MinceR | who did _goblin had drama with? | Jun 13 21:26 |
| schestowitz | ender | Jun 13 21:27 |
| schestowitz | in his blog | Jun 13 21:27 |
| MinceR | what was it about? | Jun 13 21:28 |
| schestowitz | Check out pwnage.ca | Jun 13 21:28 |
| schestowitz | See comments | Jun 13 21:28 |
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| schestowitz | Heh. My cousin's cousin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtWF81LayHc | Jun 14 01:14 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- Brett Ratner on HBO's Entourage .::. Size~: 84.43 KB | Jun 14 01:14 |
| schestowitz | His work..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g6mL1FyfOA | Jun 14 01:39 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- Brett Ratner's Bollywood Remix .::. Size~: 96.3 KB | Jun 14 01:39 |
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| schestowitz | "@schestowitz "K Desktop Environment" hasn't been used since ages... it's simply KDE now" http://identi.ca/conversation/35886725#notice-36135730 | Jun 14 06:41 |
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| schestowitz | They always do this | Jun 14 06:42 |
| schestowitz | KDE is offended if you say z "K Desktop Environment" | Jun 14 06:42 |
| schestowitz | "superb coverage of w/ everyone's bitching about- i learned a lot, considering i haven't tried new ubuntu (would prefer a free software version- tried trisquel 4.0, great so far) - plus 2nd article par 3 complains "use of @jargon" - not anymore, from what i heard :)" http://280.status.net/notice/143466 | Jun 14 06:42 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: حالة menn (openuniverse) في يوم Monday, 14-Jun-10 05:14:14 UTC - 280 .::. Size~: 8.17 KB | Jun 14 06:42 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/35897839#notice-36138650 "assuming the open source crowd doesn't pointy-haired-boss it to death" | Jun 14 06:43 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.5 KB | Jun 14 06:43 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/35944873#notice-36148829 "@schestowitz me too... i was just saying it's unique stuff that i haven't seen him mention even though i read two of his books" | Jun 14 08:50 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.98 KB | Jun 14 08:50 |
| schestowitz | I like this guy... he's right on target | Jun 14 08:51 |
| schestowitz | re " i'm feeling around the links for any groklaw url and i can't find one, i've looked twice" it's News Picks (no permalink) | Jun 14 08:51 |
| oiaohm | I have a interesting question were MS Office 2007 trials offered as downloads? | Jun 14 09:00 |
| oiaohm | Because 2010 ones are being offered. | Jun 14 09:00 |
| schestowitz | I mostly ignore these | Jun 14 09:30 |
| schestowitz | Should I? | Jun 14 09:30 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: I mean, I see lots of MSO news | Jun 14 09:30 |
| schestowitz | I mostly ignore it | Jun 14 09:30 |
| schestowitz | I don't find much stuff that's possible to criticise | Jun 14 09:31 |
| schestowitz | Except OOXML | Jun 14 09:31 |
| schestowitz | Predatory pricing maybe | Jun 14 09:31 |
| oiaohm | The question is more trend. | Jun 14 09:31 |
| schestowitz | Office money declines | Jun 14 09:31 |
| schestowitz | 6% in last qtr | Jun 14 09:31 |
| schestowitz | And compared to deflationary yeat | Jun 14 09:31 |
| schestowitz | *year | Jun 14 09:31 |
| oiaohm | In the past it was a extra feature us OEM had to push products. | Jun 14 09:32 |
| oiaohm | Ie putting trial versions on. | Jun 14 09:32 |
| oiaohm | Now its looking like it will become open to everyone. | Jun 14 09:32 |
| oiaohm | Next thing is fully operational trials makes pirating simpler. | Jun 14 09:35 |
| oiaohm | And safer for pirates. | Jun 14 09:35 |
| schestowitz | I see... | Jun 14 09:37 |
| oiaohm | Basically I see it as desporate actions. | Jun 14 09:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/09/list-of-women-friend.html | Jun 14 12:13 |
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| schestowitz | IDG links to goatse *LOL* http://www.pcworld.com/article/198634/ipad_email_hackers_claim_they_havent_broken_the_law.html?tk=rss_news | Jun 14 12:41 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: iPad E-mail Hackers Claim They Haven't Broken the Law - PCWorld .::. Size~: 69.97 KB | Jun 14 12:41 |
| schestowitz | "In my blog post on OpenForum Europe you'll see that I link to 5 of the 7 or so articles you had shown me about Red Hat." -Florian | Jun 14 13:06 |
| schestowitz | http://wonkette.com/415838/did-sarah-palin-buy-herself-a-couple-of-luxury-items | Jun 14 14:07 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Wonkette : Did Sarah Palin Buy Herself a Couple of Luxury Items? .::. Size~: 234.58 KB | Jun 14 14:07 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/10/palin_job/ | Jun 14 14:08 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Sarah Palin 'boob job' debate dominates US right - and left • The Register .::. Size~: 29.22 KB | Jun 14 14:08 |
| schestowitz | She got close to being president | Jun 14 14:09 |
| schestowitz | Says a lot about the state of the States | Jun 14 14:09 |
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| schestowitz | :-( "Depends what u mean by "just works"-if basic CPU use, win "just works" from fresh install sans upgrade & driver search" [..] "U r not going to tell me that that's hardly the case for laptops. Ex: multimedia keys, heat issues--even ubuntu is a problem" | Jun 14 14:35 |
| schestowitz | Is it really that bad with notebooks? I'm a desktop person........ | Jun 14 14:36 |
| MinceR | not really | Jun 14 14:37 |
| MinceR | multimedia keys and cooling tends to work out of the box | Jun 14 14:37 |
| MinceR | suspend/hibernate can be problematic, but i suspect that's due to the buggy Nvidia driver | Jun 14 14:38 |
| schestowitz | "buggy Nvidia driver..." | Jun 14 15:05 |
| schestowitz | I can think of a nice cartoon to make out of these 3 words... | Jun 14 15:05 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/35973391#notice-36196629 "i guess the trick there is, how would you manage an impartial trial against unknown foreigners found in international waters, accused of violently killing (as opposed to the other kind of killing) people? who even gets jurisdiction, the country with the most victims?" | Jun 14 15:23 |
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| MinceR | lol | Jun 14 15:25 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz akamai... why does that name ring synonymous with evil? spy cookies? it's something like that, right?" http://identi.ca/conversation/35980439#notice-36198050 | Jun 14 16:22 |
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| schestowitz | is this true??? | Jun 14 16:22 |
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| schestowitz | Some guy called Larry Rubinoff feeds techrights with news we use for finance... | Jun 14 19:07 |
| schestowitz | in a GOldman Sachs site,... | Jun 14 19:07 |
| schestowitz | Just had a surgery | Jun 14 19:07 |
| schestowitz | "Larry, I read and widely share all the links posted here in "GS Watch", including the daily summaries in particular. Thanks for the hard work you do and best wishes for a fast recovery." | Jun 14 19:07 |
| schestowitz | The Internet is extremely valuable in the way it allows people to share resources that are experts in | Jun 14 19:07 |
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| MinceR | now it's popey's turn to advertise crApple over twatter | Jun 15 14:59 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I saw this before I read your messag | Jun 15 16:43 |
| schestowitz | *e | Jun 15 16:43 |
| schestowitz | I was at the gym today | Jun 15 16:43 |
| schestowitz | Been weird recently... 5 hours sleep today, 4 the day before that, sunny day at last | Jun 15 16:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/14/linux_windows_xp_clone/ | Jun 15 16:54 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Ubuntu-based Windows XP looker freshens up • The Register .::. Size~: 28.59 KB | Jun 15 16:54 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft said it would not sue it | Jun 15 16:54 |
| schestowitz | I reckon Microsoft Gavin wants to make it look like Linux just copies | Jun 15 16:55 |
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| schestowitz | Hi | Jun 15 17:24 |
| schestowitz | I need to ask a US citizen | Jun 15 17:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | Hi Roy | Jun 15 17:25 |
| schestowitz | About immigration law | Jun 15 17:25 |
| schestowitz | Just got this from the FSF: | Jun 15 17:25 |
| schestowitz | > Hi Roy, | Jun 15 17:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 15 17:25 |
| schestowitz | > I understand you were a European citizen. Do you have US residency or | Jun 15 17:25 |
| schestowitz | > other avenue for working legally in the US? Unfortunately, we are not | Jun 15 17:25 |
| schestowitz | > able to sponsor a visa for this position. | Jun 15 17:25 |
| schestowitz | Hi Peter! | Jun 15 17:25 |
| schestowitz | My nationality is German and I have many relatives in the US; I am not qualified to get US citizenship though, just British (if I choose to). | Jun 15 17:25 |
| schestowitz | === | Jun 15 17:25 |
| schestowitz | my question: | Jun 15 17:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | well, I am not an expert, but maybe know a little | Jun 15 17:25 |
| schestowitz | what is the law for EU citizens when it comes to employment? | Jun 15 17:25 |
| schestowitz | Cause my sister worked in the US | Jun 15 17:25 |
| schestowitz | And I think for a limited period of time a normal employment contract is possible | Jun 15 17:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | I have relatives that are from the Philiphines | Jun 15 17:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | Vista should be easy from the UK or Germany | Jun 15 17:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | not sure about work permits | Jun 15 17:27 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | *Visa | Jun 15 17:27 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | applying for a green card once you are here, is a possiblity | Jun 15 17:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | not sure though | Jun 15 17:28 |
| schestowitz | I see.. | Jun 15 17:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | your sister can sponser you to come over, but that probably takes a lot of time, depending on quota's from you country | Jun 15 17:29 |
| schestowitz | So it's not trivial, either | Jun 15 17:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | it was 6 years that way from the Philiphines | Jun 15 17:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | probably lots less though from UK | Jun 15 17:29 |
| schestowitz | It's amazing that moving _to_ the US becomes a peril | Jun 15 17:29 |
| schestowitz | It's not as though the economy there is in the sky | Jun 15 17:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | there are no health benifits here, and won't be for 4 years for most people | Jun 15 17:30 |
| schestowitz | Baby boomers | Jun 15 17:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | I know someone from UK I could ask | Jun 15 17:31 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | that might know more | Jun 15 17:31 |
| schestowitz | I reckon it won't matter much | Jun 15 17:31 |
| schestowitz | But anyway, the FSF was in touch... | Jun 15 17:31 |
| schestowitz | It's nothing too important | Jun 15 17:31 |
| schestowitz | It's just that if I worked at a limited capacity at the FSF, I would be able to pay the bills | Jun 15 17:32 |
| schestowitz | While promoting something ethical | Jun 15 17:32 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | yes, that would be nice | Jun 15 17:32 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | it might be easier than you think to move here | Jun 15 17:32 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | from Britain or Germany | Jun 15 17:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | and if you have a paying job to come here with, that helps too | Jun 15 17:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | working permit, and those foreign workers that MS hires permits, forgot exactly the name for those | Jun 15 17:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | Once you get in, if you can apply for a Green Card, you can get citizenship in 7 years | Jun 15 17:36 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | its easier than getting it in the UK | Jun 15 17:36 |
| schestowitz | I see... | Jun 15 17:38 |
| schestowitz | I'll write back to him | Jun 15 17:38 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | I would hate to see this site stop. But I would not deny you your life either. | Jun 15 17:39 |
| schestowitz | "My sister previously worked in the US without much hassle. I can't recall how the Green Card process worked for her, but it was easier than she had imagined (she is also a software engineer)." | Jun 15 17:40 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy_: I'd like to find ways of doing both | Jun 15 17:40 |
| schestowitz | The site won't stop soon, I'm not worried | Jun 15 17:41 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | good | Jun 15 17:41 |
| schestowitz | I managed to prolong my Ph.D. by 3 years | Jun 15 17:41 |
| schestowitz | That alone gave me tons of time | Jun 15 17:41 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | I will ask my friend if he knows how to do this | Jun 15 17:41 |
| schestowitz | The only regret I have is working from my office for too long rather than from home | Jun 15 17:41 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | A trip to the US Ebassy is free, and can give some advice | Jun 15 17:42 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy_: thanks, let me know if you can. I have lots of family there too, so I could find out myself | Jun 15 17:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | probably a long stand in line too | Jun 15 17:42 |
| schestowitz | But my family is mostly in the south | Jun 15 17:42 |
| schestowitz | FSF -> Boston | Jun 15 17:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | I have some family that moved south to retire too | Jun 15 17:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | hold on I will make a phone call and ask | Jun 15 17:43 |
| schestowitz | thanks a lot | Jun 15 17:46 |
| schestowitz | But I mailed the FSF back | Jun 15 17:46 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | well, what he says is about the little I know | Jun 15 17:48 |
| schestowitz | Thanks! | Jun 15 17:48 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | except he says a working visa is a green card | Jun 15 17:48 |
| schestowitz | I guess I'll wait and see what they say | Jun 15 17:48 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | and that you need either money, or someone to sponse you for a year, like a close relative | Jun 15 17:48 |
| schestowitz | I never intended to work for the FSF, but as I said, if I can be paid for something that's a good cause, then it's worth it | Jun 15 17:48 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy_: yes, they know I have family there | Jun 15 17:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | yes, well worth looking into more (google perhaps?) | Jun 15 17:49 |
| schestowitz | Sponsorship would not be an issue for me. | Jun 15 17:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | The FSF probably would have some information for you as well, if they are wanting to hire you | Jun 15 17:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | ask them | Jun 15 17:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | The relative has to sponser for one or two years, which means support if necessary, finacially | Jun 15 17:51 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | if you go that route | Jun 15 17:51 |
| schestowitz | That would be OK, I'm close to them | Jun 15 17:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | then there are many how come over here, with just regular visa's and find true love and marriage and get to stay that way, lol | Jun 15 17:52 |
| schestowitz | But I think the FSF won't want any hassles | Jun 15 17:52 |
| schestowitz | Florian: | Jun 15 17:52 |
| schestowitz | > I sent him a link to your article and his reaction is very honorable: he | Jun 15 17:52 |
| schestowitz | > admits that your criticisms of his work are well-founded and he says the | Jun 15 17:52 |
| schestowitz | > problem with blogging is that one doesn't have an editor who proofreads | Jun 15 17:52 |
| schestowitz | > and checks, so some mistakes happen without getting corrected by someone | Jun 15 17:52 |
| schestowitz | > else. | Jun 15 17:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 15 17:52 |
| schestowitz | > This suggests to me that his intentions are good. | Jun 15 17:52 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I like Dana's writings even when I criticised the odd pieces that I disgaree with. | Jun 15 17:52 |
| schestowitz | BTW, pls tell me when the MPEG-LA gem is 'unsealed' so to speak. I have a draft of it. | Jun 15 17:52 |
| schestowitz | ->I've formed a good relationship with Florian. Groklaw has begun pissing us off a little | Jun 15 17:52 |
| schestowitz | [17:52] <Chips_B_Malroy_> then there are many how come over here, with just regular visa's and find true love and marriage and get to stay that way, lol | Jun 15 17:53 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Jun 15 17:53 |
| schestowitz | Starting family early for conveniece with job is not too smart | Jun 15 17:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | yes, I just put that up as a joke | Jun 15 17:54 |
| schestowitz | I know people who did this though | Jun 15 17:54 |
| schestowitz | Even fake marriages | Jun 15 17:54 |
| schestowitz | Won't be long till people can marry pets in the US | Jun 15 17:55 |
| schestowitz | :-/ | Jun 15 17:55 |
| schestowitz | Marry an American cow (no, not a fat lady) | Jun 15 17:55 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy_: pls don't mention this in main channel | Jun 15 18:00 |
| schestowitz | It would feed the trolls | Jun 15 18:00 |
| schestowitz | I'm not connected to FSF | Jun 15 18:00 |
| schestowitz | And I don't want to make it seem that way, either (cause it's not true) | Jun 15 18:00 |
| schestowitz | I have some trolls/stalkers who use sometimes my avatar with horns combing the IRC logs for 'dirt' | Jun 15 18:01 |
| schestowitz | "I'm writing to you now from the Free Software Foundation headquarters! Today is my first day on the job as a campaigns intern." http://blog.thesilentnumber.me/2010/06/my-first-day-at-fsf.html | Jun 15 18:02 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The Silent Number: My first day at the FSF! .::. Size~: 100.81 KB | Jun 15 18:02 |
| schestowitz | "Congrats to @webmink for bringing software freedom to the OSI -- http://ur1.ca/07iuq !fsf !gnu" http://identi.ca/notice/36208717 | Jun 15 18:03 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy_ | sorry, Roy, i got my channels confused with that one comment | Jun 15 18:04 |
| schestowitz | I'm not an FSF person | Jun 15 18:06 |
| schestowitz | I sometimes disagree with them | Jun 15 18:06 |
| schestowitz | The worst thing is being lumped together w/ people you often agree with | Jun 15 18:06 |
| schestowitz | Everyone takes a synthesis of ideas from many places | Jun 15 18:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | yes, its called preaching to the choir | Jun 15 18:07 |
| schestowitz | I did learn that many things are rotten and had the freedom to rant about them in front of many people, that's just what I did | Jun 15 18:07 |
| schestowitz | [18:07] <Chips_B_Malroy_> yes, its called preaching to the choir | Jun 15 18:07 |
| schestowitz | No, that's something elese | Jun 15 18:07 |
| schestowitz | *else | Jun 15 18:07 |
| schestowitz | example: | Jun 15 18:08 |
| schestowitz | joe: "I like Linux" | Jun 15 18:08 |
| schestowitz | jane: "you are a linus torvalds fan" | Jun 15 18:08 |
| schestowitz | joe: "no, this Linux is just good for work" | Jun 15 18:08 |
| schestowitz | jane: "you only think about money" | Jun 15 18:08 |
| schestowitz | ... | Jun 15 18:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | still articles are needed, so they can be linked to, as I and Goblin did with our comments at MS Watch in the old days | Jun 15 18:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | for that the choir is needed | Jun 15 18:09 |
| schestowitz | Yes, it improves over time | Jun 15 18:09 |
| schestowitz | I no longer need to explain the "Microsoft hater" label | Jun 15 18:09 |
| schestowitz | I just link to 4 posts about this subject | Jun 15 18:09 |
| schestowitz | And move on | Jun 15 18:09 |
| schestowitz | Same for Gates, "piracy" as just dumping, etc. | Jun 15 18:09 |
| schestowitz | I don't kick a dead horse, I link to it and deal only with what's new | Jun 15 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Early site posts were boring and noting the basics | Jun 15 18:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | have you notice that everyone is a "Microsoft hater" (well Ballmer hater anyway) lately in the blogs? | Jun 15 18:10 |
| schestowitz | It's tiring for me and also for readers to reread the same arguments | Jun 15 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy_: when everyone is a "Microsoft hater", it's normalised | Jun 15 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Then it's hip and accetable | Jun 15 18:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | so many Ballmer must go posts now that MS fell below Apple | Jun 15 18:11 |
| schestowitz | Like in "Draw Mohammad day" | Jun 15 18:11 |
| schestowitz | When 10,000 draw him all at once, they don't get death threats | Jun 15 18:11 |
| schestowitz | There's just too many of them, like a DDOS of "blasphemy" | Jun 15 18:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | that those posts now make MS hating acceptable | Jun 15 18:11 |
| schestowitz | I warned about Apple for years | Jun 15 18:12 |
| schestowitz | It's good cause I accumulated evidence of their malice | Jun 15 18:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | M$ PR cannot stop the bad press now | Jun 15 18:12 |
| schestowitz | I have Wiki pages with collection of these | Jun 15 18:12 |
| schestowitz | So I was forarmed | Jun 15 18:12 |
| schestowitz | *foearmed | Jun 15 18:12 |
| schestowitz | *forearmed | Jun 15 18:12 |
| schestowitz | [18:12] <Chips_B_Malroy_> M$ PR cannot stop the bad press now | Jun 15 18:12 |
| schestowitz | They can't get press | Jun 15 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Too little in headlines | Jun 15 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Nothing about Windoiws | Jun 15 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Lots of iP* | Jun 15 18:13 |
| schestowitz | I do pattern searching in news | Jun 15 18:13 |
| schestowitz | It's amazing how many articles touch on Apple | Jun 15 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes more than Microsoft's | Jun 15 18:13 |
| schestowitz | But.. | Jun 15 18:13 |
| schestowitz | That's English news | Jun 15 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Different story in other langs | Jun 15 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Portuguese has FOSS | Jun 15 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Africa has no Apple... | Jun 15 18:13 |
| schestowitz | And so on... | Jun 15 18:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | Apple is still only a niche on the desktop, but a rich one. Once an OEM will finially promote and pre-install an Open OS that competes with Apple, then Mac is in trouble | Jun 15 18:13 |
| schestowitz | The worst for Apple is to lose visibility | Jun 15 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Then people will no longer perceive them as "industry standard" | Jun 15 18:14 |
| schestowitz | [18:13] <Chips_B_Malroy_> Apple is still only a niche on the desktop, but a rich one. Once an OEM will finially promote and pre-install an Open OS that competes with Apple, then Mac is in trouble | Jun 15 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Africa=2nd hand PCs, free windows/linux, local servicemen | Jun 15 18:14 |
| schestowitz | No money for h/w and s/w makers | Jun 15 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Work for booters, malware 'experts', WEEE recyclers | Jun 15 18:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | Jobs is greedy. At some point, he will go after the 90% of the laptop market in the USA that MS Windows still controls, Ipad was just the forerunner of this effort. Arm will be the vehicle for Jobs to do this. Only Linux and Android/Chrome stand in his way. | Jun 15 18:16 |
| schestowitz | Not KIN? :-D | Jun 15 18:17 |
| schestowitz | Kill KIN Bill shill kinsecy | Jun 15 18:17 |
| MinceR | KIN must be KÍN in hungarian (meaning TORMENT) | Jun 15 18:18 |
| MinceR | (the noun) | Jun 15 18:18 |
| schestowitz | It's a small device | Jun 15 18:19 |
| schestowitz | Users can shove it up their thing as torture | Jun 15 18:19 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 15 18:19 |
| schestowitz | Well, that's where it belongs | Jun 15 18:19 |
| schestowitz | It's a piece of s* | Jun 15 18:19 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | Windows CD/Moblie/Kin/Phone7 whatever its called today, is deader than a door nail. Everyone with half a brain knows that, except Steve Ballmer. So why continue with it? Because its all MS has to compete with Linux/Android on Cheap ARM computers coming out. Which protects the cash cow windows. XP cannot saveMS this time, as it does not run on ARM. | Jun 15 18:20 |
| schestowitz | Zune spinoff. Remember what colour Zune originally came in | Jun 15 18:20 |
| schestowitz | I lost track of Mobile 7 | Jun 15 18:20 |
| schestowitz | They renamed it twice recently | Jun 15 18:20 |
| schestowitz | Not Sidekick/KIN | Jun 15 18:20 |
| schestowitz | They moved the Windows and added "Phone" IIRC | Jun 15 18:21 |
| schestowitz | Mary Jo Ballmer wrote about it | Jun 15 18:21 |
| schestowitz | They have branding innovations but they need developers | Jun 15 18:21 |
| schestowitz | They flock to Google (Android) and Apple ATM | Jun 15 18:21 |
| schestowitz | They can't bribe 100,000 developers | Jun 15 18:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | Well, MS is trying to separate CE into PHONE and Smartbooks OS | Jun 15 18:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | but the CE versions for ARM Smartbooks has few if any, apps for those types of devices. Its basically for cellphones, not a desktop. | Jun 15 18:23 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | Even Ebayers reject Windows CE | Jun 15 18:23 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | on a Smartbook | Jun 15 18:23 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | Just like Xbox360 is making consumers mad, with its failures, so will those who buy CE on a ARM Smartbook be mad at MS. | Jun 15 18:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | MS might get the sale, at a net loss of profit, but it creates a dissatisfied custormer. | Jun 15 18:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | Which in turns creates bad word of mouth to others about MS products, and people who will go out of their way to buy anything but MS. | Jun 15 18:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | Ballmer probably only thing short term like a used car salesman. This is why MS peddles products so clearly either defective or substandard to purpose. | Jun 15 18:27 |
| Chips_B_Malroy_ | *thinks | Jun 15 18:27 |
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| schestowitz | "Yes, your story is fair | Jun 15 19:52 |
| schestowitz | "You're entitled to a critical perspective on what I did with the Munich Linux project years ago. I think it was the right thing to draw attention to the software patent issue and not too risky, but of course one can come down on the other side. | Jun 15 19:52 |
| schestowitz | "Your story on the Groklaw controversy is clearly balanced and I hope a lot of Groklaw readers will appreciate the effort you made to represent both sides of the argument. | Jun 15 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu one step closer to dropping Mono | Jun 15 19:59 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzk8x36Ezys&feature=related | Jun 15 20:41 |
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| schestowitz | Stupid creationists running US TV: Phipps leads change at Open Source Initiative | Jun 15 20:58 |
| schestowitz | Oops. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu-aGbVxt-0&NR=1 | Jun 15 20:58 |
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| schestowitz | part 1: | Jun 15 21:06 |
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| schestowitz | What a buffoon the host is | Jun 15 21:06 |
| schestowitz | Nutters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvVCpJCTM5w | Jun 15 21:08 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XpduCghJBo&NR=1 | Jun 15 21:21 |
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| schestowitz | "I try not to think with my gut" :-) | Jun 15 21:23 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQOxvTKKpOg&NR=1 | Jun 15 21:25 |
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| ender2070 | Er, what on earth are you talking about? Have you blown up the buildings of any proprietary software vendors lately? | Jun 15 22:42 |
| ender2070 | http://twitter.com/stonemirror/status/16250689298 | Jun 15 22:42 |
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| schestowitz | > I gather jack schofield is not very | Jun 16 13:28 |
| schestowitz | > happy with your post about him, you might want | Jun 16 13:28 |
| schestowitz | > to check it for anything libellous... | Jun 16 13:28 |
| schestowitz | There's a recent post where I made a correction. Did he say anything? | Jun 16 13:28 |
| schestowitz | > @schestowitz didn't Maverick just default to banshee? If mono removal is the goal that would seem counter. | Jun 16 13:29 |
| schestowitz | it hasn't, as far as I know. | Jun 16 13:29 |
| schestowitz | Here in the UK we have a messed up libel law | Jun 16 13:29 |
| schestowitz | http://olivier-mejean.fr/WordPress/?p=87 | Jun 16 13:43 |
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| schestowitz | ms jack: | Jun 16 16:05 |
| schestowitz | > He dm'd me: says he reported accurately. Maybe worth contacting him | Jun 16 16:05 |
| schestowitz | > directly... | Jun 16 16:05 |
| schestowitz | He is right in this case. Someone mailed me false info I foolishly published, later corrected it. | Jun 16 16:05 |
| schestowitz | > I've put your talk on our wiki and blog (including the calendar): | Jun 16 22:23 |
| schestowitz | > http://groups.fsf.org/wiki/Manchester/Meetings#2010 | Jun 16 22:23 |
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| schestowitz | > http://groups.fsf.org/wiki/Manchester/2010-07-20 | Jun 16 22:23 |
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| schestowitz | > http://manchester.fsuk.org/blog/ | Jun 16 22:23 |
| schestowitz | Thanks. I'll do that near that time. | Jun 16 22:23 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 16 22:23 |
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| schestowitz | We'll do advertising through mailing lists and social networking sites | Jun 16 22:23 |
| schestowitz | but if you could also do your best to advertise it that would be | Jun 16 22:23 |
| schestowitz | appreciated. | Jun 16 22:23 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 16 22:23 |
| schestowitz | I haven't even prepared the talk yet | Jun 16 22:23 |
| schestowitz | on noes | Jun 16 22:35 |
| schestowitz | yuhong | Jun 16 22:35 |
| schestowitz | I'm gone | Jun 16 22:35 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/BCSManchester/statuses/16333915446 | Jun 16 22:41 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Twitter / BCS Manchester: Manchester FSUK: Tuesday, ... .::. Size~: 11.43 KB | Jun 16 22:41 |
| schestowitz | Interesting talk you might like, MinceR, ender2070: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g1k5rK7bWI | Jun 16 23:01 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMyStgExX18 | Jun 16 23:15 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- Ann Druyan Interview -smaller but with better quality 5 .::. Size~: 76.8 KB | Jun 16 23:15 |
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| schestowitz |  | Jun 17 11:29 |
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| schestowitz | Nutter goes on the call | Jun 17 11:29 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjgh7uoGxEQ&feature=related | Jun 17 11:29 |
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| schestowitz | I'm being drowned here | Jun 17 21:15 |
| schestowitz | I hate it when I get overloaded, and all sorts of stupid e-mail pointers again | Jun 17 21:15 |
| schestowitz | It's so hot here that I start sweating too... arghhhhhhhhhh! :-) | Jun 17 21:15 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jun 17 21:16 |
| MinceR | at least you don't run around shouting "DEVELOPERS!" over and over ;) | Jun 17 21:17 |
| ender2070 | hahahaha | Jun 17 21:18 |
| schestowitz | I have no A/C here | Jun 17 21:20 |
| schestowitz | I just take more showers | Jun 17 21:20 |
| schestowitz | Just had the third one today... | Jun 17 21:20 |
| schestowitz | No posts in techrights today | Jun 17 21:20 |
| schestowitz | I'd better get aroudn to it | Jun 17 21:20 |
| ender2070 | a third shower? | Jun 17 21:23 |
| ender2070 | omg | Jun 17 21:23 |
| ender2070 | carbon footprintz! | Jun 17 21:23 |
| ender2070 | ;) | Jun 17 21:23 |
| MinceR | treating conditions caused by overheating has a carbon footprint too | Jun 17 21:25 |
| ender2070 | everything does | Jun 17 21:26 |
| ender2070 | thats the beauty of it | Jun 17 21:26 |
| schestowitz | My contract has water prepaid | Jun 17 21:49 |
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| schestowitz | People start to understand better http://identi.ca/conversation/36515994#notice-36779392 | Jun 18 06:58 |
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| schestowitz | > I did a search tonight for a text rendered (OCR'd) copy of Microsoft | Jun 18 07:00 |
| schestowitz | > PX-3096.pdf, Microsoft's effective evangelism. There, I found the first | Jun 18 07:00 |
| schestowitz | > several pages (wanted the whole document) as text. Then after going to | Jun 18 07:00 |
| schestowitz | > the blog prefix: | Jun 18 07:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 18 07:00 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.igetitmusic.com/blog/ | Jun 18 07:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 18 07:00 |
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| schestowitz | > found out it is Mr. Plamondon's website. I don't know why he has gone | Jun 18 07:00 |
| schestowitz | > into music. Perhaps there are reasonable reasons and he has changed his | Jun 18 07:00 |
| schestowitz | > ways. Personally I am open but a little leery of such a prospect. | Jun 18 07:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 18 07:00 |
| schestowitz | > Oh, I noticed the trolls have been hitting COLA hot and heavy. I think | Jun 18 07:00 |
| schestowitz | > the mothership must be on its last legs. | Jun 18 07:00 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I know about Jams changing careers. The monsters he created and trained are still out there. | Jun 18 07:00 |
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| schestowitz | > To all, tonight I posted perhaps a bold ascertain against this Flatfish | Jun 18 07:37 |
| schestowitz | > character: | Jun 18 07:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > [quote] | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > Moshe wrote: | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | >> High Plains Thumper wrote: | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | >>> Why do you have such a fascination with mjcr's statement? | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | >> I asked you [snip rest of troll rant] | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > Oh, really? For one Gary, I don't think you have the personal guts to | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > attempt to prosecute me. It would reveal who you are, which you in such | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > a manner are very proud of, thinking you are immune to any recourse. | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > [/quote] | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8c23d912a35af1a7 | Jun 18 07:38 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Linux users can get malware, too - comp.os.linux.advocacy | Google Groups .::. Size~: 35.66 KB | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > Flatfish's reply is rather wimpish. | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > It is unfortunate that mjcr received a verbal or written threat against | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > his life or that of his family. I don't scare that easily. | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > This Gary character is plainly a criminal. It would not surprise me if | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > he tries something truly stupid, that contributes to his final demise. | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > To these trolls, Microsoft is their religion. | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > I have noticed that all 5 of us are in their cross hairs. Because we | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > like and believe in Linux? And express that belief? Yes. Linux is a | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > far superior product to Microsoft Windows. | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > And Roy, that bit about Flatfish working for Amdahl then IBM, cross | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > dressing, I saw that you used in your blog with the cross out font but | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > left it. It would not surprise me if there was a thread of truth in it. | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > If I happen to receive something, communication or otherwise outside of | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > channels that appears to be from Flatfish, I will forward that to you. | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | > However, I doubt I would ever receive anything, it would give him away. | Jun 18 07:38 |
| schestowitz | trolls weather forecast: | Jun 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | Yes, and they are out there in full force. In contrast and for | Jun 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | advocacy, one post surprised me from Megabyte, which sometimes AFAIK | Jun 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | appears to be a troll, had this to say about OpenOffice: | Jun 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | [quote] | Jun 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | On 10-06-15 12:27 PM, Moshe wrote: | Jun 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | > > On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:24:40 GMT, Megabyte wrote: | Jun 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | > > | Jun 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | >> >> Actually I think this is good news for FOSS. If someone running a | Jun 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | >> >> proprietary OS begins to run OpenOffice, Firefox\Chrome and | Jun 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | >> >> Thunderbird their eventual switch to Linux will be that much easier. | Jun 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | > > | Jun 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | > > Huh? | Jun 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | Given the number of people running OO, if the majority run it on a | Jun 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | proprietary OS this means they have taken the first step in moving | Jun 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | towards FOSS, and away from the proprietary alternative MS Office. Once | Jun 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | you are using FOSS applications, the switch to a FOSS OS is that much | Jun 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | easier. | Jun 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | [/quote] | Jun 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/06a12e8ba765a4aa | Jun 18 07:54 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Where people use OpenOffice - comp.os.linux.advocacy | Google Groups .::. Size~: 35.27 KB | Jun 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | I certainly look forward to these Microsoft monsters being brought down. | Jun 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | They have been a detriment to developers, the software/hardware industry | Jun 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | in general and a detriment to implementation of newer technologies (thin | Jun 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | clients for businesses and netbooks for consumers). It is technologies | Jun 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | as these that benefit all (except the Microsoft model). | Jun 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | OTOH, I have noticed more advertising of Microsoft embedded OS on web | Jun 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | pages. That may explain the additional trolling in COLA. | Jun 18 07:54 |
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| schestowitz | About dell: "I know what you mean about this.they are daft.shame as they had a nice ish netbook which worked will with ubuntu" http://identi.ca/conversation/36594940#notice-36806701 | Jun 18 10:54 |
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| schestowitz | I didn't know it was "nice" | Jun 18 10:54 |
| schestowitz | Some people complained about it | Jun 18 10:54 |
| MinceR | i didn't know dell had any product even close to "nice ish" | Jun 18 11:08 |
| MinceR | they shovel some shit together and call it "RoadReady" | Jun 18 11:09 |
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| schestowitz | I had a Dell PC at work | Jun 18 12:14 |
| schestowitz | But that's it | Jun 18 12:14 |
| schestowitz | Actually, I had it at both work and the university office | Jun 18 12:14 |
| schestowitz | One had a bad hard drive | Jun 18 12:14 |
| oiaohm | Dell PC are quite dependenable | Jun 18 12:17 |
| oiaohm | Other than they compelete crap to upgrade. | Jun 18 12:17 |
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| schestowitz | Grr........ I have few options left... either to stay in campaigning living poorly or getting a full-time job (part-time too rare to find). My aspiration is to find a position that is research-oriented and requires a degree of interaction. | Jun 18 12:54 |
| MinceR | they're quite dependable to break | Jun 18 13:20 |
| MinceR | 100% of all dell products i've ever owned broke in normal use within the warranty period and they refused to fix it fully | Jun 18 13:21 |
| schestowitz | Typical IDG: http://advice.cio.com/alice_bitrix/10705/opposites_attract_how_can_the_flexibility_of_open_source_and_the_assurance_of_proprietary_software_coexist | Jun 18 13:27 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Opposites attract: How can the Flexibility of Open Source and the Assurance of Proprietary Software Coexist? | CIO - Blogs and Discussion .::. Size~: 82.29 KB | Jun 18 13:27 |
| MinceR | assurance of crappiness? i don't miss that | Jun 18 13:27 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Jun 18 13:36 |
| schestowitz | http://slashdot.org/submission/1262660/Latest-Microsoft-Patch-Wreaks-Havoc-on-Sharepoint?art_pos=38 | Jun 18 13:42 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Slashdot Submission | Latest Microsoft Patch Wreaks Havoc on Sharepoint .::. Size~: 44.61 KB | Jun 18 13:42 |
| schestowitz | http://techthrob.com/2010/06/16/why-the-ubuntu-tablet-won%e2%80%99t-sell/ | Jun 18 13:44 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Why an Ubuntu Tablet Won’t Sell | Techthrob.com .::. Size~: 111.9 KB | Jun 18 13:44 |
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| pupnik | hmm looks rather private | Jun 18 17:19 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS7190604648.html?kc=rss | Jun 18 23:26 |
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| schestowitz | Just beeb told about this song, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRpeEdMmmQ0 it stinks | Jun 18 23:26 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- Shakira - Waka Waka (This Time for Africa) (The Official 2010 FIFA ... .::. Size~: 113.83 KB | Jun 18 23:26 |
| MinceR | a song about PacMan? | Jun 18 23:27 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Jun 18 23:28 |
| schestowitz | I only watched fragments of this video | Jun 18 23:28 |
| schestowitz | No booty, no good song, crappy video | Jun 18 23:28 |
| schestowitz | http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2010/06/running-64-bit-linux-no-flash.html | Jun 18 23:28 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: I reckon people watch it cause men kicking rubber around makes many brutes feel more manly :-) | Jun 18 23:29 |
| schestowitz | I gave up on football | Jun 18 23:29 |
| schestowitz | I have some medals from it though | Jun 18 23:29 |
| schestowitz | There comes a time when you analyse sports too much and realise how stupid it can be, unless you're doing an exercise programme | Jun 18 23:30 |
| schestowitz | But the worst is being a spectator | Jun 18 23:30 |
| schestowitz | I play sports, I don't play them on the couch | Jun 18 23:30 |
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| schestowitz | I seem to have added some crappy twitter accounts of people whom I know from twitter and other places | Jun 19 21:20 |
| schestowitz | yoonkit and jan are boring | Jun 19 21:20 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/36836600#notice-37050108 "@schestowitz will it be recorded? (ogg perhaps?) that would be #awesome" | Jun 19 21:21 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-06-19-001-39-OS-CY-0004 | Jun 19 21:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 19 21:37 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Linux Today - The Party of Gno .::. Size~: 76.47 KB | Jun 19 21:37 |
| schestowitz | The reason why | Jun 19 21:37 |
| schestowitz | 'anti-smoking ads' work is because they cause the | Jun 19 21:37 |
| schestowitz | majority of non-smokers to be frightened of the | Jun 19 21:37 |
| schestowitz | (typically poorer(!)) minority of smokers. Combine this | Jun 19 21:37 |
| schestowitz | with the natural desire of people to force others to | Jun 19 21:37 |
| schestowitz | conform to their idea of living and the fact that | Jun 19 21:37 |
| schestowitz | 'rules and regulations' are free and you have a near | Jun 19 21:37 |
| schestowitz | ideal 'hot topic' for any politician lusting for public | Jun 19 21:37 |
| schestowitz | attention. | Jun 19 21:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 19 21:37 |
| schestowitz | Good interview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7LjriWFAEs&feature=channel | Jun 19 23:34 |
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| schestowitz | Groklaw posts "Microsoft debuts 'Kinect' with a giant, crazy spectacle at E3" | Jun 20 08:22 |
| schestowitz | wth? | Jun 20 08:22 |
| schestowitz | http://www.dailytech.com/Goatse+Finds+Reveals+Another+Gaping+Hole+in+iPad+This+Time+in+Safari/article18723.htm | Jun 20 08:25 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: DailyTech - Goatse Reveals Another Gaping Hole in iPad, This Time in Safari .::. Size~: 203.95 KB | Jun 20 08:25 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* | Jun 20 08:25 |
| schestowitz | Gaping hole | Jun 20 08:25 |
| schestowitz | "A computer expert who belongs to the group of hackers that broke into AT&T's servers last week to steal iPad customers' e-mail addresses has been arrested and jailed on drug charges following a search of his residence by the FBI." | Jun 20 08:33 |
| schestowitz | http://www.informationweek.com/news/storage/data_protection/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=225700372 | Jun 20 08:33 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: iPad E-Mail Hacker Jailed -- InformationWeek .::. Size~: 71.75 KB | Jun 20 08:33 |
| schestowitz | Ha! | Jun 20 08:33 |
| schestowitz | "[PJ: So, they intend to keep up with whatever your content is, I gather. Old fashioned types like me call that spying. Spying plus spamming. What next?] " http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9178128/HP_partners_with_Yahoo_for_targeted_ads | Jun 20 08:41 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: HP partners with Yahoo for targeted ads - Computerworld .::. Size~: 78.03 KB | Jun 20 08:41 |
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| schestowitz | Damn Intel apologists | Jun 20 13:55 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/37130756 | Jun 20 13:55 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Jos Poortvliet (jospoortvliet) 's status on Sunday, 20-Jun-10 09:35:47 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.12 KB | Jun 20 13:55 |
| schestowitz | me: "antitrust/government authorities in 3 continents agree with my argument that Intel committed many crimes. Argue with them." | Jun 20 13:55 |
| schestowitz | anti-Obama folks link to us... http://twitter.com/CFHeather/statuses/16601732578 | Jun 20 14:04 |
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| schestowitz | http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0619/obama-slams-gop-obstruction-jobs-stimulus/ | Jun 20 17:52 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Obama slams GOP obstruction on jobs, stimulus | Raw Story .::. Size~: 43.75 KB | Jun 20 17:52 |
| schestowitz | http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/14/discount-menswear-ad.html | Jun 20 17:55 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Discount menswear ad, 1917 - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 20.96 KB | Jun 20 17:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/198963/Facebook.html?tk=rss_news | Jun 20 20:02 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Sophos: Facebook Failing to Tackle Likejacking - PCWorld .::. Size~: 68.88 KB | Jun 20 20:02 |
| schestowitz | Religious nutters run the US (see comment): http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/us_and_canada/10348685.stm | Jun 20 20:20 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 77.56 KB | Jun 20 20:20 |
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| schestowitz | The Land of Opportunity... for swindles | Jun 20 22:11 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ9LWSUEeEw | Jun 20 22:13 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- Gary Coleman is awesome .::. Size~: 81.47 KB | Jun 20 22:13 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWTufqY2Y9M&feature=related | Jun 20 23:16 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeQL5riHPVw | Jun 21 16:40 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- Letter Says Women Can't Watch World Cup (TYT Exclusive) .::. Size~: 106.06 KB | Jun 21 16:40 |
| MinceR | tyts? | Jun 21 16:41 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.vimeo.com/12598733 skip to 24:00 | Jun 22 19:23 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: PFS 2010 - Terence Kealey, Science is a Private Good – Or: Why Government Science is Wasteful on Vimeo .::. Size~: 50.96 KB | Jun 22 19:23 |
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| schestowitz | PR puppets strike again. | Jun 22 21:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 22 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Hi Roy, | Jun 22 21:49 |
| schestowitz | According to GroundWork (www.gwos.com) customers - "Monitoring is the number two problem that both IT and businesses face when it comes to working in the cloud." | Jun 22 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Tomorrow - GWOS will be launching GroundWork Monitor Enterprise Cloud -- complete monitoring and management applications build on Eucalyptus private clouds and Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud environments. | Jun 22 21:49 |
| schestowitz | In addition to announcing that it has QUADRUPLED it's customer-base in the last 8 months. | Jun 22 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Roy - Interested speaking with GWOS first thing tomorrow, or seeing the releases under embargo? | Jun 22 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Best, | Jun 22 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Melody | Jun 22 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Melody Callaway | Jun 22 21:49 |
| schestowitz | 720-939-0476 | Jun 22 21:49 |
| schestowitz | melody@callawaypr.com | Jun 22 21:49 |
| schestowitz | twitter: melodycallaway | Jun 22 21:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 22 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Wooooohhooo! Embargo...... NOT. | Jun 22 21:49 |
| schestowitz | That's how Apple lures its cult members into covering its junk | Jun 22 21:49 |
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| schestowitz | I'm removing popey | Jun 23 09:11 |
| schestowitz | hype* promotion | Jun 23 09:11 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/37403230#notice-37645359 "@schestowitz Re reading TR IRC logs, can you reduce max line length by about 1/3 somehow? As is text hard to read on my little netbook" Huh? | Jun 23 12:01 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9 KB | Jun 23 12:01 |
| schestowitz | I don't get it... browser issue? | Jun 23 12:01 |
| schestowitz | it would be tricky to change the consistent template. | Jun 23 12:02 |
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| schestowitz | Phoronix sensationalism? http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/06/23/047259/Is-LGP-Going-the-Way-of-Loki-Software http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=lgp_going_loki&num=1 | Jun 23 20:33 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Slashdot Games Story | Is LGP Going the Way of Loki Software? .::. Size~: 138.3 KB | Jun 23 20:33 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: [Phoronix] Is LGP Going The Way Of Loki Software? .::. Size~: 20.78 KB | Jun 23 20:33 |
| schestowitz | The trolls in COLA have been on some kind of strong drug recently. Their latest victim (they are like bullies in yard, focusing their effort on one person) should try it again in a week or two :-) | Jun 23 21:24 |
| schestowitz | Effective advocates are attacked the most... now libel again *sigh* | Jun 23 21:24 |
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| oiaohm | Yo Vanish looks screwed up again schestowitz | Jun 24 01:02 |
| schestowitz | Yeah.. | Jun 24 01:02 |
| schestowitz | I phones him. | Jun 24 01:08 |
| schestowitz | *ned | Jun 24 01:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-06-22-003-35-OP-MS-UB-0001 | Jun 24 01:16 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Linux Today - Has Windows 7 killed Linux on the desktop? .::. Size~: 74.87 KB | Jun 24 01:16 |
| schestowitz | "I hope no one was foolish enough to click on this obvious link bait. Linux was doing fine before Windows 7 and it's doing fine now. Windows 7 is only "good" when you compare it to Vista. It is still light years behind Linux when it comes to security, stability, flexibility, and open architecture." | Jun 24 01:17 |
| schestowitz | TechRadar headline-trolls | Jun 24 01:17 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-06-22-009-35-NW-CD-0002 "Another conclusion which PJ's documentation defines thoroughly is that Murphy is to SCO as SCO is to Microsoft. " | Jun 24 01:19 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Linux Today - More "Paul Murphy" Anti-Linux FUD: SCO or Son of SCO Can Still Win .::. Size~: 75.11 KB | Jun 24 01:19 |
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| ender2070 | lol i got him so mad | Jun 24 04:03 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/06/18/wikileaks/index.html | Jun 24 07:36 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The strange and consequential case of Bradley Manning, Adrian Lamo and WikiLeaks - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com .::. Size~: 104.59 KB | Jun 24 07:36 |
| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODM2MA | Jun 24 07:53 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: [Phoronix] Linux Game Publishing: "We Are Very Much Alive" .::. Size~: 17.56 KB | Jun 24 07:53 |
| MinceR | still alive | Jun 24 07:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 24 08:17 |
| schestowitz | > Somehow, I honestly feel that Gary Stewart is at least partially | Jun 24 08:17 |
| schestowitz | > responsible for death threats to mjcr, causing him to abandon the FAQ | Jun 24 08:17 |
| schestowitz | > project, which appeared to be picked up shortly after by others. He has | Jun 24 08:17 |
| schestowitz | > such a fixation on mjcr that he posted his lunacy gloating about mjcr's | Jun 24 08:17 |
| schestowitz | > last message mocking him. | Jun 24 08:17 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 24 08:17 |
| schestowitz | > I'll be back, but felt I needed several weeks off. When I return, will | Jun 24 08:17 |
| schestowitz | > catch the trolls by surprise. :-) | Jun 24 08:17 |
| schestowitz | It's best never to acknowledge their existence there, let alone reply. Makes it much easier to be in COLA and focus on advocacy without noise. | Jun 24 08:17 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 24 08:17 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yeah, exaggeration from Phoronix to create FUD, I think | Jun 24 08:17 |
| schestowitz | He pushed it into Slashdot too | Jun 24 08:17 |
| schestowitz | Half the article there are negative this week | Jun 24 08:17 |
| MinceR | lgp is pushing drm anyway | Jun 24 08:18 |
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| schestowitz | Yeah, better than having no games at all, IMHO | Jun 24 09:12 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/37588448#notice-37815042 "Roy, do you know of many people within Manchester using Ubuntu at the moment.I see lots more than I used to on netbooks etc" | Jun 24 09:22 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.35 KB | Jun 24 09:22 |
| schestowitz | Actually, I was surprised to hear from friends who don't know hi-tech that they had downloaded Fedora | Jun 24 09:23 |
| *schestowitz tired! | Jun 24 10:06 | |
| schestowitz | Not enough sleep :-) | Jun 24 10:06 |
| schestowitz | As you probably know, I have been spending my post-doc time mostly promoting FOSS, which was a personal choice of mine (advancing this cause by spreading the word). | Jun 24 10:06 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsPTtVkgIzI | Jun 24 20:52 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- UrrrrraaaaAAAAARRGH!!! .::. Size~: 96.84 KB | Jun 24 20:52 |
| schestowitz | YouTube has too many trolls: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDr_FLL9tOU&feature=channel | Jun 24 21:27 |
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| schestowitz | Poverty in California.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wVhgeiqJic | Jun 24 21:50 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- Quick Retail Report: Businesses Dying a Slow Death .::. Size~: 112.49 KB | Jun 24 21:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLYRuQOKab8 | Jun 24 21:54 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- On the Ground Report: Recycling for a Living, Door to Door Sales, Fight at the Grocery Store .::. Size~: 112.77 KB | Jun 24 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Riot risk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU_eHikNtmk | Jun 24 22:05 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- SurviveAndThriveTV.com: Hardening Your House .::. Size~: 108.49 KB | Jun 24 22:05 |
| MinceR | Richard Dawkins is unaware of weak agnosticism? | Jun 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | The video? Which one? An older one? | Jun 24 22:13 |
| schestowitz | About agnostics? | Jun 24 22:13 |
| schestowitz | The word "atheist" is stupid | Jun 24 22:13 |
| schestowitz | And it's not about religion either | Jun 24 22:13 |
| schestowitz | Those videos I just happen to find in science channels I enjoy | Jun 24 22:14 |
| schestowitz | Today I watched some BP stuff | Jun 24 22:14 |
| schestowitz | Serious things happen in the US at the moment... farmers screwed, not just fishermen | Jun 24 22:14 |
| MinceR | Richard Dawkins - The Poverty Of Agnosticism 1/2 | Jun 24 22:14 |
| schestowitz | I'm not a fan of his | Jun 24 22:15 |
| schestowitz | He sometimes presents scientist badly in debate | Jun 24 22:15 |
| MinceR | i think that until the absence of gods is proven, atheism remains a religion. :> | Jun 24 22:15 |
| schestowitz | he's abrasive and arrogant | Jun 24 22:15 |
| MinceR | but at least it has a relatively good rational basis | Jun 24 22:15 |
| MinceR | i'd be abrasive and arrogant too, if much of my career was about fighting religious zealots who spout nonsense without having any knowledge | Jun 24 22:16 |
| schestowitz | I know | Jun 24 22:16 |
| schestowitz | That's what I say in his defence | Jun 24 22:16 |
| schestowitz | He didn't care about religions | Jun 24 22:16 |
| schestowitz | He just did his biology stuff | Jun 24 22:16 |
| schestowitz | But people stood in his way and attacked his work. Guess who? | Jun 24 22:16 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 24 22:17 |
| MinceR | also, the existence of other gods is not considered | Jun 24 22:19 |
| schestowitz | He made a small fortune by retaliating against his critics | Jun 24 22:21 |
| MinceR | that's still insignificant compared to the amount of money the catholic cult steals unrightfully | Jun 24 22:24 |
| schestowitz | It's like cults | Jun 24 22:25 |
| schestowitz | TBH, I looked into the sects | Jun 24 22:25 |
| schestowitz | They are just smaller | Jun 24 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Thus less familiar and less 'normal' | Jun 24 22:25 |
| schestowitz | But they are all just different businesses (churches) distinguishes themselves from one another for the imposter to work out the pyramid scheme | Jun 24 22:26 |
| schestowitz | The belief doctrine needn't involve God | Jun 24 22:26 |
| schestowitz | It can be an alient | Jun 24 22:26 |
| schestowitz | It can be a way of life | Jun 24 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Orgy, sacrifice, suicide, polygamy, etc. | Jun 24 22:26 |
| schestowitz | The common thing is the structure and it's a tyranny | Jun 24 22:27 |
| schestowitz | /. advertises Microsoft a lot today... and Apple too | Jun 25 00:06 |
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| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:20:15 2010 | Jun 25 01:43 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/cir9p/steve_jobs_to_iphone_4_user_with_bad_reception/ | Jun 25 06:58 |
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| MinceR | oops, wrong channel | Jun 25 06:58 |
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| schestowitz | I hate link shorteners | Jun 25 16:18 |
| schestowitz | Another point of failure | Jun 25 16:18 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/37812791#notice-38054519 | Jun 25 16:18 |
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| MinceR | indeed | Jun 25 16:32 |
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| schestowitz | > Youtube is sluggish, IPlayer is sluggish .. lots of pauses and don't | Jun 25 17:52 |
| schestowitz | > seem to be buffering in the background. And this is low definition. | Jun 25 17:52 |
| schestowitz | > OK, maybe lots of people watching the World Cup online, but this is no | Jun 25 17:52 |
| schestowitz | > excuse. They even temporarily blocked the BBC at a place of work, so | Jun 25 17:52 |
| schestowitz | > as to save on bandwidth. This in mid 2010 !!! | Jun 25 17:52 |
| schestowitz | I have this too sometimes... | Jun 25 17:52 |
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| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell-social for http://TechRights.org | Communication about anything, including Microsoft, Novell, and Free software :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell | Jun 26 13:02 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:18:26 2010 | Jun 26 13:02 | |
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| phIRCe-local | Hello World! I'm phIRCe-local running phIRCe v0.3 | Jun 26 13:03 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 37.53 KB | Jun 26 13:03 |
| schestowitz | > Roy, that "Java 4-ever" trailer on your techrights blog was hilarious! - | Jun 26 14:31 |
| schestowitz | > George | Jun 26 14:31 |
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| schestowitz | I am looking for a software-oriented job with emphasis on LAMP. | Jun 26 20:19 |
| schestowitz | This is annoying, but I need at least a part-time thing | Jun 26 20:19 |
| schestowitz | Florian keeps mailing | Jun 26 20:23 |
| schestowitz | Lobbyist of sorts..... | Jun 26 20:23 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks. That's very fair. Is there any way in which I can address, be it for | Jun 26 20:23 |
| schestowitz | > quoting or just for an exchange of information between us, your concern that | Jun 26 20:23 |
| schestowitz | > Hercules is bad for GNU/Linux? | Jun 26 20:23 |
| schestowitz | Not as this stage. I don't want to bring up this dead horse. | Jun 26 20:23 |
| schestowitz | http://280.status.net/notice/176898 "i was trying to find an obscure article related to rms just now, and instead found an interview you did with him 2 1/2 years ago on earthweb" | Jun 26 20:23 |
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| schestowitz | I occasionally correspond with Richard | Jun 26 20:24 |
| schestowitz | The FSF only hies USians though | Jun 26 20:27 |
| schestowitz | Shame... | Jun 26 20:27 |
| schestowitz | *hires | Jun 26 20:27 |
| schestowitz | > OK, fine. It was just an offer. Now that the NEON complaint is also on the | Jun 26 20:44 |
| schestowitz | > table, I think this antitrust issue is likely to generate more news, | Jun 26 20:44 |
| schestowitz | > especially in the coming months. | Jun 26 20:44 |
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| schestowitz | *sigh* | Jun 26 23:01 |
| schestowitz | > It may be too late for today but if you could at your earliest | Jun 26 23:01 |
| schestowitz | > opportunity remove my email address from the quoted email, that would be | Jun 26 23:01 |
| schestowitz | > very kind. Too many bots and spiders crawling the Internet to find | Jun 26 23:01 |
| schestowitz | > addresses... | Jun 26 23:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 26 23:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 26 23:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 26 23:01 |
| schestowitz | > No one will doubt the authenticity of the email and if necessary I can | Jun 26 23:01 |
| schestowitz | > confirm on Twitter or so. | Jun 26 23:01 |
| schestowitz | He should not give Google copies of his inbox/outbox, esp. since he mentions them. | Jun 26 23:03 |
| schestowitz | Some people still use Hotmail | Jun 26 23:03 |
| schestowitz | They share all their mail with Microsoft | Jun 26 23:03 |
| schestowitz | ALso those whom they write to | Jun 26 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | "on my identi.ca profile: identi.ca/ou140 i added a slax icon- this is a nod to rms'smostlyslax- is there a bn/tr icon supporters could add?" | Jun 27 01:14 |
| schestowitz | Hmmm... | Jun 27 01:14 |
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| schestowitz | Florian is posting in volume | Jun 27 08:19 |
| schestowitz | *posting | Jun 27 08:20 |
| schestowitz | Not good | Jun 27 08:20 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks for this warning. GoogleMail is the best web-based mail service | Jun 27 08:20 |
| schestowitz | > especially for "heavy duty" purposes. I understand what you mean but I trust | Jun 27 08:20 |
| schestowitz | > that they'll be careful about the law, and accessing mail boxes would be | Jun 27 08:20 |
| schestowitz | > criminal conduct of a kind that exceeds the Streetmap issue by a factor of | Jun 27 08:20 |
| schestowitz | > 100 or 1,000, or even an infinite factor in case they can't be charged for | Jun 27 08:20 |
| schestowitz | > the Streetmap thing on the basis of criminal law. I trust that the law will | Jun 27 08:20 |
| schestowitz | > deter them from doing that. With the WLAN scans etc., they tried to stretch | Jun 27 08:20 |
| schestowitz | > the boundaries of what's legal, like they do in so many areas including | Jun 27 08:20 |
| schestowitz | > YouTube. Those business models are like that. But the GMail business model | Jun 27 08:20 |
| schestowitz | > is a traditional email business model. | Jun 27 08:20 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/tuxtweaks/statuses/17123825406 "I'm a different Linerd than you knew before. Thanks for the info about FSDaily. Thought you might know. Hope it comes back." | Jun 27 08:34 |
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| schestowitz | Why would people call themselves "nerds"? | Jun 27 08:35 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202462946165&Minimizing_the_Legal_Risks_of__Using_Online_Social_Networks | Jun 27 09:09 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Law.com - Minimizing the Legal Risks of Using Online Social Networks .::. Size~: 32.06 KB | Jun 27 09:09 |
| schestowitz | What did Florian mean by "heavy duty"? | Jun 27 09:09 |
| schestowitz | I reckon he bombards journalists | Jun 27 09:09 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/24/technology/24apple.html?src=busln | Jun 27 12:33 |
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| schestowitz | Gates apologism... "I suppose it's the same reason Redhat needs patent lawyers: defence. It's a sad state of affairs though." http://identi.ca/conversation/38105498#notice-38344688 | Jun 27 13:04 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/38121660#notice-38355577 " oh absolutely- i was just giving you my answer, not theirs" | Jun 27 13:07 |
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| schestowitz | To tell you the truth, MinceR and oiaohm, I want to stop covering Microsof | Jun 27 13:07 |
| schestowitz | That's why I did the poll | Jun 27 13:08 |
| schestowitz | But despite phrasing it like I did, the answers I got urges me to carry on fighting Microsoft | Jun 27 13:08 |
| schestowitz | But Microsoft gets its way if I lose interest in scrutinising it | Jun 27 13:08 |
| oiaohm | Problem is out of all the companies out there MS does the most wrong. | Jun 27 13:19 |
| oiaohm | Wounder if they would be better of they lost another 100 billion off there value. | Jun 27 13:20 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Jun 27 13:22 |
| schestowitz | But the thing is, I also know Microsoft better than other companies | Jun 27 13:22 |
| schestowitz | Other companies would be Novell, Red Hat... | Jun 27 13:22 |
| schestowitz | There are some who sit on Monsanto's and BP's throat | Jun 27 13:22 |
| schestowitz | Not my expertise and I haven't good references on them, either | Jun 27 13:23 |
| oiaohm | Monsanto is a highly complex job. | Jun 27 13:23 |
| schestowitz | It's like some who specialise in one field of research | Jun 27 13:23 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/37731/ | Jun 27 13:23 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Epoch Times - PC Sales to Grow 20% in 2010, Research Suggests .::. Size~: 28.6 KB | Jun 27 13:23 |
| schestowitz | With Microsoft coverage it can become repetitive theme-wise | Jun 27 13:23 |
| schestowitz | But it allows one to connect it all | Jun 27 13:23 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2365715,00.asp | Jun 27 13:23 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Facebook Isn't Moving into Search, for Now | News & Opinion | PCMag.com .::. Size~: 75.01 KB | Jun 27 13:23 |
| schestowitz | Facebook does some bad stuff too | Jun 27 13:24 |
| oiaohm | Yes MS bag of tricks is very limited. | Jun 27 13:24 |
| oiaohm | Hard part about picking on google is everytime they respond to the issue. | Jun 27 13:24 |
| oiaohm | Really for a change you should try a MS free week. | Jun 27 13:25 |
| oiaohm | Of course notify readers what you up to. | Jun 27 13:26 |
| oiaohm | Wonder if techrights should do a monthy award for the most creative way a company has found to screw the end user. | Jun 27 13:27 |
| oiaohm | Of course I still don't have a login into your site. | Jun 27 13:29 |
| oiaohm | After all these years. | Jun 27 13:29 |
| oiaohm | Hey schestowitz when was the last time you did a 100 percent postive story. | Jun 27 13:31 |
| schestowitz | [13:27] <oiaohm> Wonder if techrights should do a monthy award for the most creative way a company has found to screw the end user. | Jun 27 13:41 |
| schestowitz | We used to have the chairlet thing | Jun 27 13:41 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: we do some positive stories too, but usually there's nothing to 'unspin' in them | Jun 27 13:41 |
| schestowitz | So I put them in daily links | Jun 27 13:41 |
| schestowitz | The way I write is, I look for good news and if I find FUD I put it aside and writer about it later | Jun 27 13:42 |
| oiaohm | I was talking about you being the author of the postive story. | Jun 27 13:44 |
| oiaohm | Ie so good old style new reporting. | Jun 27 13:45 |
| oiaohm | Other thing don't think you ever do interviews. | Jun 27 13:45 |
| oiaohm | I am just trying to give you different things to think about to make life more interesting. | Jun 27 13:46 |
| schestowitz | http://280.status.net/conversation/245643#notice-178443 "Seems very speculative to me. In order to write a majority opinion, one must first be part of the majority on a case." | Jun 27 13:47 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: محادثة - 280 .::. Size~: 10.85 KB | Jun 27 13:47 |
| schestowitz | "Although I'd dearly love an opinion that restricts or eliminated business method patents and #swpats. Decision expected Monday." | Jun 27 13:47 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: interviews take a long time | Jun 27 13:48 |
| schestowitz | And positive news I just pass on | Jun 27 13:48 |
| schestowitz | Lots of that | Jun 27 13:48 |
| schestowitz | I also post these in Identica and USENET | Jun 27 13:48 |
| oiaohm | I am not talking about doing interviews and the like or the time. Just as something to throw in when things are getting too repeativtive for you. | Jun 27 13:49 |
| schestowitz | I'm gonna go for a while... I hate this hot weather | Jun 27 13:49 |
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| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2007/11/24/xandros-asus-eee-gpl/ "Roy just read your TR poll comment (3). If there are some areas you want monitoring delegate, you can sort wheat from chaff. Decentralise" | Jun 27 17:15 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Asus Eees GPL Violation, Xandros Replaced by Debian GNU/Linux and Ubuntu | Techrights .::. Size~: 97.95 KB | Jun 27 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Maybe we should start doing more of that | Jun 27 17:15 |
| schestowitz | > Since M$ is not just the main violator but often the main instigator in | Jun 27 17:16 |
| schestowitz | > online rights, open formats, open standards and open markets, the site | Jun 27 17:16 |
| schestowitz | > will have to keep hammering on M$. | Jun 27 17:16 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 27 17:16 |
| schestowitz | > However, if you can make M$ a byline, where it is clear that it is in | Jun 27 17:16 |
| schestowitz | > the wrong, but not the main focus, that would help. M$ is after | Jun 27 17:16 |
| schestowitz | > mindshare, even negative articles are better for them than no article | Jun 27 17:16 |
| schestowitz | > or, god forbid, ignoring them and focusing on real software. | Jun 27 17:16 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 27 17:16 |
| schestowitz | > Speaking of real software, I would re-iterate that any time a M$ product | Jun 27 17:16 |
| schestowitz | > or service is mentioned, that a real service or product be highlighted. | Jun 27 17:16 |
| schestowitz | > Your visitor 'twitter' got hammered on Slashdot because he did not do | Jun 27 17:16 |
| schestowitz | > that. M$ attacks because they want people focusing on their products. | Jun 27 17:16 |
| schestowitz | > Tech people have always been annoyed by Gates. It's not new, but the | Jun 27 17:17 |
| schestowitz | > ongoing attempts at whitewashing him and his business is: | Jun 27 17:17 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.hip97.nl/ | Jun 27 17:17 |
| schestowitz | Boy, is David fooling Goblin. If only he could see the threats he's making. | Jun 27 19:52 |
| schestowitz | The trolls is not harming relationships among the community | Jun 27 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Apple son of an Apple | Jun 27 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Still ruining Linux, for Apple/ACCESS | Jun 27 19:52 |
| schestowitz | "talking of maths you say 20 people 1 David….and you’re forgetting 1 accuser on my blog, you." | Jun 27 19:54 |
| schestowitz | http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2010/06/25/gems-from-around-the-web-a-few-little-treasures-discovered-whilst-surfing/#comment-3852 | Jun 27 19:54 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Gems from around the web! A few little treasures discovered whilst surfing. « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 61.11 KB | Jun 27 19:54 |
| schestowitz | He seems to be ignoring so many other victims | Jun 27 19:54 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/23/nasa_tiltrotor_compo/ | Jun 27 21:44 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Flying-boat tiltrotor catamaran design wins NASA compo • The Register .::. Size~: 29.91 KB | Jun 27 21:44 |
| schestowitz | Goblin: | Jun 27 22:56 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks for the mail. I'll reply shortly when I'm not | Jun 27 22:56 |
| schestowitz | > walking....currently walking on the seafront at Poole | Jun 27 22:56 |
| schestowitz | See the IRC logs to see what Chips said to you. He is one of the victims and he was deeply disappointed that you defended this man. | Jun 27 22:56 |
| schestowitz | ^^^ me setting him straight, hopefully | Jun 27 22:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruTmqfGJhTI | Jun 28 00:05 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube- James Randi the ADE651 aka Quadro Tracker .::. Size~: 107.93 KB | Jun 28 00:05 |
| schestowitz | Interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho7GaI2rCwI | Jun 28 00:47 |
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| schestowitz | > Roy, | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > I kid you not. My mother-in-law, Mercedes brought back from her recent | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > trip to the Philippines a USB thumb drive filled with both digital | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > camera movies and still pictures. These were pictures taken by her | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > sons, daughters, grandsons and granddaughters, on their digital cameras. | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > My wife and daughter complained that they could not view the movies from | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > 2 different cameras in 2 different formats, .mpg and .mov, in Microsoft | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > Windows XP Home. Sound would play, but there was no video. | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > Therefore, today after lunch we watched them in Ubuntu Movie Player | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > (Totem), which played them without problem. Mercedes watched along side | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > us. | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > I copied them from thumb drive to the USB hard drive, then booted into | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > Windows XP Home. Sure enough in both in Windows Media Player and in | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > Apple Quick Time, we could not view them, only hear sound. You'd think | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > that both would prevent Linux from playing them by making the codecs | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > proprietary, I have the "forbidden" codecs enabled (LOL). | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > Perhaps you may have a better idea why I could not view content from the | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > Philippines. Is this a DRM scheme, and I am playing "illegal" content | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > from the Far East? | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > I hope not, but this is stupid, stupid, stupid (for Microsoft and Apple) | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > and good for Linux. | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | > I'm a software thief! (Heh!) | Jun 28 00:52 |
| schestowitz | My media players in Linux (Totem and Kaffeine) play a lot more than anything on proprietary platforms. The same goes for mplayer... | Jun 28 00:52 |
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| schestowitz | > Let me start off pointing out that I don't like the DFB (German association) team at all. Too many Bayern players and others I don't like. I hope Argentina will make it today and then win the quarter final. My soccer allegiance is with Real Madrid but during my project I also cooperated closely with Barcelona and AC Milan. Unlike the fans who live in Spain, I have no problem at all with Barça and it's unfortunate that | Jun 28 07:41 |
| schestowitz | Messi has not yet shown his best performance at the World Cup. | Jun 28 07:41 |
| schestowitz | > Just saw the Tevez goal and it was offside... FIFA is a total mafia, so is UEFA. You may have read about Triesman's revelations recently in your local press. | Jun 28 07:41 |
| schestowitz | > Now on to IT: | Jun 28 07:41 |
| schestowitz | > I saw you plan to do a poll on how to focus TechRights. | Jun 28 07:41 |
| schestowitz | > I have two different perspectives on it to offer. | Jun 28 07:41 |
| schestowitz | > The first one is that of a blogger who likes to link to other sites. With your blog that's usually very difficult. I repeatedly looked up your site for useful material and found articles that addressed the relevant topics but had two problems: I usually use Chrome for a browser and for searching your site I have to switch to Internet Explorer because Chrome will automatically bring up your site's local search when I type | Jun 28 07:41 |
| schestowitz | site:techrights.org (and that search on your site then only covers headlines, not the body of the articles). That's a little technical thing but I did want to mention it. The more important problem from the linking perspective is that you often cover very loosely related different topics in the same posting. If I then want to set a link and the topic that I want to highlight isn't right at the start of your article, a reader | Jun 28 07:41 |
| schestowitz | may get confused and think I linked to an irrelevant page. So I can't set links unless a posting is reasonably focused on a single topic. | Jun 28 07:41 |
| schestowitz | > The second perspective is that of a reader who also discussed your site with other activists (at the various conferences to which I recently went, TechRights/BoycottNovell sometimes were mentioned in private conversations). Just like me, a lot of people are amazed at how you really identify so many news items and stay on top of so many different issues. I'm not aware of any other knowledge base on the Internet that covers | Jun 28 07:41 |
| schestowitz | these topics in such a comprehensive, broadbased form. | Jun 28 07:41 |
| schestowitz | > But sometimes the connections you see between event A in country B and event C in country D, sometimes even in different corners of the Earth, are not always very convincing. One activist I talked to said that most of it is (I'm just summing it up) baseless conspiracy theories. I believe sometimes it's not even that you mean to make it a conspiracy theory: it may just be due to the fact that you cover different topics in | Jun 28 07:41 |
| schestowitz | one article and then have transitions from one topic to another that can be misinterpreted as strong factual connections or insinuations of conspiracy theories. | Jun 28 07:41 |
| schestowitz | > In my opinion, it's less critical whether you stay very much Microsoft/Gates-Foundation-focused or whether you cover more, although my own observation of the industry clearly is that all of the big players cause a lot of problems and Microsoft so far hasn't done with its patents what I thought five years ago that they would. The antitrust case in the EU has changed a lot. But again, whether you broaden the focus in terms of | Jun 28 07:41 |
| schestowitz | companies and their schemes is really something your readership as a whole should tell you. What I can say is that no matter what the focus is, it may make sense to avoid the problems and possible misunderstandings I outlined in this email. In some cases, it may be better not to enter into conspiracy theories that may appear too far-fetched in the eyes of many people. | Jun 28 07:41 |
| schestowitz | > You're sort of a "corporate watchdog" and I really think your site is needed, even though we disagree on some things. I just think that a "less is more" approach could help and if you then have a higher relative number of single-topic as opposed to multi-topic articles, then it will be easier for people like me to place links. | Jun 28 07:41 |
| schestowitz | > For the links it's always key to have some unique content and perspectives. For an example, people criticized me on Groklaw and /. for linking to a Maureen O'Gara article on NEON. But she added a factoid nobody else had (that the same law firm that worked for Sun on EU antitrust, that is, against Microsoft etc. now works for NEON) and that I wanted to mention and I needed to cite a source. Plus, Maureen, unlike other | Jun 28 07:41 |
| schestowitz | editors who had reported on NEON's announcement at the same time of day, put it into the context of other complaints. So I linked to her even though some conspiracy theorists will hold it against me. It made editorial sense. | Jun 28 07:41 |
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| schestowitz | > Thanks for the ongoing investigative journalism. | Jun 28 16:46 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 28 16:46 |
| schestowitz | > It’s the same old story from Meeks et al [1, 2]. Now | Jun 28 16:46 |
| schestowitz | > that Wipro and Novell (Thorsten Behrens) want to be | Jun 28 16:46 |
| schestowitz | > closer and deeper inside OpenOffice.org, it is worth | Jun 28 16:46 |
| schestowitz | > keeping an eye open. Oracle has no real financial | Jun 28 16:46 |
| schestowitz | > stress [1, 2] and given the huge number of | Jun 28 16:46 |
| schestowitz | > OpenOffice.org users, Novell is unlikely to get its way. | Jun 28 16:46 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 28 16:46 |
| schestowitz | > http://techrights.org/2010/06/28/novell-charge-of-openoffice/ | Jun 28 16:46 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 28 16:46 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Novell Still a Threat to OpenOffice.org | Techrights .::. Size~: 103.77 KB | Jun 28 16:46 |
| schestowitz | > Point of Information: Regarding attacks like the attempt to insert | Jun 28 16:46 |
| schestowitz | > Behrens, it is not the members at large that vote on that particular | Jun 28 16:46 |
| schestowitz | > seat on the community council. It is selected by the group of project / | Jun 28 16:46 |
| schestowitz | > sub project head, with the exception of the Native Language (NL) projects. | Jun 28 16:46 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 28 16:46 |
| schestowitz | > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Elections/2010-03 | Jun 28 16:46 |
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| schestowitz | > | Jun 28 16:46 |
| schestowitz | > That's a small group. The NL projects are mostly aware of Novell, but | Jun 28 16:46 |
| schestowitz | > since they're not involved in the decision it is easier for the Novell | Jun 28 16:46 |
| schestowitz | > candidate and go and make puppy eyes at the project leads and claim that | Jun 28 16:46 |
| schestowitz | > even though he is paid by Novell to participate on the Council, he is an | Jun 28 16:46 |
| schestowitz | > individual. That is so typical of how 'Softers work, having it both | Jun 28 16:46 |
| schestowitz | > ways. When it comes to screwing the project, they claim they have to | Jun 28 16:46 |
| schestowitz | > back up their employer. When you try to kick them out, they whine that | Jun 28 16:46 |
| schestowitz | > as an individual they have a right to participate. | Jun 28 16:46 |
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| schestowitz | Re: http://www.flickr.com/photos/actonline/ | Jun 28 23:08 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft fed him well. Look how far he got: Re: http://www.flickr.com/photos/actonline/ | Jun 28 23:08 |
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| schestowitz | And here's Mike Sax... for Microsoft... | Jun 28 23:08 |
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| schestowitz | Off the record, but the facts are no secret: Marten simply helped some of his executive friends (vice presidents and up) who had large stock option packages at MySQL, which were converted into Sun stock options and most of which were still unvested, and the unvested part was going to get vested immediately in a scenario of Oracle taking over Sun ("accelerated vestment", a usual clause in such agreements), but given Sun's | Jun 29 07:52 |
| schestowitz | economic shape would have been worth a lot less (especially since options have an exercise price and only what you get on top is your real value) if the deal had fallen through. Plus he did it to please a venture capital fund that regularly wants to sell company to Oracle, which as you know has a lot of appetite for buying companies. Marten's own stock options had been vested and exercised before -- as CEO he had done a | Jun 29 07:52 |
| schestowitz | special deal and then probably felt bad about other execs who didn't have that privilege. | Jun 29 07:52 |
| schestowitz | Jun 29 07:52 | |
| schestowitz | Concerning RMS, his open letter is all I was referring to, plus what he wrote on GNU.org about "selling exceptions" (dual licensing) and the defense of his you can find on YouTube where Brian Aker (another guy with Sun stock options) asked him about it. | Jun 29 07:52 |
| schestowitz | Jun 29 07:52 | |
| schestowitz | PJ did a lot of totally untruthful propaganda about the MySQL case but since Groklaw isn't relevant to the European Commission (in Brussels no one ever asked me about Groklaw, and people don't even know it really), we didn't enter into a fight with Groklaw. | Jun 29 07:52 |
| schestowitz | Jun 29 07:52 | |
| schestowitz | Now, however, I've received so much documentation of censorship from multiple independent sources that I think there is a possibility of me doing something on Groklaw, though at a time of my choosing. | Jun 29 07:52 |
| schestowitz | Jun 29 07:52 | |
| schestowitz | Florian | Jun 29 07:52 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.h-online.com/open/features/OpenOffice-at-the-crossroads-1023702.html | Jun 29 20:46 |
| schestowitz | > In 2008, Danske Fokus, National Irish Bank, Northern Bank, Sampo, and | Jun 29 20:46 |
| schestowitz | > O:stgo:ta Enskilda (collectively known as Danske Bank Group or some | Jun 29 20:46 |
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| schestowitz | > such) rolled out MS Sharepoint and promtly fell on their face. For | Jun 29 20:46 |
| schestowitz | > Sampo, in Finland, it was not possible for the bank's customers to pay | Jun 29 20:46 |
| schestowitz | > bills or receive payment. For those that had small businesses and used | Jun 29 20:46 |
| schestowitz | > the bank for their business, it was a killer. In some cases it put | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > businesses under. | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > On the occasions it was possible to use the net bank, it was also more | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > that occasionally possible to access other accounts and transfer money. | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > I wrote then to one of the journalists covering the problem and after a | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > few weeks got back a caged response centered around 'IBM is responsible | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > for the network'. There was not a peep about Sharepoint being in the | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > epicenter of the failure. | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > There was also managment failure on two levels : | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > 1. repeated initial tests showed that Sharepoint was not up to snuff, | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > but manageers {sic} forced out a deployment into production anyway | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > 2. manageers {sic} ignore nearly every last engineering princples needed | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > to have a graceful rollout and just did a Ballmeresque rip-and-replace | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > Lies: | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.danskebank.com/en-uk/press/News/Pages/ca20080325.aspx | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > I followed it in great detail because the initial bragging that Sampo | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > would deploy MS Sharepoint right before I started teaching a course | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > entitled "Information Security Strategy and Management" and used it as a | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > running theme for 8 weeks. A few of the students caught on but in | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > subsequent years got bribed or browbeat into (re-)submission by the | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > Softers in the management or elsewhere. | Jun 29 20:47 |
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| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > That's a long way of saying, if you dig, you will probably find | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > something bigger than the London Stock Exchange failure. | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | > Keep up with the great investigative journalism. | Jun 29 20:47 |
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| schestowitz | Just got this about Fedora, so ender2070 might care | Jun 29 21:02 |
| schestowitz | > A question about NPR and the Bill and Melinda Gates | Jun 29 21:02 |
| schestowitz | > Foundation^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hpolitical action committee: | Jun 29 21:02 |
| schestowitz | > Why didn't Deborah Amos talk with someone from Google? | Jun 29 21:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127874297 | Jun 29 21:03 |
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| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > Or why not talk about security or desktops with an editor from Mac World | Jun 29 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > about Mac or someone from the Fedora | Jun 29 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > project about Linux? Or from Oracle about OpenSolaris? | Jun 29 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board | Jun 29 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 21:03 |
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| schestowitz | > They could certainly address the questions about secure operation or | Jun 29 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > design much better. They could even point listeners towards steps they | Jun 29 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > can take to migrate to secure systems. | Jun 29 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > Why bring in someone with a clear conflict of interest and no domain | Jun 29 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > expertise? | Jun 29 21:03 |
| schestowitz | NPR is not so "public" (RMS is very cynical about it in his blog, too); it deals with brands the public cares about. | Jun 29 21:03 |
| schestowitz | As Fox News' head says, it's about ratings. FLOSS has a philosophy that's incompatible with marketing and excessive publicity. | Jun 29 21:03 |
| schestowitz | THe clip at the end here is funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy4B-i3m0eE | Jun 29 23:53 |
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| schestowitz | > I updated the "Florian Mueller's latest FUD campaign" story to give you a | Jun 30 07:43 |
| schestowitz | > prominent link near the top of the article. I think a nice yellow box will | Jun 30 07:43 |
| schestowitz | > attract attention :-) | Jun 30 07:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 07:43 |
| schestowitz | > http://slushdot.com/article.php?story=20100628001225597 | Jun 30 07:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 07:43 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Florian Mueller's latest FUD campaign hits a brick wall - slushdot .::. Size~: 72.4 KB | Jun 30 07:43 |
| schestowitz | > I'll be happy to do the same any other time you have something interesting | Jun 30 07:43 |
| schestowitz | > that I should link to. | Jun 30 07:43 |
| schestowitz | > If you want, send me the link and I'll update the article to link to it, same | Jun 30 07:43 |
| schestowitz | > as I did for the FUD article. | Jun 30 07:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 07:43 |
| schestowitz | > Same deal - a prominent yellow box near the top of the story. | Jun 30 07:43 |
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| schestowitz | I've stopped relying to Florian | Jun 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > I encourage you to take note of a major difference between Groklaw and | Jun 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > me based on the following example: | Jun 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > - Groklaw's PJ, contrary to her claims that she's against software | Jun 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > patents, wrote (in a headline!) that IBM is free to sue the pants off | Jun 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > TurboHercules. | Jun 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > - My piece of yesterday on the Bilski losers touts Marc Benioff's guts | Jun 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > and says that "The NoSoftwarePatents movement would love to see him | Jun 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > prevail in court" rather than suggesting Microsoft should win. I only | Jun 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > point out that the SCOTUS' reference to technology for optimizing | Jun 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > business processes doesn't bode well for Salesforce.com. But that's a | Jun 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > legal fact. On the moral side, I do the very opposite of saying | Jun 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > Microsoft should sue his pants off. By the way, the article makes it | Jun 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > very clear that nothing has changed about me being part of the | Jun 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > NoSoftwarePatents movement. | Jun 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > I don't ask for blind faith or implicit trust. I encourage critical | Jun 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > analysis and debate. But even if it may not fit in your view of the | Jun 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > world, I ask you to accept the fact that I have arrived at a conclusion | Jun 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > that -- for the time being, and things change fast in this industry -- | Jun 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > Microsoft's patents do not represent a problem because they use them | Jun 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > only to collect royalties and not to shut out competition, while IBM, | Jun 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > Apple and others do the latter, which is really a threat for innovation | Jun 30 10:01 |
| schestowitz | > and competition in general and for FOSS in particular. | Jun 30 10:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 10:01 |
| schestowitz | > During my NoSoftwarePatents campaign, I, too, used Microsoft as a | Jun 30 10:01 |
| schestowitz | > bogeyman and I did so because I thought they had the strongest strategic | Jun 30 10:01 |
| schestowitz | > motivation to use patents destructively against FOSS. However, since | Jun 30 10:01 |
| schestowitz | > their use of patents is benign and cooperative (even more cooperative | Jun 30 10:01 |
| schestowitz | > than Google's use of patents, apart from Google's wonderful statement | Jun 30 10:01 |
| schestowitz | > concerning patents and open source), I concluded months ago that I had | Jun 30 10:01 |
| schestowitz | > to adjust my thinking to reality rather than substitute past fears for | Jun 30 10:01 |
| schestowitz | > present realities (something not happening, or at least not having | Jun 30 10:01 |
| schestowitz | > happened yet, is also a reality). | Jun 30 10:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 10:01 |
| schestowitz | > Concerning monopoly abuse, I believe the European Commission's | Jun 30 10:01 |
| schestowitz | > intervention has had a lot of effect. Looking at the marketplace, I | Jun 30 10:01 |
| schestowitz | > think there are segments in which Microsoft is now needed to have more | Jun 30 10:01 |
| schestowitz | > competition, such as search engines or smartphones. I don't want a | Jun 30 10:01 |
| schestowitz | > monopoly in any IT market. I like Google but I don't think it would be | Jun 30 10:01 |
| schestowitz | > good if they became more powerful than Microsoft has ever been. Power | Jun 30 10:01 |
| schestowitz | > corrupts people. There must be a limit, and if in some markets Microsoft | Jun 30 10:01 |
| schestowitz | > is the challenger, that's better than an incumbent, unchallenged monopoly. | Jun 30 10:01 |
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