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| schestowitz | Maybe I was wrong about Florian | May 01 11:37 |
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| schestowitz | Me to Florian: "We agree on most grounds, but why do you battle against the GPL and GNU/Linux sometimes? What impression might that give and how might that help elimination of swpats?" | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | Him:" | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | " | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | GNU/Linux sometimes? What impression might that give and how might that | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | help elimination of swpats? < | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | I disagree on both counts (GPL and GNU/Linux). Both are related to | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | misunderstandings. | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | Did you ever read my e-book "No Lobbyists As Such"? In that one I explained | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | the Munich Linux story. I didn't do anything other than forward an email of | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | a city administration official from a public mailing list to the press, and | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | I didn't say that the Munich Linux project was going to be stopped, I only | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | stated accurately that the email said it was "put on ice", and something | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | that is put on ice isn't necessarily dead forever, it can thaw again and | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | that's exactly what happened then. | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | At no point in time was I against, or trying to do anything against, that | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | migration project. Also, in what I did back then, Jan Wildeboer (who later | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | joined Red Hat, where he still is) was also very much involved as my e-book | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | explained. | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | Concerning the GPL, do you mean the Oracle/MySQL thing? | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | My position paper left no doubt that it would have been preferable for MySQL | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | to continue under the GPL and under an owner with no conflict of interests. | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | A possible license change was described but there were very clear wordings | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | in there saying that it would not have been as good as a solution as a | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | divestiture and continued GPL development. In case that's a key issue to | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | you, I'll copy you the related paragraphs -- note that saying "some [...] | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | concerns [...] alleviated" doesn't mean "all problems solved" and that | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | there's the concluding paragraph saying that disruptive innovation wouldn't | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | continuing at the same level after a license change. See below. | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | Florian | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | " | May 01 11:37 |
| schestowitz | So I old him, "You ought to explain this point to pj2@groklaw and to Jan because I don't think they trust you. I did look at "No Lobbyists As Such" some years ago." | May 01 11:38 |
| schestowitz | Him: | May 01 11:38 |
| schestowitz | " | May 01 11:38 |
| schestowitz | One more thing about GPL | May 01 11:38 |
| schestowitz | I just replied to the GPL and GNU/Linux question, but let me also add this to the MySQL/GPL issue: In a number of conversations with journalists and analysts, such as my analyst conference in NYC in October, people asked me about whether a license change could be a fully satisfactory solution and I always pointed out the shortcomings while certainly confirming that it would have been better than nothing in my view (because I didn't | May 01 11:38 |
| schestowitz | believe in the idea of Oracle getting to own MySQL). | May 01 11:38 |
| schestowitz | On several of those occasions I said that if Oracle agreed to a license change, it could do so as part of a "scorched earth policy". | May 01 11:38 |
| schestowitz | Monty himself was more positive on the idea of a license change, but even he usually explained (I saw some emails and blog comments he wrote and heard him talking to others about it several times) the limitations of that approach. | May 01 11:38 |
| schestowitz | " | May 01 11:38 |
| schestowitz | >> You ought to explain this point to pj2@groklaw and to Jan because I | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | > don't think they trust you. < | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | > | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | > PJ supported my NoSoftwarePatents campaign big-time in 2004. The moment | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | > things turned sour was when I criticized IBM's patent pledge in January | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | > 2005. She disagreed and told me how great IBM's pledge was etc. | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | > | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | > In my opinion it's not credible that a blog like Groklaw can be 100% in | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | > support of whatever IBM has done (other than disagreeing on the question of | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | > whether software should be patentable, which is kind of a moot issue and | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | > there's no legislative process going on anyway; the Bilski judges certainly | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | > won't be influenced by Groklaw). You have criticized a lot of different | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | > companies over the years, and so have I. So what does PJ's loyalty to IBM | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | > (and a couple of other companies, but particularly IBM) suggest? | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | > | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | > Unfortunately there's no way I'll ever be able to convince PJ and I have the | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | > strong impression, based on different exchanges over the years, that it's a | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | > futile effort. | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | Groklaw also defends Apple, which annoys me greatly. I helped Groklaw for 3.5 years and I don't intend to start an argument over this. | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | > With you it's a little different because you did criticize IBM's patent | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | > bullying. | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | > | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | >> I did look at "No Lobbyists As Such" some years ago. < | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | > | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | > It may be difficult to find on the Internet by now, but I can always send | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | > you the PDF if interested. | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | David A sent it to me at the time. | May 01 11:40 |
| schestowitz | Mincer: about Apple: | May 01 12:14 |
| schestowitz | >> Groklaw also defends Apple, which annoys me greatly. I helped Groklaw | May 01 12:14 |
| schestowitz | > for 3.5 years and I don't intend to start an argument over this. < | May 01 12:14 |
| schestowitz | > | May 01 12:14 |
| schestowitz | > I didn't mean to argue with you about Groklaw's allegiances and loyalties, | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > let alone about potential affiliations. | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > Also, you have every right to develop conspiracy theories concerning me but | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > if you look at the things I said during my campaign in 2004/05, the things I | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > wrote in my e-book (published in 2006) and the things I'm saying now on my | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > blog (where I also pointed out that Microsoft's FAT patents are definitely | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > not deserving of a 20-year monopoly etc.), then you'll see that some of what | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > people dislike about my approach was already unpopular earlier on. | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | I've read your blog for several weeks (RSS). If Groklaw distorted your stance, you need to debunk it on the record. | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | >> David A sent it to me at the time. < | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > David Axmark of MySQL? | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | No, but I think the real one doesn't wish to be identified by full name. | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | >> If Groklaw distorted your stance, you need to debunk it on the record. < | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > I have so far not mentioned Groklaw by name and not quoted it verbatim. I | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > made oblique references to its position on IBM/Hercules once or twice. | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > I got contacted by someone who once tried to cooperate with Groklaw, and | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > Bruce Perens was somehow involved with that effort, but Groklaw turned both | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > of them down. That activist has in recent weeks sent me a whole bunch of | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > things about Groklaw censorship etc. I told him I wouldn't necessarily | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > report on this but I said he could always send such material to me in case I | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > plan to use it at some point. In case you might consider doing something | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > about such Groklaw issues, I could try to put him in contact with you. | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | >> I won't be fighting Groklaw, ever. I criticise its censorship though. | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | >> Been in touch with Bill Beebe? < | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > No, Matt V and he copied me on some correspondence with Patrick M. | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > Also, if you haven't seen that blog yet, the Hercules project manager (who's | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > not involved with the TurboHercules company) set up a blog of his own: | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > http://ibmvshercules.com/ | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > I have nothing to do with his blog. I don't know him (never got any email | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > reply from him, nor had any conversation ever). I was told by someone who | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > knows him that he doesn't like me and didn't want me to speak out on behalf | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > of the Hercules community (which I never claimed, but anyway), so he set up | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > his own thing. | May 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | > | May 01 12:16 |
| schestowitz | > In that one he also talks about Groklaw and I think censorship gets | May 01 12:16 |
| schestowitz | > mentioned there, not by the blogger himself but somewhere in the comments. | May 01 12:16 |
| schestowitz | > OK. | May 01 12:16 |
| schestowitz | > | May 01 12:16 |
| schestowitz | > Should I give Matt V your email address and tell him to share with you | May 01 12:16 |
| schestowitz | > whatever material he has about Groklaw censorship? | May 01 12:16 |
| schestowitz | Criticising Groklaw is poor use of time, IMHO. | May 01 12:16 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: like I told you before... Groklaw does some things FOSS/swpats people don't approve of | May 01 12:16 |
| MinceR | ic | May 01 12:16 |
| schestowitz | That's fro Florian | May 01 12:18 |
| schestowitz | Groklaw basically censors even more than I realised | May 01 12:19 |
| schestowitz | But I think he's trying to attack IBM for someone, so he's trying to get me to attack/discredit Groklaw | May 01 12:19 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: could you please email me the logs of #techrights, #boycottnovell and #boycottnovell-social for Friday and Saturday. I've got to run..... bbl | May 01 12:43 |
| MinceR | i'll do so on monday | May 01 12:43 |
| MinceR | the connection i'm on now is slow :> | May 01 12:44 |
| schestowitz | Thanks! | May 01 12:45 |
| schestowitz | Oh and I meant Thurs and Fri, not Sat | May 01 12:45 |
| MinceR | ok | May 01 12:48 |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | May 01 15:59 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of the freedom-hostile | May 01 15:59 | |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/ushabtay/statuses/13177155320 " is Ubuntu 10.04 really increasing Mono dependency? I doubt it, while Dr. Schestowitz believes it does: http://bit.ly/d0qcSi #ubuntu #mono " | May 01 16:11 |
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| schestowitz | Good video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfZFsXfCy6s | May 01 20:03 |
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| schestowitz | This too: http://www.youtube.com/user/Thunderf00t | May 01 20:40 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aPOMUTr1qw | May 03 08:53 |
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| schestowitz | I'm tired of fake FOSS :-) "@schestowitz still waiting for you to consider long strings of hex codes "fake open source" :)" http://identi.ca/conversation/30772519#notice-30871792 | May 03 10:15 |
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| schestowitz | > I've been having trouble with tags over on Slashdot for months now and | May 03 15:40 |
| schestowitz | > the editors write back with a lame 'works for me' In short, I can't tag | May 03 15:40 |
| schestowitz | > articles. I notice today, now that I look, that many of my old tags | May 03 15:40 |
| schestowitz | > have disappeared such as vistafailure, windows and so on. | May 03 15:40 |
| schestowitz | > | May 03 15:40 |
| schestowitz | > I remember that ./ took out vistafailure in general, but left it for | May 03 15:40 |
| schestowitz | > individual users. Maybe Microsoft's editorial control is now greatly | May 03 15:40 |
| schestowitz | > extended. The articles are real shite nowadays, mostly M$ talking | May 03 15:40 |
| schestowitz | > points, but then so is the Dexter / Ann Arbor area, too. | May 03 15:40 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: so you want the logs of #techrights, #boycottnovell and #boycottnovell-social for 2010-04-30 and 2010-05-01, right? | May 03 19:52 |
| MinceR | should special irssi codes be left in or should i filter them out? | May 03 19:52 |
| MinceR | (colors, but apparently in a form that only irssi uses) | May 03 19:52 |
| MinceR | actually my filter leaves bold and such stuff in | May 03 19:52 |
| MinceR | just not the really weird stuff :) | May 03 19:53 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: 29th and 30th | May 03 21:11 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the codes would be OK | May 03 21:11 |
| schestowitz | thanks so much | May 03 21:11 |
| MinceR | ok | May 03 21:11 |
| MinceR | damn, the irssi logging bug hit me on 04-27 | May 03 21:14 |
| MinceR | so everything after that is dumped in one file | May 03 21:14 |
| MinceR | :/ | May 03 21:14 |
| MinceR | sorry | May 03 21:15 |
| schestowitz | I can split that :-) | May 03 21:18 |
| schestowitz | Or merge some | May 03 21:18 |
| MinceR | i'm looking for it now, but it's usually extremely messy | May 03 21:19 |
| MinceR | messages have no indication of which channel they were received on | May 03 21:20 |
| schestowitz | Oh, I see.. | May 03 21:51 |
| MinceR | i have an ancient version of irssi | May 03 21:52 |
| MinceR | i intend to replace this server anyway | May 03 21:52 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know you put it on a server | May 03 21:54 |
| schestowitz | I considered doing that too | May 03 21:54 |
| MinceR | it's my home server | May 03 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Windows Home Data Shredder Server? | May 03 22:01 |
| MinceR | nope | May 03 22:05 |
| MinceR | ubuntu server | May 03 22:05 |
| schestowitz | n00buntu l33ter | May 03 22:13 |
| MinceR | no u | May 03 22:13 |
| MinceR | :> | May 03 22:13 |
| schestowitz | Because of Daemon | May 03 22:14 |
| schestowitz | I was on Mandriva happily | May 03 22:14 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/ealexhudson/statuses/13326329958 "I think @migueldeicaza does stuff like http://is.gd/bSJi8 just to taunt #boycottboy. JS is fine: but MS own JQuery now! #thinkofthechildren" | May 04 01:44 |
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| schestowitz | Yawn... Hardware drivers, the only Linux problem? http://www.go2linux.org/blogs/2010/05/hardware-drivers-only-linux-problem-741. | May 04 09:22 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.itweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=32809:novell-verizon-strike-cloud-deal&catid=77&Itemid=62 | May 05 21:55 |
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| jookia | FUCK PATENTS | May 08 03:51 |
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| enthymeme | <.< | May 08 04:03 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/31441570 "@schestowitz: Why do they need to be held responsible for covering their ass? Maybe in some sense, they validate the patents... but not rly." | May 08 07:47 |
| techrights-local | Title: Brandon Tomlinson (thebwt) 's status on Saturday, 08-May-10 01:03:44 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.67 KB | May 08 07:47 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz That they do. I found their support of H.264 to be troubling. You'd think they'd actually go with OGG, or at least VP8. " http://identi.ca/conversation/31334939#notice-31442029 | May 08 07:50 |
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| schestowitz | But Ubuntu's music store sells MP3s | May 08 07:50 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/andriusbentkus/statuses/13700470103 | May 10 08:51 |
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| schestowitz | brb | May 10 08:51 |
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| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon May 10 08:59:57 2010 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | May 10 08:59 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #boycottnovell and #boycottnovell-social | May 10 08:59 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:20:34 2010 | May 10 08:59 | |
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| techrights-local | Hello World! I'm techrights-local running phIRCe v0.3 | May 10 09:02 |
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| Omar87 | Hi all | May 11 18:45 |
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| yuhong | http://techrights.org/2010/05/08/win32-cannot-be-secured/#comment-90124 | May 13 03:09 |
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| schestowitz | Hey | May 17 01:19 |
| schestowitz | I've just spent 4 hours going through some RMS talks | May 17 01:19 |
| schestowitz | Very repetitive | May 17 01:19 |
| schestowitz | he has like 3 talks in his repertoire: | May 17 01:19 |
| schestowitz | copyright, software patents, and history/primer on FS | May 17 01:20 |
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| scientes | i like his patent talk | May 17 04:43 |
| scientes | they did a guest post on the agenda tech site ars technica | May 17 04:43 |
| scientes | playing right up to what is OK to talk about: adobe and apple | May 17 04:43 |
| scientes | i hope they understand how those sites operate | May 17 04:43 |
| scientes | also, the basics are important | May 17 04:45 |
| scientes | and he does it right | May 17 04:45 |
| scientes | anything exciting? i havn't been here in a while | May 17 05:45 |
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| schestowitz | Nothing too exciting yet | May 17 07:42 |
| scientes | F13 almost out | May 17 08:03 |
| scientes | cool new photo manager | May 17 08:03 |
| scientes | http://yorba.org/shotwell/ | May 17 08:03 |
| techrights-local | Title: Shotwell .::. Size~: 5.67 KB | May 17 08:03 |
| scientes | dead simple | May 17 08:04 |
| scientes | i managed to get cryptodev and openssl w/ linux cryptodev patch built and installed for my sheevaplug | May 17 08:07 |
| scientes | but it doesn't seem like it speeds up sftp | May 17 08:07 |
| scientes | which i thought used openssl and aes | May 17 08:07 |
| scientes | anyways.... | May 17 08:07 |
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| schestowitz | Yeah | May 17 11:59 |
| schestowitz | F13 looks nice | May 17 11:59 |
| schestowitz | I tried Fedora a while back | May 17 11:59 |
| schestowitz | Fedora claims over 24 million users now | May 17 12:00 |
| schestowitz | Some are servers, I think | May 17 12:00 |
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| scientes | http://file.wikileaks.org/file/us-intel-wikileaks.pdf | May 17 18:52 |
| techrights-local | Title: Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type .::. Size~: 0 KB | May 17 18:52 |
| scientes | schestowitz, have you seen this: http://file.wikileaks.org/file/microsoft-spy.pdf | May 17 18:53 |
| techrights-local | Title: Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type .::. Size~: 0 KB | May 17 18:53 |
| scientes | Microsoft Global Criminal Compliance Handbook, | May 17 18:53 |
| scientes | 'The guide provides a "menu" of information Microsoft collects on the users of its online services.' | May 17 18:54 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, it's old news | May 17 19:25 |
| schestowitz | We did several posts on it | May 17 19:25 |
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| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 18 10:50:17 2010 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | May 18 10:50 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #boycottnovell and #boycottnovell-social | May 18 10:50 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:20:34 2010 | May 18 10:50 | |
| -NickServ-You are now identified for schestowitz. | May 18 10:50 | |
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| schestowitz | Hmmm... if I accepted a full-time job somewhere, the site would die.... | May 18 21:12 |
| schestowitz | I wish I could double daytime's duration............ | May 18 21:13 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: are you there? | May 18 21:28 |
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| zoobab | yes | May 19 11:34 |
| schestowitz | Does FFII have any sponsorships/micropayments | May 19 13:13 |
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| schestowitz | We have server speed issues too often now due to load. We can't afford another server :-( | May 20 08:58 |
| schestowitz | Here Comes The Only Real iPhone Killer; And It’s Open Source http://thegadgets.net/technology-news/here-comes-the-only-real-iphone-killer-and-its-open-source/ | May 20 09:05 |
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| schestowitz | [IMG] | May 20 09:05 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPFhN9JwalE | May 25 21:17 |
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| schestowitz | technowhiz blair http://paidcontent.org/article/419-tony-blair-joins-khosla-ventures-as-an-advisor/ | May 26 23:28 |
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| schestowitz | Those banking news are disturbing... too much corruption. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/26/business/26markets.html?partner=rss&emc=rss | May 26 23:29 |
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| cubezzz | wow, we really do :) | May 31 08:07 |
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| schestowitz | :-) | May 31 09:10 |
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| schestowitz | I hate this PR: http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/05/26/national-2010-doodle-4-google-winner-announced | May 31 16:14 |
| techrights-local | Title: National 2010 Doodle 4 Google Winner Announced | WebProNews .::. Size~: 47.72 KB | May 31 16:14 |
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| schestowitz | Google basically tries to associated itself with children | May 31 16:15 |
| schestowitz | "Let them kids play with Goooo goooo...." | May 31 16:15 |
| ender2070 | lol | May 31 16:17 |
| ender2070 | I like Google :) | May 31 16:18 |
| schestowitz | I like it as a tool | May 31 16:36 |
| schestowitz | Saves me time, helps me do everything | May 31 16:36 |
| schestowitz | Checking grammar, looking up maths stuff, writing blog posts, etc. | May 31 16:36 |
| schestowitz | I use it all the time for search | May 31 16:36 |
| schestowitz | and VIDEO | May 31 16:36 |
| schestowitz | I don't care about the rest | May 31 16:36 |
| schestowitz | The rest is a bundle | May 31 16:36 |
| schestowitz | Like "you might also like....[x]" | May 31 16:37 |
| schestowitz | As a video/search user I pay them nothing but give my privacy away | May 31 16:37 |
| schestowitz | I get entertainment, access to data I need (mind assistive) | May 31 16:38 |
| schestowitz | I doubt they can use that much against people with adblock, who actually get a free ride (no page impressions with brainwash in them) | May 31 16:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/197056/FIFA_Tickets.html?tk=rss_news | May 31 16:45 |
| techrights-local | Title: FIFA Warns Over World Cup Ticket Scams - PCWorld .::. Size~: 66.41 KB | May 31 16:46 |
| schestowitz | I hate football now | May 31 16:46 |
| schestowitz | 22 men running on a pitch kicking rubber... it's kind of lame and gay | May 31 16:46 |
| schestowitz | I used to play in teams (got some medals), but most people are tribal spectators with scarves | May 31 16:46 |
| schestowitz | FIFA... tribalism unleashed | May 31 16:47 |
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| ender2070 | the alternative to google is another corporation doing the exact same thing | May 31 17:05 |
| ender2070 | except sucking at search (Bing) | May 31 17:05 |
| ender2070 | another good thing about open source is the ability to fork google shit away fromt hem | May 31 17:05 |
| ender2070 | them* | May 31 17:05 |
| ender2070 | with ms you cant fork | May 31 17:06 |
| ender2070 | you have to reverse engineer their stuff | May 31 17:06 |
| schestowitz | They have data | May 31 17:07 |
| schestowitz | Not just algos | May 31 17:07 |
| schestowitz | So you need code and then perabytes of data | May 31 17:07 |
| schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_east_and_fife/10181972.stm | May 31 17:50 |
| techrights-local | Title: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 75.49 KB | May 31 17:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.techworld.com.au/article/347326/xerox_appoints_burns_chairman?fp=2&fpid=1&rid=1 it still hangs? What does it sell? Patents? | May 31 18:13 |
| techrights-local | Title: Xerox appoints Burns as chairman - appointment, ursula burns, xerox - Techworld .::. Size~: 48.13 KB | May 31 18:13 |
| schestowitz | They sold Acacia's anti-Linux weapon | May 31 18:13 |
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| schestowitz | http://edition.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/05/29/obit.dennis.hopper1/?hpt=C1 | May 31 18:53 |
| techrights-local | Title: 'Easy Rider' actor Dennis Hopper dies - CNN.com .::. Size~: 45.85 KB | May 31 18:53 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Larrabee-is-no-more-blog-entry-says/?kc=rss | May 31 21:18 |
| techrights-local | Title: Intel scraps discrete GPU plans - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 53.85 KB | May 31 21:18 |
| schestowitz | AMD seems to be surviving fine though | May 31 21:19 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL9EtqCCR_Y | May 31 21:50 |
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