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| schestowitz | OK, I think I've officially quit USENET for good now. | Aug 02 06:18 |
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| schestowitz | > Hi Roy, | Aug 02 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 02 06:18 |
| schestowitz | >> Just been to your site for the first time in ages. Glad to see the | Aug 02 06:18 |
| schestowitz | >> family and all! | Aug 02 06:18 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I remember Esme pregnant, now I could see your child. | Aug 02 06:18 |
| schestowitz | Aug 02 06:18 | |
| schestowitz | > Thanks, and glad to hear from you again! Usenet is dead, I am afraid. | Aug 02 06:18 |
| schestowitz | I only quit USENET 2-3 weeks ago. | Aug 02 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > At | Aug 02 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > least aise gets one new post a month or so, and other groups I follow | Aug 02 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > have only a few die-hards (except for comp.lang.python that is, but no | Aug 02 06:18 |
| schestowitz | > surprise because it also gets traffic from a mailing list). | Aug 02 06:18 |
| amarsh04 | I find a few die-hards in aus.dvd and aus.tv.digital | Aug 02 06:31 |
| schestowitz | Some nwsgroups survived, but many ISPs shut down their USENET server/gateway | Aug 02 06:32 |
| schestowitz | Ours included (manchester university) | Aug 02 06:32 |
| amarsh04 | ours was going to discontinue, but too many people complained so we have access to astraweb.com that counts against our quota but is otherwise free with our isp access | Aug 02 06:34 |
| amarsh04 | most local technical discussion is on forums.whirlpool.net.au | Aug 02 06:36 |
| schestowitz | This was they can 'advertise' and censor in a USENET replacement | Aug 02 06:48 |
| schestowitz | No longer decentralised | Aug 02 06:48 |
| MinceR | it's a nice forum though :) | Aug 02 06:53 |
| amarsh04 | whirlpool.net.au has no advertising bar the mention of the hosting provider | Aug 02 07:03 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: I'm used to seeing complaints about Telstra there | Aug 02 08:02 |
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| schestowitz | http://lwn.net/Articles/398571/ | Aug 04 11:22 |
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| techrights-local | Hello World! I'm techrights-local running phIRCe v0.3 | Aug 04 11:22 |
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| schestowitz | > If you thought automated forum postings were bad, have a look at how the | Aug 06 06:38 |
| schestowitz | > people on Fraud Street paint pictures for each other (via Groklaw News Picks) | Aug 06 06:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 06 06:38 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.nanex.net/FlashCrash/CCircleDay.html | Aug 06 06:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 06 06:38 |
| schestowitz | > Because Microsoft is a master of both stock market fraud and other illusions, | Aug 06 06:38 |
| schestowitz | > we can be sure they practice this with their "partners" like Baystar Capital, | Aug 06 06:38 |
| schestowitz | > Royal Canadian Bank, Wamu and others. I wonder if some of the "bots" are | Aug 06 06:38 |
| schestowitz | > broken Windows PCs. Anyway you look at it, these robot transactions show | Aug 06 06:38 |
| schestowitz | > that far too many people are treating investments like some kind of slot | Aug 06 06:38 |
| schestowitz | > machine. | Aug 06 06:38 |
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| schestowitz | Re: players in the SCO case | Aug 06 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > I'm getting confused regarding the players in SCO versus "Linux". | Aug 06 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > Could you add a section to your Wiki listing the peops and a brief | Aug 06 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > description of their role ? | Aug 06 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 06 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > G. Gervaise Davis was scheduled to appear live for SCO, but SCO opens | Aug 06 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > the day by saying they won't be calling him after all. The judge | Aug 06 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > inquires why, and it leads to this hilarious exchange between the | Aug 06 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > judge, SCO's lawyer Stuart Singer and Novell's lawyer Michael Jacobs | Aug 06 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > .. | Aug 06 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 06 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100723193911450 | Aug 06 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 06 11:25 |
| techrights-local | Title: Groklaw - SCO v Novell Trial Transcripts as text, Day 4 - Messman, Levine, Mohan, Michels, Wilt, Broderick .::. Size~: 303.15 KB | Aug 06 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > A brief BIO, for instance this ... | Aug 06 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 06 11:25 |
| schestowitz | > http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/acoas/nominations/davisiii.pdf | Aug 06 11:25 |
| techrights-local | Title: UNT Libraries: CyberCemetery Home .::. Size~: 5.62 KB | Aug 06 11:25 |
| schestowitz | This is the type of thing PJ must definitely be encouraged to document. When it comes to SCO, I mostly follow Groklaw's analysis. | Aug 06 11:25 |
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| schestowitz | Re: strange IP traffic | Aug 06 14:25 |
| schestowitz | > Is this normal in Windows, I keep getting lots of NBSTAT queries ? | Aug 06 14:25 |
| schestowitz | > --- | Aug 06 14:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 06 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > 192.168.0.1 = Router | Aug 06 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > 192.168.0.62 = Client | Aug 06 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > --- | Aug 06 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 06 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > 192.168.0.1 -> 192.168.0.62NBNSName query NBSTAT | Aug 06 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > 192.168.0.62 ->192.168.0.1ICMPDestination unreachable (Port unreachable) | Aug 06 14:26 |
| schestowitz | Any idea? | Aug 06 14:26 |
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| schestowitz | Ouch. TechDirt doesn't buy IBM's side: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100801/18221910441.shtml | Aug 08 22:16 |
| techrights-local | Title: Is Microsoft Behind Antitrust Claims Against Pretty Much Everyone Else Now? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 42.43 KB | Aug 08 22:16 |
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| tessier_ | Weird. I just noticed the topic in #bn | Aug 09 06:20 |
| tessier_ | Three channels now? Hrm. | Aug 09 06:20 |
| tessier_ | There is barely enough activity for one. | Aug 09 06:20 |
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| schestowitz | Yeah | Aug 09 06:58 |
| schestowitz | We never quite got the conversation going on here, -social is good for offbeat stuff | Aug 09 06:59 |
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| Ziomatrix | hi folks | Aug 09 18:17 |
| schestowitz | Yo | Aug 09 18:19 |
| schestowitz | I suppose we could try to move towards this channel at some stage | Aug 09 18:19 |
| schestowitz | The issue is, people assume things take place only in the old name | Aug 09 18:19 |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: I haven't kept track of the other one for 20 minutes | Aug 09 18:19 |
| schestowitz | Ryan messed up my day | Aug 09 18:20 |
| schestowitz | And I prefer to be absent to him than to ignore him | Aug 09 18:20 |
| Ziomatrix | yea, I can see how he rerails the channel subject wise. How do you know his first name anyway>? | Aug 09 18:21 |
| Ziomatrix | you should still post articles though | Aug 09 18:23 |
| Ziomatrix | maybe from your [BNTwitter] account | Aug 09 18:23 |
| schestowitz | It says in his machine name | Aug 09 18:32 |
| schestowitz | "ryan" | Aug 09 18:32 |
| schestowitz | [18:23] <Ziomatrix> maybe from your [BNTwitter] account | Aug 09 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: yeah, that's what I do | Aug 09 18:33 |
| schestowitz | I got distracted | Aug 09 18:33 |
| schestowitz | And lost pace | Aug 09 18:33 |
| schestowitz | In recent days we got like 1MB logs/day | Aug 09 18:33 |
| schestowitz | I didn't make many posts as a result | Aug 09 18:33 |
| schestowitz | I'm writing about BIllG at the moment | Aug 09 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Important warnings about the PR in the press (general "rich person's" fantasy for the viewers) | Aug 09 18:34 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: btw, do you know what I find weird about the whole Mark Hurd thing, HP stock plummeted once it was read he was forced to resign. It seems most investors liked what Hurd did for HP so I'm stuck wondering why the BoD wants to give him the boot so quickly? | Aug 09 18:57 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/45587582 "@schestowitz Normal is a setting on a dishwasher" :-) | Aug 09 19:03 |
| techrights-local | Title: Jim Morgan (jimmorgan)'s status on Monday, 09-Aug-10 17:25:53 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 7.7 KB | Aug 09 19:03 |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: maybe someone planned to boobytrap him? | Aug 09 19:04 |
| schestowitz | Or short-selling? | Aug 09 19:04 |
| schestowitz | He was a Samson :-) | Aug 09 19:04 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz normal = accepting status quo ... i'd be happy to do that if we lived in a perfect world" | Aug 09 19:04 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/45254206#notice-45588622 | Aug 09 19:04 |
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| schestowitz | Context there | Aug 09 19:04 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: and you're insinuating the contractor was Delaila? | Aug 09 19:05 |
| Ziomatrix | interesting quote you put at the end of this article: http://techrights.org/2010/08/09/hurd-fraud-scandal-and-microsoft-executives/ | Aug 09 19:14 |
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| Ziomatrix | and Jodie Fisher!? I never saw that coming, I wonder why the rumors of a bruhaha of a contractor negotiating on behalf of WebOS were brought up. Is this even solid facts yet? | Aug 09 19:15 |
| schestowitz | Fontana from Red Hat: "that reminds me of when we first met and you asked me why I was working as a patent lawyer if I hated #swpats" http://twitter.com/richardfontana/statuses/20709074943 | Aug 09 19:17 |
| schestowitz | "@bkuhn Part of the answer is vast majority of what I do (I'd say 99% of my time) is not #swpats work (in narrow sense we mean here)" http://twitter.com/richardfontana/statuses/20714613168 | Aug 09 19:17 |
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| schestowitz | Jodie Fisher is the new Monica :-) | Aug 09 19:17 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/45591202@schestowitz http://www.scribd.com/doc/35599242/Verizon-Google-Legislative-Framework-Proposal | Aug 09 19:18 |
| techrights-local | Title: Jan Wildeboer (jwildeboer)'s status on Monday, 09-Aug-10 18:05:26 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.7 KB | Aug 09 19:18 |
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| schestowitz | Why do Red hat people contact me? | Aug 09 19:19 |
| schestowitz | It looks bad, like I'm in some kind of relationship with them | Aug 09 19:19 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz Talk about condensing my feelings in a quote! Hmm, are those flames I feel in my heart? :D" http://identi.ca/conversation/45257815#notice-45591572 | Aug 09 19:20 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-10805090 | Aug 10 07:15 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: I got your messages | Aug 10 17:03 |
| schestowitz | I have a quick question | Aug 10 17:03 |
| schestowitz | I have set up auto-responders today | Aug 10 17:03 |
| schestowitz | And I think it's not immune to mailing lists mailed it | Aug 10 17:04 |
| schestowitz | Did you get auto-responses when mailing to [ffii] | Aug 10 17:04 |
| schestowitz | ? | Aug 10 17:04 |
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| Ziomatrix | hey | Aug 10 17:21 |
| Ziomatrix | so did hear the news that now South Korea is cracking down on Google? | Aug 10 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Really? | Aug 10 17:22 |
| schestowitz | They also did Microsoft | Aug 10 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Twice in 2009 | Aug 10 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Maybe once in 2008 | Aug 10 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Intel too | Aug 10 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Found guilty | Aug 10 17:22 |
| schestowitz | SKorea is a well developed and ambitious nation | Aug 10 17:22 |
| schestowitz | I reckon China will join Taiwan and also use antitrust | Aug 10 17:22 |
| schestowitz | They don't need Intel and Microsoft running their digital affairs | Aug 10 17:22 |
| Ziomatrix | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6791BR20100810 | Aug 10 17:24 |
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| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: it would be interesting if Bejing and Tepei help prop up VIA | Aug 10 17:25 |
| schestowitz | Isn't that southern? | Aug 10 17:26 |
| schestowitz | Like south of .kr and .cn? | Aug 10 17:26 |
| Ziomatrix | another Palm exec and one who stayed with the company over a decade leaves: http://www.precentral.net/peter-skillman-leaves-palm-one-hurts | Aug 10 17:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Peter Skillman leaves Palm, this one hurts | PreCentral.net .::. Size~: 115.34 KB | Aug 10 17:26 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VIA_Technologies | Aug 10 17:26 |
| schestowitz | Taiwan | Aug 10 17:26 |
| Ziomatrix | and is replaced by someone from Sony Erricson!? http://www.precentral.net/palm-hires-senior-director-product-management | Aug 10 17:26 |
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| schestowitz | Sony Erricson do Android | Aug 10 17:27 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: true, but this is for product design. I guess the whole riverstone design concept is going to be thrown out the window. Sad because I like the smooth compactness of my Pre Plus. | Aug 10 17:27 |
| Ziomatrix | future Palm designs will become HTC and Motorolaesque bricks | Aug 10 17:28 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: PRC also has their own state sponsored fab the Loongson CPU | Aug 10 17:29 |
| schestowitz | PRC? | Aug 10 17:32 |
| schestowitz | Made me think of Palm files | Aug 10 17:32 |
| MinceR | and prestige classes in D&D 3.x :> | Aug 10 17:33 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: lol I mean People's Republic of China. Classic Palm files go by .prc | Aug 10 17:34 |
| Ziomatrix | that is a funny coincidence | Aug 10 17:34 |
| Ziomatrix | MinceR: do you like 4th edition? | Aug 10 17:35 |
| MinceR | no, i don't like D&D Miniatures 4th Edition | Aug 10 17:37 |
| MinceR | bbl | Aug 10 17:38 |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: I still use old Palm daily | Aug 10 17:48 |
| schestowitz | With jpilot | Aug 10 17:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/10/business/energy-environment/10yuan.html?_r=1 | Aug 10 17:55 |
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| schestowitz | How timely | Aug 10 17:55 |
| schestowitz | In Crackdown on Energy Use, China to Shut 2,000 Factories | Aug 10 17:55 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: nice I have been thinking about buying the Palm Emulator from MotionApps, but I don't feel like paying towards Access IP and some of the apps such as NuviRemote won't work anyway with no IR port | Aug 10 17:58 |
| schestowitz | yeah, no reason to feed ACCESS | Aug 10 17:58 |
| schestowitz | You could get old Palms from ebay | Aug 10 17:58 |
| schestowitz | I have two | Aug 10 17:58 |
| schestowitz | I don't know if Pre plays nice with Linux desktops | Aug 10 17:59 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: you can download the nessisary QT Framework and XLib running from a remote server to get OpenOffice suite running: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JsulCV4nEQ | Aug 10 18:01 |
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| schestowitz | /me adds https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6623/ | Aug 10 18:01 |
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| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: I heard of that | Aug 10 18:01 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: I thought I read about the Pre being able to boot up a Linux desktop after some major rooting but I guess not, yet. | Aug 10 18:13 |
| schestowitz | OpenMoko could do that | Aug 10 18:13 |
| schestowitz | E17 | Aug 10 18:13 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: hopefully QT and XLib get more integrated into the WebOS API in the future though. | Aug 10 18:13 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: OpenMoko is basically a Linux desktop you can boot on certain phones including the Treo 750 | Aug 10 18:14 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: of course you basically reformat the phone to do it, and it only works with GSM | Aug 10 18:16 |
| schestowitz | Is it still around? | Aug 10 18:16 |
| schestowitz | I think some schools in Brazil use it | Aug 10 18:16 |
| schestowitz | To educate phone hac0ers | Aug 10 18:16 |
| amarsh04 | join #openmoko if interested | Aug 10 18:18 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: the company that was behind the venture went under but the distro and a community of devs still lives | Aug 10 18:24 |
| schestowitz | FIC? | Aug 10 18:24 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/ma1/status/19660159603 | Aug 10 18:25 |
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| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: yea the company behind the Freerunner | Aug 10 18:25 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: shame since I read they were aiming for open hardware specs as well as software | Aug 10 18:26 |
| schestowitz | They have CADs | Aug 10 18:26 |
| schestowitz | People can still use their work | Aug 10 18:26 |
| schestowitz | Pick up where they left | Aug 10 18:26 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: interesting how their desktop GUI kind of resembles Android: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page | Aug 10 18:27 |
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| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: nvm thats because they got an Android port for the Freerunner | Aug 10 18:28 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: it seems you can append Openmoko features to Debian and even Android distros. Here is the original: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/QtMoko I wonder if a WebOS port can be done? | Aug 10 18:29 |
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| schestowitz | Android can run n it | Aug 10 18:32 |
| schestowitz | Wait, you beat me to it | Aug 10 18:32 |
| schestowitz | tessier has a freerunner | Aug 10 18:32 |
| Ziomatrix | Here is an interesting comparison from last year with what WebOS offered in 2009 and Openmoko: http://seecsopenmobile.wordpress.com/2009/02/26/development-using-openmoko-framework-vs-palm-pre-webos/ since then QT is being worked into the WebOS framework along with (Adobe Flash?). | Aug 10 18:33 |
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| Ziomatrix | WebOS still lacks GTK compatibility to be able to port and run most Linux apps though | Aug 10 18:34 |
| schestowitz | Pre seems like just Linux at the guts | Aug 10 18:36 |
| Ziomatrix | also WebOS now has Native development with the PDK, but not all are able to use it since Palm is patching up security permissions (being released in patch 1.4.5) before releasing it more openly. | Aug 10 18:37 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: it is Linux when it comes down to the kernel and firmware, but with with a very eloquent API and interface overlay like OSX, but more open to devs. | Aug 10 18:38 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: it would be better though if you ask an actual WebOS developer on the nitty gritty of its internals. I suggest even looking into Precentral as many homebrew developers hang out there, there is even the #webos-internals channel. But I think you need to register to be able to chat there. | Aug 10 18:42 |
| schestowitz | <Ziomatrix> also WebOS now has Native development with the PDK, but not all are able to use it since Palm is patching up security permissions (being released in patch 1.4.5) before releasing it more openly. | Aug 10 18:48 |
| schestowitz | I think when they didn't meet sales target | Aug 10 18:48 |
| schestowitz | I promote their device so muc | Aug 10 18:49 |
| schestowitz | And defended from Apple's patent abus | Aug 10 18:49 |
| schestowitz | But it was sold to HP, which I dislike | Aug 10 18:49 |
| schestowitz | >>> But I think you need to register to be able to chat there. | Aug 10 18:49 |
| schestowitz | Open... but registration needd | Aug 10 18:50 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: Palm claims it is to prevent anyone from executing malicious code since at the time of the release of the PDK there were no permissions worked in to prevent a program from accessing your contacts, account data and any secured cache from browsing. | Aug 10 18:53 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: that should change more so with a wider rollout of patch 1.4.5. But Palm still is like Google where they have this you got your's (homebrew) and I got mine (core developers) philosophy. Except Palm is giving more to the homebrewer and user for the time being. | Aug 10 18:54 |
| schestowitz | Are they still marketing? | Aug 10 18:55 |
| schestowitz | No word since HP snapped them | Aug 10 18:55 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: yes they are, they have done multiple application sales, even as going far as subsidizing developers. Sprint is releasing 1.4.5 sometime tomorrow (its already in most of Europe) and they are negotiate with carriers to sell future devices. | Aug 10 18:57 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: besides that, exec reshuffling and talks about how they'll continue to support WebOS (with no clear info yet) not much else is going on | Aug 10 18:58 |
| schestowitz | Are they still on with the contest? | Aug 10 18:58 |
| schestowitz | $100k or a million for best app? | Aug 10 18:58 |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: today I used an Hp scanner | Aug 10 18:58 |
| schestowitz | The indurtial sized one | Aug 10 18:58 |
| schestowitz | It messed up | Aug 10 18:58 |
| schestowitz | Froze/screwed up | Aug 10 18:59 |
| schestowitz | Pissed me off greatly | Aug 10 18:59 |
| schestowitz | Their panel OS is rubbish too | Aug 10 18:59 |
| schestowitz | So I thought of WebOS put therre | Aug 10 18:59 |
| schestowitz | But HP says little about it | Aug 10 18:59 |
| schestowitz | ANd adding deep colour would make it more expensive too | Aug 10 18:59 |
| tessier | schestowitz: I sold my freerunner | Aug 10 19:00 |
| tessier | It wasn't nearly as useful as I had hoped when I bought it two summers ago. It sat around completely unused for a year and a half. Sold it a few months ago. | Aug 10 19:00 |
| tessier | I was bummed. | Aug 10 19:00 |
| tessier | Bought it for almost $500. Sold it for $150. Carried it on me maybe two days. :( | Aug 10 19:00 |
| tessier | The price of being an early adopter. | Aug 10 19:00 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: it should have ended sometime in July 2010 but they haven't updated the page: http://developer.palm.com/index.php?id=1841 I guess the aquisition has put the results on hold | Aug 10 19:00 |
| Ziomatrix | tessier: how did you find it? | Aug 10 19:01 |
| tessier | Ziomatrix: Useless at the time. | Aug 10 19:01 |
| tessier | Ziomatrix: Maybe it has improved but I understand the whole project has lost steam by now. | Aug 10 19:01 |
| Ziomatrix | tessier: Whats your opinion on Palm not being completely open about releasing the PDK to devs until security permissions are added? From what I understand PDK brings full C/C++ OpenGL ES access to core graphics libraries and hardware framework to WebOS btw. | Aug 10 19:03 |
| Ziomatrix | tessier: you think that puts them in the same league as Google with Android? | Aug 10 19:03 |
| Ziomatrix | tessier: from what I understand its security permissions to prevent PDK apps from accessing the contacts and communication features within WebOS to utilize automatically. In laymans terms to me they it seems they are concerned about their phones turning into zombies in the wrong hands. | Aug 10 19:05 |
| Ziomatrix | tessier: or do you think they are poor excuses much like what Sony gave to remove the OtherOS feature from PS3? | Aug 10 19:06 |
| schestowitz | tessier: FSF recommended Freerunner publicly. It helped show free phone can and so exist, with design still as CC licence | Aug 10 19:07 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/jobs/2010/08/09/woman-in-hurd-harassment-case-surprised-by-departure-40089765/ | Aug 10 19:07 |
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| schestowitz | Hurd was never a big Linux fan, either, AFAIK | Aug 10 19:07 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: you should listen to the interview with HP's CTO of "Gaming" (former VoodooPC CEO Rahul Sood: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/WORPodcasts/~3/oRYFKyE1nPE/web_os_radio_10_rahul_sood_and_the_4_kazoos He seems to hint at WebOS integration with printers and other devices along with gaming. | Aug 10 19:10 |
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| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: not just any woman, Jodie Fischer. I'm suprised E! hasn't plastered this event yet. | Aug 10 19:10 |
| tessier | Ziomatrix: No idea about Palm. I used to be a huge Palm fan. I gave up on them after they were stagnant for years. | Aug 10 19:11 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: and BS, she wanted the money and publicity | Aug 10 19:11 |
| tessier | schestowitz: A free phone is great but unfortunately it also has to work. Which the Freerunner did not at the time of my purchase. My fault. I should have better understood the state of the project. It was (and probably still is) for hackers only. I don't have time for phone hacking. Too many other projects. And in the meantime need a working phone. | Aug 10 19:11 |
| Ziomatrix | and here comes the Walstreet Journal possible revisin*erm "revisiting" history: http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2010/08/10/jodie-fisher-will-likely-get-300000-thank-you-notes/ | Aug 10 19:14 |
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| Ziomatrix | even though I can't blame them if indeed he was the cut throat cost cutting CEO this article makes him out to be. I still think the CEO before him, Carly Foirina, was the worst any HP employee and aquisition of theirs' ever faced. | Aug 10 19:16 |
| Ziomatrix | She pretty much poached Compaq and CDW as well as putting HP's enterprise Unix development dead in its tracks | Aug 10 19:17 |
| Ziomatrix | Also presided over laying off 15,000 employees, she intended to include 3,000 managerial layoffs but that nevered occured. "Hell has no fury like a woman scorned." | Aug 10 19:20 |
| Ziomatrix | did I get muted? | Aug 10 19:21 |
| *Ziomatrix /rant | Aug 10 19:22 | |
| schestowitz | http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid80_gci1518106,00.html | Aug 10 19:26 |
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| schestowitz | What's her significance anyway? | Aug 10 19:27 |
| schestowitz | Who's she? | Aug 10 19:27 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: She was the first female American CEO of a major Fortune 500 company | Aug 10 19:27 |
| schestowitz | i c | Aug 10 19:27 |
| schestowitz | Not this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodie_Fisher | Aug 10 19:28 |
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| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: no this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carly_Fiorina | Aug 10 19:29 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.nbc.com/Age_of_Love/bios/bio_jodie.shtml | Aug 10 19:29 |
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| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: I know | Aug 10 19:29 |
| schestowitz | But I wasn't talking about Florina | Aug 10 19:29 |
| schestowitz | Spy | Aug 10 19:29 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodie_Fisher | Aug 10 19:30 |
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| schestowitz | "In August 2010, she was identified as the filer of a sexual harassment complaint against Mark Hurd. After an internal investigation he resigned as CEO of Hewlett-Packard for expense-account irregularities.[6]" | Aug 10 19:30 |
| schestowitz | I guess her porfolio will extend now | Aug 10 19:30 |
| schestowitz | She brought down someone and made some buzz | Aug 10 19:30 |
| schestowitz | Seems like some failed actress | Aug 10 19:30 |
| schestowitz | http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0167546/ | Aug 10 19:31 |
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| schestowitz | Few films in 20 years | Aug 10 19:31 |
| schestowitz | Obscure | Aug 10 19:31 |
| schestowitz | And like one in 2 years | Aug 10 19:31 |
| Ziomatrix | lol | Aug 10 19:31 |
| schestowitz | Maybe she seduced him | Aug 10 19:33 |
| schestowitz | He doesn't seem like a pervert | Aug 10 19:33 |
| schestowitz | And she -- she's a single mom from Texas or something | Aug 10 19:33 |
| schestowitz | Past her prime | Aug 10 19:33 |
| schestowitz | I don't know the background to this case | Aug 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Like what her role in HP was... | Aug 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKSGE6780JI20100809 | Aug 10 19:36 |
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| schestowitz | Novell will need to sell | Aug 10 19:36 |
| schestowitz | It's like SCO now... taking 6 months so fare | Aug 10 19:36 |
| schestowitz | *far | Aug 10 19:36 |
| schestowitz | Novell is hanging on | Aug 10 19:36 |
| schestowitz | I want SUSE to be liberated from Novell | Aug 10 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Mark is indeed going to buy it | Aug 10 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Or IBM | Aug 10 19:37 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: she was a greeter for exec events | Aug 10 19:37 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* | Aug 10 19:43 |
| schestowitz | I love it when so-called 'actors' fall to the bottom of the chain | Aug 10 19:43 |
| MinceR | re | Aug 10 19:43 |
| schestowitz | I often speak to people at the gym about what happens to athletes and MAFIAA slaves after their prime time | Aug 10 19:43 |
| schestowitz | Unless they are at the top, it's not pretty | Aug 10 19:43 |
| schestowitz | Coaches, bar singers, etc. | Aug 10 19:44 |
| schestowitz | Show business is not as glamorous as people are led to believe, esp. if they take the uber-star as examples and discard the rest. I guess Julia didn't accept Hurd with greetings | Aug 10 19:44 |
| MinceR | and then they die :> | Aug 10 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Or turn to pr0n | Aug 10 19:46 |
| MinceR | pr0n is the path to immortality? :> | Aug 10 19:46 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/45368752#notice-45706281 "Wow, how come she was born in 1960? The word cougar comes to mind. A hot babe, for sure. ;-)" | Aug 10 19:56 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: to whom? | Aug 10 19:56 |
| schestowitz | The ex-actress? | Aug 10 19:57 |
| MinceR | to athletes and MAFIAA slaves | Aug 10 19:57 |
| MinceR | apparently | Aug 10 19:57 |
| schestowitz | It's true though | Aug 10 19:57 |
| schestowitz | They turn low profile (if you ever remember their 15 minutes of fame | Aug 10 19:57 |
| schestowitz | Some file for bankruptcy | Aug 10 19:58 |
| schestowitz | Even Mike Tyson | Aug 10 19:58 |
| schestowitz | The businessmen who exploit them make all the money, taking advantage of stupidity and search for fame alone from the talented ones | Aug 10 19:58 |
| schestowitz | In business it's the VCs that hoard all the money | Aug 10 19:58 |
| schestowitz | So when mysql sold for a billion, Florian told that monty made just some millions | Aug 10 19:59 |
| schestowitz | Can't recall the exact # though | Aug 10 19:59 |
| schestowitz | Now you have some NY-based men claiming to have funded FB at the start | Aug 10 19:59 |
| schestowitz | So he wants his investment backl | Aug 10 19:59 |
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| schestowitz | Heh. Take it there and keep it there. | Aug 11 10:08 |
| schestowitz | Let them choke on it | Aug 11 10:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-10912376 | Aug 11 12:46 |
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| schestowitz | First the BBC unleashes botnets | Aug 11 12:46 |
| schestowitz | For a TV show | Aug 11 12:46 |
| schestowitz | And now this............ | Aug 11 12:46 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/45457053#notice-45796082 "@schestowitz Why does Google want to help Linux? And why does Free Linux want to help the Unfree Android?" | Aug 11 14:30 |
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| schestowitz | "@schestowitz I disagree, I think you will sell more if you don't use the word Linux. People get scared when you mention Unix/Linux." | Aug 11 14:31 |
| schestowitz | That's the whole point. Google needs to fix the perception around "Linux". | Aug 11 14:31 |
| schestowitz | "can't sign the petition if non-US. Google is not a US-only company..." http://identi.ca/conversation/45454231#notice-45796758 | Aug 11 14:32 |
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| schestowitz | Well, the CIA is US-only, that'\s where the snoops are prevalent | Aug 11 14:32 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKc_GkqMdDs | Aug 11 14:59 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/41469/20100806/blackberry-android-applications-iphone-apple-google-smartphones-hp-palm.htm | Aug 11 17:12 |
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| schestowitz | I hate those brand vs brand articles | Aug 11 17:12 |
| schestowitz | It's never about philosophy/terms | Aug 11 17:12 |
| schestowitz | They deliberately evade the hard questions these way | Aug 11 17:12 |
| schestowitz | Like in elections with two camps/faces | Aug 11 17:12 |
| schestowitz | Cool: http://bitelia.com/2010/08/microsoft-y-el-gobierno-de-colombia | Aug 11 17:56 |
| schestowitz | tessier: it's about Vietnam | Aug 11 17:56 |
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| schestowitz | Many sites linked to this post and also found other about other countries where Gates lobbies versus F/LOSS | Aug 11 17:56 |
| schestowitz | There's also the Colombia one... | Aug 11 17:57 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/45476331#notice-45815402 "And then parlays into GOOG w/ VERIZON where we do a 180 degree turn and stuff em' in and promote it as success?" | Aug 11 18:08 |
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| schestowitz | Mac news sites are so bloody dumb: http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/26245/ | Aug 11 18:16 |
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| schestowitz | "Pirated" | Aug 11 18:16 |
| schestowitz | http://www.esecurityplanet.com/features/article.php/3897711/LinuxCon-Exploits-Show-Why-Linux-Is-Vulnerable.htm | Aug 11 19:20 |
| schestowitz | DiBona from Google replied. | Aug 11 20:05 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz @jwildeboer Happy to put you in touch with the team. They were a bit demoralized at not being pulled for the recent kernel rev." http://twitter.com/cdibona/statuses/20902800843 | Aug 11 20:05 |
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| schestowitz | Had some hard-drove issues last night | Aug 12 06:46 |
| schestowitz | Odd one | Aug 12 06:46 |
| schestowitz | I didn't quote realise that VirtualBox adopted the 'open' core model: http://www.twit.tv/floss130 | Aug 12 07:48 |
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| schestowitz | CPU hog? | Aug 12 09:07 |
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| oiaohm | Wonder if I should use this channel more. | Aug 12 11:05 |
| schestowitz | Yes. | Aug 12 11:06 |
| schestowitz | That's what I'm trying to do | Aug 12 11:06 |
| schestowitz | Especially if it's not about Novell | Aug 12 11:06 |
| schestowitz | At some stage the identica+twitter bots will hopefully move here too\ | Aug 12 11:06 |
| schestowitz | http://www.katonda.com/blog/12/2010/1660 | Aug 12 11:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why I won't buy a Dell Streak | Katonda .::. Size~: 23.51 KB | Aug 12 11:11 |
| schestowitz | Fair points there | Aug 12 11:11 |
| schestowitz | Odd form factor | Aug 12 11:11 |
| schestowitz | Not pocket sized... nor big enough for work to get done | Aug 12 11:12 |
| oiaohm | So my Linux news move here. | Aug 12 11:12 |
| oiaohm | Not like I bring in much Novell stuff schestowitz | Aug 12 11:12 |
| schestowitz | Aaron Seigo: '"some of my best friends are black!" or "i know some gay people" ... meh ... the problem remains until we stop emphasizing the differences.' http://identi.ca/ | Aug 12 11:13 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: yeah, Linux news here... | Aug 12 11:14 |
| schestowitz | -Social is good for gossip, I guess. | Aug 12 11:14 |
| oiaohm | And trouble. schestowitz | Aug 12 11:14 |
| schestowitz | Like when we talk behind ryan's back if he blabbers :-) | Aug 12 11:14 |
| oiaohm | http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/360208/vodafone-capitulates-over-htc-desire-upgrades | Aug 12 11:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Vodafone capitulates over HTC Desire "upgrades" | News | PC Pro .::. Size~: 43.87 KB | Aug 12 11:16 |
| oiaohm | Android is already starting to disrupt phone carriers ways of doing business. | Aug 12 11:16 |
| schestowitz | Didn't smybian too? | Aug 12 11:17 |
| schestowitz | *ym | Aug 12 11:17 |
| oiaohm | Not at this level. | Aug 12 11:18 |
| schestowitz | Android increases Web/app monoculture | Aug 12 11:18 |
| schestowitz | Google being at the centre | Aug 12 11:18 |
| schestowitz | Windows is dad beef here | Aug 12 11:18 |
| schestowitz | *dead | Aug 12 11:18 |
| oiaohm | Customers are expecting power effective clients without crap installed running in background. | Aug 12 11:18 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is just trying to tax Android now | Aug 12 11:18 |
| oiaohm | With android. | Aug 12 11:18 |
| schestowitz | It gave up on competing with products | Aug 12 11:18 |
| oiaohm | Even if MS does tax everything competing against them there income will still reduce massively. | Aug 12 11:19 |
| oiaohm | Problem for MS is patents are only 20 years. | Aug 12 11:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-10924682 | Aug 12 11:19 |
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| oiaohm | And it costs R&D to make more. | Aug 12 11:19 |
| schestowitz | To write applications | Aug 12 11:20 |
| schestowitz | But still, they try... | Aug 12 11:20 |
| schestowitz | Techrights/BN is mostly about the software patents issue | Aug 12 11:20 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/185-jennifer-cloer/343204-a-guest-post-from-ibms-jean-staten-healy | Aug 12 11:22 |
| schestowitz | "Not to be pedantic ... but this guest post by Ms. Healy incorrectly implies that Apple's iOS is based on Linux and/or is open source. This of course is not the case at all. It is proprietary with the exception of its Darwin/BSD core." | Aug 12 11:22 |
| oiaohm | And cups don't forget cups without that Apple would barely be able to print schestowitz | Aug 12 11:25 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Aug 12 11:30 |
| schestowitz | Well, they didn't ruin it for Linux | Aug 12 11:30 |
| schestowitz | Apple bought lots of stuff, but not as much as Google had | Aug 12 11:31 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifvp3Fxi7Uo | Aug 12 12:01 |
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| schestowitz | Shocking | Aug 12 12:01 |
| oiaohm | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100811/01343110578.shtml Ok this is getting scary. | Aug 12 12:47 |
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| oiaohm | Suing to get ruling before you have done anything. | Aug 12 12:47 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/crosbie/statuses/20964655447 " http://eff.org/r.p76 @eff get/give a clue why #NetNeutrality IS a trojan horse for regulatory capture, and threat to #Internet. @schestowitz " | Aug 12 16:10 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/Doppeldenk/statuses/20963575819 | Aug 12 16:10 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/45556280#notice-45918165 "echnically it's not skynet until they put guns on them :|" | Aug 12 16:11 |
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| schestowitz | "rootkits optional? :D #fucksony #fucksonysoooomuch " http://identi.ca/conversation/45558269#notice-45918269 | Aug 12 16:12 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/11/technology/11google.html?_r=1 | Aug 12 16:27 |
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| draoan | tgyhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh bnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn0 | Aug 12 16:28 |
| schestowitz | ^_^ | Aug 12 16:29 |
| schestowitz | Cleaning the keyboard? | Aug 12 16:29 |
| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODQ4NQ | Aug 12 17:29 |
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| schestowitz | http://easylinuxcds.com/blog/?p=3992 Mildly interesting | Aug 12 18:43 |
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| schestowitz | http://blog.ixproject.org/?p=6 #iphonelinux | Aug 12 18:44 |
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| schestowitz | hypeX | Aug 12 18:44 |
| schestowitz | http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/11/exclusive-sony-ericsson-to-introduce-android-3-0-gaming-platfor/ | Aug 12 19:19 |
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| Aondo | hmm isnt pdf supposed to be some sort of standard? | Aug 12 21:20 |
| Aondo | ironicly standard.no has some files im unable to open, without acrobat reader 9.0 it says | Aug 12 21:20 |
| MinceR | it's standard in the Adobe (and m$) way | Aug 12 21:21 |
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| schestowitz | Yeah | Aug 12 21:42 |
| schestowitz | ISO blessed it but nobody blesses ISO anymore | Aug 12 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Same for MPEG4 | Aug 12 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Norway is still relatively progressive standards wise | Aug 12 21:43 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/crosbie/statuses/20999045259 "We are actually in the midst of a developing #copyright & #patent crisis, irrespective of the uncertainty concerning #swpats." | Aug 12 21:47 |
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| schestowitz | Glyn's neighbourhood connects reformists with lawyers who are progressive | Aug 12 22:36 |
| Aondo | it was actually a friend of mine with osx that said he was unable to open the same pdf's and asked me if i was able to open them on any viewer in linux | Aug 12 22:37 |
| Aondo | since he was unable too | Aug 12 22:37 |
| schestowitz | Macs fail @ PDF now? | Aug 12 22:39 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?doc_id=195529§ion_id=466 | Aug 12 23:39 |
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| schestowitz | "Just as in the early days of blogging people were keen to publicize examples of people “fired for blogging” when actually they were fired for something else but a blog was involved in learning about it, so we see stories that blame social media for things that are actually rooted in the world of atoms." http://webmink.com/2010/08/12/links-for-2010-08-12/ | Aug 12 23:40 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/ml2mst/statuses/21025611000 " WTF? you are part of the #techrights community or not?" | Aug 13 07:17 |
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| MinceR | twitter fails, they don't have the "in context" link | Aug 13 07:18 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, I fail to see context too | Aug 13 07:21 |
| schestowitz | But Twitter does have some context option | Aug 13 07:21 |
| schestowitz | Only if you use the Web Front End | Aug 13 07:21 |
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| oiaohm | http://www.marketwatch.com/story/oracle-sues-google-for-patent-infringement-2010-08-12 Seen this schestowitz | Aug 13 08:24 |
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| schestowitz | http://news.discovery.com/tech/screw-it-youre-dead-anyway.html | Aug 13 08:36 |
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| schestowitz | Innovation | Aug 13 08:36 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: what do you think about ORCL? | Aug 13 08:36 |
| MinceR | is cremation not good enough anymore? | Aug 13 08:42 |
| schestowitz | "But WOT about the SOUL?" | Aug 13 08:44 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: what google did with android is the same class as what Microsoft tried todo with java. So fall out should have happened. | Aug 13 08:44 |
| MinceR | google tried to kill java by creating an incompatible variant under the same brand? that's new | Aug 13 08:47 |
| MinceR | lol @ comments >> http://gizmodo.com/5468152/a-screw+in-coffin-is-clever-and-economical?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+gizmodo/full+%28Gizmodo%29&utm_content=Google+Reader | Aug 13 08:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A Screw-In Coffin is Clever and Economical .::. Size~: 78.38 KB | Aug 13 08:47 |
| MinceR | oh, (javascript) | Aug 13 08:47 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: running low on space | Aug 13 09:13 |
| schestowitz | Even for burial | Aug 13 09:13 |
| schestowitz | Maybe we can go back to making people fossil fuel | Aug 13 09:13 |
| schestowitz | Like people did until hundreds/thousands years ago | Aug 13 09:13 |
| schestowitz | I mean, people need your tomb for like, what? Hundreds of years | Aug 13 09:14 |
| schestowitz | Then nobody even knows your name | Aug 13 09:14 |
| schestowitz | Let alone visits the grave | Aug 13 09:14 |
| schestowitz | Immortalising 'sould' | Aug 13 09:14 |
| schestowitz | *souls | Aug 13 09:14 |
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