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IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: April 13th, 2010

-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@Twitter tone is hard to calibrate. Sorry @mindnode, my point abt site wasn't meant to sound so harsh. I'm sure ur product has originality!Apr 13 00:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Besides, on matters of developer site aesthetics, as I said, I shouldn't be throwing any stones ;-) (Sigh, need to find time to fix my site)Apr 13 00:08
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Converts C# Code to Java While #Apple Outright Rejects C# http://ur1.ca/urr3 #adobe #flash #oggApr 13 00:17
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WireWulfi think the biggest problem with processers is M$ and sapple forcing you to use on type of processerApr 13 00:40
cubezzzit's the wintel thingApr 13 00:41
WireWulffor windows and newer macs it is intelApr 13 00:41
cubezzzlinux gives you your freedom backApr 13 00:41
WireWulfolder macs it was ppcApr 13 00:41
cubezzzold apple is 6502 :)Apr 13 00:41
WireWulfcubezzz: to the point you ask yourself which is truly more powerfulApr 13 00:42
cubezzzwell windows makes any CPU seem slowApr 13 00:43
cubezzzthere's VIAApr 13 00:43
WireWulfi think linux needs to find away of pumping money into alternative cpu devApr 13 00:44
cubezzzit doesn't matter the cpu as much, except I want choicesApr 13 00:44
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cubezzzdoes modern video cards have anything like a blitter?Apr 13 00:45
WireWulfi mean in the earily 90's there was only about 3x as many cpu types now it is blank or nothingApr 13 00:45
WireWulfblitter?Apr 13 00:45
cubezzzis there a video card I can get all the documentation? These are the things I'm trying to figure outApr 13 00:45
cubezzzlet me find a link...Apr 13 00:45
WireWulfas far as gpu's go ati is open as far as drivesApr 13 00:46
cubezzzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlitterApr 13 00:46
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WireWulfnvidia has driver supportt but it isnt as openApr 13 00:46
cubezzzyou can't learn with a closed source driverApr 13 00:47
WireWulfcubezzz: what is the difference between a intel-v and a normal intel processer?Apr 13 00:47
WireWulfi dont get the hole +virtual thingApr 13 00:48
cubezzzummmApr 13 00:49
cubezzzIntel VT-x?Apr 13 00:49
cubezzzwell I guess it's better to have it than notApr 13 00:50
cubezzzwant I _really_ want is documentation for my hardwareApr 13 00:52
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cubezzzI'm almost there, the last binary blob is my video driver Apr 13 00:53
cubezzzand.... Qtopia docsApr 13 00:53
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cubezzztechrights indeedApr 13 00:54
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WireWulfwhy are most wifi cards windows onlyApr 13 00:55
cubezzztry one of these: Netgear MA701  802.11b CF cardApr 13 00:56
cubezzzor Linksys WCF12Apr 13 00:57
cubezzzalways check first :)Apr 13 00:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Corrupt governments that give #Microsoft their citizens’ money are being defended http://ur1.ca/uruy #Kyrgyzstan #eula #windowsApr 13 00:57
TechrightsBotTitle: Microsoft Really Loves Suppressive and Corrupt Regimes | Techrights .::. Size~: 91.29 KBApr 13 00:57
WireWulfcubezzz: linux will never be user friendly xD i been told this all my lifeApr 13 00:58
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/28206385#notice-28301664 "@schestowitz for microsoft it's always uphill trying to sell locked-down hyped-up pre-obsolete junk. apple makes it looks easy."Apr 13 00:58
TechrightsBotTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.9 KBApr 13 00:58
schestowitzWireWulf: depends on the userApr 13 00:58
schestowitzIt would not be friendly to a user called BillGApr 13 00:59
cubezzzWireWulf, I'm surrounded by linux devicesApr 13 00:59
WireWulfschestowitz: i find linux ever moveing foreward for the users not the moneyApr 13 00:59
cubezzz5 computers, my router, my tv :)Apr 13 00:59
cubezzzI'm as linuxy as you can getApr 13 01:00
WireWulfi just find it funny ppl trying to say i am smart cuz i use *nix or i have to be a coderApr 13 01:00
WireWulfcubezzz: my psp runs linux Apr 13 01:00
WireWulftho you have to boot normal frimware/os but thats unix alsoApr 13 01:01
cubezzzLinux is pretty mainstream nowApr 13 01:01
cubezzzit's a done dealApr 13 01:01
WireWulflinux is still 3rd in most users mindApr 13 01:02
WireWulfand the whole range of os are still unknown to pplApr 13 01:02
WireWulfask someone if they every used cp/mApr 13 01:03
cubezzzI haveApr 13 01:03
cubezzzfor devices Linux is probably number 1Apr 13 01:04
cubezzzI can go to any staples and buy a linux router no problemApr 13 01:04
cubezzzthat's mainstreamApr 13 01:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #omg maybe the problem is that corporations AND government are made of PEOPLE. // Food for thought indeed!Apr 13 01:04
WireWulfi think i like the idea of miniX but hate how it was doneApr 13 01:06
cubezzzeven on Amiga I'd go LinuxApr 13 01:06
cubezzzAmigaDOS 4 is closed sourceApr 13 01:07
WireWulfnot a freedos port for amiga ?Apr 13 01:07
cubezzzI could dual boot AROS and LinuxApr 13 01:07
cubezzzbest of both worldsApr 13 01:08
WireWulfor you could go back in time and kill B.GATES III before he messes everything up in the pc worldApr 13 01:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@Twitter needs an avatar hotness contest, or at least, #isMyAvatarHotOrNot gameApr 13 01:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@spymaami would win, of courseApr 13 01:09
cubezzza temporary aberrationApr 13 01:10
cubezzzwhich will correct itself over timeApr 13 01:10
cubezzzdon't get me wrong, things could have been a lot better Apr 13 01:12
WireWulfcubezzz: a correction would take ppl wanting to know how to effectivly run there computersApr 13 01:12
cubezzzway way betterApr 13 01:12
cubezzzpeople can run Linux with helpApr 13 01:13
WireWulfi think if steven jobs hadnt sold out BSD/linux/miniX had been more used in there earily life we would have more tech knowApr 13 01:13
cubezzzthey can do that right nowApr 13 01:13
cubezzzJobs is just a marketerApr 13 01:13
WireWulfJobs got fucked by something we wanted for all ppl who used computersApr 13 01:15
WireWulf*heApr 13 01:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #teapartygameshows Family Values FeudApr 13 01:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@seeminglee BSoD'ed from Vista safe mode // even #Vista apologists are on W7 now, I thought. #microsoft #bsodApr 13 01:17
WireWulfcubezzz: if napster is "stealing" then didnt bill gates sorta do that to begen with Apr 13 01:18
cubezzzhe didApr 13 01:18
cubezzzthere's no doubt about itApr 13 01:18
WireWulfand he does it today Apr 13 01:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] @schestowitz do we have any good art-work for "mono-free" ? I need image for #shcoolos website !Apr 13 01:19
WireWulfsaddly i have mono installed but i am going to kill itApr 13 01:20
WireWulfcubezzz: what do you think about sudoApr 13 01:23
cubezzzI don't bother with itApr 13 01:23
WireWulfi try not toApr 13 01:23
cubezzzbecause of the brain dead way sharp set up the zaurus I'm running as root all the timeApr 13 01:26
cubezzzonly on zaurus thoughApr 13 01:27
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WireWulfheh you should look at the linux distro i use to do some dev work forApr 13 01:29
cubezzzwhich one?Apr 13 01:29
WireWulfbrain dead doesnt decibe the idiots that control puppyApr 13 01:29
WireWulfthe one thing i am happy i quit doingApr 13 01:30
DaemonFChmmm, so now you need an "identification card" to ride a motorized bicycleApr 13 01:35
DaemonFCinterestingApr 13 01:35
DaemonFC(so they know who to mail the traffic tickets to?)Apr 13 01:35
WireWulfduhApr 13 01:36
cubezzzhehApr 13 01:36
WireWulfDaemonFC: howw can the goverment rape you of your money otherwise?Apr 13 01:36
DaemonFCthe wonderful thing is it looks so close to a normal bicycle, they'll never tell the difference from their speed trap locationsApr 13 01:36
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DaemonFCOfficer: "How were you going 15 miles per hour on a bicycle?" Apr 13 01:37
cubezzzuh, why not just keep using the normal bicycle then?Apr 13 01:37
DaemonFCMe: "Well you see, I WAS going to take on Lance Armstrong, but I pulled a Hamstring...."Apr 13 01:37
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cubezzzand btw, isn't there a minimum speed limit on interstates?Apr 13 01:38
DaemonFCcubezzz: Minimum speed limit isn't posted, but it is law that vehicles going less than 45 miles per hour on the freeway may be issued a citation for reckless drivingApr 13 01:38
DaemonFCwith a fine not less than $175 :)Apr 13 01:39
DaemonFCit's worse than most speeding ticketsApr 13 01:39
cubezzzbetter stay off the highways thenApr 13 01:39
cubezzzit just sucks for cyclistsApr 13 01:39
DaemonFCcubezzz: No minimums on a state highway unless you are impeding the normal flow of trafficApr 13 01:39
DaemonFCwhich I won't be doing off in the breakdown laneApr 13 01:40
DaemonFC:)Apr 13 01:40
cubezzzif an ambulance comes along...Apr 13 01:40
DaemonFCyou pull overApr 13 01:40
DaemonFCor you get a ticketApr 13 01:40
DaemonFCand a hell of a fineApr 13 01:40
DaemonFCcubezzz: Minimum on the freeway was 40 mphApr 13 01:41
DaemonFCit went up to 45 when the speed limit went from 65 to 70Apr 13 01:41
cubezzzriding your bike on an interstate sounds problematicApr 13 01:42
DaemonFCevery once in a while you came up on some old person that was actually doing 40Apr 13 01:42
DaemonFCeveryone else is there trying to do 80 or 85Apr 13 01:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @eduvid try http://images.google.com/images?q=site%3Aboycottnovell.com%20mono&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&hl=en-GB&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wiApr 13 01:42
TechrightsBotTitle: site:boycottnovell.com mono - Google Search .::. Size~: 56.2 KBApr 13 01:42
DaemonFCcubezzz: The thing is that they can't say you can't ride your bike on state highwaysApr 13 01:43
DaemonFCbecause those run through towns and become city streets tooApr 13 01:43
cubezzzwell I wouldn't :)Apr 13 01:43
DaemonFCstate highways might not even be all that busyApr 13 01:44
cubezzzaround town, OKApr 13 01:44
DaemonFCFederal highways evenApr 13 01:44
DaemonFCyou can ride your bicycle down a Federal highwayApr 13 01:44
DaemonFCjust not an interstateApr 13 01:44
DaemonFC;)Apr 13 01:44
WireWulflolApr 13 01:45
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Numbered_HighwaysApr 13 01:45
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WireWulfstate law prohibets video screens of any type hereApr 13 01:45
DaemonFCThey're basically everywhere from before the interstate caught onApr 13 01:45
cubezzzI can't imagine using the 401 on a bike :)Apr 13 01:45
DaemonFCbut still used and maintained :)Apr 13 01:46
WireWulfDaemonFC: us highway in alabama is more used then any of the interstate systemsApr 13 01:46
DaemonFCthey're basically the beta version of the Interstate Highway :)Apr 13 01:46
WireWulf*highway 31Apr 13 01:46
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Texas_CorridorApr 13 01:47
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DaemonFCNAFTA SuperhighwayApr 13 01:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nickballard] RT @channeldvorak Richard Dawkins Calls for Arrest of Pope Benedict XVI http://bit.ly/9ND5pPApr 13 01:47
TechrightsBotTitle:  » Richard Dawkins Calls for Arrest of Pope Benedict XVI Dvorak Uncensored: General interest observations and true web-log. .::. Size~: 55.89 KBApr 13 01:47
*DaemonFC mumbles unkind thingsApr 13 01:48
DaemonFCanother way they fuck the people over and get the people to foot the billApr 13 01:48
DaemonFC:PApr 13 01:48
WireWulfDaemonFC: most roads in my county here in al are done reprivatlyApr 13 01:49
DaemonFCUnited States tax payers float the bill, and the rich super elite of all three countries make obscene profits off itApr 13 01:49
WireWulfhowever the one to the south is done by goverment a takes 7 years to finishApr 13 01:49
DaemonFCalso, they want to send Chinese stuff to Mexico to slip into the USApr 13 01:50
DaemonFCno inspections or tariffs Apr 13 01:50
WireWulfthats not illegalApr 13 01:50
DaemonFCcould even be a nuclear bomb or nasty plague onboardApr 13 01:51
DaemonFCwe would never knowApr 13 01:51
WireWulftho i have to say tax the hell out of incoming shitApr 13 01:51
DaemonFCyou naughty little protectionist you :PApr 13 01:51
*DaemonFC shakes his fingerApr 13 01:51
WireWulfmake it where busness in the USA make money off producing in the USAApr 13 01:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@EbenMoglen #sflc "#spying comes free with everything now" http://bit.ly/95IXutApr 13 01:51
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WireWulfDaemonFC: i have been called worseApr 13 01:52
WireWulfeven a terroristApr 13 01:52
DaemonFCa terrorist is a guy riding an electric bicycle to church in Phoenix, ArizonaApr 13 01:53
DaemonFC:)Apr 13 01:53
DaemonFCdidn't you see that vid?Apr 13 01:53
DaemonFCgot $2300 in citations, including for not having a WINDSHIELDApr 13 01:53
DaemonFClolApr 13 01:53
WireWulfwhich i love becuz it is like awesome to be hated by every dumb fuck progressive idiot in the south :PApr 13 01:53
DaemonFCyou mean regressive dumbfucks in the southApr 13 01:54
DaemonFC:DApr 13 01:54
DaemonFCWireWulf: You remember Maddox's idea? The Regressive PartyApr 13 01:55
DaemonFCAgainst abortion, For killing babiesApr 13 01:55
DaemonFC:PApr 13 01:55
WireWulfDaemonFC: o yeah i am also racist yet my family is more mixed then obama's,tho  few of my cloest friends are blackApr 13 01:55
DaemonFChttp://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=regressiveApr 13 01:55
WireWulfDaemonFC: only 21 and never took a real goverment classApr 13 01:56
DaemonFCI'm not really racist, nothing against Puerto Ricans coming here for exampleApr 13 01:56
DaemonFCbut they're US citizens, the Mexicans aren'tApr 13 01:56
DaemonFCthey live in a US territory, the Mexicans don'tApr 13 01:56
DaemonFCthe solution to lawbreakers shouldn't be to change the law to suit themApr 13 01:57
DaemonFCotherwise we'd have no crime and every murderer would go free :)Apr 13 01:57
DaemonFCa $500 fine and agreeing to learn English shouldn't be the only two stipulations to US citizenshipApr 13 01:58
DaemonFCtoken fine ratherApr 13 01:58
DaemonFCand Obama even wants to count time in prison towards their time residing in the USApr 13 01:59
DaemonFCfor the citizenship purposesApr 13 01:59
DaemonFCon that issue, he really is no different than BushApr 13 01:59
WireWulfmexicans i know who tryed to be legal also llearn english (tho broken) is fairly wellApr 13 01:59
WireWulfas for illegals i say throw em backApr 13 02:00
DaemonFCthere's Mexicans that HAVE gone through the proper process, convoluted as it may be and are US citizensApr 13 02:00
DaemonFCand there's nothing wrong with thatApr 13 02:00
DaemonFCwe shouldn't ever reward people for short circuiting the system to break our lawsApr 13 02:00
WireWulfor better yet send them to china Apr 13 02:00
cubezzzI'm an immigrant :)Apr 13 02:00
WireWulfDaemonFC: socialism needas capitalism to failApr 13 02:01
cubezzzI immigrated to Canada from the UKApr 13 02:01
DaemonFCit's like "Why bother to try to do the right thing when I can just hop a fence, break their laws, and still get treated like royalty?"Apr 13 02:01
WireWulfcubezzz: as long as you are legal :PApr 13 02:01
cubezzzsure, citizen since 1976Apr 13 02:01
WireWulfi am naturly born but i did that the citizenship testApr 13 02:01
DaemonFCthe US Army fucked up and changed my mom's side of the family's nameApr 13 02:02
DaemonFCwas HarmanApr 13 02:02
DaemonFCnow it's HarmonApr 13 02:02
DaemonFCsince that's the only record my grandfather had, that's what his name was until he died :PApr 13 02:02
DaemonFChe could have changed it back, but didn't :)Apr 13 02:02
WireWulfUS army is the reason my sect of the irish clan cannon is mason :PApr 13 02:02
cubezzzI was born in BelfastApr 13 02:02
cubezzzI'm glad I came to Canada thoughApr 13 02:03
cubezzzit worked outApr 13 02:03
DaemonFCboth my grandfathers were World War II veteransApr 13 02:03
DaemonFCit's how my mom's dad became a US citizenApr 13 02:03
WireWulfmy grandfather on my mom's side was a WW2 veteranApr 13 02:04
cubezzzwas there any War World II fighting inside the continental US?Apr 13 02:05
DaemonFCmy dad's dad was a Master Sergeant in the Air Force and my mom's dad was a First Lieutenant in the Army Apr 13 02:05
DaemonFCcubezzz: YesApr 13 02:05
DaemonFCThe Japanese invaded AlaskaApr 13 02:05
cubezzzah I seeApr 13 02:05
DaemonFCwe evicted them of course :)Apr 13 02:06
WireWulfDaemonFC: e07 navy (vitnam dad's dad) e01 (mom's dad ww3)Apr 13 02:06
WireWulf*ww2Apr 13 02:06
DaemonFCcubezzz: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleutian_Islands_CampaignApr 13 02:06
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DaemonFCcubezzz: The Japanese also sent some balloon bombs across the sea to the US mainlandApr 13 02:07
DaemonFCmost of them went off course and ditched in the sea or crashed out in the middle of the desert and didn't hurt anyoneApr 13 02:07
cubezzzah, hopefully no ww3 yet :)Apr 13 02:07
cubezzzso far so good :)Apr 13 02:07
DaemonFCyou remember that CIA guy in those James Bond moviesApr 13 02:08
DaemonFC"The United States government has no interest in World War III, unless we start it..." :0Apr 13 02:08
DaemonFCerr :)Apr 13 02:08
schestowitzWW3 would be shortApr 13 02:08
schestowitzCould be cyberApr 13 02:08
schestowitzWWWApr 13 02:08
WireWulfschestowitz: WW3 would be too longApr 13 02:09
cubezzzcould be non-nuclear yeahApr 13 02:09
schestowitzWW3C?Apr 13 02:09
cubezzzWW3-liteApr 13 02:09
DaemonFCschestowitz: The powers that be seem content to fuck around with countries that can't possibly offer any resistance Apr 13 02:09
schestowitzParalysis of operationsApr 13 02:09
DaemonFCthe British are even in on it now :)Apr 13 02:09
WireWulfand take place in everyway possibleApr 13 02:09
DaemonFCand don't forget Poland :DApr 13 02:09
schestowitzIf you could mess up farming with crackers, then you could cause major hunger, bar emergency supplies from abroadApr 13 02:09
WireWulfnethackers, fighters,tanks, bombs, nukesApr 13 02:09
DaemonFCschestowitz: Simple, napalm the poppy fieldsApr 13 02:10
DaemonFCor dust the fields with defoliants B-)Apr 13 02:10
schestowitzYou can'tApr 13 02:10
schestowitzIt's illegalApr 13 02:10
schestowitzGeneva conventions ;-)Apr 13 02:10
DaemonFCnapalm isn't illegalApr 13 02:11
cubezzzbtw, who started WW2?Apr 13 02:11
WireWulfgermanyApr 13 02:11
cubezzzNazis?Apr 13 02:11
cubezzzah rightApr 13 02:11
DaemonFCcubezzz: Germany, which grew while the British were feeding and appeasing and entertaining HitlerApr 13 02:11
WireWulftheir inner civil war to be a socialist country or notApr 13 02:11
schestowitzThe interesting story was catalyst for WW1Apr 13 02:11
cubezzzI wonder though, something must have set off JapanApr 13 02:11
schestowitzOne assassinationApr 13 02:11
DaemonFCthen once they finished helping him grow into a threat, they bitched at us for wanting to be neutral to the problem they causedApr 13 02:12
DaemonFCand we'll never hear the end of thatApr 13 02:12
DaemonFC:DApr 13 02:12
WireWulfthe french saved us once we save them 20x moreApr 13 02:12
cubezzzHilter was pretty crazyApr 13 02:12
cubezzzHitler Apr 13 02:12
cubezzzhow did he figure he could just take over Europe?Apr 13 02:13
DaemonFCWireWulf: Yes, people want to bag on the French, but they're awesomeApr 13 02:13
DaemonFCwithout their help, we may never have kicked the British off our lawnApr 13 02:13
DaemonFC:DApr 13 02:13
WireWulfDaemonFC: the french are cry babies any you know it :PApr 13 02:13
DaemonFCwe owed them the WWII liberation campaign :)Apr 13 02:13
WireWulfDaemonFC: did we owe them the save the french in WWI?Apr 13 02:14
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Wilhelm_von_SteubenApr 13 02:14
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DaemonFCThis guy kicked ass too :)Apr 13 02:14
WireWulfi think hitler was badApr 13 02:14
WireWulfbut mao and stalen were just as bad if not worseApr 13 02:14
DaemonFChttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Von_Steuben_at_Valley_Forge.jpgApr 13 02:15
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WireWulfDaemonFC: lockk was a french man and i do love his goverment ideasApr 13 02:15
WireWulfi am very anti-socialism Apr 13 02:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@textfiles Saw a 2010 ad in the #UK underground..realized it was for #Hotmail. Really? RLY? SERIOUSLY? HOTMAIL? / it's for "The New Busy"!!Apr 13 02:15
DaemonFCI'm not reallyApr 13 02:16
WireWulfi amApr 13 02:16
DaemonFCI'm very anti-totalitarian dictatorshipApr 13 02:16
DaemonFC:)Apr 13 02:16
DaemonFCThere's really no true socialist countriesApr 13 02:16
DaemonFCand there never has beenApr 13 02:16
WireWulfDaemonFC: socialism leads to national socialism or communism pick your poisonApr 13 02:17
DaemonFCprobably never will beApr 13 02:17
DaemonFCnot reallyApr 13 02:17
DaemonFCit doesn't have toApr 13 02:17
WireWulfDaemonFC: i am not talking the writings of marx i was talking the missed named kings of countriesApr 13 02:17
DaemonFCand there are examples of egalitarian communes that have worked for hundreds of yearsApr 13 02:17
DaemonFCold order Amish for exampleApr 13 02:18
WireWulfwhat works in smaall groups doesnt always work on a huge number of pplApr 13 02:18
cubezzztrueApr 13 02:18
WireWulfexample ussrApr 13 02:18
cubezzztotally gone, a dinosaur...Apr 13 02:19
DaemonFCcubezzz: The FSSA wanted some documents from meApr 13 02:19
DaemonFCso I stretched them out for 58 pagesApr 13 02:19
DaemonFCand faxed each one of themApr 13 02:19
DaemonFCB-)Apr 13 02:19
DaemonFCI hate those sons of bitchesApr 13 02:20
*DaemonFC growlsApr 13 02:20
cubezzznow we have a sort of computer fascismApr 13 02:20
DaemonFCoh well, I won my Part D subsidy, that was the easy fightApr 13 02:20
cubezzznot totally of course, but 90% which is way too highApr 13 02:20
DaemonFCI applied for it and OMB even though OMB covers B and D just cause OMB fight is going to be long and difficultApr 13 02:21
DaemonFCwith marginal chance of successApr 13 02:21
DaemonFCand lots of appealsApr 13 02:21
WireWulfcubezzz: as i have said mac is starting to be totally propatry and dus communism likeApr 13 02:21
WireWulfM$ as always been fascist i mean they hate open software movementsApr 13 02:22
cubezzznever used Mac, before Linux I was using Commodore computers...Apr 13 02:22
cubezzzbut I was also on doze for a while, I'm sorry to sayApr 13 02:23
WireWulfi used dozeApr 13 02:23
WireWulfi have used hackintoshApr 13 02:24
WireWulfGNUSTeP which is mac is mostly basedApr 13 02:24
WireWulfBSD and miniXApr 13 02:24
WireWulfi find linux to be the bestApr 13 02:25
cubezzzit pretty much is the best we have Apr 13 02:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #TurboHercules Secret Home in 701 Fifth Avenue, Suite 4200 Seattle, WA 98104 http://ur1.ca/us40 #microsoft #ibm #swpatApr 13 02:25
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cubezzzit's the most versatileApr 13 02:26
WireWulfcubezzz: as i have said i think BSD and miniX could have been betterApr 13 02:26
cubezzzBSD is OKApr 13 02:27
WireWulfcubezzz: and miniX never stopped being a hobbist thingApr 13 02:28
cubezzzI tried Minix a long time ago... had problems with itApr 13 02:29
cubezzzcouldn't read the 5.25 floppies :)Apr 13 02:30
WireWulfeveryone doesApr 13 02:30
cubezzzbut on an Amiga 3000 I could have a 100% documented machine running LinuxApr 13 02:30
WireWulfmircoKernel OS's and floppies never seem to work right :PApr 13 02:30
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cubezzzmaybe QNX would work betterApr 13 02:31
WireWulfnever figured it outApr 13 02:31
WireWulfnever messed with QNXApr 13 02:31
WireWulfdid not like solaris that muchApr 13 02:32
cubezzzI got AmigaDos 2.0 running in a emulatorApr 13 02:32
WireWulfyumApr 13 02:32
WireWulfi got dosbox running win 3.11 onceApr 13 02:32
WireWulfjust for fun tho :PApr 13 02:33
cubezzzhaApr 13 02:33
cubezzzI just use dosbox for old games, and a few odd programs I wroteApr 13 02:33
WireWulfwin3.11 the last windows you could say it is okay atApr 13 02:33
cubezzzyou could try win95 under dosbox :)Apr 13 02:34
WireWulfdos6.x killed dosApr 13 02:34
Ziodotmatrixcubezzz: Wacky Racers! :-DApr 13 02:34
cubezzzLands of Lore for me Apr 13 02:35
schestowitz"While Adobe had him retract some of his words, and the blog now has a big disclaimer, “[Adobe would like me to make it clear that the opinions below are not the official views of the company and are entirely my own.]” we can be sure that within Adobe’s offices far stronger words were used to describe Apple’s attitude towards Flash." http://www.itworld.com/legal/104320/adobe-vs-apple-going-get-uglierApr 13 02:35
TechrightsBotTitle: Adobe vs. Apple is going to get uglier | ITworld .::. Size~: 81.37 KBApr 13 02:35
schestowitzNo "screw Apple " anymore. Meh, Adobe is no funApr 13 02:35
ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: their commercial sucked, didn't try to create a kind of BIOS lookng GUI for a certain version of DOS?Apr 13 02:35
cubezzzI remember Wacky Races though :)Apr 13 02:36
schestowitzI spent hundreds of hours on itApr 13 02:36
schestowitzMulti-player on one keyboardApr 13 02:36
WireWulfZiodotmatrix: dos was a plan failure after 3.xApr 13 02:37
Ziodotmatrixschestowitz: those are fun, how come there are never anymore party games for PC?Apr 13 02:37
WireWulfsuper mario warApr 13 02:37
cubezzzdos had to go thoughApr 13 02:38
cubezzzit was totally obsoleteApr 13 02:38
schestowitzWait, that's not it... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wacky_Races_%28video_game%29Apr 13 02:38
TechrightsBotTitle: Wacky Races (video game) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 23.68 KBApr 13 02:38
cubezzzWacky Races is a cartoon from the late 60'sApr 13 02:38
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eIipKZMw5gApr 13 02:39
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- Normal Super Mario Bros. - A Wacky Mario Fangame! .::. Size~: 81.06 KBApr 13 02:39
Ziodotmatrixit's called Wacky Racers I recallApr 13 02:39
cubezzzah, the game was also called Wacy Races according to wikipediaApr 13 02:39
cubezzzer, Wacky :)Apr 13 02:39
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQZD3SDZGxMApr 13 02:40
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- SFIBM 198 (Street Fighter 2 Wacky Korean PC Game) Playthrough Part 1 .::. Size~: 79.5 KBApr 13 02:40
schestowitzThe graphics look so s**te nowApr 13 02:40
Ziodotmatrixcubezzz: you're mixing it up with the Hanna Barbara cartoon that came before itApr 13 02:40
WireWulfstreet fighter 2 turbo on snes was awesomeApr 13 02:40
Ziodotmatrixcubezzz: the grandaddy of how those games came to beApr 13 02:41
cubezzzhmmm?Apr 13 02:41
cubezzzbefore it?Apr 13 02:41
ZiodotmatrixWacky Races the cartoon seriesApr 13 02:41
cubezzzyeah, but all the references say Wacky Races, not Wacky Racers, even in the gameApr 13 02:41
cubezzzthere's probably another game I haven't seenApr 13 02:42
cubezzzI think there was even a board game called Wacky RacesApr 13 02:43
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] WePad 11.6", runs Android !Linux, comes out to be around ~$500. Meh. Drop $400, and I'll think about it http://ur1.ca/us5dApr 13 02:43
WireWulfwacky races 51/2 inch floppy game?Apr 13 02:43
TechrightsBotTitle: WePad comes out of tablet hiding, reveals its €450 price and August availability -- Engadget .::. Size~: 120.12 KBApr 13 02:43
Ziodotmatrixcubezzz: I was thinking of one that kind of copied Mariokart but with all animal characters such as a Shark and PandaApr 13 02:43
cubezzzummm, this was like NES I thinkApr 13 02:43
schestowitzWatching this SF2 video is addictiveApr 13 02:43
schestowitzI can't quit itApr 13 02:43
Ziodotmatrixschestowitz: btw what do you think is Palm's fate?Apr 13 02:44
WireWulfi was thinking the old skool pc racing gameApr 13 02:44
cubezzzcomputer game, I can't recallApr 13 02:44
schestowitzPalm will rename to "fist"Apr 13 02:44
Ziodotmatrixschestowitz: you think whoever will buy them will simply hord the IP, lay off all the staff and liquidate the rest ala Commodore and Atari?Apr 13 02:44
cubezzzwhat happens with Commodore is kind of weirdApr 13 02:45
cubezzzno idea what the deal is with the rights nowApr 13 02:46
cubezzzit was bought and sold a million timesApr 13 02:46
Ziodotmatrixcubezzz: I seriously think some Palm employees should get together and film an eulogy like the Commodore one. We could maybe see a Cobalt OS dev deviceApr 13 02:46
WireWulfi think palm will be renamed digiorgnizersApr 13 02:46
WireWulfand suck beyond normalApr 13 02:46
WireWulf:PApr 13 02:47
ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: lol if only the engineers and staff get it that good after acquisition :-(Apr 13 02:48
WireWulflime worse then black hole suckienessApr 13 02:48
cubezzzAmiga X1000 will rule over all :)Apr 13 02:48
Ziodotmatrixbtw heres more for the Commodore copyright mess: http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/12/commodore-gaming-disavows-commodore-usa-and-its-decals/Apr 13 02:49
TechrightsBotTitle: Commodore Gaming disavows Commodore USA (and its decals) -- Engadget .::. Size~: 133.59 KBApr 13 02:49
cubezzzI don't think a bigger mess than Commodore is possibleApr 13 02:49
Ziodotmatrixcubezzz: pfff, we all know NATAMI will carry on the true 68k Amiga mantleApr 13 02:49
*Diablo-D3 le sighs.Apr 13 02:50
Ziodotmatrixcubezzz: I'm wondering if Acer through Gateway still has Commodore IP. it doesn't matter though since most is expired.Apr 13 02:50
cubezzzthis new "commodore" machine has nothing to do with commodore reallyApr 13 02:51
cubezzzit vaguely looks a bit like a c64, that's itApr 13 02:51
cubezzzif it had a built in c64 emu in bios or something that would be coolApr 13 02:51
WireWulfhehApr 13 02:52
WireWulfmost likkly a failure in the makeingApr 13 02:52
Ziodotmatrixwtf investors called the Pre's formfactor horrible yet those same analysts call M$ geniuses? http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/12/kin-is-basically-a-zune-hd-inside-can-go-for-a-weekend-on-a-cha/Apr 13 02:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @crikey_news "A huge win for the #KFC #marketing machine, but a bigger loss to the dignity of Western civilisation" http://is.gd/bqhhgApr 13 02:52
TechrightsBotTitle: Kin is basically a Zune HD inside, can go for a weekend on a charge -- Engadget .::. Size~: 215.58 KBApr 13 02:53
TechrightsBotTitle: KFC cooks up a deep-fried marketing win  Crikey .::. Size~: 57.1 KBApr 13 02:53
cubezzzor even better, if it had c64 hardware built in...Apr 13 02:53
WireWulfcubezzz: i has decided you like to o;der hardware too muchApr 13 02:55
DaemonFCcubezzz: Btw, the Canadians desertion rate during the Aleutian Islands Campain was very high :D Apr 13 02:55
Ziodotmatrixcubezzz: I recall a $50 Chinese computer that was being sold with 68k hardware and it's own Mandarin version of BASICApr 13 02:55
cubezzzZiodotmatrix, coolApr 13 02:55
WireWulfyum BASICApr 13 02:56
cubezzzif I really went 68K I'd probably buy an Amiga 500 :)Apr 13 02:56
cubezzzI think it was all socketed chips tooApr 13 02:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@crikey_news "huge win for #KFC #marketing, but bigger loss to the dignity of Western civilisation" // wait, it had dignity left to lose???Apr 13 02:56
WireWulfwww.amigaforever.comApr 13 02:59
WireWulflolApr 13 02:59
ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: you know it really means something when you call your computer your girlfriend ;-)Apr 13 03:00
DaemonFCcubezzz: The Japanese fire balloons reached Canada too :)Apr 13 03:01
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_balloonApr 13 03:02
TechrightsBotTitle: Fire balloon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 58.19 KBApr 13 03:02
WireWulfZiodotmatrix: lol yeah consittering i am not much liked my the opposite sexApr 13 03:02
WireWulfamigaone was made up to atleast 2009 Apr 13 03:02
ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: now there is the Acube SAM Flex PPC mobo that supports Amiga OS4.1Apr 13 03:03
WireWulfi am at a amiga store Apr 13 03:03
WireWulfZiodotmatrix: never mess with an amigaApr 13 03:04
WireWulfhad a timex and a tandyApr 13 03:04
ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: cool, I hate how people claim more then 3 companies competing is convolutedApr 13 03:05
WireWulfBase Price: $964.23 for a nex amiga + shoppingApr 13 03:06
ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: Dam PCs progressed in leaps and bounds back in the day. But the good ones were more expensive too along with software costsApr 13 03:06
WireWulfZiodotmatrix: i am for as maany in battled companys as possibleApr 13 03:06
ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: also it wasn't the best time for FOSS either, or was it?Apr 13 03:07
WireWulfZiodotmatrix: this right now is the golden age of foss Apr 13 03:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @rayvelline #Ohio official tells residents to 'arm themselves' amid #police cuts http://bit.ly/arsdJW // me *blinks*Apr 13 03:07
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WireWulfhowever foss had its issues back in the dayApr 13 03:08
ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: I wish it was made more apparent to the mainstream which is having the whool pulled over their eyesApr 13 03:08
ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: back then wasn't the only license MIT?Apr 13 03:09
DaemonFCThe judge is rightApr 13 03:09
WireWulfBSD was license around 84Apr 13 03:09
DaemonFCarm yourself, the police can't do anything to help youApr 13 03:09
DaemonFCwhy not?Apr 13 03:10
WireWulfhowever the BSD licensing act isnt as free as GNU but it set the way for GNUApr 13 03:10
WireWulfDaemonFC: BSD states that the os most have a name containing BSD and not have a forementioned title named for or after the company also the main file design most stay with in 89% of stock BSDApr 13 03:11
ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: I can't believe I forgot about Berkley :-PApr 13 03:11
WireWulfZiodotmatrix: most doApr 13 03:12
WireWulfyou had miniApr 13 03:12
WireWulferr miniX around 86Apr 13 03:12
ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: but I suppose that's what made MIT a great alternative even though it's legally weak and dicentralizedApr 13 03:12
WireWulfand linux 0.0.9 in 88-89ishApr 13 03:12
WireWulfZiodotmatrix: and what did mit have?Apr 13 03:13
WireWulfi wasnt around in the 80's :PApr 13 03:13
ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: they had their own open license for any achademics who created software and hardware thereApr 13 03:13
WireWulfahhApr 13 03:14
WireWulfhonisly i would love to go to school @ mitApr 13 03:14
ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: still do but I'm not sure if it's still used so much with a stronger GPLApr 13 03:15
WireWulfif i invented something i would go gpl Apr 13 03:15
WireWulfmaybe not make you keep the sorce code thoApr 13 03:16
WireWulfdamn i do believe amiga had a preforum of kdeApr 13 03:16
WireWulfsorry was looking at a screeny of amigaOS and noticed it looks like cmd crossed with kdeApr 13 03:17
ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: well what came before? Anyway AmigaOS is not like Linux in many ways, for one thing it uses a DOSApr 13 03:19
WireWulfZiodotmatrix: i can see thisApr 13 03:20
WireWulfbut it should run linux no problemApr 13 03:20
ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: you mean the hardware?Apr 13 03:21
WireWulfyeahApr 13 03:21
WireWulfat least the newerones i was looking atApr 13 03:21
WireWulfmy old timex will never run linuxApr 13 03:21
WireWulfand the tandy lets face it they was abit junky for there timeApr 13 03:22
ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: I think there was a Linux distro that was made to work on Amigas but I'm not sure it did so well since it uses very specialized hardware. Ever heard of AROS?Apr 13 03:23
WireWulfnopeApr 13 03:25
WireWulfbut debian states it will work on most amigasApr 13 03:25
WireWulfi found a pic of my first computer i can remember useingApr 13 03:26
WireWulfand yeah it was out dated before my time but i come from a poor familyApr 13 03:26
WireWulfhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Timex_sinclair_2068_%282%29.jpg grand-dad got it in 83 i got it in 92Apr 13 03:27
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ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: AROS is built from the ground up to be a completely open source version of AmigaOS mimmicking v3.1 the most. It can either be ran hosted or native on PPC or x86 and they're working on a 68k version for NATAMIApr 13 03:27
ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: looks ruggedApr 13 03:30
WireWulflol i steal have it some whereApr 13 03:32
WireWulfin 93 my mom got a proper IBM computerApr 13 03:32
WireWulffor that point in timeApr 13 03:33
ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: I wish my childhood consisted of more unique hardware, even though my grandpa owned an old AT&T PCApr 13 03:33
WireWulfZiodotmatrix: everyone pushed me into computersApr 13 03:34
WireWulflol i still have the ibm Apr 13 03:35
WireWulfi dont think it works any longer thoApr 13 03:35
ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: sell it for top dollar to a private collector :-PApr 13 03:35
WireWulftell the truth i remember that computer scared the shit outta me when i was youngApr 13 03:38
WireWulfi still got my p1 mmx from 96Apr 13 03:39
ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: I remember when Intel was pimping that as the hottest thing for gaming since  3DApr 13 03:40
WireWulfgod i am a amd fan my selfApr 13 03:41
WireWulfas far ass x86 and x86_64 goApr 13 03:41
ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: same here ever since Intel was considering creating DRM sub-processing on the chipApr 13 03:42
WireWulflol intel doesnt have a 32bit process they for you to use a 30bit process and think it is 32bitApr 13 03:43
WireWulfi think ibm should have been smarter in the 90's and joined helped more with linuxApr 13 03:44
WireWulfM$ woulda had a hard time stopping itApr 13 03:45
WireWulfand apple would have diedApr 13 03:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @kerim: Constructing the Criminal Tribe in Colonial India: Acting Like a Thief. By Henry Schwarz. (Photo on cove... http://amzn.to/ao4thXApr 13 03:46
TechrightsBotTitle: Amazon.com: Constructing the Criminal Tribe in Colonial India: Acting Like a Thief (9781405120579): Henry Schwarz: Books .::. Size~: 215.58 KBApr 13 03:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @remixtures: Anatomy of ext4: get to know the fourth extended file system - Tim Jones (IBM) [17 Feb 2009] http://ff.im/-iW606Apr 13 03:47
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ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: yea but at the time IBM must have saw a small business as a more profitable venture then a loose community of programsApr 13 03:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @hfactor: IPL Kerala newslady Sunanda Pushkar is the Sales Manager of TECOM, UAE. Kochi Smartcity (via her linkedin) http://bit.ly/bgANfsApr 13 03:51
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WireWulfZiodotmatrix: but ha they took time and looked at it ibm would be like the highest rated stock right nowApr 13 03:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @manoharban: RT @gay_india: Sexual minorities in Backward Classes list likely in Karnataka: Deccan Herald http://bit.ly/bsgvzoApr 13 03:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @hfactor: Priyadarshan's next movie 'Bum Bum Bole'. Remake of Iranian classic 'Children of Heaven'. Taare Zameen Par's Darsheel Safary inApr 13 03:52
TechrightsBotTitle: Sexual minorities in BC list likely .::. Size~: 59.47 KBApr 13 03:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @aslam: 12% of all developers were women, but only 2% of FOSS developers are (women) [2005] http://tinyurl.com/yyt6mos has it changed?Apr 13 03:53
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ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: sometimes I think many elements of Wallstreet conspire against relatively open let alone customer and developer friendly companiesApr 13 03:54
WireWulfhey doApr 13 03:54
WireWulfthe fact remains nothing we do can change the copyrights as of yetApr 13 03:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @hrw: The Chinese govt's efforts 2 tighten cntrol over NGOs could roll back hardearned advances made by civilsociety http://bit.ly/dgIEMdApr 13 03:55
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ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: : in fact they're more reactionary to folks like us then anything else, ACTA anyone? :-PApr 13 03:56
WireWulfZiodotmatrix: the day M$ and apple murge to form A$$ will be a good day in computingApr 13 03:57
WireWulfas who in there rightmind or even left mind would want apple soft systems on there pcApr 13 03:58
ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: I can imagine a bunch of old Apple diehards screaming at once, then silence. It's kind of sad that they don't know the company they grew up with is dead or has extremely dumbed down the user as well as dev experienceApr 13 03:58
WireWulfZiodotmatrix: /M$/tards will cry Apr 13 03:59
WireWulf"how th fuck does it run" "this is confusing" "god i should have learned linux"Apr 13 04:00
WireWulf^i am hearing this now with windows6.1 umm i mean 7Apr 13 04:00
ZiodotmatrixWireWulf: lol too bad they couldn't learn from root and guest basicsApr 13 04:02
WireWulfhell read forums irc convos or got to books a million and you can learn linux basicsApr 13 04:03
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @digiphile: Italians use @Ushahidi to crowdsource monitoring of forests: http://j.mp/dxDCQv Video: http://j.mp/aEStc7 [HT @poplifegirl]Apr 13 04:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @copycense: On copyright's 300th anniversary, Economist calls for system to its roots http://bit.ly/ceiOc9 (via @Shocklee)Apr 13 04:06
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @dotRights: New #iPhone OS: app makers will soon know where you are. But will you know where that data is? http://bit.ly/cgaCfsApr 13 04:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @publicknowledge: We just signed the Wellington Declaration, which calls for the opening up of the ACTA negotiation http://bit.ly/byA2MnApr 13 04:07
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Congrats! RT @sayamindu: I'm leaving OLPC this summer to join the MIT Media Lab as a graduate student http://bit.ly/dwNUJqApr 13 04:09
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DaemonFCthe people on tech support for medicare.gov are scaryApr 13 04:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @schestowitz: #Google will discriminate against countries with slow Internet http://ur1.ca/unptApr 13 04:10
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DaemonFCCorrina:Apr 13 04:13
DaemonFCFor this website, on a PC, you will need to use Internet Explorer. I apologize, but this is the only compatible broswer.Apr 13 04:13
DaemonFCRyan:Apr 13 04:13
DaemonFCyou can't be seriousApr 13 04:13
DaemonFCCorrina:Apr 13 04:13
DaemonFCYes sir, I apologize for any inconvenience.Apr 13 04:13
DaemonFCRyan:Apr 13 04:13
DaemonFCI'll try to see if I can go back to 1998 and borrow a copyApr 13 04:13
DaemonFCRyan:Apr 13 04:13
DaemonFCthanksApr 13 04:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @houshuang: Openparliament.ca looks great! Now I just wish I had a vote in this country...Apr 13 04:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @aashiks: Google to Open Source the VP8 Codec http://is.gd/bqlhjApr 13 04:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @publicknowledge: How ACTA will change the World's Internet laws, quoting Sherwin: http://bit.ly/b8S2P9.Apr 13 04:14
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Ziodotmatrixinteresting article on ACTA and the diplomatic morass it's becoming: http://fortnightlyreview.info/2010/04/09/anti-counterfeiting-trade-agreement-negotiations-enter-the-next-round-but-will-this-acta-have-a-finale/Apr 13 04:27
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DaemonFChmmmmmApr 13 04:46
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DaemonFC  Indiana Code 9-21-11-12Apr 13 04:48
DaemonFCMotorized bicycles; prohibitions on operation; conditionsApr 13 04:48
DaemonFC     Sec. 12. A motorized bicycle may not be operated under any of Apr 13 04:48
DaemonFCthe following conditions:Apr 13 04:48
DaemonFC        (1) By a person less than fifteen (15) years of age.Apr 13 04:48
DaemonFC        (2) By a person who has not obtained an identification card under IC 9-24, a permit under IC 9-24, an operator's license under IC 9-24, a chauffeur's license under IC 9-24, or a public passenger chauffeur's license under IC 9-24.Apr 13 04:48
DaemonFC        (3) On an interstate highway or a sidewalk.Apr 13 04:48
DaemonFC        (4) At a speed greater than twenty-five (25) miles per hour.Apr 13 04:48
DaemonFCuh oh :PApr 13 04:48
DaemonFCon a sidewalk? :PApr 13 04:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @careabthealth @BadMarine I love pizza, BBQ, any kind of cake, and sheep //I blame the parents! For failure of #diet, not the sheep thingApr 13 04:48
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DaemonFCIC 9-21-11-14Apr 13 04:50
DaemonFCViolations; Class C infractionApr 13 04:50
DaemonFC     Sec. 14. A person who violates this chapter commits a Class C infraction.Apr 13 04:50
DaemonFCtraffic ticket :)Apr 13 04:50
DaemonFCa Class C Infraction can be fined up to $500 and court costsApr 13 04:52
DaemonFCouchApr 13 04:52
DaemonFCguess I'll just ride on the side of the road thenApr 13 04:52
DaemonFCbe a menace to trafficApr 13 04:52
DaemonFCperhaps get myself killedApr 13 04:52
DaemonFCwouldn't want to get in the way of all 1 pedestrian I'll likely encounter on the sidewalk from one side of town to the otherApr 13 04:53
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DaemonFC"You could always yell: "The throttle is stuck and the brakes went out!" They cant give you a ticket if you cant stop."Apr 13 05:03
DaemonFClolApr 13 05:03
DaemonFCniceApr 13 05:03
DaemonFCnot necessarily fact, but niceApr 13 05:04
DaemonFC"It's a Toyota bicycle!!!"Apr 13 05:04
DaemonFC:DApr 13 05:04
Diablo-D3they'd just taser you.Apr 13 05:04
DaemonFChmmmApr 13 05:04
DaemonFCDiablo-D3: I doubt they'd give me problemsApr 13 05:06
DaemonFCsee a cop, pretend to peddleApr 13 05:06
DaemonFCright?Apr 13 05:06
DaemonFC:DApr 13 05:06
DaemonFCI doubt it's something they'd even bother withApr 13 05:07
Diablo-D3yeah, but if you're peddling 40mph, I think they'red be a problemApr 13 05:08
DaemonFC15 mphApr 13 05:08
DaemonFC-ishApr 13 05:09
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DaemonFCDiablo-D3: To be honest, with the state of disrepair our sidewalks are in, it is probably safer to take my chances in trafficApr 13 05:10
DaemonFC:PApr 13 05:10
Diablo-D3lolApr 13 05:10
DaemonFC15 mph, hit a chunk of sidewalk that's elevated 6-7"....Apr 13 05:11
DaemonFCyeah :DApr 13 05:11
DaemonFChalf of them are still brick sidewalksApr 13 05:11
DaemonFCthe best sidewalk in town is in front of that Christian collegeApr 13 05:11
DaemonFCthey didn't want the eyesore so they paid the city to rip the old stuff outApr 13 05:12
Diablo-D3eyesore? noApr 13 05:13
Diablo-D3legal issue? yes.Apr 13 05:13
DaemonFChuh?Apr 13 05:13
Diablo-D3DaemonFC: someone trips on itApr 13 05:47
Diablo-D3college gets suedApr 13 05:47
Diablo-D3and the city as wellApr 13 05:47
cubezzzminimig looks interestingApr 13 05:56
cubezzzthe prices on ebay are a ripoff thoughApr 13 05:57
DaemonFCI've plotted a route to Marion that only makes me stay on single lane highway 9 for half a mileApr 13 05:59
DaemonFCthe alternative is travel 3 miles to avoid that half mileApr 13 05:59
DaemonFC:PApr 13 05:59
DaemonFCclearly not optimalApr 13 05:59
DaemonFCand in the end. it only costs me 0.8 miles to avoid 6 miles of single lane highway I couldn't deal with anyway B-)Apr 13 06:00
DaemonFC(26.3 miles) / (17 mph) = 1.54705882 hoursApr 13 06:02
DaemonFCtakes about 25 minutes in a carApr 13 06:02
DaemonFCbeats 9 hours of walking B-)Apr 13 06:02
DaemonFCI think this bike will turn out to be a good investmentApr 13 06:02
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] pic of #Guergis looking like slightly drugged, haughty, ice queen twin of Céline Dion isn't really helping her public image #harper #cdnpoliApr 13 06:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #POLYTECHNIQUE takes a *well deserved* NINE of its 11 Genie Award nominations incl Best Motion Picture. #cinema #canada http://bit.ly/9h4hiwApr 13 06:24
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] “it was straight from the heart and very, very painful,” Villeneuve on #POLYTECHNIQUE (I've never seen an audience so silent during credits)Apr 13 06:29
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] A beautiful open source contribution mailing list where we are discussing "how to contribute" #foss #india join here - http://bit.ly/dpQMtyApr 13 06:52
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] If you believe that the Hercules project infringes any IBM IP, please identify it so that we can investigate that claim http://ur1.ca/ut4dApr 13 07:48
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] But what about patents? ♺ @hugoroy: Google Will Release #VP8 Video Codec Under an Open Source License http://is.gd/bqyX8 #fsfe #fsf #html5Apr 13 08:23
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @greve Apple probably sought to prevent http://ur1.ca/tpqw by making the iPad. They failed. http://ur1.ca/tgwx What's next? iTable? ;)Apr 13 08:33
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schestowitzhttp://yalb.net/?p=159 "I’m not writing this to say that Ubuntu is awesome. I’ve had my share of problems with Ubuntu. I’m writing this to say that Caitlyn’s article is awful. She doesn’t say anything new and she makes vague complaints that only trick other people into trying to counter them. Well, I’m not feeding this troll."Apr 13 08:49
TechrightsBotTitle: Yet Another Linux Blog  » Blog Archive   » Caitlyn Martin is a troll! .::. Size~: 5.03 KBApr 13 08:49
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/iluvpclinuxos/statuses/12054918851Apr 13 08:53
TechrightsBotTitle: Twitter / pclinuxos: Starting to upload you kno ... .::. Size~: 10.64 KBApr 13 08:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @iluvpclinuxos Starting to upload you know what to the server. Shh don't tell everyone ok? >> I love #PCLinuxOS !!Apr 13 08:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @omar_s_hafez your friend about GNU/Linux: http://chris.pirillo.com/linux-mpx-multi-touch-table/Apr 13 09:03
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schestowitzhttp://newteevee.com/2010/04/12/google-to-open-source-vp8-for-html5-video/ Wonderful news, no doubt. I wouldn't want to be Adobe right now.Apr 13 09:05
TechrightsBotTitle: Google to Open-source VP8 for HTML5 Video  .::. Size~: 80.72 KBApr 13 09:05
schestowitzIt's also what the FSF asked GOogle to doApr 13 09:06
schestowitzhttp://www.networkworld.com/community/node/59983Apr 13 09:11
TechrightsBotTitle: Is Oracle Sailing the $7B Sun Ship Onto the Rocks? | NetworkWorld.com Community .::. Size~: 84.7 KBApr 13 09:11
schestowitzPeople used to say Oracle would ruin the hardware sideApr 13 09:15
schestowitzSeems to have been the oppositeApr 13 09:15
schestowitzhttp://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/technology/latest-red-hat-release-exploits-multicore-chipsApr 13 09:21
TechrightsBotTitle: Computerworld > Latest Red Hat release exploits multicore chips .::. Size~: 27.21 KBApr 13 09:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] ukip wants to end national insurance and take as back to before the liberal 1911 reformsApr 13 09:29
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schestowitzhttp://blogs.zdnet.com/perlow/?p=12681Apr 13 09:38
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] If #Google takes video free, why include Flush [sic] in #Chrome ? Odd timing. http://ur1.ca/uua9Apr 13 09:44
TechrightsBotTitle: Farewell, NPAPI! Google Chrome's internal Flash plugin now on by default .::. Size~: 74.38 KBApr 13 09:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] ukip say less chance their banker backed party will be corrupt. despite some of there mep's being in gaol and having criminal recordsApr 13 09:44
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-oWx27r5XsApr 13 09:58
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- Erykah Badu CREATIVE and NAKED .::. Size~: 78.91 KBApr 13 09:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] You may want to reinvent your day by turning your schedule ups... More for Aquarius http://twittascope.com/?sign=11Apr 13 10:01
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @lessig: the talk at Brown for the Brown chapter of #democracymatters: http://bit.ly/cc64GNApr 13 10:07
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TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- Christopher Hitchens on Real Time w Bill Maher, March 26, 2010. .::. Size~: 79.06 KBApr 13 10:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @gkjohn: "Wal-Mart ... is trying to do to agriculture here [in India] what it has done to industries around the world http://is.gd/bqFEuApr 13 10:09
TechrightsBotTitle: Looking to Expand in India, Wal-Mart Goes to the Farm - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 74.26 KBApr 13 10:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @zoobab: RT @jwildeboer: Some more background on VP8, Ogg, patents, Google that u should know about when discussing.. http://is.gd/bqEhPApr 13 10:10
TechrightsBotTitle: ginger's thoughts » Googles challenges of freeing VP8 .::. Size~: 76.48 KBApr 13 10:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @jwildeboer: When google opensources VP8 - what about the patents on it? RF or RAND? Google, explain please.Apr 13 10:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @jwildeboer: Seeing history, it would only be fair if Google donates all "IP" of VP8 to Ogg project.http://is.gd/bqEaBApr 13 10:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @jwildeboer: My prediction: VP8 will simply be positioned as next version of ogg theora. Hopefully Google will open up all "IP" to the coApr 13 10:12
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satiperaukip  it gets worse it is only employers national insurance they want to get rid of, they will probably make employees pay it insteadApr 13 10:32
satiperasorry wrong boxApr 13 10:33
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWHiijk2Yb0Apr 13 10:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] ukip it gets worse it is only employers national insurance they want to get rid of, they will probably make employees pay it insteadApr 13 10:33
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL08) unloads a full stand-up routine on Sarah Palin (R-Quitter) .::. Size~: 81.11 KBApr 13 10:34
schestowitzscientes: Palin said to "take out" Grayson!!Apr 13 10:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Is Palin calling for violence against Democrats? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWHiijk2Yb0Apr 13 10:36
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL08) unloads a full stand-up routine on Sarah Palin (R-Quitter) .::. Size~: 80.82 KBApr 13 10:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @anjakovacs: Fr Tehelka: ‘There Are No #Rights, No Constitution, No Rule Of Law. Is This Democracy?’ , http://bit.ly/bbmNiqApr 13 10:45
TechrightsBotTitle: Tehelka - India's Independent Weekly News Magazine .::. Size~: 27.84 KBApr 13 10:46
schestowitz"@schestowitz ’cos Flash is used for more than just video. As mentioned in the article you linked, it’s good for file uploaders and more too." http://twitter.com/dylanparry/statuses/12093953192Apr 13 10:51
TechrightsBotTitle: Twitter / Dylan Parry: @schestowitz ’cos Flash is ... .::. Size~: 10.9 KBApr 13 10:51
schestowitz"yes, but SVG+JS can make it spurious"Apr 13 10:52
schestowitzFlash is dying. I'm so excited :-pApr 13 10:52
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se12y9hSOM0Apr 13 11:05
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- The Story of Bottled Water (2010) .::. Size~: 81.67 KBApr 13 11:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @riyazusman: Kochi IPL Team - An IPLish Start! - new blog post http://bit.ly/92zLL7Apr 13 11:13
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @aslam: RT @whiteafrican: Freedom Fone, the free & open source IVR system is now available http://freedomfone.orgApr 13 11:23
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oiaohmAnyone else noticing the acceleration of companies becoming Linux Foundation members.Apr 13 11:25
schestowitz4 in a  weekApr 13 11:39
schestowitzOIN ooApr 13 11:39
schestowitz*tooApr 13 11:39
oiaohmseams to line up with the release of meego schestowitzApr 13 11:41
oiaohmOver 20 companies have publically stated support for meego.  How many for ubuntu?Apr 13 11:42
schestowitz20?Apr 13 11:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Infrastructure Already Put in Place in Parts of the #NHS http://ur1.ca/uuu0Apr 13 11:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] don't these small government people understand, government is there to do the things no one wants to or can't make a profit out of!Apr 13 11:48
TechrightsBotTitle: Labour trumpets open-source success | Regulation | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 44.65 KBApr 13 11:48
oiaohmhttp://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/announcements/2010/04/public-support-meego-project  Note I said over.   schestowitzApr 13 11:49
TechrightsBotTitle: Public Support for the MeeGo Project | The Linux Foundation .::. Size~: 35.07 KBApr 13 11:49
schestowitzI didn't know that........Apr 13 11:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux is of Use to Everyone (for Getting Real Work Done) http://ur1.ca/uuuy Servers too: http://ur1.ca/uuuzApr 13 11:53
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TechrightsBotTitle: Cheap linux hosting is perfect for the businesses as linux platform .::. Size~: 21 KBApr 13 11:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at the The Unity #Linux Build #Server http://unitylinuxdev.wordpress.com/2010/04/12/the-unity-linux-build-server/Apr 13 11:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Vietnam is Deploying #GNU #Linux Desktops (Thousands of Units) http://ur1.ca/uuv6Apr 13 11:54
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft MVP Impressed by Multi-Touch #GNU #Linux http://chris.pirillo.com/linux-mpx-multi-touch-table/Apr 13 11:56
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Sony Faces PR Problems After Turning Sour on #GNU #Linux (Which Can Still be Installed Anyway) http://www.kgw.com/your-pics/90577749.htmlApr 13 11:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Qubes Operating System and #IPFire Are Based on #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/uuvm http://ur1.ca/uuvoApr 13 11:58
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #Softpedia Linux Weekly; New Audiocasts About #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/uuvz http://ur1.ca/uuw0 http://ur1.ca/up78Apr 13 11:59
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TechrightsBotTitle: Going Linux · 2010 Show Notes .::. Size~: 65.62 KBApr 13 12:00
TechrightsBotTitle: Linux Outlaws 145 - Big Meerkat Balls | Linux Outlaws .::. Size~: 21.74 KBApr 13 12:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Meyer Sound Ups is Commitment to #GNU #Linux by Joining the Kernel's Foundation http://ur1.ca/uuw8Apr 13 12:01
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oiaohmOne of the catches to join meego as a company is joining Linux foundation.    Now this also will cause Ubuntu a few problems on netbooks and the like.Apr 13 12:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #Linux File Systems http://tcs-security-blanket.blogspot.com/2010/04/linux-file-systems.htmlApr 13 12:16
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Proprietary Opera Browser Runs on Desktops and Phones Everywhere (GNU/Linux Too) http://ur1.ca/uuyuApr 13 12:18
TechrightsBotTitle: Opera Browser Download Statistcs - 100 million mark reached .::. Size~: 47.21 KBApr 13 12:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] RT @Webwereld Google steunt open source videocodec Theora http://webwereld.nl/t/65699.htmlApr 13 12:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Store and List of #GNU #Linux #Games http://ur1.ca/uuz1 http://ur1.ca/urlhApr 13 12:20
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Discriminates Against #GNU #Linux in #XBLA and Games http://ur1.ca/uuz9 http://ur1.ca/uuzbApr 13 12:21
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] @schestowitz You alone write so many tweets and blogs Or you have some helping hand :) Please never stop !Apr 13 12:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #KDE 4.5 Release Schedule is Published http://ur1.ca/uuzu see http://ur1.ca/uuzv http://ur1.ca/uuzw http://ur1.ca/uuzxApr 13 12:25
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TechrightsBotTitle: File Transfers in KDE 4 | kdedevelopers.org .::. Size~: 23.26 KBApr 13 12:25
TechrightsBotTitle: aseigo: solving a little problem with a slightly bigger solution .::. Size~: 99.03 KBApr 13 12:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Gee, why can't #Apple #Mail at least ASK IF I'M SURE before accidentally attaching 350MB to a message. What mail server even allows that?!?!Apr 13 12:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Targeting #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux at Developing Nations http://www.workswithu.com/2010/04/11/selling-ubuntu-to-the-third-world/Apr 13 12:28
TechrightsBotTitle: Selling Ubuntu to the "Third World" | WorksWithU .::. Size~: 54.84 KBApr 13 12:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @InfoChange: India has no rules governing radioactive waste: The recent radiation incident in Delhi’s Mayapuri in... http://bit.ly/alOJ4VApr 13 12:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @qu1j0t3 Gee, why can't #Apple #Mail at least ASK IF I'M SURE before accidentally attaching 350MB to a message.Apr 13 12:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat in Good Shape, #Fedora 13 in Beta http://ur1.ca/uv1t http://ur1.ca/uv1u http://ur1.ca/uv1xApr 13 12:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] RD @jwildeboer MSFT: What?!? Your game also runs on Linux? And MacOS? No way to run on XBox! http://is.gd/bqPrfApr 13 12:39
TechrightsBotTitle: Fedora 13 Beta Release tomorrow | Williams Corner .::. Size~: 32.68 KBApr 13 12:40
TechrightsBotTitle: Allegheny first-years dive into Fedora | opensource.com .::. Size~: 36.99 KBApr 13 12:40
TechrightsBotTitle: Updated #2: Machinarium refused for XBLA. Moves on to PSN instead. | xblafans.com .::. Size~: 57.16 KBApr 13 12:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Debian Repositories Get Wayback Machine Archives, Woman May Become Project Leader http://ur1.ca/ur0n http://ur1.ca/uv24Apr 13 12:41
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Distrowatch Review of #sidux #GNU #Linux http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20100412#feature #debianApr 13 12:51
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux Makes Handheld Console, Neuros Makes GNU/Linux PVRs http://ur1.ca/uv3e http://ur1.ca/uv3fApr 13 12:53
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nokia 's #GNU #Linux Efforts Expand http://ur1.ca/uv3m http://ur1.ca/uv3n http://ur1.ca/uv3oApr 13 12:55
TechrightsBotTitle:   MeeGo project garners new industry participants  .::. Size~: 41.87 KBApr 13 12:55
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TechrightsBotTitle: Nokia Launch: Symbian ^3, Or Just Maps? | eWEEK Europe UK .::. Size~: 28.84 KBApr 13 12:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Android / #Linux Becomes Relevant in Many More Phones http://ur1.ca/uv3y http://ur1.ca/uv3z http://ur1.ca/uv40Apr 13 12:57
TechrightsBotTitle:  The Tilt Toward Android Is Only In Its Infancy  .::. Size~: 29.84 KBApr 13 12:57
TechrightsBotTitle: HTC Incredible To Be Officially Announced Monday! | Android Phone Fans .::. Size~: 60.66 KBApr 13 12:57
TechrightsBotTitle: Square Motorola Device Codenamed Twist, Due in June | AndroidGuys .::. Size~: 31.88 KBApr 13 12:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Sub-notebooks and Tablets to Run #Linux Distributions from #Google http://ur1.ca/uv4c http://ur1.ca/us0jApr 13 12:58
TechrightsBotTitle:   Why Google is a Big Part of Linux's Future On Netbooks  .::. Size~: 26.61 KBApr 13 12:59
TechrightsBotTitle: Google Preparing iPad Rival - Google tablet - Gizmodo .::. Size~: 65.68 KBApr 13 12:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Tablets Running #GNU #Linux Look Better Than hypePad http://ur1.ca/uv4i http://ur1.ca/uv4jApr 13 13:01
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #India Organises More #FreeSoftware Events http://ur1.ca/uv4s also interesting: http://ur1.ca/uv4tApr 13 13:03
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TechrightsBotTitle:   Use value and free software : the new topyli standard .::. Size~: 47.49 KBApr 13 13:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla #Firefox Has Almost 0.4 Billion Users http://ur1.ca/uv56 huge ecosystem: http://ur1.ca/uv58Apr 13 13:05
TechrightsBotTitle: Letting Firefox Move Faster: Solving The Innovators Dilemma «  Aza on Design .::. Size~: 34.27 KBApr 13 13:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Oracle 's Database Challenged by Former #MySQL Head http://ur1.ca/uv65Apr 13 13:12
TechrightsBotTitle: Sun MySQL Head Joins EnterpriseDB -- Open Source -- InformationWeek .::. Size~: 65.03 KBApr 13 13:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Education With #FreeSoftware : Critical Analysis http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/59995Apr 13 13:14
TechrightsBotTitle: Educating on open source: Not as easy as it seems | NetworkWorld.com Community .::. Size~: 76.31 KBApr 13 13:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Business Around #FreeSoftware Seems to be Up Sharply http://ur1.ca/uv6x also see http://ur1.ca/uv6yApr 13 13:16
TechrightsBotTitle:   Key Statements from Marten Mickos PARC Forum Talk .::. Size~: 15.41 KBApr 13 13:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #BSD Magazine April 2010 is Released http://bsdmag.org/magazine/1049-hosting-bsdApr 13 13:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz I can vouch for how good Opera is. Im running it on the HTC....very happy. #android #opera.Apr 13 13:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Releases of #RadioTray , #VirtualBox , and #Awn http://ur1.ca/uv75 http://ur1.ca/uv76 http://ur1.ca/uv77Apr 13 13:19
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TechrightsBotTitle: ~mhr3: Awn & Awn-Extras 0.4.0 are out! .::. Size~: 78.47 KBApr 13 13:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Speaks About #FreeSoftware in #Government http://opensource.com/government/10/4/open-source-headlines-open-government-plansApr 13 13:20
TechrightsBotTitle: Open source headlines from the Open Government plans | opensource.com .::. Size~: 60.11 KBApr 13 13:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenAccess Receives Funds, Commonsware Publishing Model Explained http://ur1.ca/uv7v http://ur1.ca/uv7wApr 13 13:23
TechrightsBotTitle: OpenUp – TSO Launches Open Data Challenge with £50,000 Development Fund - tso.co.uk .::. Size~: 15.94 KBApr 13 13:23
TechrightsBotTitle: P2P Foundation  » Blog Archive   » The commonsware publishing model .::. Size~: 53.16 KBApr 13 13:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Patents-Free Video Standards Gain Momentum http://ur1.ca/uv84 http://ur1.ca/us04 will Google abandon #swpat ?Apr 13 13:24
TechrightsBotTitle: Introducing the Ogg .::. Size~: 37.94 KBApr 13 13:24
TechrightsBotTitle: Google to Open-source VP8 for HTML5 Video  .::. Size~: 108.02 KBApr 13 13:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Civil Rights Stomped on in the UK, China, and WikiLeaks http://ur1.ca/uv89 http://ur1.ca/uv8a http://ur1.ca/uv8bApr 13 13:26
TechrightsBotTitle: Parliamentary wash-up washes away liberties • The Register .::. Size~: 38.31 KBApr 13 13:26
TechrightsBotTitle: Chinese human rights lawyer abandons activism to reunite with family |World news |The Guardian .::. Size~: 67.81 KBApr 13 13:26
TechrightsBotTitle: International man of mystery .::. Size~: 98.73 KBApr 13 13:26
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zoobabTwitter is over capacityApr 13 13:32
zoobabtime to understand how to use Identi.ca and decentralised systesmApr 13 13:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] What's wrong with #Facebook? Eben Moglen is happy to explain. http://bit.ly/c9qIle (it's also what's wrong with #Gmail,& @Twitter too) #sflcApr 13 13:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Comcast Shows Why #FreeSoftware Will be Required to Avoid Abuse from Hollywood http://ur1.ca/uvbfApr 13 13:45
TechrightsBotTitle: Slashdot News Story | Comcast Disables VCR Scheduling In New Guide .::. Size~: 184.08 KBApr 13 13:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IntellectualMonopolies Take a Hit at #hypePad App, Users http://ur1.ca/uvbs http://ur1.ca/uvbu http://ur1.ca/uvbwApr 13 13:47
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TechrightsBotTitle: TBI Solicitors lost its bottle?  Law firms pulls out of file sharing venture «  OPEN BYTES  cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. .::. Size~: 38.57 KBApr 13 13:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More #ACTA Extortion from the US Lobby http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/4949/125/Apr 13 13:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Latest Example of #Paywall Failures http://paidcontent.org/article/419-freedoms-valley-morning-star-drops-its-pay-wall/Apr 13 13:50
TechrightsBotTitle: Freedom Communications Valley Morning Star Drops Its Pay Wall| paidContent .::. Size~: 30.39 KBApr 13 13:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How #Microsoft Launches #Antitrust Complaints Against #GNU #Linux , Using OpenMainframe.org as Lobby http://ur1.ca/uqeoApr 13 13:52
TechrightsBotTitle: Groklaw - Digging a Little Deeper into TurboHercules/IBM -  OpenMainframe.org and Microsoft .::. Size~: 324.06 KBApr 13 13:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google Can Fight #MPEG -LA Patents http://www.the-source.com/2010/04/google-to-open-source-vp8/Apr 13 13:54
TechrightsBotTitle: Google to Open Source VP8? .::. Size~: 34.02 KBApr 13 13:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Digital Economy Bill Shows British Public Which MPs Are Likely to be Corruptible http://ur1.ca/uve2 #debillApr 13 13:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Zealand's Software Developers Respond to the "IP Cartel" http://ur1.ca/uign http://ur1.ca/uve8Apr 13 13:58
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TechrightsBotTitle: Computerworld > Power backs deletion of software patents .::. Size~: 37.69 KBApr 13 13:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Gratis Engelstalig BSD Magazine te downloaden [PDF] (je moet wel je e-mail adres opgeven): http://bsdmag.org/ #vindikleuk ;-)Apr 13 13:59
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schestowitzzoobab: create identica accountApr 13 14:03
zoobabI have oneApr 13 14:03
schestowitzSet it up to send copies to twitter. I stated with identica, later sent copies to twitterApr 13 14:03
schestowitzOhApr 13 14:03
schestowitzI'll add you thereApr 13 14:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin that's how they make incomeApr 13 14:04
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/zoobabApr 13 14:05
TechrightsBotTitle: Benjamin Henrion (zoobab)  - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 30.96 KBApr 13 14:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @eduvid I read yours too. It's in IRCApr 13 14:07
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schestowitzRe: DOS was state of the artApr 13 14:08
schestowitz> I recall at least half a dozen other systems more advanced than "Microsoft DOS"Apr 13 14:08
schestowitz> Apr 13 14:08
schestowitz> http://slashdot.org/submission/1214578/DOS-was-state-of-the-artApr 13 14:08
TechrightsBotTitle: Slashdot Submission | DOS was state of the art, .::. Size~: 42.69 KBApr 13 14:08
schestowitz"@schestowitz anyone who uses comcast pretty much hates him/herself, for a standing but growing list of reasons" http://identi.ca/conversation/28324219#notice-28372795Apr 13 14:09
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schestowitzI reckon Comcast employees don't like their employer, either. Comcast is AstroTurfing (caught)Apr 13 14:09
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/28325556#notice-28373657 "i like to think you're a "complete wacko freetard" too @schestowitz, at least matt asay thinks so"Apr 13 14:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] RD @jerezim "I will not support any outcome that would compromise freedom of expression" - N. Kroes (about #NetNeutralityApr 13 14:11
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] !wackofreetards forever !cwfApr 13 14:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] I'm now perfectly happy to be called a freetard if that means I only want to use Free Software :)Apr 13 14:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Scary watching people at work monkey around aimlessly with their network settings in Windows XP.Apr 13 14:21
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] biggest things open source does to discredit fs is not quote or critique, but misquote, exaggerate, paraphrase, or simply inventApr 13 14:28
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] but then so did thoreau, who was not only a complete wacko freetard, he was also a bit of a hypocrite by some standardsApr 13 14:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] the language is getting worse on shot of jaq, time to tone it down a bit fellasApr 13 14:31
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] I am using elm_slider,I want to know how to block the callback and unblockApr 13 14:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] it.Apr 13 14:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] oops, sorry for the paste, guys... :|Apr 13 14:37
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] on the other hand, none of that means he didn't exist. it means skeptics aren't insisting the earth is flatApr 13 14:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @gkjohn: Indian Scientists Refuse To Patent Tuberculosis Genome, Encourage Anyone To Make The Drugs http://ff.im/-iXsCdApr 13 14:45
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] "we’re not going to win the '#freedom of the net' discussion carrying #Facebook on our backs" Eben Moglen #SFLC http://bit.ly/c9qIle #chinaApr 13 14:49
TechrightsBotTitle: Freedom In the Cloud .::. Size~: 44.24 KBApr 13 14:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Online sites win journalism firsts at Pulitzers http://link.reuters.com/kaz57j (via @Reuters)Apr 13 14:52
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] approaching my 15000th dentApr 13 14:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] "Everyday that goes by there’s more data inferences we can’t undo..we pile more stuff in hands of ppl who got too much" http://bit.ly/c9qIleApr 13 14:54
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] @satipera if wikileaks doesn't get honorable mention it's a scandalApr 13 14:58
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] no one ever said linux was evil, incidentally http://identi.ca/search/notice?q=linux+evil well, ballmer probably didApr 13 15:08
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] stuff like that is exactly why @rms incorrectly thinks ND-type licenses are a good idea.Apr 13 15:08
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WillThought this was kinda funny:Apr 13 15:09
Willhttp://kotaku.com/5514127/report-machinariummicrosoft-deal-breaks-down-over-exclusive-issue-%5Bupdated%5DApr 13 15:09
TechrightsBotTitle: Report: Machinarium/Microsoft Deal Breaks Down Over Exclusive Issue [Updated] - Machinarium - Kotaku .::. Size~: 69.54 KBApr 13 15:09
WillBasically, after half a year of talks, Microsoft refused to publish a critically acclaimed indie game on Xbox Live Arcade because the game had already been released for Mac and Linux.  Microsoft didn't want to support games that aren't Microsoft exclusives, even though they liked the game and knew it would sell well on XBLA.Apr 13 15:11
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] yacy links to non-federated resources, but its own features and implementation are p2p. i'm thinking of something more like that.Apr 13 15:13
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] most websites, by virtue of being websites, are not federated. maybe someday we'll all host our sites p2p, but not yetApr 13 15:13
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] @satipera fair enough. thanks for clarifying thatApr 13 15:18
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/28327151#notice-28375962 "@schestowitz no, from a conversation about me. he did say something like that about you once though, didn't he?"Apr 13 15:30
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schestowitzHaha. Asay accusationsApr 13 15:30
schestowitzand re Comcast (daemonfc might mind): "@schestowitz astroturfing begs for its own website- but who has the time?" http://identi.ca/conversation/28327067#notice-28376162Apr 13 15:32
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] great quote stuart langridge "why do british phonographic institute get to propose legistlation to mp's and we are always on the back foot?"Apr 13 15:41
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schestowitzbblApr 13 15:50
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Jose_Xschestowitz, I posted a comment (still in moderation) here: http://www.linux-foundation.org/weblogs/jzemlin/2010/04/07/ibms-open-source-patent-pledge/#comment-20946Apr 13 15:59
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Jose_XI'll quote it to make sure you know what it says. The comment should be self-explanatory for anyone that is aware of the IBM TurboHercules back-and-forth and who has some developer experience.Apr 13 16:01
Jose_XI don't think growklaw has covered the binary only case (PJ did cover the turnkey solution, which includes Windows)Apr 13 16:02
Jose_X>>Apr 13 16:02
Jose_XNeither of TurboHercules' products, turnkey and binary only version, has the sources specified fully and hence is not (or should not) be considered Open Source Software as per the IBM pledge.Apr 13 16:02
Jose_XYou cannot specify the sources fully if the build process involves proprietary (closed source) components. Any proprietary component can change any arbitrary part of the software to behave very differently from what would be anticipated by looking only at the source code for that component being built. We need the source code (or a full and correct specification) for the full build platform to ensure an open system.Apr 13 16:02
Jose_XEach version of TH's product appears to require access to Microsoft software (build time and/or runtime). I am not certain of this, but I suspect this is the case based on what I read at the hercules project website in the Windows binary section. TH does state on their website that they use an optimized binary. I think we can almost be sure that they use Microsoft software in the build process and perhaps even used Microsoft softwareApr 13 16:02
Jose_X that was taylor-made for the purpose (eg, special compilation and a special license or partnership with Microsoft).Apr 13 16:02
Jose_X<<Apr 13 16:02
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Make your arranged marriage work - http://j.mp/b5v6ZP /via @shivaranjanApr 13 16:08
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Morning All! How are we doing today?Apr 13 16:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] New Shot Of Jaq! The Lobbyist's Recipe - http://is.gd/br326 - are lobbyists and digital rights groups really helping? #shotofjaqApr 13 16:11
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Eruaransigh... pizza delivery guy is an idiotApr 13 16:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Rant of the Day: asshole. Sorry, let's now go on with business as usual *sigh*Apr 13 16:18
amarsh04If I want pizza at this hour of the night, there is a place in Adelaide that is open until 5am - I never have had pizza deliveredApr 13 16:21
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] RT @ladyhere Look again at that dot - Carl Sagan - http://i.imgur.com/miDah.pngApr 13 16:58
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Jose_Xschestowitz, here is another comment related to the one quoted a little while ago. This one was posted on http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100408153953613#commentsApr 13 16:59
Jose_X>>Apr 13 16:59
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Jose_Xsubj: No such thing as open source on WindowsApr 13 16:59
Jose_XCome to think of it, no binary for Windows should be considered FOSS (so long as Windows+friends are closed source and/or not fully and accurately specified).Apr 13 16:59
Jose_XFurther, if you take GPL source code and build it for Windows using such Microsoft tools or use such ill-defined Windows (closed source) interfaces, then you would be in violation of the GPL if you don't include the source code (or full correct specification) to this Microsoft build and run time software.Apr 13 16:59
Jose_XIn short, not only can we not verify WinFOSS binary behavior, but likely such typical "GPL" WinFOSS binaries are in violation of the GPL.Apr 13 16:59
Jose_Xhttp://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.htmlApr 13 16:59
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Jose_X>> 3.  You may copy and distribute the Program (or a work based on it, under Section 2) in object code or executable form under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above provided that you also do one of the following:Apr 13 16:59
Jose_X>>    a) Accompany it with the complete corresponding machine-readable source codeApr 13 16:59
Jose_Xhttp://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html [gplv3]Apr 13 16:59
TechrightsBotTitle: The GNU General Public License - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) .::. Size~: 42.28 KBApr 13 16:59
Jose_XSee the analogous sections as quoted for gplv2 above and read the definitions for "source code", "Standard Interface", "System Libraries", and "Corresponding Source"Apr 13 16:59
Jose_XI think at some point in time people helping to support Windows by bringing in new $0 features to that platform by way of WinFOSS binaries will have to decide to stop that behavior or else accept that they are violating the GPL.Apr 13 16:59
Jose_XIt would surprise me not one bit that Microsoft has shun the GPL for a long time specifically because they know their build tools and run times do not conform to any public spec. [Simply, they don't provide source code, so we cannot see their "bugs".]Apr 13 16:59
Jose_X<<Apr 13 16:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] I don't know about pressing the red X button in Lucid by accident. But I tend to press CTRL+Q when aiming for CTRL+W too often!Apr 13 17:02
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Eruaran"Empty your mind; Be formless, shapeless, like water. You put water into a bottle it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Water can flow, or it can crash. Be water my friend." - Bruce LeeApr 13 17:05
EruaranI agree with Jose_X in principle yet we do have customers for whom it is difficult to completely get rid of Windows. Unless I am incorrect and someone can demonstrate to me a complete Free Software replacement for LawPerfect or Sage Handisoft. Right now, for such customers I think if we can reduce their dependency on Windows that this is at least a step in the right direction. Apr 13 17:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Ubuntu Lucid Release party planned on the Isle of Man! http://bit.ly/c41LghApr 13 17:11
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Linux suck, huh? Well, check this out: http://bit.ly/bMP8Q4 @odaynasserApr 13 17:24
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Omar87schestowitz, pingApr 13 17:24
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Mono is no longer included in default installation of Fedora: http://tinyurl.com/y2a2zom (no mono apps so no mono)Apr 13 17:28
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] DW: Is Java slow on Niagara? http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/33668.html #java #sparcApr 13 17:29
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Lamb Of God, Smooth Jazz style - http://is.gd/br8qi #comedygoldApr 13 17:30
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] On a similar note, this is fantastic: http://is.gd/br8DVApr 13 17:33
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sebsebsebhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/04/oscar-winning-video-editor-goes-open.htmlApr 13 17:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Brilliant explanation of how to use the html5 <video> tag http://tinyurl.com/y97hcyxApr 13 17:42
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] RT @aashiks http://is.gd/br98Q Programming languages, operating systems, despair and angerApr 13 17:48
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] RT @unitedstatespirateparty Copyright Killed the Video Star http://ping.fm/plj2j GKApr 13 17:53
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] copyright killed the video star (ogg version) http://tinyogg.com/watch/QqL1n/Apr 13 17:58
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] basic wasn't just easy and fun, it was ubiquitous and used in classrooms. today the closest phenomenon to basic really is pythonApr 13 18:03
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] even if they didn't use it in classes, python is everywhere. almost everyone who uses free software has a copy already- plus mac usersApr 13 18:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Angie Byron & Jeff Robbins on TWiT Live Tomorrow | Lullabot - \o/ http://tinyurl.com/y5uxmmvApr 13 18:14
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] this is sexy, almost like bash: http://www.rebol.com/oneliners.html (what does "sexy" mean? i don't know, ask dom deloise)Apr 13 18:18
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] The same Ariel Sharon now is dangling between life and death. Allah is punishing him a thousand times before he takes him to hell. @annyksaApr 13 18:27
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] RT @aashiks @openuniverse there is always http://peppy.flipturn.org/Apr 13 18:28
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] RT @exador23 i'm beginning to suggest to BORG people that they should have their own statusnet installation. big w http://exador.status. ...Apr 13 18:28
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] RT @threethirty ♻ Apache Foundation Attacked, Passwords Stolen http://bit.ly/dxS4GXApr 13 18:38
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] "The host OS doesn't even enter in to it. They exploited JIRA, which is in Java, to steal cookies" anonymous cowardApr 13 18:38
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] RT @makin257 Malware Threatens to Sue BitTorrent #Downloaders [PICS] - http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/04/ransomware/Apr 13 18:48
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] so when adverts appear on twitter shortly how will we get rid of them, don't say identica i am on that tooApr 13 18:58
satiperai have gone for minimal on the buttons yarn. i never use min bottom bar as i use 8 desktops, full screen-window can be achieved by clicking on the bar so that leaves me with the close button on the left, it works.Apr 13 19:06
MinceR(flash) (video) (audio) http://agilesoftwaredevelopment.com/blog/artem/downfall-agile-hitlerApr 13 19:08
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] if i "hate" microsoft it's not something wrong with me, there's a fucking good (list of) reason(s) for it, mr. torvalds.Apr 13 19:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Twitter Adverts Coming Soon http://is.gd/brgIKApr 13 19:35
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] cozying into bed with ppl that are trying to put you in prison for writing software and sharing files online may not be evil, but it's dumbApr 13 19:38
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] and yeah,people trying to put people in prison for exercising the freedom of speech they SHOULD have but for corporate greed? THAT'S"evil."Apr 13 19:38
schestowitzOmar87: yoApr 13 19:41
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] vatican blames homosexuality not celibacy for abuse, problem will run as vatican will not admit the problem is testosterone with no outletApr 13 19:43
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] RT @bigbrovar My colleague @jargon was in my office to check the weather from my kde weather plasmoid. It showed that it would rain toda ...Apr 13 19:43
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] RT @bigbrovar .. A vow that if it rains (which would make it first rain in 8 months) he would quite gnome and install kde. Lets see if h ...Apr 13 19:43
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] RT @robmyers @openuniverse Concentrating on opinions formed as a result of actions rather than those actions is a failure of perspective ...Apr 13 19:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] will it be another 20 years before the usa rushes into another stupid war or have they learned their lesson? come on what does it take?Apr 13 19:48
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] @satipera if we're going to let priests shift the blame to gays,i'm goingto shift the"blame"for homosexuality onto the pope for wearing dragApr 13 19:48
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] RT @qchapter Blog Post: Why I Want My Daughter to be a Hacker - http://2tu.us/1z09 !linux !gnu #independenceApr 13 19:48
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] @satipera it's more reasonable than shifting the blame for a real problem onto something that's not a problemApr 13 19:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] re: TurboHerculus: "Balmer's chant should have been, "Lawyers Lawyers Lawyers Lawyers Lawyers Lawyers..."" http://ur1.ca/uwxxApr 13 19:58
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] @satipera the easy theist reply is that god gave us room to screw up, but from there it gets more complicated- i mean, why?Apr 13 19:58
schestowitzThe rise, rise and rise of the Downfall Hitler parody http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8617454.stmApr 13 20:02
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] latest poll 3 percent for tory's, huzzah hung parliament and next election under pr i can only hope to an end from this chimp politicsApr 13 20:06
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] @satipera hung parliament eh? and that's just for debill? brits are more hardcore than i thought :)Apr 13 20:08
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] conceivably it could have always been for war crimes, but at least they admit being responsible for debillApr 13 20:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #TurboHercules shows some previous documents , but fails to distance self from MicrosoftApr 13 20:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Techrights is now ranked 1888th for traffic in Netcraft. It used to be around 1900th in 2008, ahead of many Linux sitesApr 13 20:10
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] let them download cakeApr 13 20:13
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] @satipera we're all god's (bastard) children, i supposeApr 13 20:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @schestowitz nice work techrights clan i hope you keep it upApr 13 20:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @schestowitz: #TurboHercules shows some previous documents , but fails to distance self from MicrosoftApr 13 20:18
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] US government finally admits most piracy estimates are bogus http://ur1.ca/ux55Apr 13 20:23
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Steven Segal sued for having sex slaves http://ur1.ca/ux5l #wtf #douchebagApr 13 20:28
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] will someone please tell me what is the difference between politics as presently practised and propaganda from cheesy advertising companies?Apr 13 20:33
schestowitz"@schestowitz dig deep. TH is strange case." http://identi.ca/conversation/28363275#notice-28412289Apr 13 20:35
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] #pino looks as nice as #gwibber (even new 2.29.x) but a bit lighter on the memory. I don't understand how these µblog apps waste so much.Apr 13 20:39
schestowitzWhoa. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/04/oscar-winning-video-editor-goes-open.htmlApr 13 20:44
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Aondo would be nice to know under what licenseApr 13 20:52
schestowitzAondo: one step forward, 1/x back, where x is an integerApr 13 20:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A lot of people forget that the news about #VP8 < http://ur1.ca/ux9e > is a "yes" to the FSF's pleaApr 13 20:54
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schestowitzhttp://blogs.zdnet.com/Google/?p=1930Apr 13 20:54
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schestowitzhttp://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/the-trouble-with-linux-it-s-just-not-sexy-679859Apr 13 20:55
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schestowitzQuantify "sexy"Apr 13 20:55
schestowitzZemlin says "Magic"Apr 13 20:55
schestowitzJust hypeApr 13 20:55
schestowitzAnd GUI/artworkApr 13 20:55
schestowitzIOW skinningApr 13 20:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Wow, I can check on the conversation straight from #pino (sold and coming up with upcoming #fedora 13 !)Apr 13 20:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] bbc political genius says election will be won in a few seats, that's what is wrong with the system. do you think anyone else has noticed?Apr 13 20:57
MinceRhttp://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs411.snc3/24834_385380584599_500249599_3702155_2419911_n.jpgApr 13 21:00
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schestowitzcubezzz: http://maxhost.org/blog/2010/01/command-line-applications.htmlApr 13 21:00
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schestowitz:-)Apr 13 21:00
schestowitzMinceR: which one says "do not want"?Apr 13 21:01
MinceRi doApr 13 21:01
schestowitzI see...Apr 13 21:01
schestowitzConsensual for themApr 13 21:02
schestowitzI try to keep religion in the #boycottnovell-social channelApr 13 21:02
schestowitzBTW, there's a #techrights channel tooApr 13 21:03
schestowitzWe need to decide on the apple and microsoft campaign names soonApr 13 21:03
schestowitzMaybe can finalise it now?Apr 13 21:03
satiperahow many bn channels are there?Apr 13 21:03
schestowitz3Apr 13 21:04
schestowitzto separate topicsApr 13 21:04
satiperalive and learnApr 13 21:04
schestowitzsatipera: got names?Apr 13 21:04
schestowitzWe can decide now, it has been 2 daysApr 13 21:04
satiperafor whatApr 13 21:05
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2010/04/11/techrights-org-needs-suggestions/Apr 13 21:05
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schestowitzMost suggestions came from MinceRApr 13 21:05
schestowitzI leave it for you to decideApr 13 21:06
schestowitzTechrights was tessier_'s ideaApr 13 21:06
schestowitzHe runs the server and donates time and resourcesApr 13 21:06
satiperafrom your cryptic question i assume you mean the new sections of the siteApr 13 21:06
schestowitzYeahApr 13 21:06
schestowitzFor APple and MicrosoftApr 13 21:06
schestowitzI an update the front pageApr 13 21:07
schestowitzName the campaign mottosApr 13 21:07
satiperayes i came up with one posted it earlierApr 13 21:07
schestowitzI have free time to do it nowApr 13 21:07
satiperafor appleApr 13 21:07
schestowitzI like "Macintoy" the mostApr 13 21:07
schestowitzIt's kinda cuteApr 13 21:07
schestowitzNot offensiveApr 13 21:07
schestowitzIs Macintoy not OK with anyone?Apr 13 21:09
satiperai appreciate you have given people time about this now but do not rule out change if it happensApr 13 21:09
schestowitz"Microsoft Expose" for Microsoft?Apr 13 21:09
MinceRnote that Macintoy was probably in use for "macintosh" already, but it doesn't really rule it out :)Apr 13 21:10
schestowitzsatipera: OK, I'll do the images without slogansApr 13 21:10
schestowitzSome people suggested images hereApr 13 21:10
schestowitzThe slogan can be changed laterApr 13 21:10
satiperaokApr 13 21:10
MinceRwhy not Monopolysoft?Apr 13 21:10
schestowitzI'll start with front pageApr 13 21:10
schestowitzMinceR: would workApr 13 21:10
schestowitzMonopolysoft seems like jose_x's wordApr 13 21:11
schestowitzHe might like itApr 13 21:11
schestowitzOK, let's play with GIMP.....Apr 13 21:11
MinceRbut the gimp's sleeping.Apr 13 21:12
satiperaha haApr 13 21:12
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satiperathe old ones are the bestApr 13 21:12
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schestowitzBase pic: http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Technology/images/1984-movie-big-brother.jpgApr 13 21:13
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satiperaniceApr 13 21:13
schestowitzWhat for Microsoft though?Apr 13 21:13
schestowitzMonopoly somethingApr 13 21:14
MinceRdunnoApr 13 21:14
MinceRthe monopoly logo could be trademark infringementApr 13 21:14
schestowitzNeeds to fit front page themeApr 13 21:14
schestowitzHow about something that evokes fear?Apr 13 21:14
schestowitzMonopoly(R) as a game is no goodApr 13 21:14
schestowitzApple=lack of controlApr 13 21:15
schestowitzIngSocApr 13 21:15
satiperafear is bad and not useful long termApr 13 21:15
MinceRsomething about planned economy, perhapsApr 13 21:15
MinceRsoviet themesApr 13 21:15
schestowitzRed army?Apr 13 21:15
satiperaaccurate is better long termApr 13 21:15
satiperano soviert themesApr 13 21:15
schestowitzsatipera: I'll use humour thereApr 13 21:15
schestowitzsatipera: I know, no SovietApr 13 21:15
satiperathat is cheap using soviet as fearApr 13 21:16
schestowitzI was semi-kiddingApr 13 21:16
schestowitz1984 is fictionalApr 13 21:16
schestowitzHow abut piates?Apr 13 21:16
schestowitzHow abut pirates?Apr 13 21:16
MinceRpirates are cool nowApr 13 21:16
satiperanot fictional just a little lateApr 13 21:16
schestowitzDamn.Apr 13 21:16
MinceRplus they aren't a centralized form of controlApr 13 21:16
schestowitzI know!Apr 13 21:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jneves: Encontro de Ubuntu em Lisboa, 15 de Abril, 18h30 - http://is.gd/brmnY (É favor divulgar!)Apr 13 21:17
schestowitzLet's use a Glickman photoApr 13 21:17
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MinceRwho's that?Apr 13 21:17
schestowitzPut Ballmer's torso under himApr 13 21:17
schestowitzMinceR: the MAFIAA DonApr 13 21:17
schestowitzHe's quitting thoughApr 13 21:17
schestowitzDan GlickmanApr 13 21:17
schestowitzHow about a bulldog?Apr 13 21:18
MinceRnot sureApr 13 21:18
schestowitzIt goes along the "Monopolysoft" name, so won't workApr 13 21:18
MinceRi find dogs repugnant enough, but not everyone doesApr 13 21:18
satiperaI think of it as a heading to private eye eventually it will be loved, does not have to be high impact from the startApr 13 21:18
schestowitzHow about...Apr 13 21:19
schestowitzGates deposition?Apr 13 21:19
schestowitzThat would work, I thinkApr 13 21:19
schestowitzShowing the offenders where they belongApr 13 21:19
MinceRnot sure what that isApr 13 21:20
satiperaover most headsApr 13 21:20
schestowitzhttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2003/2221039795_59f061868a_o.jpgApr 13 21:20
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satiperait has to strike a chord  if you are going for immedeiateApr 13 21:20
MinceRoh, niceApr 13 21:21
schestowitzMinceR: good enough?Apr 13 21:21
satiperahard to doApr 13 21:21
MinceRthe SweatyB image also popped up in my mind but this is a lot betterApr 13 21:21
schestowitzLike this? http://antitrust.slated.org/Apr 13 21:21
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MinceRwe may still want to look for ideas thoughApr 13 21:21
satiperayesApr 13 21:21
MinceRlike that one, yesApr 13 21:21
MinceRi mean that's sort of what i was thinking about earlierApr 13 21:22
satiperado something now and se what developsApr 13 21:22
satiperanothing is finalApr 13 21:22
MinceR:)Apr 13 21:22
schestowitzhttp://media1.break.com/dnet/media/content/gatessleep.jpgApr 13 21:22
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schestowitzI can put the word "found guilty"Apr 13 21:23
schestowitzAt the topApr 13 21:23
schestowitzSound all right?Apr 13 21:23
schestowitz*soundsApr 13 21:23
MinceRnot sure if the logo should have text other than the name in itApr 13 21:23
MinceRunless you want "Found Guilty" to be the motto/slogan of that campaignApr 13 21:24
schestowitzOh, I see..Apr 13 21:24
schestowitzHow aboutApr 13 21:24
schestowitz"Guilty Monopolysoft"Apr 13 21:24
schestowitzAs campaign nameApr 13 21:24
schestowitzThe first word confirms the lattersApr 13 21:24
schestowitzlatterApr 13 21:24
schestowitzAnd indicates it carried on using the blog posts we haveApr 13 21:24
schestowitzThen.Apr 13 21:25
satiperaroy you are barking up a short term treeApr 13 21:25
schestowitzI can put just "guilty" in the pictureApr 13 21:25
schestowitzsatipera: how so?Apr 13 21:25
schestowitzMaybe just "Guilty Monopoly"?Apr 13 21:25
schestowitzMaybe just "Guilty Monopolist"?Apr 13 21:25
schestowitzThat why we're decidingApr 13 21:25
schestowitz*that'sApr 13 21:25
satiperayou need to look at why "brands" are trusted Apr 13 21:25
schestowitz"Boycott Novell" will become oneApr 13 21:26
satiperait is not by pandering to their coreApr 13 21:26
schestowitzWhat slogan do you suggest?Apr 13 21:26
satiperayou need to be inclusiveApr 13 21:26
schestowitzAnd I think it's well established among visitors that Microsoft is malevolentApr 13 21:26
satiperafor microsoft only?Apr 13 21:26
schestowitzIt's not the same with NestleApr 13 21:27
schestowitzMicrosoft already has a bad imageApr 13 21:27
schestowitzsatipera: oh, yeah ! :-)Apr 13 21:27
satiperayes but only to people like usApr 13 21:27
schestowitzsatipera: this is a Microsoft-only section/bannerApr 13 21:27
schestowitzOne for Apple, another for NovellApr 13 21:27
schestowitzSo the question is, how do we present Microsoft?Apr 13 21:28
satiperawellApr 13 21:28
schestowitz"Guilty Perpetually"?Apr 13 21:28
schestowitzMaybe without "Microsoft" (implicit)Apr 13 21:28
schestowitzOr "Monopolists' Guilt"Apr 13 21:28
schestowitzToo strong..Apr 13 21:28
MinceRi think the one-word version was more powerfulApr 13 21:29
satiperaan important section like this needs to keep the faithfull onboard and not upset the people who have invested heavilly in msApr 13 21:29
satiperahaving a go at people with heavy emotional investment makes an enemyApr 13 21:29
MinceRhow can content like this be presented without making m$ fanboys enemies?Apr 13 21:30
schestowitzSo what would be preferably?Apr 13 21:30
satiperait is not about us feeling good it as about it being usefulApr 13 21:30
MinceRor even m$ shops that have merely bought into m$ a lotApr 13 21:30
schestowitzIs Monopolysoft rude?Apr 13 21:31
schestowitzMany Microsoft shops want outApr 13 21:31
MinceRit could turn off m$-friendly people, i guessApr 13 21:31
schestowitzThat's why they may look for Microsoft critiqueApr 13 21:31
schestowitzMinceR: dyed-in-the-wool onesApr 13 21:31
MinceRif you wanted to go the "politically correct" route then the campaign titles might not be a good ideaApr 13 21:31
satiperayes Apr 13 21:31
satiperathey mostly areApr 13 21:31
MinceR(just "Microsoft", "Novell" and "Apple" sections)Apr 13 21:32
satiperathey do not want to be told they are foolsApr 13 21:32
MinceRthen again, i'm not sure where do the funny pictures in the posts fit in thisApr 13 21:32
schestowitzWhat about "Macintoy"?Apr 13 21:32
MinceRbut really, i don't know what's the best choiceApr 13 21:32
satiperamy advice is talk to a marketing devilApr 13 21:32
MinceRMacintoy seems to be the same category as MonopolysoftApr 13 21:32
MinceRi second that adviceApr 13 21:33
schestowitzTechrights is gentle enoughApr 13 21:33
schestowitzBut we write about Microsoft's behaviourApr 13 21:33
MinceRit might even be that there are multiple audiences to target and different things might work for themApr 13 21:33
schestowitzHow about "Monopoly Watch"?Apr 13 21:34
schestowitzANd Macintoy Monitor?Apr 13 21:34
MinceRthe first one is not m$-specificApr 13 21:34
schestowitzBoycott Novell stays as is for obvious reasonsApr 13 21:34
MinceRthe second would still turn off the same groups, imoApr 13 21:34
MinceRbut really, ask a marketing devil :>Apr 13 21:34
schestowitzI don't know anyApr 13 21:35
schestowitzWon't talk to them unless there're hereApr 13 21:35
schestowitz*theyApr 13 21:35
schestowitzOK, let's just get it doneApr 13 21:35
MinceRon the multiple audiences issue: the funny/outspoken image works better for people like me, while a different image would work for m$ shops wanting out, i guessApr 13 21:35
schestowitzIt's not a huge dealApr 13 21:35
satiperait sounds boring but inside apple is better than macintoyApr 13 21:35
MinceRbut if they want out already, i'm not sure how we're helpingApr 13 21:36
schestowitzsatipera: agreedApr 13 21:36
schestowitzAnd "Microsoft Watcher"?Apr 13 21:36
schestowitz"Microsoft Watch" is taken alreadyApr 13 21:36
schestowitzOr Microsoft MonitorApr 13 21:36
schestowitzThat would be betterApr 13 21:36
MinceRperhaps an interesting consideration would be how the site works if social tagging/news sites reference your articlesApr 13 21:36
schestowitzMinceR: that's part of itApr 13 21:37
satiperasomething like that yes it is neutralApr 13 21:37
schestowitzI think along the lines of "Defective by design"Apr 13 21:37
MinceRyes, "Microsoft Monitor" seems to be good for that purposeApr 13 21:37
schestowitzSo needs to be uniqueApr 13 21:37
schestowitzMinceR: goodApr 13 21:37
schestowitzANd I'll use the BillG imageApr 13 21:37
schestowitzWithout a captionApr 13 21:37
schestowitzThe caption might show hostilityApr 13 21:37
schestowitzInside Apple I'd make a polite pictureApr 13 21:38
MinceRthe alliteration is good, imoApr 13 21:38
schestowitzOH, so Inside Apple and Microsoft Monitor?Apr 13 21:38
MinceRi'm looking for an A-word for the Apple partApr 13 21:38
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satiperayes, make yourself as small a target as possible whilst being as effective as possibleApr 13 21:38
schestowitz"Boycott Novell" was not my naming ideaApr 13 21:38
schestowitzBut it staysApr 13 21:38
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en-GB&q=%22boycott+novell%22&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8Apr 13 21:39
TechrightsBotTitle: "boycott novell" - Google Search .::. Size~: 30.71 KBApr 13 21:39
schestowitz33k resultsApr 13 21:39
MinceRApple Admonisher?Apr 13 21:39
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c2coff=1&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&q=%22boycottnovell%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=Apr 13 21:39
TechrightsBotTitle: "boycottnovell" - Google Search .::. Size~: 29.25 KBApr 13 21:39
schestowitz26k resultsApr 13 21:39
MinceR"someone who gives a warning so that a mistake can be avoided"Apr 13 21:39
schestowitzsatipera: Apple Admonisher?Apr 13 21:39
satiperanoApr 13 21:39
schestowitzInsider?Apr 13 21:39
schestowitz*InsideApr 13 21:40
satiperaroy sorry to say but it is rubbishApr 13 21:40
schestowitzInsider is takenApr 13 21:40
schestowitzApple Insider is a siteApr 13 21:40
satiperais inside apple?Apr 13 21:40
schestowitzOK, so Apple Insider (AI) and Microsoft Monitor (MM)Apr 13 21:40
schestowitzAlong with BNApr 13 21:40
schestowitzTwo-word namesApr 13 21:40
schestowitzMicrosoft has the most material on itApr 13 21:40
schestowitzApple just ~400Apr 13 21:40
satiperainside apple invites people too lookApr 13 21:41
MinceRApple Inside would likely be confused with Apple InsiderApr 13 21:41
MinceRIA would be better in that regardApr 13 21:41
satiperayou can change laterApr 13 21:41
schestowitzOopsApr 13 21:41
schestowitzI slippedApr 13 21:41
schestowitz"Apple Insider (AI)" <- FreudianApr 13 21:41
schestowitzOKApr 13 21:42
schestowitzI'll do the imagesApr 13 21:42
satiperaroy did you re3ad what mincer saidApr 13 21:42
schestowitzyahApr 13 21:43
schestowitzyeahApr 13 21:43
schestowitzI made an errorApr 13 21:43
schestowitzMeant "Inside Apple"Apr 13 21:43
satiperaok sorry i thought you misunderstood what he saidApr 13 21:43
*MinceR wonders if a worm would be a good logo for Inside Apple or if that's over the line already :)Apr 13 21:43
satiperanow that is what i have been thinking aboutApr 13 21:44
satiperaworm should be outApr 13 21:44
satiperalogo should point to investigation somehowApr 13 21:45
satiperaneutral with a hint of foss should be the rule of thumbApr 13 21:46
MinceRan apple with a slice cut out with a magnifying glass over it? or is that too obvious? :>Apr 13 21:46
satiperamaybe notApr 13 21:47
satiperamagnyfying glasses are understood in many culturesApr 13 21:47
satiperait is honestApr 13 21:47
MinceRor an apple with a bite missing, showing a sickly black inside :>Apr 13 21:50
satiperathe apple needs toi be cut cleanly down the middlwApr 13 21:51
satiperait is a positive statementApr 13 21:51
satiperaincisive, boldApr 13 21:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Looking for help for an email solution for my bright 6 year old daughter http://bit.ly/9jIFXV suggestions welcome!Apr 13 21:54
TechrightsBotTitle: Safe Email Addresses For Kids | popey.com blog .::. Size~: 27.4 KBApr 13 21:54
schestowitzok, images doneApr 13 21:54
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satiperalink?Apr 13 21:57
satiperalast gets me to googleApr 13 21:58
satiperaoh :)Apr 13 21:58
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schestowitztessier_: urgent...Apr 13 22:06
tessier_?Apr 13 22:06
schestowitzWe get page dupesApr 13 22:06
schestowitz1000 of them nowApr 13 22:06
tessier_What do you mean?Apr 13 22:06
schestowitzWe need to merge themApr 13 22:06
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/search?q=site:techrights.org+&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8&hl=en-GBApr 13 22:06
TechrightsBotTitle: site:techrights.org - Google Search .::. Size~: 24.82 KBApr 13 22:06
schestowitzGoogle will penalise the sites as the # of duplicate pages growApr 13 22:07
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tessier_Ah. Ok. Let me see if I can get that 301 thing finished up right now...Apr 13 22:07
schestowitzThis is why I was hoping to redirect asap, then I can mark in google that the domain shiftedApr 13 22:07
schestowitztessier_: thanksApr 13 22:07
schestowitzSome days ago I checked the indexed pages for techrights and it was only 20, then 80..Apr 13 22:08
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schestowitzsatipera, MinceR: work in progress: http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php/Main_PageApr 13 22:17
TechrightsBotTitle: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 28.85 KBApr 13 22:17
schestowitzI need to structure it better, it's going to be a good resource when it's nearly done :-)Apr 13 22:18
schestowitztessier_: boycottnovell.com is ranked the same as Groklaw for traffic :-)Apr 13 22:18
tessier_coolApr 13 22:18
MinceRindeedApr 13 22:19
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tessier_schestowitz: <p>The document has moved <a href="http://techrights.org//">here</a>.</p>Apr 13 22:24
TechrightsBotTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBApr 13 22:24
tessier_wheeeApr 13 22:24
tessier_It worksApr 13 22:24
tessier_Finally.Apr 13 22:24
schestowitz:-)Apr 13 22:24
schestowitz!!Apr 13 22:24
schestowitzSuper!!Apr 13 22:25
schestowitztessier_: http://boycottlinspire.com/ and http://boycottxandros.com/ can be set up like techrights.comApr 13 22:25
TechrightsBotTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBApr 13 22:25
TechrightsBotTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBApr 13 22:25
tessier_I've got a couple of domains I need to do that for myself. I didn't realize having the same content accessible by two domains was killing my search engine rankings.Apr 13 22:25
schestowitzThey give default apche pageApr 13 22:25
tessier_okApr 13 22:25
schestowitztessier_: thanks SOO SOO much. Let's see how it worksApr 13 22:25
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schestowitzroy@roy:~$ wget http://techrights.comApr 13 22:26
TechrightsBotTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBApr 13 22:26
schestowitz--2010-04-13 22:26:20--  http://techrights.com/Apr 13 22:26
TechrightsBotTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBApr 13 22:26
schestowitzResolving techrights.com... 216.105.40.123Apr 13 22:26
schestowitzConnecting to techrights.com|216.105.40.123|:80... connected.Apr 13 22:26
schestowitzHTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved PermanentlyApr 13 22:26
schestowitzW00t!Apr 13 22:26
schestowitz301Apr 13 22:26
schestowitzLocation: http://techrights.org// [following]Apr 13 22:26
TechrightsBotTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBApr 13 22:26
schestowitz--2010-04-13 22:26:20--  http://techrights.org//Apr 13 22:26
TechrightsBotTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBApr 13 22:26
schestowitzResolving techrights.org... 216.105.40.123Apr 13 22:26
schestowitzReusing existing connection to techrights.com:80.Apr 13 22:26
schestowitzHTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved PermanentlyApr 13 22:26
schestowitzLocation: http://techrights.org/ [following]Apr 13 22:27
TechrightsBotTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBApr 13 22:27
schestowitz--2010-04-13 22:26:21--  http://techrights.org/Apr 13 22:27
TechrightsBotTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBApr 13 22:27
schestowitzIt does a double redirect?Apr 13 22:27
schestowitz/ -> / ?Apr 13 22:27
schestowitz // -> / ?Apr 13 22:27
schestowitzI'll tell Google nowApr 13 22:27
tessier_boycottxandros and linspire both workApr 13 22:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Top cardinal, Tarcisio Bertone, blames paedophile crisis on homosexuals - They'll simply never "get it" http://tinyurl.com/y94v7rwApr 13 22:28
TechrightsBotTitle:  Top cardinal, Tarcisio Bertone, blames paedophile crisis on homosexuals -Times Online  .::. Size~: 104.55 KBApr 13 22:28
MinceRgnApr 13 22:28
schestowitzTechrightsBot: thanks. So cool!Apr 13 22:28
schestowitz* tessier_Apr 13 22:29
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Ubuntu and Iron Maiden. Bliss. :-)Apr 13 22:36
schestowitztessier_: just one minor thingApr 13 22:38
schestowitzIt puts two slashes after the domain name in almost all cases and domainsApr 13 22:38
tessier_Yes?Apr 13 22:38
schestowitzAs in:Apr 13 22:38
schestowitzroy@roy:~$ wget http://boycottnovell.com/company-blacklist/Apr 13 22:38
TechrightsBotTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBApr 13 22:38
schestowitz--2010-04-13 22:37:31--  http://boycottnovell.com/company-blacklist/Apr 13 22:38
TechrightsBotTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBApr 13 22:38
schestowitzResolving boycottnovell.com... 216.105.40.123Apr 13 22:38
schestowitzConnecting to boycottnovell.com|216.105.40.123|:80... connected.Apr 13 22:38
schestowitzHTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved PermanentlyApr 13 22:38
schestowitzLocation: http://techrights.org//company-blacklist/ [following]Apr 13 22:38
TechrightsBotTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBApr 13 22:38
schestowitz"//"|Apr 13 22:38
tessier_ahApr 13 22:38
tessier_okApr 13 22:38
tessier_Just a secApr 13 22:38
schestowitzThanks, I thought maybe it was a hack that's necessaryApr 13 22:38
tessier_Nope. Shouldn't be.Apr 13 22:39
tessier_Try nowApr 13 22:39
schestowitzWorks now :-)Apr 13 22:39
tessier_coolApr 13 22:39
tessier_And hopefully google will get straightened out soon and my delay on this won't cost us too much in pagerank.Apr 13 22:40
*tessier_ is fixing his personal domains also now that he knows the magic incantation Apr 13 22:40
tessier_For years I have had ultraviolet.org and tracyreed.org hosting the same content.Apr 13 22:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Done 1 ton housework. @arkadyrose has a cold, F has been put out but v happy to see dad. My back hates me. Buh.Apr 13 22:41
schestowitztessier_: duplicate?Apr 13 22:41
tessier_Yep. Same thing we just had with boycottnovell. Apr 13 22:41
schestowitzEFF does the .com to .org the way you just didApr 13 22:41
tessier_Two domains pointing at the exact same content.Apr 13 22:41
schestowitzGoogle penalises that (having multiple pages)Apr 13 22:42
tessier_How could you tell how much google had indexed?Apr 13 22:42
tessier_I need to learn a lot more about google. I have been studying their backend infrastructure stuff but not how to actually buy adwords or do SEO etc.Apr 13 22:42
tessier_I know some basics of SEO but didn't know about penalizing having multiple pagesApr 13 22:42
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schestowitzCould images too be redirected? http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/800px-Flag_of_Kyrgyzstan.svg_.pngApr 13 22:44
TechrightsBotTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBApr 13 22:44
tessier_They should be redirected already.Apr 13 22:44
schestowitzI mean, maybe it's an extension of the ruleApr 13 22:44
schestowitztessier_: maybe there's caching somewhereApr 13 22:45
schestowitzI think it might be cachedApr 13 22:45
tessier_boycottnovell.com/(.*) is mapped to techrights.org/$1Apr 13 22:45
tessier_I have cleared the varnish cache on my endApr 13 22:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @tuxbrain: Qi Hardware Community News April 12th http://tinyurl.com/y3lvnblApr 13 22:46
TechrightsBotTitle: Qi Hardware Community News April 12th | www.tuxbrain.com .::. Size~: 29.71 KBApr 13 22:46
tessier_www.domain.com being the same as domain.com wouldn't be penalized would it?Apr 13 22:46
schestowitzYeah, cacheApr 13 22:46
schestowitzI checked with older imagesApr 13 22:46
schestowitzThey get redirectedApr 13 22:46
schestowitzI've had this list of things to check we don't mess up :-)Apr 13 22:46
schestowitzI can't get into the admin side yetApr 13 22:47
schestowitzI think it's because WordPress has this field which has a domain set as http://boycottnovell.comApr 13 22:48
TechrightsBotTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBApr 13 22:48
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] For a "FOSS" and patents blog, it seems like the only axe Florian Müller's sharpening is on account of IBM.Apr 13 22:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] When sat in the office/den/pit, on a scale of 1 (good) to 10 (bad) how bad is it to cut ones toe-nails with a handy pair of pliers?Apr 13 22:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Yes, IBM is evil with #swpat but they're hardly the most aggressive against Free Software (Microsoft, anyone?)Apr 13 22:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] @popey: about ten times worse than tweeting about it...Apr 13 22:52
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] ♻ @cmdln: Google to Open the Source of VP-8 http://ur1.ca/uxk5 !tclpApr 13 22:53
TechrightsBotTitle: Google to Open the Source of VP-8  The Command Line .::. Size~: 46.53 KBApr 13 22:53
schestowitztessier_: to inform google of the change we might need to temporarily disable to redirection (so that Google can see both exist)Apr 13 22:53
tessier_ok, let me know if/when you want to do that. I can change one line in the proxy to make it happen.Apr 13 22:54
schestowitz"We couldn't verify www.boycottnovell.com. To submit a change of address, www.boycottnovell.com must be verified using the same method as boycottnovell.com. Add www.boycottnovell.com to your account and verify ownership, then try again."Apr 13 22:54
Diablo-D3lolfailApr 13 22:54
schestowitzI just need to verify the .www one, than retryApr 13 22:54
schestowitzDiablo-D3: no, simply fixApr 13 22:55
schestowitz*simpleApr 13 22:55
schestowitztessier_: can do this now, then I'll do what's needed with GoogleApr 13 22:55
Diablo-D3yeah, but you've already verified boycotnovell.com, the root for www.boycottnovell.comApr 13 22:55
schestowitzYes, I need to do www tooApr 13 22:55
schestowitzThat's what it saysApr 13 22:56
Diablo-D3whos telling you this, anyhow?Apr 13 22:56
Diablo-D3because I dont bother using my www. subdomainsApr 13 22:57
schestowitzGoogle tool for site moveApr 13 22:57
Diablo-D3I always automatically redirectApr 13 22:57
schestowitzMaybe it just needs the redirect suspended temporarily to see that two sites existApr 13 22:57
Diablo-D3schestowitz: btwApr 13 22:57
schestowitzRight now it sees one site redirecting to seldApr 13 22:57
schestowitz*selfApr 13 22:57
Diablo-D3the site move tool is worthlessApr 13 22:57
Diablo-D3just use a http permanent redirect on the bn domainApr 13 22:58
Diablo-D3next time google indexes bn, it'll automatically pick it upApr 13 22:58
schestowitzIt's better to tell it to refresh the indexApr 13 22:58
schestowitzIt requires it based on the instructionsApr 13 22:58
Diablo-D3Not at all.Apr 13 22:59
schestowitztessier_ is going to just temporarily stop the redirection, then I'll get it done.Apr 13 22:59
schestowitzI can then also update WordPress to have the new domain in the databaseApr 13 23:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] wembley is in the news again never mind the pitch what were the architects thinkingApr 13 23:01
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] I need your comment on http://schoolos.org , #schoolos #monofree #foss #distro #remix {what more application/commands you need in DVD}Apr 13 23:06
TechrightsBotTitle: School OS .::. Size~: 20.73 KBApr 13 23:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Copying all data off my drobo because I want to take it apart and replace the insanely noisy fan.Apr 13 23:09
tessier_ok, I'll stop redirect nowApr 13 23:09
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schestowitzThanksApr 13 23:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] wikileaks savaged by gates (no not that one) http://is.gd/bruiOApr 13 23:13
TechrightsBotTitle: Gates assails Internet group over attack video| Reuters .::. Size~: 48.65 KBApr 13 23:13
tessier_ok, redirect is offApr 13 23:14
DaemonFCI hate getting things shipped hereApr 13 23:14
DaemonFCbunch of thieves and criminals that leave in this house or next doorApr 13 23:14
DaemonFCeveryone but me has some kind of conviction record for something or other I thinkApr 13 23:15
DaemonFC*liveApr 13 23:15
satiperabloody hell fc are you still going on about your new bikeApr 13 23:15
DaemonFCno, other thingsApr 13 23:15
satiperayayApr 13 23:15
DaemonFCdoesn't mean I like thieves and criminalsApr 13 23:16
DaemonFCwhy can't my landlord just move someone in that's fucking normal!?Apr 13 23:16
satiperaits all a matter of lawApr 13 23:16
DaemonFCI don't invite child molesting relatives from Michigan to live with me (lady downstairs)Apr 13 23:16
satiperai should hope notApr 13 23:17
DaemonFCI don't attract psychopaths and then toss them out and have them break my neighbor's things while they are stalking me (lady the next door over)Apr 13 23:17
DaemonFCthen there's the idiot next door who is in his 30s and his mom is paying his mortgage while his house is rotting and falling down around himApr 13 23:18
DaemonFCand shingles off the roof are flying into my yardApr 13 23:18
DaemonFCand he has junk cars with tall grass around them sitting in the backyardApr 13 23:19
satiperaso what is the answer fcApr 13 23:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NewsTechnica: Microsoft releases world's dumbest smartphone http://newstechnica.com/?p=1972Apr 13 23:20
TechrightsBotTitle: Microsoft releases worlds dumbest smartphone | NewsTechnica .::. Size~: 37.28 KBApr 13 23:20
DaemonFCthen there's the fat man next door on the other side that has to be in his 50s or 60s who does a striptease in front of the open window every nightApr 13 23:20
DaemonFCto the tune of the Macarena I thinkApr 13 23:20
satiperaif you do not like living there is a reason why you muistApr 13 23:21
DaemonFCsatipera: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN62PAKoBfEApr 13 23:21
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- Macarena - Los del Rio .::. Size~: 71.33 KBApr 13 23:21
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satiperaand from that video you have problemsApr 13 23:23
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlzwuFkn88UApr 13 23:24
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- Macarena .::. Size~: 75.95 KBApr 13 23:24
DaemonFClolApr 13 23:24
cubezzz"The Microsoft Destroyers" is a good name :)Apr 13 23:24
satiperayour last video will result in interest from child protection servicesApr 13 23:25
tessier_The Macarena?Apr 13 23:26
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFzyYYZsxGc&feature=relatedApr 13 23:26
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- Ketchup song original and full .::. Size~: 84.25 KBApr 13 23:26
DaemonFCon the radio all the time when I was in MexicoApr 13 23:27
DaemonFC:PApr 13 23:27
DaemonFCyes, I've been to MexicoApr 13 23:28
DaemonFCback in 2002Apr 13 23:28
*tessier_ goes to TJ frequentlyApr 13 23:28
tessier_Was there last month.Apr 13 23:28
DaemonFCmy favorite bit was how Walmart operates thereApr 13 23:29
DaemonFCno bottles of liquor on the shelf because a good bottle costs more than those people make in a weekApr 13 23:29
DaemonFCso you take a card with the picture to the manager and he gets it out of a security room for youApr 13 23:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] I was about to install this addon until I noticed they were violating the licence, infringing the copyright http://tinyurl.com/y5axczyApr 13 23:30
satiperafc no we have had electric bike pleqase no more walmartApr 13 23:30
TechrightsBotTitle: Pastebin.com Quick Paster :: Add-ons for Firefox .::. Size~: 45.56 KBApr 13 23:30
tessier_Just like buying a hard drive at FrysApr 13 23:30
DaemonFCit would probably be too hot to operate one in Mexicali, satiperaApr 13 23:30
DaemonFCit was over 100 degrees in the shade when I was there Apr 13 23:31
satiperaha haApr 13 23:31
tessier_Electric bikes would work just fine in Mexicali.Apr 13 23:31
tessier_Just as hot in Vietnam and even more humid.Apr 13 23:31
tessier_Although my bike was gas not electric I saw people who had electrics.Apr 13 23:31
DaemonFCyou didn't sweat because it evaporates before it beads upApr 13 23:31
DaemonFCyou have to keep drinking fluids even though it seems like you're not sweatingApr 13 23:31
*WireWulf-away is now known as WireWulfApr 13 23:31
tessier_In Saigon you sweat buckets. :(Apr 13 23:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Will be good news! ♺ @grote: Award winning Lightworks Video Editor will be liberated and become #FreeSoftware http://is.gd/brvlz #fsfeApr 13 23:32
TechrightsBotTitle: [Phoronix] Lightworks Video Editor Going Open-Source .::. Size~: 16.91 KBApr 13 23:32
schestowitzI'll use this as a change to verify ownership of the other domains tooApr 13 23:32
DaemonFCtessier_: Don't you mean Ho Chi Minh City? :)Apr 13 23:32
tessier_DaemonFC: NopeApr 13 23:32
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tessier_District 1 at least is still called SaigonApr 13 23:32
DaemonFCofficially?Apr 13 23:32
tessier_It's all over the place.Apr 13 23:33
tessier_You can't send mail there but everyone calls it that.Apr 13 23:33
Diablo-D3btw, yesApr 13 23:33
Diablo-D3unofficially its still saigonApr 13 23:33
schestowitztessier_: do the boycott xandros/linpire domain get any hits on them? You said you could check count... I need to know whether they are worth renewingApr 13 23:33
DaemonFCschestowitz was also incorrect when he said I had never left this continent Apr 13 23:34
tessier_schestowitz: Umm...I compiled some stats on that a couple weeks ago but don't have them now. I just started logging that again. Ask me again tomorrow and I'll tell you how many hits they each got.Apr 13 23:34
DaemonFCI've been to Finland once :PApr 13 23:34
DaemonFCin 1997Apr 13 23:34
DaemonFCso nyaah!Apr 13 23:34
tessier_Diablo-D3: You been there?Apr 13 23:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] The funny thing is...they're all waiting for teh Rapture mainly so they can turn around to we infidels and say HAHA I TOLD YOU SO!Apr 13 23:36
Diablo-D3tessier_: noApr 13 23:36
Diablo-D3but I know everything.Apr 13 23:36
Diablo-D3EVERYTHING.Apr 13 23:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] business opportunity for the quick kyrgistan is in the middle of a civil warApr 13 23:37
Diablo-D3wikipedia aspires to be as awesome as I amApr 13 23:37
satiperarapture is important to me i love blondies back catalogue :)Apr 13 23:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @edwardvirtually @IsraelNewsNow: ynetnews.com: #Obama: #Israel should sign #NPT http://bit.ly/de18Em //how anti-Semitic of him! Not. #warApr 13 23:39
TechrightsBotTitle: Obama: Israel should sign NPT - Israel News, Ynetnews .::. Size~: 33.13 KBApr 13 23:39
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CmhqoB1lNEApr 13 23:39
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DaemonFCB-)Apr 13 23:39
satiperapeople do really want change in the uk hung parliament for progressApr 13 23:40
satiperaits late cant be bothered to switch to twitterApr 13 23:41
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFNk_SwLsLw&feature=relatedApr 13 23:43
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DaemonFClolApr 13 23:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Whitney Houston apparently went down a storm tonight. She'll be lampooned for this for a long time to come lolApr 13 23:44
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schestowitzwww.boycottnovell.com has been moved to techrights.orgApr 13 23:47
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DaemonFCsatipera: But now that you mention The Beast.......Apr 13 23:48
DaemonFCit has shipped B-)Apr 13 23:48
DaemonFCand so has the secondary battery B-)Apr 13 23:48
DaemonFCmuahahahahaaaaaaaa!!!!Apr 13 23:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @qu1j0t3 nice tweet about israel and nptApr 13 23:49
DaemonFCand I asked the local police what they thought of the motorized bicycle statute and what the fines for breaking it wereApr 13 23:49
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DaemonFChis words "We don't give a shit...we're not going to fine you unless you do something really stupid with it and hurt someone" lolApr 13 23:50
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