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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Apple is Part of the Proprietary Thought Police http://ur1.ca/vmsp #censorship #1984 #amazon #suppressionApr 18 00:19
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schestowitzOmar87: good articleApr 18 00:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @omar_s_hafez "Free Software is not about deception, it's about caring for others". #FOSS #proprietary #privacy #anonymityApr 18 00:26
schestowitz[23:25] <_goblin> Microsoft faithful - No religious undertones, readers of my blog know (through repeated reference) that the word "faithful" is used to relay how no matter what misfortunate befalls Microsoft they still "stick by their great products" to the bitter end...faithful to the Microsoft no have "faith" in the spirit of religion.Apr 18 00:26
schestowitzFaith means belief without evidence, typicallyApr 18 00:27
schestowitzThat's how Microsoft followers behaveApr 18 00:27
schestowitzSome worship IBM, Groklaw for exampleApr 18 00:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @omar_s_hafez "Free Software is not about deception..". #FOSS #proprietary #privacy #anonymity http://bit.ly/crVDUZApr 18 00:28
TechrightsBotTitle: Because Freedom Matters: Free Software is not about deception, Free Software is about caring for others.. .::. Size~: 85.37 KBApr 18 00:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Listening to "All the time in the world" on BBC7....very good! An Arthur C Clarke classic! #bbc7 #radioApr 18 00:29
Ender2070its all about golangApr 18 00:29
schestowitzhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODE1OAApr 18 00:42
TechrightsBotTitle: [Phoronix] Notice More Articles This Week At Phoronix? .::. Size~: 17.59 KBApr 18 00:42
schestowitz"If you would like this increased rate of coverage to continue, there's a few things you can do. First and foremost you can become a Phoronix Premium subscriber that costs as little as $2.50 USD per month and allows you to view Phoronix without any advertisements and also to view entire articles on a single page. Barring that you can use our shopping links when making Internet purchases at stores like Amazon and NewEgg. You can also Apr 18 00:42
schestowitzprovide a tip via PayPal. "Apr 18 00:42
schestowitzEnder2070: Gulag?Apr 18 00:42
Ender2070go languageApr 18 00:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] gbrad: here's one hour less than that and I feel wasted. Gonna read me some Hellblazer till I fall asleep :)Apr 18 00:50
schestowitzI did 18 posts todayApr 18 00:55
schestowitzSome longApr 18 00:55
schestowitzI hold off another one... too much for a SaturdayApr 18 00:55
cubezzzno limits :)Apr 18 00:55
schestowitzI once did 27, I thinkApr 18 00:55
cubezzzswpats is such a messApr 18 00:55
cubezzzI can definitely remember before swpatsApr 18 00:56
schestowitzhttp://news.swpat.org/2010/04/patent-absurdity/Apr 18 00:56
TechrightsBotTitle: End Software Patents: News » Blog Archive  » Patent Absurdity  or Bilski, the movie .::. Size~: 55.39 KBApr 18 00:56
cubezzzI was talking to some young people about Amiga todayApr 18 00:56
cubezzzthey were quite surprisedApr 18 00:57
cubezzzI was telling them about the level of documentation we used to haveApr 18 00:57
cubezzzbut yeah, software patents should have never beenApr 18 01:00
schestowitzhttp://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/04/how-10-popular-linux-distro-sites-looked-when-they-launched/Apr 18 01:00
TechrightsBotTitle: How 10 Popular Linux Distro Sites Looked When they Launched .::. Size~: 38.18 KBApr 18 01:00
cubezzzI wouldn't mind seeing what AMIX looked likeApr 18 01:00
cubezzzthey even managed to lose the source code :-/Apr 18 01:01
cubezzzlol, well I'm still using fc1 :)Apr 18 01:01
cubezzzI can give you tons of pics of thatApr 18 01:01
schestowitzAMIX?Apr 18 01:02
schestowitzAmish unix?Apr 18 01:02
cubezzzUnix for AmigaApr 18 01:02
cubezzznone of that stuff is oldApr 18 01:03
cubezzzcome on, fc1 isn't old :)Apr 18 01:03
cubezzzYggdrasil is oldApr 18 01:05
Ender2070i got an interesting idea on handling trollsApr 18 01:07
Ender2070just start agreeing with themApr 18 01:08
cubezzzthat's lying :)Apr 18 01:08
Ender2070[19:23] <stage2> reading k&r is definetly not a good startApr 18 01:08
Ender2070[19:25] <uriel> ok, you are not even wrong, so no point arguingApr 18 01:09
cubezzzuh, so what are you supposed to start with?Apr 18 01:09
cubezzzbash scripts?Apr 18 01:09
cubezzzschestowitz, interesting historical note:Apr 18 01:11
cubezzz"Unlike typical commercial Unix distributions of the time, Amiga Unix included the source code to the vendor-specific enhancements and platform-dependent device drivers (essentially any part that wasn't owned by AT&T)"Apr 18 01:11
cubezzzAMIX died soon after Linux got startedApr 18 01:12
schestowitzbalzac right on point: http://www.fsdaily.com/Community/Why_Mozilla_Needs_To_Go_Into_Survival_Mode#comment-5901Apr 18 01:13
TechrightsBotTitle: Why Mozilla Needs To Go Into Survival Mode | fsdaily.com - Free Software News .::. Size~: 34.09 KBApr 18 01:13
schestowitzbenJIman: I saw part of your presentation with Pascal todayApr 18 01:14
Ender2070Mozilla needs to adopt webkitApr 18 01:14
schestowitzcubezzz: AMIX was the Amish in a world of Rationalists :-pApr 18 01:15
schestowitzEnder2070: konq still doesn't give it as an option I could seeApr 18 01:16
schestowitzMy 3 days with Konq only were not very pleasant, but at least I triedApr 18 01:16
cubezzzseriously use lynxApr 18 01:16
schestowitzI also installed chromiumApr 18 01:17
cubezzzanything web page worth looking at should support lynxApr 18 01:17
schestowitzOnly to realise it's a gameApr 18 01:17
schestowitzPrimitive one, too..Apr 18 01:17
Ender2070my favorite is chromiumApr 18 01:17
schestowitzNot *that* primitive.. http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/no-gift-for-gab-four-more-console-tools/Apr 18 01:17
TechrightsBotTitle: No gift for gab: Four more console tools « Motho ke motho ka botho .::. Size~: 51.31 KBApr 18 01:17
schestowitzcubezzz: what about web search?Apr 18 01:17
cubezzzfirefox and the like are becoming bloated swiss army knives with way too many attachmentsApr 18 01:18
schestowitzOK, I'm installing lynxApr 18 01:18
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schestowitzI used it brieflyApr 18 01:18
Ender2070lynx sucksApr 18 01:18
schestowitzI could sometims use a quick browser anywayApr 18 01:18
Ender2070links is betterApr 18 01:18
cubezzzI'm sure you don't like looking at flash ads all day :)Apr 18 01:18
cubezzzsure, ok use links thenApr 18 01:18
cubezzzlynx I know I can compile on anythingApr 18 01:19
Ender2070i think you can even use a gui in linksApr 18 01:19
Ender2070modularApr 18 01:19
cubezzzyou have fun with your x86 browser :)Apr 18 01:19
schestowitzGr.......Apr 18 01:20
schestowitzI have to approve all cookies manuallyApr 18 01:20
schestowitzArghhhhhhhhhhh....Apr 18 01:20
cubezzzstocks, weather, google seach, all possible with lynxApr 18 01:20
schestowitzI have like 5 dialogue just to enter GogleApr 18 01:20
cubezzzlynx -accept-all-cookies -assume_charset=UTF-8Apr 18 01:20
schestowitzAhhhhhhhApr 18 01:20
schestowitzFinallyApr 18 01:20
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schestowitztakes agesApr 18 01:20
cubezzzcome on, it's not that bad :)Apr 18 01:21
shreddarSo you guy's finally change the URL. When are you going to change the channel name?Apr 18 01:21
cubezzzmaybe you would prefer elinks?Apr 18 01:21
schestowitzOK, I'll use lynx for a few daysApr 18 01:21
schestowitzIt could be handy for some stuffApr 18 01:22
schestowitzMust be useful when x blows upApr 18 01:22
schestowitzshreddar: go to #techrightsApr 18 01:23
shreddarOh why don't you link to it in the embed webchat app?Apr 18 01:24
schestowitzhttp://www.fsdaily.com/Community/2_hours_left_to_vote_for_free_codecs_in_YouTube_and_only_280_needed_to_be_1_againApr 18 01:24
TechrightsBotTitle: < 2 hours left to vote for free codecs in YouTube and only 280 needed to be #1 again! | fsdaily.com - Free Software News .::. Size~: 31.85 KBApr 18 01:24
schestowitzshreddar: it's not fully occupied yetApr 18 01:25
schestowitzBut we're not vacating Boycott Novell, it's just becoming a sub-projectApr 18 01:25
shreddarI bet people would automatically go to it because of the link.  Beside can't you like put the new channel in the topic or something?Apr 18 01:26
cubezzzyeah we rarely talk about just NovellApr 18 01:26
schestowitzshreddar: at some stage--yesApr 18 01:29
cubezzzthere's talk about porting Firefox to AmigaDOSApr 18 01:29
cubezzzbut whatever :)Apr 18 01:30
shreddarThe reminds me when are they going to finish that qt port?Apr 18 01:30
cubezzzjust doing my part to avoid x86 lock-in :)Apr 18 01:30
shreddarI mean like if it's going to be default on nokia's meego next year should they hurry up or something?Apr 18 01:31
schestowitz /me goApr 18 01:32
Ender2070java is good tooApr 18 01:33
Ender2070stanford put out free lectures and lessonsApr 18 01:33
schestowitz'free' talkApr 18 01:34
schestowitz'content'Apr 18 01:34
Ender2070creative commons beotchApr 18 01:34
schestowitzfree oxygenApr 18 01:34
Ender2070:PApr 18 01:34
cubezzzwater fountains are usually free too :)Apr 18 01:34
shreddaryeah now they are.Apr 18 01:35
shreddarThey used to have restrictions though.Apr 18 01:36
cubezzzi'd do java on the zaurus sureApr 18 01:37
cubezzzthe 240x320 screen is kind of limiting thoughApr 18 01:37
Ender2070i think i've added golang to my list of languages to learnApr 18 01:37
cubezzzhow about APL and Snobol? :)Apr 18 01:38
cubezzzAPL had to be the weirdest thingApr 18 01:39
cubezzzhard to believe but people used to use it in production environmentsApr 18 01:39
schestowitzl8rApr 18 01:42
cubezzzX[⍋X+.≠' ';]Apr 18 01:42
cubezzzwhat's not to like? :-PApr 18 01:43
shreddarI've realised this but mono apps are replacing better apps in non-ubuntu distros. Like sabayon. :(Apr 18 01:45
cubezzzactually better stick with Java :)Apr 18 01:46
cubezzzI predict new distros will continue to spawnApr 18 01:48
cubezzzin fact, I predict retro Linux will appearApr 18 01:48
shreddarF-spot does suck. Totems ok but not enough to keep mono around.Apr 18 01:49
cubezzzthe current situation is just getting more and more bloatedApr 18 01:49
Ender2070i didnt noticeApr 18 01:49
shreddarWe can alway use more distro what are you talking about?Apr 18 01:49
Ender2070i only tried sabayon kdeApr 18 01:49
cubezzza simpler less bloated linux, perhaps based on 2.4Apr 18 01:50
Ender2070boooApr 18 01:50
cubezzzbut the great thing is, if someone wanted to do that, it wouldn't be too hardApr 18 01:51
Ender2070who would want toApr 18 01:51
shreddarYeah I'm using sabayon G with XFCE + Compiz + Cairo-dock2 + Screenlets.Apr 18 01:51
cubezzzeasy, people with older hardwareApr 18 01:52
shreddarGot ride of all XFCE's panels and I'm just using cario-dock.Apr 18 01:52
shreddarI really just wanted to brag about my setup.Apr 18 01:53
cubezzzKDE would run like a clunk if it ran at allApr 18 01:53
cubezzzthat's just one exampleApr 18 01:53
shreddarI wouldn't mind KDE if it had a decent browser that was integrated with it.Apr 18 01:54
Ender2070people with old hardware are harming the environment and shouldn't be catered toApr 18 01:54
shreddarI'm waiting for re-konq.Apr 18 01:54
cubezzzright, it's better to just put all the old computers into a landfill...Apr 18 01:55
Ender2070no get them into hands of someone without a computerApr 18 01:55
shreddarIf you use a older computer you can always use slackware.Apr 18 01:56
Ender2070or archApr 18 01:56
Ender2070or TinyApr 18 01:56
Ender2070or DosApr 18 01:56
cubezzzold monitors, yes, get rid of thoseApr 18 01:57
Ender2070yesApr 18 01:57
cubezzzthey are power wastersApr 18 01:57
Ender2070yupApr 18 01:57
cubezzzshreddar, not sure if slack is an option for 68K or ARMApr 18 01:58
Ender2070mono programs use more cpu cycles, hmmmmApr 18 01:58
cubezzzcorrect me if I'm wrongApr 18 01:58
cubezzzEnder2070, I bet an old amiga on a LCD would use less power than most PCsApr 18 01:58
Ender2070yes but cycles per watt is higherApr 18 01:59
Ender2070if you were to try to crack something you would consume a lot more electricity for the same taskApr 18 02:00
cubezzzcould beApr 18 02:00
cubezzzwhich cpu would be the best re: cycles per watt?Apr 18 02:00
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Ender2070probably the new intel xeon for x86Apr 18 02:00
cubezzzmy zaurus is pretty efficientApr 18 02:01
cubezzzbut I wouldn't use it for serious number crunchingApr 18 02:01
Ender2070yeah it would take a million yearsApr 18 02:01
cubezzzstill the Amiga 1200 has fully documented firmwareApr 18 02:02
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cubezzzI could live with x86 _if_ I could find a motherboard with the same level of documentationApr 18 02:03
shreddarWhat do you use then?Apr 18 02:03
Ender2070cubezzz - golang has an arm compilerApr 18 02:04
cubezzzI'm not in an ideal situationApr 18 02:04
cubezzzI'm using Intel P3 and ARM at the momentApr 18 02:04
cubezzznext pay, I'll probably buy the Amiga 1200Apr 18 02:05
cubezzzthe Amiga will be my fun computerApr 18 02:05
cubezzzparts are available, I can boot from flashApr 18 02:06
cubezzzboot-up times are like 3 secondsApr 18 02:06
Ender2070not badApr 18 02:07
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cubezzzI can still use my LCD monitorApr 18 02:07
cubezzzthere's a lot of plusesApr 18 02:07
cubezzzdenise, agnus, paula, gary chips... all programmable, all documentedApr 18 02:10
shreddarI think techrights should change the blog software because right now it doesn't display right in any browser I've used. (Firefox, Chromium)Apr 18 02:19
shreddarhttp://img696.imageshack.us/img696/1554/screenshot0417201008003.pngApr 18 02:23
TechrightsBotTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/png type .::. Size~: 0 KBApr 18 02:23
shreddarThe main simi-transparent box thing move into the side boxes.Apr 18 02:29
shreddarAlso I think those side boxes should be on the outside of the center story area.Apr 18 02:32
shreddarLike move them opposite side of the promotional logos and stuff.Apr 18 02:34
Ender2070http://learntoprogram.tvApr 18 02:34
TechrightsBotTitle: Learn Actionscript, Learn Flash, Learn Flex, Java, Technical Training and Instruction .::. Size~: 43.43 KBApr 18 02:34
Ender2070sometimes windows centricApr 18 02:34
shreddarAlso the page should scale based on the window/screen size.Apr 18 02:38
shreddarBasically I want it to be a clean as Groklaw but with a better theme.Apr 18 02:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Lefty Guitar Trader Forum is celebrating it's 500th member! Yes, I'm a lefty. http://leftyguitartrader.com/Apr 18 02:52
TechrightsBotTitle: LeftyGuitarTrader.com: Southpaws Only! .::. Size~: 10.36 KBApr 18 02:52
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @puppetmasterd: RT @Roebot:@jonobacon is now sporting a zune. Gifted from @puppetmasterd. Wow.Apr 18 03:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @ebertchicago Rush: volcano #God's response to passage of Health Care #hcr http://j.mp/cidWP4 //his kind mentally inhabits the Dark AgesApr 18 03:09
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Did the earth move for you? http://is.gd/bxzJIApr 18 03:11
TechrightsBotTitle: Extramarital sex fuels earthquakes: Iran cleric- Hindustan Times .::. Size~: 217.21 KBApr 18 03:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Dispose of rubbish with bin. Rorschach would be proud. http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/04/18/2875771.htmApr 18 03:12
TechrightsBotTitle: Man killed in wheelie bin crash - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) .::. Size~: 33.36 KBApr 18 03:12
shreddarHere's a mockup of what the new techrights should look like when fixed:Apr 18 03:18
shreddarhttp://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4969/newtechrights.pngApr 18 03:19
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*amarsh04 uses up to 4 browsers at once (iceweasel, lynx, midori and webkit/GtkLauncherApr 18 03:20
amarsh04)Apr 18 03:20
Ender2070yeah?Apr 18 03:21
Ender2070chromium > the restApr 18 03:22
cubezzzhehApr 18 03:25
cubezzzscrew it, I'm writing my own browserApr 18 03:26
Diablo-D3lolfailApr 18 03:26
shreddarWhy not just fork and exiting one?Apr 18 03:27
Ender2070totally failApr 18 03:27
cubezzzyou guys have no imaginationApr 18 03:27
shreddarI'm paying attention to rekonq. That project show s promis.Apr 18 03:27
Ender2070fork firefox, call it iesuxx and get it in the browser ballotApr 18 03:27
Ender2070lolApr 18 03:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Turns out the brain is basically dual core. http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/04/17/1136232 #smpApr 18 03:28
TechrightsBotTitle: Slashdot | Research Suggests Brain Has a 2-Task Limit for Multitasking .::. Size~: 136.43 KBApr 18 03:28
cubezzzat least we all can agree not to use IEApr 18 03:28
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amarsh04was funny trying to convince a $UTILITY that their web forms were broken with the above browsers. They believed me after I installed and tried using OperaApr 18 03:29
Ender2070they are probably like 'you that 13 year old kid we hired might not know what hes doing'Apr 18 03:30
shreddarThat's called creating a since of urgency. Apr 18 03:30
amarsh04what's worse, said company had a whole ip4 class B block to themselvesApr 18 03:30
Ender2070"our block is bigger, more hits"Apr 18 03:31
amarsh04Telstra apparently has/had 11 class B blocksApr 18 03:31
shreddarNow doesn't the clean mock-up look like a considerable improvement over the current site?Apr 18 03:41
shreddarBefore: http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/1554/screenshot0417201008003.pngApr 18 03:42
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shreddarAfter: http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4969/newtechrights.pngApr 18 03:42
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shreddarIt's just a minor change but I think it make a big difference.Apr 18 03:46
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @nishan_n: Swanalekha is now available as a jQuery plugin. http://github.com/nishan/jquery-swanalekha #smc #malayalamApr 18 03:58
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @houshuang: RT @aleahmad: Good summary of history, current state and future of open education http://nyti.ms/bUGEZp #OER #p2pu #OCW #OLIApr 18 03:59
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @Roebot: Bc its so meta RT @jonobacon: ♺ @puppetmasterd: RT @Roebot:@jonobacon is now sporting a zune. Gifted from @puppetmasterd. Wow.Apr 18 04:01
shreddartwitter gets the most indecipherable posts I've ever seen.Apr 18 04:03
shreddar[Because it's so metabolic Right Turn at Jono Backon recycle at Puppet Masterd: Right Turn at Roebot: at Jono Bacon is now sporting a Zune. Gifted for at Puppet Masterd. Wow.]Apr 18 04:06
jonohahaApr 18 04:07
shreddarNope, still doesn't make sense Apr 18 04:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Cool !! RT @thewikipedian: XKCD's "The Problem with Wikipedia" (http://xkcd.com/214/) "solved" with a Python Script: http://bit.ly/cP5Em5Apr 18 04:09
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @gkjohn: "Google before you Tweet is the new Think before you Speak." http://is.gd/bxjEnApr 18 04:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @Devinder_Sharma: Sonia makes Indian govt see the reality. Hunger line upped at 37.2 %. Plan panel treats this differently from Poverty lApr 18 04:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] A National campaign is building up. RT @thej: @nishaONnisaa I really don't know. I think its going to stop at just the discussion : ( #uidApr 18 04:23
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shreddarI forgot the forward slash.Apr 18 04:34
shreddarI think there is something to be learned from this: http://www.pwnage.ca/?q=node/38Apr 18 04:39
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shreddarRampant Piracy = Respectful Customer ServiceApr 18 04:43
shreddarComparatively Little Piracy = Hostel Customer ServiceApr 18 04:45
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Ender2070a reader :DApr 18 04:52
cubezzzno one talks in techrights though :)Apr 18 05:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Ontario Human Rights ombudsman swamped with cases. Gender/race discrimination still a very ugly reality in #Canada: http://bit.ly/91HaUcApr 18 05:48
TechrightsBotTitle: Complaints overwhelm human rights watchdog - thestar.com .::. Size~: 94.36 KBApr 18 05:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Ontario Human Rights commission swamped with cases. Gender/race discrimination still a very ugly reality in #Canada: http://bit.ly/91HaUcApr 18 05:49
TechrightsBotTitle: Complaints overwhelm human rights watchdog - thestar.com .::. Size~: 94.36 KBApr 18 05:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] wonder how the Lib of Congress is going to deal with fragility of link shorteners and the web in general making tweet context meaningless.Apr 18 05:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@scottEweinberg If you happen to hate me, smile. ... I still have 65 minutes left on THE ENGLISH PATIENT. //your karma is worse than mine!Apr 18 05:56
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'If you enjoy the process&improve&learn evry day,then success or failure is a footnote' @hhavrilesky reviews Party Down http://bit.ly/aBXk1KApr 18 06:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] I should say, the very talented, philosophical and well-travelled @hhavrilesky who you really ought to follow, & read whenever you can. ;-)Apr 18 06:18
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Damn these agitations, mukt.in got cancelled http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/india/2010-April/003298.html :|Apr 18 06:23
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @sebinaj: Malayalam Wikipedia releases selected articles on CD http://thottingal.in/blog/2010/04/17/mlwikioncd/Apr 18 06:51
TechrightsBotTitle: Malayalam Wikipedia releases selected articles on CD  Santhosh Thottingal .::. Size~: 52.03 KBApr 18 06:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Facebook seems really slow today. #terriblethingstosayduringsexApr 18 07:41
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Who do you wish you kissed in college? http://tr.im/W6ww /via GuyKawasaki, shivaranjanApr 18 07:58
TechrightsBotTitle: Who do you wish you kissed in college? - Holy Kaw! .::. Size~: 28.76 KBApr 18 07:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The complete guide to modern day climate change http://ur1.ca/voh6 useful resourceApr 18 08:16
TechrightsBotTitle: The complete guide to modern day climate change «  Climate Progress .::. Size~: 115.29 KBApr 18 08:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Openbytes is getting a facelift today.......its been nearly two years with the same theme......#foss #linux #windows #microsoftApr 18 08:17
schestowitzhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1600999/mysql-oracle-microsoft-killerApr 18 08:18
TechrightsBotTitle:                     Mysql becomes oracle's microsoft killer - The Inquirer          .::. Size~: 57.42 KBApr 18 08:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] United States #Government Looking to Recruit #Microsoft to Brainwash the Public for Big Banks http://ur1.ca/voitApr 18 08:32
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @_Goblin Looks good and thanks for the nice article: http://tinyurl.com/y5azg49 "TheMadHatter's" comment was very interesting as well.Apr 18 08:33
TechrightsBotTitle: When must you shill for Linux?  A rather disturbing idea. « Openbytes .::. Size~: 38.26 KBApr 18 08:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] So thats the basics put into place. New logo (of sorts) coming and a few other features which I will add during the day!Apr 18 08:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] MoonOS looks very promising for my 8 years old Dell Optiplex GX240 (1.3 Ghz CPU and 384 MiB RAM, nVidia GeForce2 MX/MX400)Apr 18 08:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] OK, I'm off to bed now, for about 4 hours. That's the problem if you are single - no limits - stayed up all night...Apr 18 08:40
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/12/alien_survey/Apr 18 08:45
TechrightsBotTitle: One fifth of humans say aliens walk among us • The Register .::. Size~: 35.63 KBApr 18 08:45
schestowitzOh gawd.... the tosh from the Net to blame?Apr 18 08:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] L8t3r ;-)Apr 18 08:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] "[#Ottawa] decided to accept whatever #Toyota said & sloughed it off" http://bit.ly/az5tDo //what do you think "pro-business" MEANS? #harperApr 18 08:50
TechrightsBotTitle: Toyota drivers warned Ottawa - thestar.com .::. Size~: 53.74 KBApr 18 08:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Transport #Canada cites 85 consumer complaints about "driveability & accelerator" issues with #Toyota s since 2005 http://bit.ly/az5tDoApr 18 08:51
TechrightsBotTitle: Toyota drivers warned Ottawa - thestar.com .::. Size~: 53.74 KBApr 18 08:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Globe&Mail, is it really front page news in #Canada that LBJ's daughter was hospitalised? God forbid that his grandson's goldfish should ailApr 18 08:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@ggreenwald demolishes flimsy "rent-a-blogger" arguments that progressives should support WH #SCOTUS nominee Kagan http://bit.ly/cTmqmAApr 18 09:08
TechrightsBotTitle: The White House seeks out Kagan defenders - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com .::. Size~: 80.72 KBApr 18 09:08
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/16/pig_highway_missouri/Apr 18 09:08
TechrightsBotTitle: New road made from pigsh*t in Missouri • The Register .::. Size~: 38.62 KBApr 18 09:08
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schestowitzhttp://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0417/limbaugh-volcanic-ash-cloud-gods-punishment-health-care/Apr 18 09:17
TechrightsBotTitle: Limbaugh: Volcanic ash cloud is Gods punishment for health care |  Raw Story .::. Size~: 42.82 KBApr 18 09:17
schestowitzAh... it all makes sense nowApr 18 09:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] bombay cyclist club singer is improving, only sounds as if he is freezing to death sometimesApr 18 09:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @metacode The deficit-reduction video game brings to mind the DoD funding in the 1980's for research at MIT..Apr 18 09:23
schestowitzhttp://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0415/stewart-fox-news-logo-nazi-propaganda/Apr 18 09:23
TechrightsBotTitle: Stewart: Fox News logo like Nazi propaganda |  Raw Story .::. Size~: 41.46 KBApr 18 09:23
schestowitzhttp://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0414/hundreds-evacuated-iceland-volcano-erupts/Apr 18 09:24
TechrightsBotTitle: Hundreds evacuated in Iceland as volcano erupts |  Raw Story .::. Size~: 16.36 KBApr 18 09:24
schestowitzhttp://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1978713,00.htmlApr 18 09:25
TechrightsBotTitle: Bomb Chasers: How a Potential Nuke Was Rescued from the Chile Quake - TIME .::. Size~: 48.28 KBApr 18 09:25
schestowitzRussian President Dmitry Medvedev told ABC's George Stephanopoulos that President Obama is a "thinker" unlike "other people."Apr 18 09:27
schestowitzhttp://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-414197.htmlApr 18 09:29
TechrightsBotTitle: More details on HP bribery allegations | Tech News on ZDNet .::. Size~: 64.51 KBApr 18 09:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] axiom: chores expand to fill available Sunday.Apr 18 09:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Pandorum was embarrassingly derivative. with pseudo-scriptural subtexts explored it might've made a decent miniseries (see also #District9)Apr 18 09:32
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] #having chilled RedBull.Apr 18 09:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] brother pointed out that #Moon - for all its great qualities!! - only had a short story's worth of material. Feature length felt padded outApr 18 09:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jwildeboer: Airlines like KLM, Lufthansa question the grounfing. Their testflights shpw no problem. Its all based on computer simulation.Apr 18 09:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Listening to Cradle of Filth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH4pwCKIQYU - great sunday listening!!! (and yes Entr0py - got the DVD)Apr 18 09:37
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- Cradle Of Filth - From The Cradle To Enslave [Live] .::. Size~: 79.09 KBApr 18 09:37
schestowitzhttp://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/04/12/google-faces-tax-protest-again-in-the-uk?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+WebpronewsTopNewsRssFeed+%28Top+News+Items+-+WebProNews%29Apr 18 09:39
schestowitz"This whole affair began about one year ago, when an accountant hired by the Sunday Times found that over 90 percent of Google's UK tax revenues were channeled through Ireland in 2007, saving the company something like $160 million due to differences in tax rates."Apr 18 09:39
TechrightsBotTitle: Google Faces Tax Protest Again In The UK | WebProNews .::. Size~: 34.44 KBApr 18 09:39
Diablo-D3they say that like its a problemApr 18 09:40
Diablo-D3a company is required to profit wherever safe to do soApr 18 09:40
schestowitzSo fix regulationsApr 18 09:40
Diablo-D3exactlyApr 18 09:41
Diablo-D3if they dont want companies doing that, then fix the regulationsApr 18 09:41
Diablo-D3dont blame googleApr 18 09:41
Diablo-D3if this was the US, I'd say it was just a Republican tacticApr 18 09:41
schestowitzhttp://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/3492f8e8-4978-11df-9060-00144feab49a.htmlApr 18 09:46
TechrightsBotTitle: FT.com / Media -     Blow to Google as executive defects to Baidu .::. Size~: 35.25 KBApr 18 09:46
schestowitzLook what GOOG does for the "innocence" image: http://www.itwire.com/your-it-news/home-it/38259-google-gets-kids-doodlingApr 18 09:48
schestowitzhttp://discuss.itwire.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=19081&start=14#p61643Apr 18 09:50
TechrightsBotTitle: iTWire Discussions &bull; View topic - The main problem with Linux: ignorant users .::. Size~: 29.47 KBApr 18 09:50
schestowitzYikesApr 18 09:50
schestowitzMessApr 18 09:50
schestowitz"Any further comments will not be accepted and will result in the entire thread being deleted."Apr 18 09:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @glynmoody: Junto is Born! - http://bit.ly/b6ErUx open source "combining video chat with a text box and a twitter backchannel, all publicApr 18 10:02
TechrightsBotTitle: Junto is Born! « emergent by design .::. Size~: 75.29 KBApr 18 10:02
schestowitzMaggie Shiels  being a Microsoft booster again http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8614764.stmApr 18 10:07
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schestowitz"HEY! It's Ron Paul!" vApr 18 10:13
schestowitzhttp://www.penguinpetes.com/Doomed_to_Obscurity/index.php?strip=0000240.jpgApr 18 10:13
TechrightsBotTitle:     Doomed to Obscurity   .::. Size~: 58.45 KBApr 18 10:13
schestowitz_goblin: seen the new theme, liked it as much as the old oneApr 18 10:13
_goblinyeah I need a changeApr 18 10:14
schestowitz"Change, please!"Apr 18 10:14
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_goblin2 years of Openbytes nearly....Apr 18 10:14
schestowitzhttp://www.penguinpetes.com/Doomed_to_Obscurity/index.php?strip=0000241.jpgApr 18 10:15
TechrightsBotTitle:     Doomed to Obscurity   .::. Size~: 58.45 KBApr 18 10:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin like the new theme. Distinguishable from JWilcox now.Apr 18 10:15
schestowitzYou could do a section on Microsoft's pseudo-opensourceApr 18 10:15
schestowitzCall it OpenBITES!Apr 18 10:15
MinceRgeekingsApr 18 10:15
schestowitzhttp://seekingalpha.com/article/198456-eric-schmidt-mobile-is-the-future?source=feedApr 18 10:16
TechrightsBotTitle: Eric Schmidt: Mobile Is the Future -- Seeking Alpha .::. Size~: 88.04 KBApr 18 10:16
_goblinschestowitz: I like it.....I am doing other sections shortly.....Apr 18 10:18
_goblinI need a decent logo nowApr 18 10:18
schestowitzhttp://www.cbronline.com/news/infosys_to_manage_internal_it_services_of_microsoft_100414Apr 18 10:19
schestowitz_goblin: we need a logo tooApr 18 10:19
schestowitzCurrent one is temporaryApr 18 10:19
schestowitzEruaran said he'd work on a new oneApr 18 10:19
schestowitzMaybe an adaptation of the current (temporary one)Apr 18 10:20
TechrightsBotTitle: Infosys to manage internal IT services of Microsoft - Computer Business Review : News .::. Size~: 54.11 KBApr 18 10:20
schestowitzGoogle has indexed almost half the site at the new address. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en-GB&q=site%3A%2F%2Ftechrights.org&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8Apr 18 10:21
TechrightsBotTitle: site://techrights.org - Google Search .::. Size~: 25.17 KBApr 18 10:21
_goblinIve changed the theme since I am hoping to pull in a Q&A with ACS:Law....its about time I challenged them directly instead of through 3rd parties.Apr 18 10:21
_goblinLike (for my first question) How can you seek civil recompense in UK courts for titles that have not achieved BBFC classification?Apr 18 10:22
schestowitzhttp://www.v3.co.uk/v3/analysis/2261134/top-ten-signs-politiciansApr 18 10:24
schestowitzhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1601187/law-firm-defends-attacking-pensionersApr 18 10:24
TechrightsBotTitle:                     Law firm defends attacking pensioners - The Inquirer          .::. Size~: 63.23 KBApr 18 10:24
schestowitzhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1601070/ofcom-charge-digital-economy-scrutinyApr 18 10:24
TechrightsBotTitle:                     Ofcom is in charge of digital economy scrutiny - The Inquirer          .::. Size~: 61.48 KBApr 18 10:24
schestowitzpre-assassination lettersApr 18 10:24
_goblinyeah I saw some of those, although they all miss out the important point...if something is not allowed to be sold in the UK, how can damages be sought from a UK court.Apr 18 10:24
schestowitz_goblin: you're a nice guy, I'll make you a deal; you can settle your assassination for just a hundred quidApr 18 10:25
schestowitzI call it racketeeringApr 18 10:25
_goblinclever though.Apr 18 10:25
schestowitzBut...Apr 18 10:25
schestowitzThey have already labeled seniors "pirates"Apr 18 10:26
schestowitzOr "Criminals"Apr 18 10:26
schestowitzSo they have the right to shoot to kill.... take the law into their own handsApr 18 10:26
_goblinthem old folk can be yobo'sApr 18 10:26
_goblinyou see them on street corners.....Apr 18 10:26
schestowitzhttp://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/04/13/webby.awards/index.htmlApr 18 10:26
TechrightsBotTitle: Colbert, Galifianakis top list of Webby Award nominees - CNN.com .::. Size~: 44.39 KBApr 18 10:26
_goblinnever underestimate the pensioner posse.Apr 18 10:26
schestowitzIs he not a tad pretentious?Apr 18 10:26
schestowitz_goblin: AARP?Apr 18 10:27
_goblinwho?Apr 18 10:27
schestowitzDisguesting: http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/04/15/twitter.ads.wired/index.htmlApr 18 10:28
TechrightsBotTitle: Will Twitter users accept 'sponsored tweets?' - CNN.com .::. Size~: 49.12 KBApr 18 10:28
schestowitzGross, grossApr 18 10:28
_goblinYou've just reminded me, I need to change your feed on Openbytes from "BoycottNovell" to "Techrights"Apr 18 10:29
schestowitz"IdeaLab is run by Bill Gross "Apr 18 10:29
schestowitzSOBApr 18 10:29
schestowitzHmm.... maybe I should design the new site logo nowApr 18 10:29
schestowitzEruaran: are you there?Apr 18 10:29
_goblinthere done.Apr 18 10:29
schestowitzhttp://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2010/04/my-digital-pledges/Apr 18 10:31
TechrightsBotTitle: Labour Party candidate for West Bromwich East Tom Watson .::. Size~: 52.47 KBApr 18 10:31
schestowitzhttp://www.boingboing.net/2010/04/12/zombie-birthday-cake.htmlApr 18 10:32
TechrightsBotTitle: Zombie birthday cake - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 39.48 KBApr 18 10:32
schestowitzYummyApr 18 10:32
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jamie_love Christian Engström on the "clever wording" of joint statement on #ACTA as regards graduated response http://bit.ly/ahsd95Apr 18 10:37
TechrightsBotTitle: Release of ACTA text is good, but many battles remain « Christian Engström, Pirate MEP .::. Size~: 37.61 KBApr 18 10:37
schestowitzhttp://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1240561Apr 18 10:37
TechrightsBotTitle: STUDENT QUESTION TIME - Nick Clegg answers your questions - The Student Room .::. Size~: 292.68 KBApr 18 10:37
schestowitzhttp://www.boingboing.net/2010/04/17/soviet-statues-as-co.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+boingboing%2FiBag+%28Boing+Boing%29Apr 18 10:42
TechrightsBotTitle: Soviet statues as comedy fountains - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 46.23 KBApr 18 10:42
schestowitzhttp://www.boingboing.net/2010/04/16/willie-nelson-is-hig.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+boingboing%2FiBag+%28Boing+Boing%29Apr 18 10:43
TechrightsBotTitle: Willie Nelson is high while on Larry King show - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 74.15 KBApr 18 10:43
schestowitzhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/194046/respawn_entertainment_new_game_studio.html?tk=rss_newsApr 18 10:46
TechrightsBotTitle: Sacked 'Call of Duty' Execs Form New Game Studio, Sign with EA - PCWorld .::. Size~: 73.14 KBApr 18 10:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Sign for the US Border: unprovoked beatings ahead http://www.boingboing.net/2010/04/16/sign-for-the-us-bord.html priceless, and trueApr 18 10:47
TechrightsBotTitle: Sign for the US Border: unprovoked beatings ahead - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 156.52 KBApr 18 10:47
schestowitzhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/194212/adobe_apple_flash.html?tk=rss_newsApr 18 10:56
TechrightsBotTitle: Adobe, Apple Continue to Clash Over Flash - PCWorld .::. Size~: 75.74 KBApr 18 10:56
schestowitzhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/194344/opensolaris_leaders_unnerved_by_oracle_silence.html?tk=rss_newsApr 18 11:01
TechrightsBotTitle: OpenSolaris Leaders Unnerved by Oracle Silence - PCWorld .::. Size~: 68.37 KBApr 18 11:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Sad: Palm's Software Chief Quits http://ur1.ca/vp7b I still use my 6-year-old Palm dailyApr 18 11:10
TechrightsBotTitle: Palm's Software Chief Quits - PCWorld .::. Size~: 64.57 KBApr 18 11:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] @schestowitz: My Palm TX is sat in a drawer being sad since I bought an android phone.Apr 18 11:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] You are being pushed right up against your comfort zone and ma... More for Aquarius http://twittascope.com/?sign=11Apr 18 11:13
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schestowitzhttp://www.truthout.org/iraq-vets-coverage-atrocities-is-too-little-too-late58527Apr 18 11:14
TechrightsBotTitle: t r u t h o u t | Iraq Vets: Coverage of Atrocities Is Too Little, Too Late .::. Size~: 48.75 KBApr 18 11:14
schestowitzEnder2070: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/apr/14/oxburgh-uea-cleared-malpracticeApr 18 11:15
TechrightsBotTitle: Scientists cleared of malpractice in UEA's hacked emails inquiry |Environment |guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 183.9 KBApr 18 11:15
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/apr/15/primark-padded-bikinis-mumsnet-sexualityApr 18 11:16
TechrightsBotTitle: Let girls wear Primark's padded bikinis | Laurie Penny |Comment is free |guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 187.72 KBApr 18 11:16
schestowitzhttp://pol.moveon.org/exxontaxday/Apr 18 11:18
TechrightsBotTitle: MoveOn.org Political Action: Corporations: Pay your Fair Share .::. Size~: 13.47 KBApr 18 11:18
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/apr/15/oakington-detention-centre-immigrant-deathApr 18 11:22
TechrightsBotTitle: Police probe death at immigration removal centre |UK news |The Guardian .::. Size~: 64.46 KBApr 18 11:22
schestowitzPrisoners last....Apr 18 11:22
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/15/terror-suspects-afghanistan-bagramApr 18 11:25
TechrightsBotTitle: Terror suspects held 'illegally' in Afghanistan prison named by charity |World news |The Guardian .::. Size~: 70.26 KBApr 18 11:25
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/15/blanding-treasure-hunt-suicides-fbiApr 18 11:30
schestowitzDiablo-D3: http://pol.moveon.org/exxontaxday/Apr 18 11:30
TechrightsBotTitle: Native American artefacts bring curse of suicides and FBI raids |World news |The Guardian .::. Size~: 72.99 KBApr 18 11:30
TechrightsBotTitle: MoveOn.org Political Action: Corporations: Pay your Fair Share .::. Size~: 13.47 KBApr 18 11:30
schestowitzre tax loophlesApr 18 11:30
Diablo-D3schestowitz: Im on moveon.org's mlApr 18 11:31
schestowitzgood for US citizensApr 18 11:33
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/28395871 ' ...and I nearly ruined my monitor at "I am computer literate! I have 22 years in computer systems engineering and operation."'Apr 18 11:33
TechrightsBotTitle: Georg C. F. Greve (greve) 's status on Tuesday, 13-Apr-10 16:21:43 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 7.97 KBApr 18 11:33
schestowitzhttp://wwwf.centos.org/127_story.html?storyid=127Apr 18 11:34
TechrightsBotTitle: www.centos.org - News - CentOS in the News - It's L-i-n-u-x, that is an Operating System .::. Size~: 23.48 KBApr 18 11:34
schestowitz"I am the City Manager of Tuttle, Oklahoma."Apr 18 11:34
schestowitzClassicApr 18 11:34
schestowitzhttp://webmink.com/2010/04/16/links-for-2010-04-16/ "Yes, the US Trade Representative really is saying “choose your freedoms”. It seems we can only have process transparency in exchange for an early surrender of citizen freedoms under ACTA. Disgusting."Apr 18 11:39
TechrightsBotTitle: ☞ Understanding Patent Absurdity « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 44.78 KBApr 18 11:39
schestowitzObama boosts it tooApr 18 11:39
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz I should have been more distinguishable anyway, Ive got more hair than him and he's not an internet sex symbol like me!!! ;)Apr 18 12:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] repeat of a joke for the theists via john cleese, "how do you make god laugh?...tell him your plans"Apr 18 12:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Why RationalWiki is needed: so that horrifyingly stupid *real questions* can be dealt with in an appropriate tone. e.g. http://is.gd/by0kOApr 18 12:16
TechrightsBotTitle: How come there are still monkeys? - RationalWiki .::. Size~: 24.29 KBApr 18 12:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] GNU - A new fragrance by RMS - http://i.imgur.com/88Jgz.jpg - Eau de beard?Apr 18 12:18
TechrightsBotTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KBApr 18 12:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @popey mine is a Palm TT.... I still have an M130 somewhereApr 18 12:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] The amount of cpu wasted by #Flash is starting to become embarrassingly obvious to everyone. Major cocktail party topic.Apr 18 12:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Backing up using rsnapshot to a local USB disk seems orders of magnitude faster than deja-dup/duplicity.Apr 18 12:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Random Wallpaper Changer Script http://post.ly/bJlpApr 18 12:41
TechrightsBotTitle:         Random Wallpaper Changer Script - LUG@IITD Community Blog     .::. Size~: 28.93 KBApr 18 12:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Trans fats should be banned from all UK sold food, urge doctors http://is.gd/by1Lf #healthApr 18 12:44
TechrightsBotTitle: Trans fats should be banned from all UK sold food, urge doctors |UK news |The Guardian .::. Size~: 68.06 KBApr 18 12:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] If you collect old Ubuntu CDs and you're coming to #oggcamp on May 1st/2nd in Liverpool then maybe we can swap some http://bit.ly/9O2VaDApr 18 12:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @rahulsundaram: Hardware #Ogg acceleration or how to play full-screen #Theora video on the N900 with 80% idle CPU http://is.gd/by2HhApr 18 13:06
TechrightsBotTitle: Matthew Gregan &mdash; Theora On N900 .::. Size~: 8.43 KBApr 18 13:06
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oiaohmBoy is Ubuntu fast heading down the line to pure mono.Apr 18 13:23
schestowitzBanshee you mean?Apr 18 13:28
oiaohmThe lose of gthumb.Apr 18 13:28
oiaohmlose/lossApr 18 13:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Sam (3) got an old toilet roll inner and said he wants to make 'a garlic' it took some decryption.. he actually meant 'a dalek'Apr 18 13:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Amazing how much of #osx remains to discover. Just learned about #pkgutilApr 18 13:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] What do we do with 'funny money' from EU states (german mark, belgian frank) now? Just found some in a drawerApr 18 13:41
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RT: @yuvipanda: How to Prevent a Bozo Explosion - http://tumblr.com/xsd8ru6qkApr 18 13:48
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] hay fever from hell. killll meeeeee.Apr 18 13:53
amarsh04oiaohm, I even provided a patch to gthumb not knowing C (eliminating a stupidity that made it too easy to accidentally delete an image)Apr 18 13:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Rogson Spreads #GNU #Linux Through His Students http://ur1.ca/vpvi http://ur1.ca/vpvjApr 18 14:06
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schestowitzamarsh04: you can see syntax elsewhere in the code if you don't know the languageApr 18 14:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux Today's Editor on What Makes a Perfect GNU/Linux Desktop http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-04-16-030-35-OP-CY-SWApr 18 14:07
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schestowitzThat's why CS teaches principles, Microsoft just lets people memorise thingsApr 18 14:07
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_Goblinhi allApr 18 14:08
schestowitzo/Apr 18 14:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Today I earned 2500/- INR by typing 2 characters of code. :) #foss #consultancy :)Apr 18 14:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Power #IBM Servers Run Just #UNIX and #GNU #Linux http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/13/ibm_power7_blades/Apr 18 14:11
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Migration Explained by Female Admin http://www.osnews.com/story/23155/Inside_a_MigrationApr 18 14:13
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 3 New Audiocasts About #GNU #Linux and #FreeSoftware http://ur1.ca/veze http://ur1.ca/vpwg http://ur1.ca/vpwhApr 18 14:14
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_GoblinGetting the latest build (56) of my beloved Wolvix at the moment....Apr 18 14:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google Finds Better Way for Printing in #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/vpwp http://ur1.ca/vpwr http://ur1.ca/vpwuApr 18 14:16
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ALSA 1.0.23 is Released http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODE1OQ #linuxApr 18 14:17
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_GoblinWhen is the channel name going to change to TechRIGHTs?Apr 18 14:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Support Improved by Port of TeamViewer (Proprietary) http://ur1.ca/vpxg New Wine: http://ur1.ca/vpxiApr 18 14:20
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_Goblin...Apr 18 14:20
_Goblinstill don't like the channel slogan "adversaries" sounds far too combative and close minded.Apr 18 14:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Short Review of Activity Journal for #GNOME Desktop http://www.workswithu.com/2010/04/17/a-look-at-gnome-activity-journal/Apr 18 14:32
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More #Games for #GNU #Linux - Speed Dreams, Osmos, Park Baseball http://ur1.ca/vpyk http://ur1.ca/vpyl http://ur1.ca/vhqoApr 18 14:33
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look a #SalixOS 13.0 and #Netlive (GNU/Linux Distributions) http://ur1.ca/vpyw http://ur1.ca/vpyxApr 18 14:34
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Review of #RedHat -Derived #ClearOS 5.1 http://linuxbsdos.com/2010/04/16/clearos-5-1-review/Apr 18 14:35
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fedora 13 Gets #Btrfs Power, Other Enhancements http://ur1.ca/vpz7 http://ur1.ca/vpz8 http://ur1.ca/vpzbApr 18 14:36
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Stefano Zacchiroli is Elected as Head of the #Debian Family http://ur1.ca/vpzg http://ur1.ca/pzjw http://ur1.ca/vpzhApr 18 14:38
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] israel's own guantanimo http://is.gd/by7qN #palestine #occupationApr 18 14:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu to be Shipped Free of Charge; Other News http://ur1.ca/vpzr http://ur1.ca/vpzs http://ur1.ca/vpztApr 18 14:41
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I've just realised that I have run #Ubuntu on at least one computer for over 5 years nowApr 18 14:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Review of #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux 10.04, Comparison to #LinuxMint http://ur1.ca/vq05 http://ur1.ca/vq07Apr 18 14:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux Powers #CloudPlug and AI Robot of a Dinosaur http://ur1.ca/vq0d http://ur1.ca/vgj6Apr 18 14:44
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schestowitz_Goblin: maybe you think of how the Republicans used the termApr 18 14:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right back to the PC....chores done for the day, wife appeased, children happy....its going far too well at the moment.Apr 18 14:50
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] What #FreeSoftware Really is About and Why It Matters http://www.fsdaily.com/blog/if-theyre-going-do-it-anywayApr 18 14:58
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #TangoGPS is Forked http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2010-April/061313.htmlApr 18 15:00
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #Moodle for #FreeSoftware in Education http://opensource.com/education/10/4/can-you-moodle-me-nowApr 18 15:04
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla to Being Out More "Cool Stuff" Soon http://ur1.ca/vq2z http://ur1.ca/vq30Apr 18 15:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Sext Of Kin - Kinda apt for yet another MS attempt at a new device, it's DOA http://tinyurl.com/y2aszw4Apr 18 15:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Oracle 's #OpenSolaris Community Could Fork http://ur1.ca/vq36 http://ur1.ca/vq37Apr 18 15:06
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Waking up wifes XP laptop to do updates on it before she takes it to work tomorrow. Wonder how much it will need to do.Apr 18 15:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #MySQL Database's Future Under #Oracle http://ur1.ca/vq3e http://ur1.ca/vq3fApr 18 15:07
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Incubating new LUGs/FSUGs/SIGs at your Schools/Colleges/University/Institutes/Area #india #foss http://post.ly/bLCSApr 18 15:11
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schestowitzEnder2070: http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4046Apr 18 15:18
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schestowitz*LOL*Apr 18 15:18
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] yo!! His holiness @dalailama with #CSK : http://www.cricinfo.com/ipl2010/content/image/456531.html?object=419159;page=1 #chinaApr 18 15:23
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_Goblinschestowitz: I just think that adversaries feeds the comment that some people make when they claim FOSS advocates say "You are either with us or against us".....Apr 18 15:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] EU Funds #FLOSSMetrics for Public/Government/Business Benefit http://ur1.ca/vq5bApr 18 15:25
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Surge in Opportunities for #FreeSoftware Professionals http://ostatic.com/blog/employers-and-developers-alike-are-favoring-open-sourceApr 18 15:26
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ODF Plugfest Report; #Flash Video Shows Signs of Imminently Dying http://ur1.ca/vq5o http://ur1.ca/vq5p http://ur1.ca/vq5qApr 18 15:28
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schestowitzGroklaw promotes hypePad? come on! http://www.groklaw.net/newsitems.php?page=4Apr 18 16:12
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @jimmy_wales: The one billionth edit will take place April 17th or so: prepare your party hats! http://ow.ly/1x7xO.Apr 18 16:19
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] BBC thinks there are no other important things happening in the world and deluge us with days of no aircraft flying stories, everyone knowsApr 18 16:20
schestowitz"[PJ: Correction. Microsoft has never been compatible with the ISO standard. It's not a matter of being compatible and no longer keeping compatible. It was all essentially a virtual standard, or a standard in an alterate universe where actually none of us live or ever have or ever will. So to all those who voted for OOXML to be an ISO standard, what were you thinking? Anyone? ISO people? Buehler?]"Apr 18 16:22
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schestowitzOh dearApr 18 16:45
schestowitzGroklaw also plays apologist for Goldman????Apr 18 16:45
schestowitzThere's no black and white to companiesApr 18 16:45
schestowitzBut the site should stand on principles, not teamsApr 18 16:45
schestowitzI could never figure out why Groklaw was so defensive of AppleApr 18 16:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] 2010 and some people still say british subjects rather than british citizens!Apr 18 16:46
schestowitzhttp://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/story.html?id=2908024Apr 18 16:46
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schestowitzNo pen and paperApr 18 16:46
schestowitzGroklaw links to this now: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9175687/Why_the_iPad_is_a_creativity_machine?taxonomyId=163&pageNumber=3Apr 18 16:47
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schestowitz"[PJ: You can buy an iPad for $499. Think about that for one moment.] "Apr 18 16:47
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schestowitzIt would be futile telling PJ to stop shilling for Jobs and his GangApr 18 16:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Is it sad that I just thought "We should have Chinese take-away this week" not for the food but for the handy reusable plastic boxes.Apr 18 16:48
Omar87Greetings everyone.Apr 18 16:48
Omar87schestowitz, are you there?Apr 18 16:48
schestowitzYes, but going in a momentApr 18 16:49
schestowitzAnything urgent?Apr 18 16:49
Omar87schestowitz, not really. I just wanted to ask you for some feedback about my recent blog post. Apr 18 16:50
satipera omar87 well i liked itApr 18 16:51
Omar87It seems it didn't receive much attention from the people. I just want to learn how I can improve my future posts so that they catch more  eyes than this one.Apr 18 16:51
satiperathink i followed an openbytes linkApr 18 16:51
Omar87satipera, thanks. :-)Apr 18 16:52
*schestowitz back in 2 hoursApr 18 16:52
Omar87schestowitz, sure. Tyt.Apr 18 16:54
Omar87satipera, do you have any good feedback about my post? 'coz it seems it didn't draw much attention at FSDaily, for example.Apr 18 16:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Well guess what? Islamic "sufism" is as far from being Islamic as east is from the west. :-D RT @ielsakka: http://bit.ly/9NFo4oApr 18 16:59
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satiperaomar87 i have not heard anything, but you have to give these things times. it is a process of building, i am sure in a year or two your blog will be well knownApr 18 17:05
Omar87satipera, I see. And I totally agree. Patience is of the essence. :)Apr 18 17:06
satiperapatience and persistence :)Apr 18 17:06
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Omar87satipera, exactly. That's what I was gonna say. :)Apr 18 17:07
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Sunny spring day. Took the dogs outside, it was almost warm enough that I didn't need a sweater. I love spring.Apr 18 17:36
DaemonFClmaoApr 18 17:39
DaemonFCthe Visa commercial with the pizza placeApr 18 17:39
DaemonFCthe card says "R. Farmer" on itApr 18 17:39
DaemonFC:DApr 18 17:39
satiperayou are famousApr 18 17:40
DaemonFCapparentlyApr 18 17:40
DaemonFCsatipera: I liked that Visa commercial where they ran his card to make sure it was approved before reviving him in the emergency room :)Apr 18 17:42
satiperacan you copyright namesApr 18 17:42
DaemonFCnoApr 18 17:42
DaemonFConly in relation to their use on a product or in a businessApr 18 17:42
satiperai was joking, like the visa addApr 18 17:42
DaemonFCthey didn't use my full name though anyway :PApr 18 17:43
satiperathey have good lawyers :)Apr 18 17:43
satiperai will have to look it up but i am pretty sure some company in the uk copyrighted a colour in relation to their businessApr 18 17:44
DaemonFCthat wouldn't be valid in the USApr 18 17:44
DaemonFCwell, I could copyright my company logo, but not the colors I used :) Apr 18 17:45
satiperaDaemonFC see this http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/472651.stmApr 18 17:47
TechrightsBotTitle: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 90 KBApr 18 17:47
DaemonFCfrivolous Apr 18 17:47
DaemonFCthe UK actually recognized that?Apr 18 17:48
DaemonFC:PApr 18 17:48
satiperawell, they seem to think so. what a lawyer would say i do not know. but it is a story i have heard a few timesApr 18 17:49
DaemonFCsatipera: Little Caesars can't have the toga guy say "Pizza Pizza!" in CanadaApr 18 17:49
satiperaha haApr 18 17:49
DaemonFCcause there's a pizza chain there called Pizza PizzaApr 18 17:49
satiperawhat is that saying, reality is stranger than fictionApr 18 17:50
DaemonFCsatipera: We're being slowly invaded by some Canadian coffee chain tooApr 18 17:51
DaemonFCbut then again, it was mostly bought out by Americans years agoApr 18 17:51
satiperathe swine how dare theyApr 18 17:51
DaemonFCso we're invading ourselves!Apr 18 17:51
satiperaah a civil war so much more civilisedApr 18 17:51
DaemonFCyeah, they're coming in mostly through Michigan and OhioApr 18 17:52
DaemonFCnone in Indiana yet, I'll try them when there's one near here :PApr 18 17:52
satiperaif there was truth in any one word it is chaosApr 18 17:52
DaemonFCsatipera: schestowitz keeps talking about the city of Detroit using Eminent Domain to buy homes and level themApr 18 17:53
DaemonFCbut it's not affecting the middle class or the richApr 18 17:53
DaemonFCthey'rre basically evicting poor peopleApr 18 17:53
satiperaeminent?Apr 18 17:53
DaemonFCeminent domain = The government can buy your property and you can't say noApr 18 17:54
satiperais that compulsory purchase?Apr 18 17:54
satiperayesApr 18 17:54
DaemonFCthey have to "compensate you" with a "fair price"Apr 18 17:54
DaemonFCsame thingApr 18 17:54
satiperai get the impression they are going to use that land as flood plane in the futureApr 18 17:55
DaemonFCyou can't challenge it itself in court Apr 18 17:55
DaemonFCyou can challenge two partsApr 18 17:55
satiperawhat are they doing with the landApr 18 17:55
DaemonFC1. The purpose for which they buy it has to be for the "public good"Apr 18 17:55
DaemonFC2. You can challenge the price they paid you.Apr 18 17:56
satiperabut the market value must be close to agricultural landApr 18 17:56
DaemonFCwell, Detroit is apparently just flattening the homes and leaving vacant lotsApr 18 17:56
satiperayes detroit is going back to farm land i hearApr 18 17:57
DaemonFCI suspect we'll see golf courses spring up thereApr 18 17:57
DaemonFC:)Apr 18 17:57
DaemonFCThey can't just evict the people for being poorApr 18 17:57
satiperawere the government responsible for maintaining the new orleans dykes?Apr 18 17:57
DaemonFCbut they CAN buy out all the places that poor people liveApr 18 17:57
DaemonFCleave only the places they can't affordApr 18 17:58
DaemonFCthat'll get rid of themApr 18 17:58
DaemonFCsatipera: The Army Corps of Engineers inherited them but did not build themApr 18 17:58
satiperaso who had the responsibility?Apr 18 17:58
DaemonFClots of improvised dykes, dams, and levees that the government inheritedApr 18 17:58
DaemonFCthe California Delta is the biggest and most dangerousApr 18 17:59
satiperalegallyApr 18 17:59
DaemonFCI wouldn't want to live withing 500 miles of thatApr 18 17:59
DaemonFCsatipera: The levees creating the Delta were made by farmers using substandard materials almost 100 years agoApr 18 18:00
satiperasounds like an accident waiting to happenApr 18 18:00
DaemonFCone good eathquake could now take out much of California's good farmland and half their water supplyApr 18 18:00
DaemonFCbecause it would draw in salt water if the outer walls collapsed :)Apr 18 18:00
satiperai am interested in legal liability ref new orleansApr 18 18:00
DaemonFCCorps of EngineersApr 18 18:00
satiperahave they been taken to courtApr 18 18:01
DaemonFCsatipera: Technically, the Corps should have ripped out the improvised levee system and replaced it with a good oneApr 18 18:01
DaemonFCIn reality? There was no budget.Apr 18 18:01
DaemonFCCongress doesn't hand the money over, nothing you can doApr 18 18:01
DaemonFCso it's really not the fault of the CorpsApr 18 18:01
satiperaiis it an ongoing legal case?Apr 18 18:01
DaemonFCyesApr 18 18:02
satiperawhat is the state of playApr 18 18:02
DaemonFCit will drag out for years as Congress is now slowly trickling in funds to replace sections of the improvised systemApr 18 18:02
DaemonFCthe repairs and replacements won't be done for well over 10 years at this rateApr 18 18:02
satiperawhat about people who lost everythingApr 18 18:02
DaemonFCin the mean time, Katrina could happen againApr 18 18:02
DaemonFCstill fighting insurance companiesApr 18 18:03
DaemonFCwho in turn are going bankrupt or asking for federal bailoutsApr 18 18:03
satiperafighting insurence companies but why not the governmentApr 18 18:03
satiperainsuranceApr 18 18:03
DaemonFCwell, the insurance companies wrote the policies that they didn't have the money to coverApr 18 18:03
satiperayes, but if the army were responsibleApr 18 18:04
DaemonFCinsurance pools work on the assumption that they only need enough cash on hand to pay out X number of claims at onceApr 18 18:04
DaemonFCsatipera: No budget.Apr 18 18:04
DaemonFCand the Federal government has to allow itself to be suedApr 18 18:04
DaemonFCnot only that, it's not bound by civil judgments, even by a federal courtApr 18 18:04
satiperait strikes me that not having provisioned money for the army to carry out their obligations in negligenceApr 18 18:05
DaemonFCundoubtedly soApr 18 18:05
satiperais negligenceApr 18 18:05
satiperaso you have lawyersApr 18 18:05
DaemonFCquestion is, what can be done to make them pay the claims and fix the levees nowApr 18 18:05
satiperawhat is government argument for not paying the people who were floodedApr 18 18:06
DaemonFCwell, say I decided to sue the federal government, the court agreed to hear the case, and I got a judgmentApr 18 18:06
DaemonFCthe government can still refuse to payApr 18 18:06
satiperanext stepApr 18 18:07
DaemonFCsatipera: Don't give them a platform to air their grievances Apr 18 18:07
DaemonFCnobody hears themApr 18 18:07
DaemonFCnobody knowsApr 18 18:07
DaemonFCnever becomes an issueApr 18 18:07
DaemonFCHow much of this have you seen on any news channel?Apr 18 18:07
DaemonFCNone of itApr 18 18:07
satiperaso government can shaft residents by not doing what they should then buy their land cheapApr 18 18:07
DaemonFCthey couldApr 18 18:08
satiperawell none of us is surprisedApr 18 18:08
DaemonFCsatipera: In 2005, Connecticut used eminent domain to force dozens of homeowners to sell their landApr 18 18:09
DaemonFCthe neighborhoods destroyed, the homes leveledApr 18 18:09
DaemonFCWhat stands there today?Apr 18 18:09
satiperato what purposeApr 18 18:09
DaemonFCWell, the "public good" was supposed to be "new jobs" from all the company headquarters that moved in and leased the land for $1 per month from the stateApr 18 18:10
DaemonFCand what stands there today is....nothingApr 18 18:10
DaemonFCbecause Pfizer and other companies changed their mindApr 18 18:10
DaemonFCmoved over to India insteadApr 18 18:10
satiperait does not fill you with civic prideApr 18 18:11
DaemonFCso the government bought the land, destroyed the homes, to give out corporate welfare which fell through, and today there stands the biggest taxpayer-subsidized empty field in US historyApr 18 18:11
DaemonFCbrbApr 18 18:11
satiperafc have to go myself it's teatime here bfnApr 18 18:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Openbytes gets an "Open" threat of a lawsuit? As you can tell, Im very worried. Shame I have a portfolio of supporting material Ive.....Apr 18 18:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] collected over the years on the wouldbe claimant. Great stuff. On with the merriment.Apr 18 18:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Notes for the Last Week, DRM, Blogging, Filk, and other things. http://bit.ly/akzas4Apr 18 18:21
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] What is it with Microsoft #MVP ? I have picked up another one. Whilst I don't ban, I'd rather not have a MVP follower and any association.Apr 18 18:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @_Goblin i just checked your site, who is threatening to sue youApr 18 18:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @satipera I use the term "threat" loosely....its more of a vague mention that doesn't bother me. Check out my recent articles comments!Apr 18 18:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @_Goblin ah, mr da costaApr 18 18:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @_Goblin as for myself, sometimes I like to keep a couple MS Hypocrites around. At least they give you somethin to write abt every so often.Apr 18 18:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @Omar_S_Hafez exactly....its surprising that the MS faithful have not worked it out yet. I'll be linking to your site shortly!Apr 18 18:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @_Goblin It's quite obvious. These people are brainwashed and have willfully stripped from the dignity in service of Billy and Steve.Apr 18 18:48
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_goblinHi all.Apr 18 18:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Ive done quite well today, all household chores done, a new theme on my blog and a threat of a lawsuit. Not bad for a days work! #microsoftApr 18 18:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] airlines , the latest hard nosed captains of capitalism to cry boo hoo give us some tax payer money, wonder if hard man ryan will accept itApr 18 18:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] perhaps the airlines should follow the media industry and try and get the threat to their business model made illegal :)Apr 18 19:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @_Goblin A threat of law suit? From an MS Hypocrite, I suppose?Apr 18 19:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @Omar_S_Hafez Yeah, although its unclear what it is that they are complaining about....I'm not sure they know themselves.Apr 18 19:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @Omar_S_Hafez As you can tell, I'm very frightened. ;) Its been even funnier than reading "Vista is loved"Apr 18 19:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Good morning, people of the Internet, how are you all doing today?Apr 18 19:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] First order of business is to play with out new Keurig coffee machine, looks rather nice. :-)Apr 18 19:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @_Goblin hehe, these pathetic creatures can send all the threats they want. It will only add up to the fact that they are pathetic . ;-)Apr 18 19:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] @_Goblin #microsoft #mvp = sellout.Apr 18 19:13
schestowitzHeh. Hudson was at the health club today. http://www.metrolyrics.com/mr-hudson-lyrics.htmlApr 18 19:23
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schestowitzThe guy from the Jay Z songApr 18 19:23
schestowitzWe had a chat about the music business...Apr 18 19:24
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_goblinHi Roy....Apr 18 19:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @_the_mad_hatter Meant to ask, how many MVP's follow you? I find it rather distasteful to be associated in anyway with #MVPApr 18 19:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @_the_mad_hatter Unfortunately I don't ban or censor anyone so I have to let them stay.Apr 18 19:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Microsoft decision puts public libraries at risk - http://www.goodbyemicrosoft.net/news.php?item.568.3 #microsoft #windows #fail #mvpApr 18 19:36
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Another site championing the getting rid of #Microsoft products: http://www.goodbyemicrosoft.net/news.php #windows #foss #linux #mvpApr 18 19:37
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Looking at Wolvix 2beta (build 56).......feature coming soon on Openbytes. http://tinyurl.com/knvxnm #linux #foss #gnuApr 18 19:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @_Goblin Congrats for the new theme! :D #OpenbytesApr 18 19:49
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] we must blacklist some Indian foss community persons & camp who are ready to sell for publicity and money. fade up of stupid persons #fossApr 18 20:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] At @PemburyTavern with @nyecamden and sci fi geeks. Have advanced drug theory of CBeebies.Apr 18 20:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Warning – Gmail scam – Hot off the press! http://tinyurl.com/y2qcwrr #google #email #scam #warningApr 18 20:34
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] I'd say any version ♺ @claytoncubitt: "This site requires the latest version of Flash" might as well read "immediately ignore this site."Apr 18 20:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Am I the only one who gets bugs marked as duplicates of _newer_ _less_ detailed bugs when the newer ones are reported by Canonical people?Apr 18 20:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @Omar_S_Hafez Thanks, I think its an improvement over the last one and after two years (nearly) with the same theme, its time for a change.Apr 18 20:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Wolvix and Xfce 4 is lightning fast, even from a LiveCD...great stuff...very happy so far with build 56! #linux #foss #gnu #wolvixApr 18 20:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @_Goblin Have you linked to my blog yet?Apr 18 20:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @Omar_S_Hafez Not yet, Ive got to get my links sorted out...Ive tweeted it though earlier.Apr 18 20:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @_Goblin I see. Good luck with that. :-)Apr 18 20:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] just created a new page about #Microsoft tax fiasco (was found guilty of tax evasion before) http://ur1.ca/vrcjApr 18 21:03
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Guys we are planning for Ubuntu release party in Delhi -- join conversation - http://bit.ly/9Lqlp1 #ubuntu #delhiApr 18 21:06
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schestowitzhttp://www.montrealgazette.com/technology/Microsoft+says+China+exit/2442328/story.htmlApr 18 21:12
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schestowitzhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1266643/Microsofts-Chinese-workforce-tired-stay-awake.htmlApr 18 21:13
TechrightsBotTitle: Microsoft's Chinese workforce, too tired to stay awake  | Mail Online .::. Size~: 68.93 KBApr 18 21:13
schestowitz:-/Apr 18 21:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] mukt.in 2010 called off due to revival of Gujjar agitation in Rajasthan. new dates will be announced soon. #muktinApr 18 21:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @raneez: The "Holy sunanda" and "IPL class"...now onwards Shashi tharoor can TIP = Tweet In Peace #resignApr 18 21:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Muita propaganda à TV3D na SIC mas omitem os sistemas incompatíveis entre si e mentem quanto à qualidade da imagem, muito pior que no cinemaApr 18 21:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] New Blog Post | Let The ePub Love Begin | The Digital Prism (includes free ePub short story) http://tinyurl.com/y2ortsgApr 18 21:30
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] http://twitpic.com/1gnkv3Apr 18 21:49
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schestowitz_goblin:  :-DApr 18 21:54
_goblinmy beloved Wolvix is back.Apr 18 21:56
GoblinWolvixand its great!Apr 18 21:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin is that a real picture? The moon looks a tad... largeApr 18 21:56
schestowitzThe dev is back tooApr 18 21:56
schestowitzNorwgian guyApr 18 21:56
schestowitzCan't recall his name....paints buildings like DaemonFC doesApr 18 21:56
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Dear @engadget. Your image gallery think is broken in Firefox and Chromium for me. Can't move to next picture at all.Apr 18 21:59
schestowitzhttp://www.india-server.com/news/infosys-microsoft-enters-into-an-24620.htmlApr 18 22:00
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yuhonghttp://www.crunchgear.com/2010/04/18/the-users-manifesto-in-defense-of-hacking-modding-and-jailbreaking/Apr 18 22:15
TechrightsBotTitle:   The Users Manifesto: in defense of hacking, modding, and jailbreaking  .::. Size~: 80.37 KBApr 18 22:15
schestowitzWell, whateverApr 18 22:16
schestowitzI won't use such phonesApr 18 22:16
schestowitz:-pApr 18 22:16
yuhongStill, should be very interesting.Apr 18 22:16
MinceRi prefer hacking my phone _and_ keeping my warranty for itApr 18 22:17
MinceR(but the phone not blowing up in my face is also a plus)Apr 18 22:17
schestowitzAt least you're not the teenager building/assembling it @ 35 cents/hourApr 18 22:18
MinceR:>Apr 18 22:18
yuhongI know.Apr 18 22:18
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schestowitzI have some good posts for tomorrowApr 18 22:20
schestowitzWe seem to have broadened reach and the new organisation of the Wiki helpsApr 18 22:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Wolvix 2.0.0 beta Build 56 - update on new build! http://tinyurl.com/y3nwkuz #linux #foss #gnu #wolvixApr 18 22:22
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schestowitzhttp://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/apr/14/apples-new-ipad-not-yet-ready-to-replace-laptop/Apr 18 22:25
TechrightsBotTitle: KELLNER: Apple's new iPad not yet ready to replace laptop - Washington Times .::. Size~: 44.21 KBApr 18 22:25
MinceRnot yet?Apr 18 22:25
MinceRwhen will it be?Apr 18 22:25
MinceRonce people don't want to run apps of their choosing?Apr 18 22:26
MinceRor once they don't want to use a real keyboard?Apr 18 22:26
schestowitz_goblin: too short for Ladislav to include?Apr 18 22:27
schestowitzHe knows the developer of Wolvix BTWApr 18 22:27
_goblinladislav?Apr 18 22:27
schestowitzMinceR: I watched SF4 (Street Fighter 4) on a phone this eveningApr 18 22:27
schestowitzQuite impressiveApr 18 22:27
schestowitzOn-screen controllersApr 18 22:27
MinceRi'm not a fan of the button-mashing genre. :>Apr 18 22:28
schestowitz750mhz CPU doing pretty good work (high performance)Apr 18 22:28
schestowitz_goblin: distrowatchApr 18 22:28
MinceRalso, gaming is not all laptops can doApr 18 22:28
schestowitzSee #distrowatchApr 18 22:28
schestowitzFor over a year it's mostly just me thereApr 18 22:28
_goblinThe Wolvix post was only as an update to let people know that development has started again.Apr 18 22:28
MinceRyou can't even play an FPS well on a phone or a hypePad because you can't connect the mouseApr 18 22:28
_goblinI'll do a full review when it comes out of Beta,Apr 18 22:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Is it hot chocolate o'clock?Apr 18 22:29
schestowitzhere is people's sipmlified idea of "IT": http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/04/the-dogs-of-war-apple-vs-google-vs-microsoft/Apr 18 22:32
TechrightsBotTitle: The Dogs of War: Apple vs. Google vs. Microsoft | Epicenter | Wired.com .::. Size~: 100.97 KBApr 18 22:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] @popey: yep :-)Apr 18 22:32
schestowitzversus versus versus!!!!!!! yeah, BABAY!!Apr 18 22:32
schestowitzChoose your team now.... like in soccerApr 18 22:32
schestowitzhttp://newstrendstoday.com/headlines-the-dogs-of-war-apple-vs-google-vs-microsoft-infographic/012452Apr 18 22:33
TechrightsBotTitle:   Headlines: The Dogs of War: Apple vs. Google vs. Microsoft [Infographic] | News Trends     .::. Size~: 22.11 KBApr 18 22:33
MinceRsoccer? but i don't even know 'er!Apr 18 22:33
schestowitzNoApr 18 22:33
schestowitzShe'll soccer friendApr 18 22:33
schestowitzFootball if you know what I meanApr 18 22:33
schestowitzOK, I'm done defending GoogleApr 18 22:34
schestowitzFrom Microsoft anywayApr 18 22:34
schestowitzWaste of timeApr 18 22:34
schestowitzGoogle has these non-Free thingsApr 18 22:34
schestowitzLike Apps and DocsApr 18 22:34
schestowitzI won't use these as though it's OK because it's "not Microsoft"Apr 18 22:34
schestowitzWaste of tiemApr 18 22:34
schestowitzhttp://searchenginewatch.com/3640081Apr 18 22:35
TechrightsBotTitle: Has Yahoo Search Marketing Become A 'Dog'? - Search Engine Watch (SEW) .::. Size~: 61.92 KBApr 18 22:35
MinceRin some cases, google can be an ally; in other cases, they're a menaceApr 18 22:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz no its computer generated. You can see it full screen in Twitpic....still its a nice wallpaper.Apr 18 22:35
schestowitzBong is DoAApr 18 22:35
schestowitzNo news about itApr 18 22:35
MinceR224234 -BNtwitter:#boycottnovell- [schestowitz] @_goblin is that a real picture? The moon looks a tad... largeApr 18 22:35
MinceRThat's no moon!Apr 18 22:35
schestowitzI was kiddingApr 18 22:36
MinceRand i was referencing star warsApr 18 22:36
schestowitzI liked the wallpaperApr 18 22:36
schestowitz[in rely to _goblin]Apr 18 22:36
schestowitz*replyApr 18 22:36
schestowitzGoogle has control over infoApr 18 22:36
schestowitzI get my data through Google some of the timeApr 18 22:37
schestowitzSo they have the power to remove source/sites/articles from my sightApr 18 22:37
schestowitzYour sight tooApr 18 22:37
schestowitzMaybe not yetApr 18 22:37
MinceRindeedApr 18 22:37
schestowitzYou can already see what Microsoft doesApr 18 22:37
MinceRi wanted to experiment with client-side metasearchApr 18 22:37
schestowitzWith its 3% market share HubrisApr 18 22:37
MinceRthat would in theory allow me to combine search results from google/scroogle with other sourcesApr 18 22:38
MinceRbut there aren't many appsApr 18 22:38
schestowitzhttp://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2010/04/google-improves-search.htmlApr 18 22:38
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MinceRpinot didn't work too well for me; and i didn't find the time to install anotherApr 18 22:38
schestowitzAnother source of powerApr 18 22:38
schestowitzAuto-complete=we'll help you thinkApr 18 22:38
MinceR(Teardrop)Apr 18 22:39
schestowitzOur friend from India has gone for now... he's very kindApr 18 22:39
MinceRautocomplete isn't that bad, until they start collecting what you typedApr 18 22:39
schestowitzI always think "password in wrong box"Apr 18 22:39
schestowitzMaybe it's just me, but that's just what pops into my head as the "Scary" partApr 18 22:40
schestowitzOh, and wait..Apr 18 22:40
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHHEFKBUPlsApr 18 22:40
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- Al Qaeda Caller I.D. .::. Size~: 81.03 KBApr 18 22:40
MinceRone must be wary of typing passwords in the wrong box anywayApr 18 22:40
MinceRfor example, typing them in the location bar sends it off to a DNS serverApr 18 22:40
schestowitzThink along the lines of just tapping something into the keyboardApr 18 22:40
schestowitzFocus follows mouseApr 18 22:41
MinceRi've had to change some passwords due to such accidentsApr 18 22:41
MinceRfocus follows mouse is handy for some users, like meApr 18 22:41
schestowitzI've used it for agesApr 18 22:41
schestowitzSince like 2000Apr 18 22:41
schestowitzI had a friend who was never using WIndowsApr 18 22:41
MinceRi started using it sometime when i tried compiz, iircApr 18 22:41
schestowitzHe couldn't come to grips with the notion of clicking on WindowsApr 18 22:42
schestowitzOr windowsApr 18 22:42
schestowitzhttp://www.crn.com/software/224400111 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/google-amd-lead-mild-tech-gains-2010-04-15?reflink=MW_news_stmpApr 18 22:43
TechrightsBotTitle: Google Docs Updates: A Look Inside .::. Size~: 34.05 KBApr 18 22:43
TechrightsBotTitle: Google, AMD lead mild tech gains - MarketWatch .::. Size~: 97.99 KBApr 18 22:43
schestowitzy'know, some years ago I'd share articles about Apple doing wellApr 18 22:43
schestowitzTo show Microsoft was decliningApr 18 22:43
schestowitzI wouldn't do that now, so I ought to beware of defending Google tooApr 18 22:43
schestowitzIBM.........Apr 18 22:43
MinceRindeed, we should be wary of google and ibm as wellApr 18 22:44
MinceReven if not in the same way as crAppleApr 18 22:44
schestowitzhttp://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=33045Apr 18 22:44
TechrightsBotTitle: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Nokia protest data center cooling standard | Between the Lines | ZDNet.com .::. Size~: 102.36 KBApr 18 22:44
schestowitzBad for usApr 18 22:44
schestowitzGoogle, Amazon, Microsoft, Nokia protest  Planet EarthApr 18 22:44
schestowitzWell, Apple still has Groklaw covering its arse :-)Apr 18 22:44
MinceRafaik crApple always had their current relationship to free software (steal and oppose)Apr 18 22:45
schestowitzMinceR: why no EU-based giants?Apr 18 22:45
schestowitzThe Commission wondered thisApr 18 22:45
MinceRwhile afaik google still supports free software in some casesApr 18 22:45
schestowitzThey were gonna fund some EU SE around 2008Apr 18 22:45
MinceRschestowitz: nokia is in the EUApr 18 22:45
schestowitzNothing came out of itApr 18 22:45
schestowitzGoogle also hires some top CSers from EUropeApr 18 22:45
schestowitzMinceR: Nokia is much smallerApr 18 22:45
schestowitzPhilips maybeApr 18 22:46
schestowitzSAPApr 18 22:46
schestowitzOracle is biggerApr 18 22:46
schestowitzHmmmm... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NokiaApr 18 22:46
TechrightsBotTitle: Nokia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 389.8 KBApr 18 22:46
schestowitz123,171 employees??Apr 18 22:46
schestowitzBigger than the MafiaApr 18 22:46
schestowitzRevenue €40.99 billion (2009)Apr 18 22:46
schestowitzFinland's IT is very dependent on it thenApr 18 22:47
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hFKiWQ2TK_to4CkHsFVoXPO18jIAD9F1THV81Apr 18 22:48
TechrightsBotTitle: The Associated Press: Google adds a touch of Microsoft to applications .::. Size~: 8.64 KBApr 18 22:48
schestowitz"touch of Microsoft "Apr 18 22:48
schestowitzSince when it word processing same as "Microsoft"?Apr 18 22:48
schestowitzhttp://www.toptechreviews.net/tech-news/murdoch-threatens-to-keep-content-from-microsoft-google/Apr 18 22:49
TechrightsBotTitle: Murdoch Threatens to Keep Content from Microsoft & Google | Top Tech Reviews .::. Size~: 66.78 KBApr 18 22:49
schestowitzDinoApr 18 22:49
schestowitzBarney MurdochApr 18 22:49
schestowitzBTW, I had this chat today with a friend who's in journalism and this singer who works with Jay-ZApr 18 22:50
schestowitzTheir industry is dyingApr 18 22:50
schestowitzOne can get to be on national TV with big superstar and can hardly pay the billsApr 18 22:50
schestowitzTHe other is delusionalApr 18 22:50
schestowitzHe thinks Murdoch is some kind of God that will make people pay for newsApr 18 22:51
schestowitzIt's sad to tell them otherwise and it makes them sad too... but it's true. Abundance culture.Apr 18 22:51
MinceR:>Apr 18 22:51
schestowitzSource of income:Apr 18 22:52
schestowitz1) CultsApr 18 22:52
schestowitzExample: Apple ("I pay because it's from my sanctuary")Apr 18 22:52
schestowitz2) SrvicesApr 18 22:52
schestowitzExample: Google, giving people what they want, along with junk like adsApr 18 22:53
schestowitz3) CrimeApr 18 22:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft's search efforts have been pretty much dead in recent weeks, no news at allApr 18 22:53
schestowitzExample: Microsoft forcing people to buy stuff they don't like, through OEM cartels and some suchApr 18 22:53
schestowitzhttp://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2010/04/14/technology-technology-hardware-amp-equipment-us-tec-twitter-future_7515526.html?boxes=financechannelAPApr 18 22:54
TechrightsBotTitle: Twitter in no hurry to show ads beyond search - Forbes.com .::. Size~: 30.26 KBApr 18 22:54
schestowitzYou should set up Identi.caApr 18 22:54
schestowitzTwitter is the next Digg.... will turn to junk yard past some tipping pointApr 18 22:55
schestowitzhttp://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2010/04/13/technology-specialized-consumer-services-us-tec-twitter-ads_7510307.htmlApr 18 22:56
TechrightsBotTitle: Twitter to have paid tweets show up in searches - Forbes.com .::. Size~: 28.84 KBApr 18 22:56
schestowitz"Microsoft's Bing and Yahoo  ( YHOO -  news  -  people ). That means Twitter users would see the new ads when they search broadly for topics being tweeted about."Apr 18 22:56
MinceRgnApr 18 22:57
schestowitzhttp://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/194041/plummeting_palm_in_search_of_a_suitor.htmlApr 18 22:57
TechrightsBotTitle: Plummeting Palm in Search of a Suitor - PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 62.61 KBApr 18 22:57
schestowitzI wonder if I can still get old models of Palm somewhere, with a universal connector for keyboardsApr 18 22:57
MinceRold models that haven't bricked themselves one month after the warranty expired? :>Apr 18 22:57
schestowitzBack in the days open source PDAs were scarce and nearly inconceivable... bar ZaurusApr 18 22:58
schestowitzMinceR: like yours?Apr 18 22:58
MinceRlike mine, yesApr 18 22:58
schestowitzMine have been mostly OKApr 18 22:58
schestowitzheadphone jack is brokenApr 18 22:58
schestowitzStill some kinksApr 18 22:58
schestowitzI know the workarounds :-)Apr 18 22:58
MinceRthe only headphone jack that i owned and broke was the one on my Qtek 9100Apr 18 22:58
schestowitzIt does what I need it to doApr 18 22:59
schestowitzNo SF4Apr 18 22:59
schestowitzMinceR: based on USENET, it's a common problemApr 18 22:59
schestowitzI was far from aloneApr 18 22:59
MinceRbecause HTC didn't realize that making it of thin and flimsy plastic and leaving it stick out there with no support whatsoever is going to lead to breaksApr 18 22:59
schestowitzTried to fix it myselfApr 18 22:59
schestowitzOthers didApr 18 22:59
MinceRand the shitty shop i bought it from claimed their warranty doesn't apply to thisApr 18 22:59
schestowitzMany archives stuff about it in USENET noApr 18 22:59
schestowitz*nowApr 18 22:59
MinceRso i had to have it fixed for moneyApr 18 22:59
MinceRbut really, the circular audio jack should just dieApr 18 23:00
MinceRit's a stupid designApr 18 23:00
schestowitzI'm just shocked mine still worksApr 18 23:00
schestowitzRectangle?Apr 18 23:00
MinceRit lets the connector rotate, scraping away the metalApr 18 23:00
_goblinI love being right....Apr 18 23:00
MinceRand it randomly shorts the pins to each otherApr 18 23:00
schestowitz_goblin: righty hoApr 18 23:00
MinceRthere should be some sort of rectangular/modular jack, yesApr 18 23:00
_goblin"Remember Andre how I said two years ago on Microsoft Watch that your words and behaviour would come back to haunt you? Well now maybe they have."Apr 18 23:00
schestowitzMinceR: too lateApr 18 23:01
MinceRmakes the ExtUSB look goodApr 18 23:01
MinceReven if it's otherwise a backwards ideaApr 18 23:01
schestowitz_goblin: who's Andre?Apr 18 23:01
schestowitzMister DeeeeApr 18 23:01
_goblinlolApr 18 23:01
schestowitzMr. Dean :-)Apr 18 23:01
_goblinapparently his name is so big its what attracted all my readers.Apr 18 23:01
_goblinthats his latest claim.Apr 18 23:01
MinceRcorrection: and it randomly shorts the pins to each other while [dis]connectingApr 18 23:02
schestowitz_goblin: yesApr 18 23:02
schestowitzHe's bigger than MJApr 18 23:02
_goblinhe got very cross with my comment of: "A thought did occur to me, I wonder if Andre Da Costa knows about the freebies? Maybe we will see a PR campaign for Elive from him as he tries to get his hands on a free install?....It’s a tempting thought however do we really want to see comments such as “Its a shame Michael Jackson didn’t live to see Elive” ???? or “It’s a shame Michael Jackson isn’t Elive”Apr 18 23:02
schestowitzSpammers started spamming Google and mail boxes with Andre's nameApr 18 23:02
schestowitzHArdcore Child-molestation MJ/Andre productionsApr 18 23:03
MinceRlolApr 18 23:03
MinceR"MJ isn't Elive"Apr 18 23:03
_goblinyes he is!Apr 18 23:03
schestowitzMinceR: he's the kid in their screenshotApr 18 23:03
schestowitzThe elive lead dev puts the Prodigy from IBM (freckled kid) in his demosApr 18 23:04
_goblinI wonder how much he "donates" for that.Apr 18 23:04
schestowitzBTW, that kid is now an adult and IBM made a new ad with him for LDApr 18 23:04
_goblinand the Angelina Jolie picture.Apr 18 23:04
MinceRchild molestation is now left to the catholics.Apr 18 23:04
_goblinMind you, its almost worth the 15 quid registration just for that Angelina Jolie backdrop.....Apr 18 23:05
schestowitz_goblin: maybe he meant Mary Jo  (MJ)Apr 18 23:05
schestowitzHe's a big fan of hersApr 18 23:05
_goblinlolApr 18 23:05
_goblinis she dead? Whose using her name? Andre?Apr 18 23:05
schestowitzMinceR: and MuhammadApr 18 23:05
schestowitzBut they say the prophet hadn't had sex with her until she was older than 9 when he married her, so that's OK, I guess?Apr 18 23:06
schestowitzActually, the testaments allow polygamy, slaughter of one's own son for good, sacrifice of girls, etc.Apr 18 23:07
MinceRiirc there's also offering one's daughter for rapeApr 18 23:07
schestowitzhttp://www.networkworld.com/community/node/59959Apr 18 23:07
TechrightsBotTitle: Is Microsoft's cloud strategy really that special? | NetworkWorld.com Community .::. Size~: 76.28 KBApr 18 23:07
schestowitzAnother Microsoft boosting blog from IDGApr 18 23:08
MinceRbut hey, if so many people present it as the yardstick of morals then it surely must beApr 18 23:08
MinceRi don't know muhammad's story thoughApr 18 23:08
schestowitzhttp://www.gamedaily.com/games/xbox-360/xbox-360/game-features/report-european-marketing-vp-david-gosen-leaves-microsoft/Apr 18 23:10
TechrightsBotTitle: Xbox 360 on Xbox 360 Features - GameDaily .::. Size~: 29.15 KBApr 18 23:10
schestowitzMinceR: study it, you'll be surprisedApr 18 23:10
MinceRmaybe later i'll have time to read such bad works of fictionApr 18 23:11
schestowitzSame with Jesus and Nazareth and the mere 12 bachelor followers he hadApr 18 23:11
schestowitzIf he existed at allApr 18 23:11
schestowitzThe spread is attributed to PaulApr 18 23:11
schestowitzJesus said "Slay him/them before me"Apr 18 23:11
schestowitzAnd they call him a peace-makerApr 18 23:11
MinceRdead people are indeed peacefulApr 18 23:12
schestowitzMinceR: wanna read fictionApr 18 23:12
schestowitzThen look at chiropractors and MormonsApr 18 23:12
schestowitzThey are proud of their fictionsApr 18 23:12
schestowitzSome create an alien-based mythApr 18 23:12
schestowitzANd even after the investor says it's made up, they keep defending it as realApr 18 23:12
MinceR"Death solves all problems — no man, no problem." -- Anatoly RybakovApr 18 23:12
schestowitzBetter attack the truth than admit you wasted one's life worshipping... well, something like Woz and JobsApr 18 23:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Still not heard back from the Elive devs yet. I wonder how many "invites" they will deem my article is worth? #linux #elive #fossApr 18 23:13
schestowitzMinceR: he's not deadApr 18 23:13
schestowitzhe's aliveApr 18 23:13
schestowitzHe was resurrectedApr 18 23:13
schestowitzFlew in a trajectory into spaceApr 18 23:13
schestowitzWill return as comet when there's chaos hereApr 18 23:14
schestowitzHere's the thingApr 18 23:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] If I get any they will all be up for grabs for free on Openbytes....stay tuned! #linux #elive #fossApr 18 23:14
schestowitzIf there's a better Planet after "life"Apr 18 23:14
schestowitzThen how come religious people don't take a shortcut and fake deadly accident?Apr 18 23:14
schestowitzI mean, come onApr 18 23:14
schestowitz72 virgins... rivers of WINE1Apr 18 23:14
schestowitzYou know you want to!Apr 18 23:15
MinceRbecause their gods would know the accidents were fakedApr 18 23:15
schestowitzAfter drinking a river of wine I doubt you'll need the virgins thoughApr 18 23:15
schestowitzYou'll throw up in that same riverApr 18 23:15
schestowitzThen the almighty comes and sez, "get offa ma cloud!" [and you fall to Hell]Apr 18 23:16
schestowitzMinceR: they know everythingApr 18 23:16
schestowitzThey watch you in the shower, tooApr 18 23:17
MinceR"ceiling cat is watching you masturbate"Apr 18 23:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] For those wanting to read about Elive check out my article: http://tinyurl.com/y5azg49 #elive #linux #foss #gnuApr 18 23:19
TechrightsBotTitle: When must you shill for Linux?  A rather disturbing idea. « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 62.52 KBApr 18 23:19
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satiperaschestowitz, just finished watching frankie boyle doing live standup, i bet he could do 5 minutes on chiropractors and mormonsApr 18 23:21
satiperait was funny but as usual more than the odd few uncomfortable momentsApr 18 23:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Bummer for Apple, plenty of their users actually DO want a different web browser. Competition's a bitch http://tinyurl.com/y48zvf2Apr 18 23:25
TechrightsBotTitle: BBC News - Opera iPhone app downloaded a million times in 24 hours .::. Size~: 47.63 KBApr 18 23:25
satiperathe only comic i know that is as offensive to muslims as he is everyone elseApr 18 23:25
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_goblinrApr 18 23:31
schestowitzHmmm... Dr. John Spencer has jus left Sirius Corporation PLC.Apr 18 23:32
schestowitz_goblin: arrrrrrrr......Apr 18 23:32
_goblinsorry...Apr 18 23:32
schestowitzsatipera: I have a show to recommend to youApr 18 23:32
satiperago onApr 18 23:32
schestowitzhttp://skeptoid.com/episode_guide.phpApr 18 23:33
TechrightsBotTitle: Skeptoid Episode Guide .::. Size~: 92.79 KBApr 18 23:33
schestowitzI've watched the latest 160 episodes over the past fortnight. It's really goodApr 18 23:33
schestowitzhttp://www.bendbulletin.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100418/NEWS0107/4180331/-1/RSSNEWSMAPApr 18 23:35
TechrightsBotTitle: After iPad, rivals offer hybrid hand-helds |  | The Bulletin  .::. Size~: 37.96 KBApr 18 23:35
schestowitzWhy does it get so much coverage? it's not even goodApr 18 23:35
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satiperai bet that site goes down well in the bible beltApr 18 23:36
satipera160 how long are the castsApr 18 23:37
satiperai have suspected for quite a while that your days have far more than 24 hoursApr 18 23:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] TeamViewer looks good and testing it I'm impressed. But man alive it's expensive for commercial use.Apr 18 23:53
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