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_goblinJust watched Doctor Who again......not sure about the new Daleks.....Apr 19 00:08
cubezzzanother new doctor?Apr 19 00:08
cubezzzweird how it's still goingApr 19 00:09
_goblinyeah...I like himApr 19 00:09
_goblinI think he's a good choice.Apr 19 00:09
cubezzzI watched Dr Who from my crib and I'm 44 now :)Apr 19 00:09
_goblincubezz: Doctor who to brits is like Fish and chips.....tradition.Apr 19 00:09
cubezzzit is Apr 19 00:09
_goblinwhich is why Im not happy with the new Daleks...Apr 19 00:10
_goblinthey have hunchbacks.Apr 19 00:10
cubezzzis there a picture?Apr 19 00:10
_goblinI'll screen grab one.....standbyApr 19 00:11
_goblinshould be coming through on the IRC retweeter...Apr 19 00:14
_goblinany time now....Apr 19 00:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] New Daleks.....not sure I like them. http://twitpic.com/1golcjApr 19 00:15
TechrightsBotTitle:  New Daleks.....not sure I like them. on Twitpic  .::. Size~: 6.48 KBApr 19 00:15
cubezzzthey don't look that different :)Apr 19 00:16
_goblinyes they do!Apr 19 00:16
schestowitzhttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63B42120100412Apr 19 00:16
TechrightsBotTitle: Palm hires advisers, explores options: source| Reuters .::. Size~: 51.33 KBApr 19 00:16
_goblinHunchbacksApr 19 00:16
_goblinsilly coloursApr 19 00:16
_goblindifferent eye pieceApr 19 00:16
_goblinah...the blasphemy!Apr 19 00:16
_goblinEXTERMINATEApr 19 00:17
schestowitzsatipera: about 10 minutes eachApr 19 00:17
cubezzzhmmm, there might be a bigger pic on wikipediaApr 19 00:17
schestowitzhttp://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362637,00.asp "Twitter is the new Microsoft in my analogy. "Apr 19 00:18
cubezzzthey look taller than the old daleksApr 19 00:18
schestowitzWhat an insult.Apr 19 00:18
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cubezzzall they need is a green dalek :)Apr 19 00:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@johnleesandiego RT @OTOOLEFAN Remember Hannity offered to be waterboarded for the troops? /what does 'for the troops' mean here, exactly?Apr 19 00:27
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_goblincubezzz: they are, although that may have been because the new Doctor seems tall and he had to bend to look the old ones in the eye (as in the latest episode)Apr 19 00:29
schestowitzOmar87: "@schestowitz comparing fs to abstinence is ridiculous. no one's asking people to stop using software! ppl who only use free software or more like people who won't have sex without a condom, this "need" for non-free software's more like "i can't wear one it doesn't feel as good""Apr 19 00:44
schestowitzhttp://280.status.net/notice/45268Apr 19 00:44
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schestowitzhttp://280.status.net/notice/45260 "@schestowitz hey, that's a really good start :) one thing you can do is when you get a new computer, just wipe it clean and put trisquel there. it's going in a better direction than ubuntu, i think- just think of it as "mint, only free""Apr 19 00:45
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @ishtarmuz RT @TelegraphNews: Volcanic ash cloud: British Airways fly in the face of ban http://bit.ly/caPkXs <- nice pun :)Apr 19 00:53
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @BostonBoomer @ronaldjackson US Lawmakers Held Hidden Offshore Accounts http://twurl.nl/dezcci //#UBS in bed w/both parties pre-electionApr 19 01:04
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] @_Goblin Don't know how many MVPs follow me. Never checked. Never asked.Apr 19 01:06
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @noahvail >@hhavrilesky You and Terry Colon were the reason we all read #Suck. I thought everyone knew that // I second that.Apr 19 01:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] The 50 best author vs. author put-downs of all time - this list is a hoot! http://bit.ly/9w1Tr5Apr 19 01:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Eyjafjallajökull, I think I love you.Apr 19 01:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Blair stranded due to volcanic cloud? I'd prefer to read that he fell into active volcano. BA, can you get this done? http://bit.ly/caPkXsApr 19 01:16
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @ishtarmuz Monsanto #Anniston contamination investigated 30yrs late http://tinyurl.com/y8l4sp4 #lead #mercury #chlorine #pcbs #pollutionApr 19 02:01
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'Finley lowered bluegill into the effluent and watched them actually jump out of their skin' #monsanto #pollution http://tinyurl.com/y8l4sp4Apr 19 02:04
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'no records were found showing how the company disposed of the #lead' #monsanto #pollution http://tinyurl.com/y8l4sp4 #mercury #pcbsApr 19 02:05
TechrightsBotTitle: Mercury Pollution Monsanto contamination now gets scrutiny after 30 yearsElizabeth Bluemink / Anniston Star (AL) 20jul01 .::. Size~: 47.82 KBApr 19 02:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'recorded #mercury waste stream from the #Anniston plant: 570 POUNDS per month' #monsanto #pollution #alabama http://tinyurl.com/y8l4sp4Apr 19 02:07
TechrightsBotTitle: Mercury Pollution Monsanto contamination now gets scrutiny after 30 yearsElizabeth Bluemink / Anniston Star (AL) 20jul01 .::. Size~: 47.82 KBApr 19 02:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Now imagine the virtually unregulated, present-day toxic output of industrial #China. #walmartApr 19 02:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #China is essentially a portrait of what the West would have become, with no environmental regulation. #greedApr 19 02:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Marketing Executive and #Microsoft Vice President Both Leave Microsoft http://ur1.ca/vse0 #exodusApr 19 02:20
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Takes the Arab World to the Back Room, Then to Court http://ur1.ca/vshb #dubai #uae #kuwaitApr 19 02:54
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Omar87schestowitz, pingApr 19 02:59
Omar87schestowitz, what were you talking about? (In your message about FS and abstinence, I mean)Apr 19 03:02
Omar87schestowitz, Okay, thanks. I just read that message again and I got your idea.Apr 19 03:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Samsung Electronics signs a #DRM deal with #Microsoft , on top of the #Linux #patent deal http://ur1.ca/vso4Apr 19 03:21
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schestowitzHEy, Omar87Apr 19 03:44
schestowitz"@schestowitz Microsoft marketing is an oxymoron, and is run by a moron." http://identi.ca/conversation/29005021#notice-29067775Apr 19 03:44
schestowitz:-DApr 19 03:44
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Navigating #osx package creation. Been making #software for it for years, but never needed to make an installer.Apr 19 03:45
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Lovely afternoon walk on a nice sunny Sunday. :-)Apr 19 03:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] New Ubuntu Weekly News - http://is.gd/byL0uApr 19 03:51
TechrightsBotTitle: UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue189 - Ubuntu Wiki .::. Size~: 288.5 KBApr 19 03:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Great blog from Melissa about the World Play Day Competition - http://is.gd/byL4p - go get involved!Apr 19 03:53
TechrightsBotTitle: Poster for the World Play Day competition «  Geekosophical .::. Size~: 29.67 KBApr 19 03:53
Omar87schestowitz, hi. Apr 19 03:56
Omar87schestowitz, but was that message about FS and abstinence a response to my previous question?Apr 19 03:57
cubezzz"the next generation of gadgets kids will grow up with won't even have root access to their computing devices. *cough* iPad *cough*."Apr 19 04:03
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schestowitzOmar87: I'm not sureApr 19 04:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Xbox 360 Still Failing for Half of #Microsoft ’s Customers as Company Sails Abroad for Savings http://ur1.ca/vt3qApr 19 04:07
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cubezzzI'm hearing some talk that BSD is better documented than LinuxApr 19 04:08
cubezzzand that a lot of the Linux man pages are out of dateApr 19 04:08
cubezzzoh well :)Apr 19 04:10
cubezzzI blame Microsoft for taking over the schoolsApr 19 04:11
cubezzzand lazy Linux dudes who don't write docsApr 19 04:12
cubezzzdual cpu is nice when your converting mp3 to oggApr 19 04:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New index: "Microsoft - Sweatshops" < http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_Sweatshops >Apr 19 04:13
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Looking for a cool and fun icon for PyJunior - http://is.gd/byM4M - anyone want to create one?Apr 19 04:16
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Can we just arrest the domestic terrorists already? http://ur1.ca/vt8aApr 19 04:23
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] More about SEC vs GS: http://ur1.ca/vt96 http://ur1.ca/vt97 http://ur1.ca/vt99 http://ur1.ca/vt9b http://ur1.ca/vt9dApr 19 04:28
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TechrightsBotTitle: Top Goldman Leaders Said to Have Overseen Mortgage Unit - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 74.88 KBApr 19 04:28
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TechrightsBotTitle: Scenarios: Charged. For Goldman, how bad could this get?| Reuters .::. Size~: 65.28 KBApr 19 04:28
Omar87lol, http://i.imgur.com/88Jgz.jpgApr 19 04:30
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schestowitzThe smell of freedomApr 19 04:45
schestowitzGangsters SachsApr 19 04:45
cubezzzSachstersApr 19 04:45
schestowitzBathing themselves in buckets of filthy coinsApr 19 04:46
schestowitzThey messed up GreeceApr 19 04:46
schestowitzMy dad reckons they did the same in the UK and weren't exposed yetApr 19 04:46
schestowitzOne of the major papers here had the guts to allege it but not provide evidence yetApr 19 04:46
schestowitzCalifornia is also said to be a victimApr 19 04:47
schestowitzAnd their to-be governor (probably the ebay lady) is linked to GSApr 19 04:47
cubezzzIreland was/is kind of messed upApr 19 04:47
cubezzzPortugal, Italy, Greece and Spain?Apr 19 04:47
cubezzzeverything under the tableApr 19 04:48
cubezzzyou're up pretty late tonightApr 19 04:49
cubezzzwhat is it over here, 4 am?Apr 19 04:49
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/29012718#notice-29074655 "@schestowitz my youngest thinks it is the size of the case... overheating causing their problems"Apr 19 04:52
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schestowitz[re xbox, yes, it's a design issue]Apr 19 04:52
schestowitzcubezzz: yes, not tired yetApr 19 04:52
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/29013080#notice-29073670 "@schestowitz re Microsoft - Sweatshops, nice addition. I suspect that you are barely scratching the surface."Apr 19 04:53
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schestowitzI've only made a startApr 19 04:53
schestowitzI ought to merge this with older postsApr 19 04:53
schestowitzI might try doing 30 posts today...?Apr 19 04:57
schestowitzNew record?Apr 19 04:57
schestowitzI'm getting to longer posts now... tiring and less funApr 19 04:58
Ender2070[22:54] <cubezzz> I'm hearing some talk that BSD is better documented than LinuxApr 19 05:01
Ender2070largely because every feature is discussed at length and takes about a year to implementApr 19 05:01
Ender2070its hard to document something which has a significant daily rate of changeApr 19 05:02
cubezzzthat's trueApr 19 05:03
Ender2070http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3385088017824733336#Apr 19 05:04
TechrightsBotTitle: Greg Kroah-Hartman Linux Plumbers Keynote .::. Size~: 37 KBApr 19 05:04
cubezzzEnder2070, I'm having fun looking at /usr/src/linux-2.4.22-1.2199.nptl/arch/m68k/amigaApr 19 05:08
Ender2070lolApr 19 05:09
schestowitzDo they backport the curse words to 2.4?Apr 19 05:10
cubezzzcurse words?Apr 19 05:12
cubezzzok, this is humours... evidently AMIX source was lost when some noob installed win 3.1 on the wrong computerApr 19 05:13
cubezzzhumourous evenApr 19 05:13
Ender2070hahahahahahahahahaApr 19 05:13
Ender2070windows really does killApr 19 05:14
cubezzzstill, extra noob points for no backupsApr 19 05:14
Ender2070heyApr 19 05:14
Ender2070what business makes backups?Apr 19 05:14
Ender2070roflApr 19 05:14
Ender2070computers never dieApr 19 05:14
cubezzzthey don't seem to do it very oftenApr 19 05:15
Ender2070heheheApr 19 05:15
Ender2070you dont know how many business customers i had to tell should've been making backupsApr 19 05:15
Ender2070had to tell to make backupsApr 19 05:15
cubezzzI'm not sure about the longevity of my amiga 3.5" disksApr 19 05:16
Ender2070i had so many come in demanding 1 hour turnarounds (or less than 24 hours) because their pc was "mission critical"Apr 19 05:16
Ender2070im like "why dont you have backups of 'mission critical' machines?"Apr 19 05:16
cubezzzwell then they have to pay more $$$ :)Apr 19 05:16
Ender2070nah we didnt do anything in less than 24 hoursApr 19 05:17
cubezzzwell it would really put you on the spotApr 19 05:17
Ender2070yeah it does too much stressApr 19 05:17
Ender2070not worth the extra dollar or two on my paychequeApr 19 05:17
Ender2070eventually the place fucked us all on our comissionApr 19 05:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft #Malaysia and Malaysian Apologists Lobby Against Malaysia’s Independence http://ur1.ca/vtiiApr 19 05:18
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Malaysia Good nightApr 19 05:18
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cubezzzI can't find an Amiga Linux distro (yet)Apr 19 05:19
cubezzzAMIX, no way I'm touching thatApr 19 05:19
cubezzzI'll probably go with the NetBSD portApr 19 05:20
cubezzz"will not run on A500, A600, A1000, A1200, A2000, A4000/EC030, CDTV or CD32"Apr 19 05:21
Ender2070there is a NetBSD port to my dreamcastApr 19 05:23
cubezzzcoolApr 19 05:23
Ender2070people broke the boot code too, no need for a mod chipApr 19 05:24
cubezzzI doubt the hardware is well documentedApr 19 05:24
Ender2070LOLApr 19 05:24
Ender2070okApr 19 05:24
Ender2070http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DreamcastApr 19 05:24
cubezzzsounds like crazy guys doing reverse engineeringApr 19 05:24
TechrightsBotTitle: Dreamcast - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 85.19 KBApr 19 05:24
Ender2070its one of the most popular consoles for homebrew appsApr 19 05:25
cubezzzinterestingApr 19 05:25
Ender2070The system's processor is a 200 MHz SH-4 with an on-die 128-bit vector graphics engine, 360 MIPS and 1.4 GFLOPS (single precision), using the vector graphics engine. The graphics hardware is a PowerVR2 CLX2 chipset, capable of 7.0 million polygons/second peak performance and trilinear filtering. Graphics hardware effects include gouraud shading, z-buffering, anti-aliasing, per-pixel translucency sorting and bump mapping.Apr 19 05:25
cubezzzhow much does a dreamcast cost?Apr 19 05:25
Ender2070its quite dead, probably cheapApr 19 05:25
Ender2070faster than your p3Apr 19 05:25
cubezzzouch! ;-)Apr 19 05:26
Ender2070http://cgi.ebay.ca/Brand-New-Sega-Dreamcast-System-Console-Dream-Cast_W0QQitemZ180495505754QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_Games?hash=item2a065ed95aApr 19 05:26
TechrightsBotTitle: Brand New Sega Dreamcast System Console Dream Cast on eBay.ca (item 180495505754 end time  17-May-10 21:59:28 EDT) .::. Size~: 71.92 KBApr 19 05:26
Ender2070$89 brand newApr 19 05:26
Ender2070damnApr 19 05:26
cubezzzhrmmmApr 19 05:26
cubezzzok, but... can you really get docs for it?Apr 19 05:26
cubezzzRISC too, interestingApr 19 05:27
Ender2070http://www.dcemu.co.uk/Apr 19 05:27
cubezzzI had a Sega Saturn for a whileApr 19 05:27
cubezzzhow about Linux on dreamcast?Apr 19 05:28
Ender2070http://linuxdc.sourceforge.net/Apr 19 05:28
TechrightsBotTitle: LinuxDC: Linux for the Sega Dreamcast .::. Size~: 4.43 KBApr 19 05:28
Ender2070been a few years since i've looked into thisApr 19 05:29
Ender2070i replaced my dreamcast with a gamecube and then a wiiApr 19 05:29
Ender2070gamecube and wii have linuxApr 19 05:29
Ender2070the wii has a softmod which uses linux to hack itApr 19 05:29
Ender2070i was thinking of making a gameboy advance gameApr 19 05:31
Ender2070theres a C video tutorial which shows howApr 19 05:32
cubezzzis Sega still alive?Apr 19 05:32
Ender2070yeah they make nintendo games nowApr 19 05:33
Ender2070:)Apr 19 05:33
cubezzzahh, they admitted defeat in the hardware warsApr 19 05:33
cubezzzI still remember their first arcade gamesApr 19 05:34
cubezzzCongo Bongo :)Apr 19 05:34
cubezzzand Astron Belt was pretty coolApr 19 05:35
Ender2070i knew nintendo would destroy themApr 19 05:36
Ender2070sega had to bring microsoft into itApr 19 05:38
Ender2070nintendo brought sony into itApr 19 05:38
Ender2070the playstation was originally supposed to be just a cd-rom addon for the snes to compete with the sega cdApr 19 05:38
Ender2070it was a joint nintendo/sony project. nintendo got rid of the plans once sony started giving away free dev kits for itApr 19 05:39
cubezzzyeah I rememberApr 19 05:39
Ender2070sega brought microsoft into it by making them interested in the console dreamcastApr 19 05:39
Ender2070dreamcast ran windows ceApr 19 05:39
cubezzzughApr 19 05:40
Ender2070tho, the homebrew firmware doesnt use the sega sdk (windows ce bullshit)Apr 19 05:40
Ender2070errApr 19 05:40
Ender2070homebrew appsApr 19 05:40
cubezzzummm, dreamcast doesn't seem to have a hard driveApr 19 05:40
Ender2070no it doesntApr 19 05:40
cubezzzexternal hd?Apr 19 05:40
Ender2070uses solid state flash for storageApr 19 05:41
cubezzzno usb ports?Apr 19 05:41
Ender2070or GD-RomsApr 19 05:41
Ender2070(1GB CD's)Apr 19 05:41
Ender2070no usb ports but you can get an adapter that turns one of the 4 controller ports into standard usbApr 19 05:41
cubezzzahApr 19 05:41
cubezzzyuck, I don't want windows ceApr 19 05:42
Ender2070you could probably get a more functional pc out of an old ps2Apr 19 05:42
cubezzzI have an eduquest right here :)Apr 19 05:42
Ender2070300mhz, so its faster evenApr 19 05:42
Ender20702 usb portsApr 19 05:42
Ender2070dvd driveApr 19 05:42
Ender2070hard driveApr 19 05:43
Ender2070etcApr 19 05:43
Ender2070network portApr 19 05:43
cubezzzOH, You mean sony, not Ibm :)Apr 19 05:43
Ender2070sony even sold a linux kit for this thingApr 19 05:43
cubezzzPS/2 is pretty ancient :)Apr 19 05:43
cubezzzinterestingApr 19 05:43
Ender2070nah playstation 2Apr 19 05:43
cubezzzI'm not sure I can do anything with this 486SLC :-/Apr 19 05:45
cubezzzit's got serial and parallel and keyboard and mouseApr 19 05:46
cubezzzpretty oldApr 19 05:46
cubezzzplus the cdrom doesn't workApr 19 05:46
cubezzzbasically a clunkApr 19 05:46
Omar87schestowitz: Another great Mono-free distro is Crunchbang. Check it out: http://crunchbanglinux.org/Apr 19 05:47
TechrightsBotTitle: CrunchBang Linux - A nimble Openbox Linux distro .::. Size~: 19.08 KBApr 19 05:47
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Car registered to Illinois Senate involved in DUI citation http://ur1.ca/vtoi #douchebagApr 19 06:33
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Ender2070cubezzz - ever play any BBS door games?Apr 19 06:36
Ender2070http://homeward.homestead.com/Apr 19 06:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] USA reputation is recovering from the Bush years http://is.gd/byTjcApr 19 06:51
TechrightsBotTitle: BBC News - World warming to US under Obama, BBC poll suggests .::. Size~: 47.4 KBApr 19 06:51
Ender2070i miss BBS systemsApr 19 06:59
MinceRBulletin Board System Systems? :>Apr 19 07:05
Diablo-D3ATM machinesApr 19 07:06
Diablo-D3sat testsApr 19 07:06
MinceRPIN numbersApr 19 07:06
MinceRLCD displaysApr 19 07:06
Diablo-D3isbn numberApr 19 07:06
Diablo-D3lan networkApr 19 07:06
Diablo-D3upc codeApr 19 07:06
MinceRthere might be some BBS-es accessible over telnet, thoughApr 19 07:06
Diablo-D3scsi interfaceApr 19 07:06
Diablo-D3MinceR: there areApr 19 07:06
MinceRbut i prefer Internet services nowadays :>Apr 19 07:06
Diablo-D3some larger ones have telnet gatewaysApr 19 07:06
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Diablo-D3oh, dmz zoneApr 19 07:07
MinceR:>Apr 19 07:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[tracyrreed] Are gmail passwords being dictionary attacked/brute forced or is a new virus sniffing keyboards of Windows users or just stealing sessions?Apr 19 07:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Hugely popular IPL claims first big political wicket. http://is.gd/byUk1Apr 19 07:14
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @tracyrreed You mean like this? http://tinyurl.com/y2qcwrrApr 19 07:15
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Ender2070[01:52] <MinceR> Bulletin Board System Systems? :>Apr 19 07:17
Ender2070yesApr 19 07:17
Ender2070some of them are still onlineApr 19 07:17
Ender2070BBS's had a unique feel to them, very non corporateApr 19 07:17
MinceRdepends on whose BBS :>Apr 19 07:18
Ender2070well sureApr 19 07:18
Ender2070the thing is, anyone could run one with a phone lineApr 19 07:18
Ender2070lots of hobby systemsApr 19 07:18
Ender2070now you gotta pay just to be online, gotta pay for a server/host if you want a site (without ads) and then you have to watch ads on other sites or find ways to circumvent the adsApr 19 07:19
Ender2070i think im inspired right nowApr 19 07:20
Ender2070im going to write a text based bbs-door-style game and have it run standalone over the telnet protocolApr 19 07:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Come and join us at the Ubuntu California Lucid Release Party at the Thirsty Bear in San Fran on Thu 29th Apr - http://is.gd/byUGJ #ubuntuApr 19 07:21
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Ender2070just because it would be cool lolApr 19 07:22
MinceRoracle being clueless >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/ogb-discuss/2010-April/007767.htmlApr 19 07:26
MinceRi'm not going to miss slowlaris anyway :>Apr 19 07:27
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] The guy who ruined Macross in the US is now dead http://ur1.ca/vttuApr 19 07:28
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Ender2070zfs is a killer feature thoughApr 19 07:29
Ender2070can't deny thatApr 19 07:29
MinceRapparently it isn't killer enoughApr 19 07:29
Ender2070people still think hardware raid = betterApr 19 07:30
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Diablo-D3Ender2070: btrfs > zfs thoughApr 19 08:17
Ender2070not yetApr 19 08:17
Ender2070andApr 19 08:17
Ender2070they'll never make the fs do what zfs doesApr 19 08:17
Ender2070not 100%Apr 19 08:18
Diablo-D3you do realize the zfs team is merging with the btrfs team, right?Apr 19 08:18
Ender2070they dislike the fact that it handles so much stuff like file sharing over networks, etcApr 19 08:18
Ender2070i didnt know thatApr 19 08:18
Diablo-D3they also have a version of their in place zfs upgrade program that in place upgrades zfs to btrfsApr 19 08:18
Diablo-D3its internal thoughApr 19 08:18
Ender2070actually that will kick assApr 19 08:19
Diablo-D3and they have solaris booting on btrfs as if it was zfs, with all features intactApr 19 08:19
Diablo-D3also internalApr 19 08:19
Ender2070where are you getting this info?Apr 19 08:19
Diablo-D3I know sun employees.Apr 19 08:19
Ender2070interesting, thats badassApr 19 08:20
Ender2070i have a fileserver with zfs on it right nowApr 19 08:20
Diablo-D3remember, btrfs was created to be, ultimately, zfs on linuxApr 19 08:20
Ender2070i do rememberApr 19 08:20
Diablo-D3its designed internally pretty similarApr 19 08:20
Ender2070but there was one issue they didnt like iircApr 19 08:20
Diablo-D3obviously its not binary compatible, but *shrug*Apr 19 08:20
Ender2070which was the LVM redundancyApr 19 08:20
Ender2070they didnt want the filesystem doing so muchApr 19 08:21
Diablo-D3the redundancy is that LVM doesnt support the shitApr 19 08:21
Ender2070yeah i knowApr 19 08:21
Diablo-D3the only reason ZFS implemented it was because solaris's equiv to lvm couldnt do no-write-hole raid and it couldnt be notified of empty blocks (as to not sync them)Apr 19 08:21
Ender2070i like the fact that zfs controls cifs sharingApr 19 08:21
Diablo-D3they implemented a much better file cache system tooApr 19 08:21
Ender2070cifs/nfs sharingApr 19 08:22
Diablo-D3zfs's shit would have eventually replaced solaris's own code for thatApr 19 08:22
Ender2070ahhhApr 19 08:22
Diablo-D3since it was superiorApr 19 08:22
Diablo-D3any fs that could take advantage of those things would have been able to plug in to itApr 19 08:22
Ender2070oh for sureApr 19 08:22
Ender2070its just super easyApr 19 08:23
Ender2070lolApr 19 08:23
Diablo-D3well, it'd just be API callsApr 19 08:23
Ender2070even automatic as i added filesystems to the poolApr 19 08:23
Diablo-D3and the file cache thing obviously would apply to any fsApr 19 08:23
Ender2070yeahApr 19 08:23
Ender2070im definately looking forward to btrfsApr 19 08:23
Diablo-D3the most important things in zfs, btrfs already doesApr 19 08:24
Ender2070i'll be using it for my desktop and laptop in F13Apr 19 08:24
Diablo-D3like, actual real honest to god error detection Apr 19 08:24
Ender2070F13 has btrfs snapshot support in its package manager and in grub i thinkApr 19 08:25
Ender2070https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemRollbackWithBtrfsApr 19 08:25
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Diablo-D3yeah I sawApr 19 08:26
Ender2070should make it into ubuntu by 12.04 maybeApr 19 08:26
Diablo-D3wellApr 19 08:26
Diablo-D3Im not interested in fulltime btrfs usage until like 2.6.4xApr 19 08:26
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Ender2070more stable then?Apr 19 08:27
Diablo-D3yeahApr 19 08:27
Diablo-D3its not even officially stable yetApr 19 08:27
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Ender2070fedora generally uses the latest stable kernel, even after release they updateApr 19 08:27
Ender2070so im sure f13 will be solid with itApr 19 08:27
Ender2070i was hearing that btrfs is supposed to be stable soon tooApr 19 08:28
Ender2070hence why fedora is getting it ready, f13 might be used as a base for RHEL 6Apr 19 08:28
Ender2070at least those are my thoughtsApr 19 08:29
Ender2070http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_3DSApr 19 08:33
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Ender2070speculation: nvidia tegra / armApr 19 08:33
Diablo-D3thats not much a speculationApr 19 08:33
Diablo-D3you do realize nintendo has used ARM in a shitload of their products, right?Apr 19 08:34
Ender2070it kind of is, they say the SDK is similar to the gamecubeApr 19 08:34
Diablo-D3the GBA was arm, the DS had two arms, the gamecube had a arm hidden away, the wii has an arm hidden away as wellApr 19 08:35
Ender2070yeahApr 19 08:35
Ender2070the wii and gamecube's used ibm gecko's for the main cpuApr 19 08:36
Diablo-D3the wii and gamecube are very similar hardware in a lot of respectsApr 19 08:36
Ender2070think its possible for a mobile gecko?Apr 19 08:36
Diablo-D3well, its just a somewhat generic ppc chipApr 19 08:36
Ender2070extremely tiny and power friendly, back when gamecube first came outApr 19 08:37
Diablo-D3they could do one of freescales' embedded ppcsApr 19 08:37
Ender2070since 2001 a lot could be doneApr 19 08:37
Diablo-D3its easier just to use ARMApr 19 08:37
Ender2070perhapsApr 19 08:37
Ender2070yeahApr 19 08:37
Diablo-D3tegra 2 is just a rather generic cortex A9 dual coreApr 19 08:38
Ender2070im definately getting one when its out thoughApr 19 08:38
Ender2070apparently the pokemon company already has a sdkApr 19 08:38
Diablo-D3well yeah, its nintendoApr 19 08:38
Ender2070its a 2nd partyApr 19 08:39
Ender2070yeahApr 19 08:39
Diablo-D3its not really... 2nd partyApr 19 08:39
Ender2070its not main NintendoApr 19 08:39
Diablo-D3its just a studioApr 19 08:39
Ender2070yeahApr 19 08:39
Ender2070i consider that 2nd partyApr 19 08:39
Ender2070its a seperately registered companyApr 19 08:39
Diablo-D3sega and sony have fully owned internal studios like thatApr 19 08:39
Ender2070just like Rare used to be a 2nd partyApr 19 08:39
Ender2070full support from NintendoApr 19 08:39
Diablo-D3well, you know who creatures, inc. are, right?Apr 19 08:40
Diablo-D3they used to be known as APEApr 19 08:40
Ender2070yeahApr 19 08:41
Diablo-D3as in, the guys who made earthboundApr 19 08:41
Ender2070which was a wicked gameApr 19 08:41
Ender2070my fav for snesApr 19 08:41
Diablo-D3it was a lengthy acid tripApr 19 08:41
Diablo-D3and fun as hellApr 19 08:41
Ender2070much better than FF and shitApr 19 08:41
Diablo-D3but yeah, both game freak and creatures inc are both nintendo studiosApr 19 08:42
Ender2070you're right, it seems only urbandictionary agrees with my term 2nd partyApr 19 08:42
Ender2070http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=2nd%20partyApr 19 08:42
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Diablo-D32nd party is weirdApr 19 08:42
Diablo-D3it has no formal legal meaningApr 19 08:42
Ender2070correctApr 19 08:42
Diablo-D32nd party is probably more correct thoughApr 19 08:43
Diablo-D3because they actually have namesApr 19 08:43
Ender2070HAL Labs are awesome tooApr 19 08:43
Diablo-D3nintendo has studios that dont have namesApr 19 08:43
Ender2070they made kirby/super smash brosApr 19 08:43
Diablo-D3like, they have at least four teams just known as R&D#Apr 19 08:44
Ender2070i think creatures inc/ape helped smash brosApr 19 08:44
Diablo-D3well, hadApr 19 08:44
Diablo-D3they all merged into EADApr 19 08:44
Diablo-D3but all the core nintendo titles have been done by these guysApr 19 08:44
Diablo-D3mario, zelda, f-zero, star foxApr 19 08:44
Ender2070new mario bros wii = fantasticApr 19 08:45
Ender2070last starfox i enjoyed was for N64Apr 19 08:45
Diablo-D3the last one I enjoyed was on the snesApr 19 08:45
Ender2070i liked zelda windwaker more than twilight princess, oddly enoughApr 19 08:45
Diablo-D3I liked zelda 3Apr 19 08:47
Diablo-D3:DApr 19 08:47
Ender2070i did tooApr 19 08:47
Ender2070thats the best oneApr 19 08:47
Ender2070all the ones after it removed the ability to get a better swordApr 19 08:48
Ender2070oh wait, other than ocarina of timeApr 19 08:48
Ender2070biggoron's sword wouldn't let you use your shield thoughApr 19 08:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@nataliecastoro why is everyone right handed // I don't know off the top of my head, but I am certain that @richarddawkins knowsApr 19 08:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Imp Notice - I have changed my profile name - my new twitter profile is http://twitter.com/nsisodiya Use nsisodiya instead of eduvid plz RTApr 19 09:16
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Nasty limit to collect 1 million signatures against software patents in Europe, limited to within 12 months: http://ur1.ca/vu9qApr 19 09:21
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Ender2070i wonder if pokemon black & white is 3DS or just DSApr 19 09:22
Ender2070considering they have the 3DS sdk and they are making another gameApr 19 09:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Great. Screencasting in Ubuntu 10.04 just got harder. Bug in ffmpeg makes transcoding fail. http://bit.ly/ab8LN2Apr 19 09:38
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amarsh04http://publicacta.org.nz/Apr 19 09:46
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Waggener Edstrom and #Microsoft ’s Government Insider Defend the Company’s Reluctance to Pay #Tax http://ur1.ca/vudtApr 19 09:56
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft ’s American EDGI Proceeds to State of the Tax Dodge (Nevada), Kentucky, and More http://ur1.ca/vudtApr 19 10:06
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Of course now I realise that my drobo isn't going to arrive from Germany this week is it.Apr 19 10:16
satiperamorning allApr 19 10:19
satiperaschestowitz, listened to the skeptoid on evolution and religion, quite interestingApr 19 10:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft May be Lying to Dissociate Itself from #Kyrgyzstan Fiasco http://ur1.ca/vukn #spin #pr #asia #dissentApr 19 10:21
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satiperaBefore I realised he was associated with a TV series the similarities to the Mythbusters format struck meApr 19 10:21
satiperaLooked for a JFK episode disappointed to not find one.Apr 19 10:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] I don't use #Xcode. I use a #Makefile, like Chuck Norris. #cs5 #pluginsApr 19 10:25
amarsh04back in a few, restarting X serverApr 19 10:41
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Seeds of #Microsoft in Retail Innovation Group, Glympse, WPP Group, and JWT New York http://ur1.ca/vup1 #pr #spinApr 19 10:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Some more clarification on my comment on osscamp community manager http://post.ly/bXAlApr 19 10:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] wow, he is a good politician, he put community on me to save himself. :)Apr 19 10:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] UK General Election. Green Party support FOSS and oppose software patents. http://is.gd/bz5L0Apr 19 11:04
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] You might take your point of view too far today, which could b... More for Aquarius http://twittascope.com/?sign=11Apr 19 11:20
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schestowitzsatipera: yes, it's niceApr 19 11:37
schestowitz[10:24] <satipera> Looked for a JFK episode disappointed to not find one.Apr 19 11:38
schestowitzHe mentions itApr 19 11:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] There's always a mixture between fear and pride when one logs into a machine and sees: up 1397 days, 58 minApr 19 11:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The latest set of examples where articles in the press are actually Microsoft spin, sometimes sourced by #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/vuzzApr 19 11:53
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Page on #Microsoft #AstroTurfing just updated and expanded http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/AstroTurfingApr 19 11:54
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Hah! Take that #ashtag. My drobo arrived from Germany this morning! Even better, it looks like a newer/upgraded one :DApr 19 12:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@gilescoren why not sail to #Greece? Read a book on the way. #EyjafjallajökullApr 19 12:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Florian Mueller is not an open source activist. He is a lobbyist who will say whatever someone pays him to say http://ur1.ca/vib0Apr 19 12:30
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] IBM vs. Hercules: defending open source: One open source project's fight against patent attacks http://ibmvshercules.com/Apr 19 12:32
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schestowitzE-mail input: Apr 19 12:40
schestowitz> Re: try and find something negative to say about Open Source :)Apr 19 12:40
schestowitz>Apr 19 12:40
schestowitz> a. No one uses LinuxApr 19 12:40
schestowitz> Apr 19 12:40
schestowitz> Hitachi and the phone makers move to LinuxApr 19 12:40
schestowitz> Apr 19 12:40
schestowitz> b. The Linux base is fragmentingApr 19 12:40
schestowitz> Apr 19 12:40
schestowitz> Linux developers are the most experienced on the planet ..Apr 19 12:40
schestowitz> Apr 19 12:40
schestowitz> c. Linux developers are all old.Apr 19 12:40
schestowitz> Apr 19 12:40
schestowitz> "Why Linux Is Not Attracting Young Developers"Apr 19 12:40
schestowitz> Apr 19 12:40
schestowitz> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/04/18/1557220/Why-Linux-Is-Not-Attracting-Young-DevelopersApr 19 12:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The #SEC is Going After #Microsoft (Again), Not Just #GoldmanSachs http://ur1.ca/vvaf #finance #fraud #regulation #steveballmerApr 19 13:04
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] via @c0t0d0s0 #WSJ blogs new switch created for #Arista by ex-#Sun #hardware genius #Bechtolsheim http://bit.ly/bTrOej #networkingApr 19 13:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] cooking 2 butterfish fillets. see how this goes, I'm a [fish] cooking noviceApr 19 13:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] rt @glynmoody ACTA: Signature collection for Written Declaration 12 continues - http://bit.ly/aef99I why we still need WD12 #acta #euApr 19 13:51
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: Open Source Drug Discovery - http://bit.ly/9lpDhw #India shows how pharma should be done: in the open, collaboratively #drugsApr 19 14:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Lembra-me o Imposto Microsoft: "there’s a term for requiring that a customer buy one product in order to be allowed to buy another: tying"Apr 19 14:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft #Kin Fails, Aggravates the Public http://ur1.ca/vvo0 Microsoft’s new phones fail to impress anyoneApr 19 14:21
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Now would be a good time to film your next plane based disaster movie or virus outbreak movie in any UK airport..Apr 19 14:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] I left gwibber on for a few days and it ate over half my memoryApr 19 14:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] On way home......via a rather charming small village.Apr 19 14:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How Hewlett-Packard, which is currently under investigation for corruption, charges a premium on #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/vvs3Apr 19 14:54
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How Hewlett-Packard, which is currently under investigation, charges a premium on #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/vvs3Apr 19 14:56
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@tlw3 RT @blogitch @pourmecoffee If #Palin lived in #Iceland, her kids wd be Ash, Plume & Magma // no,no, Iceland has a white *ash* problemApr 19 15:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] G'morning, Internet friends!Apr 19 15:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] “Patent Absurdity” Looking for Translations Amid #Lobbying from Florian Müller and #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/vvut #swpat #TurboHerculesApr 19 15:09
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 85% of #Microsoft #Patent Filings Are for Software Patents http://techrights.org/2010/04/19/patent-absurdity-subtitles-languages/ #swpatApr 19 15:14
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] TalkTalk will continue to battle against these oppressive proposals, credit where it is due #deb http://is.gd/bzjOMApr 19 15:15
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/29062861#notice-29124572 "@schestowitz There is no law preventing HP from charging whhatever they want for !linux. There is a law against bribery, though."Apr 19 15:17
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schestowitzMicrosoft's patent extortion may violate the RICO ActApr 19 15:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Hmm I will try again. TalkTalk will continue to battle against these oppressive proposals, credit where it is due #debill http://is.gd/bzjOMApr 19 15:18
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 18 new blog posts so far today and it's only 3pm. Let's see if I can make 30...Apr 19 15:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] LOL@ BBC NEWS "Dermot at an elevated position here at Heathrow Airport, so he can see just how little is going on" #wasteoftimeApr 19 15:23
schestowitz"@schestowitz OK. I'm not subscribed to the microsoft group, though, so I don't care." http://identi.ca/conversation/29065417#notice-29126977Apr 19 15:41
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schestowitz"@schestowitz steady on, Roy, we don't want your brain exploding..." http://identi.ca/conversation/29065668#notice-29126965Apr 19 15:41
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schestowitz"@schestowitz why shouldn't !GNU !Linux carry a premium? it has more features: wide ability to run, study, modify, & share." http://identi.ca/conversation/29065668#notice-29127116Apr 19 15:42
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schestowitzIt used to have all that without the premium (before HP took over the company)Apr 19 15:42
schestowitz"@glynmoody @schestowitz Whoaah! That is one hell of a workload. I just couldn't generate that much output, even if I got enough ideas." http://identi.ca/conversation/29065668#notice-29127316Apr 19 15:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Watching BBC News online, watching BBC News online, watching BBC News online! http://bit.ly/aWB97PApr 19 15:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Lucid Ubuntu after update is logging out when shut down is selected and activtedApr 19 15:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Paid a #Patent Troll for Patents (Maybe in Vain); #Google and #Yahoo Sue #Xerox http://ur1.ca/vw1qApr 19 15:56
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jwildeboer: Remember SUNs ODF Plugin for MSFT Office? Used to be free? Guess what. ORCL thinks different. http://is.gd/bzlkj 90US$ nowApr 19 16:03
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] #Oracle, you *so* don't understand this business: charging 65€ for 100 #ODF Plugin for MSFT Office is a shot to the foot. http://is.gd/bzlkjApr 19 16:09
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Lucid shut down problem solved on reboot, note to self do not clean keyboard while system is runningApr 19 16:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] ♺ @ruskin147: http://bit.ly/dCHfOC Gizmodo claims it's got hold of a 4g iPhoneApr 19 16:14
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] I am sorry to announce that I am stepping down as co-host of FLOSSWeekly, more at http://is.gd/bzoK3 #flossweeklyApr 19 16:26
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Latest Anti- #Linux FUD: No Young People Allowed http://ur1.ca/vw8z #age #spin #quoteminingApr 19 16:30
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @jonobacon but Randal is also too busyApr 19 16:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @ruiseabra #Oracle, you *so* don't understand this business: charging 65€ for 100 #ODF Plugin for MSFT Office.. http://is.gd/bzlkjApr 19 16:32
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] ♺ @opensourcerer: My partner in crime @alanbelltolc is on R4's "Click On" in 10m (http://is.gd/bzoBH) talking about http://votegeek.org.uk/Apr 19 16:36
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schestowitzOK, 5 more posts now...Apr 19 16:38
schestowitzSo fun..Apr 19 16:38
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Omar87Hi all.Apr 19 16:39
ender2070nice to hear nintendo won against a patent trollApr 19 16:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Smari's site about how Microsoft Skull Fucked Iceland is gone http://is.gd/bzpEs can anyone publish a personal copy of this article plz?thxApr 19 16:42
ender2070lol im such a perfectionistApr 19 16:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] It's not on www.archive.org (already tried there).Apr 19 16:43
ender2070i was going nuts over a few people ending their programs with getchar(); in CApr 19 16:43
satiperahello omar i have just been looking at your last fm playlist :)Apr 19 16:43
ender2070so that the console window would stay open, in winblowsApr 19 16:43
satiperaworse than mineApr 19 16:44
Omar87satipera, my last fm? It's been a long time since I visited that website. I usually go to TheSixtyOne :)Apr 19 16:45
satiperanot stalking :) I was just thinking about the footprints we leave all over the placeApr 19 16:45
satiperaI am behind the timesApr 19 16:45
Omar87satipera, no man. That's alright. :)Apr 19 16:45
satiperaI spotify most of the time with a kill switch for the advertsApr 19 16:46
ender2070satipera - don't put anything on the web unless you assume someone will read/watch/listen to itApr 19 16:46
Omar87satipera, take a look at my TheSixtyOne playlist (LoopHole87). You might enjoy it. ;)Apr 19 16:46
satiperaender2070 I worked that one out but maybe a little too lateApr 19 16:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Found a mirror of Smari's article here (good read, IMHO, Portugal needs bankrupcy to get it's IT fixed): http://is.gd/bzq1dApr 19 16:47
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satiperaomar87 checkingApr 19 16:47
Omar87satipera, sure. :)Apr 19 16:47
ender2070satipera - my dad taught me not to give out my real infoApr 19 16:51
ender2070satipera - hacker culture taught me to use aliasesApr 19 16:52
satiperaender2070 for reasons of privacy I do now too, but if you use the alias long enough it becomes you online if you see what I meanApr 19 16:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] listening to When Will We Learn by David Myles - http://www.thesixtyone.com/s/RNgPZ9CT0lS/ >> Great song! Check it out!Apr 19 16:57
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satiperatrouble with search you must have to registerApr 19 17:00
Omar87satipera, yeah. I guess. However, the website is full awesome hits. You won't lose anything. :-)Apr 19 17:02
Omar87full *of* awesome hits.Apr 19 17:03
Omar87be back in a jiffy.Apr 19 17:03
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satiperaomar87 well no surprise there I looked at your playlist and only recognised one artist/band, that is called a generation gap :)Apr 19 17:08
ender2070satipera - i do know what you mean but that can be rather harmless if you're smartApr 19 17:15
ender2070satipera - political enemies can only target your handleApr 19 17:15
satiperaender2070 I think what you said is right, only say something you would not mind having repeated to you laterApr 19 17:16
satiperaluckily I am in a political jurisdiction where this is not a problem for me, so that only leaves remembering to be politeApr 19 17:17
ender2070yeahApr 19 17:18
ender2070a lot of authors use fake names tooApr 19 17:18
satiperamy normal mode but we all get carried away sometimesApr 19 17:18
ender2070i find a good filter, is if you're mad about anything wait a day before ranting about itApr 19 17:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How the Gates Foundation Makes People “Addicted” to #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/vwgq #gnu #linux #lockinApr 19 17:19
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satiperaIt was interesting reading what goblin had to say about fake names ref his site mvp attention, now you mention fake namesApr 19 17:20
ender2070theres good and bad things that come out from fake namesApr 19 17:20
satiperaif they are used for deceit they get found outApr 19 17:21
ender2070if you go around using a different name on every site yes you're an assholeApr 19 17:21
satiperapeople are not daftApr 19 17:21
ender2070lolApr 19 17:21
ender2070if someone wants to use a fake name though instead of their real name and they stick with that same fake name - im okay with itApr 19 17:22
satiperayes, I only use this one and have bitten my tongue in the past rather than embarrass  myself (usually)Apr 19 17:23
ender2070its nameshifting that people dont likeApr 19 17:23
satiperaI can understand thatApr 19 17:23
ender2070its funny, steven king went by other names to sell extra booksApr 19 17:24
ender2070his publishers didnt want the public to think he was greedyApr 19 17:24
satiperanow that is funny, I assume he was under pressure from his bank manager :)Apr 19 17:24
ender20701 book per year was standard beforeApr 19 17:24
satiperalol he wasApr 19 17:25
ender2070when people found out he had an actual funeral for the fake named authorApr 19 17:25
ender2070lolApr 19 17:25
satiperawell pressure from publisherApr 19 17:25
Omar87-awaysatipera: Actually, I don't know most/any of these bands/artists. :)Apr 19 17:26
ender2070yeahApr 19 17:26
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satiperaI think the one sensible thing that the armchair ms TA said here a while ago was that reputation is the most important thingApr 19 17:27
satiperashame he did not practice what he preachedApr 19 17:27
ender2070speaking of musicApr 19 17:28
ender2070http://www.pwnage.ca/?q=node/41Apr 19 17:28
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satiperaOmar87 I tend to start somewhere at a music website and like most people wander off at randomApr 19 17:28
Omar87satipera, I see.Apr 19 17:29
satiperayou know how it is, bands are grouped together and recommended and before you know it you are somewhere unfamilliarApr 19 17:31
satiperaI would like to know how to rip music from spotifyApr 19 17:32
satiperabut as long as it is here no problemApr 19 17:33
Diablo-D3errrApr 19 17:34
Diablo-D3black eyed peasApr 19 17:34
Diablo-D3free masonsApr 19 17:34
Diablo-D3headexplode.gifApr 19 17:34
ender2070hey just a theoryApr 19 17:34
satiperaI thought thatApr 19 17:34
ender2070lolApr 19 17:34
ender2070I have freemasonic books if you'd like to be proven wrong.Apr 19 17:34
satipera2070 are you a mason?Apr 19 17:35
ender2070no but i could be anytime i wantedApr 19 17:35
ender2070i know a bunchApr 19 17:35
satiperainteresting but secret crowd, tend towards minor corruptionApr 19 17:36
ender2070theres nothing wrong with using the symbolism, doesnt mean they are taking over the worldApr 19 17:36
satiperasome of them majorApr 19 17:36
satiperasome of them harmlessApr 19 17:36
ender2070yeahApr 19 17:36
ender2070you actually can avoid tickets from cops if they belong to the organization tooApr 19 17:37
satiperathey remind be of the NFU :)Apr 19 17:37
ender2070NFU?Apr 19 17:37
satiperaha ha national farmers unionApr 19 17:37
Diablo-D3[12:22:15] <ender2070> theres nothing wrong with using the symbolism, doesnt mean they are taking over the worldApr 19 17:37
Diablo-D3ironicApr 19 17:37
Diablo-D3I said that on identica before you said thatApr 19 17:38
satiperait is an employers organisationApr 19 17:38
ender2070lolApr 19 17:38
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Apparently, everything is a Masonic plan for world domination. Who knew? http://ur1.ca/vwkdApr 19 17:38
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Diablo-D3there we goApr 19 17:38
satiperaagribusiness point to welsh sheep farmers and say we are all having it hardApr 19 17:38
ender2070they might just be fansApr 19 17:39
ender2070or whoever wrote their lyrics wereApr 19 17:39
ender2070i doubt they didApr 19 17:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] New Blog Post | Do You Trust Microsoft To Auto Fix Anything? | The Digital Prism http://tinyurl.com/y2mec66Apr 19 17:39
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satiperalike the (i think p2 lodge) get into mishief and point to all the harmless lodgesApr 19 17:39
ender2070i've been to one of the lodges in HamiltonApr 19 17:40
ender2070i'll post pictures sometimeApr 19 17:40
ender2070Hamilton, OntarioApr 19 17:40
ender2070just gotta take my camera next time I go visit my gfApr 19 17:40
Omar87satipera, are you sure they tend to "minor" corruption only? 'coz I don't think a global and extremely secretive order would be seeking just "minor" corruption.Apr 19 17:41
satiperathey say it is all fund raising, but networking is everything, sort of a more civilised bullingdon clubApr 19 17:41
ender2070the british found freemasonic lodges when they went to indiaApr 19 17:42
ender2070they were already thereApr 19 17:42
satiperaOmar87 I think it varies from innocent to large scale, with most of it small scaleApr 19 17:42
satiperaI did not know that, indian origin?Apr 19 17:43
ender2070noApr 19 17:43
ender2070they were just there before the british wereApr 19 17:43
Omar87satipera: If most of was mere small scale then why would they be so secretive about their actions?Apr 19 17:43
satiperasecrecy makes people feel importantApr 19 17:44
ender2070I'd like access to the freemasonic archivesApr 19 17:44
ender2070and the vatican archivesApr 19 17:44
satiperaender2070 so where did it originateApr 19 17:44
ender2070all kinds of hidden knowledgeApr 19 17:44
Omar87satipera, especially given the fact that a huge number of the world's most influential, rich and famous and smart people where actually freemasons.Apr 19 17:44
ender2070satipera - egypt afaikApr 19 17:44
ender2070satipera - the founder of the USA was a freemasonApr 19 17:45
satiperaegypt, interestingApr 19 17:45
ender2070err first presidentApr 19 17:45
ender2070http://seeker401.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/curiousgeorge4.jpgApr 19 17:45
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ender2070thats his monumentApr 19 17:45
ender2070egypt is where they get pyramids and the eyeApr 19 17:46
satiperasecret societies are often mutual advancement clubsApr 19 17:46
Omar87satipera, Mark Twain, Steve Wozniak, George Washington (who depicted himself as Zeus), Isac Newton, Leonardo da Vinci, Ben Franklin... and a whole lot more.Apr 19 17:46
ender2070Wozniak is a freemason?Apr 19 17:46
satiperaopus dei for instanceApr 19 17:46
ender2070damnApr 19 17:47
satiperaThis does not surprise me in the leastApr 19 17:47
satiperaIt is all about group closure and keeping others outApr 19 17:48
Omar87satipera: If you read some snaps of Manly P. Hall's The Secret Teachings of All Ages, you might change your mind about them being after mere "minor" corruption.Apr 19 17:48
ender2070how do you think a global elite can maintain things?Apr 19 17:48
ender2070a close group of buddiesApr 19 17:48
satiperaOmar87Apr 19 17:48
satiperayou misunderstand meApr 19 17:48
Omar87satipera: Yeah, some of my friends who read Dan Brown's Da Vinci Code couldn't believe that Opus Dei actually exists in reality.Apr 19 17:49
ender2070notice how the environmental movement got hijacked to the point where the World Bank now makes profit from carbon creditsApr 19 17:49
Omar87satipera, can you please clarify?Apr 19 17:49
satiperasome are big time crooks, but not the london lodge whose members famously consist of plumbersApr 19 17:49
ender2070WWF is buying some of the rain forest to sell carbon credits to IndiaApr 19 17:49
ender2070totally a scamApr 19 17:50
Omar87satipera, I see.Apr 19 17:50
satiperaIt is like the honours systemApr 19 17:50
satiperathey throw in a few traffic wardens with minor honours and the big ones go to politicians business men and the mandarinsApr 19 17:51
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satiperaIt is like all football clubs are not equalApr 19 17:52
satiperathe general point is that secrecy is unhealthy for societyApr 19 17:53
Omar87satipera, yeah. This could be part of maintaining their secrecy. By making it nearly impossible to identify their really structure, which makes identifying their real goals even harder.Apr 19 17:53
Omar87satipera, true.Apr 19 17:53
Omar87their *real* structure..Apr 19 17:54
satiperaThe worrying thing is that the people who are tasked to watch such organisations become part of themApr 19 17:54
ender2070you can't even get into the higher levels unless your parents are freemasonsApr 19 17:54
satiperasenior policemen, civil servants etcApr 19 17:55
satiperano of course notApr 19 17:55
Omar87satipera, yeah. That's right.Apr 19 17:55
satiperait is not a meritocracy that is the whole pointApr 19 17:56
satiperabut it is almost impossible to legislate againstApr 19 17:57
Omar87satipera, I see.Apr 19 17:57
satiperaalmost teatime bfnApr 19 17:57
Omar87satipera: Maybe you're right. But I think, from the way I see it, and based on what I've learned about them so far, that what these people is really up to is something far beyond you and me.Apr 19 18:00
Omar87what these people *are* really up to..Apr 19 18:01
ender2070omar87 - i would keep an eye on the united nations, and the foundations backing them upApr 19 18:01
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schestowitzhttp://280.status.net/notice/46701 "@schestowitz what? looking for translations?! if they hadn't chosen ND they wouldn't need to LOOK for them!" What's ND, does anyone here know?Apr 19 18:07
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Omar87schestowitz, hey! 'sup?Apr 19 18:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Gates Foundation Retreats After Being Exposed as Funder of Big #Tobacco http://ur1.ca/vwqaApr 19 18:14
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Read that EULA - you may be surrendering your soul: http://icio.us/lf1kcy /via rahulsundaramApr 19 18:23
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Still no response from the Elive devs either by email or via the site... :( #linux #foss #gnu #eliveApr 19 18:36
Omar87_goblin, hey!Apr 19 18:39
Omar87_goblin, have you linked to my blog yet?Apr 19 18:39
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MinceRwebOS sucks even more than i thought >> http://intrepidusgroup.com/insight/2010/04/webos-examples-of-sms-delivered-injection-flaws/Apr 19 18:54
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Omar87_Goblin, hi!Apr 19 19:06
_GoblinhiApr 19 19:07
_Goblinhow are you?Apr 19 19:07
Omar87_Goblin, how are you?Apr 19 19:07
_GoblinlolApr 19 19:07
_Goblingood...just getting sorted after dinnerApr 19 19:07
Omar87_Goblin, bon appetite. ;)Apr 19 19:08
Omar87_Goblin, have you linked to my blog yet? :DApr 19 19:10
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_Goblinsorry afk for a secondApr 19 19:18
_Goblinnot yet...Apr 19 19:18
_Goblinhavent got my blogroll sorted yetApr 19 19:18
_GoblinI will though....Apr 19 19:18
_Goblinhave you got a logo or something I can put in the sidebar?Apr 19 19:18
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/29144350 "@schestowitz what about other wordpress themes? - concerned about HTML validity? (there should be some good ones - but i'm no WP user)" *Sigh*Apr 19 19:29
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] #Ubuntu CD initial boot screen getting ever more minimalistic! http://bit.ly/aXAbgDApr 19 19:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] What does Kevin Nash think he looks like with that silly hair bleaching......the Band look like a bunch of street drinkers....yawn #tnaApr 19 19:32
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @dontgetfooled Imagine how bad Tory ratings if they couldn't use #libel law to suppress the truth about their donors?http://bit.ly/ao56N0Apr 19 19:40
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MinceRwhat does the "keyboard = guy in bubble" formula mean?Apr 19 19:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Monsanto Plants Its Lies in the #Gates Foundation-funded #NPR http://ur1.ca/vx6m #gmo #patents #monopoly #africaApr 19 19:44
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schestowitzload average: 10.97, 7.72, 5.52Apr 19 19:56
schestowitzToo many posts todayApr 19 19:56
schestowitzServer loaded with too many requests, even with proxy onApr 19 19:56
schestowitzI can barely write postsApr 19 19:57
schestowitzI'm going for a personal record of 30 posts in one dayApr 19 19:57
ThistleWebschestowitz: I dunno how you do itApr 19 19:57
ThistleWebI try to aim for a blog post every day or two on average, although I've slipped back quite a bit recentlyApr 19 19:58
ThistleWebbut every time I refresh my feeds, there's another handfull from youApr 19 19:58
Omar87schestowitz, heyApr 19 20:03
schestowitzEnder2070_: did you see the tobacco fiasco in CanadaApr 19 20:05
schestowitzBillG funded itApr 19 20:05
schestowitzOmar87: heyApr 19 20:05
schestowitzThistleWeb: I was gonna link to your latest piece laterApr 19 20:05
schestowitz"peice"->"pieceApr 19 20:06
ThistleWebcoolApr 19 20:06
schestowitzJust seen that typoApr 19 20:06
schestowitzFirst setenceApr 19 20:06
ThistleWebtypo in my post?Apr 19 20:06
Omar87_Goblin, nope. No logos. At least not yet. But maybe soon.Apr 19 20:07
_Goblinok...if you had a logo I could place it in my sidebar nowApr 19 20:07
Omar87_Goblin, once I make a logo, I will let you know. No problem. ^^Apr 19 20:14
schestowitzThistleWeb: yes.Apr 19 20:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] For a long time, the image on the Conservapedia article on "Homo sapiens" was a picture of ... http://is.gd/bzCueApr 19 20:14
schestowitzIt says "peice",no big dealApr 19 20:14
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ThistleWebwill fix itApr 19 20:14
ThistleWebtyApr 19 20:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Ina Fried Receives #Microsoft Payback as Gates’ Reputation Laundering Tour Kicks Off in US Colleges http://ur1.ca/vxbf #prApr 19 20:15
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ThistleWebit's fixed, along with a couple of other Micorosft typos I missed earlierApr 19 20:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Tarver and Young need to be the first to go from NXT .Sheffield surprised me with a glimmer of charisma in recent episode.... #wwe #nxt #Apr 19 20:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @PartidoPirataPT: RT @divasantos: Industry reacts to ACTA announcement - V3.co.uk - formerly vnunet.com: http://bit.ly/aw8uhC #ACTAApr 19 20:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Preview of SchoolOS 1.0 beta 1 (test 5.1) Dated 19April2010 - http://schoolos.org/schoolos.gif #linux #foss #distro #schoolApr 19 20:39
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Bill Gates — Just Like #Microsoft — Incompatible With #Tax Law http://ur1.ca/vxh0 #charity #petcharityApr 19 20:43
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Omar87_Goblin, I really loved the match between Hart Dynasty-Mysterio and SES.Apr 19 20:45
Omar87_Goblin, never expected that I would enjoy watching Hart Dynasty as much as I did in that match! :DApr 19 20:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Is it online? @ctxlkenApr 19 20:49
Omar87schestowitz, Ina Fried never ceased to turn my guts.Apr 19 20:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] My brother's second video is quite cool. Thank you gecko-mplayer for making my life easy for saving web clips. http://www.vimeo.com/8454096Apr 19 20:55
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @sflc: New documentary, "Patent Absurdity: how software broke the system": http://patentabsurdity.com/Apr 19 20:56
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schestowitzOmar87: hehApr 19 20:59
Omar87schestowitz, I hate that guy/girl in each and every aspect.Apr 19 20:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Please seed PatentAbsurdity.com videos!Apr 19 21:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Do it like me! I'm seeding the HD version and I've my upload ratio to be infinite http://is.gd/bzFX3 #PatentAbsurdity #swpatApr 19 21:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Gates Foundation Accused of “Steer[ing] State and National Policy in Education” (Monopolising Schools) http://ur1.ca/vxl2Apr 19 21:09
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] So much garbage in the Android store I can understand having iphone QA. http://is.gd/bzGHG http://is.gd/bzGIr *boggle*Apr 19 21:18
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] why is jive bad-mouthing drupal and liferay? http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-20002686-16.htmlApr 19 21:23
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] I prefer Ogg/Theora but am tired of not viewing YouTube videos because #Google half implemented feature request 1.Solved: http://is.gd/bzHmUApr 19 21:31
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Getting Virgin Cable HD Tele installed tomorrow, and upping from 10Mb/s to 20Mb/s internet. Zoom zoom zoom!Apr 19 21:44
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] ♺ @lauracowen: You rock, @czajkowski !! :) This is a [FACT]Apr 19 21:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] rt @glynmoody Why Old Media and Social Media Don’t Get Along - http://bit.ly/9TgHlX nice exploration of main myths about new and old #mediaApr 19 21:51
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] A #Microsoft #MVP just alleged that Im a "closet Microsoft user" -what a counter! Is this what MS considers "Most Valuable Person"? #windowsApr 19 21:54
schestowitzWindows AND a closet?Apr 19 21:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] George Orwell must be rolling in his grave... http://is.gd/bzJ37 oh the #irony #1984 #surveylance #society #nowApr 19 22:02
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Woot! Canonical have been exceptionally lovely and donated some raffle prizes for #oggcamp. Yes! The raffle is back!Apr 19 22:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] ♺ @katebevan: more ash heading our way http://www.nats.co.uk/Apr 19 22:09
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @ruiseabra George Orwell must be rolling in his grave... http://is.gd/bzJ37 oh the #irony #1984 #surveylance #society #nowApr 19 22:12
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Free Software is not about deception, Free Software is about caring for others: http://url4.eu/2mLXNApr 19 22:19
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ender2070http://www.pwnage.ca/learningtocode.pngApr 19 22:30
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Gates Foundation May Have Silenced Competing Research Ahead of New Gates Foundation-Funded ‘Study’ http://ur1.ca/vxxlApr 19 22:33
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schestowitzender2070: the win decorators in chromium make it look like gnomeApr 19 22:34
ender2070a little bitApr 19 22:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Wonderful Spartacus: Blood and Sand ending. Can't wait for the prequel, and best wishes for a fast recovery for Andy Whitfield.Apr 19 22:37
schestowitzI bet this runs Linux: http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/04/15/the-minority-report-report-florida-testing-pre-crime-software/Apr 19 22:40
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schestowitzhttp://www.daniweb.com/news/story276878.htmlApr 19 22:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] jack white he likes how words sound and passes it onApr 19 22:42
Omar87schestowitz, check this out. http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2010/Apr-19.html (de Icaza is announcing MonoMac)Apr 19 22:45
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Ahh.. I see. It's okay. Thanks for letting me know, though. :-) @ctxlkenApr 19 22:52
schestowitzOh, I've just found OpenBytes in TuxMachinesApr 19 22:53
schestowitzOmar87: Mono wants some cocoaApr 19 22:54
Omar87schestowitz, yeah. That's right. Maybe even with some heroin too.Apr 19 22:55
Omar87schestowitz, it makes me think these people are too sad to believe Apple had rejected them, that they decided to just ignore it and pretend the opposite.Apr 19 22:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Watching Dr Who with wifey sat on the floor between my legs as I brush her hair with one of Sophies pink brushes #fbApr 19 22:59
schestowitzender2070: http://www.enricoros.com/blog/2010/04/delicious-transblurency/Apr 19 23:01
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schestowitzOmar87: no, some are truly upsetApr 19 23:01
schestowitzWhen Apple stated acting up with DRM, a mate of mine who had a MacBook wiped it and put KDE on itApr 19 23:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] A cara obscura da Microsoft http://is.gd/bzMq7 #slave #labourApr 19 23:03
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schestowitzender2070: what the heck if with those symbols posts. Was it sarcasm?Apr 19 23:03
schestowitz /if/is/Apr 19 23:03
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schestowitzhttp://thepcspy.com/read/dear-alsa-renew-your-domain/ yikesApr 19 23:05
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schestowitzhttp://sites.google.com/a/crossbytes.org/crossbytes/computer-recycling-center/hot-news/fedoraontheolpcatlfnw2010Apr 19 23:05
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schestowitzwoohoo. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODE2MgApr 19 23:07
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oiaohmFor some reason I cannot get to oooauthors.orgApr 19 23:07
schestowitzwhat's that for? OOo?Apr 19 23:07
schestowitzDid you hear re plugin (oDF)?Apr 19 23:08
schestowitzhttp://linuxbsdos.com/2010/04/19/new-storage-options-for-anaconda-on-fedora-13/Apr 19 23:08
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schestowitzhttp://pclinuxos2007.blogspot.com/2010/04/welcome-pclinuxos-2010.htmlApr 19 23:09
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schestowitzI tried this distribution last year and it was really wonderful. They deserve more attention.Apr 19 23:10
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schestowitzhttp://blogs.computerworld.com/15960/could_os_2_come_back_from_the_graveApr 19 23:12
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Just showing off that I can get wifey to let me watch Dr Who again with the simple bribe of a hair brush ;)Apr 19 23:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Microsoft #Hjelsberg: F# "first time integration of a #functional #programming lang w/industrial-strength framework&toolset"-Uh,No. #erlangApr 19 23:12
schestowitzhell no; no way, joseApr 19 23:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 "industrial-strength"... marketing buzzword alertApr 19 23:14
ender2070[17:49] <schestowitz> ender2070: what the heck if with those symbols posts. Was it sarcasm?Apr 19 23:15
ender2070huh?Apr 19 23:15
oiaohmoooauthers.org is the documentation production group for openoffice server appears to be down.  schestowitzApr 19 23:16
oiaohmI was after the source of the pdf of the guides todo a little cut and paste.Apr 19 23:16
ender2070what symbols postsApr 19 23:18
oiaohmOS/2 could come back schestowitz.  It does make a great terminal OS.Apr 19 23:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Microsoft is a backwards ghetto that ignores, steals, or lies abt the #software state of the art-to the cost of its customers. @schestowitzApr 19 23:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Microsoft is no more about #software than Tony Soprano was about waste disposal.Apr 19 23:22
oiaohmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EComStation  To be correct current name of OS/2 is EComStationApr 19 23:23
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] via @schestowitz #microsoft "industrial strength" means not "industry state of the art for a decade" (#erlang) but "is in VisualStudio" (!!)Apr 19 23:26
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schestowitzhttp://digg.com/tech_news/New_Film_Patent_Absurdity_watch_it_online_now "This page has a sponsored link from Microsoft entitled "How to be Successful in Business. (VIDEO)" which I think is a pretty funny juxtaposition, since patents are are only successful as long as we put up with them."Apr 19 23:28
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schestowitzender2070: in your siteApr 19 23:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @WATERHAMMERIN @ecorex @ecoactions Fate of the #Amazon #Rainforest is 'Irreversible' #RTR http://bit.ly/RFfate // another feedback loop!!Apr 19 23:30
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/fontanaApr 19 23:32
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ender2070schestowitz - ohhhh symbolismApr 19 23:33
ender2070in black eyed peasApr 19 23:33
ender2070not sarcasmApr 19 23:33
schestowitzThere are also many round objectsApr 19 23:34
schestowitzThey don' symbolise flying saucersApr 19 23:34
schestowitz"@fabsh,that's why !fsf contractually agrees:"no proprietarize";prevents "FSF leadership replaced by androids". For-profits refuse to do this" http://identi.ca/notice/29153944Apr 19 23:35
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ender2070where did I say flying saucersApr 19 23:36
schestowitzWill Europe let dogmatists write the future of copyright? http://www.laquadrature.net/en/will-europe-let-dogmatists-write-the-future-of-copyrightApr 19 23:36
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schestowitzender2070: just an analogy about symbolsApr 19 23:36
schestowitzSuperimposing patterns upon observationApr 19 23:37
ender2070perhaps you should find out what you're talking about before firing out of your assApr 19 23:37
schestowitzLet me reread it and replyApr 19 23:38
schestowitz"http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2010/04/16/caos-theo"Apr 19 23:39
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schestowitz"Several pyramids shown throughout the video."Apr 19 23:39
schestowitzyes, but it's a basic shapeApr 19 23:39
schestowitzThen you have the Mormons pretending that their holy book came from Egypt or somethingApr 19 23:40
ender2070ughApr 19 23:40
ender2070you're too fargone dudeApr 19 23:40
schestowitzWritten on tablets of goldApr 19 23:40
ender2070read a book on symbolism before spewing moreApr 19 23:40
ender2070have you even read one freemasonic book?Apr 19 23:40
ender2070just *one*Apr 19 23:40
schestowitzI doubt the video's director thought to himself, "illuminati!!"Apr 19 23:40
schestowitzender2070: who by?Apr 19 23:41
ender2070where do I say illuminati?Apr 19 23:41
ender2070schestowitz - disinfo much?Apr 19 23:41
schestowitz"Wondering if anyone else had similar theories, more symbolism or even some hard evidence. My conclusion with this is that they are either Free masons themselves or that their lyrics and videos have a Free-masonic hand in their making."Apr 19 23:41
schestowitzYou know, they don't do their videosApr 19 23:42
ender2070someone might wear a cross in a video, nobody is saying "vatican conspiracy!"Apr 19 23:42
schestowitzThey hardly do their songs evenApr 19 23:42
schestowitzSome can't play instrumentsApr 19 23:42
ender2070exactlyApr 19 23:42
schestowitzSo if anyone put it there, it's not themApr 19 23:42
schestowitzMaybe some people with own agendaApr 19 23:42
ender2070yeah perhapsApr 19 23:42
schestowitzLike that Sandra Bullock film for harmony between racesApr 19 23:43
ender2070the director might just be a freemason fan, or the dude who wrote the lyricsApr 19 23:43
schestowitzOr some people of certain religion putting their languages and races in it.. or religionsApr 19 23:43
schestowitzBut it's a weird videoApr 19 23:43
schestowitzI said this to some peopleApr 19 23:43
ender2070i've been noticing stuff I read in freemasonic books in their songs so I pointed it outApr 19 23:43
schestowitzIt's too capricious and arbtraryApr 19 23:43
schestowitzMoon, elephant... I mean, WTH?Apr 19 23:44
ender2070the guy who made 2001 a space oddessy IS a freemasonApr 19 23:44
ender2070thats confirmedApr 19 23:44
schestowitzStoned director/scriptorApr 19 23:44
cubezzzwow, a Sun 250 Ultra for $29...Apr 19 23:44
ender2070they dig up a rectangle on the moonApr 19 23:44
ender2070lolApr 19 23:44
cubezzz...only $364 for shipping...Apr 19 23:44
ender2070which is another one from their booksApr 19 23:44
schestowitzender2070: read science books, good use of time, IMHOApr 19 23:44
ender2070I doApr 19 23:44
schestowitzSubculture's books are good for kicksApr 19 23:44
ender2070hahaApr 19 23:44
schestowitzI like reading about how they are debunkedApr 19 23:45
ender2070try reading something not funded by a bank sometimeApr 19 23:45
schestowitzAlong with all sorts of mythApr 19 23:45
schestowitzLike the 9/11 mythsApr 19 23:45
cubezzz9/11 was weird thoughApr 19 23:45
schestowitzAnd how people lie to support their Armageddon fantasies.Apr 19 23:45
schestowitzit's like they try to justify hating their authorities and rebelApr 19 23:45
schestowitzcubezzz: watch both sides, I haveApr 19 23:45
schestowitzThe so-called "Truthers" inject lies and distortions into their versionsApr 19 23:46
cubezzzit was surprising that both buildings came downApr 19 23:46
ender2070you have to stand back and see where all the money comes fromApr 19 23:46
cubezzzI was surprised, anywayApr 19 23:46
schestowitzI gave chance to both theories... the simply (Occam's razor) and fabricatedApr 19 23:46
ender2070money rules this worldApr 19 23:46
schestowitz*simpleApr 19 23:46
ender2070and money buys science resultsApr 19 23:46
cubezzzah no :)Apr 19 23:46
schestowitzcubezzz: not at allApr 19 23:46
ender2070you dont fund the people working against youApr 19 23:46
cubezzzCold Fusion still doesn't work :)Apr 19 23:46
schestowitzIt would be surprising if only *one* came downApr 19 23:46
ender2070you heavily fund those supporting your ownApr 19 23:46
ender2070its like selective quotingApr 19 23:47
schestowitzThey are similar building, similar planesApr 19 23:47
ender2070the IPCC for instance cherry picked science reportsApr 19 23:47
schestowitzRepeated experiments, similar fallsApr 19 23:47
cubezzzrightApr 19 23:47
cubezzzthat's the testApr 19 23:47
schestowitzThey couldn't have ninjas planting explosives quietly and then recruit dozens from many countries to fake plane crashes without getting caughtApr 19 23:47
cubezzzschestowitz, I don't think too many people would have predicted the "pancaking" that happenedApr 19 23:48
cubezzza plane hitting the building, yesApr 19 23:48
schestowitzcubezzz: they had the same girdersApr 19 23:48
ender2070im not decided on 9/11, theres so many unanswered questionsApr 19 23:48
schestowitzSame melting point, similar durationApr 19 23:49
ender2070why were investigators told not to dig deepApr 19 23:49
schestowitzTheuy buckle at about 1100 degreesApr 19 23:49
schestowitzMelt at 1800Apr 19 23:49
ender2070why did they ship off all the wreckage before investigationApr 19 23:49
cubezzzit could have tiltedApr 19 23:49
cubezzzit didn'tApr 19 23:49
cubezzzwhich was kind of oddApr 19 23:49
schestowitzender2070: to clear upApr 19 23:49
schestowitzIt's easier to try to portray this as coverupApr 19 23:49
ender2070do you sweep up a murder scene on the street for tidyness?Apr 19 23:50
cubezzzbut of course it was kind of hard to seeApr 19 23:50
ender2070its destruction of evidenceApr 19 23:50
schestowitzOr describe any declination to respond as "part of the conspiracy"Apr 19 23:50
schestowitzI did watch both versionsApr 19 23:50
ender2070even michael moore pointed out that the FBI knew about itApr 19 23:50
schestowitzI lost hope for one side when the lies came outApr 19 23:50
ender2070hes pretty mainstreamApr 19 23:50
schestowitzender2070: destruction for whom?Apr 19 23:51
schestowitzFor Alex Jones and Co?Apr 19 23:51
schestowitzThey don't belong thereApr 19 23:51
schestowitzThey are not debris expertsApr 19 23:51
ender2070destruction of evidence for people, who you know, do forensicsApr 19 23:51
schestowitzThey did go thereApr 19 23:51
cubezzzAlex Jones talked to Stallman :)Apr 19 23:51
schestowitzYeah, weirdApr 19 23:51
cubezzztwo crazies? :)Apr 19 23:51
schestowitzI wonder if RMS knew what he was getting associated withApr 19 23:51
schestowitzChomsky made the error of going thereApr 19 23:52
ender2070its funny though, i mention freemasons and I get dragged into a pointless 9/11 discussionApr 19 23:52
cubezzzthe thing is, Stallman never gets invited to do mainstream mediaApr 19 23:52
cubezzzlike oh, Charlie RoseApr 19 23:52
ender2070the only conspiracy I believe in is agenda 21, population control and world socialismApr 19 23:52
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0APTn1EPg9E&feature=relatedApr 19 23:52
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cubezzzor 60 minutesApr 19 23:52
schestowitzHe also did one with HustlerApr 19 23:52
ender2070no aliens, no reptiliansApr 19 23:52
schestowitzHe didn't know it was an adult magazineApr 19 23:52
ender2070no bullshitApr 19 23:53
cubezzzhahahaApr 19 23:53
cubezzzno wayApr 19 23:53
schestowitzcubezzz: cause he can say "dangerous" things (ideas)Apr 19 23:53
schestowitzHe's not predisposedApr 19 23:53
cubezzzright, I read Hustler for the informative articles *ahem*Apr 19 23:53
cubezzzthe world is strangeApr 19 23:54
ender2070the world is shifting away from freedom, why promote it in mass media via stallman?Apr 19 23:54
cubezzzthere's lots of Linux magazines, why not put Stallman articles in thereApr 19 23:55
cubezzzactually I feel we have more freedomApr 19 23:55
cubezzzin the 80's we didn't really have open source OSApr 19 23:55
cubezzzI was using stuff like Xenix and AmigaDOSApr 19 23:55
ender2070we could be more freeApr 19 23:55
cubezzzsureApr 19 23:55
ender2070microsoft and bill gates rich dad got him the appropriate connectionsApr 19 23:56
cubezzzI see the biggest problem has lack of documentationApr 19 23:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Folks, don't forget to take part in the Ubuntu Women World Play Day competition - see http://is.gd/bzPyt for details! #ubuntuApr 19 23:56
cubezzzhas = isApr 19 23:56
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ender2070and bush w dropped the anti trust case, correct?Apr 19 23:56
cubezzzthe coolest thing about BSD and Linux is if you don't like something you can fork itApr 19 23:56
ender2070yeahApr 19 23:57
cubezzzor go back to an earlier versionApr 19 23:57
ender2070or you can stay on your old ass 2.4Apr 19 23:57
cubezzzright :)Apr 19 23:57
ender2070why not 2.2Apr 19 23:57
cubezzz2.4 is what I know bestApr 19 23:57
cubezzzI was on 0.94 and went to 2.4Apr 19 23:57
ender20702.4 sucks thoughApr 19 23:57
cubezzzthere's a lot of things that Fedora 12 does I don't likeApr 19 23:58
cubezzzlots of problems with pulseaudioApr 19 23:58
ender2070probablyApr 19 23:58
cubezzzI don't have those problems on fc1 Apr 19 23:58
ender2070just cause things work perfectly for me doesnt mean it does for everyone :)Apr 19 23:58
cubezzzI have a couple of fedora 10 boxes that work pretty good, so I'm happy with thatApr 19 23:59
cubezzzthe zaurus is 2.4Apr 19 23:59
ender2070you should've mirrored the updatesApr 19 23:59
ender2070they dropped F10 supportApr 19 23:59
cubezzzthere's lots of reasons, DSL is 2.4Apr 19 23:59

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