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| oiaohm | But make a nice job of small ships. | Apr 24 00:00 |
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| tessier_ | oiaohm: The pirates don't have big ships, fortunately. | Apr 24 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | teach them how to shoot straight, reload, and clean the thing | Apr 24 00:00 |
| tessier_ | It takes more than an hour to learn to shoot straight. | Apr 24 00:00 |
| oiaohm | Think hold caslse defence. | Apr 24 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | not difficult | Apr 24 00:00 |
| oiaohm | The pirate has to climb up on the ship. DaemonFC | Apr 24 00:00 |
| oiaohm | Why put your personal in harms way. | Apr 24 00:00 |
| tessier_ | Speaking of which, I should get to the range again soon. Been months. | Apr 24 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | I'm obviously not a professional soldier and I could easily shoot someone if I had to | Apr 24 00:01 |
| MinceR | gn | Apr 24 00:01 |
| oiaohm | The old systems of burning hot material would work off a cargo ship. DaemonFC | Apr 24 00:01 |
| DaemonFC | it's not really much of a skill at that range | Apr 24 00:01 |
| DaemonFC | you'd have to be blind to miss | Apr 24 00:01 |
| oiaohm | Ie they come up you schorce the crap out of them. | Apr 24 00:01 |
| tessier_ | DaemonFC: What range? You would have to get them pretty close. They have AK's. | Apr 24 00:01 |
| oiaohm | Same kind of defence could be designed around bridge. | Apr 24 00:01 |
| tessier_ | Container ships are very long. | Apr 24 00:01 |
| tessier_ | oiaohm: Yes, I think armoring the bridge and being able to lock into a secure area is a good idea. | Apr 24 00:02 |
| oiaohm | Basically don't fight battles with guns if you don't have to. | Apr 24 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | firefight could give you several possibilities in that environment | Apr 24 00:02 |
| tessier_ | oiaohm: Unfortunately current ships just aren't designed that way. | Apr 24 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | you could find cover and discourage them from proceeding towards you if nothing else | Apr 24 00:02 |
| oiaohm | Remember if they can kill the crew on the ship they can then take it when ever DaemonFC | Apr 24 00:02 |
| oiaohm | So you want to make killing the crew as impossiable as possiable. | Apr 24 00:02 |
| oiaohm | Like robot fight fighting cannons. | Apr 24 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | so ways of preventing them from boarding in the first place? | Apr 24 00:03 |
| oiaohm | Yep DaemonFC | Apr 24 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | Make it so they land on a row of cactii? :) | Apr 24 00:03 |
| oiaohm | You could make the ship harder to grapple hook. | Apr 24 00:03 |
| oiaohm | So they cannot get up there in the first place. | Apr 24 00:04 |
| MinceR | or you could just kill the bad guys | Apr 24 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | smooth hull, avoid ridges | Apr 24 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 24 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | arm the crew in case they find a way onboard in spite of all that | Apr 24 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 24 00:04 |
| oiaohm | Remember large cargo ship running over small boat will feel nothing. | Apr 24 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | ramming :) | Apr 24 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | always a good option to have | Apr 24 00:05 |
| oiaohm | All these options don't put crew in harms way. | Apr 24 00:05 |
| oiaohm | Makes pirate life hell. | Apr 24 00:05 |
| oiaohm | Trained to drop hand grandas with monotoff cocktails into the pirate ships while out line of fire is something the crew can do. | Apr 24 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: I saw something funny on Youtube earlier | Apr 24 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | some guy had an electric bike and put red and blue flashers on the front | Apr 24 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | nice way to get charged with impersonating a police officer :D | Apr 24 00:07 |
| oiaohm | Hmm ship mostly metal. wonder if you can set up door to cabins as tasers. | Apr 24 00:08 |
| oiaohm | Ie leathal level tasers. | Apr 24 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | tasers are actually a good option where the officer uses them properly | Apr 24 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | certainly less potential for harm to the suspect than a baton | Apr 24 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 24 00:08 |
| oiaohm | Rule one never enter a fire fight if you don't have to. | Apr 24 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | there's those tasers=murder morons, telling you about accidental deaths | Apr 24 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | they should compare that to before the baton was phased out | Apr 24 00:09 |
| oiaohm | I am talking about 30 000 volt versions DaemonFC | Apr 24 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | how many deaths and injuries then | Apr 24 00:09 |
| oiaohm | ie 100 percent death for sure | Apr 24 00:09 |
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| DaemonFC | I'd rather have a taser than a baton myself, less chance of killing the person, don't have to get close enough for them to grab it and use it on you | Apr 24 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | lots of perks with the taser :D | Apr 24 00:10 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Apple Gets Sued (Again) for Poor Quality Hardware and Denial of Liability/Warranty http://ur1.ca/wqja | Apr 24 00:16 | |
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| _goblin | daemonfc: Re: Taser....I completely agree with you....as a tactical option it is far less lethal than a baton. | Apr 24 00:37 |
| _goblin | daemonfc: but then again, the best "weapon" is your mouth. Talk someone down is always the most desirable option. | Apr 24 00:38 |
| WireWulf | the best weapon is the one that works | Apr 24 00:39 |
| WireWulf | be it mass murder or driving someone to killing one's self | Apr 24 00:40 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: tell Costa Boy to stop lying | Apr 24 00:54 |
| schestowitz | I NEVER NYMSHIFT | Apr 24 00:54 |
| schestowitz | He is just libeling me in yout blog | Apr 24 00:55 |
| schestowitz | We need to prepare some indictement one day, a list of reason to send Microsoft executives to prison | Apr 24 00:58 |
| schestowitz | Their bullying has gone way too far | Apr 24 00:58 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: The term "Im giving him enough rope" is what Im doing | Apr 24 00:59 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: there's alot more to come. | Apr 24 00:59 |
| _goblin | * a lot | Apr 24 01:00 |
| _goblin | Ive even given him a big hint "MVP’s and Microsoft Advocates you are on notice, I record and document everything and am rather good at building up a profile on users who I consider dubious. I have plenty more dubious users that I have built up extensive portfolio’s on. If you want to support a pro-Microsoft opinion thats fine, but please play fair." | Apr 24 01:00 |
| _goblin | now nobody can say I haven't been fair. | Apr 24 01:01 |
| _goblin | Im already getting expressions of interest around the whole incident. | Apr 24 01:02 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: he has dug himself in a hole there | Apr 24 01:02 |
| schestowitz | And my next post won't be plesant | Apr 24 01:02 |
| schestowitz | *pleasant | Apr 24 01:02 |
| _goblin | you can't yet appreciate how much of a hole though. | Apr 24 01:02 |
| _goblin | I haven't brought up the "big stuff" yet. | Apr 24 01:03 |
| schestowitz | OK, I'll hold off for now | Apr 24 01:03 |
| schestowitz | But anyway, there's reason to call for legal action | Apr 24 01:03 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft employees have libelled me too | Apr 24 01:03 |
| _goblin | no, please by all means challenge, I want to build up the interest before laying down the goodies. | Apr 24 01:03 |
| schestowitz | Even compared me to a serial killer (Unabomber) | Apr 24 01:03 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: ok | Apr 24 01:04 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: Lucy Buntu was a convenient intro....and perfectly timed after I made a Tweet earlier in the day about the advocates being on standby when Ubuntu RC was released. | Apr 24 01:05 |
| _goblin | the only thing I hope is that the picture was understood.....Arnold Rimmer dressed as a woman with a puppet (implication sockpuppet) that happened to be a penguin, mascott of Linux and the opposite to Andre's advocacy....I hope people picked up on my subtle attempt at humour | Apr 24 01:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #USPTO Starts Rejecting #SoftwarePatents While Germany Mistakenly Overrides the Law and Approves Microsoft’s http://ur1.ca/wqsr | Apr 24 01:11 | |
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| schestowitz | _goblin: advice: | Apr 24 01:12 |
| _goblin | yep | Apr 24 01:13 |
| schestowitz | do a google on "Lucy Buntu" | Apr 24 01:13 |
| schestowitz | See where else he posts with those nyms | Apr 24 01:13 |
| schestowitz | "Mr. Dee" too | Apr 24 01:13 |
| _goblin | I did.....I must have missed it. | Apr 24 01:13 |
| schestowitz | Imagine 10,000 Microsoft MVPs doing this type of stuff | Apr 24 01:13 |
| schestowitz | Some in developing countries | Apr 24 01:13 |
| schestowitz | Desperate for a computer mouse or something | Apr 24 01:13 |
| _goblin | where you looking, I can see my articles on the first page referencing them....can't see anything else immediately. | Apr 24 01:14 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: The question which needs to be asked though is if Microsoft products are so great, why the need to nymshift? | Apr 24 01:16 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: and also, what is the official view of Microsoft in relation to this behaviour? | Apr 24 01:17 |
| _goblin | right...time for bed.... | Apr 24 01:31 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right, Im off to bed. Been an interesting day. Goodnight "Lucy". http://tinyurl.com/29frcbk #microsoft #mvp #fail | Apr 24 01:45 | |
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| DaemonFC | I'm blasting Godsmack | Apr 24 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | if that asshole downstairs wants to turn the building into Abu Ghraib, I'll be damned if I listen to his music through the floor | Apr 24 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 24 01:59 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Free Software Enables Developing and Developed Countries to Unshackle Themselves From Intellectual Monopolies http://ur1.ca/wr07 | Apr 24 02:00 | |
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| cubezzz | nymshift who? | Apr 24 02:01 |
| schestowitz | da costa | Apr 24 02:01 |
| cubezzz | I'm not sure even the stockholders like Microsoft these days | Apr 24 02:03 |
| cubezzz | and Microsoft probably has held computers back 10 years | Apr 24 02:04 |
| cubezzz | look how fast Linux caught up | Apr 24 02:05 |
| cubezzz | a lot of serious companies were using Unix stuff too | Apr 24 02:06 |
| cubezzz | it's a natural progression | Apr 24 02:06 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Microsoft is sponsoring the History Channel now | Apr 24 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | "This program brought to you by Windows 7" | Apr 24 02:37 |
| cubezzz | barf! | Apr 24 02:38 |
| cubezzz | I'm glad I don't have cable | Apr 24 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 7 carpet bombing ad campaign lately | Apr 24 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | even more than when it launched | Apr 24 02:39 |
| cubezzz | odd | Apr 24 02:39 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Installed the Nautilus Elementary PPA - http://is.gd/bFzlm - really impressed! :-) #ubuntu | Apr 24 02:39 | |
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| cubezzz | maybe they're not making enough $$$ from the OEMs | Apr 24 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Rule #1 for a company | Apr 24 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | it's never enough money | Apr 24 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | your shareholders expect more every year | Apr 24 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | if you're not growing by at least 1% year over year, someone is getting fired | Apr 24 02:41 |
| cubezzz | they get a dividend now | Apr 24 02:42 |
| cubezzz | it's a mature stock now | Apr 24 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | making your company public is mistake #1 | Apr 24 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | giving dividends is mistake #2 | Apr 24 02:43 |
| cubezzz | it's a way to raise money for the company | Apr 24 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | if you do have to go public to get started, never let the investors control the company | Apr 24 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | and buy back all outstanding shares at first opportunity | Apr 24 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | I'd never let more than 49% of the company go public | Apr 24 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | once they own enough to veto you, you're in trouble | Apr 24 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | real trouble | Apr 24 02:45 |
| cubezzz | what did Standard Oil do? :) | Apr 24 02:45 |
| cubezzz | they sold shares | Apr 24 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | companies that let more than half the company go signify that something is inherently wrong and can't be fixed | Apr 24 02:45 |
| cubezzz | made Rockfeller the richest guy ever | Apr 24 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | the company is trying to offload as much as possible before it tanks | Apr 24 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | get rich and get out | Apr 24 02:46 |
| cubezzz | if you adjust for inflation | Apr 24 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | that sort of thing | Apr 24 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart knows their business model is not sustainable | Apr 24 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | so does Microsoft | Apr 24 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart is now resorting to gimmick "rollbacks" on loss leaders to get people in the store to buy other stuff | Apr 24 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | it's getting to that tipping point | Apr 24 02:47 |
| cubezzz | both have limits to growth | Apr 24 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | even if their sales grow this year, their net will sink | Apr 24 02:47 |
| cubezzz | I think they have reached the saturation point | Apr 24 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft gives "discounts" and "promos" and what amounts to "free copies" of Windows | Apr 24 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | they can write that off their taxes | Apr 24 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | they're not losing money on it and they can count it as a unit shipped | Apr 24 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | the IRS is crazy to treat software as a physical product | Apr 24 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | it costs nothing to copy and Microsoft can deduct it like any business expense | Apr 24 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | and declare full retail value | Apr 24 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | right up to the limit | Apr 24 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | the IRS should treat it as a promotional material with a cost to distribute of $0 | Apr 24 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | should, but they don't | Apr 24 02:50 |
| cubezzz | once the schools get off the wincrack, that will be the end of Microsoft's dominance | Apr 24 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | my brother's high school is not using Windows on most of their systems | Apr 24 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | they have an agreement with Red Hat | Apr 24 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | favorable licensing terms | Apr 24 02:50 |
| cubezzz | that's awesome | Apr 24 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat will work with educational facilities and deeply discount RHEL | Apr 24 02:51 |
| cubezzz | beat Microsoft at their own game | Apr 24 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | so all student workstations are on Red Hat Enterprise Desktop | Apr 24 02:52 |
| DaemonFC | it gets better though | Apr 24 02:52 |
| DaemonFC | terminal multiplexing | Apr 24 02:52 |
| DaemonFC | one big tower runs ten user sessions at once | Apr 24 02:52 |
| DaemonFC | so instead of ten full blown PCs burning electricity that have to be administered separately, each classroom just has one or two giant towers | Apr 24 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | and ten or twenty monitor/keyboard/mouse stations | Apr 24 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | each student is logged into a virtual session | Apr 24 02:54 |
| DaemonFC | keeps electricity costs way down | Apr 24 02:54 |
| DaemonFC | Windows still needs one PC for each running copy | Apr 24 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | not good for the electric bill | Apr 24 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | I don't get how they con a school into paying ten times the electric bill just to have Windows | Apr 24 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | hmmmm, that electric bicycle is proving to be a workhorse | Apr 24 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | I got some tie down straps and made it home with a weeks work of groceries, a pack of toilet paper, and a 28 pound box of cat litter | Apr 24 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | *worth | Apr 24 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | very novel | Apr 24 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 24 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | I like | Apr 24 03:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft MVPs Nymshifting, Pretending to be Other Gender, Accepting Bribes, and Libeling GNU/Linux Users http://ur1.ca/wr6j | Apr 24 03:02 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you're quoted ^ | Apr 24 03:04 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_in_Indiana | Apr 24 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 24 03:05 |
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| DaemonFC | Indiana is leading the United States in installed wind power capacity | Apr 24 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 24 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | still insignificant compared to fossil fuels, but we should have 5% of our electricity from wind by the end of 2010 | Apr 24 03:06 |
| DaemonFC | the oil companies are investing in wind turbines even :P | Apr 24 03:07 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.fsdaily.com/EndUser/VLC_1_1_0_preview_adds_GPU_acceleration | Apr 24 03:13 |
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| DaemonFC | nice | Apr 24 03:13 |
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| DeadSuperHero | Hi all. | Apr 24 03:15 |
| DeadSuperHero | Anyone alive tonight? | Apr 24 03:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin In response to this Costa thing libelling of me, accusing me of things I never did: http://ur1.ca/wr6j | Apr 24 03:19 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Its time to change Linux File System Hierarchy - Plz RT if you like it http://post.ly/ckoB | Apr 24 03:50 | |
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| cubezzz | I try to follow Unix conventions on directories | Apr 24 03:53 |
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| DaemonFC | this guy was at little caesars freaking out on meth or something | Apr 24 04:16 |
| cubezzz | do people still use the db15 connector for Midi? | Apr 24 04:27 |
| cubezzz | it seems like it's on every PC | Apr 24 04:28 |
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| DaemonFC | cubezzz: As I was saying | Apr 24 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | Meth tweaker bought all the pizzas | Apr 24 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | then he kept fidgeting and banging into the pop cooler | Apr 24 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | then he'd figure out how to open it again and bring a bunch of 20 ounce and 2 liters up and paying for them with change from his tube sock | Apr 24 04:41 |
| cubezzz | uh huh | Apr 24 04:43 |
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| DaemonFC | ok cubezzz | Apr 24 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | I keep getting booted | Apr 24 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | did you see my meth tweaker dude story? | Apr 24 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | funniest damned thing I've seen in a while | Apr 24 04:46 |
| cubezzz | I saw, but it seems sad rather than funny | Apr 24 04:47 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] The Cover Letter I Used For My Request For Disclosure - Copies Were Sent To The Government http://bit.ly/9d8VRh | Apr 24 04:49 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] How to join/subscribe Google Groups without a Gmail ID - http://bit.ly/90eA7Q #google | Apr 24 04:51 | |
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| cubezzz | anyone have any thoughts on a good sound card for creating music under Linux? | Apr 24 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, I signed up for Netflix now it's saying get silverlight | Apr 24 04:56 |
| DaemonFC | but my Wii disc will be out in a day or so... | Apr 24 04:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] One of the amusing things one notices when revisiting a place after four years is that almost everybody has a new logo. | Apr 24 05:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Mono - bring all the disadvantages of the #Windows ghetto to #Linux! ... #microsoft #fraud | Apr 24 05:09 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 102 reactors had recurring radioactive leaks into groundwater 1963-2009 http://bit.ly/cg60Er #energy #nrc another 'self regulating' industry | Apr 24 05:17 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] The work that Barcelona FC do for UNICEF, absolutely brilliant. Barcelona FC is how clubs should be organised, not as a soulless business. | Apr 24 06:11 | |
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| cubezzz | well, back to normal now | Apr 24 06:23 |
| cubezzz | new cooler master power supply and it's a lot quieter | Apr 24 06:23 |
| cubezzz | only took me about 6 mins to put it in :) | Apr 24 06:23 |
| satipera | Cubezzz I went through that phase, completely silent pc, water cooled etc, my big box now sounds like a chinook trying to take off :) | Apr 24 06:25 |
| cubezzz | satipera, I think its worth a few extra $$$ to get something nice and quiet :) | Apr 24 06:26 |
| cubezzz | and I'm running old hardware | Apr 24 06:26 |
| cubezzz | so 500 watts is plenty | Apr 24 06:26 |
| cubezzz | don't know how hot new cpus get nowadays | Apr 24 06:27 |
| satipera | Mine was so quiet that I heard other noises I did not used to, and I had to keep checking whether I had left it on or not | Apr 24 06:28 |
| satipera | Only way was to check the flow indicator to water cooling | Apr 24 06:28 |
| satipera | Musicians often go for a silent comp | Apr 24 06:29 |
| cubezzz | yeah I'd rather hear something | Apr 24 06:30 |
| satipera | Now I just paly music through the netbook | Apr 24 06:30 |
| satipera | play | Apr 24 06:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @achitnis: RT @slashdot: Indian Copyright Bill Declares Private, Personal Copying "Fair Dealing" http://bit.ly/bYGP6f | Apr 24 07:08 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Read comments too #interesting RT @slashdot: Indian Copyright Bill Declares Private, Personal Copying "Fair Dealing" http://bit.ly/bYGP6f | Apr 24 08:28 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] For my #metal loving followers, a great band...great album... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YpW25dhzgE&feature=related #rockon | Apr 24 08:40 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Anyone going to Bloodstock 2010? - Openbytes will feature the best metal bands you've never heard of. #metal #bloodstock | Apr 24 08:43 | |
| schestowitz | http://jamesthevicar.com/wordpress/2010/04/19/are-there-that-many-mps/ | Apr 24 08:47 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Sonata Artica - Full Moon http://tinyurl.com/388rzam Great stuff.... #metal #rockon | Apr 24 08:50 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] and one last rarity, more on Openbytes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NtWqsu_9T4 #metal #rockon never has a sucky movie sounded so good! | Apr 24 08:53 | |
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| schestowitz | http://seife.kernalert.de/blog/2010/04/17/android-sucks-bigtime/ | Apr 24 08:57 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin nice one | Apr 24 08:58 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Back on IT..I wonder how many Openbytes readers remember: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6FzrxK8aw4&feature=related #rsi #redsector | Apr 24 09:08 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Openbytes has had a link on Linux Outlaws....Netrunner gets a mention: http://feeds.feedburner.com/linuxoutlaws #linux #foss #gnu #netrunner | Apr 24 09:49 | |
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| schestowitz | Cox Discontinues Usenet, Starting In June | Apr 24 10:00 |
| schestowitz | http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/04/21/210224/Cox-Discontinues-Usenet-Starting-In-June | Apr 24 10:00 |
| schestowitz | Oh, great | Apr 24 10:00 |
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| schestowitz | They are killing USENET cause they can't control its content? | Apr 24 10:00 |
| schestowitz | Many newsgroups are already dead | Apr 24 10:00 |
| schestowitz | http://www.thinq.co.uk/news/2010/4/22/sony-can-update-ps3-firmware-without-asking/ illusion of ownership | Apr 24 10:03 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] @_Goblin do me a favor, go check Richard's IP address too. | Apr 24 10:05 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/22/jon_callas_joins_apple/ | Apr 24 10:35 |
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| schestowitz | bbl | Apr 24 10:45 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] No matter how focused you are today on taking care of domestic... More for Aquarius http://twittascope.com/?sign=11 | Apr 24 10:54 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Rocknerd: Tears for Fears, Spandau Ballet http://is.gd/bFWJf by @lev_lafayette | Apr 24 11:05 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Bugger.Mums machine is on, can't ssh in because I'm using ssh keys only and ecryptfs encrypted home. Damnit | Apr 24 11:13 | |
| Diablo-D3 | http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/?p=292 | Apr 24 11:29 |
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| Diablo-D3 | Wow. | Apr 24 11:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] OpenLike - An open protocol to allow sharing the things people like in a standard method between web applications http://openlike.org #web | Apr 24 11:56 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] No #okcon , on toddler duty - F is being a little shit^W^W^W^W*severely boundary testing* today | Apr 24 12:27 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] I knew #x264 shilled for the H264 guys, but #Microsoft too? http://ur1.ca/n6m0 !monofree | Apr 24 12:28 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Why isn't !Debian packaging !Gwibber 2.x? | Apr 24 13:03 | |
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| Omar87 | Howdy everyone! | Apr 24 13:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @_the_mad_hatter Yeah I have, they are different...Maybe not him, or maybe with "Lucy" he just forgot? | Apr 24 13:33 | |
| schestowitz | I've just changed homepage title from "Truth about Novell, Mono, Moonlight, Silverlight and secret Novell pact with Microsoft." to something else | Apr 24 13:34 |
| schestowitz | I'm gonna make a new logo | Apr 24 13:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.sxc.hu/photo/834903 | Apr 24 13:42 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Freda being slightly more charming and slightly less of a little shit. Still demanding 110% attention though. | Apr 24 13:51 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] You can tell I've been utterly exhausted the past 2wk, I haven't been telling dick jokes continuously. ps: HITLER'S COCK. | Apr 24 13:54 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Why do politicians call them Q&A? It's more like Q&NA (Questions & No Answers) | Apr 24 13:54 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Microsoft profit up 35% thanks to Windows 7 profits - Reads more like a PR script http://tinyurl.com/2vwz3dt | Apr 24 13:58 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] I tried to give away 2x 8-port ethernet switches and an adsl modem on freecycle.. nobody wanted them.. to the recycle centre .. | Apr 24 14:04 | |
| oiaohm | You are seeing a lot of people trying to say what are limit of what open source cannot do. | Apr 24 14:12 |
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| MinceR | how are you gentlemen !! | Apr 24 14:16 |
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| MinceR | http://pictureisunrelated.com/2010/02/16/wtf-photos-videos-please/ | Apr 24 14:21 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] They're 100Mb. I did consider taking to #oggcamp and maybe others could bring their old kit too? I dont have much space though. | Apr 24 14:23 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] This is really funny and awesome piece of comment on india's new copyright law : http://tinyurl.com/2fmj9r2 | Apr 24 14:48 | |
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| schestowitz | What do you folks think of the new top banner of Techrights? An improvement? See http://techrights.org/2010/04/22/comptia-trade-secrets/ for example | Apr 24 15:06 |
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| oiaohm | Really looks too old school for my tastes. schestowitz But I don't have a better idea at this time. | Apr 24 15:19 |
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| oiaohm | Wonder if Techrights could be written in chain of unlocked locks. | Apr 24 15:33 |
| oiaohm | http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126215124 Hello trouble. | Apr 24 15:36 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: I know it's too large (png) and coarse, but I'm no designer | Apr 24 15:50 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, would need a pro for that | Apr 24 15:50 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] .@DMiliband if u pst in txt spk whn u hv 40+ chrs left, u luk lk a twt | Apr 24 15:57 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Postfix Q. I have mail in /var/spool/mail/root. Have set alias for root to be my email addy. Any way I can "flush" that old mail out to me? | Apr 24 16:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] I’m no social scientist or anything, but I’m not sure about the methodology of this poll. http://is.gd/bGeaH | Apr 24 16:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Somewhat wishful considering it's teh Grauniad, but amusing nonetheless http://bit.ly/dwmUZh | Apr 24 16:15 | |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz, Hi | Apr 24 16:21 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, so assuming a miracle happens and Adobe went Linux instead of Apple, is this a good thing? | Apr 24 16:22 |
| oiaohm | Omar87: Define good. | Apr 24 16:23 |
| oiaohm | In the battle against Apple. Adobe on Linux is a help. | Apr 24 16:24 |
| Omar87 | Oh, I see. | Apr 24 16:24 |
| oiaohm | Hardware makers doing hardware level drm is a real problem. | Apr 24 16:25 |
| Omar87 | oiaohm: but then even so, Adobe makes proprietary software after all, ya know. | Apr 24 16:26 |
| oiaohm | I know. | Apr 24 16:26 |
| Omar87 | Oh, I totally agree about the drm issue. | Apr 24 16:26 |
| oiaohm | Software level problem is simpler to deal with than hardware. | Apr 24 16:26 |
| oiaohm | We just have to create programs that work better than Adobe to win. | Apr 24 16:26 |
| Omar87 | That's correct. | Apr 24 16:27 |
| oiaohm | Competition is good. | Apr 24 16:27 |
| Omar87 | I agree. | Apr 24 16:27 |
| oiaohm | Ok would be better if Adobe was open source and we did not have to defeat them. | Apr 24 16:27 |
| oiaohm | But not like you can have everything you want in this life. | Apr 24 16:27 |
| Omar87 | We now have a number of good alternative software to that of Adobe's. | Apr 24 16:28 |
| Omar87 | oiaohm, agreed. | Apr 24 16:28 |
| Omar87 | We have GIMP, Openshot, Movie Editor. Almost all we need now is a Flash-like program. | Apr 24 16:30 |
| oiaohm | Really the one to keep eye on is blender. | Apr 24 16:30 |
| oiaohm | Its kinda unquie. Part Movie editor part 3d modeling program part game engine. | Apr 24 16:31 |
| Omar87 | Yeah. It's amazing. | Apr 24 16:31 |
| oiaohm | And future plans even include part audio editor. | Apr 24 16:31 |
| oiaohm | The amazing part is how many features they fit into such a small program. | Apr 24 16:32 |
| Omar87 | Oh, yeah. That's one big step they have ahead of these large proprietary counterparts. | Apr 24 16:33 |
| oiaohm | Also we will not really be needing a flash type program. | Apr 24 16:35 |
| oiaohm | HTML 5 is providing lots of features of flash. | Apr 24 16:35 |
| Omar87 | Yeah, but I'm talking about animation in general. Lots of artists use flash to create stuff like animated comics and cartoons. | Apr 24 16:36 |
| Eruaran | Can I get some feedback please | Apr 24 16:36 |
| Eruaran | Thoughts on this: | Apr 24 16:36 |
| Eruaran | http://picasaweb.google.com/farrance.jeremy/Techrights#5463717588227255986 | Apr 24 16:36 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Picasa Web Albums - farrance.jeremy - Techrights .::. Size~: 33.16 KB | Apr 24 16:36 |
| oiaohm | I know this might sound insulting Eruaran it looks like a stuffed up stencil to me. | Apr 24 16:38 |
| Eruaran | I was thinking of putting it together with something like this: | Apr 24 16:38 |
| Eruaran | http://picasaweb.google.com/farrance.jeremy/Techrights#5463724994150976610 | Apr 24 16:38 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Picasa Web Albums - farrance.jeremy - Techrights .::. Size~: 33.16 KB | Apr 24 16:38 |
| Eruaran | But the font doesn't look quite right | Apr 24 16:38 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, I like it. Simple, yet pretty elegant. | Apr 24 16:38 |
| Omar87 | bbl, bye | Apr 24 16:39 |
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| Eruaran | thx | Apr 24 16:39 |
| Omar87-away | Anytime. | Apr 24 16:39 |
| oiaohm | Eruaran: inverse the contrast on it. Ie Black for the word and something light around it. | Apr 24 16:40 |
| oiaohm | Its just me I don't like stencils that look incomplete. | Apr 24 16:41 |
| Eruaran | yes its not meant to look complete on its own | Apr 24 16:41 |
| Eruaran | its not finished | Apr 24 16:41 |
| Eruaran | I like the boycottnovell picture of the parthenon | Apr 24 16:42 |
| Eruaran | so I thought... pillars | Apr 24 16:42 |
| Eruaran | kind of abandoned the magnifying glass idea | Apr 24 16:43 |
| Eruaran | Do you think I should keep the font? | Apr 24 16:46 |
| oiaohm | Personally perference is for something more modern. Eruaran | Apr 24 16:48 |
| oiaohm | This is tracking tech after all. | Apr 24 16:48 |
| Eruaran | I have some nice tech looking fonts but the more tech they get the less readable they are | Apr 24 16:51 |
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| Eruaran | alot of them seem like a good idea until i try them | Apr 24 16:53 |
| Eruaran | then itse like... oh dear no | Apr 24 16:53 |
| oiaohm | I am more thinking standard font filled with something tech. | Apr 24 16:53 |
| oiaohm | Ie like locks circuit boards .... | Apr 24 16:53 |
| Eruaran | indeed | Apr 24 16:53 |
| Eruaran | Im considering broader ethical issues as well | Apr 24 16:53 |
| oiaohm | Lot of the ethical issues are creating fake restrictions and locking people in. | Apr 24 16:54 |
| oiaohm | Reason for my lock idea earlier. | Apr 24 16:54 |
| Eruaran | yes | Apr 24 16:54 |
| oiaohm | Techrights writen out of open locks. | Apr 24 16:54 |
| Eruaran | as long as the lock is open :) | Apr 24 16:54 |
| oiaohm | Yes I know not simple todo | Apr 24 16:55 |
| oiaohm | And it don't know of any site with a logo using something like that. | Apr 24 16:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] I wonder if a Facebook board meeting started with "we have too many users; suggestions on how to tackle this?" http://tinyurl.com/37d5x8s | Apr 24 16:56 | |
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| oiaohm | The hardest bit about creating a logo is the unqueish bit. Eruaran | Apr 24 16:58 |
| Eruaran | indeed | Apr 24 16:58 |
| oiaohm | And this is not a site where a ascii art logo fits. | Apr 24 17:01 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] German Supreme Court validates the Microsoft FAT patent on long file names, on the road to validation of swpats: http://ur1.ca/wof0 | Apr 24 17:29 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: German appeal court upholds Microsoft FAT patent - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 36.77 KB | Apr 24 17:29 |
| Eruaran | I tend to like a red font... it stands out against the mostly greenish backdrop of the site | Apr 24 17:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Going to a barbeque tomorrow which means no traditional Sunday lunch,which means we get to eat the roast parsnips tonight, none for kids :D | Apr 24 17:44 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] So what should I write in a DreamWidth/LiveJournal post? | Apr 24 17:49 | |
| schestowitz | Eruaran: hey | Apr 24 17:59 |
| schestowitz | I made a logo, I'm not so much in love with it.. | Apr 24 18:00 |
| schestowitz | That's why I wanted a pro like you.. | Apr 24 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Omar87-away: Adobe would not harm Linux as much as it does when ignoring it | Apr 24 18:00 |
| Eruaran | schestowitz: working on looking for that happy accident... | Apr 24 18:01 |
| Eruaran | one idea was this one: http://picasaweb.google.com/farrance.jeremy/Techrights#5463717588227255986 | Apr 24 18:01 |
| schestowitz | Eruaran: where are the pillars from? | Apr 24 18:01 |
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| schestowitz | I'd use that other green logo somewhere | Apr 24 18:01 |
| Eruaran | I googled pillars | Apr 24 18:01 |
| schestowitz | As in here: http://techrights.org/about-the-site/ | Apr 24 18:02 |
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| Eruaran | I'll upload some more "interesting" ones I played with ;) | Apr 24 18:02 |
| schestowitz | [16:43] <Eruaran> kind of abandoned the magnifying glass idea | Apr 24 18:02 |
| schestowitz | I never chose magnifying glass | Apr 24 18:02 |
| schestowitz | it would seem like a Groklaw copycat | Apr 24 18:02 |
| schestowitz | [16:54] <oiaohm> Techrights writen out of open locks. | Apr 24 18:03 |
| schestowitz | This needs an artist | Apr 24 18:03 |
| Eruaran | yes | Apr 24 18:04 |
| Eruaran | kind of hard | Apr 24 18:04 |
| schestowitz | [17:40] <Eruaran> I tend to like a red font... it stands out against the mostly greenish backdrop of the site | Apr 24 18:04 |
| Eruaran | I've uploaded some more | Apr 24 18:04 |
| schestowitz | The flag is red too, by coincidence | Apr 24 18:04 |
| Eruaran | I was mostly having fun with it | Apr 24 18:04 |
| Eruaran | deviating away into more "exciting" fonts | Apr 24 18:04 |
| Eruaran | they are transparent so they're quite usable | Apr 24 18:05 |
| schestowitz | Maybe I should post these for feedback on them.. | Apr 24 18:05 |
| schestowitz | Eruaran: let's post and ask people.. | Apr 24 18:05 |
| Eruaran | I was mostly having fun with fonts | Apr 24 18:05 |
| Eruaran | :P | Apr 24 18:05 |
| schestowitz | #9 is nicw | Apr 24 18:07 |
| schestowitz | Let me rotate some and post | Apr 24 18:08 |
| schestowitz | Eruaran: http://schestowitz.com/Art/Schestowitz/images.html | Apr 24 18:08 |
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| schestowitz | 2004 | Apr 24 18:08 |
| Eruaran | I was starting to think the site name itself could be a logo if its interesting enough looking | Apr 24 18:09 |
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| schestowitz | Yeah | Apr 24 18:11 |
| schestowitz | Let me post them quickly... | Apr 24 18:11 |
| Eruaran | #7 really looks like it belongs as the title for a tacky horror movie | Apr 24 18:12 |
| Eruaran | :p | Apr 24 18:12 |
| Eruaran | But I thought it was fun | Apr 24 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Eruaran: http://techrights.org/2010/04/24/techrights-candidate-designs/ | Apr 24 18:19 |
| neighborlee | INteresting | Apr 24 18:19 |
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| neighborlee | schestowitz, I guess fedora was the LAST holdout for all things mono huh <oops we almost got there > :) | Apr 24 18:19 |
| schestowitz | Eruaran: I made a log cause I hadn't heard from you and you were not here for a long time | Apr 24 18:19 |
| schestowitz | So I assumed you lost interest | Apr 24 18:19 |
| schestowitz | neighborlee: yes, it's also clear to Canonical now | Apr 24 18:20 |
| schestowitz | neighborlee: http://techrights.org/2010/04/20/matt-zimmerman-on-mono/ | Apr 24 18:20 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Canonical is Already Aware of the Problem With Mono | Techrights .::. Size~: 95.66 KB | Apr 24 18:20 |
| neighborlee | I was looking for paint apps and found a little diddly about mono/.net, and it shows how non ready mono really is imho: http://www.linux.com/community/blogs/paint-mono-paintnet-fuer-linux.html : " unstable , SLOW and hmm even miguel messed this one up..the poster boy shows off h is baby in a rather bad light i'd say. | Apr 24 18:20 |
| schestowitz | Show this to people in UBuntu Forums | Apr 24 18:20 |
| schestowitz | Basically, we were right all along | Apr 24 18:20 |
| neighborlee | checking | Apr 24 18:20 |
| neighborlee | schestowitz, of course we were | Apr 24 18:20 |
| neighborlee | we listened to our innserlf calling smack on all things M$ and following them blindly | Apr 24 18:21 |
| schestowitz | neighborlee: of course not, we're just "irrational haters^TM" | Apr 24 18:21 |
| schestowitz | Our emotion clouds our judgment | Apr 24 18:21 |
| neighborlee | M$ on its entire merit isn't 'bad', its just capable of doing nasty things and we're too stupid not to follow | Apr 24 18:21 |
| neighborlee | schestowitz, exactly ;))) | Apr 24 18:21 |
| schestowitz | I was being sarcastic by the way | Apr 24 18:22 |
| schestowitz | could be quotes w/o context | Apr 24 18:22 |
| neighborlee | ubuntu people wanted to 'believe' those mono apps were kewl and amazing..reality bites sometimes and its usually best to stick with non tainted code ;) | Apr 24 18:22 |
| neighborlee | schestowitz, I know you were | Apr 24 18:27 |
| neighborlee | schestowitz, been there seen that,know you far too well LOL | Apr 24 18:27 |
| neighborlee | boy am I glad I stopped using fedora sometime ago..ill never go back either..pcbsd all the way for me | Apr 24 18:28 |
| neighborlee | only reason ive not been able to use it , is there was no <till now> 64bit nvidia driver | Apr 24 18:28 |
| neighborlee | yay ;)) | Apr 24 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Fedora looks OK | Apr 24 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Did you use its KDE evrsion? | Apr 24 18:29 |
| neighborlee | looks aren't everything :) | Apr 24 18:29 |
| neighborlee | I got deeper than looks..:) | Apr 24 18:29 |
| neighborlee | ..go | Apr 24 18:29 |
| schestowitz | They are important to me | Apr 24 18:29 |
| schestowitz | I care about apps | Apr 24 18:29 |
| neighborlee | dont we all | Apr 24 18:29 |
| schestowitz | The rest if stability and stuff, but Linux solved that long ago | Apr 24 18:29 |
| neighborlee | a skunk is still a skunk ;) | Apr 24 18:29 |
| neighborlee | but yes about kde | Apr 24 18:29 |
| neighborlee | thats why im going pcbsd it uses kde,,never had mono never will | Apr 24 18:30 |
| neighborlee | faik anyway o_0 | Apr 24 18:30 |
| neighborlee | I mean it uses kde by default- | Apr 24 18:30 |
| neighborlee | I used to be into gnome for simpliicity sake ,,but pfft kde now with latest qt move | Apr 24 18:30 |
| neighborlee | oh well | Apr 24 18:31 |
| neighborlee | schestowitz, btw..thx a ton for url about matt..thats beyond stunning..I can't express the IRONY im too stunned :) | Apr 24 18:33 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Apple pisses off another group of diehard customers... time to switch to #Android !Linux, guys http://ur1.ca/wv2e | Apr 24 18:48 | |
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| Eruaran | What if | Apr 24 18:52 |
| Eruaran | IBM bought Novell... | Apr 24 18:53 |
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| DeadSuperHero | Howdy | Apr 24 18:56 |
| Eruaran | hi | Apr 24 19:00 |
| DeadSuperHero | How is everyone today? | Apr 24 19:00 |
| Eruaran | tired | Apr 24 19:01 |
| DeadSuperHero | Ah yep. | Apr 24 19:01 |
| MinceR | http://dos.pi-xi.net/macosx.png | Apr 24 19:03 |
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| schestowitz | [18:33] <neighborlee> schestowitz, btw..thx a ton for url about matt..thats beyond stunning..I can't express the IRONY im too stunned :) | Apr 24 19:06 |
| schestowitz | He is an "irrational hater" | Apr 24 19:06 |
| schestowitz | Canonical made an "irrational hater" is CTO | Apr 24 19:06 |
| schestowitz | *its | Apr 24 19:06 |
| schestowitz | Eruaran: that's possible (IBM buying Novell) | Apr 24 19:07 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it's the user's fault | Apr 24 19:07 |
| MinceR | yeah, he shouldn't use crApple products | Apr 24 19:08 |
| DeadSuperHero | It would be interesting to see how an IBM-Novell takeover would play out. | Apr 24 19:11 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 24 19:11 |
| DeadSuperHero | IBM might not be the best FOSS company in the world, but they hate Microsoft with a passion. | Apr 24 19:11 |
| MinceR | they don't seem to hate m$ enough. | Apr 24 19:13 |
| DeadSuperHero | Some is better than none I guess. | Apr 24 19:13 |
| DeadSuperHero | Still wish Sun was in the game. | Apr 24 19:13 |
| *MinceR wonders if ibm could afford to acquire m$ | Apr 24 19:14 | |
| DeadSuperHero | Oracle seems to be screwing up a lot of what Sun achieved. | Apr 24 19:14 |
| DeadSuperHero | And I dunno, that would be interesting. | Apr 24 19:14 |
| MinceR | it isn't easy to do things more screwed up than sun did already | Apr 24 19:14 |
| Eruaran | What would IBM want M$ for? | Apr 24 19:14 |
| DeadSuperHero | Patents. | Apr 24 19:14 |
| DeadSuperHero | :P | Apr 24 19:14 |
| Eruaran | toh | Apr 24 19:14 |
| Eruaran | of course | Apr 24 19:15 |
| MinceR | to get rid of dependencies | Apr 24 19:15 |
| MinceR | and to let the industry it gets its profit from flourish | Apr 24 19:15 |
| MinceR | (by removing the biggest threat to it) | Apr 24 19:15 |
| DeadSuperHero | It would be a beautiful irony, though, if all of Microsoft's patents went to the OIN. | Apr 24 19:16 |
| DeadSuperHero | Doesn't solve the problem of software patents, but it would get the big ones out of the way. | Apr 24 19:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] oi oi everyone, hows things today? having a good weekend? | Apr 24 19:16 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] kicking off by reviewing a bunch of python-snippets merge proposals | Apr 24 19:16 | |
| DeadSuperHero | Ah, Jono. | Apr 24 19:17 |
| DeadSuperHero | Gotta love his Python work. | Apr 24 19:17 |
| jono | DeadSuperHero, :) | Apr 24 19:18 |
| DeadSuperHero | :D | Apr 24 19:18 |
| DeadSuperHero | How goes PyJunior by the way? | Apr 24 19:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Cameron outlines manifesto http://www.b3ta.com/links/Cameron_Speech_Cut_Up | Apr 24 19:18 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: Microsoft is considered a "toxic asset" | Apr 24 19:21 |
| schestowitz | It's like buying SCO | Apr 24 19:21 |
| schestowitz | Who would want to acquire a gang of thugs? | Apr 24 19:21 |
| schestowitz | It's not good for a company's image | Apr 24 19:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | man | Apr 24 19:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | someone I know made a killing on SCO stock | Apr 24 19:22 |
| schestowitz | I exaggerated | Apr 24 19:22 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: shorting? | Apr 24 19:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: somewhat | Apr 24 19:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | remember when SCOX.PK hit rock bottom? | Apr 24 19:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | and started going up? | Apr 24 19:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | he bought a shitload at the bottom | Apr 24 19:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | and then sold right before the recent news a month ago with the court case saying they dont own anything at all | Apr 24 19:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | he made a few thousand on it | Apr 24 19:23 |
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| DeadSuperHero | Bah, Xchat crashed | Apr 24 19:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] We are tweaking some site graphics today http://techrights.org/2010/04/24/techrights-candidate-designs/ suggestions welcome! | Apr 24 19:31 | |
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| schestowitz | Heh. tough crowd: http://www.fsdaily.com/HighEnd/Ruby_for_NET_gets_stable_with_IronRuby_1_0 | Apr 24 19:32 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Ruby for .NET gets stable with IronRuby 1.0 | fsdaily.com - Free Software News .::. Size~: 31.34 KB | Apr 24 19:32 |
| MinceR | i think that logo is too busy -- so busy it distracts attention from the text | Apr 24 19:32 |
| MinceR | (but i'm no designer) | Apr 24 19:32 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I know | Apr 24 19:33 |
| schestowitz | I messed up | Apr 24 19:33 |
| schestowitz | Long story | Apr 24 19:33 |
| schestowitz | I have many other versions | Apr 24 19:33 |
| schestowitz | Basically, I could figure out the shadow | Apr 24 19:33 |
| schestowitz | I made it a JPEG first | Apr 24 19:33 |
| schestowitz | But it wouldn't fit with the BG | Apr 24 19:33 |
| schestowitz | So I played with shadows a litle, made it too big | Apr 24 19:33 |
| schestowitz | About 40kb (!!) | Apr 24 19:33 |
| schestowitz | Feel free to make something better | Apr 24 19:33 |
| schestowitz | I kept the front part to minimise misidentification | Apr 24 19:34 |
| Eruaran | I wasnt expecting schestowitz to post everything I'd been playing with | Apr 24 19:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Mums machine has had port 22 open for a few hours, already one entry in /etc/hosts.deny - luckily not my IP :) | Apr 24 19:36 | |
| Eruaran | schestowitz: is it better for you if a logo is bigger or smaller? | Apr 24 19:37 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] The Follow Up Letter I Used For 'This Ain’t No Popularity Contest – It’s Politics', Copies Were Sent To The Government http://bit.ly/92PuAU | Apr 24 19:46 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Added new python snippets for sending email, using webkit, a stack of new pyturtle examples, gtk message dialog example and more! | Apr 24 19:53 | |
| neighborlee | schestowitz, gotta say I LOVE the source take on this whole zimmerman thing..raw comedy at its finest ;) | Apr 24 19:54 |
| neighborlee | rofl | Apr 24 19:54 |
| neighborlee | made by day ;) | Apr 24 19:54 |
| neighborlee | ....my | Apr 24 19:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] I also fixed a packaging bug so the daily PPA should be working now. We now have the grand total of 210 snippets! :-) | Apr 24 19:54 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @drchuck: New Blog Post: Jono Bacon, “The Engines Of Community” - http://www.dr-chuck.com/csev-blog/ - Thanks to @AmyStephen for the link | Apr 24 20:09 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Doughnut mitosis http://kevinvanaelst.com/cellularmitosisweb.jpg | Apr 24 20:15 | |
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| schestowitz | Eruaran: can only downsize it, not upsize it later | Apr 24 20:21 |
| schestowitz | But Eruaran, don't worry about it | Apr 24 20:21 |
| schestowitz | Eruaran: re your designs: http://identi.ca/notice/29828806 "@schestowitz the first approach is the best. by far (but not finished in my eyes)." | Apr 24 20:34 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/29753705#notice-29832445 "@schestowitz biggest thing that would help is smooshing or stretching that picture back to a reasonable aspect. gimp can do it!" | Apr 24 20:35 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.androidguys.com/2010/04/23/android-market-hit-50000-apps-time-google-io/ | Apr 24 20:37 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Android Market to Hit 50,000 Apps in Time for Google I/O | AndroidGuys .::. Size~: 34.89 KB | Apr 24 20:37 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know Timothy B. Lee was a postgrad http://timothyblee.com/2010/04/21/blogging-break/ | Apr 24 20:39 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Blogging Break « Bottom-up .::. Size~: 5.67 KB | Apr 24 20:39 |
| schestowitz | "It’s that time of the semester again. In the interests of not flunking out of grad school, I’ll be taking another break from blogging to focus on my studies. I’ll be back in June." | Apr 24 20:39 |
| satipera | Hi all, schestowitz I have just been looking at a couple of logo design sites, I did not realise there was so much too it. | Apr 24 20:41 |
| satipera | So much to take into consideration | Apr 24 20:42 |
| satipera | Have you made a decision yet? | Apr 24 20:43 |
| Eruaran | I have added some more | Apr 24 20:43 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.styleite.com/retail/gucci-sues-chanel/ | Apr 24 20:46 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Gucci Sues Chanel - Accidentally | Styleite .::. Size~: 22.09 KB | Apr 24 20:46 |
| schestowitz | Eruaran: where? There's already one at the top, not sure what to do next, but it looks kind of reasonable | Apr 24 20:47 |
| Eruaran | http://picasaweb.google.com/farrance.jeremy/Techrights#5463787743290449714 | Apr 24 20:48 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Picasa Web Albums - farrance.jeremy - Techrights .::. Size~: 52.04 KB | Apr 24 20:48 |
| Eruaran | I kind of like 12 and 13 at the moment... | Apr 24 20:49 |
| Eruaran | But I'm sure that will change after I've slept on it | Apr 24 20:50 |
| schestowitz | http://webmink.com/2010/04/24/links-for-2010-04-24/ | Apr 24 20:54 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: ☞ Fixing Government Procurement « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 37.84 KB | Apr 24 20:54 |
| schestowitz | "Roy is right – it’s really bad practice for journalists to talk about security and usability issues on Windows as “computer issues” without pointing out they are on Windows. The same journalists call out Mac and Linux issues so they should also name (and shame) Windows when it’s a problem on Windows." | Apr 24 20:54 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Apr 24 20:54 |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20003308-37.html | Apr 24 20:56 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Lost iPhone prototype spurs police probe | Apple - CNET News .::. Size~: 227.6 KB | Apr 24 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Idiots | Apr 24 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Cult | Apr 24 20:56 |
| schestowitz | http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/1225/elements-of-twitter-style | Apr 24 20:58 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Red Sweater Blog Elements Of Twitter Style .::. Size~: 60.02 KB | Apr 24 20:58 |
| *schestowitz looks at images | Apr 24 20:58 | |
| schestowitz | Eruaran: added | Apr 24 21:05 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/04/24/techrights-candidate-designs/#comment-89874 | Apr 24 21:05 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Eruarans Candidate Designs | Techrights .::. Size~: 94.46 KB | Apr 24 21:05 |
| ThistleWeb | oh, seen the logo ideas, some nice designs | Apr 24 21:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewarticle/articleid/4057754 | Apr 24 21:08 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: ITRIM | Apr 24 21:08 |
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| schestowitz | Remember? | Apr 24 21:08 |
| schestowitz | We almost made it that | Apr 24 21:09 |
| ThistleWeb | uhm | Apr 24 21:09 |
| ThistleWeb | possibly | Apr 24 21:09 |
| ThistleWeb | plenty of iSatire names | Apr 24 21:09 |
| schestowitz | or itmonitor | Apr 24 21:09 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah | Apr 24 21:09 |
| schestowitz | iGnorance | Apr 24 21:09 |
| schestowitz | iGnorance 3G | Apr 24 21:09 |
| ThistleWeb | lol, I like that | Apr 24 21:09 |
| MinceR | so do i | Apr 24 21:10 |
| ThistleWeb | or iGnored | Apr 24 21:10 |
| schestowitz | The brain damage passes for 3 generations | Apr 24 21:10 |
| ThistleWeb | given how they treat user opinions | Apr 24 21:10 |
| ThistleWeb | or dev opinions | Apr 24 21:10 |
| Aondo | hmm they have a logo sprint with that durian project now as well, called sintel. many good contributions there for ideas :D | Apr 24 21:10 |
| Omar87-away | schestowitz, I really wonder what makes people spend hours writing useless moonshine. | Apr 24 21:10 |
| ThistleWeb | on the logo designs, I like the green blends | Apr 24 21:10 |
| schestowitz | http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewiStockNews/articleid/4057853 | Apr 24 21:10 |
| schestowitz | "he was serenaded by the men's choir of John Knox Village in Pompano Beach while about two dozen members of the village chapter of the Red Hat (NYSE:RHT) Society applauded the woman they call their "queen bee."" | Apr 24 21:10 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: 93-year-old WASP flies WW2 trainer .::. Size~: 69.05 KB | Apr 24 21:11 |
| ThistleWeb | the binary-like ones in the middle are far too hard to read | Apr 24 21:11 |
| schestowitz | Omar87-away: do they? | Apr 24 21:11 |
| schestowitz | Moonshine or Moon Lie? | Apr 24 21:11 |
| *Omar87-away is now known as Omar87 | Apr 24 21:11 | |
| schestowitz | Moonshine does exist | Apr 24 21:11 |
| ThistleWeb | not sure about the vertical layout either, but flip them 90* and it's a different thing | Apr 24 21:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | Moonshine... what | Apr 24 21:11 |
| schestowitz | And I haven't heard from it for almost a year | Apr 24 21:11 |
| schestowitz | http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2009/Feb-12.html | Apr 24 21:12 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Moonshine - Miguel de Icaza .::. Size~: 14.18 KB | Apr 24 21:12 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, not "Monlight". "Moonshine" here = "Nonesense", "Horse shit" | Apr 24 21:12 |
| schestowitz | He misspelled "shite' | Apr 24 21:12 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, I'm not talking about Mono. | Apr 24 21:12 |
| schestowitz | Moon Lie is not doing well, either | Apr 24 21:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | dude | Apr 24 21:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | moonshine == privately owned stills making booze | Apr 24 21:13 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, for example, check out this stupid article: http://www.tannerhelland.com/commentary/ubuntu-linux/dear-ubuntu-windows-7-is-great/ | Apr 24 21:13 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Dear Ubuntu: I Have Some Concerns Tanner Helland (dot) Com .::. Size~: 57.27 KB | Apr 24 21:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | quit mispurposing words | Apr 24 21:13 |
| Omar87 | Diablo-D3, mispurposing, you say? | Apr 24 21:16 |
| Omar87 | Diablo-D3, actually, according to Google translate "Moonshine" which refers to the disallowed liquor also means "Nonsense, Bulls**t, etc.". | Apr 24 21:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, and thats mispurposing. | Apr 24 21:22 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] I read RationalWiki for the book reviews. http://is.gd/bGv1d | Apr 24 21:22 | |
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| schestowitz | watch linux.com promoting WIndows products: http://www.linux.com/news/embedded-mobile/netbooks/300968:hp-slate-more-netbook-than-ipad | Apr 24 21:23 |
| Omar87 | Diablo-D3, okay. Then how about this: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/moonshine | Apr 24 21:23 |
| schestowitz | I think they run a semi-bot to post these, so the links there are junk in general (except jono 's :-)) | Apr 24 21:23 |
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| schestowitz | [21:13] <Diablo-D3> moonshine == privately owned stills making booze | Apr 24 21:23 |
| schestowitz | Also a nice song | Apr 24 21:23 |
| Omar87 | Diablo-D3, [3. (colloquial) nonsense: "He was talking moonshine." | Apr 24 21:24 |
| Omar87 | ]* | Apr 24 21:24 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: moonshine is a nice word | Apr 24 21:24 |
| schestowitz | Some people ruined it | Apr 24 21:24 |
| schestowitz | I'd never associated "moonlight" the real thing anyway, because of Novell | Apr 24 21:25 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, I know. It sounds amusing to using negatively. | Apr 24 21:25 |
| Omar87 | to use* it* negatively. | Apr 24 21:25 |
| schestowitz | Moonlight would guide ancient men | Apr 24 21:26 |
| schestowitz | at night | Apr 24 21:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I've just realised that Moonlight is a good name for Moon Lie; the whole light is just the Sun's reflection ((Java ripoff) | Apr 24 21:26 | |
| schestowitz | the only source of light to keep them oriented | Apr 24 21:26 |
| schestowitz | http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/20/google_chrome_os_fresh/ | Apr 24 21:27 |
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| Eruaran | lol that idiot who wrote the 'dear ubuntu' piece thinks Windows Security Essentials is "surprisingly good" | Apr 24 21:32 |
| Eruaran | what a tard | Apr 24 21:32 |
| Eruaran | WSE is no better than AVG, which I remove from people's Windows systems every week because its completely useless | Apr 24 21:33 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, exactly! What more moonshine than that do we want? :P | Apr 24 21:34 |
| schestowitz | ASUS is back to Linux: http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20100423PD207.html | Apr 24 21:34 |
| schestowitz | Vista 7 not even on their agenda | Apr 24 21:34 |
| MinceR | m$ didn't pay enough? | Apr 24 21:34 |
| Eruaran | Its not just FOSS users who wont be impressed - ANYONE who services PC's knows better... this guy might as well put a neon sign on his blog saying "HEY EVERYBODY I'M A MORON" | Apr 24 21:34 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: as Joseph Tartakoff later points out : "Microsoft's online losses up to a staggering $713 million, from $411 million a year ago" | Apr 24 21:35 |
| schestowitz | That's in ONE QUARTER | Apr 24 21:35 |
| schestowitz | Linux @ Dell http://www.enterprisemobiletoday.com/news/article.php/3878271/Dell-Android-Mobile-Device-Trio-Thunder-Flash-Smoke-Smartphones.htm | Apr 24 21:36 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, oh boy. I wonder where will the end up by the next quarter. $1000 million perhaps? | Apr 24 21:39 |
| MinceR | what's "online losses"? | Apr 24 21:39 |
| Omar87 | where *they will* end up.. | Apr 24 21:39 |
| MinceR | negative profits generated by their online business (bingo and stuff like that)? | Apr 24 21:40 |
| MinceR | (and bingo was his name-o...) | Apr 24 21:40 |
| Eruaran | Windows 7 still has the same "disappearing icon" bug that Vista had for ages. It's still not fixed. Now, if any of the popular Linux distro's suffered from such an asthetically displeasing issue the turfers would be howling about how Linux is not ready for the desktop. | Apr 24 21:41 |
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| Eruaran | How many Windows 7 systems are affected? All of them - we fix the issue with a little workaround before the customer gets it. | Apr 24 21:41 |
| Eruaran | Why do we do this? | Apr 24 21:42 |
| MinceR | if we applied the turfers' alleged standards for "readiness for the desktop", we would probably find that there's no OS out there that's "ready for the desktop" | Apr 24 21:42 |
| Eruaran | Who do you think the customer will blame if their icons look like shit? | Apr 24 21:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Gizmodo sending out piles of DMCA notices ... while blatantly stealing photos http://j.mp/aHEjwv | Apr 24 21:42 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Gizmodo Caught In Copyright Crossfire | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 63.81 KB | Apr 24 21:42 |
| ThistleWeb | seems that "ready for the desktop" means "are there enough security flaws in it to sustain an industry of third party sellers offering a cure that will only partly work" | Apr 24 21:46 |
| ThistleWeb | by that test, Windows is way ahead | Apr 24 21:46 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 24 21:47 |
| ThistleWeb | "does it shut down when it's told?" "yes" "FAIL" | Apr 24 21:47 |
| cubezzz | windows was always a scrub OS | Apr 24 21:49 |
| MinceR | no, it used to be a scrub windowing system ;) | Apr 24 21:49 |
| Eruaran | "does it do anything without your explicit permission?" - "no" - "WE CAN'T HAVE THAT!" | Apr 24 21:49 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran: Surprisingly though, this "Dear Ubuntu" article seems to have received quite an audience at FSDaily. I wonder if all these gentle weren't drunk on moonshine before they decided to vote it up. | Apr 24 21:49 |
| schestowitz | wb, DaemonFC | Apr 24 21:49 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Tories: "Hung parliament=>economic MELTDOWN!" Moody's: "Bollocks it will." http://is.gd/bGwnX | Apr 24 21:49 | |
| schestowitz | How have you been? | Apr 24 21:49 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Tory claims that hung parliament would cause meltdown are dismissed -UK Politics, UK - The Independent .::. Size~: 268.64 KB | Apr 24 21:49 |
| ThistleWeb | it is amazing how many peeps hail Windows as secure, without thinking that without the AV industry filling the holes for yrs, windows woulda been DOA years ago | Apr 24 21:49 |
| Eruaran | Omar87: Microsoft preys upon ignorance | Apr 24 21:50 |
| ThistleWeb | peeps KNOW they cant use windows without all that extra stuff, yet still think it's secure | Apr 24 21:50 |
| cubezzz | even early apples used microsoft basic | Apr 24 21:50 |
| MinceR | they probably would use it without all that and consider it normal | Apr 24 21:50 |
| cubezzz | they really tried hard to inject themselves onto PCs | Apr 24 21:50 |
| MinceR | m$ has managed to lower users' standards a lot | Apr 24 21:50 |
| Eruaran | billyg was "inspired" by the work of others even with BASIC | Apr 24 21:51 |
| cubezzz | and by PC I really mean "home computer" | Apr 24 21:51 |
| ThistleWeb | it'd be a great demo for some group like the EFF to do, a normal install side by side, windows 7 and any linux distro, only allow updates of default preinstalled apps.....then do a suite of tests on both | Apr 24 21:51 |
| cubezzz | yeah I know :) | Apr 24 21:51 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, exactly. But what surprised me more is that among the vote-uppers are guys like Lozz and Stargrave (who are usually anti-mono and anti-MS horse shit) | Apr 24 21:51 |
| cubezzz | they are thieves | Apr 24 21:51 |
| ThistleWeb | no additional config, no installing of any apps.....only updating what it came with to the latest versions | Apr 24 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Eruaran: there's an old saying, there are three types of computer users | Apr 24 21:52 |
| ThistleWeb | see how secure windows is then | Apr 24 21:52 |
| Eruaran | I looked at that 'dear ubuntu' piece for about two seconds and knew even a half assed technician will laugh at this idiot | Apr 24 21:52 |
| schestowitz | 1) those who don't know computers; 2) those who don't care about computers; 3) those who exploit (1) and (2) | Apr 24 21:52 |
| DeadSuperHero | Fair way to look at it. | Apr 24 21:52 |
| ThistleWeb | stuff like that dear ubuntu peice are not aimed at tech peeps though | Apr 24 21:52 |
| cubezzz | another thing Microsoft does is drop support for old hardware | Apr 24 21:52 |
| DeadSuperHero | Though I suppose the spectrum of users is a bit more than that. | Apr 24 21:53 |
| cubezzz | where on Linux you can always stick stuff back in if you want | Apr 24 21:53 |
| Eruaran | I freely share information with customers | Apr 24 21:53 |
| Eruaran | a lot of places dont | Apr 24 21:53 |
| DeadSuperHero | Yup. | Apr 24 21:53 |
| Eruaran | they think they will go out of business | Apr 24 21:53 |
| Eruaran | I say, rubbish | Apr 24 21:53 |
| cubezzz | I tell people lots of stuff | Apr 24 21:54 |
| cubezzz | they don't absorb it most of the time | Apr 24 21:54 |
| Eruaran | withholding information is not only bad ethics, it is a false economy | Apr 24 21:54 |
| cubezzz | just like I don't know how to fix a car | Apr 24 21:54 |
| Eruaran | exactly | Apr 24 21:54 |
| ThistleWeb | MS tell peeps loadsa stuff too, it just has a passing resemblance to reality and always favours their agenda | Apr 24 21:54 |
| Eruaran | if you want you can learn everything you need to know about your car on the web | Apr 24 21:54 |
| Eruaran | but you dont | Apr 24 21:54 |
| schestowitz | The car agents stock just one cat | Apr 24 21:55 |
| Eruaran | it doesn't matter that the information is freely available - not everyone has the time or inclination to become a mechanic | Apr 24 21:55 |
| cubezzz | well, I don't drive :) | Apr 24 21:55 |
| schestowitz | *Car | Apr 24 21:55 |
| schestowitz | In different colours | Apr 24 21:55 |
| cubezzz | waste of money | Apr 24 21:55 |
| cubezzz | and fixing cars is getting more difficult | Apr 24 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Windowsmobil | Apr 24 21:55 |
| cubezzz | fixing computers is getting a bit easier | Apr 24 21:56 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Amusement/images/microsoftmobile.png | Apr 24 21:56 |
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| cubezzz | but yes, I have a natural inclination to learn computers, but not cars | Apr 24 21:56 |
| Eruaran | a mechanic can wax lyrical about all kinds of technical issues with cars - my eyes will soon glaze over and I'll pay him to fix my car | Apr 24 21:56 |
| cubezzz | it's similar :) | Apr 24 21:57 |
| Eruaran | yes | Apr 24 21:57 |
| cubezzz | my interest in old Amiga computers could be compared to a car guy keeping is 60's corvette in mint condition | Apr 24 21:58 |
| ThistleWeb | the disreputable mechanic can do a half assed repair knowing you'll be back, or sell you stuff you dont need | Apr 24 21:58 |
| cubezzz | possible, but... | Apr 24 21:58 |
| ThistleWeb | same model as PC repair | Apr 24 21:59 |
| cubezzz | I don't own a car now :) | Apr 24 21:59 |
| ThistleWeb | if the customer knows no different, they are open to being fleeced | Apr 24 21:59 |
| cubezzz | more money for computers, yay :) | Apr 24 21:59 |
| cubezzz | cars eat money more than computers do | Apr 24 21:59 |
| cubezzz | gas is like a dollar per litre | Apr 24 22:00 |
| ThistleWeb | depends if you're constantly led to believe you gotta install trialware stuff to do stuff | Apr 24 22:00 |
| ThistleWeb | then pay out when the date expires | Apr 24 22:00 |
| ThistleWeb | so every other month you're paying out more money | Apr 24 22:00 |
| cubezzz | what trialware? :) | Apr 24 22:00 |
| ThistleWeb | shareware | Apr 24 22:01 |
| ThistleWeb | works fully for like 30 days, then locks down until you pay for it | Apr 24 22:01 |
| ThistleWeb | windows thang | Apr 24 22:01 |
| cubezzz | ahhh | Apr 24 22:01 |
| cubezzz | I see :) | Apr 24 22:01 |
| cubezzz | sounds kind of crappy | Apr 24 22:01 |
| ThistleWeb | shareware, same thing | Apr 24 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | "Starting January 06, 2010, Netflix reached an agreement with Warner Bros. Studios to delay renting new releases for 28 days from their retail release in an attempt to help Studios sell more physical media at retail outlets." | Apr 24 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | Like that's going to work | Apr 24 22:02 |
| cubezzz | meh | Apr 24 22:02 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/21/oklahoma-abortion-united-states-bill | Apr 24 22:02 |
| Eruaran | I reckon Microsoft has lost a generation of pc users in Brazil | Apr 24 22:02 |
| schestowitz | o'boy | Apr 24 22:02 |
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| cubezzz | there's no movies I even like anyway | Apr 24 22:02 |
| cubezzz | hopefully more than that Eruaran | Apr 24 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: I'm waiting on my Wii Netflix disc | Apr 24 22:02 |
| Eruaran | children growing up with Linux through the education system in Brazil | Apr 24 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | until then I have to use Silver Blight and watch them on my PC | Apr 24 22:03 |
| Eruaran | they're not going to put up with Windows | Apr 24 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | I at least figured out how to make it work in Opera | Apr 24 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 24 22:03 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100422/0944109138.shtml | Apr 24 22:03 |
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| schestowitz | http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2010/04/hulu-pushes-forward-with-995-subscription-service.html | Apr 24 22:03 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, and Venezuela, and Ecuador, and Russia, and Munich, and Dominic Republic... etc. | Apr 24 22:03 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Hulu pushes forward with $9.95 subscription service | Company Town | Los Angeles Times .::. Size~: 130.03 KB | Apr 24 22:03 |
| Eruaran | If you're used to GNU/Linux you're not going to have any patience for Windows issues. | Apr 24 22:03 |
| cubezzz | I never did | Apr 24 22:03 |
| cubezzz | have patience for doze | Apr 24 22:04 |
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| cubezzz | I made a bad mistake, giving up on Amiga in the early 90's | Apr 24 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | well, $8.99 a month flat rate is a hell of alot better than Comcast On Demand where you pay $3.99 for older movies, $4.99 for new ones, and $5.99 for HD | Apr 24 22:04 |
| DeadSuperHero | cubezzz, Ah back on a familiar topic again. :D | Apr 24 22:04 |
| schestowitz | The MITS guy, Roberts, still used it in the clinic | Apr 24 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | so basically if I rent two movies on Comcast that month I paid more than the all you can eat fee on Netflix :P | Apr 24 22:05 |
| cubezzz | it's true though.... commodore computers are still the best documented | Apr 24 22:05 |
| schestowitz | Renting films is something that Google TV/YouTube can replace | Apr 24 22:05 |
| schestowitz | We'll see how it pans out... | Apr 24 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Not even the rental stores are charging $5 for a one night rental | Apr 24 22:05 |
| Omar87 | cubezzz, the question is: are they still around? | Apr 24 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | most of them are about $2.50 for 3 nights or so | Apr 24 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | Comcast is salty as hell | Apr 24 22:06 |
| cubezzz | Omar87, sort of | Apr 24 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 24 22:06 |
| cubezzz | there is http://amigakit.com | Apr 24 22:06 |
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| Omar87 | cubezzz, hopefully not in the Louvre. :P | Apr 24 22:06 |
| DeadSuperHero | cubezzz, A-Eon updated their site. | Apr 24 22:06 |
| DeadSuperHero | http://a-eon.com/ | Apr 24 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | Why does Comcast charge double just to stream a file? | Apr 24 22:07 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: A-EON Technology .::. Size~: 4.41 KB | Apr 24 22:07 |
| schestowitz | RMS: "Brazilian indigenous people threaten war to stop a dam that would flood their lands. " | Apr 24 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | the rental stores have to maintain the store and a physical inventory :P | Apr 24 22:07 |
| cubezzz | oooo | Apr 24 22:07 |
| cubezzz | X1000 this summer :-0 | Apr 24 22:07 |
| DeadSuperHero | I also like how unique their site looks. | Apr 24 22:08 |
| DeadSuperHero | Not some Apple clone. | Apr 24 22:08 |
| schestowitz | DeadSuperHero: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/19/women-blame-earthquakes-iran-cleric | Apr 24 22:08 |
| cubezzz | how much $$$ I wonder | Apr 24 22:08 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Women to blame for earthquakes, says Iran cleric |World news |guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 59.62 KB | Apr 24 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Islamic Robertson? | Apr 24 22:09 |
| DeadSuperHero | schestowitz, That's horrible. | Apr 24 22:09 |
| DeadSuperHero | You'd think there was already enough discrimination in the world as it were. | Apr 24 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Well, not enough apparently | Apr 24 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Falwel blamed gays for 9/11 | Apr 24 22:09 |
| DeadSuperHero | Stuff like that just makes me angry. | Apr 24 22:10 |
| schestowitz | Because, as you know, those plane hijackers were all gay /;-S | Apr 24 22:10 |
| cubezzz | riiiight | Apr 24 22:10 |
| MinceR | hijacking planes is so gay | Apr 24 22:10 |
| MinceR | ;) | Apr 24 22:10 |
| schestowitz | I bet they were smiling when they dived into WTC | Apr 24 22:10 |
| schestowitz | Jerking off in the cockpit | Apr 24 22:11 |
| DeadSuperHero | I still like the rumors that 9/11 was an inside job. | Apr 24 22:11 |
| DeadSuperHero | Not entirely out of the question really. | Apr 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | Too complicated | Apr 24 22:11 |
| DeadSuperHero | Perhaps, but not impossible. | Apr 24 22:12 |
| DeadSuperHero | Then again. | Apr 24 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Where are those so-called ninjas who allegedly planted explosives? Nowhere. They would have blown the whistle | Apr 24 22:12 |
| DeadSuperHero | Who knows? | Apr 24 22:12 |
| DeadSuperHero | I theorize that the truth is either somewhere in the middle, or far more horrible than we can imagine. | Apr 24 22:12 |
| DeadSuperHero | Either way, it remains unknown. | Apr 24 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Passiveness in intervention maybe | Apr 24 22:12 |
| DeadSuperHero | There are plenty of other reasons to distrust the US Government anyways. | Apr 24 22:13 |
| schestowitz | There are plots every day | Apr 24 22:13 |
| schestowitz | In Africa, Yemen, etc. | Apr 24 22:13 |
| satipera | The real importance of 9/11 is what followed not the incident or who did it | Apr 24 22:13 |
| schestowitz | Apathy is enough to let that happen | Apr 24 22:13 |
| DeadSuperHero | True. | Apr 24 22:13 |
| schestowitz | USS Cole.. | Apr 24 22:13 |
| schestowitz | http://www.archive.org/download/CopyingIsNotTheft-Best/CINT_Nik_H264_720.ogv | Apr 24 22:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Copying is Not Theft (Ogg Video) http://ur1.ca/wvvh Simple reminder of how copyright works; pass it on #sharing #copyright | Apr 24 22:19 | |
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| satipera | Hmm latest Dotor Who episode set in 51st century and they are using feet instead of metres | Apr 24 22:20 |
| MinceR | the british took over the planet? | Apr 24 22:21 |
| MinceR | or the usians? | Apr 24 22:21 |
| satipera | It must have been the 51st and not the 21st that is the american century | Apr 24 22:21 |
| neighborlee | schestowitz, its what happens when zealots get ahold of 'the word' :),,happened to jesus 2000 years ago...goes to show much has changed, but alot hasn't as well ;) | Apr 24 22:21 |
| satipera | mincer , you say usians? | Apr 24 22:21 |
| MinceR | i do | Apr 24 22:21 |
| satipera | where does that come from | Apr 24 22:21 |
| neighborlee | schestowitz, and its only changing now that some muslims have finally spoken out loudly , that islam is NOT about inflicting pain . | Apr 24 22:21 |
| MinceR | do you prefer "jesuslanders"? :> | Apr 24 22:21 |
| neighborlee | schestowitz, some muslim clerics that is.. | Apr 24 22:22 |
| MinceR | satipera: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_for_U.S._citizens | Apr 24 22:22 |
| satipera | i use usonian but had not heard of usians | Apr 24 22:22 |
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| satipera | looking | Apr 24 22:22 |
| satipera | yes, i see it is there with usonian | Apr 24 22:23 |
| MinceR | so far i've only seen use of the term "usonian" on wikipedia | Apr 24 22:24 |
| satipera | i prefer to use that term as obviously a canadian is an american too | Apr 24 22:24 |
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| MinceR | and iirc people were confused when i tried using it | Apr 24 22:24 |
| schestowitz | neighborlee: well, there are about a billion. All religions have their problems | Apr 24 22:24 |
| schestowitz | Proportion is what matters | Apr 24 22:24 |
| satipera | i use usonian occasionally and should do more | Apr 24 22:24 |
| satipera | mincer, set a trend | Apr 24 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Americans means someone from the continent | Apr 24 22:25 |
| satipera | yes | Apr 24 22:25 |
| schestowitz | I rarely say "America" | Apr 24 22:25 |
| schestowitz | America=Canada | Apr 24 22:25 |
| schestowitz | If anything | Apr 24 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Largest country | Apr 24 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Brazil largest populaiton | Apr 24 22:25 |
| satipera | which is why american does not really work | Apr 24 22:25 |
| schestowitz | US=highest wealth | Apr 24 22:25 |
| neighborlee | schestowitz, yes they all do and the fix is the same ;) | Apr 24 22:25 |
| schestowitz | And Americans came from Canada too | Apr 24 22:26 |
| satipera | usonian is specific and has a heritage | Apr 24 22:26 |
| schestowitz | via north Asia | Apr 24 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Now they are mostly in the south | Apr 24 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Pushed down by the Europeans | Apr 24 22:26 |
| satipera | and pushing back | Apr 24 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Even Mexico shrank by half | Apr 24 22:26 |
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| Eruaran | Someone from Candada is Canadian... Someone from the USA is... USAdian? | Apr 24 22:27 |
| schestowitz | satipera: heh | Apr 24 22:27 |
| schestowitz | Tell that to DaemonFC | Apr 24 22:27 |
| schestowitz | He does not acknowledge history | Apr 24 22:27 |
| schestowitz | Eruaran: USian | Apr 24 22:27 |
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| satipera | people concentrate on what suit them | Apr 24 22:27 |
| satipera | mexicans are only reclaiming what was theirs | Apr 24 22:28 |
| schestowitz | what's taught in the classroom | Apr 24 22:28 |
| satipera | i wonder if i will see a hispanic potus in my lifetime | Apr 24 22:28 |
| schestowitz | Doesn't matter | Apr 24 22:28 |
| schestowitz | They are the same | Apr 24 22:28 |
| schestowitz | Human beings | Apr 24 22:28 |
| schestowitz | They can mix.. melting pot | Apr 24 22:28 |
| schestowitz | It's all small DNA variations anyway | Apr 24 22:29 |
| satipera | agreed, but a sign of political change | Apr 24 22:29 |
| schestowitz | And the borders represent segregation based on DNA dissimilarity | Apr 24 22:29 |
| schestowitz | Some centuries ago you couldn't have "mixed" kids | Apr 24 22:29 |
| schestowitz | You'd be outcast | Apr 24 22:29 |
| schestowitz | Like whites who raped their slaves | Apr 24 22:29 |
| satipera | capitalism has one good thing going for it | Apr 24 22:29 |
| satipera | two | Apr 24 22:30 |
| schestowitz | More than 2 | Apr 24 22:30 |
| schestowitz | But we don't have capitalism | Apr 24 22:30 |
| satipera | it is in the process of killing off the nation state | Apr 24 22:30 |
| schestowitz | We have something they /call/ "capitalism" | Apr 24 22:30 |
| schestowitz | Same for "democracy" | Apr 24 22:30 |
| schestowitz | These are concepts, not actual examples that exist | Apr 24 22:30 |
| schestowitz | In Sweden, few people vote at all | Apr 24 22:31 |
| satipera | yes capitalism as practiced is a mongrel | Apr 24 22:31 |
| schestowitz | In the US, corporations vote | Apr 24 22:31 |
| schestowitz | With their wallet | Apr 24 22:31 |
| schestowitz | Public can come and approve corp's decision based on PR campigns | Apr 24 22:31 |
| schestowitz | UK is more democratic | Apr 24 22:31 |
| schestowitz | 3 parties even | Apr 24 22:31 |
| satipera | no | Apr 24 22:31 |
| schestowitz | '3' | Apr 24 22:31 |
| satipera | it is only a matter of degree | Apr 24 22:31 |
| schestowitz | And not the same factions, either | Apr 24 22:32 |
| satipera | democracy is like free beer tomorrow | Apr 24 22:32 |
| schestowitz | Hangover? | Apr 24 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | "Memory can change the shape of a room; it can change the color of a car. And memories can be distorted. They're just an interpretation, they're not a record, and they're irrelevant if you have the facts." | Apr 24 22:32 |
| satipera | i was thinking more of an ideal that will never happen | Apr 24 22:32 |
| *DaemonFC is watching Memento | Apr 24 22:33 | |
| satipera | a vote every 5 years does not stand a chance against what happens in between votes | Apr 24 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | speaking of memories, a had a minor disaster last night | Apr 24 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 24 22:34 |
| satipera | so we have the term mis-remembered | Apr 24 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | my ex, the first ex, who I have not seen since 2004 | Apr 24 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | found me and drove all the way here from the other side of the state | Apr 24 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | uninvited, unannounced, and frankly unwelcome | Apr 24 22:35 |
| satipera | ha ha | Apr 24 22:35 |
| satipera | she changed her mind then | Apr 24 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | he | Apr 24 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | and no | Apr 24 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | I think it was just to twist the knife | Apr 24 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | people are sadistic | Apr 24 22:36 |
| satipera | like marge said in the simpsons women can hold on to it for all their life | Apr 24 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | drives 150 miles to reopen old wounds, like I'm not suffering enough lately or something | Apr 24 22:37 |
| satipera | you are lucky i still live in the same place as my ex mrs | Apr 24 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | for what I can only assume was personal amusement | Apr 24 22:37 |
| satipera | she must have been motivated | Apr 24 22:37 |
| satipera | to make all that effort | Apr 24 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | motivated to rub in the fact that he has a nice car, a nice house, a nice job | Apr 24 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | why the hell does he have to come here to kick me? | Apr 24 22:38 |
| satipera | he? | Apr 24 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Apr 24 22:38 |
| *MinceR is looking at houses designed by Frank Lloyd Wright | Apr 24 22:39 | |
| DaemonFC | I should have told him to get lost and slammed the door, but no | Apr 24 22:39 |
| satipera | i thought it was just your ex who turned up | Apr 24 22:39 |
| satipera | mincer has been looking up usonian | Apr 24 22:39 |
| satipera | it is not strictly an architects term | Apr 24 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | I want to say I was reading him and he carried himself like something was wrong | Apr 24 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | or about to go wrong | Apr 24 22:40 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 24 22:40 |
| satipera | fc so what was their stated reason for calling | Apr 24 22:40 |
| MinceR | i originally found the term when i was reading about Fallingwater | Apr 24 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | "Had vacation days, took the week off work so as to not lose them" | Apr 24 22:41 |
| satipera | fallingwater? | Apr 24 22:41 |
| MinceR | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallingwater | Apr 24 22:41 |
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| satipera | but why visit you | Apr 24 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | no clue | Apr 24 22:41 |
| satipera | looks nice there | Apr 24 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | like I'm going to make things better for anyone :P | Apr 24 22:42 |
| satipera | fc its a bit wierd really | Apr 24 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | most people treat me like I'm radioactive and they'll die if they come close | Apr 24 22:43 |
| satipera | why so | Apr 24 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | to have someone show up unannounced of their own choosing is unheard of | Apr 24 22:43 |
| satipera | why would people treat you as if you are radio active | Apr 24 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | probably cause I'm broke | Apr 24 22:44 |
| satipera | well people can be shallow | Apr 24 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | if I was better off financially, I think that would turn the magnet back on | Apr 24 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | most people are shallow | Apr 24 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | vapid even | Apr 24 22:44 |
| satipera | i have observed that people seem to be nicer to those people that are useful to them | Apr 24 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not excluding myself from that assessment | Apr 24 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, advantageous to them, for now, until that other person won't let them sponge anymore | Apr 24 22:45 |
| satipera | the thing is not to take life too seriously | Apr 24 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | money or state of mind | Apr 24 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | all people like money, most people like making you miserable | Apr 24 22:46 |
| satipera | or take things personally | Apr 24 22:46 |
| satipera | talking about money | Apr 24 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | money only has people masking their contempt for you while they sponge | Apr 24 22:47 |
| satipera | did you hear about that russian mathematician | Apr 24 22:47 |
| satipera | genius bloke | Apr 24 22:47 |
| satipera | solved a long standing problem | Apr 24 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | when the money runs out, they'll turn into emotional vampires | Apr 24 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | start making you feel bad about yourself | Apr 24 22:48 |
| satipera | won a million quid or so and said he did not want it | Apr 24 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | when they've destroyed you, they'll leave | Apr 24 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 24 22:48 |
| satipera | we are only animals do not expect too much | Apr 24 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | I'd take the winnings, satipera | Apr 24 22:49 |
| satipera | ha ha | Apr 24 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | and when everyone that fucked with me over the years came crawling back..... | Apr 24 22:49 |
| satipera | people triede to to get him to take it and he would not | Apr 24 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | I'd tell them that they didn't like me before I had money, so I don't want them near me now | Apr 24 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | that would be like winning the lottery again | Apr 24 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | back to back | Apr 24 22:50 |
| satipera | i have never bought a lottery ticket | Apr 24 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | I'd take it, tell everyone that had hurt me over the years about it | Apr 24 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | and when they tried to come back, tell them to get lost | Apr 24 22:50 |
| satipera | although i picked up a first day ticket and kept it :) | Apr 24 22:51 |
| _goblin | bonjour | Apr 24 22:51 |
| satipera | why i do not know | Apr 24 22:51 |
| satipera | hello goblin | Apr 24 22:51 |
| _goblin | :) | Apr 24 22:51 |
| Omar87 | lol! http://networkedblogs.com/3eadr | Apr 24 22:51 |
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| _goblin | over 300 emails to work through today. | Apr 24 22:51 |
| satipera | a little light reading | Apr 24 22:52 |
| _goblin | yeah..I think today is a record | Apr 24 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | "But please!!! My life's gone to dogshit and my car is being repossessed!" Me: "Well, you only had to put up with me for three years and now I'm a millionaire. Don't you feel stupid? Enjoy your life!" (hang up the phone) | Apr 24 22:52 |
| satipera | lucy must have boosted visitor figures | Apr 24 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | that would be sweet | Apr 24 22:52 |
| satipera | revenge does not work fc | Apr 24 22:53 |
| _goblin | Not according to my stats....Lucy's article was popular but my most reads are going to DEB related articles and distro reviews. | Apr 24 22:53 |
| satipera | it is like eating a meal and feeling hungry | Apr 24 22:53 |
| _goblin | the majority of my mail is asking for more info on Andre, primarily who exactly he is. | Apr 24 22:54 |
| satipera | well that is strength in depth | Apr 24 22:54 |
| _goblin | Lucy and "her" article though is just the tip of the iceberg. I have something much bigger coming. | Apr 24 22:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Security Holes in #Linux http://xkcd.com/424/ | Apr 24 22:55 | |
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| satipera | it would be nice if one of his colleagues had one of those desk name things made with lucy on it | Apr 24 22:55 |
| satipera | goblin, yes i am intrigued | Apr 24 22:56 |
| _goblin | I think we should make Lucy an official term.... | Apr 24 22:56 |
| _goblin | "doing a Lucy" - To change gender and nymshift in order to support your argument | Apr 24 22:56 |
| satipera | for a nym shifter | Apr 24 22:56 |
| _goblin | "Pulling a Lucy" | Apr 24 22:57 |
| satipera | :) | Apr 24 22:57 |
| satipera | so a lucy is a cross nymshifter | Apr 24 22:57 |
| _goblin | yeah.... | Apr 24 22:59 |
| _goblin | maybe Andre is wanting to change Gender and this is his way of introducing us. | Apr 24 22:59 |
| satipera | just leave it as nymshifter it will get more use | Apr 24 22:59 |
| _goblin | nothing wrong with that and I hope he is supported. | Apr 24 22:59 |
| _goblin | satipera: Did you get the "joke" in the picture I had included? | Apr 24 23:00 |
| satipera | sorry? | Apr 24 23:00 |
| satipera | oh | Apr 24 23:00 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/29764046#notice-29842912 "@schestowitz or "sue right" - as in "microsoft will 'sue right' after enough people are using it"" | Apr 24 23:01 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.02 KB | Apr 24 23:01 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: I just caught up with those comments there | Apr 24 23:01 |
| satipera | if you included a photo i missed it and went straight to article | Apr 24 23:01 |
| satipera | looking | Apr 24 23:01 |
| schestowitz | Sorry, I can't comment in your site or any other sites as that would lead people to assuming that forgers of mine are real too | Apr 24 23:01 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: Its no prob..... | Apr 24 23:01 |
| schestowitz | Tuxmachines has registration, so that's where I comments (validated identity) | Apr 24 23:02 |
| schestowitz | satipera: some people change nyms to pull a sockpuppet | Apr 24 23:02 |
| schestowitz | Lobbyists change hats | Apr 24 23:02 |
| schestowitz | Andre just changes sexes | Apr 24 23:02 |
| satipera | yes i see rimmer cross dressing with a a tux puppet | Apr 24 23:02 |
| _goblin | yep | Apr 24 23:02 |
| schestowitz | Heh. Even the name... rimmer | Apr 24 23:03 |
| _goblin | BTW, anyone here going to Bloodstock this year? | Apr 24 23:03 |
| schestowitz | womaniser | Apr 24 23:03 |
| satipera | yes rimmer is a funny name | Apr 24 23:04 |
| _goblin | Arnold Judas Rimmer | Apr 24 23:04 |
| satipera | we used to have an audio shop called "Rutters" :) | Apr 24 23:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/38320-the-main-problem-with-linux-ignorant-users | Apr 24 23:04 |
| satipera | it all started going wrong in series 5 | Apr 24 23:05 |
| _goblin | I think when they started using CGI, it sort of ruined it.....half the charm was that the creatures looked really fake and cheap. | Apr 24 23:05 |
| satipera | and the 3 recently made episodes were poor | Apr 24 23:05 |
| satipera | you know the ones i mean? | Apr 24 23:06 |
| satipera | where they ended up in coronation st | Apr 24 23:06 |
| _goblin | yeah | Apr 24 23:07 |
| _goblin | I wasn't too impressed. | Apr 24 23:08 |
| _goblin | you uk satipera? | Apr 24 23:08 |
| satipera | it was like watching borat uncomfortable | Apr 24 23:08 |
| satipera | yes wiltshire | Apr 24 23:08 |
| _goblin | just watching Steptoe and Son box set | Apr 24 23:08 |
| _goblin | great stuff | Apr 24 23:08 |
| satipera | that is classic | Apr 24 23:08 |
| _goblin | Im bedfordshire | Apr 24 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | _goblin: That's why I'd never play Better Than Life | Apr 24 23:09 |
| satipera | great writers good comic actors | Apr 24 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | I'd have a worse experience than Rimmer :D | Apr 24 23:09 |
| _goblin | Ballmer would turn up? | Apr 24 23:09 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theplainsman.com/view/full_story/7189454/article--Uncle-Roy--Rocks-Gnu-s-Room?instance=home_news_lead_story | Apr 24 23:09 |
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| DaemonFC | "My diseased mind just won't let anything good happen to me!" | Apr 24 23:09 |
| schestowitz | \0/ | Apr 24 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | or something like that :D | Apr 24 23:09 |
| satipera | lol my geography is terrible is that in the midlands | Apr 24 23:09 |
| _goblin | no | Apr 24 23:09 |
| _goblin | SE | Apr 24 23:09 |
| _goblin | 30 miles from London | Apr 24 23:10 |
| _goblin | north | Apr 24 23:10 |
| satipera | ha hanever let me map read | Apr 24 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I was thinking about hypnotherapy | Apr 24 23:10 |
| _goblin | I was considering that to give up smoking | Apr 24 23:10 |
| schestowitz | argh.. | Apr 24 23:10 |
| satipera | fc so you have it over there as well | Apr 24 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | I'd probably play out that scene from Donnie Darko | Apr 24 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | where he's on the therapist's couch | Apr 24 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 24 23:11 |
| satipera | i saw someone have that at a do | Apr 24 23:11 |
| satipera | it only worked for a few days | Apr 24 23:11 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] DW: Still alive. http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/34000.html | Apr 24 23:11 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: reddragdiva | Still alive. .::. Size~: 27.76 KB | Apr 24 23:11 |
| satipera | i have spoken to several people who have been hypnotized, that is a strange phenomenon | Apr 24 23:12 |
| _goblin | yeah... | Apr 24 23:13 |
| _goblin | not sure if its the way | Apr 24 23:13 |
| schestowitz | satipera: cause it's bogus | Apr 24 23:13 |
| schestowitz | In a wau | Apr 24 23:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I had this chat today with a friend whose daughter does a Masters degree in -- wait for it -- homoeopathy. This is mad! | Apr 24 23:13 | |
| schestowitz | And they believe in chiropractors. | Apr 24 23:13 |
| satipera | i have seen it first hand | Apr 24 23:13 |
| schestowitz | satipera: Or exaggerated | Apr 24 23:13 |
| schestowitz | It's like those delirious people who pretend in witchcraft like healing with hands | Apr 24 23:14 |
| schestowitz | Like Palin!!! | Apr 24 23:14 |
| schestowitz | There's this old video of hers... | Apr 24 23:14 |
| satipera | well a couple of the people who were under were not the sort of people to play along with anything | Apr 24 23:14 |
| schestowitz | It's funny when some phonies like that get exposed with a hidden headphone where people give them instructions about the audience | Apr 24 23:15 |
| schestowitz | And they call it psychic or whatever | Apr 24 23:15 |
| schestowitz | People who lose a loved one would believe anything | Apr 24 23:15 |
| satipera | and were really arsey when they were reminded of their behaviour | Apr 24 23:15 |
| schestowitz | That's the least one can do to another for comfoort | Apr 24 23:15 |
| schestowitz | Some take it too far | Apr 24 23:15 |
| schestowitz | And then comes some fraudster pretending to be the bridge to one's lost son/mother | Apr 24 23:15 |
| satipera | psychics yes that is mainly show business | Apr 24 23:16 |
| schestowitz | These scams ought to be stopped really | Apr 24 23:16 |
| schestowitz | satipera: it's entertainment | Apr 24 23:16 |
| schestowitz | But if some people believe cranks like Uri Geller, then it needs to be outlawed, IMHO | Apr 24 23:16 |
| satipera | well, most of the time yes | Apr 24 23:16 |
| satipera | but i do not rule out it all | Apr 24 23:16 |
| schestowitz | If people start believing in magic, that can lead to all sorts of other things | Apr 24 23:16 |
| schestowitz | Like people thinking they'll get virgins by crashing plane | Apr 24 23:16 |
| schestowitz | *planes | Apr 24 23:17 |
| satipera | it could be science we do not understand yet in a minority of cases | Apr 24 23:17 |
| schestowitz | Let me find some vid... | Apr 24 23:17 |
| schestowitz | Here, I found it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idVxRE8uM-A | Apr 24 23:18 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: YouTube- Derren Brown explains to Dawkins why psychic readers are fake (part 1 of 6) .::. Size~: 75.57 KB | Apr 24 23:18 |
| satipera | if gravity is a weak force because most of it is in adjoining multiverses then what else is happening? | Apr 24 23:18 |
| satipera | i agree vast majority are obvious frauds | Apr 24 23:18 |
| satipera | i am open minded about what we call ghosts or spirits etc | Apr 24 23:19 |
| satipera | but it is not a religious thing that is just bollocks | Apr 24 23:20 |
| satipera | sorry if i have offended anyone | Apr 24 23:20 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: http://laptop-computer-planet.com/blog/2010/04/19/meet-the-upcoming-sharp-travelmate-pc-t1-touch-tablet-running-ubuntu-os/ | Apr 24 23:22 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Meet the upcoming Sharp TravelMate PC-T1 touch tablet running Ubuntu OS | Laptop Computer Planet Blog .::. Size~: 36.79 KB | Apr 24 23:22 |
| schestowitz | satipera: we don't have evidence of ghosts or spirits yet | Apr 24 23:22 |
| schestowitz | We don't have means to define them, either | Apr 24 23:22 |
| schestowitz | Ask anyone who is a proponent of the idea | Apr 24 23:23 |
| schestowitz | There's just technobabble | Apr 24 23:23 |
| satipera | agreed, we have no proof | Apr 24 23:23 |
| schestowitz | "positive energies... vibrations.... aura..." | Apr 24 23:23 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, satipera, but then we have something called "Belief". | Apr 24 23:24 |
| satipera | but something really wierd could be happening that is explainable by the laws of physics we do not understand yet | Apr 24 23:24 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft: "active directory... added value... genuine advantage.." | Apr 24 23:24 |
| satipera | I am talking about all that new age stuff | Apr 24 23:24 |
| schestowitz | satipera: we haven't found it yet | Apr 24 23:24 |
| schestowitz | A miracle is when the laws of nature change | Apr 24 23:25 |
| satipera | I do not believe in miracles | Apr 24 23:25 |
| schestowitz | Like gravity halting for a moment or speed of sound varies | Apr 24 23:25 |
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| schestowitz | [In this current atmosphere anyway] | Apr 24 23:25 |
| schestowitz | miracle and faith are similar things | Apr 24 23:25 |
| satipera | for most of our existence we did not know what electricity was | Apr 24 23:26 |
| schestowitz | You can't express them logically | Apr 24 23:26 |
| schestowitz | You also can't draw them | Apr 24 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Faith, afaik, is belief lacking evidence (yet) | Apr 24 23:26 |
| satipera | lightning had all sorts of explanations before we understood it | Apr 24 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Miracle is like a bible term of something | Apr 24 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Like "evil" | Apr 24 23:26 |
| MinceR | evil is a bible term now? | Apr 24 23:27 |
| schestowitz | Miracle if when a sublime entity intervenes or some sublime man does that | Apr 24 23:27 |
| schestowitz | [Not women] | Apr 24 23:27 |
| schestowitz | [not in the bible anyway, unless they are 'witches'] | Apr 24 23:27 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: let's find out | Apr 24 23:27 |
| satipera | I think you misunderstand, i am arguing for science, but we do not understand everything yet | Apr 24 23:27 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evil | Apr 24 23:28 |
| schestowitz | "The modern English word "evil" (Old English yfel) and its cognates such as the German Übel are widely considered to come from a Proto-Germanic reconstructed form *ubilaz, comparable to the Hittite huwapp- ultimately from the Proto-Indo-European form *wap- and suffixed zero-grade form *up-elo-. Other later Germanic forms include Middle English evel, ifel, ufel, Old Frisian evel (adjective and noun), Old Saxon ubil, Old High German ubil, | Apr 24 23:28 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Evil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 98.26 KB | Apr 24 23:28 |
| schestowitz | and Gothic ubils. The root meaning is of obscure origin though shown to be akin to modern English "over" and modern German über (OE ofer) and "up" (OE up, upp) with the basic idea of "transgressing".[2]" | Apr 24 23:28 |
| schestowitz | See caption in image | Apr 24 23:28 |
| schestowitz | "Satan personifies evil in Judeo-Christian doctrines." | Apr 24 23:28 |
| MinceR | read the rest of the article, too | Apr 24 23:29 |
| MinceR | the universe isn't all about judeo-christian bullshit | Apr 24 23:29 |
| satipera | for some reason satan always reminds me of killdozer :) | Apr 24 23:29 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: universe is not about the "pale blue dot" either | Apr 24 23:31 |
| schestowitz | Supernovas are "Evil" :-) | Apr 24 23:31 |
| schestowitz | They pass metal between planets | Apr 24 23:31 |
| satipera | I am anti religion and fairy tale explanations and for science , but again we do not understand eveything, ghosts could be explained by science in the future in an unexpected way | Apr 24 23:31 |
| satipera | it is not beyond belief | Apr 24 23:32 |
| schestowitz | Satan is just like us | Apr 24 23:32 |
| schestowitz | We were created in his own image | Apr 24 23:32 |
| schestowitz | He likes fire, we don't | Apr 24 23:33 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITpDrdtGAmo&feature=related | Apr 24 23:33 |
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| MinceR | we don't like fire? that's new | Apr 24 23:34 |
| MinceR | i distinctly remember eating food yesterday that was prepared with fire | Apr 24 23:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2010/04/20/ubuntu_server_10_04/ | Apr 24 23:34 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Ubuntu Server primed for the bigtime • Channel Register .::. Size~: 26.8 KB | Apr 24 23:34 |
| MinceR | what's more, i also remember drinking a drink that was prepared with fire :> | Apr 24 23:34 |
| satipera | back to moonshine | Apr 24 23:35 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: you're fired | Apr 24 23:35 |
| satipera | strongest stuff i had was in norway | Apr 24 23:35 |
| schestowitz | Cocain? | Apr 24 23:35 |
| schestowitz | Cocaine? | Apr 24 23:35 |
| schestowitz | :-p | Apr 24 23:35 |
| satipera | it is rampant over there as drinks are taxed very highly | Apr 24 23:36 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: you're not my employer :> | Apr 24 23:36 |
| schestowitz | They can set up a brewery at home then | Apr 24 23:36 |
| satipera | no its all illegal | Apr 24 23:37 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I don't play employment games | Apr 24 23:37 |
| MinceR | are you a contractor then? | Apr 24 23:38 |
| schestowitz | No | Apr 24 23:38 |
| schestowitz | But I'll have to get back to feudalism | Apr 24 23:38 |
| schestowitz | Modern wage feudalism :-) | Apr 24 23:39 |
| MinceR | Feudalism in the Modern Wage? | Apr 24 23:39 |
| MinceR | Resistance is Feudal! | Apr 24 23:39 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nlcnet.org/reports?id=0034 | Apr 24 23:39 |
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| schestowitz | It's a great system | Apr 24 23:39 |
| schestowitz | So good for the people "who matter" | Apr 24 23:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Conservapedia-tan. http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Conservapedia#.22Justice.22_at_Conservapedia | Apr 24 23:40 | |
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| schestowitz | "They are happy to make us stuff" -- Westerner | Apr 24 23:40 |
| schestowitz | "We are really doing them a favour, we give them job" --Westerner | Apr 24 23:42 |
| satipera | the dollar had better watch out when china gets a convertible currency | Apr 24 23:42 |
| schestowitz | http://www.storyofstuff.com/ | Apr 24 23:42 |
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| satipera | in about 10 years | Apr 24 23:42 |
| schestowitz | "Some people are born to serve" -slave owners a la 19th century | Apr 24 23:42 |
| schestowitz | "You are just a Linux shill" --Microsoft shill | Apr 24 23:43 |
| cubezzz | I've used both, plus a lot of other OSes | Apr 24 23:43 |
| cubezzz | Linux was the best | Apr 24 23:44 |
| schestowitz | "You are sooo... anti-American" --Nixon?? | Apr 24 23:44 |
| cubezzz | maybe OpenVMS on Itanium is better, never tried it | Apr 24 23:44 |
| schestowitz | "it's all just anti-Semitism" -Isarael | Apr 24 23:44 |
| cubezzz | there are no Linux shills | Apr 24 23:44 |
| cubezzz | no one is paying me to say Linux is good | Apr 24 23:44 |
| schestowitz | "The dollar is the best, God bless" -Texan | Apr 24 23:44 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: yeah, that's the point | Apr 24 23:45 |
| schestowitz | It's funny... "Linux shill" | Apr 24 23:45 |
| schestowitz | http://www.dispatch.co.za/article.aspx?id=396072 | Apr 24 23:46 |
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| MinceR | well, there already are a couple companies that could do so in theory :> | Apr 24 23:46 |
| MinceR | why they would want to is another question | Apr 24 23:46 |
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| cubezzz | I do own RHT stock though | Apr 24 23:51 |
| cubezzz | you never know :) | Apr 24 23:51 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: seen http://www.neoseeker.com/news/13677-sharp-serving-up-ubuntu-based-tablet-the-netwalker-pc-t1/ ? | Apr 24 23:54 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: RHT play with swpats a bit | Apr 24 23:54 |
| schestowitz | I don't trust them 100% | Apr 24 23:54 |
| MinceR | i thought they stopped already | Apr 24 23:54 |
| cubezzz | yeah, the new netwalker, no keyboard | Apr 24 23:55 |
| schestowitz | They are also close to patentaurus, I.B.hell | Apr 24 23:55 |
| cubezzz | a lot of people didn't like the keyboard on the PC-Z1 | Apr 24 23:55 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: they didn't | Apr 24 23:55 |
| schestowitz | They do it quietly | Apr 24 23:55 |
| MinceR | the solution isn't removing the keyboard though | Apr 24 23:55 |
| schestowitz | They put in in IBM's register | Apr 24 23:55 |
| schestowitz | The OINk | Apr 24 23:55 |
| cubezzz | it's silly how you can't do | > < ? easily | Apr 24 23:56 |
| MinceR | afaik OIN isn't IBM's | Apr 24 23:56 |
| schestowitz | It is | Apr 24 23:56 |
| schestowitz | Originalluy | Apr 24 23:56 |
| schestowitz | Jerry Rosenthal | Apr 24 23:56 |
| schestowitz | And mostly IBM patents | Apr 24 23:56 |
| schestowitz | zoobab looked | Apr 24 23:56 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: i like how the nokia n97 does special symbols: the Sym key pops up a table of symbols on the screen where you can select it | Apr 24 23:57 |
| schestowitz | I trust zoobab | Apr 24 23:57 |
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| cubezzz | get a used C series zaurus instead | Apr 24 23:57 |
| schestowitz | terrano-zaurus | Apr 24 23:57 |
| schestowitz | You'd have to dig deep to find one | Apr 24 23:57 |
| schestowitz | Scroll down to Z | Apr 24 23:58 |
| schestowitz | The one above Zune | Apr 24 23:58 |
| schestowitz | I reckon Zaurus could sell better than ZUNE | Apr 24 23:58 |
| schestowitz | http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/ubuntu_discards_system_tray.php | Apr 24 23:58 |
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| schestowitz | Buttons to the left... | Apr 24 23:58 |
| schestowitz | Now this... | Apr 24 23:58 |
| MinceR | this is a lot more idiotic than moving the window buttons to the left | Apr 24 23:59 |
| schestowitz | Remember the Ribbon? | Apr 24 23:59 |
| MinceR | the blog post is full of 'the users do what they want and we just can't have that' | Apr 24 23:59 |
| MinceR | just like crApple GUI "design" | Apr 24 23:59 |
| schestowitz | They gamble too much for little gain.. big risk not worth taking | Apr 24 23:59 |
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