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MinceRthe ribbon was pure idiocyApr 25 00:00
MinceRgetting rid of the menu to make more space for an extremely clumsy toolbarApr 25 00:00
MinceRand of course unusable from the keyboardApr 25 00:00
schestowitzUbuntu users touch the keyboard? /sarcasmApr 25 00:00
cubezzzthe zaurus has pickboard, keyboard, hardwriting and unicodeApr 25 00:00
MinceRschestowitz: they do, but they won't be ubuntu users for long :>Apr 25 00:01
schestowitzI thought Linux virgins just click and drool /sarcasmApr 25 00:01
cubezzzthe problem is when the on screen keyboard is up, it covers half the screenApr 25 00:01
cubezzzUnix virgins :)Apr 25 00:01
cubezzzuse the general termApr 25 00:01
schestowitzMales tooApr 25 00:01
schestowitzWait for some male virgin from ACCESS to claim that virgin means 'female"Apr 25 00:02
schestowitzMaybe some people think that because "virgin" and "vagina" look similar then it's a similar wordApr 25 00:02
MinceRand then the hordes of m$ apologists (like byfield) come and agree vigorouslyApr 25 00:03
schestowitzYou know what they say...Apr 25 00:03
schestowitz"What good for Mono is good for America"Apr 25 00:03
schestowitz*What'sApr 25 00:03
schestowitzhttp://blogs.computerworld.com/15991/ubuntu_would_welcome_adobe_to_linuxApr 25 00:04
TechrightsBotTitle: Ubuntu wants Adobe, even if Apple doesn't - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 66.86 KBApr 25 00:04
schestowitz:-/Apr 25 00:04
schestowitzhttp://www.fsdaily.com/Industry/Adobe_Turns_to_Linux_After_Apple_Snub#commentsApr 25 00:04
TechrightsBotTitle: Adobe Turns to Linux After Apple Snub | fsdaily.com - Free Software News .::. Size~: 31.21 KBApr 25 00:04
schestowitz"I can't find this news particularly useful as Adobe does not have any track record of user freedom. While it may be nice that one proprietary software company (Adobe) leaves the subjugation of another in order (Apple iPlatform) to pursue a popular free software platform (Android), it's highly unlikely that this move will cause users to receive their essential freedoms from Adobe. It's highly likely that Adobe will continue their reign Apr 25 00:04
schestowitzover user freedom upon adapting their software to operate upon Android."Apr 25 00:04
MinceRwait, Captain Dildo is a virgin?Apr 25 00:05
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schestowitzThere is no evidence to the contraryApr 25 00:05
MinceRsweet ironyApr 25 00:06
schestowitzBut it does not imply that's the caseApr 25 00:06
schestowitzBut to be fair, the same can be said about RMS cause he has no childrenApr 25 00:06
schestowitzWhat's most stupid is impregnation for the "I'm not gay" statementApr 25 00:07
schestowitzSome people even get married because of thatApr 25 00:07
MinceR:>Apr 25 00:07
schestowitzSociety can reinforce the notion that "not married" implies homosexualitiesApr 25 00:07
cubezzzyou can get netwalker PC-Z1 shipped for $500Apr 25 00:07
schestowitzOver the years I saw this label glued onto straight scientists who were just dedicated to their 'baby' (a project like GNU or maths)Apr 25 00:08
cubezzzworld's overpopulated Apr 25 00:08
schestowitz"Hey, baby, let's get married to show my parents that I'm indeed straight"Apr 25 00:08
cubezzzit's completely logical not to have childrenApr 25 00:08
schestowitz"Let's make a baby to prove that we're not like Jackson and Presley... pretending to be a couple"Apr 25 00:09
schestowitzYou know, Michael Jackson too was accused of being gayApr 25 00:09
schestowitzEven after he marriedApr 25 00:09
schestowitzThen they had a kidApr 25 00:09
schestowitzAnd they *still* labelled him gay because of his voice and stuffApr 25 00:09
cubezzzit's meaninglessApr 25 00:09
cubezzzidle gossipApr 25 00:10
MinceRhis voice was indeed gay :>Apr 25 00:10
schestowitzHe was too gentle for a reasonApr 25 00:10
schestowitzThey tried to catch him all the time.. paparazzi and stuffApr 25 00:10
schestowitzYou can hear this from his friends and familyApr 25 00:10
schestowitzNaomi Campbell said he was so shocked if she cursedApr 25 00:10
schestowitzCause it would feed the tabloidsApr 25 00:11
neighborleemaybe he was,,,maybe not..frankly I dont care either way.he was a nice man with a solid voice and a hohum family life unfortunatley..who got caught up in the glamour town and it killed himApr 25 00:11
schestowitzOf course... later when she threw bags and phones at her modern-age slaves she made headlinesApr 25 00:11
EruaranI thought the years of allegations that dogged him were just terribleApr 25 00:11
cubezzzJackson had poor people judgement Apr 25 00:11
schestowitzAnother thing I learned about last year was his skin conditionApr 25 00:11
schestowitzAll these years I thought he used creams to do thatApr 25 00:12
cubezzzand too many yes-menApr 25 00:12
EruaranI had someone make false allegations against me once, it lasted a couple of weeks before enough of the truth came outApr 25 00:12
schestowitzAnd AFAIK all the media reinforced this notion of his illness as something self inflictedApr 25 00:12
MinceRi suspect that if a celebrity swears often enough then the tabloids won't care and as such it won't be an issueApr 25 00:12
EruaranYou have no idea how harrowing and upsetting it is when someone makes sexual allegations against youApr 25 00:12
EruaranYou are dragged through the mudApr 25 00:12
schestowitzMinceR: if he's a boxer, than noApr 25 00:12
Eruaraneveryone looks at you like you're sick in the headApr 25 00:12
schestowitzLike HattonApr 25 00:12
EruaranImagine that going on for yearsApr 25 00:13
schestowitzHeh. TysonApr 25 00:13
EruaranIt would be a nightmareApr 25 00:13
EruaranIts no wonder Michael Jackson became a complete recluseApr 25 00:13
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-LuTQ-HQ2oApr 25 00:13
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schestowitzBorderline cannibalism thereApr 25 00:15
schestowitz"I wanna eat your children'Apr 25 00:15
MinceR"i vant to suck your blood"Apr 25 00:16
schestowitzHe had to settle for just Hollyfield's earApr 25 00:16
schestowitzMinceR: that's why ze ladies loved him so muchApr 25 00:17
schestowitzHis tantrums have always reminded me of Ballmer'sApr 25 00:18
schestowitzPicture them on stageApr 25 00:18
schestowitzI'll prepare some links for the site now..Apr 25 00:20
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDr8GN_F0pUApr 25 00:30
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- Apathy Not an option. .::. Size~: 88.08 KBApr 25 00:31
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Ron Paul vs Ben Bernanke http://ur1.ca/wwbpApr 25 00:43
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpUbbrlsKAA&feature=digestApr 25 00:47
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schestowitzFAUX!:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7fZCpHTBhY&feature=digestApr 25 01:03
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MinceRgnApr 25 01:03
_GoblingnApr 25 01:04
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_Goblinwell...what to do....Apr 25 01:05
_Goblinnearly got through my Steptoe and Son DVD set.Apr 25 01:05
cubezzzthats pretty old isn't it?Apr 25 01:06
_Goblinyeah..Apr 25 01:07
_Goblin70'sApr 25 01:07
_Goblingot the DVD set the other dayApr 25 01:07
cubezzzwhy not Harry Worth while you're at it? :)Apr 25 01:10
_GoblinHarry Worth?Apr 25 01:11
cubezzzBritish ComedianApr 25 01:11
cubezzzprobably not very well knownApr 25 01:11
cubezzzprobably no DVD either :)Apr 25 01:12
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBE2J3O8dNA&feature=digestApr 25 01:18
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why people distrust government http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC8kuSKU5UU&feature=digest thanks to @lessigApr 25 01:32
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cubezzzI wonder if anyone fixes cdromsApr 25 01:42
cubezzzI have so many bad onesApr 25 01:42
cubezzzlike 17 years worthApr 25 01:42
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Recording drums for the second Severed Fifth record. #severedfifthApr 25 01:55
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jookiasupApr 25 01:59
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSkebA1-_CQ&feature=digestApr 25 02:01
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- New solar images .::. Size~: 92.38 KBApr 25 02:01
schestowitzHey, jookiaApr 25 02:01
jookiareading techrights.org/boycottnovell.com has made me paranoid about microsoftApr 25 02:01
cubezzzthey aren't good, believe meApr 25 02:05
jookiawhat, the sites or Microsoft?Apr 25 02:06
cubezzzMicrosoftApr 25 02:06
jookiaugh, i dont know. i read conspiracy theories and believe every word, so i'm a gulliable personApr 25 02:07
jookiaimo Microsoft just wants to push the computer industry back with crappy OSes that are insecure and whatnotApr 25 02:08
cubezzzwell they want you to be always dependentApr 25 02:08
cubezzzfor a programmer, there is _no_ reason at all to use windowsApr 25 02:09
cubezzzI realize a lot of people disagree with that, but there it isApr 25 02:09
_Goblinjookia: Its not a conspiracy, Microsoft just wants to make as much money as possible whilst spending as little on actually getting the products working, it wants the monopoly because it has shareholders and if you think about it is acting in the same way as any other company would...I don't think MS cares if the computer industry is held back or not, as long as MS is at the forefront raking in the profit.Apr 25 02:11
jookiai knowApr 25 02:12
cubezzzquite aside from the money issue, windows is simply not the best choiceApr 25 02:12
_Goblinvery trueApr 25 02:12
jookialook, i dont use windows anymoreApr 25 02:12
cubezzzbut there's lots of alternativesApr 25 02:12
jookiai woke up one day and said 'why am i using an OS by people who cant get a ballot screen working correctly'Apr 25 02:12
jookiaso now im on arch linuxApr 25 02:12
_Goblincubezzz: The problem is getting over the apathy barrier of the person who uses it who has no real interest in computing.Apr 25 02:13
cubezzzwell they want their computer working :)Apr 25 02:13
cubezzzso I can coax them a bitApr 25 02:13
_Goblincubezzz: Most Windows non tech folk say "Well its good enough" and put up with the bad times.Apr 25 02:13
jookiaits only complicated in the fact that some people may have to open a terminal and copy/paste some thingsApr 25 02:14
cubezzzit's inelegantApr 25 02:14
jookiathere's a whole business for commercial gnu/linux support right thereApr 25 02:14
_Goblincubezzz: For the the thought of proactively seeking out a new OS is more hassle than simply taking a hosed Windows system to PC World.Apr 25 02:14
_Goblin*for non tech interestedApr 25 02:14
cubezzzmost of the Amiga owners now run Linux Apr 25 02:15
cubezzzas a counter-example :)Apr 25 02:15
_Goblinjookia: and thats part of the barrier....apethyApr 25 02:15
_Goblin*apathyApr 25 02:15
jookiawhat really really pisses me off is OOXMLApr 25 02:15
cubezzzstupid example of a guy who was actually coaxed to Linux:Apr 25 02:15
_Goblincubezzz: maybe because of the ethos being similar....user drivenApr 25 02:15
_Goblincubezzz: although the question is.....where is the Linux demo scene?Apr 25 02:16
cubezzzthis course he was taking, he was forced to use Microsoft Word 97Apr 25 02:16
cubezzz_no_ other version would suffice :)Apr 25 02:16
cubezzzxscreensaver is the demo sceneApr 25 02:16
cubezzzhes paying for the course rememberApr 25 02:17
cubezzzit was so stupidApr 25 02:17
jookiasteams coming to gnu/linuxApr 25 02:17
_Goblincubezzz: oh dear....Apr 25 02:17
jookiaso that may do somethingApr 25 02:17
_Goblincubezzz: I don't see much of the demoscene there.....not in the way the AmigaApr 25 02:18
cubezzzyeah there really isn't oneApr 25 02:18
_GoblinRed Sector develop on 360 :*Apr 25 02:18
cubezzzthe situation is a lot different thoughApr 25 02:18
cubezzzLinux has a lot of abstraction layersApr 25 02:18
jookiaabstraction layers are goodApr 25 02:19
cubezzzon AMiga you had full hardware documentationApr 25 02:19
cubezzzyou don't have that nowApr 25 02:19
_Goblinish....Apr 25 02:19
_Goblinremember the paralax scroll myth>Apr 25 02:19
cubezzznow we have crazy guys doing reverse engineering :)Apr 25 02:19
jookiai feel like a total douchebag because my hardware barely runs windows 7Apr 25 02:20
_Goblinaccording to hardware tech you couldn't achieve a 7 level paralax...Apr 25 02:20
jookiai have a goddamn 4gb ram, an i7 and ati radeon hd 4890, but windows 7 still is slowApr 25 02:20
jookiai just dont get itApr 25 02:20
cubezzzjookia, hahahaApr 25 02:20
cubezzzask me what I'm runningApr 25 02:20
jookiawhatre you runningApr 25 02:20
_Goblinwhat are you runningApr 25 02:20
cubezzzdual p3 550 with 384 megs of ram :)Apr 25 02:20
jookiawhat OSApr 25 02:21
cubezzzmy motherboard is like 12 years old :)Apr 25 02:21
cubezzzfc1Apr 25 02:21
jookiafcl=?Apr 25 02:21
cubezzzfc1, fedora core 1Apr 25 02:22
jookiaisnt that kinda out of dateApr 25 02:22
cubezzzI update it myselfApr 25 02:22
jookiacan you watch HD youtube videosApr 25 02:22
cubezzzprobably notApr 25 02:23
cubezzzI could probably do that on my TV thoughApr 25 02:24
cubezzzI run 2.4 quite a bit actuallyApr 25 02:24
cubezzzAmiga 500 came with 512 _meg_ memory Apr 25 02:25
jookiayou knowApr 25 02:26
cubezzzand now a computer with more than 1,000 times the ram is slow? that's funnyApr 25 02:26
jookiasometimes i feel like my computer is overkill for what i doApr 25 02:26
cubezzzI wouldn't touch windows 7Apr 25 02:26
_Goblingn all...Apr 25 02:27
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cubezzzniteApr 25 02:27
jookiamy entire / is 6.1GB, including all my C++ tools, firefox, youtube, whatnot versus a base 16GB windows 7 install that does nothingApr 25 02:27
cubezzzI thought XP was bloated :)Apr 25 02:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right, Im done, time for bed.Apr 25 02:27
cubezzzit just gets more and more bloated with each iterationApr 25 02:28
jookiaas a programmer, i just dont get how its possible to bloat something that muchApr 25 02:28
cubezzzI'm told win2k source was a real messApr 25 02:28
jookiawin* any source is a messApr 25 02:28
cubezzzprobablyApr 25 02:29
cubezzzrecently I fixed an old 486, going to put DSL on itApr 25 02:29
schestowitzHilarious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlfMsZwr8rc&feature=relatedApr 25 02:29
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schestowitz[02:11] <_Goblin> jookia: Its not a conspiracy, Microsoft just ...Apr 25 02:29
schestowitzWaitApr 25 02:29
schestowitzA conspiracy does not imply falsenessApr 25 02:29
cubezzzcomputers used to be more fun jookiaApr 25 02:30
schestowitzLike conspiring with hardware makers to sell new chipsApr 25 02:30
jookiagnu/linux is fun thoughApr 25 02:30
jookiai can do anything with itApr 25 02:30
cubezzzsureApr 25 02:30
jookiaits mah own empireeeApr 25 02:30
schestowitzOr like Microsoft got caught conspiring to sell "junk PC" with Intel when Vista was releasedApr 25 02:30
schestowitzThe court showed itApr 25 02:30
cubezzzmodern Linux is bloated though, not as bad as windows, but still bloatedApr 25 02:30
cubezzzX isn't exactly the most compact thing in the worldApr 25 02:31
schestowitzx,org?Apr 25 02:31
cubezzzwell, the X Window SystemApr 25 02:32
jookiasometimes i just laugh at my imaginary windows source thinking whats in itApr 25 02:32
cubezzzI'd like to see an Alto emulator Apr 25 02:33
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cubezzzjust to see how different it is from current systemsApr 25 02:33
schestowitzGood enough to power phonesApr 25 02:33
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schestowitzMaybe they used a stripped down versionApr 25 02:33
schestowitzThey don't need all the features from x, like many tty'sApr 25 02:34
cubezzzi'm sure there's X-lite somewhereApr 25 02:34
schestowitzNokia's Maemo uses multiple desktops in the n900, imagine them also having virtual terminals in theirsApr 25 02:34
cubezzzthe Amiga guys still like AmigaDOS over Linux on older AmigasApr 25 02:35
cubezzzI have really old BSD, maybe I'll try that on the 486 :)Apr 25 02:35
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cubezzzhttp://toastytech.com/guis/alto.htmlApr 25 02:39
TechrightsBotTitle: The Xerox Alto .::. Size~: 8.33 KBApr 25 02:39
cubezzzwhat Jobs saw when he visited Parc:Apr 25 02:41
cubezzzhttp://toastytech.com/guis/altost2.jpgApr 25 02:41
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jookiabackApr 25 02:42
jookiatbh i think Apple is less evil than MicrosoftApr 25 02:42
cubezzz"old" linux desktop:Apr 25 02:43
cubezzzhttp://toastytech.com/guis/mkdedefaultdesk.pngApr 25 02:43
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jookiahaha i actually remember thatApr 25 02:43
jookiawhen did gnu/linux get style anway?Apr 25 02:44
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRc4LkBRjIc&NR=1Apr 25 02:44
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- "Psychic" gets busted! .::. Size~: 85.88 KBApr 25 02:45
cubezzzstyle?Apr 25 02:45
jookiawell, better looking graphicsApr 25 02:45
jookiacompare GTK1 to GTK2 and you'll see what  i meanApr 25 02:46
schestowitzMontel brings fraudsters to his show to cause agony to people's whose family died: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMqUWzGNwm4&feature=relatedApr 25 02:48
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- Psychic busted pt.2 .::. Size~: 84.27 KBApr 25 02:48
schestowitzAlmost as bad as OprahApr 25 02:48
cubezzzthis is my current desktop:Apr 25 02:50
cubezzzhttp://maxhost.org/other/desktop-apr-2010.jpgApr 25 02:50
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jookianiceApr 25 02:50
cubezzzstill fc1 though :)Apr 25 02:51
cubezzzmodified of courseApr 25 02:51
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jookiahow modifiedApr 25 02:56
cubezzzwell it's got newer KDEApr 25 02:57
cubezzzplus I changed a lot of command line stuffApr 25 02:57
jookiai like GNOMEApr 25 02:59
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jookiasup ThraeApr 25 03:02
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cubezzzgnome is fine, but I like older KDE the bestApr 25 03:06
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jookiawhy exactlyApr 25 03:07
cubezzzfaster :)Apr 25 03:09
cubezzzand I like klipperApr 25 03:09
jookiaklipper?Apr 25 03:10
cubezzzthe KDE cut and paste utilityApr 25 03:10
cubezzzit's KDE 3.4.2 btwApr 25 03:10
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jookiagtgApr 25 03:14
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] What Did The Three Amigos Tender To The Canadian Copyright Consultation? http://bit.ly/aVqo2RApr 25 03:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] " و إذا قرأت القرآن جعلنا ؚينك و ؚين الذين لا ي؀منون ؚالآخرة حجاؚا مستورا" #Quran #Mohammed(PBUH) #Muslim (45/سورة الإسراء)Apr 25 03:48
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] I know you actually like ms garbage. You sound like a sheep shouting "Hey guys! I actually like alfalfa!!" > U're a ms sheep! DUH!! @mishabApr 25 03:53
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@avivao Goldman Sachs: Just-released emails prove "crash to cash" tactics: #p2 http://ow.ly/1CHAI #shockdoctrine /login req?! cc @wikileaksApr 25 04:15
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] '#WellPoint, largest #health insurance co in US, routinely drops female policyholders..diagnosed w/breast cancer' http://bit.ly/9dkNEC #hcrApr 25 04:45
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @rayvelline Carcinogens Found in #KFC’s New Grilled Chicken http://bit.ly/c8NUf2 #phip #hca #food #healthApr 25 04:51
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@ NOtoGMOs LOL @ishtarmuz GMO seed saving // not so fast: terminator genes. #monsanto & #gmo cronies may have destroyed human agricultureApr 25 05:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@ NOtoGMOs LOL @ishtarmuz http://www.ethicalinvesting.com/monsanto/terminator.shtml #monsanto #crime #food #BillGates cc @schestowitzApr 25 05:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@NOtoGMOs LOL @ishtarmuz GMO seed saving // not so fast: terminator genes. #monsanto & #gmo cronies may have destroyed human agricultureApr 25 05:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@NOtoGMOs LOL @ishtarmuz http://www.ethicalinvesting.com/monsanto/terminator.shtml #monsanto #crime #food #BillGates cc @schestowitzApr 25 05:12
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse140/@openuniverse140] listeners should really think about boycotting npr for always taking money from monsanto. trying to ban "gmo-free" labels?!Apr 25 05:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@molls There are people here who just had a baby. Oh my God. I'm going to die alone. // not really. 6 or 7 billion will be around to watchApr 25 05:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @pareidoliac Goldman 'bet against securities it sold to clients' http://bit.ly/dAKARWApr 25 06:06
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Live@edu, an educational service? Or a digitized lottery ticket system?: http://url4.eu/2vSN5Apr 25 06:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Free Software is not about deception, Free Software is about caring for others: http://url4.eu/2vSN6Apr 25 06:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] The anatomy of a Microsoft Most Valuable [Hypocrite]: http://url4.eu/2vSN7Apr 25 06:43
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cubezzzgot no -5V yet computer is working, hmmmApr 25 06:58
cubezzzweird, I guess newer atx PSApr 25 06:59
cubezzzdon't have -5VApr 25 06:59
cubezzzummm, I think ISA cards need thatApr 25 07:10
cubezzzbummerApr 25 07:10
cubezzzthis is ATX 2.3 specApr 25 07:22
DaemonFCkill myself is the only productive thing left to do at this pointApr 25 07:24
DaemonFCdamn it all to hell :PApr 25 07:25
cubezzzhmmm?Apr 25 07:25
DaemonFCI don't know, I was feeling OK-ish up until yesterday, despite all the stuff going wrongApr 25 07:26
DaemonFCthen my ex shows up and it's like everything all happened yesterdayApr 25 07:26
DaemonFCI guess it's like 100,000 pounds of shit was about to fall on me and the last thread in the rope got cut when I opened my front doorApr 25 07:27
cubezzzummmApr 25 07:34
Diablo-D3you have no 5v at all?Apr 25 07:35
cubezzzno -5VApr 25 07:35
Diablo-D3and btw, old PCI cards need 5vApr 25 07:35
cubezzzthey dropped itApr 25 07:35
cubezzzhrmmmApr 25 07:35
Diablo-D3but they're physically locked out so you cant plug them in anymoreApr 25 07:35
cubezzzI think -5V is for ISA cardsApr 25 07:35
cubezzzI still have +5VApr 25 07:35
cubezzzI got PCI ethernet cardApr 25 07:36
cubezzzwhat else ...Apr 25 07:36
cubezzzUSB 2.0 cardApr 25 07:36
cubezzzthat's PCIApr 25 07:36
cubezzzand AGP cardApr 25 07:37
cubezzzeverything in the box is workingApr 25 07:37
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cubezzzI think -5V is optional in the newer ATX specApr 25 07:37
cubezzzjust realized that I was getting an ALARM from sensorsApr 25 07:38
cubezzzall my older ATX PS's had -5VApr 25 07:39
cubezzzbut, it's still good to upgrade your PSApr 25 07:39
cubezzzthey are more efficient Apr 25 07:40
Diablo-D3hehApr 25 07:40
*Diablo-D3 's psu is so efficient, antec made up the 80 Plus bullshitApr 25 07:41
Diablo-D3future editions of my psu had the 80 Plus sticker slapped to the side with no modifications to itApr 25 07:42
cubezzznow I have the PCI-e 6pin connectorApr 25 07:43
cubezzzcan't use it though :)Apr 25 07:43
cubezzzI assume that's for power hungry video cardsApr 25 07:44
cubezzzand what is -12V used for I wonderApr 25 07:44
cubezzzmotherboard stuff I guessApr 25 07:46
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cubezzzI have PCI 2.1 moboApr 25 07:57
cubezzzPCI 2.3 disallows 5V PCI cardsApr 25 07:58
Diablo-D3cubezzz: noApr 25 07:59
Diablo-D32.3 requires it to be not implementedApr 25 07:59
Diablo-D3its been an option for quite awhileApr 25 07:59
Diablo-D3one that most manufs didnt allowApr 25 07:59
cubezzzah I seeApr 25 07:59
Diablo-D3they havent made 5v pci cards for eonsApr 25 08:00
cubezzz"Standby current must be 750mA or higher (SB5V = 0.75A)"Apr 25 08:01
Diablo-D33.3 has been a requirement for over a decadeApr 25 08:02
Diablo-D3and any pci card thats either >33mhz or 64bit is required to be 3.3Apr 25 08:03
cubezzz"but at 33 MHz both 5 volt and 3.3 volt signal voltages are still allowed."Apr 25 08:03
cubezzz"PCI 3.0 is the final official standard of the bus, completely removing 5-volt capability."Apr 25 08:04
Diablo-D3thats wrongApr 25 08:04
Diablo-D32.3 removed itApr 25 08:05
cubezzzmy sound card could be 5 volt for all I knowApr 25 08:06
cubezzzprobably not Apr 25 08:06
Diablo-D3probably notApr 25 08:07
Diablo-D3look at the keying on itApr 25 08:07
cubezzzsome cards are universalApr 25 08:11
cubezzzthis looks like a 5V PCI card actuallyApr 25 08:12
Diablo-D3a lot of cards arent universalApr 25 08:13
cubezzzhere is a picture:Apr 25 08:13
cubezzzhttp://www.yjfy.com/images/oldhard/sound/es1371.jpgApr 25 08:13
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Diablo-D3they just have a 5v keying so they fit into mobosApr 25 08:13
Diablo-D3if its a es1371 card, I bet its 3.3vApr 25 08:13
Diablo-D3huhApr 25 08:15
Diablo-D3yours is actually 5vApr 25 08:15
Diablo-D3wtfApr 25 08:15
cubezzzhehApr 25 08:15
Diablo-D3toss itApr 25 08:15
Diablo-D3its old horrid shitApr 25 08:15
cubezzzit still worksApr 25 08:15
cubezzzone day I'll go to the store and nothing will work in my old computer :)Apr 25 08:16
Diablo-D3yes but it sounds like fucking shitApr 25 08:16
cubezzzwhat would you recommend?Apr 25 08:17
Diablo-D3an audiotrak prodigy hd2 Apr 25 08:18
Diablo-D3http://floridamusicco.com/proddetail~prod~prodigy_hd2.htmApr 25 08:19
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cubezzzat least I know my motherboard supports 5V PCI cardsApr 25 08:19
Diablo-D3or if you need 7.1, http://floridamusicco.com/proddetail~prod~prodigy%5F71%5Fhifi.htmApr 25 08:19
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Diablo-D3they work under linux greatApr 25 08:19
cubezzzthat's good to knowApr 25 08:19
Diablo-D3audiotrak == ESI's consumer brandApr 25 08:20
Diablo-D3they use envy24s and high quality dacsApr 25 08:20
Diablo-D3theres basically 6 cards that you can honestly say sound goodApr 25 08:21
cubezzzoptical S/PDIF digital output, fancyApr 25 08:21
Diablo-D3all of them use envy24s Apr 25 08:21
Diablo-D3three of them are made by ESI, three of them are made by m-audioApr 25 08:21
Diablo-D3and one of them is no longer in productionApr 25 08:21
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Diablo-D3they all score identically on audio quality testsApr 25 08:23
Diablo-D3the only difference is the features you pay forApr 25 08:23
Diablo-D3esi's juli@, the most expensive of them, is $500Apr 25 08:24
Diablo-D3the audiotrak hd2 is the cheapest, but stereo onlyApr 25 08:24
cubezzzI don't think of 5V PCI cards as old, but everything is relativeApr 25 08:24
cubezzzold is > 20 years Apr 25 08:24
cubezzzbut I guess this mobo is getting kinda oldApr 25 08:26
cubezzzI remember everyone used to rave on about Ultrasound cardsApr 25 08:30
cubezzzwell, going to figure out what -12V is for...Apr 25 08:33
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cubezzz"-12V is required by the serial port, and by some video and some sound cards. A lot of people say it's not necessary, but really that's just a cop out."Apr 25 08:37
cubezzzhere's the sensor readout from my mobo:Apr 25 08:38
cubezzzhttp://maxhost.org/cgi-bin/sensors.cgiApr 25 08:38
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cubezzzas you can see the PS can't do -5V Apr 25 08:38
Diablo-D3[03:15:55] <cubezzz> I remember everyone used to rave on about Ultrasound cardsApr 25 08:45
Diablo-D3what was a very long time agoApr 25 08:45
Diablo-D3and yes, they were very niceApr 25 08:45
cubezzzGravis :)Apr 25 08:52
cubezzzprobably out of business nowApr 25 08:52
cubezzznot as compatible with SB cards as I recallApr 25 08:54
cubezzzanother example of "good enough" cards winning over superior cardsApr 25 08:55
schestowitzDamn. I've just written that I again wrote a comment and forgot to submit it at the endApr 25 08:56
Diablo-D3they were compatible, cubezzz Apr 25 08:56
Diablo-D3they emulated a sbpro interface for the very few cards that couldnt do gravis ultrasoundApr 25 08:56
Diablo-D3and yes, they're long since out of businessApr 25 08:56
cubezzzwell, I don't think the emulation was 100%Apr 25 08:58
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GigantiCowhey wheres my favorite troll goblin?Apr 25 08:59
Diablo-D3busy saving the world from microsoft shillsApr 25 08:59
cubezzz;-)Apr 25 08:59
GigantiCowhows that going for him?Apr 25 09:00
GigantiCow# looks aroundApr 25 09:00
GigantiCowoh, still gigantic MS shareApr 25 09:00
GigantiCowneeds to up his gameApr 25 09:00
DaemonFCI told a police officer today that the cops in this town would be doing good to catch a coldApr 25 09:03
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] "Life is not the amount of breaths you take, it's the moments that take your breath away" -Hitch movie #quoteApr 25 09:03
DaemonFCI can't remember how poorly he explained their "inability" to track a person who blocked their caller IDApr 25 09:03
DaemonFCbut it was hysterical Apr 25 09:03
DaemonFChe told my neighbor they couldn'tApr 25 09:04
GigantiCowyou go daemon. stick it to the man ... esp. when the man is respecting privacy legislation that hes sworn to upholdApr 25 09:04
DaemonFCI told him that if the guy she was complaining about was a drug dealer suspect or a terrorist, they could have his name, number, and address in about 3 secondsApr 25 09:04
DaemonFCso why can't they pull that shit up when people are getting obscene phone calls? :PApr 25 09:05
cubezzzthey can tap phonesApr 25 09:06
cubezzzat least the federal police canApr 25 09:06
DaemonFCthe local ones do it all the timeApr 25 09:06
DaemonFCwell, in bigger cities than this anywayApr 25 09:07
DaemonFCthe police here think that pulling over a few speeders makes them criminology expertsApr 25 09:07
DaemonFCor they act like it anywayApr 25 09:07
DaemonFCthe police seem to only make things stick to people who won't shut up and build the state's case against themApr 25 09:08
DaemonFCactually, I think a lot of police work is contingent on the stupidity of the suspect during the processApr 25 09:09
DaemonFCwaiving their rights, knowingly or notApr 25 09:09
DaemonFCbeing careless and opening up loopholes for the policeApr 25 09:09
DaemonFCthat sort of thingApr 25 09:09
GigantiCowyour generalisations make me proud daemonApr 25 09:11
DaemonFCso they get a warrantApr 25 09:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Not finding #cocoa easy to get into. Sigh. #osx #apple #cs5Apr 25 09:11
DaemonFCthose are frivolous and freely handed out complicitly by the courts anywayApr 25 09:11
GigantiCowtell us how crime solving works. you have such extensive experience there, i am sureApr 25 09:12
DaemonFCfrivolous warrant, turning friends on suspect, depending on suspect to be ignorant and uneducated because most areApr 25 09:12
DaemonFCprestoApr 25 09:12
DaemonFCthose end up in prison with the book thrown at themApr 25 09:13
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cubezzzwhat a nice fellow :)Apr 25 09:16
schestowitzWho's he?Apr 25 09:26
schestowitzSeems to know _goblinApr 25 09:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Story of Success Moving People to Desktop #GNU #Linux ; Linux Consulting http://ur1.ca/wycn http://ur1.ca/wycoApr 25 09:27
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satiperaFC I was interviewed by two plain clothes police many years ago in relation to a very serious crime (innocent I am quite law abiding) and I assure you it is a lot worse than anyone can realise from watching it on the tellyApr 25 09:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Over a Thousand Participants in Event Covering #GNU #Linux and Free Software http://www.frontline.in/stories/20100507270909400.htmApr 25 09:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux #Kernel Space File Systems in Review - New Features http://ur1.ca/wyelApr 25 09:36
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Minitube Brings YouTube to #GNU #Linux Desktops, Without Flash http://ur1.ca/wyfe http://ur1.ca/wyffApr 25 09:38
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Crap. #InterfaceBuilder is just buggy. :( #osxApr 25 09:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Wine Improves to Point of Enabling Migration to #GNU #Linux With Windows Applications Remaining http://ur1.ca/wyftApr 25 09:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Evidence of Valve/Steam Games for #GNU #Linux Added http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODE3NAApr 25 09:51
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satiperagoblin do you know anyone called giganticow?Apr 25 09:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 2 New Reviews of #PCLinuxOS 2010 http://ur1.ca/wyic http://ur1.ca/wyidApr 25 09:54
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mandriva Targets Education With #GNU #Linux Desktops http://optolog.com/3640.htmlApr 25 09:55
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_Goblinsatipera: not to my knowledgeApr 25 09:56
satiperahe seems to know youApr 25 09:56
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_Goblinsatipera: how?Apr 25 09:56
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satiperasee above irc if you have itApr 25 09:57
_Goblinsatipera: I dont atm, what did he say?Apr 25 09:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fedora Prepares for Elections, Insight Into Fedora 13 Features http://ur1.ca/wyjb http://ur1.ca/wyjcApr 25 09:58
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satiperagoblin , he said  hey wheres my favorite troll goblin?Apr 25 09:58
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_Goblinlogging IP.Apr 25 09:59
_Goblinah....Apr 25 09:59
_Goblinlet me confirmApr 25 09:59
_Goblinlins**Apr 25 10:00
_Goblinthats another to add to the PG blocklist.Apr 25 10:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Debian #GNU #Linux Squashes Bug Very Quickly http://pogson.6k.ca/2010/04/24/debian-squeeze-bug-count/Apr 25 10:00
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satiperamystery solvedApr 25 10:01
_Goblinsatipera: did he say anything else?Apr 25 10:01
_Goblinsatipera: when was he about? Last night?Apr 25 10:01
satiperaonly recently leftApr 25 10:01
_Goblinah....Apr 25 10:01
_Goblinhe's still on freenode.Apr 25 10:02
_Goblinno channel thoughApr 25 10:02
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_Goblinthats me btwApr 25 10:02
_Goblinjust up to no good....Apr 25 10:02
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satiperahe was not really offensive just a little rudeApr 25 10:03
_Goblindamn...he's goneApr 25 10:03
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Dell Has More #Linux Devices Coming http://ur1.ca/wyng http://ur1.ca/wynh http://ur1.ca/wyni http://ur1.ca/wynjApr 25 10:22
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux #Tablets Coming from ASUS, Kakai, and Velocity Micro http://ur1.ca/wynp http://ur1.ca/wynr http://ur1.ca/wynsApr 25 10:23
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MinceRhttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/04/acta-is-here.arsApr 25 10:24
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Increasingly Seen as Force to be Reckoned With http://ur1.ca/wyo9Apr 25 10:25
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MinceRj0Apr 25 10:28
_Goblinj0?Apr 25 10:28
MinceRj0!Apr 25 10:29
_Goblinyoure not turning "l33t" on us are you? ;)Apr 25 10:29
MinceRno, not _turning_ 1337Apr 25 10:30
MinceR:>Apr 25 10:30
_GoblinI love watching those l33t channels on IRC....they encode a DVD to xvid and think they are FairlightApr 25 10:31
_Goblinand if they manage to throw it up to a tracker....well they've really made it.Apr 25 10:31
_Goblinthe .nfo's are fun to read tooApr 25 10:32
_Goblinits a little like the looser who discovers the tkinter binding and thinks they are a nix hacker because they can make a requester box....Apr 25 10:33
MinceR:>Apr 25 10:33
_Goblinhow things have changed from the days of the a500 and not for the better.Apr 25 10:34
_Goblintalking of bindings, still trying to get decent performance out of pyOpengl.....Apr 25 10:34
_Goblinflogging a dead horse there I think.Apr 25 10:34
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Eruarananyone home?Apr 25 10:35
_GoblinHi!Apr 25 10:35
_Goblinme and Mincer at the momentApr 25 10:35
_Goblinsorry, Mincer and IApr 25 10:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Might Enter Databases One Day http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2010/04/23/redhat-nosql/Apr 25 10:36
TechrightsBotTitle: tecosystems » VMwares Database Play: Will Red Hat Follow? .::. Size~: 47.43 KBApr 25 10:36
Eruaranhi guysApr 25 10:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Review of Oracle's #OpenSolaris 2009.06 http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2010/04/22/opensolaris-2009-06/ #solarisApr 25 10:38
MinceRhayApr 25 10:38
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Tarver should be the first to go from NXT, followed by Young. #wwe #nxtApr 25 10:39
EruaranI'm uploading some more logo ideasApr 25 10:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeBSD and #PCBSD in the News http://ur1.ca/wyqj http://ur1.ca/wyqk http://ur1.ca/wyql http://ur1.ca/wyqmApr 25 10:40
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Eruaranhttp://picasaweb.google.com/farrance.jeremy/Techrights#5464004023321237618Apr 25 10:41
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla #Firefox Gets #Ogg Improvements for Mobile, Other Goodies http://ur1.ca/wyqu http://ur1.ca/wyqv http://ur1.ca/wyqwApr 25 10:42
TechrightsBotTitle: High performance Theora codec for Firefox on OMAP3 previewed - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 34.16 KBApr 25 10:42
TechrightsBotTitle: A look at the future of Firefox - Online Best Latest A look at the future of Firefox Price Reviews | Features in India .::. Size~: 104.38 KBApr 25 10:42
TechrightsBotTitle: 10 MORE outstanding Firefox extensions | 10 Things | TechRepublic.com .::. Size~: 59.3 KBApr 25 10:42
EruaranI liked this idea of puzzle pieces but I think it ended up being too hard to read: http://picasaweb.google.com/farrance.jeremy/Techrights#5464004027680313346Apr 25 10:42
TechrightsBotTitle: Picasa Web Albums - farrance.jeremy - Techrights .::. Size~: 58.92 KBApr 25 10:43
EruaranThere are always more simple things to fall back on: http://picasaweb.google.com/farrance.jeremy/Techrights#5464004029069438930Apr 25 10:44
TechrightsBotTitle: Picasa Web Albums - farrance.jeremy - Techrights .::. Size~: 58.92 KBApr 25 10:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU Learns Reasons for Participating in GNU Projects http://ur1.ca/wyrd http://ur1.ca/wyreApr 25 10:44
TechrightsBotTitle: [Phoronix] Reasons Why You Don't Contribute To Open-Source Software .::. Size~: 17.25 KBApr 25 10:44
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Governments in Europe Gravitate Towards #FreeSoftware http://ur1.ca/wyry http://ur1.ca/wyrz http://ur1.ca/wys0 http://ur1.ca/wys1Apr 25 10:46
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TechrightsBotTitle: Cenatic: 'Using open source is key for e-government' &mdash;  .::. Size~: 29.72 KBApr 25 10:47
TechrightsBotTitle: Final version of Procurement and Open Source Software Guideline published  &mdash;  .::. Size~: 28.31 KBApr 25 10:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] You remember easier days in the past and you long for their re... More for Aquarius http://twittascope.com/?sign=11Apr 25 10:47
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EruaranFeel free to browse the Techrights logos on my web album and leave commentsApr 25 10:51
EruaranI need feedbackApr 25 10:51
_Goblinwhats the link?Apr 25 10:53
Eruaranhttp://picasaweb.google.com/farrance.jeremy/Techrights#5454278655964964178Apr 25 10:56
TechrightsBotTitle: Picasa Web Albums - farrance.jeremy - Techrights .::. Size~: 58.92 KBApr 25 10:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Govt tapped fones of political leaders' http://bit.ly/cR6jwb thr is absence of law governing the tapping of telefones: cong #privacy #indiaApr 25 10:56
TechrightsBotTitle: 'Govt tapped phones of Pawar, 3 other leaders' - Politics - Political News - ibnlive  .::. Size~: 55.5 KBApr 25 10:56
EruaranThere's currently 19 ideas... just bashing stuff about... use the arrow buttons to look at different onesApr 25 10:56
EruaranI kind of like #9 and #12Apr 25 10:57
MinceRi like the columnsApr 25 10:57
MinceRjust needs some text :>Apr 25 10:57
MinceR(though i'm not sure how it would blend into the current design)Apr 25 10:58
EruaranyesApr 25 10:58
Eruaranre-design the web page ;)Apr 25 10:58
MinceRit might be a good ideaApr 25 10:59
_GoblinNumber 16 is my favoriteApr 25 11:00
Eruaranthats a new oneApr 25 11:01
EruaranI have a thing for 12 thoughApr 25 11:01
Eruaran16's colours would suit the current site design betterApr 25 11:02
Eruaranbut 12 is bold :)Apr 25 11:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Examples of How #OpenStreetMap Makes the World a Better Plane http://ur1.ca/wyu3 http://ur1.ca/wyu4Apr 25 11:02
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why #FreeSoftware is Becoming "Required Label" and Flash Should be Made Free/Libre http://ur1.ca/wyuc http://ur1.ca/wyudApr 25 11:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @rahulsundaram You can't expect #Fedora to hold back development and integration of Xorg releases on the basis of proprietary driversApr 25 11:04
TechrightsBotTitle: ZDNet Asia: Open Source is no longer sexy « The-Source.com .::. Size~: 29.49 KBApr 25 11:04
MinceRhm, maybe a "modern" font (like Neuropol) would go well with the columnsApr 25 11:04
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Eruaranyeah Apr 25 11:05
EruaranYou could spend days just choosing a fontApr 25 11:05
MinceR:)Apr 25 11:05
EruaranHalf the time if I see a font I like I then wander away from the style thinking... "0h that font might look good with this..." and hours later... I'm back where I startedApr 25 11:08
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schestowitzhttp://280.status.net/notice/56507 "@schestowitz this stuff is so superficial. it glorifies the appearance and image of things over the substance of things. sure, image matters to a movement, but it matters a lot more to open source than it does to free software- because dammit if substance doesn't matter, too"Apr 25 11:34
TechrightsBotTitle: حالة menn (openuniverse)  ÙÙŠ يوم Sunday, 25-Apr-10 10:06:21 UTC - 280 .::. Size~: 7.52 KBApr 25 11:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @floschie: For a better world without democracy - save the web! ♻ @greve: Nice: http://www.cleanternet.org/Apr 25 11:38
TechrightsBotTitle: Cleanternet.org | campaign for a cleaner and safer Internet .::. Size~: 5.14 KBApr 25 11:38
schestowitzDoes Microsoft have $80 billion in DEBT? http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-debt-of-adobe-microsoft-ibm-hp-cisco-oracle-2010-4Apr 25 11:39
TechrightsBotTitle: CHART OF THE DAY: Tech Companies (But Not Google Or Apple) Take On More Debt .::. Size~: 121.36 KBApr 25 11:39
schestowitzWOw, I love this chartApr 25 11:39
Eruaranbah picasa web albums wont let me upload gimp imagesApr 25 11:41
MinceRpicasa sucksApr 25 11:41
MinceRi remember back when HTML by itself was sufficient to create web albumsApr 25 11:41
MinceRi don't think it has ceased to be sufficient to do soApr 25 11:42
Eruaranyeah I just happen to be using it cause it was already thereApr 25 11:43
Eruaranit was convenient...Apr 25 11:43
Eruaranschestowitz: 16-19 are new 20-21 are just examples of putting a couple of my favorites over a nice backdropApr 25 11:51
Eruaranhttp://picasaweb.google.com/farrance.jeremy/Techrights#5464021202221083266Apr 25 11:51
TechrightsBotTitle: Picasa Web Albums - farrance.jeremy - Techrights .::. Size~: 62.37 KBApr 25 11:51
schestowitzEruaran: I put them in techrightsApr 25 11:58
schestowitzAll 4 of themApr 25 11:58
schestowitzSee commentsApr 25 11:59
EruaranokApr 25 11:59
EruaranI like the idea of the last thing I uploadedApr 25 12:03
Eruaranexample2Apr 25 12:03
Eruaransimple nice photo background with bold foreground textApr 25 12:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Hmm, getting close to thinking I should delete my facebook profile #fbApr 25 12:04
EruaranI hate facebookApr 25 12:05
_Goblinnever use it.Apr 25 12:06
_GoblinI think my sister has an account....Apr 25 12:06
EruaranI had an old x girfriend try to contact me through facebookApr 25 12:06
EruaranarghApr 25 12:06
Eruaranthe only time I look at it is on GWaveApr 25 12:07
EruaranWhat do you think of this _Goblin: http://picasaweb.google.com/farrance.jeremy/Techrights#5464021202221083266Apr 25 12:08
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EruaranI'm starting to get sick of the way Google links everything togetherApr 25 12:09
EruaranIts getting a bit disturbingApr 25 12:09
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EruaranGo on YouTube and get harassed to link with your Google account (gmail)Apr 25 12:10
_GoblinEruaran: Yes I like the idea, I don't though think the font fits with the pictureApr 25 12:12
_GoblinEruaran: and theres too much picture......Apr 25 12:12
_GoblinEruaran: either bigger text or smaller bannerApr 25 12:13
_GoblinimhoApr 25 12:13
EruaranyesApr 25 12:13
Eruaranits just an example thoughApr 25 12:13
_Goblinyour work though is all very good.....Apr 25 12:13
Eruaranits about the type and style of text and the kind of backdropApr 25 12:13
Eruaranwasnt to worried about size etcApr 25 12:14
EruaranthanksApr 25 12:14
_GoblinI wouldn't do too much...I'll be asking you for a logo soon!Apr 25 12:14
Eruaran:pApr 25 12:14
_Goblin..hint..... ;)Apr 25 12:14
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Eruaranthe idea with that example is that you can have a banner across the top of your page that is a nice backdrop with foreground text for your site name and other stuffApr 25 12:15
_Goblinyeah, I like it...I think a font similar to the one used now would suit the picture better.Apr 25 12:16
Eruaranfor something like columns yesApr 25 12:17
Eruaranas long as the text is high contrast to bring it firmly into the foregroundApr 25 12:18
_GoblinI also think a slogan is suitableApr 25 12:18
_Goblin"Cave quidis quando et cui" - Although thats mine...Apr 25 12:18
_Goblinmaybe......Apr 25 12:19
_Gobliner.....Apr 25 12:19
_Goblin...Apr 25 12:19
_GoblinahApr 25 12:19
_Goblin"fight the good fight"Apr 25 12:19
_Goblinbonum certamen certaApr 25 12:19
Eruaranor truth will prevailApr 25 12:20
_Goblinyeah, suggest that Latin phrase to Roy....."bonum certamen certa".....fight the good fight...sounds good.Apr 25 12:20
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_Goblinoff topic.....how does one go about registering a channel on IRC?Apr 25 12:22
Eruarantype /msg chanserv helpApr 25 12:22
Eruaranoh waitApr 25 12:23
EruarannevermindApr 25 12:23
_Goblinlol...Apr 25 12:23
_Goblinthe register command...Apr 25 12:23
_Goblinsort of obvious really.Apr 25 12:23
Eruaran:pApr 25 12:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Serves Patch to #Windows #Servers Which Can Compromise These Servers Rather Than Secure Them http://ur1.ca/wz3aApr 25 12:26
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] You can now go to a random NewsTechnica article! http://newstechnica.com/?randomApr 25 12:27
TechrightsBotTitle: Film and TV producers call for action on file-sharing | NewsTechnica .::. Size~: 39.29 KBApr 25 12:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Younger teen refuses to go to hospital for cracked arm. Honestly, you'd think she was her mother's daughter.Apr 25 12:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Setting up Openbytes on IRC....might be a better place for people to contact me. I just don't have the time to answer all emails.Apr 25 12:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Dear #cleanternet people, can we have your text script and an ogg version so free people can play and localize? #EU campaigns need that!Apr 25 12:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] There, done... #openbytes on freenode.net .... although the best place to talk would be #boycottnovellApr 25 12:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @thedwarfer: Lib Dems CAN win outright! YouGov shows http://bit.ly/d3Kmu5 #nickcleggsfault #ge2010 #libdems #ukelectionApr 25 12:47
TechrightsBotTitle: Could the Lib Dems win outright? | YouGov .::. Size~: 14.89 KBApr 25 12:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IBM Should Have Gone on With #rPath http://techrights.org/2010/04/25/ibm-and-novell-copycats/Apr 25 12:48
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Debt Almost Doubles to About $80 Billion in Just a Few Years http://ur1.ca/wzal #fraud #deficit #secApr 25 13:29
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schestowitz[12:20] <_Goblin> yeah, suggest that Latin phrase to Roy....."bonum certamen certa".....fight the good fight...sounds good.Apr 25 13:30
schestowitzI like!Apr 25 13:30
schestowitz[12:22] <_Goblin> off topic.....how does one go about registering a channel on IRC?Apr 25 13:30
schestowitzWe have 3 channelsApr 25 13:30
schestowitzMost people know about this one onlyApr 25 13:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] “While Google and Apple have no debt, Microsoft has a huge debt approaching a tenth of a trillion dollars.” http://ur1.ca/wzalApr 25 13:31
TechrightsBotTitle: Microsoft Debt Almost Doubles to About $80 Billion in Just a Few Years | Techrights .::. Size~: 97.42 KBApr 25 13:31
Aondohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITe20e3m33U&feature=player_embedded - qt software community manager :DApr 25 13:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Sonata Arctica remind me a little of SkidRow only 100 times better....watching a concert from Italy in 2009....great stuff....#metal #rockonApr 25 13:45
_Goblinschestowitz: Its only because I want a channel for people who want to speak directly with me.....I haven't the time to reply to all my emailsApr 25 13:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Can't remember the url/name of the GNOME app which shows keys and mouse actions in a little popup on screen.Apr 25 13:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Seattle Times Finally Questions #Microsoft ’s Political Games for Tax Avoidance http://ur1.ca/wzdd #fraud #government #lobbyingApr 25 13:52
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sebsebseb_Goblin: Freenode channel or Freenode staff in pm, can help you register a channelApr 25 13:53
sebsebseb_Goblin: first you need to join the one you want to register though,  and if it's not taken you canApr 25 13:53
_Goblinits done now....Apr 25 13:53
_Goblinquite simple...Apr 25 13:53
_Goblinregister command and thats itsApr 25 13:53
_Goblin*itApr 25 13:53
schestowitzAondo: that's kind of qtApr 25 13:53
sebsebseb_Goblin: so anyone can join or?Apr 25 13:53
_Goblinyeah its open to allApr 25 13:54
_Goblinits only so that I don't have to worry about answering all my emailsApr 25 13:54
sebsebseb_Goblin: which channel or I got to whois you?Apr 25 13:54
_Goblin#openbytesApr 25 13:54
sebsebsebuhmm why it's called that?Apr 25 13:54
_Goblinbecause of my site?Apr 25 13:54
_GoblinopenbytesApr 25 13:54
sebsebseboh you have a website as well ?Apr 25 13:55
_GoblinlolApr 25 13:55
_Goblinobviously Im not as popular as I thought I wasApr 25 13:55
sebsebseb_Goblin: hehApr 25 13:55
_Goblinsorry not popular....famousApr 25 13:55
sebsebseb_Goblin: well I seen  tweets or whatever from your account come in hereApr 25 13:55
sebsebseband  I guess I thought maybe you had a blog,Apr 25 13:55
_Goblina "blogazine"Apr 25 13:55
sebsebseb_Goblin: yeah you're not Roy Schestowitz   he is famous, but also in famous, when it comes to  people in the Linux campApr 25 13:56
_Goblinno Im not Roy.....Apr 25 13:56
_GoblinIm better looking ;)Apr 25 13:57
_Goblinalso got a cool cowboy hatApr 25 13:57
_Goblinand a beardApr 25 13:57
_Goblinand Roys not an internet sex symbol like me.Apr 25 13:57
_Goblin;)Apr 25 13:57
Eruaranhehe I did a TechRights logo in CocaCola fontApr 25 14:05
Eruaranjust for funApr 25 14:05
Aondoschestowitz, yea seems like he is having fun :P in the norwegian version of talentsApr 25 14:05
sebsebsebIn a way we should all be using #techrights now, but nopeApr 25 14:07
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Gah stupid keyboard.Apr 25 14:26
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] ♺ @lutzgh: "No software will be able to run on Mac OS X 10.7 without being approved and signed by Apple, Inc." http://ur1.ca/wythApr 25 14:33
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] A Microsoft artist's rendition of Satan. http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/File:GNU_Devil.pngApr 25 14:33
TechrightsBotTitle: File:GNU Devil.png - RationalWiki .::. Size~: 19.58 KBApr 25 14:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft ’s Phone Business as Dead as #Zune , But #Apple Too Loses Its Mind http://ur1.ca/wzl1 #iphone #kin #windowsApr 25 14:58
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EruaranbahApr 25 15:04
Eruaranmixing a red title with green motto ends up looking like a label for italian pasta sauceApr 25 15:05
Eruarannow there's a thoghtApr 25 15:05
Eruaran*thoughtApr 25 15:06
Eruaranno...Apr 25 15:06
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Just ran the command 'sudo yum install python-twisted-core' ;-)Apr 25 15:18
Eruaranhttp://picasaweb.google.com/farrance.jeremy/Techrights#5464075775270500658Apr 25 15:20
TechrightsBotTitle: Picasa Web Albums - farrance.jeremy - Techrights .::. Size~: 64.12 KBApr 25 15:20
Eruaran(I don't think the motto text is quite aligned properly... although I have been staring at fonts for hours and may be going crosseyed)Apr 25 15:21
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schestowitzEruaran: niceApr 25 15:57
schestowitzEruaran: I have an ideaApr 25 15:58
schestowitzPut the last one at the bottom of all pagesApr 25 15:58
schestowitzThe pillar one in the WikiApr 25 15:58
schestowitzAre the pillars photos not copyrighted?Apr 25 15:59
schestowitzI'm just checking to be sure, I'm very careful to avoid violationsApr 25 15:59
EruaranEven if it is I can manipulate it so its no longer recognizableApr 25 16:02
EruaranbesidesApr 25 16:03
schestowitzHmmmmm...Apr 25 16:04
Eruaranthey're corinthian columns... I'm not sure how many pictures of corinthian columns someone can look at (especially if its been manipulated) and decide they're even the same columns, let alone the same photo :pApr 25 16:04
schestowitzWhere did you get it?Apr 25 16:04
schestowitzYeah, I know what you meanApr 25 16:04
EruaranI've been working with another image of columnsApr 25 16:04
EruaranI've been working on a banner using the Techrights name with motto to the leftApr 25 16:05
Eruaranthe columns image I've been using is a bit more greyApr 25 16:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Zealand’s Case Against #swpats Made Clearer, and Why Free Software Must Reject Them http://ur1.ca/wzulApr 25 16:14
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schestowitzEruaran: http://techrights.org/2010/04/25/techirghts-on-pillars/Apr 25 16:17
TechrightsBotTitle: Which One is Better for the Front Page? | Techrights .::. Size~: 92.22 KBApr 25 16:17
schestowitzI've gotta go nowApr 25 16:17
schestowitzTHe Latin one will go in the footerApr 25 16:17
Eruaranlatin?Apr 25 16:18
EruaranohApr 25 16:18
Eruaran:pApr 25 16:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Enjoying a connected life at a centuries old palace's garden...Apr 25 17:00
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse140/@openuniverse140] still kind of unbelievable: apple plans to fully lock down your computing http://rixstep.com/1/20100424,00.shtmlApr 25 17:08
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] #nowplaying "vaa vennila... unnaithaaney vaanam theduthey" - Mohan hits :-)Apr 25 17:08
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Here: http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palácio_do_Marquês_de_PombalApr 25 17:10
TechrightsBotTitle: PAL - Wikipédia, a enciclopédia livre .::. Size~: 32.18 KBApr 25 17:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Yo, maps people, you'd already make sites for low power devices, eh?Apr 25 17:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] AndI mean a decent one, not that basic html google maps crapApr 25 17:14
Eruaranhttp://picasaweb.google.com/farrance.jeremy/Techrights#5464102592445415314Apr 25 17:15
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EruaranImages that may have copyright issues have been removedApr 25 17:16
EruaranAs well as some of the crappiers logosApr 25 17:16
Eruaran*crappierApr 25 17:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Well, first of all, all cases of homosexuality have been proven to be medically treatable. So, I were (cont) http://tl.gd/1147n1Apr 25 17:17
TechrightsBotTitle: Twitlonger: Well, first of all, all cases of homosexuality have been proven to be medically treatable. So, I wer .::. Size~: 8.31 KBApr 25 17:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Jeff Hardy's band is awful....maybe if #TNA plays it enough, someone will buy it. Absolute rubbish.Apr 25 17:44
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ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEwApr 25 17:54
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ender2070says it allApr 25 17:54
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Gawd, imagine growing up a girl looking like L. Ron Hubbard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LifeTimesApr 25 18:04
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GigantiCow_GoblinApr 25 18:10
GigantiCowso good to see you old trollApr 25 18:11
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GigantiCowi liked your last couple of articlesApr 25 18:13
GigantiCowwhens a new sky is falling article coming tho?Apr 25 18:15
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_GoblindamnApr 25 18:37
_Goblinmissed himApr 25 18:37
_GoblinOld troll?Apr 25 18:37
_Goblinwho's old?Apr 25 18:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Songbird gets forked after stopping Linux support.: http://url4.eu/2wBIDApr 25 18:40
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Eruaran_Goblin: u still here?Apr 25 18:45
_GoblinyepApr 25 18:45
Eruaranoh coolApr 25 18:45
_Goblinunhappy Ive missed Giganticow againApr 25 18:45
EruaranI've spent a bit of time working on the techrights title with latin mottoApr 25 18:46
_Goblinlink?Apr 25 18:46
_Goblinmy latin moto?Apr 25 18:46
EruaranyesApr 25 18:47
Eruaranhttp://picasaweb.google.com/farrance.jeremy/Techrights#5464102592445415314Apr 25 18:47
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_Goblinyes like it...Apr 25 18:48
_Goblinalthough, the latin text should be a little smallerApr 25 18:48
_Goblinnot much, just a littleApr 25 18:48
_GoblinimhoApr 25 18:48
Eruaranyes, it started biggerApr 25 18:48
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EruaranI'll make it smallerApr 25 18:49
_Goblinjust a littleApr 25 18:49
Omar87Hi all.Apr 25 18:49
_GoblinhiApr 25 18:49
Omar87_Goblin, hey!Apr 25 18:49
EruaranI'll remove the white around the text as well, I don't like itApr 25 18:49
Eruaranhi Omar87Apr 25 18:49
Omar87Guys, did my recent tweet appear here?Apr 25 18:49
_Goblinyeah.Apr 25 18:49
Omar87Eruaran, oh, hi! :)Apr 25 18:49
Omar87_Goblin, great.Apr 25 18:50
Eruaranthis one? - [03:26] [Notice] -BNtwitter to #boycottnovell- [omar_s_hafez] Songbird gets forked after stopping Linux support.:  http://url4.eu/2wBIDApr 25 18:50
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Omar87Eruaran, yupApr 25 18:51
schestowitz_Goblin: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Techrights:About also at bottom of all pages now. I like the new front page image... we have the other 21/20 in BN/techrightsApr 25 18:53
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Eruaran_Goblin: I will make the text smaller but keep the current one as I anticipated that Roy would be shrinking it, so the text has to be readableApr 25 18:53
schestowitzrpath links to us today because of some posts about themApr 25 18:54
schestowitzbrb, gotta do some work in the houseApr 25 18:54
_GoblinI got a link on Linux OutlawsApr 25 18:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Yay! http://is.gd/bHscf is what I was looking for earlier! Key Status Monitor. Shows keys being pressed in a popup on screen. And relax..Apr 25 18:54
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EruaranlolApr 25 18:55
Eruaranso he leaves it full sizeApr 25 18:55
Eruaran:pApr 25 18:55
EruaranI will definitely make the latin part smallerApr 25 18:55
Eruaranhttp://picasaweb.google.com/farrance.jeremy/Techrights#5464135728612014802Apr 25 19:12
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Eruaranlatin motto is slightly smallerApr 25 19:13
_Goblinyeah, I expect it will be still clear when its shrunkApr 25 19:15
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Was too busy today with shell script and tcpdump and other things. feeling happy.Apr 25 19:22
Eruaranbbl sleep timeApr 25 19:29
schestowitzgnApr 25 19:31
schestowitzhttp://seekingalpha.com/article/199263-sec-vs-goldman-questions-remainApr 25 19:33
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schestowitzhttp://seekingalpha.com/article/199263-sec-vs-goldman-questions-remainApr 25 19:33
TechrightsBotTitle: SEC vs. Goldman: Questions Remain -- Seeking Alpha .::. Size~: 92.34 KBApr 25 19:33
schestowitz"Is there any indication if GlassFish 4 will remain Open Source? Yes, GlassFish 4 will remain Open Source. " https://glassfish.dev.java.net/roadmap/Apr 25 19:35
TechrightsBotTitle:         glassfish:        GlassFish - Open Source Application Server     .::. Size~: 34 KBApr 25 19:35
schestowitzhttp://www.patentlyo.com/patent/2010/04/patent-absurdity-the-movie.html "You might also ask yourself what good has Linux done? What is new about Linux? And the model of development was not new by the way. Linus Turval did not innovate anything as far as can see." Apr 25 19:39
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schestowitz:-DApr 25 19:39
Omar87HiApr 25 19:40
Omar87schestowitz, 'sup?Apr 25 19:40
schestowitzGS spin: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/21/business/21deals.html?scp=2&sq=abacus&st=cseApr 25 19:46
TechrightsBotTitle: Goldman Says Losses Prove No Ill Intent - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 74.92 KBApr 25 19:46
schestowitzOmar87: jus' chillin', havin' a budApr 25 19:46
schestowitzhttp://trueslant.com/KashmirHill/2010/04/19/the-supreme-court-talks-about-an-employees-right-to-private-sexting/Apr 25 19:48
TechrightsBotTitle:   The Supreme Court talks about an employees right to private sexting - Kashmir Hill - The Not-So Private Parts - True/Slant .::. Size~: 157.71 KBApr 25 19:48
satiperaRoy, comments are still a bit twitchyApr 25 19:56
schestowitzOmar87: Groklaw says: "Underestimating how proprietary Microsoft would like the Internet to be is also a losing bet. But why would you cooperate? Facebook's interests are now clear, and are they in harmony with your own?"Apr 25 19:57
Omar87schestowitz, can you give me a link, plz?Apr 25 19:58
schestowitzsatipera: yes, like a third of them go into moderation since the domain changedApr 25 19:58
schestowitzsatipera: doneApr 25 19:58
satiperaoh,ok tyApr 25 19:59
schestowitzEruaran: http://techrights.org/2010/04/25/techirghts-on-pillars/#comment-89885Apr 25 20:03
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schestowitzsatipera: gotta go for a moment...........Apr 25 20:03
schestowitzin a hurry today, having fallen behindApr 25 20:03
MinceRschestowitz: i recommend Computer Modern or New Century Schoolbook instead of Times for that logoApr 25 20:05
MinceR(what does "bonum certamen certa" mean?)Apr 25 20:06
_Goblinfight the good fightApr 25 20:06
_GoblinlatinApr 25 20:06
MinceRniceApr 25 20:06
_Goblinmy idea....Apr 25 20:06
MinceR(times is less formal, overused and imo also ugly)Apr 25 20:07
_Goblinsince I use "Cave quid Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui."Apr 25 20:07
_Goblin"beware of what you say and to whom"Apr 25 20:07
MinceR:)Apr 25 20:07
MinceR"Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur."Apr 25 20:07
_GoblinlolApr 25 20:08
_Goblinagreed thoughApr 25 20:08
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_GoblinMicrosoft have taken up the idea tooApr 25 20:09
_Goblinhere is the new Windows sloganApr 25 20:09
_Goblin"Liberate Vos Ex Inferis"Apr 25 20:09
_Goblin"Save yourself from hell"Apr 25 20:09
MinceR"Ne auderis delere orbem rigidum meum."Apr 25 20:11
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_Goblinsaying that to Windows is a little pointless.Apr 25 20:18
_Goblinisn't that a standard feature?Apr 25 20:18
_GoblinI hope giganticow returns tonightApr 25 20:19
schestowitzIs he your "enemy"?Apr 25 20:19
_Goblindon't knowApr 25 20:20
_Goblinhe's a linsxx thoughApr 25 20:20
_GoblinI thinkApr 25 20:20
_GoblinIt might even be "Lucy"Apr 25 20:21
schestowitzLuvyy... grrrr :-ppApr 25 20:21
schestowitz"Lucy da costa, what you are wearin'?"Apr 25 20:22
_Goblinpulling a Lucy - "To change ones gender in order to support your argument"Apr 25 20:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Giganticow, Giganticow, Where for art thou Giganticow?Apr 25 20:22
schestowitzLucid..Apr 25 20:22
schestowitzI think that's what he meant?Apr 25 20:22
_Goblinit was Lucy Buntu, so maybeApr 25 20:23
_Goblinno response from Elive devs..... :(Apr 25 20:24
schestowitzAbout cost?Apr 25 20:24
_Goblinyeah....Apr 25 20:25
_Goblinby the way roy, if you want to complete this conversation you have to pay me £10Apr 25 20:25
schestowitzhttp://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/04/maddow_mocks_supreme_courts_la.htmlApr 25 20:25
_Goblinotherwise...enjoy the tasterApr 25 20:25
TechrightsBotTitle: Maddow Mocks Supreme Courts Lack of Tech Savvy via Puppetry -- Daily Intel .::. Size~: 59.97 KBApr 25 20:25
schestowitzelive has no devsApr 25 20:25
schestowitzIt has dev Apr 25 20:25
schestowitzafaikApr 25 20:25
schestowitzBut there's upstream/downstreamApr 25 20:26
_Goblinon the site, Im sure it listed a few.....Apr 25 20:26
schestowitzHow many fully active?Apr 25 20:26
_GoblinpassApr 25 20:26
schestowitzIt's like those sites that amplify by listing peopleApr 25 20:26
schestowitzwe at techrights could make a "board"Apr 25 20:26
schestowitzthen list you and othersApr 25 20:26
schestowitzPut some mugsApr 25 20:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] New Blog Post | eValue | The Digital Prism - it's an in-depth one http://tinyurl.com/26w3bucApr 25 20:26
TechrightsBotTitle: eValue | The Digital Prism .::. Size~: 24.53 KBApr 25 20:26
schestowitzGive fancy titles like "director", manager, assistant editor, PR manager, etc.Apr 25 20:27
_Goblina different piece of news today....Steven Hawking says we shouldn't try to contact aliens.Apr 25 20:27
schestowitzAnd voila! it looks differentApr 25 20:27
schestowitzSome groups like Big Brother Watch do thatApr 25 20:27
schestowitz_Goblin: yeah, waste of energyApr 25 20:27
schestowitzThey scan for prime numbersApr 25 20:27
_Goblinthat wasn't the line he was going downApr 25 20:27
schestowitzThis assume that radio transmissions are what another civilisation invents.. to them broadcast prime numbersApr 25 20:28
_Goblinhe assumed that if aliens were technologically advanced enough to come here that they probably would be like nomads having striped their own planet of all resources....looking for conquest.Apr 25 20:28
schestowitzProbablyApr 25 20:28
schestowitzBut why would they just broadcast to find life and not travel?Apr 25 20:29
schestowitzAnd why would they need Earth?Apr 25 20:29
_GoblinresourcesApr 25 20:29
schestowitzWe have life and atromsphereApr 25 20:29
_Goblinif we are to believe earth like planets are a rarityApr 25 20:29
schestowitzBut they have resources in bigger planetsApr 25 20:29
schestowitzDepends what /type/ of resourcesApr 25 20:29
_Goblinmaybe they want Microsoft?Apr 25 20:29
schestowitzGive it 2 them...Apr 25 20:29
schestowitzBased on the alien proponents, all they'll do is some rectal probing, then back to bed before dawnApr 25 20:30
schestowitzAnd no evidence at all leftApr 25 20:30
_Goblinafter seeing one of ballmers stage performances, theres proof that alien life has already landed.Apr 25 20:30
schestowitzNoApr 25 20:30
schestowitzThat we evolve from other apesApr 25 20:30
schestowitzhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/18/AR2007031801130.htmlApr 25 20:31
_GoblinI personally think we started on Mars.Apr 25 20:31
TechrightsBotTitle: Behavior May Suggest We're Not Only Human - washingtonpost.com .::. Size~: 92.81 KBApr 25 20:31
schestowitz'When Emory University primatologist Frans de Waal read a news story that said Microsoft's chief executive, Steve Ballmer, had hurled a chair across the room on hearing an employee was going to work for rival Google, the scientist immediately made a connection with his own research: "When I see such behavior, I think of a chimpanzee." 'Apr 25 20:31
schestowitzClassic article, I love itApr 25 20:31
schestowitz_Goblin: why?Apr 25 20:31
_Goblinand when Mars became uninhabitable, we shipped all our stuff to earth....Apr 25 20:31
_Goblinand started againApr 25 20:32
ThistleWebto rehash an old joke, some people living today could be seen as living proof that somebody somewhere pissed in the gene poolApr 25 20:32
schestowitz_Goblin: http://www.seattlepi.com/local/418746_video.html?source=mypiApr 25 20:32
TechrightsBotTitle: Local computer security expert investigates police practices .::. Size~: 55.93 KBApr 25 20:32
schestowitzyou and your police !!Apr 25 20:32
satipera I left a comment  the techrights in red looks very goodApr 25 20:32
_Goblinthe pyramids.....religion, it could all be explained by discovered tech that people at the time couldn't fathom.Apr 25 20:32
schestowitz_Goblin: no evidenceApr 25 20:32
schestowitzAnd Mars is smallerApr 25 20:32
_Goblinso?Apr 25 20:32
schestowitzAlso, that does not explain "We"Apr 25 20:33
schestowitzWe as in...Apr 25 20:33
schestowitzHumans?Apr 25 20:33
_Goblinmy problem with evolution is this......Apr 25 20:33
schestowitzWhat happened to the evolutionary chain?Apr 25 20:33
_Goblinif we are agreed that dinosaurs were masters.......Apr 25 20:33
schestowitzMars is about the same age as EarthApr 25 20:33
_Goblinand then they were wiped out....Apr 25 20:33
schestowitz4.5 billionApr 25 20:33
_Goblinfor whatever reason.....Apr 25 20:33
schestowitzAdd or take away a few hundred millionsApr 25 20:33
_Goblinwhy didn't they come back? surely life evolves the most effective forms for the environment?Apr 25 20:34
schestowitz_Goblin: yesApr 25 20:34
schestowitzAbout 99% of the species are extinctApr 25 20:34
schestowitzThe dinosaur are nothing specialApr 25 20:34
schestowitzThey were just bigApr 25 20:34
_Goblinbut why?Apr 25 20:34
schestowitzLike a whaleApr 25 20:34
_Goblinwhat was the reason for their size?Apr 25 20:34
schestowitzThey are similar genetically to some reptile we still haveApr 25 20:34
_Goblinand why didn't future life in the main emulate the size?Apr 25 20:34
schestowitzsee C|Komodo dragon for exampleApr 25 20:34
schestowitz[20:34] <_Goblin> why didn't they come back? surely life evolves the most effective forms for the environment?Apr 25 20:35
schestowitzHumans changes thingsApr 25 20:35
_Goblinhow about.....dinosaurs here....we move from mars...in an ark (animals came in two's as per bible) and then progress here.Apr 25 20:35
schestowitzWe reduce populations nowApr 25 20:35
schestowitzBut in geological teams we're just a bleep in the radarApr 25 20:35
schestowitzIf we destroy ourselves, there's enough time for new stuff to come outApr 25 20:36
_Goblinthe bagdad battery could be evidence of electricity harnessing thousands of years before we allegedly discovered it...Apr 25 20:36
schestowitzBut Human won't come back againApr 25 20:36
schestowitzit'll take another routeApr 25 20:36
_Goblinunless....Apr 25 20:36
schestowitzCosmos explains this too, I think... Apr 25 20:36
_Goblinhuman form is the ultimate form....Apr 25 20:36
*WireWulf-away is now known as WireWulfApr 25 20:36
schestowitz_Goblin: same with Greek cultureApr 25 20:36
schestowitzWe knew some things that went away... discovered again much laterApr 25 20:36
_GoblinAncient astronaughts.....Apr 25 20:37
schestowitzNow we have the Lib of Congress and stuffApr 25 20:37
schestowitzFor curatorsApr 25 20:37
_Goblinits certainly more plausable than gods or aliens.Apr 25 20:37
schestowitzAlso, we depend too much on digitalApr 25 20:37
schestowitzAustralia has a very old copy of the Magna CartaApr 25 20:37
schestowitz_Goblin: no astronautsApr 25 20:37
schestowitzWe had chemicals come hereApr 25 20:38
schestowitzThat's what we're made ofApr 25 20:38
schestowitzAsteroids and stuffApr 25 20:38
schestowitzStellar dustApr 25 20:38
_Goblinbut where did the "stuff" come from?Apr 25 20:38
_Goblinand where did that come from?Apr 25 20:38
schestowitzBut evolution started here probablyApr 25 20:38
_Goblinand so on.Apr 25 20:38
schestowitzUnless simile life came here from a comet or somethingApr 25 20:38
schestowitz*simpleApr 25 20:38
_GoblinI think, its entirely possible we are the first race....Apr 25 20:38
_Goblinand it will be us that populates the cosmosApr 25 20:39
schestowitz_Goblin: it came from Nebula, erc.Apr 25 20:39
schestowitzSupernovas spread a lot of stuffApr 25 20:39
schestowitzFrom just 1-2 elements we get many moreApr 25 20:39
_Goblinand where did nebula come from?Apr 25 20:39
_Goblineventually you get to point zero.....Apr 25 20:39
schestowitzDepending on their electronic, sub-atomic compositionApr 25 20:39
_Goblinwhere nothing exists.Apr 25 20:39
schestowitzIn the early days of the galaxies there were fewer atomic elementsApr 25 20:39
schestowitzMassive fusions and explosions have the power to change themApr 25 20:40
schestowitzIn Stanford labs they can now do a form of alchemyApr 25 20:40
schestowitzOne atom at a time, takes weeksApr 25 20:40
_Goblinthats why Startrek was so insightful#Apr 25 20:40
_Goblinthe ipadApr 25 20:40
_Goblinthe tricorderApr 25 20:40
_Goblinand soon the replicatorApr 25 20:40
schestowitzLHC collides hadrons, that's including quarks and very minor elementsApr 25 20:40
_Goblinholodecks have already been patented by MicrosoftApr 25 20:41
schestowitzSmaller than you can imagine or see with microscopes I thinkApr 25 20:41
schestowitzAtom was split in Victoria U. of Manechster in 1948ishApr 25 20:41
schestowitzSince then we have already know more about the realm of the very smallApr 25 20:41
schestowitzphotons, electrons, matter , anti-matter, black holes etc. (knows before that)Apr 25 20:42
schestowitz_Goblin: but replicators violate laws of natureApr 25 20:42
schestowitzhttp://reprap.org/wiki/Main_PageApr 25 20:43
TechrightsBotTitle: RepRapWiki .::. Size~: 18.75 KBApr 25 20:43
schestowitzUnless you have material to carveApr 25 20:43
schestowitzHP has just announced 3-D printersApr 25 20:43
_Goblinthis sounds really bad but.....Apr 25 20:44
_GoblinI tried Audacity for the first time today.Apr 25 20:44
_Goblinprior Id just played everything through VLCApr 25 20:45
_Goblinoh and I meant to say.....Apr 25 20:45
_GoblinIve given up trying to get shoutbox in Wordpress.Apr 25 20:45
_GoblinIt wont let you.Apr 25 20:45
schestowitz"It means public in the Facebook ecosystem. My advice to you: Be aware of your privacy settings. http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2010/04/how-facebooks-newest-feature-could-change-the-internet/39333/Apr 25 20:47
TechrightsBotTitle: How Facebook's Newest Feature Could Change the Internet - Business - The Atlantic .::. Size~: 65.57 KBApr 25 20:47
_Goblinnever seen the appeal of facebookApr 25 20:48
schestowitz_Goblin: satipera opposes the LatinApr 25 20:49
schestowitzHe says it's coming across as pretentious.Apr 25 20:49
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/04/25/techirghts-on-pillars/#comment-89888Apr 25 20:49
TechrightsBotTitle: Which One is Better for the Front Page? | Techrights .::. Size~: 95.16 KBApr 25 20:49
_Goblinpretentious?Apr 25 20:49
_Goblinmoi?Apr 25 20:49
schestowitzI quite like that slogan personallyApr 25 20:49
_GoblinI think its great...Apr 25 20:49
schestowitzPeople will ask what it means and say "ah!" when they get the answerApr 25 20:49
schestowitzI get some E-mails saying that Apr 25 20:50
_GoblinIt generates interestApr 25 20:51
_GoblinI thinkApr 25 20:51
_Goblinand its served me well...."Beware of what you say and to whom"Apr 25 20:51
_Goblinits always nice to qoute that to the nymshifters and shillsApr 25 20:51
_Goblinso they can't say (when they are exposed) that I didn't warn them.Apr 25 20:52
ThistleWebjust noticed the front page post, the pilars scream "Rome" to me, which lost it's Empire status long agoApr 25 20:54
schestowitzSo bad?Apr 25 20:55
schestowitzRome is still legendaryApr 25 20:55
ThistleWebyeahApr 25 20:55
schestowitzbrbApr 25 20:55
ThistleWebit's also very ancient historyApr 25 20:55
ThistleWebit may have modern fonts on the words, which look out of place, but the pilars scream "old"Apr 25 20:55
MinceRnot to meApr 25 20:56
ThistleWebI do like some of the fonts / colours being suggested thoughApr 25 20:56
MinceRto me the pillars seem to fit the legal theme wellApr 25 20:56
_Goblinand the latinApr 25 20:57
MinceRigpay atinlayApr 25 20:58
ThistleWebI dunno, to me, latin is fine for old institutions, not really a natural fit for modern onesApr 25 20:59
ThistleWeblike anything, it's just an opinionApr 25 20:59
_Goblinmincer: that got me....then I saw...pigApr 25 20:59
MinceR:>Apr 25 21:00
MinceRthere's also canis latinusApr 25 21:00
_Goblindog....?Apr 25 21:00
MinceRdog latinApr 25 21:00
_Goblinyeah....never heard of dog latinApr 25 21:01
MinceRperhaps dogus latinus would be a better term for it ;)Apr 25 21:01
_GoblinorApr 25 21:01
_GoblinBigus DickusApr 25 21:01
*MinceR snickersApr 25 21:01
_Goblinfancy a titter when mention my friend?Apr 25 21:01
ThistleWebthe church kept the bible in latin for as long as they could because they knew the common people coulndt read it and therefor needed them as interpretorsApr 25 21:01
_GoblinI have a very great friend in Rome called Biggus DickusApr 25 21:01
*MinceR snickers againApr 25 21:02
schestowitzNot DavidApr 25 21:02
MinceRhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_latinApr 25 21:02
TechrightsBotTitle: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden .::. Size~: 0 KBApr 25 21:02
_GoblinNautius MaximusApr 25 21:02
ThistleWebeventually they had to release it in a language the people could read themselvesApr 25 21:02
schestowitzhttp://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i4062457efae56fa3a40d08067da3907aApr 25 21:02
_Goblincan't think of any other silly names....Apr 25 21:02
TechrightsBotTitle: Film company explains Hitler meme takedown .::. Size~: 67.07 KBApr 25 21:02
ThistleWebglutious maximusApr 25 21:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] You want to adblock LJ's affiliate link theft? All links stop working! http://marahmarie.dreamwidth.org/44265.htmlApr 25 21:02
TechrightsBotTitle: marahmarie | Blocking LJ scripts? Fine. You will not be able to open any links on LJ. They will "freeze". .::. Size~: 45.3 KBApr 25 21:02
schestowitzhttp://www.templetons.com/video/hitler-dmca.aviApr 25 21:03
TechrightsBotTitle: Not a web page! Aborting video/x-msvideo type .::. Size~: 0 KBApr 25 21:03
MinceRHe has a wife, you know. You know what she's called? She's called... 'Incontinentia'... Incontinentia Buttocks Apr 25 21:03
schestowitzhttp://ideas.4brad.com/studio-does-content-id-takedown-my-hitler-video-about-takedownsApr 25 21:04
TechrightsBotTitle: Studio does content-ID takedown of my Hitler video about takedowns | Brad Ideas .::. Size~: 42.84 KBApr 25 21:04
schestowitzAndre is sillus impotusApr 25 21:04
schestowitzbrbApr 25 21:04
ThistleWebto many peeps now, latin sounding names will just sound like spells from the Harry Potter seriesApr 25 21:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] How the machine works http://yorksranter.wordpress.com/2010/04/25/thuds-and-screams-in-wapping/Apr 25 21:06
TechrightsBotTitle: thuds and screams in Wapping « Alternate Seat of TYR .::. Size~: 51.11 KBApr 25 21:06
_Goblinthistleweb: ExpeliamusApr 25 21:08
_Goblinor somethingApr 25 21:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] People calling LJ on their shit: http://news.livejournal.com/124785.html?thread=82776177#t82776177 (please forward)Apr 25 21:08
TechrightsBotTitle: news: LiveJournal Major Notes: A la carte userpics, Google Analytics, Frank recycles! .::. Size~: 59.63 KBApr 25 21:08
ThistleWeblol, exactlyApr 25 21:08
ThistleWebbigus dickus could just be an additional unused scene from where Harry is the celeb promoting male enhancement spellsApr 25 21:10
*WireWulf is now known as WireWulf-awayApr 25 21:18
_Goblinlol...Apr 25 21:19
MinceRsony innovates further on the field of screwing their customers >> http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/04/22/1641225/Sony-Can-Update-PS3-Firmware-Without-Permission?from=rssApr 25 21:20
TechrightsBotTitle: Slashdot Games Story | Sony Can Update PS3 Firmware Without Permission .::. Size~: 174.81 KBApr 25 21:21
cubezzzI think a real computer is better than a video game consoleApr 25 21:23
schestowitzMinceR: saw it yesterday, pasted hereApr 25 21:23
schestowitzSony is always anti-customer,they are part of the MAFIAAApr 25 21:23
schestowitzrootkits, DRM, lawsuits versus poor customers who share a fileApr 25 21:23
cubezzzSony headphones are OK :)Apr 25 21:24
schestowitzSony a bi*chApr 25 21:24
cubezzzso which manufacturers are good?Apr 25 21:24
MinceRi didn't find it in lastlog, you guys talk too much ;)Apr 25 21:24
MinceRmy sony headphones are fine, but i'm not sure if i'd buy any moreApr 25 21:25
schestowitzI no longer use my headphones, wil give that good set away soonApr 25 21:25
schestowitzhttp://www.scripting.com/stories/2010/04/21/toFacebookTheAnswerMustBeN.htmlApr 25 21:26
schestowitz"So now we know what Zuckerberg's megalomania is, and he's brilliant, and hired the right guys (the FF team) to make it happen. But think about the role he's cast himself in for a minute. Facebook is to be the identity system for the web. A company? That just can't work. I can't believe he doesn't know that. Even Bill Gates didn't have the audacity to propose that!"Apr 25 21:26
TechrightsBotTitle: To Facebook the answer must be no. (Scripting News) .::. Size~: 11.82 KBApr 25 21:26
schestowitzThey are given too much powerApr 25 21:26
schestowitzAnd they 'sell' space to Microsoft nowApr 25 21:26
schestowitzDiversion of customer whom they spy onApr 25 21:26
MinceRthere were other nefarious inventions gates was envious ofApr 25 21:26
cubezzzSony had a lot of good inventions thoughApr 25 21:27
cubezzzit seems the good companies die and the evil ones live onApr 25 21:29
ThistleWebsony are a mixed bag, some depts are cool, while others are insaneApr 25 21:29
schestowitzGroklaw links to http://www.oregonlive.com/lake-oswego/index.ssf/2010/04/video_of_99-year-old_lake_oswego_woman_with_ipad_goes_viral.htmlApr 25 21:29
TechrightsBotTitle: Video of 99-year-old Lake Oswego woman with iPad goes viral | OregonLive.com .::. Size~: 79.41 KBApr 25 21:29
ThistleWebmy new ereader is excellent, a sony, sunning linuxApr 25 21:29
ThistleWebrunning*Apr 25 21:29
schestowitzI never said to PJ that she ought to tone down the Apple boosting...Apr 25 21:29
schestowitzMinceR: no, he just "Steals" themApr 25 21:30
schestowitzHis workApr 25 21:30
ThistleWebtheir artists websites are drupal, they employ the jquery devApr 25 21:30
schestowitz[His words]Apr 25 21:30
ThistleWebbut they also do stupid stuff like update the ps3 to block linux installsApr 25 21:30
schestowitzThistleWeb: all the ereaders run Linux (almost)Apr 25 21:30
ThistleWebyeah I think soApr 25 21:30
schestowitzSome use Google's bastard child of Linux, Andr01dApr 25 21:30
cubezzzLinux is creeping up on everybody :)Apr 25 21:30
ThistleWebI found the sony ones are montavista linuxApr 25 21:30
ThistleWebdunno about the othersApr 25 21:31
schestowitzmany are andr0idApr 25 21:31
ThistleWebI do know its an excellent lil deviceApr 25 21:31
schestowitzno maemoApr 25 21:31
schestowitzNo sugarApr 25 21:31
MinceR221459 < schestowitz> I never said to PJ that she ought to tone down the Apple boosting...Apr 25 21:31
schestowitzSugar would be good for itApr 25 21:31
cubezzzheck, you could just use zaurus for ereader and it's a lot more versatileApr 25 21:31
MinceRwhy?Apr 25 21:31
schestowitzMinceR: would create disconfortApr 25 21:31
schestowitzit's her right to like AppleApr 25 21:32
MinceRyeah, it would make crApple cultists uncomfortableApr 25 21:32
schestowitz*mfortApr 25 21:32
MinceRand they deserve to be uncomfortableApr 25 21:32
enthymemeheheApr 25 21:32
schestowitzMinceR: no, not with GroklawApr 25 21:32
MinceRand she doesn't have to boost crAppleApr 25 21:32
schestowitzI contributed to Groklaw since 2006Apr 25 21:32
schestowitzI won't make any fussApr 25 21:32
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cubezzzI think we have yet to establish which companies are goodApr 25 21:32
MinceRperhaps the fanboys can survive not continually reading about how great crApple isApr 25 21:32
schestowitzcubezzz: we have listsApr 25 21:32
MinceRespecially if it means that groklaw won't damage FLOSS in the futureApr 25 21:33
schestowitzcubezzz: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Companies_That_Harm_Software_FreedomApr 25 21:33
TechrightsBotTitle: Companies That Harm Software Freedom - Techrights .::. Size~: 10.84 KBApr 25 21:33
schestowitzHere's an ideaApr 25 21:33
schestowitzCreate a wiki account, add sony and othersApr 25 21:33
MinceRotherwise the fanboys could just make up some mantras to praise crApple and jobs and say them all day while living in a cellApr 25 21:33
schestowitzMinceR: it helps FLOSSApr 25 21:33
MinceRno need to waste a news site on thatApr 25 21:33
cubezzzwe have a bad list, but no list for good :)Apr 25 21:33
MinceRschestowitz: boosting crApple damages FLOSSApr 25 21:33
schestowitzBut Apple/psystar is counter-produtive, imhoApr 25 21:33
schestowitzMinceR: I knowApr 25 21:33
MinceRschestowitz: it also damages small software companies (even non-FLOSS)Apr 25 21:34
schestowitzIt's like, "if you don't like Microsoft products, there's Apple"Apr 25 21:34
MinceRschestowitz: it also damages liberties all over the planetApr 25 21:34
schestowitzShe should warn people about both companiesApr 25 21:34
schestowitzThen say, "here, have FL/OSS"Apr 25 21:34
schestowitzMinceR: mail herApr 25 21:34
schestowitzpj2 groklaw.netApr 25 21:34
MinceRyou could take over groklaw's position :>Apr 25 21:34
schestowitzI don't want to Apr 25 21:34
schestowitzNot outside IRCApr 25 21:34
schestowitzIt would not helpApr 25 21:35
MinceRwhy?Apr 25 21:35
schestowitzIf we exchange fire with another FOSS siteApr 25 21:35
schestowitzWaste of time and energyApr 25 21:35
MinceRi'm not talking about exchanging fireApr 25 21:35
schestowitzDoesn't matterApr 25 21:35
schestowitzCriticising itApr 25 21:35
schestowitzWon't workApr 25 21:35
MinceRjust providing the same service, without the crApple boosting :>Apr 25 21:35
schestowitzAnd she won't changeApr 25 21:35
schestowitzShe spent a lot of time promoting themApr 25 21:35
schestowitzNot she needs to justify itApr 25 21:36
schestowitzShe defended Apple when they censored appsApr 25 21:36
schestowitzWhen they ties h/wApr 25 21:36
schestowitzetc.Apr 25 21:36
MinceRdisgustingApr 25 21:36
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schestowitzAnd afaik she bought some apple stuff, but it's none of our bizApr 25 21:36
MinceRin the same way /. boosting crApple is none of our business? :>Apr 25 21:36
schestowitzI thought abouit buying a Mac... like 6 years ago.. I wasn't closeApr 25 21:37
schestowitzI was on SUSE at the time, I just thought "what if?"Apr 25 21:37
schestowitzI'd never buy such a thngApr 25 21:37
schestowitzI needed a computer for research, not an anti-pr0n toyApr 25 21:37
schestowitzMinceR: /, also boosts msft sometimesApr 25 21:37
ThistleWebbefore I got my desktop, I saw a mac on sale, I was tempted by the designer look.....had no idea about windows / apple / linux etc at the timeApr 25 21:37
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/search?q=site:techrights.org+slashdot&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8&hl=en-GBApr 25 21:38
TechrightsBotTitle: site:techrights.org slashdot - Google Search .::. Size~: 25.75 KBApr 25 21:38
ThistleWeball I thought was "too expensive for what you get, specially as it's second hand"Apr 25 21:38
schestowitzsecond hand +white -> brownApr 25 21:38
schestowitzstainy macsApr 25 21:38
schestowitzYou don't want /that/Apr 25 21:38
ThistleWebit looked in good conditionApr 25 21:38
ThistleWebbut it was pre-ownedApr 25 21:38
schestowitzLinux runs on anythingApr 25 21:39
MinceRschestowitz: i knowApr 25 21:39
schestowitzEven my Pal m TungtenApr 25 21:39
schestowitzif I wanted to install it anywayApr 25 21:39
ThistleWebwas one of the "system combined with monitor" modelsApr 25 21:39
schestowitz*Palm TungstenApr 25 21:39
MinceRschestowitz: does /. boosting m$ make /. boosting crApple our business, then? :>Apr 25 21:39
schestowitzThistleWeb: so.... a PCApr 25 21:39
schestowitzRenamed "Mac".... like shirts you give a name to... like ChanelApr 25 21:40
ThistleWebno, built in....it was a keyboard, mouse and monitorApr 25 21:40
schestowitzWith French accentsApr 25 21:40
ThistleWebthe system was combined with the monitor so theres no boxApr 25 21:40
schestowitzThistleWeb: not good if all in the same setApr 25 21:40
ThistleWebexactlyApr 25 21:40
schestowitzApple has proprietary peripheralsApr 25 21:40
schestowitzExpensive to replaceApr 25 21:40
ThistleWebthat was a large part of what put me offApr 25 21:40
schestowitzAnd if you spill your tea on the kb...Apr 25 21:40
ThistleWeblooks damn cool, but not that practicalApr 25 21:40
MinceRand if you need service, there's only one place you can go toApr 25 21:41
schestowitzThistleWeb: nobody see your computerApr 25 21:41
schestowitzNot on the Net anywayApr 25 21:41
ThistleWeband thatApr 25 21:41
schestowitzhttp://weblogs.mozillazine.org/gerv/archives/2007/images/internet_dog.jpgApr 25 21:41
TechrightsBotTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KBApr 25 21:41
schestowitzhttp://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/common/consultations/customs/ipr_2010_03_en.htmApr 25 21:42
TechrightsBotTitle: Review of customs legislation on enforcement of intellectual property rights - European commission .::. Size~: 44.67 KBApr 25 21:42
schestowitz"- IP right holders and their business associations; ....... All citizens and organisations are welcome to contribute to this consultation. "Apr 25 21:42
schestowitzIP address?Apr 25 21:42
schestowitzI have the right to static IPApr 25 21:42
schestowitzI'm an IP holderApr 25 21:42
schestowitzI also have copyright on some stuffApr 25 21:43
schestowitzhttp://www.serverwatch.com/news/article.php/3877861/IBM-Adopts-Novells-Linux-OS-for-Lotus-Websphere-Appliances.htmApr 25 21:43
schestowitz"Google's roving Street View spycam may blur your face, but it's got your number. The Street View service is under fire in Germany for scanning private WLAN networks, and recording users' unique Mac (Media Access Control) addresses, as the car trundles along."http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/22/google_streetview_logs_wlans/Apr 25 21:44
TechrightsBotTitle: Google Street View logs WiFi networks, Mac addresses • The Register .::. Size~: 36.49 KBApr 25 21:44
schestowitz They can get MAC addresses???Apr 25 21:44
schestowitzTo Google?Apr 25 21:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Based on http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/22/google_streetview_logs_wlans/ , Google has a way to get your MAC address too #surveillanceApr 25 21:45
TechrightsBotTitle: Google Street View logs WiFi networks, Mac addresses • The Register .::. Size~: 36.49 KBApr 25 21:45
schestowitzOrlowski the MPAA troll doesn't know that MAC is an acronym?Apr 25 21:46
MinceRwhy would a MAFIAA troll know anything at all?Apr 25 21:46
MinceRcriminal organizations like that thrive on ignoranceApr 25 21:47
schestowitzGimme gimme gimme a MAC after midnight........Apr 25 21:47
MinceR:DApr 25 21:47
schestowitzhttp://www.schwimmerlegal.com/2010/04/please_share_th.htmlApr 25 21:47
TechrightsBotTitle: The Trademark Blog: Please Share This On Facebook .::. Size~: 7.21 KBApr 25 21:48
ThistleWebschestowitz: lol, they tell you not to feed the gremlins after midnight, even if it is a big macApr 25 21:48
schestowitz"I logged onto CNN.COM and immediately noticed my friend's name next to a CNN headline. What? After some confusion, I realized that CNN has installed Facebook's Open Graph Plug-in. This article will explain it better than I will, but I'll try any way. My friend must have indicated that she had 'liked' a particular article by 'sharing' it on FB."Apr 25 21:48
schestowitzI think "facek00k" is too crassApr 25 21:48
MinceRi don't think it isApr 25 21:48
schestowitzHow about something that says it's malicious and a spy?Apr 25 21:48
schestowitzfacespook?Apr 25 21:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Ubisoft DRM – Busted! – Has an Amiga group saved gamers? http://tinyurl.com/2wbclwz #piracy #windows #ubisoft #crack #drm #failApr 25 21:48
schestowitzfacepook?Apr 25 21:48
TechrightsBotTitle: Ubisoft DRM  Busted!  Has an Amiga group saved gamers? « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 31.53 KBApr 25 21:48
ThistleWebspookbookApr 25 21:48
MinceRwhat i use in hungarian to refer to it is roughly equivalent to "dickbook"Apr 25 21:48
schestowitzfaspook?Apr 25 21:48
MinceR(and i didn't invent that)Apr 25 21:48
DaemonFChttp://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Weekend/dying-homeless-man-stopped-mugging-york-sidewalk/story?id=10471047Apr 25 21:51
TechrightsBotTitle: Dying Homeless Man Who Stopped Mugging Ignored on Sidewalk - ABC News .::. Size~: 68.95 KBApr 25 21:51
DaemonFCWhat you get for stopping to help someoneApr 25 21:51
ThistleWebarrested?Apr 25 21:51
ThistleWebbeat up?Apr 25 21:51
ThistleWebrobbed?Apr 25 21:51
ThistleWebshoulda read the link first, DOHApr 25 21:52
DaemonFCmurdered while hundreds of people walk over you as you dieApr 25 21:52
DaemonFCor stop to take picturesApr 25 21:52
DaemonFCthen to make things worse, they get some douchebag psychiatrist to say the reason nobody helped him is because "We're desensitized to violence"Apr 25 21:53
DaemonFCNobody stopped to help them because he was a strangerApr 25 21:53
DaemonFCnobody cared because it wasn't themApr 25 21:53
schestowitzhttp://microsofttaxdodge.com/2010/04/microsoft-gets-nevada-royalty-tax-cut-and-tax-amnesty.htmlApr 25 21:54
TechrightsBotTitle: Microsoft Wins Nevada Royalty Tax Cut and Tax Amnesty; Reports Record Revenue - Microsoft Tax Dodge .::. Size~: 39.83 KBApr 25 21:54
schestowitzDaemonFC: how is ABC?Apr 25 21:54
schestowitz[Credibility wise]Apr 25 21:54
DaemonFCschestowitz: Did you see where Obama met with Billy Graham and an Obama spokesman called the fraudster who bilks billions out of millions a "great treasure to our country"Apr 25 21:54
DaemonFC:)Apr 25 21:55
schestowitzDaemonFC: you would stomp tooApr 25 21:55
schestowitzI see how you treat people outside your circleApr 25 21:55
schestowitzDaemonFC: /country/campaign funding/?Apr 25 21:55
DaemonFCyes, because calling someone a fucking idiot and leaving someone to bleed out on a sidewalk are the same thingApr 25 21:55
DaemonFCtotallyApr 25 21:55
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC8kuSKU5UU&feature=digest Apr 25 21:55
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- Change Congress Chronicles vol. 5: Scott Brown's Independenc .::. Size~: 75.9 KBApr 25 21:56
DaemonFCI can surely see how those line upApr 25 21:56
DaemonFCschestowitz: Massachusetts sent Brown to the Senate for one reason. Everyone in Massachusetts already has health insurance and don't want to pay taxes into a federal poolApr 25 21:57
DaemonFCthey somehow think they're getting a better deal with a pool much smallerApr 25 21:57
DaemonFCwhich totally defies all logic, but that's people for you :)Apr 25 21:58
DaemonFCwhat will eventually happen is that the federal pool will kick in, their state pool will go away, their taxes will come down, and Scott Brown will be a one term SenatorApr 25 21:59
DaemonFC:DApr 25 21:59
DaemonFCbut the fact is, populism stuck us with him for the next six yearsApr 25 21:59
DaemonFCthe Senate was never intended to be popularly elected, it was designed to be a check against populismApr 25 21:59
DaemonFCUS Senators were supposed to be elected through the legislatures of the states, bot by popular voteApr 25 22:00
DaemonFCthat's the cause of this messApr 25 22:00
DaemonFC*notApr 25 22:00
schestowitzhttp://www.metafilter.com/91077/Seiri-Seiton-Seis-Seiketsu-Shitsuke-and-SafetyApr 25 22:07
TechrightsBotTitle: "Seiri, Seiton, Seisō, Seiketsu, Shitsuke and Safety" | MetaFilter .::. Size~: 71.51 KBApr 25 22:07
schestowitzRead the commentsApr 25 22:07
DaemonFCschestowitz: I'm going to have to hold my nose in some of these state electionsApr 25 22:07
schestowitzhttp://gateskeepers.civiblog.org/blog/_archives/2010/4/18/4507664.htmlApr 25 22:07
TechrightsBotTitle: Gates Keepers :: Metafilter picks up the Gates Foundation China scandal story .::. Size~: 17.17 KBApr 25 22:08
DaemonFCI'll be voting in the Republican primary this yearApr 25 22:08
schestowitzDaemonFC: elections sucksApr 25 22:08
schestowitzAnd you have to register hereApr 25 22:08
DaemonFCI'd like to keep as many Teabaggers off their ticket as possibleApr 25 22:08
DaemonFConyl reason I'm doing itApr 25 22:08
schestowitzTeabaggers=funded by RepublicansApr 25 22:08
DaemonFCIndiana is weird, open primariesApr 25 22:08
schestowitzPR Watch exposed the connectionsApr 25 22:08
schestowitz'Grassroots' not, just astroturfApr 25 22:09
DaemonFCthe Teabagger for our local state Senate seat promises to introduce a bill to require drug tests of all people receiving food stamps or medicaidApr 25 22:09
DaemonFCas his "first priority"Apr 25 22:09
DaemonFCI guess the goal is to dump everyone that smoked a joint in the last 5 yearsApr 25 22:10
DaemonFC(hair test)Apr 25 22:10
DaemonFCthey'll waste more money with the expensive drug tests on everyone to throw out 5% of the people getting the benefits who have ever actually used somethingApr 25 22:11
DaemonFCand it's sure to cause problems and throw out people who never used anything illegal in their lifeApr 25 22:12
DaemonFCthere's lots of things that are perfectly legal that can cause a false positive for illegal drugsApr 25 22:12
DaemonFCmaybe you drug test a cancer patient who is on MarinolApr 25 22:12
DaemonFCthrow him off his food stamps for "marijuana" being detectedApr 25 22:12
DaemonFCit makes no senseApr 25 22:12
DaemonFCit's going to throw off people who have done nothing wrong, right and leftApr 25 22:13
DaemonFCit's an unconstitutional invasionApr 25 22:13
DaemonFCand it's damned expensive :PApr 25 22:14
DaemonFCit's why no state has every done this up to nowApr 25 22:14
DaemonFC*everApr 25 22:14
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DeadSuperHeroHello, gents.Apr 25 22:19
MinceRo haiApr 25 22:19
DeadSuperHeroHow goes things?Apr 25 22:21
DaemonFCit's been raining since Friday marningApr 25 22:22
DaemonFCwithout stopApr 25 22:22
DaemonFCand won't stop until around noon tomorrow :PApr 25 22:23
DeadSuperHeroSame here.Apr 25 22:23
DeadSuperHeroBoo.Apr 25 22:23
DaemonFC*morningApr 25 22:23
DaemonFCschestowitz: Why is Netflix using Solver Blight anyway?Apr 25 22:23
DaemonFCbribes or can it do things Flash can't?Apr 25 22:23
DaemonFC*SilverApr 25 22:23
DeadSuperHeroWell, admittedly Flash is pretty terrible. Maybe they just wanted to go with another option.Apr 25 22:24
DeadSuperHeroI dunno, the truth is probably somewhere between bribery and "trying something new"Apr 25 22:24
MinceRmaybe they thought "hey, it can't be worse than Trash!"Apr 25 22:24
MinceRand they were wrongApr 25 22:24
DeadSuperHeroYou win some, you lose some.Apr 25 22:25
DaemonFCSilverlight works with Opera nowApr 25 22:25
DeadSuperHeroI only ever rented DVDs directly when I was using their service.Apr 25 22:25
DeadSuperHeroYeah, works with Chrome as well.Apr 25 22:25
DeadSuperHeroAt least Moonlight does.Apr 25 22:26
DaemonFCbut you still have to Mask Opera as Firefox to make Netflix workApr 25 22:26
DeadSuperHeroMeh.Apr 25 22:26
DaemonFCelse it pops up a bogus error saying come back in IE or FirefoxApr 25 22:26
DaemonFCworks perfect in Opera once you change user agent to FirefoxApr 25 22:26
DeadSuperHeroI think there's more merit in promoting Creative Commons-based films from dirt poor studios.Apr 25 22:26
DeadSuperHeroRather than shelling out a couple bucks to big media producers.Apr 25 22:27
_GoblinMoonlight works in chrome?  Im surprised anyone bothered to find out.Apr 25 22:28
*DaemonFC is watching Mortal Kombat :PApr 25 22:29
_Goblinremind me, what sites of consequence need Silverlight/Moonlight?Apr 25 22:29
DaemonFCNetflixApr 25 22:29
_Goblindaemonfc: things must be bad...Apr 25 22:29
_GoblinlolApr 25 22:29
*MinceR is listening to: Dead Meat - Fight Yourself!Apr 25 22:30
_Goblindaemonfc: Mortal Kombat?...you have my pity.Apr 25 22:30
DaemonFCheheApr 25 22:31
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99uQWUZ9ynMApr 25 22:32
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- Mortal Kombat Theme (Test Your Might!) .::. Size~: 84.84 KBApr 25 22:32
DaemonFC:PApr 25 22:32
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pieLm-neuucApr 25 22:37
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- Mortal Kombat Sound track-scorpion theme .::. Size~: 102.12 KBApr 25 22:37
DaemonFCScorpion was always my favorite in the arcade gamesApr 25 22:37
DaemonFCGET OVER HERE!!!Apr 25 22:37
DaemonFC:PApr 25 22:37
DaemonFCuppercut uppercut uppercut, slam them into the groundApr 25 22:38
DaemonFCbackflipApr 25 22:38
DaemonFC:PApr 25 22:38
MinceRbuttonmash!Apr 25 22:38
DaemonFCuggghApr 25 22:38
*DaemonFC never did thatApr 25 22:38
DaemonFCI could play for hours on one quarterApr 25 22:38
DaemonFCthe arcade game let people walk up and put in a quarter to face you in a match B-)Apr 25 22:39
DaemonFCquarter eating arcade games :DApr 25 22:39
DaemonFCmemoriesApr 25 22:39
DeadSuperHeroIndeed.Apr 25 22:39
DeadSuperHeroI miss old-school arcades.Apr 25 22:40
DaemonFCTerminator 2 was the most quarter stealing arcade game everApr 25 22:40
DaemonFC:PApr 25 22:40
DeadSuperHeroI dunno, I was a huge fan of Galaga.Apr 25 22:40
DeadSuperHeroWe had a lot of classic game machines at this local arcade in my town.Apr 25 22:40
DeadSuperHeroShame it went under.Apr 25 22:40
DaemonFCDeadSuperHero:  I'd play two players at once sometimesApr 25 22:41
MinceRi could never get myself to waste money on arcade games when i knew i could play on my computer instead :>Apr 25 22:41
DaemonFCstick a quester in the other slot and now you have two pulse riflesApr 25 22:41
DeadSuperHeroDaemonFC: I always loved when you could get the double shipsApr 25 22:41
DaemonFCwith twice the grenadesApr 25 22:41
cubezzzthere still is one classic arcade in existance: Funspot in NHApr 25 22:44
DaemonFCDeadSuperHero: I liked that "VR" space combat thing they had for a whileApr 25 22:45
DaemonFCit was a tie in with Space: Above and Beyond" that never sold many unitsApr 25 22:45
schestowitzhttp://www.canada.com/entertainment/Rock+roll+charity+Singer+David+Cook+confronts+plight+Ethiopian+girls+Idol+Gives+Back/2925643/story.html "Bill and Melissa Gates"Apr 25 22:45
TechrightsBotTitle: Rock 'n' roll charity: Singer David Cook confronts plight of Ethiopiangirls for Idol Gives Back. .::. Size~: 89.53 KBApr 25 22:45
DaemonFCyou could fly one of the Hammerhead fightersApr 25 22:46
DeadSuperHeroDaemonFC: I'm shocked anyone remembers that show.Apr 25 22:46
DaemonFCthat was kind of neatApr 25 22:46
DeadSuperHeroI loved SAB so much.Apr 25 22:46
DeadSuperHeroWatched it every Sunday evening on Sci-Fi as a kid.Apr 25 22:46
cubezzzSAB?Apr 25 22:46
DeadSuperHeroSpace, Above, and Beyond.Apr 25 22:46
DeadSuperHeroI tend to have a soft spot for space epics.Apr 25 22:47
cubezzzhuh, I guess I missed that oneApr 25 22:47
DeadSuperHeroIt's not unlike Battlestar Galactica.Apr 25 22:48
cubezzzin my day it was "The Starlost" :)Apr 25 22:48
cubezzzno one remembers thatApr 25 22:48
DeadSuperHeroAh.Apr 25 22:49
DaemonFC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTfOpa8MA8Q&feature=relatedApr 25 22:49
DeadSuperHeroSeems to be a common effect, you fall in love with a show and no one knows anything about it.Apr 25 22:49
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- SA-43 Hammerhead, flying formation .::. Size~: 80.16 KBApr 25 22:49
DaemonFC:PApr 25 22:49
DeadSuperHeroAt least people knew Firefly.Apr 25 22:49
cubezzzok, how about Terrahawks? :)Apr 25 22:49
DeadSuperHero'fraid not.Apr 25 22:49
cubezzzI think we have a generation gap here :)Apr 25 22:50
satiperaterrahawks was funnyApr 25 22:50
DaemonFCFirefly was awesomeApr 25 22:50
DaemonFCone of those things I didn't pay attention to until they canceled itApr 25 22:50
DaemonFCthen watched all of them in a marathon and SerenityApr 25 22:50
DaemonFC:)Apr 25 22:50
cubezzzI even have some 50's stuff Apr 25 22:50
satiperaare you talking about the puppet terrahawks?Apr 25 22:50
DaemonFCThe reavers!Apr 25 22:51
cubezzzyeahApr 25 22:51
cubezzzGerry Anderson :)Apr 25 22:51
DaemonFC:DApr 25 22:51
satiperayea i remember thatApr 25 22:51
satiperayesApr 25 22:51
DaemonFC"If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins into their clothing. And if we're very, very lucky, they'll do it in that order."Apr 25 22:51
cubezzzGoblin_ is pretty big into SFApr 25 22:51
DaemonFC:DApr 25 22:52
DeadSuperHeroGotta love Joss WhendonApr 25 22:52
cubezzzDeadSuperHero, if you can, watch some StarlostApr 25 22:52
cubezzzit's pretty trippyApr 25 22:52
DeadSuperHeroI'd probably enjoy it then.Apr 25 22:52
DaemonFCthere was AndromedaApr 25 22:52
DaemonFC:)Apr 25 22:52
cubezzzStarlost had the best computersApr 25 22:53
DaemonFCKevin Sorbo evenApr 25 22:53
DaemonFCI liked that staff weapon that he hadApr 25 22:53
DaemonFChad built in laser blasters on both endsApr 25 22:53
DaemonFC:PApr 25 22:53
cubezzzAndromeda was OKApr 25 22:53
DaemonFCEarth: Final Conflict was the suckApr 25 22:54
DaemonFC90s Outer Limits was mehApr 25 22:54
cubezzzI probably watched TV the most in the 70'sApr 25 22:54
cubezzzno PCs back thenApr 25 22:55
DaemonFCI want to go back in time to the 90sApr 25 22:55
DaemonFCI really doApr 25 22:55
cubezzzexcept in the late 70's we had the 8K Commodore PET :)Apr 25 22:55
DeadSuperHeroSigh.Apr 25 22:56
cubezzzlet's face it, the 90's were boringApr 25 22:56
DeadSuperHeroDays I wish I had grown up in.Apr 25 22:56
DeadSuperHeroIn some ways, yes.Apr 25 22:56
cubezzzVanilla Ice? :)Apr 25 22:56
cubezzzok, let's not think about that Apr 25 22:58
DeadSuperHeroI'm a little slow because I'm filling out job applications.Apr 25 22:59
DeadSuperHero:PApr 25 22:59
DeadSuperHeroNot a whole lot of places hiring right now unfortunately.Apr 25 23:00
_Goblincubezzz: 90's boring? A1200....Summerslam at Wembly....far from boring!Apr 25 23:01
DaemonFC_Goblin: Those were FIVE HUNDRED DOLLAR SUNGLASSES, ASSHOLE!"Apr 25 23:01
DaemonFCheheheApr 25 23:01
_GoblinHeres one for you DaeomonFC....Apr 25 23:02
cubezzzthe A1200 was goodApr 25 23:02
cubezzzI ordered one recently :)Apr 25 23:02
_Goblin"If sexual attractions a virus, take me to the hospital Im a terminal case".....I want show and episode.....Apr 25 23:03
_Goblinand no google daemonfcApr 25 23:03
DaemonFCthat was the Red Dwarf episode with the holovirusApr 25 23:03
_Goblin50%Apr 25 23:03
_GoblinQuarantineApr 25 23:03
_Goblinwas the episodeApr 25 23:03
DaemonFCthe one that infected Rimmer and brought about the red checkered dressApr 25 23:03
DaemonFCand Mr. FlibbleApr 25 23:03
_Goblin"theyve been naughty boys havent they mr Flibble"Apr 25 23:04
DaemonFC"You're in quarantine...but don't worry...we're here to entertain you!"Apr 25 23:04
DaemonFCUncle Arnie fries them alive with his hex visionApr 25 23:04
DaemonFC:DApr 25 23:04
_Goblinsprout soup, followed for sprout salad.....and for desert sprout crumbleApr 25 23:04
DeadSuperHeroI've heard good things about Red DwarfApr 25 23:04
DaemonFCtwo hours, W...O...O...Apr 25 23:04
_Goblinwho's going to clean up the mess?Apr 25 23:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] At bed time tonight, Sophie (6) said "I think I'm going to keep my door shut now". She doesn't need the landing light on anymore.Growing up.Apr 25 23:04
DeadSuperHeroNever seen it thoughApr 25 23:04
DaemonFCWhat's W O O?Apr 25 23:04
DaemonFCWithApr 25 23:04
DaemonFCOut Apr 25 23:04
DaemonFCOxygenApr 25 23:04
DaemonFC:DApr 25 23:04
_Goblinthat'll teach you to be bread basketsApr 25 23:05
DaemonFC:DApr 25 23:05
_GoblinSo let me get this straight, you want to fly on a magic carpet to see the King of the potatoe people and beg for your freedom? and youre telling me your completely sane?Apr 25 23:06
DaemonFCniceApr 25 23:06
DaemonFC_Goblin: I watched Jarhead last nightApr 25 23:06
_Goblinnever seen itApr 25 23:06
DaemonFCthat could have been a Full Metal Jacket sequelApr 25 23:06
_Goblincan't watch those type of movies.Apr 25 23:06
DaemonFC1991 Gulf WarApr 25 23:07
DaemonFCthe Marines walking around in the desert, getting experimental pills for chemical weapon exposureApr 25 23:07
DaemonFCwalking through hell created by burning oilfieldsApr 25 23:07
DaemonFCand never got to kill anyone cause the Air Force was blowing the shit out of everything before they got thereApr 25 23:08
DaemonFCthe only people of theirs that died was when the Air Force A-10s turned around and fired on the Marines thinking they were IraqisApr 25 23:08
DaemonFC"being friendly fucked"Apr 25 23:08
DaemonFCwas the termApr 25 23:08
DaemonFC:PApr 25 23:08
MinceRwhat a very usian way to dieApr 25 23:08
DaemonFCwell, I was kind of wondering, why all the boots were on the groundApr 25 23:09
DaemonFCif we were just dropping bombs on everythingApr 25 23:09
_Goblinyou can't win a campaign with merely airsupport.Apr 25 23:10
_Goblinyou need boots on the ground to secure and hold.Apr 25 23:11
MinceRyou could drop the boots from planesApr 25 23:11
MinceRgnApr 25 23:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Please help fill out RW's papal visit page http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Papal_visit_to_the_UK_2010Apr 25 23:24
TechrightsBotTitle: Papal visit to the UK 2010 - RationalWiki .::. Size~: 34.23 KBApr 25 23:24
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cubezzzcomputers seem to need more and more wattage as time goes onApr 25 23:50
cubezzz"But the old ISA had been phased out since 1993~1994"Apr 25 23:52
cubezzznot true, I seen old ISA on motherboards up until 1998Apr 25 23:52
cubezzzwhat do I do if I want -5V?Apr 25 23:53
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cubezzzpower efficiency is eclipsed by speed improvmentsApr 25 23:55
cubezzzweird, on one web page I can clipboard, another I can'tApr 25 23:58
cubezzzevidently I need a "negavite linear regulator"Apr 25 23:58
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