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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] I am finding myself leaning on Ubuntu One more and more, it is so nice for syncing my music, notes, contacts, and files between my laptops. | May 01 00:15 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft #Patent Tax on #Linux -powered Televisions http://ur1.ca/y6fi #swpats #android #google #samsung #htc | May 01 00:19 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Does #Android ’s Chief Compare Steve Jobs to North Korea’s Dead Leader (Kim Il-sung)? http://ur1.ca/y6k2 #linux #apple | May 01 00:40 | |
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| schestowitz | That's just insulting to Koreans | May 01 00:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Both boys attending opening of Wonderland. Wish we had things like that when I was a kid. | May 01 00:42 | |
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| schestowitz | Yikes: http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1108748 | May 01 00:57 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Acacia ’s Case Against #GNU #Linux is Dead http://ur1.ca/y6qh thanks, @stevejberry #swpat #troll #microsoft #verdict | May 01 01:10 | |
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| schestowitz | gn | May 01 01:11 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@MissSugarLipz #whatwouldyoudo if your computer was super slow at work // tell them they cant afford #windows viruses any more, & get #Mac | May 01 01:59 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Jobs: 'patent pool is being assembled to go after #Theora &other open source codecs' Steve u can stop using #Microsoft's liar's playbook now | May 01 02:15 | |
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| DaemonFC | hmm, I have health insurance again in about 2 hours | May 01 03:11 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] A computer is the ultimate idiot. | May 01 03:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@ttcupdates #chaos theory blamed 4 #ttc's scheduling issues //that's actually plausible. See also research into turbulent flow&traffic jams | May 01 03:45 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @Org9 #Harper has spent more on public-opinion rsrch than any #government in #Canada history //very bad sign; see also: John Howard | May 01 03:47 | |
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| cubezzz | quiet tonight | May 01 04:37 |
| cubezzz | guess everyone's out partying :) | May 01 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: It's only 37 minutes until I have health insurance again | May 01 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | boogie oogie oogie :P | May 01 04:38 |
| cubezzz | I haven't been to a doctor in a long time | May 01 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | have to make sure nothing bad happens to me for 36 more minutes | May 01 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | lock myself in a padded room and position a defense cannon on the roof to destroy stray inbound space objects | May 01 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | let the fragments hopefully hit someone that is insured | May 01 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 01 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: I found out a fun fact today | May 01 04:42 |
| cubezzz | oh? | May 01 04:42 |
| DaemonFC | Medicare and Medicaid don't cover hospital bills due to car accident regardless who was at fault | May 01 04:42 |
| DaemonFC | if you didn't have car insurance that covered that situation, you're screwed :D | May 01 04:43 |
| cubezzz | you have to watch out for those loopholes | May 01 04:43 |
| cubezzz | well I don't drive, waste of money | May 01 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I was trying to see if I could pull a fast one and cut my car insurance coverage a bit more | May 01 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | let Medicare pick it all up | May 01 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | guess not | May 01 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | or I could just put down that I was hit by space debris | May 01 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 01 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | that space debris will get you man | May 01 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | the atmosphere just ain't what it used to be | May 01 04:45 |
| DaemonFC | global warming you know | May 01 04:45 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 01 04:45 |
| cubezzz | it was pretty warm today | May 01 04:45 |
| cubezzz | over 20C | May 01 04:45 |
| DaemonFC | consult google out of curiosity or just assume that 20C is warm | May 01 04:45 |
| DaemonFC | yes, that is warm I suppose :D | May 01 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | to my knowledge | May 01 04:46 |
| cubezzz | pretty warm for April anyway | May 01 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | 20 degrees Celsius = 68 degrees Fahrenheit | May 01 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | heh | May 01 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | 68 is not bad | May 01 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | it's usually where I keep my air conditioner | May 01 04:47 |
| cubezzz | probably hit 22C at one point | May 01 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | assuming that's in the mid 70s then | May 01 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | 71.6 anyway | May 01 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 01 04:47 |
| cubezzz | 20C = 68F yeah | May 01 04:47 |
| cubezzz | just use the units command :) | May 01 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | I hate the metric system | May 01 04:48 |
| cubezzz | e.g. You have: tempC(20) | May 01 04:48 |
| DaemonFC | and it may not be a bad system, it's just not the one I think in | May 01 04:48 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 01 04:48 |
| cubezzz | You want: tempF | May 01 04:48 |
| cubezzz | easy | May 01 04:48 |
| cubezzz | well 20C is warm (nice) 0C is freezing | May 01 04:48 |
| cubezzz | simple | May 01 04:48 |
| DaemonFC | 100 is where water boils, right? | May 01 04:48 |
| cubezzz | yes | May 01 04:48 |
| DaemonFC | so 100C would be 212 F | May 01 04:49 |
| DaemonFC | that gives me a reference I guess | May 01 04:49 |
| cubezzz | yes, you _can_ ..... learn the metric system :) | May 01 04:49 |
| DaemonFC | water freezes at 32 F | May 01 04:49 |
| DaemonFC | normal human body temperature is 98.6 | May 01 04:49 |
| DaemonFC | ish | May 01 04:50 |
| cubezzz | 37C | May 01 04:50 |
| cubezzz | ok, now how many litres in a gallon? | May 01 04:50 |
| DaemonFC | yes I could learn it | May 01 04:50 |
| DaemonFC | but why? | May 01 04:50 |
| DaemonFC | it would serve no purpose in daily life here | May 01 04:50 |
| cubezzz | well most of the world uses it | May 01 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | the only thing sold in liters is soda | May 01 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 01 04:51 |
| cubezzz | interesting | May 01 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | well, sometimes | May 01 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | there's the 2 liter bottle | May 01 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | the 1 liter bottle | May 01 04:51 |
| cubezzz | so you never see metric aside from pop bottles? | May 01 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | all other bottle sizes are in ounces | May 01 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | nope | May 01 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | and only on the big pop bottles | May 01 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | once you get past the 32 ounce ones | May 01 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 01 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Some food is labeled in metric units, but those are secondary | May 01 04:53 |
| DaemonFC | like off in small print in parentheses | May 01 04:53 |
| cubezzz | ok how many furlongs in a mile? | May 01 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | then they tell you how much you are buying in pounds | May 01 04:54 |
| cubezzz | you use imperial units so.... :) | May 01 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | but then divide servings into grams | May 01 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | it's fun | May 01 04:54 |
| cubezzz | many pills use metric | May 01 04:55 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Actually, US Customary Units deviate from the "imperial units" | May 01 04:55 |
| cubezzz | er, maybe pills ue metric | May 01 04:55 |
| DaemonFC | not much, just enough to piss you off that the units are called the same thing | May 01 04:55 |
| cubezzz | time for a new keyboard I think | May 01 04:55 |
| cubezzz | why do they deviate? | May 01 04:55 |
| DaemonFC | good question | May 01 04:55 |
| cubezzz | ah I see | May 01 04:56 |
| cubezzz | because they hated the British, and had to do things "their way" :) | May 01 04:56 |
| DaemonFC | good enough reason to do anything I say | May 01 04:57 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 01 04:57 |
| cubezzz | ok, that's an even better reason to use the metric system | May 01 04:57 |
| cubezzz | far less confusing | May 01 04:57 |
| cubezzz | "The imperial gallon (4.54609 litres (L)) is 20% larger than the United States liquid gallon (3.785411784 L)." | May 01 04:58 |
| cubezzz | that's a big difference | May 01 04:58 |
| DaemonFC | yes except that you have hundreds of millions of people that never learned the metric system and have not really ever been exposed to it | May 01 04:58 |
| DaemonFC | it would take years of transition | May 01 04:58 |
| cubezzz | well Canada uses the Imperial system too you know :) | May 01 04:58 |
| cubezzz | used to | May 01 04:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Good morning Netlanders! New issue of gratis #BSD Magazine (5/2010) [PDF] available: http://tinyurl.com/34tuegx | May 01 04:58 | |
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| cubezzz | I learned the imperial system when I was younger actually | May 01 04:59 |
| DaemonFC | weather reports still have Fahrenheit degrees too? | May 01 04:59 |
| cubezzz | no | May 01 04:59 |
| cubezzz | centigrade | May 01 04:59 |
| cubezzz | or Celsius :) | May 01 05:00 |
| DaemonFC | it's going to be 80 tomorrow | May 01 05:00 |
| DaemonFC | and raining | May 01 05:00 |
| DaemonFC | iccck | May 01 05:00 |
| cubezzz | it's old too | May 01 05:00 |
| cubezzz | from 1744 | May 01 05:00 |
| cubezzz | there's no reason why the US couldn't have used it | May 01 05:00 |
| cubezzz | but North American in general isn't all that progressive | May 01 05:01 |
| cubezzz | most businesses still use Windows | May 01 05:01 |
| DaemonFC | well, probably the deviation can be explained by the fact that the imperial system pre-dates international standards | May 01 05:01 |
| DaemonFC | and everyone using it ended up modifying it out of sync and to their liking | May 01 05:02 |
| cubezzz | yes, and it went through a few revisions too | May 01 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | well, it's just like how US English broke off | May 01 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | evolved separately | May 01 05:02 |
| cubezzz | blame this guy-> "Swedish astronomer Anders Celsius (1701–1744)" | May 01 05:03 |
| DaemonFC | hundreds of years of poor communications, regional dialects, accents | May 01 05:03 |
| DaemonFC | it could not have remained entirely the same language | May 01 05:03 |
| DaemonFC | or when we started naming things that the British had never seen before | May 01 05:03 |
| DaemonFC | and borrowing words from the indigenous population | May 01 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | or from Spanish and French | May 01 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 01 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | there are hundreds of factors at play here | May 01 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | I suppose the same thing happened to units of measurement | May 01 05:05 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: There's no real reason to use the metric system | May 01 05:05 |
| DaemonFC | unless you have to | May 01 05:06 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Interesting thing is that even though no roads are labeled in kilometers, and no speed limits are in kilometers per hour, most cars have a secondary speedometer reading for kilometers per hour | May 01 05:07 |
| DaemonFC | but the odometers are only in miles | May 01 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | it's for if I drove to Canada or something I guess | May 01 05:08 |
| cubezzz | your scientists use the metric system | May 01 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | it's useless display space on any US road | May 01 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 01 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | mostly | May 01 05:08 |
| Ender2070 | metric is the future | May 01 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | no it's not | May 01 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | at least not here | May 01 05:09 |
| Ender2070 | yeah it is | May 01 05:09 |
| Ender2070 | eventually it will be | May 01 05:09 |
| cubezzz | the whole world is already using it | May 01 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | metric system will probably never take hold here | May 01 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | and certainly not anytime soon | May 01 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | they were going on and on in the 90s about how we'd all be using it by now | May 01 05:09 |
| Ender2070 | eventually you guys will get pissed at having to convert everything to imperial | May 01 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | still aren't | May 01 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | still not going that direction | May 01 05:09 |
| cubezzz | China uses it :) | May 01 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | good for them | May 01 05:10 |
| cubezzz | so guess what's going to happen | May 01 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | I see no signs of it heading that way | May 01 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | at any level of government | May 01 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | it's not even an issue that's talked about anymore | May 01 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | it's something of a running joke | May 01 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | "Oh yeah, we all have freaking robot servants and we use the metric system" | May 01 05:11 |
| DaemonFC | you know, like making fun of all the old propaganda | May 01 05:11 |
| DaemonFC | world of the future crap | May 01 05:11 |
| cubezzz | well we definitely should have electric cars... at least | May 01 05:12 |
| cubezzz | and they are here finally | May 01 05:12 |
| cubezzz | The Nissan Leaf | May 01 05:14 |
| cubezzz | GM really botched that up | May 01 05:14 |
| DaemonFC | GM is fucking everything up | May 01 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | even worse than before the government owned them and mandated stupid unmarketable shit | May 01 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | like the Chevy Volt | May 01 05:15 |
| cubezzz | is that available to buy? | May 01 05:16 |
| cubezzz | ah, it's a hybrid though | May 01 05:16 |
| cubezzz | well figures the Japanese will be first | May 01 05:18 |
| Ender2070 | sometimes you're just clueless daemonfc | May 01 05:18 |
| cubezzz | for the mass market | May 01 05:18 |
| cubezzz | I didn't expect us to be like "The Jetsons" but.... | May 01 05:18 |
| cubezzz | we should be further along than we are! | May 01 05:19 |
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| cubezzz | Space 1999 was totally lying to us :) | May 01 05:20 |
| cubezzz | we'll be lucky to get Space 2099 | May 01 05:20 |
| Eruaran | hi guys | May 01 05:21 |
| cubezzz | hey | May 01 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | the Volt is overpriced and obviously too much of a pain in the ass to try to maintain or use | May 01 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | a range of 40 miles might get you around town, but you still need a gas engine to do all the real work past that | May 01 05:21 |
| cubezzz | 32 grand for the Nissan Leaf | May 01 05:22 |
| cubezzz | DaemonFC, the Leaf has a range of 100 miles | May 01 05:22 |
| cubezzz | that's 160 kilometres :) | May 01 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | I could get from here to the center of Fort Wayne, and then about 1/4th the way back | May 01 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | then I would have to switch on the gasoline engine | May 01 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | and then there are two systems that can fail | May 01 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | and a battery that isn't going to last more than a year or two | May 01 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | and will cost about $1,500 or more to replace when it won't hold a charge anymore | May 01 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 01 05:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Delhi FOSS-Volunteer get ready, Soon we be on live telecast per week to teach FOSS on TV - #foss #delhi {stop us if you can} | May 01 05:23 | |
| DaemonFC | and the sticker price of the car, if the Prius tells us anything, will be $40,000-$50,000 | May 01 05:23 |
| cubezzz | you can lease the Leaf for USD349 a month | May 01 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | well out of the range of any normal family | May 01 05:24 |
| cubezzz | 32 grand... | May 01 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | and it's cheaper to just buy a gasoline car, maintain the gasoline car, and drive the gasoline car | May 01 05:24 |
| cubezzz | expensive yes | May 01 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | hybrid is just a gimmick | May 01 05:24 |
| cubezzz | yeah but I'm not even suggesting hybrid | May 01 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | until they get the range up and the price way down, fuck it | May 01 05:24 |
| cubezzz | plus there's a 5 thousand dollar rebate | May 01 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | I don't want a hybrid anything | May 01 05:25 |
| cubezzz | $27,000 | May 01 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | I want something that has a single fuel source and is priced on par with other vehicles | May 01 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | hybrids don't do either | May 01 05:25 |
| cubezzz | you did buy a hybrid though... or didn't you? | May 01 05:26 |
| cubezzz | a bike hybrid? | May 01 05:26 |
| cubezzz | gas and human powered | May 01 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | total cost of ownership of a hybrid is going to sting you worse than the sticker price | May 01 05:26 |
| cubezzz | er, electric I mean | May 01 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | that's different | May 01 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | it only has one motor | May 01 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | it only works with electric power | May 01 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | and the me pedaling it part doesn't cost $3 a gallon and add another expensive system that will fail | May 01 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | and besides, this is a bike, not a car :) | May 01 05:27 |
| cubezzz | well you might want a car later | May 01 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | have one actually | May 01 05:27 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] It is raining for the first time in #chennai . *dancing* :D | May 01 05:27 | |
| DaemonFC | I managed to find a good mechanic that works cheap | May 01 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | and my car runs again and makes no bizarre noises | May 01 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 01 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | and I paid about 1/3rd what I would have at most shops | May 01 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | glad I let it sit there | May 01 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | it's really like I got the car fixed at market rates and got a free electric bicycle too | May 01 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | well worth letting it sit there for a month | May 01 05:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Our LUG-IITD facebook page is looking good - http://www.facebook.com/pages/LUGIITD/111975198837339 #facebook #foss | May 01 05:29 | |
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| DaemonFC | shops usually try to squeeze an inch in on you here and there until the price is way beyond what you agreed to | May 01 05:30 |
| DaemonFC | $75 an hour labor, 50% markup over retail on parts | May 01 05:30 |
| DaemonFC | "shop fees" | May 01 05:30 |
| DaemonFC | that kind of stuff | May 01 05:30 |
| DaemonFC | if you can jsut buy the parts yourself and pay a mechanic to slap them on, it's a lot better :P | May 01 05:30 |
| cubezzz | it's cool to have a car drive by with very little noise | May 01 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | well, the tensioner was going out and so was the idler pulley | May 01 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | on top of the dying water pump with failing bearings | May 01 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 01 05:31 |
| cubezzz | zero emissions... | May 01 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | that produced some noises :P | May 01 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | sounded like a blood curdling scream with coolant being thrown around all over the place | May 01 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 01 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | glad I got it parked and shut down before the engine was damaged | May 01 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | or the radiator.... | May 01 05:33 |
| DaemonFC | or anything else | May 01 05:33 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Want to talk environmentally friendly, how's this..........? | May 01 05:37 |
| DaemonFC | When it was towed in, it had a quarter gallon of coolant in it | May 01 05:37 |
| DaemonFC | it holds three | May 01 05:37 |
| DaemonFC | the rest ended up on the road somewhere or underneath where the car sat for the month | May 01 05:38 |
| DaemonFC | I know because there's a huge spot about 3 feet in diameter and at least 2 feet deep under where my car set where all the weeds turned brown and died | May 01 05:39 |
| DaemonFC | and the soil is moist and smells like coolant | May 01 05:39 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 01 05:39 |
| cubezzz | that's why I don't drive | May 01 05:40 |
| cubezzz | I'll grab a cab if necessary or bus | May 01 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | that green coolant is some nasty shit | May 01 05:41 |
| cubezzz | I'm sure | May 01 05:41 |
| DaemonFC | leeches into the ground water even | May 01 05:41 |
| DaemonFC | quite deadly | May 01 05:41 |
| DaemonFC | animals like to drink it cause it smells sweet to them | May 01 05:42 |
| DaemonFC | then their stomach ruptures and they die | May 01 05:42 |
| DaemonFC | the GM Dexcool stuff, the orange stuff, is harmless | May 01 05:42 |
| DaemonFC | in fact it's also a food additive :D | May 01 05:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Cool - Open Letter to Steve Jobs - http://blogs.fsfe.org/hugo/2010/04/open-letter-to-steve-jobs/ | May 01 05:46 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Folks celebrating may day amidst rain with banners and slogans :D - cool | May 01 05:57 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] God, Golem, #UID: Singularity As An Object In The Mirror http://bit.ly/9b2adk | May 01 06:27 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] FSF responds to Jobs's "Thoughts on Flash" http://tinyurl.com/376d3yv #fsf #foss #flash | May 01 06:33 | |
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| Omar87 | LOL! | May 01 06:45 |
| Omar87 | It seems Wikitionary decided to block my IP address due to: Vandalism. | May 01 06:46 |
| Omar87 | But falsifying a verse in the Bible isn't considered Vandalism at all... Typical hypocrisy. | May 01 06:48 |
| Eruaran | ? | May 01 06:51 |
| Eruaran | I'm not sure I follow | May 01 06:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] The word "מחמד" in Song Of Songs chap. 5 verse 16 stands for "Muhammad" NOT "Altogether lovely" And both (cont) http://tl.gd/13l23p | May 01 06:54 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Twitlonger: The word "מחמד" in Song Of Songs chap. 5 verse 16 stands for "Muhammad" NOT .::. Size~: 7.55 KB | May 01 06:54 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, Go to freetranslation.com, choose translation from Hebrew to English, and then type the word מחמד in the square to left, and see what you'll get | May 01 06:56 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, try the same thing on Lingoworld.com. and see what you'll get. | May 01 06:59 |
| Eruaran | ah that old chestnut | May 01 07:00 |
| Eruaran | sigh | May 01 07:00 |
| Omar87 | heh? :D | May 01 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | lmao | May 01 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | at least it's funny vandalism | May 01 07:00 |
| Eruaran | You can't translate hebrew words out of context and in isolation from the verse | May 01 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | not as funny as putting a cartoon of your prophet in | May 01 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 01 07:01 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, All rabbis will agree that the word is "Muhammad" and not "All together lovely". | May 01 07:01 |
| Eruaran | Jewish Rabbi's? | May 01 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.targetofopportunity.com/muhammed_cartoon.jpg | May 01 07:02 |
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| Eruaran | Have you spoken to one lately? | May 01 07:02 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, they know it. And the pronounce it correctly. | May 01 07:02 |
| Omar87 | they* | May 01 07:02 |
| Eruaran | Muslims are funny... | May 01 07:02 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, Atheists are ludicrous. | May 01 07:03 |
| Omar87 | And delusional. | May 01 07:03 |
| Eruaran | Speaking of delusional | May 01 07:05 |
| Omar87 | DaemonFC, these stupid cartoon mean a hole huge massive bunch of "Nothing" to me. I go by rational, logical and ,above all, polite debate. | May 01 07:06 |
| Omar87 | cartoons* | May 01 07:06 |
| Eruaran | Translating anything at all in Song Of Solomon 5:16 as "Muhammad" is completely nonsensical within the context of the passage. | May 01 07:06 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, it is. | May 01 07:06 |
| DaemonFC | Omar87: So you deny the truth that there is no true god? | May 01 07:07 |
| DaemonFC | I won't kill you because there's no little voice called "god" telling me to | May 01 07:07 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, the Bible is supposed to be a "Promise". That's what the Hebrew word "Bible" means. | May 01 07:07 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 01 07:07 |
| Omar87 | DaemonFC, See? You're neither rational, nor logical nor even polite. That's why Atheists are ludicrous. | May 01 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | Omar87: Is that like, saying there's a warranty against the Bible being bullshit with unfulfilled miracles, idiotic fables that are impossible, and stoking hatred in all simple minded morons? | May 01 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | cause I want to know if they can replace it with something that's not utter bullshit or give humanity a refund :) | May 01 07:09 |
| DaemonFC | either way is good for me | May 01 07:09 |
| Omar87 | DaemonFC, So, you do believe that a single, tiny, completely in animate cell managed to create an entire humanity out of nothing whatsoever? Isn't that absurd? | May 01 07:09 |
| Omar87 | DaemonFC, the Bible has been falsified. | May 01 07:09 |
| DaemonFC | just because I don't know the specifics doesn't mean I fill in gaps with your bogeyman god | May 01 07:09 |
| Eruaran | I don't care what your beliefs are, translating that verse with "Muhammad" is just stupid. | May 01 07:09 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, well. Ask a Rabbi to read the verse for you. Then, we shall see if it was stupid. | May 01 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | Omar87: It clearly translates to "OMG PinK PoNiEs!!!111" | May 01 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | What's wrong with you? :P | May 01 07:11 |
| Omar87 | DaemonFC, :) | May 01 07:12 |
| Eruaran | Sorry, a Jewish Rabbi would laugh at your "translation". | May 01 07:12 |
| Omar87 | DaemonFC, you're funny, ya know that? | May 01 07:12 |
| cubezzz | the number of things we don't know is infinite :) | May 01 07:12 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, I don't think so. | May 01 07:12 |
| Eruaran | You don't even need to be able to read Hebrew to see that such a translation is completely nonsensical within the context of the passage. | May 01 07:12 |
| Eruaran | Its common sense. | May 01 07:12 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, Jewish Rabbis admit completely that they are the ones who killed (actually, attempted to kill) Jesus. | May 01 07:13 |
| cubezzz | well at least we all hate Microsoft :) | May 01 07:13 |
| cubezzz | not completely sure about DaemonFC though :) | May 01 07:13 |
| Omar87 | cubezzz, lol. You're right about that. :) | May 01 07:13 |
| Eruaran | Furthermore, Muslims condemn Song Of Soloman as an immorral book. So why are you trying to twist a verse from this book as if that's going to prove something? | May 01 07:13 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, I'm not trying to twists. I'm trying to bring it back to its original status. | May 01 07:14 |
| Eruaran | IF it's so immorral and ungodly, what does it prove if you find "muhammad" in there? Something to do with marrying little girls? | May 01 07:14 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, it was mistranslated. | May 01 07:14 |
| Eruaran | come on | May 01 07:14 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, It is. | May 01 07:15 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, actually the Bible's full of mistranslated text. | May 01 07:15 |
| Eruaran | You can choose words in any language who'se meanings and proper renderings when translated will change depending on their context | May 01 07:15 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, do you know how many versions of the Bible are there? Around 27. | May 01 07:15 |
| Eruaran | You're talking about English translations right? | May 01 07:16 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, Guess what? None of the comes anywhere near the other. | May 01 07:16 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, yes. As well as Arabic. | May 01 07:16 |
| Eruaran | As far as English translations go, they're all pretty much the same. | May 01 07:16 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, maybe.. But I slightly doubt it. | May 01 07:17 |
| Eruaran | Different translations or slightly different renderings do not equate to different "versions" to be depicted as somehow wildly different. | May 01 07:17 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, However, I'm not talking about the 27 translations. I'm talking about 27 completely different Bibles. | May 01 07:18 |
| Eruaran | You can read The Lord Of The Rings translated into German in different renderings... | May 01 07:18 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, I agree. | May 01 07:18 |
| Eruaran | But you don't go around saying they're "completely different" Lord Of The Rings | May 01 07:19 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, but what I saying is: King Jame's bible differs completely from Paul's, and from John's.. etc. | May 01 07:19 |
| Eruaran | Paul and John didn't write a Bible | May 01 07:19 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, not the translations. But the Bibles themselves. | May 01 07:20 |
| Eruaran | They were apostles | May 01 07:20 |
| Eruaran | And the King James Bible is 1600's English | May 01 07:20 |
| Eruaran | The English language itself has changed | May 01 07:20 |
| Omar87 | Sorry, that was a mistake. | May 01 07:20 |
| Omar87 | I'm talking about King James vs. New International Version vs. New Revised Standard Version .. etc. | May 01 07:22 |
| Eruaran | lol | May 01 07:22 |
| Eruaran | Modern English versus English from the middle ages... | May 01 07:22 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran: Plus, if the Bible what the word of God, who gave these people the right to revise it? | May 01 07:22 |
| Eruaran | they're translations... | May 01 07:22 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, not really. | May 01 07:23 |
| Eruaran | What's wrong with revising a translation? | May 01 07:23 |
| Eruaran | Especially when the language you use has changed markedly in 400 years? | May 01 07:23 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, some chapters were edited, some others were added, and some were also removed. | May 01 07:23 |
| Eruaran | sigh | May 01 07:24 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, We never needed to revise the language of the Quran. Not even one single time. | May 01 07:24 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, yet the Quran remained intact, and recited by billions of people around the planet as-is. | May 01 07:25 |
| Omar87 | For the past 1400 years. If I may add. | May 01 07:25 |
| Eruaran | lol there are several english versions and revisions of the Quran | May 01 07:25 |
| DaemonFC | hate is too horrible to hang onto | May 01 07:25 |
| DaemonFC | best to get it out of your system right away | May 01 07:25 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, those are not translations of the Quran. | May 01 07:25 |
| Eruaran | And early versions of the Quran were destroyed | May 01 07:25 |
| DaemonFC | rightly so | May 01 07:25 |
| DaemonFC | they missed one though | May 01 07:26 |
| Eruaran | lol DaemonFC | May 01 07:26 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, they are translations of its "Meanings". That's big difference. | May 01 07:26 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, No they were not. | May 01 07:26 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, who told you they were? | May 01 07:26 |
| DaemonFC | the ones who believe in hell are the ones who better damned well hope there isn't one | May 01 07:27 |
| Eruaran | If you want to debate textual criticism you picked the wrong person | May 01 07:27 |
| DaemonFC | or so I've noticed | May 01 07:27 |
| Omar87 | DaemonFC, Keep smoking pal. Keep smoking. | May 01 07:27 |
| Eruaran | If you want to verify the accuracy and faithfulness of Bible translations there are thousands of manuscripts available for cross reference covering a wide geography and and amost two millenia | May 01 07:28 |
| Eruaran | there's no conspiracy dude | May 01 07:28 |
| Eruaran | alot of them are on public display | May 01 07:28 |
| Omar87 | DaemonFC, if you want to start a rational debate. I'll talk to you. Other than that, don't stop smoking. | May 01 07:28 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, I know. | May 01 07:28 |
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| Omar87 | Eruaran, in fact, so many Christians reverted to Islam after taking a look at 'em. Some of there people include priests and preachers (E.g: Ruba Qawar, Yusuf Estes, and Abdul-Raheem Green) | May 01 07:30 |
| DaemonFC | there's no way to prove anything in the Bible happened | May 01 07:30 |
| DaemonFC | because there is no supporting evidence | May 01 07:30 |
| Omar87 | DaemonFC, okay. I'm talking about the Bible. | May 01 07:30 |
| DaemonFC | I could make the Neverending Story my bible | May 01 07:31 |
| DaemonFC | there's as much proof that all that happened | May 01 07:31 |
| Eruaran | I'd love to debate further but I'm at work | May 01 07:31 |
| Omar87 | I'm talking about creation in general. So, there's no proof that the abiogenesis happened either. In fact, it has been proven to be a typical scientific joke | May 01 07:31 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, I see. Best wishes. :) | May 01 07:32 |
| cubezzz | even Carl Sagan was agnostic, not an athestist | May 01 07:36 |
| cubezzz | he deliberately said he didn't have enough information to be sure either way | May 01 07:36 |
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| cubezzz | one time I saw a UFO... of course no one believes me :) | May 01 07:38 |
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| cubezzz | one guy I met claims to be touched by a ghost, several people I know saw UFOs | May 01 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: The overwhelming majority of the evidence says that...... | May 01 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | that's how people should judge things | May 01 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | not "I want to believe that this is so" | May 01 07:39 |
| cubezzz | there's tons of stuff we don't know about | May 01 07:39 |
| cubezzz | I'm not even talking about belief | May 01 07:39 |
| cubezzz | anyways | May 01 07:39 |
| cubezzz | I saw two bright orange ovals shoot across the sky | May 01 07:40 |
| cubezzz | it was really strange | May 01 07:40 |
| cubezzz | weird because if it was bowl lightning why would there be two? | May 01 07:41 |
| cubezzz | in all the vastness of space, like 40 billion light years "there is nothing except us" seemed extremely unlikely | May 01 07:43 |
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| cubezzz | ok, now before you say pfffft or something... | May 01 07:44 |
| cubezzz | I met this old guy he's about 75 or so | May 01 07:44 |
| cubezzz | he told me about 65 years ago, he saw a brownish cigar shaped object cross the sky in about 2 seconds | May 01 07:45 |
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| cubezzz | ok, so about 2 years ago I found this on the net: | May 01 07:46 |
| cubezzz | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8RLOdlrA7l4/S2xCYrJK7PI/AAAAAAAABC4/aHmMU6j5HFs/s640/1870-Winter-Mount-Washington-New-Hampshire-UFO.jpg | May 01 07:46 |
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| cubezzz | it's a 1870 picture of a weird object, similar to the one his old guy saw 65 years ago | May 01 07:46 |
| cubezzz | note that it is _above_ the mountain tops | May 01 07:47 |
| cubezzz | several times during the summer I saw "shooting stars", nothing special | May 01 07:48 |
| cubezzz | I bet if you set up a telescope all night and captured video all night you would see something weird for sure | May 01 07:49 |
| cubezzz | DaemonFC, if you ever get the chance, ask Neil Armstrong about UFOs | May 01 07:49 |
| cubezzz | or just watch some interviews he did, he's got no reason to lie about it | May 01 07:50 |
| cubezzz | no book deal, no commercial reason | May 01 07:50 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @jasdeep: RT @fish_pond: Active Discussion on Citizen statement against #uid http://thefishpond.in/anivar/2010/citizens-against-uid/ | May 01 07:55 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/30650875 "@aseigo @schestowitz Personelly I find it funny that Snap is the Killer feature in the Windows commericals. This is the best you have Win7??" . | May 01 08:01 |
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| schestowitz | What is the selling point of Vista 7? I still don't understand. | May 01 08:01 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz Wow Boycottnovell.com is techrights.org? When did this happen? " | May 01 08:01 |
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| Omar87 | Hi all. | May 01 08:08 |
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| schestowitz | Hi, Omar87 | May 01 08:17 |
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| Eruaran | schestowitz: the selling point is that its prettier than XP and its not Vista... | May 01 08:29 |
| Eruaran | ;) | May 01 08:29 |
| schestowitz | Eruaran: that's what I thought exactly | May 01 08:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] "The possibility that higher life form might have emerged by chance is comparable to the chance that a tornado (cont) http://tl.gd/13m6kl | May 01 08:44 | |
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| schestowitz | Bad analogy | May 01 08:47 |
| schestowitz | It distorts the nature of the process of natural selection and it's a classic distortion, too | May 01 08:48 |
| schestowitz | http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/04/28/1419232/FAA-Says-No-More-Minesweeper-Or-Solitaire-In-Cockpit | May 01 08:48 |
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| schestowitz | Are they using WIndows??!? | May 01 08:49 |
| schestowitz | Cockpits don't run Windows, just sensationalism | May 01 08:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=9210 | May 01 08:50 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz, Natural selection is a process. You have a PHD. So, please allow me to say that you should feel ashamed of yourself for believing that a process might just execute itself. | May 01 08:50 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, No, offense. But it's just what I think. | May 01 08:50 |
| schestowitz | It's all reversed | May 01 08:52 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, it's like saying that "since there's a process called "Baking", then who needs human "Baker" to bake the bread?" | May 01 08:52 |
| schestowitz | I think a Ph.D. should be ashamed of his/herself to believe in miracles that lack evidence | May 01 08:52 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, which complete logical absurdity. | May 01 08:52 |
| schestowitz | [08:50] <Omar87> schestowitz, Natural selection is a process. You have a PHD. So, please allow me to say that you should feel ashamed of yourself for believing that a process might just execute itself.\ | May 01 08:52 |
| schestowitz | You mean, like a divinity being created out of thin air? | May 01 08:52 |
| schestowitz | /s/his/him. | May 01 08:53 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, God is the creator of the Theory of Reason itself, Dr. Roy. | May 01 08:53 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, Your PH.D doesn't indicate that you have completed science. | May 01 08:54 |
| schestowitz | Oh no; http://technologizer.com/2010/04/29/skyfire-review/ | May 01 08:54 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz, "itself" refers to the Theory of Reason/ | May 01 08:54 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: who creatd God? | May 01 08:54 |
| schestowitz | It must have come from somewhere, right? | May 01 08:54 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, Exactly. That's the most stupid question a man can ask. | May 01 08:54 |
| schestowitz | Why? | May 01 08:55 |
| schestowitz | It's like asking where people came from? | May 01 08:55 |
| schestowitz | And hundreds of billions of stars like our sun and planets around them | May 01 08:55 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, Because that's called the "Theory of Reason" which also created from god. | May 01 08:55 |
| schestowitz | But what is God? | May 01 08:55 |
| schestowitz | You said he crated it | May 01 08:55 |
| schestowitz | Who created "God"? | May 01 08:55 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, it's like saying that man consists of silicon chips just because computers -which are the invention of man- consist of silicon chips. | May 01 08:56 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, does computer know what humans are made of? | May 01 08:56 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, does a robot know who created it? | May 01 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, massive storm coming | May 01 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | only about 15 miles west of me :P | May 01 08:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] '#Apple's new slogan: "There's a patent for that." ' http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1637538&cid=32051634 | May 01 08:57 | |
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| DaemonFC | or closer.... | May 01 08:58 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, the intelligence of the robot is too tiny for it to comprehend who is its creator. ya know. | May 01 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | radar says it's not here yet but there's heat lightning above me | May 01 08:58 |
| schestowitz | But we're back where we started, having to explain even more complex things than the universe. Why not save a step and say, the universe has been here since the inflation? | May 01 08:58 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: chips are not biological | May 01 08:58 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, Who created the inflation? | May 01 08:58 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, duh?! :) | May 01 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The universe has been here since the inflation and it will keep expanding until the bubble bursts and it goes into recession | May 01 08:59 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, neither are planets, btw. | May 01 08:59 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: this is it. The storm that'll take you ou before Bamacare | May 01 08:59 |
| DaemonFC | then time will start running backwards as it collapses in on itself | May 01 08:59 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I've had insurance for the last 3 hours and 44 minutes | May 01 08:59 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 01 08:59 |
| schestowitz | [08:59] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: The universe has been here since the inflation and it will keep expanding until the bubble bursts and it goes into recession | May 01 08:59 |
| schestowitz | That's one theory | May 01 09:00 |
| schestowitz | Because of gravity | May 01 09:00 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: :-) | May 01 09:00 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: No, it's because Goldman Sachs is God | May 01 09:00 |
| DaemonFC | obviously :) | May 01 09:00 |
| schestowitz | Ah... | May 01 09:00 |
| schestowitz | That shows Lloyd's God is moral | May 01 09:01 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: There is a small bit of truth in those late night infomercials | May 01 09:01 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, how did gravity come up? And why does Earth have more gravity the Mars? Weren't they a single piece before the Big Bang? | May 01 09:01 |
| DaemonFC | the banksters have destroyed what little wealth you have after putting all theirs in gold bars | May 01 09:02 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 01 09:02 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: they called what they sold to clients "shitty" | May 01 09:02 |
| schestowitz | and "Crappy" | May 01 09:02 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: they have different mass | May 01 09:02 |
| DaemonFC | selling them to their customers and betting against what they sold | May 01 09:02 |
| DaemonFC | they knew it was all worthless | May 01 09:02 |
| schestowitz | I have more gravitational on my table than Mars | May 01 09:03 |
| schestowitz | Which also debunks in part the whole BS about astrology | May 01 09:03 |
| schestowitz | [09:02] <DaemonFC> the banksters have destroyed what little wealth you have after putting all theirs in gold bars | May 01 09:03 |
| schestowitz | Goldman would call them God Bars | May 01 09:03 |
| schestowitz | Doing God's WOrk | May 01 09:03 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, cool. But that didn't explain why, after the Big Bang, Earth obtained more mass than Mars. | May 01 09:03 |
| schestowitz | Jupiter has more mass | May 01 09:04 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, Again, why? | May 01 09:04 |
| schestowitz | Galaxy formation doesn't say all planets will be created equal | May 01 09:04 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: it depends on their vicinity and what they are made of | May 01 09:04 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, is it only a mere coincidence that we are living on Earth instead Jupiter or Mars? | May 01 09:04 |
| schestowitz | No | May 01 09:04 |
| schestowitz | We adapted this this environment | May 01 09:04 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, by mere coincidence? | May 01 09:05 |
| schestowitz | You could possible have biology in their too, if it ever evolved | May 01 09:05 |
| schestowitz | UIt required a simple composition to replicate, usually with liquid | May 01 09:05 |
| Omar87 | Out of nowhere? | May 01 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | I am Bender, please insert girder | May 01 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 01 09:05 |
| schestowitz | Gas giants are not good for reproduction | May 01 09:05 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: how about picking a planet in random? | May 01 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I like how they dealt with global warming in Futurama | May 01 09:06 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, for what? | May 01 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | move the planet into an orbit further from the sun | May 01 09:06 |
| schestowitz | Few have life in them, we are 'lucky' because of the perspective | May 01 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | problem solved :D | May 01 09:06 |
| Eruaran | Ubuntu 10.04 looks alright | May 01 09:06 |
| Eruaran | (finally got around to booting a cd) | May 01 09:06 |
| schestowitz | It's like saying, "wow, I am so lucky to look 100% like I do!" | May 01 09:06 |
| schestowitz | That's not luck, it's actualisation | May 01 09:06 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, By coincidence? | May 01 09:07 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, that's absurd. | May 01 09:07 |
| schestowitz | Eruaran: gnome? | May 01 09:07 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: not coincidence | May 01 09:07 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, No reason? | May 01 09:07 |
| schestowitz | Coincidence is not a veyr scientific notion either, probability is | May 01 09:07 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: You're telling me that we can't just wait until it's a problem then move the planet into a further orbit? | May 01 09:07 |
| DaemonFC | If so, then why not? :) | May 01 09:07 |
| Eruaran | schestowitz: yes | May 01 09:07 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, 2 names for the same thing. | May 01 09:07 |
| schestowitz | Coincidence is this idea that we're struck by good chance | May 01 09:07 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: unlikely | May 01 09:08 |
| schestowitz | We're not made for other planets | May 01 09:08 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, possibility itself in no more than a result of an action. Like some tossing a coin into the air. | May 01 09:08 |
| schestowitz | So we need to do teraforming | May 01 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | hmmmm | May 01 09:08 |
| schestowitz | New: http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20627583.700-designing-greenhouses-for-the-red-planet.html?full=true&print=true | May 01 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | lightning hitting the ground | May 01 09:08 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Designing greenhouses for the Red Planet - space - 29 April 2010 - New Scientist .::. Size~: 23.65 KB | May 01 09:08 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, a coin can never toss itself, as you may have learned. | May 01 09:08 |
| Eruaran | schestowitz: Apart from the new plymouth splash, Kubuntu doesn't look so new to me because I had already been using the latest KDE for a while | May 01 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I'd like a nice habitable moon in orbit around a gas giant | May 01 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | I think that would be a nice view | May 01 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 01 09:09 |
| schestowitz | The indexing takes up a lot of CPU here... and RAM too actually.. | May 01 09:09 |
| Eruaran | DaemonFC: agreed | May 01 09:09 |
| schestowitz | Hard drive thrashing will hopefully end son | May 01 09:09 |
| Omar87 | someone tossing a coin.. | May 01 09:09 |
| schestowitz | *soon | May 01 09:09 |
| Eruaran | hard drive thrashing? | May 01 09:09 |
| Eruaran | you trying vista? | May 01 09:09 |
| Eruaran | ;) | May 01 09:09 |
| schestowitz | Files beijng indexed | May 01 09:09 |
| Eruaran | ah | May 01 09:10 |
| DaemonFC | Vista never thrashed my hard drive | May 01 09:10 |
| Eruaran | lies | May 01 09:10 |
| Eruaran | Windows always thrashes drives | May 01 09:10 |
| Eruaran | ;) | May 01 09:10 |
| DaemonFC | but I always go crazy with RAM because it's cheap | May 01 09:10 |
| schestowitz | PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S PU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND | May 01 09:10 |
| schestowitz | 16302 roy 20 0 704m 213m 10m S 0 10.6 6:40.70 thunderbird-bin | May 01 09:10 |
| schestowitz | 16470 roy 20 0 397m 171m 9692 S 0 8.5 2:39.34 firefox-bin | May 01 09:10 |
| schestowitz | 1866 roy 39 19 233m 137m 6448 S 25 6.8 279:42.18 nepomukservices | May 01 09:10 |
| DaemonFC | I never leave any empty RAM sockets | May 01 09:10 |
| Eruaran | First time I noticed Windows thrashing a hard drive was back in 1995 | May 01 09:10 |
| DaemonFC | no reason to bitch really | May 01 09:10 |
| schestowitz | load average: 2.67, 2.44, 2.26 | May 01 09:10 |
| schestowitz | And that's on a /desktop/ | May 01 09:10 |
| DaemonFC | RAM is about $8 per GB if you look around | May 01 09:11 |
| Eruaran | Windows95 really raped the hard drive while OS/2 on the same system didn't... | May 01 09:11 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, check this out: http://talk.islamicnetwork.com/showthread.php?t=16853 | May 01 09:11 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: ABIOGENESIS [life coming from non life] – its ‘Impossible’. - Islamic Networking .::. Size~: 62.23 KB | May 01 09:11 |
| schestowitz | Idle time used up to scan my files | May 01 09:11 |
| DaemonFC | who cares if Vista or 7 use 1 gig more than XP? | May 01 09:11 |
| DaemonFC | my Windows 7 system has 8 GB and my od XP system has 1 | May 01 09:11 |
| DaemonFC | *old | May 01 09:11 |
| *Eruaran slaps DaemonFC | May 01 09:11 | |
| DaemonFC | well, if you complain about resource use, you're really picking the wrong fight | May 01 09:12 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: it's an old straw man | May 01 09:12 |
| schestowitz | There are good textbooks explaining the process | May 01 09:12 |
| DaemonFC | it's like you have a computer that can do 10 times the workload of your old one and an OS with 10% more overhead | May 01 09:12 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: 8 GB is more than one needs | May 01 09:13 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, even the concept of possibility refutes any claims that some extremely complicated system might have originated out of nothing. | May 01 09:13 |
| DaemonFC | there's important things to bitch about, resource use isn't one of them | May 01 09:13 |
| schestowitz | Unless you run a server or do CG animations or something | May 01 09:13 |
| DaemonFC | really, the people bitching about resource use are trying to shove Windows 7 on a system they bought at Walmart in 2003 | May 01 09:13 |
| Eruaran | I really hate looking and seeing an OS using 1GB RAM before I' | May 01 09:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Gregory Maxwell: how the patent minefield was laid around #mpeg codecs #xiph http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/theora/2010-April/003769.html | May 01 09:13 | |
| DaemonFC | more often than not | May 01 09:13 |
| Eruaran | *before I've even started a browser | May 01 09:14 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: it didn't originate from nothing | May 01 09:14 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, "When we proceed one step further in the evolutionary scheme of life, we observe that one single protein means nothing by itself. One of the smallest bacteria ever discovered, Mycoplasma hominis H39, contains 600 "types" of proteins. In this case, we would have to repeat the probability calculations we have made above for one protein for each of these 600 different types of proteins. The result beggars even the concept of impossibility." | May 01 09:14 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, that's what I meant. | May 01 09:14 |
| Eruaran | my monthly usage meter has gone crazy | May 01 09:14 |
| DaemonFC | really I can't run anything but XP on my laptop | May 01 09:15 |
| Eruaran | a few minutes ago it said my usage was -200mb which is bad... now is says +70mb | May 01 09:15 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: today's simplest bacteria isn't the one from 3-4 billion years ago | May 01 09:15 |
| DaemonFC | the Linux video drivers are framebuffer only | May 01 09:15 |
| DaemonFC | try playing Flash videos with that | May 01 09:15 |
| DaemonFC | try doing anything on that | May 01 09:15 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, regardless. It can never create anything by itself. | May 01 09:15 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, who's more complex humans or robots? | May 01 09:15 |
| schestowitz | Didn't create by self | May 01 09:16 |
| Eruaran | DaemonFC: I'm going to buy you an Amiga | May 01 09:16 |
| schestowitz | It happened inside water | May 01 09:16 |
| Eruaran | ;) | May 01 09:16 |
| schestowitz | Amigo? | May 01 09:16 |
| Eruaran | Amiga | May 01 09:16 |
| Eruaran | DaemonFC: those things run on air you know | May 01 09:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@wesbenterprise Jobs is a hard genius to love | May 01 09:16 | |
| schestowitz | LOL LMAO http://gizmodo.com/5527442/microsoft-cancels-innovative-courier-tablet-project | May 01 09:17 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Microsoft Cancels Innovative Courier Tablet Project - Tablets - Gizmodo .::. Size~: 73.03 KB | May 01 09:17 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, even so. It's like saying that an inanimate stone can move itself from one spot to they other because it was under water. | May 01 09:17 |
| Eruaran | innovative? | May 01 09:17 |
| DaemonFC | I want one of those compressed air/gasoline cars really | May 01 09:17 |
| Eruaran | since when is vaporware innovative? | May 01 09:17 |
| DaemonFC | electric hybrids are so fucking stupid | May 01 09:17 |
| Omar87 | the* other | May 01 09:17 |
| DaemonFC | speaking of running on air | May 01 09:17 |
| Eruaran | DaemonFC: go full electric | May 01 09:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@wesbenterprise I love my #powerpc macs tho | May 01 09:17 | |
| DaemonFC | compressed air is the only true alternative I've seen so far | May 01 09:18 |
| DaemonFC | electric cars aren't practical | May 01 09:18 |
| Eruaran | DaemonFC: get a Tesla Roadster | May 01 09:18 |
| Eruaran | ;) | May 01 09:18 |
| DaemonFC | Eruaran: I'm serious, I want one of those compressed air ones | May 01 09:18 |
| DaemonFC | run the pump for a few hours and the car gets you almost 200 miles | May 01 09:18 |
| DaemonFC | there's your gas alternative | May 01 09:19 |
| Eruaran | what runs the pump? | May 01 09:19 |
| DaemonFC | electricity | May 01 09:19 |
| DaemonFC | I mean batteries to run the car on are impractical | May 01 09:19 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, again, who's more compex, humans or robots? | May 01 09:19 |
| DaemonFC | not even worth bothering with | May 01 09:19 |
| Omar87 | complex* | May 01 09:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.develop-online.net/news/34653/Bungie-signs-ten-year-deal-with-Activision | May 01 09:19 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Bungie signs ten year deal with Activision | Game Development | News by Develop .::. Size~: 39.56 KB | May 01 09:19 |
| schestowitz | What happened to the VOle? | May 01 09:19 |
| Eruaran | DaemonFC: nonsene, a half tonne of laptop batteries are just the thing! | May 01 09:20 |
| DaemonFC | just drive a shitload of compressed air into that tank | May 01 09:20 |
| DaemonFC | and run the car | May 01 09:20 |
| Eruaran | *nonsense | May 01 09:20 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: some stones move | May 01 09:20 |
| schestowitz | Ice sheets | May 01 09:20 |
| DaemonFC | you'll like it a lot better than some stupid Prius | May 01 09:20 |
| Eruaran | I have one thing to say about the Prius | May 01 09:20 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, out of themselves? That's nonsense, no offense. | May 01 09:20 |
| schestowitz | in California for example... there are many more examples of moving rocks and there's volcanic activity to help sometimes | May 01 09:20 |
| DaemonFC | it's for idiots? | May 01 09:20 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, again, who's more compex, humans or robots? | May 01 09:20 |
| DaemonFC | total morons? | May 01 09:20 |
| Eruaran | they are gay | May 01 09:20 |
| DaemonFC | people with too much money who like to sniff their own socks? | May 01 09:20 |
| schestowitz | [09:19] <Omar87> schestowitz, again, who's more compex, humans or robots? | May 01 09:20 |
| schestowitz | Depends | May 01 09:21 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, No | May 01 09:21 |
| schestowitz | We're better refine at sub-molecular level | May 01 09:21 |
| Eruaran | they can give me money and sniff my socks | May 01 09:21 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, I'm talking about the altogether view. | May 01 09:21 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, Humans are far more complex than robots. In every aspect. | May 01 09:21 |
| schestowitz | And what does that tell us? | May 01 09:22 |
| schestowitz | Planets are complex too | May 01 09:22 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, it tells us, that complex things must have a more complex entity to create them. | May 01 09:22 |
| Eruaran | Malcolm Turnbull has decided not to quit after all | May 01 09:23 |
| schestowitz | Ah, OK. So who created God? | May 01 09:23 |
| schestowitz | He must have been darn complex to create an entity capable of creating complex entities | May 01 09:23 |
| schestowitz | *[or she] | May 01 09:23 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, you're back to the same stupid question. You're trying to apply a theory on its creator! | May 01 09:23 |
| schestowitz | It's a recursive riddle | May 01 09:23 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, it's only recursive when you deny the existence of God. | May 01 09:24 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: the creator isn't except from laws | May 01 09:24 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, Of course he is! | May 01 09:24 |
| schestowitz | If it is, then why not assume that about the universe? | May 01 09:24 |
| schestowitz | *exempt | May 01 09:24 |
| Eruaran | zzz | May 01 09:24 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, it's like a string doll saying, even my maker moves by strings because I do. Which is dumb. | May 01 09:25 |
| schestowitz | We are move similarly | May 01 09:25 |
| Eruaran | I refuse to take part in this | May 01 09:25 |
| schestowitz | Gravity, combustion, etc. | May 01 09:25 |
| schestowitz | *moved | May 01 09:25 |
| schestowitz | Eruaran: I know | May 01 09:25 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, Right. But you don't read silk string to move, do you? | May 01 09:26 |
| Eruaran | I need a scotch and cola | May 01 09:26 |
| Eruaran | methinks | May 01 09:26 |
| Eruaran | its been one of those weeks | May 01 09:26 |
| Omar87 | need** | May 01 09:26 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: I am biological like you | May 01 09:26 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, that's right. | May 01 09:26 |
| schestowitz | I can burn energy in the cells | May 01 09:26 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, true. | May 01 09:26 |
| schestowitz | That complies just fine with the same physics that applies to dolls | May 01 09:26 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, the point is. Creation have different rules than their creator. | May 01 09:27 |
| schestowitz | You could make a doll with motors and call it "robot" | May 01 09:27 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, you don't car oil to remove the friction in your body, do you? | May 01 09:27 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: there might be more dimensions for example, but that does not justify books written by men with cattle thousands of years ago | May 01 09:27 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, Quran wasn't written by men. | May 01 09:28 |
| schestowitz | If you want to explaining higher complexity, it doesn't need to be a biblical creator | May 01 09:28 |
| schestowitz | The singularity has theories around it | May 01 09:28 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: it was actually | May 01 09:28 |
| Eruaran | If people living in a two dimensional world saw a three dimensional ball pass through their world, what do you think they would see? | May 01 09:28 |
| schestowitz | Not even so long ago | May 01 09:28 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, nope! It wasn't. | May 01 09:28 |
| schestowitz | 1400 years ago, IIRC | May 01 09:28 |
| schestowitz | We have better literature today, IMHO | May 01 09:29 |
| schestowitz | it contains explanations that can be tested and verified | May 01 09:29 |
| DaemonFC | the cat is hiding | May 01 09:29 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 01 09:29 |
| schestowitz | Thought it might not be best selling cause it takes longer to grasp | May 01 09:29 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: jabba! | May 01 09:30 |
| DaemonFC | storm approaching | May 01 09:30 |
| DaemonFC | I'll see the cat later | May 01 09:30 |
| schestowitz | Hehe. Microsoft's hypePad response id dead | May 01 09:30 |
| schestowitz | What's left for Microsoft in mobility? | May 01 09:30 |
| cubezzz | down :) | May 01 09:30 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Remember the HP iPod? | May 01 09:30 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 01 09:30 |
| schestowitz | I remember some German ones | May 01 09:30 |
| DaemonFC | how that lasted almost a whole year | May 01 09:31 |
| schestowitz | Heier IIRC | May 01 09:31 |
| cubezzz | HP isn't too great either | May 01 09:31 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, yeah? | May 01 09:31 |
| schestowitz | Slate is junk | May 01 09:31 |
| cubezzz | Old HP was good though | May 01 09:31 |
| Eruaran | DaemonFC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REQRHdMRimw | May 01 09:31 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: YouTube- Pussy versus Printer .::. Size~: 81.66 KB | May 01 09:31 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, do you know what black holes are? | May 01 09:31 |
| schestowitz | Yes | May 01 09:31 |
| cubezzz | it's interesting how almost everything starts off well and goes into crap :-0 | May 01 09:31 |
| schestowitz | I know a good deal about them | May 01 09:31 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz,what are they? | May 01 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Apple wanted an iPod with PC support but they didn't want to to be "too official" so they co-branded one with HP | May 01 09:31 |
| schestowitz | Places where gravity is so high that light too cannot escape | May 01 09:31 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, what else? | May 01 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | and you couldn't use iTunes, you had to use MusicMatch Jukebox | May 01 09:31 |
| schestowitz | They are formed when some planets die and we can verify this by observations that are distant | May 01 09:32 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, I know all that. What else? | May 01 09:32 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: invoking complex things doesn't justify complex beings | May 01 09:32 |
| Eruaran | I don't believe in black holes | May 01 09:32 |
| cubezzz | don't you mean stars? | May 01 09:32 |
| cubezzz | not planet | May 01 09:32 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, so where do all the things that go in actually go? | May 01 09:32 |
| schestowitz | Another startegy is invoking quantom physics | May 01 09:32 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: wormholes is the assumed vocation by some | May 01 09:33 |
| schestowitz | Space might be curved | May 01 09:33 |
| Eruaran | My mother does though, she says my belly is a black hole | May 01 09:33 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, so quantum physics emerged out of nowhere? | May 01 09:33 |
| schestowitz | No | May 01 09:33 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, where did it came from then? | May 01 09:33 |
| Omar87 | come* | May 01 09:33 |
| cubezzz | they talk about black hole "candidates" | May 01 09:34 |
| schestowitz | It's not an object | May 01 09:34 |
| schestowitz | it's a set of rules | May 01 09:34 |
| schestowitz | Like photons | May 01 09:34 |
| cubezzz | and theorize there are huge black holes at the centre of each galaxy | May 01 09:34 |
| schestowitz | Very small so hard for us to study with our tools, yet | May 01 09:34 |
| Eruaran | I don't believe that | May 01 09:34 |
| cubezzz | well it's a theory :) | May 01 09:34 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, where did these set of rules come from? | May 01 09:34 |
| schestowitz | theories are strong | May 01 09:34 |
| Eruaran | Its an electromagnetic vortex | May 01 09:35 |
| Eruaran | with tinsel | May 01 09:35 |
| schestowitz | It's a high level and it can be verified | May 01 09:35 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, where did these set of rules come from? | May 01 09:35 |
| schestowitz | "theory" is scientific term also applis to gravity | May 01 09:35 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, theories are generated through studying nature. | May 01 09:35 |
| schestowitz | And it you think gravity is "just a theory", then you can test it by jumping off a plane without a parachute and pray | May 01 09:35 |
| Eruaran | I don't believe gravitational theories can explain galaxies | May 01 09:36 |
| Eruaran | electromagnetism is more elegant | May 01 09:36 |
| schestowitz | They are related | May 01 09:36 |
| schestowitz | Gravity is the pull between atoms | May 01 09:36 |
| Eruaran | gravity is a weak force | May 01 09:36 |
| schestowitz | And they have electrons | May 01 09:36 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Toronto's #Kobo #ebooks reader-at last, freedom from walled gardens? http://bit.ly/bAaaoJ cc @rjurney | May 01 09:36 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Upstart Kobo puts Kindle in crosshairs - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 102.17 KB | May 01 09:36 |
| schestowitz | But these things are very small, so knowledge about this is recent | May 01 09:37 |
| schestowitz | heck, we didn't know DNA until decades ago | May 01 09:37 |
| schestowitz | Eruaran: super weak | May 01 09:37 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, where did gravity come from? | May 01 09:37 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2010/04/30/cahill_ridicules_cape_wind_project/ | May 01 09:37 |
| schestowitz | Compred to magnetic pull | May 01 09:37 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Cahill ridicules Cape Wind project - The Boston Globe .::. Size~: 38.18 KB | May 01 09:37 |
| Eruaran | That's why I think gravitational theories about the galaxy are totally wrong | May 01 09:37 |
| Eruaran | the equations are stupidly complex | May 01 09:38 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: when the inflation began there was a set of rules | May 01 09:38 |
| Eruaran | its like proving you can hang an elephant off a cliff with a daisy chain | May 01 09:38 |
| Eruaran | you can do it... in theory | May 01 09:38 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, what invoked the inflation? | May 01 09:38 |
| schestowitz | If numerous universes (parallel) exist, they can have other constants for speed of light, gravity, etc. | May 01 09:38 |
| cubezzz | I think you can talk about the law of gravity, rather than theory | May 01 09:38 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: there may be several | May 01 09:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@glynmoody Boycott Apple. Boycott Everyone //certainly anyone lately deciding to boycott #Apple must ALREADY be #Windows-free,or deaf&blind | May 01 09:38 | |
| cubezzz | tch | May 01 09:39 |
| cubezzz | no one remember Amiga | May 01 09:39 |
| Eruaran | lies | May 01 09:39 |
| Eruaran | I remember the Amiga | May 01 09:39 |
| cubezzz | always no windows and no apple talk | May 01 09:39 |
| cubezzz | no, it's always ignored though | May 01 09:39 |
| Eruaran | I liked the Amiga's drawers | May 01 09:39 |
| schestowitz | Apple was never different | May 01 09:40 |
| schestowitz | Since the early days | May 01 09:40 |
| schestowitz | Just smaller and more arrigant | May 01 09:40 |
| cubezzz | it's like they talk like there's nothing but microsoft and apple | May 01 09:40 |
| cubezzz | it's stupid | May 01 09:40 |
| schestowitz | We need to trade software like we trade Wikipedia | May 01 09:40 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: it's not | May 01 09:40 |
| cubezzz | we do, we totally do :) | May 01 09:40 |
| schestowitz | the media does this | May 01 09:40 |
| schestowitz | It plays for those who play for it | May 01 09:40 |
| schestowitz | Like it daemonises Wikipedia | May 01 09:40 |
| schestowitz | Apple and Microsoft spread 'content' DRM and advertise | May 01 09:41 |
| schestowitz | So the media promotes them in return. | May 01 09:41 |
| cubezzz | who demonizes Wikipedia? (aside from Gates of course) | May 01 09:41 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, all your explanations proved you wrong without you noticing. | May 01 09:41 |
| cubezzz | OK, everyone just needs to calm down, and buy a 1200 | May 01 09:41 |
| cubezzz | that's my advise today | May 01 09:42 |
| Omar87 | cubezzz, what's a 1200? | May 01 09:42 |
| cubezzz | advice even :) | May 01 09:42 |
| cubezzz | Omar87, probably one of the most open computers ever made | May 01 09:42 |
| cubezzz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_1200 | May 01 09:42 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Amiga 1200 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 74.2 KB | May 01 09:42 |
| Omar87 | cubezzz, I see. | May 01 09:42 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC was right. http://www.lala.com/shutdown | May 01 09:42 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Not a web page! Aborting text/plain type .::. Size~: 0 KB | May 01 09:42 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: they didn't. | May 01 09:43 |
| cubezzz | the media sucks anyways | May 01 09:43 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, of course they did. Big time. | May 01 09:43 |
| Omar87 | cubezzz, used to have a 64 a couple decades ago. :) | May 01 09:43 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: heh. I didn't know a 1200 | May 01 09:43 |
| cubezzz | best documented, best price, most open | May 01 09:43 |
| cubezzz | unless you build your own computer | May 01 09:44 |
| cubezzz | every chip documented | May 01 09:44 |
| cubezzz | anyways, I'm getting one :) | May 01 09:44 |
| cubezzz | way overdue | May 01 09:44 |
| cubezzz | Amiga 1200 with compact flash boots in under 3 seconds | May 01 09:45 |
| cubezzz | schematics are available too | May 01 09:46 |
| cubezzz | windows should not have won | May 01 09:49 |
| cubezzz | something seriously went wrong for that to happen | May 01 09:49 |
| cubezzz | almost every other OS was better: OS/2, Linux, Unix, BeOS, AmigaDOS | May 01 09:50 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: declating oneself victorious doesn't make it so | May 01 09:50 |
| cubezzz | AmigaDOS ran in 256K :) | May 01 09:51 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: Example, the silicon chip is a building block of a motherboard. So saying that a single inanimate silicon chip can replicate itself into a fully functional motherboard automatically is worse than absurdity can describe, even if it obtained (outta friggin' nowhere) all kinds of rules, laws, theories, resources, conditions and self-executing events our mortal, extremely can think of. | May 01 09:51 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: where are you pasting from? | May 01 09:51 |
| cubezzz | motherboard isn't just silicon either | May 01 09:51 |
| schestowitz | ;-) | May 01 09:51 |
| cubezzz | there's fibreglass too | May 01 09:51 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, I'm not pasting. | May 01 09:51 |
| cubezzz | and conductive metals | May 01 09:51 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, I wrote it myself. | May 01 09:51 |
| cubezzz | plastics | May 01 09:52 |
| schestowitz | OK | May 01 09:52 |
| DaemonFC | I just ran out and washed my car in the rain | May 01 09:52 |
| Omar87 | cubezzz, exactly. | May 01 09:52 |
| DaemonFC | with dishwashing liquid :) | May 01 09:52 |
| schestowitz | As I said before, chips are not biology | May 01 09:52 |
| satipera | Omar, why is it that theists are always trying to convince atheists that they should think like them and atheists on the whole just leave theists to get on with things? | May 01 09:52 |
| schestowitz | These analogies are being used by Mr. Banana Man and his sidekick Careron | May 01 09:52 |
| schestowitz | *Cameron | May 01 09:52 |
| Omar87 | satipera, the problem is that they don't. | May 01 09:52 |
| cubezzz | well Dawkins does more than just "mind his own business" | May 01 09:53 |
| Omar87 | satipera, you get idiots like the four liar men spitting nonsense, and stupid insults. | May 01 09:53 |
| satipera | I have had troops of christians knocking on my door over the years, but never an atheist looking for a theist to convert | May 01 09:53 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: no | May 01 09:53 |
| schestowitz | He's being pushed too | May 01 09:53 |
| Omar87 | satipera, Theists, on the other hand, go with proof and evidence. | May 01 09:53 |
| schestowitz | He used to do straught biology | May 01 09:53 |
| schestowitz | But science was being blocked byt he church and stuff | May 01 09:54 |
| cubezzz | well, ok, let me give another example | May 01 09:54 |
| cubezzz | I advocate too | May 01 09:54 |
| cubezzz | like I advocate Linux and Amiga | May 01 09:54 |
| cubezzz | most people don't mind :) | May 01 09:54 |
| schestowitz | Also, he saw children being indoctrinated and called things based on their parents, who in turn were labeled by their parents... going back to the Middle ages | May 01 09:54 |
| satipera | I do not see how faith sits very well with truth and evidence | May 01 09:55 |
| schestowitz | It can sometimes interfere with it... look at Apple fans | May 01 09:55 |
| schestowitz | They defend a BRAND | May 01 09:55 |
| cubezzz | yes, indoctrination can be good... sometimes | May 01 09:55 |
| schestowitz | Linux, in my opinion, is a paradigm, like science | May 01 09:55 |
| schestowitz | It preaches collaboration | May 01 09:55 |
| cubezzz | but ultimately you have to think as well | May 01 09:55 |
| schestowitz | We have 'sects' too, but only those that collaborate live on | May 01 09:56 |
| Omar87 | satipera, read the Quran, and shall see. | May 01 09:56 |
| Omar87 | you* | May 01 09:56 |
| schestowitz | We don't admire brands | May 01 09:56 |
| cubezzz | I spent like 30 years thinking about computers | May 01 09:56 |
| schestowitz | Like Microsoft or Apple | May 01 09:56 |
| schestowitz | Novell tried to go it alone and loook what happened to it | May 01 09:56 |
| schestowitz | It wasn't a team player | May 01 09:56 |
| schestowitz | [09:55] <cubezzz> yes, indoctrination can be good... sometimes | May 01 09:56 |
| schestowitz | That too is a natural selection thing | May 01 09:56 |
| schestowitz | Only religions that pressure to bve spread survive | May 01 09:57 |
| cubezzz | in Scouts there was some indoctrination | May 01 09:57 |
| schestowitz | Laws like having many offsprings or something like apostasy | May 01 09:57 |
| cubezzz | to put out fires and not leave trash lying around | May 01 09:57 |
| schestowitz | Many religions exoisted before | May 01 09:57 |
| schestowitz | Zeus, Apollo, Poseidon... | May 01 09:57 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, Quran came to sum them up. | May 01 09:57 |
| schestowitz | We haven't found them yet :-) | May 01 09:57 |
| cubezzz | Apollo was like the Sun | May 01 09:58 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, these are called "Myths". | May 01 09:58 |
| schestowitz | I mean, Poseidon | May 01 09:58 |
| schestowitz | The submarines are working on it | May 01 09:58 |
| cubezzz | Poseidon was like the Sea :) | May 01 09:58 |
| cubezzz | Thor was like thunder | May 01 09:58 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, I'm talking about Bible, the Torah, and Quran. | May 01 09:58 |
| schestowitz | We now have explanation for those | May 01 09:58 |
| schestowitz | The sun is a giant ball of gas | May 01 09:58 |
| schestowitz | The seas was made out of atomic elements exploding and reaching here as more elements were formed | May 01 09:59 |
| schestowitz | 2... to 70... then more | May 01 09:59 |
| schestowitz | Thunder is just electric phenomenon we now understand | May 01 09:59 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, So you're telling me that Mars NEVER existed before our invention "the telescope" could see it? | May 01 09:59 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: these are good for history or folklore | May 01 10:00 |
| schestowitz | How people used to think | May 01 10:00 |
| schestowitz | It's OK to study them | May 01 10:00 |
| schestowitz | But not as accurate references | May 01 10:00 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, but not for know your God. | May 01 10:00 |
| schestowitz | More like sci-fi, for inspiring minds | May 01 10:00 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, true | May 01 10:00 |
| schestowitz | Actually, sco-fi books these days are more in touch with real knowledge at some levels... like plasma, time travel, etc | May 01 10:01 |
| cubezzz | ummm, Mars can be seen with the naked eye :) | May 01 10:01 |
| cubezzz | just thought I'd mention that | May 01 10:01 |
| Omar87 | cubezzz, but neptune can't. | May 01 10:01 |
| schestowitz | [09:59] <Omar87> schestowitz, So you're telling me that Mars NEVER existed before our invention "the telescope" could see it? | May 01 10:01 |
| cubezzz | ok, sure | May 01 10:01 |
| schestowitz | Yes | May 01 10:01 |
| schestowitz | We could see it | May 01 10:01 |
| schestowitz | But we are better tat seeing stars | May 01 10:01 |
| schestowitz | At night | May 01 10:01 |
| Omar87 | cubezzz, and neither can you see a human cell with the nake eye. | May 01 10:02 |
| cubezzz | btw the sun's more in a plasmatic state rather than a gas | May 01 10:02 |
| schestowitz | There are old schemas of planets, going before Kettler's days | May 01 10:02 |
| cubezzz | Astronomy used to be a hobby :) | May 01 10:02 |
| cubezzz | and of course still is | May 01 10:02 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, can you see your cells with your naked eyes? | May 01 10:03 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: yeah, but it's being burned there | May 01 10:03 |
| Omar87 | No. | May 01 10:03 |
| schestowitz | Helium and stuff | May 01 10:03 |
| cubezzz | yes, mostly hydrogen | May 01 10:03 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: yes | May 01 10:03 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: therefore, they NEVER existed before our microscopes could see them. | May 01 10:03 |
| schestowitz | But I can't get good definition | May 01 10:03 |
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| schestowitz | The protons they emit are too few and my eye is not sensitive enough because of brighter things | May 01 10:04 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, can you see a nucleus with naked eyes? | May 01 10:04 |
| schestowitz | Define "see" | May 01 10:05 |
| schestowitz | I get some stuff off it | May 01 10:05 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, the american continent never existed before Culumbus and Americo discovered it. | May 01 10:06 |
| cubezzz | well they didn't like the name :) | May 01 10:06 |
| cubezzz | thanks for botching it up Columbus | May 01 10:07 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, Neptune never existed before our telescopes could spot it. | May 01 10:07 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz, Petroleum never existed before we could dig deep into the ground and find it. | May 01 10:09 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, this is called "Materialism", remember? | May 01 10:09 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, isn't that what you believe in? | May 01 10:09 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, well guess what? It's debunked. | May 01 10:10 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, so.. How's life? :) | May 01 10:11 |
| Omar87 | why is everybody silent? | May 01 10:12 |
| satipera | No more coffee for you Omar87 :) | May 01 10:12 |
| Omar87 | satipera, what? | May 01 10:13 |
| Omar87 | :) | May 01 10:13 |
| Omar87 | satipera, why? :P | May 01 10:13 |
| satipera | It is not a criticism, but you can get a little carried away | May 01 10:13 |
| Omar87 | satipera, carried away? | May 01 10:14 |
| Omar87 | :D | May 01 10:14 |
| satipera | Hmm how can I put it? | May 01 10:14 |
| satipera | A little over enthusiastic about one point. | May 01 10:15 |
| Omar87 | which point? | May 01 10:15 |
| satipera | Not so much a point but an issue. | May 01 10:16 |
| Omar87 | satipera, which is? | May 01 10:17 |
| schestowitz | [10:10] <Omar87> schestowitz, well guess what? It's debunked. | May 01 10:17 |
| schestowitz | Just caught up and no, it doesn't prove anything cause it's a straw man | May 01 10:18 |
| schestowitz | Before we saw more planets we didn't rule out the existence of more | May 01 10:18 |
| schestowitz | ANd before America was known it wasn't rules out that there was more to the world | May 01 10:18 |
| schestowitz | People only hypothesised there was an abyss at the end, but nobody had seen it yet | May 01 10:19 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, oh not that's false. | May 01 10:19 |
| schestowitz | But... | May 01 10:19 |
| schestowitz | The world's was known to be round long before that, in Giza | May 01 10:19 |
| schestowitz | (IIRC) | May 01 10:19 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, people even believe Earth was flat. And they killed anyone who thought otherwise. | May 01 10:19 |
| satipera | We realise that nothing is ever going change your beliefs, but we all have our own, you should not need to be so vocal in portraying your beliefs as superior | May 01 10:19 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: no | May 01 10:19 |
| schestowitz | The church did | May 01 10:19 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, regardless. | May 01 10:20 |
| schestowitz | The church believed and prosected for dissent | May 01 10:20 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, humans did. | May 01 10:20 |
| schestowitz | Now we are lucky to have scientific societies like in Scandinavia | May 01 10:20 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, plus, why am I saying this? You're refuting Materialism yourself. | May 01 10:21 |
| satipera | It is almost as if you are looking for a fight | May 01 10:21 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, no seeing God doesn't prove there's none either. | May 01 10:21 |
| Omar87 | not* | May 01 10:21 |
| schestowitz | We now have proponents and skeptics, not believers versus "heretics", and that is good | May 01 10:21 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, just as not seeing a planet doesn't prove it ain't there. | May 01 10:21 |
| schestowitz | People are allowed to depart from a docrtrine of belied, that's how most discoveries/advancements are made | May 01 10:22 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, so you just prove the fallacy of your own claim. Good job. | May 01 10:22 |
| schestowitz | Adversarian views | May 01 10:22 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: no | May 01 10:22 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, yes. | May 01 10:22 |
| schestowitz | Having some planets out there doesn't mean there can't be more | May 01 10:22 |
| schestowitz | Or more types of black holes, dwarves, etc. | May 01 10:22 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, the more you insist the dumber you look. No offense. :) | May 01 10:22 |
| schestowitz | We know of pulsars now and there might be more such things | May 01 10:23 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, you're repeating my points. | May 01 10:23 |
| schestowitz | But as the old saying goes, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence | May 01 10:23 |
| schestowitz | Leaps of faith are.. faith | May 01 10:23 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, having evidence that a planet exist is enough to prove that it might be there. | May 01 10:23 |
| schestowitz | If you can produce evidence, OK | May 01 10:23 |
| schestowitz | I don't deny planets | May 01 10:24 |
| schestowitz | I have evidence for it | May 01 10:24 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, evidence is all around you. | May 01 10:24 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, neither do I. I'm just proving the fallacy your claims. I'm being sarcastic. | May 01 10:24 |
| schestowitz | I don't have evidence for other things though... like grey aliens dressed up as humans and walking among us | May 01 10:25 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, if you can imagine God, then that's not God. | May 01 10:25 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: you should not prove a fallacy | May 01 10:25 |
| schestowitz | Provide correctness of yours using evidence. It needs to be testable | May 01 10:25 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, I can prove a falsehood. | May 01 10:25 |
| schestowitz | Saying "it can't be tested" does not qualify | May 01 10:25 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: inexistance cannot be proven | May 01 10:26 |
| schestowitz | Prove to me that there is no flying spaghetti monster in my room right now | May 01 10:26 |
| schestowitz | You can't | May 01 10:26 |
| schestowitz | Does that mean it exists? | May 01 10:26 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, an extremely complex system needs a much more coplex creator. | May 01 10:26 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, I can't prove it because there's no evidence for it. | May 01 10:27 |
| satipera | Omar87 repeating a statement does not make it any more convincing | May 01 10:27 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, but evidence that God is there is all around you. | May 01 10:27 |
| Omar87 | satipera, I'm not repeating. | May 01 10:27 |
| Omar87 | satipera, I'm emphasizing. | May 01 10:28 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: what do you mean by "God"? | May 01 10:28 |
| schestowitz | The Einsteinian one? | May 01 10:28 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, I mean the creator of everything. | May 01 10:28 |
| schestowitz | Where "God" is a metaphor? | May 01 10:28 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, no. | May 01 10:28 |
| satipera | What is your reasoning that something can only come into existence if it is less complex than the things that preceeded it? | May 01 10:28 |
| schestowitz | Or better, who created God? | May 01 10:29 |
| DaemonFC | my car is clean | May 01 10:29 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 01 10:29 |
| Omar87 | satipera, can a wooden chair create itself out of nowhere? | May 01 10:29 |
| schestowitz | The more layers you build, the more complex this becomes | May 01 10:29 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, the same stupid question again? | May 01 10:29 |
| schestowitz | Did the maker of God make many Gods? | May 01 10:29 |
| schestowitz | And if so, was "God" is chosen one? | May 01 10:30 |
| schestowitz | *his | May 01 10:30 |
| DaemonFC | opportunistic thunderstorm, an old dish sponge, and a bit of dish soap | May 01 10:30 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, God did not need a maker. God created the concept of "Making". | May 01 10:30 |
| schestowitz | How many days does it take God's creator to create one "God"? | May 01 10:30 |
| DaemonFC | beats popping quarters into that thing at the car wash that doesn't clean your car :P | May 01 10:30 |
| schestowitz | I thought you rode a bike now | May 01 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | I have bot | May 01 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | *both | May 01 10:31 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, that's where I can prove you're defeated. Cracking joke only means you've no more evidence to back your opinion. | May 01 10:31 |
| satipera | Omar87 A simple algorithm can produce great complexity | May 01 10:31 |
| Omar87 | jokes( | May 01 10:31 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, can this algorithm come out of thin ait? | May 01 10:32 |
| Omar87 | air* | May 01 10:32 |
| Omar87 | sorry I meant satipera | May 01 10:32 |
| satipera | Simple interactions can result in great complexity, we see it in nature all the time | May 01 10:33 |
| Omar87 | satipera, can these simple interactions execute themselves? | May 01 10:33 |
| satipera | Yes | May 01 10:33 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I hadn't been to the car wash in a while | May 01 10:33 |
| DaemonFC | at least a few years | May 01 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | I knew this because there was still an imprint of the guy that ran out in front of my in 2007 in the dirt on the hood | May 01 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 01 10:34 |
| Omar87 | satipera, simple interactions are procedures. It's like saying the the procedure of "weaving" can self-execute. Which is moonshine. | May 01 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | *me | May 01 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | fucking idiots everywhere | May 01 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | and every one of them has an ipod | May 01 10:35 |
| satipera | That is the point, complexity can come from simplicity | May 01 10:35 |
| Omar87 | satipera, it needs either a human weaver, or a weaving machine run by a human weaver. | May 01 10:36 |
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| Omar87 | satipera, I agree. But simplicity can NOT come out of nothing. | May 01 10:36 |
| DaemonFC | satipera: You ever sit and wonder how some of them remember how to breathe in and out, much less go to work, make money, and buy ipods? | May 01 10:36 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, those thigns are $300 for a decent model | May 01 10:36 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 01 10:36 |
| Omar87 | satipera, even simplicity itself needs to be created by either someone or something that's run by someone. | May 01 10:37 |
| satipera | DaemonFC :) | May 01 10:37 |
| DaemonFC | jogging around with his $300 ipod | May 01 10:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.cringely.com/2010/04/stevie-hawking-and-me/ | May 01 10:38 |
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| schestowitz | Heh. watch photo | May 01 10:38 |
| DaemonFC | my car didn't kill him, but he probably bumped himself off when his stock portfolio crashed | May 01 10:38 |
| DaemonFC | and his wife left and took everything that remained :) | May 01 10:38 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: it wasn't a joke | May 01 10:38 |
| schestowitz | I was serious | May 01 10:38 |
| Omar87 | satipera, and that goes all the way until we get to the "someone which in NOT run by anyone". That someone is God. | May 01 10:38 |
| schestowitz | And I look for an explantion | May 01 10:38 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: media players are not ipods | May 01 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: How do divorce courts work in the UK. Same as here? Woman goes in, castrates man, gets the kids, the house, the furniture, and a support check every month? | May 01 10:39 |
| schestowitz | it's just one piece of trash... the components are everywhre | May 01 10:39 |
| Omar87 | *who *is NOT run by anyone. | May 01 10:40 |
| schestowitz | It plays data, that's al | May 01 10:40 |
| DaemonFC | no, I mean he had an ipod | May 01 10:40 |
| DaemonFC | when I say ipod, I mean ipod | May 01 10:40 |
| DaemonFC | I don't use it as a catch all | May 01 10:40 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: we are not run by anyone either | May 01 10:40 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz, In order to get to that explanation, you need to consult your heart for one single time at least. | May 01 10:40 |
| schestowitz | We're a piece of dust in the side of a vast universe | May 01 10:41 |
| schestowitz | We don't truly have "purpose" or "Serve" someone above us. We're not robots | May 01 10:41 |
| schestowitz | We're part of a natural process | May 01 10:41 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, we are controlled by factors like gravity and time, however. | May 01 10:41 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, and by biology. | May 01 10:41 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, that natural process can NOT execute itself. | May 01 10:41 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: I can't consult my hart | May 01 10:42 |
| schestowitz | *heart | May 01 10:42 |
| schestowitz | it's most just muscle tissue | May 01 10:42 |
| schestowitz | We have 4 types of tissues in our body | May 01 10:42 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, that's what Materialism says. | May 01 10:42 |
| schestowitz | And our nerveous system is unique, it's what makes us 'aware', like bacteria | May 01 10:42 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, consult your sub-conscious then. | May 01 10:42 |
| schestowitz | *vous | May 01 10:42 |
| schestowitz | Where is it? | May 01 10:43 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, it's right with you. | May 01 10:43 |
| schestowitz | SHow it in atatomy | May 01 10:43 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, anatomy doesn't prove the mere phenomenon of thinking. | May 01 10:43 |
| schestowitz | We're moving into realms of aura and spirit and such stuff | May 01 10:43 |
| schestowitz | Many quacks made money out of making this up and marketing this to the masses | May 01 10:44 |
| schestowitz | "Your positive energies...." "speak to your spirit etc." -- all fraudsters (some self-convincing) for extracting power and money from others | May 01 10:44 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, some are quacks. But some others are professional psychologists. | May 01 10:45 |
| schestowitz | You mean those who keep good PR | May 01 10:45 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, no. | May 01 10:45 |
| schestowitz | Like a bunch of lawyers who intimidate criticis | May 01 10:45 |
| schestowitz | British Chiropractors society vs Singh... Uri Geller & fellow frauds vs the world | May 01 10:45 |
| schestowitz | Islam too intimidates critics | May 01 10:46 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, not really. | May 01 10:46 |
| schestowitz | But it's not a debate I want to have here | May 01 10:46 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: death threats, yes | May 01 10:46 |
| schestowitz | It's effective | May 01 10:46 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, nope! | May 01 10:46 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, that's NOT what Islam is about. | May 01 10:46 |
| schestowitz | I know | May 01 10:47 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, you don't. | May 01 10:47 |
| schestowitz | But some people defend it this way | May 01 10:47 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, it's like an illiterate man claiming he knows about Quantum physics. | May 01 10:47 |
| schestowitz | How so? | May 01 10:48 |
| schestowitz | And what does that have to do with the issue? | May 01 10:48 |
| schestowitz | Democracy at play: http://www.ocregister.com/news/-244428--.html | May 01 10:48 |
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| schestowitz | :-) | May 01 10:48 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, Islam is a constitution. It contains laws. These laws include awards for those who obey and warnings for those who cross the line. | May 01 10:49 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, which sounds quite fair to me. | May 01 10:50 |
| satipera | Listening to the radio and I agree with them, it is criminal to put tomato sauce and not brown sauce on a sausage sarnie :) Which suggests to me time for late breakfast, bfn | May 01 10:50 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, non-Muslims used to live peacefully (they do until now actually) alongside with Muslims in so many places. | May 01 10:51 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, sometime Islam gives them more freedom than Muslims themselves. | May 01 10:51 |
| Omar87 | bbl | May 01 10:51 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: How you registered has no effect on who you can vote for | May 01 10:52 |
| DaemonFC | it only affects what primary you can vote in | May 01 10:52 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana doesn't register you with a party affiliation | May 01 10:52 |
| DaemonFC | I can choose to vote in any primary I want | May 01 10:53 |
| schestowitz | THis is so silly | May 01 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | that's how Hillary Clinton won Indiana's primary in 2008 | May 01 10:53 |
| schestowitz | But I guess it's better than totality | May 01 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | all the Republicans got together and voted for her | May 01 10:53 |
| schestowitz | The Hilary[TM] label | May 01 10:53 |
| schestowitz | Hilarity | May 01 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | the Republicans voted in the Democratic primary to get Hillary Clinton | May 01 10:53 |
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| DaemonFC | they wanted her to be nominated because they figure she didn't have broad appeal among voters | May 01 10:54 |
| DaemonFC | and they're right | May 01 10:54 |
| DaemonFC | open primary = pick your party's opposition | May 01 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 01 10:55 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: watch data spin: | May 01 10:58 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/30/business/economy/30econ.html?partner=rss&emc=rss | May 01 10:58 |
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| schestowitz | They don't count unemployed people | May 01 10:58 |
| schestowitz | They check pace of aggregation | May 01 10:58 |
| schestowitz | Then they show 'something' declining :-) | May 01 10:58 |
| schestowitz | http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/30/where-all-that-money-went/?partner=rss&emc=rss | May 01 10:59 |
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| schestowitz | "“We’ve lost almost $11 trillion of household wealth in the last 17 or 18 months,” lamented Senator Christopher J. Dodd, the Connecticut Democrat, on last Sunday’s “Meet the Press,” as he urged Congress to proceed with speedy deliberations on a finance reform bill." | May 01 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Then they count the 3 million temps at the Census bureau as "employed" | May 01 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 01 10:59 |
| schestowitz | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/29/AR2010042902295.html?nav=rss_business/industries | May 01 10:59 |
| schestowitz | See? | May 01 10:59 |
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| schestowitz | The recession's over | May 01 10:59 |
| schestowitz | Back to work then | May 01 10:59 |
| schestowitz | [sarcasm /] | May 01 11:00 |
| schestowitz | http://webmink.com/2010/04/25/links-for-2010-04-25/ | May 01 11:01 |
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| schestowitz | Chocolate lovers 'are more depressive', say experts http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8644016.stm | May 01 11:01 |
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| schestowitz | Yikes: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-discuss/2010-April/056182.html | May 01 11:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @josephtartakoff Yahoo files to trademark "I'm Home" slogan ... | May 01 11:07 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Netflix is recommending Saving Private Ryan to me. I remember a few years ago some teenagers in Indianapolis defaced some World War II monument and part of their sentence was having to go see that | May 01 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | it's Tom Hanks movie right? That should have been the entire sentence. | May 01 11:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @kingslyj: @indradg FOSS(rather Linux) has moved from tinkerers to mainstream. The ratio of users to developers will only keep widening. | May 01 11:10 | |
| schestowitz | Yes | May 01 11:12 |
| schestowitz | I watched that ages ago | May 01 11:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@tabAFER girls don't like #boys, #girls like #cars and #money <3 // thanks for clearing that up! | May 01 11:12 | |
| schestowitz | BTW, got my msg re Comcast? | May 01 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | what about them? | May 01 11:13 |
| schestowitz | I tweeted you about it | May 01 11:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 and #boys sometimes have #cars and #money | May 01 11:14 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] True RT @kpnunni: Getting frustrated with ubuntu 10.04, they have moved the close, max and min button to the left in the default theme #grrr | May 01 11:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @akiefer Start up your #CUDA engines! #Octane Render-Interactive Physically Based Render Engine http://bit.ly/cPgAZr // & they're hiring! | May 01 11:18 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] @schestowitz I guess that helps explain the continuity of the human race! | May 01 11:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'Innovation' is a meaningless word. | May 01 11:19 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 and the car industry ;-) | May 01 11:19 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'Innovation' is a meaningless word. #justsayin | May 01 11:19 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] this one rocks RT @fakingnews: Breaking News: Delhi University professor wanted to create a Spider-Man http://bit.ly/aP09Wa #fakingnews | May 01 11:21 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @qu1j0t3 'Innovation' is a meaningless word. >> "general" ->"generic"; "developer"->"inventor"; "all-natural", "sustainable", "deluxe".. | May 01 11:22 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@royasmusic Not original to me. "Samuel Johnson made pronouncement that '#patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel' on April 7, 1775" | May 01 11:22 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] fossjobs.in now has Email subscriptions - http://fossjobs.in #foss #jobs #india | May 01 11:23 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@jeremyday Oh, gee, darn, I can't watch a video because I don't have Quicktime. I FUCKING HATE QUICKTIME! // quick options: #vlc #mplayer | May 01 11:24 | |
| schestowitz | m2mst might help with this: https://www.xs4all.nl/overxs4all/maatschappelijk/burgerinitiatief.php | May 01 11:26 |
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| schestowitz | A Better Chance at Justice for Abuse Victims http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/27/opinion/27lessig.html | May 01 11:32 |
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| schestowitz | Can't criticise for child abuse? | May 01 11:32 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@jeremyday right. #Apple's moves from #Microsoft's playbook alienate me further daily. | May 01 11:33 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@alomshaha banning the #burqa in #Belgium is a mistake // agree totally | May 01 11:34 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@jeremyday right, I have a kind of pointless boycott of iThings because i dislike gadgets in general. I revolt against the locked platform | May 01 11:36 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Watching @webmink give an entertaining talk at #oggcamp . Cracking on writing my #mumbuntu talk! | May 01 11:48 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@jeremyday by inclination i'm sympathetic to 'hacker ethos'... attempts to control device I own, bother me... #Android seems fully hackable | May 01 11:49 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@jeremyday of course i am using the traditional sense of hackable, not the #Windows "riddled with malware" sense | May 01 11:50 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Steve Jobs: "All video codecs are covered by patents. A pool will go after Theora and other "open source" codecs now" http://ur1.ca/y5pe | May 01 11:51 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@jeremyday imho #Apple missed HUGE opportunity to INCLUDE #opensource in a meaningful way w/ #OSX & iThings instead of tokenism & betrayal | May 01 11:52 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] We all come to a crossroads in our life where we make a decision to go down one route or another...... | May 01 11:53 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Left or right? mmmm.......box 1 or box 2? | May 01 11:54 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @AndyLandy Unsure of how to vote this Thursday? Let this simple flowchart guide you! http://i41.tinypic.com/1607ryp.jpg / #ROFLMAO! #uk | May 01 11:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] MPEGLA will go after Theora, Apple and Microsoft, along with a host of tech companies, are also members of MPEGLA: http://ur1.ca/y8z1 | May 01 11:56 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Patent challenge looming for open-source codecs? | Relevant Results - CNET News .::. Size~: 110.5 KB | May 01 11:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@alomshaha How can #burqa ban in Belgium be perceived by Muslims as anything other than discrimination //precisely; singling out 1 religion | May 01 12:00 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @jeremyday @qu1j0t3 You shd be able to put whatever code u want on device that you own without having to resort to jailbreaking // Amen | May 01 12:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Looking forward to pt2 of Doctor Who tonight....unfortunately will have to Sky+ it due to being at work. :( | May 01 12:06 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbNtYdxB64A | May 01 12:09 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] What? Desmond Wolfe is currently high on the #TNA public vote rankings...what is the world coming to? Vote Mr Anderson! #wrestling #wwe | May 01 12:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Steve Jobs: “A Patent Pool is Being Assembled to Go After Theora and Other “Open Source” Codecs Now.” http://ur1.ca/y5kt | May 01 12:11 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2010/04/jack_straw_face.html What crooks... | May 01 12:14 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Open Letter to Steve Jobs about Open Standards, Software Patents, and H264 patented video codec: http://ur1.ca/y4r2 | May 01 12:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] FOSS - Live telecast on TV for schools http://post.ly/eMLK | May 01 12:22 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: good tune | May 01 12:23 |
| schestowitz | And no CG junk in the BG | May 01 12:23 |
| schestowitz | Bray is lost at the G http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/04/28/Android-Dev-Blog | May 01 12:26 |
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| schestowitz | Doesn't look like fun.. http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/04/21/Bump | May 01 12:28 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Vote in the #TNA top ten rankings http://poll.fm/1uoji #wrestling | May 01 12:35 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Great radio project. Radio Wildfire, please consider supporting it and getting involved! http://www.radiowildfire.com #podcast #radio | May 01 12:38 | |
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| schestowitz | bbl | May 01 12:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] gormless. Fine word. Good follow-up from yesterday's Word of the Day - vapid. @mrpower | May 01 12:44 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Phew! Finally finished writing my #mumbuntu talk for #oggcamp | May 01 12:44 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@chris_coltrane "To #Murdoch, & British tabloids: Stop spreading fear & manipulating the vote" <--this would amount to regime change. #fox | May 01 12:47 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] New blog post: OMNewRotate 0.5.8 is out! http://blog.1407.org/2010/05/01/omnewrotate-0-5-8-is-out/ | May 01 12:50 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Halliburton's rig employees rescued by #US Coast Guard. And now Bobby Jindal wants all the Fed help he can get. #WhoKnewWhatTaxWasFor | May 01 13:00 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'I'd like to think catastrophe wasn't necessary for policy progress, but... [maybe we] just aren't wired any other way' http://bit.ly/bctbCC | May 01 13:04 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Tried 5 times to clone a 10Mb git repo using airtel GPRS and applied for a airtel broadband :| | May 01 13:32 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Airtel has something named "Fair use policy" . Does that mean, they will put cap on my bandwidth if i try to fuse their switch? #p2p | May 01 13:37 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@DanRebellato Sweet Christ this is disgraceful // indeed. @Twitter pins us to chair like Malcolm McDowell, toothpicks in, for this display | May 01 13:38 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] A LibDem not to vote for under any circumstances: David Ord, North Tyneside. http://skeptical-voter.org/wiki/index.php?title=David_Ord | May 01 13:51 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Afghanistan shows it's rejoined civilisation: they have an international-standard cricket team! http://is.gd/bPQea | May 01 14:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Xiph about Apple: "It would only strengthen the pushback against software patents and add to Apple's increasing PR mess" http://ur1.ca/y9xj | May 01 14:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Happy birthday to @ciphergoth, tralalalalaala | May 01 14:35 | |
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| cubezzz | anyone know of a place that sells ATX power supplies with -5V? | May 01 14:59 |
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| Eruaran | -5v? | May 01 15:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Convincing people to use Linux http://lug-iitd.posterous.com/convincing-people-to-use-linux #lug-iitd | May 01 15:32 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] +1 RD: @abbe: #fortune: No one dies #virgin, life f*cks everyone -- @bsdboy | May 01 15:55 | |
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| *Now talking on #boycottnovell | May 01 15:59 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell is: Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of the freedom-hostile | May 01 15:59 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz!~roy@cg070c.halls.manchester.ac.uk at Tue Apr 20 14:45:59 2010 | May 01 15:59 | |
| -ChanServ-[#boycottnovell] Welcome to the #boycottnovell channel | May 01 15:59 | |
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| schestowitz | http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2010/04/13/windows_users_vulnerable_to_flaw_in_java_web_start.html | May 01 16:16 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RMS links & endorses Citizen statement against #uid in http://stallman.org/ (check in Urgent action items) | May 01 16:23 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Collaborative, 'Open' Education Solutions and Healthcare http://www.hoise.com/vmw/10/articles/vmw/LV-VM-04-10-36.html #foss | May 01 16:27 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RT @rms Urgent: oppose mandatory ID in India http://ur1.ca/y5pi | May 01 16:37 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] My #ubuntu lucid desktop is unbootable. Looks like bug 561390 has got me. Not got time to fix it this week. http://bit.ly/c43dkB | May 01 16:45 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Bug #561390 in mountall (Ubuntu): “LVM - /var failed to mount during boot” .::. Size~: 133.43 KB | May 01 16:45 |
| schestowitz | Hmmm. what's this about? http://i41.tinypic.com/fmmotz.jpg | May 01 16:58 |
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| schestowitz | http://lcorg.blogspot.com/2010/04/bugs-in-ubuntu-1004.html | May 01 17:01 |
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| schestowitz | I haven't come across such issues | May 01 17:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Any recommendation for Written & Spoken classes for English near IIT Delhi #english | May 01 17:02 | |
| schestowitz | There is a lot of awakening around Apple recently | May 01 17:14 |
| schestowitz | Suddently, techrights' criticism of Apple does seem justified to almost all GNU/Linux users | May 01 17:14 |
| schestowitz | It's good that we've kept track and documented Apple's sins since 2008 | May 01 17:15 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/30/steve_jobs_claims_ogg_theora_attack/ | May 01 17:15 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Steve Jobs: mystery patent pool to attack Ogg Theora • The Register .::. Size~: 32.02 KB | May 01 17:15 |
| schestowitz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/561390 | May 01 17:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.netsplit.com/2010/04/30/on-systemd/ | May 01 17:19 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Bug #561390 in mountall (Ubuntu): “LVM - /var failed to mount during boot” .::. Size~: 133.43 KB | May 01 17:19 |
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| schestowitz | This guy has just caused a major 'netsplit' to many GNU/Linux users | May 01 17:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?q=site:techrights.org+remnant&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8&hl=en-GB | May 01 17:20 |
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| schestowitz | "On behalf of the Ubuntu Technical Board, Ubuntu Development Manager and board member Scott James Remnant has clarified that the use of C#, specifically the Mono implementation, is not considered to be a problem and that it, and applications based on it, will continue to be included with the Ubuntu default installation set. " | May 01 17:20 |
| schestowitz | http://www.h-online.com/open/Ubuntu-to-continue-using-Mono--/news/113674 | May 01 17:20 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Ubuntu to continue using Mono - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 33.56 KB | May 01 17:20 |
| cubezzz | "A-EON technology has appointed UK-based AmigaKit LLC, a premier Amiga retail and distribution company, as primary distributor for the | May 01 17:23 |
| cubezzz | +upcoming AmigaOne X1000 computer through Amiga market hardware channels world-wide." | May 01 17:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Venue for the Saturday evening #oggcamp party is Studio 2, Parr Street, L1 4JN. Beer O'Clock! #fb | May 01 17:24 | |
| schestowitz | The Microsofter is still causing trpuble. http://keithcu.com/wordpress/?p=849 | May 01 17:24 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Check #uid boiler plate docs http://bit.ly/cDGFdp http://bit.ly/b3mTsa . Nothing in these documents that specify openness | May 01 17:36 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] #UIDA now want the banks 2 use their authentication. They want "security & transparency" of transactions http://bit.ly/b3mTsa #uid | May 01 17:41 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Don't reboot #Ubuntu till you patch http://www.netsplit.com/2010/04/30/on-systemd/ | May 01 17:43 | |
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| schestowitz | Omar87-away: GNU/Linux for half a million Palestinian users: http://www.businessweek.com/idg/2010-04-29/un-to-buy-500-000-olpc-laptops-for-palestinian-children.html | May 01 17:44 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: UN to buy 500,000 OLPC laptops for Palestinian children - BusinessWeek .::. Size~: 47.05 KB | May 01 17:44 |
| schestowitz | Hmmm... this person is pissed off about Ubuntu: http://tycheent.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/notice-of-resignation/ | May 01 17:48 |
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| schestowitz | Some rants really flying this afternoon... http://theflamingbanker.blogspot.com/2010/04/plugin-authors-save-your-users-sanity.html | May 01 17:50 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: The Flaming Banker: Plugin Authors: Save Your Users' Sanity! .::. Size~: 63.58 KB | May 01 17:50 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, I'll do some posts soon | May 01 17:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODIwMA | May 01 17:51 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Boy, does Apple have a massive PR issue at the moment.... I find solace in the fact that more people can now understand my gripe re Apple | May 01 17:52 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/25/kyrgyzstan-human-rights-journalist-arrest | May 01 18:02 |
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| schestowitz | That's the govt Microsoft has been defending | May 01 18:03 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/25/pope-benedict-condom-gaffe | May 01 18:03 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* | May 01 18:03 |
| schestowitz | RMS: " | May 01 18:03 |
| schestowitz | A UK brainstorming team suggested branding a line of condoms after the pope. | May 01 18:03 |
| schestowitz | I think it is a great idea. | May 01 18:03 |
| schestowitz | " | May 01 18:03 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.stallman.org/archives/2010-jan-apr.html#29%20April%202010%20%28Win%2Flose%20for%20Peter%20Watts%29 | May 01 18:07 |
| schestowitz | "It is good that Watts won't immediately go to prison. (I am not sure how long the judge can maintain the threat to send him to prison later.) But this is not justice. Justice would be to put the border guards on trial, apologize to Watts, and change the law." | May 01 18:07 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: your latest post was a smashing success, no? | May 01 18:07 |
| ThistleWeb | in what way? | May 01 18:08 |
| ThistleWeb | didnt really notice much difference in the response | May 01 18:08 |
| schestowitz | i saw it cited in Linux sites | May 01 18:10 |
| schestowitz | It was a good post | May 01 18:10 |
| Omar87-away | schestowitz, interesting. Thanks for the link. | May 01 18:10 |
| ThistleWeb | really? | May 01 18:10 |
| ThistleWeb | ty | May 01 18:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Opinion: "Now we know the truth. The financial meltdown wasn't a mistake – it was a con" http://ur1.ca/vs96 | May 01 18:13 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Now we know the truth. The financial meltdown wasn't a mistake – it was a con | Will Hutton |Business |The Observer .::. Size~: 85.77 KB | May 01 18:13 |
| ThistleWeb | ooh, just noticed my reads on that post did spike | May 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Omar87-away: also see http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2010/04/27/iraq-detainees-describe-torture-secret-jail | May 01 18:15 |
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| schestowitz | BTW, I hope the earlier discussion didn't upset you. It's good as a debate, at the very least | May 01 18:15 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz, I know this. I've seen it on the news the other day. | May 01 18:16 |
| Ender2070_ | whos astralknight | May 01 18:16 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070_: someone from Digg who was quire rude | May 01 18:19 |
| schestowitz | *uite | May 01 18:20 |
| schestowitz | He was pro-Linux though so I didn't mind him much | May 01 18:20 |
| schestowitz | Harmless to Linux IMHO | May 01 18:20 |
| ThistleWeb | that's the first I've had anything picked up by sites like fsdaily, ty for the heads up | May 01 18:21 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070_: how come you ask? People attempted to associated that person with us in order to discredit us | May 01 18:21 |
| schestowitz | The coordinated campaign against BN was intense when we criticised Mono a lot, so they used any tricks in the book to smear me and this community | May 01 18:21 |
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| Ender2070_ | he left a message on my blog | May 01 18:30 |
| Ender2070_ | he was disappointed with me | May 01 18:30 |
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| Ender2070_ | said i should associate with you and stop my feud with lefty | May 01 18:30 |
| Ender2070_ | should not associate* | May 01 18:31 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz, Apple turned out to be even dumber than they look. | May 01 18:36 |
| Ender2070_ | basicly he caught me breaking my new focus already and put me back on track | May 01 18:37 |
| Ender2070_ | lol | May 01 18:37 |
| Ender2070_ | my blog now = positive stuff + programming stuff | May 01 18:38 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070_: cause I denounced him, IIRC | May 01 18:42 |
| schestowitz | Along with others | May 01 18:42 |
| schestowitz | That's why I'm careful not to do this to zealots... they turn against ME | May 01 18:42 |
| ThistleWeb | everyone turns against Window ME | May 01 18:43 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: they have some clever employees | May 01 18:43 |
| ThistleWeb | oh, different "ME" | May 01 18:43 |
| schestowitz | Yeah :-D | May 01 18:43 |
| Ender2070_ | ahhh | May 01 18:43 |
| schestowitz | They would interpret denouncing of their actions as you being against them | May 01 18:43 |
| Ender2070_ | well i've took his advice | May 01 18:43 |
| schestowitz | I usually just keep out | May 01 18:44 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070_: from today? | May 01 18:44 |
| schestowitz | Programming would be good | May 01 18:44 |
| Ender2070_ | yeah | May 01 18:44 |
| Ender2070_ | i used to have a lefty audio clip up | May 01 18:44 |
| schestowitz | And not feeding the troll from the sinking ship | May 01 18:44 |
| schestowitz | Let him sink in peace | May 01 18:44 |
| Ender2070_ | lol | May 01 18:44 |
| schestowitz | He has made enough enemies for over a decade | May 01 18:45 |
| schestowitz | He doesn't need more | May 01 18:45 |
| Ender2070_ | he didnt attack me or anything | May 01 18:45 |
| Ender2070_ | he was just like "why arent you turning over a new leaf like you said" | May 01 18:45 |
| schestowitz | so you exercise with c++ now? | May 01 18:45 |
| schestowitz | You shouldn't do basic code, you should hack on real code | May 01 18:46 |
| schestowitz | I always tell people to sign up for KDE or something, learn the code | May 01 18:46 |
| schestowitz | Then, pick bug reports | May 01 18:46 |
| schestowitz | Get the source | May 01 18:46 |
| schestowitz | Fix the bug | May 01 18:46 |
| schestowitz | Submit patches | May 01 18:46 |
| ThistleWeb | is this the same lefty who appears from time to time as a co-host on the ubuntu podcast with harlem and nick? | May 01 18:46 |
| Ender2070_ | i've been working on C | May 01 18:46 |
| schestowitz | It's a good way of learning and making GNU/Linux at the same time | May 01 18:46 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070_: KDE has some C projects | May 01 18:46 |
| ThistleWeb | he's introduced as "lefty fb" | May 01 18:46 |
| ThistleWeb | or is it a different guy? | May 01 18:46 |
| schestowitz | With upcoming bug reports that need addressing | May 01 18:47 |
| Ender2070_ | lefty fb != lefty | May 01 18:47 |
| schestowitz | You just need to write the patch and send for consideration | May 01 18:47 |
| schestowitz | You see how they wrote the program, which is educational and elss dry | May 01 18:47 |
| schestowitz | *less | May 01 18:47 |
| ThistleWeb | different bloke then | May 01 18:47 |
| Ender2070_ | yeah i've hit a wall, learning isn't very fun unless you're doing something useful | May 01 18:47 |
| schestowitz | Go hack on knode | May 01 18:48 |
| schestowitz | I need some new featuers there ;-) | May 01 18:48 |
| Ender2070_ | i probably should :) | May 01 18:48 |
| schestowitz | Compile | May 01 18:48 |
| schestowitz | Then change | May 01 18:48 |
| schestowitz | Compile again | May 01 18:48 |
| schestowitz | Add stuff/fix, then do a diff | May 01 18:48 |
| schestowitz | Submit the diff as a patch | May 01 18:48 |
| Ender2070_ | ill learn better when I have code that does something | May 01 18:48 |
| schestowitz | Quite simple | May 01 18:49 |
| Ender2070_ | lol | May 01 18:49 |
| Ender2070_ | ill be back in a bit | May 01 18:49 |
| schestowitz | If you break it, nothing too bad... just no patch submitted | May 01 18:49 |
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| schestowitz | See aseigo's blog | May 01 18:49 |
| schestowitz | There's a new project that needs devs | May 01 18:49 |
| schestowitz | plasma | May 01 18:50 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] GPLv2 (1991): Software patents in effect makes a free program a proprietary one: http://ur1.ca/yb38 | May 01 18:50 | |
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| schestowitz | Ender2070_: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2010/04/system-tray-progress.html | May 01 18:57 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] When it comes to patents, IBM stands for 'International Bullying Machines': http://ur1.ca/yb4v | May 01 18:59 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Mijn mening: Nederland is corrupt! Wat is er toch met de motie Vendrik en de open overheidsdesktop gebeurd... Snap er geen hout meer van ;-) | May 01 19:10 | |
| schestowitz | Facebook dodges the privacy question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoWKGBloMsU | May 01 19:20 |
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| schestowitz | I heard he deleted some too | May 01 19:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why is Google embargoing figures about YouTube revenue? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRiteqlZ4Zc | May 01 19:29 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] OMG, the release of #ubuntu #lucid obviously scares the Microsoft Astroturfers. "Moshe", "DFS", "Hadron" & co are overactive. | May 01 19:45 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Packing ready for two weeks at work in Belgium. | May 01 19:45 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ah what a nice warm and fuzzy feeling to see #omnewrotate being upgraded from opkg update ;) #shrunstable #openmoko #freerunner | May 01 20:04 | |
| Ender2070 | schestowitz - ty for the link ill check it out | May 01 20:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] I am coming to the conclusion that a sign of getting older for guys is packing more pairs of trousers for a trip. | May 01 20:15 | |
| schestowitz | Is this a nym? http://twitter.com/Elland_Road/statuses/13197505167 | May 01 20:21 |
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| schestowitz | I'm done with Strigi.......... I don't need desktop search and it has been making my system very slow for 1.5 days... too many files in 50GB | May 01 21:09 |
| schestowitz | They should have had it disabled by default like they use to | May 01 21:09 |
| schestowitz | I wish I had disabled it earlier | May 01 21:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Waiting for Bart, I literally sprinted with a suitcase, laptop bag and suit case all the way here made it! | May 01 21:26 | |
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| schestowitz | Hey, satipera | May 01 21:57 |
| schestowitz | I'm posting some links now... | May 01 21:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How #GNU #Linux Already Wins in Smartphones, Servers, HPC, LAN, Etc. http://ur1.ca/ybsl | May 01 21:59 | |
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| satipera | I did not even loose my pgp keys this time so I am a happy chappy (crosses fingers hoping not to discover bad news later on) | May 01 22:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Access Control List University Trains for #GNU #Linux Skillset http://ur1.ca/ybt8 http://ur1.ca/ybt9 | May 01 22:06 | |
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| stan_qaz | I came back with a followup to my suggestion the other day to add a link that would let readers skip past the LInks section to the next article. Since then it was pointed out to me that I could do nearly the same thing by clicking on the link for "clip of the day" now I feel really dumb! On the other hand my problem is solved! | May 01 23:01 |
| Aondo | that article about meego, sugests that microsoft might join that project.. sounds unlikely to me.. | May 01 23:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Great News for #GNU #Linux #Sugar and #ARM on #OLPC Sub-notebooks http://ur1.ca/yc1z http://ur1.ca/yc22 | May 01 23:18 | |
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