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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @davidgerard How the US government works. http://i.imgur.com/o8jCW.pngMay 03 00:20
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Airline Security Fail: http://www.theonion.com/video/reporters-expose-airport-security-lapses-by-blowin,14192/May 03 02:16
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] From the Quran: [2:256] There shall be no compulsion in religion: the right way is now distinct from the wrong (cont) http://tl.gd/14gg35May 03 04:31
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] ♺ @rww: !Ubuntu Open Week starts in 11 hours! Awesome IRC sessions on topics for general Ubu users. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeekMay 03 05:18
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] ♺ @rww: #Ubuntu Open Week starts in 11 hours! Awesome IRC sessions on topics for general Ubu users. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeekMay 03 05:19
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @litemeter: The Politics of Privacy and Information #UID http://desicritics.org/2010/05/02/054859.phpMay 03 05:36
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] Now I'm remembering why I never get drunk. :PMay 03 06:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] [2:191] You may kill those who wage war against you, and you may evict them whence they evicted you. Oppression (cont) http://tl.gd/14hj38May 03 06:10
TechrightsBotTitle: Twitlonger: [2:191] You may kill those who wage war against you, and you may evict them whence they evicted you. .::. Size~: 7.74 KBMay 03 06:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] @omar_s_hafez Hey sparky, just chill out, kick back a couple brewskies, hug people.May 03 06:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Jane Turner likens Aussie hit "Kath & Kim" to Woody Allen's NYC tales(!)... http://ff.im/jJpBmMay 03 06:33
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @sunil_abraham: Why we need the whistle-blowers http://bit.ly/9evkDE we need more protection of whistle-blowers #indiaMay 03 06:42
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @aashiks: Floating point arithmetic - what every programmer should know http://floating-point-gui.de/ :DMay 03 06:44
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @aashiks: George Greve gets knighthood ! http://is.gd/bRH87May 03 06:45
TechrightsBotTitle: freedom bits  » All boys dream of being knights, dont they? .::. Size~: 73.07 KBMay 03 06:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @Devinder_Sharma: Seed Bill 2010 expected in Rajya Sabha 2day. If Parliament does'nt wakeup & stop it, the MNC will control seed supplyMay 03 06:46
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @DaemonFC hey. But exatly are you talking about? :-)May 03 06:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Good morning all, installing #gNewSense 2.1 on Dell OptiPlex GX240. Feels very snappy.May 03 07:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Good morning all, installing !gNewSense 2.1 on Dell OptiPlex GX240. Feels very snappy.May 03 07:01
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Good morning my European friends, how are things today?May 03 07:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Ubuntu Lucid Party - LUG@IITD pics http://post.ly/ebQJMay 03 07:16
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cubezzz"On the day *I* go to work for Microsoft, faint oinking sounds will beMay 03 07:33
cubezzzheard from far overhead, the moon will not merely turn blue butMay 03 07:33
cubezzzdevelop polkadots, and hell will freeze over so solid the brimstoneMay 03 07:33
cubezzzwill go superconductive."May 03 07:33
schestowitzSR?May 03 07:46
schestowitz*ESR?May 03 07:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] http://freerangekids.wordpress.com/2010/04/12/announcing-may-22-take-our-children-to-the-park-and-leave-them-there-day/ http://ff.im/jJyg7May 03 07:47
TechrightsBotTitle: ANNOUNCING MAY 22: TAKE OUR CHILDREN TO THE PARK&AND LEAVE THEM THERE DAY « FreeRangeKids .::. Size~: 161 KBMay 03 07:47
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schestowitzMicrosoft tries to remove FL/OSS luminaries and give the illusion that it's both sides oft he fenceMay 03 07:47
schestowitzIt uses money to stir up the market, through deceptionMay 03 07:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Fwd: On 22 May, Take your kids to the park and...leave them there!... http://ff.im/jJym3May 03 07:48
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MinceRschestowitz: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=208May 03 07:49
TechrightsBotTitle: Armed and Dangerous  » Blog Archive   » Microsoft tries to recruit me .::. Size~: 289.72 KBMay 03 07:49
cubezzzyes, ESR \May 03 07:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Why Nestlé's response to deforestation is inadequate: Too slow! 2015 will be too late. Too vague on promise to... http://ff.im/jJyveMay 03 07:50
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] #Caste & category Profiling in Kerala SSLC Result Database. What does that in a meritocratic society? http://tweetphoto.com/20905733May 03 08:01
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cubezzzmy mouse is possessedMay 03 08:07
cubezzzit's like the scroll wheel works randomlyMay 03 08:08
MinceRon its own?May 03 08:08
cubezzzyeahMay 03 08:08
MinceRis the sun shining on it?May 03 08:09
cubezzzno, it's 2:53 am here :)May 03 08:09
cubezzzok, don't buy bargain bin mousesMay 03 08:10
cubezzzit's a logitech LX3 wheel mouse with black marker over the serial numberMay 03 08:11
MinceR:DMay 03 08:11
cubezzzprobably a factory rejectMay 03 08:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] LUG@IITD is a name, but FOSS@Delhi is its nature and working.May 03 08:12
cubezzzit's the weirdest thing though, it worked correctly for monthsMay 03 08:12
cubezzzand just yesterday it started acting like the mouse from poltergeistMay 03 08:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Here is a new example of fake "open-source": http://ur1.ca/yjes "Try it free for two months at absolutely no restrictions!"May 03 08:13
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schestowitzcubezzz: The ghosts are moving itMay 03 08:13
cubezzzwhatever :)May 03 08:13
schestowitz:-pMay 03 08:13
cubezzzit's gone as of now :)May 03 08:13
schestowitzYou exorcised themMay 03 08:14
cubezzzis there a way to turn off the scroll wheel? then i could use it as a backup mouseMay 03 08:14
schestowitzWith a hammer?May 03 08:14
schestowitzWhen all else fails, use a hammerMay 03 08:15
cubezzzyou know it might be temperature relatedMay 03 08:15
cubezzzit's been really warm the last couple of daysMay 03 08:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] DDB Technologies, a patent company, has sued a host of US sporting leagues (NBA, ESPN, NFL,Yahoo) http://ur1.ca/yjfqMay 03 08:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Behind the open codec FUD attack, W3C captured by Microsoft, Apple, Nokia and so on? http://ur1.ca/yjg4May 03 08:20
TechrightsBotTitle: Behind the open codec FUD attack | Open Source | ZDNet.com .::. Size~: 95.13 KBMay 03 08:20
cubezzzyeah it's the mouse, not the computer, fortunatelyMay 03 08:21
satiperaGood morning all. schestowitz  If you use a hammer on anything technical its name changes to variable pressure application device.May 03 08:37
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgG7obOu5csMay 03 08:46
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schestowitzJust found http://theskepticsguide.org/archive/podcast.aspx?mid=2May 03 08:46
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schestowitzzoobab: I told you the new w3c staff us troubleMay 03 08:49
schestowitzIBM has a chair tooMay 03 08:49
schestowitz /us/is/May 03 08:49
enthymeme:D SGUMay 03 08:49
schestowitzzoobab: http://www.prweb.com/releases/xorcom/howlerG729transcoding/prweb3925774.htmMay 03 08:51
TechrightsBotTitle: G.729 Codec from Howler Technologies Confirmed Interoperable with Xorcom PBX  .::. Size~: 41.83 KBMay 03 08:51
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nru2O316OgYMay 03 09:02
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RT @zoobab: Behind the open codec FUD attack, W3C captured by Microsoft, Apple, Nokia and so on? http://ur1.ca/yjg4May 03 09:02
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cubezzzwell time for AROS attempt #2May 03 09:16
cubezzzthis time I know exactly which ethercard I have in the lappyMay 03 09:16
cubezzzso far AROS looks the most interestingMay 03 09:16
schestowitzHeh. Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0May 03 09:17
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schestowitzQuacksMay 03 09:17
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cubezzzok, let's try the other lappy :-/May 03 09:36
cubezzzbummer, AROS seems a bit rough around the edgesMay 03 09:36
cubezzztrying AROS on the acer 5534 nextMay 03 09:43
schestowitzFrauds being promotes in TV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdrzBL2dHMIMay 03 09:47
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schestowitzcubezzz: is AROS still going?May 03 09:47
schestowitzI rarely hear about itMay 03 09:47
schestowitz_Goblin uses itMay 03 09:47
cubezzzit's still going about it's definitely alpha stillMay 03 09:47
cubezzzabout =butMay 03 09:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Taiwan signals beginnings of adjustment in China US relations. http://is.gd/bRW4wMay 03 09:50
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cubezzzit won't even boot :-/May 03 09:50
cubezzztrying againMay 03 09:50
cubezzzok, now it's booting at leastMay 03 09:55
cubezzzok, if you see cube-aros in here you know I got it workingMay 03 09:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] This is a great skit about pseudo-science: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIaV8swc-foMay 03 09:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] So, max limit of integer in #bash at 64 bit Ubuntu machine 9223372036854775807 http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-925692.htmlMay 03 10:02
TechrightsBotTitle:  [SOLVED] Integer limit?? [Archive]  - Ubuntu Forums .::. Size~: 7.67 KBMay 03 10:02
cubezzzI think I need to research what AROS supportsMay 03 10:02
cubezzzso far I can't get any ethernet goingMay 03 10:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Nuclear powers concentrate on only the non-proliferation side of NPT. Their disarmament ignored again. http://is.gd/bRX2dMay 03 10:06
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MinceRit's not ibm's chair in w3c i'm worried aboutMay 03 10:09
cubezzzthere's a lot of people in #AROS :)May 03 10:09
cubezzzno one's talking thoughMay 03 10:10
MinceRr4wrMay 03 10:10
schestowitzhey, MinceRMay 03 10:14
schestowitzCould you mail me thurs and fri pls?: -)May 03 10:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Paying the patent fee for the Open Source version of the G.729 codec ($25,000 – $30,000), Howlet is GPLv2 + G.729 Royalty http://ur1.ca/yjzpMay 03 10:22
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] is gmail down ??May 03 10:23
MinceRschestowitz: i'll do it in the eveningMay 03 10:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Architect's bid to save 19th century electric car factory. http://is.gd/bRYF6May 03 10:34
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schestowitzthanks so much, MinceR. I'll need to then post 4 days of logs (didn't post Sat and Sun)May 03 10:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] SOS , @MicrosoftSA is following me on twitter ;) #fossMay 03 10:39
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Aphid's color comes From a Fungus gene http://ur1.ca/yk37 !scienceMay 03 10:47
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] SchoolOS is the first distro which is having Ebook for students. Suggest us some more - http://bit.ly/bH3qmX only cc-by-saMay 03 10:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @nsisodiya SOS , @MicrosoftSA is following me on twitter ;) #foss >> same here, one hour agoMay 03 11:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Although you can think on your feet, advanced planning is quit... More for Aquarius http://twittascope.com/?sign=11May 03 11:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @trmanco you spread superstition, I hope just for entertainment purposesMay 03 11:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] any disadvantage for having 3GB live linux iso. booting, burning DVD, burning USB. RAM issue, old PC, #ubuntustudio typeMay 03 11:12
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] ♺ @mmiicc: Mark Shuttleworth new blog post about Window indicators: http://is.gd/bS26S #ubuntuMay 03 11:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Africa Installs #GNU #Linux Desktops for Many Users (North Ghana) http://ur1.ca/yker thanks, @ghabuntuMay 03 11:52
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New USB-based Solution Runs #GNU #Linux to Enable Safe Banking http://ur1.ca/ykglMay 03 11:59
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ZaReason Preinstalls #GNU #Linux , Uses #Ubuntu and Considers #MeeGo http://ur1.ca/ykhoMay 03 12:02
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #NASA 's Nebula Runs #GNU #Linux (So Do Science/Scientists in General) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/28/nebula_goes_to_goddard/May 03 12:04
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I meant Loads of course, not LoansMay 03 12:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How #Linux ( #Kernel Space) Deals Better With High Loans http://ur1.ca/ykmrMay 03 12:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Another minor thing, yesterday I typed "MB" instead of "KB"May 03 12:09
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #PlayOnLinux 3.7.5 and #q4wine 0.118 Released http://ur1.ca/ykvz http://ur1.ca/ykw0May 03 12:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] KDevelop 4.0 Stable is Released http://www.kdenews.org/2010/05/01/kdevelop-40-stable-released-wildMay 03 12:34
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Debian Used in New Device and Gets Support From NorthScale http://ur1.ca/ykxz http://ur1.ca/yky1May 03 12:37
TechrightsBotTitle: DIN rail PC offers choice of field buses - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 60.57 KBMay 03 12:37
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cubezzzthey talk about a9home and iyonix but...May 03 12:37
cubezzzwhere can you buy one?May 03 12:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ArchLinux Remembers Jan Mette http://www.go2linux.org/linux/2010/04/arch-linux-lost-one-its-biggest-contributors-737May 03 12:41
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New List of #Fedora #GNU #Linux 13 Features http://ur1.ca/yl15 bye, #xen http://ur1.ca/yknnMay 03 12:44
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] ML2MST's Glider/Gnu/Linux HD Wallpaper (1920 x 1080) http://twitpic.com/1kmfpuMay 03 12:49
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] ♺ @branchplan: I hate how after 20 or so years, people are still confused about #Linux & open source as a sustainable business.May 03 12:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux Everywhere: NAS Appliances, Pico-projector, Alcatel Phones http://ur1.ca/yl4c http://ur1.ca/yl4d http://ur1.ca/yl4gMay 03 12:58
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Yay for explosive toddler diarrhoea, all over the place, and a distressed and embarrassed Freda! (At least it's not my own poo I'm posting)May 03 12:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Very well designed website: http://nkoehring.de:3000May 03 13:02
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Very happy with #Ubuntu Lucid on my laptop and #KDE. #gNewSense 2.1. seems to be the perfect match for my old desktop. Mood: very happy ;-)May 03 13:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @picturecool How to Make a Baby http://bit.ly/cSNL9T <-- this is hilariousMay 03 13:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Listening to the 16 Bit album "xycvgtb". All (former) Commodore-Amiga fans consider it to be the Holy Grail ;-)May 03 13:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Emergence of #ARM in More Area Good Opportunity for #Linux http://ur1.ca/ylbj http://ur1.ca/ylblMay 03 13:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Oops the correct name is "xycvgtgb" :-pMay 03 13:18
TechrightsBotTitle: Linux firmware released for ARM-based printing SoCs - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 63.68 KBMay 03 13:18
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 'CrunchPad' Reaches the UK, EU http://ur1.ca/ylir http://ur1.ca/ylis http://ur1.ca/ylitMay 03 13:36
TechrightsBotTitle: Fusion Garage launches JooJoo web tablet in UK | Mobile Devices | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 38.95 KBMay 03 13:36
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nokia Has New #SDK to Work With #Qt http://ur1.ca/ylk0 http://ur1.ca/ylk2May 03 13:40
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oiaohmWonder how long until nokia includes a android simulator in QT kit.  schestowitzMay 03 13:42
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MinceRdoes Qt officially support Android now?May 03 13:46
oiaohmNot officially yet.  MinceR.  Lighthouse ( IE development arm of QT) has support for androidMay 03 13:47
MinceRicMay 03 13:47
oiaohmSo its more a matter of time.  MinceRMay 03 13:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Symantec Buys #PGP http://ur1.ca/yllr http://ur1.ca/ylls http://ur1.ca/ylltMay 03 13:48
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Symbian ^3 Toolkit is Out; Mediafront Platform Uses GPLv3 http://ur1.ca/ylme http://ur1.ca/ylmfMay 03 13:51
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Y'know, I'd mostly ignore Conservapedia's existence except they pull shit like this: http://is.gd/bS9CoMay 03 13:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Simon asked me to tweet http://is.gd/bS9By to encourage the gadget show to review #ubuntu 10.04. :-)May 03 13:52
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] You are so naive, no offense. :-) @AhmadFayezMay 03 13:53
oiaohmhttp://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100430/1301469263.shtml Whole heck.  Were does this leave EULA's.  May 03 13:55
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] A early development script of gobotype - http://bit.ly/cksNGD Try out if you want to see Alternate File heirarchyMay 03 13:56
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Computing at a Large Scale Requires #GNU #Linux and #FreeSoftware http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/60636May 03 13:59
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Explanations of the "Free" in #FreeSoftware http://ur1.ca/yc44 http://ur1.ca/ylo1May 03 14:00
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Psst! Why are using Twitter? It uses Linux and PHP! Not stupid Windows and ASP! :D @AhmadFayezMay 03 14:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Welcome to WANK MOUNTAIN! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wank_(mountain)May 03 14:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Psst! Why are you using Twitter? It uses Linux and PHP! Not stupid Windows and ASP! :D @AhmadFayezMay 03 14:11
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cubezzzHAMay 03 14:15
Omar87Hi all.May 03 14:15
cubezzzI did it, I disabled the wheel on the mouseMay 03 14:15
cubezzznow poltermouse is useful againMay 03 14:15
cubezzzhi OmarMay 03 14:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Being #FreeSoftware Essential to Success of Phones, According to Kaspersky http://ur1.ca/ylsdMay 03 14:22
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla Bets Big on #Linux Phones http://ur1.ca/ylsx http://ur1.ca/ylsy http://ur1.ca/ylszMay 03 14:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Company Makes Money from Customising #Moodle http://ur1.ca/ylt0May 03 14:28
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Ahem ahem waiting for a meeting to start .May 03 14:42
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Releases: #GNUtrition , #VirtualBox 3.2.0 Beta, #Squeak 4.1 http://ur1.ca/yly8 http://ur1.ca/yly9 http://ur1.ca/ylyaMay 03 15:00
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Even Fox News takes the piss out of the Conservapedia Bible Project http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Andrew_Schlafly/Colmes_InterviewMay 03 15:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] What I hate about Microsoft is not really Microsoft itself, but rather the evil capitalistic scheme that it represents. #MS #EvilCapitalismMay 03 15:12
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schestowitzOmar87: nice reponse there re TwitterMay 03 15:22
schestowitz"But nobody uses Linux!!"  argh :-)May 03 15:22
cubezzzridiculousMay 03 15:22
schestowitzI'll be back in a momentMay 03 15:23
cubezzzeven if you said "nobody uses AROS" it would still be wrongMay 03 15:24
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*Topic for #boycottnovell is: Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of the freedom-hostileMay 03 15:28
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schestowitz> cubezzz - even if you said "nobody uses AROS" it would still be wrongMay 03 15:37
schestowitz> oiaohm - I see they don't try claiming no one uses freedosMay 03 15:37
schestowitzcubezzz: I meant virtually nobodyMay 03 15:37
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] EPO: a computer program is not excluded from patentability under Art52 if, when running on a computer, it causes a further technical effectMay 03 15:58
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Giving Legitimacy to Microsoft at the Expense of “Open Source” http://ur1.ca/ymdc Gartner, Black Duck, SAP lobby vs FOSS/for MicrosoftMay 03 16:23
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sebsebsebschestowitz: Ubuntu Open Week has just started, maybe your a bit interestedMay 03 16:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Microsoft opt for h264 video format in Internet Explorer, in order to kick other browsers who will be said "incompatible with this website"May 03 16:35
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Another Reason Why #Vista7 Was Released Prematurely http://ur1.ca/ymkp #microsoft #defectivebydesign #gnu #linuxMay 03 16:56
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Actually, no offense, but I don't drink such toxic junk. :-) @DaemonFCMay 03 17:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Another #Microsoft Product Dies Because of #GNU #Linux That Allegedly Replaces It http://ur1.ca/ymsg #slate #deadproductsMay 03 17:23
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Zoiks! Wifey has started looking for venues for #oggcamp next year!May 03 17:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Isn't silly when some people feel insulted when you attack the evil agenda of @BillGates and #Mafiasoft?May 03 17:28
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Just disabled my Facebook account again.May 03 17:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Lunch...May 03 17:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Day one done. Off to the gym.May 03 17:37
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @litemeter: American Library Association celebrating Privacy Week http://www.privacyrevolution.org/ #UID #pr... http://vimeo.com/11399383May 03 17:58
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] As #Google Eats #Microsoft ’s Cash Cow Ballmer Finds New Attack Dogs in Yahoo! http://ur1.ca/yn6g #ooxml #odfMay 03 18:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The ODF Alliance (official coordinator of OpenDocument Format) celebrates anniversary of the international standard http://ur1.ca/yn8pMay 03 18:24
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "The Ian Carey Project - Shot Caller (Radio Edit)" ♫ http://blip.fm/~ppxmpMay 03 18:38
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Benny Benassi - Illusion" ♫ http://blip.fm/~ppxqlMay 03 18:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Download Blender Free - CC-by-sa-nc ebook http://www.cdschools.org/54223045235521/blank/browse.asp?A=383&BMDRN=2000&BCOB=0&C=55205 #blenderMay 03 18:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Red Hot Chili Peppers - My Otherside (Benny Benassi Remix)" ♫ http://blip.fm/~ppxzeMay 03 18:43
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Ziomatrixhas anyone read about this? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/03/apple-may-face-antitrust-_n_560622.htmlMay 03 18:44
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satiperahello allMay 03 19:00
satiperaI need an idiots guide on how to connect to irc channels via an encrypted connection, I am getting a you must use sasl and announceMay 03 19:01
satiperaany help greatly appreciatedMay 03 19:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @aslam: RT @bob_sutor: Blog post: ODF, the OASIS standard, turns 5 http://bit.ly/d5YITxMay 03 19:04
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @rmack: RT @PrivacyDigest: RT @PrivacyLaw Technology Review: "The Changing Nature of #Privacy on #Facebook" http://bit.ly/d1aNKPMay 03 19:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] I had a bad experience with all major mobile providers in india. They simply sucks.May 03 19:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] same here RT: @anivar: I had a bad experience with all major mobile providers in india. They simply sucks.May 03 19:09
satiperaI will be back on IRC when I have worked out how to connect securely, if anyone has found a tutorial that i could not and wishes to help please tweet me, thanks, bye for now.May 03 19:09
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Journey With Novell/Microsoft Moonlight (and How it Broke Firefox While Microsoft Keeps Breaking Antitrust Law) http://ur1.ca/ynjrMay 03 19:11
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] nxt was @tatadocomo, it was not connecting 2 ntwrk from 3 days b4 my wedding reception. pain&loss bcoz circulating it as primary contact noMay 03 19:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] The Day Against DRM - 4 May http://post.ly/egBWMay 03 19:15
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] another @tatadocomo connection i had wrkd well in same place at same phone. they banned outgoing in it aftr few days when i hv 450 std minMay 03 19:18
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_goblinhello allMay 03 19:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] All this happend 2 weeks after taking verification signature from me. Now waiting for the refund after disconnectionMay 03 19:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Now peacefully settled at last with bsnl 3gMay 03 19:28
Ziomatrix_goblin: hiMay 03 19:47
_goblinhiMay 03 19:47
Ziomatrix_goblin: have you heard this yet? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/03/apple-may-face-antitrust-_n_560622.htmlMay 03 19:48
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Ziomatrix_goblin: it stems from their Object C only policy regarding iPod/iPhone applications being accepted onto iTunes and not allowing any transcodingMay 03 19:49
_goblinjust reading now....ive been out of touch for the last few daysMay 03 19:50
_goblinbriefly skimming it Id say, that if the FTC is considering Anti-trust, shouldnt it go after the biggest first (Microsoft).....however on a positive note, it may well make Microsoft consider their actions more carefully in the future if the FTC is gunning for an anti-trust case.May 03 19:52
Omar87hi allMay 03 19:52
_goblinhiMay 03 19:52
_goblinIve got a big upheaval coming soon.....May 03 19:53
_goblinIm movingMay 03 19:53
_goblinfroMay 03 19:53
_goblinfrom bedfordshire to durhamMay 03 19:53
MinceRm$ got out of an antitrust case alreadyMay 03 19:53
MinceRthe megacorps don't get hit in jesuslandMay 03 19:53
ZiomatrixMinceR: amen!May 03 19:54
ZiomatrixMinceR: now pass me the Monsanto genetically altered radioactive pesticide resistent corn on the cobMay 03 19:54
MinceR:>May 03 19:55
*Ziomatrix thinks that tumor of a slab of beef that came from a year old cow pumped up with more hormones that the best of today's NBL and NFL combined tooks mighty yummyMay 03 19:57
ZiomatrixMinceR: but seriously, it seems that Apple was really pushing as though to invite investigators. Maybe if they get the right judges on the case they can set ablaze some "ground breaking" precedents that will put a firmer grasp on companies being able to control what you buy.May 03 19:59
MinceRwe can hopeMay 03 20:00
Ziomatrixin other tech news Nvidia has just said some fighting words against Intel for declaring that Moore's Law should no longer apply to affordable hardware: http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/29/moores-law-computing-processing-opinions-contributors-bill-dally.htmlMay 03 20:01
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] I heartily endorse this. (Speakers of English as a second language already get it right.) http://learnyourdamnhomophones.com/May 03 20:03
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Ziomatrixis it just me or is BNtwitter becoming slightly trollish?May 03 20:06
_goblinnah.....its just echoing what the TR community is saying on Twitter.May 03 20:16
_goblinI like it....saves me from running a twitter client whilst in IRC...May 03 20:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] LXDE and a cloud focus.....Peppermint sounds like a pretty nice project.....I should really take a look. #linux #foss #os #lxdeMay 03 20:20
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] #Microsoft's Courier - AXED ....Thats not like Microsoft to give up before at least pumping a project full of hype and marketing $'s. #failMay 03 20:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Maybe #Microsoft will now just wait for a Google alternative and then "cream a little off the top" with a patent threat? #windows #courierMay 03 20:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] “Behind The Open Codec #FUD Attack, W3C Captured by #Microsoft , #Apple , #Nokia and So On?” http://ur1.ca/ynzg #swpatsMay 03 20:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @_Goblin ya know, everyone I can think of wanted a Courier. Trouble is it's 3 yrs off by Moore's Law at the necessary pricepoint.May 03 20:25
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @_goblin #Microsoft's Courier - AXED ....Thats not like Microsoft to give up before at least pumping a project full of hype and marketingMay 03 20:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] It seems @ladygaga is responsible for jihad. http://is.gd/bSCfDMay 03 20:37
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Diablo-D3http://www.tuaw.com/2010/05/03/apple-spurs-an-antitrust-investigation/May 03 20:39
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DaemonFChmmm, Silverex's XChat has more problems on XP now than it does on Vista and 7May 03 20:41
DaemonFCschestowitz: I finally went and bought a Blu Ray player cause I got a deal on it where it was only about $10 more than an upconverting DVD player, which is what I'll mainly use it for anywayMay 03 20:42
DaemonFCthey seem to be basically giving away the players at barely above cost to get their installed base upMay 03 20:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Time to slap the chiropractors (happily performing bogus treatments with not a jot of evidence) down again http://is.gd/bSCZkMay 03 20:49
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DaemonFCcar battery prices have skyrocketedMay 03 20:49
DaemonFClast time I bought one I think it cost me $40, and today a battery with the same CCA rating cost me $77May 03 20:50
DaemonFCprobably some government environmental crapMay 03 20:50
DaemonFCshit rolls downhillMay 03 20:50
DaemonFCthey already made the companies neutralize the battery acid and recycle the lead, what more could they have done?May 03 20:51
DaemonFCprobably nothing but increase their taxesMay 03 20:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @davidgerard I would have like to have seen it released....the Zune jokes won't stay funny forever....May 03 20:53
DaemonFCschestowitz: Walmart is no longer selling the Zune it seemsMay 03 20:54
DaemonFCI was just there and it's now ipod in one display and all the others in another displayMay 03 20:54
DaemonFCI didn't see any shelf space for ZuneMay 03 20:54
DaemonFCthey still have some Zune branded stuff in the accessories aisleMay 03 20:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @_Goblin yeah, the kin jokes died after a week ;-p http://is.gd/bSDnm was my fifth most popular article for March!May 03 20:55
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DaemonFCI think they might be giving up on Zune (Walmart that is)May 03 20:55
DaemonFCthey might know more about Microsoft's future plans for it than the general public and trying to get out while they canMay 03 20:55
DaemonFCclear inventory without clearancing it :)May 03 20:55
DaemonFCWalmart hates clearancing things and will try anything to avoid itMay 03 20:56
DaemonFCso do the managers there, it eats into their bonus as the items sell at a lossMay 03 20:57
DaemonFCevery dollar lost from clearancing something comes right out of the bonus poolMay 03 20:57
DaemonFCsame as if that much merchandise was stolenMay 03 20:58
DaemonFCyou have a "clearance budget", but that's just an accounting trick, it still comes out of your bonus, but if you go further than the alloted budget it continues to come out of the bonus pool and affects the management evaluations, raises, and promotion prospectsMay 03 20:59
DaemonFCall that is just a weighted system there, where everything puts some weight towards or against your future with the company B-)May 03 21:00
DaemonFCit's quite evilMay 03 21:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @davidgerard and what with no recent stage appearances of Ballmer to laugh at, #microsoft IMO needs some new material.May 03 21:03
MinceRwhy not find a better job?May 03 21:03
DaemonFCMinceR, If you're a good manager by their standards which are stupid, you'll go far and make a truckload of cashMay 03 21:04
DaemonFCif you're a person like me, you'll be stuck as an assistant manager forever and eventually be pay cappedMay 03 21:04
MinceRi'm not a managerMay 03 21:04
DaemonFC:)May 03 21:04
MinceRi'm a software engineer :>May 03 21:04
DaemonFCMinceR, They don't consider the long term future and greater goodMay 03 21:05
DaemonFCthey do whatever makes their numbers within this quarter look goodMay 03 21:05
DaemonFCeven if it makes sustained progress more difficult :)May 03 21:05
MinceRso they're a typical jesuslandian megacorp? :>May 03 21:05
DaemonFCstuffed suits? then yesMay 03 21:05
DaemonFCas sales fall, they're falling back to what they knowMay 03 21:06
DaemonFClure the customers with advertisingMay 03 21:06
DaemonFCbribe the customer with great deals on a few loss leadersMay 03 21:07
DaemonFChope they buy more crap while they are thereMay 03 21:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Any software program can be attacked either by patent trolls, or by big companies wanting to stomp out competition http://ur1.ca/yob0May 03 21:07
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DaemonFCMinceR, What they will get is more customer traffic, those customers will mostly cherry pick the loss leaders, their net sales stay flatMay 03 21:08
DaemonFCthey never do learnMay 03 21:08
DaemonFCif insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting better results, Walmart is terminally insaneMay 03 21:08
DaemonFCthey're not as bad as Microsoft thoughMay 03 21:10
DaemonFCeven Walmart will throw a stinker overboard after years of failing to sell themMay 03 21:10
DaemonFCthe reason the years passed with Zune is due to bribesMay 03 21:10
DaemonFCthe bribes must be drying up nowMay 03 21:11
DaemonFCbribe money is as good as sale moneyMay 03 21:11
DaemonFC;)May 03 21:11
DaemonFCeach store was "renting" display space to Microsoft, and the "rent" was contingent on salesMay 03 21:11
DaemonFCso Microsoft was essentially promising that if Walmart wasn't selling Zunes, then Microsoft would adjust the "rent" to compensate them for the lossMay 03 21:12
DaemonFCI know this because the "rent" appeared on the P&L report for the store each month, and fluctuatedMay 03 21:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] AXED – Microsoft’s courier? – Too bad, the Zune jokes are wearing thin http://tinyurl.com/39pjwfp #microsoft #zune #courier #mvp #failMay 03 21:13
TechrightsBotTitle: AXED  Microsofts courier?  Too bad, the Zune jokes are wearing thin. « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 32.85 KBMay 03 21:13
DaemonFCI was curious enough to look at corresponding monthly Zune sales, and noticed the correlationMay 03 21:13
DaemonFCit's not unique though, the same deals go for video game consolesMay 03 21:13
schestowitzHi, DaemonFCMay 03 21:14
schestowitzHold on.....May 03 21:14
DaemonFCMinceR, It's a clever way around dumping lawsMay 03 21:14
_goblinHi Roy....May 03 21:14
DaemonFCor predatory pricingMay 03 21:14
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Microsoft was bribing Walmart with sufficient rent to keep every store at a 10% net profit on ZuneMay 03 21:15
DaemonFCeven if no Zune units were soldMay 03 21:15
DaemonFCApple pays much less rent because ipod sellsMay 03 21:15
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DaemonFCApple never has to pay more than the base rentMay 03 21:16
schestowitz[20:39] <Diablo-D3> http://www.tuaw.com/2010/05/03/apple-spurs-an-antitrust-investigation/May 03 21:16
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DaemonFCthough they signed the same agreementMay 03 21:16
schestowitzLet's see if Groklaw takes FTC's sideMay 03 21:17
schestowitz[20:54] <DaemonFC> they still have some Zune branded stuff in the accessories aisleMay 03 21:17
DaemonFCschestowitz: Walmart also lowered their oil change prices I noticedMay 03 21:17
schestowitzIs it in their online catalog (if they have any)?May 03 21:18
DaemonFCback down to $15 from $23May 03 21:18
DaemonFCtheir website?May 03 21:18
DaemonFCI don't know Walmart.com policy, schestowitzMay 03 21:18
DaemonFCIt's ran as a different companyMay 03 21:18
DaemonFCa subsidiary May 03 21:19
DaemonFCthe only relationship between the store and website is that the website is tied into the store inventories and can tell you if that item you are looking at is in stock at your local storeMay 03 21:19
DaemonFCand you can ship to the store from the website for freeMay 03 21:20
DaemonFCit ends up on the store's daily trucksMay 03 21:20
DaemonFCstore gets a certain amount of money at the website's expense when this happensMay 03 21:20
DaemonFCstore managers love site to store because it's guaranteed profitMay 03 21:21
DaemonFCall going towards their bonus moneyMay 03 21:21
DaemonFCbut it's an on-paper thing, the company is taking money from itself to pay itselfMay 03 21:21
DaemonFClike if I put money from my savings into my checking accountMay 03 21:22
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] If people fear patent suits for using Theora, then they will also fear patents suits for using H264 http://ur1.ca/ymegMay 03 21:30
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Under the Fair Credit Reporting Act of 1978, a creditor cannot make threats that they do not intend to follow up on.May 03 21:31
DaemonFCIt would be nice if companies and patent litigation had a similar provisionMay 03 21:31
DaemonFCIf a bill collector says they intend to sue me for nonpayment, and they don't file the lawsuit that month, I can sue themMay 03 21:32
DaemonFCI think patent and copyright lawsuits should be like thatMay 03 21:33
DaemonFCif Microsoft threatens a lawsuit and doesn't immediately back up the threat, the person they threatened can sue themMay 03 21:33
DaemonFCor exampleMay 03 21:33
DaemonFC*forMay 03 21:34
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DaemonFCI believe Indiana has a law like this at state levelMay 03 21:34
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DaemonFCif I sent a letter to my landlord threatening a lawsuit and don't immediately file one, he can sue me and go for up to $5,000 in damagesMay 03 21:35
DaemonFCfor exampleMay 03 21:35
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DaemonFCas it should beMay 03 21:36
DaemonFCthreatening a lawsuit with no intention to file one is harassmentMay 03 21:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] SCO-Type Libel, Acacia-Type Patent Trolls, and Novell-Type Patent Deals to Make GNU/Linux Not Free (Gratis) http://ur1.ca/yojk #swpatsMay 03 21:37
TechrightsBotTitle: Behind the Microsoft Puppetmaster: SCO-Type Libel, Acacia-Type Patent Trolls, and Novell-Type Patent Deals to Make GNU/Linux Not Free (Gratis) | Techrights .::. Size~: 91.73 KBMay 03 21:37
sebsebsebDaemonFC: shame Plymouth doesn't work well with propritary Nivida driverMay 03 21:48
sebsebsebor ATIMay 03 21:48
sebsebsebor at least not in Ubuntu anywayMay 03 21:48
DaemonFCsebsebseb, The ati open source driver is not stagnate, but they are not adding the features I wantMay 03 21:49
sebsebsebDaemonFC: They as in?May 03 21:49
sebsebseband stagnate means?May 03 21:49
sebsebsebI got to mess around with editing Grub 2 and such to get Plymouth to work properly with proprtiary Nivida driver installed on other computer, it seemsMay 03 21:50
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DaemonFCsebsebseb, They're spending more time adding things like Display Port and less time on optimizing OpenGL support and performanceMay 03 21:58
DaemonFCI guess that's not part of the driver exactlyMay 03 21:58
sebsebsebwho is they?May 03 21:58
sebsebsebwell Thy'reMay 03 21:59
sebsebsebThey'reMay 03 21:59
DaemonFCbut Mesa still does a lousy OpenGL job with the ati driverMay 03 21:59
sebsebsebwell no TheyMay 03 21:59
sebsebsebWho is they?May 03 21:59
DaemonFCI guess my main bitch is MesaMay 03 21:59
sebsebsebright well propritary driversMay 03 21:59
DaemonFCtoo slow, not enough OpenGL featuresMay 03 21:59
sebsebsebaren't supporting Plymouth properly or at least in UbuntuMay 03 21:59
sebsebsebDaemonFC: I got loads of weird issuesMay 03 22:00
DaemonFCthe ati open source driver part by itself is pretty complete and stable and fastMay 03 22:00
DaemonFCbut Mesa is crippling itMay 03 22:00
sebsebsebfor now I got that driver disabled not installed IM eanMay 03 22:00
sebsebseb,but when Plymouth does work on there it's like wowMay 03 22:00
sebsebsebshows for like 3 seconds or soMay 03 22:00
sebsebsebit's so quick, that it's already loading up the cursour thing that KDM and Ubuntu/Gnome will use once logged inMay 03 22:00
sebsebsebso boot up is rather awesomeMay 03 22:01
sebsebseband really fastMay 03 22:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Dear #Google : Please Abolish Software Patents, Don’t ‘Donate’ Patent ‘Protection’ http://ur1.ca/yon8 #swpatsMay 03 22:01
TechrightsBotTitle: Dear Google: Please Abolish Software Patents, Dont Donate Patent Protection | Techrights .::. Size~: 85.25 KBMay 03 22:01
schestowitz> [21:15] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: Microsoft was bribing Walmart with sufficient rent to keep every store at a 10% net profit on ZuneMay 03 22:06
schestowitzGot proof?May 03 22:06
ender2070schestowitz - likely he doesntMay 03 22:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @schestowitz: I find it very puzzling that they give up so easily > you mean HTC? Or Google?May 03 22:11
schestowitzender2070: yeah :-)May 03 22:12
schestowitzzoobab: see what the Microsoft boosters are saying: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=2086May 03 22:16
schestowitzBott is like a Microsoft employeeMay 03 22:16
TechrightsBotTitle: Ogg versus the world: don't fall for open-source FUD | Ed Botts Microsoft Report | ZDNet.com .::. Size~: 121.5 KBMay 03 22:17
_goblinNight all.....early night for me....May 03 22:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] I think Im going to have an early night... Got an article published despite being very busy over the last week....May 03 22:17
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schestowitzzoobab: http://www.drdobbs.com/blog/archives/2010/05/growth_market_i.html;jsessionid=FDOGHWWIL331FQE1GHPCKHWATMY32JVNMay 03 22:19
TechrightsBotTitle: C++, Development Tools, Java, Open Source, Web... the world of software development from Dr Dobb's .::. Size~: 69.6 KBMay 03 22:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Rumour has it that rooms at Ubuntu Dev Summit have an unfrosted window to shower with curtain on bedroom side. Should be fun huh @daviey :)May 03 22:23
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schestowitz"Good ol' Roy Schestowitz continues the quest for truth over at a new site, techrights.org. And while pursuing the latest scoop on Microsoft's continued puppetry of the media, a lightning bolt suddenly hit me. " http://penguinpetes.com/b2evo/index.php?title=isn_t_it_strange_that_microsoft_only_sin&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1May 03 22:29
TechrightsBotTitle: Penguin Pete's Blog .::. Size~: 22.53 KBMay 03 22:29
ender2070the microoft guy is an idiotMay 03 22:29
ender2070(Bott)May 03 22:30
ender2070http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12354-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=80404&messageID=1551742May 03 22:30
TechrightsBotTitle: Ogg versus the world: don't fall for open-source FUD | TalkBack on ZDNet .::. Size~: 82.84 KBMay 03 22:30
ender2070he clearly has a ms agendaMay 03 22:30
ender2070the talkback is from the fsfMay 03 22:30
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] news says flights to ireland affected by ash, hope @czajkowski gets home okay!May 03 22:32
schestowitzHeh. BN domain is still1900th for traffic. http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http%3A%2F%2Fboycottnovell.com%2Fwiki%2Findex.php%2FGNU%2FLinux_Market_ShareMay 03 22:33
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schestowitzender2070: he doesMay 03 22:33
schestowitzYou don't know Bott?May 03 22:33
schestowitzHe's like a Microsoft employee working for the outside for a long timeMay 03 22:33
schestowitzhttp://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=6393May 03 22:34
TechrightsBotTitle: Behind the open codec FUD attack | Open Source | ZDNet.com .::. Size~: 94.98 KBMay 03 22:34
schestowitzANd this Windows user is like the most 'pro' FOSS there is on ZDNetMay 03 22:34
schestowitzZDNet is a jokeMay 03 22:34
ender2070i was just reading http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=2095&page=3&tag=col1;tbToolsMay 03 22:36
TechrightsBotTitle: Microsoft fires back at critics of its HTML5 strategy | Ed Botts Microsoft Report | ZDNet.com .::. Size~: 128.04 KBMay 03 22:36
ender2070yeah how is he not working for them?May 03 22:36
ender2070who says the MPEG-LA is a good organization?May 03 22:36
MinceRthe members of MPEG LAMay 03 22:37
MinceRobviouslyMay 03 22:37
ender2070yeah exactlyMay 03 22:39
schestowitzender2070: http://www.google.com/search?q=site:techrights.org+bott&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8&hl=en-GBMay 03 22:40
TechrightsBotTitle: site:techrights.org bott - Google Search .::. Size~: 25.46 KBMay 03 22:40
schestowitzhttp://linuxdunyasi.net/?p=20343May 03 22:43
TechrightsBotTitle: Sean Finney: Nouveau, Gallium3D, and Compiz on Debian | Linux world-News Update From Thousand Source .::. Size~: 73.68 KBMay 03 22:43
schestowitzThis guy is l33tMay 03 22:44
schestowitzhttp://smspillaz.wordpress.com/2010/05/02/a-shout-out-to-nouveau/May 03 22:46
TechrightsBotTitle: A shout-out to nouveau « SmSpillaz Blog .::. Size~: 18.62 KBMay 03 22:46
schestowitz"They basically wrote a driver for an incredibly complicated piece of hardware, completely through memory trace dumps, with no help from nvidia whatsoever and can operate the 3D engine so well that one of the world’s most awesome pieces of software runs on it. So from now on, I will no longer be using the binary nvidia driver, but instead nouveau, since it offers exactly what I need + next gen linux graphics technologies such as May 03 22:46
schestowitzKMS, XRandR1.2 and G3D. Win Win Win."May 03 22:46
schestowitzhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1603966/we-linux-tablet-videoMay 03 22:46
TechrightsBotTitle:                     We have an early linux tablet video - The Inquirer          .::. Size~: 69.73 KBMay 03 22:46
schestowitzOh GAWD!!May 03 22:48
schestowitzhttp://robinzrants.wordpress.com/2010/05/02/have-debian-forks-hurt-debian/May 03 22:48
TechrightsBotTitle: Have Debian Forks Hurt Debian? « Robin's Rants & Raves .::. Size~: 24.93 KBMay 03 22:48
schestowitzThis troll againMay 03 22:48
schestowitzAlso feeding the Microsofter who did the Debian thing the other day (in his comments... long story)May 03 22:49
schestowitzhttp://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/05/03/its-the-fat-that-makes-you-look-fat/May 03 22:51
TechrightsBotTitle: Its the fat that makes you look fat « Motho ke motho ka botho .::. Size~: 54.72 KBMay 03 22:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #KDE 4.x feels smoother and more polished every few months. It's better than KDE 3.x even was. Give it a go if you haven't.May 03 23:00
schestowitz /even/ever/May 03 23:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @carlopiana: in other words, patent trolls aren't a pathology of #swpats, but a natural consequence of the system. Not a bug, a featureMay 03 23:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] In political terms, @BytePatent feels like what's known as "infiltrator", coming to #swpat (vs swpats) to provoke or to spyMay 03 23:13
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schestowitzCharlie Rose being such a loser: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheBigPicture/~3/SXum7jti2iI/May 03 23:16
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schestowitzPR for GSMay 03 23:16
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] ♺ @glynmoody: Apple effectively sues itself for patent infringement - http://bit.ly/awGA0I this is just bonkers (via @chrisblizzard)May 03 23:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Video: Benjamin Henrion tinkers with Belgabox hardware http://ur1.ca/yp4m #ffii #swpatMay 03 23:22
TechrightsBotTitle: The Prior Art: Patent Litigation Weekly: MobileMedia's Unusual Patent Infringement Campaign .::. Size~: 48.28 KBMay 03 23:22
TechrightsBotTitle: Benjamin Henrion tinkers with Belgabox hardware « Sköne Oke .::. Size~: 16.39 KBMay 03 23:22
MinceRgnMay 03 23:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[aondo] Testing #archlinux within #kvm always fun with new environment. considering putting it on my slow laptop from the stone age.May 03 23:33
schestowitzSutor's doesn't give a dog's b**s about freedomMay 03 23:33
schestowitzhttp://www.sutor.com/c/2010/05/e-books-on-the-apple-ipad/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BobSutor+%28Bob+Sutor%29May 03 23:33
TechrightsBotTitle: Getting started with e-books on the Apple iPad | Blog | Bob Sutor .::. Size~: 56.6 KBMay 03 23:33
schestowitz*Sutor doesn'tMay 03 23:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @aondo I almost installed it, but then @trmanco mentioned manualsMay 03 23:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @remin High Priority Free Software Projects #fsf #gnu #linux http://ur1.ca/yjp8 > last modified April 23, 2010May 03 23:43
TechrightsBotTitle: High Priority Free Software Projects &mdash; Free Software Foundation .::. Size~: 40.72 KBMay 03 23:43
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Ryan__I'm pissing the downstairs neighbors offMay 03 23:51
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DaemonFCput the subwoofers on the floor and blasting some music with lots of bassMay 03 23:52
DaemonFCthis is when that guy is trying to sleepMay 03 23:53
DaemonFC:)May 03 23:53

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