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schestowitzEU problems... http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_PORTUGAL_FINANCIAL_CRISIS?SITE=CAANG&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULTMay 06 00:00
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schestowitzCronyism http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/05/is_jp_morgans_james_glassman_a.htmlMay 06 00:00
DaemonFCschestowitz: I got a snag with that Blu Ray playerMay 06 00:00
ThistleWebDaemonFC: that was his right hand manMay 06 00:00
DaemonFCit won't just accept ANY wifi adapterMay 06 00:00
DaemonFChas to be a Samsung labeled oneMay 06 00:00
DaemonFC:PMay 06 00:00
DaemonFCso I ended up running a 20 foot ethernet cable to itMay 06 00:01
ThistleWebfor when the stress gets to him, he can relieve it with someone else's right handMay 06 00:01
DaemonFCThistleWeb, Those guys go for hundreds or thousands of dollars per hour in some casesMay 06 00:01
DaemonFChe must have been a proficient luggage holder wouldn't you agree?May 06 00:01
DaemonFC:DMay 06 00:01
ThistleWebyeah, skilled bag holderMay 06 00:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NewsTechnica: Tories defend right of gay demons to vote Tory http://newstechnica.com/?p=2125May 06 00:03
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schestowitzHeh.May 06 00:05
schestowitzI reckon, tea beggars [sic] are thinking they are "God"May 06 00:05
schestowitz"God hates fags" they say in banners, reflecting own prejudices and bibles they wroteMay 06 00:06
schestowitzAnd then they say "god bless America", but they mean USMay 06 00:06
schestowitzAs in, "to hell with Mexicans... Mexico is not America"May 06 00:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Reasons to vote Pirate: Cheryl Cole could go back to stacking shelves for a living.May 06 00:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Think! http://yfrog.com/jncm8hj The "our only hope" is that of Rebekah Brooks and Dominic Mohan not to be down the DSS Friday morning.May 06 00:14
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] There is a significant delay in #ubuntu between a tweet appearing as a notification bubble, and gwibber updating. Frustratingly so.May 06 00:18
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Your super soaraway NewsTechnica cut-out-and-paste election guide! http://newstechnica.com/?p=2136 #ge2010May 06 00:59
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MinceRgnMay 06 00:59
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Ender2070openbsd *drool*May 06 01:27
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evoncan i get help with systemrescuecd here?May 06 01:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] farkin' ell, it's 1:20am and I'm already on election fever tenterhooks. we can't even VOTE for another 5h40m.May 06 01:39
Ender2070im gonna test it out, it has a wifi driver for my notebook nowMay 06 01:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] everyone should retweet my Sun front cover dammit http://newstechnica.com/?p=2136May 06 01:41
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[aondo] The Humble Indie Bundle (pay what you want for five awesome indie games) http://bit.ly/9KASXzMay 06 01:51
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Canada needs to outlaw tasers and expel #Taser International from the country. #rcmp http://ff.im/jTjQTMay 06 02:16
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Chips_B_MalroyHi allMay 06 03:06
Chips_B_MalroyThe day has arrived of Android TabletsMay 06 03:06
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=7%22+Netbook+Android&_sop=15&_rdc=1    528 results, not badMay 06 03:07
TechrightsBotTitle: 7 Netbook Android, Computers Networking, Electronics items. Great deals on eBay! .::. Size~: 114.28 KBMay 06 03:07
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Chips_B_Malroycheck the specs on this one  http://cgi.ebay.com/Google-Android-7-notebook-Netbook-Tablet-PC-UMPC-MID-/280502061065?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item414f39c809May 06 03:08
TechrightsBotTitle: Google Android 7" notebook Netbook Tablet PC UMPC MID - eBay (item 280502061065 end time  May-08-10 18:37:42 PDT) .::. Size~: 105.59 KBMay 06 03:08
Chips_B_MalroyHardware   Performance  Processor   CPU600MHz  Processor frequency   600 MHZ  Memory   FAST EPC DDR 128MB  Built-NandFlash   2G NAND FLASH  Expansion storage devices   TF card, Flash Drives (UP to 32GB)  LCD display   7 “TFT touch screen, 800 × 480  Touch   Touch Screen  Internet support   WIFI wireless Internet access to support  USB   2 X USB  Audio   Built-in stereo speakers  Battery   1600mAH, 7.4May 06 03:08
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Chips_B_MalroyIpad and Windose killersMay 06 03:09
Chips_B_MalroyBattery time is only 2 hours, wonder if its ARMMay 06 03:12
Chips_B_MalroyNot sure all these are ARM.  But Android is sure starting in a big way now on EbayMay 06 03:18
Chips_B_MalroyHow much better will Chome be?May 06 03:18
Chips_B_MalroyThis does point out the race to the bottom in computer hardware sales that will be a problem for both MS and Apple.  Or should I say a worse problem than it already is.May 06 03:19
tessierBut good for us!May 06 03:20
Chips_B_MalroyPrice is dropping on the floorMay 06 03:20
Chips_B_Malroyyes, good for usMay 06 03:20
Chips_B_Malroywould you buy an Ipad for $500 when you could buy an 7" Tablet with 600 mhz processor and Android for $139 with  free shipping buy it now?May 06 03:22
tessierBut can I? Got a link?May 06 03:22
Chips_B_Malroyyes, hold onMay 06 03:23
Chips_B_MalroyTessier> I don't think they are ARMMay 06 03:23
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://cgi.ebay.com/Google-Android-7-notebook-Netbook-Tablet-PC-UMPC-MID-/170476228650?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item27b12cd02aMay 06 03:24
TechrightsBotTitle: Google Android 7" notebook Netbook Tablet PC UMPC MID - eBay (item 170476228650 end time  May-21-10 18:15:41 PDT) .::. Size~: 113.34 KBMay 06 03:24
Chips_B_Malroy$139 totalMay 06 03:24
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Chips_B_Malroychinese stuff is cheapMay 06 03:27
tessierDoes this thing connect to some sort of Android store or something?May 06 03:27
tessierBattery UP TO 2 hours? That's no good.May 06 03:27
Chips_B_Malroyyes, I said thatMay 06 03:28
tessierIt doesn't have 3G either it looks like.May 06 03:28
Chips_B_Malroymust be an intel cpu, I thinkMay 06 03:28
Chips_B_Malroybut maybe notMay 06 03:28
Chips_B_Malroywhat do you want for $139 buy it now, shipping included?May 06 03:29
tessierSo...yeah. I think we see why one would pay $500 for an Ipad.May 06 03:29
Chips_B_Malroywonder if it has usbMay 06 03:29
Chips_B_Malroythe cheap netbooks didMay 06 03:30
Chips_B_Malroybut they were ARM cpu in thoseMay 06 03:30
Chips_B_Malroywith 4 or 5 hoursMay 06 03:30
Chips_B_Malroybut only 300 mhz cpu ARM in the netbooksMay 06 03:31
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Chips_B_MalroyMany people will just go for the cheapest productMay 06 03:31
tessierAnd then realize it is crap.May 06 03:32
tessierAnd be jealous of their friends Ipads.May 06 03:32
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Chips_B_MalroyAnyone know if there is malware already for Windows CE?May 06 03:32
tessierLinux boxes are cheaper than Windows boxes. Unfortunately we have not yet seen the Linux desktop explosionMay 06 03:32
Chips_B_Malroyin a way Android is linuxMay 06 03:32
Chips_B_MalroyMy guess is that Chrome OS will compete agressively with Windows CE.  Unless MS can make a Windows NT for ARM that actually works, and bring the benefits of Malware to ARMMay 06 03:34
tessierSort of not really.May 06 03:34
tessierAndroid is more Java than Linux.May 06 03:34
Chips_B_MalroykernelMay 06 03:34
Chips_B_Malroybut I agreeMay 06 03:35
Chips_B_MalroySomeone once told me who made a lot of money in real estate, that there is a market for almost everything, if it is priced right.  These Tablets, while not great, are priced rightMay 06 03:37
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Aondoi have big hopes for MeeGo :DMay 06 03:38
Aondoreally hope that will take offMay 06 03:39
Aondowith not too many binary blobs in itMay 06 03:39
DaemonFChmmm, upconverted DVD does look goodMay 06 03:39
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.securelist.com/en/analysis?pubid=200119916May 06 03:40
TechrightsBotTitle: Mobile Malware Evolution: An Overview, Part 1 - Securelist .::. Size~: 65.84 KBMay 06 03:40
Chips_B_Malroymalware for windows CeMay 06 03:40
Chips_B_Malroy"However, it’s inevitable that propagation via MMS will eventually become the most common method of propagation for mobile malware. This is all the more likely because there is already a serious known MMS handling vulnerability in Windows Mobile 2003, which leads to a buffer overflow and the execution of arbitrary code. The vulnerability was reported by Collin Mulliner in August 2006 at the DefCon conference.  DemMay 06 03:44
Chips_B_Malroyeven on phones, Windows CE/Moble is a malware target, just like Windows on computersMay 06 03:45
Chips_B_Malroy"The former Soviet Union also gained a place in the history of mobile malware by creating four viruses. Three of them were proof of concept. Brador, the first backdoor for WinCE was created by a programmer from Ukraine, who goes under the pseudonym BrokenSword. Comwar, which we’ve devoted a lot of space to in this article, was undoubtedly created in Russia"May 06 03:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] أصبحنا و أصبح الملك لله. لا إله إلا الله وحده ﻻ شريك له. له الملك و له الحمد يحيي و يميت, بيده الخير و هو على كل شيء قدير.May 06 03:47
Chips_B_MalroyWindows, unsafe from malware in any form, CE or NT, 9xMay 06 03:48
Chips_B_MalroyTo be fair, Symbian OS is the leader in malware on phones, due to it being the leaderMay 06 03:49
Chips_B_Malroywith CE being the runner upMay 06 03:49
Chips_B_MalroyMaybe its time to educate the people who read and listen, that CE/Mobile/Phone7 is just another Malware target, and a really bad OS on a computer?May 06 03:51
Chips_B_Malroyanybody remember the old Windows "CeMeNT" graphic joke?May 06 03:53
Chips_B_Malroycould that be the OS that Mary Jo is refering to?May 06 03:54
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/65154,windows-ce-wide-open-to-mobile-malware.aspx    " Windows CE wide open to mobile malware NEWS Windows CE wide open to mobile malware by Robert Jaques  on Oct 12, 2006 Tags: Windows | CE | wide | open | to | mobile | malware Kaspersky Lab issues warning that will make Microsoft WinCE. Kaspersky Lab issues warning that will make Microsoft WinCE.  Microsoft's Windows CE is "extreMay 06 03:56
TechrightsBotTitle: Windows CE wide open to mobile malware - News - PC Authority .::. Size~: 92.88 KBMay 06 03:56
Chips_B_Malroyyes, the link is a bit old, but so are the versions of CE being put on these ARM Netbooks tooMay 06 03:57
Chips_B_Malroy"A new report from Kaspersky Lab said that Windows CE is wide open because it has no restrictions on executable applications and their processes."   May 06 03:59
DaemonFChmmm, seems I'm paid up to the 17th with ComcastMay 06 04:05
DaemonFC:PMay 06 04:05
DaemonFCoh well, gives AT&T some room to mess upMay 06 04:05
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://cgi.ebay.com/Google-Android-7-notebook-Netbook-Tablet-PC-UMPC-MID-/280502061063?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item414f39c807    not sure if differnet from the buy it now one.  This one has VIA cpu, fairly sure its ARM too.  2 USB ports, Android 1.5 where some have 1.6.  TouchscreenMay 06 04:40
TechrightsBotTitle: Google Android 7" notebook Netbook Tablet PC UMPC MID - eBay (item 280502061063 end time  May-08-10 16:37:22 PDT) .::. Size~: 105.61 KBMay 06 04:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Ongoing Zuckerpunching of your privacy at #Facebook... http://ff.im/jTE6dMay 06 04:55
TechrightsBotTitle: Ongoing Zuckerpunching of your privacy at... - Toby Thain - FriendFeed .::. Size~: 6.93 KBMay 06 04:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] New Blog Post | Running Nautilus Outside Of Gnome | The Digital Prism http://tinyurl.com/2vy89txMay 06 05:04
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Chips_B_Malroythe better ARM Tablet at $302 with CE, Android, Ubuntu  http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Smart-V7-7-Tablet-PC-Linux-HDMI-SDHC-WIFI-MID-UMPC-/280492563496?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item414ea8dc28May 06 05:14
TechrightsBotTitle: New Smart V7 7" Tablet PC Linux HDMI SDHC WIFI MID UMPC - eBay (item 280492563496 end time  May-12-10 20:10:02 PDT) .::. Size~: 161.99 KBMay 06 05:14
Chips_B_Malroyand it has a big battery in itMay 06 05:15
DaemonFChehMay 06 05:19
DaemonFCPolymorphMay 06 05:19
DaemonFC:DMay 06 05:19
DaemonFCgood episodeMay 06 05:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Good morning everyone!May 06 05:27
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DaemonFCDuane Dibley!May 06 05:33
DaemonFCthe Duke of DorkMay 06 05:33
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DaemonFCthat was funnyMay 06 05:44
DaemonFCthey must have put that in later, the VHS didn't have that partMay 06 05:44
DaemonFC"The second Polymorph was not as smart as the first and hid in Lister's clean underwear drawer, where it died of old age many years later"May 06 05:45
DaemonFCroflMay 06 05:45
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DaemonFCwonder where I can get a bicycle decal that says "Starbug" on itMay 06 05:47
DaemonFClolMay 06 05:47
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RT @kiruba: My column in today's Financial Express pits the Google NexusOne phone against iPhone. Surprising results. http://is.gd/bWj3RMay 06 06:01
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/sjvn/statuses/13443968034 "Bill Gates Senior, who's in his 80s, hasn't been involved with his old firm, K&L Gates, in ages." Hmm, is that so?May 06 06:29
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schestowitzhttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Aigo-N700-and-Compal-NAX10-and-Compal-APA0x/?kc=rssMay 06 07:00
TechrightsBotTitle: Tegra-based Android tablets run 1080p video - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 66.22 KBMay 06 07:00
schestowitzHere they come...May 06 07:00
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nickballard] My review of #ArchLinux http://nickballard.wordpress.com/2010/05/06/arch-linux-kde-4-4-2/May 06 07:15
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuxMJ8lnYA4May 06 07:27
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DaemonFCmy Blu Ray player runs LinuxMay 06 07:31
DaemonFClolMay 06 07:31
DaemonFCit has the full GPL license text in the about sectionMay 06 07:32
DaemonFCodd that the most DRM'd device of all time relies heavily on open source softwareMay 06 07:33
DaemonFCI'm going to try using my MP3 player to update my BluRay Player's firmware so I can play AvatarMay 06 07:42
DaemonFCfuckersMay 06 07:42
DaemonFC:PMay 06 07:42
DaemonFCI don't have a thumbdrive handy :DMay 06 07:42
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DaemonFCwhy did I decide to copy the files from this laptop?May 06 07:46
DaemonFCI'm not even sure it has USB 2.0May 06 07:46
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DaemonFCI've never had a DVD refuse to playMay 06 07:47
*DaemonFC missesDVD alreadyMay 06 07:47
MinceRdvd is drm-infested crap, tooMay 06 07:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Now can we call them "teabaggers"? http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/36304_Now_Can_We_Call_Them_TeabaggersMay 06 07:53
TechrightsBotTitle: Little Green Footballs - Now Can We Call Them 'Teabaggers?' .::. Size~: 29.8 KBMay 06 07:54
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DaemonFCwell, I got it playing I thinkMay 06 07:57
DaemonFChope I don't piss it off againMay 06 07:58
DaemonFCyayMay 06 07:59
DaemonFCit likes me againMay 06 07:59
DaemonFCI was about to give up and watch the DVD it came with :PMay 06 08:00
DaemonFCat least the DVD standard doesn't allow for DRM that can seriously stop your use of the discMay 06 08:01
DaemonFCbblMay 06 08:01
DaemonFCwatching movie before it changes its mindMay 06 08:02
DaemonFC:PMay 06 08:02
schestowitzNews has been corrupted by PR people http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMvP5arRq9wMay 06 08:05
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- PR firms control what you learn .::. Size~: 85.87 KBMay 06 08:05
schestowitzEsp. local newsMay 06 08:05
schestowitzDaemonFC: many devices use LinuxMay 06 08:05
cubezzztons and tonsMay 06 08:05
schestowitzBut it doesn't give freedomMay 06 08:06
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfHdY6UNTUYMay 06 08:24
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- The Alyona Show: Obama the new war president? .::. Size~: 93.18 KBMay 06 08:24
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schestowitz"May 06 09:10
schestowitzThere are roughly 44.4 million home mortgages in the US -May 06 09:10
schestowitzhttp://wiki.answers.com/Q/Number_of_Home_Mortgages_in_the_USMay 06 09:10
TechrightsBotTitle: WikiAnswers - Number of Home Mortgages in the US .::. Size~: 66.63 KBMay 06 09:10
schestowitzWe haveMay 06 09:10
schestowitz14,287,340 $million or about 14 $Trillion in mortgage debtMay 06 09:10
schestowitzhttp://www.federalreserve.gov/econresdata/releases/mortoutstand/current.htmMay 06 09:10
TechrightsBotTitle: FRB: Mortgage Debt Outstanding, March 2010, 1 .::. Size~: 53.53 KBMay 06 09:10
schestowitz"May 06 09:10
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Dev Mazumdar, from 4Front Technologies, sold XMMS.ORG domain without asking the XMMS community http://ur1.ca/z6sc !gnu !linux !freesoftwareMay 06 09:26
TechrightsBotTitle: DEVMAZUMDAR.COM - Your xmms download resource. .::. Size~: 1.4 KBMay 06 09:26
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bogdanbivHelloMay 06 09:27
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bogdanbivI just wanted to say that I like that you changed the name of the site - it wasn't only related to novell any more!May 06 09:28
bogdanbivPlus, the new name has a positive spin!May 06 09:29
MinceRr4wrMay 06 09:32
schestowitzHello, bogdanbivMay 06 09:33
schestowitzbogdanbiv: thanks, just read your feedbackMay 06 09:34
bogdanbivI noticed it for some time now, but I never took the time to tell this.May 06 09:35
bogdanbivThanks! May 06 09:35
bogdanbivI'm outMay 06 09:35
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] *boggle* http://bit.ly/bzBkRD says the wiki is out of date,author doesn't update it,instead blogs the changes. It *is* a wiki.May 06 09:51
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @achitnis: In an age where private information is currency, Facebook users leave money lying on the table @tariquesaniMay 06 09:59
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] RecordItNow is an interesting KDE frontend to recordmydesktop. Shame there's no GNOME variant. http://bit.ly/6xowRwMay 06 10:22
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DaemonFCschestowitz: You should see the stack of Free Software this Blu Ray player is usingMay 06 10:33
DaemonFCunder every license from BSD, to LGPL, GPL, MPL, CDDLMay 06 10:33
DaemonFCit just runs down the listMay 06 10:33
schestowitzI can imagineMay 06 10:33
DaemonFCincluding LinuxMay 06 10:33
DaemonFCand uclibcMay 06 10:33
oiaohmLot of companies are getting more truthful about their open source usage.May 06 10:34
DaemonFCit even uses MpleayerMay 06 10:34
DaemonFC*MplayerMay 06 10:34
oiaohmSince particular open source groups have been prepaired to sue their asses off.May 06 10:34
DaemonFCyes, Samsung offers to send a CD with full source to everything they use if you ask for oneMay 06 10:34
DaemonFCI may askMay 06 10:34
DaemonFCI am an end user, so I do have that rightMay 06 10:34
schestowitzWill they fund development of mplayer?May 06 10:35
schestowitzAnd gstreamer?May 06 10:35
DaemonFCwho knows?May 06 10:35
schestowitzOr will they just be "freetards" as they like to put it?May 06 10:35
oiaohmMost likely indirectly.May 06 10:35
DaemonFCProbably submit patches if they need to fix something for themselvesMay 06 10:35
DaemonFCit wouldn't be legal not toMay 06 10:35
oiaohmRemember not upstreaming patches sooner or latter you find yourself in pain.May 06 10:35
DaemonFCSamsung does submit Linux patchesMay 06 10:36
DaemonFCnot many, but they doMay 06 10:36
oiaohmSo once they are using open source the will support it more in time.May 06 10:36
oiaohmIts like water making a valley matter how much you resist it will happen.May 06 10:36
DaemonFCI saw some stat chart that was looking at kernel 2.6.15 through 2.6.26 I believeMay 06 10:36
DaemonFCSamsung was on the list with 60 some patches during that spanMay 06 10:37
DaemonFCbeen a while since I saw that thoughMay 06 10:37
oiaohmLook at nokia.May 06 10:37
oiaohmThey started off giving very few patches.May 06 10:37
MinceRif they do disclose the source code of their improvements (if any) then i'm not sure if they're really "freetards"May 06 10:37
oiaohmAs there usage increase numbers of patches has followed.May 06 10:37
DaemonFCMinceR, The fact they admit to using all that stuff, display the licenses for it all, and ofer to send you source code says a lot reallyMay 06 10:38
oiaohmCompany making products using open source if you try to be a freetard you will be forced not to be.  Other wise maintainer ship willl get too expensive.May 06 10:38
DaemonFCI mean, Blu Ray players are really black box devices right?May 06 10:38
DaemonFCThey might just as easily hide all of what they were usingMay 06 10:38
oiaohmIe google is a great example.May 06 10:38
oiaohmOf a company that tried to run independant to the main kernel.May 06 10:38
schestowitzNokia makes more patches than Novell IIRCMay 06 10:38
schestowitzThey climbed a lot, Novell feelMay 06 10:39
schestowitz*fellMay 06 10:39
DaemonFCand Nvidia was submitting more Linux patches than UbuntuMay 06 10:39
DaemonFC:DMay 06 10:39
oiaohmGoogle is now being forced to come into alignment.May 06 10:39
oiaohmBecause maintainer ship got too high.May 06 10:39
oiaohmOk it took over 12 years.May 06 10:39
oiaohmFor google to get self into critical mess.May 06 10:39
oiaohmBut all the freetard device makers will end up their.May 06 10:40
DaemonFCschestowitz: For some odd reason, first Avatar was playing but the picture was messed upMay 06 10:40
oiaohmSo why should we worry about them. May 06 10:40
DaemonFCso I eject the disc and put it back in May 06 10:40
DaemonFCtells me I need an update to make the disc playMay 06 10:40
DaemonFCthe player says it's up to date, including the "avatar patch"May 06 10:40
oiaohmNormal blueray problems.May 06 10:40
DaemonFCI ended up yanking the power cord and plugging it back in, the disc playsMay 06 10:41
oiaohmOk update glitch.May 06 10:41
oiaohmIe applied the update but need a full reboot to clean out the left overs.May 06 10:41
schestowitzDaemonFC: avatar is a messMay 06 10:42
schestowitzDRMMay 06 10:42
schestowitzThere were reports about thatMay 06 10:42
DaemonFCyeah, but I got the patch right after I plugged the player in yesterdayMay 06 10:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Beta of #Opera (Proprietary) for #GNU #Linux Arrives http://ur1.ca/z78d http://ur1.ca/z78eMay 06 10:42
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DaemonFCbut maybe the patch didn't fully apply until I unplugged it and plugged it back inMay 06 10:43
MinceRdownload a DRM-less version and you'll be able to play that. :>May 06 10:43
DaemonFCschestowitz: I'm just kind of wondering why they didn't develop a DRM system that could be updated whenever you put the disc that wanted it inMay 06 10:44
schestowitzI never had first-hand experience with DRMMay 06 10:46
MinceRthere's nothing reasonable about DRMMay 06 10:46
MinceRi had, via DVD-sMay 06 10:46
DaemonFCthe way this system seems to work is that you need indefinite firmware updatesMay 06 10:46
DaemonFCevery so often a new batch of discs come out that demand update x.xxMay 06 10:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More New Games for #GNU #Linux: Osmos, Indie Bundle... http://ur1.ca/z78t http://ur1.ca/z78vMay 06 10:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Comparison Between #KDE and #GNOME Desktop Environments: DVD Tools and Desktop Design http://ur1.ca/z797May 06 10:46
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DaemonFCand without the update, no discs later than that will playMay 06 10:46
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DaemonFCfunny how the point of sale omits that you'll need an internet connection or else your Blu Ray player will become a paperweight assuming it's not one out of the boxMay 06 10:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #KDE Software Compilation 4.4.3 is Officially Released (and Why You Need #Nepomuk ) http://ur1.ca/z79q http://ur1.ca/z79rMay 06 10:48
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oiaohmYep and a blueray player can brick it self any firmware update.May 06 10:49
oiaohmNice to make sure you can keep on selling devices.  DaemonFCMay 06 10:49
MinceR...to idiotsMay 06 10:49
schestowitz[10:46] <MinceR> i had, via DVD-sMay 06 10:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNOME Foundation Advisory Board Adds Collabora http://slashdot.org/submission/1230644/Collabora-joins-GNOME-Foundatio-Advisory-BoardMay 06 10:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at Future #GNOME Releases http://ur1.ca/z79x http://ur1.ca/z79yMay 06 10:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Told Sun seller at train station "You should be ashamed to sell that thing." He looked ashamed too. There's honest work shovelling shit.May 06 10:49
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MinceRjust like the suXbox 360May 06 10:49
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schestowitzI let others play DVDsMay 06 10:50
DaemonFCoiaohm, You mean like, refusing DRM updates to force the victim to buy a new player?May 06 10:50
DaemonFCas far as I know, they're still supporting the first batch of playersMay 06 10:50
DaemonFCback to 2006May 06 10:50
MinceRi let libdvdcss (or whatever it's called) do the job but in preparation i did hit a few snagsMay 06 10:50
DaemonFCHD-DVD had less DRMMay 06 10:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Experiences With SystemRescueCD, Funtoo, and Arch Linux (KDE 4.4.2) http://ur1.ca/z7ac http://ur1.ca/z7ad http://ur1.ca/z7aiMay 06 10:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Committed democracy in favour of @stellacreasy, who has been taught well by Neil Gerrard and will be an excellent local MP.May 06 10:52
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DaemonFCI think that's why the studios pulled their support for itMay 06 10:53
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #PCLinuxOS 2010.1 #KDE 4 is Released and Reviewed http://pclinuxos.com/?p=605 http://ur1.ca/z7ax http://ur1.ca/z7ayMay 06 10:55
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schestowitzDaemonFC: define "less"May 06 11:06
schestowitzYou mean "less strict"?May 06 11:06
DaemonFCyeahMay 06 11:06
schestowitzEasier to crack?May 06 11:06
DaemonFCless strictMay 06 11:06
DaemonFCless in your face tooMay 06 11:06
DaemonFCfrom what I could gatherMay 06 11:06
DaemonFChmmm, the DVD version looks like shit after watching the Blu Ray versionMay 06 11:07
oiaohmDepends my TV cannot display any more than what a DVD can put it.May 06 11:08
oiaohmSo BluRay no diff.May 06 11:08
DaemonFCI have it upconverting the DVD to 720p right nowMay 06 11:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Enterprise #Linux 6 Already Being Tested, Reviewed http://ur1.ca/z7dw http://ur1.ca/z7dxMay 06 11:08
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DaemonFCI decided to take a look at the DVD it came withMay 06 11:09
DaemonFCthey're throwing the DVD in with the Blu Ray like pogs or somethingMay 06 11:09
DaemonFC:PMay 06 11:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Yoper #Linux 2010 is Released, #sidux Gets #KDE SC 4.4.3 http://ur1.ca/z7el http://ur1.ca/z7emMay 06 11:09
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oiaohmIts the old trick DaemonFCMay 06 11:11
DaemonFCthe upconverting DVD players won't work without HDMI/HDCPMay 06 11:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Michael Portillo: "My name is now synonymous with eating a bucketload of shit in public." http://is.gd/bWFaN #ge2010May 06 11:11
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DaemonFCthey're actually worried someone would try to make a copy of that outputMay 06 11:12
oiaohmSo they will be able to in future say there are no DVD sales so stop making dvd.May 06 11:12
DaemonFC:PMay 06 11:12
DaemonFCupconverting can make the picture worse :)May 06 11:12
oiaohmReally HDMI/HDCP does not stop ripping and cloning.May 06 11:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Reviews of #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux, Including In-Place Upgrades http://ur1.ca/z7ew http://ur1.ca/z7ex http://ur1.ca/z7eyMay 06 11:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #LinuxMint 9 Now in RC, Reviews Pop Up Already http://ur1.ca/z7f7 http://ur1.ca/z7f8 http://ur1.ca/z7f9May 06 11:12
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DaemonFCahhh, the DVD throw in is so they can count it as a Blu Ray saleMay 06 11:13
oiaohmYep DaemonFCMay 06 11:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Derivatives of #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux - New Picks http://ur1.ca/z7fr http://ur1.ca/z7fs http://ur1.ca/z7ftMay 06 11:15
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DaemonFChttp://www.homemediamagazine.com/blu-ray-disc/avatar-blu-ray-issues-minimal-experts-say-19270May 06 11:21
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DaemonFCsure...May 06 11:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nokia 's #Linux Endeavours Advance Further http://ur1.ca/z7h5 http://ur1.ca/z7h6 http://ur1.ca/z7hbMay 06 11:21
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] I bet it woz immigrunts wot nobbled the plane. Euro coins in the brake lines. #ukipMay 06 11:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Alarming microsoft office http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aYDWf5JKYo (amusing video)May 06 11:58
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @popey indeed! both page 1 and 3 have them (but not the same kind) ;-)May 06 12:10
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oiaohmNow we need them to commit to ODF.  schestowitzMay 06 12:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] US DoD Explains Why "Commercial Software" and "Proprietary Software" Are Not the Same http://ur1.ca/z7t0May 06 12:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Hurrah! @ietherpad_user has been suspended. This is good. Stupid spammy bot. @ietherpadMay 06 12:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ACTA Faces New Challenges, Backlash http://ur1.ca/z7tw http://ur1.ca/z7tx http://ur1.ca/z7ty http://ur1.ca/z7tzMay 06 12:20
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schestowitzoiaohm: they never didMay 06 12:23
schestowitzNot even closeMay 06 12:23
schestowitzBut AU initially said no to OOXMLMay 06 12:24
schestowitzThen came Jeliffe and other shillsMay 06 12:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] There, just cast my vote. Make sure you exercise your right to. #ukvoteMay 06 12:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Suggestions for cheap and cheerful HD video camera? Good battery life, connectivity, no tape considered advantages.May 06 12:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Election day today in the UK. Lobbyists don't wait for electionsMay 06 12:35
oiaohmCreative commons was the first major battle.  schestowitzMay 06 12:40
oiaohmNow that its won we here can move on to the ODF battle.  schestowitzMay 06 12:41
schestowitzYes, that too, but..May 06 12:41
schestowitzThe whole CDF things come to mind againMay 06 12:42
schestowitzMany SaaS things contain data nowMay 06 12:42
schestowitzSo formats become less relevant than Web standardsMay 06 12:42
oiaohmYou are aware that Australian National Arcives only supports 2 formats.  PDF and ODFMay 06 12:42
oiaohmOOXML is not allowed.May 06 12:42
schestowitzI didn't knowMay 06 12:42
oiaohmAnd they are pushing for ODF to be standard all the way so they don't have to translate.May 06 12:43
oiaohmBasically the ODF war is on going here. schestowitzMay 06 12:43
oiaohmAlso our schools are starting to teach OpenOffice.May 06 12:43
oiaohmYes teach openoffice.May 06 12:44
oiaohmRemember what I said about schools setting the future.May 06 12:44
oiaohmBig issue we were facing got insane.  One council here could not read or print the town laws because they did not have the copyright.  schestowitzMay 06 12:49
oiaohmSo the creative common fix was far more critical.  schestowitzMay 06 12:50
oiaohmWhat is the point of having a ODF document if you cannot legally print it. schestowitzMay 06 12:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] #ukvote E17May 06 12:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Canonical is now the only Linux maker to license H.264/AVC, the closed and patented technology used to compress video http://ur1.ca/ylljMay 06 13:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] @_Goblin FYI http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2010/05/05/adobes-flash-monopoly-game-against-apple/May 06 13:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Joanna Rutkowska Chooses #GNU #Linux to Demonstrate Security Problems in #Apple Macs and #Microsoft #Windows http://ur1.ca/z87uMay 06 13:13
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Seems to be between Flip Ultra HD and Kodak Zi8. Both seem capable.Zi8 takes SDHC which is attractive.Flip better in low light. HmmmMay 06 13:18
oiaohmAt long last secruity researchers are get public air play.May 06 13:20
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] How to have a Network installation of Ubuntu using PXE boot ?? http://post.ly/f1OQMay 06 13:28
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schestowitzoiaohm: exactlyMay 06 13:30
oiaohmMS control is cracking.May 06 13:31
oiaohmIn the past firms would not publish the secuirty issues just in case MS pulled there adverts.May 06 13:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] why jQuery is best - http://tympanus.net/Tutorials/BeautifulBackgroundImageNavigation most beautiful navigation #jQuery #navigation #webMay 06 13:31
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Breakthrough for Free Software Gaming - http://bit.ly/90N30V http://bit.ly/cGrJj8 #game #fossMay 06 13:33
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] @_Goblin Good boy! Vote early, vote often!May 06 13:35
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New case in Ohio state shows Microsoft-connected lawyers pushing for Google antitrust; details emerge in SCO case http://ur1.ca/z8k5May 06 13:38
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schestowitzoiaohm: some are not disclosedMay 06 13:39
schestowitzprogrammer spots it, patches it, never reports itMay 06 13:39
oiaohmThat is even true inside Linux.May 06 13:40
oiaohmAnd open source.May 06 13:40
oiaohmSometimes programmer does not even know they are fixing a secuirty fault.May 06 13:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] _ @ShashiTharoor our MPs are so dedicated for work that they will be ready to pay 1Lakh per month for country service #indiaMay 06 13:48
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DaemonFCI hope they don't knock on the door downstairs and get the child molesting potheadMay 06 13:52
DaemonFCthose installer people aren't really that brightMay 06 13:53
ThistleWebDaemonFC: you don't live in a church do you? lolMay 06 13:54
ThistleWeb"child molesting pothead" could easily be a preistMay 06 13:55
DaemonFCwell, there's that guy down there and a "Catholic" woman in Apt B with Jesus and Mary and Joseph statues outside who prays the rosaryMay 06 13:55
DaemonFCand she's an alcoholic who is trying to have sex with meMay 06 13:55
ThistleWebtrying to empart the drunk effect in an unusual wayMay 06 13:56
DaemonFCI'm going to start carrying cyanide capsules in my teeth in case she whacks me over the head and ties me up some dayMay 06 13:56
ThistleWeband if that whack on the head slams your teeth together, you become a stiff...whish is kinda what she's afterMay 06 13:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell is Still Aping #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/z8q3 Novell is still promoting Microsoft software while apparently dropping Linux projectsMay 06 14:00
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oiaohmRadeonHD  Novell kept alive a lot longer then it was required.May 06 14:03
oiaohmNovell is keeping go-oo alive.May 06 14:03
DaemonFCgo-oo is alrightMay 06 14:03
DaemonFCless necessary since OOo 3.2May 06 14:03
oiaohmI guess go-oo will die the same death as RadeonHDMay 06 14:06
oiaohmNothing that special outside the partent program so die.May 06 14:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Firefox should contain - right click - "close duplicated tabs" @firefoxMay 06 14:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Missed last night, just heard about it.#torkidlitMay 06 14:14
oiaohmhttp://www.osnews.com/story/23249/Windows_Phone_7_Based_on_Windows_Embedded_Compact_7  Hmm normal MS failing product line rename it and hope that improves things.May 06 14:32
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MinceRwindows CE->windows EC->cindows EW->eindows WC->etc.May 06 14:43
cubezzzhow about I just use an Amiga instead?May 06 14:44
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @Gauravonomics: Here's the draft of my talk on citizen media in India for #GV2010 http://bit.ly/aQNviXMay 06 14:46
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] In order to ship an H.264 decoder with Firefox, Mozilla would have to pay the MPEG-LA something around $5 million a year http://ur1.ca/z90eMay 06 14:48
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] In the aftermath of the Acacia case http://ur1.ca/z94e #SUSE is still encumbered with unjustified patent tax #novell #microsoft #swpatsMay 06 15:07
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Perhaps some good news for net neutrality. http://is.gd/bWUR7May 06 15:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Canonical, #Ubuntu , and Software Patents http://ur1.ca/z98o How software patents tax comes into Ubuntu (at OEM level) #swpatsMay 06 15:28
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] 4 more sleeps till UDS!May 06 15:30
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Oh blimey. Just seen a co-worker type a url in a google search box at google.com. I know "normals" do this, but IT professionals. Sheesh.May 06 16:02
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] To clarify. Co-worker wasn't doing anything 'clever'. He was typing in a url I told him to type.May 06 16:18
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] #ukvote. Election will be decided by a minority of voters in 1/6 to 1/10 of constituencies. Democracy? you are having a laughMay 06 16:45
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Even the mass media knows the Tea Party is a Republican scam http://ur1.ca/z9oxMay 06 16:46
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Archos 7, Android !Linux running 7" touchscreen 1ghz ARM Cortex-A8 tablet ships in June for $200 http://ur1.ca/z9m9 possible iPad killerMay 06 16:56
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Nice write up and photos from #oggcamp by Roger Whittaker who represented Novell / SUSE. http://bit.ly/a1EfMQMay 06 17:01
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Another great #oggcamp write up from Lorna Jane http://bit.ly/cVLeVjMay 06 17:06
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] RT @tom_watson Everyone I speak to is reporting a very high turnout. That's London, midlands, north west and Wales. #ge2010May 06 17:31
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I finally told the landlord that he either kicks that guy downstairs out or I'm finding a new apartmentMay 06 18:00
DaemonFChe told me that he'd give that woman a choice, that guy moves out or they all doMay 06 18:01
DaemonFC:)May 06 18:01
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DaemonFCI get Science Channel!! In HD even!May 06 18:07
DaemonFCComcast had it in an expensive tierMay 06 18:07
DaemonFCI also have LogoMay 06 18:07
DaemonFCtwo cartoon network channelsMay 06 18:07
DaemonFCa billion others :DMay 06 18:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Labour candidate for Bootle attacked by dog - even the dogs don't like Labour lol http://tinyurl.com/2bc75ojMay 06 18:08
TechrightsBotTitle: BBC News - Labour candidate for Bootle attacked by dog .::. Size~: 48.31 KBMay 06 18:08
schestowitzI'm trying to see if Florian lobbies for someoneMay 06 18:14
schestowitzJust replied to him w/: " How do you get by these days?"May 06 18:15
schestowitzzoobab: have you seen his posts?May 06 18:15
schestowitzzoobab: have you seen his posts?http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2010/05/long-and-winding-road-to-single-eu.html (there's also http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2010/05/european-union-agenda-concerning.html )May 06 18:16
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DaemonFCschestowitz: That tells you he considers me to be a good tenantMay 06 18:16
schestowitzWhat does?May 06 18:17
DaemonFChe's telling the guys in the more expensive apartment to get lostMay 06 18:17
schestowitzOh.May 06 18:17
schestowitzI scrolled down too fastMay 06 18:17
DaemonFCthis DirecTV has better picture than ComcastMay 06 18:17
DaemonFCI noticed that right awayMay 06 18:17
schestowitzDaemonFC: YouTube has good science channelsMay 06 18:18
DaemonFCand their set boxes are fastMay 06 18:18
schestowitz[18:17] <DaemonFC> he's telling the guys in the more expensive apartment to get lostMay 06 18:18
schestowitzGo occupy hisMay 06 18:18
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I finally said "You have in my contract an extra $25 a week if I move someone else in, so what is Lorrie paying for the four extra people not on the lease?"May 06 18:23
DaemonFChe didn't even want to answer me thatMay 06 18:24
DaemonFCI told him if we're calling it freebies, I'll move in my extended family and we can pretend we're MexicansMay 06 18:24
DaemonFC:PMay 06 18:24
schestowitzYou said that?May 06 18:26
DaemonFCyeah, also said I would beat that guys head in if he vandalized any of my propertyMay 06 18:27
DaemonFC:DMay 06 18:27
schestowitzhttp://www.geeks.co.uk/21556-geek-life-online-livingMay 06 18:28
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schestowitzDaemonFC: what property?May 06 18:28
DaemonFCcar, satellite dish, etcMay 06 18:28
schestowitzJabba is not popertyMay 06 18:28
DaemonFC:PMay 06 18:32
DaemonFCif he hurts Jabba, he will have to dieMay 06 18:32
DaemonFCI'm not exagerrating May 06 18:32
DaemonFC:DMay 06 18:32
DaemonFCif there's anything I hate worse than a child molestor, it's a person who is cruel to animalsMay 06 18:33
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schestowitzHumans are animals tooMay 06 18:39
schestowitzAnimals are humansMay 06 18:39
schestowitzBut we love eating meat sometimes, a cultural thingMay 06 18:39
schestowitzCow becomes befMay 06 18:39
schestowitzFowl becomes 'chicken'May 06 18:40
schestowitzAnd so on.May 06 18:40
schestowitzChicks->omeletteMay 06 18:40
schestowitzJabba could make you some money in ChinatownMay 06 18:40
schestowitzcould feed 3 families on a night outMay 06 18:42
schestowitz"Polling stations up and down the country opened at 0700 BST and people will be able to cast their ballots until 2200 BST. " http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8663716.stm sebsebseb did you vote?May 06 18:44
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schestowitzMaybe benJIman didMay 06 18:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin who did you vote for? @glynmoody uses his identica/twitter to boost Tories this weekMay 06 18:54
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sebsebsebschestowitz: no not just yetMay 06 19:14
sebsebsebschestowitz: Did you?May 06 19:15
schestowitzNo.May 06 19:16
schestowitzMac Asay: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-20004168-16.htmlMay 06 19:16
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sebsebsebAre you going to?May 06 19:16
schestowitzI'd need to swap German for EnglishMay 06 19:16
sebsebsebwhat?May 06 19:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Unnerving picture: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/05/it-used-to-do-more-sonys-flip-flopping-history-with-the-ps3.arsMay 06 19:19
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schestowitzsebsebseb: I'm dual-nationalMay 06 19:24
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schestowitz"Smartbooks have failed to materialise due to delays in Flash optimisation, a lower-than-expected uptake of Linux on netbooks, and the sudden emergence of tablets, ARM's marketing chief has said."May 06 19:25
schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/mobile-devices/2010/05/05/smartbooks-have-been-delayed-by-flash-issues-says-arm-40088854/May 06 19:25
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh so your not alloweed?  what do you mean by dual-national exactly anyway?May 06 19:25
TechrightsBotTitle: Smartbooks have been delayed by Flash issues, says ARM | Mobile Devices | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 46.52 KBMay 06 19:25
schestowitzanother reason to resent darn FlashMay 06 19:26
DaemonFCI love my DirecTV so farMay 06 19:26
schestowitzsebsebseb: I'll need to give up one citizenship just to voteMay 06 19:26
DaemonFCwell, coming from Comcast, it's not like they're up against muchMay 06 19:26
DaemonFCbut they are betterMay 06 19:26
schestowitzI don't believe in voting anyway, so I would not voteMay 06 19:26
schestowitzSwedes are smart. They don't voteMay 06 19:27
schestowitzThey get fined if they don't because of thatMay 06 19:27
DaemonFCI vote, for whatever it's worthMay 06 19:27
DaemonFCoh wellMay 06 19:27
DaemonFCschestowitz: According to the supermarket coupon mailer, my name is RylaMay 06 19:27
DaemonFC:PMay 06 19:27
schestowitzRyuMay 06 19:27
DaemonFCthey should put an h at the end of thatMay 06 19:28
sebsebsebschestowitz: your half Germen?May 06 19:28
schestowitzYesMay 06 19:28
schestowitzDaemonFC: RyahMay 06 19:28
schestowitz?May 06 19:28
sebsebsebschestowitz: interestingMay 06 19:28
sebsebsebalso on the subject of SwedesMay 06 19:28
sebsebsebI am half SwedishMay 06 19:29
schestowitzI know, I know..May 06 19:29
schestowitzYou said this beforeMay 06 19:29
DaemonFCfree ice cream, free oscar mayer lunch meat, save $1 on Kroger self-rising pizza, save 50 cents on pringlesMay 06 19:29
sebsebsebso I know this language :)  just not as well as I should really, when it comes to, the typeing/writing and reading,  oh and speaking well sometimes I don't know words or a lot of the time really, but nearly as good as English even soMay 06 19:29
sebsebsebsad though when meant to be fluent reallyMay 06 19:29
DaemonFCcoupons for salad and dressing, totinos pizzasMay 06 19:29
DaemonFClipton iced teaMay 06 19:29
schestowitzNationalities and religions means nothing in real terms, unlike genetics. Same reason why geography is man-madeMay 06 19:29
DaemonFCsome other stuffMay 06 19:29
DaemonFCsounds like they've profiled me wellMay 06 19:30
DaemonFC:PMay 06 19:30
schestowitzThere's something objective and things we make up like borders, superstitions, political parties, laws...May 06 19:30
DaemonFCthey forgot to throw in some coupons for sandwich spreadMay 06 19:30
schestowitzDaemonFC: here we get profiled with Nactar cardsMay 06 19:30
schestowitzThey keep track of everything you buy, even if you pay by cashMay 06 19:30
schestowitzOtherwise you get no cashbackMay 06 19:30
DaemonFCschestowitz: One of the great mysteries of life. Why is "sandwich spread" made with bologna so much tastier and cheaper than ham salad? :)May 06 19:31
schestowitzThis means that if I want my groceries to stay private I need to not get my cashback either, i.e. pay extraMay 06 19:31
DaemonFCletter from Progressive begging me to come back and pay 50% more for the same coverageMay 06 19:32
DaemonFCI hate these please come back lettersMay 06 19:32
DaemonFCI left for a reasonMay 06 19:32
DaemonFCwach Comcast fire off a fewMay 06 19:32
DaemonFC"Try us again, an updated quote could be $486 less"May 06 19:33
DaemonFC$486 off of a $209 6 month premium?May 06 19:33
DaemonFCthey're going to pay me up to $277 to take my business back to them? :DMay 06 19:33
DaemonFCtwo DVDs from NetflixMay 06 19:34
DaemonFChave some Jet Li movies on Blu Ray coming tomorrowMay 06 19:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] 13 people in front of me in the queue to vote.May 06 19:42
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] The first phase of matrix simulation is successful. Humanity got addicted to social network and 2D Internet. #matrixMay 06 19:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Eben Moglen on Freedom in The Cloud (Ogg) http://ur1.ca/zaw8 Great talk #fogcomputing #google #spying #privacyMay 06 20:01
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schestowitzCan anyone test to see if the video above shows up OK in Firefox, as ogg?May 06 20:01
schestowitzhttp://caps.fool.com/Blogs/ViewPost.aspx?bpid=386531&t=01007146784763297259May 06 20:07
schestowitz"Rearrange the word "Ultralong" and you'll see that you get "A Gnu Troll". This is obviously a reference to the Linux operating system which is in direct competition with Microsoft for web market share. CAPS is running on Microsoft technology. Connect the dots my friends."May 06 20:07
TechrightsBotTitle: CAPS is doomed  .::. Size~: 153.87 KBMay 06 20:07
schestowitzHeckMay 06 20:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Market crashing? :SMay 06 20:15
schestowitzzoobab: wrong URL? http://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/13482825537May 06 20:16
TechrightsBotTitle: Twitter / zoobab: RT @FOSSpatents: EC likely ... .::. Size~: 10.81 KBMay 06 20:16
schestowitzhttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB119257853838961293.htmlMay 06 20:16
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Boing! As the market bounces back. That's an impressive dip.May 06 20:29
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schestowitzPeter Yared is still at his anti-FOSS crusade http://www.businessweek.com/technology/technology_at_work/archives/2009/07/further_evaluating_commercial_open_source.htmlMay 06 20:40
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DaemonFChis mom is home and she is pissedMay 06 20:47
DaemonFCPISSEDMay 06 20:47
DaemonFCschestowitz: World War III going on underneath meMay 06 20:47
schestowitzpissed as in upset or drunk?May 06 20:47
DaemonFCthorwing thingsMay 06 20:47
DaemonFCscreamingMay 06 20:47
schestowitzslip Prozac into her coffeeMay 06 20:47
schestowitz:-pMay 06 20:47
schestowitz[20:47] <DaemonFC> thorwing thingsMay 06 20:48
schestowitzThat rarely solves anything. It makes room for /more/ workMay 06 20:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] What happens if people are still queueing round the corner at 10pm, when the polls close?May 06 20:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Screenbin can be a great educational tool - https://launchpad.net/screenbinMay 06 20:56
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] .@arkadyrose, previously a Tory, has just confessed she is joining the LibDems. *choke*hack*die* I'll keep the red flag flying though!May 06 21:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Everybody is trying to create rich interactive e-learning. nobody is thinking about a open format for it. #eduvid #openstandardMay 06 21:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] she actually joined a week ago. she only just told me. *shock*May 06 21:02
schestowitzhttp://www.telecomtv.com/comspace_newsDetail.aspx?n=46260&id=e9381817-0593-417a-8639-c4c53e2a2a10#May 06 21:03
TechrightsBotTitle: TelecomTV | News | Three years and Nokia STILL hasn't answered the iPhone .::. Size~: 75.23 KBMay 06 21:03
schestowitzProbably trueMay 06 21:03
schestowitzBut Apple has hype (hype-Phone)May 06 21:03
schestowitzMaemo is much better\May 06 21:03
MinceRwhy do they want nokia to create a shitty phone?May 06 21:05
schestowitzshiny shiny shiny May 06 21:06
schestowitzLike Steve's headMay 06 21:06
schestowitz[Both Steves]May 06 21:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @davidgerard wise choiceMay 06 21:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Catholic sex abuse scandal in perspective. http://is.gd/bXlLCMay 06 21:07
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schestowitzhttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6425JE20100504May 06 21:08
TechrightsBotTitle: Regulators mull antitrust look at Apple: source| Reuters .::. Size~: 65.22 KBMay 06 21:08
schestowitzBBC News - Looking at the behinds of the Catholic sex abuse scandal May 06 21:08
schestowitz:-pMay 06 21:08
schestowitzhttp://moconews.net/article/419-the-reasons-why-googles-open-handset-alliance-has-been-a-disappointment/May 06 21:10
TechrightsBotTitle: Why Googles Open Handset Alliance Has Been A Disappointment| mocoNews .::. Size~: 40.9 KBMay 06 21:10
schestowitzSomething to remember when we criticise Google for DRM and junkMay 06 21:10
schestowitzAbhorrent control freakiness disguised as "open:"May 06 21:10
schestowitz"Dow average down 286 points as session end nears "May 06 21:15
schestowitz"Officials confirm landfall of Gulf oil spill: WSJ ""May 06 21:15
schestowitzthe markets collapse todayMay 06 21:16
schestowitzhttp://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/hightower-expands-host-portal-with-industrys-first-iphoneipad-application-for-advisors-92759324.htmlMay 06 21:17
TechrightsBotTitle:  HighTower Expands Host Portal With Industry's First iPhone/iPad Application for Advisors -- CHICAGO, May 4 /PRNewswire/ -- .::. Size~: 51.28 KBMay 06 21:17
schestowitzFake "open-soruce"May 06 21:17
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DaemonFCupscaled DVD can still look pretty goodMay 06 21:59
DaemonFCI still had some normal DVDs left in my queue May 06 21:59
DaemonFCwatching X-Men Origins: Wolverine :)May 06 21:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Here we go #ge2010 BBC1May 06 22:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Hah, one minute in and the big screen on BBC1 has broken already :)May 06 22:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Ooo, am I the only one hoping one of the kids running with ballot boxes falls flat on their face.This is you've been framed isnt it? #ge2010May 06 22:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] OOo hello Sophie on BBC1May 06 22:29
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Who's going to look worst by 3am? #ge2010May 06 22:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] "You might consider getting into bed with Peter Mandleson" - Jeremy Paxman BBC1 #ge2010 - Er, no thanks.May 06 22:40
schestowitzDaemonFC: is your mom better now?May 06 22:41
DaemonFC?May 06 22:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] That's one massive ipad they have there on BBC1May 06 22:43
DaemonFCI think the only person's mom I mentioned was that idiot downstairsMay 06 22:43
DaemonFCthey tried banging on my door and I called the policeMay 06 22:43
schestowitzhttp://science.slashdot.org/story/10/05/06/1441237/Recession-Cuts-Operation-That-Uses-Hair-To-Clean-Up-OilMay 06 22:49
TechrightsBotTitle: Slashdot Science Story | Recession Cuts Operation That Uses Hair To Clean Up Oil .::. Size~: 126.82 KBMay 06 22:49
schestowitzDaemonFC: oh, I seeMay 06 22:50
schestowitz*LOL* http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8662822.stmMay 06 22:50
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schestowitzNutters in chargeMay 06 22:51
schestowitzI'm guessing that they had stuck tubes up his rectum and returned him home before sunriseMay 06 22:51
schestowitzAlien abductions almost always go like that :-DMay 06 22:51
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schestowitzhttp://www.infogrok.com/index.php/technology/ibm-opens-cloud-computing-laboratory-in-singapore.htmlMay 06 22:53
schestowitzSpyware factoriesMay 06 22:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] ♺ @ruskin147: Here is the tweet from Arnold Schwarzenegger http://tweetphoto.com/21330294May 06 23:01
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Digg was my favourite site in 2006. Now it's falling behind. http://ur1.ca/zbt7May 06 23:02
TechrightsBotTitle: In Wake Of CEOs Departure, Digg Cuts 10 Percent Of Staff| paidContent .::. Size~: 29.4 KBMay 06 23:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Digg in short: 2006 (few trolls, I was ranked 17th in the site), 2007 (Apple noise), 2008 (not tech anymore), 2009 (does it still exist?)May 06 23:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NewsTechnica: Wrong lizards get in http://newstechnica.com/?p=2167 #ge2010May 06 23:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @josephtartakoff @owenthomas: The first search result I get on Google for "search" is ... Bing? http://bit.ly/9ScAoaMay 06 23:04
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] ♺ @glynmoody: Can I vote with my face covered? - http://bit.ly/9CwYZW classy: @petermurrayrust tells us why he votes in a bear-suit #ge2010May 06 23:14
TechrightsBotTitle: Unilever Centre for Molecular Informatics, Cambridge - Can I vote with my face covered? «  petermrs blog .::. Size~: 22.2 KBMay 06 23:14
schestowitzhttp://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/05/diy-electric-motorcycle-makes-a-run-at-green-grand-prix/May 06 23:29
TechrightsBotTitle: DIY Electric Motorcycle Makes a Run at Green Grand Prix | Autopia | Wired.com .::. Size~: 74.56 KBMay 06 23:29
schestowitzhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/30/halliburton-may-be-culpri_n_558481.htmlMay 06 23:34
TechrightsBotTitle: Halliburton May Be Culprit In Oil Rig Explosion .::. Size~: 205.12 KBMay 06 23:34
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz I'll DM it to you.....May 06 23:40
MinceRgnMay 06 23:40
_goblingnMay 06 23:41
MinceRDM, as in Dungeon Master? :>May 06 23:41
_goblinyeah...May 06 23:41
_goblinlolMay 06 23:41
_goblinroll 2 dieMay 06 23:41
_goblinah noMay 06 23:42
_goblinthats D&DMay 06 23:42
_goblinDM....Amiga/St/PC Game...RPG, very goodMay 06 23:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Anyone else for doing this whole thing again in a month, two at most? #ge2010May 06 23:42
MinceRD&D does use the termMay 06 23:42
_goblinLabour hold SunderlanMay 06 23:44
_goblinLabour hold SunderlandMay 06 23:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Maybe she's actually a tiny tiny midget and that is actually an ipad on BBC1 #ge2010May 06 23:46
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Don't go to bed mad at #ge2010 results - go to bed knowing you're taking back parliament. http://bit.ly/Takeitback #ukelections #takeitbackMay 06 23:54
TechrightsBotTitle: Take Back Parliament  |  Sign the Petition .::. Size~: 19.91 KBMay 06 23:54
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/may/03/deepwater-horizon-oil-spill-turtle-deaths-soarMay 06 23:56
TechrightsBotTitle:  Deepwater Horizon oil spill: turtle deaths soar amid fight to save wildlife | Environment | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 84.52 KBMay 06 23:56

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