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| oiaohm | So hands more than tied they don't have it any more. DaemonFC | May 08 00:02 |
| oiaohm | http://www.nokia.com/press/press-releases/showpressrelease?newsid=1413195 I think this is sending a very clear warning to anyone who thinks of attacking meego | May 08 00:04 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/05/06/tsa.scanner.assault/?hpt=T3 | May 08 00:12 |
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| DaemonFC | funny | May 08 00:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] One of my all time favorite tracks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGywo81G6lk&feature=fvst | May 08 00:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Followed by 2nd : Rotting Christ - After Dark I Feel : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH_FpNC7Kik | May 08 00:15 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] (by the way, its this weekend's top 5 Goblin metal trax) | May 08 00:15 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] 3rd.....GWAR - Love Surgery http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWx6YlEj-qw | May 08 00:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] 4th would be Godsmack - Voodoo : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSUQxGjZZ4 | May 08 00:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] and finally......a non metal track.... ICP - Boogie Woogie Wu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjGTUYQXTQI - that ends Goblins 5 picks! | May 08 00:23 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Scratch that....no 5 on the track list should be: Piggy Pie-Insane Clown Posse (ICP) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDCTV9bBvu4 | May 08 00:27 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Just donated a token amount to an author for a great free app. Also asked if he'd consider open sourcing it ;) | May 08 00:29 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Finding it quite incredible that there's no option in Android to configure a proxy server on the wireless network. | May 08 00:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Keep meaning to check back on Wave....its been a while...has it come out of Beta yet? | May 08 00:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] @_Goblin Does anything from Google ever come out of Beta? | May 08 00:44 | |
| MinceR | gn | May 08 00:45 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] When Brands Become Cults http://techrights.org/2010/05/07/slamming-apple-over-gizmodo/ Yes, it's about #Apple | May 08 01:24 | |
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| yuhong | http://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/have-we-lost-desktop-security-battle-050610 | May 08 01:30 |
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| yuhong | And in case you think it is limited to Windows, read the entire article. | May 08 01:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Users want a Linux port of uTorrent? http://tinyurl.com/3abnxje #tpb #utorrent #microsoft #windows #linux #foss | May 08 01:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Australian Tax Office May Dump #Novell http://ur1.ca/zk2f NSW tax office is looking for a #GroupWise replacement #lockin | May 08 01:32 | |
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| Aondo | why would we want utorrent, got many free software ones | May 08 01:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @_the_mad_hatter possibly not....Wave does have promise though...I just didn't have time to keep ontop of another social networking product. | May 08 01:45 | |
| _goblin | aondo: thats what I asked. | May 08 01:47 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Canonical Needs to Tell #Ubuntu Users How Much It Paid MPEG-LA for #Patent ‘Protection’ http://ur1.ca/zkab #swpats | May 08 02:14 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: They do business in the US | May 08 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | they can't if they don't obey the law | May 08 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | same goes for ALDI | May 08 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | easier to pay off the MPEG cartel than stop doing business in the US | May 08 02:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] mono-nono in hibernation http://ur1.ca/zkcx "I’m not taking down mono-nono, I just don’t have time to focus on multiple blogs." | May 08 02:27 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: but ALDI sells devices | May 08 02:28 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu can have users get the codecs from the EU | May 08 02:28 |
| schestowitz | anyway, gn | May 08 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, but users, paying users, are usually pretty dumb | May 08 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | get it through Dell or something | May 08 02:28 |
| schestowitz | Roughly Drafted makes me sick sometimes | May 08 02:28 |
| schestowitz | Apple, Apple, Aplle | May 08 02:29 |
| schestowitz | Anti-Linux too | May 08 02:29 |
| schestowitz | http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2010/05/07/what-will-hp-do-with-palms-webos-mostly-likely-fail/ | May 08 02:29 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] @_Goblin FYI, Openbytes won't load. | May 08 02:30 | |
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| DaemonFC | glad I got back before it started raining | May 08 04:03 |
| DaemonFC | so much for the weather channel | May 08 04:04 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] "Hugs are universal medicine!" #quote | May 08 04:22 | |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | May 08 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | they're selling the original Star Trek series on Blu Ray | May 08 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | is that going to be an upgrade from DVD for something recorded in the 1960s? | May 08 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 08 04:25 |
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| DeadSuperHero | Hi folks. | May 08 04:48 |
| DaemonFC | I might plant more tulips around those ones that sprang up out there | May 08 04:48 |
| DaemonFC | they look great | May 08 04:48 |
| DeadSuperHero | Tulips are pretty swell. | May 08 04:48 |
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| DeadSuperHero | So I switched over to Fedora the other day. | May 08 04:50 |
| DeadSuperHero | I must say that I'm quite impressed. | May 08 04:50 |
| DaemonFC | DeadSuperHero, It's getting to where everything I have runs Linux in some form | May 08 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | down to my phone and blu ray player | May 08 04:51 |
| DeadSuperHero | Well done. | May 08 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | the phone is weird though | May 08 04:52 |
| DeadSuperHero | I just got tired of Ubuntu and, more importantly, Kubuntu. | May 08 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | I think they based it on Android but they stripped all Google support | May 08 04:52 |
| DeadSuperHero | I'm very impressed with KDE in F13. | May 08 04:52 |
| DeadSuperHero | Oh, weird. | May 08 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | like you can set up mobile email access to everything but gmail | May 08 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | it support Yahoo, Windows Live, and AOL instant messenger | May 08 04:53 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 08 04:53 |
| DeadSuperHero | That's...strange. | May 08 04:53 |
| DeadSuperHero | What phone is it? | May 08 04:53 |
| DaemonFC | it defaults to Yahoo search | May 08 04:53 |
| DaemonFC | Samsung Solstice | May 08 04:53 |
| DaemonFC | got it from AT&T | May 08 04:53 |
| DeadSuperHero | Huh. | May 08 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | the apps are all Java applets | May 08 04:54 |
| DeadSuperHero | OH, these things... | May 08 04:55 |
| DeadSuperHero | A buddy of mine had a Delve... | May 08 04:55 |
| DeadSuperHero | Was actually a pretty decent phone. | May 08 04:55 |
| DaemonFC | they're stopping all production of floppy disks this year!! NOOOOO!!!! | May 08 05:05 |
| DaemonFC | stock up while you still can! | May 08 05:05 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 08 05:05 |
| DeadSuperHero | I should. | May 08 05:07 |
| DeadSuperHero | Make a coaster or something. | May 08 05:07 |
| DaemonFC | DeadSuperHero, AOL still sends discs out | May 08 05:07 |
| DeadSuperHero | Oh, you. | May 08 05:07 |
| DaemonFC | you can get Netzero CDs at the checkouts at Walmart for free | May 08 05:07 |
| DeadSuperHero | But a floppy disk coaster has class to it. | May 08 05:07 |
| DaemonFC | another tuna sub :P | May 08 05:14 |
| DaemonFC | mmmm | May 08 05:14 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Good Morning! I'm having a lot of fun with my (new) AhtlonXP system, running #kubuntu 10.04 | May 08 05:52 | |
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| DaemonFC | cutting up a ringtone :) | May 08 06:57 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] lol RT: @fakingnews: Breaking News: Facebook updates privacy options to allow caste based content sharing http://bit.ly/czOY86 #fakingnews | May 08 07:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] aha,, crossed more then 600 follower on twitter profile,, #nsisodiya #foss | May 08 07:14 | |
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| Omar87 | Hi all. | May 08 07:22 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] How safe our ATM's are? ICICI ATM running win xp, Looks Pretty scary with Popups. WTH they need winzip? [pic] http://twitpic.com/1lzi40 | May 08 07:52 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] I like Ubuntu, unfortuately however it has nothing mor left in common with Free Software IMHO. | May 08 07:58 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Canonical is becoming the next Novell if you'd ask me :-( | May 08 07:59 | |
| Omar87 | Hi all. | May 08 08:01 |
| schestowitz | http://teddziuba.com/2010/05/why-engineers-hop-jobs.html | May 08 08:03 |
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| schestowitz | http://penguinpetes.com/b2evo/index.php?title=isn_t_it_strange_that_microsoft_only_sin&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 "How expected, Robotron once again goes on another Linux blog and spreads the same garbage as usual." | May 08 08:04 |
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| schestowitz | The AstroTurf | May 08 08:04 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: http://www.businessinsider.com/10-reasons-to-delete-your-facebook-account-2010-5 | May 08 08:06 |
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| schestowitz | "9. Facebook's CEO has a documented history of unethical behavior. From the very beginning of Facebook's existence, there are questions about Zuckerberg's ethics. According to BusinessInsider.com, he used Facebook user data to guess email passwords and read personal email in order to discredit his rivals." | May 08 08:06 |
| schestowitz | http://www.insidesocal.com/click/2010/05/zdnet---are-you-trying-to-lose.html | May 08 08:09 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: ZDNet - are you TRYING to lose readers? (Your latest redesign makes me wonder) - CLICK .::. Size~: 31.16 KB | May 08 08:09 |
| schestowitz | Heh. He actually likes that site?? | May 08 08:09 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, I have read the exact same 10 reasons somewhere on Gizmodo. | May 08 08:11 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/06/google_sues_blues_label/ | May 08 08:21 |
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| schestowitz | "You might call this one asymmetric copyright warfare. Google, the $167bn internet company, is suing a tiny indie label that releases blues records." | May 08 08:21 |
| schestowitz | I can't trust claims from the Andrew Orlowski troll | May 08 08:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/06/nasa_orion_abort_test/ | May 08 08:26 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/05/yes-the-mavizen-electric-superbike-is-hot/ | May 08 08:28 |
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| schestowitz | Is this the one with Linux on board? | May 08 08:29 |
| schestowitz | I can't remember | May 08 08:29 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.pirateparty.org.uk/blog/2010/may/7/everything-starts-somewhere/ | May 08 08:31 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Going to my friend Neils wedding today. Looking forward to it. | May 08 08:42 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @prosario2000 @fsf: FSF launches free software extension listing for OpenOffice.org -- http://ur1.ca/zj2r | May 08 08:48 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Would it be preferable if I posted multiple links as one "bunch"? http://www.ghabuntu.com/2010/05/linkbunch-combine-several-links-into.html | May 08 09:00 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] LOL Microsoft Technical Evangelist Hans van Raaij (Clogwog and 500 nyms) is "attacking" me again. ROTFLMAO | May 08 09:05 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] I still have 4.5 years remaining to win the bet with my friend. | May 08 09:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Poor ToiletClog, #GNU #Linux obviously scares the hell out of Microsoft. Who d'a thunk it :-D | May 08 09:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Sick of the IP-tax policy by Canonical? Take a look at (KDE, Debian based) Mephis: http://www.mepis.org/ | May 08 09:16 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: MEPIS | Now Shipping Versions 8.0 and 8.5 .::. Size~: 16.49 KB | May 08 09:16 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/06/mumbai-terror-attacks-sentence-death | May 08 09:19 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Mumbai terror attacks: gunman sentenced to death | World news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 63.08 KB | May 08 09:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst ignore these trolls, don't be discouraged | May 08 09:19 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/may/06/south-africa-world-cup-spending-disgrace | May 08 09:23 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: South Africa's World Cup is a disgrace | Chris Rodrigues | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 194.33 KB | May 08 09:23 |
| schestowitz | https://secure.pfaw.org/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=165 | May 08 09:23 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz I do, it's sometimes hard to not respond, yet they are not worth a respond. No idea how he slipped trhoght my killfile. | May 08 09:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz I will under no sircumstances respond to Hans in COLA. | May 08 09:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz It is yeat another personal attack, based on "guess work". LMAO ;-) | May 08 09:28 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst but if you pay attention to then, they'll carry on | May 08 09:32 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz Do you think they are also spyig at me on identi.ca and twitter then? | May 08 09:36 | |
| schestowitz | http://pavelmachek.livejournal.com/95613.html "Whoever told you that should be getting fired." | May 08 09:39 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: pavelmachek: Opensource jobs .::. Size~: 24.73 KB | May 08 09:39 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst maybe | May 08 09:40 | |
| schestowitz | http://web.archive.org/web/20070120021332/techrights.com/ | May 08 09:52 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How to remove the new sidebar in Google Search http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/google-sidebar.html Google added cruft/clutter | May 08 09:56 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=9210 | May 08 09:57 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: The US continues its reign as the king of spam .::. Size~: 21.99 KB | May 08 09:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @_the_mad_hatter Thanks for letting me know....is it working fine now? Must be a wordpress issue | May 08 10:04 | |
| schestowitz | "The controversial British MEP Farage had a plane crash on UK elections day. " http://arebentisch.wordpress.com/2010/05/07/mep-farage-plane-crash/ | May 08 10:06 |
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| schestowitz | http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/05/07/0455238/Wales-Supports-Purging-Porn-From-Wikipedia | May 08 10:08 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Slashdot News Story | Wales Supports Purging Porn From Wikipedia .::. Size~: 169.89 KB | May 08 10:08 |
| schestowitz | Fox daemonised Wikipedia | May 08 10:09 |
| schestowitz | What a bunch of asshats | May 08 10:09 |
| schestowitz | Murdoch | May 08 10:09 |
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| schestowitz | I looked deepers into that multiple links tool and found it a tad problematic. I'll look around to find something else | May 08 10:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Bought things for delivery today from @ebuyerdotcom one item has no consignment number and parcelforce.com down. :( | May 08 10:20 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] panic over, parcels from @ebuyerdotcom have arrived! New toys :) | May 08 10:34 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Un(?)intended consequences dept: #Belgium #burqa ban can make life much *worse* for observant Islam women. Clues... http://ff.im/k18OL | May 08 10:36 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Un(?)intended consequences dept: #Belgium #burqa... - Toby Thain - FriendFeed .::. Size~: 6.88 KB | May 08 10:36 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz Odd, you also frequently complain (and rightfully so) about the slander Microsoft agents sp … http://identi.ca/notice/31476892 | May 08 10:40 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] On reflection. The people who framed the #Belgium #burqa ban are complete, utter, out-of-touch idiots. #islam http://ff.im/k19B4 | May 08 10:43 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: On reflection. The people who framed the #Belgium... - Toby Thain - FriendFeed .::. Size~: 6.8 KB | May 08 10:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Criminalising behaviour X works neither for those who CHOOSE X nor for those who are NOT FREE to choose NOT-X.... http://ff.im/k1aho | May 08 10:48 | |
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| schestowitz | I'm trying to figure out how to post links better. ... "@schestowitz It would have been better if it opened the links straight away rather than take you to their homepage again" | May 08 10:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst so I'm not a good example :-) | May 08 10:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] My work is licensed ether GPL v3 or Creative Commons v3 BY-SA.. HELLO!!! | May 08 10:59 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] I wonder why people who have nothing in comon with #GNU #Linux #hacking and commercial record companies are following me... | May 08 11:00 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] comp.os.linux.advocacy - still the same Microsoft faithful spouting the same insulting text..nothing changes #microsoft #mvp #usenet #cola | May 08 11:03 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] @ml2mst: probably spammers that are just waiting for the right moment to send you a message | May 08 11:03 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] @ml2mst: or they just follow you so you try to know who they are and maybe click on their links... | May 08 11:04 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Its a shame,there are decent contributors to COLA who get interrupted by bitter MS faithful who can't stand choice in the OS market #mvp | May 08 11:05 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @ruiseabra Agreed, yet most geeks are very picky on klicking links. Poor suits :-) | May 08 11:10 | |
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| MinceR | how are you gentlemen !! | May 08 11:19 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz Don't worry Roy, neither of us is responsible for the lies Microsoft agents spread about us. Most of the time we ignore it... | May 08 11:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] The #openmoko #freerunner would have been a resounding success if the software then worked as fine as it does now with #shrproject. Grats! | May 08 11:28 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Odd, #fox runs ostensibly favourable piece covering REGULATION of drop-side cribs.... http://ff.im/k1ef6 | May 08 11:30 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] @_Goblin Something's weird, blank page in Firefox, looks fine in Safari. | May 08 11:43 | |
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| Omar87 | Is it that hard to install CentOS? A friend of mine is trying to install it, but she's not sure what packages to install. Any advice? | May 08 11:57 |
| Omar87 | Also, the CentOS irc channel sucks big time, I just be registered for it or something. | May 08 11:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Gosh, I am so happy with my AthlonXP running #Kubuntu 10.04. The 23" LCD screen is conneted via HDMI to GeForce FX5500 GPU | May 08 12:02 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @_the_mad_hatter Ive just checked with Firefox and it seems ok....what ver are you using? Has the problem fixed itself? | May 08 12:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right, off to give a talk....back shortly. | May 08 12:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Interesting bug with elm_bubble rendering http://is.gd/bZXLP #enlightenment | May 08 12:29 | |
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| oiaohm | Most days you are better of with the version cern uses. Omar87 | May 08 12:30 |
| oiaohm | Than CentOS. It use to be good. Omar87 | May 08 12:30 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] @_Goblin FF 3.6. Checked some other WordPress blogs, and it's only yours that won't display, and only in FF. Computers. ARGH. | May 08 12:41 | |
| MinceR | Scientific Linux? | May 08 12:44 |
| MinceR | hm, actually SLC | May 08 12:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Oh and yes im back...30 minutes debate....great stuff | May 08 12:57 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @_the_mad_hatter Ive run it in 3.5.7....no issue...I hope this is maybe just a wordpress thing.....3.6 with the issue? | May 08 12:58 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] I use Macs for work, Linux for education, and Windows for Solitaire. -Lorca Hanns #quote | May 08 13:07 | |
| schestowitz | Nice new video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANfvjNob3Qo&feature=digest | May 08 14:18 |
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| MinceR | but solitaire runs on gnu/linux too! | May 08 14:19 |
| MinceR | then again, i can't really expect someone who uses macs for "work" to realize that ;) | May 08 14:19 |
| cubezzz | there's almost no laptops at all that work with coreboot | May 08 14:22 |
| cubezzz | and according to the coreboot devs, it's getting harder to support new hardware | May 08 14:23 |
| cubezzz | no datasheets in a lot of cases too | May 08 14:23 |
| cubezzz | maybe linutop sells hardware with coreboot already installed | May 08 14:25 |
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| cubezzz | there' the rocky III :) | May 08 14:34 |
| oiaohm | cubezzz: Its not just the new hardware. | May 08 14:35 |
| oiaohm | Its the new cpus as well. cubezzz | May 08 14:35 |
| oiaohm | You would be notincing that motherboards are getting more cpu picky. | May 08 14:35 |
| cubezzz | well I'll run older hardware or Roda RK886EX | May 08 14:36 |
| cubezzz | it looks really nice | May 08 14:36 |
| cubezzz | rugged laptop with coreboot installed already | May 08 14:37 |
| oiaohm | I suspect I will build my own portable | May 08 14:37 |
| MinceR | how? | May 08 14:40 |
| oiaohm | Not that hard when you have access to rapid prototyping and computer controlled milling. MinceR | May 08 14:41 |
| MinceR | ic | May 08 14:41 |
| oiaohm | And there are a lot of small boards around todo to use as a base. | May 08 14:42 |
| MinceR | i don't :> | May 08 14:42 |
| oiaohm | I like the Lithium iron phosphate batteries | May 08 14:43 |
| oiaohm | No matter what you do to them they will not explode. MinceR | May 08 14:43 |
| MinceR | that's nice | May 08 14:44 |
| MinceR | why aren't they widely used? afaik only the XO-1 uses them | May 08 14:44 |
| oiaohm | When new the other types have larger cap. | May 08 14:46 |
| oiaohm | But after 1 year of use Lithium iron phospate are basically the same as when you got them. | May 08 14:46 |
| oiaohm | And the others are basically borked in compare to Lithium iron phospate. | May 08 14:47 |
| MinceR | ic | May 08 14:47 |
| oiaohm | Ok at worst 0.1 percent lose in cap over 12 months with Lithium iron phospate. | May 08 14:47 |
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| oiaohm | Basically there are no real advantage after 12 months of using the other Lithiums. | May 08 14:48 |
| oiaohm | But when you want to claim like 8 hours run time and the like and don't care how long the battery last the others are good. MinceR | May 08 14:48 |
| MinceR | ic | May 08 14:49 |
| oiaohm | Basically dumb consumer problem. MinceR | May 08 14:49 |
| oiaohm | Read max possiable life not how good its going to be for the life time of the device. | May 08 14:49 |
| oiaohm | I might even just build myself a old school labtop in a transport case if I am particularly lazy. MinceR | May 08 14:51 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if i know what that is | May 08 14:51 |
| MinceR | like the SX-64? :> | May 08 14:52 |
| MinceR | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_SX-64 | May 08 14:52 |
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| MinceR | bbl | May 08 14:52 |
| oiaohm | a Labtop is really old school take a standard motherboard and put it in a transport case. Do the same with screen and power supply. | May 08 14:53 |
| oiaohm | Add a few batteries and you are basically done MinceR | May 08 14:53 |
| oiaohm | http://www.casesandmore.com/Shop-All-Shipping-and-Transport-Cases-C297642.html Transport cases. MinceR | May 08 14:55 |
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| MinceR | ic | May 08 14:56 |
| oiaohm | Right size one you can fit 19 inch screen in lid. | May 08 14:57 |
| oiaohm | No problems. | May 08 14:57 |
| oiaohm | Yes I know building a portable computer that way is kinda over kill. | May 08 14:58 |
| oiaohm | But they are down right strong. | May 08 14:58 |
| cubezzz | bah, that's nothing | May 08 15:00 |
| oiaohm | The fun part is I know a maker of them so I can custom order a case as well. MinceR | May 08 15:00 |
| cubezzz | I'm bulding my own portable plus writing an OS from stratch :) | May 08 15:00 |
| oiaohm | I am just spoit for options. | May 08 15:00 |
| oiaohm | I could mill my own case. I can order case. I could be insane and do my own motherboard. | May 08 15:01 |
| oiaohm | In one way you are most likely lucky cubezzz you don't have as many options as me. | May 08 15:01 |
| cubezzz | really I just want a desktop with coreboot and open video driver | May 08 15:02 |
| cubezzz | should be doable | May 08 15:02 |
| oiaohm | Heck if I am really lazy I could order a Mil portable system. | May 08 15:03 |
| oiaohm | case | May 08 15:03 |
| oiaohm | And just fit it out. | May 08 15:03 |
| cubezzz | I think some prototypers just used wood | May 08 15:03 |
| oiaohm | Done that in past. | May 08 15:04 |
| oiaohm | Not really that wise. | May 08 15:04 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, what do you use now? | May 08 15:04 |
| cubezzz | for your main computer... | May 08 15:05 |
| oiaohm | My main is old. | May 08 15:05 |
| oiaohm | Old duel core 939 | May 08 15:05 |
| oiaohm | It good enough. | May 08 15:05 |
| oiaohm | Will have to upgrade at some point most likely when blender support video card rendering. | May 08 15:06 |
| cubezzz | nothing wrong with old | May 08 15:06 |
| oiaohm | Really I am looking at building something more power effective for internet stuff. | May 08 15:06 |
| oiaohm | Biggest issue with wood case is no shielding unless you add that. Some area I go people have there laptops killed because of lack of shielding. | May 08 15:08 |
| oiaohm | Also wood case has a habit if abused for some reason of breaking up. | May 08 15:09 |
| oiaohm | Instead of deforming. | May 08 15:09 |
| oiaohm | Reason why transport cases make such good bases cubezzz | May 08 15:09 |
| oiaohm | They are designed not to breakup. | May 08 15:09 |
| cubezzz | will you use coreboot for the bios? | May 08 15:10 |
| oiaohm | Does not worry me either way. cubezzz | May 08 15:10 |
| oiaohm | Biggest problem is deciding on what the final size will be for me. | May 08 15:13 |
| cubezzz | Amiga 1200 in a new case maybe :) | May 08 15:14 |
| oiaohm | I have everything from a case that includes a table down to something that can be used like a laptop. | May 08 15:14 |
| oiaohm | I have used the one including a table before for lan gaming. | May 08 15:14 |
| oiaohm | Ie just leave me a area X by Y and I have the rest. | May 08 15:15 |
| oiaohm | Yes it even includes the chair. | May 08 15:15 |
| oiaohm | To use with the table. | May 08 15:15 |
| cubezzz | I'm still using my dual slot 1 motherboard | May 08 15:20 |
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| oiaohm | I have a pent 233 I keep around for sentamental reasons. | May 08 15:21 |
| oiaohm | Its main use is book stand beside bed these days. cubezzz | May 08 15:21 |
| oiaohm | Yes it a old full tower case. | May 08 15:21 |
| cubezzz | I like the old slot 1 design | May 08 15:21 |
| oiaohm | The one with 8 5 1/4 bays. | May 08 15:22 |
| cubezzz | you won't bend any pins on the cpu with this design | May 08 15:22 |
| oiaohm | Yep the big mother old case. cubezzz | May 08 15:22 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Lightweight Servers Running #GNU #Linux Take Shape http://ur1.ca/zo7k #jeos | May 08 16:35 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Macbook Air Powered by #Gentoo #GNU #Linux http://hackr.se/linux-on-my-macbook-air/ #apple #owned | May 08 16:36 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Audiocasts: The #Linux Link Tech Show, #FLOSSWeekly http://tllts.org/mirror.php?fname=tllts_352-05-05-10.ogg http://twit.tv/floss119 | May 08 16:39 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux and #Ballnux at FLISOL #Nicaragua (Free Software Event) http://ur1.ca/zo90 http://ur1.ca/zo91 | May 08 16:42 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Versus #Windows Performance: How to Do It Right http://ur1.ca/zo9r Good point. #phoronix | May 08 16:44 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Students Learn From #Linux ; #ATI #Graphics Stack Improving http://ur1.ca/zoa5 http://ur1.ca/zoa6 | May 08 16:45 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Proponents of the empowerment of the individual ought to create a group in identi.ca | May 08 16:59 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Wine 1.1.44 is Released http://www.winehq.org/announce/1.1.44 #win32 #linux #unix | May 08 17:04 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Alien Arena 2010 is Released http://ur1.ca/zodq http://ur1.ca/zodr #games #gnu #linux | May 08 17:10 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] For those of you traveling to UDS in Belgium, you may face some travel problems, see http://is.gd/c0e8F for details #ubuntu | May 08 17:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #LinuxMint Fashion? http://www.rwdubsreviews.com/2010/05/linux-mint-scarf.html How fast the Mint grew | May 08 17:19 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #Lubuntu , a #Ubuntu Variant http://maketecheasier.com/lubuntu-review-a-lightweight-ubuntu-variant/2010/05/06 | May 08 17:19 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." ~Albert Einstein | May 08 17:19 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] @_Goblin yes, 3.6, however it's working fine now. God knows what was going on, had the same problem with Salon.com yesterday. | May 08 17:28 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Phones Running #FreeSoftware Make a Difference http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source/open-source-solves-the-mobile-app-dev-dilemma-949 | May 08 17:31 | |
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| scientes | more proof that arstechnica is to technology as nytimes is to general politics (historically)\ http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/04/pot-meet-kettle-a-response-to-steve-jobs-letter-on-flash.ars | May 08 17:53 |
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| scientes | they are striving to be the internet newspaper of record | May 08 17:53 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | May 08 17:57 |
| schestowitz | No way. | May 08 17:57 |
| schestowitz | BTW: | May 08 17:57 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, this is an FSF post | May 08 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Guest post | May 08 17:58 |
| schestowitz | Technica my Arse :-) | May 08 17:58 |
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| Jose_X | hey schestowitz. | May 08 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Hi, Jose_X | May 08 18:00 |
| schestowitz | How are you? | May 08 18:00 |
| Jose_X | here is an interesting effort in the works that you may have missed: | May 08 18:00 |
| Jose_X | ok | May 08 18:00 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Midgard2 10.05 "Ratatoskr" is Out, #Moodle 2.0 in Beta http://ur1.ca/zoll http://ur1.ca/zoln | May 08 18:00 | |
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| Jose_X | http://markproffitt.com/2010/04/20/details-of-abundance-based-intellectual-property-system/ | May 08 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Is it not too old by now? | May 08 18:01 |
| schestowitz | I mean, can I bring it up now? | May 08 18:01 |
| Jose_X | it's a work in progress | May 08 18:01 |
| schestowitz | And I think I covered it indirectly | May 08 18:01 |
| Jose_X | it's actually a rewrite of an earlier proposal.. so it was done in the past month I think | May 08 18:01 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Details of Abundance Based Intellectual Property System | Mark Proffitt .::. Size~: 47.88 KB | May 08 18:02 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] How closed source hurts GUI development and #innovation : http://tinyurl.com/2vdmeak | May 08 18:02 | |
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| Jose_X | i mention it not as news but as something to keep eye on and bring to attention of readers | May 08 18:02 |
| Jose_X | it's a proposal that aims to improve the patent system in a number of important ways | May 08 18:02 |
| cubezzz | May 08 18:02 | |
| cubezzz | we have largely closed source bios still | May 08 18:03 |
| Jose_X | >> This system changes an artificial scarcity intellectual property system to an abundance oriented recognition for innovation system. | May 08 18:03 |
| Jose_X | Please leave comments. I encourage people to point out potential flaws and enhancements. Please share this article. I’ve very interested in presenting this and other ideas to governments and other organizations for use in an overall innovation policy. | May 08 18:03 |
| Jose_X | >> How well does this solve existing problems? | May 08 18:04 |
| Jose_X | 1. Current system can be used to block use of an idea. Solved | May 08 18:04 |
| Jose_X | 2. Trying to sell your idea gives it to the people most likely and able to steal it. Solved | May 08 18:04 |
| Jose_X | 3. Inventors are at a disadvantage to license patents to established businesses who have financial resources to fight inventors in court. Solved | May 08 18:04 |
| Jose_X | 4. Current IP law pits inventors against manufactures and marketers, they are in a win-lose relationship. Solved | May 08 18:04 |
| Jose_X | 5. Current system encourages per item fees causing barriers to entry and inflating prices. Solved | May 08 18:04 |
| Jose_X | 6. Avoid disruption. Yes This system could be implemented in parallel to the existing monopoly approach. States could even do it within the USA. | May 08 18:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Windows Compatibility Approaches #BSD Desktops http://ur1.ca/zom5 | May 08 18:04 | |
| Jose_X | The essential point is to tax corporate profits (income) and use the profits to distribute to patent owners | May 08 18:05 |
| Jose_X | Everyone else can use the inventions to their liking. | May 08 18:05 |
| Jose_X | So, since you are paying an innovation tax, you are encouraged to leverage existing innovations to help you profit more. | May 08 18:06 |
| cubezzz | I'm wondering if we ever had open bios in the past | May 08 18:06 |
| Jose_X | This promotes competition, so obviously those that support the existing monopoly based protectionist based system might potentially really hate it. | May 08 18:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenDLP Goes with GPLv3 http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/60895 | May 08 18:07 | |
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| Jose_X | I should state that this lowers costs overall in terms of lawsuits. there are some extra costs. however opportunity costs of monopolies disappear. | May 08 18:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #TheEconomist Decides to Embrace Freedom Software http://ur1.ca/z4zs http://ur1.ca/zon1 smart move | May 08 18:11 | |
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| schestowitz | Jose_X: I think I saw that | May 08 18:12 |
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| schestowitz | Did Against Monopoly cover it? | May 08 18:12 |
| schestowitz | [I like that site, found via glynmoody] | May 08 18:12 |
| schestowitz | [18:08] <Jose_X> I should state that this lowers costs overall in terms of lawsuits. there are some extra costs. however opportunity costs of monopolies disappear. | May 08 18:13 |
| Jose_X | techdirt covered the older version | May 08 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Jose_X: did you see my post re taxpayers' funded patents? | May 08 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Jose_X: yeah | May 08 18:13 |
| Jose_X | i got this link from a comment left in that article .. which is some weeks old | May 08 18:13 |
| schestowitz | I like techdirt too | May 08 18:13 |
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| schestowitz | Inadvertedly, techrights has a style similar to that of techdirt | May 08 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Since before I even knew about that site | May 08 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Groklaw is just vast court documents | May 08 18:14 |
| schestowitz | That's its 'signature' | May 08 18:14 |
| Jose_X | point me to the post.. the idea might be very (perhaps VERY) old but one has to wonder why exactly is it ont getting attention | May 08 18:14 |
| schestowitz | High quality linux sites are rare now | May 08 18:15 |
| schestowitz | linux.com is no more | May 08 18:15 |
| schestowitz | LDN is sort of gone | May 08 18:15 |
| Jose_X | " did you see my post re taxpayers' funded patents?" | May 08 18:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Glass Half Full at #Oracle : ZFS, VirtualBox, OpenOffice.org http://ur1.ca/zgf4 http://ur1.ca/zoo4 http://ur1.ca/zj2r | May 08 18:18 | |
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| schestowitz | Jose_X: CSIRO | May 08 18:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #Ruby on Rails and Merb http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/interviews/yehuda-katz-on-merging-into-merb/ #ror | May 08 18:20 | |
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| cubezzz | umm | May 08 18:21 |
| cubezzz | wow, coreboot on pc engine?? | May 08 18:22 |
| cubezzz | must be a different pc engine | May 08 18:22 |
| cubezzz | btw the coreboot guys give sony laptops the thumbs down | May 08 18:27 |
| cubezzz | very closed and very hard to port coreboot to sony hardware | May 08 18:27 |
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| DaemonFC | I wonder if I could get on here through Mibbit | May 08 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | trying to load Mibbit on my phone :P | May 08 19:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] My quick take on Linux Uptime http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/8c847e5ac19d6984# | May 08 19:08 | |
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| schestowitz | mibbit is blocked by freenode, DaemonFC | May 08 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | think I used it to get in here on my Wii once | May 08 19:09 |
| cubezzz | huh, Stallman originally used Thinkpad T23 | May 08 19:10 |
| cubezzz | before he switched to Lemote | May 08 19:10 |
| ender2070 | so what | May 08 19:11 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz http://bit.ly/dwSSHz this is how it looks like when i dont follow twitter for 18 hours xD" @andriusbentkus :-) is that good or bad? | May 08 19:11 |
| ender2070 | before the lemote there wasn't a 'free' pc | May 08 19:11 |
| schestowitz | Is there s/w that opens links automatically? | May 08 19:11 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: beagleboard? | May 08 19:11 |
| ender2070 | was that out before rms got his lemote? | May 08 19:12 |
| cubezzz | ender2070, that's just not true | May 08 19:12 |
| cubezzz | T23 is even on the list at coreboot | May 08 19:13 |
| ender2070 | so the T23 allowed him to 'make' it free? | May 08 19:13 |
| ender2070 | thats fine, who cares then | May 08 19:13 |
| cubezzz | I don't know why he switched | May 08 19:13 |
| ender2070 | he wanted something smaller? | May 08 19:14 |
| cubezzz | possibly | May 08 19:14 |
| ender2070 | perhaps he wanted the netbook style laptop | May 08 19:14 |
| ender2070 | thats one of the reasons i might consider a netbook | May 08 19:14 |
| ender2070 | i want an arm one though, or one of the really good atoms | May 08 19:15 |
| schestowitz | "Everything that is free is good, right? xD" http://twitter.com/andriusbentkus/statuses/13621297055 heh. It's nice..... some people do follow my paths of links | May 08 19:16 |
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| schestowitz | ender2070: he had a thinpad | May 08 19:16 |
| schestowitz | thinkpad | May 08 19:16 |
| ender2070 | some ppl called it a 'thinpad' | May 08 19:16 |
| ender2070 | look at the pictures of it :) | May 08 19:17 |
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| cubezzz | thinkpad's are OK | May 08 19:18 |
| cubezzz | but D945GCLF might be worth buying | May 08 19:20 |
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| ender2070 | D945GCLF ? | May 08 19:20 |
| ender2070 | sounds like something with an intel 945 chipset | May 08 19:21 |
| cubezzz | Intel mini-itx board, it's coreboot compatible and has GMA 950 built-in video | May 08 19:21 |
| ender2070 | which wouldn't be worth buying -ever | May 08 19:21 |
| cubezzz | oh? why not? | May 08 19:21 |
| ender2070 | intel 945 chipset | May 08 19:21 |
| ender2070 | =fail | May 08 19:21 |
| ender2070 | p35 has been out for 3 years now at least | May 08 19:22 |
| ender2070 | 945 is even older, and intel wasn't good till p35 | May 08 19:22 |
| cubezzz | ender2070, can you suggest anything you like that works with coreboot? | May 08 19:24 |
| ender2070 | why dont u just get a lemote | May 08 19:24 |
| ender2070 | or something arm based | May 08 19:25 |
| ender2070 | i thought u hated x86 | May 08 19:25 |
| cubezzz | well, I'm tryin to decide | May 08 19:25 |
| cubezzz | coreboot guys say that new images will be available soon | May 08 19:26 |
| cubezzz | for netbooks too | May 08 19:26 |
| cubezzz | so I may just wait | May 08 19:26 |
| ender2070 | M2A-VM | May 08 19:26 |
| ender2070 | best board there | May 08 19:27 |
| ender2070 | AM2+ socket | May 08 19:27 |
| cubezzz | hmmm | May 08 19:27 |
| ender2070 | AMD Sempron™ / Athlon™ 64 / FX / X2 | May 08 19:27 |
| ender2070 | AMD 690G chipset | May 08 19:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | heh | May 08 19:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | why bother getting am2+? | May 08 19:28 |
| ender2070 | amd x2's are dirt cheap too | May 08 19:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | get am3 and a cheap chip | May 08 19:28 |
| ender2070 | hes looking for coreboot compatible | May 08 19:28 |
| ender2070 | http://www.coreboot.org/Supported_Motherboards | May 08 19:28 |
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| Diablo-D3 | ahh | May 08 19:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | there are very few. | May 08 19:29 |
| ender2070 | yeah and all old | May 08 19:29 |
| ender2070 | not a single i7 there | May 08 19:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | that list is somewhat out of date btw | May 08 19:29 |
| schestowitz | USD is now weak.... one EUro is $1.4 | May 08 19:30 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RT: @lwnnet: Emacs 23.2 released http://lwn.net/Articles/386869/rss | May 08 19:32 | |
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| DaemonFC | 50 degrees, in May | May 08 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | you're shitting me | May 08 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 08 19:32 |
| *DaemonFC grabs a hoodie | May 08 19:32 | |
| cubezzz | ok, I was wrong about T23 | May 08 19:35 |
| cubezzz | not supported by coreboot | May 08 19:35 |
| ender2070 | diablo-d3 - yes i love ur weak USD | May 08 19:36 |
| ender2070 | diablo-d3 - my server was cheaper this year thanks to the low dollar | May 08 19:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | ender2070: who you doing business with? | May 08 19:36 |
| ender2070 | www.frozenonline.com | May 08 19:36 |
| ender2070 | i have a vps | May 08 19:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | hmm expensive | May 08 19:37 |
| ender2070 | oh? | May 08 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, you figure the TV will allow the RCA audio out if I'm watching something through the HDMI input? | May 08 19:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | I can get 128mb, 256mb of swap on dedicated fast storage, 5gb of disk, and basically unlimited bandwidth for $7.49/mo | May 08 19:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | vs that company's $10 | May 08 19:38 |
| cubezzz | just host yourself via a freenet | May 08 19:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | or 128/384, 10gb, $10/mo | May 08 19:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | ender2070: move your vps to rapidxen | May 08 19:39 |
| cubezzz | then you're just paying for broadband | May 08 19:39 |
| ender2070 | looking into it | May 08 19:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | ender2070: rapidxen does 2mbps/sec 95% maximum, but they only curb people who abuse it. | May 08 19:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not a hard maximum | May 08 19:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | and thats 95% per month, btw | May 08 19:40 |
| ender2070 | i have faster than 2mps | May 08 19:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | you dont understand how percentiles work, do you? | May 08 19:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT: @sagarun @lwnnet: Emacs 23.2 released http://lwn.net/Articles/386869/rss | May 08 19:40 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | you have to keep your traffic under 2mbps average for 95% of your slowest traffic. | May 08 19:40 |
| ender2070 | not sure | May 08 19:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | and like I said, the owner only applies this to abusive customers | May 08 19:41 |
| ender2070 | im paying $30/month for mine | May 08 19:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not uncommon, btw, for people to hit above 100mbps | May 08 19:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | you just have to find a client that can download that fast | May 08 19:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | and he maxed out gigabit when moving between facilities that wern't local to each other | May 08 19:43 |
| ender2070 | 60GB hdd, 512mb ram, AMD X2 4400+ (I have one core) | May 08 19:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | that'd give you 512mb, 20gb, and a single core on some brand new phenom II box | May 08 19:43 |
| ender2070 | my host meteres total bandwidth, not what speeds I can hit | May 08 19:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | or one of the new i7 xeon boxes | May 08 19:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | ender2070: rapdixen meteres total bandwidth as well | May 08 19:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | 2mbps is not a cap | May 08 19:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | 2mbps 95%/month is a measurement of usage over a period of time | May 08 19:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | ender2070: to mathematically calculate this, take your 5% highest bandwidth time, and remove it from the statistics for the month | May 08 19:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | then average the rest | May 08 19:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | it should be under 2mbps. | May 08 19:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | ender2070: and like I said | May 08 19:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | its in the TOS to deal with abusive customers. | May 08 19:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | he has many customers who go far beyond that because they aren't pedophiles, idiots, or people seeding torrents. | May 08 19:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | ender2070: btw, do you know who nenolod is? | May 08 19:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | big FOSS coder dude | May 08 19:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | for example, hes behind the IRCD that freenode uses | May 08 19:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | nenolod owns rapidxen. | May 08 19:47 |
| ender2070 | oh thats pretty cool | May 08 19:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | hes written tons of software | May 08 19:48 |
| ender2070 | i just host some websites, not seeding torrents | May 08 19:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | audacious is his, hes now has irssi commit access | May 08 19:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | you know the new Steam Linux client that may or may not exist? Valve hired him to port it two years ago, thats almost all his work. | May 08 19:48 |
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| Diablo-D3 | and the osx client is based on his work | May 08 19:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | he also ported Source as well | May 08 19:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | which wasnt _that_ hard, Valve tends to write decent code, and they have an OpenGL renderer, its just not used on any Windows title | May 08 19:49 |
| cubezzz | this might be of interest: | May 08 19:50 |
| cubezzz | http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/systems | May 08 19:50 |
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| Diablo-D3 | that list is old | May 08 19:51 |
| ender2070 | thats quite interesting | May 08 19:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dont know why they care about that anymore | May 08 19:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | its far easier to just get rid of x86 altogether | May 08 19:52 |
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| cubezzz | the word on the street is "880G based notebooks will be available (soon)" | May 08 19:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | probably | May 08 19:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats just simple deduction | May 08 19:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | retail products appear about 3 months after the mobos | May 08 19:54 |
| cubezzz | on the coreboot list, there's Intel, AMD and VIA | May 08 19:58 |
| cubezzz | and that's it, no ARM or anything else | May 08 19:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | um | May 08 20:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | you do realize ARMs dont boot that way, right? | May 08 20:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | they boot entire OSes as their firmware | May 08 20:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | sometimes, its right in a traditional firmware image | May 08 20:01 |
| cubezzz | ah I see | May 08 20:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | sometimes you just have something like redboot as a bootloader | May 08 20:01 |
| cubezzz | right, right | May 08 20:02 |
| cubezzz | that's what the zaurus does | May 08 20:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, exactly | May 08 20:03 |
| cubezzz | forgot about that :) | May 08 20:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | PPCs and Alphas and Sparcs and whatnot do basically the same thing | May 08 20:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | you have an openfirmware firmware that boots in like a second | May 08 20:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | it spends more time for the hardware to spin up than it does booting | May 08 20:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: this whole open source bios shit is rather bullshit | May 08 20:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | that stuff only exists on x86 | May 08 20:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | everything else simply doesnt need it | May 08 20:07 |
| ender2070 | thats why i told him to get that lemote he wants | May 08 20:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | the firmware really is part of the hardware in those cases | May 08 20:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | or you have shit like redboot | May 08 20:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | which really is open source | May 08 20:08 |
| ender2070 | on another note, linus used to own macintosh ppc hardware | May 08 20:08 |
| ender2070 | it was his main machine for a while | May 08 20:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah | May 08 20:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | it ran yellow dog | May 08 20:09 |
| ender2070 | then fedora ppc | May 08 20:09 |
| ender2070 | he replaced the entire machine when fedora ppc discontinued iirc | May 08 20:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Crackers Evolve to Dodge Anti-Virus Software in #Windows http://ur1.ca/zpa4 on vulnerabilities that #Microsoft conceals from the public | May 08 20:09 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | yellow dog was a redhat "fork" built for ppc | May 08 20:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | so going from redhat to redhat isnt strange | May 08 20:09 |
| ender2070 | yeah | May 08 20:10 |
| ender2070 | diablo-d3 - frozenonline is virtualbox ose based, I noticed rapidxen is xen based. any difference? | May 08 20:12 |
| ender2070 | xen vs virtualbox ose | May 08 20:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | vbox sucks for this purpose | May 08 20:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | btw, its not all xen | May 08 20:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | he has boxes running a specially modified kvm | May 08 20:13 |
| ender2070 | says he has a waiting list for kvm | May 08 20:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah | May 08 20:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | but you can sometimes jump the list | May 08 20:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | hang out in #systeminplace on irc.staticbox.net more | May 08 20:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | ender2070: he somewhat dislikes what xen has become | May 08 20:14 |
| ender2070 | i do too | May 08 20:14 |
| ender2070 | i love where kvm is going | May 08 20:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | its still the best product, but now hes interested in making kvm a viable replacement | May 08 20:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | he basically has a kvm that acts like xen | May 08 20:15 |
| ender2070 | with redhat backing kvm now instead of xen i see this | May 08 20:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | as in, it doesnt boot an OS | May 08 20:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | its kind of like a naked linux kernel all by itself | May 08 20:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | all it does is be a hypervisor. | May 08 20:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | well, the problem with hypervisors is they basically reimplement kernel functions | May 08 20:16 |
| ender2070 | yeah | May 08 20:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | everything a hypervisor does, linux already does | May 08 20:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | giving it actual hypervisor functionality is trivial if you know how to write hypervisors | May 08 20:16 |
| ender2070 | so exactly, just make linux the hypervisor | May 08 20:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | also, with kvm in the kernel, Microsoft cant touch it | May 08 20:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | Microsoft has destroyed Xen | May 08 20:17 |
| ender2070 | they did? | May 08 20:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | well | May 08 20:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | they bought citrix | May 08 20:17 |
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| Diablo-D3 | citrix owns xensource inc | May 08 20:17 |
| ender2070 | ahhhh | May 08 20:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | xensource inc manages the xen branded xen. | May 08 20:17 |
| ender2070 | so its an ms product | May 08 20:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | and there are no xen forks | May 08 20:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | it didnt used to be | May 08 20:17 |
| ender2070 | it is now though, correct? | May 08 20:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | basically | May 08 20:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | its open source, but still icky | May 08 20:18 |
| ender2070 | yeah so im not gonna touch it | May 08 20:18 |
| ender2070 | lol | May 08 20:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | well | May 08 20:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | what the final straw was | May 08 20:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | he bought a bunch of very expensive machines | May 08 20:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | xen crashes periodically and he cant fix it | May 08 20:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | and he knows the xen code inside out | May 08 20:18 |
| ender2070 | why cant he fix it | May 08 20:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | he maintains a personal xen fork just to unfuck it | May 08 20:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | he can code rings around those faggots | May 08 20:19 |
| ender2070 | oh shit | May 08 20:19 |
| ender2070 | lol | May 08 20:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | its some retarded hardware interaction bug on AMD machines | May 08 20:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | its something they've done very very retarded and the only way to fix it is to recode that whole thing | May 08 20:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | and he keeps trying tp push his patches upstream and they very rarely commit them | May 08 20:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | so hes given up | May 08 20:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | turning KVM into a viable enterprise hypervisor is much better | May 08 20:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dont blame him | May 08 20:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | hes been fighting them for years | May 08 20:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | xen is still superior, but whats the point if its getting worse | May 08 20:22 |
| ender2070 | kvm will end up being superior | May 08 20:23 |
| ender2070 | i already thought it was | May 08 20:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not great | May 08 20:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | but now major companies are backing it | May 08 20:24 |
| ender2070 | xen won't even be an option in RHEL 6 | May 08 20:24 |
| ender2070 | redhat won't be backing it anymore | May 08 20:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dont blame them | May 08 20:25 |
| ender2070 | kvm just got some new features too which I think give them an advantage | May 08 20:25 |
| ender2070 | such as the memory sharing feature, when multiple images are running the same software | May 08 20:26 |
| ender2070 | heres irony for you | May 08 20:32 |
| ender2070 | i couldnt get opensolaris to run on the version of virtualbox running on frozenonline | May 08 20:32 |
| ender2070 | it would boot the installer but nothing else would really work, and it was extremely slow compared to running it at home | May 08 20:33 |
| ender2070 | slowlaris earned its nickname | May 08 20:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats the funny part | May 08 20:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | solaris, as a kernel, is actually quite well designed | May 08 20:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | ender2070: btw, their shit must be bugged | May 08 20:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | Ive ran opensolaris under vbox fine | May 08 20:34 |
| ender2070 | its an old version of virtualbox | May 08 20:35 |
| ender2070 | still 2.x i think | May 08 20:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah | May 08 20:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats like last years shit | May 08 20:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | or more like two years | May 08 20:36 |
| ender2070 | yeah its kind of old but i havent had any complaints | May 08 20:36 |
| ender2070 | im running ubuntu server on it too | May 08 20:36 |
| ender2070 | i plan to migrate away from ubuntu though | May 08 20:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dont like what ubuntu has turned into | May 08 20:37 |
| ender2070 | me neither | May 08 20:38 |
| ender2070 | hence my plans to move away | May 08 20:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | its turned into something thats not debian | May 08 20:38 |
| ender2070 | i dont want to be in their statistics | May 08 20:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | I have used debian for 10 years | May 08 20:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | I do not like what I see in ubuntu. | May 08 20:38 |
| kevin009 | i have been looking into switching into arch | May 08 20:38 |
| ender2070 | I like Fedora better and i'm going to be using something based on it for my server | May 08 20:39 |
| ender2070 | or even Fedora itself | May 08 20:39 |
| kevin009 | i like arch because it doesn't ram pulseaudio down my throat | May 08 20:39 |
| kevin009 | it is really no longer optional in ubuntu unless you use a PPA to fix the breakage that is a result of removing it | May 08 20:39 |
| ender2070 | i like fedora because it rams pulseaudio down my throat *properly and just working* | May 08 20:40 |
| ender2070 | pavucontrol is needed, and doesnt even run in ubuntu | May 08 20:40 |
| ender2070 | so i can see why people hate pulseaudio | May 08 20:40 |
| ender2070 | even tho its ubuntu/canonical's fault its broken | May 08 20:41 |
| kevin009 | well yeah you have a point. there are tuns of bugs that should have been fixed, rather than starting another music store IMO | May 08 20:41 |
| kevin009 | but i like the way he is trying to shorten boot times | May 08 20:41 |
| ender2070 | the music store will generate them some money | May 08 20:41 |
| kevin009 | shutdowns are incredibly fast! | May 08 20:41 |
| ender2070 | the bastards dont offer flac either, just mp3 | May 08 20:42 |
| kevin009 | i'll bet that's because of the industry wanting to sell you mp3s today and sell you lossless files tomorrow | May 08 20:42 |
| kevin009 | gotta have an upgrade path | May 08 20:42 |
| ender2070 | kevin009 - the store canonical buys from offers flac | May 08 20:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Dear #ashcloud that art in heaven, in this direful economic season, for Portugal's productivity, please keep the Pope away. Amen. | May 08 20:44 | |
| ender2070 | diablo-d3 thanks for the rapidxen info | May 08 20:55 |
| ender2070 | diablo-d3 - one of the things I like that they offer is permission to run a mail server | May 08 20:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | ender2070: you know why he does? | May 08 20:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | he knows the guys who run all the different BHLs. | May 08 20:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | as in | May 08 20:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you spam | May 08 20:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | you will be in a world of pain | May 08 20:58 |
| ender2070 | BHLs? | May 08 20:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | blackhole lists | May 08 21:00 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Apple Does Not Support Standards; Neither Does #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/zphp #html5 #theora #swpats | May 08 21:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | heh | May 08 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | my PC speakers hooked u to the TV | May 08 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | sounds pretty damned good | May 08 21:02 |
| *DaemonFC is listening to the XM radio channels :P | May 08 21:02 | |
| ender2070 | ohh ok | May 08 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | plenty of channels to torture asshole with I guess, if he doesn't behave | May 08 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | there's 5 channels of country for example | May 08 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | Retro Disco | May 08 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | May 08 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | heh, Gorillaz | May 08 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | Stylo | May 08 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 08 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, Bruce Willis is getting old | May 08 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | the high definition really brings that out | May 08 21:10 |
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| amarsh04 | back in a few, restarting X | May 08 21:17 |
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| ender2070 | everyone is getting old | May 08 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | For Mon: Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl | May 08 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | yay! | May 08 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | on Blu Ray no less :) | May 08 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | I think I did download that on Bittorrent when it was released on DVD originally | May 08 21:23 |
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| DaemonFC | I wonder why I got the HD Etras Pack | May 08 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | it's not on my bill anywhere | May 08 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | the My Account thing says I can sign up for it but don't have it | May 08 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | oh well, I'll take it if it's free ;) | May 08 21:24 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] About 8 stories on the subject of software patents and sometimes patents in general http://ur1.ca/zpr7 #swpats | May 08 21:43 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Patents Roundup: Defensive Patent License, KnowRi§ht, Patent Overhaul Bill Stalled, Patent Absurdity, Brad Feld, and Pirate Party | Techrights .::. Size~: 86.71 KB | May 08 21:43 |
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| ender2070 | anyways | May 08 21:48 |
| ender2070 | pwnage.ca will be migrated to Fedora 13 upon release | May 08 21:48 |
| ender2070 | perhaps even with btrfs | May 08 21:48 |
| ender2070 | if i feel like it | May 08 21:48 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody: The Defensive Patent License makes patents less evil for open source - http://bit.ly/dCYSNn nice try, but misguided #swpats | May 08 21:48 | |
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| ender2070 | im out, later guys | May 08 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 2000 | May 08 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 08 21:49 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @slashdot: Google Attorney Slams ACTA Copyright Treaty http://bit.ly/bKAaN3 | May 08 21:49 | |
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| schestowitz | ender2070: laters | May 08 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Holy c* | May 08 21:53 |
| schestowitz | Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9bkjEw1nE4 | May 08 21:53 |
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| DaemonFC | the Vindaloo Beast | May 08 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 08 21:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] About to watch Iron Man 2! | May 08 22:15 | |
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| MikeC | Roy | May 08 22:26 |
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| schestowitz | Hey | May 08 22:30 |
| schestowitz | Hi, Mike | May 08 22:30 |
| schestowitz | Have you signed up for the Quiz Night yet? | May 08 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | Given that God is infinite, and the Universe is also infinite...Would you like a toasted tea cake? :P | May 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | The Universe is also infinite? | May 08 22:38 |
| schestowitz | And what the heck is this "God" thing? | May 08 22:39 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Some of the latest of #Microsoft’s dishonest encroachments and how #Novell participates in this http://ur1.ca/zq2m #mono #windows | May 08 22:46 | |
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| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-20003448-38.html | May 08 22:49 |
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| schestowitz | Are there any agenda-free studies on this? | May 08 22:50 |
| schestowitz | http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/26/do-nice-gals-finish-last/?src=me&ref=business | May 08 22:52 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.dell.com/us/en/business/notebooks/vostro-v13/pd.aspx?refid=vostro-v13&s=bsd&cs=04 | May 08 22:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Can one buy a laptop from #Dell without an OS (so that MPEG tax is not included)? http://ur1.ca/xjrf That's why I buy from Novatech | May 08 22:54 | |
| schestowitz | Wow. Groklaw does not blindly defend Apple re Gizmodo | May 08 22:56 |
| schestowitz | [For a change] | May 08 22:56 |
| schestowitz | "The police who searched Jason Chen's home seized the following: A macbook, HP server, two Dell desktop computers, iPad, ThinkPad, two MacBook Pros, IOmega NAS, three external hard drives, and three flash drives. " | May 08 22:58 |
| schestowitz | This guy has a lot of gear | May 08 22:58 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: http://thepriorart.typepad.com/the_prior_art/2010/04/mobilemedia-ideas-v-apple.html#more | May 08 22:59 |
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| schestowitz | "Wow, this is a great big, tangled ball of stupidity that is hampering innovation. Personally speaking, I feel that the patent system needs to be eliminated as soon as possible for real innovation to occur." | May 08 22:59 |
| schestowitz | http://legalpad.typepad.com/my_weblog/2010/04/boies-calls-for-cheaper-trials.html "Boies said attorneys should pare cases down to their essentials early on, and that limits on discovery and on the time allowed before a case goes to trial would save time and money for the justice system." | May 08 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | Save money? | May 08 23:02 |
| schestowitz | it's *making* money this way | May 08 23:02 |
| schestowitz | http://wlflegalpulse.com/2010/05/04/brief-video-commentary-on-written-description-patent-requirement-case/ | May 08 23:12 |
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| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20004268-37.html | May 08 23:16 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] currently playing Tibia - a MMORG for Linux, thanks to an article I read on Tuxmachines..... http://tinyurl.com/b2onw8 #rpg #free | May 08 23:18 | |
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| schestowitz | 'Those considering law school might want to reconsider, said Allan Tanenbaum, chairman of an American Bar Association commission studying the impact of the economic crisis on the profession. Students take on average law-school debt of about $100,000 and, given the job market, many “have no foreseeable way to pay that back,” he said.' | May 08 23:19 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/05/06/all-schooled-up-with-no-place-to-go/ | May 08 23:19 |
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| schestowitz | "Apple (AAPL, Fortune 500) traded down 22% to $199.25 before recovering, but those trades were upheld." http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/07/markets/explaining_wall_street_turmoil/ | May 08 23:23 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6450LN20100506 | May 08 23:24 |
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| schestowitz | Groklaw links to this: http://chucksblog.emc.com/chucks_blog/2010/05/what-ipads-did-to-my-family.html | May 08 23:34 |
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| schestowitz | de facto Apple advert | May 08 23:34 |
| _goblin | evening everyone. | May 08 23:36 |
| _goblin | been distracted playing a native Linux MMORG | May 08 23:36 |
| _goblin | not a bad little game. | May 08 23:36 |
| MinceR | hay | May 08 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Try getting your Comcast modem to work without Windows or a Mac | May 08 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | Hint: It involves about an hour on hold and them trying to charge you $5 to activate it remotely | May 08 23:39 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: which one? | May 08 23:39 |
| _goblin | Tibia | May 08 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Tiberian Sun? :-) | May 08 23:40 |
| _goblin | http://www.tibia.com/mmorpg/free-multiplayer-online-role-playing-game.php | May 08 23:40 |
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| _goblin | a little primitive in the GFX but a rather nice little RPG in the theme of Runescape | May 08 23:40 |
| schestowitz | 50% female | May 08 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I once spent over 2 hours on hold with Comcast when they disabled my account for non-payment when I had a ositive credit on my account the entire time | May 08 23:41 |
| _goblin | I'll certainly be giving it more attention tomorrow. | May 08 23:41 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: why not blog about it? | May 08 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | they're fun, you spend more time on the phone trying to get them to fix things than you do using those things | May 08 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I do :P | May 08 23:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Great wedding. Love my friends. #fb | May 08 23:41 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: the wedding? | May 08 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | no | May 08 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | the Reublicans really like gay people | May 08 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | they ban gay marriage and save us all the problems they deal with | May 08 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | they're really great people :) | May 08 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | with the divorce industry built up around marriage, especially involving lawyers, you'd figure same sex marriage would be legall all over the place | May 08 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | the extra killing in lawyers fees alone, you know? | May 08 23:44 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.mandriva.com/2010/04/28/mandriva-2010-spring-backgrounds-contribution/ | May 08 23:44 |
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| schestowitz | Earlier today I found a video you might like | May 08 23:44 |
| schestowitz | From a mutual friend | May 08 23:44 |
| schestowitz | Hold on... it's in my box somewhere | May 08 23:45 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM8bfgEwblM&feature=digest | May 08 23:45 |
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| schestowitz | Bear in mind I HAVE NO WATCHED IT YET | May 08 23:45 |
| schestowitz | I saw the headline though | May 08 23:45 |
| schestowitz | */no/not | May 08 23:45 |
| schestowitz | TJ is from the south, so they raised him as Republican | May 08 23:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Wine 1.2 coming in June http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.wine.devel/77476 | May 08 23:46 | |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, Star Trek TNG on BBC | May 08 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 08 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | Mr. Data ftw! | May 08 23:47 |
| schestowitz | http://www.workswithu.com/2010/04/29/ubuntu-matt-asay-discusses-canonical-revenue-strategy/ | May 08 23:47 |
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| schestowitz | My brother gave my a hour-hour talk today about data | May 08 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The DirecTV DVR has to have an internet connection to download On Demand stuff | May 08 23:48 |
| schestowitz | Corruption prevention in Linux... turns out there's this EnyOS thing | May 08 23:49 |
| schestowitz | EnvyFS | May 08 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | I found it amusing that my satellite box is using my Comcast internet :P | May 08 23:49 |
| schestowitz | It's really stupid | May 08 23:49 |
| schestowitz | I found so many holes in the idea | May 08 23:49 |
| schestowitz | But... | May 08 23:49 |
| schestowitz | it shows how diversity in Linux helps | May 08 23:49 |
| schestowitz | Over 30 file systems | May 08 23:49 |
| schestowitz | You can combine them for robustness | May 08 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, and they all kick ass or suck | May 08 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | depending on what you need them for | May 08 23:50 |
| schestowitz | No | May 08 23:50 |
| schestowitz | Some are very good | May 08 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | makes choosing one a maddening process | May 08 23:50 |
| schestowitz | No | May 08 23:50 |
| schestowitz | There are different distros | May 08 23:50 |
| schestowitz | Or implmentations | May 08 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | Ext3 is still trumping Ext4 in some situations | May 08 23:50 |
| schestowitz | Some for servers, some for USB, some for desktops, NASes... | May 08 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | XFS can outdo BtrFS sometimes | May 08 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | talking raw performance here really | May 08 23:51 |
| schestowitz | Depending on the nature of I/O and the disks | May 08 23:51 |
| schestowitz | SSD would need something different | May 08 23:51 |
| schestowitz | But Microsoft is stuck with legacy junk | May 08 23:51 |
| schestowitz | Same with OS X | May 08 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Ext4 with no journal is supposed to be good for SSD | May 08 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | have no SSD though, so no idea personally | May 08 23:51 |
| schestowitz | SSD is hyped up | May 08 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Maybe a little lighter, that's all | May 08 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | well, aren't they supposed to be faster than hard disks? | May 08 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Flash has been around for ages, then it got hyped up with 2007 Eee PCs | May 08 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | the reason I don't have one is price | May 08 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | that's the only reason | May 08 23:52 |
| schestowitz | 4gb!! | May 08 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Eee with just 4 gigs of rumbs | May 08 23:52 |
| schestowitz | *crumbs | May 08 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | a 1 TB hard disk is about $80 | May 08 23:53 |
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| DaemonFC | a 1 TB SSD is over $1,000 | May 08 23:53 |
| schestowitz | Patents | May 08 23:53 |
| schestowitz | And production scarcity | May 08 23:53 |
| schestowitz | The price will come down | May 08 23:53 |
| schestowitz | Remember CD-R? | May 08 23:53 |
| schestowitz | Used to cost a FORTUNE | May 08 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | I've never doubted that they will take over, but people who buy the first few generations get the crappy failure-prone models that cost a fortune | May 08 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | true with jsut about anything | May 08 23:53 |
| schestowitz | You'd go to a friend's house if he had a burner when I was 12 | May 08 23:53 |
| schestowitz | LCD used to be pricey | May 08 23:54 |
| schestowitz | I got my 24'' flat screen for under 200 quid | May 08 23:54 |
| schestowitz | Made in China, works dine (DGM) | May 08 23:54 |
| schestowitz | *fine | May 08 23:54 |
| schestowitz | Price of food won't decline | May 08 23:55 |
| schestowitz | It went up sharply | May 08 23:55 |
| schestowitz | Leading to more hunger | May 08 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | well, if you bought a Blu Ray player in 2006, you got this big heavy tank with unreliable drives | May 08 23:55 |
| schestowitz | Energy going nuclear could lower energy expenses | May 08 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | and they cost $1,000 | May 08 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | people buying first generation stuff are idiots | May 08 23:55 |
| schestowitz | No | May 08 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | just wait a few years when it works and it's cheap | May 08 23:56 |
| schestowitz | They are not confident | May 08 23:56 |
| schestowitz | It's the people who want to brag to friends | May 08 23:56 |
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| schestowitz | Either with gadgets or a big HUMMER that makes their penis feel a little less small | May 08 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not paying $1,000 for something that's first generation hardware that also happens to be in a format war it could lose | May 08 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | it's just not a good idea | May 08 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | you have too much money if you go for that | May 08 23:57 |
| schestowitz | http://mozillalabs.com/blog/2010/04/account-manager-graduates-from-labs/ | May 08 23:57 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Mozilla Labs » Blog Archive » Account Manager Graduates From Labs .::. Size~: 17.66 KB | May 08 23:57 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: not necessarily | May 08 23:57 |
| schestowitz | I know adults who are easily conned | May 08 23:58 |
| schestowitz | Do you know the people who sell hoovers? | May 08 23:58 |
| schestowitz | Not Hoover, just hovers | May 08 23:58 |
| schestowitz | *hoovers | May 08 23:58 |
| schestowitz | VVaccum cleaners | May 08 23:58 |
| schestowitz | And telemarketers | May 08 23:58 |
| schestowitz | Or the ones on TV 'shopping' | May 08 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, door to door salesmen | May 08 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | foot in the door types | May 08 23:58 |
| schestowitz | They are effective hynosis to the most gullible | May 08 23:58 |
| schestowitz | "Buy our Blu-Ray and your pretty neighbour will go out with you.." | May 08 23:59 |
| DaemonFC | my mother buys all kinds of crap off QVC | May 08 23:59 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure she does | May 08 23:59 |
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