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| Chips_B_Malroy | lol | May 10 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/4/21/859434/-Moodys-Corp-Issued-Subpoena! | May 10 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | Goldman just puts AAA on something it calls "crappy" and "Shitty" | May 10 00:01 |
| schestowitz | http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/12/30/kucinich-to-investigate-fanniefreddie-bailout/ | May 10 00:01 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Greece is just the second in line (Iceland was first due to bank failure) of defaults. All of our western countries continue to borrow and go more into debt | May 10 00:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its not a question of default, but when | May 10 00:02 |
| schestowitz | UK ships sinking in ww1: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:HMS_Gloucester_Castle_-_31_March_1917.JPG | May 10 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | Portugal is said to be next | May 10 00:02 |
| schestowitz | trmanco just left it | May 10 00:02 |
| schestowitz | In the Uk there's military conquest as an option | May 10 00:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | USA, and Britain, are too big to fail | May 10 00:03 |
| schestowitz | I reckon the violence here will deteriorate | May 10 00:03 |
| schestowitz | Next Thursday we have Quid Night | May 10 00:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Soviet Union/Russia was too | May 10 00:03 |
| schestowitz | To donate for a friend | May 10 00:03 |
| schestowitz | Some thugs punched him down for no reason and he almost died | May 10 00:03 |
| schestowitz | Blood in the brain, ambulance took 25 minutes to arrive | May 10 00:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Russia came out of its default when the price of oil went back up | May 10 00:03 |
| schestowitz | Was not conscious for weeks | May 10 00:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | before that Russia printed lots of paper money | May 10 00:04 |
| schestowitz | So did Germany | May 10 00:04 |
| schestowitz | Inearly 20s | May 10 00:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Which is whats going happen with some of our countries | May 10 00:04 |
| schestowitz | Reparations... Versai treaty | May 10 00:04 |
| ender2070 | http://www.indianexpress.com/news/bric-must-create-a-new-world-order-lula/607274/0 | May 10 00:04 |
| schestowitz | Hyper-inflation to pay back | May 10 00:04 |
| ender2070 | speaking of russia | May 10 00:04 |
| Techrights | Title: BRIC must create a new world order: Lula .::. Size~: 61.13 KB | May 10 00:04 |
| schestowitz | Then a 600-member party (national "socialialists") got Hilter and rose to power | May 10 00:05 |
| schestowitz | That's a danger in the US too | May 10 00:05 |
| schestowitz | But it's called the Tea Baggers | May 10 00:05 |
| schestowitz | Fudned and run by Republicans | May 10 00:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes | May 10 00:05 |
| ender2070 | http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/economics/article7112329.ece | May 10 00:05 |
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| schestowitz | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bark_Stifinder.jpg | May 10 00:06 |
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| schestowitz | It's s shame I need to go through these photos | May 10 00:06 |
| schestowitz | It's the only public domain stuff I can find | May 10 00:06 |
| schestowitz | ANd I skip it where it's not deliberate, planned sinking | May 10 00:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | although, I think there is enough blame on both parties | May 10 00:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The loan with Greece, doubtful it will work. After all you are loaning them more money, to prop them up and they are going further into debt, which they cannot pay now. | May 10 00:07 |
| schestowitz | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ex-Schenectady_%28LST-1185%29_sinking.jpg | May 10 00:07 |
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| schestowitz | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sinking_after_being_torpedoed_01.jpg | May 10 00:08 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Anybody read the consiracy theories that Bush was going cause a monatary crisis and the way out of that was a North American Union? this a few years back | May 10 00:09 |
| schestowitz | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:USS_Niagara_%28AGP-1%29.jpg | May 10 00:10 |
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| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: so how would it go, like... | May 10 00:11 |
| schestowitz | He 'planned' 9/11, so that he can invade Iraq, borrow from China for the war, go bankrupt, then make north American Union? | May 10 00:11 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, that REALLY makes sense now. /sarcasm | May 10 00:11 |
| schestowitz | North American Union.... of course to offer it for sale to the alienzzz | May 10 00:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | well, I never put any faith into it myself. But Nafta, was Cananda, Mexico, and the US would form a union like hte EU, and combine currecies to get out of the debt problems | May 10 00:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | so our politicans could offload our debt on Canada | May 10 00:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but maybe Canada is not so well off anyway | May 10 00:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Roy> that conspiracy theory is popular over here with the conservatives, I did not say I believe it | May 10 00:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Bush did not plan 911 | May 10 00:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | In fact, that was the 2nd try at being down the twin towers | May 10 00:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | *bringing | May 10 00:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | remember the van bomb in the parking garage under the towers? except they did not park it near the supports | May 10 00:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | think that was during the Clinton years | May 10 00:17 |
| schestowitz | A lot of sealife and food chain like corals will be destoryed by the BP disaster | May 10 00:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes | May 10 00:17 |
| schestowitz | I was just thinking, cause I eat fish.... we're driving to extinction faster. Fewer fish to reproduce | May 10 00:18 |
| schestowitz | Alas. | May 10 00:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | that area is where most the the US shrimp fishing is done | May 10 00:18 |
| schestowitz | Fewer people will east fish... cause they come with petrol... those that survive without falling to the bottom of the ocean | May 10 00:18 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | May 10 00:19 |
| schestowitz | And Louisiana | May 10 00:19 |
| schestowitz | Will strike their already-bottom low economy | May 10 00:19 |
| schestowitz | And hurt the poor fishermen | May 10 00:19 |
| schestowitz | I suppose I should carry on with "Fianance" bit in Daily News? | May 10 00:19 |
| schestowitz | *I mean "Daily Links"... I'm not proficient enough in this area, but I want to at least share links for those who can understand and do something about it | May 10 00:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | it does try in with the banks, goldman, the debt, mortages | May 10 00:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | *tie | May 10 00:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | now that the USA has bailed out with taxpayers money,all these Banking institutions that have put people out on the streets, some of these institutions are now telling the gov to stop borrowing or they will raise its credit rating. sounds like greed | May 10 00:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Roy> the Ballmer quote today about Apple, that is older isn't it? As in he did not say that this week? Ballmer likes to defuse problems beforehand. So if he said it recently he is worried about the Ipad and Iphone killing sales for MS | May 10 00:30 |
| enthymeme | \names | May 10 00:41 |
| enthymeme | gah, TeXfInGeRs | May 10 00:41 |
| kevin0091 | can anyone tell me why my arch linux gnome fonts look like garbage? they're sort of "squished together" and hard to read. did i miss a package that should have been installed? | May 10 00:45 |
| kevin0091 | i'de like to have the ubuntu fonts because they look great | May 10 00:45 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: yes, it's old | May 10 00:45 |
| schestowitz | kevin0091: Ubuntu has no fonts | May 10 00:46 |
| schestowitz | It merely packages some | May 10 00:46 |
| schestowitz | Or gets them from Debian | May 10 00:46 |
| schestowitz | Check subpixel hinting | May 10 00:46 |
| schestowitz | KDE has great fonts in this release | May 10 00:46 |
| kevin0091 | in the terminal it is like the m and the @ are squished together for example | May 10 00:47 |
| kevin0091 | ok fixed it. the fixed width fonts were set to sans. i changed it to monospace | May 10 00:54 |
| zoobab | pong | May 10 00:56 |
| schestowitz | Hey | May 10 01:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft Vice President Quits, AOL and Glam Poisoned http://ur1.ca/zx5u other latest examples being HP, Juniper, ProtonMedia | May 10 01:02 | |
| Techrights | Title: Microsoft Vice President Quits, AOL and Glam Poisoned | Techrights .::. Size~: 85.49 KB | May 10 01:02 |
| zoobab | you have to point to the difference between Ubuntu OEM and the ISO you download from the net | May 10 01:15 |
| zoobab | crazzy stories coming | May 10 01:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Wrong #rPath to #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/zx9y assisting the company which openly attacks GNU/Linux, on which rPath’s business is based | May 10 01:24 | |
| Techrights | Title: The Wrong rPath to Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 79.2 KB | May 10 01:24 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: how so? | May 10 01:24 |
| schestowitz | What stories? | May 10 01:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.compassnewspaper.com/NG/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=47873:enough-of-harassment-capdan-tells-ncc-microsoft-&catid=37:info-tech&Itemid=709 | May 10 01:58 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "manufacturing giant, Microsoft and the body responsible for waging war against the theft of intellectual properties, the Nigerian Copyrights Commission (NCC), over their harassment of innocent Nigerians under the guise of prosecuting war against piracy in the country." | May 10 01:58 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | the bot is not working, so title is: Enough of harassment, CAPDAN tells NCC, Microsoft | May 10 01:59 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | DaemonFC > I have a question for you. Were you able to watch Netflix streaming movies with moonlight? | May 10 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | no | May 10 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | just Silverlight or a Netflix enabled device | May 10 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | my Blu Ray player plays them | May 10 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | they all seem to use the VC-1 codec | May 10 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | encapsulated in some kind of DRM | May 10 02:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Because according to this site: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/195541/microsoft_losing_browser_influence_along_with_market_share.html | May 10 02:02 |
| Techrights | Title: Microsoft Losing Browser Influence Along with Market Share - PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 56.34 KB | May 10 02:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Author's Note: This article has been updated to correct my assertion the Microsoft Silverlight is only compatible with Internet Explorer. According to the Silverlight FAQ "Silverlight is supported by all major browsers on both Mac OS X and Windows, and with Moonlight on Linux as well."]" | May 10 02:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Ah, but does it work with Netflix or Blockbuster steaming? | May 10 02:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I don,t think so | May 10 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | I believe it is the DRM that's the problem | May 10 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | Moonlight does have a VC-1 codec | May 10 02:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, its patented and not given to the mono/moonlight team | May 10 02:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | so netflix will never work | May 10 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft licensing it to an open source projet would undermine the DRM itself | May 10 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | so they never will | May 10 02:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | your point? | May 10 02:06 |
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| DaemonFC | the more people know how something works, the more chance the "blueprints" will leak | May 10 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | and cracks will follow | May 10 02:06 |
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| DaemonFC | the idea behind DRM is that not many people know how it works | May 10 02:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | whats the use of Moonlight then? commercials for linux users? Netflix/Blockbuster streaming movies is the only thing Linux users would use it for. | May 10 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | they would have to get the Moonlight team to sign NDAs and only distribute the DRM runtime in binary form | May 10 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | which the Mono and Moonlight license would allow for | May 10 02:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | So therefore, MS really never wanted it work as a premo service on linux anyway | May 10 02:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | otherwords, get windows | May 10 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | well, without the DRM support it's useless | May 10 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | yes | May 10 02:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | barf | May 10 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | unless MS licenses them the DRM runtime or the companies stop demanding the use of DRM, there you go | May 10 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | Moonlight is useless | May 10 02:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | it useless bloat | May 10 02:09 |
| schestowitz | Canonical employee plays Microsoft apologist against my argument: http://identi.ca/conversation/31533691#notice-31643962 | May 10 02:09 |
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| schestowitz | "will the every be a day where we don't cry foul with MS? Pointing blame at them constantly isn't a win for anyone but them" | May 10 02:10 |
| schestowitz | "MS beat everyone to the punch, we don't need a level playing field to succeed, we just need less whiney people and more doers| | May 10 02:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but then, MS spent a lot of bucks creating this monopoly on rental dvd companies in the usa, that would use streaming | May 10 02:10 |
| schestowitz | At least one person there comes to my defense | May 10 02:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "<DaemonFC> unless MS licenses them the DRM runtime or the companies stop demanding the use of DRM, there you go" Well that is not going happen, as we know | May 10 02:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | even Adobe has their method of DRM on streaming Flash, be there is rtmpdump | May 10 02:17 |
| ender2070 | cubezzz - u know anything about getting teeth removed for low cost or free? | May 10 02:19 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Mexico | May 10 02:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | 1/3 the cost | May 10 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | Chips_B_Malroy, VC-1 does make a decent video codec though | May 10 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | even for HD stuff | May 10 02:22 |
| kevin0091 | i couldn't believe that some games are sold with release-date checking malware. that is utterly insane | May 10 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | I couldn't tell the difference between the Netflix stream and a Blu Ray disc I have | May 10 02:22 |
| kevin0091 | hopefully more companies will sell through www.gog.com | May 10 02:23 |
| kevin0091 | too bad they don't sell linux versions of games | May 10 02:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz: Agreed, I for one moved to #gnu #linux because it was cheaper and had better software (SuS … http://identi.ca/notice/31646693 | May 10 02:24 | |
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| ender2070 | chips_b_malroy - and safe? | May 10 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | The satellite system is working out so much better than the cable | May 10 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | no wonder Comcast is changing names | May 10 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | Xfinity | May 10 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | What is that? How long you wait for help when the service goes out? :) | May 10 02:26 |
| schestowitz | Hehe. Not very good tact from Canonical there: http://identi.ca/conversation/31533691#notice-31646693 | May 10 02:28 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | ender2070>" chips_b_malroy - and safe? | May 10 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | blame the users | May 10 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | blame the testers | May 10 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | don't blame the people fucking up what works | May 10 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | inoring the thousand users that comlain about that | May 10 02:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | well the dentists mostly are ender, but the towns along the border, some are not | May 10 02:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft ’s #Xbox360 Suffers Another Blow, Delay, Downtime, and #Antitrust Lawsuit http://ur1.ca/zxj0 | May 10 02:31 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | most of the Mexican dentists have web sites | May 10 02:31 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | look for smaller towns, like Nogales, or near Yuma | May 10 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | are those the one that work on your teeth for half price then clean your house then go pick tomatoes? | May 10 02:32 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Microsoft's predatory behaviour is the reason people start to dislike them and the quality of their overpriced software is horrible... | May 10 02:32 | |
| DaemonFC | the ones we keep hearing about that pay all these taxes and never file returns | May 10 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 10 02:32 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] In comparison with most Free Software. (My 2 cents) ;-) | May 10 02:33 | |
| DaemonFC | these people act like having taxes taken out is mandatory when they feed you that line | May 10 02:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | DaemonFC> no these dentists are mexican dentists that live in Mexico in the border towns | May 10 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | you don't have to have taxes taken out, you can go years before the IRS figures it out and catches up with you | May 10 02:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | people having been using them for many years that cannot afford the dentists here | May 10 02:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | $200 for a Crown | May 10 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | most of them will give you a no insurance discount | May 10 02:35 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | what does it matter if you have no insurance? | May 10 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | 15% or so | May 10 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | you usually have to ask for it though | May 10 02:38 |
| ender2070 | theres no dental insurance here in canada | May 10 02:38 |
| ender2070 | and i need two molars removed on my lower jaw (beside both wisdom teeth) | May 10 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | so doesn't the state pay for it or something? | May 10 02:39 |
| ender2070 | not at all | May 10 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | but there's no insurance either? | May 10 02:40 |
| ender2070 | socialized medicine, not socialized dentistry | May 10 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | you people make a lot of sense | May 10 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 10 02:40 |
| ender2070 | theres emergency only dental coverage | May 10 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | right, like Medicare does | May 10 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | like over diseases and stuf that just happen to cause dental damage | May 10 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | right? | May 10 02:40 |
| ender2070 | none of the dentists here give anyone any information | May 10 02:40 |
| ender2070 | im not sure | May 10 02:41 |
| ender2070 | i think they'll do it if you have an oral disease | May 10 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, same as Medicare then | May 10 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | the only way to get dental coverage on Medicare is to go to the privatized plans, that cost more and make you fuck around with their networks | May 10 02:42 |
| ender2070 | or if its infected and can spread to other parts of your body | May 10 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | and the dental coverage is usually laughable even then | May 10 02:42 |
| ender2070 | i used to have sunlife coverage | May 10 02:42 |
| ender2070 | 90% dental up to $1000 | May 10 02:43 |
| ender2070 | each year | May 10 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | like, they'll put you at a $1,000 or $1,500 a year dental work cap, after a $300 deductible and 20% copay | May 10 02:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ender> there is a dentist here in Vegas that advertises $100 per extraction | May 10 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | so it's barely worth having :) | May 10 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | I was hoping to avoid having any extractions actually | May 10 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | $100 or otherwise | May 10 02:44 |
| ender2070 | chips_b_malroy - sounds like a gamble ;) | May 10 02:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | nice pun | May 10 02:45 |
| ender2070 | daemonfc - well the benefit for me is that i have my wisdom teeth | May 10 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | all the hicks around here wait until the tooth is rotten and get an extraction cause those are cheaper than crowns and fillings | May 10 02:45 |
| ender2070 | my body already assumed by second molars would be gone | May 10 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | they use the money they save on beer and cigarettes | May 10 02:45 |
| ender2070 | lol | May 10 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 10 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, I got my wisdom teeth out the last day I had dental insurance that would pay for it | May 10 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 10 02:45 |
| ender2070 | why get these fixed when i have cavity free wisdom teeth ready to shift over? :) | May 10 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | well, my wisdom teeth were going to cause problems with other teeth | May 10 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | so I got them pulled | May 10 02:47 |
| ender2070 | yeah | May 10 02:47 |
| ender2070 | those 'other teeth' are causing problems for me | May 10 02:47 |
| ender2070 | even if i wanted to get them fixed, they are broken | May 10 02:47 |
| ender2070 | one was filled in before | May 10 02:47 |
| ender2070 | and it didnt take | May 10 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | I have a few fillings | May 10 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | small ones | May 10 02:47 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ender, you in canada riight? | May 10 02:47 |
| ender2070 | flouride in the water doesnt help at all | May 10 02:47 |
| ender2070 | yeah canada | May 10 02:48 |
| ender2070 | perhaps I should try removing them myself and turn them into a real emergency | May 10 02:48 |
| ender2070 | LOLOLOL | May 10 02:48 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | if you need a lot of Dental work, and you have to pay out of pocket or credit card, Mexico is the best you going do | May 10 02:48 |
| ender2070 | just two molars need to be removed | May 10 02:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | most of them speak english | May 10 02:49 |
| ender2070 | people tell me to go to cuba | May 10 02:49 |
| ender2070 | its free there, apparently | May 10 02:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | How about Britain, is it free there? | May 10 02:49 |
| ender2070 | i was hoping cubezzz knew of a canadian place cheap | May 10 02:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | of course the trip wll cost you more than the dental work | May 10 02:50 |
| ender2070 | britain i doubt | May 10 02:50 |
| ender2070 | im never going there anyways | May 10 02:50 |
| ender2070 | ever | May 10 02:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The Dentists like the Doctors have all about the same set prices. $1000 and up for a crown here | May 10 02:51 |
| ender2070 | yeah its all frigging ridiculous | May 10 02:51 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | you have too many teeth pulled, you will need dentures to eat, that is expensive | May 10 02:51 |
| ender2070 | i wont need dentures | May 10 02:52 |
| ender2070 | the two teeth I need removed have replacements that will shift over | May 10 02:52 |
| ender2070 | thats what wisdom teeth are for | May 10 02:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | shift over? | May 10 02:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I doubt that | May 10 02:52 |
| ender2070 | yeah my dentist says they will move over, theres already force pushing on the teeth i need taken out | May 10 02:52 |
| ender2070 | the angle is correct too, i might just need braces to straighten them | May 10 02:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | even more expensive, braces | May 10 02:53 |
| ender2070 | if i need them | May 10 02:54 |
| ender2070 | i just want them out first and then go from there | May 10 02:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst to me it's the ethics, not the products | May 10 02:54 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Attempts to Push #Mono Into Awn http://ur1.ca/zxls "dock” application for #GNU #Linux faces attempts to put #Csharp applets in it | May 10 02:55 | |
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| ender2070 | activision bought bungie eh | May 10 02:59 |
| ender2070 | Call of Duty Modern Halo ? | May 10 02:59 |
| ender2070 | lol | May 10 03:00 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | thought MS owned bungie? | May 10 03:00 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | or was that buggie? | May 10 03:00 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz: After using !gnu !linux for a couple of months I became aware of the philosophy behind Free Software. | May 10 03:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz: Ethics are also the reason I stick to and advocate Free Software now. I thought that was pretty clear.... | May 10 03:05 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/microsoft-silently-patches-vulnerabilities-leaves-admins-in-the-dark/8239 | May 10 03:08 |
| Techrights | Title: Microsoft "silently" patches vulnerabilities, leaves admins in the dark | ZDNet .::. Size~: 112.64 KB | May 10 03:08 |
| ender2070 | ms didnt own bungie, they were just partners | May 10 03:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ah, so as partners, did the sale of bungie lay any one off? | May 10 03:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | partners has some many meanings with MS | May 10 03:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | *so | May 10 03:15 |
| ender2070 | i doubt it | May 10 03:17 |
| ender2070 | bungie were as much victims as anyone else when dealing with ms | May 10 03:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://investor.activision.com/releasedetail.cfm?releaseid=464918 "The groundbreaking alliance will provide Bungie its first such partnership since splitting off from Microsoft in 2007, significantly broadening its global reach by providing the resources and support to develop, distribute and release games worldwide on multiple platforms and devices" ah, I did not realize that MS split them off in 2997 | May 10 03:27 |
| Techrights | Title: Bungie and Activision Announce Exclusive, Worldwide Partnership .::. Size~: 11.91 KB | May 10 03:27 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | *2007 | May 10 03:27 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The question is will this infect Activision with MS former staff from Bungie | May 10 03:28 |
| ender2070 | dude | May 10 03:29 |
| ender2070 | MS is the loser in this one | May 10 03:29 |
| ender2070 | you think activision will keep Halo exclusive to xbox? I dun think so | May 10 03:29 |
| kevin0091 | wonders if they will ever make another game as good as deus ex | May 10 03:29 |
| ender2070 | perpare to see halo 4 for everything | May 10 03:30 |
| ender2070 | prepare | May 10 03:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | well, while I am not much of a gamer anymore, I hope you are right | May 10 03:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst yes, I know | May 10 03:32 | |
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| schestowitz | [03:28] <Chips_B_Malroy> The question is will this infect Activision with MS former staff from Bungie | May 10 03:32 |
| schestowitz | Activision does proprietary programs for Microsoft anyway | May 10 03:33 |
| schestowitz | Even if for Sony, who cares? | May 10 03:33 |
| schestowitz | Peter moved from Xbox to EA, IIRC | May 10 03:33 |
| schestowitz | So did many xbox execs who jumped ship | May 10 03:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | games companies are MS last stronghold | May 10 03:35 |
| schestowitz | For Windows | May 10 03:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Windows and xbox | May 10 03:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Bill Veghte moves to HP from MS http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64454S20100505 | May 10 03:49 |
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| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: I know | May 10 03:51 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Bill Gates Sr., CEO of the Gates Foundation Jeff Raikes, and Melinda French Gates travel to US colleges http://ur1.ca/zxs8 #lobbying | May 10 03:51 | |
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| schestowitz | gn | May 10 03:51 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz, hey! | May 10 05:48 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, Any news from Jordan? :) | May 10 05:48 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: How much money do you expect the EU will dump on Greece to end this embarassment? | May 10 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 10 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/05/la-gun-buyback-nets-2000-weapons-and-a-grenade.html | May 10 06:02 |
| Techrights | Title: L.A. gun buyback nets 2,000 weapons -- including a grenade | L.A. NOW | Los Angeles Times .::. Size~: 92.74 KB | May 10 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | nice | May 10 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | they drive the economy into the shitter | May 10 06:04 |
| DaemonFC | then they offer a pittance to people needing groceries to turn in their guns | May 10 06:04 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 10 06:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] ظفرت يا عود الأراك بثغرها ما خفتي مني يا أراك أراك | May 10 06:08 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[malept/@malept] If I wasn't such a fan of Vala, I'd totally write all of my !Awn applets in C#, just to annoy @boycottnovell. | May 10 06:22 | |
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| MinceR | cubezzz: intel did make at least one video card: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I740 | May 10 06:44 |
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| MinceR | or at least someone did with an intel chip | May 10 06:44 |
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| MinceR | r4wr | May 10 06:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] My goodness, is the media presentation of #Quebec separatism finally growing up? http://bit.ly/atpOvh #cdnpoli #canada #pq | May 10 07:57 | |
| Techrights | Title: Poll shows continuing divide between views in Quebec, rest of Canada - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 88.47 KB | May 10 07:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Nearly at work......I really am looking forward to change.... | May 10 08:05 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@spymaami Also has anyone noticed how there are never any hot doctors outside #tv? // i had a hot therapist once. distracting,had to change | May 10 08:05 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Some big announcements from #ubuntu coming up today. Am at the developer summit, video camera in hand. | May 10 08:08 | |
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| *Now talking on #boycottnovell | May 10 08:59 | |
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| -ChanServ-[#boycottnovell] Welcome to the #boycottnovell channel | May 10 08:59 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Mark Shuttleworth taking the stage for the #ubuntu keynote at #uds | May 10 09:07 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] /3 | May 10 09:09 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] I suspect that Chinese hacker/cracker must have developed cyber attack via hardware. Is low cost Chinese devices found on Indian are secure? | May 10 09:11 | |
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| tessier__ | http://www.v3.co.uk/v3/news/2262681/botnets-exploit-linux-owners | May 10 09:29 |
| tessier__ | Someone is smoking crack. | May 10 09:29 |
| tessier__ | crap | May 10 09:31 |
| schestowitz | Windows is not used much for E-mail | May 10 09:31 |
| tessier__ | There is something fishy about that website | May 10 09:31 |
| schestowitz | Which one? | May 10 09:31 |
| schestowitz | V3? | May 10 09:31 |
| tessier__ | Not intentionally, no. But that's what the botnets are doing with Windows: sending mail | May 10 09:31 |
| tessier__ | Yeah | May 10 09:31 |
| schestowitz | VNUNEt? | May 10 09:31 |
| tessier__ | Have you heard of v3 before? | May 10 09:31 |
| tessier__ | I never have. | May 10 09:31 |
| schestowitz | Yes | May 10 09:31 |
| schestowitz | Linux relays spam | May 10 09:32 |
| schestowitz | It runs mail servers | May 10 09:32 |
| schestowitz | It does what it's supposed to do | May 10 09:32 |
| schestowitz | Which is to relay requests | May 10 09:32 |
| tessier__ | I cannot post a comment on that site. The captcha does not work. No matter what you put in there it does not accept it. | May 10 09:32 |
| tessier__ | Linux by default is not an open relay. | May 10 09:32 |
| schestowitz | I wonder what sends those requests though | May 10 09:32 |
| tessier__ | No distro ships their mail servers that way. | May 10 09:32 |
| schestowitz | It's spammers | May 10 09:32 |
| tessier__ | it will deliver the spam to you that someone injected via a Windows box though. | May 10 09:33 |
| schestowitz | They use open relays | May 10 09:33 |
| schestowitz | Running Linux because it's better | May 10 09:33 |
| tessier__ | Open relays are hard to find these days. | May 10 09:33 |
| schestowitz | They get blacklisted | May 10 09:33 |
| tessier__ | And spammers don't run open relays either. They don't want other spammers stealing their resources. | May 10 09:33 |
| schestowitz | What was that list that gather IPs of spam relays? | May 10 09:33 |
| schestowitz | many services used to look it up and in 2008 it had sustainability issues | May 10 09:33 |
| tessier__ | Whenever I have investigated IP addresses that were sending me spam it was Windows boxes. | May 10 09:33 |
| tessier__ | There are lots of DNSBLs | May 10 09:34 |
| tessier__ | And they operate quite successfully | May 10 09:34 |
| tessier__ | SORBS is one of the big ones these days | May 10 09:34 |
| schestowitz | I can't recall the one I think about. Articles about it were widespread 2 years ago. | May 10 09:34 |
| *schestowitz creates http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Facebook | May 10 09:35 | |
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| tessier__ | There have been quite a few | May 10 09:35 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Mark proposes that 10.10 is released on Sunday 10th October 2010. Where 101010 = 42 = Meaning of Life / Universe / Everything! | May 10 09:37 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] need a student volunteer for modifying C++ book #schoolos | May 10 09:40 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] There will be no public ISO of #Ubuntu Light with Unity, but will be tailored specifically for OEMs. | May 10 09:49 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] From @cracked - 5 Insane File Sharing Panics from Before the Internet - http://tinyurl.com/2ubthnw | May 10 09:53 | |
| Techrights | Title: 5 Insane File Sharing Panics from Before the Internet | Cracked.com .::. Size~: 81.74 KB | May 10 09:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Liberal Democrat negotiations with Labour look likely if Brown goes quickly. | May 10 09:55 | |
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| narendra | where I can upload secrect document anonymousy ? | May 10 10:08 |
| narendra | wikileaks is not working i think !! | May 10 10:08 |
| tessier__ | http://موقع.وزارة-الاتصالات.مصر/Default.aspx | May 10 10:16 |
| tessier__ | Awesome. | May 10 10:16 |
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| MinceR | i'm not so enthusiastic about it. | May 10 10:17 |
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| tessier__ | Why not? | May 10 10:17 |
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| MinceR | because it allows even more domains that are difficult to type, read and compare | May 10 10:18 |
| MinceR | IDN already lets you create identical-looking but distinct domains that can confuse users trying to check whether a certificate really applies to a supposedly secure connection. | May 10 10:18 |
| MinceR | domain names used to be easy to handle (as such names should be) | May 10 10:19 |
| MinceR | 7bit US-ASCII should have been enough. | May 10 10:19 |
| tessier__ | SSL CA was broken from the beginning anyway. This doesn't make things any worse. | May 10 10:21 |
| tessier__ | Everyone just clicks ok regardless. | May 10 10:21 |
| tessier__ | Although I am curious to know how you would work that sort of thing into a bind zone file. | May 10 10:21 |
| MinceR | no, not everyone. | May 10 10:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Facebook Gives Data to Microsoft, Encourages #Microsoft Lock-in, Expands to Seattle (Speculations/Rumours of Buyout) http://ur1.ca/zzku | May 10 10:37 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] leaked Indian IPR documents http://bit.ly/bq3TAs http://bit.ly/aQtDvI | May 10 10:50 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] ACTA? TRIPS? RT @nsisodiya: leaked Indian IPR documents http://bit.ly/bq3TAs http://bit.ly/aQtDvI | May 10 11:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Indian ‘Trade’ Agreements Leaked http://ur1.ca/zzxa How #India is getting further repressed by #intellectualmonopolies | May 10 11:15 | |
| schestowitz | "IP is back on the negotiating table between India and developed countries in trade negotiations. If India accepts EC and Japan demands on IP it affects agriculture, access to knowledge, domestic production of medicines and other key areas." | May 10 11:15 |
| schestowitz | "A word of caution, IP is also reflected in the investment chapter of the EU India text and Japan India text as well but that is not available in the public domain. Therefore we need to keep in mind that there needs to be a disclosure of the investment chapter for a complete analysis of the impact of proposed IP provisions in FTA negotiations." | May 10 11:15 |
| cubezzz | it's still an open question which modern computer is the most open and programmable | May 10 11:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Adobe staffer's euphemism for 'steaming manure pile': 'reflects a lot of organic growth'. #psd http://bit.ly/Sie6J http://bit.ly/1ap63q | May 10 11:20 | |
| cubezzz | old computer, yes, amiga 1200, no doubt about tat | May 10 11:20 |
| cubezzz | that | May 10 11:20 |
| cubezzz | when I say open I mean open with full functionality | May 10 11:21 |
| cubezzz | which is hard to find | May 10 11:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] That typically arrogant #adobe blog is just a smokescreen for fact that #psd format *is* a mess & doc incomplete+buggy (if you can get any) | May 10 11:23 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] If the doc were any good, people wouldn't be so brutally faced with #psd's deficiencies as when they have to reverse engineer it. #adobe | May 10 11:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] & the *whole issue* magically goes away if they would simply license their in-house #psd library. u'd think that wd encourage apps to use it | May 10 11:26 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Fact: Only a tiny part of #psd / #psb functionality is documented [to 3rd parties]. #adobe #photoshop | May 10 11:27 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Fact: Even with the 'doc' in hand, to do anything useful with #psd you have to reverse engineer how it really works. #adobe | May 10 11:29 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Secretive Free Trade Agreements -- Implications for the Country http://bit.ly/aBNKYb #prabir | May 10 11:32 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Discussing the #Ubuntu papercuts project.100 done last cycle.Maybe target more this time? Maybe 1 a day? | May 10 11:51 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] A note on e-learning content format http://old.nabble.com/E-learning-content-format-td28509883.html #format #xml | May 10 11:55 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Talking to design team about how we can get loco teams involved in quality usability testing for #ubuntu. Session later about it. | May 10 12:03 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Video of Mark Shuttleworth's keynote at #ubuntu developer summit. http://blip.tv/file/3601671 and Q&A http://blip.tv/file/3601706 | May 10 12:18 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Salesforce CEO Compares #Microsoft at Present to #IBM in the 80s and 90s http://ur1.ca/000ei #saas #apple #vmware #interview | May 10 12:23 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'random search shows #Wikipedia to be a sort of Boomer Bible or toxic waste dump of the worst sort of popular culture' http://bit.ly/dBZgfC | May 10 12:35 | |
| cubezzz | heh, "use hyperz to boost permforance" | May 10 13:19 |
| cubezzz | and it really does boost the permforance | May 10 13:19 |
| MinceR | lol | May 10 13:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Watching @ivanka talk about the design team work at Canonical on !ubuntu. Recording it. | May 10 13:21 | |
| cubezzz | it's ati mobility radeon 7500 | May 10 13:22 |
| cubezzz | there's even PCI Radeon 9200/9250 support in AmigaOS 4 | May 10 13:23 |
| MinceR | do they even make those cards today? | May 10 13:23 |
| cubezzz | I don't know :) | May 10 13:24 |
| cubezzz | but I think my tougbook is totally open source, I just didn't realize it | May 10 13:24 |
| cubezzz | I'm sure you could find those cards on ebay | May 10 13:25 |
| cubezzz | everything except the bios | May 10 13:25 |
| cubezzz | which isn't too bad | May 10 13:25 |
| cubezzz | might even be possible to remove the mobility card and upgrade it | May 10 13:26 |
| cubezzz | "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] [1002:4c57]" | May 10 13:27 |
| cubezzz | so I can't really say that ATI is bad | May 10 13:28 |
| schestowitz | > re: Re: IT failure downs Stansted systems | May 10 13:28 |
| schestowitz | > A weekend update, that borked the system ... ?? | May 10 13:28 |
| schestowitz | > | May 10 13:28 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/10/stansted_closed/ | May 10 13:28 |
| schestowitz | May 10 13:28 | |
| schestowitz | Could you find evidence that it's Windows based? | May 10 13:28 |
| cubezzz | anyhow if you have a mobility 7500 you know you can use the open source driver | May 10 13:28 |
| cubezzz | of course ender2070 will yell "it's X years old!" but whatever | May 10 13:29 |
| cubezzz | so it's old, so what? | May 10 13:29 |
| cubezzz | it's still useful | May 10 13:29 |
| cubezzz | I'm not even sure how old the video card is in this box I'm using now | May 10 13:31 |
| cubezzz | you only need a 400 mhz computer to use usb 2.0 you know | May 10 13:34 |
| cubezzz | I just learned about driconf today | May 10 13:36 |
| MinceR | my phone has a 434 MHz CPU :> | May 10 13:36 |
| cubezzz | 486's are clunkers though, I draw the line there | May 10 13:46 |
| cubezzz | while amiga 1200 is interesting, 486's are not | May 10 13:46 |
| cubezzz | no blitter | May 10 13:47 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] UDS is off to a rocking start, and people are playing with Unity. See http://is.gd/c2yrO for more on Mark's keynote. :-) #ubuntu | May 10 13:54 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Had a great session today about identifying developer personas so we can refine our dev process. Next session is on Tuesday. | May 10 13:56 | |
| schestowitz | Unity=Mono | May 10 14:09 |
| schestowitz | Unless it's a different one | May 10 14:10 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why #Apple , #Microsoft , and #Nokia are an active threat to #GNU #Linux and to a software patents-free world http://ur1.ca/00193 #swpats | May 10 14:12 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jwildeboer: OOo should simply state the *exact* license and not an umbrella "opensource" without specification or definition. | May 10 14:23 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Insanely busy session about ARM architecture at #ubuntu developer summit #uds | May 10 14:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jwildeboer: @charlesschulz @floeff stating "opensource" as a license for OOo extensions is not enough. Please fix this ASAP. | May 10 14:33 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] is it true? US defense services have banned Lenovo laptops because they have a Chinese BIOS | May 10 14:35 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] “[Intellectual monopolies are] a neo-colonialist plot to ensure the continuing dominance of Western nations.” ~ @glynmoody | May 10 14:38 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] “[Intellectual monopolies are] a neo-colonialist plot to ensure the continuing dominance of Western nations.” ~ Glyn Moody | May 10 14:39 | |
| schestowitz | zoobab: you misattributed to Gurry | May 10 14:53 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: watch what you tweeted | May 10 14:53 |
| schestowitz | Two quotes you attribute to Gurry are from Patent Watchtroll (Quinn) | May 10 14:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] “It could be argued that Microsoft’s unethical Technology Evangelism (TE) practices are “old (cont) http://tl.gd/17tsth | May 10 14:58 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] “Patent Law for Computer Scientists” Should be Named “Computer Science for Patent Lawyers” http://ur1.ca/001pm #swpats | May 10 15:06 | |
| zoobab | yes | May 10 15:07 |
| zoobab | I made a mistake | May 10 15:07 |
| zoobab | will correct | May 10 15:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Running two copies of ffmpeg2theora is a good way to get your macbook pro to get warm on your lap. | May 10 15:11 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] http://blip.tv/file/3602315 - Rick Spencer - Application Developers and Maverick | May 10 15:16 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] http://blip.tv/file/3602268 - Thiago Macieira - QT Roadmap / Overview | May 10 15:18 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] http://blip.tv/file/3602218 - Ivanka Majic - The Design Team | May 10 15:19 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why In Re #Bilski Could Wipe Microsoft off the Map http://ur1.ca/0020e Without software patents, #Microsoft would be left toothless #swpats | May 10 15:38 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] ISP liability, Criminalisation, and more in the EU-India Trade Agreement: http://ur1.ca/0022o | May 10 15:45 | |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: http://avaxhome.ws/ebooks/eLearning_book/information_technologies/3642050778.html | May 10 15:58 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Symantec Lies About #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/0028i In order to sell some products, Symantec spreads GNU/Linux fear | May 10 16:15 | |
| cubezzz | got another $100 card from google | May 10 16:18 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Uploading Ogg Vorbis/Theora version of Videos made at #uds http://popey.blip.tv/ | May 10 16:19 | |
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| Omar87 | Hi all. | May 10 16:24 |
| zoobab | http://bambuser.com/channel/thegreensefa/broadcast/743833 | May 10 16:24 |
| zoobab | live copyright bully with PP | May 10 16:24 |
| schestowitz | tessier_: see the post about Symantec | May 10 16:28 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: who's this guy? | May 10 16:29 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Stevens in 1983: "The Patent Office's inability to deal with the administrative burden of examining program applications" http://ur1.ca/v7s0 | May 10 16:30 | |
| zoobab | no idea who is this guy | May 10 16:30 |
| zoobab | they mentionned patent trolls | May 10 16:32 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Bye Bye Airtel GPRS. Enter Airtel Broadband* :-) | May 10 16:52 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] How the patent guys hacked the law: "the programmed computer was a new machine": http://ur1.ca/v7s0 | May 10 16:54 | |
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| Techrights | Hello World! | May 10 16:56 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] ♺ @mrsangeld: What games do you #ubuntu #kubuntu users play? | May 10 16:58 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to have to agree with the Republicans with this | May 10 16:58 |
| DaemonFC | "What's stopping the feds from enforcing the immigration laws we already have?" | May 10 16:58 |
| zoobab | I am looking for a copy of Wikileaks | May 10 17:01 |
| zoobab | http://wikileaks.org/wiki/DTS_threatens_ECP_university_over_videolan | May 10 17:01 |
| Techrights | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found .::. Size~: 0 KB | May 10 17:01 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: copy of it? | May 10 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/05/06/terrorism.act.change/ | May 10 17:04 |
| Techrights | Title: Bill aims to strip certain Americans of their citizenship - CNN.com .::. Size~: 51.86 KB | May 10 17:04 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: that site is down for me | May 10 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Ex Post Facto law anyone? | May 10 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | the US Constitution says your citizenship can only ever be stripped for two reasons | May 10 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | voluntarily or conviction for treason | May 10 17:05 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: I get 403 (error) | May 10 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | the Secratary of State can't just say "Well, you're no longer a citizen cause I said so" | May 10 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | they're trying to unconstitutionally empower the Secretary of State to be able to do that | May 10 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | ick | May 10 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | there's some "Change" you can believe in I guess | May 10 17:06 |
| zoobab | looking for a copy | May 10 17:07 |
| zoobab | not on archive.org | May 10 17:07 |
| zoobab | wikileaks guys are a pain | May 10 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | and where will they send the people they strip of citizenship? | May 10 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | They'll be effectively stateless | May 10 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | what if they strip a person of citizenship and then the trial clears them of wrongdoing? | May 10 17:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @sloshy: The #1 way to make people want to have copyright changed: say that in the USA, it is illegal to sing Happy Birthday publicly. | May 10 17:09 | |
| DaemonFC | of course Lieberman is all for it | May 10 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | I could only ever see them possibly stripping someone of citizenship, constitutionally, in such a manner, if they were not born here | May 10 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | and ven that's questionable | May 10 17:11 |
| zoobab | Looking for wikileaks backups | May 10 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | seing as how the Constitution specified that anyone born in US jurisdiction is a "natural born" citizen, both in the 14th Amendment and in Article I (for being elected president) | May 10 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | other than that it states that citizenship may be conferred by act of congress or supporting laws | May 10 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | if anyone was ever to have their citizenship taken away by statute without conviction of treason, it would be naturalized foreign born citizens | May 10 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | that would be my ruling anyway, were I a federal judge | May 10 17:14 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: "@schestowitz not so sure, MS has never been a big fan of software patents and it's not what keeps them in power..." http://identi.ca/conversation/31597234#notice-31714195 | May 10 17:14 |
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| schestowitz | THis guy is from KDE | May 10 17:14 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: BS | May 10 17:15 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM8bfgEwblM&feature=digest | May 10 17:15 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Obama should appoint me to the Supreme Court, I meet some of his requirements | May 10 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | real life experience | May 10 17:15 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY7YlvObNko&feature=digest | May 10 17:15 |
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| schestowitz | You sounds like them | May 10 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | outside the judicial monastary | May 10 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | of course I'm a white male | May 10 17:16 |
| zoobab | Stevens is still around | May 10 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | so I'd be discriminated against | May 10 17:16 |
| schestowitz | I know | May 10 17:16 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: not in SCOTUS | May 10 17:16 |
| zoobab | Patent guys are very afraid he might write the main Bilski opinion | May 10 17:16 |
| zoobab | he is leaving end of June | May 10 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | with Obama, you can only get in if you're black, mexican, or a woman | May 10 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | they need a half-black, half-hispanic, lesbian, Satanist woman with a Harvard law degree and no judicial eperience | May 10 17:17 |
| zoobab | "Stevens served on an appeals court for five years before his nomination to the Supreme Court in 1975. He is retiring this summer." | May 10 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | fill more quotas with less people | May 10 17:17 |
| zoobab | I hope he will write the main opinion, and leave some big poison pills for the patent guys | May 10 17:17 |
| zoobab | hackers of patent law | May 10 17:17 |
| zoobab | once Bilski will be issued, you will see plenty of workshops for patent attorneys trying to hack the decision to get swpats through | May 10 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The Supreme Court already ruled against the liberals in the firefighters case | May 10 17:18 |
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| DaemonFC | finding the white men were discriminated against to favor minorities | May 10 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | since the white men did better on the evaluations than the minorities | May 10 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | so they threw the whole system out rather than promote the white men | May 10 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | they were afraid to promote white men, based on a merit system, because the minorities would sue and cost the city lots of money | May 10 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | so they fucked them out of the promised promotions and raises | May 10 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | in the end, the city got what was coming to them when the white men sued | May 10 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: So do you beleive the job should go to the most ualified or are you in favor of quota packing? | May 10 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | *qualified | May 10 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | the problem I see is that with any competancy test, if the minorities do poorly on it, they'll say that "Whitey rigged the test" :) | May 10 17:24 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] The MOT test to exclude swpats except where the soft is a key element of some particular machine, not a generic computer http://ur1.ca/002r7 | May 10 17:29 | |
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| kevin0091 | *is "dd"ing an arch installation to another of his machines* | May 10 17:35 |
| kevin0091 | lol space invaders in the boot loader... | May 10 17:45 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] woohoo, failwhale! #blamegordonbrown | May 10 18:08 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/10/business/global/10drachma.html?partner=rss&emc=rss | May 10 18:10 |
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| schestowitz | "E.U. Details $957 Billion Rescue Package" | May 10 18:10 |
| schestowitz | How to combat debt: | May 10 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Issue more debt! | May 10 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: EUTARP? | May 10 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 10 18:10 |
| ender2070 | tax your citizens into slavery | May 10 18:10 |
| schestowitz | No | May 10 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Citizens's kids | May 10 18:10 |
| ender2070 | and grandkids | May 10 18:11 |
| schestowitz | And unborn grandkids | May 10 18:11 |
| schestowitz | Beat me to it | May 10 18:11 |
| ender2070 | lol | May 10 18:11 |
| schestowitz | ACTA will save the day | May 10 18:11 |
| ender2070 | lol | May 10 18:11 |
| schestowitz | it'll turn the developing world to slaves | May 10 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | the UK should love ACTA | May 10 18:12 |
| schestowitz | And they will thank us very much for issuing debt to them | May 10 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | it's already packed full of patent trolls | May 10 18:12 |
| schestowitz | No | May 10 18:12 |
| schestowitz | THe US is | May 10 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | not as many as in the US, but patent troll density | May 10 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Europe has very few patent troll | May 10 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | the UK probably wins there | May 10 18:12 |
| schestowitz | *trolls | May 10 18:12 |
| ender2070 | and at the end of the day, the major banking families are just a little bit richer | May 10 18:12 |
| schestowitz | There's one in Belgium that zoobab reported | May 10 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | right, they've found it easier to troll abroad than in Europe | May 10 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | and this fixes that problem for them | May 10 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 10 18:13 |
| schestowitz | > "at the end of the day.." | May 10 18:13 |
| schestowitz | :"Going forward..." | May 10 18:13 |
| schestowitz | "Without further ado" | May 10 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: On a going forward basis | May 10 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | is what you mean :D | May 10 18:13 |
| schestowitz | No, it's those marketers' phrases | May 10 18:13 |
| ender2070 | I would LOVE to own the one company in the world where every country owes money to it | May 10 18:13 |
| WireWulf | me 2 | May 10 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | the United Nations? | May 10 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft had debt too.. and DELL has debt HELL | May 10 18:14 |
| ender2070 | world bank | May 10 18:14 |
| ender2070 | lol | May 10 18:14 |
| schestowitz | NYT | May 10 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | well, it's up there | May 10 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Who loans the money to NYT? | May 10 18:14 |
| schestowitz | That would explain the bias | May 10 18:14 |
| schestowitz | IIRC< Slim pays them | May 10 18:14 |
| ender2070 | NYT? | May 10 18:14 |
| schestowitz | So expect pro-Mexico slant | May 10 18:14 |
| schestowitz | New York Times | May 10 18:14 |
| ender2070 | ahhhh | May 10 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Very debt saddled | May 10 18:14 |
| ender2070 | for media we either have oil controlled news, or banker controlled news | May 10 18:15 |
| *WireWulf loens cash to a diffent company who loans cash back to this cxompany 37 times (calls it reform) | May 10 18:15 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ellen-brown/stock-market-collapse-mor_b_568164.html | May 10 18:15 |
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| schestowitz | http://blog.seattlepi.com/morningeconomist/archives/205238.asp?from=blog_last3 | May 10 18:15 |
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| schestowitz | The US banks are robbing us | May 10 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | marvelous | May 10 18:15 |
| schestowitz | It's not | May 10 18:16 |
| schestowitz | But you're a xenophobe, so you mean it | May 10 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | sure it is | May 10 18:16 |
| WireWulf | the US goverment is robbing US banks and people | May 10 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | they didn't go after us for once | May 10 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | maybe we can slip away while they suck you dry | May 10 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | you know, hide and....stuff | May 10 18:16 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/09/business/global/09ripple.html?partner=rss&emc=rss | May 10 18:16 |
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| schestowitz | http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_GERMANY_ELECTION?SITE=NVLAS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT | May 10 18:16 |
| ender2070 | WireWulf - the US gives that money to the world bank, and china and many other countries it owes | May 10 18:16 |
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| DaemonFC | *points* Hey look over there, the EU!!! | May 10 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | then we all cross over into Canada while the bank isn't looking | May 10 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | brilliant plan | May 10 18:17 |
| ender2070 | after they pay the federal reserve interest on the money they have printed | May 10 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | marvelous plan | May 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | Is the WB like the Vatican? | May 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | It is like its own little cult-country inside the US? | May 10 18:17 |
| WireWulf | ender2070: the US goverment reall just askes other countries for more money to pay off what they owe a different country | May 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | And then, the question becomes, who has share in it? | May 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | WireWulf: they 'pull a Madoff' | May 10 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | I admit I don't know the entire story | May 10 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | but to get a loan you typically sign off on it | May 10 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | right? | May 10 18:18 |
| ender2070 | WireWulf - the US owes money to the same people Greece does, they'll see the same sanctions from the IMF/World Bank if they cant pay | May 10 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | so what's the excuse for Greece? | May 10 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | not enough lawyers looking it over first? | May 10 18:19 |
| WireWulf | Greecxe could get anymore money | May 10 18:19 |
| WireWulf | *couldnt | May 10 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | that's their problem | May 10 18:19 |
| ender2070 | the US army even predicts homegrown terrorism and riots | May 10 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | they wanted to live on credit cards | May 10 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | now the bill is due | May 10 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | why would anyone feel sorry for them? | May 10 18:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyl8c91qPbw | May 10 18:19 |
| Techrights | Title: YouTube- Bernanke will you tell American people to whom Fed Res lent $2.2 trillion of their dollars? .::. Size~: 89.75 KB | May 10 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | did they even TRY to slash their operating budget first? | May 10 18:19 |
| WireWulf | socialism leads to bankrupt countries (basic understanding of big goverment) | May 10 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | or did they take out high interest loans to cover wasteful spending? | May 10 18:20 |
| ender2070 | WireWulf - i agree with you | May 10 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | I believe Greece probably brought it on themselves | May 10 18:20 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUJIG3JNPk0 | May 10 18:20 |
| Techrights | Title: YouTube- Ben Bernanke RefusesTransparency - TAKE ACTION NOW! .::. Size~: 92.63 KB | May 10 18:20 |
| ender2070 | WireWulf - what does the consitution do you if the US has to sell all its land to pay debts, or some other crazy shit | May 10 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | it would be like me buying plasma televisions on check advance money | May 10 18:20 |
| ender2070 | constitution* | May 10 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | then complaining next week that I was taken advantage of | May 10 18:21 |
| WireWulf | the US can not sell what it doesn't own | May 10 18:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Sorry, the article about AllisBlue was dated of 6 of March. Trying to find what happened... | May 10 18:21 | |
| WireWulf | and i own my land | May 10 18:21 |
| WireWulf | not the goverment | May 10 18:21 |
| ender2070 | you'll find out soon who really owns it when you stop paying taxes | May 10 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | WireWulf, Eminent Domain | May 10 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, Property taxes are a state government thing | May 10 18:21 |
| WireWulf | DaemonFC: shotgun and about 50,000 pissed off conservitives | May 10 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think all states have a property tax | May 10 18:21 |
| ender2070 | everyone has property taxes | May 10 18:22 |
| WireWulf | eeer shotguns | May 10 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, Some states don't have sales or income taxes | May 10 18:22 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, hey | May 10 18:22 |
| ender2070 | theres no place on this planet where you can live your life and not pay taxes | May 10 18:22 |
| WireWulf | i pay my taxes anyway tho | May 10 18:22 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, Any news from Jordan? :) | May 10 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | the thing is they take what they want and only how they get it changes | May 10 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | the states with no income tax usually have a very high sales tax, for example | May 10 18:23 |
| ender2070 | even so, they simply sell the entire state around all the land people own | May 10 18:23 |
| WireWulf | they ant what they want = tottal communism (the world order) | May 10 18:23 |
| ender2070 | or like i said, something else | May 10 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | the government owns your car too | May 10 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | they can seize it if you let the registration expire | May 10 18:23 |
| schestowitz | http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_EUROPE_FINANCIAL_CRISIS_FED?SITE=CAANG&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT | May 10 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | from your property even | May 10 18:24 |
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| ender2070 | the goal is to get the us enconomy to crash to bring in more socialism | May 10 18:24 |
| *WireWulf looks at the goverment guys "fuck you i own my stuff i mean damned it is fucking mine" | May 10 18:24 | |
| ender2070 | austerity, social reform and abortions will be made mandatory for low income families | May 10 18:24 |
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| schestowitz | Omar87: I haven't gotten around to it today | May 10 18:25 |
| WireWulf | higher taxs for normal to high income families | May 10 18:25 |
| schestowitz | I have a backlog of 10+ posts | May 10 18:25 |
| ender2070 | yeah | May 10 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | what happens is 1. You let the registration expire. 2. The neighbor with 27 cats who weighs 400 pounds, smokes all day, and listens to the police scanner for entertainment calls to complain about it. | May 10 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | 3. The city seizes it. | May 10 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | 4. Profit (via auction) | May 10 18:25 |
| ender2070 | the taxes will increase till the middle class fits the mandatory abortion tier | May 10 18:25 |
| ender2070 | leaving the rich | May 10 18:25 |
| ender2070 | in china, you can bypass one child per family, you pay more and more and more with each additional child | May 10 18:26 |
| WireWulf | basicly the rich = ruling class | May 10 18:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] lol ♺ @TMorais: O começo de uma teoria da conspiração? http://postal.blogs.sapo.pt/222076.html | May 10 18:26 | |
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| DaemonFC | ender2070, Actually, birth control is partially what led to a bigger "middle class" | May 10 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | less drain on income if you have fewer kids | May 10 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | means more income to spend on yourself | May 10 18:26 |
| ender2070 | abortions are different than birth control | May 10 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | better standard of living | May 10 18:26 |
| schestowitz | Trying to pass reform now is like putting a seatbelt on the corpse of someone who had a driving accident... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/09/AR2010050903008.html | May 10 18:26 |
| ender2070 | nobody has self control anymore due to the soft porn being sold to us as normal | May 10 18:26 |
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| ender2070 | they now have to make condoms for 12 year olds | May 10 18:27 |
| WireWulf | ender2070: thats it belame the porn industry | May 10 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, Jerking off next to a box of facial tissues is not exactly classy, granted | May 10 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | but I fail to see the long term harm in it | May 10 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | it cannot lead to kids | May 10 18:27 |
| ender2070 | and the porn industry is extremely sick | May 10 18:27 |
| Omar87 | WHAT?! :D | May 10 18:27 |
| WireWulf | porn is illegal in the state of alabama (so are sexx toys) | May 10 18:27 |
| ender2070 | the women are often victims of child abuse, some are hookers living on the streets | May 10 18:28 |
| WireWulf | go figure | May 10 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | Omar87, Avert your ears, I don't want to sully your reputation with that Allah dude | May 10 18:28 |
| ender2070 | most of them are addicted to all kinds of drugs | May 10 18:28 |
| ender2070 | some of them even get beaten off camera | May 10 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | I'm just courteous like that | May 10 18:28 |
| Omar87 | I just checked my Twitter, and for some reason, it says I have zero followers and followings!! :D | May 10 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Bug | May 10 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | WireWulf, The state of Alabama cannot make them illegal | May 10 18:28 |
| ender2070 | and dont take me as a right wing christian either | May 10 18:28 |
| ender2070 | im not | May 10 18:28 |
| ender2070 | lol | May 10 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | the courts have struck down those laws | May 10 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: there are several subscriber including mysel;f, twitter had these bugs before | May 10 18:29 |
| WireWulf | DaemonFC: the only loophole is a state owned sex shop in b'ham xD | May 10 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | WireWulf, You mean illegal to sell them? | May 10 18:29 |
| schestowitz | "Sex shop" sounds like brothel | May 10 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | They can't make it illegal to own them. | May 10 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | and even the illegal to sell part is questionable | May 10 18:30 |
| WireWulf | illegal to sell or own unless bought at said loophole in the law | May 10 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | it interferes with inter-state commerce | May 10 18:30 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, although I can see the tweets of the people I've followed, it still say I'm following nobody! :P | May 10 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | so the law may be invalid | May 10 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: they'll sort it out | May 10 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Give it a few days at most | May 10 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | There was an Indiana law years back that got struck by the state Supreme Court for interfering with inter-state commerce | May 10 18:30 |
| WireWulf | like alcohalic drinks have to be sold thorw the abc | May 10 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | the judge noted he did not like using the US constitution to strike state laws down, but he figured he would do it to avoid a costly federal court battle over it | May 10 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 10 18:31 |
| WireWulf | so a 5th can cost more then in any other state | May 10 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | the law said it was illegal to sell porn magazines | May 10 18:31 |
| WireWulf | and sexx toys | May 10 18:31 |
| WireWulf | :P | May 10 18:32 |
| ender2070 | inter-state commerce isnt in the constitution | May 10 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, yes it is | May 10 18:32 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, oh okay, here's the reason: "Follow count display is set to 0 and follow/unfollow is temporarily offline while we fix a bug. " | May 10 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | commerce clause | May 10 18:32 |
| ender2070 | then you could probably strike down any law | May 10 18:32 |
| ender2070 | as soon as you have one state that allows everything, all the others will have to do so | May 10 18:33 |
| WireWulf | untrue | May 10 18:33 |
| ender2070 | why not? | May 10 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | laws by nature take away freedom | May 10 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | you start with the freedom to do anything | May 10 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: don't waste time on it | May 10 18:33 |
| ender2070 | some stuff should be illegal | May 10 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | and laws take that freedom away one by one | May 10 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Laws are not endowments | May 10 18:34 |
| schestowitz | Laws are restrictions | May 10 18:34 |
| WireWulf | by desxign the US centeraly is weak meaning the states have bigger roles in goverment | May 10 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | wrong | May 10 18:34 |
| schestowitz | The only laws that don't change are laws of nature like gravity | May 10 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | there was a group that had that idea, WireWulf | May 10 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | they lost the civil war | May 10 18:34 |
| WireWulf | alabama tryed to give counties more power then te state (that honistly worked) pre civil war | May 10 18:34 |
| ender2070 | using your theory california couldnt ban lead products | May 10 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | Federal laws trump state laws | May 10 18:35 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, I haven't written new on my blog for like two weeks now.. Ugh! I really hate when this happens. -_- | May 10 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, Yes they can | May 10 18:35 |
| Omar87 | haven't written *anything* new.. | May 10 18:35 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: catch up with FSDaily.. | May 10 18:35 |
| ender2070 | no it will interfere with interstate-commerce | May 10 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | public health hazard, the EPA even recognizes that | May 10 18:35 |
| ender2070 | other states will be selling lead based products | May 10 18:35 |
| WireWulf | DaemonFC: but that was not in the design of the US law system | May 10 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | the Feds wouldn't stop them from banning lead | May 10 18:35 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, I keep visiting it every hour or two. | May 10 18:35 |
| ender2070 | so why is it different for porn | May 10 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | porn is not a health hazard | May 10 18:36 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, you can say I'm sort of addicted to it. :P | May 10 18:36 |
| ender2070 | porn is almost a human rights issue | May 10 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | not really | May 10 18:36 |
| ender2070 | yes really | May 10 18:36 |
| WireWulf | and al still has the right (by state law) not to have to fallow in US laws | May 10 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | the people in the porn consented to it | May 10 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | their dignity had a price | May 10 18:36 |
| schestowitz | Simon Phipps partying like it's 1975 http://www.flickr.com/photos/webmink/4574060621/ http://webmink.com/2010/05/08/changes-personal-and-general/ | May 10 18:36 |
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| DaemonFC | they sold it for that price | May 10 18:36 |
| ender2070 | consented to it to get illicit drugs in most cases | May 10 18:36 |
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| ender2070 | did they consent to getting aids? | May 10 18:36 |
| ender2070 | did they consent to being beaten? | May 10 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | they usually make you sign a waiver | May 10 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | over the HIV part | May 10 18:37 |
| ender2070 | yeah well you wanna sign a waiver saying i can murder you? | May 10 18:37 |
| ender2070 | ill see how much that stands up | May 10 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | you agree not to sue if you contract HIV while making that porn | May 10 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | well, you can still sue the other model | May 10 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | just not the production company | May 10 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | also, if the other model knew he/she was infected, it becomes a crime | May 10 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 10 18:38 |
| ender2070 | its not regulated one bit | May 10 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | you're basically waiving the civil liability part | May 10 18:38 |
| ender2070 | often they hire prostitutes right off the street | May 10 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | and only against the parties specified in the contract | May 10 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | you can't waive their liability from criminal charges though | May 10 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | if you are injured due to criminal action, it's not you pressing charges | May 10 18:39 |
| ender2070 | i wouldnt expect you to agree | May 10 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | it's the state | May 10 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | no, I know what I'm talking about here | May 10 18:39 |
| ender2070 | porn should be banned | May 10 18:39 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Yay! More FOSS coverage to come from Simon Phipps soon... http://webmink.com/2010/05/10/new-column/ | May 10 18:40 | |
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| DaemonFC | if you punch me in the face in front of a police officer, he will arrest you and you will be charged | May 10 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | and there's nothing I can do about it | May 10 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | even if I ask them to stop | May 10 18:40 |
| ender2070 | thats an entirely other issue | May 10 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | even if we had a contract stating you could do it | May 10 18:40 |
| ender2070 | porn leads to demoralization | May 10 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | oh well | May 10 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | you don't like it, don't look | May 10 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | you're not the conscience of the people | May 10 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | you are the conscience of you | May 10 18:41 |
| ender2070 | its a scientific fact now that boys who grow up with it treat women like sex objects | May 10 18:41 |
| ender2070 | its decaying society | May 10 18:41 |
| WireWulf | yeah has nothing to do with their moms or dads | May 10 18:41 |
| WireWulf | *sarcasum* | May 10 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | people who blame porn for everything are fucktards | May 10 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | they act like this stuff has just sprung up out of nowhere | May 10 18:42 |
| ender2070 | im not blaming it for everything | May 10 18:42 |
| kevin0091 | interesting that you think that, because i think mirage should be strictly regulated. it is the cause of most of the problems we see | May 10 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | like things like teen pregnancy didn't happen in the 1950s | May 10 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | they didn't talk about it back then | May 10 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | they stuck their fingers in their ears | May 10 18:42 |
| kevin0091 | trying to fix grub on this pc with the uuid | May 10 18:42 |
| ender2070 | it was a moral issue | May 10 18:42 |
| ender2070 | if your teenager got pregnant she was a whore | May 10 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | pretending the world is a better place than it is, is a self-defeating proposition | May 10 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | it weakens you | May 10 18:43 |
| ender2070 | plain and simple | May 10 18:43 |
| WireWulf | I think a major issue with the world is lack of disaplen | May 10 18:43 |
| kevin0091 | but just look at all of the people who get married and end up on shows like Maurey | May 10 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, What the problem is are sleazy daytime talk show hosts | May 10 18:43 |
| WireWulf | (excuse spelling) | May 10 18:43 |
| kevin0091 | and then the lawsuits start | May 10 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | allowing this shit to be paraded around like it was a good thing | May 10 18:43 |
| WireWulf | whip your children if they missbehieve | May 10 18:44 |
| WireWulf | make um do work around the house | May 10 18:44 |
| ender2070 | DaemonFC - thats what im saying, the media glorifies sex and it makes people fuck like rabbits | May 10 18:44 |
| WireWulf | ender2070: just say no to sex(it worked or drugs sorta) | May 10 18:45 |
| kevin0091 | well one of these has the uuid on its own dedicated line and the other does not. i wonder if that is the problem | May 10 18:45 |
| ender2070 | seinfeld banged a new broad in every episode, and it was played off as normal | May 10 18:45 |
| cubezzz | and way to communiate with between win95 and Linux through the parallel port? | May 10 18:45 |
| cubezzz | like laplink for linux or something? | May 10 18:46 |
| cubezzz | that would give me a way to make this clunk work better | May 10 18:46 |
| WireWulf | ender2070: yeah don't let you kids watch that | May 10 18:46 |
| ender2070 | people used to be discouraged from being whores, now its encouraged | May 10 18:46 |
| ender2070 | 'look like paris hilton!' | May 10 18:46 |
| cubezzz | eh? | May 10 18:46 |
| cubezzz | really? :) | May 10 18:47 |
| cubezzz | I must be out-of-date then | May 10 18:47 |
| ender2070 | look at how fasion has changed over the past 50 years | May 10 18:47 |
| ender2070 | fashion | May 10 18:47 |
| *WireWulf didn't know who paris hilton was till south park did that episode | May 10 18:47 | |
| cubezzz | ender2070, I have photos from the 1930s with women with very short skirts | May 10 18:47 |
| cubezzz | it's not that new | May 10 18:47 |
| cubezzz | I guess the 30's was the 1st "slut era" :) | May 10 18:48 |
| cubezzz | and the 70's | May 10 18:48 |
| ender2070 | thats because they did it in the 20's too | May 10 18:48 |
| cubezzz | it's just repeating | May 10 18:48 |
| ender2070 | the 20's was the first planned sexual revolution, it failed | May 10 18:48 |
| cubezzz | well, it was called the roaring 20's | May 10 18:48 |
| WireWulf | history always repeats its self | May 10 18:48 |
| ender2070 | the 60's was the next one, and they had drugs to make it work better and the pill | May 10 18:49 |
| ender2070 | they were planned events, read some stuff pre-1900 | May 10 18:49 |
| cubezzz | it would be kind of cool if I could do a linux install through the parallel port | May 10 18:49 |
| cubezzz | then Britney went one step further with the no underwear thing | May 10 18:50 |
| ender2070 | i remember reading about the canadian purple gang from windsor | May 10 18:50 |
| ender2070 | supplying capone in detroit with alcohol during the prohibition there | May 10 18:50 |
| cubezzz | I'm sure ancient greece had lots of orgies | May 10 18:51 |
| WireWulf | i had both sex ed and abusnece classes (excuse spelling) sex ed ended up making ppl want to do it more | May 10 18:51 |
| ender2070 | they had 'rum runners', guys who would strap bottles of booze to their legs and arms and would run across the frozen lake | May 10 18:51 |
| cubezzz | anyways :) | May 10 18:51 |
| ender2070 | WireWulf - sex ed has a new meaning now, kids participate in their own pornos | May 10 18:52 |
| WireWulf | the other made me want to wait till i know someone lots better | May 10 18:52 |
| ender2070 | school mandated | May 10 18:52 |
| cubezzz | we had to go to 7-11 for porn mags, kids today are spoiled :) | May 10 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz, Parallel port? | May 10 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | how old is that PC? | May 10 18:53 |
| cubezzz | yeah | May 10 18:53 |
| WireWulf | sex ed + making babies and making your parents pay for it is the only way to go | May 10 18:53 |
| cubezzz | it's 1996 | May 10 18:53 |
| cubezzz | and I have another one that's 1993 | May 10 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | WireWulf, Sex Ed is so politicized | May 10 18:53 |
| WireWulf | as i said the best way to combat sex and drugs is just say no | May 10 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | the prudes want to omit all references to STDs and unwanted pregnancies and let the kids walk into a trap | May 10 18:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] As the player piano playing new music is not the stuff of patent law, neither is the mathematics [in a computer] http://ur1.ca/0038u | May 10 18:54 | |
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| DaemonFC | and the liberals want to use it as part of the feminist movement and advertise abortions as contraceptive | May 10 18:54 |
| ender2070 | http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/election2010/2947453/Mums-slam-Lib-Dem-plans-to-let-teens-watch-and-star-in-porn-films.html | May 10 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | there's not going to be a sane sex ed | May 10 18:54 |
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| cubezzz | I still have the laplink parallel port cable | May 10 18:54 |
| ender2070 | [13:37] <DaemonFC> and the liberals want to use it as part of the feminist movement and advertise abortions as contraceptive | May 10 18:54 |
| WireWulf | abortions are murder | May 10 18:54 |
| ender2070 | and treat abortions as a womens rights issue | May 10 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | Sex is a natural part of life | May 10 18:54 |
| ender2070 | not as murder | May 10 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | it's a natural urge | May 10 18:55 |
| WireWulf | i stand by my clame abortion is murder | May 10 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | and wishing it out into the cornfield won't work | May 10 18:55 |
| ender2070 | WireWulf +1 | May 10 18:55 |
| ender2070 | abortion == murder | May 10 18:55 |
| cubezzz | what about the birth control pill? | May 10 18:55 |
| WireWulf | if you don't want a baby don't have sex | May 10 18:55 |
| ender2070 | i'm fine with birth control | May 10 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | birth control is fine | May 10 18:56 |
| WireWulf | or use protection (atleast) | May 10 18:56 |
| ender2070 | its the murder im not okay with | May 10 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | WireWulf, If birth control is murder, so is not having sex | May 10 18:56 |
| cubezzz | no it's not :) | May 10 18:56 |
| WireWulf | birth control is not murder | May 10 18:56 |
| cubezzz | that's crazy talk | May 10 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | not having se is murder because it prevents a viable fetus from developing | May 10 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | and being born | May 10 18:56 |
| WireWulf | abortions are | May 10 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | hence murder | May 10 18:56 |
| ender2070 | i believe if abortion becomes the norm, the elite will have no qualms about us | May 10 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | every second you're not having sex, you're killing babies | May 10 18:57 |
| ender2070 | they'll use the main reasons people get abortions as the main reasons to sterilize or kill us off | May 10 18:57 |
| WireWulf | mmmhmm | May 10 18:57 |
| ender2070 | 'cant afford us', 'too much resources' | May 10 18:57 |
| ender2070 | 'too much co2' | May 10 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | I stand by my opinion, abstinence is murder | May 10 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | it prevents a human life | May 10 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 10 18:58 |
| cubezzz | LPtransfer is the link laplink equivalent | May 10 18:58 |
| cubezzz | I knew there had to be something | May 10 18:58 |
| cubezzz | link=linux | May 10 18:58 |
| WireWulf | DaemonFC: in that matter sexxx is murder cuz every time you cum 500000000+ sperms cell die some one lives | May 10 18:59 |
| ender2070 | well you're guaranteed never to have kids DaemonFC, with or without abortion - why do you care? | May 10 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | I'm a genocidal madman | May 10 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | yes, I know | May 10 18:59 |
| ender2070 | WireWulf - actually using his logic, we're murdering children 24/7 | May 10 18:59 |
| ender2070 | the sperm dies inside and gets replaced if not used | May 10 18:59 |
| WireWulf | mmhmm | May 10 19:00 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] An explanation of why a computer running new software is not a "new machine": http://ur1.ca/003as | May 10 19:00 | |
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| WireWulf | but that is by design and hints nurnal | May 10 19:00 |
| WireWulf | abortions are not | May 10 19:00 |
| kevin0091 | is there some script that can automatically find the kernel? i keep getting uuid is invalid even though it is not | May 10 19:01 |
| ender2070 | kevin0091 - tried taking out uuid= from grub completely? | May 10 19:01 |
| kevin0091 | then it will not know where the root fs is | May 10 19:01 |
| ender2070 | have you tried? | May 10 19:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @zoobab: An explanation of why a computer running new software is not a "new machine": http://ur1.ca/003as | May 10 19:02 | |
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| WireWulf | brb food time | May 10 19:02 |
| ender2070 | just press E at ur grub menu, it wont save it | May 10 19:02 |
| kevin0091 | nope | May 10 19:02 |
| ender2070 | i dont think uuid is needed unless your hardcoding it to that drive | May 10 19:02 |
| ender2070 | im pretty sure i took it out | May 10 19:03 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @zoobab: An explanation of why a computer running new software is not a "new machine": http://ur1.ca/003as | May 10 19:03 | |
| ender2070 | or look for the backup file | May 10 19:03 |
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| ender2070 | ubuntu right? | May 10 19:03 |
| kevin0091 | nope. arch | May 10 19:03 |
| kevin0091 | yeah it seems like you should only have to tell it the partition once | May 10 19:03 |
| ender2070 | hmm im not sure where it is | May 10 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | kevin0091, There's your problem, GRUB | May 10 19:04 |
| ender2070 | you should have a backup file though | May 10 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 10 19:04 |
| cubezzz | hey there are parallel port Linux installs, neat | May 10 19:04 |
| cubezzz | I'll have to try that | May 10 19:04 |
| ender2070 | DaemonFC - nothing wrong with grub, better than LILO | May 10 19:04 |
| cubezzz | you need lilo though | May 10 19:04 |
| cubezzz | for really old linux | May 10 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | LILO has that annoying tendency to work | May 10 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | GRUB rectifies that | May 10 19:04 |
| ender2070 | daemon your a dumbass | May 10 19:06 |
| ender2070 | ubuntu !=linux | May 10 19:06 |
| ender2070 | they love to break stuff and have its users blame upstream | May 10 19:06 |
| cubezzz | basic linux (very small) uses lilo | May 10 19:07 |
| ender2070 | grub works | May 10 19:08 |
| WireWulf | basic linux (normal just the kernel) isn't a pain in the ass as somethink it is | May 10 19:08 |
| ender2070 | just rtfm | May 10 19:08 |
| ender2070 | lol | May 10 19:08 |
| cubezzz | basic linux is 2 floppy disks | May 10 19:09 |
| ender2070 | without all the drivers | May 10 19:09 |
| cubezzz | smaller than anything else I'm aware of | May 10 19:09 |
| WireWulf | "to confuse a windows user just say the fallowing: RTFM!!" | May 10 19:09 |
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| WireWulf | to confuse a *nix user hand him/her closed sorced software | May 10 19:11 |
| ender2070 | +1 | May 10 19:11 |
| cubezzz | haha | May 10 19:11 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/9052393 | May 10 19:12 |
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| schestowitz | Gordon Brown 'stepping down as Labour leader' http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8672859.stm | May 10 19:12 |
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| WireWulf | omg a windows hacker is lost.........he seems to be stuck in my linux box | May 10 19:13 |
| schestowitz | spray it | May 10 19:13 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Future EU patent court will be self-funded and might lead to prohibitive litigation costs for SMEs: http://ur1.ca/003fl | May 10 19:14 | |
| WireWulf | schestowitz: cost more and more money every year | May 10 19:15 |
| kevin0091 | nope that still doesn't work. guess i'll have to reinstall and then copy the menu.lst over | May 10 19:15 |
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| kevin0091 | but then the uuid will probably change again so that won't work | May 10 19:16 |
| WireWulf | kill it all and reistall? | May 10 19:16 |
| ender2070 | kevin0091 - you gotta have a menu.bak or menu.lst.bak or something | May 10 19:16 |
| kevin0091 | yeah this is an image that i made from another machine and i know it works because i restored it there | May 10 19:17 |
| kevin0091 | but when i restore it on this one, overwriting ubuntu it will not boot | May 10 19:17 |
| ender2070 | ahh | May 10 19:17 |
| kevin0091 | maybe you can hack the image and change the uuid in it | May 10 19:18 |
| ender2070 | http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=25 | May 10 19:18 |
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| cubezzz | maybe start backing up your /boot directory? :) | May 10 19:19 |
| ender2070 | WireWulf - http://cuttingthrough.jenkness.com/audio2010/Alan_Watt_on_TheSecretTruth_w_GeorgeButler_May082010.mp3 | May 10 19:19 |
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| ender2070 | WireWulf - this guy talks about bankers and socialism | May 10 19:19 |
| cubezzz | you could recreate menu.lst | May 10 19:20 |
| cubezzz | you want to see mine? | May 10 19:20 |
| _goblin | ooer | May 10 19:20 |
| _goblin | theres chat rooms for that. | May 10 19:20 |
| cubezzz | meh :-P | May 10 19:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Linux users the most generous? – “liberal in giving or sharing; unselfish” http://tinyurl.com/39hsr9j #linux #foss #microsoft #windows #mvp | May 10 19:21 | |
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| cubezzz | menu.lst isn't that complex | May 10 19:21 |
| ender2070 | cubezzz - he lost his uuid | May 10 19:21 |
| ender2070 | or doesnt know it | May 10 19:21 |
| ender2070 | in the first place | May 10 19:21 |
| ender2070 | he did a clone and its not detecting the new drive | May 10 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | _goblin, You want KETCHUP!?!?!? | May 10 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | ON LOBSTER!?!? | May 10 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 10 19:22 |
| WireWulf | ender2070: socialism aint all bad we would not have lazy ppl otherwise | May 10 19:22 |
| ender2070 | http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=&ved=0CBUQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.auditmypc.com%2Facronym%2FUUID.asp&rct=j&q=whats+my+uuid+clone&ei=_EroS6b7IIG0lQe5zeCUAw&usg=AFQjCNFlYOM1PMyLS9eY3QeuZZqQm3LAbA | May 10 19:22 |
| cubezzz | well, time to go to work | May 10 19:23 |
| cubezzz | back later | May 10 19:23 |
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| ender2070 | kevin0091 - the uuid should be unique, find it out before doing the image and change it | May 10 19:25 |
| ender2070 | it should be tied to the hard drive | May 10 19:25 |
| kevin0091 | yeah now i have to install a fresh system and then copy the menu.lst to a safe place and then blast the image over that | May 10 19:26 |
| kevin0091 | and then restore the menu.lst | May 10 19:26 |
| ender2070 | too bad u overwrote ubuntu | May 10 19:27 |
| ender2070 | you could have copied it down first | May 10 19:27 |
| _goblin | daemonfc: ? | May 10 19:27 |
| WireWulf | noodles again | May 10 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | ketchup! | May 10 19:27 |
| *WireWulf hates being broke | May 10 19:27 | |
| DaemonFC | on lobster!!! | May 10 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 10 19:27 |
| kevin0091 | but i figure the image will change the uuid so it still won't work | May 10 19:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Parallel importations are a killer of the UPLS court? http://ur1.ca/003iq | May 10 19:28 | |
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| DaemonFC | _goblin, The episode where Lister asks Kryten for ketchup for the lobster | May 10 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | Kryten's head explodes | May 10 19:28 |
| _goblin | daemonfc: ah yes......now I know..! | May 10 19:28 |
| _goblin | daemonfc: far too subtle for me.... | May 10 19:28 |
| schestowitz | Loster with ketchup makes sense | May 10 19:28 |
| schestowitz | One is perceived "expensive" and one as "Cheap", _so_? | May 10 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | real classy, the brown ketchup :) | May 10 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | I guess he meant steak sauce | May 10 19:29 |
| ender2070 | i love mobster sauce | May 10 19:29 |
| schestowitz | What is that? | May 10 19:29 |
| WireWulf | mmm green ketchup or even better catsup | May 10 19:30 |
| schestowitz | Is that what you call the stuff which comes out of SteveB's armpits when he shouts? | May 10 19:30 |
| _goblin | isnt lobster sauce just tom ketchup + Mayonaise? | May 10 19:30 |
| ThistleWeb | 9 out of 10 lobsters who stated a preference, said they weren't keen on lobster sauce, the other 1 in 10 either thought it'd be a free bath or was feeling suicidal | May 10 19:30 |
| schestowitz | WireWulf: green is easy | May 10 19:30 |
| schestowitz | Except the tomato | May 10 19:30 |
| schestowitz | People don't like green foods or blue | May 10 19:30 |
| schestowitz | Mental thing | May 10 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | meh, I don't know how any decent steakhouse could serve A1 sauce | May 10 19:30 |
| WireWulf | schestowitz: is why green ketchup wpuld work with lobster | May 10 19:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Jacob: if one could bring all the experienced patent judges together, they would fit in a minibus: http://ur1.ca/003ja | May 10 19:31 | |
| DaemonFC | if you have to pour A1 on it, send it back | May 10 19:31 |
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| DaemonFC | get a refund :P | May 10 19:31 |
| WireWulf | beings i dislike sea food | May 10 19:31 |
| ender2070 | i like the taste of A1 | May 10 19:31 |
| ender2070 | same with BBQ sauce | May 10 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, A1 is for leathery tasteless meat | May 10 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | not a well seasoned, tender-cut steak | May 10 19:32 |
| ender2070 | i think A1 is for any meat | May 10 19:32 |
| WireWulf | i like BBQ | May 10 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | A1 will ruin any good steak | May 10 19:32 |
| ender2070 | i think the patent on egg mcmuffins expired | May 10 19:32 |
| WireWulf | not just the sauce | May 10 19:32 |
| ender2070 | everyone offers them now | May 10 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | I guess what I'm saying, is that if the cut of steak is so bad that A1 improves it, just give up and go to McDonalds | May 10 19:33 |
| *schestowitz gets hungry due to IRC.... goes to kitchen | May 10 19:33 | |
| ender2070 | burger king had a commercial where the king stole the plans from mcdonalds vault | May 10 19:33 |
| *WireWulf walks to the microwave brb | May 10 19:33 | |
| ender2070 | subway has them now too | May 10 19:33 |
| ender2070 | subways are the best too | May 10 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | I love Subway | May 10 19:34 |
| ender2070 | i had subways egg mcmuffin the other day with BBQ sauce | May 10 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | I've eaten there every day this week actually | May 10 19:34 |
| ender2070 | yum yum | May 10 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | the $5 footlong :) | May 10 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | the tuna on wheat is my favorite | May 10 19:34 |
| ender2070 | for subs tho i like the cold cut combo w/ jalapenos + southwest sauce | May 10 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | lettuce, tomato, cucumber, jalapeno, banana peppers, black olives, and ranch dressing :D | May 10 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | pepperjack cheese | May 10 19:35 |
| ender2070 | i have ranch at mr sub cause they dont have southwest | May 10 19:35 |
| ender2070 | southwest sauce ftw | May 10 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | cold cut sub isn't my favorite | May 10 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | it's not bad though | May 10 19:36 |
| ender2070 | i like the pizza one too | May 10 19:36 |
| ender2070 | with jalapenos | May 10 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I get jalapenos on everything | May 10 19:36 |
| ender2070 | i dont on everything | May 10 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, One time I asked for the veggie delite with lots of jalapenos and spicy brown mustard, right? | May 10 19:37 |
| ender2070 | some of the fancier stuff i want to taste a bit more | May 10 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | pick it up, get home with it, it's a footlong wheat bun with nothing but jalapeno and brown mustard | May 10 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 10 19:37 |
| ender2070 | the chicken teriyaki | May 10 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | I called and complained, got a bunch of free sub coupons | May 10 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | how could anyone be that dumb? | May 10 19:37 |
| ender2070 | lol | May 10 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 10 19:37 |
| ender2070 | you guys have quiznos? | May 10 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | there's one in Fort Wayne | May 10 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | that's about 25 miles | May 10 19:38 |
| ender2070 | boooo | May 10 19:38 |
| ender2070 | they are so tastey | May 10 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | there's an Elmo's subs and pizza in Roanoke, they have good stuff | May 10 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | that's about 10 miles | May 10 19:38 |
| ender2070 | quiznos is like an orgasm in your mouth | May 10 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | Roanoke is like the halfway point between here and Fort Wayne | May 10 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 10 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, Oddly enough, my electric bicycle can make it from my house to Elmo's Pizza and Subs one one battery | May 10 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | and will die there :) | May 10 19:40 |
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| ender2070 | lol | May 10 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | of course the other battery will get me back | May 10 19:40 |
| ender2070 | and your legs | May 10 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | nope | May 10 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 10 19:40 |
| ender2070 | i would at least peddle there | May 10 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | well, I noticed it does make it further if I peddle and hold the throttle down | May 10 19:41 |
| ender2070 | get my metabolism going, eat, then lazy back | May 10 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | few miles at least | May 10 19:41 |
| _goblin | .... | May 10 19:41 |
| ender2070 | i walk like 20KM each day | May 10 19:41 |
| kevin0091 | maybe i have to change the fstab file's uuid too | May 10 19:42 |
| ender2070 | i wish i had a bike but im poor | May 10 19:42 |
| ender2070 | lol | May 10 19:42 |
| kevin0091 | i forgot about that | May 10 19:42 |
| ender2070 | kevin0091 - umm yes :P | May 10 19:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] It's hard to see how a judge may find that an SME in some part of Europe is infringing a patent which is only in English http://ur1.ca/003ms | May 10 19:43 | |
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| kevin0091 | so after restoring this, it will break again until i do that | May 10 19:43 |
| ender2070 | yeah | May 10 19:43 |
| ender2070 | for sure | May 10 19:44 |
| kevin0091 | too bad those have to be so long... i mean, i might as well be typing a windows serial number | May 10 19:44 |
| ender2070 | fstab doesnt require uuid's | May 10 19:44 |
| ender2070 | i think thats what i was thinking | May 10 19:45 |
| ender2070 | not grub | May 10 19:45 |
| ender2070 | grub you can change it to like root=/dev/sda3 or whatever device it is | May 10 19:45 |
| ender2070 | instead of uuid= | May 10 19:45 |
| ender2070 | not sure what if its LVM though | May 10 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | when is Fedora 14 alpha? | May 10 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | with the rolling rawhide, it should be soon, right? | May 10 19:46 |
| kevin0091 | what is the command to see the uuid of a partition? | May 10 19:48 |
| ender2070 | you can run it right now if u roll rawhide | May 10 19:48 |
| ender2070 | im running f13 rc | May 10 19:49 |
| ender2070 | rpmfusion has f13 akmod-nvidia packages now | May 10 19:49 |
| WireWulf | back | May 10 19:53 |
| kevin0091 | wow i am wasting more time with this than i would have just re-configuring an entire system | May 10 19:59 |
| kevin0091 | apparently we can't say root=/dev/sda2 instead root=dev/disk/uuid/etc. that would be too simple | May 10 20:00 |
| WireWulf | duh | May 10 20:01 |
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| DaemonFC | GRUB takes pride in being obtuse | May 10 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | May 10 20:08 |
| ender2070 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlOUXWQP-KM | May 10 20:11 |
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| ender2070 | i like the song | May 10 20:14 |
| ender2070 | lol | May 10 20:14 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: http://www.law.com/jsp/cc/PubArticleCC.jsp?id=1202457878810&Patent_Litigation_Weekly_Acacia_Stock_Price_Holds_Firm_Despite_Companys_Third_Trial_Loss__ | May 10 20:14 |
| ender2070 | [14:52] <nucleo> The Fedora 14 release name is: Laughlin | May 10 20:16 |
| ender2070 | [14:56] <nucleo> Laughlin - 610 votes, Laramie - 594, Ventnor - 507 | May 10 20:16 |
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| Techrights | [14:52] <nucleo> The Fedora 14 release name is: Laughlin | May 10 20:16 |
| Techrights | [14:56] <nucleo> Laughlin - 610 votes, Laramie - 594, Ventnor - 507 | May 10 20:16 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/45088 | May 10 20:19 |
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| ender2070 | lol I knew mandriva would be sleeping with the fishies | May 10 20:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Could #RedHat buy #Mandriva and put Mandriva's good tools in Fedora? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/45088 | May 10 20:21 | |
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| schestowitz | It's not, ender2070 | May 10 20:21 |
| ender2070 | financial trouble? | May 10 20:21 |
| ender2070 | if they arent bought it sounds like another chapter 11 bankrupcy | May 10 20:21 |
| ender2070 | schestowitz - http://www.pwnage.ca/leaked-results.png | May 10 20:41 |
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| ender2070 | grab it quick and tell me when you're done | May 10 20:41 |
| ender2070 | im not leaving it up | May 10 20:41 |
| _goblin | ender2070: never liked Mandriva.....it was so bad for me I didn't even write an article on it. | May 10 20:42 |
| ender2070 | they wont release these details until tomorrow | May 10 20:42 |
| _goblin | never seen a distro so dogged with bugs that other users seemed to just accept. | May 10 20:42 |
| ender2070 | think of it as a techrights exclusive | May 10 20:42 |
| ender2070 | _goblin - mandriva uses an old kde and makes it look like a kde3 desktop | May 10 20:43 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Computer Pioneer Max Palevsky Dead At 85 http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/supercomputers/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=224701176 | May 10 20:47 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I just got into an argument with the manager of the supermarket :P | May 10 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | "You can't park your bike there!" | May 10 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | Me: "Where? On the sidewalk?" | May 10 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | "In front of the store, it's an eyesore, blocking merchandise" | May 10 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | Me: "You can't be serious. Do they actually pay you a salary to bitch about something so meaningless?" | May 10 20:49 |
| ender2070 | LOL | May 10 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | "I'm going to have to ask you to leave the store" | May 10 20:50 |
| MinceR | is that the store you work for? | May 10 20:50 |
| ender2070 | the government run sidewalk? | May 10 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | Me: "Yeah whatever, you stupid fucking jerk!" | May 10 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | flipped him off on my way out | May 10 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 10 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, No, but judging him by that 2-3 minutes, I think I feel sorry for anyone who does work there | May 10 20:51 |
| MinceR | :> | May 10 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | How do idiots like him always find their way into positions of authority? | May 10 20:52 |
| MinceR | well, i guess many places know the fine art of losing customers nowadays | May 10 20:52 |
| ender2070 | lots | May 10 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart never complains, and I brink the bike into the store to park it | May 10 20:52 |
| ender2070 | authority is a magnet for certain types of idiots and assholes | May 10 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | not once has anyone complained about that | May 10 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | I bring it to Owens (Kroger) and park it on the public sidewalk out in front, and they ban me from the store? | May 10 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | that's messed up | May 10 20:53 |
| ender2070 | lol complain to the city | May 10 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | no, that's OK | May 10 20:53 |
| ender2070 | im sure they will cater to you | May 10 20:53 |
| ender2070 | bikes are on the agenda | May 10 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | I can't have my grocery dollars knowingly funding that idiot's paycheck | May 10 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 10 20:54 |
| ender2070 | i never said go back | May 10 20:54 |
| ender2070 | just get him in shit from the city government | May 10 20:54 |
| ender2070 | im sure they want a case like yours for la21 | May 10 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | Owens actually manages to have worse customer service than the Walmart | May 10 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | want to fill a prescription? better clear your afternoon schedule | May 10 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | I'm still trying to figure out why it's worth losing a customer over them parking their bicycle somewhere out of the way and not on your property | May 10 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | is there any logic there? | May 10 20:56 |
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| ender2070 | he thinks having your bike there will cost him customers | May 10 20:57 |
| ender2070 | when he doesnt have data to support such a theory | May 10 20:57 |
| amarsh04 | last 2 scripts I had filled, pharmacist asked "you've had prescriptions filled her before?", I answered yes and came back 10 minutes later to pay for them and pick them up | May 10 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | Owens takes at least an hour | May 10 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | maybe two | May 10 20:57 |
| ender2070 | eww | May 10 20:57 |
| ender2070 | every place I go to is like 10-15 mins | May 10 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I never go there by choice | May 10 20:57 |
| ender2070 | small shops to massive corps | May 10 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart gets them filled pretty quickly | May 10 20:58 |
| MinceR | were there any custom-made drugs there? | May 10 20:58 |
| ender2070 | custom made doesnt matter | May 10 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | That's OK, Kroger won't last long here now that Walmart is a supercenter | May 10 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart already killed off Marsh | May 10 20:58 |
| MinceR | otherwise i have no idea what takes even 10 minutes about it | May 10 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | didn't take long | May 10 20:58 |
| ender2070 | ohhh | May 10 20:58 |
| ender2070 | lol | May 10 20:58 |
| ender2070 | yeah its like 10-15 for custom | May 10 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They have to count them 20 times just to be sure | May 10 20:59 |
| MinceR | lol | May 10 20:59 |
| ender2070 | usually its all custom depending on the store | May 10 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | then they have to go down the list, pill by pill and match them with the coding and coloring | May 10 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | and do that 20 times | May 10 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | and then you still get an Methadone fill instead of your allergy medicine sometimes | May 10 20:59 |
| ender2070 | the only thing you cant get filled fast is oxycodon | May 10 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | and you hear about it on the evening news | May 10 21:00 |
| ender2070 | they special order it, takes 24 hours | May 10 21:00 |
| MinceR | why can't they give out drugs by box like they do here? | May 10 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, Too many pharmacies robbed | May 10 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, You can probably get Oxycontin faster on the street, and cheaer perhaps | May 10 21:00 |
| ender2070 | rofl | May 10 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | depends on if they re-imported it from Canada | May 10 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | I would imagine :D | May 10 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, What I always thought funny was that we have to worry (apparently) about the safety and efficacy of drugs you bought from us to begin with | May 10 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | then after they get done saying this, they recall another FDA-certified pain killer because it was causing heart attacks | May 10 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | and three more people died from pharmacy fuck-ups | May 10 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 10 21:02 |
| ender2070 | i dont give much credit to the FDA | May 10 21:03 |
| MinceR | we, too, have state regulating institutions asleep at the wheel | May 10 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, The best story I saw re the drug cartel, was this 14 year old boy right? | May 10 21:04 |
| ender2070 | the FDA would freakout if they found out Canada was giving PhD's to herbalists | May 10 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | Doctor puts him on Ritalin for "ADHD" | May 10 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | next thing you know, the pharmacy gives him Methadone by mistake and he dies | May 10 21:04 |
| ender2070 | ouch | May 10 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | and all the while the doctors are telling the parents to cut the Ritalin in half | May 10 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | over the week it takes him to die | May 10 21:05 |
| ender2070 | the doctor wont assume it was a fuckup | May 10 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | an agonizing death that should have had them discontinue everything while they sort shit out | May 10 21:05 |
| ender2070 | he barely even does a diagnosis in the first place | May 10 21:05 |
| ender2070 | its all guess work in a white jacket | May 10 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | so a kid died because of a doctor that evaluated him in 5 minutes, ut him on an overprescribed and powerful drug, combined with a pharmacy fuck up | May 10 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | that's how the medical system works | May 10 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | the doctor doesn't want to know you | May 10 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | if he can get you out a minute sooner, he can bill more patients | May 10 21:07 |
| ender2070 | he'll also feel guilty if he knows you | May 10 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | true | May 10 21:07 |
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| DaemonFC | ender2070, What do you think about all this high blood pressure high cholesterol frenzy? | May 10 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | I'm on drugs for both | May 10 21:08 |
| _goblin | I had a high cholesterol..... | May 10 21:08 |
| ender2070 | DaemonFC - ppl not having a balanced diet | May 10 21:08 |
| _goblin | 5.3 I think | May 10 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | you figure those problems have always existed and they choose now to scream about them | May 10 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | to sell drugs? | May 10 21:08 |
| ender2070 | some of it is sure | May 10 21:08 |
| ender2070 | you could elimate the need for drugs if u started eating healthy organic non-gmo fruits and vegatables | May 10 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | well, what I found odd was that my blood pressure is just like that | May 10 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | seems to be totally unaffected by caffeine or salt | May 10 21:09 |
| ender2070 | anyways i have to go for now im starving | May 10 21:09 |
| ender2070 | later | May 10 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | I went on a low salt no cafeine diet for a few weeks and my blood pressure hadn't even gone down enough to account for the difference in two readings | May 10 21:09 |
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| DaemonFC | now, what's interesting is that my cholesterol went down quite a lot on a vegetarian diet, but that's also when I found out that eating a proper diet will double your food bill | May 10 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 10 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | so that only lasted a few months | May 10 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | it's cheaper to just eat the unhealthiest shit you can find and cover it with pills | May 10 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9176500/Twitter_wipes_out_followers_to_kill_bug | May 10 21:16 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Jolly Rancher lands third-grader in detention for a week http://ur1.ca/0045h | May 10 21:17 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Do 'Family Values' Weaken Families? http://ur1.ca/zcxt | May 10 21:17 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Obama chooses Kagan for Supreme Court http://ur1.ca/0045t | May 10 21:17 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Obama's natural choice of Kagan http://ur1.ca/0045v | May 10 21:17 | |
| Techrights | Title: Jolly Rancher lands Brazos ISD third-grader in detention for a week | khou.com | Khou.com - News, Houston news, Texas News, Headlines .::. Size~: 267.27 KB | May 10 21:17 |
| Techrights | Title: National Journal Magazine - Do 'Family Values' Weaken Families? .::. Size~: 28.69 KB | May 10 21:17 |
| Techrights | Title: AP source: Obama chooses Kagan for Supreme Court .::. Size~: 28.22 KB | May 10 21:17 |
| Techrights | Title: Obama's natural choice of Kagan - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com .::. Size~: 71.18 KB | May 10 21:17 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Bladeless wind turbine inspired by Tesla http://ur1.ca/0046f !science | May 10 21:22 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Valeric fuels: a new generation of biogasoline and biodiesel from lignocellulose http://ur1.ca/0046r !science | May 10 21:22 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Hot new material can keep electronics cool: Few atomic layers of graphene reveal unique thermal properties http://ur1.ca/0046s !science | May 10 21:22 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] New evidence for quantum Darwinism found in quantum dots http://ur1.ca/00471 !science | May 10 21:22 | |
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| Techrights | Title: Valeric fuels: a new generation of biogasoline and biodiesel from lignocellulose .::. Size~: 70.97 KB | May 10 21:22 |
| Techrights | Title: Hot new material can keep electronics cool: Few atomic layers of graphene reveal unique thermal properties .::. Size~: 74.88 KB | May 10 21:22 |
| Techrights | Title: New evidence for quantum Darwinism found in quantum dots .::. Size~: 101.58 KB | May 10 21:22 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Genes found for schizophrenia are involved in brain signaling http://ur1.ca/00477 !science | May 10 21:27 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Researchers offer first proof that chemicals from seaweeds damage coral on contact http://ur1.ca/0047h !science | May 10 21:27 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Zero tolerance ineffective in schools, study finds http://ur1.ca/0047m !science | May 10 21:27 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Air travel of the future is expected to be quieter, cleaner and more environmentally friendly. http://ur1.ca/0047t !science | May 10 21:27 | |
| Techrights | Title: Genes found for schizophrenia are involved in brain signaling .::. Size~: 70.93 KB | May 10 21:27 |
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| Techrights | Title: Zero tolerance ineffective in schools, study finds .::. Size~: 67.2 KB | May 10 21:27 |
| Techrights | Title: The new sky .::. Size~: 73.35 KB | May 10 21:27 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @JoseDePina: Depois de tanto Papa/Fátima e Benfica nas TV's estou admirado de ainda não ter aparecido nada sobre o Salazar. | May 10 21:57 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @PauloQuerido: RT @31daSarrafada: Ainda não percebi isto: Para quê tanta segurança terrena para Ratzinger? Deus não o protege? | May 10 22:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Tories are using this 2nd unelected PM line, when a cabinet is reshuffled do they say they are unelected? It is not a presidential system. | May 10 22:09 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] #elmdentica + #ventura + #shrproject == happy #freeruner online experience :) | May 10 22:11 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] #kvm still gives me an instantaneous reboot in #fedora 12 but I was pleasantly surprised to see plain #qemu survive suspend ! | May 10 22:19 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/05/09/zelizer.mitch.daniels/ | May 10 22:25 |
| Techrights | Title: Gov. Daniels: GOP's best hope for 2012? - CNN.com .::. Size~: 39.39 KB | May 10 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | yuck | May 10 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | President Mitch Daniels? Please no! | May 10 22:25 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: On Mandriva is for sale? http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2010051000335NWMD | May 10 22:27 |
| Techrights | Title: Linux Today - Mandriva is for sale .::. Size~: 79.02 KB | May 10 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | that's sad | May 10 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | they have one of the better distros | May 10 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | no money in it though I guess | May 10 22:35 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/anand_agarawala_demos_his_bumptop_desktop.html | May 10 22:44 |
| Techrights | Title: Anand Agarawala demos BumpTop | Video on TED.com .::. Size~: 43.88 KB | May 10 22:44 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] BP continues kludgey, toxic attempts to contain Gulf oil spill, limit damage http://ur1.ca/004mg | May 10 22:47 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] BP's contributions to Congress dwarf amount received by Obama (and GOPers got most) http://ur1.ca/004mk | May 10 22:47 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Galaxy cluster at the edge of the Universe http://ur1.ca/004ml !science | May 10 22:47 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Congradulations ur1.ca, you have finally rolled over to 5 characters, the change occured an hour ago | May 10 22:47 | |
| Techrights | Title: BP continues kludgey, toxic attempts to contain Gulf oil spill, limit damage - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 57.48 KB | May 10 22:47 |
| Techrights | Title: BP's contributions to Congress dwarf amount received by Obama (and GOPers got most) - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 30.44 KB | May 10 22:47 |
| Techrights | Title: Galaxy cluster at the edge of the Universe | Bad Astronomy | Discover Magazine .::. Size~: 85.04 KB | May 10 22:47 |
| schestowitz | [20:41] <ender2070> schestowitz - http://www.pwnage.ca/leaked-results.png | May 10 22:51 |
| Techrights | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/png type .::. Size~: 0 KB | May 10 22:51 |
| schestowitz | Why grab it? | May 10 22:51 |
| schestowitz | The #mandriva channel says nothing about those rumours | May 10 22:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] We did some more recording on the weekend - this is a test, so yes, there are errors :) - Dandelion Dreams as MP3 http://bit.ly/bjdUz8 | May 10 22:56 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @diablod3 Galaxy cluster at the edge of the Universe http://ur1.ca/004ml #science | May 10 22:56 | |
| Techrights | Title: Galaxy cluster at the edge of the Universe | Bad Astronomy | Discover Magazine .::. Size~: 81.61 KB | May 10 22:56 |
| schestowitz | re Symantec FUD: http://identi.ca/notice/31711968 "somebody should take them to court. it's bad enough that AV software is worse than malware - they should just STFU." | May 10 22:56 |
| Techrights | Title: Michał Andrzej Woźniak (rysiek) 's status on Monday, 10-May-10 15:08:21 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.67 KB | May 10 22:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] We did some more recording on the weekend - this is a test, so yes, there are errors :) - Origami Penguins as MP3 http://bit.ly/9B2wfg | May 10 22:58 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fedora 14 will be called "Laughlin" #gnu #linux #redhat | May 10 23:00 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Ubuntu is causing a lot of damage it seems | May 10 23:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] AV in Australia results in the same two-party lockup as FPTP in the UK. They're offering nothing. #ge2010 #dontdoitnick | May 10 23:02 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: no | May 10 23:09 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu can't make much money off it either | May 10 23:09 |
| schestowitz | Look up mike masnick's talks in YouTube | May 10 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | why would Ubuntu exist if they can't make money? | May 10 23:10 |
| schestowitz | He explains that with abundance cost interests based on demand and supply (infinite) | May 10 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | or at least think they can | May 10 23:10 |
| schestowitz | Usually $0 | May 10 23:10 |
| schestowitz | So they need to sell services or something | May 10 23:10 |
| cubezzz | yes | May 10 23:10 |
| cubezzz | that's what I do also | May 10 23:10 |
| schestowitz | What I do in Techrights doesn't pay me anything | May 10 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, selling the OS itself just doesn't work with Linux | May 10 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu needs subscription nicities to go with it | May 10 23:11 |
| schestowitz | It would be wrong to say that the site didn't help me in ways such as make me friends with some people | May 10 23:11 |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, at least you get some adsense money? | May 10 23:11 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: Windows too | May 10 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Windows doesnt' make much money... not like it used to | May 10 23:11 |
| schestowitz | The OEM lock is what keeps it trickling something in | May 10 23:11 |
| schestowitz | That too... not for long | May 10 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | neither did the subscription services | May 10 23:11 |
| schestowitz | See Android vs WinMob | May 10 23:12 |
| cubezzz | services is where it's at | May 10 23:12 |
| schestowitz | WinMob is a money toilet | May 10 23:12 |
| schestowitz | And now they want to sell h/w... Zin [sic] | May 10 23:12 |
| cubezzz | subscriptions of all types | May 10 23:12 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: that too | May 10 23:12 |
| schestowitz | Google does make money from FOSS | May 10 23:12 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, old margins are dying | May 10 23:12 |
| schestowitz | less hefty transactions | May 10 23:12 |
| schestowitz | Less buying | May 10 23:12 |
| schestowitz | More downloading | May 10 23:12 |
| cubezzz | others sell hardware | May 10 23:12 |
| schestowitz | We have the internet now | May 10 23:12 |
| schestowitz | If you're a barber or a gardener, the Internet is not a threat to you | May 10 23:13 |
| schestowitz | Alas... | May 10 23:13 |
| schestowitz | For publishers, newspapers, authors, programmer, etc. it's a life changer | May 10 23:13 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: IBM | May 10 23:13 |
| schestowitz | And HP | May 10 23:13 |
| cubezzz | butcher, baker, candle-stick maker? :) | May 10 23:13 |
| cubezzz | well maybe not the candle-stick makers | May 10 23:13 |
| schestowitz | I like pizzq! | May 10 23:13 |
| schestowitz | *zza | May 10 23:13 |
| schestowitz | Cuisine changes are disruptive too | May 10 23:13 |
| schestowitz | There used to be more restaurants because junk food stores expanding outside the US | May 10 23:14 |
| cubezzz | hair cutters always make money | May 10 23:14 |
| schestowitz | Efficient junk makers... that tastes like food, costs less | May 10 23:14 |
| schestowitz | Restaurants with rent, dishes, waiters, etc. can't compete on price | May 10 23:14 |
| schestowitz | They need to offer something else | May 10 23:14 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: unless hair fashion changes | May 10 23:15 |
| cubezzz | people who can fix stuff | May 10 23:15 |
| schestowitz | People these days have short hair and many use trimmers/shavers | May 10 23:15 |
| cubezzz | maintainence workers | May 10 23:15 |
| cubezzz | content producers | May 10 23:16 |
| cubezzz | lots of ways to make money | May 10 23:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] #ubuntu video crew at #uds have uploaded a higher quality version of Mark Shuttleworths keynote from today http://blip.tv/file/3603061 | May 10 23:17 | |
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| DaemonFC | I need to go to Walmart or something get a 25 foot phone cord | May 10 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | must have ditched the last one I had :P | May 10 23:23 |
| cubezzz | programmer shouldn't have to worry either | May 10 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | can't believe I did that | May 10 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | breaks my first rule of electronics | May 10 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | never throw a cord away, no matter how useless it is at the moment | May 10 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | you always need one later :P | May 10 23:24 |
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| MinceR | gn | May 10 23:27 |
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| DaemonFC | does anyone know what that card is in my satellite set top boxes? | May 10 23:44 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Maybe I should have asked in the Mandriva channel | May 10 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | instead of their dead chat channel | May 10 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | also I noticed a typo, Oh not On, above | May 10 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | as for Ubuntu well yeah services to make money | May 10 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | that's already began the cloud and Ubuntu Music Store | May 10 23:57 |
| schestowitz | Yes | May 10 23:57 |
| schestowitz | That's OK with me | May 10 23:57 |
| schestowitz | They're a business | May 10 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | also I think 10.10 will replace Synaptic with Software Centre, but also offer commercial apps for people to buy | May 10 23:57 |
| schestowitz | If people pay for music, they might as well pass the commissions to Canonical | May 10 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | well if they don't want to buy a CD | May 10 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | sure | May 10 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | also I guess that music store is way better than rubbishey Itunes | May 10 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | screw Itunes | May 10 23:58 |
| schestowitz | iToons | May 10 23:59 |
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