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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@mstudios one healthy outcome of shortener mania-sites starting to generate own short urls like they should've day 1. (#seo being bullshit) | May 13 00:08 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More #Games Going Free Software http://blog.wolfire.com/2010/05/Lugaru-goes-open-source wonderful! | May 13 00:08 | |
| Techrights | Title: Lugaru goes open-source - Wolfire Games Blog .::. Size~: 20.25 KB | May 13 00:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Heaps of GNU/Linux Game Additions http://ur1.ca/00kb0 http://ur1.ca/00kb1 http://ur1.ca/00kb2 http://ur1.ca/00kb3 | May 13 00:12 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Menubars #KDE SC for; Touch Support in Qt 4.7 http://ur1.ca/00kbt http://ur1.ca/00kbu http://ur1.ca/00kbv | May 13 00:14 | |
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| Techrights | Title: 6 Useful Widgets For Amarok Music Player Make Tech Easier .::. Size~: 39.35 KB | May 13 00:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] GTK+ 3.0 Test Release and Other #GNOME Desktop News http://ur1.ca/00kc4 http://ur1.ca/00kc6 http://ur1.ca/00kc7 | May 13 00:16 | |
| Techrights | Title: [Phoronix] The First GTK+ 3.0 Test Release .::. Size~: 15.29 KB | May 13 00:16 |
| Techrights | Title: The life, the universe and everything » Blog Archive » GNOME Marketing Hackfest Zaragoza .::. Size~: 148.95 KB | May 13 00:16 |
| Techrights | Title: I had an epiphany (about Epiphany) - CLICK .::. Size~: 32.92 KB | May 13 00:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Short Reviews of #TinyCore #Linux and #ArkLinux http://ur1.ca/00kcm http://ur1.ca/00kcn | May 13 00:19 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Event in #Europe Covers Linux-based #XtreemOS ; #VistA Community Meeting Comes http://ur1.ca/00kcz http://ur1.ca/00kd0 | May 13 00:19 | |
| Techrights | Title: Tiny Core Linux: My first impression: innovative and amazing - CLICK .::. Size~: 37.53 KB | May 13 00:19 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Releases of #GNU #Linux : #MythTV 0.23, #Slackware 13.1 Beta http://www.mythtv.org/ http://ur1.ca/00kdk | May 13 00:23 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #PCLinuxOS 2010 #OpenBox Edition is Out, New PCLinuxOS Magazine http://pclinuxos.com/?p=626 http://ur1.ca/00kdo | May 13 00:24 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] blog-worthy topic: why the web isn't #dtp and why what it needs NOW is *not* "zillions more fonts". #woff #www #typography | May 13 00:26 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Next #RedHat #GNU #Linux Reviewed by The Register http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/07/rhel_6_beta_review/ | May 13 00:27 | |
| Techrights | Title: RHEL 6 - your sensible but lovable friend • The Register .::. Size~: 32.68 KB | May 13 00:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fedora Gets Another Release Name, 3D Graphics http://ur1.ca/00key http://ur1.ca/00kf2 http://ur1.ca/002vl | May 13 00:28 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Syncrude #Alberta #oil execs argue that enforcing laws is a "threat to business". http://bit.ly/bGFRYc #canada #drillBabyDrill #pollution | May 13 00:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fedora Drops PPC, Makes Plan for Release 13 http://ur1.ca/00kfw http://ur1.ca/00kfy http://ur1.ca/00key | May 13 00:31 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_windows_part3&num=1 | May 13 00:35 |
| Techrights | Title: [Phoronix] Mac OS X 10.6.3 vs. Windows 7 vs. Ubuntu 10.04 Benchmarks .::. Size~: 19.81 KB | May 13 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | Linux loses | May 13 00:35 |
| schestowitz | OpenGL? | May 13 00:37 |
| schestowitz | Down t drivers | May 13 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | so Intel's open source drivers are worse on Linux as well as Nvidia's proprietary drivers? | May 13 00:38 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Several New Reviews of #Ubuntu GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/00kje http://ur1.ca/008dl http://ur1.ca/00kjf | May 13 00:44 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Wise words RT @Shoq RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! RT @TechZader: #Microsoft Releases #Office, #SharePoint 2010 for Businesses http://bit.ly/9XKgaZ | May 13 00:47 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at Future Releases of #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/00kjx http://ur1.ca/00kjz http://ur1.ca/00kk0 | May 13 00:48 | |
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| Techrights | Title: Ubuntu Developer Summit: Unity, Ubuntu Light and More .::. Size~: 51.02 KB | May 13 00:48 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at Ubuntu/Debian/Mint Variants http://ur1.ca/00kke http://ur1.ca/00kkf http://ur1.ca/00kkg http://ur1.ca/00kkh | May 13 00:49 | |
| Techrights | Title: What's all the fuss about Peppermint OS? .::. Size~: 100.87 KB | May 13 00:49 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux Powers Smart Guitar, Ice Cream Maker http://ur1.ca/00kkj http://ur1.ca/00kkk | May 13 00:51 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@eikonos Yeah I use the acronym #dtp semi-ironically knowing that almost nobody remembers what it stands for ;-) #typography #woff | May 13 00:52 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Killer NIC is Back and It Runs #Linux http://www.anandtech.com/show/3716/bigfoot-networks-announces-3rd-gen-killer-nic-killer-2100 | May 13 00:52 | |
| Techrights | Title: Bigfoot Networks Announces 3rd Gen Killer NIC: Killer 2100 - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News .::. Size~: 39.28 KB | May 13 00:52 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Internet #Tuner Runs #Linux http://ur1.ca/00kkx http://ur1.ca/00kkz | May 13 00:54 | |
| Techrights | Title: Pandora-ready Internet tuner costs $105 - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 56.85 KB | May 13 00:54 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nokia 's #MeeGo Uses Oracle's #Linux File System http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODIzOA #btrfs | May 13 00:55 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Android Reaches More Devices and Climbs up Charts http://ur1.ca/004ww http://ur1.ca/00kl8 http://ur1.ca/00kl9 | May 13 00:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@majidrazvi Actual question: I want to cite a reliable source but have no idea what to search for. // try http://RentAPhysicist.com | May 13 01:01 | |
| Techrights | Title: Web hosting, domain name registration and web services by 1&1 Internet .::. Size~: 5.7 KB | May 13 01:01 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Fresh from #war propagandaville, Bigelow plans to make more shit up about South America; locals unimpressed http://bit.ly/9xF7Hq #hollywood | May 13 01:06 | |
| Techrights | Title: Oscar-winner Kathryn Bigelow's new project sparks ire in South America | Film | The Guardian .::. Size~: 76.11 KB | May 13 01:06 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Sub-notebooks: " #Ubuntu [GNU/Linux] has become the best desktop experience available" http://ur1.ca/00kne | May 13 01:13 | |
| Techrights | Title: Tyler on Ubuntu: Why Netbooks are bringing the future | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 64.86 KB | May 13 01:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Sub-notebooks With #Linux Costing Just $100 http://ur1.ca/00knk http://ur1.ca/00knl http://ur1.ca/00knm | May 13 01:14 | |
| Techrights | Title: $100 netbook switches to Android - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 53.89 KB | May 13 01:14 |
| Techrights | Title: World's first $99 laptop goes Android, Cherrypal drops Linux in favor of Android for sub-100-dollar laptops .::. Size~: 21.5 KB | May 13 01:15 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware People Move From #Oracle to #ForgeRock http://ur1.ca/00kns http://ur1.ca/00knt | May 13 01:16 | |
| Techrights | Title: Former Sun Execs Land at ForgeRock - Linux and Open Source from eWeek .::. Size~: 115.66 KB | May 13 01:16 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Firefox 4 Plans Publicised http://ur1.ca/00ko6 http://ur1.ca/00ko8 http://ur1.ca/00ko9 http://ur1.ca/00koa | May 13 01:17 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Drupal Founder Debates Free #CMS Business Models http://buytaert.net/joomla-vs-drupal-business-models-and-commercial-ecosystem | May 13 01:19 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FSF / #GNU Put Emphasis on Disabled Users http://ur1.ca/00a2y http://ur1.ca/00i8j | May 13 01:21 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/31983374 "@schestowitz one idea would be to run it under strace, so you could check the shared objects (dyn libs) it loads." | May 13 01:28 |
| Techrights | Title: Hilton Garcia Fernandes (hgfernan) 's status on Wednesday, 12-May-10 21:25:01 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.08 KB | May 13 01:28 |
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| Guest19383 | I saw this channel in the channel list. | May 13 02:10 |
| Guest19383 | I thought that this was an unfair staging to blacken the name of a good, upstanding company. | May 13 02:10 |
| Guest19383 | I like Novell. | May 13 02:10 |
| ender2070 | troll | May 13 02:10 |
| Guest19383 | And I like Netware. | May 13 02:10 |
| Guest19383 | Troll? How? | May 13 02:11 |
| Guest19383 | Fine then: | May 13 02:11 |
| ender2070 | dont give me that horseshit | May 13 02:11 |
| Guest19383 | What do you have against Novell? | May 13 02:11 |
| ender2070 | novell is run by ex-kgb communists | May 13 02:11 |
| ender2070 | later, i have no time to argue with trolls | May 13 02:12 |
| Guest19383 | ...? | May 13 02:12 |
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| Guest19383 | That was quite an unjustified, biased, ignorant statement... | May 13 02:12 |
| Guest19383 | Anyway, I'd just be interested in knowing what's so wrong with Novell. | May 13 02:13 |
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| Guest19383 | Well, could anyone at least explain to me? | May 13 02:18 |
| Guest19383 | I genuinely am slightly interested in knowing what Novell did wrong. | May 13 02:18 |
| Guest19383 | I'm going to report this channel to freenode staff. | May 13 02:20 |
| Guest19383 | I don't understand why a hate channel should exist. | May 13 02:20 |
| Guest19383 | This is libel. | May 13 02:20 |
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| DaemonFC | ugggh | May 13 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 13 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | The first step in teaching history is covering up what really happened. | May 13 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 13 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | the History Channel just gave a 2 minute long Bank of America advertisement masquerading as part of an American history program | May 13 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | "I'm not going back to Indiana to rent until I bust entirely and have to crawl back" | May 13 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | that was a good quote | May 13 02:34 |
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| Agent-Smith | Good evening folks | May 13 02:45 |
| Agent-Smith | Is any1 on line ??? | May 13 02:45 |
| Agent-Smith | Ok. I'll have to leave now | May 13 02:48 |
| Agent-Smith | Good night | May 13 02:48 |
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| DaemonFC | I got stopped by a police officer for trespassing | May 13 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | I was on my way back from getting a coffee at the gas station and was cutting through a field next to a junkyard | May 13 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | I was being sarcastic and told him he cracked the case of the junkyard burglar in his pajamas holding a coffee and a newspaper | May 13 03:28 |
| DaemonFC | and that he'd make Captain for this | May 13 03:29 |
| DaemonFC | I was "warned" and let go :P | May 13 03:29 |
| DaemonFC | I just had an idea. After I get my DSL hooked up tomorrow, I think I can move my TV, satellite box, Blu Ray player and router/modem onto my computer desk, hook up my bluetooth receiver, put my wireless mouse and keyboard on the coffee table, and control everything I have from the couch. | May 13 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | after I move my fridge and microwave onto my side table, there would be no need to move to go anywhere again other than resupply runs | May 13 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 13 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | or the bathroom | May 13 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | obviously I need to use Amazon and subscribe to food and toilet paper, and have a toilet installed into the couch | May 13 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | that will solve most of the remaining problems of needing to do anything | May 13 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | If I can hook up a security camera and remote controlled taser to the front door, I'll be all set | May 13 03:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Which one of the Star Trek movies sucks more than all the rest? In your opinion. | May 13 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | I think for me, and grading on a curve of other movies around the time of production, the worst Star Trek movie ever was Generations | May 13 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | if we're talking worst of all, it's Star Trek: The Motion Picture | May 13 03:42 |
| amarsh04 | I've heard some trek lovers say that "Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World" was one of the best trek movies (given that Star Trek was supposed to be a Captain Horatio Hornblower in space) | May 13 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | The Final Frontier is probably my favorite because they find something calling itself God and rip it a new asshole with a couple of photon torpedoes | May 13 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | That elevates it to number 1 for me by itself | May 13 03:45 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@rayvelline #Monsanto's deadly gift of 475 tons of #gmo seeds to Haitian farmers http://bit.ly/96LcNH // pure #ShockDoctrine tactic #food | May 13 05:01 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Halt the Offensive Against People and End Militarisation of the Forests : Joint Statement of Forest People’s Movements http://bit.ly/cWiqUr | May 13 05:14 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #BP found it more profitable to fake safety tests: http://huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/12/bp-whistleblower-claimed_n_573839.html #alaska #oil | May 13 05:38 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @stephenlemons Real intent of #SB1070 is to gradually evict ALL non whites from #AZ http://bit.ly/bN1OtR // we know how this one ends | May 13 05:50 | |
| Techrights | Title: SB 1070: Is Arizona Willing to Take a $18.6 Billion Travel Industry Hit or Suffer Long-Term Economic Consequences From Its Dalliance with Ethnic Cleansing? - Page 1 - News - Phoenix - Phoenix New Times .::. Size~: 88.27 KB | May 13 05:50 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Running MS Office web-based apps on Linux needs full Office license per user despite desktop apps not running on linux. http://is.gd/c6UJA | May 13 06:22 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@jlist @Titcotu so mad that EVERY bug from #Adobe #DreamWeaver #CS4 is in #CS5 //it's been like this 4 at least 15yrs *koff*monopoly*koff* | May 13 07:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ODF Standard Supported on #Symbian Devices http://maffulli.net/2010/04/27/how-to-read-open-document-format-odf-documents-on-symbian/ | May 13 07:23 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ACTA is "Blackmail", Says Luc Devigne http://ur1.ca/00me0 http://ur1.ca/00me2 http://ur1.ca/00me4 | May 13 07:25 | |
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| MinceR | r4wr | May 13 07:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Review of #PCLinuxOS 2010 http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/spotlight-linux-pclinuxos-2010 | May 13 07:44 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Kuwait 's Ministry of Electricity & Water swaps #Ballnux for #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/00mn3 #novell #microsoft #redhat | May 13 08:28 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Former #OpenSUSE Community Manager ( #Novell Employee) Hopes #Mandriva Doesn’t Find a Buyer http://ur1.ca/00mpz #fud | May 13 08:48 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell hardly has any stories to tell anymore; sale of the company might be imminent http://ur1.ca/00mur I expect another bid from Elliot | May 13 09:13 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/new?replyto=rrix&inreplyto=32027688 "@schestowitz some of what he says is valid. Mandriva the distro will live on... if its community wants it to." | May 13 09:27 |
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| schestowitz | Meh. | May 13 09:27 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.mandriva.com/2010/05/12/about-mandrivas-current-situation/ | May 13 09:28 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Samsung Goes Beyond Corruption and Starts Bullying Critics With Lawsuits http://ur1.ca/00n0l boycott this company | May 13 09:41 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Got some volunteers to help testing #ubuntu ISO images!If you're in the UK and want to help, let me know.If in the UK, talk to your LoCo! | May 13 09:52 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @dalem Urgh... #malware-tastic this morning. My work machine infected. Reminds me why I switched to Mac :o( // hooray #microsoft #windows | May 13 10:14 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft is Against Open Access, Pro #DRM http://ur1.ca/00n5r British Library a hostage of DRM [ via @glynmoody ] #British2Library | May 13 10:15 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @tehranweekly #US, #China begin #humanrights talks // that's a bit like Bernie Madoff and Ken Lay discussing transparent accounting | May 13 10:19 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@schestowitz #Microsoft hates Open Access, loves DRM http://ur1.ca/00n5r British Library #drm hostage /locking up libraries shd be a #crime | May 13 10:22 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Me ( @nsisodiya ) and @hiddenharmony are sitting in studio, #ncert, going to live in 5 minute | May 13 10:43 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Have #Microsoft EULAs Just Been Declared Invalid in the United Kingdom? http://ur1.ca/00ne4 | May 13 10:44 | |
| Techrights | Title: Have Microsoft EULAs Just Been Declared Invalid in the United Kingdom? | Techrights .::. Size~: 88.04 KB | May 13 10:44 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] "Gratis" Microsoft Office Webapps require MS Office License: http://tinyurl.com/2fatxss | May 13 10:57 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #harper is explained by bankrupt moral hierarchy: white man>non-white man>woman>child>animal>environment h/t @eikonos & http://bit.ly/clHO7c | May 13 10:57 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@alykhansatchu 'harsh land where brides were sold into slavery & newborn girls were strangled & left out for the dogs' //plus ça change, eh | May 13 11:00 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #slashdot is jolly late to the home-brand url shortener party. But then they're the types who turn up late to every party | May 13 11:07 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #uk exam board pulls C, C#, #PHP from syllabus - good move! Kill #vb next pls http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/05/13/030218 | May 13 11:08 | |
| Techrights | Title: Slashdot | Exam Board Deletes C and PHP From CompSci A-Levels .::. Size~: 42.62 KB | May 13 11:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] IDG/IDC Produces #Propaganda for #Microsoft as ‘Analyst’, Then Publishes That as ‘Journalist’ http://ur1.ca/00non #bsa #piracy | May 13 11:24 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Pétrus review 'the best @gilescoren's ever written', as speculated by a commenter? You decide: http://bit.ly/aRwoBX #uk #london #food | May 13 11:31 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@pmdave just put arsenic in her Tea | May 13 11:46 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Great show, thanks everybody, c u next week with chemistry tools #foss #gyan #darshan #schoolos | May 13 11:50 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] The #Harper Conservative mind undoubtedly equates random killing of Arabs as 'doing something for women' #fem #afghanistan #cdnpoli #torture | May 13 11:54 | |
| schestowitz | http://280.status.net/notice/87376 "@schestowitz what's your term for that when a lobbyist gets his propaganda published as journalism/news? propaganda laundering? news laundering?" | May 13 12:05 |
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| schestowitz | "did you hear google was in talks with gm? it's a rumor. but wouldnt that be nice :) [..] Government motors. is not General Motors. they paid back the debt :) " http://twitter.com/stevejberry/status/13869005492 | May 13 12:08 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How Yahoo! Reduced Zimbra’s Value From $350 Million to $100 Million and How Office Web Apps Excludes GNU/Linux Users http://ur1.ca/00o07 | May 13 12:25 | |
| Techrights | Title: How Yahoo! Reduced Zimbras Value From $350 Million to $100 Million and How Office Web Apps Excludes GNU/Linux Users | Techrights .::. Size~: 90.59 KB | May 13 12:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] You have probably seen this but I just caught agent smith's link, funny. http://is.gd/c7h8z | May 13 12:53 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: European Commission Betrays Open Standards - http://bit.ly/bl6HJt disgraceful pusillanimity #openstandards #eu | May 13 12:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] I am in the most boring meeting ever.......... | May 13 13:02 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin do this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WlRcXIO5ik | May 13 13:09 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Debian Project Leader is here at #uds and about to give a talk about Collaboration with #Ubuntu. | May 13 13:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] "75% of packages come from debian unmodified, 18% modified, 7% comes direct from upstream" -- from DPL #ubuntu | May 13 13:22 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] "some bug reports fed back to debian,some changes fed back, some early testing in ubuntu, mixed teams - tons!" - DPL #ubuntu | May 13 13:23 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] "trend: Ubuntu devs become debian maintaiers/devs.lessons learned / to learn: Debian welcomes Ubuntu contributions" -- DPL #ubuntu | May 13 13:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] "We (ubuntu and debian) can collaborate more" -- DPL #ubuntu | May 13 13:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] "Ubuntu is bad downstream when: lp bugs not triaged/forwarded,DD dont like to wait for bugs,DD do not care about 'their' ubuntu packages" | May 13 13:26 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] "no special casing: same complaints from others" -- DPL #ubuntu #ubuntu | May 13 13:28 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] "Canonical is bad downstream when: Stuff hard to de-brand, low interest in packaging canonical s/w, unresponsiveness" -- DPL #ubuntu #ubuntu | May 13 13:29 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] "..again - no special casing: same complaints for others" -- DPL #ubuntu #ubuntu | May 13 13:29 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] "It's not your (ubuntu/canonical) fault, sometimes hard to interact with debian community" -- DPL #ubuntu #ubuntu | May 13 13:30 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] "unresponsiveness - abandonded packages, no time (volunteers), 'go to hell' answers, bad heritage, not representative" -- DPL | May 13 13:30 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] "silent majority of debian developers who welcome contributions/collaboration between debian and ubuntu" -- DPL #ubuntu #ubuntu | May 13 13:32 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Open #Standards Out of EU Digital Agenda; #EBoA Does Not Stop Software Patents in #Europe http://ur1.ca/00olz #swpats | May 13 13:35 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @_Goblin That is funny, we never had little insights like this a decade ago. | May 13 13:47 | |
| DaemonFC | AT&T screwed up again | May 13 13:58 |
| DaemonFC | they got my house number as 431 and not 421 | May 13 13:58 |
| oiaohm | Could be worse. | May 13 13:59 |
| oiaohm | Found my self being build for calling across the country for local calls. | May 13 13:59 |
| oiaohm | Because they really screwed stuff up. | May 13 13:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Getting ready for the group photo. Organising 300 geeks to sit still for 30 seconds is harder than you think! #uds #ubuntu | May 13 14:06 | |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: Maybe I should just go wireless or satellite so they can't screw up the installation order | May 13 14:08 |
| DaemonFC | :( | May 13 14:08 |
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| DaemonFC | problem with those are they're expensive and have severe caps | May 13 14:09 |
| cubezzz | what is a "severe cap"? | May 13 14:09 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: The Wildblue satellite plans cap you at about 7.5 GB download 2 GB upload, give you 512kbps down/128 up, and cost $50 a month | May 13 14:11 |
| DaemonFC | not real cost effective, and that's the cheap plan | May 13 14:11 |
| MinceR | and the delay is probably also horrible | May 13 14:13 |
| cubezzz | ok, not sure why you are thinking about satellite internet | May 13 14:13 |
| cubezzz | satellite for TV sure | May 13 14:13 |
| cubezzz | unless you just want a backup internet service | May 13 14:14 |
| cubezzz | and as you say, it's rather pricey | May 13 14:14 |
| cubezzz | wireless, again, probably slower than DSL | May 13 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | satellite is laggier than dial up | May 13 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | but much more throughput | May 13 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | oh crap | May 13 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | apparently I owe them money | May 13 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | this is not going to be a good day | May 13 14:23 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] EmDebian considering joining the Open Invention Network, collective patent pools and shields do not work against trolls: http://ur1.ca/00oy3 | May 13 14:31 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] "technical" can not be defined - perhaps because the very purpose of patent law is to accomodate new technologies: http://ur1.ca/00oye | May 13 14:33 | |
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| cubezzz | I wonder how much a C band dish would cost | May 13 14:36 |
| cubezzz | did you know that originally all C band satellite tv was free? | May 13 14:38 |
| cubezzz | one by one each channel started to encrypt their signals | May 13 14:39 |
| cubezzz | strong encryption was introduced around 1994 | May 13 14:40 |
| cubezzz | you can get a "Big Ugly Dish" or BUD for $200 now, lol | May 13 14:42 |
| cubezzz | they original cost a few grand | May 13 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | I hung up and called back | May 13 14:45 |
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| DaemonFC | hope that if I get a different agent, they won't run into that bill | May 13 14:48 |
| DaemonFC | not all of them do apparently | May 13 14:49 |
| DaemonFC | interesting they didn't notice it when they thought I lived at 431 | May 13 14:50 |
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| DaemonFC | this one hasn't noticed so far | May 13 14:57 |
| DaemonFC | hehehe | May 13 14:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] IPKat: T1173/97, IBM, concerning whether a claim to a program on a computer-readable medium: http://ur1.ca/00p2a | May 13 14:57 | |
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| DaemonFC | hehe | May 13 15:01 |
| DaemonFC | this one just noticed I have lousy credit and asked me to do auto bill pay | May 13 15:01 |
| DaemonFC | didn't seem to notice the $210 I owe them | May 13 15:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Idea for a new law, anyone who makes a new record using a vocoder or includes "baby" in the lyrics should be fined, money for music schools. | May 13 15:04 | |
| MinceR | i oppose that idea | May 13 15:06 |
| MinceR | vocoders are awesome | May 13 15:06 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: I didn't feel like paying the $210, it would be cheaper to just keep my cable | May 13 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 13 15:10 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] NEWS FLASH - "People walk into buildings" - such an unexpected move, we need the news helicopter to capture this world first | May 13 15:22 | |
| DaemonFC | AT&T has bumped my DSL install to May 18th | May 13 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | it was originally yesterday, then today | May 13 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 13 15:26 |
| MinceR | i walked into two buildings today | May 13 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | then an hour into the "fix it" conversation, a rep noticed I owed them that money | May 13 15:26 |
| MinceR | each time through a door | May 13 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | so she transferred me to the collections dept and I hung up | May 13 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | but I think I have it all sorted out now :) | May 13 15:27 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] How to become Linus torvalds : http://ping.fm/s70UF | May 13 15:27 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Can't believe that the wikipedia entry for altered state of consciousness is so small considering the effort people take trying to get there | May 13 15:52 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Now on train home. Hopefully have the rest of the afternoon to myself. | May 13 16:19 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] http://twitgoo.com/vhxg8 | May 13 16:24 | |
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| schestowitz | > A-level computer science students will no longer be taught C, C#, or | May 13 16:29 |
| schestowitz | > PHP from next year following a decision to withdraw the languages by | May 13 16:29 |
| schestowitz | > the largest UK exam board .. | May 13 16:29 |
| schestowitz | > | May 13 16:29 |
| schestowitz | > COMP1 syllabus have been asked to use one of its other approved | May 13 16:29 |
| schestowitz | > languages — Java, Pascal/Delphi, Python 2.6, Python 3.1, Visual Basic | May 13 16:29 |
| schestowitz | > 6, and VB.Net 2008. | May 13 16:29 |
| schestowitz | > | May 13 16:29 |
| schestowitz | > http://developers.slashdot.org/story/10/05/13/030218/Exam-Board-Deletes-C-and-PHP-From-CompSci-A-Levels?art_pos=3 | May 13 16:29 |
| schestowitz | > | May 13 16:29 |
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| schestowitz | Exam Board Deletes C and PHP From CompSci A-Levels | May 13 16:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Thanks to all those who suggested that I pace down my dents. I'll see if I can find a solution. | May 13 16:48 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.dissociatedpress.net/2010/05/12/further-thoughts-on-mandriva/ | May 13 16:50 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] European Parliament rejects the Software Patent Directive (6 July 2005) http://ur1.ca/00pve | May 13 17:02 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] European Parliament rejects the Software Patent Directive (6 July 2005) (OR) http://ur1.ca/00pve | May 13 17:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] 13-may-2010, I have started dedicated Live telecast show for "FOSS + education" in Indian Cinema. Writing a new history of FOSS+India #foss | May 13 17:15 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] European Parliament rejects the Software Patent Directive (6 July 2005) (EN) http://ur1.ca/00pyw | May 13 17:15 | |
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| schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | May 13 17:16 |
| schestowitz | > | May 13 17:16 |
| schestowitz | > M$ proxy war against FOSS has ended up hurting US defense readiness and | May 13 17:16 |
| schestowitz | > by extension NATO: | May 13 17:16 |
| schestowitz | > | May 13 17:16 |
| schestowitz | > http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/05/how-removing-ps3-linux-hurts-the-air-force.ars | May 13 17:16 |
| schestowitz | > | May 13 17:16 |
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| schestowitz | > These lawsuits are necessary corrective action until the US can maneuver | May 13 17:16 |
| schestowitz | > into more proactive measures against M$ | May 13 17:16 |
| schestowitz | > http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6261838.html | May 13 17:16 |
| schestowitz | > | May 13 17:17 |
| Techrights | Title: Sony hit with two more Linux-lockout lawsuits - News at GameSpot .::. Size~: 175.76 KB | May 13 17:17 |
| schestowitz | > It's not just M$ vs ( Apple || Linux). It really is M$ vs Everybody. | May 13 17:17 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Litigation costs for publicly traded companies have consistently outweighed the profits that companies got from patents http://ur1.ca/00q1z | May 13 17:28 | |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: nice video, any ogg versions? | May 13 17:34 |
| schestowitz | Theora | May 13 17:34 |
| zoobab | please cut the Poettering intervention | May 13 17:35 |
| zoobab | in EN | May 13 17:35 |
| schestowitz | clip it? | May 13 17:35 |
| schestowitz | I can host oggs if you want | May 13 17:35 |
| zoobab | me too | May 13 17:36 |
| zoobab | clip it | May 13 17:36 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @zoobab European Parliament rejects the Software Patent Directive (6 July 2005) (EN) http://ur1.ca/00pyw > need ogg version | May 13 17:36 | |
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| zoobab | YT2OGG | May 13 17:36 |
| schestowitz | http://www.androidguys.com/2010/05/12/htc-returns-fire-sues-apple-patent-infringement/ | May 13 17:36 |
| zoobab | YT2OGV | May 13 17:36 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: I just use ffmpeg | May 13 17:37 |
| schestowitz | I have dl-youtuve | May 13 17:37 |
| zoobab | clive | May 13 17:37 |
| schestowitz | I'll post these tomorrow | May 13 17:37 |
| zoobab | clive + ffmpeg2theora | May 13 17:37 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: yeah, I heard about it | May 13 17:37 |
| zoobab | IT IS IMPORTANT TO CLIP THE POETERING | May 13 17:37 |
| schestowitz | We need to make a statement for theora | May 13 17:38 |
| schestowitz | To make it harder to shoot it down | May 13 17:38 |
| schestowitz | If many FF users rely on it, the cartel can't attack them without backlash | May 13 17:38 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: I don't know how to clip inkdenlive. I wasted an hour trying | May 13 17:38 |
| zoobab | host FF in Algeria | May 13 17:38 |
| schestowitz | :-) | May 13 17:38 |
| zoobab | we need a court decision removing FF in Europe | May 13 17:39 |
| zoobab | :-) | May 13 17:39 |
| zoobab | so that the blood pressure raise | May 13 17:39 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/10113339.stm "What we're really seeing is the effect of lenders slowing down the initial notices of default while they are processing what's already in the pipeline," | May 13 17:43 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | it doesn't mean there are less homes to foreclose on, just that the banks have too many now in their hands to sell at reasonable prices, so they let those behind on their mortages stay longer before foreclosing. | May 13 17:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | a glut of foreclosured homes to sell, means lower home prices | May 13 17:45 |
| schestowitz | Hi | May 13 17:45 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Morning Roy | May 13 17:47 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: they won't do that | May 13 17:47 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Well, its still morning here, I should say | May 13 17:47 |
| schestowitz | Cause of backlash | May 13 17:47 |
| schestowitz | See what happened to the Vole when it threatened Linux | May 13 17:47 |
| schestowitz | If there were just 12 Linux users, there would be no outcry | May 13 17:47 |
| schestowitz | So we need to make more theora depedants [sic] | May 13 17:47 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: the MSBBC must be lying | May 13 17:48 |
| schestowitz | We all know the "recession is over" :-) | May 13 17:48 |
| schestowitz | I mean, I heard it on the radio | May 13 17:48 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | well, the BBC trys to paint it that way, but that one line in their article sorting of made the lie known | May 13 17:49 |
| schestowitz | Subheadine: | May 13 17:50 |
| schestowitz | "'Slowing down'" | May 13 17:50 |
| schestowitz | I know that trick | May 13 17:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The banks here are simply trying to extend the times the foreclosures happen, to make it look like there is not another housing bubble. | May 13 17:50 |
| schestowitz | Like counting layoffs as a function as addition, not absolute value | May 13 17:50 |
| schestowitz | And then 'expiring' those laid off a while back to redefine "unemployment" | May 13 17:50 |
| schestowitz | I heard that Poland is hardly affected by the "crunch" | May 13 17:51 |
| schestowitz | "Oops. It's a crunch... don't worry! We'll get you a new one :-) " | May 13 17:51 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The truth is more people are behind on their mortages now(maybe even 4x0than when the gov had to bail out the banks | May 13 17:51 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | 4 times | May 13 17:51 |
| schestowitz | What does Liz Warren say? | May 13 17:51 |
| schestowitz | She did many studies on that | May 13 17:51 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | also Spain has given into pressure and is cutting spending, so the recession will deepen there | May 13 17:53 |
| schestowitz | http://www.prwatch.org/node/9059 | May 13 17:54 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | all the govs will now be forced into the same molds as Spain, to cut spending or have their credit ratings reduced | May 13 17:54 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: do you read the links I post under "Finance"? | May 13 17:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes | May 13 17:54 |
| schestowitz | Cool | May 13 17:54 |
| schestowitz | I sometimes wonder about the audience reaction to them | May 13 17:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I read almost everything here | May 13 17:54 |
| schestowitz | I also spend time laying them out in the suitable order | May 13 17:55 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I saw the Cherrypal article | May 13 17:55 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @ryanprior #HumbleIndyBundle games are now Free Software! If you held back and want FOSS games, click here: http://wolfire.com/humble | May 13 17:55 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.sutor.com/c/2010/05/12-days-with-an-ipad/ | May 13 17:57 |
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| schestowitz | Blech | May 13 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Sutor | May 13 17:57 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Ebay now has $100 Android tablets here in the USA, but there only have 2 hour battery life. Still they are selling, and the 7" arm netbooks with CE on them (that I posted so much before) are now not selling much. | May 13 17:57 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I think most people who are tech savvy buy the Android ARM devices and know that CE suxs | May 13 17:58 |
| schestowitz | IS CE still actively developed? | May 13 17:59 |
| schestowitz | They have just Seven-washed its sibling | May 13 17:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | all these Arm Tablets with Android are selling on Ebay, unless the seller has bad comments | May 13 17:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | $100 ones that is | May 13 18:00 |
| schestowitz | I haven't used my Ebay account in 5 years | May 13 18:00 |
| schestowitz | There are also reasons I have for avoiding ebay and boycotting them | May 13 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Long list | May 13 18:00 |
| schestowitz | They lobbied for ACTA | May 13 18:00 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | BTW, they have an USB port in then, so wondering if its possible to plug in a hub and usb mouse and keyboard | May 13 18:00 |
| schestowitz | They have that Goldman Sachs floozy | May 13 18:01 |
| schestowitz | She wants to be your governor now | May 13 18:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Roy, I only mention Ebay, as its the one place here in the USA that one can find computers without the MS tax on it. | May 13 18:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ok, Dell, 76, but Ebay is just more | May 13 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Dell has tax | May 13 18:02 |
| schestowitz | MPEG tax | May 13 18:02 |
| schestowitz | And Microsoft too, although I'm not sure | May 13 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Buying just hardware has been made by Microsoft and Apple be seen like buying liquid arsenic 'for your garden' | May 13 18:03 |
| schestowitz | People would look with suspicion at those who avoid 'appliance for consumers' thing... | May 13 18:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I see Google with Android/Chrome able to do something that Linux has not been able to do as of yet. That is to get preinstalled on computers and start the big decline of M$ in a major way | May 13 18:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I refuse to buy hardware made by MS. Further, although at one time I would have consider buying MAC used computers, now I will not | May 13 18:05 |
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| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: but that's not good news about Android | May 13 18:06 |
| schestowitz | Android is not Free software | May 13 18:06 |
| schestowitz | It hardly qualifies even as "open" | May 13 18:06 |
| schestowitz | <Chips_B_Malroy> I refuse to buy hardware made by MS. | May 13 18:06 |
| schestowitz | They make hardware???? | May 13 18:06 |
| schestowitz | BTW, ~8 more from Foxconn have just committed suicide | May 13 18:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | they have others make it for them and MS puts its labels on it. Xbox360's, mice, keyboards, zune, kin, etc | May 13 18:07 |
| schestowitz | Alas, the US starts to resemble Beijing with fewer people in their own house and and a car... more riding bikes now | May 13 18:07 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: yes | May 13 18:07 |
| schestowitz | Does Intel have many fabs in the US? | May 13 18:07 |
| schestowitz | I don't think anything is manufactured in the US anymore... not much of significance | May 13 18:08 |
| schestowitz | The oligarchs who run the Asian operations though work/live in US skyscrapers though | May 13 18:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | mostly just research facilities anymore is what companies do. Like IBM | May 13 18:08 |
| schestowitz | Apple's junk is made in the same factories as Microsoft's junk and the employees paid the same (dirt) | May 13 18:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | as far as I know IBM just designed the hardware here, but builds everything in asia | May 13 18:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | same with everyone else, I would guess | May 13 18:09 |
| schestowitz | "You made iPod 15 hours per day, we -- in return -- give you the privilege to have a bad to sleep at night" | May 13 18:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | software is being written more and more overseas | May 13 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Not much better than concentration camps, but they do get food and don't get gassed | May 13 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Dehumanisation in Asia is too easy to ignore where I live | May 13 18:10 |
| schestowitz | We rarely see images lines the Microsoft ones which got leaked | May 13 18:10 |
| schestowitz | "Out of sight, out of mind," as the saying goes | May 13 18:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Even Apple, I believe has others make it computers for them | May 13 18:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ah but, you just said that, didn't you | May 13 18:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | If MS even does lose massive market share, which is the trend IMO, with Android/Chrome coming out on ARM, expect when it gets someday to less than 50% of the markets for MS to make (like apple, not really make but contract to china) its own line of computers | May 13 18:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MS cannot do this now, with 88% appox of the desktop market share, without antitrust kicking in | May 13 18:19 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36930935/ns/local_news-pittsburgh_pa/ | May 13 18:19 |
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| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: to be fair, Android phones too are made there | May 13 18:21 |
| schestowitz | We have some blood in our hands | May 13 18:21 |
| schestowitz | I guess more reuse if one answer | May 13 18:21 |
| schestowitz | Another is levelling wages and make workers in factories properly distributed | May 13 18:22 |
| schestowitz | If Asia stops producing, they'll get it cheaply from African labour | May 13 18:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Roy, everything is made in | May 13 18:23 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Asia now, as we cannot live on 25 cents an hour here | May 13 18:23 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | American and European workers cannot compete (live on that). | May 13 18:24 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/may2010/tc20100512_956709.htm | May 13 18:28 |
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| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: I know, that's why the silent suppression continues with IP and stuff... | May 13 18:28 |
| schestowitz | But the Chinese are not dumb at all | May 13 18:28 |
| schestowitz | They do have a high regard for themselves and they learn the trade of the West, then bring the knowledge back home | May 13 18:29 |
| ender2070 | hey schestowitz, dont know if you saw this but i was watching my trackbacks | May 13 18:29 |
| ender2070 | http://twitter.com/jstedfast/status/13853932726 | May 13 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Korea and Taiwan are escaping the oppression | May 13 18:29 |
| schestowitz | In Seoul you have technology miles ahead of the West | May 13 18:29 |
| schestowitz | They also stablish their own companies | May 13 18:29 |
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| ender2070 | http://twitter.com/jstedfast/status/13852903410 | May 13 18:29 |
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| schestowitz | ender2070: "This person has protected their tweets." | May 13 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Probably like Microsoft MVPicaza used to do... | May 13 18:30 |
| schestowitz | http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=en-GB&q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fjstedfast%2Fstatus%2F13852903410&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8 | May 13 18:30 |
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| schestowitz | ender2070: paste what they say | May 13 18:30 |
| ender2070 | @jonobacon you might be interested in this: http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=18#comments - confirms that Roy was behind the reddit spammer afterall | May 13 18:31 |
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| ender2070 | the first one | May 13 18:31 |
| schestowitz | Bollox | May 13 18:31 |
| schestowitz | Lies again | May 13 18:31 |
| ender2070 | @verofakto this might be a good addition to your site on AstralKnight: http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=18#comments | May 13 18:31 |
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| ender2070 | yeah AstralKnight said a bunch of bs | May 13 18:32 |
| schestowitz | Don't let lies get in the way of Microsoft boosters | May 13 18:32 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: same reason I don't publicly slam them much | May 13 18:32 |
| schestowitz | They would start attacking /me/ | May 13 18:33 |
| ender2070 | yeah lol | May 13 18:33 |
| ender2070 | just thought i'd show you that | May 13 18:33 |
| ender2070 | it was on my trackbacks | May 13 18:33 |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13577_3-20004853-36.html | May 13 18:38 |
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| schestowitz | They got close to Microsoft | May 13 18:38 |
| schestowitz | I saw it years ago | May 13 18:38 |
| schestowitz | But many people did | May 13 18:38 |
| schestowitz | Novell is the same | May 13 18:39 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/12/germany_top_level_domain_glitch/ | May 13 18:39 |
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| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20004855-245.html | May 13 18:42 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Looks like Ubuntu will switch from F-Spot to Shotwell as the default photo manager on the CD in 10.10. | May 13 18:59 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] ♺ @tristan2468: ♺ @snarf: See Ya F-Spot! Shotwell (Mono-free) to be default Image App in #Ubuntu 10.10 http://is.gd/c7GDf | May 13 19:01 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/31959516#notice-32078740 "Note, the games will be "free as in 'free speech', not as in 'free beer'": see each license for the full, [...] i've a feeling they don't grasp what "free as in free speech" means- still, this is cool progress" | May 13 19:01 |
| schestowitz | Ah | May 13 19:01 |
| schestowitz | Fakers then | May 13 19:01 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @ml2mst ♺ @tristan2468: ♺ @snarf: See Ya F-Spot! Shotwell ( #Mono -free) to be default Image App in #Ubuntu 10.10 http://is.gd/c7GDf | May 13 19:04 | |
| Techrights | Title: See Ya F-Spot! Shotwell to be default Image App in Ubuntu 10.10 | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 59.43 KB | May 13 19:04 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/12/the-real-misery-index-apr_n_572076.html | May 13 19:07 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] @schestowitz We still use Tomboy - so not completely devoid of mono :) | May 13 19:09 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @FOSSpatents Smartphone #patent wars: #Apple vs. #Google vs. #Nokia vs. #HTC - slashdot discussion http://bit.ly/ahvrSC #swpat | May 13 19:21 | |
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| ender2070 | lol you know what | May 13 19:23 |
| ender2070 | SAVE THE PLANET! EAT A STEAK! | May 13 19:23 |
| ender2070 | Cows are just using up air! | May 13 19:23 |
| ender2070 | Eating plants causes more co2 to develop! | May 13 19:24 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itworld.com/security/107345/ignore-nonsense-anti-virus-software-good-ever | May 13 19:25 |
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| schestowitz | ender2070: no, population deflation | May 13 19:25 |
| MinceR | cows are also producing methane | May 13 19:25 |
| schestowitz | Responsible parenting and contraception | May 13 19:26 |
| ender2070 | Mincer- more reason for us to kill them, and eating them so they dont go to waste | May 13 19:26 |
| ender2070 | ;) | May 13 19:26 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: "methane?? I'll have 3!" | May 13 19:26 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: what about milk? | May 13 19:26 |
| ender2070 | milk causes diabetes for some people, so thats good too | May 13 19:27 |
| schestowitz | http://opensource.com/life/10/5/facebook-privacy-exodus-and-diaspora | May 13 19:27 |
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| ender2070 | less people around = good for the environment | May 13 19:27 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: some are lactose intolerant | May 13 19:27 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: true | May 13 19:27 |
| schestowitz | But people are selfish | May 13 19:27 |
| schestowitz | They operate based on the simple rule that genes that reproduce more, well... reproduce more | May 13 19:28 |
| ender2070 | yes, including those who want to 'save the planet' | May 13 19:28 |
| schestowitz | So those of us who do the right thing for the planet won't matter in a generation or two :-) | May 13 19:28 |
| schestowitz | But I too will probably have kids when I'm older | May 13 19:28 |
| ender2070 | they just want to save a habitat for themselves | May 13 19:28 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: no, the planet will be fine | May 13 19:28 |
| schestowitz | What they means to say is "save human civilisation" | May 13 19:29 |
| ender2070 | the planet would heal itself if we no longer lived | May 13 19:29 |
| ender2070 | yeah | May 13 19:29 |
| schestowitz | And we need many other species for our amusement, cuisine, and zoos | May 13 19:29 |
| ender2070 | species go extinct all the time without our intervention | May 13 19:29 |
| ender2070 | in fact some are going extinct despite our intervention | May 13 19:30 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5wP6m0d0xc | May 13 19:30 |
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| schestowitz | Good video in the sense that it's interestinhg | May 13 19:30 |
| ender2070 | yeah | May 13 19:30 |
| schestowitz | Seen it? | May 13 19:30 |
| ender2070 | I think Hawking is right | May 13 19:30 |
| ender2070 | we need to get off the earth and spread | May 13 19:30 |
| schestowitz | Watch this video | May 13 19:30 |
| ender2070 | oh i've seen that one before | May 13 19:31 |
| schestowitz | http://www.citizen.org/boycott-bp | May 13 19:31 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36783.html | May 13 19:32 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/05/03/back_to_petroleum | May 13 19:32 |
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| schestowitz | Look at their new logo | May 13 19:32 |
| schestowitz | SO GREEN! :-D | May 13 19:32 |
| schestowitz | Green-washing | May 13 19:32 |
| schestowitz | Oil is green | May 13 19:33 |
| schestowitz | Coal is green | May 13 19:33 |
| schestowitz | Carbon is life | May 13 19:33 |
| schestowitz | Sewer has purpose-washing PR | May 13 19:33 |
| schestowitz | *purple | May 13 19:33 |
| schestowitz | Oops | May 13 19:33 |
| schestowitz | I mean, pink | May 13 19:33 |
| ender2070 | the whole thing though is that at the end of all the environmentalism, nothing will be done still | May 13 19:33 |
| ender2070 | corporations will be polluting just the same as before | May 13 19:33 |
| ender2070 | except on our bills there will be carbon taxes | May 13 19:34 |
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| ender2070 | and carbon taxes/credits don't impact the environment | May 13 19:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/may/09/oil-spill-ecological-review-environment | May 13 19:34 |
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| ender2070 | every plan that has to do with them just ends up shifting money around | May 13 19:34 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: "I don't have cash ATM, put that on my carbon credit :-)" | May 13 19:35 |
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| ender2070 | its not even like that lol | May 13 19:35 |
| ender2070 | it'll just be like GST or PST when you go buy something | May 13 19:35 |
| schestowitz | Like people selling blood or USSR bumsh selling their cash to oligrachs | May 13 19:35 |
| schestowitz | *garchs | May 13 19:35 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ainfos.ca/en/ainfos23911.html | May 13 19:36 |
| ender2070 | it'll be like the value added tax | May 13 19:36 |
| ender2070 | WWF got a chunk of rainforest for peanuts, and they made millions selling carbon credits to india based on the rainforests value | May 13 19:36 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/10/kosovo-albanian-mass-grave-serbia | May 13 19:37 |
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| ender2070 | does india now magically pollute less? | May 13 19:37 |
| ender2070 | no | May 13 19:37 |
| ender2070 | they're 'offset' for the pollution, yes | May 13 19:37 |
| ender2070 | offset doesn't remove pollution, its just buying your way out of it | May 13 19:38 |
| ender2070 | the royal family tried saying they were green too | May 13 19:38 |
| ender2070 | they just offset it with cash | May 13 19:38 |
| ender2070 | i'd like to see them 'really' go green | May 13 19:38 |
| ender2070 | replace all their luxury vehicles with electric or hybrid-electric cars | May 13 19:39 |
| ender2070 | i have to go for now, no internet at home and im trying to fix that | May 13 19:40 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/11/afghanistan-hamid-karzai-hillary-clinton | May 13 19:40 |
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| sebsebseb | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/chromium-to-be-default-browser-in.html | May 13 20:26 |
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| sebsebseb | untill at least alpha 3 | May 13 20:27 |
| cubezzz | I'm trying to remember when firmware became upgradable | May 13 20:29 |
| cubezzz | Amiga 1200 had 2 roms for example | May 13 20:29 |
| cubezzz | you had to remove the chips and put newer ones in to upgrade | May 13 20:29 |
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| sebsebseb | oiaohm: Mandriva might die soon | May 13 20:33 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: Is this really a good thing? | May 13 20:33 |
| _goblin | hi all | May 13 20:33 |
| sebsebseb | I remember how you told me distro deaths are good | May 13 20:33 |
| sebsebseb | yeah hi _goblin | May 13 20:34 |
| cubezzz | hmmm, I'm not sure it's always good | May 13 20:34 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: Long term distrobution life or death does not matter. | May 13 20:38 |
| oiaohm | Really is if the good ideas live on or not. That is the important thing. | May 13 20:39 |
| cubezzz | nothing really dies as long as you have the source code :) | May 13 20:39 |
| cubezzz | I could bring Yggdrasil back | May 13 20:39 |
| oiaohm | Distrobutions are just like forks of projects dieing. | May 13 20:39 |
| oiaohm | Lot of cases its harmless. | May 13 20:40 |
| oiaohm | To the long term progress of Linux. | May 13 20:40 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: good idea's will live on in PC Linux OS for example, which already has the control centre for example | May 13 20:40 |
| oiaohm | Excactly sebsebseb | May 13 20:43 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: PC Linux OS is a fork of Mandriva though | May 13 20:44 |
| oiaohm | Now the good that can come out of the death of Mandriva is people who like the central control centre idea can end up in other distributions without it. | May 13 20:44 |
| sebsebseb | with it you mean? | May 13 20:44 |
| oiaohm | Really the edge development distributions does is bad. | May 13 20:44 |
| sebsebseb | what's that? | May 13 20:44 |
| oiaohm | Why does not gnome or kde provide a fully working system management app. | May 13 20:44 |
| oiaohm | So Linux has common system configurations across distributions. | May 13 20:45 |
| sebsebseb | well there's Gnome Control Centre for example | May 13 20:45 |
| sebsebseb | and pretty basic | May 13 20:45 |
| sebsebseb | and I think KDE has something as well | May 13 20:45 |
| oiaohm | Both very basic. | May 13 20:45 |
| sebsebseb | however yes nothing proper like what Mandriva and PC Linux OS have | May 13 20:45 |
| oiaohm | Both with very little distrobution support. | May 13 20:46 |
| oiaohm | Death of Mandriva might force people to work on the core projects. | May 13 20:46 |
| oiaohm | So I see nothing bad. | May 13 20:46 |
| oiaohm | Now death of Fedora that would be something to worry about. | May 13 20:46 |
| oiaohm | More core work that is common to all distributions a distribution does the more important it is to the long term life of Linux. | May 13 20:47 |
| sebsebseb | well according to guy that knows a lot about Mandriva, also from Australlia | May 13 20:47 |
| sebsebseb | quite a lot of the Mandriva developers | May 13 20:47 |
| sebsebseb | are doing both at the moment | May 13 20:47 |
| sebsebseb | Mandriva and PC Linux OS | May 13 20:47 |
| sebsebseb | and they have seen the death of Mandriva coming for like two years already | May 13 20:48 |
| *WireWulf is now known as WireWulf-away | May 13 20:48 | |
| oiaohm | Any distribution not putting major work back into the core projects this include Ubuntu if it disappears at worse will only cause temp distrubtion at best speed Linux over all development. | May 13 20:48 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu well | May 13 20:48 |
| sebsebseb | is becoming much more it's own thing now | May 13 20:49 |
| sebsebseb | Unity on the net book for example well for 10.10 | May 13 20:49 |
| oiaohm | So it will die. | May 13 20:49 |
| sebsebseb | the starting to put everything in a menu on the panel | May 13 20:49 |
| oiaohm | All the distributions that have lasted long term have worked with the upstream effective. | May 13 20:49 |
| sebsebseb | trying to replace notifcation area thing | May 13 20:49 |
| oiaohm | If you don't the manataining of stuff becomes a killer. | May 13 20:50 |
| oiaohm | Ubuntu is heading down the path of doom. | May 13 20:50 |
| sebsebseb | they seem to work ok with upstream as well, from the Open Week talks, and some of the stuff I have heard online from UDS | May 13 20:50 |
| oiaohm | Not really sebsebseb | May 13 20:50 |
| sebsebseb | Open Week talks, I mean IRC sessions | May 13 20:50 |
| oiaohm | Compare Fedora and Ubuntu upstream work. | May 13 20:50 |
| sebsebseb | they are doing a lot of changes to Gnome now though | May 13 20:50 |
| sebsebseb | this is only the start | May 13 20:50 |
| oiaohm | Stuff supping in Fedora is basically a copy of what is upstream. | May 13 20:51 |
| sebsebseb | 10.10 won't use Gnome Shell by default | May 13 20:51 |
| sebsebseb | maybe not 11.04 either | May 13 20:51 |
| sebsebseb | I don't think they will just get rid of their changes by default, since Gnome Shell | May 13 20:51 |
| oiaohm | What is in Ubuntu is highly customises. | May 13 20:51 |
| Omar87 | Hi all. | May 13 20:51 |
| oiaohm | So called for the good of users sebsebseb | May 13 20:51 |
| oiaohm | But is not for the good of users more you customise the more bugs you have the worse your users are off. | May 13 20:51 |
| oiaohm | Hi Omar87 | May 13 20:52 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, How do you know that Windows is failing? When an all-time MS hypocrite admits a bad thing about it. Check this out: http://is.gd/c7OL4 | May 13 20:53 |
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| Omar87 | oiaohm, hey! | May 13 20:53 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: Some of the Canonical changes may end up in upstream Gnome though eventually, according to the actsual article | May 13 20:55 |
| sebsebseb | http://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/2010051203235INGN | May 13 20:55 |
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| oiaohm | They have no option. sebsebseb | May 13 20:56 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: oh? | May 13 20:56 |
| oiaohm | If they don't upstream they will die under maintainership load. | May 13 20:56 |
| sebsebseb | I mean | May 13 20:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] So how do you know that Windows is getting crappier? When an all-time MS hypocrite admits a bad thing about it: http://is.gd/c7OL4 #Gralla | May 13 20:56 | |
| sebsebseb | upstream may except | May 13 20:56 |
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| sebsebseb | some of the features eventaully | May 13 20:56 |
| sebsebseb | at the moment they are refusing stuff | May 13 20:56 |
| oiaohm | Lot of stuff is being redone by gnome differnet to incompadible with what Ubuntu has done. | May 13 20:57 |
| oiaohm | So users are going to hit bugs. | May 13 20:57 |
| *schestowitz shudders having just loaded a grrrrrrrrrrrrralla page | May 13 20:57 | |
| sebsebseb | yes | May 13 20:57 |
| sebsebseb | exactly | May 13 20:57 |
| oiaohm | Sorry users this is the result of using a distribution that does not upstream effectively. | May 13 20:57 |
| sebsebseb | quite a lot of these Canonical changes, aren't compatible with Gnome at the moment | May 13 20:58 |
| sebsebseb | upstream Gnome | May 13 20:58 |
| oiaohm | Open Source allows you todo what ever you like. | May 13 20:58 |
| oiaohm | But will kick you in the nuts if you don't upstream. | May 13 20:58 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, I know how you're feeling, just read on and see what he has to say. You'll laugh at it, trust me. :-) | May 13 20:58 |
| oiaohm | Google tried not upstreaming they are learning the leason now. | May 13 20:58 |
| oiaohm | Its the biggest problem lots of distributions have they don't get the importance of upstream work. | May 13 20:59 |
| oiaohm | Since in lots of there eyes it might under mine their uniqueness. | May 13 20:59 |
| oiaohm | uniqueness=Pain. | May 13 20:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Android – My “must have” applications http://tinyurl.com/3xa28af #linux #android #free #windows #microsoft #htc #mobile #winmob | May 13 21:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] "The mind is like a parachute. It doesn’t work unless it’s open."-Something those who are locked in with #Microsoft products should consider | May 13 21:04 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Nice analogy there! :) RT @_Goblin: "The mind is like a parachute, it doesn't work unless it's open." | May 13 21:08 | |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz We still use Tomboy - so not completely devoid of mono :)" http://twitter.com/popey/statuses/13926334554 | May 13 21:11 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @popey the CTO of Canonical said that #Mono has a degree of threat, so I hope you guys will embrace gnote like #Fedora | May 13 21:13 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Listening to: "The Dogs of Lust" by "The The" - Great trax from the past! | May 13 21:13 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Listening to: "The Dogs of Lust" by "The The" - Great trax from the past! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSNSOhG0AIU | May 13 21:14 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @_goblin "The mind is like a parachute. It doesn’t work unless it’s open." | May 13 21:14 | |
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| schestowitz | "Or view it using HTML5 mode (albeit with x264-encoded H.264) in Chromium." http://twitter.com/pranesh_prakash/statuses/13922301643 | May 13 21:14 |
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| schestowitz | I hate Chromium as an idea | May 13 21:14 |
| schestowitz | Mozilla's CEO has just left | May 13 21:14 |
| schestowitz | Most people just go Gaga over googoo (Google) | May 13 21:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] @schestowitz Who knows, maybe in the future we will. For now, we haven't. | May 13 21:15 | |
| schestowitz | I say, to hell with Googoo | May 13 21:15 |
| _goblin | I love the Google | May 13 21:16 |
| _goblin | ;) | May 13 21:16 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Phenomena (1991) - Enigma [ amiga demo ] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_Cf2P_TFJk #amiga #demoscene #68k #asm #scene | May 13 21:16 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @popey it would free up _loads_ of disk space (tomboy Mono deps.) | May 13 21:17 | |
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| schestowitz | _goblin: beware of loving companies or countries | May 13 21:19 |
| schestowitz | companies or countries are not people, they have no feelings and never love back | May 13 21:19 |
| schestowitz | So unless you personally know someone there, there's no notion of "love", or "betrayal", or "faithfulness" | May 13 21:20 |
| schestowitz | Judge by behaviour/policies, not brands | May 13 21:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] lol "mono - an acute disease characterized by fever and swollen lymph nodes " http://www.thefreedictionary.com/mono - sounds about right. | May 13 21:20 | |
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| _goblin | I love "THE" Google....not love Google.....theres a difference. | May 13 21:20 |
| sebsebseb | not finnished chatting here | May 13 21:21 |
| _goblin | (I take it you never seen Jay and Silent Bob" | May 13 21:21 |
| sebsebseb | I will again in a bit | May 13 21:21 |
| sebsebseb | going to try and educate someone a bit, when it comes to browsers :) | May 13 21:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] @schestowitz Sure. I would be sad to see it go. Especially as it's a core feature of U1, so has had lots of recent love. | May 13 21:21 | |
| schestowitz | _goblin: http://identi.ca/conversation/31978430#notice-32097851 | May 13 21:21 |
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| schestowitz | "@schestowitz a cultural work is like a parachute too, if it isn't open it might land us in a really unpleasant situation" | May 13 21:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @popey gnote is the same, just faster and lighter | May 13 21:22 | |
| sebsebseb | oh I can do both actsaully | May 13 21:22 |
| sebsebseb | got some more links to share | May 13 21:22 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] "Nothing in education is so astonishing as the amount of ignorance it accumulates in the form of facts." - Henry Brooks Adams | May 13 21:23 | |
| schestowitz | _goblin: you can help out convincing pope | May 13 21:24 |
| schestowitz | *popey | May 13 21:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @popey cp -r ~/.tomboy ~/.gnote is how simple it is to migrate users | May 13 21:24 | |
| _goblin | schestowitz: I don't seek to convince, I seek to prove! ;) | May 13 21:24 |
| schestowitz | Convince by proof | May 13 21:24 |
| _goblin | Prove by convince? | May 13 21:25 |
| schestowitz | No | May 13 21:25 |
| sebsebseb | F-Spot is going bye bye in 10.10 | May 13 21:25 |
| schestowitz | It does. Not. Comput. | May 13 21:25 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: yes, good news | May 13 21:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] @schestowitz Does gnote have Ubuntu One sync? Is Gnote cross platform? If not, I'm not interested. | May 13 21:25 | |
| sebsebseb | to be replaced with Shotwell | May 13 21:25 |
| ThistleWind | lol, does popey use anything other than ubuntu? | May 13 21:26 |
| sebsebseb | is Shotwell a Mono app or not? | May 13 21:26 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWind: he's one of their key people, so he's UBuntu onlu | May 13 21:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @popey yes, it's cross platform and the data format is same as gnote (so Ubuntu One is not an issue) | May 13 21:27 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @popey Tomboy can now be swapped and then mono needn't go on the CD (lots of tree space) | May 13 21:27 | |
| schestowitz | He has access to Shuttleworth and folks | May 13 21:27 |
| ThistleWind | yeah I know him from the ubuntu-uk podcast | May 13 21:27 |
| ThistleWind | they do have a whiff of the apple "look down your nose ate anything nonbuntu" at times | May 13 21:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Another classic "Silents Global Trash Demo" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DS3agjjkzE #amiga | May 13 21:28 | |
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| schestowitz | Linus as communism :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtAlN4MaBr8 | May 13 21:29 |
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| ThistleWind | I note they're getting a lot of slack for blindly agreeing with whatever canonical do, to the point where they feel the need to point out the odd time they slightly disagree, like a toddler showing you a potty with a steaming turd in it sayin "look what I did" | May 13 21:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] @schestowitz Just because the file format is the same doesnt mean U1 note sync works. | May 13 21:30 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.osor.eu/news/fi-over-a-hundred-schools-using-open-source | May 13 21:30 |
| schestowitz | \o/ | May 13 21:30 |
| ThistleWind | it does make me laugh that "is it cross platform" is used as an excuse | May 13 21:30 |
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| ThistleWind | it's like a mac fan not accepting a mac app if it's not cross platform, since they wont use anything else | May 13 21:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @popey the underlying code+data are the same, it's rebranded and coded in c++ | May 13 21:31 | |
| ThistleWind | if there are genuine features that gnote still has to add, then fine | May 13 21:32 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] @schestowitz I checked, it can't sync to Ubuntu One. I see no downloads for Windows or OSX. | May 13 21:32 | |
| schestowitz | _goblin: I ain't into that. Try http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qAPbXNq0dc | May 13 21:33 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] @schestowitz You dont know what you're talking about. Gnote has no sync capability. http://bit.ly/kB3y7 | May 13 21:34 | |
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| *ThistleWind thinks capcom have share sin joypad companies, the streetfighter ganes destroy pads | May 13 21:34 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @popey probably a compilation job. gnote's maintainer can do that | May 13 21:35 | |
| ThistleWind | not only destroying joypads, but thumbs too :( | May 13 21:36 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xyuX7u-Xts&NR=1&feature=fvwp | May 13 21:36 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] @schestowitz Seriously, you're not listening! gnote has _NO_ sync support yet. Sheesh. FFS read. | May 13 21:37 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] I am so pleased I found a MUD client for Android.....now I can visit Aardwolf on the HTC! #mud #htc #aardwolf | May 13 21:42 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @popey yes, but it would be simple to add it | May 13 21:49 | |
| schestowitz | This is interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EanLS2p47vc | May 13 21:53 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] «Como é que se apagam incêndios com bombeiros pirómanos?» José Adelino Maltês, em referência à actual crise. | May 13 22:02 | |
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| DaemonFC | 80% chance of strong thunderstorms and a high of 88 degrees = a high of 78 and not a cloud in the sky apparently | May 13 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't get a damned thing done all day because there was a severe thunderstorm warning :P | May 13 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | it' supposed to be beautiful tomorrow, which probably means it'll wait until I get the lawnmower out and then cloudburst | May 13 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.newsweek.com/id/237950 | May 13 22:17 |
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| DaemonFC | Naziweek? | May 13 22:17 |
| schestowitz | " | May 13 22:18 |
| schestowitz | # | May 13 22:18 |
| schestowitz | banyt | May 13 22:18 |
| schestowitz | 9 months ago | May 13 22:18 |
| schestowitz | So the ranking officer of the US Napalm program should be jailed/trailed by the Vietnamese. Also the US officer in charge of the B-52 program by Korea, the US head of the cruise missile program by the Kosavoans (sp?), and the B117 head by the Iraqs of course. ALL war criminals! Boy, the lawyers will love you at least! | May 13 22:18 |
| schestowitz | " | May 13 22:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBi69V8oNuw | May 13 22:18 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I just got an email from Samsung | May 13 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, been signed up for some junk mail from them it looks like | May 13 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 13 22:20 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] One of my favorite 4k demo's.. http://www.demoscene.tv/page.php?id=172&lang=uk&vsmaction=view_prod&id_prod=13402 - Amazing work! | May 13 22:22 | |
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| ender2070 | http://xkcd.com/732/ | May 13 22:53 |
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| sebsebseb | So earlier Chromium netbook edition link, that no one here seemed to care about, well here's another http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/ubuntu-1010-netbook-edition-default.html | May 13 23:06 |
| Techrights | Title: UDS-M: Ubuntu 10.10 Netbook Edition default applications: No significant change from Lucid | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 55.63 KB | May 13 23:06 |
| ender2070 | oh nice | May 13 23:08 |
| ender2070 | chromium <3 | May 13 23:08 |
| sebsebseb | ender2070: no | May 13 23:08 |
| sebsebseb | Chromium :( | May 13 23:08 |
| sebsebseb | Firefox :) | May 13 23:08 |
| sebsebseb | however Chromium and Chrome also get a :) when being compared to Internet Explorer | May 13 23:09 |
| ender2070 | I think chromium is superior to firefox atm | May 13 23:09 |
| sebsebseb | oh no | May 13 23:09 |
| ender2070 | both are open source | May 13 23:09 |
| sebsebseb | another Chromium/Chrome fan boy ah! | May 13 23:09 |
| sebsebseb | ender2070: yeah, but | May 13 23:09 |
| ender2070 | not chrome | May 13 23:09 |
| ender2070 | chromium | May 13 23:09 |
| cubezzz | can I be a lynx fanboy? :) | May 13 23:09 |
| sebsebseb | Chromium helps to make the closed source Chrome | May 13 23:09 |
| sebsebseb | and helps with the Google hype | May 13 23:09 |
| cubezzz | I run lynx on sl-5500 you know :) | May 13 23:09 |
| sebsebseb | as a result as well | May 13 23:09 |
| ender2070 | i happen to like the security features and the speed | May 13 23:10 |
| ender2070 | selinux support, sandboxed tabs, fastest javascript engine | May 13 23:10 |
| sebsebseb | also Opera is closed source, but still better than Chrome and Chromium :) | May 13 23:10 |
| ender2070 | i would never use Opera | May 13 23:10 |
| sebsebseb | I will try it sometimes, but i'll use FIrefox since | May 13 23:10 |
| sebsebseb | FIrefox :) | May 13 23:10 |
| sebsebseb | and Opera is closed source | May 13 23:10 |
| cubezzz | it's open source but have you ever compiled it? :) | May 13 23:10 |
| cubezzz | er: chromium/firefox | May 13 23:11 |
| ender2070 | cubezzz - i run dev chromium 5 | May 13 23:11 |
| ender2070 | compiled myself | May 13 23:11 |
| sebsebseb | also the whole Netscape history and all that, another reason to use Firefox really :) | May 13 23:11 |
| ender2070 | its too easy after you have it setup once | May 13 23:11 |
| cubezzz | how about non-x86 ports? | May 13 23:11 |
| sebsebseb | plus it's a strong number 2 after that horrible IE | May 13 23:12 |
| ender2070 | i don't like how firefox uses so much ram | May 13 23:12 |
| ender2070 | w/o extensions | May 13 23:12 |
| sebsebseb | we don't need another stupid browser, making issues for the strong number 2 :D | May 13 23:12 |
| sebsebseb | market share | May 13 23:12 |
| sebsebseb | market share | May 13 23:12 |
| sebsebseb | market share | May 13 23:12 |
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| sebsebseb | that's what these things are about | May 13 23:12 |
| sebsebseb | competition is good, when it's a shit product that is getting the competition | May 13 23:12 |
| cubezzz | I get a kick out of using obscure or old hardware | May 13 23:12 |
| ender2070 | lets not make browser #2 a bloated slow piece of crap | May 13 23:12 |
| ender2070 | :) | May 13 23:12 |
| sebsebseb | which is what is happening when other browsers are competiting against Internet Explorer | May 13 23:12 |
| cubezzz | no one like Aweb? :) | May 13 23:13 |
| ender2070 | even the mozilla guys know they need to make it faster, look at all the FF 4.0 goals | May 13 23:13 |
| sebsebseb | yes they will speed up Firefox | May 13 23:13 |
| ender2070 | i hope firefox 4.0 does better than chromium | May 13 23:13 |
| sebsebseb | however Firefox loads webpages fast enough for me | May 13 23:13 |
| sebsebseb | also it's people that don't understand about browsers | May 13 23:13 |
| sebsebseb | that care so much about speed useauslly | May 13 23:13 |
| sebsebseb | web standards support and security are the two most important things when it comes to browsers, not speed | May 13 23:13 |
| ender2070 | sebsebseb - i've used firefox since it was called phoeonix | May 13 23:14 |
| ender2070 | i know what speed is | May 13 23:14 |
| cubezzz | the web is polluted now | May 13 23:14 |
| ender2070 | pheonix | May 13 23:14 |
| cubezzz | all sorts of non-portable proprietary junk | May 13 23:14 |
| sebsebseb | ender2070: and now your becoming a Chromium fan boy :( | May 13 23:14 |
| sebsebseb | Chromium/Chrome even remind me of Internet Explorer 7 and 8 | May 13 23:14 |
| sebsebseb | how they don't have a | May 13 23:14 |
| ender2070 | yeah because it happens to be better | May 13 23:14 |
| sebsebseb | file edit menu on the top | May 13 23:14 |
| ender2070 | i root for whats better | May 13 23:14 |
| sebsebseb | and how next to the url bar, they have the menu like IE | May 13 23:14 |
| cubezzz | if I built this 100% FOSS computer, I can't use Adobe flash, I just realized | May 13 23:15 |
| ender2070 | FF4.0 will have it too | May 13 23:15 |
| sebsebseb | in certain ways it may be better, for example Webkit may be better than Gecko at the moment | May 13 23:15 |
| sebsebseb | ,but other then that | May 13 23:15 |
| ender2070 | webkit is the number 1 reason | May 13 23:15 |
| sebsebseb | there isn't really anything in Chome/Chromeium | May 13 23:15 |
| sebsebseb | that will make it properly better in any way at all | May 13 23:15 |
| *WireWulf-away is now known as WireWulf | May 13 23:15 | |
| ender2070 | theres a hell of a difference between chromium and arora for example | May 13 23:15 |
| cubezzz | that reminds me, got to give gnash another go | May 13 23:16 |
| ender2070 | rekonq not so much, I notice they are ripping chrome off | May 13 23:16 |
| cubezzz | painful, but necessary | May 13 23:16 |
| sebsebseb | KHTML :) | May 13 23:16 |
| sebsebseb | Webkit uh why? | May 13 23:16 |
| sebsebseb | why coudn't Apple have improved KHTML instead | May 13 23:16 |
| ender2070 | webkit is better | May 13 23:16 |
| sebsebseb | why did Apple have to fork KHTML? | May 13 23:16 |
| sebsebseb | and make Webkit | May 13 23:16 |
| ender2070 | look at the code | May 13 23:16 |
| ender2070 | they are completely different now | May 13 23:17 |
| sebsebseb | oh yeah load sof you say crapple and stuff like that | May 13 23:17 |
| ender2070 | they both had different directions | May 13 23:17 |
| sebsebseb | and say you don't like Apple and blah de blah | May 13 23:17 |
| sebsebseb | well reminder | May 13 23:17 |
| sebsebseb | Apple started Webkit | May 13 23:17 |
| ender2070 | and? | May 13 23:17 |
| ender2070 | its open source | May 13 23:17 |
| ender2070 | anyone can use it | May 13 23:17 |
| sebsebseb | yes, but it was still started by Apple | May 13 23:17 |
| ender2070 | microsoft could even use it if they wanted | May 13 23:17 |
| ender2070 | lol | May 13 23:18 |
| sebsebseb | just like Evolution was started, by your beloved Novell :D | May 13 23:18 |
| ender2070 | I don't like Novell | May 13 23:18 |
| cubezzz | nothign is 100% bad | May 13 23:18 |
| sebsebseb | ender2070: I know | May 13 23:18 |
| ender2070 | I use KDE | May 13 23:18 |
| sebsebseb | hence say beloved like that | May 13 23:18 |
| cubezzz | novell did some OK things | May 13 23:18 |
| sebsebseb | anyway projects being started that are open source, but started by companies that you guys don't like | May 13 23:18 |
| ender2070 | thats another thing | May 13 23:18 |
| ender2070 | mozilla hates kde | May 13 23:18 |
| sebsebseb | Netscape had a sad life | May 13 23:18 |
| sebsebseb | since IE being bundled into Windows | May 13 23:18 |
| sebsebseb | wasn't Netscape at some stage sold though? | May 13 23:19 |
| ender2070 | chromium might be gtk but it behaves properly in KDE | May 13 23:19 |
| cubezzz | yeah to AOL | May 13 23:19 |
| sebsebseb | no I meant | May 13 23:19 |
| sebsebseb | to the users | May 13 23:19 |
| ender2070 | lol! | May 13 23:19 |
| sebsebseb | did users ever pay for it? | May 13 23:19 |
| ender2070 | oh yeah, and chromium isn't an AOL product | May 13 23:19 |
| cubezzz | yes! | May 13 23:19 |
| ender2070 | hahahahahahaha | May 13 23:19 |
| ender2070 | :P | May 13 23:19 |
| cubezzz | actually I sold it even :) | May 13 23:19 |
| sebsebseb | I only started using computers properly | May 13 23:19 |
| sebsebseb | in the late 90's | May 13 23:19 |
| cubezzz | netscape 2.0 retail box | May 13 23:19 |
| cubezzz | I might even still have one box :) | May 13 23:20 |
| sebsebseb | so if IE hadn't made Netscape die | May 13 23:20 |
| sebsebseb | yes no Firefox and so on, but | May 13 23:20 |
| sebsebseb | even so, I guess today we woudn't be using a paid browser? | May 13 23:20 |
| ender2070 | you're both noobs | May 13 23:20 |
| sebsebseb | ,but would we still be using IE most of us? uh | May 13 23:20 |
| ender2070 | you even know the history? | May 13 23:20 |
| sebsebseb | only bits | May 13 23:20 |
| ender2070 | netscape went open source long before IE killed them | May 13 23:21 |
| sebsebseb | I know | May 13 23:21 |
| sebsebseb | 1998 | May 13 23:21 |
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| ender2070 | 1997 or so | May 13 23:21 |
| sebsebseb | they released to Mozilla | May 13 23:21 |
| cubezzz | of course, we have lynx and a million other things | May 13 23:21 |
| sebsebseb | before being bought out by AOL | May 13 23:21 |
| cubezzz | you're just thinking gui all the time | May 13 23:21 |
| WireWulf | if netscape was still around we'd only have mozilla :( | May 13 23:21 |
| sebsebseb | what I am wondering about is if none of that had happended, what browser we would be using today | May 13 23:21 |
| ender2070 | gecko is just an AOL invention | May 13 23:21 |
| sebsebseb | Gecko is an AOL invention what? | May 13 23:22 |
| cubezzz | ok, what did BSD use in the beginning? | May 13 23:22 |
| sebsebseb | well anway 2004 to about 2009/8 | May 13 23:22 |
| sebsebseb | Firefox was all cool or something | May 13 23:22 |
| cubezzz | for browser? | May 13 23:22 |
| WireWulf | xxnot sure | May 13 23:22 |
| ender2070 | the gecko engine was made for Netscape 6 | May 13 23:22 |
| sebsebseb | and then this Chrome thing came along, and for the geeks chromeium | May 13 23:22 |
| sebsebseb | and now it's like FIrefox isn't that cool anymore, or something | May 13 23:22 |
| WireWulf | chrome is fail | May 13 23:22 |
| ender2070 | it was all AOL back then | May 13 23:22 |
| WireWulf | IE8 can have chrome framwork :P | May 13 23:23 |
| cubezzz | viola was pretty early | May 13 23:23 |
| sebsebseb | WireWulf: yeah Chrome :( definetly | May 13 23:23 |
| sebsebseb | WireWulf: ,but what about Chromium ? | May 13 23:23 |
| cubezzz | it all came from academia | May 13 23:23 |
| ender2070 | WireWulf - chrome has been infecting all the browsers | May 13 23:23 |
| WireWulf | sebsebseb: tis fail too | May 13 23:23 |
| sebsebseb | well better people use that Google hyped up Chrome, than IE | May 13 23:23 |
| sebsebseb | ,but other then that :( | May 13 23:23 |
| cubezzz | btw, lynx goes back to 1992 | May 13 23:23 |
| ender2070 | WireWulf - i think you can get chromium for firefox too | May 13 23:23 |
| ender2070 | WireWulf - its called the google toolbar | May 13 23:23 |
| WireWulf | brb | May 13 23:24 |
| cubezzz | so probably BSD used lynx too early on | May 13 23:24 |
| ender2070 | sebsebseb - I would suggest recommending the use of any open source browser | May 13 23:24 |
| sebsebseb | ender2070: well yes | May 13 23:24 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | May 13 23:24 |
| sebsebseb | i'll still mainly recommend Firefox | May 13 23:24 |
| sebsebseb | :) | May 13 23:24 |
| ender2070 | sebsebseb - I'm not hating on you for using firefox | May 13 23:24 |
| cubezzz | different tools for different jobs | May 13 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | Go back to uhmm 2003/4 and I was a major FIrefox fan boy! | May 13 23:25 |
| cubezzz | personally I like lynx for a lot of reasons | May 13 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | even 2005 I still was really | May 13 23:25 |
| ender2070 | we all have different tastes and we should all be lucky we have the freedom | May 13 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | ender2070: we do sure | May 13 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | ,but most computer users no | May 13 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | they use Windows they use Chrome | May 13 23:26 |
| ender2070 | no more closed source browser required for most of the web | May 13 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | they use products from brand names they know | May 13 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah Microsoft and Google and so on | May 13 23:26 |
| WireWulf | BSD used something different ack before 92 | May 13 23:26 |
| WireWulf | i still use lynxx | May 13 23:26 |
| WireWulf | and links2 | May 13 23:26 |
| cubezzz | before 1992 there was just www on Next :) | May 13 23:26 |
| ender2070 | firefox needs to pass acid3 | May 13 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | some people even think they have a choice, when buying a computer | May 13 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | about the software they will run | May 13 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | yeah when buying a computer that is pre installed with Windows | May 13 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | they think they choosed to use Microsoft Office for example | May 13 23:27 |
| sebsebseb | ,but really they didn't | May 13 23:27 |
| sebsebseb | it was forced on to them | May 13 23:27 |
| sebsebseb | just like Windows was | May 13 23:27 |
| ender2070 | openoffice is fucking them up | May 13 23:27 |
| ender2070 | 25% market share or something iirc | May 13 23:27 |
| cubezzz | you don't have a lot of choice for bios | May 13 23:27 |
| WireWulf | a choice | May 13 23:27 |
| cubezzz | you really have to be careful there | May 13 23:27 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: most people don't change their bios | May 13 23:27 |
| sebsebseb | also people should leave the bios alone | May 13 23:28 |
| sebsebseb | unless | May 13 23:28 |
| sebsebseb | they have a proper reason to update/change it | May 13 23:28 |
| WireWulf | umm | May 13 23:28 |
| sebsebseb | who agree's with me? | May 13 23:28 |
| MinceR | gn | May 13 23:28 |
| *WireWulf doesn't have standered bios | May 13 23:28 | |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: night | May 13 23:28 |
| cubezzz | wouldn't you rather be able to compile your own bios? | May 13 23:28 |
| cubezzz | I sure would | May 13 23:28 |
| sebsebseb | I mean the average computer user should leave it alone | May 13 23:28 |
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| sebsebseb | the major geeks, can do what they want with their bios | May 13 23:28 |
| *WireWulf has a linux kernel as bios | May 13 23:28 | |
| sebsebseb | who think that if there is a bios update, you should go and install it? | May 13 23:29 |
| cubezzz | which motherboard please? | May 13 23:29 |
| cubezzz | I'm curious | May 13 23:29 |
| sebsebseb | which motherboard I have, I don't know, I guess lspci or whatever will mention it though | May 13 23:29 |
| WireWulf | have to look in abit | May 13 23:29 |
| WireWulf | i am on my laptop | May 13 23:29 |
| *cubezzz blinks | May 13 23:29 | |
| WireWulf | at a place begging for a job | May 13 23:30 |
| cubezzz | ok :) | May 13 23:30 |
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| cubezzz | I'm interested in building a totally FOSS computer you see | May 13 23:30 |
| cubezzz | I'm almost there | May 13 23:30 |
| WireWulf | you can use linux as a bios for any CPU with some work | May 13 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: ok, but your a geek, and you know what to do with a BIOS | May 13 23:31 |
| WireWulf | tho seems to be easier with older amds and intel celerons (if you want a x86 foos) | May 13 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: where as most computer users no, so they should really keep out of it, except for changing the boot order, so a Linux distro Live CD will boot up :) | May 13 23:32 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @arstechnica: Pirate Bay ISP bashes Hollywood's "clueless idiots" - http://arst.ch/k3k | May 13 23:32 | |
| Techrights | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 301 MOVED PERMANENTLY .::. Size~: 0 KB | May 13 23:32 |
| WireWulf | sebsebseb: you really dont have to have bios these days | May 13 23:32 |
| WireWulf | CPU loading hools are built into most os's | May 13 23:33 |
| WireWulf | ?*hooks | May 13 23:33 |
| WireWulf | mmm linux compiled for a newer macbook awesome | May 13 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | some motherboards have a BIOS, but you can flash them to use EFI later, I've noticed | May 13 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | what's up with that? | May 13 23:34 |
| WireWulf | no clue | May 13 23:35 |
| WireWulf | MAC mobo's don't use ios | May 13 23:35 |
| WireWulf | *bios | May 13 23:35 |
| cubezzz | uh, you still need the bios to get things started | May 13 23:35 |
| WireWulf | cubezzz: not as much as you use too | May 13 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | You guys want to hear something crazy? Maybe I mentioned it already. | May 13 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | My DSL order had to be canceled because they put in the wrong house number | May 13 23:36 |
| schestowitz | I'm tried of WIndows | May 13 23:36 |
| WireWulf | lmao | May 13 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | so I called to straighten things out and the rep noticed I owed them $220 | May 13 23:37 |
| WireWulf | mmm windows | May 13 23:37 |
| cubezzz | even LILO is 2nd stage WireWulf | May 13 23:37 |
| cubezzz | you need a bootstrap loader | May 13 23:37 |
| schestowitz | WIndows zombies cost me hours per months and money. I'm wasting bloody time trying to save bandwidth on them... GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.... | May 13 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | so I hung up on her and called back, and the new rep didn't notice and finalized the order | May 13 23:37 |
| WireWulf | yes and no | May 13 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | and now my install date is the 18th :P | May 13 23:37 |
| schestowitz | In one site, like 95%+ of the traffic is WIn/IE zombies | May 13 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: How are AT&T's wires crossed so bad that one rep noticed I owe them money and won't finish the order, and the other one doesn't notice at all? | May 13 23:38 |
| WireWulf | basicly all you need to do with a current os is boot the cd rom and the mbr of the hhd the os is on | May 13 23:38 |
| schestowitz | Nations of the zombie PCs. | May 13 23:38 |
| schestowitz | deGermanyde6891868939166.03 MB | May 13 23:38 |
| schestowitz | nlNetherlandsnl217642179767.80 MB | May 13 23:38 |
| schestowitz | lvLatvialv127491274930.49 MB | May 13 23:38 |
| schestowitz | luLuxembourglu9478947827.15 MB | May 13 23:38 |
| schestowitz | czCzech Republiccz7557755716.48 MB | May 13 23:38 |
| schestowitz | usUnited Statesus7427745024.88 MB | May 13 23:38 |
| WireWulf | winZombies | May 13 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | some ISPs will cut off your account and tell you to disinfect your PCs before they let you back on | May 13 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | as it should be | May 13 23:39 |
| cubezzz | the bootstrap loader starts the interrupt controller :) | May 13 23:39 |
| cubezzz | you kind of need that | May 13 23:39 |
| WireWulf | so i forgot a some of the other bits | May 13 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | they can put you in the Walled Garden mode for not paying your bill or for exceeding your caps | May 13 23:40 |
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| WireWulf | but all it all you dont need a old school bios making most of the highlevel system calls | May 13 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | why can't they limit infected PCs to downloading antivirus? | May 13 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | you'd think they would with the bandwidth burden than zombies put on their network | May 13 23:41 |
| WireWulf | if the current os makes the same calls with or without bios | May 13 23:41 |
| WireWulf | DaemonFC: bot.nets are awesome | May 13 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | WireWulf: You figure that Gevalia thing is a scam? | May 13 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | I've heard it both ways | May 13 23:45 |
| cubezzz | your superio sutff needs to be mapped into memory | May 13 23:46 |
| cubezzz | _before_ linux does anything | May 13 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | my aunt is on one of their coffee subscriptions, and they do have good coffee | May 13 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | I read around a bit and found people complaining that they were getting unwanted shipments after canceling their account :P | May 13 23:46 |
| schestowitz | How can I make the mysql DB read-only? | May 13 23:47 |
| WireWulf | havent looked into gevlia | May 13 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | I'm a bit leery about subscribing to things after that Columbia House thing I got into years back | May 13 23:49 |
| WireWulf | lol | May 13 23:49 |
| cubezzz | once they get your credit card number.... | May 13 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | they had a deal where they sent you like 8 DVDs for a penny or some such thing and you had to buy 12 more at "club prices" | May 13 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | which worked out to about $3 more than the local stores | May 13 23:50 |
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| cubezzz | Nelson says "Ha Ha" :) | May 13 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | and if you forgot to send the cards back, they sent you the "Director's Selection" which was always some crap movie that wasn't selling that they wanted rid of | May 13 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 13 23:50 |
| WireWulf | mmm crap movie | May 13 23:51 |
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| ender2070 | cubezzz - what do you know of for ISP's? | May 13 23:51 |
| WireWulf | the unforunate truth | May 13 23:52 |
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| DaemonFC | WireWulf: Like, I had them sending me chick flicks and stuff I never would have bought | May 13 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | and trying to bill me for it | May 13 23:52 |
| cubezzz | hmmm? I use TOronto Freenet | May 13 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | oh, I also have to slip in some praise for DirecTV's set top box here | May 13 23:53 |
| WireWulf | lol canunk | May 13 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | their guide lets you filter out channels you don't like | May 13 23:53 |
| cubezzz | there's tech savvy, and bell and rogers and the freenets | May 13 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | so I filtered out the pay per view channels, the Jesus channels, and the home shopping channels :) | May 13 23:53 |
| cubezzz | toronto freenet gives you a lot of freedom | May 13 23:53 |
| cubezzz | of course there is also NCF | May 13 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | uggh, Weather Channel keeps editing their hourly forecast | May 13 23:54 |
| cubezzz | it doesn't hurt to learn the names of a few Bell techs also | May 13 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | it was supposed to start raining at 2 AM, right? | May 13 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | they push back the "it'll start raining at..." by 2 hours everytime it's not raining | May 13 23:55 |
| WireWulf | dunno | May 13 23:55 |
| WireWulf | starts raining like 6amishhere | May 13 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | it hasn't rained all day and now it's supposed to start a 9 PM | May 13 23:55 |
| WireWulf | last i heard | May 13 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/ubuntu-1010-application-lineup-sees-no.html | May 13 23:55 |
| Techrights | Title: Ubuntu 10.10 Application Lineup sees no major changes | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 53.23 KB | May 13 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | except in the netbook with Chromium probably as default browser, as already mentioned here | May 13 23:55 |
| cubezzz | building coreboot for the 1st time :) | May 13 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | I liked how they made fun of the UK last night on the Daily Show | May 13 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | "It rains 340 days of the year, and it rains the other 25 days too only nobody notices because it can't penetrate the fog!" | May 13 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 13 23:56 |
| WireWulf | netbooks would do wail with a brower based WM | May 13 23:56 |
| WireWulf | make firefox the DE | May 13 23:57 |
| WireWulf | add an explore add on | May 13 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | WireWulf: Some antivirus apps are now using hardware VT to sandbox the web browser | May 13 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | I found that interesting | May 13 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | so the antivirus has veto power over anything the browser tries to do, regardless which browser you use | May 13 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | and Shotwell instead of F-Spot as already mentioned | May 13 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I can tell you why there aren't any Linux viruses | May 13 23:59 |
| ender2070 | cubezzz - I live somewhere where I can't get my own cable or phone line seperate | May 13 23:59 |
| DaemonFC | it was actually stated in what was presented as a joke on the FSF's site | May 13 23:59 |
| WireWulf | there is 1 or 2 unix virses | May 13 23:59 |
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