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| schestowitz | Heh. http://www.stephankinsella.com/2010/05/15/anti-ip-post-on-techrights-org/ | May 16 00:01 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Listening an edit @ciemon made of an interview I did with Jeremy Foshee. I could listen to his voice all day. So smooth. | May 16 00:01 | |
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| schestowitz | Also response here: http://wwmm.ch.cam.ac.uk/blogs/murrayrust/?p=2414 | May 16 00:06 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Cleaning up my irc client by quitting all the #uds channels makes me a little sad that it's over. Never mind,next one is only 6 months away! | May 16 00:18 | |
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| DaemonFC | I just took out that window unit and put in intake and exhaust fans | May 16 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 16 00:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVc2ymSfGOU | May 16 00:21 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Grahame Morrison - No "feuds" on his watch? http://tinyurl.com/27eqz5x #techradar #mono #kde #gnome #xfce #linux #foss | May 16 00:24 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @_goblin Grahame Morrison - No "feuds" on his watch? http://tinyurl.com/27eqz5x #techradar #mono #kde #gnome #xfce #linux #foss | May 16 00:27 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I mistakenly associated Peter Murray-Rust with open access rather than open data. Sorry, Sir. http://ur1.ca/017fp | May 16 00:37 | |
| Techrights | Title: Unilever Centre for Molecular Informatics, Cambridge - An Apologia: Open issues including chemistry, and Microsoft « petermrs blog .::. Size~: 29.27 KB | May 16 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I decided to yank out the air conditioner and play around with taking in outside air at night with fans instead | May 16 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 16 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | should work most of the time | May 16 00:38 |
| schestowitz | This guy is brilliant: http://www.youtube.com/user/patcondell | May 16 00:39 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: here we hardly have A/Cs | May 16 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | the thing is a pain in the ass | May 16 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | it raises the electric bill, when you take it out, the condensation pan drains all over everything | May 16 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | and these cheap windows the landlord put in here don't seal correctly | May 16 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | so a good chunk of the cold air just goes right back outside | May 16 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | the only time they seal correctly is when they are shut | May 16 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know who decided to buy these | May 16 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | it's like saying a car that doesn't run works when it's off | May 16 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 16 00:42 |
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| DaemonFC | he wants to bitch about his electric bills, he shouldn't have put in five cheap windows that don't seal | May 16 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 16 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | oh yeah, and they like to break for no reason | May 16 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | the window I'm sitting next to cracked diagonally two years ago | May 16 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | one of the ones downstairs had the outer pane break entirely and it took him 8 months to do something | May 16 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | "Why is my electric bill going up?" | May 16 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | I wanted to ask him "When will you replace the other half of the window that's leaking all the F***ING HEAT!?!?!?" | May 16 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 16 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | but I'm too nice | May 16 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: It's my theory that the people that are doing what they're supposed to catch all the flak over everything | May 16 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | I'm the only one in the building that's not selling drugs, moving in my entire extended family off the lease, or not paying their rent for months at a time | May 16 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | and he yells at me for everything | May 16 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | I swear the next time he starts flapping his mouth, I'm going to gouge out his eyeballs with an icepick and pour iodine in them | May 16 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | ) | May 16 00:49 |
| *DaemonFC feels better :D | May 16 00:49 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: use a sweater | May 16 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | to strangle him with? | May 16 00:52 |
| schestowitz | Your body has enough heat it can produce with sufficient insulation | May 16 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | nylon cord is more practical | May 16 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | ahhh | May 16 00:52 |
| schestowitz | Nylon would make him hypothermic, I think | May 16 00:53 |
| schestowitz | Blood running to the wrong places or none to the head | May 16 00:53 |
| jweyrich | schestowitz: hey :) | May 16 00:55 |
| schestowitz | Hey, jweyrich | May 16 00:56 |
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| yuhong | http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/bjr9j/so_whats_the_verdict_on_boycott_novell_im_getting/c0q1vqb?context=3 | May 16 00:56 |
| Techrights | Title: yuhong comments on So what's the verdict on Boycott Novell? I'm getting lots of trackbacks from them and wondering if they're hurting my rep or not... .::. Size~: 42.6 KB | May 16 00:56 |
| jweyrich | furnace didn't appear lately? | May 16 00:56 |
| yuhong | From Reddit. | May 16 00:56 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Ugh @ this faq. https://www.avaneya.com/faq.html#opensource Surely the answer to that question is way too long. "Yes" would suffice. | May 16 00:58 | |
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| schestowitz | jweyrich: yeah, I was gonna ask you about him | May 16 01:01 |
| schestowitz | I'm communicating with him on Twitter | May 16 01:01 |
| jweyrich | spoke to him last week if I remember correctly, but was 4 or 5 words. what about rnb? | May 16 01:02 |
| schestowitz | Not been here in a while, I don't know why | May 16 01:03 |
| jweyrich | (about the reddit article mentioned): the map image contradicts what's written there. the map doesn't show direct connection between microsoft and US government, etc. | May 16 01:03 |
| jweyrich | he got scared when I found him in another irc network, he thought I tracked him or something like that. | May 16 01:04 |
| jweyrich | after that, he stopped answering me. | May 16 01:04 |
| jweyrich | crazy people :) | May 16 01:04 |
| schestowitz | Tobin? | May 16 01:06 |
| jweyrich | rnb. | May 16 01:06 |
| MinceR | sounds like some guy from Stargate :> | May 16 01:07 |
| schestowitz | r&b | May 16 01:07 |
| jweyrich | can't remember his name. well, if I tell you the name, he would get the next flight to moon. | May 16 01:09 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: see http://techrights.org/2010/03/24/software-patents-mess-vs-foss/ | May 16 01:10 |
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| schestowitz | Tux radar have a history of FSF disagreement | May 16 01:10 |
| schestowitz | Linux Action Show is the same | May 16 01:10 |
| schestowitz | http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/011148.html | May 16 01:16 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/news/Blogs/climate/the-orang-utan-takes-to-the-streets/blog/11756 | May 16 01:24 |
| Techrights | Title: The orang-utan takes to the streets | Greenpeace International .::. Size~: 57.08 KB | May 16 01:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Mandy Antoinette. http://is.gd/caIXu WHAT | May 16 01:27 | |
| Techrights | Title: Mandy Antoinette: Tories lose their nerve in provocative poster campaign attacking Mandelson | Mail Online .::. Size~: 64.39 KB | May 16 01:27 |
| schestowitz | What a stupid headline/story: http://news.techworld.com/operating-systems/3222706/microsoft-wont-support-html-5-on-windows-xp/?olo=rss | May 16 01:29 |
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| schestowitz | People can just got browsers other than IE | May 16 01:29 |
| schestowitz | http://www.locusmag.com/Perspectives/2010/05/cory-doctorow-persistence-pays-parasites/ | May 16 01:33 |
| Techrights | Title: Locus Online Perspectives » Cory Doctorow: Persistence Pays Parasites .::. Size~: 54.04 KB | May 16 01:33 |
| schestowitz | Cory got phished | May 16 01:33 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: yes, but m$ won't support any of them :> | May 16 01:35 |
| MinceR | (not that it's good for a browser to be "supported" by m$...) | May 16 01:35 |
| MinceR | gn | May 16 01:36 |
| schestowitz | http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/05/new_windows_att.html | May 16 01:37 |
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| schestowitz | http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0514/76111/ | May 16 01:38 |
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| schestowitz | http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0514/white-cop-black-man-shot-himself/ | May 16 01:38 |
| Techrights | Title: White cop confesses he shot himself, invented black assailant | Raw Story .::. Size~: 40.41 KB | May 16 01:38 |
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| schestowitz | http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0505/obama-biggest-recipient-bp-political-action-money-20-years/ | May 16 01:42 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1635299/nokia-admits-losing-ground | May 16 01:48 |
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| schestowitz | gn | May 16 01:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Are you quiting Facebook on 31 May 2010? I certainly am. http://www.quitfacebookday.com/ #facebook #quit | May 16 02:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] @_Goblin Nope. I changed all of the default security settings to 'Friends Only', which fixes the problem. | May 16 02:59 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Its nice to see the regular Wintrolls on comp.os.linux.advocacy.....all this time and they have still achieved nothing..... | May 16 02:59 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Never mind, according to the Wintroll M0she, he's rich. LOL.....that's a new one on me....the words "bottom of the barrel" spring to mind. | May 16 03:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Microsoft inadvertently admits that their #office formats are designed to keep u locked in http://bit.ly/bgBye5 #ooxml #donotwant #google | May 16 03:37 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] sorry @justinbieber you're blocked | May 16 03:38 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Valve's multi platform strategy examined. http://is.gd/caZ4x | May 16 05:55 | |
| Techrights | Title: Valve to Take Over All Computer Gaming Distribution - Bright Side Of News* .::. Size~: 101.62 KB | May 16 05:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] OSNews settles for Opel Astra like operating system. http://is.gd/cb054 | May 16 06:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Rumours of Linux 2.6 and Android dual boot retail Smartphone. http://is.gd/cb0SC | May 16 06:26 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] urgently Need 1-2 paid volunteer for Workshops at NCERT from 17 to 21 may. Of-course honorarium will be given. #foss #workshop | May 16 06:43 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] 75 year old killed by mortar fire, 15 year old killed; shot in the back. http://is.gd/cb21W #Palestine #occupation | May 16 06:48 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/14/ibm_manchester_lab/ | May 16 07:30 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/14/national_archives/ | May 16 07:33 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@careabthealth @terriblerose you do worms a disservice-useful,honest creatures. Let's just call her what she is: just a really shitty human | May 16 07:35 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Listening to jesperkyd - "Global Trash" http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=68818 #amiga #demoscene #mod | May 16 08:09 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@avivao maybe it's best to judge ppl by what they do, not what they say or self-label :) | May 16 08:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] !ubuntu is great, but its NOT !free software. Its chock full of proprietary software and binary blobs. !gnewSense is the !free edition... | May 16 08:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Here is a list of #free GNU/Linux distributions: http://tinyurl.com/ddlveh HTH ;-) | May 16 08:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Here is a list of !free GNU/Linux distributions: http://tinyurl.com/ddlveh HTH ;-) | May 16 08:25 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] #ubuntu is great, but its NOT #free software. Its chock full of proprietary software and binary blobs. #gnewSense is the #free edition... | May 16 08:26 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Thanks to the clueless press there is confusion all over the place about #free #software. http://tinyurl.com/4zrk3 | May 16 08:35 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Thanks to the clueless press there is confusion all over the place about !free !software. http://tinyurl.com/4zrk3 | May 16 08:35 | |
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| schestowitz | Wth? | May 16 08:49 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Lavan chayayittondirikya . #wait#madi RT @aashiks: @joshinaa lavan lavidille ? | May 16 08:53 | |
| schestowitz | http://networking.cbronline.com/news/aruba_to_acquire_azalea_networks_in_405m_deal_110510 | May 16 08:59 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @arunram: #Wikipedia Meetup14 at #Bangalore 2DAY 3PM http://bit.ly/bv3FPG #WPMBL14 Note this is at new CIS office in domlur | May 16 08:59 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Google's # of results count is weird. You can get N results for "<phrase>" and X*2 results for "<phrase> <phrase2>" | May 16 09:04 | |
| schestowitz | I need scroogle toolbar... http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/blogs/bentley/does-google-have-its-head-in-the-sand-on-privacy/?cs=41108 | May 16 09:05 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.techworld.com.au/article/345710/google_calendar_crashes_most_users?fp=2&fpid=1&rid=1 | May 16 09:16 |
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| _goblin | Morning all | May 16 09:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Hitting the F-Spot – New version a day after its dumping? http://tinyurl.com/3ayl8n6 #mono #novell #ubuntu #canonical #linux | May 16 09:18 | |
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| schestowitz | _goblin: hi | May 16 09:23 |
| _goblin | morning! | May 16 09:23 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/whiskey-tango-foxtrot/38819-ipad-catches-fire | May 16 09:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/05/12/former-dmoz-editor-corruption-was-caught-quickly | May 16 10:05 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.boingboing.net/2010/05/07/linux-users-twice-as.html | May 16 10:50 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/196306/capgemini_adding_4000_staff_in_india.html?tk=rss_news | May 16 11:31 |
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| schestowitz | bbl | May 16 11:39 |
| MinceR | j0 | May 16 11:43 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Woke up to Bruce Dickinson on CBeebies telling the Jackanory Junior story. | May 16 12:30 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Heavy #rain in #bangalore. | May 16 13:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Missed #WPMBL14 today. | May 16 13:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] #awesome rain in #bangalore accompanied with #powercut . loving it | May 16 13:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Hope i can make it RT @tinucherian: Next month Wikipedia Meetup will be on Jun13, http://bit.ly/cSjqcD RT @anivar: Missed #WPMBL14 today. | May 16 13:21 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @satyasagar: Orissa CM Naveen Patnaik has blood on his 'spotless' white corporate kurta! The blood of innocent people! #orissaconcerns | May 16 13:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @satyasagar: East India Company agent Naveen Patnaik resign! Stop shooting Indian farmers on behalf of foreign companies! #orissaconcerns | May 16 13:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @joshinaa: vannu poyi vannu poyi kandilla.#electricity #bangalore #fail | May 16 13:33 | |
| schestowitz | This is kind of nice: http://www.twit.tv/floss119 | May 16 13:56 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/174226,nec-announces-video-checking-technology.aspx | May 16 13:59 |
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| schestowitz | http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap100511.html | May 16 14:08 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Thanks. Credit goes to Deljo , a close friend of mine. RT @drbekbal: @anivar your new profile photo looks wonderful. Who took it? Her? | May 16 14:15 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Diaspora is choosing the AGPL, which is as free(dom) as it can get | May 16 14:16 | |
| schestowitz | "On his Twitter account today, Cory Doctorow, an author and co-editor of the popular blog BoingBoing, tweeted that he had signed off from Facebook, for good." http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/tech-bigwigs-quit-facebook-follow/story?id=10647358 | May 16 14:18 |
| Techrights | Title: Tech Bigwigs Quit Facebook: Will Others Follow? - ABC News .::. Size~: 70.22 KB | May 16 14:18 |
| schestowitz | I deleted mine this morning | May 16 14:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @arunram: The malayalam wikipedia CD was based on s/w from @santhoshtr #WPMBL14 #wikimedia kudos to @santoshtr | May 16 14:20 | |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-27076_3-20004969-248.html | May 16 14:21 |
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| schestowitz | no html5 | May 16 14:21 |
| schestowitz | # | May 16 14:21 |
| schestowitz | # "We continue to monitor developments on HTML5, but as of now it doesn't yet meet all of our customers' needs," Wei said | May 16 14:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64D42W20100514 | May 16 14:23 |
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| schestowitz | "Waddell on May 6 sold a large order of e-mini contracts during a 20-minute span in which U.S. equities markets plunged, briefly wiping out nearly $1 trillion in market capital, the internal document from Chicago Mercantile Exchange parent CME Group Inc said." | May 16 14:23 |
| oiaohm | http://defensetech.org/2010/05/11/the-race-to-build-a-secure-operating-system/ The on going battle. | May 16 14:24 |
| Techrights | Title: The Race to Build a Secure Operating System | Defense Tech .::. Size~: 78.01 KB | May 16 14:24 |
| schestowitz | I linked to this after reading it | May 16 14:26 |
| schestowitz | There's more of that I'll post later | May 16 14:26 |
| schestowitz | Right now I'm reading a bit on Microsoft | May 16 14:26 |
| cubezzz | there are secure operating systems | May 16 14:26 |
| cubezzz | just don't install tcp/ip :) | May 16 14:27 |
| cubezzz | live cd is pretty secure | May 16 14:28 |
| oiaohm | Linux kernel development is long last showing signs of slowing. | May 16 14:29 |
| oiaohm | What could be a sign of it approcing maturity. | May 16 14:29 |
| oiaohm | And once Linux is mature people who love mucking with OS's have to find something else to much with. | May 16 14:30 |
| oiaohm | So what is better than making a highly secure OS. | May 16 14:30 |
| cubezzz | imagine if someone developed a totally secret cpu and os for it | May 16 14:30 |
| cubezzz | no one could attack it | May 16 14:30 |
| oiaohm | Who to say it has not happened. | May 16 14:30 |
| cubezzz | yes, I'd even say it's probable | May 16 14:31 |
| oiaohm | Thinking if you did not care about speed you could use fpga chips for the cpu. | May 16 14:32 |
| oiaohm | That would make a really nasty cpu set to attack. Since if you ever worked out what the cpu was it could be completely recoded. | May 16 14:32 |
| MinceR | HURD would be the natural next step. | May 16 14:33 |
| oiaohm | http://wildfox.sourceforge.net/ Hmm some people are idiots. | May 16 14:34 |
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| oiaohm | Hosting a firefox with h264 on sourceforge thinking sourceforge is inside the USA zone. | May 16 14:35 |
| cubezzz | most of us are oiaohm :) | May 16 14:36 |
| schestowitz | http://gateskeepers.civiblog.org/blog/_archives/2010/5/14/4527840.html | May 16 14:36 |
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| cubezzz | I bet Linux on ARM would be pretty secure too | May 16 14:38 |
| cubezzz | non x86 cpu would help a lot | May 16 14:38 |
| cubezzz | or even just have one computer with almost nothing but the bare bones os and connect to another computer that doesn't have tcp/ip | May 16 14:40 |
| cubezzz | but building your own cpu sounds like the most secure method to me | May 16 14:44 |
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| cubezzz | http://www.osnews.com/story/23300/_quot_My_Amiga_Killed_a_Troll_quot_ | May 16 15:08 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/operatingsystems/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=224700980&subSection=News | May 16 15:17 |
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| schestowitz | ARM | May 16 15:17 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: natural NextSTEP? | May 16 15:17 |
| MinceR | ew | May 16 15:17 |
| Ziodotmatrix | que es esso, ai corum | May 16 15:20 |
| Ziodotmatrix | corumba, tu comprende? | May 16 15:20 |
| cubezzz | groklaw on amiga: | May 16 15:21 |
| cubezzz | http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/2646/a500osnews.png | May 16 15:21 |
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| cubezzz | amiga 500 even :) | May 16 15:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/051410-dell-smartphones.html | May 16 15:22 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: your PC? | May 16 15:22 |
| cubezzz | used to be | May 16 15:23 |
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| cubezzz | no, that pic isn't from me | May 16 15:24 |
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| cubezzz | microsoft is ebbing away though | May 16 15:26 |
| cubezzz | death of a thousand cuts | May 16 15:26 |
| cubezzz | "Our company is in the position of wanting anything but more Microsoft. No matter how many licences you buy, they treat you disdainfully. The licenses themselves are too expensive, and too compromising of our flexibility and needs" | May 16 15:27 |
| cubezzz | why use Microsoft when they don't even treat you well? | May 16 15:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Group photo from #uds http://www.flickr.com/photos/kwwii/4610334160/sizes/l/ | May 16 15:44 | |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: source? | May 16 15:49 |
| schestowitz | Wow. | May 16 15:51 |
| schestowitz | Only 5 headlines (or clusters thereof) about Vista 7 in one week | May 16 15:51 |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, it's farther down in the comments of HP To Ditch Windows 7 For Homegrown OS? | May 16 15:52 |
| cubezzz | just people expressing their opinions | May 16 15:52 |
| schestowitz | Dross like this: http://www.pcworld.com/article/196255/convert_windows_7_tv_recordings_to_dvrms_format.html | May 16 15:52 |
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| schestowitz | It's a good sign | May 16 15:52 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @popey Group photo from #uds http://www.flickr.com/photos/kwwii/4610334160/sizes/l/ #ubuntu | May 16 15:52 | |
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| schestowitz | Nobody cares about Windows... they talk about Android | May 16 15:53 |
| schestowitz | And Apple, sadly | May 16 15:53 |
| cubezzz | yeah no one talks about Linux in broadcasting | May 16 15:53 |
| schestowitz | It's a shame | May 16 15:53 |
| cubezzz | they do talk about Apple | May 16 15:53 |
| schestowitz | Linux is commodity | May 16 15:53 |
| schestowitz | So nobody sells "Linux" | May 16 15:53 |
| schestowitz | They sell Ubuntu | May 16 15:53 |
| schestowitz | Android | May 16 15:53 |
| schestowitz | WebOS | May 16 15:53 |
| schestowitz | TiVo | May 16 15:53 |
| schestowitz | .. | May 16 15:53 |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, there's a few companies who sell coreboot with their systems | May 16 15:54 |
| cubezzz | and there's more and more development, 215 mainboards now | May 16 15:54 |
| cubezzz | you want FOSS bios, you can get it | May 16 15:54 |
| cubezzz | the firmware layer is the last layer people don't know about | May 16 15:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] "Do I feel myself to be morally superior and therefore absolved of total tooldom? Of course I do." http://is.gd/cbDkX HT @nyecamden | May 16 15:57 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Thank you, YouTube, for 2.5-hour playlists of Peppa Pig to keep the toddler amused. | May 16 16:01 | |
| schestowitz | We're soon reaching 10000th post in Techrights | May 16 16:17 |
| schestowitz | I ought to arrange a way of sustaining use of time I have for the site | May 16 16:17 |
| schestowitz | I don't want to beg for donations | May 16 16:18 |
| kevin009 | it is so nice that the frictional guys released the hpl engine open source | May 16 16:18 |
| kevin009 | that thing is amazing. hopefully some people will build more games on it | May 16 16:19 |
| schestowitz | there are many free/libe game engines | May 16 16:21 |
| schestowitz | What's hpl? | May 16 16:21 |
| schestowitz | *libre | May 16 16:21 |
| kevin009 | the one with the advanced physics and lighting | May 16 16:22 |
| kevin009 | used in the games penumbra | May 16 16:22 |
| schestowitz | http://www.mobygames.com/game-group/3d-engine-hpl | May 16 16:22 |
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| schestowitz | *I see now | May 16 16:22 |
| schestowitz | Many engines will enentually be free | May 16 16:22 |
| schestowitz | For the same reasons rendering engines are | May 16 16:22 |
| schestowitz | For PDF, HTML, etc. | May 16 16:22 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft almost used Webkit in Mobile | May 16 16:23 |
| schestowitz | They withdrew some days ago | May 16 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Maybe renamed it | May 16 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Collaboration beats work in isolation. It would be nice to see Carmack inspiration there | May 16 16:23 |
| kevin009 | and hopefully the doom 3 engine will come out soon, because this project will really take off. www.thedarkmod.com | May 16 16:24 |
| cubezzz | what sort of hardware would hpl need? | May 16 16:24 |
| kevin009 | minimum specs are 1 ghz and 256 megs of ram with a radeon 8500 or bette | May 16 16:24 |
| kevin009 | better* | May 16 16:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Seems mental that I have to wait 14 days after deleting my facebook account for it to actually, y'know, delete. | May 16 16:27 | |
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| kevin009 | i'm sure they keep it longer than that internally | May 16 16:28 |
| cubezzz | I think 8500 is supported in the open radeon driver | May 16 16:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @pranesh_prakash: Eben Moglen: Freedom In the Cloud http://ff.im/-kq7Qa | May 16 16:30 | |
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| cubezzz | ah, now I remember | May 16 16:33 |
| cubezzz | I could never compile xf86-video-ati because of xorg-macros being too old | May 16 16:33 |
| schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/05/google-encrypted-search/ | May 16 16:35 |
| Techrights | Title: Google to Offer Encrypted Search Next Week | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 69.58 KB | May 16 16:35 |
| schestowitz | http://www.thebigmoney.com/blogs/shifting-gears/2010/05/12/ford-has-microsoft-now-gm-hasgoogle | May 16 16:37 |
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| schestowitz | Someone told me about this | May 16 16:37 |
| schestowitz | I hadn't paid attention | May 16 16:37 |
| schestowitz | GM to use Linux.. | May 16 16:38 |
| schestowitz | In cars | May 16 16:38 |
| cubezzz | cool :) | May 16 16:40 |
| schestowitz | http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/15/facebook-google/ | May 16 16:42 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: I'll do a post about this GM thing | May 16 16:42 |
| schestowitz | "bing" - no news found this week | May 16 16:44 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] This discussion is amazing me for all the wrong reasons. http://is.gd/cbGSU | May 16 16:50 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.techeye.net/hardware/price-war-looms-in-desktop-monitor-market | May 16 16:55 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* http://newstechnica.com/2010/05/06/wrong-lizards-get-in/ | May 16 16:57 |
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| schestowitz | Ike madman | May 16 16:57 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I'm still happy with that 26" LCD I got with the Bush bribe check in 2008 :) | May 16 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | it's nice enough | May 16 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | it kind of overwhelmed me at first, one hell of a large image when going from a 17" CRT :P | May 16 17:05 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: can you provide me w/ comment on http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/apr2010/tc20100414_633573.htm | May 16 17:06 |
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| schestowitz | I suppose you also heard the GM-lInux news | May 16 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: It's a small improvement over Vista, but you'd be doing a lot better to get a RAM upgrade or a new CPU and sticking with Vista if that's what you already have | May 16 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | CPUs get pretty damned cheap if you get them as an OEM part thats a couple years old | May 16 17:09 |
| schestowitz | ok, thanks | May 16 17:10 |
| schestowitz | I'm preparing some long articles | May 16 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | I remember I got a system in 2005 with a Sempron 3100+ and by 2006, I upgraded to a Athlon64 3400+ for about $20 | May 16 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | I saw a nice across the board performance improvement of well over 30% | May 16 17:10 |
| schestowitz | Board changes? | May 16 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | Vista to Windows 7 will speed your PC up about 5% and cost at least $120 | May 16 17:11 |
| schestowitz | EULA problems sometimes | May 16 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | nope | May 16 17:11 |
| schestowitz | Wrestling with codes and stuff | May 16 17:11 |
| schestowitz | I remember installing WIndows 3.11 | May 16 17:11 |
| schestowitz | Back then you got the computers with DOS | May 16 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | it's better to upgrade a Vista era PC with more RAM and a new CPU than with a copy of Windows 7 | May 16 17:11 |
| cubezzz | back when? :) | May 16 17:11 |
| schestowitz | You'd have to sit there changing floppies to install | May 16 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | you'll pay half as much and get a much better performance increase | May 16 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | that's my opinion | May 16 17:12 |
| schestowitz | Assuming no bad sectors, which sometimes occur | May 16 17:12 |
| cubezzz | you mean back when I was using AmigaDOS? :) | May 16 17:12 |
| schestowitz | THen there was the code | May 16 17:12 |
| schestowitz | That's what I'm getting at | May 16 17:12 |
| schestowitz | The whole, secret hologram thingie on the package | May 16 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The worst part about upgrading the CPU is getting the old one out | May 16 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | you're supposed to put on a thin layer of thermal paste but OEMs like to glob it on like a coating of cement | May 16 17:13 |
| cubezzz | lol, not really | May 16 17:13 |
| cubezzz | ever try slot 1? | May 16 17:13 |
| cubezzz | edge connector! | May 16 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Both were Socket 755 I believe | May 16 17:13 |
| cubezzz | no bent pins that way | May 16 17:13 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: back when I migrated to Windows | May 16 17:13 |
| schestowitz | Many, many years ago | May 16 17:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Computer security warning for vehicle manufacturers http://is.gd/cbIyz | May 16 17:13 | |
| cubezzz | bah | May 16 17:13 |
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| cubezzz | that was the dark ages then | May 16 17:14 |
| schestowitz | DOS didn't run some stuff | May 16 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | I wanted a dual core CPU, but those only started with Socket 939 boards | May 16 17:14 |
| schestowitz | It was getting long int he tooth | May 16 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | so I just got the best single core CPU I could find for it :) | May 16 17:14 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know abut OS/2 | May 16 17:14 |
| schestowitz | The Macs did better though, just pricey | May 16 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Intel CPUs are the worst | May 16 17:15 |
| schestowitz | My first computer had CGA display | May 16 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | if you fuck up installing an Intel CPU, you bend the pins on the CPU | May 16 17:15 |
| schestowitz | colours, not just 2!! | May 16 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Or 1 (binary) | May 16 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | if you fuck up installing an AMD, you bend the pins on the motherboard | May 16 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | CPUs are usually more expensive than the board you're installing them in | May 16 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | so your potential for an expensive mistake is greater with an Intel CPU | May 16 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Why not rely on assemblers? | May 16 17:16 |
| cubezzz | Intel invented the microprocessor guys... | May 16 17:16 |
| schestowitz | They do it skillfully and have liability | May 16 17:16 |
| cubezzz | you can't just say "they are the worst" it's not true | May 16 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: They also charge unfair prices | May 16 17:16 |
| schestowitz | I heard on Linux Action Show how much of a PITA it can be returning faulty hardware | May 16 17:16 |
| schestowitz | No refunds, even if it's bad out it the box | May 16 17:17 |
| schestowitz | *of | May 16 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | they'll do a 10 minute CPU install and charge you $60 for an hour of labor | May 16 17:17 |
| MinceR | and the only thing that matters about a CPU is how easy it is to install, right? | May 16 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think the potential for me to screw up is great enough to pay someone to put in a new CPU | May 16 17:17 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: That's one thing | May 16 17:17 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: depends on definition | May 16 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | I just don't like Intel in general | May 16 17:17 |
| schestowitz | Microprocessors were not invented overnight | May 16 17:17 |
| cubezzz | why not? | May 16 17:17 |
| schestowitz | Same with "computer:" | May 16 17:18 |
| cubezzz | I want to know your reasons | May 16 17:18 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel | May 16 17:18 |
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| schestowitz | "Founded 1968 1" | May 16 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | the only thing they have right now is the performance advantage in insanely overpriced CPUs | May 16 17:18 |
| schestowitz | You already had transistors | May 16 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | if you want to pay double to get 20% faster CPU than AMD, good for you | May 16 17:18 |
| schestowitz | Maybe not silicon | May 16 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see that as a good deal | May 16 17:18 |
| schestowitz | "Intel Corporation (NASDAQ: INTC; SEHK: 4335; Euronext: INCO) is the inventor of the x86 series of microprocessors," | May 16 17:18 |
| schestowitz | Not the same | May 16 17:18 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microprocessors | May 16 17:19 |
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| DaemonFC | Intel has shoddy quality control as well | May 16 17:19 |
| schestowitz | "Three projects delivered a microprocessor at about the same time, namely Intel's 4004, the Texas Instruments (TI) TMS 1000, and Garrett AiResearch's Central Air Data Computer (CADC)." | May 16 17:19 |
| MinceR | amd has shoddier quality control | May 16 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | and has tried to cover up bad designs many times in the past | May 16 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | it's just too unreliable to trust them | May 16 17:19 |
| *schestowitz uses AMD, always | May 16 17:19 | |
| DaemonFC | price issue aside | May 16 17:19 |
| cubezzz | dudes, I still run a 8085 sometimes | May 16 17:19 |
| cubezzz | it's from 1983, maybe even older | May 16 17:19 |
| cubezzz | and it still works | May 16 17:20 |
| cubezzz | so ... :) | May 16 17:20 |
| schestowitz | http://www.techtree.com/India/News/Microsoft_to_launch_Project_Natal_in_October/551-111123-585.html | May 16 17:20 |
| schestowitz | Vapourware | May 16 17:20 |
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| schestowitz | They have spoken about it for how long?? | May 16 17:20 |
| cubezzz | my dual p3's still work fine | May 16 17:20 |
| schestowitz | Wiiiii-novating | May 16 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | in the low to upper midrange PC market, AMD wins every time | May 16 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | clearly | May 16 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | and that's usually the range I buy in :) | May 16 17:21 |
| *schestowitz very pleased with AMD | May 16 17:21 | |
| MinceR | ever since i decided that i'll dare to choose an AMD, nobody offered it to me | May 16 17:21 |
| schestowitz | My laptop before that had AMD too | May 16 17:21 |
| schestowitz | 400Mhz | May 16 17:21 |
| schestowitz | I used it till 2005 | May 16 17:21 |
| MinceR | (i think i only bought notebooks since then) | May 16 17:21 |
| cubezzz | I'm not knocking AMD but.. I can't really say I've had bad experiences with Intel | May 16 17:21 |
| MinceR | AMD was obviously a non-starter for the netbook | May 16 17:21 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: crimes | May 16 17:21 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: not ture | May 16 17:21 |
| schestowitz | OLPC | May 16 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Intel attacked them | May 16 17:22 |
| schestowitz | See OLPC info | May 16 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | It's just one of those "It's not the best X in the world, but it's the best X you're going to get below Y dollars" things | May 16 17:22 |
| schestowitz | It was AMD, now ARM | May 16 17:22 |
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| schestowitz | Hey, Omar87 | May 16 17:22 |
| schestowitz | wb | May 16 17:22 |
| cubezzz | Intel even made an ARM cpu | May 16 17:22 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: what's not true? | May 16 17:22 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, hey! | May 16 17:22 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, 'sup? | May 16 17:22 |
| Omar87 | Hello folks. | May 16 17:22 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that AMD is a non-starter on technical grounds for sub-notebooks | May 16 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Unless you meant non-starter in another sense | May 16 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | oh, schestowitz, we got the trash issue resolved now :) | May 16 17:23 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: intel offers GPUs with free drivers for them, AMD doesn't | May 16 17:23 |
| schestowitz | AMD was gonna address netbooks some months ago, it said | May 16 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | weekly pickup and everyone gets to pay another $15 a month | May 16 17:23 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: since they're low-power, such low-end GPUs are an option | May 16 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | for trash pickup and "other purposes" | May 16 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 16 17:23 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: sub-notebooks != gaming boxes | May 16 17:23 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: also, not many manufacturers dare to offer AMD CPUs anywhere | May 16 17:23 |
| schestowitz | Iran | May 16 17:23 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: i never said they were gaming boxes | May 16 17:23 |
| schestowitz | gaming boxes=toys=Windows | May 16 17:24 |
| MinceR | not true | May 16 17:24 |
| schestowitz | AMD runs Linux OK for me | May 16 17:24 |
| schestowitz | I get good diagnotics too | May 16 17:24 |
| MinceR | sure, so does nvidia | May 16 17:24 |
| MinceR | but there are many problems | May 16 17:24 |
| MinceR | and there are even more problems with amd/ati | May 16 17:24 |
| cubezzz | no closed source is my main rule | May 16 17:24 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I use AMD+Nv | May 16 17:25 |
| cubezzz | if I can do that on intel, fine | May 16 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: AMD processors and Linux get along well | May 16 17:25 |
| cubezzz | if I can do that on AMD, also fine :) | May 16 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | ATI GPU is where you get problems | May 16 17:25 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: intel GPUs and AMD CPUs don't, though | May 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I never had fried AMD... | May 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz | In over 10 years | May 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz | Just bad hard-drives | May 16 17:25 |
| schestowitz | Hitachi/IBM | May 16 17:25 |
| cubezzz | k6... | May 16 17:26 |
| MinceR | well, i've never fried a CPU either, but i've read about AMD issues _long ago_ | May 16 17:26 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I'll let you know when I have a mobo issue... _when_ | May 16 17:26 |
| cubezzz | lots of bad k6's | May 16 17:26 |
| schestowitz | yeah | May 16 17:26 |
| schestowitz | nvidia had fab issues too | May 16 17:26 |
| MinceR | indeed | May 16 17:26 |
| schestowitz | 8600s and 8400s IIRC | May 16 17:26 |
| schestowitz | I have one one of those | May 16 17:26 |
| schestowitz | Knock on v000dooo | May 16 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | Mesa 8.0 will be the turning point for ATI hardware on Linux without Catalyst | May 16 17:27 |
| cubezzz | the longest lasting computer I've ever owned was the Tyan based one | May 16 17:27 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: you need the latest sh** :-) | May 16 17:27 |
| schestowitz | You run ancient OSes | May 16 17:28 |
| schestowitz | No patches | May 16 17:28 |
| schestowitz | Security threat | May 16 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | the biggest thing holding the free drivers back is the lack of OpenGL 3.x support | May 16 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | that's what I noted when I tried using them | May 16 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | everything else works well or at least works :) | May 16 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed that the card draws a lot more power when using Catalyst than with the free drivers | May 16 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | even idling | May 16 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | so laptop users want the free drivers because those will probably add a few minutes of battery life for them | May 16 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The end of that article was funny where he wanted the Small Business Edition Windows 7 with old application support | May 16 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | I recall Microsoft's answer being a copy of Windows XP in a VM | May 16 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 16 17:31 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: hard of Steam? | May 16 17:36 |
| schestowitz | *heard | May 16 17:37 |
| schestowitz | That ought to motivate better drivers for Linux | May 16 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | yes, it will be interesting to see what games they offer | May 16 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | they can't port the third party stuff obviously | May 16 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | another issue is that they can give up and leave at any moment | May 16 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | Loki thought there was a market, but the problem is that the Linux market is tiny, only a percentage of them have any interest in gaming, and if half of them go and download off of bittorrent, there's less profit to be had in bothering to support Linux than it's costing you to support Linux | May 16 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | so while many millions of freeloaders will never kill the Windows gaming market, it only takes a few tens of thousands to kill all incentive to support Linux in one way or another | May 16 17:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Twitpic is becoming unreliable......think I'll use something else from now on... | May 16 17:41 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Devpac 2 - A500 and UAE! Things were so much better in those days! Im back with the Amiga! http://twitpic.com/1odfod | May 16 17:41 | |
| Techrights | Title: Devpac 2 - A500 and UAE! Things were so much better in those ... on Twitpic .::. Size~: 7.51 KB | May 16 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | so I'm glad to see Steam for Linux but skeptical that it will stay around, all of their predecessors went belly up or started imposing unreasonable DRM | May 16 17:42 |
| MinceR | steam starts with unreasonable DRM | May 16 17:44 |
| MinceR | nothing about DRM is reasonable anyway | May 16 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Well, I don't think anyone would argue that 3 activations then buy a new copy is reasonable | May 16 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | (EA) | May 16 17:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Eve was framed. http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/05/sunday_sacrilege_daughters_of.php | May 16 17:45 | |
| Techrights | Title: Sunday Sacrilege: Daughters of Eve : Pharyngula .::. Size~: 118.37 KB | May 16 17:45 |
| schestowitz | http://www.crn.com/software/224800057 | May 16 17:46 |
| Techrights | Title: Microsoft Response Point VoIP Gets A Dirt Nap - Software - IT Channel News by CRN .::. Size~: 79.95 KB | May 16 17:46 |
| schestowitz | Aother dead product | May 16 17:46 |
| schestowitz | They come every week now | May 16 17:47 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: not true about games | May 16 17:47 |
| schestowitz | Linux gamers are richer | May 16 17:47 |
| schestowitz | And they donate more | May 16 17:47 |
| schestowitz | THey are better educated | May 16 17:47 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Messing around with copper bars! Taking to retro like a fish to water...... #amiga #68k #assembly | May 16 17:47 | |
| schestowitz | See those latest numbers showing Linux users twice as generous as Windows users | May 16 17:47 |
| schestowitz | [17:44] <MinceR> nothing about DRM is reasonable anyway | May 16 17:48 |
| schestowitz | I'd rather they accept DRM on some blog for Linux than do the same under Vista/Vista7 | May 16 17:48 |
| schestowitz | /blog/blob/ | May 16 17:48 |
| schestowitz | They don't care about freedom in the first place, so.... might as well entice them over | May 16 17:48 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Today there was the Great Manchester 10k run... 40,000 people running, including Gabriel Selassie. Next week I get a trophy for Mr. Fitness. | May 16 17:52 | |
| schestowitz | Oops. Gebre. | May 16 17:53 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: agreed | May 16 17:53 |
| MinceR | DRMed crap on GNU/Linux is preferable to DRMed crap on winblows | May 16 17:54 |
| schestowitz | My brother is only starting to learn about freedom | May 16 17:54 |
| schestowitz | A lot of people just watch 'mass media' | May 16 17:54 |
| schestowitz | They don't have understanding which is easy for some of us to assume | May 16 17:54 |
| MinceR | also, buying DRMed crap for GNU/Linux and then torrenting and using a cracked version of it is preferable to doing the same on winblows :> | May 16 17:54 |
| schestowitz | That's why many people buy iPods and pay $1 for a bottle of water with acids and sugar | May 16 17:55 |
| schestowitz | plastic+monopoly+unhealthy sweeteners+overpaying for water based on images/labels | May 16 17:55 |
| schestowitz | I have found some good video from thestoryofstuff | May 16 17:56 |
| schestowitz | They have a sequel on the environmental implications of packaging including bottled water | May 16 17:56 |
| MinceR | i certainly prefer bottled mineral water of my choice to what comes out of the tap (worse taste, too much chlorine) | May 16 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Said to be similar quality, depending on where you live | May 16 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Hold on, will get you links | May 16 18:00 |
| schestowitz | http://storyofstuff.org/bottledwater/ | May 16 18:00 |
| Techrights | Title: The Story of Bottled Water .::. Size~: 11.39 KB | May 16 18:00 |
| schestowitz | I have come across a podcast too where it's explained | May 16 18:00 |
| MinceR | i can taste the difference | May 16 18:00 |
| schestowitz | FUD marketing... make tap water scary, sell elixir | May 16 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Be skeptical | May 16 18:00 |
| MinceR | also, remember that i'm talking about mineral water :> | May 16 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Same water | May 16 18:01 |
| MinceR | hardly | May 16 18:01 |
| schestowitz | Marketed with different images of springs | May 16 18:01 |
| MinceR | tap water is from local sources | May 16 18:01 |
| schestowitz | Pop is just normal tap water | May 16 18:01 |
| MinceR | the mineral water i prefer is from Zalaszentgrot, iirc | May 16 18:01 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: as I said, it depends where you live | May 16 18:01 |
| schestowitz | In Turkey I couldn't drink tap water | May 16 18:01 |
| schestowitz | In Lykia they instruct tourists not to | May 16 18:02 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: waste of fuel | May 16 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Putting water on trucks/boats | May 16 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Our water is the same stuff that we and fish uninate in | May 16 18:02 |
| MinceR | maybe for those who lack tastebuds | May 16 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Some stuff sinks, some evaporates to cleanse self | May 16 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Some places have more toxins in the ground | May 16 18:03 |
| MinceR | the composition of salts is different | May 16 18:03 |
| schestowitz | But how much does out body use/interact with these? | May 16 18:03 |
| schestowitz | They are small in amount | May 16 18:03 |
| MinceR | plenty | May 16 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Why do channels like Discovery and National Geographic spend most of the week going over real, scientific programs, and then switch over to programs where a guy goes walking through the desert looking for biblical artifacts? | May 16 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | you ever notice that? | May 16 18:04 |
| MinceR | K+ and Na+ ions are used a lot, for example :> | May 16 18:04 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: maybe religious lobbies | May 16 18:04 |
| schestowitz | Some of those channels promote superstition with ghosts stories | May 16 18:04 |
| schestowitz | It's excellent for ratings | May 16 18:04 |
| schestowitz | Montell and Oprah do that fraud/junk science a lot | May 16 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | "Search for Noah's Ark" followed by "Looking for the Martians that lived at Atlantis" | May 16 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 16 18:05 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: they put Windows in the History Channel you say | May 16 18:05 |
| schestowitz | They know Windows is gonna be history :-) | May 16 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't say the program brought to you by Windows 7 now btw | May 16 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | now it's "HD provided by Windows 7" | May 16 18:06 |
| _Goblin | does anyone have any info or links on the Flatfish BBS theft? - Ive been contacted regarding it and looking for other sources. | May 16 18:06 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I225Vcs3X0g | May 16 18:06 |
| Techrights | Title: YouTube- Atheist Comedy - The Great Flood .::. Size~: 98.81 KB | May 16 18:06 |
| schestowitz | very funny | May 16 18:06 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: see the post in Techrights | May 16 18:06 |
| schestowitz | It links to the post with info | May 16 18:07 |
| _Goblin | ah...google didn't show me anything... | May 16 18:07 |
| _Goblin | I'll try again | May 16 18:07 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2009/01/02/gary-stewart-flatfish-troll-unmasked/ | May 16 18:07 |
| Techrights | Title: Gary M. Stewart (aka “Flatfish”) About Microsoft AstroTurfing: “Its made me A LOT of money&.” | Techrights .::. Size~: 133.67 KB | May 16 18:07 |
| _Goblin | thank! | May 16 18:07 |
| _Goblin | *s | May 16 18:07 |
| schestowitz | They tried to poison the well with a fake message to | May 16 18:07 |
| schestowitz | *too | May 16 18:07 |
| schestowitz | I crossed that out | May 16 18:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Just landed in Detroit on my way back home. Fun day yesterday with the family and now ready for home. :-) | May 16 18:07 | |
| schestowitz | http://fixunix.com/linux/47967-gary-stewart-c-24-60-155-178-hsd1-ma-comcast-net.html | May 16 18:09 |
| Techrights | Title: Gary Stewart on c-24-60-155-178.hsd1.ma.comcast.net - Unix Linux Forum - Fixunix.com .::. Size~: 42.62 KB | May 16 18:09 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: | May 16 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Gary Stewart's (aka Moshe/Flatfish) House... | May 16 18:10 |
| schestowitz | From: | May 16 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> | May 16 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Date: | May 16 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Tuesday 20 Oct 2009 03:16:45 | May 16 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Groups: | May 16 18:10 |
| schestowitz | comp.os.linux.advocacy | May 16 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Followup-To: | May 16 18:10 |
| schestowitz | comp.os.linux.advocacy | May 16 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Gary got a little sloppy. It gave away him IP address and the full location of the thug's house: | May 16 18:10 |
| schestowitz | http://whatismyipaddress.com/staticpages/index.php/ip-details?ip=24.46.85.122 | May 16 18:10 |
| schestowitz | In case someone wants to sue the Munchkin... | May 16 18:10 |
| Techrights | Title: IP Address: 24.46.85.122 .::. Size~: 7.02 KB | May 16 18:10 |
| _Goblin | Im being careful of fake messages, but the one that interests me is someone Ive known for a long while (and in person) from the US. | May 16 18:11 |
| schestowitz | From the Munchkins who spread libel about me | May 16 18:11 |
| schestowitz | Like being "arrested", "castrated", and other lies | May 16 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | that last part was funny | May 16 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | "How many animals can you fit into a pair of panty hose?" "Ten little piggies, two calves, a beaver, and an ass" | May 16 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | P | May 16 18:13 |
| schestowitz | http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/handheld/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=224701316 | May 16 18:13 |
| Techrights | Title: HP WebOS Tablet In Q3, Report Says -- InformationWeek .::. Size~: 86.45 KB | May 16 18:13 |
| schestowitz | http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/05/06/1428829/nintendo-profit-drops-for-first.html | May 16 18:15 |
| Techrights | Title: Nintendo profit drops for first time in 6 years - CharlotteObserver.com .::. Size~: 78.39 KB | May 16 18:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Stuck on the plane, the jet bridge is on the blink. Happy days! | May 16 18:18 | |
| DaemonFC | yay, MSBBC America | May 16 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 16 18:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] The inmates are getting restless. A Guy is complaining so much that his over-generous neck skin is doing the can-can for all to see. | May 16 18:21 | |
| DaemonFC | I kind of wonder why they need to feed us an entirely different channel | May 16 18:22 |
| schestowitz | http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/05/13/businessinsider-all-the-companies-that-ever-tried-to-buy-facebook-2010-5.DTL | May 16 18:22 |
| Techrights | Title: The 11 Companies That Tried To Buy Facebook .::. Size~: 106.89 KB | May 16 18:22 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know they had spurned so many | May 16 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | that satellite is undoubtedly carrying other BBC channels that my box won't let me watch | May 16 18:22 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: there's news about msnbc | May 16 18:23 |
| schestowitz | I'll post it tomorrow | May 16 18:23 |
| schestowitz | They gre closer | May 16 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: It's weird to watch BBC America | May 16 18:23 |
| schestowitz | I know | May 16 18:23 |
| schestowitz | BBC is defended as credible here | May 16 18:23 |
| schestowitz | But it's not | May 16 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | cause it's all news stories about the US done up by reporters with British accents | May 16 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | I guess it's CNN with comic relief | May 16 18:24 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: they'll tell you "the recession is over" :0-) | May 16 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | one of them is | May 16 18:24 |
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| schestowitz | http://uk.xboxlive.ign.com/articles/108/1089329p1.html | May 16 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | they ended the recession caused by white collar criminal bankers by giving them public money and not sending them to jail | May 16 18:24 |
| schestowitz | DRM traps | May 16 18:25 |
| Techrights | Title: IGN Xbox Live Arcade Games Cheats, News, Reviews, and Previews .::. Size~: 146.53 KB | May 16 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | the NAFTA recession is still ongoing | May 16 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | exposed by the other recession | May 16 18:25 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: good for them | May 16 18:25 |
| schestowitz | In Europe we print another trillion Euro | May 16 18:25 |
| schestowitz | Not 1 | May 16 18:25 |
| schestowitz | 0.9something | May 16 18:25 |
| schestowitz | So it feels more affordable | May 16 18:25 |
| schestowitz | I had a chat about it with a friend earlir | May 16 18:25 |
| schestowitz | Some friends of mine have family and debt | May 16 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | like it was $987 billion dollars | May 16 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | not $1 trillion dollars | May 16 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 16 18:26 |
| schestowitz | If they drop their jobs, they're ****** | May 16 18:26 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: do they measure it with the word "billion" | May 16 18:26 |
| schestowitz | Not the T word | May 16 18:26 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: they can do it twice, then it's just "over a trillion" | May 16 18:27 |
| schestowitz | US has used up about $400bn already | May 16 18:27 |
| schestowitz | And it's still bad, debt withstanding | May 16 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | they try not to ever sign into law anything costing over a trillion dollars | May 16 18:27 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: installments :-) | May 16 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | if they need a trillion dollars for anything, they pass it as two bills for $500 billion dollars each | May 16 18:27 |
| schestowitz | "X easy payments of Y!!!" | May 16 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | or 3, or 4, .... | May 16 18:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] When Sophie (6) saw the #ubuntu #uds group photo she asked "Are there any girls there?" http://bit.ly/bgxBTu I counted only about 13 :( | May 16 18:28 | |
| Techrights | Title: Flickr Photo Download: Maverick UDS Group Photo, quick version .::. Size~: 4.77 KB | May 16 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | it's on the Easy Slave system | May 16 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: QVC and other home shopping channels like to focus on the "easy pay installments" to get you past the sticker shock | May 16 18:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] The jet bridge is fixed and 'The Delta 260' are free! | May 16 18:29 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @popey not just a FOSS issue | May 16 18:29 | |
| DaemonFC | you're not thinking "This is X percent of my income over the next 6 months" | May 16 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Home Shopping channels make me laugh | May 16 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | That's why I call it Easy Slave installments | May 16 18:29 |
| schestowitz | I soemtimes think the only people who use their time watching them (brainwash by choice) watch them for kicks, like me | May 16 18:29 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: they come in pairs, "one ABSOLUTELY free!" | May 16 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Only $99.99 in 9 "Easy" payments | May 16 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: My attitude is that if I can't afford to pay for something with cash on hand, I don't need it | May 16 18:30 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: if we did hex, you know what they'd say? | May 16 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | I'll save up for something, but I don't put myself in debt | May 16 18:31 |
| schestowitz | Just $ff.ff!! | May 16 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | you never know what will happen over the next 6 months | May 16 18:31 |
| schestowitz | hexadecimal is f**** | May 16 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | you could sign up for 6 Easy Slave payments of $200 and then lose your job | May 16 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | right? | May 16 18:31 |
| schestowitz | Me? No | May 16 18:31 |
| schestowitz | I never lost a job | May 16 18:31 |
| schestowitz | I always leave by choice | May 16 18:32 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Having a bit of fun with moshe in comp.os.linux.advocacy..... | May 16 18:32 | |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: don't give him much attention. It feeds the Munchkins | May 16 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | well, I mean, if you save up $200 a month and buy something, then you own it outright, and if something happens between now and then, you still have all that money | May 16 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | they act like you'll die if you don't have a new TV set to replace your working and not quite as fancy TV set RIGHT NOW | May 16 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | and that's their job | May 16 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 16 18:33 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, you should be embarassed | May 16 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Your mates will see your very small........... TV | May 16 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | how so? | May 16 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | ahhh | May 16 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | 32 inches is a respectable size | May 16 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Man up, buy a big car and TV | May 16 18:33 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, if you need glasses | May 16 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | I'd hate to be one of those poor bastards that could only get the 26 inch :P | May 16 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | but there's always the 60 inch | May 16 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | the Viagra model TV set | May 16 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 16 18:34 |
| schestowitz | I gave away my TV pleasures | May 16 18:34 |
| schestowitz | Other people enjoy it more | May 16 18:34 |
| schestowitz | I want interactive, proper | May 16 18:34 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: expensive to fix, carry, pay for electricity | May 16 18:35 |
| schestowitz | Plasma TVs go/have gone illegal in EU (environmental reasons) | May 16 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | they're not popular here | May 16 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | you can get a nicer LED or LCD that uses less electricity for the same price | May 16 18:35 |
| schestowitz | http://www.businessweek.com/idg/2010-05-13/wall-street-beat-turmoil-continues-despite-tech-sales-gains.html | May 16 18:36 |
| Techrights | Title: Wall Street Beat: Turmoil continues despite tech sales gains - BusinessWeek .::. Size~: 50.43 KB | May 16 18:36 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: but plasma is a better word | May 16 18:36 |
| schestowitz | like "Cloud" | May 16 18:36 |
| schestowitz | It impresses the mates | May 16 18:36 |
| schestowitz | "me gots plasma" | May 16 18:36 |
| schestowitz | My dad has one | May 16 18:36 |
| schestowitz | TV brings emptiness... like falling asleep watching some mind-numbing Eurosports | May 16 18:37 |
| schestowitz | DVD you can just play on a computer | May 16 18:37 |
| schestowitz | Just get a decent monitor/s | May 16 18:37 |
| MinceR | you can even watch TV on a computer | May 16 18:38 |
| MinceR | i do | May 16 18:38 |
| schestowitz | I have 4 monitors here in my apartment, some crappy ones though | May 16 18:38 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: why would you though? | May 16 18:39 |
| schestowitz | The computer gives more control - keyboard, Net connection, etc. | May 16 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | you can watch computer on your TV as well :) | May 16 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | amazing technology isn't it? :) | May 16 18:39 |
| schestowitz | It's like playing radio (tuner) on your new stereo | May 16 18:39 |
| schestowitz | I'd rather pop CDs in | May 16 18:39 |
| schestowitz | I no longer use CDs though, I use minirok these days | May 16 18:40 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz: because my computers have far better displays than my tv :> | May 16 18:43 |
| MinceR | and because it's in my room | May 16 18:43 |
| MinceR | etc. | May 16 18:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TdEYqOZY_E&feature=digest | May 16 18:56 |
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| schestowitz | The more militant feminists annoy the rest | May 16 18:56 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: families use to watch TVs together | May 16 18:56 |
| schestowitz | In living rooms | May 16 18:56 |
| schestowitz | Now each kid has a set | May 16 18:56 |
| schestowitz | They watch in isolation, they might as well use LCDs | May 16 18:57 |
| MinceR | there are lcd tvs :> | May 16 18:57 |
| MinceR | at least having more tvs lessens the conflicts about what to watch | May 16 18:57 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7eLiwH-n7s&feature=digest | May 16 19:10 |
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| schestowitz | generalises excellently to all pop BS 'stars' | May 16 19:10 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the TVs are bigger | May 16 19:10 |
| schestowitz | And underused in the sense that it's just for video | May 16 19:11 |
| schestowitz | [with exception in smarter TVs/cable] | May 16 19:11 |
| MinceR | and i sit closer to the computer display :> | May 16 19:11 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] "The sight of a feather in a peacock's tail, whenever I gaze at it, makes me sick!" wrote C. Darwin to botanist Asa Gray on April 3, 1860. | May 16 19:35 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Map of active volcanoes. http://is.gd/cbTyn | May 16 19:37 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] "To suppose, that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances could have been formed by natural selection, (cont) http://tl.gd/1b1o4p | May 16 19:44 | |
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| _Goblin | hi Jono! | May 16 19:47 |
| jono | hey _Goblin :) | May 16 19:47 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] At the gate waiting for my flight to San Francisco, playing with Shotwell. Rather nice! :-) | May 16 19:51 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] My mobile phone is broken and I haven't found a spare to put the SIM into yet. I do check my email a lot, though. dgerard@gmail.com. | May 16 20:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Just noticed that the interview Amber did with me at UDS is online - http://is.gd/cbWNg - may be of interest to some of you #ubuntu | May 16 20:17 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Laters all, heading back to San Fran. Can't wait to be home! :-) | May 16 20:28 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Holy crap, just met Chris Kontos ex-Machine Head and Konkhra, nice dude, gonna get in touch with him when I am back. | May 16 20:42 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] "5 Ways Small Businesses Can Use Tech to Save Money" - One of them...Go open source! http://tinyurl.com/39dv2ht #microsoft #foss #linux #gnu | May 16 20:43 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Ubuntu 10.10 to ship with Chromium! http://tinyurl.com/39do43g Its a great browser, been using it with my distro for some time now! #linux | May 16 21:10 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] The process of political change in Thailand http://is.gd/cc1E9 | May 16 21:17 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @orissaconcerns D Raja’s Letter To Prime Minister Of India http://bit.ly/cRDJVc | May 16 21:24 | |
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| DaemonFC | went to the supermarket and spent 5 times more than planned | May 16 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | happens every time :P | May 16 21:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] How sad. Wr r u? RT @santhoshtr: midnight . waiting for cousins bike at nh 213. nobody around. | May 16 21:27 | |
| DaemonFC | oh hell no | May 16 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | this guy in this cheesy Syfy channel movie stole a line from Predator | May 16 21:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @Countercurrents: Orissa: Miners Paradise http://bit.ly/9Sz6rA #orissaconcerns | May 16 21:29 | |
| DaemonFC | "If it bleeds, we can kill it" | May 16 21:29 |
| MinceR | that's a good line to steal | May 16 21:29 |
| *MinceR steals it all the time | May 16 21:29 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Audacious does not seem to like .mod files :( (and thats every version I've tried) #linux #foss #amiga #soundtracker #gnu #mod | May 16 21:31 | |
| ThistleWeb | _Goblin: mod files are the winamp themes right? | May 16 21:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | ThistleWeb: no, they're tracker files | May 16 21:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | and audacious does them fine | May 16 21:32 |
| *Diablo-D3 plays one right now to prove it | May 16 21:32 | |
| ThistleWeb | oh, I got them mixed up, I was gonna say audacious does one version of winamp themse but not the other | May 16 21:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | it only does winamp2 themes, ie, xmms themes. | May 16 21:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | _Goblin: so yes, you're full of shit. | May 16 21:33 |
| MinceR | strange, it plays them fine for me | May 16 21:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | make sure you're actually building the modplug plugin | May 16 21:33 |
| MinceR | make sure you're actually _using_ the modplug plugin, too :> | May 16 21:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | _Goblin: seriously, troll less | May 16 21:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @nishan_n: Android getting onto cars : http://bit.ly/cwIM6l | May 16 21:34 | |
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| cubezzz | this looks interesting: | May 16 21:35 |
| cubezzz | http://distrowatch.com/5772 | May 16 21:35 |
| _Goblin | eh? | May 16 21:35 |
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| _Goblin | diablo-d3: Do you know what a mod file is? | May 16 21:35 |
| cubezzz | "VectorLinux Robert Lange has announced the release of VectorLinux 6.0 "KDE-Classic" edition: "The VectorLinux crew is proud to announce the final release of VectorLinux 6.0 KDE-Classic" | May 16 21:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | _Goblin: yes, I have several hundred megs of them | May 16 21:36 |
| _Goblin | diablo-d3: its an Amiga soundtracker file.... | May 16 21:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | Yes. Yes it is. | May 16 21:36 |
| cubezzz | MinceR, there's your distro if you want classic KDE | May 16 21:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | _Goblin: but apparently you dont know what modplug is. | May 16 21:36 |
| _Goblin | diablo-d3: so how it my experience of not getting them to work trolling? | May 16 21:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | _Goblin: [04:15:00] <Diablo-D3> and audacious does them fine | May 16 21:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | [04:15:06] * Diablo-D3 plays one right now to prove it | May 16 21:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | [04:15:52] <Diablo-D3> make sure you're actually building the modplug plugin | May 16 21:37 |
| _Goblin | diablo-d3: yes I do and since .mod files work with every other media player I have, Im at a loss to explain why Audacious wont play them... | May 16 21:37 |
| _Goblin | diablo-d3: I say wont....it does, but they are broken and distorted. | May 16 21:37 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: yes, if i want to pay for the distro i'm using :> | May 16 21:37 |
| _Goblin | diablo-d3: movie player, vlc all play them correctly....Audacious does not....since when does commenting about a problem = trolling? Maybe we should all just keep quiet when something doesn't work for us and suffer in silence? Grow up Diablo. | May 16 21:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | [04:15:06] * Diablo-D3 plays one right now to prove it | May 16 21:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | [04:15:06] * Diablo-D3 plays one right now to prove it | May 16 21:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | [04:15:06] * Diablo-D3 plays one right now to prove it | May 16 21:39 |
| MinceR | no need to flood, though | May 16 21:39 |
| _Goblin | Im not saying you don't diablo | May 16 21:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | [04:15:52] <Diablo-D3> make sure you're actually building the modplug plugin | May 16 21:39 |
| _Goblin | Im saying it DOESNT WORK FOR ME.....now who's trolling? | May 16 21:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | _Goblin: if it doesnt work for you you're the only person on the planet who it doesnt work for | May 16 21:40 |
| _Goblin | ok.... | May 16 21:40 |
| _Goblin | fine./ | May 16 21:40 |
| _Goblin | still doesn't change the fact that Audacious plays everything else perfectly... | May 16 21:40 |
| _Goblin | but not .mod files. | May 16 21:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | open the preferences dialog | May 16 21:40 |
| _Goblin | as I say, how is that trolling? | May 16 21:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | look at plugins | May 16 21:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | see of modplug exists and is enabled | May 16 21:40 |
| _Goblin | diablo-d3, you are not being helpful you are being silly.... | May 16 21:41 |
| _Goblin | its not a big deal...I still use Audacious for everything else. | May 16 21:41 |
| _Goblin | and thanks for your summary of every audacious user on the planet....Im sure you know them all personally. | May 16 21:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | I almost do. | May 16 21:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | and no, I am being helpful | May 16 21:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you didnt build the damned plugin, obviously it wont work | May 16 21:44 |
| _Goblin | diablo-d3: drop it. I see the level you work at and im not getting sucked in. | May 16 21:44 |
| _Goblin | diablo-d3: I will complain about what I want and you nor anyone else will stop me. Come back when you have a sucessful blog and we'll talk again. | May 16 21:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Apple 's "Cult Madness" Leads Journalist to #GNU #Linux Freedom http://ur1.ca/01ed2 | May 16 21:47 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Dell 's New "Tough" Sub-notebooks Comes With #GNU #Linux as Option http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2010/05/12/dell_latitude_2110/ | May 16 21:48 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right, after that silliness is over, modplugin is functioning correctly and audacious has no probs with any other Amiga tracker format.... | May 16 21:49 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Trying to make a bootable Ubuntu USB stick for debugging on an Apple Mac laptop. Not straightforward | May 16 21:49 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Any suggestions from people with sensible ideas (and more than 12 followers)......Wolvix distro.... | May 16 21:49 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Bizzare.....just checked 3 different .s3m files....no probs.....Just gone through 8 .mod's.....distortion and timeline skips. | May 16 21:52 | |
| DaemonFC | I wonder why Pandorum was rated so low | May 16 21:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Acer Said to be Launching More #GNU #Linux Devices Soon (Google's Version) http://ur1.ca/01efv | May 16 21:56 | |
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| _Goblin | the film? | May 16 21:56 |
| _Goblin | daemonfc: It was quiet good....(if you mean the film) | May 16 21:56 |
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| DaemonFC | _Goblin: Yes, but it was rated 1 star and sent straight to Starz | May 16 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | it's unusual that they don't pimp movies on Pay Per View, then they disappear, then 5 years later they show up on your "Premium" channels | May 16 22:03 |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC: I should have noticed the water dripping as a hint to the ending but didnt | May 16 22:04 |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC: I think what spoilt it a little for me was that it was a little too resident evil for my liking. | May 16 22:04 |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC: I was a big fan of Event Horizon and would have liked to have seen it follow a similar path to that. | May 16 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | _Goblin: Wasn't that the one where they try to develop a faster than light drive and it ends up opening a portal to a dimension of chaos and evil instead? | May 16 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 16 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, that was good | May 16 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | _Goblin: If something like that ever does get invented, I should hope they leave our solar system entirely before engaging the drive | May 16 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | at least until the testing is done :) | May 16 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | even a small "singularity" could wreak havoc on the entire solar system, including Earth, from as far out as Neptune | May 16 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | (the location in the movie) | May 16 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 16 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | the problem with such technology being that you don't know what it will do until it's turned on | May 16 22:11 |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC: yeah the film was about creating a singularity in order to travel the universe. | May 16 22:14 |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC: I liked the theme of haunted house in space. | May 16 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | well, the ship wasn't exactly self-aware though | May 16 22:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Still no joy...Ive been "told" every other user on the planet has no problems, maybe this is a fake screenshot? lo http://twitpic.com/1ofjet | May 16 22:15 | |
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| DaemonFC | and the "beings" were crossing back and forth through the drive, which was left open | May 16 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | right? | May 16 22:15 |
| _Goblin | not really.... | May 16 22:16 |
| _Goblin | the ship had become a living thing.... | May 16 22:16 |
| _Goblin | brought back a presence from another dimension | May 16 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | so it follows that destroying the drive with the emergency destruct system, then using the ship's surviving forward section as a lifeboat, may not necessarily mean you got rid of all of the beings | May 16 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | the ones already onboard would likely be pissed | May 16 22:16 |
| _Goblin | and was responding to the crew.... | May 16 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | and you're still trapped with them :) | May 16 22:17 |
| _Goblin | apparently there was going to be a sequal | May 16 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | ahhh | May 16 22:17 |
| _Goblin | mind you, after recieving the godawful transmission from the lost ship, you have to wonder the mentality of the crew going aboard. | May 16 22:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] The beeb at least they try. Watching programme about Picasso. During prog they show the same Apple laptop with and without logo on lid. | May 16 22:18 | |
| DaemonFC | well, they didn't get anything more than a distress call at first, right? | May 16 22:18 |
| _Goblin | I don't know about you but if I heard someone say "Save yourself from hell" and a load of screaming, there would be no way on earth I'd get on board. | May 16 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | it wasn't until they were onboard that they brought up the captain's log | May 16 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | that's when they saw what had become of the crew | May 16 22:18 |
| _Goblin | but they did get a dodgy transmission before finding the ship | May 16 22:19 |
| _Goblin | and it had been gone a number of years. | May 16 22:19 |
| _Goblin | I would have simply switched off the radio and reported that that we couldn't find it. | May 16 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | right, well, isn't there a relative time dilation? | May 16 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | that could factor in | May 16 22:19 |
| _Goblin | the living and real I can deal with....demons zombies and ghosts I draw the line. | May 16 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | maybe from the perspective of the crew, they engaged the drive and only a few minutes passed | May 16 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | but outside the ship, years have gone by | May 16 22:20 |
| _Goblin | yes I think you are right (thinking back to a Red Dwarf Ep) | May 16 22:20 |
| _Goblin | Rimmer World. | May 16 22:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Akademy 2010 and #KDE News, Advice http://ur1.ca/01ems http://ur1.ca/01emt http://ur1.ca/01emv | May 16 22:21 | |
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| DaemonFC | well, singularities and travel at the speed of light both have time dilation associated with them | May 16 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | here you're dealing maybe with both, depending on how that drive works :) | May 16 22:21 |
| _Goblin | Rimmer has discovered that he can make a woman out of his DNA strands. In a voice over, he debates if it would be right for them to have sex, as technically, it would be his sister: | May 16 22:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Look at #Slackware , Tiny Core, and #PCLinuxOS http://ur1.ca/01enb http://ur1.ca/01end http://ur1.ca/01ene | May 16 22:22 | |
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| _Goblin | Rimmer: ' After much soul searching, I reluctantly decided: "What the hell, I just wouldn't tell her." | May 16 22:22 |
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| DaemonFC | and of course the inbreeding led to the Roman Empire populated only by Rimmer clones ala Caligula | May 16 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | good episode | May 16 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | _Goblin: Speaking of Caligula, the way he chose to insult the Senate was priceless | May 16 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | he used his appointment powers to appoint his horse a Senator | May 16 22:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] After numerous insults to me and my blog, should this be the theme of Openbytes? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQkActP-isE - Great stuff! | May 16 22:24 | |
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| DaemonFC | vicious, cruel, and insane, but intelligent and with a twisted sense of humor | May 16 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | and commanding total power over their government and the largest and most well equiped army in the world at that time | May 16 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 16 22:25 |
| _Goblin | Rimmer World........great planet! | May 16 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | Which Roman Emperor was it that was assassinated by the Praetorian guards? | May 16 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | I remember hearing the story that they guards killed him and a bunch of other people, all his heirs spare one son who they found cowering in a closet | May 16 22:27 |
| MinceR | what was he doing in South Africa? :> | May 16 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | then they knelt down and shouted "Hail Caesar!" | May 16 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | cause they knew he was weak and would be easily controlled | May 16 22:27 |
| _Goblin | Im not sure.... | May 16 22:27 |
| _Goblin | Bigus Dickus? Naugtious Maximus? | May 16 22:28 |
| _Goblin | For the real history, look no futher than Monty Python. | May 16 22:28 |
| MinceR | Incontinentia Buttocks | May 16 22:30 |
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| MichaelF_ | Hey Roy | May 16 22:31 |
| MichaelF_ | You up Roy | May 16 22:32 |
| MichaelF_ | ? | May 16 22:32 |
| _Goblin | MinceR: Im sorry to hear that. ;) | May 16 22:34 |
| _Goblin | michaelF: I expect he'll be back soon. | May 16 22:34 |
| MinceR | _Goblin: you don't remember that part of the scene? :> | May 16 22:34 |
| _Goblin | yes... | May 16 22:34 |
| _Goblin | It was biggus's wife | May 16 22:34 |
| _Goblin | he has a wife you know. | May 16 22:34 |
| _Goblin | got to link it.... | May 16 22:35 |
| _Goblin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K8_jgiNqUc | May 16 22:36 |
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| Diablo-D3 | [04:28:04] <_Goblin> diablo-d3: I will complain about what I want and you nor anyone else will stop me. Come back when you have a sucessful blog and we'll talk again. | May 16 22:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | so being on slashdot's front page 3 times, yahoo's tech blog once, digg twice, and delicious' hot list once isnt enough? | May 16 22:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | oh, and being linked to by a few thousand smaller blogs? | May 16 22:42 |
| _Goblin | which blog would that be then? | May 16 22:43 |
| _Goblin | All I see now is you popping up to stir the pot. | May 16 22:43 |
| _Goblin | but it matters not. | May 16 22:43 |
| _Goblin | Ive seen you in action before.... | May 16 22:43 |
| _Goblin | you ever met Grahame Morrison? You'd get on well with him | May 16 22:43 |
| _Goblin | and a few thousand is not really that many is it? | May 16 22:44 |
| _Goblin | after your disrespectful behaviour (and I presume you checked the screenshot) I will now treat you with the contempt you deserve. | May 16 22:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Cameron announces audit of 'crazy' Labour spending - can anyone say "scorched earth policy?" http://tinyurl.com/3xdggg8 | May 16 22:49 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Over 2,000,000 New #Linux -based #Android Phones Per Month http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jtZT_1rdNJFpfU_fwWMiugrx8JMw | May 16 22:53 | |
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| yuhong | http://gawker.com/5539717/steve-jobs-offers-world-freedom-from-porn | May 16 23:02 |
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| yuhong | I recommended to the author to forward the email exchange to RMS. | May 16 23:03 |
| cubezzz | MinceR, pay? | May 16 23:06 |
| cubezzz | VL6.0-KDE-Classic.iso | May 16 23:06 |
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| cubezzz | freely downloadable | May 16 23:06 |
| sebsebseb | Hi | May 16 23:06 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: last time i checked vector linux required payment, at least in the version that was interesting | May 16 23:06 |
| cubezzz | hmmm | May 16 23:07 |
| MinceR | (iirc it was the version that supported kde at all at the time) | May 16 23:07 |
| cubezzz | that's strange, I just downloaded the iso | May 16 23:07 |
| MinceR | things must have changed since i last looked | May 16 23:07 |
| cubezzz | checking now | May 16 23:09 |
| cubezzz | their "Standard Editon" is pay actually | May 16 23:10 |
| cubezzz | I assume it's got built-in dvd and mp3 support | May 16 23:10 |
| cubezzz | but they also have all sorts of free editions | May 16 23:11 |
| cubezzz | I assume they don't have mp3 and stuff like that | May 16 23:11 |
| cubezzz | "60 days of installation and configuration support included" | May 16 23:12 |
| cubezzz | a bit like linspire actually | May 16 23:12 |
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| MinceR | gn | May 16 23:13 |
| _Goblin | Elive is another dodgy distro.... | May 16 23:17 |
| _Goblin | has a very underhanded way of making you pay.... | May 16 23:17 |
| _Goblin | just doesn't make it obvious until after you've downloaded and want to install from LiveCD. | May 16 23:17 |
| _Goblin | I sent them an email a while ago after writing a popular article on Elive.....they didn't respond...but then how could they? | May 16 23:18 |
| ThistleWeb | isnt that the e17 wm? | May 16 23:18 |
| _Goblin | yep | May 16 23:18 |
| ThistleWeb | I thought it was the e17 peeps who wanted to make it a "for pay" wm | May 16 23:19 |
| _Goblin | and they have the nerve to charge after using a copyrighted picture to pimp their warez. | May 16 23:19 |
| cubezzz | I got the full iso already though :) | May 16 23:19 |
| cubezzz | I guess I'll know for sure when I install it | May 16 23:19 |
| MinceR | so, how do they make you pay? | May 16 23:19 |
| _Goblin | it will ask you for a code before proceeding with install. | May 16 23:19 |
| _Goblin | and you need a patch of sorts....to prevent piracy | May 16 23:20 |
| _Goblin | sort of EliveDRM | May 16 23:20 |
| MinceR | lol | May 16 23:20 |
| _Goblin | unless you go for the unstable ver....they'll give that to you for free. | May 16 23:20 |
| MinceR | pathetic | May 16 23:20 |
| _Goblin | yep | May 16 23:20 |
| ThistleWeb | I've never liked e17, something doesn't quite fit for me, but that's all personal taste, and unrelated to the fact that wanna charge for it | May 16 23:20 |
| _Goblin | it gets worse though.... | May 16 23:21 |
| _Goblin | you can get it for free if you shill for them...... | May 16 23:21 |
| _Goblin | http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2010/04/17/when-must-you-shill-for-linux-a-rather-disturbing-idea/ | May 16 23:21 |
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| _Goblin | that was linked on Tuxmachines and proved quite a popular article. | May 16 23:21 |
| cubezzz | hold on, I'm not sure Vector is the same as Elive | May 16 23:21 |
| ThistleWeb | vector is xfce | May 16 23:22 |
| ThistleWeb | it's also slackware based I think | May 16 23:22 |
| cubezzz | it is based on slackware and there's different versions | May 16 23:22 |
| ThistleWeb | not sure what elive is based on | May 16 23:22 |
| cubezzz | I just downloaded "KDE classic" | May 16 23:22 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah soho and home | May 16 23:22 |
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| cubezzz | so are you saying vector should be avoided? | May 16 23:23 |
| ThistleWeb | not me | May 16 23:23 |
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| _Goblin | Ive not looked at Vector..... | May 16 23:23 |
| ThistleWeb | I tried it ages ago | May 16 23:23 |
| _Goblin | I don't think I have anyway. | May 16 23:23 |
| cubezzz | well usin the live cd couldn't hurt | May 16 23:24 |
| MinceR | _Goblin: they don't say the article must be positive so you might be eligible for free codes now :> | May 16 23:24 |
| ThistleWeb | wasnt all that impressed, but then I have little experience of slackware's way of doing things | May 16 23:24 |
| _Goblin | I never got any free codes (I did ask) | May 16 23:24 |
| MinceR | did you point to that article? | May 16 23:24 |
| _Goblin | yep | May 16 23:24 |
| MinceR | ("Write an article about Elive") | May 16 23:24 |
| MinceR | so they're also liars | May 16 23:24 |
| _Goblin | and never got a response to my other questions either. | May 16 23:24 |
| cubezzz | it seems you're just paying for support (re: vector) | May 16 23:25 |
| cubezzz | if you go pay | May 16 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | Slackware doesn't support GNOME at all, and ignored X86-64 for over 5 years | May 16 23:25 |
| _Goblin | Elive did help me though..... | May 16 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see why some people rave about it | May 16 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | they have old 32-bit PCs and use only KDE I guess | May 16 23:25 |
| _Goblin | it was because of that article I finally managed to prove that Andre MVP nymshifted. | May 16 23:25 |
| ThistleWeb | slackware seems very old school / manual for me | May 16 23:25 |
| _Goblin | so I suppose I should donate something. | May 16 23:25 |
| cubezzz | lol, ok it's good for me then :) | May 16 23:26 |
| ThistleWeb | I didnt come to linux from that far back when everything was like that | May 16 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | doesn't support GNOME, strike against the distro | May 16 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | doesn't support X86-64, I won't consider it at all | May 16 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 16 23:26 |
| ThistleWeb | so it feels like a step back to have to do a lot of stuff manually that I;m used to being set up already | May 16 23:26 |
| ThistleWeb | slack is a xfce / kde distro I think | May 16 23:26 |
| ThistleWeb | which is odd that they dont like gnome | May 16 23:27 |
| ThistleWeb | but then, I wonder if they've lost a lot of dev hours to other distros over the yrs | May 16 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | there's Dropline GNOME but the guy doing Slackware says it's totally unofficial and may break your system | May 16 23:27 |
| ThistleWeb | arch has picked up a lot of old school, manual users | May 16 23:27 |
| cubezzz | I feel I understand KDE better, at least 3.4.2 | May 16 23:28 |
| ThistleWeb | you do hear a lot of peeps earned their stripes running slackware years ago, but almost all of them have moved to easier distros to save time and hassle | May 16 23:28 |
| cubezzz | I like to try new things | May 16 23:30 |
| cubezzz | well sometimes old school is better | May 16 23:32 |
| cubezzz | "old" motherboards don't have everything built-in | May 16 23:32 |
| cubezzz | they had socketed chips you could easily replace | May 16 23:33 |
| cubezzz | I never liked the idea that everything was part of the motherboard | May 16 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, I see they finally fixed a bug in Konqueror that's been there since 2008 | May 16 23:34 |
| cubezzz | certainly older hardware is easier to program | May 16 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | the Youtube sound continuing after you close that tab | May 16 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The store manager at the local Rent-A-Center won't rent out PCs to you again if you ever brought one back with Linux on it | May 16 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | some company rented like 50 laptops one time and brought them all back with Linux and the store manager threw a fit | May 16 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | and someone had to sit there and reimage them all with Windows | May 16 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | they don't like formatting the hard disk, they just delete all the obvious user crap off the hard disks when they come back in unless Windows is fucked | May 16 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | so when you rent the PC, you can probably just take an undelete program and get back tons of stuff from the last person that rented it :) | May 16 23:40 |
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| ThistleWeb | I thought about creating a satire site called rentatroll.com | May 16 23:44 |
| ThistleWeb | which is a whole fake site about astrotufing | May 16 23:44 |
| ThistleWeb | with endorse,emts from various corps who do it | May 16 23:45 |
| ThistleWeb | "rentatroll,.com are great value, if you want to shut down a conference, they do a great job" | May 16 23:45 |
| ThistleWeb | with pricing on how many forums, irc channels, mainstream press etc they have to work | May 16 23:46 |
| ThistleWeb | and a danger scale of how alert they are to it, and how likely they are to bite at smears | May 16 23:46 |
| ThistleWeb | or expose the actions | May 16 23:46 |
| ThistleWeb | with various manuals on how they do it | May 16 23:48 |
| ThistleWeb | there's plenty of source material around to compile it | May 16 23:48 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Standards Such as #ODF in Wikipedia, HTML5 for Music Notation Rendering http://ur1.ca/01f5x http://ur1.ca/00xyo | May 16 23:53 | |
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