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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Bad Apple, Part III: Receiving Glowing Reviews From Business Partners, Without Disclosure http://ur1.ca/01oknMay 18 00:03
TechrightsTitle: Bad Apple, Part III: Receiving Glowing Reviews From Business Partners, Without Disclosure | Techrights .::. Size~: 93.88 KBMay 18 00:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 80% of developers who target Apple’s platform are said to feel betrayed; thus, the value of software freedom is seen http://ur1.ca/01oo6May 18 00:22
TechrightsTitle: Bad Apple, Part IV: Betraying the Fools Who Make It Richer | Techrights .::. Size~: 90.44 KBMay 18 00:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] DW: Little lies. http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/34917.htmlMay 18 00:23
TechrightsTitle: reddragdiva | Little lies. .::. Size~: 37.63 KBMay 18 00:23
scienteswhat happened to notnews.today.com?May 18 00:28
schestowitzstill there, no?May 18 00:29
schestowitzOhMay 18 00:29
schestowitzHe movsMay 18 00:29
schestowitz*moved to newstechnicaMay 18 00:29
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Just discovered a russian ubuntu podcast on itunes. Excellent! There's room for loads more :)May 18 00:37
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_goblinGood evening all.May 18 00:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] Google spies on unsecured wifi as much as Windows XP hacks it if you drive by with a laptop. Is the personal info of admin/root exciting?May 18 00:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] MVP program – Microsoft responds to Openbytes! http://tinyurl.com/2vzxjke #microsoft #windows #mvp #vista #xp #linux #foss #gnuMay 18 00:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Steve Jobs turns out to have been personally involved in the over-the-top incident http://ur1.ca/01oreMay 18 00:43
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schestowitzI'm gonna do my 24th post todayMay 18 00:43
schestowitzNot far from the record (28)May 18 00:43
TechrightsTitle: Bad Apple, Part V: Don Steve Jobs | Techrights .::. Size~: 93.57 KBMay 18 00:43
DaemonFCyou could technically beat that with 28 and a draftMay 18 00:44
DaemonFC:)May 18 00:44
schestowitzI want to do 30 one dayMay 18 00:44
schestowitzBut some posts are longer, it's not a proper unit like # of wordsMay 18 00:44
schestowitzAnd without proofreading it's easierMay 18 00:45
DaemonFCschestowitz: Research shows that longer essays are rated more favorably, regardless of the contentMay 18 00:45
DaemonFCschestowitz: The quit facebook site is being talked about on G4May 18 00:46
_goblinIm quitingMay 18 00:46
DaemonFCthey said the Facebook privacy agreement has more words than the US ConstitutionMay 18 00:46
DaemonFC:PMay 18 00:46
_goblinfacebook that is.May 18 00:46
_goblinnever used it much anywayMay 18 00:47
DaemonFCsome really poorly written crap manages huge wordcountsMay 18 00:47
DaemonFCyou ever notice that?May 18 00:47
DaemonFCthose with the least to say express it in as many words as possibleMay 18 00:47
_goblinnever really paid it much interest....to be fair, I only really joined so that I could see family members photo's, now even they are using other options....May 18 00:48
DaemonFC(Gleen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Sarah Palin...)May 18 00:48
*schestowitz looks for embarrassing apple quotesMay 18 00:48
DaemonFCany one of their books probably passes the word count of the US Constitution a few times over and manges to say nothing importantMay 18 00:48
_goblinSarah Palin.....Fine looking womanMay 18 00:48
schestowitz_goblin: I deleted mineMay 18 00:48
schestowitz_goblin: Sarah GoblinMay 18 00:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@mrpower dichotomy Purves creates, the way I read it, is between "tokenism" and "paying no attention to the issue, it's sorting itself out"May 18 00:49
_goblinSarah Goblin?  I think we would disagree on diversity issues.....May 18 00:49
_goblinfrom what I understand of Sarahs right wing views.May 18 00:49
DaemonFCschestowitz: If you drive the distance that Google vans do with nothing more than an off the shelf Windows laptop from Walmart, it will connect to as many routersMay 18 00:49
DaemonFCwhy are people fussing about Google mistakenly doing this?May 18 00:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@indiaknight Frutiger can be perfect for some texts. But everything hinges on 1) mood wanted 2) audience 3) what's in your font library ;)May 18 00:50
DaemonFCWindows has automatically connected to all unprotected routers from XP onwardMay 18 00:50
DaemonFCWindows is designed to enable stupid people to do stupid thingsMay 18 00:51
DaemonFCstupid people leave their router unprotectedMay 18 00:51
DaemonFCso Windows connects to all unprotected routersMay 18 00:51
DaemonFCotherwise they'd have a reputation of Windows being too hard to useMay 18 00:51
DaemonFCif you go past "Plug in a few cords", people will get frustratedMay 18 00:52
DaemonFCand sometimes asking them to plug in a few cords is too muchMay 18 00:52
DaemonFCsomehow these people have enough money to buy a computer :)May 18 00:53
DaemonFCor eat, pay rent, or own a car for that matter...May 18 00:53
DaemonFCit seems like the more inept you are, the more the universe rewards youMay 18 00:54
schestowitz""When you're young, you look at television and think, There's a conspiracy. The networks have conspired to dumb us down. But when you get a little older, you realize that's not true. The networks are in business to give people exactly what they want. That's a far more depressing thought. Conspiracy is optimistic! You can shoot the bastards! We can have a revolution! But the networks are really in business to give people what they May 18 00:54
schestowitzwant. It's the truth. "May 18 00:54
schestowitz(Jobs)May 18 00:54
scientesthats not true at allMay 18 00:54
scientesthey are in the business to protect their bottom lineMay 18 00:55
scientesthat is not at all what people wantMay 18 00:55
scientesthey sell what makes them moneyMay 18 00:55
scientesthey sell their audience, and sell to their audienceMay 18 00:55
scientesthat is the twim chimera that makes it so interestingMay 18 00:55
scientesas these two clients are fundamentally at oddsMay 18 00:55
scientesthere was a good daily show moment of zen that covered it well recentlyMay 18 00:56
DaemonFCscientes: I guess they figure...If person is a moron, Windows connects to their unprotected router. If person is smart enough to properly configure router, they most likely know how to stop Windows from behaving this way.May 18 00:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@indiaknight there are a huge no. of text faces, so depending on the answers to those questions I can make more recommendations #typographyMay 18 00:56
DaemonFCthey get to sell Windows to morons and non-morons alikeMay 18 00:56
DaemonFCmaximum salesMay 18 00:56
DaemonFCyou notice how with a Linux distro, it will connect to an unprotected router, but the user must explicitly tell it to?May 18 00:57
DaemonFCthat's "too hard" for a lot of people I guessMay 18 00:57
schestowitzhttp://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Steve_JobsMay 18 00:57
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DaemonFCincluding radiologists and dentistsMay 18 00:57
schestowitzDaemonFC: brushed up by fanboisMay 18 00:58
schestowitzit's like a PR pageMay 18 00:58
DaemonFCevery time I'm in a "professionals" office, I start a computer related conversationMay 18 00:58
DaemonFCthe radiologist managed to download and run a fake antivirus ransomware programMay 18 00:58
DaemonFCthe dentist couldn't figure out how to install the antivirus he bought at WalmartMay 18 00:59
schestowitzHe said, "The Japanese have hit the shores like dead fish. They're just like dead fish washing up on the shores. "May 18 00:59
DaemonFCschestowitz: Realease the iKracken!!!!May 18 00:59
DaemonFCB-)May 18 00:59
DaemonFC*ReleaseMay 18 00:59
DaemonFCAnyone remember which AD&D game it was where you had to fight a Kracken?May 18 01:01
DaemonFCI remember the thing was damned hard to kill, I had to resurrect most of my party afterwardsMay 18 01:01
schestowitzhttp://paidcontent.org/article/419-five-years-in-youtube-claims-two-billion-plus-daily-views/May 18 01:02
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schestowitzThat's more than one per Net userMay 18 01:02
DaemonFCschestowitz: I noticed that HDMI adds quite a lagMay 18 01:02
DaemonFCif I hook up my speakers to the audio out on the box, they play the sound in real time and the TV is apparently lagging about a second behind due to the HDMI cableMay 18 01:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @josephtartakoff YouTube Now Claims Two Billion-Plus Daily Views, http://cnt.to/kyyMay 18 01:03
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DaemonFCI ended up turning off the TV speakersMay 18 01:03
DaemonFCthe TV has audio out but it sounds "worse", can't put my finger on itMay 18 01:03
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schestowitzWow. The server's metling today... overloaded most of the timeMay 18 01:04
DaemonFCso much for a "digital" connectionMay 18 01:04
DaemonFCI'm about to pull out some well shielded component cablesMay 18 01:05
DaemonFCso the box and TV won't have to "handshake" everytime I switch between channels using a different resolution :PMay 18 01:05
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DaemonFCI can't believe what Sony did with the DashMay 18 01:10
DaemonFCit was all right until the "no web browser" partMay 18 01:10
DaemonFCit's like a kitchen without an oven nowMay 18 01:11
DaemonFCSony manages to put out fantastic products with one crippling problem or another that keeps me from buying oneMay 18 01:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @EmergentCulture 3BP Chose More Toxic, Less Effective #Oil Dispersant — Guess Why … http://bit.ly/ca0UXY // gosh, no idea... :|May 18 01:12
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DaemonFConly Sony could manage to license out Blu Ray and end up not having the best Blu Ray playersMay 18 01:12
DaemonFC:)May 18 01:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @EmergentCulture #BP Chose More Toxic, Less Effective #Oil Dispersant — Guess Why … http://bit.ly/ca0UXY // gosh, no idea... :|May 18 01:13
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DaemonFCbecause they make the dispersant?May 18 01:14
DaemonFC:)May 18 01:14
DaemonFCThey gave Obama a perfect excuse to shut down offshore oil drillingMay 18 01:15
DaemonFCnow he'll act as if it's inherently unsafe and can't be fixedMay 18 01:16
DaemonFCuse it as a pretext to make us buy more foreign oil  from Arab cartelsMay 18 01:16
DaemonFCfrom the same countries that want to kill us but mask their contempt as long as we're propping up their dictators with oil salesMay 18 01:16
DaemonFC*cough* Saudi ArabiaMay 18 01:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Listening to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJaGoPkFc0o&feature=related ahh the memories....great stuff #metal #yourockonMay 18 01:20
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] threatening to cancel #Assange's passport, Aust govt shows it remains a puppet of same old interests #wikileaks #garzón http://bit.ly/ckp2tnMay 18 01:37
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I have an 8 am to 8pm appointment tomorrowMay 18 01:37
DaemonFConly the phone company can put people through thisMay 18 01:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Yep - between the Pope, Harper, and Limbaugh - regular outrage fully restored, #kthxbaiMay 18 01:41
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Aondodamn linux action show is really smashing the replaced programs in fedora, replacing the mono stuff. May 18 01:50
_goblinRight I think Im done for the night.....May 18 01:51
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@rjurney #Pesticides gave me #ADHD? http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/721892 /always appeared environmental to me,i don't find surprisingMay 18 02:05
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yuhongNow of course there are many who had good experiences with Vista/7.May 18 02:38
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] New blog post: Mother's Day Poem To My Wonderful And... http://madhatter.ca/2010/05/09/mothers-day-poem-to-my-wonderful-and-beautiful-wife/May 18 02:59
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] A bit late, but here's the poem I gave my wife on Mother's day. http://bit.ly/a1PI7eMay 18 03:04
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Ignatieff nails #Harper tactics,any1 listening? http://bit.ly/cFYHfJ old divisive culture war tricks © #karlrove #murdoch #johnhoward #palinMay 18 03:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] New blog post: James Moore Has Just Made Himself A Big Ta... http://madhatter.ca/2010/05/17/james-moore-has-just-made-himself-a-big-target/May 18 04:07
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@avivao #Gingrich: "The secular-socialist machine represents as great a threat to America..." // one can only LAUGH AND LAUGH at this toshMay 18 04:54
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] excellent summary of #msg #hvp additive history http://bit.ly/csEtKy for more: http://holisticmed.com/msg/ #umami #food #health #dietMay 18 05:02
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @aashiks: Wild FOx : Firefox fork with h264 support http://is.gd/ce2twMay 18 05:13
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @Devinder_Sharma: Kerala has officially adopted Organic Agriculture policy. It will now launch a training programme for its agriculturalMay 18 05:15
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] A high school senior has a 4.09 GPA and has been accepted to UC Berkeley. In other news, Robert Rector is a racist fuck. http://ur1.ca/01q2oMay 18 05:33
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Surreal. #Baghdad to build wall 'to keep insurgents out'; pity no wall kept out over-militarised foreign... http://ff.im/kuKHUMay 18 05:37
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Supreme Court can no longer be trusted to uphold the Constitution http://ur1.ca/01q5gMay 18 05:48
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Wow, Shelden on TV's Big Bang Theory just said Ubuntu is his fave Linux distro! That'll be one part "rock" one part "roll" please! #ubuntuMay 18 06:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Teaching Animation with OpenOffice Impress (Presentation) to kids #openofficeMay 18 06:49
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Protecode is #FUD and It’s Proprietary http://techrights.org/2010/05/18/protecode-as-medicine/ #lcensingMay 18 07:53
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] #Powercut from 10 am in bangalore-east #bangalore #failMay 18 07:57
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MinceRhttp://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/c5bql/facebook_user_criticizes_mark_zuckerberg_soon/May 18 08:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Will BA be allowed injunctions against strike action by coming up with a technical objection each time. All objections should be declared.May 18 08:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft’s extension Ignition Partners is putting money and board members inside yet another company that spreads FOSS http://ur1.ca/01r35May 18 08:22
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schestowitzI think we had some misbehaved bot ripping apart the sever: "(compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; InfoPath.1)""May 18 08:24
schestowitzI hate with passion those things... they deny real visitors from getting pagesMay 18 08:24
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MinceRonly if your server isn't powerful enough and/or your pipe isn't wide enough :>May 18 08:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft-Paid Web ‘Statistics’ Show the Opposite of the Rest http://ur1.ca/01rbs #comscore #prMay 18 09:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @satipera yes, it has gone on for monthsMay 18 09:26
schestowitz"How is google news being gamed so that "Unrivaled support from Novell, now available for Red Hat" appears every day in linux search 24 hrs"May 18 09:26
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jhambyfor some real fun, check out the threads on the Kin tech support forum.. http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pmxphone/threadsMay 18 09:33
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jhambysoooo many bugs. it is really truly pathetic.May 18 09:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @schestowitz Since the middle of last year I thinkMay 18 09:36
jhambyand here's what's really strange. if you Google (or Bing, I checked both) for "kin tech support" and related queries, the MSFT official forum is not showing up in the results that I could see!May 18 09:37
jhamby(not sure how I found it originally)May 18 09:37
jhambythis thread has a good punchline: http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pmxphone/thread/9611e92c-2451-4914-8cb8-6f1f720a365fMay 18 09:42
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Raghu Rai's photographs after #Bhopal. http://galleries.bhopal.org/main.php?g2_itemId=872 #capitalism #dowchemical #dow http://ff.im/kvfdsMay 18 09:44
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The latest #Microsoft moves which are intended to redefine “Open Source” and turn it into free labour http://ur1.ca/01rlpMay 18 09:51
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Microsoft pays $200 million to Virnetx. http://is.gd/cel07May 18 10:01
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Is #Novell Spamming Google News With Anti- #RedHat Whitepapers and TechRepublic’s Help? http://ur1.ca/01rrnMay 18 10:19
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] The Pirate Bay is back up. When will the industry realize that they need to work with, not against p2p? They can't win. #tpb #p2pMay 18 10:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Don't forget to check out 2 Demo Scene DVD's no copyright issues either! http://tinyurl.com/36pr5as http://tinyurl.com/3a4zoxd #demosceneMay 18 10:30
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] The Royal Scam. A piece by Christopher Hitchens (2002) I actually agree with.May 18 10:40
schestowitz[09:33] <jhamby> for some real fun, check out the threads on the Kin tech support forum.. http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pmxphone/threadsMay 18 10:43
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schestowitzHmmmmmmmm.....May 18 10:43
schestowitzShouldn't one expect a support forum to show many problems?May 18 10:43
schestowitzI don't think looking for particular issues is a good way of presenting general issuesMay 18 10:44
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*Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-socialMay 18 10:50
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] New Hope for Gary McKinnon: http://tinyurl.com/33nbtleMay 18 10:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] ipad is not a gold mine for everyone. http://is.gd/cenOHMay 18 10:51
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] lol - Too little too late? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/10120572.stm #microsoft #hotmail #mvp #failMay 18 11:26
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Will new approaches lead to an AIDS vaccine? http://is.gd/ceq1iMay 18 11:30
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] At work on netbook. I may be able to give back the horrible loan laptop and just get a desktop at werk, and wfh on this toy!May 18 11:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Upgrading my bitfolk vps to #ubuntu lucid! Should be fun :)May 18 11:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Netbook report: proprietary BMC43xx wifi arsey, battery a bit clapped out. Otherwise LOOOOVELY. *prr*prr*prr* <3 <3 <3May 18 11:34
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Upgrade to lucid barfed with an interesting error http://paste.ubuntu.com/435468/ . Bodged by replacing /bin/tarMay 18 12:26
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Seems my vps upgrade hit https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tar/+bug/539814 which is unpleasant!May 18 12:32
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Just called IT and begged them to cart away the Portege M100 POS. Mini 9 is actually better!May 18 12:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Microsoft Hotmail upgrade targets Gmail and Yahoo - what price, free advertising http://tinyurl.com/2g7hhdxMay 18 13:03
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Way to go in the new accountable Church, why are we not surprised? This lot should be outlawed http://tinyurl.com/32defafMay 18 13:13
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A roundup of news looking at the actions of the #GatesFoundation and the consequences of profit which is made http://ur1.ca/01socMay 18 13:16
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Fans of Richards "posts" should visit Openbytes.....he's back and amazed that a blog is someone's opinion.....lol.May 18 13:46
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @ newsbiscuit Scientists announce ‘Computers not that good’ http://bit.ly/bXTveVMay 18 14:12
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] We must become FANATICAL for open standard. boycott youtube, vimeo, mp4 & flash sites . (Only use openoffice odt, html5, ogg video)May 18 14:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Yay! @bitfolk vps upgraded from #ubuntu 8.04 to 10.04 successfully. One one issue, which seems to be an Ubuntu bug.May 18 14:31
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Stop Illegal Eviction & Police Brutality in Orissa. Join Protest @ 5pm 2moro, Gandhi Statue, M.G Road, Bangalore http://bit.ly/9NuZVnMay 18 14:52
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Stop Illegal Eviction & Police Brutality in Orissa. Join Protest @ 5pm 2moro, Gandhi Statue, M.G Road, Blr http://bit.ly/9NuZVn plz RTMay 18 14:54
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] GPL enforcement in Europe http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100403103524185May 18 15:28
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Audio recordings from #Ubuntu developer summit now available http://bit.ly/aahndYMay 18 16:04
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schestowitzRe: Microsoft Jack trashes ACER and Chrome OSMay 18 17:04
schestowitz> Despite frequent press stories pre-announcing Acer's intentions inMay 18 17:04
schestowitz> this regard, it now says it doesn't have any. Which is a pity forMay 18 17:04
schestowitz> those of us keen to find out whether Chrome OS still has Chrome'sMay 18 17:04
schestowitz> "Resolving host" problem…May 18 17:04
schestowitz> May 18 17:05
schestowitz> http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/may/17/google-chromeMay 18 17:05
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schestowitz"Sierra Leone paper says Tony Blair got $2.4 million from Bill Gates Fdn - http://bit.ly/8YTrWm amazing confluence if true (via @schestowitz) http://identi.ca/notice/32671749 "May 18 17:06
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Dear Lazyweb, Good Android programming tutorials? Seen any? TIAMay 18 17:11
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schestowitzIt's a beautiful day here today, which is rareMay 18 17:12
schestowitzI'm trying to find a good Linux audiocastMay 18 17:13
schestowitzThe FSF ones are repetitive by now (same points)May 18 17:13
schestowitzAny recommendations?May 18 17:13
schestowitzI'm trying out some more of jono's show, just downloaded 2 episodesMay 18 17:13
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amarsh04nothing suitable from sflc?May 18 17:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @BastianBest #Google files #patent for "Smart TV" running #android - http://bit.ly/9P3sei - #ip #swpat #patentsMay 18 17:20
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schestowitzzoobab: got subs for http://www.mondaq.com/article.asp?articleid=100752 ?May 18 17:26
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schestowitzamarsh04: oh, yeah!May 18 17:26
schestowitzThanks for reminding me, I'll d/l someMay 18 17:26
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*schestowitz mass downloads from http://www.softwarefreedom.org/podcast/May 18 17:27
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOfdboHvshgMay 18 17:31
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schestowitzBlender. Nice.May 18 17:31
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Omar87Hi all.May 18 17:31
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] It is time to boycott non-standards http://post.ly/gUAnMay 18 17:55
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schestowitzhttp://www.pwnage.ca/?p=28May 18 17:57
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schestowitzHi, Omar87May 18 17:58
schestowitzWhat's new?May 18 17:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @nsisodiya It is time to boycott non-standards http://post.ly/gUAn > important to raise awarenessMay 18 17:59
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schestowitzhttp://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000002988May 18 18:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] David Koepsell on Ethical Problems With ‘Intellectual Property’ http://ur1.ca/01uqa #swpats #copyright #patentsMay 18 18:11
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schestowitzamarsh04: is this true? Renai from zdnet: http://delimiter.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=41May 18 18:13
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schestowitzI thought they had mostly migrated by nowMay 18 18:13
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amarsh04just having a look schestowitzMay 18 18:14
schestowitzFacebook downplays privacy crisis meeting http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8681730.stmMay 18 18:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] I love wikipedia. I never wrote for wikipedia. So I donated some money. #foss #donate If you love FOSS, then donate money to foss projectsMay 18 18:18
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schestowitzToo late for them, people leave in drovesMay 18 18:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] For those who do not know. I have shifted my flat at Malviya Nagar Delhi. setting up a Hacking center at flat. Calling it "Freedom house"May 18 18:20
schestowitzhttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/14/science/14hack.html?src=twt&twt=nytimestechMay 18 18:20
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amarsh04yes, I'd agree with it... (has some more De Bortoli wine) the commenter by the name of purserj would be James Purser of Linux AustraliaMay 18 18:21
schestowitzamarsh04: the English-speaking countries are slow to adopt Linux because of bureaucracyMay 18 18:25
schestowitzBut it's where the Linux news that I can read comes from, which is a shameMay 18 18:26
schestowitzBarry Kauler is now basing Puppy on Ubuntu: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Ubuntu-based-Puppy-Linux-5-0-arrives-1001200.htmlMay 18 18:26
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amarsh04too much m$ influence and fear of trying something differentMay 18 18:27
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cubezzz" Aluratek "Libre" E-Book Reader Pro with 5" Display"May 18 18:46
cubezzzon sale, anyone know if it's linux based?May 18 18:46
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schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/16/dispatch-on-frontline-with-bush-killersMay 18 18:58
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schestowitzcubezzz: most of them are, but I never heard of AluratekMay 18 18:58
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] had a nice conversation with @jboutelle .May 18 19:08
schestowitzHm... Another one with a Canonical name in the EFF: http://www.eff.org/about/staff/matt-zimmermanMay 18 19:08
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Today is a meatballs day! Although wifey wants chips. Is meatballs, tomato sauce and chips allowed?May 18 19:33
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RT: @abbe: http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-party-becomes-the-pirate-bays-new-host-100518/ #awesome #pirateparty #tpbMay 18 19:33
TechrightsTitle:    The Pirate Party Becomes The Pirate Bays New Host | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 79.32 KBMay 18 19:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Listening to @serafinowicz on Adam Buxton podcast. Great fun.May 18 19:50
schestowitzHmmmmmm.. any mono here? http://awn.planetblur.org/index.php?shard=forum&action=g_reply&ID=2412&page=1&isLive=trueMay 18 19:51
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Anyone fancy a glass of Ubuntini? http://bit.ly/cBolcT :)May 18 20:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @remin Lightspark, an innovative FLOSS Flash player, reaches #Beta Status #linux #fsf #GNU #opensource #itsbetter http://ur1.ca/01sc1May 18 20:25
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schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/why-google-bought-global-ip-solutions/6501May 18 20:41
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cubezzzwow, microsoft ads on linux today, every day!May 18 20:46
cubezzzthat's creepyMay 18 20:47
cubezzzit's on the left, on the right and belowMay 18 20:48
cubezzz3 big microsoft adsMay 18 20:49
cubezzzI hope there's at least getting some money out of itMay 18 20:49
cubezzzsorry, 4 ads!May 18 20:50
cubezzzit's on the top as wellMay 18 20:50
cubezzzlolMay 18 20:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Groklaw has just turned 7 and Techrights turned 3.5 years old one week agoMay 18 20:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @schestowitz lol you won't be using the halves when it is 10 years plusMay 18 20:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Techrights now has 9,950 blog posts (exc. other pages). Big milestone coming soon. Hundreds of thousands of hits per day and growingMay 18 21:07
schestowitzcubezzz: yeah, I see noneMay 18 21:07
schestowitzI guess I should be careful linking to it, not aware of what's *really* thereMay 18 21:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @satipera I wish we make it to 10 :-)May 18 21:08
schestowitzThe good news is that I can probably keep running the site in the foreseeable future, maybe not 'full time', we'll seeMay 18 21:08
schestowitzI spoke to a mate of mine who didn't get his job in UCLMay 18 21:09
schestowitzHe felt rejectedMay 18 21:09
schestowitzHe's trying Surrey nowMay 18 21:09
schestowitzBut he got me connected with another university that wants to interview me for lectureship (only full time though :-( )May 18 21:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] If you love html5, you must subscribe html5 planet #html5 #blog #w3c http://www.w3.org/html/planetMay 18 21:12
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cubezzzwhat's wrong with full time?May 18 21:21
schestowitzIt would kill the siteMay 18 21:24
schestowitzI would not have timeMay 18 21:24
schestowitzThere's some good news now re swpats hack:May 18 21:24
schestowitz> You're welcome, Roy. I'm in email contact with the authors of the DPL. InMay 18 21:24
schestowitz> case you plan to report on the DPL, this link may be useful:May 18 21:24
schestowitz> http://lawweb.colorado.edu/events/mediaDetails.jsp?id=2703May 18 21:24
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schestowitz> The second video on that page contains a presentation of the upcoming DPL,May 18 21:24
schestowitz> starting about 32 minutes into the recording.May 18 21:24
schestowitz> Both authors (Jason Schultz and Jennifer Urban) were on the panel; Jason didMay 18 21:24
schestowitz> the DPL presentation alone, Jennifer made other comments earlier in theMay 18 21:24
schestowitz> panel session and when questions about the DPL come up after Jason'sMay 18 21:24
schestowitz> presentation, she also provides some answers.May 18 21:24
schestowitz> May 18 21:24
schestowitz> FlorianMay 18 21:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] I spy @nixiepixel in Uruguay! http://www.flickr.com/photos/pablorubianes/4600311860/in/set-72157624043829688/May 18 21:34
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MinceRhttp://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/c5dzf/you_can_help_bp_clean_the_oil_spill_click_here_to/May 18 22:00
TechrightsTitle: You can help BP clean the oil spill. Click here to donate. : reddit.com .::. Size~: 439.98 KBMay 18 22:00
schestowitzMinceR: I think their site got cracked :-) I couldn't make my donationMay 18 22:09
MinceR:)May 18 22:09
schestowitzBP just cursed meMay 18 22:09
schestowitzYou know what we should do? We should give BP's pipe a giant vasectomyMay 18 22:11
cubezzzlolMay 18 22:25
cubezzzhere's a cute Microsoft joke:May 18 22:26
cubezzz"Windows 2001: A (disk) Space Odyssey (to the store to get a bigger HD)"May 18 22:26
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cubezzzstill true today :)May 18 22:27
MinceRindeedMay 18 22:27
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cubezzzrogers??May 18 22:31
ender2070yeahMay 18 22:32
ender2070im not @ home right nowMay 18 22:33
ender2070just had a mono booster send me a nasty emailMay 18 22:33
cubezzzoh?May 18 22:33
cubezzztell him you're switching to AROS :)May 18 22:34
ender2070lolMay 18 22:34
ender2070he didnt like that I was going to get go into fedora's repoMay 18 22:34
ender2070the best way to kill mono, get people using something betterMay 18 22:35
ender2070hes afraidMay 18 22:35
cubezzzso many choices nowMay 18 22:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz and Openbytes is nearly 2.May 18 22:36
cubezzzI'm feeling that the evil empire is doomedMay 18 22:36
ender2070on the mailing list in public, I got support from another fedora devMay 18 22:37
ender2070on the go mailing listMay 18 22:37
ender2070he gave me a huge head startMay 18 22:37
ender2070theres already SRPMS for me to work withMay 18 22:37
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8UgFyPF8DE&feature=digestMay 18 23:04
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schestowitz[22:33] <ender2070> just had a mono booster send me a nasty emailMay 18 23:11
schestowitzWhich one?May 18 23:11
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ender2070he was being pseudononymousMay 18 23:13
ender2070and a gmail accountMay 18 23:13
ender2070alihael leahilaMay 18 23:15
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2G3rAkkiQQ&feature=digestMay 18 23:15
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schestowitzender2070: what did it say?May 18 23:16
ender2070ill paste it in a secMay 18 23:16
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ender2070Wow, I just googled your name.  Just wow.May 18 23:18
ender2070Anyway, do you know anything about Go or packaging stuff for Fedora? I'm not overly familiar with the latter personally, but I think they don't just let any old packages into whatever constitutes their  'official' section - i'm sure they've got a contrib/ kind of thing, and perhaps that is a good place to start. How can you feel that you can announce you will be making official packages when, er, I don'tMay 18 23:18
ender2070think you will have the power to do so, at least immediately?May 18 23:18
ender2070Excuse the tone & me sending this message directly to you rather than on-list, naturally.  What can I say, I *like* mono.May 18 23:18
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOHT_dTDQbQMay 18 23:25
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schestowitzender2070: whose name? Mine?May 18 23:26
schestowitzOr is this a paste of the msg?May 18 23:26
schestowitz"he's an android!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK8POoP_vZYMay 18 23:32
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ender2070thats a pasteMay 18 23:33
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MinceRgnMay 18 23:36
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tO3TMlyqyw&NR=1May 18 23:46
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schestowitzender2070: ah, okMay 18 23:46
MinceRwhat, obama has centrism?May 18 23:51

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