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| *tessier sighs | May 21 00:01 | |
| tessier | I've had to deal with some Windows stuff lately :( | May 21 00:01 |
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| tessier | I suck at it and don't know what I am doing. | May 21 00:01 |
| cubezzz | oh? | May 21 00:01 |
| tessier | That upsets people who think everyone should knows Windows. | May 21 00:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Never forget: http://tinyurl.com/auq2 | May 21 00:04 | |
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| cubezzz | tessier, so what is the problem? | May 21 00:09 |
| cubezzz | aside from the fact it's doze :) | May 21 00:09 |
| tessier | The current problem is that this Windows 2000 machine bluescreens. | May 21 00:10 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] I made a Trance version of the Free Software Song Feat RMS: http://tinyurl.com/yjxdpnj CC-BY-SA | May 21 00:16 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Lyrics (written by RMS) are spoken via text to speech (Mbrola). Doh! | May 21 00:19 | |
| *schestowitz back but drunk so won't speak | May 21 00:21 | |
| cubezzz | anyone know of an eprom programmer that works under Linux? | May 21 00:26 |
| cubezzz | like Winbond W29C020C, 32-pin dip | May 21 00:26 |
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| sebsebseb | Ah ha so thats what that guy was on about earlier | May 21 00:35 |
| sebsebseb | VP8 :) | May 21 00:35 |
| sebsebseb | being open source now | May 21 00:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | 慂汬敭慓獹䴠捩潲潳瑦圠獡整楔敭传楖瑳慂汬敭慓獹䴠捩潲潳瑦圠獡整楔敭传楖瑳woah | May 21 00:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | er | May 21 00:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/ajoK77R64lk/Ballmer-Says-Microsoft-Wasted-Time-On-Vista woah | May 21 00:36 |
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| cubezzz | of course | May 21 00:36 |
| sebsebseb | Microsoft wasted time on improving computing properly by making Windows? :D | May 21 00:36 |
| sebsebseb | since they never acheived the improving computing properly goal :D | May 21 00:37 |
| cubezzz | closed source just sucks to support.... | May 21 00:37 |
| sebsebseb | except they never had that gotal, since their goal was, to lock loads of people in to their software, and make money out of them | May 21 00:37 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: yeah closed source :( | May 21 00:38 |
| sebsebseb | I had another Linux gaming discussion earlier | May 21 00:38 |
| sebsebseb | with someone who thinks Linux is rubbish for gaming, and so uses Windows for that | May 21 00:38 |
| sebsebseb | closed source software :( | May 21 00:38 |
| sebsebseb | so what if its a game that has good game play | May 21 00:38 |
| cubezzz | it's closed either way in pro development | May 21 00:39 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm? | May 21 00:39 |
| cubezzz | I think there's a couple who will give you code if you sign an NDA | May 21 00:39 |
| cubezzz | what I mean is companies like LGP are closed source even though they port to Linux | May 21 00:39 |
| cubezzz | same with Loki | May 21 00:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | there is nothing wrong with closed source in the generic sense | May 21 00:40 |
| cubezzz | the original developers aren't going to let you see source code either :) | May 21 00:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | whats wrong is you have companies like Microsoft harassing people who make that choice | May 21 00:40 |
| cubezzz | Diablo-D3, how about you sign an NDA, get code but no documentation or comments? | May 21 00:41 |
| cubezzz | still not too good | May 21 00:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: that statement in of itself doesnt make sense | May 21 00:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | what happens if the code doesnt have docs or comments | May 21 00:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | obviously I cant get them if they dont exist | May 21 00:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | shitty code isnt even limited to closed source | May 21 00:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | I've seen beautiful code thats closed source, I've seen shitty code thats open source | May 21 00:42 |
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| cubezzz | I'd say there's plenty wrong with closed source | May 21 00:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | you can try and say "well, most shitty coders code for closed source", but _most coders of any kind code for closed source_. | May 21 00:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres nothing wrong with the act of making source closed in the purest of generic senses | May 21 00:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | people _do_ have that right | May 21 00:43 |
| cubezzz | that's true | May 21 00:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | its when they use it to attack people | May 21 00:43 |
| cubezzz | it's hardly ideal though | May 21 00:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats the issue | May 21 00:43 |
| _goblin | cubezzz: Id draw your attention to the talent in the demoscene on the amiga, the closely guarded src and the question....is closed src always a bad thing? | May 21 00:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | Microsoft uses closed source to attack even their best customers | May 21 00:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | but they're part of a very small number of companies that exist as the exception, not the rule | May 21 00:44 |
| cubezzz | _goblin, it's bad that I have to use a windows gui program to erase an eprom | May 21 00:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | their software is so bad that all they can do is vendor lock in, and attack people who try to break that lock | May 21 00:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | adobe is the same | May 21 00:45 |
| cubezzz | it's in _always_ bad no, just 99.999% of the time :) | May 21 00:45 |
| cubezzz | is it | May 21 00:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | and apple is trying to head that way (although they're schizophrenic on that) | May 21 00:45 |
| cubezzz | no comments is bad too | May 21 00:45 |
| cubezzz | lots of bad stuff unfortunately | May 21 00:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: no comments has nothing to do with code being open or closed | May 21 00:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | nor does no docs | May 21 00:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | nor does code quality of any kind | May 21 00:46 |
| cubezzz | Diablo-D3, they could strip them out on you | May 21 00:46 |
| cubezzz | right? | May 21 00:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | they could, but then they're not fufilling their end of the contract | May 21 00:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | comments and docs generated from code are part of the code | May 21 00:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | if I get a copy of the code, then I expect to get the whole thing | May 21 00:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | but this is contract law, and has nothing to do with source code. | May 21 00:47 |
| cubezzz | yes I would too :) | May 21 00:47 |
| cubezzz | no way to tell though | May 21 00:47 |
| cubezzz | you'd have to trust them | May 21 00:47 |
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| Diablo-D3 | Why would I trust them? This is what contracts are for. | May 21 00:48 |
| _goblin | cubezzz: Sure, but I think there is a place for closed src and certainly the cracktro's from my youth were something closed...which was recognised as being fine. | May 21 00:49 |
| cubezzz | _goblin, the demo scene can be closed, I don't worry about that | May 21 00:50 |
| cubezzz | I would like to see old games opened up though | May 21 00:50 |
| _goblin | cubezzz: I personally would love to have a look at some of David Brabens code....esp Elite (32k ver) | May 21 00:52 |
| cubezzz | if you're really really keen you can reverse-engineer/decompile | May 21 00:53 |
| _goblin | not that keen! | May 21 00:54 |
| _goblin | I would like to see a book....sort of Braben biography, where he takes us through the dev of Elite. | May 21 00:55 |
| cubezzz | probably easier to learn the theory, and rewrite the program | May 21 00:55 |
| _goblin | great mind though...... | May 21 00:56 |
| _goblin | its a little like me playing a Joe Satriani piece....I may be able to emulate, but I didn't create. | May 21 00:56 |
| cubezzz | creating stuff from stratch is more difficult | May 21 00:57 |
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| cubezzz | if you look at books on interactive graphics, you will see that they don't even bother with program listings | May 21 01:00 |
| cubezzz | it's more abstract than that | May 21 01:01 |
| yuhong | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/02/04/microsoft-apple-net-applications/ | May 21 01:05 |
| yuhong | I don't think that is enough evidence. | May 21 01:05 |
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| yuhong | In contrast, I have read enough evidence on Gartner that I don't trust it's MS coverage anymore. | May 21 01:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Usenet gets attention and Giganews tries to avoid it? http://tinyurl.com/33gosak #bittorrent #tpb #usenet #p2p #nzb #filesharing #piracy | May 21 01:06 | |
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| cubezzz | of course don't trust Gartner :) | May 21 01:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Asterisk Brings #GNU #Linux to Kitchens http://ur1.ca/02e8q | May 21 01:09 | |
| Techrights | Title: Kitchen appliance seller goes Asterisk for UC roll-out - wavelink, VoIP, unified communications, Pronto Software, Linux, digium, asterisk - Computerworld .::. Size~: 78.17 KB | May 21 01:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Has "Succeeded Over a Majority of Problems" http://www.itworld.com/open-source/108314/linux-the-final-frontier | May 21 01:10 | |
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| yuhong | On the other news, Vietnam seems to be a big source of Apple leaks. | May 21 01:11 |
| tessier | There is no law in Vietnam and people there are quite safe from Apple prosecution | May 21 01:12 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Betraying #GNU #Linux Users Bears a High Price http://ur1.ca/02e98 http://ur1.ca/02e99 | May 21 01:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Right now the Ubuntu Facebook page has 184,144 people who like it, I want it to hit 200,000 - lets do it folks! http://is.gd/ci9cJ #ubuntu | May 21 01:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ZaReason Preinstalls #GNU #Linux on New Sub-notebooks http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/7070/1/ | May 21 01:21 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Mark Zuckerberg accused of securities fraud http://ur1.ca/02bg8 #facebooksucks | May 21 01:52 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Craig Venter creates synthetic life form, I want whatever hes on http://ur1.ca/02eeo | May 21 01:52 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Quick tip: many people don't know this, but in Ubuntu hold the Windows key and slide the vertical trackpad scrollline to zoom. :-) #ubuntu | May 21 02:00 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] (of course, that last tip assumes Compiz is switched on) | May 21 02:01 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Who's Ensuring Cleanup Workers are Adequately Trained and Protected? http://ur1.ca/02ejv !science | May 21 02:17 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] geez, i go away for a few yrs & religious right takes over? screw that. http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/05/20/1313213 #australia | May 21 02:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@yukongale yep, 20 million Canadian chickens unemployed. #salmonella #globalisation | May 21 02:19 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right.....Stick a fork in me, im done.....good night all. | May 21 02:45 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Australian harrassment, blocking of @wikileaks only proves how important & necessary the site is. http://bit.ly/dBehOM #Assange #Australia | May 21 02:54 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@grammargirl Tess of the Corner Shop #lesserbooks | May 21 02:54 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Great to see the results of the UI improvements going into OpenOffice.org seeing fruit - some videos at http://is.gd/cifOH - good work, OOo! | May 21 03:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@markmorford #Oil industry to try new safety measures; e.g. turning entire ocean into giant oil slick //that plan was actioned 1 month ago | May 21 03:06 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Bacon's Ubuntu Tip #43432: Pressing Windows Key+S gets you to the tweet from the me menu in a snap. Not sure why I am espousing tips today.. | May 21 03:23 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@YukonGale PM Martin had 4 security. #Harper had 12. Streets shut down 4 Harper, not Martin //cons 'safety' dogma =more paranoia &less safe | May 21 03:32 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@YukonGale #Harper type's ideology. Small minded paranoid schmucks turning our safe society into authoritarian, dangerous wreck #cdnpoli | May 21 03:36 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Harper tories plainly lying with "we didn't raise #abortion issue". It was perfectly deliberate, & Canadians aren't falling for it #cdnpoli | May 21 03:39 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RT @rahulsundaram #Chromium and Chrome for Fedora at http://is.gd/chYMC Just a how to and some clarifications #Fedora !Fedora | May 21 04:52 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@textfiles Unsubscribing from @gruber, ... What a shame. he could actually be something good //long ago gave up. u won't be the last | May 21 04:57 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @ishtarmuz Rupert #Murdoch was a participant or observer in the following events: http://tinyurl.com/yfxq4jp #foxisnotnews #turnofffox | May 21 05:01 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] A #url is what room you're in. Session state is what's in your wallet. #www | May 21 05:04 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Did you know that the world's most marketed schizophrenic diseases are: Atheism and Homosexuality? #DidYouKnow | May 21 05:08 | |
| Omar87 | Hi all. | May 21 05:14 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] "#BP [will] test Costner's machines," spokesman said. "Of course, they need to meet regs wrt discharge." When #BP started caring about regs? | May 21 06:07 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Yep RT @jdub #xkcd abso-fucking-lutely nails it again: http://is.gd/ciqoT #facebook #opensource #microsoft #privacy #stradivarius #gpl | May 21 06:08 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@rayvelline MoD blew up 119 live pigs testing explosive http://bit.ly/but5rZ //amazing isn't it-test on pigs what will later be used on ppl | May 21 06:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @gkjohn: http://twitpic.com/1pks6y - For people in Frazer Town, looks like we are getting gentrified with a new Crossword. | May 21 06:29 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@rayvelline Lying children grow up successful citizens //how to define 'success'? not news lying is lucrative #palin #murdoch #beck #gates | May 21 06:42 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] "انظر كيف ضربوا لك الأمثال فضلوا فلا يستطيعون سبيلا" | May 21 06:43 | |
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| Omar87 | Hi all. | May 21 06:47 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@mrpower Ah! Freshly brewed strong coffee and a cigarette. That'll get the heart pumping // i'll pass on cig but trying #coffee remedy here | May 21 06:49 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux Serves as Success Story and 2.6.35 Now in Development http://ur1.ca/02fyg http://ur1.ca/02fyi http://ur1.ca/02fyk | May 21 07:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Kernel Foundation Grows http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Automation-Development-Lab-Joins-Linux-Foundation-1262057.htm #linux | May 21 07:01 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Wine 1.2 Expected to Comes Next Month http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODI0OQ | May 21 07:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Playing #Windows Games on #GNU #Linux Got Easier http://ur1.ca/02fzj http://ur1.ca/tjqx | May 21 07:06 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Machines With #Fedora -based #Linpus Sell in India http://www.muktware.com/news/17/2010/107 | May 21 07:31 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Interview With #Fedora Leader Paul Frields, Fedora Elections Coming http://ur1.ca/02g44 http://ur1.ca/02g45 | May 21 07:32 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Android and #Linux Run on Dual OS Boot Smartphone http://ur1.ca/02g6b | May 21 07:45 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Tablets with #Linux From #HP , #Dell http://ur1.ca/02g9c http://ur1.ca/02g9d | May 21 08:04 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #WebOS Brings #Linux to Many Printers http://ur1.ca/02g9l http://ur1.ca/02g9m | May 21 08:05 | |
| Techrights | Title: HP: webOS coming to slates and printers - Pocket-lint .::. Size~: 40.81 KB | May 21 08:05 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Yahoo! Restores Link to Free #OpenSource Software http://www.daniweb.com/news/story284787.html#post1225100 | May 21 08:06 | |
| Techrights | Title: Thanks, Yahoo, You Did the Right Thing .::. Size~: 37.17 KB | May 21 08:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Hentammoo!!! RT @jocalling: Oh man! I laughed my a** off reading this!!! - http://www.yentha.com/news/view/5 | May 21 08:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @sunil_abraham: #Transparency and Accountability Initiative investigation into open government data now online. http://bit.ly/ctLhCA | May 21 08:24 | |
| Techrights | Title: Open Data Study | Open Society Institute .::. Size~: 33.59 KB | May 21 08:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @gkjohn: Change you can believe in? - New UK govt to curb CCTV, scrap ID cards, help open source: http://j.mp/9cF50C | May 21 08:27 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #MySQL Release From #Oracle , A Look at Sun's Talent Post #Oracle http://ur1.ca/02gf6 http://ur1.ca/02gf7 | May 21 08:30 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @thej: Urgent: Share Your Views On The Copyright Amendment Bill Within The Next 10 Days http://bit.ly/aVytAo via @nixxin | May 21 08:35 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenOffice .org Claims Many Conversions from Office, Calls for Conference Papers http://ur1.ca/02ggr http://ur1.ca/02ggs | May 21 08:39 | |
| Techrights | Title: Organizations Switching from Microsoft Office Choose OpenOffice Over Google Docs: New Survey by Info-Tech Research Group .::. Size~: 46.06 KB | May 21 08:39 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Ho nou, kom ik me toch niet John -DJR- Vanderaart tegen op Twitter. Hiep hoi! Grote fan van zijn schrijfstijl ;-) | May 21 08:45 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Voor wie niet weet wie DJR is: de man publiceerde de meest schandalige ASM listings in PCM voor AmigaOS en MS-DOS en het MIDI handboek. | May 21 08:54 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] De schrijfstijl van DJR heeft meestal een humoristische ondertoon, niet zo extreem als Jos Visser, maar het komt aardig in de buurt. | May 21 08:58 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Twitter App Liberated http://www.androidspin.com/2010/05/15/official-twitter-app-to-be-open-sourced/ #android | May 21 09:00 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Project Release: #Python 2.7 http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.7.html | May 21 09:00 | |
| Techrights | Title: Official Twitter App to be open-sourced | AndroidSPIN | Your No.1 source for Android news. .::. Size~: 42.7 KB | May 21 09:00 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Ach jee, het SED monster is weer terug op de Microsoft PR site Webwereld. Boycotten die handel! | May 21 09:02 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Conservatives. Can't live with 'em, can't shoot 'em. #RepurposedSexistSlogans #HarperMustGo #cdnpoli #Harper #PMHarper | May 21 09:09 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@0r3z There's a rumour that #sb1070 might affect Mexican citizens. That's Calderón's business. #az #papersPlease | May 21 09:19 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Synthetic cell: The drug war is lost http://bit.ly/8YiV15 and it's the BitTorrent for chemicals. Life gets *weird*. | May 21 09:27 | |
| Techrights | Title: Age of Excessions Interlude: Biology, or the Drugs Win the Drug War. | Quinn Said .::. Size~: 38.13 KB | May 21 09:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #PCBSD: New Test Release Available http://ur1.ca/02gt4 http://ur1.ca/02gt5 #bsd | May 21 09:34 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @diablod3 Mark Zuckerberg accused of securities fraud http://ur1.ca/02bg8 #facebook | May 21 09:39 | |
| Techrights | Title: Facebook CEOs latest woe: accusations of securities fraud | VentureBeat .::. Size~: 54.49 KB | May 21 09:39 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Scientists create a living organism http://ur1.ca/02gup that'll shut up some critics (via @daemonfc ) | May 21 09:43 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @ishtarmuz Rupert #Murdoch was a participant or observer in the following events: http://tinyurl.com/yfxq4jp #foxisnotnews #turnofffox | May 21 09:44 | |
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| schestowitz | wb, Omar87 | May 21 09:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz @diablod3 Zuckerberg accused of securities fraud http://ur1.ca/02bg8 #facebook //parallels w/Gates; can't stay out of courts | May 21 09:49 | |
| Techrights | Title: Facebook CEOs latest woe: accusations of securities fraud | VentureBeat .::. Size~: 54.49 KB | May 21 09:49 |
| schestowitz | Re: Novell Linux Kernel | May 21 09:51 |
| schestowitz | > What license do Novell distribute the Linux kernel under. Is it | May 21 09:52 |
| schestowitz | > covered by any patent cross-licensing agreement ? | May 21 09:52 |
| schestowitz | > | May 21 09:52 |
| schestowitz | > http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/05/20/1712229/Novell-Changes-Enterprise-Linux-Kernel-Mid-Stream | May 21 09:52 |
| schestowitz | Does anyone know? | May 21 09:52 |
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| MinceR | j0 | May 21 09:52 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@KKeneally just heard from #GetUp about yr river redgum initiative! Thankyou for protecting these irreplaceable natural assets from logging | May 21 09:55 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: yo | May 21 10:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IBM to Foster #GNU #Linux Works at Manchester http://www.computerworlduk.com/technology/development/software/news/index.cfm?newsid=20283 | May 21 10:03 | |
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| schestowitz | Jason is trying out LFS "Wondering why I haven’t been blogging too much last week and this?" http://www.the-source.com/2010/05/linux-from-scratch/ | May 21 10:03 |
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| schestowitz | http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_ECONOMY?SITE=CAANG&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT | May 21 10:09 |
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| schestowitz | http://boss.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/20/why-recoveries-can-be-as-difficult-as-recessions/?partner=rss&emc=rss | May 21 10:09 |
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| schestowitz | "The number of people filing new claims for unemployment benefits unexpectedly rose last week by the largest amount in three months. The surge is evidence of how volatile the job market remains, even as the economy grows." | May 21 10:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@glynmoody James #Murdoch Lecture: Celebrating #Copyright’s 300th Birthday // ugh, time for that dynasty to have its final curtain | May 21 10:10 | |
| schestowitz | http://paidcontent.org/article/419-yahoo-buys-associated-content-for-100-million-plus/ | May 21 10:16 |
| Techrights | Title: Updated: Yahoo Buys Associated Content For Reported $90 Million Or So| paidContent .::. Size~: 35.93 KB | May 21 10:16 |
| schestowitz | Wasn't it AP's? | May 21 10:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @qu1j0t3] >@glynmoody James #Murdoch Lecture: Celebrating #Copyright’s 300th Birthday | May 21 10:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Harper, take note. http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2010/may/20/torture-william-hague-terrorism #icc #torture #cia #iraq #afghanistan #uk | May 21 10:19 | |
| Techrights | Title: Torture claims investigation ordered by William Hague | Law | The Guardian .::. Size~: 65.73 KB | May 21 10:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] StrandVision Chooses #Linux for Registers http://www.prweb.com/releases/2010/05/prweb4005544.htm | May 21 10:21 | |
| Techrights | Title: StrandVision Offers Preconfigured Linux Point-of-Display Digital Signage Player .::. Size~: 30.41 KB | May 21 10:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @josephtartakoff New Privacy Charges Leveled At Facebook, http://cnt.to/kAz >I deleted my account last week | May 21 10:23 | |
| Techrights | Title: New Privacy Charges Leveled At Facebook| paidContent .::. Size~: 29.26 KB | May 21 10:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Releases: #Slackware 13.1 RC1; #Toorox 05.2010 With #KDE SC 4.4.3 http://ur1.ca/02hbb http://ur1.ca/02hbc | May 21 10:44 | |
| Techrights | Title: Slackware 13.1 RC1 Is Here - With an updated kernel and other fixes - Softpedia .::. Size~: 48.22 KB | May 21 10:44 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mandriva Carries on, #PCLinuxOS Continues the Legacy http://ur1.ca/02hg3 http://ur1.ca/02hg4 http://ur1.ca/02hg5 | May 21 10:51 | |
| Techrights | Title: Linux and Whatever » Blog Archive » Business as usual for Mandriva? .::. Size~: 9.93 KB | May 21 10:51 |
| Techrights | Title: Best Mandriva Wallpaper Collections from Madriva-Art | Place to share anything .::. Size~: 33.58 KB | May 21 10:51 |
| Techrights | Title: cidtux's blog: Make your PClos Gnome 2010 look like PClos KDE 2010 .::. Size~: 47.67 KB | May 21 10:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Software Patents in the EU: What is needed is clearer legislation: http://ur1.ca/02hgm | May 21 10:53 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @jwildeboer So MSFT lobbying seems to have been successfull in germany. Congrats on giving us #SWpat after Vista... | May 21 10:53 | |
| Techrights | Title: Mueller: German high court declares all software potentially patentable [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 12.67 KB | May 21 10:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] ColoradoLaw: Patents and Free and Open Source Software http://ur1.ca/02hgu | May 21 10:54 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Silicon Flatirons: Patents and Free and Open Source Software http://ur1.ca/02hgy | May 21 10:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Silicon Flatirons: Patents and Free and Open Source Software (with videos) http://ur1.ca/02hgu | May 21 10:56 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody Google’s “Royalty-Free” WebM Video May Not Be Royalty-Free For Long -http://bit.ly/dosIxc | May 21 10:56 | |
| Techrights | Title: Colorado Law :: Patents and Free and Open Source Software .::. Size~: 35.12 KB | May 21 10:56 |
| Techrights | Title: Google's "Royalty-Free" WebM Video in Doubt | John Paczkowski | Digital Daily | AllThingsD .::. Size~: 76.08 KB | May 21 10:56 |
| schestowitz | Sun -> Nokia http://www.nokia.com/press/press-releases/showpressrelease?newsid=1414739 | May 21 10:57 |
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| schestowitz | http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Internship | May 21 11:01 |
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| schestowitz | Is this new? | May 21 11:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Educational Institute Introduces #CentOS (GNU/Linux) Component; http://ur1.ca/02hid http://ur1.ca/02hie | May 21 11:02 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Interview With #Debian Leader Stefano Zacchiroli, Debian News http://ur1.ca/02his http://ur1.ca/02hiu http://ur1.ca/02hiw | May 21 11:02 | |
| Techrights | Title: Another Educational Institute Opens Its Gates to Open Source LINUX For You Magazine .::. Size~: 82.34 KB | May 21 11:02 |
| Techrights | Title: Red Hat News | Paving the Way to Success: Red Hat Services Pathways .::. Size~: 34.56 KB | May 21 11:02 |
| Techrights | Title: polishlinux.org » Stefano Zacchiroli (Debian Leader): Local communities are important .::. Size~: 41.15 KB | May 21 11:02 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Let's be honest. #Software #patents are nothing more than a way for #Microsoft to avoid competing fairly. #swpat #fraud | May 21 11:04 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] ...which is why they've spent like drunken sailors getting #swpat implemented worldwide - now #EU. Myhrvold cheering at Insidious Ventures? | May 21 11:05 | |
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| schestowitz | http://english.aljazeera.net/news/2010/05/201051994155758717.html | May 21 11:23 |
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| schestowitz | Why are they so scared of images? | May 21 11:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Short Reviews of #Ubuntu 10.04, Ubuntu 10.10 Mockups http://ur1.ca/02hog http://ur1.ca/02hoh http://ur1.ca/02hoj | May 21 11:31 | |
| Techrights | Title: 10 things you'll love about Ubuntu 10.4 | 10 Things | TechRepublic.com .::. Size~: 78.92 KB | May 21 11:31 |
| Techrights | Title: Life with Linux: Notes on installing Ubuntu 10.4 LTS | Blog | Bob Sutor .::. Size~: 53.89 KB | May 21 11:31 |
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| schestowitz | Novell is being sold.......... | May 21 11:32 |
| schestowitz | Mission accomplished^tm? | May 21 11:32 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] I think that this London WiFi idea is as silly as Boris Johnson's haircut. How are they going to prevent abuse? | May 21 11:33 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Lets bring in the DEB and then deploy open WiFi in every lampost. Maybe this is a clever way of getting rid of lamposts....after 3 warnings | May 21 11:34 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell takeover may be imminent. It's public now. | May 21 11:35 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] of copyright infringement, they will have to be taken down...(btw WiFi is allegedly to be in every London Lampost) | May 21 11:35 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @Jon_Bartley Church of England's 2nd largest shareholding is in #BP. #cofe #religion #uk #wtf #oil | May 21 11:36 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Now thinking about it, its a damn clever idea, we could put it in Museums and then the goverment can take those down too after 3 warnings. | May 21 11:36 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@Jon_Bartley Church of England's 2nd largest shareholding is in #BP. // what's the first? #BAE? #MBDA? #group4? | May 21 11:39 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Oh and to see the aforementioned silly haircut : http://www.techeye.net/internet/mayor-of-london-promises-full-wi-fi-coverage-by-2012 | May 21 11:39 | |
| Techrights | Title: Mayor of London promises full wi-fi coverage by 2012 - In time for the Olympic Games | TechEye .::. Size~: 21.1 KB | May 21 11:39 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Im going suggest the DHB (Dignified Haircut Bill) if MP's et al don't comply after 3 warnings they get removed from office. | May 21 11:40 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Ballmer: "We Wasted Too Many Years on Vista" - Lol....Thats not what your advocates said at the time.... #windows #microsoft #fud #fail | May 21 11:49 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Whens the #Windows 7 confession Ballmer? Or is it "different" this time? To me its always "different" until you want to flog something new. | May 21 11:50 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2010/05/20/i-hate-websites-with-light-text-on-dark-background/ | May 21 11:54 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] If Novell becomes defunct, Techrights will have many more topics to cover. The good news is that those who pay Microsoft for Linux perish. | May 21 12:00 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.crn.com/software/224900530 | May 21 12:03 |
| schestowitz | 20 bids... | May 21 12:03 |
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| Techrights | 20 bids... | May 21 12:03 |
| schestowitz | Loads | May 21 12:03 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz And what of Mono....will it fizzle out, or will its death throws last for many years as its advocates cling to the "gift" | May 21 12:04 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @_goblin And what of Mono....will it fizzle out, or will its death throws last for many years as its advocates cling to the "gift" | May 21 12:09 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin MSFT can have it | May 21 12:09 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] do Canadians *really* want familiar uncivilised authoritarian pseudo-theocratic failed state that #Harper is preparing? http://bit.ly/agm9Qf | May 21 12:09 | |
| Techrights | Title: Tories surge with Liberals 'mired in unimaginable depths' - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 79.27 KB | May 21 12:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Dear lazyweb, recommendations for a desk/stand based microphone for podcasting? Blocking out noise is good. USB also handy. | May 21 12:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Congratulations, @donblankenship. Looks like you'll get away with everything! AND all the loot! nice going #Massey #death #cleancoal @kagrox | May 21 12:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz I thought they already did! ;) | May 21 12:15 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @GaeMar01 @MikeHitchen #Trafigura 'donations' 2 Jamaican politicians "When is #PNP going to come clean" http://tiny.cc/ywl8h //good Q #uk | May 21 12:21 | |
| Techrights | Title: Jamaica Gleaner News - Samfie politics and bounce back - Commentary - Friday | May 21, 2010 .::. Size~: 34.26 KB | May 21 12:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #CofE investment policies 'provide an outer cleanliness to something that remains preponderantly dubious, or worse' http://bit.ly/ahTqrp #uk | May 21 12:26 | |
| Techrights | Title: Where is the Church of England’s heart invested? | Ekklesia .::. Size~: 40.5 KB | May 21 12:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @rahulsundaram: Google fighting VP8 FUD from MPEG-LA already http://is.gd/ciQ4U | May 21 12:27 | |
| Techrights | Title: Google backs open codec against patent trolls • The Register .::. Size~: 36.84 KB | May 21 12:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Church of England 'sees finance ðics in 2 categories' #CofE http://bit.ly/ahTqrp 'not just bad theology but also..ends rather than means' | May 21 12:29 | |
| Techrights | Title: Where is the Church of England’s heart invested? | Ekklesia .::. Size~: 40.5 KB | May 21 12:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @gsiemens I'm still #Avatar free, though as I understand it, my family watched it last night. quitters. //same here, proudly un-avatarred | May 21 12:30 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Searching in FFII wiki makes the server crash: http://ur1.ca/02iar MoinMoin sucks | May 21 12:46 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@DanRebellato MacBook Pro has been shipped today. Est delivery 1-2 June //u think it's EASY 2 find perfumed winged cherubim in this season? | May 21 12:46 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] BBC News - Renault urged to scrap car name Zoe - WTF? http://tinyurl.com/29o2lzs | May 21 12:48 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] The German Bundestag shares the conviction that technical inventions, even if they contain software, must be patentable http://ur1.ca/02ibf | May 21 12:50 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at the New Release of #LinuxMint http://ur1.ca/02ibg http://ur1.ca/02ibh http://ur1.ca/02ibi | May 21 12:50 | |
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| Techrights | Title: Linux Mint 9 'Isadora' | Muktware .::. Size~: 21.55 KB | May 21 12:50 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @mparent77772 #US film blames #UK 4 #iraq #war http://bit.ly/cWOcMR //#Bush sycophant Blair deserves "equal billing" for the catastrophe | May 21 12:56 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @sunil_abraham: Govt nod for ‘standardised approach' to collect data under #UID project http://bit.ly/dw2gEd | May 21 13:03 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Creative interpretation at the European Patent Office http://ur1.ca/02if9 | May 21 13:05 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Do you spot what Philip Martin from Marks&Clerk got wrong http://ur1.ca/02ifi | May 21 13:06 | |
| Techrights | Title: Inadmissable Referral G03/08 « Sköne Oke .::. Size~: 21.73 KB | May 21 13:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] I had an epidural Wednesday. Not too many guys can claim that. And it feels like the pain is mostly gone! | May 21 13:07 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @sunil_abraham: RT @livemint: After Facebook and Youtube, #Pakistan blocks #Twitter http://bit.ly/9BfhLY | May 21 13:07 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Monty Ballmer – The Life of Vista http://tinyurl.com/34vdo2r #microsoft #windows #mvp #xp #vista #msft #ballmer #fail | May 21 13:08 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @sunil_abraham: Cabinet allows use of biometrics for #UID http://bit.ly/bFtI2Y Children have to update their biometric info every 5y, and | May 21 13:08 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux Powers #NAS Devices from Synology America http://ur1.ca/02igx http://ur1.ca/02igy | May 21 13:14 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] To me via email ".....you are a complete sh*t with no regard to the harm you cause..." Great stuff..! http://tinyurl.com/35tks8b as I said! | May 21 13:17 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Gains in Brazilian Businesses, United states Has Success Story Too http://ur1.ca/02ihw http://ur1.ca/02ihx | May 21 13:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] The reality is that these patent trolls are unfortunately just part of doing business and technology these days http://ur1.ca/02iio | May 21 13:22 | |
| Techrights | Title: Salesforce.com's Benioff likens Microsoft to patent 'alley thug' | ZDNet .::. Size~: 95.58 KB | May 21 13:22 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware is More Than Just a Licence http://ur1.ca/02iiy http://ur1.ca/uv4t | May 21 13:26 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Changes in #Mozilla Needed Ahead of Competition With Other Free#Software http://ur1.ca/02ijm http://ur1.ca/02ijn http://ur1.ca/02ijo | May 21 13:31 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #SaaS With #FreeSoftware: Now as a Distribution Too http://ur1.ca/02io1 http://ur1.ca/02io2 | May 21 13:56 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Signs of #FreeSoftware Tolerance in New UK Government, Europe http://ur1.ca/02iok http://ur1.ca/02iol | May 21 13:58 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @anivar UID is Microsoft's | May 21 13:58 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Free #ESB Software Used by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) http://ur1.ca/02iph http://ur1.ca/02ipj | May 21 14:01 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] _goblin whom from? Anon? | May 21 14:02 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin whom from? Anon? | May 21 14:03 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Open Hardware Gains Traction http://ur1.ca/02iqk http://ur1.ca/02iql | May 21 14:04 | |
| Techrights | Title: Startups Kits Help You Hack Your Home | Gadget Lab | Wired.com .::. Size~: 79.75 KB | May 21 14:04 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Updates on Action Against #ACTA and #debill http://ur1.ca/01msu http://ur1.ca/02irp http://ur1.ca/02irq | May 21 14:08 | |
| Techrights | Title: Written Declaration 12 on ACTA: halfway there, participation still needed! | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 24.47 KB | May 21 14:08 |
| Techrights | Title: Ofcom cooks up a 3-strikes fudge - industry to do it themselves - IpTegrity.com .::. Size~: 34.58 KB | May 21 14:09 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] @schestowitz Check http://thefishpond.in #uid | May 21 14:34 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @Greenpeace 'Inspectors say #BP Alaskan pipeline needs attention' http://bit.ly/9iTHgc - Sounds oddly familiar //send Sarah, #oil expert | May 21 14:41 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #followfriday @Jon_Bartley sent me the most interesting link I've seen for a while. | May 21 14:43 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @qu1j0t3 RT @Greenpeace 'Inspectors say #BP Alaskan pipeline needs attention' http://bit.ly/9iTHgc - Sounds oddly familiar | May 21 14:50 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @anivar thanks for the link. I wrote about the subject in, e.g. http://techrights.org/2010/01/27/gaining-private-access/ | May 21 14:51 | |
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| schestowitz | Does anyone here know the licence of the Novell kernel? | May 21 14:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Advocates of Free/Open Source and Standards Do Not Welcome #EU ICT Plan (Digital Agenda) http://ur1.ca/02j0u #swpats #standards | May 21 15:01 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Eweek: German Court Declares Software Patents Legal http://ur1.ca/02j1q | May 21 15:04 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] VP8 copies too much from H264 for anyone sane to be comfortable with it, no matter who is behind saying it is patentfree http://ur1.ca/02j2c | May 21 15:10 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] VP8: patent trolls are currently waiting to pounce as soon as the standard gets a foothold http://ur1.ca/02j2c | May 21 15:11 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Slashdot: MPEG-LA Considering Patent Pool For VP8/WebM, Google needs to do a better job at showing patent clearance http://ur1.ca/02j5z | May 21 15:27 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Nice weather, time to buy a new barbeque! | May 21 15:29 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] just created a 'TODO' lable in my inbox. | May 21 15:29 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @glynmoody Successful approaches to open #government - http://bit.ly/9Wolrw use #Facebook? really? // *GROAN* | May 21 15:36 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz it was from a name, but as is the case with much ms faithful advocacy, the name was fake. | May 21 15:36 | |
| Techrights | Title: Wikinomics Successful approaches to open government .::. Size~: 46.27 KB | May 21 15:36 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] ECIS statement did not say anything about swpats http://ur1.ca/02j8m | May 21 15:37 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] On way into work.....far too hot... | May 21 15:39 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Who to Blame for Germany’s Dangerous Decision Regarding Software Patents http://ur1.ca/02j9o #swpats | May 21 15:40 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Salesforce CEO About #Microsoft : “They’re Basically the Alley Thugs” http://ur1.ca/02jea #swpats #racketeering #linux #server | May 21 16:00 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Morning all! How are we doing today? | May 21 16:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Today we have a new Shot Of Jaq! Big G On TV - http://is.gd/cj6ax - yesterday's Google TV gets the Shot Of Jaq treatment #shotofjaq | May 21 16:01 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Confusing the player piano (which is patentable) with the specific arrangement of notes on a piano roll (not patentable) http://ur1.ca/02jgf | May 21 16:09 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @natfriedman: Playable HTML5 Pacman Google logo http://google.com/? Wow! Insert coin twice for two-player with Ms. Pacman. | May 21 16:28 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Patent Troll Larry Horn and Steve Jobs Prepare to Attack Google’s #VP8 , According to #FUD Sites http://ur1.ca/02jmr #swpats #theora | May 21 16:39 | |
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| cubezzz | google is showing pac man | May 21 16:46 |
| cubezzz | 30th anniversary? | May 21 16:46 |
| cubezzz | wow, I feel old | May 21 16:46 |
| cubezzz | I wonder if there's still arcades at all now | May 21 16:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres always mame | May 21 16:51 |
| cubezzz | yeah | May 21 16:51 |
| cubezzz | xmame kept getting slower and slower though | May 21 16:52 |
| cubezzz | I guess I could set up a freedos box | May 21 16:53 |
| cubezzz | haven't looked at mame for a while | May 21 16:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Cheese Webcam video recording sucks. unable to record more then 1 minute. vlc cannot recored webcam sound at my system. ffmpeg give error | May 21 17:04 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Any suggestion ? RT: @nsisodiya: Cheese Webcam video recording sucks. unable to record more then 1 minute. vlc cannot recored webcam sound | May 21 17:04 | |
| MinceR | kill, mame and dismember | May 21 17:07 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @stewarttownsend: The art of community by jono bacon great book, free as pdf download as well. | May 21 17:21 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Siemens' and #Microsoft 's Actions in #Germany May Harm KDE http://ur1.ca/02jwn #swpats #kde #amarok #uspto #patent | May 21 17:23 | |
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| jono_ | schestowitz did you check out the new Shot Of Jaq? | May 21 17:28 |
| schestowitz | jono_: not yet | May 21 17:28 |
| schestowitz | I download in 'retail' quantities, listening to entire series of podcasts at any one time | May 21 17:29 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: /. is linking to Murdoch's trashloid All Things Deeeee | May 21 17:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] What happen to theora ? Why webm ? any comparison Or it is just a Google effect ! (why google re-develop open things ) @google ? #ogg #webm | May 21 17:30 | |
| schestowitz | They promote his whole 'content'-with-DRM plot | May 21 17:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @zoobab ECIS statement did not say anything about #swpats http://ur1.ca/02j8m >maybe cause it's a front for IBM et al. | May 21 17:32 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @nsisodiya Google already sponsored Ogg. They can work together. #Theora folks are happy about Google's VP8 (Monty for example) | May 21 17:36 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Steve Ballmer Tossed J Allard for Failing With Courier — Claim http://techrights.org/2010/05/21/j-allard-rumours/ #windows #ereader #zune | May 21 17:46 | |
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| Techrights | Title: Steve Ballmer Tossed J Allard for Failing With Courier Claim | Techrights .::. Size~: 94.09 KB | May 21 17:47 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] + @schestowitz @hiddenharmony @pranesh_prakash Thanks , We webm will rule whole world now. it will kill ogg but OK as long as webm is open | May 21 17:48 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Best statement against software patents - "Patents are like every teenager carrying a hand gun - By Monty | May 21 17:57 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] checkout how Indian children enjoy Linux #schoolos http://tinyvid.tv/show/1a1b2tc549d8v http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvds77Ct7Ow | May 21 18:00 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Lied About #Vista for Several Years and It is Now Lying About #Vista7 http://ur1.ca/02k7h #pr #windows | May 21 18:15 | |
| Techrights | Title: Microsoft Lied About Vista for Several Years and It is Now Lying About Vista 7 | Techrights .::. Size~: 99.79 KB | May 21 18:15 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: http://identi.ca/notice/33071181 | May 21 18:17 |
| Techrights | Title: Jan Wildeboer (jwildeboer) 's status on Friday, 21-May-10 16:33:17 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.18 KB | May 21 18:17 |
| schestowitz | Conflict of interests | May 21 18:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @jwildeboer being involved in ECIS myself, I disagree they are a front for IBM only. >I said "et al." (Red Hat is still in IBM's pocket) | May 21 18:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Great to see Effie blogging about his Ubuntu MOTU adventures - http://is.gd/cjgBv #ubuntu | May 21 18:18 | |
| Techrights | Title: MOTU log entry #15: Where to begin and a tricky sync. « effiejayxs blog .::. Size~: 23.88 KB | May 21 18:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Hats off Google!! Todays #doodle is just .. oh, I have lost my words! #pacman http://google.com | May 21 18:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Kids says, Linux is easy http://post.ly/gsFo | May 21 18:21 | |
| Techrights | Title: Kids says, Linux is easy - LUG@IITD Community Blog .::. Size~: 29.65 KB | May 21 18:21 |
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| schestowitz | load average: 5.43, 4.02, 3.48 | May 21 18:26 |
| schestowitz | This has become kind of normal.... the server serves slowly despite caching | May 21 18:26 |
| schestowitz | Is there any other trick to reduce load? | May 21 18:26 |
| cubezzz | http://xkcd.com/743/ | May 21 18:41 |
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| schestowitz | I saw in the morning | May 21 18:41 |
| schestowitz | hey, cubezzz, why don't you make an identica account? | May 21 18:41 |
| cubezzz | hmmm? | May 21 18:42 |
| cubezzz | I guess I'm too old school or something | May 21 18:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell ’s end as a publicly-traded company seems inevitable based on the plan to have an auction http://ur1.ca/02kdv | May 21 18:43 | |
| Techrights | Title: Novell is Surrounded by Potential Buyers of the Company | Techrights .::. Size~: 99.18 KB | May 21 18:44 |
| cubezzz | you know it was never very good... | May 21 18:44 |
| cubezzz | re: wordprocessors | May 21 18:44 |
| cubezzz | we used paperclip on Commodore PET in the old days | May 21 18:46 |
| cubezzz | it was actually not bad to use | May 21 18:46 |
| cubezzz | I honestly do not like open office for wordprocessor | May 21 18:47 |
| cubezzz | too slow, too much a memory hog | May 21 18:50 |
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| schestowitz | "It's funny that we were just talking about Microsoft's use of controlled publications to create "experts" that promote Microsoft." | May 21 19:00 |
| schestowitz | I got some info... :-) | May 21 19:00 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: same here, re office suites | May 21 19:00 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] VLC with WebM/VP8 preview version (Windows): http://people.videolan.org/~jb/webm/ | May 21 19:05 | |
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| bentkus | long live the free software foundation! | May 21 19:07 |
| schestowitz | I does live long :-) | May 21 19:11 |
| schestowitz | Longer than Linux... GNU at least | May 21 19:11 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] NetworkWorld’s (and IDG’s Other Sites) “Open Source” Blogs Are Not in Favour of Open Source http://ur1.ca/02kmo #foss #idg #idc | May 21 19:19 | |
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| DaemonFC | it's almost comical that my state representative is sending out a full page color campaign ad at taxpayer expense while he says in the mailer that he is helping to "control spending and curb waste" | May 21 19:19 |
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| sebsebseb | May 21 19:25 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm talking to a guy at the statehouse about that :P | May 21 19:26 |
| cubezzz | mainly I use vim | May 21 19:30 |
| cubezzz | a text only word processor that could read doc would be useful too | May 21 19:30 |
| cubezzz | uh, and not to forget emacs :) | May 21 19:31 |
| cubezzz | because you know it's Stallman-approved :) | May 21 19:32 |
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| cubezzz | oh another Microsoft joke... | May 21 19:33 |
| cubezzz | "The day Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck, is the day they make a vacuum cleaner." | May 21 19:33 |
| *WireWulf-away is now known as WireWulf | May 21 19:34 | |
| cubezzz | I forgot catdoc :) | May 21 19:35 |
| cubezzz | catdoc ftw | May 21 19:35 |
| WireWulf | M$ has had one good product.......they quit working on it after they fucked it up | May 21 19:36 |
| cubezzz | hmmm? | May 21 19:36 |
| cubezzz | what was that? | May 21 19:36 |
| WireWulf | DOS 1.0 - 3.0 | May 21 19:37 |
| cubezzz | not only that, they also killed DR DOS | May 21 19:38 |
| cubezzz | but at least we have freedos | May 21 19:38 |
| WireWulf | yeah but lol | May 21 19:39 |
| WireWulf | M$ only had one good product for a short time | May 21 19:39 |
| *cubezzz thinks | May 21 19:39 | |
| cubezzz | Xenix wasn't too bad | May 21 19:39 |
| cubezzz | I should also mention xls2csv which converts excel files to comma separated values | May 21 19:42 |
| cubezzz | should be in every GNU person's toolkit | May 21 19:42 |
| WireWulf | xenix isn't that what xbox's frimware os is based on? | May 21 19:43 |
| cubezzz | uh, not sure, but original SCO bought it back in 1989 | May 21 19:44 |
| cubezzz | so not very likely | May 21 19:45 |
| cubezzz | ""Microsoft announces Microsoft Xenix OS, a portable operating system for 16-bit microprocessors. It is an interactive, multiuser, multitasking system that will run on Intel 8086, Zilog Z8000, Motorola M68000, and DEC PDP-11 series." | May 21 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | "By the time a person sees their paycheck, a fourth of it is gone from taxes, and then there's a 7% sales tax on anything you buy with the money left over." | May 21 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | -me | May 21 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 21 19:46 |
| cubezzz | note that word portable! | May 21 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | part of my discussion is how badly our 7% state sales tax is backfiring | May 21 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | and encouraging people to buy things over the internet from out of state companies | May 21 19:46 |
| WireWulf | weil i am lucky | May 21 19:48 |
| cubezzz | "By 1980, the UNIX family tree had split into three distinct major branches: | May 21 19:48 |
| cubezzz | 1. AT&T UNIX System III from Bell Labs’ UNIX Support Group (USG). | May 21 19:48 |
| cubezzz | 2. Berkeley Standard Distribution 4.1 from UCB. | May 21 19:48 |
| cubezzz | 3. XENIX 3.0 from Microsoft and SCO. | May 21 19:48 |
| cubezzz | " | May 21 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | part of it was about setting tougher conditions for companies to meet to qualify for "tax credits" | May 21 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | to avoid encouraging predatory employers to make more jobs that nobody can live on to get more "credits" | May 21 19:48 |
| WireWulf | state tax is 8% | May 21 19:48 |
| cubezzz | "Xenix: Microcomputer Operating System of the Future!” ;-) | May 21 19:49 |
| WireWulf | lol | May 21 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | I should have ran for the state house | May 21 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | you only have to be 21 | May 21 19:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100519/1615029494.shtml | May 21 19:49 |
| Techrights | Title: Obama Reiterates Support For ACTA, As More People Point Out How Far ACTA Is From The Purpose Of Copyright | Techdirt .::. Size~: 58.46 KB | May 21 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | of course, I meet the requirements for state senate too (26) :) | May 21 19:49 |
| WireWulf | i do think i remember reading Xenix was used in the xbox680 project | May 21 19:49 |
| WireWulf | i am only 21 | May 21 19:50 |
| WireWulf | who'd vote for me | May 21 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | Senator Farmer | May 21 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | that sounds nice :D | May 21 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | the "Farmer Amendment" | May 21 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 21 19:50 |
| WireWulf | Senator Wulf | May 21 19:51 |
| schestowitz | Former | May 21 19:51 |
| cubezzz | here is the strange part guys... | May 21 19:51 |
| cubezzz | :For six years (approximately from 1984 till 1990) Microsoft was one of the leading Unix vendors, the provider of the first cheap large volume commercial Unix and, simultaneously, owner of a major branch of Unix -- Xenix" | May 21 19:51 |
| WireWulf | yup | May 21 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: My mailbox now reads: "421 C + 421 1/2 + 421 1/2 B - FARMER - HAVE A NICE DAY! :)" | May 21 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | the utility companies all say I live at 421 1/2 or 421 1/2 B which don't exist | May 21 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | and I live at 421 C | May 21 19:52 |
| cubezzz | it's clear now that they killed off Xenix to bring Doze into the fore-front | May 21 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | the post office won't fix it, the city planner wants money to fix it | May 21 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | some mailbox stickers cost me $1 | May 21 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | so I went with that | May 21 19:53 |
| cubezzz | no need for a portable os *cough cough* | May 21 19:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] This picture made me *lol* http://www.blogicalthoughts.com/images/signs/1200_signs.jpg | May 21 19:53 | |
| WireWulf | hehe | May 21 19:53 |
| Techrights | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KB | May 21 19:53 |
| WireWulf | there is a major need for a good portable os | May 21 19:53 |
| WireWulf | now | May 21 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | my phone runs a Linux based system of some sort | May 21 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | with Java applets | May 21 19:54 |
| WireWulf | most phones are unix based | May 21 19:54 |
| WireWulf | iphone is bsd | May 21 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | they offered me a Windows phone at first | May 21 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | I flat out refused that one | May 21 19:55 |
| WireWulf | lol winfail phone | May 21 19:55 |
| WireWulf | droid and android are linux | May 21 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | I want something that works, not something full of bugs and DRM that has worms running around | May 21 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 21 19:55 |
| WireWulf | lol | May 21 19:55 |
| cubezzz | this Xenix historian doesn't seem to talk about BSD much | May 21 19:55 |
| WireWulf | BSD scares ppl | May 21 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Xenix eventually become SCO UnixWare | May 21 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | iirc | May 21 19:56 |
| WireWulf | linux isnt unixx ;) | May 21 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | "Here, use our crappy SCO Unix with outdated apps that only we could port for you" | May 21 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | I think they're still using Firefox 2.x | May 21 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | for example | May 21 19:57 |
| cubezzz | he's basically saying Linux came largely from Xenix | May 21 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | uhhhm, no | May 21 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft never released Xenix as any kind of open source | May 21 19:58 |
| cubezzz | yeah, he is saying that though... let me find the quote | May 21 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | but then, they're alleging "stolen source code" right? | May 21 19:58 |
| WireWulf | major parts of linux came from both bsd and miniX | May 21 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | the closest thing to "what Linux came from" is Minix | May 21 19:58 |
| cubezzz | read this: | May 21 19:58 |
| cubezzz | "The second important fact that is often overlooked by naive or crooked Linux zealots is that Microsoft was essentially a software company that controls and extends the PC hardware standard. Without huge Microsoft investments in PC hardware standard there can be no any substantial base for Linux at all because price of hardware is discounted due to the volume of Microsoft software sells. In this sense Linux is a side effect of Microsoft dominance, a | May 21 19:58 |
| cubezzz | bastard child of DOS and Windows and no number of Linus Torvalds interviews can change the fact that he just replicated Microsoft's abandoned effort with Xenix" | May 21 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | and the only Minix related code in Linux 2.0 or later is the file system driver | May 21 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | which isn't even the Minix driver | May 21 19:59 |
| cubezzz | sounds very wrong to me | May 21 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | the Linux kernel supports many things that aren't of any use to any PC user, but you have the option to build in anyway | May 21 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu does this | May 21 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 21 20:00 |
| WireWulf | module system has some reflection of the miniX micro kernel system | May 21 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | they even build drivers for hardware that only exists in PCs too old for their kernel to run on | May 21 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | they are idiots | May 21 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | rubbernecking idiots | May 21 20:00 |
| cubezzz | excuse me? | May 21 20:01 |
| cubezzz | who does this? | May 21 20:01 |
| cubezzz | Ubuntu ? | May 21 20:01 |
| WireWulf | buntu | May 21 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: ISA slots in a kernel that only works on a Pentium II or later | May 21 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | makes sense right? | May 21 20:01 |
| cubezzz | NO | May 21 20:01 |
| cubezzz | I have ISA :) | May 21 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu builds ISA drivers | May 21 20:01 |
| cubezzz | I have dual P3 with two ISA slots | May 21 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | no Pentium II era system that I've seen has ISA | May 21 20:02 |
| cubezzz | actually that would work then :) | May 21 20:02 |
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| cubezzz | wait a sec... I have ISA slots! | May 21 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | they have the damned PC speaker drivers | May 21 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | I always leave those out on kernels I build | May 21 20:02 |
| cubezzz | Tyan 1832 and 1846 both have ISA slots, probably others too | May 21 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | I don't want my PC beeping at me | May 21 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 21 20:03 |
| WireWulf | :P | May 21 20:03 |
| WireWulf | i offton exclude stuff thati dont use | May 21 20:03 |
| WireWulf | in my kernels | May 21 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | I actually used my PC speaker as a sound card at one point | May 21 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | about 20 years ago | May 21 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | with the Microsoft PC Speaker Driver | May 21 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 21 20:03 |
| cubezzz | bah, Ubuntu is not good | May 21 20:04 |
| cubezzz | sorry to say that | May 21 20:04 |
| bentkus | about 20 years ago i shat my pants | May 21 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | you would too if a sound card cost $500 and all you wanted to play was DOOM :) | May 21 20:04 |
| WireWulf | about 20 years ago i was 1 :P | May 21 20:04 |
| bentkus | yeah me too WireWulf | May 21 20:04 |
| bentkus | thats why i shat my pants | May 21 20:04 |
| cubezzz | youngsters :) | May 21 20:04 |
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| WireWulf | however about 15 years ago i messed with a apple II se4 :P | May 21 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | 20 years ago I was 6 | May 21 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | kind of hard for a 6 year old to cough up $500 | May 21 20:05 |
| cubezzz | how can I talk about how great the 80's was if all you guys are less than 30? | May 21 20:06 |
| *WireWulf coughs up $500000000000000000 zennie | May 21 20:06 | |
| DaemonFC | but I already had two computers in my bedroom :P | May 21 20:06 |
| WireWulf | i didnt have a pc in my bed room till i was 14 | May 21 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | a Commodore 64 and an 386 PC clone from Compaq | May 21 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | complete with DR-DOS | May 21 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 21 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | I eventually slapped MS-DOS and Windows 3.11 on it | May 21 20:07 |
| cubezzz | let me tell you what the 70's was like for computers... | May 21 20:07 |
| WireWulf | mmm win 3 | May 21 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | I borrowed the disks my aunt borrowed from work | May 21 20:07 |
| cubezzz | it wasn't pretty :) | May 21 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | copied them all | May 21 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 21 20:07 |
| WireWulf | 70's lead to the waring era of the unixx based os's | May 21 20:07 |
| WireWulf | 80-earily 90's | May 21 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | May 21 20:08 |
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| DaemonFC | everybody selling you UNIX and nobody selling you the version that was compatible or even behaved like anyone elses | May 21 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | that must have been some fun times | May 21 20:08 |
| cubezzz | it wasn't | May 21 20:09 |
| cubezzz | believe me, it sucked | May 21 20:09 |
| cubezzz | that's what pushed me into Amiga | May 21 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | the UNIX mess was what brought Microsoft and Apple to the forefront | May 21 20:09 |
| WireWulf | late 80's you had linux(late 80's),BSD,Unix,Unix system,SCO Unix, and the hobbist miniX | May 21 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | no, Linux 0.01 was 1991 | May 21 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | November | May 21 20:10 |
| WireWulf | linux started in 87-88ish | May 21 20:10 |
| cubezzz | no Linux in the 80's dude | May 21 20:10 |
| WireWulf | with kernel 0.0.9 | May 21 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | Minix was probably the most affordable way to run a unix system back then | May 21 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | think the book with the disks was $70 | May 21 20:11 |
| WireWulf | sxhockingly MiniX is still around | May 21 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, it's not a bad system for what it can do | May 21 20:11 |
| cubezzz | my understanding is Linus started deveopment in 1991 | May 21 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | it's not meant to do everything you can conceivably do | May 21 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | so it's remained pretty bloat-free | May 21 20:11 |
| WireWulf | linus started the dev as a real os not as a hobby project in 1991 | May 21 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | it was a hobby back then | May 21 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | written around the 386 PC that Linus had | May 21 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | the goal of his back then was learn how to use every function of the 386 | May 21 20:13 |
| cubezzz | the real OSes didn't start until we had affordable 386's | May 21 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | which angered people with other hardware | May 21 20:13 |
| cubezzz | except for Amiga | May 21 20:13 |
| cubezzz | I think one of the Amigas had an MMU in the 80's | May 21 20:13 |
| cubezzz | Amiga 2500 I think | May 21 20:13 |
| WireWulf | like miniX's owner said miniX was just for the hobbist elite wail conversing with linus over linux | May 21 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | Tanenbaum (Minix) argued in favor of 286 compatibility because it was what was affordable at the time | May 21 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | which was obviously not a forward looking argument | May 21 20:14 |
| cubezzz | no MMU | May 21 20:14 |
| WireWulf | true | May 21 20:14 |
| cubezzz | unless there was an add-on, but I've never heard of one for 286 | May 21 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | the only add on for the 286 that I am aware of was the XMS board | May 21 20:14 |
| WireWulf | however linux did not start being widely know till i486 hardware was easily gotten | May 21 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | which gave you 1 MB of extra RAM as "Expanded RAM" | May 21 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | that's when the whole high and low memory crapfest started with DOS | May 21 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | and programs had to be XMS aware | May 21 20:15 |
| cubezzz | bank switching is an old idea | May 21 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | then when extra RAM was no longer an entire board, it became EMS, "Extended Memory" | May 21 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | and programs written for XMS would not recognize EMS | May 21 20:16 |
| cubezzz | really everything started to gell in 1989 | May 21 20:16 |
| cubezzz | for the hobbyist, 386 and Amiga 2500 were both around the late 80's period | May 21 20:16 |
| WireWulf | 1990 cubezzz 1990 | May 21 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | so EMM386 and QEMM86 were drivers that could take EMS and emulate it as XMS | May 21 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | to fool programs expecting XMS to work | May 21 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 21 20:16 |
| cubezzz | it's better to be off the MIcrosoft wagon | May 21 20:17 |
| WireWulf | 1990 is the start of the current era of computing | May 21 20:17 |
| cubezzz | yeah OK :) | May 21 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | unfortunately, if you had it emulating XMS, it wasn't usable by programs wanting EMS | May 21 20:17 |
| cubezzz | it was around that time | May 21 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | so you had to create a separate config.sys and autoexec.bat for when you wanted XMS | May 21 20:17 |
| cubezzz | I was using Amiga in 1988 | May 21 20:17 |
| WireWulf | with dev work on window 95 starting and the html and http of the internet killing BBS | May 21 20:17 |
| cubezzz | it had MS DOS beat by a kilometer :) | May 21 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | and copy them over config.sys and autoexec.ba and reboot | May 21 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | it was a nightmare | May 21 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | there was no way to make every DOS program happy, because all pre-386 programs wanted XMS, and all 386 programs wanted EMS | May 21 20:18 |
| cubezzz | two computers? :) | May 21 20:18 |
| cubezzz | or just buy an Amiga :) | May 21 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: No, different boot config files that emulate XMS | May 21 20:19 |
| cubezzz | you see MS DOS wasn't that great | May 21 20:19 |
| WireWulf | x/me decided this day should be for the falling of bbs (1968-1993) | May 21 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | then switch back to the ones that give you EMS and reboot again :D | May 21 20:19 |
| cubezzz | in 1968 guys were building crystal radio sets :) | May 21 20:19 |
| cubezzz | there was nothing for computer in 1968 for home brew | May 21 20:19 |
| WireWulf | true | May 21 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 3.11 would not boot on a 286 | May 21 20:20 |
| WireWulf | but that is when the BBS idea in companies started | May 21 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | it also required EMM386 and HIMEM.SYS to be loaded or it wouldn't start | May 21 20:20 |
| WireWulf | public bbs was 197o's ish | May 21 20:21 |
| cubezzz | I sure don't remember and BBS from the 70's | May 21 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | I eventually sprang for a "Disney Sound Source" which was basically a poor man's sound card, monaural, and hooked up to a parallel port :D | May 21 20:21 |
| cubezzz | back then almost no one owned a computer | May 21 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | DOS apps had to be aware of it | May 21 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | Windows had a driver for it though | May 21 20:22 |
| cubezzz | well the idea of cards was good of course | May 21 20:22 |
| cubezzz | but ISA is pretty dead now | May 21 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | well, sound cards are mostly a waste of money now | May 21 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | Winmodem problem is largely gone | May 21 20:23 |
| WireWulf | video cards are dieing out | May 21 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | about the only thing left that you need a card for is video acceleration | May 21 20:23 |
| cubezzz | what? no way :) | May 21 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | motherboards will never give you decent GPUs | May 21 20:23 |
| cubezzz | video cards are not dying out | May 21 20:23 |
| cubezzz | that's crazy talk | May 21 20:24 |
| WireWulf | most newer computer have a built in gpu | May 21 20:24 |
| cubezzz | then they are building bic lighter computers | May 21 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | it will be at least 10 years before the fabrication process is good enough to build a reasonably good GPU into the motherboard | May 21 20:24 |
| cubezzz | why even bother with slots then? | May 21 20:24 |
| WireWulf | i profer the card model | May 21 20:24 |
| cubezzz | yes, for sure | May 21 20:24 |
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| cubezzz | you can replace a defective card | May 21 20:25 |
| WireWulf | and upgrade | May 21 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | sound cards are a waste of money for most people, pretty much anything under $100 won't have more features than the one on your motherboard :P | May 21 20:25 |
| cubezzz | DaemonFC, you're forgetting old farts like me running ancient hardware | May 21 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | I'm pretty much happy with my integrated sound card | May 21 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | the great thing about it is that not only does it work well, but since it's integrated, every OS supports it | May 21 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | no driver conflicts to dick around with | May 21 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | no binary blob if I run Linux | May 21 20:27 |
| WireWulf | i happen to blow sound cards alot | May 21 20:27 |
| cubezzz | no binary blob for most sound cards | May 21 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | you go with some card like Creative, and you just get whatever piss poor support they give you | May 21 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | especially with Linux | May 21 20:27 |
| cubezzz | screw 'em, just buy old hardware then | May 21 20:28 |
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| DaemonFC | remember when Vista torpedoed older sound cards from Creative, and some guy fixed the problem and they sued him? | May 21 20:28 |
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| cubezzz | in this case, older really is better | May 21 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | and their high end cards have poor Linux drivers | May 21 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | blobs, only support OSS, that kind of crap | May 21 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | you know why they sued him? if he could fix it, they sure as hell could | May 21 20:29 |
| WireWulf | i profer interchangeable config | May 21 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | but hardware not working = more sales of the newer model | May 21 20:29 |
| cubezzz | yes, it's an old trick | May 21 20:29 |
| cubezzz | no one knows that better than me | May 21 20:29 |
| cubezzz | that's what finally got me off Doze for keeps | May 21 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | every person that used his "patched" driver was one less $100-300 sound card sale for them | May 21 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | they didn't want that hardware to work | May 21 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | it's the same story with printers | May 21 20:30 |
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| WireWulf | some printers like unixx tho | May 21 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | Windows + add-on card drivers = planned obsolescence | May 21 20:31 |
| WireWulf | true | May 21 20:31 |
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| DaemonFC | yeah, the printer I bought in 2003 still works fine on Linux | May 21 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | Vista won't let me use it | May 21 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 7 won't either | May 21 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | eventually, once your printer is a few years old, you either need Linux or an old version of Windows to keep using it | May 21 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | and that's not a mistake | May 21 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 21 20:32 |
| WireWulf | but windows + intergraded system = buy a new system every time a new doze is relased (sometime just on updates) | May 21 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | nah, integrated stuff always still works | May 21 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | they never bother killing that off on purpose | May 21 20:33 |
| WireWulf | not aways | May 21 20:33 |
| cubezzz | WireWulf, yes exactly | May 21 20:33 |
| cubezzz | that is their business model | May 21 20:33 |
| WireWulf | my hd intel sound on the westinghouse lappy was unsupported by winXP xp3 winVista and win7 | May 21 20:33 |
| WireWulf | *sp3 | May 21 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | you mean it will work on XP SP2? | May 21 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | but not SP3? | May 21 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | that's really odd | May 21 20:34 |
| cubezzz | so why run Windows? You see, there is no real reason | May 21 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | this laptop is on XP SP3 | May 21 20:34 |
| cubezzz | get off the MIcrosoft upgrade treadmill | May 21 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | they sent me a Vista disc, but Vista was way too damned slow | May 21 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | plus it made the laptop heat up to the surface of the sun | May 21 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 21 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | fan constantly running | May 21 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | no Aero Glass effects cause there's no new video drivers | May 21 20:35 |
| cubezzz | whatever, my 12 year old computer works fine :) | May 21 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | so it's like, what would be the point of using Vista? :P | May 21 20:35 |
| cubezzz | no Aero or Compiz or whatever the hell it's called | May 21 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | the open source Linux drivers on this laptop's GPU are too slow | May 21 20:36 |
| WireWulf | aero is a kde clone | May 21 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | and they heat the system up | May 21 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | same problems as Vista pretty much | May 21 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | except the system responds faster | May 21 20:36 |
| cubezzz | DaemonFC, I had pretty good results with my ATI 7500 mobility | May 21 20:36 |
| cubezzz | it's passable for me anyway | May 21 20:37 |
| WireWulf | odd the osd on my ati radion hd 3650 works better then the windows ones | May 21 20:37 |
| cubezzz | older, and cooler | May 21 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I want to go to Fedora + KDE full time, but the terrible webcam support is my main reason not to | May 21 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | I use my webcam, plus then there's the video chat on things like WLM | May 21 20:38 |
| WireWulf | in fact i soft oc'd my gfx card and it still runs cooler | May 21 20:38 |
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| DaemonFC | the closest I can get to a Linux system I could use full time is with GNOME | May 21 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | I know they're evil and most of KDE works better and looks better | May 21 20:38 |
| WireWulf | KDE and GNOME are yuk | May 21 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | but GNOME is more consistent and it has perfect support for my webcam | May 21 20:39 |
| WireWulf | fluxBOXx | May 21 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | I'll check out Fedora 13, the worst that could happen is that I wasted a blank disc | May 21 20:39 |
| cubezzz | WireWulf, older KDE is OK | May 21 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | but ATI FGLRX finally works on Fedora 12 | May 21 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 21 20:39 |
| cubezzz | I don't like the 4+ stuff | May 21 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | one of the Fedora guys told me the setup I was using on Fedora 12 shouldn't have even worked | May 21 20:40 |
| cubezzz | wow, I'm going to get a lot of hits on the pacman source code | May 21 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | I managed to install all the video drivers and Mesa out of Fedora 13's development branch | May 21 20:40 |
| cubezzz | just noticed that | May 21 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | I don't care what Phoronix says, those versions are a lot faster | May 21 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | and more features on my card are supported | May 21 20:41 |
| WireWulf | i like sabayon tho it has some bloat | May 21 20:41 |
| cubezzz | well I can compiled the ati radeon driver on Fedora 10 | May 21 20:41 |
| cubezzz | I'll probably stick with that | May 21 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | most of my testing suggests that Fedora 13's ati driver and mesa stack is about 1/3rd faster than Fedora 12's | May 21 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | it's one hell of an upgrade if you want open source ati support | May 21 20:42 |
| cubezzz | uh, I can compile yes? | May 21 20:42 |
| WireWulf | yeah i may ry fedora 13 on this lappy here soon | May 21 20:42 |
| cubezzz | thank you drive thru :) | May 21 20:42 |
| cubezzz | I'll try Fedora 13 later | May 21 20:44 |
| cubezzz | I wasn't too happy with 12 | May 21 20:44 |
| WireWulf | 12 sucked | May 21 20:46 |
| WireWulf | i like sabayon but it is bloaty unless you build from a core CD | May 21 20:46 |
| cubezzz | does anyone do a 2.4 distro? | May 21 20:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Pizza-O'Clock! | May 21 20:51 | |
| WireWulf | dont think so cubezzz | May 21 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | just lost the satellite | May 21 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 21 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | storm coming in | May 21 20:58 |
| schestowitz | http://www.asylum.co.uk/2010/05/18/six-feet-chunder-pizza-in-naples-cooked-with-wood-from-coffi/ | May 21 20:59 |
| Techrights | Title: Six feet chunder -- pizza in Naples 'cooked with wood from coffins' - Asylum.co.uk .::. Size~: 72.98 KB | May 21 20:59 |
| schestowitz | I think that Draw Muhammad Day has annoyed some people http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/10130195.stm | May 21 20:59 |
| Techrights | Title: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 90.76 KB | May 21 20:59 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I hope you no longer touch Bong [sic]. here's an option: http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-20005217-265.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20 | May 21 21:00 |
| Techrights | Title: Wolfram Alpha's niche continues to elude | Relevant Results - CNET News .::. Size~: 117.9 KB | May 21 21:00 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaTUKWQe7ug | May 21 21:01 |
| Techrights | Title: YouTube- YOUTUBE BANNED in Pakistan over Draw Muhammad Day .::. Size~: 96.58 KB | May 21 21:01 |
| schestowitz | yeah... | May 21 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I smoked it once or twice, but it was pretty bad sh*t | May 21 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | so I gave up :) | May 21 21:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bql0cpVHbA | May 21 21:01 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/21/arts/television/21lost.html?hp | May 21 21:03 |
| Techrights | Title: Television - As ‘Lost’ Ends on ABC, Mythology Trumps Mystery - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 53.25 KB | May 21 21:03 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: listen to the music before the end here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bql0cpVHbA | May 21 21:03 |
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| schestowitz | Do you recognise the tune? | May 21 21:03 |
| schestowitz | Murdoch the monster is attacking Wikipedia now. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/10104946.stm | May 21 21:05 |
| Techrights | Title: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 90.8 KB | May 21 21:05 |
| schestowitz | Ewww.. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/17/baha-mousa-death-general-horrified | May 21 21:08 |
| Techrights | Title: British general 'horrified' by Baha Mousa injuries | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 60.93 KB | May 21 21:08 |
| WireWulf | i hear wiki has child pornZ on it | May 21 21:09 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/18/malawi-gay-couple-jailed | May 21 21:11 |
| Techrights | Title: Human rights campaigners attack Malawi gay couple conviction | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 59.24 KB | May 21 21:11 |
| schestowitz | WireWulf: see what Fox did with it | May 21 21:11 |
| WireWulf | fox news has just said about them being in trobble over having nude pics on it or something | May 21 21:12 |
| schestowitz | So just quit instead! | May 21 21:13 |
| schestowitz | You know how to live without Facebook. You have done it already. | May 21 21:13 |
| schestowitz | QUOTE ^^^^ http://www.stallman.org/archives/2010-mar-jun.html#20%20May%202010%20(Urgent:%20Facebook%20Protest) | May 21 21:13 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/18/pakistani-students-terror-suspects-deportation | May 21 21:14 |
| Techrights | Title: Two Pakistani students pose 'serious threat' but can stay in UK | UK news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 68.47 KB | May 21 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | I've noticed that satellite goes out more than cable, but satellite only takes a few minutes to come back where the cable company may take hours | May 21 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 21 21:18 |
| WireWulf | cable company took days | May 21 21:19 |
| WireWulf | satellite company just hates me | May 21 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | heh, AT&T hooked up my new account before they realized I owed them money on an old account that they sold to a collection agency | May 21 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | so they missed their chance to charge me a security deposit :) | May 21 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | there's something to be said for incompetence afterall, huh? :) | May 21 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | "security deposit" like they're risking any kind of investment on you | May 21 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | you don't pay, they shut off your service | May 21 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | it's not even like I'm using their modem or anything | May 21 21:22 |
| schestowitz | Here's the one page that got FB blocked by an entire nation. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Everyone-Draw-Mohammed-day-May-20/112498195453416?ref=search&sid=803200402.285008076..1 | May 21 21:25 |
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| cubezzz | WireWulf, I've found the ultimate distro :) | May 21 21:26 |
| cubezzz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinfoil_Hat_Linux | May 21 21:26 |
| Techrights | Title: Tinfoil Hat Linux - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 38.8 KB | May 21 21:26 |
| schestowitz | 8 Sites to Find Stunning Wallpapers For Your Desktop http://maketecheasier.com/8-sites-to-find-stunning-wallpapers-for-your-desktop/2010/05/21 | May 21 21:34 |
| Techrights | Title: 8 Sites to Find Stunning Wallpapers For Your Desktop .::. Size~: 37.66 KB | May 21 21:34 |
| WireWulf | nice cubezzz | May 21 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | after decades of causing breast cancer and bone loss with estrogen replacement for older women, the pharma cartel wants to start testosterone replacement in men | May 21 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | nothing like going through puberty again at age 60 I guess :) | May 21 21:43 |
| WireWulf | puberty yuk | May 21 21:43 |
| *WireWulf is scared that humanity can make life now | May 21 21:44 | |
| DaemonFC | rage, oily skin, zits, foul odors, and hair growing out of weird places while your voice can't figure out if it wants to be 10 or 20 years old | May 21 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | and severe libido increase | May 21 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | it's probably the second worst phase of life | May 21 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | and the worst one I've been through so far :P | May 21 21:44 |
| schestowitz | [21:44] * WireWulf is scared that humanity can make life now | May 21 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Not quite | May 21 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Poor reporting in CNN | May 21 21:49 |
| schestowitz | It may take another 20 years, I recently learned | May 21 21:49 |
| WireWulf | wasnt CNN saying it | May 21 21:50 |
| WireWulf | discrovery channel | May 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | But one day we'll make babies outside the human babies | May 21 21:50 |
| WireWulf | eeew | May 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | Fertilisaton and growth in tubes and machines | May 21 21:50 |
| WireWulf | eeew | May 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | It's not creation, just reproduction, breeding cells | May 21 21:51 |
| WireWulf | very anime ish | May 21 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Then you can maybe bring back extinct animals if you have soft tissue | May 21 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Dodo :0) | May 21 21:51 |
| *WireWulf is abit hungry | May 21 21:52 | |
| schestowitz | Flash???? http://www.marcofolio.net/reviews/wordpress_and_flash_10x_book_review_and_giveaway.html | May 21 21:52 |
| schestowitz | WireWulf: we'll breed some meat for you | May 21 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Cow? | May 21 21:53 |
| WireWulf | um veggies | May 21 21:53 |
| WireWulf | :) | May 21 21:53 |
| schestowitz | It's like in Star Trek where the captain orders Early Grey | May 21 21:53 |
| schestowitz | *Earl | May 21 21:53 |
| schestowitz | WireWulf: monsanto bred? | May 21 21:54 |
| schestowitz | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/beverly-bell/haitian-farmers-commit-to_b_578807.html | May 21 21:54 |
| Techrights | Title: Beverly Bell: Haitian Farmers Commit to Burning Monsanto Hybrid Seeds .::. Size~: 258.73 KB | May 21 21:54 |
| WireWulf | no like home grown beans, peas, corn | May 21 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Home grown, eh? | May 21 21:57 |
| schestowitz | That's a dying breed | May 21 21:57 |
| schestowitz | People get their bread from GMO production lines | May 21 21:57 |
| schestowitz | And their vegetables too, increasingly | May 21 21:57 |
| schestowitz | The EU leaves those out a bit | May 21 21:57 |
| WireWulf | yeah but all that messing with DNA can end up making the plant deadly | May 21 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | I just asked my receiver to analyze the satellite reception | May 21 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | most values were in the 90s, the lowest was 84 | May 21 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | I guess I have a pretty good signal when there is not thunderstorm :P | May 21 22:03 |
| *WireWulf is now known as WireWulf-away | May 21 22:03 | |
| DaemonFC | *no | May 21 22:03 |
| schestowitz | http://www.thevarguy.com/2010/05/20/novell-more-takeover-bids-coming/ "NOVELL AND SUSE ARE OBSOLETE AGAINST UBUNTU. NO COMPANY WITHOUT MICROSOFT COUPONS WOULD WASTE TIME WITH NOVELL/SUSE IN THE UBUNTU ERA. EXCEPT, OF COURSE, MIGUEL DE ICAZA, THE GNOME/MICROSOFT WHORE WORKING FOR NOVELL." | May 21 22:06 |
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| schestowitz | "Both Mandriva and Novell seem to be in the same boat. Not enough income, connections, and innovation to keep them afloat amid the global economic crisis." | May 21 22:06 |
| schestowitz | hy does LXer promote WIndows stuff? http://linuxandall.wordpress.com/2010/05/20/how-to-watch-hulu-com-in-the-uk/ | May 21 22:07 |
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| schestowitz | *Why (maybe an error again) | May 21 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | meh | May 21 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | Hulu works on Linux | May 21 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | Netflix doesn't though | May 21 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | not even with Moonlight | May 21 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Netflix is changing from Silverlight though this year | May 21 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | they're going to be using HTML 5 with that webm format | May 21 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | although I don't know how that will work | May 21 22:11 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: it's proprietary | May 21 22:11 |
| schestowitz | And it's demoed on win32 | May 21 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | don't the people licensing that stuff make Netflix DRM it? | May 21 22:11 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Just watched "Avatar". Great movie, Love it. Rendered by a !gnu !linux supercomputer running !kde | May 21 22:11 | |
| schestowitz | netflix won't be html5 for sure | May 21 22:11 |
| schestowitz | techcrunch said they look at it | May 21 22:11 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst yes, kubuntu | May 21 22:12 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: What do you think about Microsoft saying VP8 will work in IE 9 if you have the codec? | May 21 22:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Just watched "Avatar". Great movie, Love it. Rendered by a #gnu #linux supercomputer running #kde | May 21 22:13 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.novell.com/prblogs/?p=2517 | May 21 22:17 |
| Techrights | Title: NOVELL: Novell News » Blog Archive » Wanted: testers for MonoDroid .::. Size~: 60.63 KB | May 21 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Those pests wanna ruin another phone set.... | May 21 22:17 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I wrote about that | May 21 22:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @ml2mst Just watched "Avatar". Great movie, Love it. Rendered by a #gnu #linux supercomputer running #kde | May 21 22:18 | |
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| cubezzz | new Microsoft Life 2011 edition :) | May 21 22:19 |
| cubezzz | now that would be scary indeed | May 21 22:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz: Kubuntu? Kool running it on my Laptop now ;-) Seriously, who seriously uses !linux for serious work LOL :-) | May 21 22:20 | |
| schestowitz | Novell co-founder became a massive man. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ytgHTpCkQE | May 21 22:27 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Just buried a rabbit that our black and white cat caught, and brought back so we'd have something to eat :( | May 21 22:45 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Kicking of a series of articles why I think Launchpad.net rocks - http://is.gd/cjzav #launchpad | May 21 22:49 | |
| DaemonFC | lmao | May 21 22:49 |
| Techrights | Title: Why Launchpad Rocks: Just Enough Goodness For My Project | jonobacon@home .::. Size~: 26.97 KB | May 21 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | "You said 'start by moving the ship forward' when you should have said 'start by activating the inertial dampeners'" | May 21 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | nice | May 21 22:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKncDLnqYh8 | May 21 22:54 |
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| schestowitz | Yesterday was Draw Mo' Day | May 21 22:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Rob McQueen provides another dose of why I think he is a total legend - this time on VP8, GStreamer and Telepathy - http://is.gd/cjzAo | May 21 22:55 | |
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| DaemonFC | I really screwed the pooch on my budgeting this month | May 21 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | I have $186 to last me 12 more days | May 21 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | it's been a really bad month | May 21 22:56 |
| tessier | Eating is overrated. | May 21 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | my thoughts exactly | May 21 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | the only good news is all my rent and most of my bills are paid | May 21 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | I have some provisions, including a bunch of disgusting TV dinners from when my mom tried to go on that nutrisystem diet and took advantage of the refund | May 21 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | they may be vile, but they will keep me going I guess | May 21 23:09 |
| oiaohm | I like that you see H264 people say hey this is too close. | May 21 23:09 |
| oiaohm | They don't get it. Normal process to going patent free is clone everything bar the patented parts then as patented expire implement them. | May 21 23:10 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] ♺ @Piratenpartij: RT @bitsoffreedom: Hackers Wanted: "The only freedom fighters in the future will be hackers": http://is.gd/cjwYE | May 21 23:13 | |
| Techrights | Title: Lost Hacking Documentary Surfaces on Pirate Bay | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 71.18 KB | May 21 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: Vorbis managed to avoid the patents entirely | May 21 23:13 |
| oiaohm | Not entirely. | May 21 23:14 |
| oiaohm | Few of the methods Vorbis encoder has implemented in recent years were patented. DaemonFC | May 21 23:14 |
| oiaohm | Note the key word were. Due to the patents they could not be done before. DaemonFC | May 21 23:14 |
| oiaohm | Open Source is a long term game. Something patent holders don't really like. | May 21 23:16 |
| cubezzz | for closed source to win they would have to stop making programmable hardware | May 21 23:21 |
| oiaohm | Or close the laws down everywhere so items like the Xbox's cannot be breached. | May 21 23:22 |
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| cubezzz | well go ahead and make xbox unbreachable :) | May 21 23:23 |
| cubezzz | that won't change anything | May 21 23:23 |
| cubezzz | I don't think that Microsoft can depose the open source genie back into the bottle | May 21 23:24 |
| cubezzz | the programmers will continue to write programs and the rest of the people will buy stupid things like ipad | May 21 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: There must have been a law change or something | May 21 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | beginning in August, my bank says that they will no longer let it be possible to overdraw your account with your debit card | May 21 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | if it's going to go over, they will decline the transaction | May 21 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | which is nice, cause I'd rather let an auto pay on something bounce back than the bank charging me overdrafts :P | May 21 23:33 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] I uploaded a YouTube video -- Mittens, the shoulder hugger http://youtu.be/QJUm3d-IlwA?a | May 21 23:38 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] I uploaded a YouTube video -- Alfred the headless bunny http://youtu.be/PaaC2qVp-zI?a | May 21 23:38 | |
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| cubezzz | compiling rtorrent for fc1 | May 21 23:43 |
| cubezzz | vuze let me down | May 21 23:45 |
| cubezzz | I try to deal with banks as little as possible | May 21 23:46 |
| oiaohm | Not law bank ratings if over draw is allowed without need bank rating after August will be lower. DaemonFC | May 21 23:46 |
| oiaohm | And rating is important to bank getting money. DaemonFC | May 21 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | can't do much without a bank account | May 21 23:47 |
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| schestowitz | This channel is hilarious: http://www.youtube.com/user/NonStampCollector#p/u/17/IVbnciQYMiM | May 21 23:49 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I just delinked my accounts so that when that goes into effect, there's no way I can be overdrawn or charged extra fees :P | May 21 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | it looks like the feds did do something good for once | May 21 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | no more "We'll just keep letting your account be overdrawn more and more while the banks charge you arbitrary fees" | May 21 23:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Once again, CPedia trounces all comers http://is.gd/cjCVY Of course, then there's this, of which I want one http://is.gd/cjD0u | May 21 23:52 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you'll need a bank account | May 21 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | Well, banks allowing and profiting from overdrafts is abusive | May 21 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | and it's good that this is ending | May 21 23:53 |
| schestowitz | Cash will vanish in about a decade and credit system replaced | May 21 23:53 |
| cubezzz | cash will vanish? | May 21 23:53 |
| schestowitz | Tomorrow is another dunny boiling day here... | May 21 23:53 |
| schestowitz | Urgh... | May 21 23:53 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: yes, makes sense | May 21 23:53 |
| schestowitz | They say people will use gadgets for transactions | May 21 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: like the mark of the beast | May 21 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 21 23:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] RT @ml2mst Just watched "Avatar". Great movie, Love it. Rendered by a #gnu #linux supercomputer running #kde | May 21 23:55 | |
| DaemonFC | I'll pay you with 666 and you can give me my change back with your 333 | May 21 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | or perhaps a 999 | May 21 23:55 |
| cubezzz | is Stallman accurate on this point: no non-proprietary OS in 1983? | May 21 23:58 |
| cubezzz | wasn't there something about BSD even in 1983? | May 21 23:59 |
| schestowitz | Maybe figure of speech, so to say | May 21 23:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] So what did they knock down around #London to make room for useless Olympic stadia? Nothing anybody wanted? OK then. #uk #olympics | May 21 23:59 | |
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