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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz although with the discourtesy and rudeness that an alleged adult has just shown me, I think it speaks for itself. | May 23 00:00 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz and this "lefty" wants people to invite him to speak at their events? As usual Openbytes will shortly be asking the question. | May 23 00:00 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz and by the way Roy (and for everyone reading) whilst I do not agree with everything you say, I know you are a man of decency | May 23 00:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz and honesty. We can debate our differences, but your character is not in question. | May 23 00:01 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Actually helpful article found on cpedia! http://www.cpedia.com/wiki?q=weeaboo | May 23 00:12 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenSUSE Needs an Independent Equivalent (Like PCLinuxOS for Mandriva) to Ensure Takeover of #Novell Leaves it Safe http://ur1.ca/02s93 | May 23 00:13 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell FOX News: Newt Gingrich's Obama/Nazi comparison goes too far, even for your network! http://bit.ly/b5ygv5 | May 23 00:36 | |
| Techrights | Title: Too extreme even for FOX. .::. Size~: 15.29 KB | May 23 00:36 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @arkadyrose Freda sleeping in her own bed, with her new Peppa Pig bed linen. :-) http://twitpic.com/1q5q2m | May 23 00:43 | |
| Techrights | Title: Freda sleeping in her own bed, with her new Peppa Pig bed lin... on Twitpic .::. Size~: 7.72 KB | May 23 00:43 |
| sebsebseb | hi _goblin | May 23 00:49 |
| _goblin | hi! | May 23 00:57 |
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| yuhong | http://blogs.msdn.com/philipsu/archive/2006/06/14/631438.aspx | May 23 01:14 |
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| yuhong | Just dug that out of a MS blog. | May 23 01:14 |
| yuhong | About Vista. | May 23 01:14 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Lets rejoice...Mono is coming to Android? ;) Great stuff. Theres another platform it can merely sit on....Mono dep Killer app anywhere? | May 23 01:47 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Sorry, I take that back. Gbrainy. The Mono dependent killer app the advocates must mean.....how silly of me. | May 23 01:49 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] In all seriousness though Gbrainy could be 100% asm and I'd still think it hopeless -the biggest brain teaser is how did it get into Ubuntu? | May 23 01:50 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] But of course, now Im airing an opinion on my Twitter....I must be a troll. And if I dare write about it on my blog.......cast me down! | May 23 01:51 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Give your opinion and a person likes it, you'll be praised like a God. Give your opinion and someone doesn't - your a troll. | May 23 01:53 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @sunil_abraham: #Tajikistan - President moves to ban cell-phones | #mobile » Oh noes - they had 3G before India did! http://viigo.im/3BKd | May 23 04:40 | |
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| yuhong | http://blogs.msdn.com/philipsu/archive/2006/06/14/631438.aspx | May 23 06:37 |
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| yuhong | Related: | May 23 06:38 |
| yuhong | http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/c4doz/hr_needs_to_get_in_the_habit_of_directly/ | May 23 06:38 |
| Techrights | Title: HR needs to get in the habit of directly responding to postings employees make in public (including but not just those about their job) instead of firing (whether positive or negative) : reddit.com .::. Size~: 35.47 KB | May 23 06:38 |
| schestowitz | About fake attribution: "eh people can do that anyway, watch: "i love donkeys! A LOT" - roy schestowitz of techrights.org (sorry, just an example)" | May 23 06:39 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/33077473#notice-33228521 | May 23 06:39 |
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| yuhong | I know. | May 23 06:39 |
| schestowitz | Ouch. http://twitter.com/BlackOtaku/statuses/14513820985 "Ever think that C# is a good language? Java makes me rage quit everything. I'm glad Android's lookin 2 embrace other languages." | May 23 06:40 |
| Techrights | Title: Twitter / Avichi Suite: @schestowitz Ever think th ... .::. Size~: 10.89 KB | May 23 06:40 |
| schestowitz | But Android is not embracing it | May 23 06:40 |
| schestowitz | Novell shoves it in | May 23 06:40 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/BlackOtaku/statuses/14513844777 | May 23 06:40 |
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| yuhong | You should consider using OpenID. I use it. | May 23 06:41 |
| yuhong | schestowitz: You should consider using something like OpenID. I use it when I comment on blogs. | May 23 06:42 |
| yuhong | I also have Google, Facebook, Twitter accounts too that I use whatever possible when I comment too. | May 23 06:42 |
| schestowitz | Naaa.. | May 23 06:42 |
| yuhong | I comment on a lot of sites. | May 23 06:43 |
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| yuhong | And blogs. | May 23 06:43 |
| yuhong | And a Slashdot and Reddit account too. | May 23 06:44 |
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| yuhong | On the matter of Reddit, I had to post this: | May 23 06:48 |
| yuhong | http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/bjr9j/so_whats_the_verdict_on_boycott_novell_im_getting/c0q1vqb?context=3 | May 23 06:48 |
| Techrights | Title: yuhong comments on So what's the verdict on Boycott Novell? I'm getting lots of trackbacks from them and wondering if they're hurting my rep or not... .::. Size~: 42.68 KB | May 23 06:48 |
| yuhong | And on the matter of that topic: | May 23 06:49 |
| yuhong | http://venturebeat.com/2010/05/20/vic-gundotra-google/ | May 23 06:49 |
| Techrights | Title: Google evangelist Vic Gundotra is the companys new star | VentureBeat .::. Size~: 46.46 KB | May 23 06:49 |
| yuhong | I am on Stack Overflow and Super User too. | May 23 06:50 |
| yuhong | Using my OpenID> | May 23 06:50 |
| yuhong | I would recommend famous people like CEOs use their accounts too, and consider PGP-signing their emails. | May 23 06:52 |
| yuhong | And newsgroup postings. | May 23 06:52 |
| yuhong | I would recommend famous people like CEOs use their accounts too, like I do. | May 23 06:52 |
| yuhong | How many CEOs have an OpenID account? | May 23 06:53 |
| yuhong | That they use? | May 23 06:53 |
| yuhong | I wonder. | May 23 06:53 |
| yuhong | It would help a lot with this issue. | May 23 06:54 |
| yuhong | On the matter of CEO emails, hopefully you have seen this when I first mentioned it: | May 23 06:55 |
| yuhong | http://gawker.com/5539717/steve-jobs-offers-world-freedom-from-porn | May 23 06:55 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell is still disabling users with so-called ‘clouds’ rather than enabling them with software freedom http://ur1.ca/02tjr | May 23 07:01 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #YouTube is Embracing VP8/WebM, But Software Patent Trolls and #DRM Stand in the Way http://ur1.ca/02tuj #swpats | May 23 08:09 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Bullies With Software Patents, #Monsanto Uses Earthquakes to Spread Patent Liabilities http://ur1.ca/02u1p #swpats #gmo | May 23 09:00 | |
| Techrights | Title: Patents Roundup: Patent Bully Erich Spangenberg Finally Loses, Europe Still Troubled, Microsoft Bullies With Software Patents, Monsanto Uses Earthquakes to Spread Patent Liabilities | Techrights .::. Size~: 108.73 KB | May 23 09:00 |
| schestowitz | "Yep. Freedom from programs that steal your private data. Freedom from programs that trash your battery. Freedom from porn. Yep, freedom. The times they are a changin', and some traditional PC folks feel like their world is slipping away. It is." -Jobs | May 23 09:08 |
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| schestowitz | What a donkey | May 23 09:09 |
| schestowitz | And Groklaw defends Jobs on this.. http://gawker.com/5539717/ | May 23 09:10 |
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| Diablo-D3 | lol valleywag | May 23 09:12 |
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| schestowitz | "Historically, copyright has been protected for the benefit of the public. Currently the predominant view in the courts places the author or rights holders' interests above society's interests. The issue is whether this view violates the historical policy behind the Copyright Act." | May 23 09:19 |
| schestowitz | http://web.wmitchell.edu/cybaris/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/06.Kjos_.05-12-10-vFINAL.pdf | May 23 09:19 |
| Techrights | Title: Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type .::. Size~: 0 KB | May 23 09:19 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: it's a tabloid, AFIK | May 23 09:19 |
| schestowitz | *Afaik | May 23 09:19 |
| schestowitz | They intrude love affairs of famous people in IT... | May 23 09:20 |
| schestowitz | Occasionally they fish useless news | May 23 09:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | dude | May 23 09:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | its valleywag | May 23 09:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | its 100% bullshit | May 23 09:24 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1418307320100514 | May 23 09:25 |
| Techrights | Title: Ex-Sun CEO takes high road after Ellison attack| Reuters .::. Size~: 44.43 KB | May 23 09:25 |
| schestowitz | "Blocked by Google, OpenOffice.org arranges its own "Summer of Code". - Simon Phipps, Twitter" | May 23 09:25 |
| schestowitz | Bad Google | May 23 09:25 |
| schestowitz | Selling their proprietary stuff for Docs | May 23 09:25 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @webmink: Blocked by Google, OpenOffice.org arranges its own "Summer of Code" >> Google promotes proprietary office suite software | May 23 09:28 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Flatfish is a judge in Walawi? http://is.gd/clxXr | May 23 09:29 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.smartplanet.com/technology/blog/rethinking-healthcare/no-consensus-on-study-into-cancer-risks-from-cell-phones/1197/ http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Institute-Health-Environment-University-Albany-Rensselaer-New-York-Ten-Year-INTERPHONE-1261091.htm | May 23 09:39 |
| schestowitz | Aha | May 23 09:39 |
| Techrights | Title: No consensus on study into cancer risks from cell phones - SmartPlanet .::. Size~: 55.76 KB | May 23 09:39 |
| Techrights | Title: Institute for Health and the Environment, University at Albany, Rensselaer, New York: Ten-Year INTERPHONE Cell Phone Study Reports Increased Risk for Brain Cancer .::. Size~: 14.45 KB | May 23 09:39 |
| schestowitz | Here they are again | May 23 09:39 |
| schestowitz | Cell phone companies denying cancer like global warming is denied by Big Oil | May 23 09:39 |
| schestowitz | But studies shows cell phones cause cancer | May 23 09:39 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Latest study which shows cellphones cause cancer: http://ur1.ca/02u6k http://ur1.ca/02u6l | May 23 09:41 | |
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| schestowitz | http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/05/19/george-rekers-rentboy-and-the-law/ | May 23 09:47 |
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| schestowitz | "It's picking the Sun technologies that are commercializable and focusing on those, and ignoring those that are not. They are just science projects" -- Ellison. | May 23 09:52 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "It's picking the Sun technologies [...] ignoring those that are not. They are just science projects" --Larry Ellison http://ur1.ca/00q37 | May 23 10:04 | |
| Techrights | Title: Special Report: Can that guy in Ironman 2 whip IBM in real life?| Reuters .::. Size~: 64.39 KB | May 23 10:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Collecting figs from one our fig trees. :-) | May 23 10:29 | |
| schestowitz | http://topnews.us/content/220091-heart-risk-raised-consumption-processed-meat | May 23 10:51 |
| Techrights | Title: Heart Risk Raised with Consumption of Processed Meat | TopNews United States .::. Size~: 65.74 KB | May 23 10:51 |
| schestowitz | Was this not obvious? | May 23 10:51 |
| schestowitz | " don't thinks so.. after Larry started charging for the OOo plugin there is fud. I wouldnt fund a proj which future is unknown" http://twitter.com/kmf/status/14545832738 | May 23 11:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Well, @pranesh_prakash say this to Phipps. And BTW, Go-OO is a Novell fork | May 23 11:02 | |
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| schestowitz | OOo FUD | May 23 11:02 |
| schestowitz | "Rubbish. GSOC 2010 is sponsoring Go-OO development. Check facts first. ♺ @schestowitz: Google promotes proprietary office suite software" | May 23 11:03 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@omar_s_hafez Check the dictionary definition: Bill Gates is a textbook sociopath with no shadow of doubt. And worse, in fact. #microsoft | May 23 11:20 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Copernicus re-buried as a hero. Shove that where the sun don't shine, fundies! http://bit.ly/cyJqnX #cosmology #science #progress | May 23 11:23 | |
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| schestowitz | http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/206530.asp | May 23 11:40 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@glynmoody DMiliband: 'Time to move on' from #Iraq http://bit.ly/9s1g6c #Blair's fave phrase 4avoiding /why move on? Nothing was dealt with | May 23 11:41 | |
| Techrights | Title: David Miliband: Time to move on from Iraq | Politics | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 210.54 KB | May 23 11:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @qu1j0t3] @glynmoody DMiliband: 'Time to move on' from #Iraq http://bit.ly/9s1g6c #Blair's fave phrase 4avoiding /why move on? | May 23 11:49 | |
| Techrights | Title: David Miliband: Time to move on from Iraq | Politics | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 210.34 KB | May 23 11:49 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] '#Australia is a bit of a political wasteland...a suburb of a country called Anglo-Saxon' @wikileaks' #Assange http://bit.ly/cKs7Bg | May 23 12:00 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] (the article on Assange is rather silly. http://bit.ly/cKs7Bg ) #wikileaks | May 23 12:00 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #iTunes shuffles to Joni Mitchell 'Parking Lot' ... after a month where humankind accelerates its ecological doom at unprecedented scale | May 23 12:03 | |
| schestowitz | http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid14_gci1512949,00.html "Oracle has agreed to buy database firewall vendor Secerno. " | May 23 12:06 |
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| oiaohm | That is a keep up aquirement schestowitz | May 23 12:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #fdw1um http://smh.com.au/technology/technology-news-w1um.html -- Has Assange met Murdoch? Silly question. We have ALL met #Murdoch. | May 23 12:08 | |
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| oiaohm | Ie secerno aquirement is to keep up with selinux intergration into selinux. | May 23 12:09 |
| oiaohm | But it will really leave MS in the cold. schestowitz | May 23 12:10 |
| oiaohm | Ops selinux intergration into postgresql | May 23 12:10 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Putting life into giggle calendar for @arkadyrose's convenience. this thing'd be SO cool if I had found any calendar ever I wanted to use. | May 23 12:19 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] HuffPost headline trialling 'conservative' as euphemism 4 'false'? u decide: "#Texas Board Of Education Adopts More Conservative Curriculum" | May 23 12:24 | |
| schestowitz | "I guess that is true if you look at Google Docs as proprietary. But OpenOffice development isn't a great model for open either" | May 23 12:29 |
| schestowitz | Hmm.... how so, I wonder... | May 23 12:29 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Going out for a ride with folks to beach. Back to home :-) I am loving the Weather here. | May 23 12:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] .@purpleaubergine i signed, but i'd feel more confident in it if they could spell "lesbian". http://petol.org/kianaf | May 23 12:31 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Foursquare users! Try (a) delinking your 4sq and Twitter (b) asking your friends if you should relink them. Bet you get a resounding HELL NO | May 23 12:32 | |
| schestowitz | http://inhabitat.com/2010/05/20/google-hp-and-microsoft-consider-poo-to-power-data-centers/ | May 23 12:34 |
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| schestowitz | What a crap idea | May 23 12:34 |
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| schestowitz | Google faces criminal probe in Germany - Alameda Times-Star | May 23 12:41 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] is now at Sitaram hospital. I have a leg operation tomorrow. #enjoying TV now. #nsisodiya | May 23 13:01 | |
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| schestowitz | Is this magazine associated with Microsoft? http://www.rdmag.com/about-us/ | May 23 13:12 |
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| schestowitz | Other than ad money? | May 23 13:12 |
| schestowitz | amarsh04: http://www.zdnet.com.au/microsoft-costs-cut-csiro-it-jobs-339303337.htm | May 23 13:15 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: check it out | May 23 13:16 |
| schestowitz | Example of Microsoft destroying jobs, contrary to the PR claiming that Microsoft is helping the economy by creating jobs and improving research (in this case actually harming it) | May 23 13:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Judicious powertop tweaking gets mini 9 to 2.5-3 hrs! Power adapters arrived too. And ORG sticker. I lurrrve my netbook <3 <3 <3 | May 23 13:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] haven't had a working phone for a week, btw. anyone called? please email. | May 23 13:18 | |
| schestowitz | Omar87: | May 23 13:37 |
| schestowitz | http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/microsoftpri0/2011905659_queenofjordanreceiveshumanitarianawardatmicrosoft.html | May 23 13:37 |
| Techrights | Title: Microsoft Pri0 | Queen of Jordan receives humanitarian award at Microsoft | Seattle Times Newspaper .::. Size~: 52.71 KB | May 23 13:37 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, yeah. What can I say about it.. ? :) | May 23 13:39 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/206330.asp | May 23 13:39 |
| Techrights | Title: Queen of Jordan visits Microsoft's Redmond campus today .::. Size~: 69.02 KB | May 23 13:39 |
| schestowitz | They give awards | May 23 13:39 |
| schestowitz | To wrap up Jordan's authorities. | May 23 13:40 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, Exactly. | May 23 13:40 |
| schestowitz | She should not to accept such prizes from a criminal corporation from another country | May 23 13:40 |
| schestowitz | Shameful, IHMO | May 23 13:40 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, I agree. | May 23 13:40 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zawya.com/mobile/default.cfm/sidZAWYA20100517080909/MS%20Retail%20Selects%20Microsoft%20Dynamics%20to%20Enhance%20Operational%20Efficiencies/actstory | May 23 13:41 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz, to be honest, here's a piece of information for you. I'm not sure it's safe to say here, though: "I do not trust the | | May 23 13:41 |
| Omar87 | J | May 23 13:41 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, to be honest, here's a piece of information for you. I'm not sure it's safe to say here, though: "I do not trust the Jordanian government" | May 23 13:42 |
| Omar87 | Sorry for the stupid error. | May 23 13:42 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.pnwlocalnews.com/focusnorthwest/queen-rania-al-abdullah-receives-award-microsoft-redmond/735/ | May 23 13:42 |
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| schestowitz | "OMG! I'm like with ballmer *lol*" | May 23 13:42 |
| schestowitz | Just kidding. You hopefully don't take offence | May 23 13:42 |
| schestowitz | This is just the typical marriage between governments and criminals with money | May 23 13:42 |
| schestowitz | It should be rejected by citizens | May 23 13:42 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, I didn't get it. :) | May 23 13:42 |
| schestowitz | It's a lobbying event | May 23 13:43 |
| schestowitz | I'll write about it tomorrow | May 23 13:43 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, I don't think the picture is even as simple as you put, Dr. Roy. | May 23 13:43 |
| schestowitz | I was joking | May 23 13:43 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, I know. I meant the typical marriage thing. | May 23 13:43 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: http://www.crn.in/Storage-017May010-Sybase-Acquisition-Strengthens-SAP-Hand-Against-Oracle-Microsoft.aspx | May 23 13:45 |
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| schestowitz | Omar87: what marriage? | May 23 13:45 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, [<schestowitz> This is just the typical marriage between governments and criminals with money] | May 23 13:46 |
| schestowitz | Oh, that (metaphor) | May 23 13:46 |
| Omar87 | I personally don't think it's just that simple. | May 23 13:46 |
| schestowitz | "Windows Vista (windowsvista) is now listening to your notices on Identi.ca." | May 23 13:51 |
| schestowitz | What is "windowsvista" doing in a FOSS site? | May 23 13:52 |
| schestowitz | Probably some marketing puppets Microsoft hires from the outsie | May 23 13:52 |
| schestowitz | *outside | May 23 13:52 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] pouring sweat after putting out washing wearing 0 but silk boxers. jeezus. 24C, 43% rel hum. wtf. | May 23 13:53 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.allfacebook.com/2010/05/how-microsoft-failed-to-acquire-facebook-for-over-15-billion/ | May 23 13:53 |
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| schestowitz | "Microsoft’s investment in Facebook at a $15 billion valuation was one of the most buzzed about internet business deals in years given the unprecedented valuation assigned to Facebook shares. However most people are unaware that the deal took place after Mark Zuckerberg turned down an acquisition offer by Microsoft for more than the $15 billion valuation it invested at." | May 23 13:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Amazing Cassini pics of Saturn's moons http://bit.ly/9QUdIT HT @glynmoody | May 23 14:01 | |
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| schestowitz | Ewww... http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/05/17/businessinsider-facebook-privacy-innovation-2010-5.DTL | May 23 14:03 |
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| *schestowitz going out to the sun | May 23 14:21 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Homofobe Moslimma op "dag tegen intolerantie". http://tinyurl.com/349j2s7 simpelweg gestoord! | May 23 14:49 | |
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| amarsh04 | thanks for the link schestowitz... was busy seeing too many win-xp logos on pc's on the iss | May 23 14:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] lol RT: @climagic: sudo shutdown -h 60 & mplayer sleepingmp3s/*.mp3 # PLay music for 60 minutes and then shutdown. Like sleep on alarm clock | May 23 15:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Question - "After upload of Microsoft Office doc on Google doc, There is no animation" Answer - read this post http://post.ly/h5Wh | May 23 17:23 | |
| Techrights | Title: Question - "After upload of Microsoft Office doc on Google doc, There is no animation" Answer - read this post - LUG@IITD Community Blog .::. Size~: 27.59 KB | May 23 17:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Opps, there is a typo,spell mistake in my last post - read "Un-install Microsoft Office" instead of "Install Microsoft Office" now corrected | May 23 17:41 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Listening to S03E08 of @UUPC before we release on Wednesday. | May 23 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | It's so hot here (global vvvvvvarming..). Been out running for 1.5 (Canary Wharf) | May 23 18:01 |
| schestowitz | SFLC did a good episode on Oracle antitrust | May 23 18:12 |
| schestowitz | They were right on many things in last year's predictions | May 23 18:12 |
| schestowitz | re Ellison. "he's obviously familiar with running businesses, but he seems more in love with "package deals" than microsoft (perhaps he's wise enough to avoid antitrust) and as much as apple (ipod is a suite- not a media player) i'd love to see a graph of orcl stock from 2000-now" | May 23 18:12 |
| schestowitz | http://280.status.net/notice/103510 | May 23 18:12 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] palhacada! ♺ @mind_booster: "Papéis dos submarinos desapareceram para omitir alteração de última hora" http://ff.im/kMzMa | May 23 18:13 | |
| Techrights | Title: Papéis dos submarinos desapareceram para omitir... - Jornal Público - FriendFeed .::. Size~: 7.15 KB | May 23 18:13 |
| schestowitz | http://asay.blogspot.com/2010/05/who-knew-religion-could-divide.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Acos+%28AC%2FOS%29 "I spent those years in Virginia and Wyoming, and didn't think of myself as "Mormon," though I attended an LDS ("Mormon") church every week." | May 23 18:14 |
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| schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8686417.stm "Thousands of people have paid tribute on Facebook to an Australian teenager allegedly lured to her death by a man she met on the social networking site." | May 23 18:15 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] we now have 1000 members on LUG@IITD Community mailing list http://post.ly/h5mr | May 23 18:15 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Maybe you should see the latest Click, since you are a blogger | May 23 18:16 |
| Omar87 | Guys do you think MS would ever buy FB? | May 23 18:20 |
| schestowitz | http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0522/30000-protest-budget-cuts-jersey/ | May 23 18:22 |
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| schestowitz | Omar87: no | May 23 18:22 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: I don't like that show | May 23 18:22 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I know | May 23 18:22 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: however you told me you watch it anyway or well you do sometimes | May 23 18:23 |
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| schestowitz | http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0520/coast-guard-burn-damaged-wetlands-clean-spilled-oil/ | May 23 18:29 |
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| schestowitz | http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0520/ratigan-beck-goldline-snake-oil-salesmen-scumbags/ | May 23 18:29 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/011190.html | May 23 18:48 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Dear brothers and sisters, I invite you all to check out Al-Jazeera Live (Mubasher) right now. It's covering an amazing event in Turkey. | May 23 19:06 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] PiratePartyUK: German software patents are a sad day for software http://ur1.ca/02wb6 | May 23 19:10 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/19/google_streetview_europe_row/ | May 23 19:16 |
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| schestowitz | Google can get sued | May 23 19:16 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/196765/germany_launches_criminal_investigation_of_google.html?tk=rss_news | May 23 19:17 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/196911/5_ways_the_plug_could_get_pulled_on_google_tv.html?tk=rss_news | May 23 19:20 |
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| schestowitz | |"Already Comcast has put new download caps on user systems where I live. I wonder if the cap will include NBC and Comcast's demand services. Microsoft has failed in a TV connection. Set top box makers are also unhappy. You can add to the list consumers with already sagging broadband lines. Imagine three teenagers trying to do Google TV while they do homework. Or the sag in the already stanched bandwidth at airport WiFi access | May 23 19:20 |
| schestowitz | points. Would you sit through commercials-- and video buffering episodes?" | May 23 19:20 |
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| DaemonFC | I can't believe I'm so bored that I'm watching Battlefield Earth | May 23 19:26 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/011190.html | May 23 19:26 |
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| schestowitz | Have a read | May 23 19:26 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Just got back in sybase getting SAP is really setting up for a battle with orcale Question is does Orcale have the money to buy the new combind item. | May 23 19:27 |
| schestowitz | SAP is close to Microsoft, but I read about them competing in a new area, maybe CRM? | May 23 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | Detroit is dead | May 23 19:29 |
| cubezzz | hmm? | May 23 19:30 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: was it alive? | May 23 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | years ago | May 23 19:34 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://www.boingboing.net/2010/05/19/biebians-lesbians-wh.html wth? | May 23 19:35 |
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| DaemonFC | hahaha | May 23 19:35 |
| schestowitz | I heard Bill o'Reilly made some remarks too | May 23 19:35 |
| schestowitz | Your country is nuts :-| | May 23 19:36 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/05/19/george-rekers-rentboy-and-the-law/ | May 23 19:36 |
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| schestowitz | He must have lobbied to show his straighthood and make some $$$ | May 23 19:36 |
| schestowitz | Fear mongering, Beck style | May 23 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Nice logo: http://www.boingboing.net/2010/05/18/bp-claims-tube-captu.html | May 23 19:37 |
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| schestowitz | The Brits left a nice hole for you to drink fuel in the aast coast... FREE oil | May 23 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: You know why O'Reilly and Limbaugh are on at 5 PM right? | May 23 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | their target audience goes to bed at 6 | May 23 19:39 |
| schestowitz | http://www.boingboing.net/2010/05/20/bp-disaster-oil-reac.html | May 23 19:39 |
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| schestowitz | Yummy! | May 23 19:39 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: night shifters, eh? | May 23 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, a British company operating in the United States, flagged as a Swiss drilling platform | May 23 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | sufficient bribes can get you anything | May 23 19:40 |
| oiaohm | http://www.sybase.com/linux sybase is a Linux supporting company. schestowitz | May 23 19:40 |
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| oiaohm | Sap was a more MS supporting one. schestowitz | May 23 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Lynching should be an option here | May 23 19:40 |
| oiaohm | Linux supporting companies do fight with each other. | May 23 19:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right, hopefully thats seen the end of pointless arguments about..nothing coming onto my Twitter.....just to clear up matters..... | May 23 19:40 | |
| DaemonFC | not just for the BP executives | May 23 19:40 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: and SUSE | May 23 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | but also the politicians they bribed | May 23 19:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] I have attended 0 conferences, I have done 0 talks, I write for Openbytes and my job is far removed from IT....Any other questions? | May 23 19:41 | |
| schestowitz | The biggest lobbyists in ITare Comcasta and AT&T... by FAR | May 23 19:41 |
| oiaohm | Really sybase is one of the Linux supporting compansi that might have a reason to buy Novell. | May 23 19:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Oh, I have a wife, kids and my life doesn't revolve around IT. Thats why I think my opinion has far more in common with the "common man" | May 23 19:42 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/196437/ca_changes_name_again.html?tk=rss_news | May 23 19:42 |
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| oiaohm | Ie they currently don't have a distrobution or a OS to call there own. Everyone they are competing against does. | May 23 19:43 |
| schestowitz | What about Unbreakable. Or are you talking about SAP? They may bid for Novell | May 23 19:43 |
| oiaohm | Unbreakable is Orcale | May 23 19:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Of course all of this has already been said at: http://openbytes.wordpress.com/about-goblin/ - strike me down for being ordinary. | May 23 19:43 | |
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| oiaohm | sybase has no distrobution or os of own. Companies they compete against are IBM Orcale and Microsoft | May 23 19:44 |
| oiaohm | Who all do have OS's of there own. | May 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/18/chelsea_manu_phone_hack/ | May 23 19:44 |
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| schestowitz | :-) | May 23 19:44 |
| oiaohm | Basically sybase buying Novell would make sence. | May 23 19:45 |
| oiaohm | And its one of the few possiable companies that it would make sence. | May 23 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CZt_XyE3tg | May 23 19:46 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Techdirt: German Court Effectively Opens The Floodgates By Saying Software Patents Are Legal http://ur1.ca/02iat | May 23 19:48 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/196867/dell_were_selling_the_appropriate_number_of_netbooks.html?tk=rss_news | May 23 19:50 |
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| schestowitz | Hey, goblin | May 23 19:51 |
| _goblin | Hi! | May 23 19:51 |
| schestowitz | why the disclosures? | May 23 19:51 |
| _goblin | lefty | May 23 19:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right....what to do tonight? mmmm. I know, first stop IRC. | May 23 19:51 | |
| _goblin | Quote "How many conferences have _you_ presented at? We know @schestowitz is afraid to attend any, even if his way is paid. #boycottboy" | May 23 19:51 |
| _goblin | He's decided to play Lonely old man on my twitter.....Im not happy. | May 23 19:52 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/18/wild_fox_adds_h_dot_264_to_firefox/ | May 23 19:52 |
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| schestowitz | who is behind this fork? | May 23 19:53 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: ignore that megalomaniac | May 23 19:53 |
| schestowitz | I told you | May 23 19:53 |
| schestowitz | But you feed the trolls | May 23 19:53 |
| schestowitz | [19:52] <_goblin> He's decided to play Lonely old man on my twitter.....Im not happy. | May 23 19:53 |
| schestowitz | Just "play"? | May 23 19:53 |
| schestowitz | Don't feed those trolls, they are the ones provoking us usually, unless some other troll does something. I get trolling tweet directed at me every day from someone, I ignore them | May 23 19:55 |
| _goblin | "But you feed the trolls" - Thats where me and you differ. Ive made a career out of challenging behaviour which is discriminatory or unfair.......lefty needs (like all the others) to be challenged. | May 23 19:55 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: same in USENET. You give legitimacy to the nastiest most libellous little thugs by conversing with the | May 23 19:55 |
| schestowitz | If they are not adult, don't treat them like that. They lost the right to conversation, they have their free speech to yell at the wall | May 23 19:56 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: it's not challenge, it's fed | May 23 19:56 |
| schestowitz | You bring the psychopaths over | May 23 19:56 |
| oiaohm | A coding newbie with Wild. schestowitz | May 23 19:56 |
| schestowitz | I don't want them around | May 23 19:56 |
| _goblin | but ignoriing them does nothing either. | May 23 19:57 |
| oiaohm | Chance of progress slim to none. schestowitz | May 23 19:57 |
| oiaohm | Yes spoken to the person was interested to find out more. | May 23 19:57 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: don't engage with them | May 23 19:57 |
| _goblin | they return. At least when you respond, your response is logged so that new or casual users can see it. If the troll goes unchallenged theres more chance that someone will believe what they say. | May 23 19:57 |
| schestowitz | I get the blowback when people do that | May 23 19:57 |
| schestowitz | They try to get me involved. It's abusive and distracting | May 23 19:58 |
| schestowitz | I want to do proper work | May 23 19:58 |
| oiaohm | To be correct not exactly a coding nebwie in the full sence of word. | May 23 19:58 |
| _goblin | Roy, before I knew you, I was believing the stuff that was written, mainly because as I saw it you never responded. | May 23 19:58 |
| oiaohm | Person has a track record as a web developer. | May 23 19:58 |
| oiaohm | Common standards to them makes sence. | May 23 19:58 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: I don't comment in blogs because of forgeries | May 23 19:59 |
| schestowitz | ANd I have better things to do | May 23 19:59 |
| schestowitz | I hadn't seen it until you brought it up | May 23 19:59 |
| schestowitz | Let's keep on topic | May 23 19:59 |
| schestowitz | If you choose to speak to them, pls keep me out of it | May 23 19:59 |
| _goblin | I do. | May 23 20:00 |
| oiaohm | Note person behind Wild fox is not exactly a bad person. Just had not though threw all the legal sides. | May 23 20:00 |
| schestowitz | I had enough trouble in the past when some assholes were provoking people claiming to do it on my behalf (which they lied about) | May 23 20:00 |
| _goblin | The only time I say your name is when they try to group me with you. Check my twitter. | May 23 20:00 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: who's he? | May 23 20:00 |
| oiaohm | Her schestowitz | May 23 20:00 |
| schestowitz | Oops | May 23 20:01 |
| schestowitz | What's the motive? | May 23 20:01 |
| schestowitz | Just market share? | May 23 20:01 |
| _goblin | eg..... | May 23 20:01 |
| _goblin | fty, as I said stop making implications. I do not know or care how many talks Roy has done. Ask him." | May 23 20:01 |
| schestowitz | If people want h.256, then they use a media player with the browser... | May 23 20:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Hurrah! Come Dine With Me! That's Sunday evening sorted then :) | May 23 20:02 | |
| schestowitz | h.264 | May 23 20:03 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: fty :-) | May 23 20:03 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: these are serial flamers | May 23 20:03 |
| schestowitz | Like Gaty Stewart | May 23 20:03 |
| schestowitz | Stay away from psychopaths. They crave the attention | May 23 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/21/european_commission_digital_agenda/ | May 23 20:04 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] To all my dear, dear "friends" who don't follow me on Twitter.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQi9O4wQMIU ..bless you all. | May 23 20:05 | |
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| schestowitz | _goblin: how's the weather down there? | May 23 20:09 |
| _goblin | hot | May 23 20:09 |
| _goblin | very hot | May 23 20:09 |
| _goblin | been to Harpenden Carnival today | May 23 20:09 |
| schestowitz | I ran to Old Trafford | May 23 20:11 |
| schestowitz | Many stickers on "hate Glazer, love Mn Utd." | May 23 20:11 |
| cubezzz | it's hot here too | May 23 20:11 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: now we just need to set the gulf seas on fire | May 23 20:11 |
| cubezzz | lol | May 23 20:13 |
| cubezzz | you would think there would be a way to suck the oil out of the water | May 23 20:13 |
| cubezzz | I don't think oil and water mix | May 23 20:13 |
| schestowitz | What will happen next? | May 23 20:16 |
| schestowitz | It still leaks | May 23 20:16 |
| schestowitz | What a huge global mess | May 23 20:16 |
| oiaohm | LOL cubezzz | May 23 20:17 |
| schestowitz | It's still in so many headlines, weeks after the incident | May 23 20:17 |
| oiaohm | Pure oil and water don't mix. | May 23 20:17 |
| schestowitz | How much was the tanker near Kuwait about 20 years ago (less) | May 23 20:17 |
| schestowitz | The West had a thirst for oil.... | May 23 20:17 |
| oiaohm | Non pure like natural Oils can contain detergents ie natral ones so the bastard does mix. cubezzz | May 23 20:17 |
| schestowitz | ...Now it's drinking it | May 23 20:17 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: it's crude | May 23 20:18 |
| oiaohm | crude floats for so long then sinks. | May 23 20:18 |
| oiaohm | As it takes up water. | May 23 20:18 |
| cubezzz | yeah it's a giant mess | May 23 20:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/011185.html | May 23 20:18 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/news/Blogs/makingwaves/one-drill-too-far/blog/11790 | May 23 20:18 |
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| oiaohm | due to the natural detergents in it. | May 23 20:18 |
| schestowitz | http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0520/hopes-pinned-bps-dynamic-kill-stop-oil-spill/ http://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2010/05/snls-alec-baldwin-season-finale-5-funniest-moments/56789/ | May 23 20:18 |
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| cubezzz | oiaohm, do you think such a thing has happened before? | May 23 20:19 |
| cubezzz | with those super tankers I think | May 23 20:19 |
| oiaohm | Yes it has. But last time is was 8 weeks reaching land. | May 23 20:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Puppy Arcade 8 is released! http://scottjarvis.com/page105.htm - Expect a review on Openbytes shortly! #linux #foss #gnu | May 23 20:19 | |
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| oiaohm | So the oil sunk before it got to beachs. | May 23 20:19 |
| oiaohm | Ie under see well breach. | May 23 20:20 |
| oiaohm | see/sea | May 23 20:20 |
| oiaohm | Basically the slick has a max size set by nature of the crude. cubezzz | May 23 20:21 |
| oiaohm | What is in tankers is a bigger concern. Since its already been first stage processed. | May 23 20:22 |
| oiaohm | What is natural detergents neturalised. | May 23 20:22 |
| oiaohm | Yes it still a great big mess cubezzz | May 23 20:25 |
| schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/05/17/key-engineer-leaves-twitter | May 23 20:26 |
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| schestowitz | Is Twitter still growing? | May 23 20:26 |
| schestowitz | BP fine might be just 75m dollars | May 23 20:27 |
| schestowitz | Outrageous | May 23 20:27 |
| schestowitz | When BP spills in Nigeria nobody notices | May 23 20:27 |
| schestowitz | "They are just black people" --Western press | May 23 20:28 |
| schestowitz | This time the US is affected so they bloody do care | May 23 20:28 |
| schestowitz | I watches some footage about how Shell and BP pollute the Nigr Delta | May 23 20:28 |
| schestowitz | They hardly even bother maintaining and fixing pipes there | May 23 20:28 |
| schestowitz | http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/05/20/brothers.reunite.twitter.mashable/index.html | May 23 20:31 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] BBC News - Is YouTube's three-strike rule fair to users? http://tinyurl.com/27ts47r | May 23 20:35 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.boingboing.net/2010/05/19/nigerian-politician.html? | May 23 20:41 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: http://www.pcworld.com/article/196771/oracle_to_acquire_database_security_firm_secerno.html?tk=rss_news | May 23 20:44 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.cbronline.com/news/oracle_releases_new_version_of_mysql_enterprise_100517 | May 23 20:44 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.techworld.com.au/article/346636/recession_boosts_brazil_chip_aspirations?fp=2&fpid=1&rid=1 | May 23 20:46 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Old, but interesting. Dr. Justin Berrett from Oxford University: Children Born Believers in God. http://is.gd/cm8y6 | May 23 20:46 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.boingboing.net/2010/05/22/rip-martin-gardner.html | May 23 20:47 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://www.pcworld.com/article/196865/Walmart.html?tk=rss_news | May 23 20:58 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/196407/why_americans_identities_are_easily_stolen.html?tk=rss_news | May 23 20:59 |
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| schestowitz | IT's slave camp: http://www.cbronline.com/news/wipro_bags_new_data_centre_projects_in_india_100513 | May 23 21:00 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/196756/ztes_first_japanese_handset_designed_for_elderly_users.html?tk=rss_news | May 23 21:01 |
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| schestowitz | Linux based by any chance? | May 23 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: No clue. | May 23 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | What I can tell you is they want it to mine data more efficiently | May 23 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Walmart has been wanting RFID at every level of their supply chain since around 2003 | May 23 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | they currently use it to track pallets of merchandise in their warehouse, but not individual items at their stores yet | May 23 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | if implemented on a per-item basis, it would essentially make the cashiers obsolete | May 23 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | they want the RFID for data mining and inventory control, yes, but it also lets them fire thousands of people | May 23 21:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Younger teen has new baby kitten! Black. Name probably Mikhail. Tabs (age 15) unconcerned. Kitty is purring. | May 23 21:07 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: thanks for the info | May 23 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | I remember them saying something about how they'd go ahead with this once they can get the cost per RFID chip to below 1 cent each | May 23 21:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk | May 23 21:08 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The great thing about RFID is that they don't have to deactivate the chip once you buy the item | May 23 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | so anywhere you go wearing that pair of jeans you bought, you could be not only announcing your presence, but letting them and "partners" build data about where else you go and what you buy there | May 23 21:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Kitty name is actually Mihael (Serbian for "Michael"). Pic: http://twitpic.com/1qfspw | May 23 21:09 | |
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| DaemonFC | and link the data to you by name | May 23 21:09 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXxtvAy4Rzs | May 23 21:10 |
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| schestowitz | :-) | May 23 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | so say Starbucks wants personal data about what kind of coffee you buy and when you visit their stores | May 23 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | they pay Walmart to track your underwear, and bingo :P | May 23 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | even paying in cash, they can still personally identify you | May 23 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | so you're basically bugged by a chip that doesn't need a power supply, and doesn't have to store that much data on itself | May 23 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 23 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | it's not GPS or anything, but they can log what time you passed by what scanner | May 23 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | their goal is to make it as unobtrusive as possible so that people won't know that it's there or what it's doing :) | May 23 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | May 23 21:14 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I think the talk is due to a spike in card skimmer setups lately | May 23 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | fake card readers on gas pumps and such | May 23 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | often the modifications make the reader look so fake you'd have to be an idiot to slide your card | May 23 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 23 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | vending machines like those Redbox kiosks are made to make it difficult to mount anything near their reader | May 23 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | that's what should be mandatory | May 23 21:37 |
| schestowitz | Hmmmm... | May 23 21:38 |
| schestowitz | Which talk? | May 23 21:38 |
| schestowitz | I'm not following | May 23 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | also if they'd stop letting you run the debit cards as a credit card, a lot of this fraud would stop | May 23 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | if I run my debit card as a credit card, I don't need anything else to complete the transaction | May 23 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | if I run it as debit, I need my pin | May 23 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | unfortunately, Wells Fargo charges so much to the merchants to let them run their debit cards, that often the only way to pay for something is by running it as a Visa credit card | May 23 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | the problem I run into there is if I go to some stores that can only do debit card transactions | May 23 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 23 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/23/AR2010052302921.html | May 23 21:45 |
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| DaemonFC | :D | May 23 21:45 |
| schestowitz | just $117,000? | May 23 21:48 |
| schestowitz | That's minor crime | May 23 21:48 |
| schestowitz | WashPos? | May 23 21:48 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/05/23/deltacloud/ | May 23 21:49 |
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| schestowitz | OK, now I can type properly again... | May 23 21:49 |
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| schestowitz | Weird. My connection is too slow for HD YouTube ATM | May 23 22:04 |
| schestowitz | THis is rare, happened last year for a day | May 23 22:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] New blog post: What Are The Fiduciary Duties Of Heritage Minister James Moore? http://bit.ly/cPoz42 | May 23 22:21 | |
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| lisa_ | Help :) | May 23 22:28 |
| lisa_ | We have only a few hours to do some research, I need some input | May 23 22:29 |
| lisa_ | anyone here? | May 23 22:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Using ssh -X to Ubuntu from OSX,starting Rhythmbox. Annoying that RB hides in the notification area. Can't bring it to front. | May 23 22:30 | |
| _goblin | hello lisa | May 23 22:39 |
| _goblin | Can I help? | May 23 22:40 |
| lisa_ | hi thanks | May 23 22:41 |
| lisa_ | our school board is trying to PUSH thru approval for a $300k MS renew | May 23 22:42 |
| _goblin | right... | May 23 22:42 |
| lisa_ | they are shutting us down, not letting us ask questions and trying to sneak thru this approval all while laying off teachers | May 23 22:42 |
| lisa_ | we are hearing "MS is what the world uses, not OOo" | May 23 22:43 |
| _goblin | yeah....standard line that. | May 23 22:43 |
| lisa_ | I think there is something fishy with our "MS and Dell Partnerships" or whatever it is | May 23 22:43 |
| lisa_ | why are they being so sneaky? what are they getting out of it? | May 23 22:44 |
| _goblin | ah.... | May 23 22:44 |
| schestowitz | Hi, lisa_ | May 23 22:44 |
| _goblin | I'll leave this to you Roy. | May 23 22:45 |
| lisa_ | :) | May 23 22:45 |
| schestowitz | lisa_: I read a similar story today | May 23 22:45 |
| schestowitz | Let me find it | May 23 22:45 |
| lisa_ | I appreciate any input, as we have accidentally stumbled upon this issue | May 23 22:45 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com.au/microsoft-costs-cut-csiro-it-jobs-339303337.htm | May 23 22:45 |
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| schestowitz | lisa_: what role are you people in? | May 23 22:46 |
| schestowitz | Teachers or IT people? | May 23 22:46 |
| schestowitz | because students need to be taught, not trained for products from Dell/Microsoft/etc | May 23 22:46 |
| lisa_ | right, I agree. I am a parent, (May law school grad, and bus driver) | May 23 22:47 |
| schestowitz | In schools, features/productivity are even a lesser priority anyway because children are given tools in the form of methods, their produce isn't sold | May 23 22:47 |
| schestowitz | lisa_: do you know Richard Stallman's articles on Free software in schools? | May 23 22:47 |
| schestowitz | Because aside from that, you might want to see who benefits/pockets from signing such deals | May 23 22:48 |
| lisa_ | well, our priority is Football, we are Hoover (MTV 2-a-days) | May 23 22:48 |
| schestowitz | I have some antitrust documents where Microsoft admits using "inside friend, 'the fox" | May 23 22:48 |
| lisa_ | they won't let us see the agreement | May 23 22:48 |
| schestowitz | Hoover? | May 23 22:48 |
| lisa_ | yes | May 23 22:48 |
| schestowitz | President/product/other | May 23 22:48 |
| lisa_ | Hoover High School | May 23 22:49 |
| schestowitz | Ah, OK | May 23 22:49 |
| schestowitz | And they want to sell your wage to Michael Dell and Steve Ballmer | May 23 22:49 |
| schestowitz | Your programs that you use can run on Fedora, even with Wine | May 23 22:49 |
| lisa_ | yes, they shut down when we started asking questions | May 23 22:49 |
| schestowitz | Write a petition | May 23 22:50 |
| schestowitz | Inform students and parents | May 23 22:50 |
| schestowitz | Promote rather than disparage | May 23 22:50 |
| schestowitz | The latter would be a put-off | May 23 22:50 |
| schestowitz | Explain that children need skills and teachers, not 'products'. They are children, not 'consumers' | May 23 22:51 |
| schestowitz | If parents butt in, then the schools is pressured | May 23 22:51 |
| lisa_ | we don't have time, they are going to vote tomorrow at 8am (unscheduled board meeting, at unusual time) | May 23 22:51 |
| schestowitz | They can't sign a deal when there's wrath around | May 23 22:51 |
| lisa_ | so I need info, to bench the deal | May 23 22:51 |
| lisa_ | until we can get enough interest | May 23 22:51 |
| schestowitz | What type of info? | May 23 22:51 |
| schestowitz | Seems more like you combat collusion | May 23 22:52 |
| schestowitz | You are left out while they enrich themselves | May 23 22:52 |
| lisa_ | like that antitrust doc you mentioned | May 23 22:52 |
| lisa_ | yes, and they fire teachers to pay for it | May 23 22:52 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft compensated those who sign and pressured for firing those who don't. We have court evidence | May 23 22:52 |
| lisa_ | where can I find that? | May 23 22:53 |
| schestowitz | We have the same problem here, with BECTA | May 23 22:53 |
| schestowitz | We have a Wiki page on BECTA at Techrights | May 23 22:53 |
| lisa_ | all we are asking them for is to TRY open source | May 23 22:53 |
| schestowitz | They pretend to have received discount/bargain | May 23 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes Microsoft gives it for free on a short-term basis | May 23 22:53 |
| lisa_ | yes, that is how they are explaining it..."it's saving us money" | May 23 22:53 |
| schestowitz | lisa_: I have success stories with schools | May 23 22:54 |
| schestowitz | If I give you some, will that be of use? | May 23 22:54 |
| lisa_ | I need everything you have pretaining to schools | May 23 22:54 |
| schestowitz | lisa_: it's not just about money | May 23 22:54 |
| schestowitz | Explain about education | May 23 22:54 |
| lisa_ | I KNOW, there is something sinister I feel | May 23 22:54 |
| schestowitz | The children ate trained to serve a monopoly abusers | May 23 22:54 |
| schestowitz | That's ethically wrong, let alone expensive | May 23 22:54 |
| lisa_ | YES, like giving them tobacco | May 23 22:55 |
| schestowitz | lisa_: I have a lot of things on schools | May 23 22:55 |
| cubezzz | ha | May 23 22:55 |
| schestowitz | lisa_: yes, as an analogy | May 23 22:55 |
| lisa_ | creating them to be dependent on MS | May 23 22:55 |
| cubezzz | the sinister era is pretty much in decline | May 23 22:55 |
| schestowitz | lisa_: hold on.... I'll give you material | May 23 22:55 |
| cubezzz | 1995-2000 <- sinister era | May 23 22:55 |
| cubezzz | the 80's were cool though :) | May 23 22:56 |
| schestowitz | lisa_: see http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=http://schestowitz.com+schools&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= | May 23 22:56 |
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| lisa_ | thanks! my son (Auburn engineering student) told me about OOo when I was obsessing over not having Office on my new computer. | May 23 22:56 |
| schestowitz | That's some of the links I collected about schools and Linux/free open source in 2006-2009 | May 23 22:56 |
| schestowitz | oops | May 23 22:56 |
| schestowitz | Wrong link | May 23 22:56 |
| schestowitz | Hold on | May 23 22:56 |
| schestowitz | This one: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=site:http://schestowitz.com+schools&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= | May 23 22:57 |
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| cubezzz | schestowitz, why don't you make a school section on techrights? | May 23 22:57 |
| schestowitz | I could.... | May 23 22:57 |
| schestowitz | I lack time | May 23 22:57 |
| lisa_ | then I downloaded and started using and wondered..."why don't we use this at the schools? it's FREE" | May 23 22:57 |
| schestowitz | I have 20 posts for tomorrow, stacked, need work | May 23 22:57 |
| schestowitz | I can't quite balance new stories and maintenance | May 23 22:57 |
| schestowitz | lisa_: US< right? | May 23 22:58 |
| cubezzz | don't worry, things are definitely improving | May 23 22:58 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has a lot of retaliation power vs US schools | May 23 22:58 |
| cubezzz | we have coreboot now :) | May 23 22:58 |
| schestowitz | They use 'moles' to attack the IT admin who deploy non-Microsoft | May 23 22:58 |
| schestowitz | There's a similar story in Canadas | May 23 22:58 |
| schestowitz | In Europe (exc. UK) it's harder for them | May 23 22:58 |
| lisa_ | Oh yeah! Our IT guy is listed on the MS website, a "case study" | May 23 22:58 |
| schestowitz | In the US they have loads of PR to brainwash parents/teachers | May 23 22:59 |
| schestowitz | Case study is advert | May 23 22:59 |
| cubezzz | and our stores suck :-/ | May 23 22:59 |
| schestowitz | Case study and "Whitepaper" are scams | May 23 22:59 |
| schestowitz | Companies put some brand on it | May 23 22:59 |
| cubezzz | it's bad in the States, yeah | May 23 22:59 |
| schestowitz | And name this "official" proof | May 23 22:59 |
| schestowitz | There's a need for # of people | May 23 23:00 |
| schestowitz | Like they did in India | May 23 23:00 |
| schestowitz | They held up signs with images I made | May 23 23:00 |
| schestowitz | Many adults and kids held them up in protest | May 23 23:00 |
| lisa_ | wow, I had no idea | May 23 23:00 |
| cubezzz | I do Linux installs as part of my job, so I say things are improving | May 23 23:01 |
| lisa_ | I was one of the blind foloowers | May 23 23:01 |
| cubezzz | I get *paid* to do this :) | May 23 23:01 |
| schestowitz | No way :-) | May 23 23:01 |
| cubezzz | I don't even think of windows as a proper OS | May 23 23:01 |
| schestowitz | I thought only hippies with sandals and aspergers syndrome support Linux /sarcasm | May 23 23:02 |
| cubezzz | there's Haiku, AROS, Solaris and a ton of better ones | May 23 23:02 |
| lisa_ | I have Ubuntu on my netbook, but I am so MS challenged, it's hard for me to use | May 23 23:02 |
| schestowitz | Is Solaris still going under Oracle's ruile? | May 23 23:02 |
| schestowitz | (rule | May 23 23:02 |
| cubezzz | dunno, I just see OpenSolaris, but I didn't care for it | May 23 23:02 |
| cubezzz | I just say it's better than doze :) | May 23 23:02 |
| schestowitz | lisa_: now you know how I feel when I need to see Windows | May 23 23:03 |
| schestowitz | lisa_: children don't have this problem | May 23 23:03 |
| schestowitz | au contraire, it's them that can change trends and that's why Microsoft attacks their minds with an assault on schools with "EDGI" | May 23 23:03 |
| cubezzz | I'd install Fedora in schools if I had a choice | May 23 23:03 |
| lisa_ | I know, my younger son can zip thru anything. And let me tell you, the kids are the only ones in our schools who are computer literate | May 23 23:03 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft runs "anti-Linux" programmes where they fight what they call "Linux infestations" | May 23 23:03 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is a very, very vicious company, but one needs to look at antitrust exhibits to see more | May 23 23:04 |
| cubezzz | now we had practically roll our own OS | May 23 23:04 |
| schestowitz | lisa_: how many teachers resent the impending decision? | May 23 23:04 |
| schestowitz | Is that in Florida? | May 23 23:04 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: yeah :-) | May 23 23:05 |
| lisa_ | where are those exhibits? I don't know that any are paying attention | May 23 23:05 |
| cubezzz | Microsoft is totally passé | May 23 23:05 |
| schestowitz | lisa_: for schools? | May 23 23:05 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EDGI | May 23 23:05 |
| Techrights | Title: EDGI - Techrights .::. Size~: 17.01 KB | May 23 23:05 |
| cubezzz | lol, I just realized I have CBM fonts | May 23 23:06 |
| schestowitz | You can show them the ones where Microsoft fights Linux in schools and uses derogatory language | May 23 23:06 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: my fonts here kind of stink... I never installed additional one | May 23 23:06 |
| schestowitz | In GIMP I could use some fancy fonts sometimes.... can't be bothered to install more | May 23 23:06 |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, I have fonts galore | May 23 23:06 |
| cubezzz | KAPL even | May 23 23:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Watching Terminator on BBC2, Ginger with her walkman permanently on reminds me of people nowadays with their ipods attached. | May 23 23:06 | |
| schestowitz | I would only need them for when I do images | May 23 23:06 |
| schestowitz | Apple PCs come with nice fonts in the default sets | May 23 23:07 |
| lisa_ | thanks guys, I am going to get to work. I will let you know how it goes. | May 23 23:07 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft's are/were bad (not used it since WIn98) | May 23 23:07 |
| schestowitz | lisa_: thanks for dropping by | May 23 23:07 |
| cubezzz | bah, the dark era is over :) | May 23 23:07 |
| cubezzz | good luck lisa_ | May 23 23:07 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: not in the West | May 23 23:07 |
| schestowitz | Here in Britland Microsoft still rules decision-makers | May 23 23:07 |
| schestowitz | I put great hope in South America | May 23 23:08 |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, I always thought you guys were better off than Canada though | May 23 23:08 |
| schestowitz | They give Microsoft the "Che treatment" there | May 23 23:08 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: I doubt it | May 23 23:08 |
| cubezzz | imagine how cool it would be if I could do CBM and KPAL characters in here | May 23 23:09 |
| schestowitz | What are these? | May 23 23:09 |
| cubezzz | you guys have a9home and stuff like that | May 23 23:09 |
| cubezzz | CBM = Commodore Business Machines | May 23 23:10 |
| schestowitz | Ah... | May 23 23:10 |
| cubezzz | KPAL = font for APL programming :) | May 23 23:10 |
| schestowitz | good bezier curves? | May 23 23:10 |
| schestowitz | Would that not be mono-sized? | May 23 23:10 |
| cubezzz | it looks monosized yeah | May 23 23:10 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: I has nice fonts in Mandrake (2002) | May 23 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Better than some I have now | May 23 23:11 |
| schestowitz | I made some logos with these | May 23 23:11 |
| cubezzz | maybe I can run a bash session with CBM font :) | May 23 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, that's what I thought | May 23 23:12 |
| schestowitz | Not good for Web broswser font set | May 23 23:12 |
| cubezzz | ok, I can't use CBM :) | May 23 23:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Still Published in Several Printed Magazines (in Digital Age) http://ur1.ca/02xgi | May 23 23:15 | |
| Techrights | Title: Linux Today - Editor's Note: A Herd of Print Linux Magazines .::. Size~: 85.59 KB | May 23 23:15 |
| cubezzz | it's totally unusable in konsole | May 23 23:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Sheldon Cooper Uses #GNU #Linux on the Desktop, Many Others Do Too http://ur1.ca/02xgo http://ur1.ca/02xgp | May 23 23:16 | |
| Techrights | Title: Sheldon Cooper: Ubuntu User .::. Size~: 50.93 KB | May 23 23:16 |
| cubezzz | i wished I clued into this before when I was trying to program in APL | May 23 23:17 |
| cubezzz | KAPL is usable | May 23 23:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Halsema geplonkt, krijg de schijt van dat moddergooien. | May 23 23:17 | |
| cubezzz | check out CBM font: | May 23 23:18 |
| cubezzz | http://maxhost.org/other/konsole-cbm.png | May 23 23:18 |
| Techrights | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/png type .::. Size~: 0 KB | May 23 23:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Australian Taxation Office Angers Citizens Who Value Their Software Freedom http://ur1.ca/02xhb | May 23 23:19 | |
| Techrights | Title: Linux users cry fail over ATO AUSKey compatibility - Auskey, security, open source, Linux, Java, ATO - CIO .::. Size~: 94.84 KB | May 23 23:19 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: that looks terrible | May 23 23:20 |
| cubezzz | I can't remember installing it :) | May 23 23:21 |
| cubezzz | must have been a long time ago | May 23 23:21 |
| sebsebseb | uh :( Chrome/Chromeium fan boys | May 23 23:21 |
| sebsebseb | Firefox :) | May 23 23:22 |
| sebsebseb | even so though this is an interesting link | May 23 23:22 |
| sebsebseb | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/just-how-popular-is-chrome-on-linux.html | May 23 23:22 |
| Techrights | Title: Just how popular is Chrome/ium on Linux? answer: Very | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 66.61 KB | May 23 23:22 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Analysis of #Ceph for #Linux , New Kernel Review http://www.ucsc.edu/news_events/press_releases/text.asp?pid=3807 | May 23 23:25 | |
| Techrights | Title: New version of Linux OS includes Ceph file system developed at UCSC .::. Size~: 12.74 KB | May 23 23:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[aondo] dvdleaks | May 23 23:38 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #MathWorks Targets #Linux a Little More http://ur1.ca/02xk0 http://ur1.ca/02xk3 | May 23 23:42 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #KDE SC Gets 'Picasa Killer'; #GNOME Foundation Elections 2010 Imminent http://ur1.ca/02xkh http://ur1.ca/02xki | May 23 23:42 | |
| Techrights | Title: MathWorks tunes open-source plans through Eclipse - 20/05/2010 - Electronics Weekly .::. Size~: 61.9 KB | May 23 23:42 |
| Techrights | Title: digiKam Photo Manager To Get Face Recognition ~ Web Upd8 .::. Size~: 60.26 KB | May 23 23:42 |
| Techrights | Title: GNOME Foundation Elections 2010 - journal zen - par Vincent .::. Size~: 15.37 KB | May 23 23:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ABC #GNU #Linux Rises, #Trisquel GNU/Linux 4.0 Now in Beta http://ur1.ca/02xkp http://ur1.ca/02xkq | May 23 23:44 | |
| Techrights | Title: A new distribution designed which communicates computers so that they can work in parallel .::. Size~: 58.82 KB | May 23 23:44 |
| Techrights | Title: Trisquel GNU/Linux 4.0 Beta | Muktware .::. Size~: 22.48 KB | May 23 23:44 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at the Release Candidate of #Mandriva #GNU #Linux 2010.1 http://ur1.ca/02xl2 http://ur1.ca/02xl4 | May 23 23:46 | |
| Techrights | Title: Mandriva Linux 2010 Spring RC released - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 34.18 KB | May 23 23:46 |
| Techrights | Title: Mandriva Linux 2010.1 RC1 Is Ready for Testing - Final release coming in two weeks - Softpedia .::. Size~: 50.19 KB | May 23 23:46 |
| cubezzz | there was the old cnet | May 23 23:47 |
| cubezzz | I wonder if anyone still uses it | May 23 23:47 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat on #deltaCloud , Up a Notch http://ur1.ca/02xlk http://ur1.ca/02xll | May 23 23:47 | |
| cubezzz | KDE 3.4.2 is just so good | May 23 23:48 |
| cubezzz | I installed in somewhere in late 2005 | May 23 23:48 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fedora #GNU #Linux 13 Impresses http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7765/1.html http://lwn.net/Articles/387013/ | May 23 23:51 | |
| Techrights | Title: Oh My Goddard! An Early Look at Fedora 13 | Linux Magazine .::. Size~: 42.54 KB | May 23 23:51 |
| Techrights | Title: Of hall monitors and slippery slopes [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 38.3 KB | May 23 23:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Tomorrow's Televisions Might All Use #Linux http://www.itrunsonlinux.com/news/174-google-tv-platform-introduced | May 23 23:56 | |
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