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| DaemonFC | it's a stunt and a lie | May 27 00:00 |
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| DaemonFC | same thing they said about MP3 | May 27 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | what they mean is that you'll end up paying them whenever you buy software to encode or hardware to play it back | May 27 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 27 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | it's smart of them to not go directly after end users | May 27 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | they don't want to go after end users | May 27 00:02 |
| oiaohm | And you techically have to pay them when you want to give stuff to friends. | May 27 00:07 |
| oiaohm | Basically MPEG-LA is evil. | May 27 00:07 |
| oiaohm | Makes MS look nice. | May 27 00:07 |
| oiaohm | And that is a really hard thing todo. | May 27 00:08 |
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| zoobab | MS is MPEGLA member | May 27 00:10 |
| schestowitz | go fsf: http://www.fsf.org/news/2010-05-app-store-compliance/ | May 27 00:13 |
| Techrights | Title: GPL Enforcement in Apple's App Store — Free Software Foundation .::. Size~: 26.45 KB | May 27 00:13 |
| oiaohm | They have to be zoobab | May 27 00:15 |
| oiaohm | Memember= we pay. | May 27 00:15 |
| WireWulf | ,p | May 27 00:16 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: had to come. Best thing apple did it themselves. It was not a third party. | May 27 00:17 |
| oiaohm | So we might see the i devices opened up. schestowitz | May 27 00:18 |
| schestowitz | [00:15] <oiaohm> Memember= we pay. | May 27 00:19 |
| schestowitz | http://divisionoflabour.com/archives/alien_from_the_movie.png | May 27 00:19 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: hype* devices? | May 27 00:20 |
| oiaohm | Yep schestowitz | May 27 00:21 |
| oiaohm | Issue here Apple broke GPL. | May 27 00:21 |
| oiaohm | Since they did and apple can change the rules on the SDK | May 27 00:21 |
| oiaohm | Yep FSF will go for full compliance to get the SDK rules chanced to GPL friendly. | May 27 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | Were they caught trying to steal GPL code like Microsoft was? | May 27 00:22 |
| oiaohm | Basically Apple has got themselves into a nice stack of hot water. | May 27 00:22 |
| oiaohm | GNU Go running on ipad's and ipods provides by apple. DaemonFC | May 27 00:23 |
| oiaohm | That is a little more than a small bit sneaking under the table DaemonFC | May 27 00:23 |
| oiaohm | Ie whole program. | May 27 00:23 |
| oiaohm | MS infractions on GPL has been minor in compare. DaemonFC | May 27 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft believes in doing the right thing and having the highest ethical standards in the industry | May 27 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | just like Apple | May 27 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | (after they get caught) | May 27 00:24 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft has played by the rules | May 27 00:24 |
| oiaohm | Or at least tried to with copyright. | May 27 00:24 |
| oiaohm | A few mistakes yes but every company does. | May 27 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | 1. The program in question wasn't something real important to them. | May 27 00:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] In the #severedfifth studio laying down drum tracks for the second albums second cover. It is an Iron Maiden song. :-) | May 27 00:25 | |
| DaemonFC | 2. Better to make the situation go away than fight it, probably lose, and draw bad PR | May 27 00:25 |
| oiaohm | And when caught Microsoft have ended up releasing more source code. | May 27 00:25 |
| oiaohm | Under GPL then they were required. | May 27 00:25 |
| oiaohm | As settlement. | May 27 00:25 |
| oiaohm | Apple on the other hand in the past has just vaporised the app. DaemonFC | May 27 00:26 |
| oiaohm | Its one of the major differences between Apple and Microsoft. | May 27 00:26 |
| oiaohm | Note releasing source code and vaporising app are both solutions to problem DaemonFC | May 27 00:27 |
| oiaohm | Will apple be different this time around. | May 27 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, all the FSF has to do is send a DMCA take down notice | May 27 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | same kind the RIAA uses | May 27 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 27 00:28 |
| oiaohm | Not FSF way. | May 27 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | I'd do it that way | May 27 00:29 |
| oiaohm | GPL is more harmful in caught if you keep on shipping it. | May 27 00:29 |
| oiaohm | court | May 27 00:29 |
| oiaohm | They send you a notice of breach. Don't order a take down. | May 27 00:29 |
| oiaohm | If you don't take it down you are agreeing to the conditions of GPL. So are now legally bounded to follow them. | May 27 00:30 |
| oiaohm | So when you get in court you are so screwed. | May 27 00:30 |
| oiaohm | DMCA take down notices are usless with GPL. | May 27 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | I remember Ubuntu sent one to the MPAA | May 27 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | to get them to stop distributing the "university toolkit" spyware | May 27 00:31 |
| oiaohm | Different matter. | May 27 00:32 |
| oiaohm | They were doing brand damage. | May 27 00:32 |
| schestowitz | http://www.fsf.org/ar/2010-05-app-store-compliance | May 27 00:32 |
| Techrights | Title: فرض GPL في متجر أبل للتطبيقات — Free Software Foundation .::. Size~: 25.19 KB | May 27 00:32 |
| oiaohm | Yes the notice also will be posted in all languages. | May 27 00:33 |
| oiaohm | And broadcast threw news systems. | May 27 00:33 |
| oiaohm | So Apple will not be able to claim the did not know about it. | May 27 00:34 |
| oiaohm | Legal side of the FSF is 100 percent effective. | May 27 00:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/05/apple-passes-microsoft/ | May 27 00:40 |
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| DaemonFC | I may have to get one of those air purifiers | May 27 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | the damned dust in here is ridiculous | May 27 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | this room looks like a 3,000 year old tomb if I don't dust every day | May 27 00:44 |
| schestowitz | http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/347011/open_source_pushed_ghana_meeting/?fp=4194304&fpid=1 | May 27 00:44 |
| schestowitz | "Open-source software developers, governments and entrepreneurs are meeting in Ghana to address ways to promote innovation and develop legislation that does not favor proprietary software in procurements. African governments have been accused of failing to provide level playing fields in procurement processes because some of the invitations to tender specify particular software, locking out other solutions." | May 27 00:44 |
| Techrights | Title: Open source pushed at Ghana meeting - open source, ghana - Computerworld .::. Size~: 72.22 KB | May 27 00:44 |
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| DaemonFC | it figures | May 27 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | the mirror in Sweden is faster than any of them in the US | May 27 01:18 |
| schestowitz | What file/s? | May 27 01:23 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@frederikhermans @woodsy_bristol @qu1j0t3 #virtualbox with a #Ubuntu image does the trick //for a light VM can also try Ubuntu-based #JeOS | May 27 01:28 | |
| DaemonFC | the Mandriva ISO | May 27 01:28 |
| schestowitz | I have PCLOS 2010 | May 27 01:28 |
| schestowitz | Same thing | May 27 01:28 |
| schestowitz | You know the diffs | May 27 01:28 |
| schestowitz | http://www.timeslive.co.za/lifestyle/article467583.ece/Mass-suicide-on-Facebook | May 27 01:35 |
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| schestowitz | what "interoperability, with swpats" makes me think of: http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=CG-FISHBIKE&Category_Code=CG-TEES "http://identi.ca/conversation/33543451#notice-33701935" | May 27 01:36 |
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| DaemonFC | isn't that the guy that forked Mandriva, couldn't maintain the fork, and ended up forking again | May 27 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | it's Mandriva with Apt-RPM for some hellish reason | May 27 01:39 |
| schestowitz | Used to be Mandrake | May 27 01:42 |
| schestowitz | Are you thinking about texstar? | May 27 01:42 |
| schestowitz | Ripper and the Gang? | May 27 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | May 27 01:43 |
| schestowitz | He didn't make money from the project, AFAIK | May 27 01:44 |
| schestowitz | Same with Barry of Puppy | May 27 01:44 |
| schestowitz | Oh, and MEPIS... Warren Woodward | May 27 01:45 |
| schestowitz | Knapper is doing some academic stuff | May 27 01:45 |
| schestowitz | Knopper? | May 27 01:45 |
| oiaohm | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/serviceos-microsofts-morphing-browser-operating-system-project/6344 Boy MS is in a crappy state. | May 27 01:49 |
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| oiaohm | http://vocamus.net/dave/?p=1092 Hello web gaming. | May 27 01:55 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, Microsoft experiments a lot | May 27 02:02 |
| schestowitz | Saimgularity, remember? | May 27 02:02 |
| schestowitz | *Singularity | May 27 02:02 |
| schestowitz | Midori... | May 27 02:02 |
| schestowitz | http://paidcontent.org/article/419-whats-next-for-microsoft-in-ed/ | May 27 02:03 |
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| schestowitz | "Who succeeds Ballmer as CEO? Ballmer is only 54 and has the support of chairman Bill Gates, but he has now been Microsoft’s CEO for 10 years and has had a decidedly mixed tenure. Bach had been mentioned as a successor to Ballmer in the past. Bach’s departure would seem to leave chief operating officer Kevin Turner or the widely respected Steven Sinofsky, who leads the company’s Windows division, as the most likely successors. | May 27 02:03 |
| schestowitz | Indeed, there were rumors earlier this year that Sinofsky would be given oversight of Windows Mobile in addition to Windows—something which could still potentially happen." | May 27 02:03 |
| schestowitz | It's possible he'll retire soon and vanish | May 27 02:03 |
| oiaohm | Note its the same idea as Singularity recycled. schestowitz | May 27 02:05 |
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| schestowitz | New code name... | May 27 02:13 |
| schestowitz | MSN->Live-:>Bong[sic] | May 27 02:14 |
| schestowitz | VIsta->Mojave>Seven | May 27 02:14 |
| *WireWulf is now known as WireWulf-away | May 27 02:16 | |
| schestowitz | Paul Thurrott: "And to its credit, Google does open source many of its technologies, effectively losing control of them in the process. " | May 27 02:17 |
| schestowitz | Myth spreader of fool? | May 27 02:17 |
| schestowitz | http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/cloud-computing2/Three-Screams-Clod-Microsoft-Google.aspx | May 27 02:17 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@Elsacorral RT @rightfullyleft: same disaster happened 30 yrs ago //NOT the same disaster. This is 1 Exxon Valdez EVERY DAY..until capped | May 27 02:47 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Drums for the secret Iron Maiden cover for Severed Fifth II are complete and sounding rocking. :-) | May 27 03:12 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Upgrading to Maverick #ubuntu | May 27 03:41 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@avivao Dems retreat from class conflict, won't touch tax loophole on wealthy //crazy that 'paying tax' has been rebranded 'class conflict' | May 27 03:48 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @piratepartyau: It's @timetotellmum. Reach out 2 ur families, and let them know just what internet filtering really means. #openinternt | May 27 04:05 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@Liam_Fox Pope declares #gaymarriage, #abortion most "insidious and dangerous" threats to world // this is a joke, right? | May 27 04:13 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Still unclear to me why Catholic church isn't MUCH more active in environmental protection. Didn't God make it all? | May 27 04:21 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Still unclear to me why Catholic church isn't MUCH more active against #war, globally. Doesn't matter till a cathedral gets hit? | May 27 04:22 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Upgrade to Maverick was successful. Rock and roll! :-) | May 27 04:23 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'ppl who are renting it want to go faster &drill, & ppl..operating rig want to maintain integrity of rig,..a natural conflict' #capitalism | May 27 04:27 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] http://bit.ly/dkdANz 'something you learn at well-control school,... If you're circulating fluid, you need to monitor' #gulfspill #oil | May 27 04:28 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@Shoq .@maddow revisits leaking well from 1979 in the Gulf. never capped it. Relief wells took 9 MTHS. // what was the FLOW RATE??? @avivao | May 27 04:36 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@manx_cat Exactly-that's the self-justifying insanity of it. "If God dinna want us to wreck it, he wouldna put it here,would he?" #Palinism | May 27 04:42 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @openflows: How to Get More Privacy From Facebook's New Privacy Controls http://bit.ly/a74wSF #privacy | May 27 05:05 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] If you saw the earlier Lucky Ducky comic, this comes as no surprise http://ur1.ca/03qxp | May 27 05:07 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] The vandals that slashed hundreds of feet of oil cleanup booms should be the first things we stuff down the rupture http://ur1.ca/03qy6 | May 27 05:12 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] New blog post: Patents - Why They Exist, And... http://madhatter.ca/2010/05/27/patents-why-they-exist-and-why-they-possibly-shouldnt-exist/ | May 27 05:14 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Senate panel approves bill banning the word "retarded" from federal laws, opting for more correct "Palin-American" http://ur1.ca/03qz8 | May 27 05:17 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Lawyer subpoenaes traffic cameras, they don't show up http://ur1.ca/03qzo | May 27 05:22 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] City finds out huge legal marujana farm increases tax revanue and generates jobs http://ur1.ca/03r0y | May 27 05:27 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] We need some sort of "beat a BP executive like a piñata" day http://ur1.ca/03r1f | May 27 05:32 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Congress and the FCC just sold us out on #NetNeutrality. Sign this letter and tell them they don't speak for us: http://freepr.es/aTpq4b | May 27 05:42 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] People vs. Corporate Lobbyists http://bit.ly/98LdUL | May 27 05:42 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Some Democrats are selling out the Internet, joining AT&T against Net Neutrality? Take action! http://bit.ly/9NsD8C | May 27 05:42 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] That is the the thing about biographies, you really need to read a few of them to get a better idea. Sort of average them out. | May 27 05:59 | |
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| MinceR | http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/05/fsf-apples-itunes-store-terms-of-service-at-odds-with-gpl.ars | May 27 06:30 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Obama admin protecting #Bush abuses, more planned? http://salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/05/25/whistleblowers h/t @eikonos | May 27 06:37 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @a_picazo #Israel bombs #Gaza in night raid http://bit.ly/dvSWrv // why? because they can... #war #genocide | May 27 06:38 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] a_picazo #cdnpoli Must Watch - #Harper's $1B+ #G8 #G20 fail and lies http://bit.ly/anJ5kw #cdnpoli Where's $ going? /on #BUSTYHOOKERS #DUH! | May 27 06:42 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @a_picazo #cdnpoli Must Watch - #Harper's $1B+ #G8 #G20 fail and lies http://bit.ly/anJ5kw Where's $ going? //on #BUSTYHOOKERS #DUH! | May 27 06:42 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @a_picazo Arctic #oil spill cd be 'catastrophic' http://bit.ly/dsrFBe //nah, cdn't happen. & if did, just a chocolate slushie=#rwnj logic | May 27 06:47 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @DaemonFC Duhh?! | May 27 07:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @DaemonFC Why don't you tell me something I don't already know for once? | May 27 07:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@a_picazo disaster into catastrophe RT@MotherJones Hurricanes Threaten Gulf http://mojo.ly/czcx2v /already catastrophe,gonna need new words | May 27 07:29 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@elsacorral Palin family perfect creation of the time & culture. Fundamentally uncivilised, ignorant opportunists with no authentic values. | May 27 07:36 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Obama admin 'looks backward' to punish whistleblowers; won't do it to prosecute #Bush era crimes they exposed http://bit.ly/aZNh4N #SameOld | May 27 08:08 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] How can I make a gmail filter like - "If TO or CC field contain more then 10 email id, mark it as spam" #gmail #idea #spam | May 27 08:57 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @qu1j0t3] admin 'looks backward' to punish whistleblowers; won't do it to prosecute #Bush era crimes they exposed http://bit.ly/aZNh4N | May 27 08:57 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Over a week has passed since co-worker ordered an HTC Desire from O2 on 'next day' delivery. They failed at one simple thing.Selling a phone | May 27 09:12 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Inexpensive kindle cover? They all look alike online. Recommendations sought. | May 27 09:22 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] hml5 + canvas + audio = great demo http://9elements.com/io/projects/html5/canvas #html5 | May 27 10:38 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Yay! LUGMaster mailing list looks like it's about to decend into a flamewar about HTML vs txt email. Joy! | May 27 11:45 | |
| *schestowitz r4wrs back | May 27 12:00 | |
| schestowitz | I'm gonna post some 'dents | May 27 12:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] "Completely successfully defusing the situation with no bloodshed goes against everything we are there for." http://is.gd/cr8iD | May 27 12:17 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Third of MEDUSA4 CAD Users Run #GNU #Linux on the Desktop http://www.cadcamnews.in/2010/05/downloads-of-medusa4-personal-up-by-38.html | May 27 12:24 | |
| Techrights | Title: Downloads of MEDUSA4 Personal up by 38% for free 2D/3D CAD on Linux® and Windows® : CAD CAM News .::. Size~: 75.46 KB | May 27 12:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Better Than Just Linux http://www.inatux.com/article?r=why-gnu-linux-is-gnu-linux-and-just-linux | May 27 12:25 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ScaleMP : Only #Linux Supported, No #Windows http://ur1.ca/03tbv also new: http://ur1.ca/03tbw | May 27 12:27 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why #Windows Desktop Cannot be Taken Seriously, Unlike #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/03tco | May 27 12:30 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Computer Lab Built With #GNU #Linux http://nems360.com/view/full_story/7600319/copyright_policy | May 27 12:31 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Schools in #Finland Are Using #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/03tdt http://ur1.ca/03tdu | May 27 12:33 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Grows in Mobile PCs, More Desktop Computers Come with No Windows http://bit.ly/awOfh2 | May 27 12:35 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Amnesty International accuses U.S. and Europe of shielding Israel over Gaza war crimes. #occupation #Palestine http://is.gd/crj2T | May 27 12:42 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #GNU Linux Audiocasts: #Linux Basement, Software Freedom Law Show http://ur1.ca/03thm http://ur1.ca/03ad0 | May 27 12:57 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Peter Gerwinski speaking at SIGINT09 on software patents "Software-Patente. Nicht schon wieder!" http://ur1.ca/03tjm | May 27 13:05 | |
| Techrights | Title: SIGINT09_3257 Software-Patente. Nicht schon wieder! - Chaosradio Podcast Network .::. Size~: 21.29 KB | May 27 13:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Proprietary Middle Ground to be Offers by #Wine 1.2 for #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/03tju | May 27 13:06 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] SIGINT09: Software-Patente. Nicht schon wieder! EU-Kommission + United Patent Litigation System (UPLS) http://ur1.ca/03tk3 | May 27 13:06 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google 's Pseudo-Open Source Browser Now Treated With Parity on GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/03dez http://ur1.ca/03tk6 http://ur1.ca/03tk8 | May 27 13:07 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz I don't see any advantage of Chrome over Chromium. I have VP8 YouTube in Chromium now! | May 27 13:10 | |
| oiaohm | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/100937-Warner-Bros-Sued-for-Pirating-Anti-Piracy-Technology LOL schestowitz | May 27 13:11 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Killall -INT09 swpat: http://ur1.ca/03tlk | May 27 13:17 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at the #KDE Fork, KDE SC 4.5 Preview http://ur1.ca/03tn4 http://ur1.ca/03tn5 | May 27 13:24 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #GNOME Desktop 2.31.2 http://ur1.ca/03tnb http://ur1.ca/03tnc http://ur1.ca/03tnd | May 27 13:25 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Making One's Own #GNU #Linux Distribution, Exploring Lilliput http://ur1.ca/03tnj http://ur1.ca/03tnk | May 27 13:30 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mandriva #Linux 2010.1, Now in RC1, Boosted by Victories in Paris Descartes University's UFR Biomédicale http://ur1.ca/03tnr | May 27 13:31 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Early Reviews of #Fedora 13 Following Many Release Announcements http://ur1.ca/03cim http://ur1.ca/03to4 http://ur1.ca/03ojc | May 27 13:33 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Sets Reasonably Good Example for Free Software, #3PAR Added Support for It http://ur1.ca/03tnz http://ur1.ca/03to0 | May 27 13:34 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Fedora's Leader Paul Frields Speaks, #LinuxOutlaws Has #Fedora #Linux Special http://ur1.ca/03tod http://ur1.ca/03fuz | May 27 13:35 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Debian -based #SimplyMEPIS 8.5 Reviewed and Receives Rating of 4 out of 5 http://ur1.ca/03toh #mepis | May 27 13:35 | |
| Techrights | Title: Fedora's Paul Frields: Leadership, trust, fail early and often | opensource.com .::. Size~: 55.04 KB | May 27 13:35 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] It appears that Microsoft will have a speaker at LinuxCon 2010 | May 27 13:40 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #Ubuntu 's Unity Desktop, Ubuntu 10.04 http://ur1.ca/03trj http://ur1.ca/03trl http://ur1.ca/03trm | May 27 13:54 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Canonical 's Landscape 1.5 is Out (System Management) http://ur1.ca/03trz http://ur1.ca/03ts1 http://ur1.ca/03ts2 | May 27 13:56 | |
| Techrights | Title: Canonical updates Landscape manager • The Register .::. Size~: 33.64 KB | May 27 13:56 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #Linux Handhelds, Digital Signage Player http://ur1.ca/03tss http://ur1.ca/03tst http://ur1.ca/03tsv http://ur1.ca/03tsw | May 27 14:00 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux Takes Over #Apple / #HypePhone Turf http://ur1.ca/03tug http://ur1.ca/03tuh http://ur1.ca/03tui | May 27 14:07 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux in the Form of Android Moves to Devices Beyond Phones http://ur1.ca/03tut | May 27 14:07 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Android in cars too: http://earth2tech.com/2010/05/23/why-googles-android-could-rule-connected-cars/ | May 27 14:08 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Sub-notebooks: #GNU #Linux No Longer Needs Google's Distro http://ur1.ca/03tv5 http://ur1.ca/03tv6 | May 27 14:12 | |
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| oiaohm | Netbooks damage is already done. notebooks have been forced to drop in price. | May 27 14:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Ian Duncan-Smith *actually says* "arbeit macht frei": http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8707652.stm | May 27 14:26 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux Ready to Support Patents-Free Video http://www.workswithu.com/2010/05/25/html5-video-on-ubuntu/ | May 27 14:40 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] I see that Hank Janssen goes to many Linux conferences in his role for Microsoft, I wonder how well he is received? | May 27 14:50 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #BSD / #UNIX Still Thrive in Way, #PCBSD Can Run #Windows Applications http://ur1.ca/03u57 http://ur1.ca/03u5a | May 27 14:57 | |
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| lyle | have you guys tried out MeeGo yet? | May 27 15:08 |
| lyle | if not, you may discover some bad news when you do | May 27 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | Step 1: Make a proprietary weed eater that only you can support, that takes string of a nonstandard size. | May 27 15:11 |
| DaemonFC | Step 2: Sell the weed eater suspiciously cheap on QVC to unsuspecting women. | May 27 15:11 |
| MinceR | lyle: i haven't. what news? | May 27 15:11 |
| DaemonFC | Step 3: Sell string that's four times as expensive as you get for any other weed eater. | May 27 15:11 |
| lyle | if you look in MeeGo's /usr/bin, you'll find things like banshee-1, zypper, and mono | May 27 15:11 |
| MinceR | :( | May 27 15:12 |
| lyle | also, it seems there's a ton of gnome-* apps in there | May 27 15:12 |
| lyle | I thought MeeGo was based on Qt? | May 27 15:12 |
| MinceR | mono wasn't there in Maemo, was it? | May 27 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I just spent an hour re-stringing that spool with the closest standard string I could find | May 27 15:12 |
| lyle | I have no idea, I never sued Maemo | May 27 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | I need to figure out a way to sneak into my mom's house and block QVC before there's no room to walk in there | May 27 15:13 |
| MinceR | gtk/gnome itself might be a leftover from maemo | May 27 15:13 |
| MinceR | old apps might keep using them | May 27 15:13 |
| lyle | I can't find any Qt apps | May 27 15:13 |
| lyle | they are all gnome | May 27 15:13 |
| lyle | gnome-calculator, gnome-panel, gnome-control-center | May 27 15:14 |
| lyle | evolution, evince | May 27 15:14 |
| lyle | gnome-terminal, gnome-screensaver, etc | May 27 15:14 |
| lyle | what is more concerning is that it comes bundled with gmcs | May 27 15:15 |
| lyle | but not gcc | May 27 15:15 |
| lyle | so you can create mono apps on meego by default | May 27 15:16 |
| lyle | but not c or c++ | May 27 15:16 |
| lyle | fucking mono boosters | May 27 15:17 |
| lyle | contaminating yet another distro with their poison | May 27 15:18 |
| MinceR | indeed | May 27 15:18 |
| lyle | how do they manage to keep doing this? | May 27 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not mowing today, but I need to get those weeds down before they develop communication skills | May 27 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 27 15:18 |
| MinceR | m$ still reaches far | May 27 15:19 |
| MinceR | and there are many naive people | May 27 15:19 |
| MinceR | many people don't realize that they can't ignore legal issues in IT anymore | May 27 15:19 |
| MinceR | because those issues will affect them anyway | May 27 15:19 |
| lyle | how are linux developers this naive? | May 27 15:19 |
| lyle | linux => meego | May 27 15:19 |
| MinceR | also, some big companies serve m$ | May 27 15:20 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure where nokia and intel stands | May 27 15:20 |
| lyle | they apparently stand with mono | May 27 15:20 |
| MinceR | but others too may have a hand in it | May 27 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | Mono started years before Novell bought Ximian | May 27 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | really the time to be afraid was back in 2001 when Miguel de Icaza was all over Slashdot masturbating over bringing .Net to Linux | May 27 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | and how it was better than anything that's ever ran on Linux | May 27 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | and was going to be fully compatible | May 27 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | and more secure than JAVA | May 27 15:22 |
| lyle | I didn't even use linux back then :( | May 27 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | it really shows you that FSF was unable to reign GNOME in then | May 27 15:22 |
| lyle | never heard of it at the time | May 27 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | and they only have symbolic influence on it now | May 27 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | the FSF was worried about QT toolkit being nonfree and KDE being made with QT | May 27 15:24 |
| lyle | it just seems like they are winning | May 27 15:24 |
| lyle | they keep getting their way | May 27 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | so they started GNOME and inadvertantly gave rise to a Windows emulator platform | May 27 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | they never should have started GNOME | May 27 15:24 |
| lyle | yea | May 27 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | most of the original GNOME developers made their intentions of mimicking Windows very clear, from the start | May 27 15:25 |
| lyle | and they even gave that icaza guy a medal for it | May 27 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | red flag all over | May 27 15:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Digital Economy Bill Not Reversed, BCS EGM Blamed for It, ACTA Harms UK http://ur1.ca/03uar http://ur1.ca/03uas http://ur1.ca/03uat | May 27 15:25 | |
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| MinceR | strange then that Gnome went from copying KDE to copying MacOS, never copying winblows | May 27 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | RMS once said that the FSF getting a Linus Torvalds award would be like the rebel fleet getting the Han Solo award | May 27 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | then RMS went on to prop up the Darth Vader of FOSS | May 27 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | if you take that analogy further (Miguel de Icaza) | May 27 15:27 |
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| MinceR | are you saying that Miguel brought balance to the Source? :> | May 27 15:27 |
| lyle | lol | May 27 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | no, I'm saying if you only knew the power of the Sharp side | May 27 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | May 27 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | (Banshee even!) | May 27 15:28 |
| MinceR | i didn't know Sharp was involved.... oh, that sharp | May 27 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | C Sharp | May 27 15:28 |
| MinceR | the $oft side | May 27 15:28 |
| lyle | I need to get going in a minute | May 27 15:29 |
| lyle | this is so frustrating | May 27 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | that damned battery pack needs to hurry up and charge | May 27 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | I have some weeds to kill | May 27 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 27 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | landlord has been all over my about it | May 27 15:30 |
| lyle | I'm sitting out in the parking lot leeching wireless from some schmuck | May 27 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | good news is that I'm charging all the lawn supplies to my rent | May 27 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 27 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | so far I'm crediting $20 to it this week | May 27 15:31 |
| lyle | schestowitz, do you think MeeGo would listen if you warned them about the dangers of Mono? | May 27 15:32 |
| lyle | maybe they have not seen this site | May 27 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | I watched Public Enemies blu ray last night | May 27 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | it was alright | May 27 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | I can't say that Johnny Depp made a convincing John Dillinger | May 27 15:33 |
| lyle | I'm waiting for VP8 dvds before I buy them and support MPEG-LA | May 27 15:34 |
| lyle | well, not dvds, but whatever replaces blu-ray using VP8 | May 27 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | you might as well wait for zero calorie chocolate and alcohol that's hangover free | May 27 15:34 |
| lyle | not giving MPEG-LA any more money than I have to | May 27 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | both of those will happen first | May 27 15:34 |
| lyle | then you are helping MPEG-LA win | May 27 15:35 |
| lyle | helping them take away our freedoms | May 27 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | the industry takes existing work, pretends like they invented it, make something strongly based on it, then send out a contingent of lawyers and lobbyists to get it patented | May 27 15:36 |
| DaemonFC | that's how they work | May 27 15:36 |
| DaemonFC | the reason h.264 and VP8 are "so similar" is because they'er made to do the same thing | May 27 15:36 |
| DaemonFC | and maybe that means tripping over a lot of MPEG Cartel patents | May 27 15:36 |
| lyle | if you want to help these businesses take away our freedoms, why are you here? | May 27 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | the way the system works is to keep everything single-source and mediocre | May 27 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | which is the direct opposite of the reasons given for patents to begin with | May 27 15:38 |
| lyle | right, so why do you keep helping them? | May 27 15:39 |
| lyle | if you keep buying their stuff, it only makes them more powerful | May 27 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of the advantages that AAC has over MP3 were based on stolen research from academia | May 27 15:39 |
| lyle | they wouldn't have this much power if people didn't buy their stuff | May 27 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | they have as much right to use it as Xiph.org does | May 27 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | but the system lets them horde it all | May 27 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | hell, MP3 was largely stolen from taxpayer-funded research | May 27 15:39 |
| lyle | the system lets them do that because they line politician's pockets | May 27 15:40 |
| lyle | with the money YOU give them | May 27 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | most of the concepts that it was based on originated throughout the 20th century | May 27 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | and a few went back into the 19th century even | May 27 15:40 |
| lyle | that's why we all have to stop giving them any more money than we absolutely have to | May 27 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | I mainly rent DVDs and Blu Ray Discs anyway | May 27 15:41 |
| lyle | renting them still helps them | May 27 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | the price to buy them means they sold a license to something you're going to pull out and watch once a year | May 27 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | when you rent one, that same disc wil lget rented to a hundred other people or more | May 27 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | then sold as a used disc | May 27 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 27 15:42 |
| lyle | it doesn't matter, it still helps them | May 27 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, they charge more for rental discs | May 27 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | I think the going rate is about $80 | May 27 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | but if hundreds of people watch the same copy then someone buys it used... | May 27 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | it's better than hundreds of people buying their own disc | May 27 15:43 |
| lyle | I'm done arguing | May 27 15:43 |
| lyle | gotta get to class anyway | May 27 15:44 |
| DaemonFC | the last time I saw figures, I think Netflix was making about $1.50 off their 1 disc at a time + unlimited streaming plan | May 27 15:44 |
| DaemonFC | it's all about volume | May 27 15:44 |
| lyle | bye | May 27 15:44 |
| DaemonFC | but most of the subscription fee is postage, them buying new discs, other overhead | May 27 15:44 |
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| DaemonFC | ahhh, bfn | May 27 15:44 |
| schestowitz | Hey | May 27 15:47 |
| schestowitz | This is annoying | May 27 15:47 |
| schestowitz | More Microsoft intrusions | May 27 15:47 |
| schestowitz | backstabbers sent in again | May 27 15:47 |
| DaemonFC | Blu Ray will be an ideal format to rip to VP8 | May 27 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder when AnyDVD will support VP8 | May 27 15:48 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Inherent Role of #GNU #Linux in SaaS Stacks http://ur1.ca/03ufl http://ur1.ca/03ufn | May 27 15:49 | |
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| DaemonFC | Software As A Service really only works for large companies that bulk license anyway | May 27 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | individuals tend to be disgusted by it | May 27 15:50 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Servers Running #GNU #Linux : New Examples, Successes http://ur1.ca/03ufk http://ur1.ca/03ufm http://ur1.ca/03ufo http://ur1.ca/03ufp | May 27 15:52 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Do news stories about the latest in a long line of paedophile Priests count as "religious programming"? http://tinyurl.com/2w2oz4m | May 27 15:54 | |
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| DaemonFC | I love *67 | May 27 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | "Huntington's Renaissance Faire depicts life in 1585" | May 27 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | pretty much the same as now, without the Walmart? | May 27 16:04 |
| schestowitz | 67? | May 27 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Twitter is b0rked ATM | May 27 16:10 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Anti-Linux Company (Microsoft) is ‘Infiltrating’ LinuxTag and LinuxCon http://ur1.ca/03ulr typical Microsoft, admits "Infiltration" | May 27 16:19 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Morning folks! Back after three days off. How are things with you all? | May 27 16:23 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Apple Surpasses Microsoft? So What? http://ur1.ca/03urs The copycat/copyright marketing machine known as “Apple” need not be commended | May 27 16:51 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Question... | May 27 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | Nickel Cadmium battery is weak but won't charge after I just finished weed trimming the front yard | May 27 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | what should I do? | May 27 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | (it's my mom's trimmer, so I know she probably did everything the owners manual said not to after unloading three hundred dollars or something on it) | May 27 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 27 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | I don't really want to nuke the entire yard with poison for obvious reasons | May 27 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | in other news, I checked my gas gauge and I've only used about 2 gallons this entire month | May 27 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | that ebike might pay me back yet | May 27 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: My bike runs Linux is that helps :P | May 27 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | *if | May 27 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | I decided to put a GPS system on it that doubles as a speedometer and battery gauge | May 27 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | it's a conspicuous waste of money, but why not? :) | May 27 17:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why #OpenSUSE Should Pay Attention to #Novell ’s Prospective Acquirers http://ur1.ca/03uwy better off forking it? | May 27 17:10 | |
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| DaemonFC | hooked in through my cell phone though, so I saved some money there | May 27 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | I have the voice recognition set up to respond when I say "computer" though | May 27 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 27 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | I amuse myself | May 27 17:11 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/27/new.york.islam.ads/ | May 27 17:20 |
| Techrights | Title: Ads on NYC buses target those wanting to leave Islam - CNN.com .::. Size~: 41.58 KB | May 27 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | jono: Have you ever tried not being Muslim? | May 27 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | it's terrific | May 27 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | mmmk? | May 27 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 27 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to start a pool to see if anyone can guess where these are coming from | May 27 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | Coming to your beliefs is your own unique and irrevocable human right.* (*As long as you unquestionably believe everything I tell you) | May 27 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | Disclaimers are a bitch | May 27 17:23 |
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| DaemonFC | hmm, I did finally figure out that evil Chinese puzzle that was the proprietary string system | May 27 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | what a racket | May 27 17:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell : The Copy of a Copy http://techrights.org/2010/05/27/copycat-of-copycat/ #mono | May 27 17:51 | |
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| DaemonFC | they want $10 for 20 feet, I got 40 feet for $4 | May 27 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | "For your safety and convenience, please pay us four times as much money for our string." | May 27 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | bullshit | May 27 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 27 17:52 |
| MinceR | "razor and blade" business model | May 27 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | You refer to the cheap razor that only takes their hellaciously expensive blades? | May 27 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | yep | May 27 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | disposable actually costs less | May 27 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | a little less that is | May 27 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | if you bother to look | May 27 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: My other favorite is "Throw it out when this little blue strip turns white" | May 27 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | My ass! | May 27 17:54 |
| MinceR | and printers with overpriced ink/toner | May 27 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | I'll throw it away when it's worn out is what I'll do | May 27 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | the little blue strip is designed to make you throw out a razor that's still got half its useful life left | May 27 17:55 |
| MinceR | you'll throw your ass away when it's worn out? | May 27 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | uhhhm, it was an expression of disgust | May 27 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | How does that translate into Hungarian? | May 27 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 27 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | as in "$200 for a tire? My ass!" | May 27 17:56 |
| MinceR | not sure | May 27 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | "Go back to the drawing board professor!" | May 27 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | "Come back with something reasonable" | May 27 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 27 17:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @lxoliva Microsoft and Novell shared a closing session at Latinoware coupla years ago. No questions from the audience permitted. | May 27 17:57 | |
| DaemonFC | "Why does Microsoft have their **** up your....." | May 27 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | No Comment! | May 27 17:58 |
| schestowitz | [17:20] <Techrights> Title: Ads on NYC buses target those wanting to leave Islam - CNN.com .::. Size~: 41.58 KB | May 27 17:58 |
| schestowitz | :D | May 27 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Faustian deals | May 27 17:58 |
| schestowitz | Why not "religion"? | May 27 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | ftw | May 27 17:58 |
| schestowitz | The "apostasy bus" | May 27 17:59 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, yes... we need to support people who enter this thing called... "Reality" | May 27 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: How is it that in a publicly traded company, a few individuals in management are able to unilaterally run the company into the ground and get out with all the money before it tanks, leaving other people to take a bath? | May 27 18:00 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I just spent hours writing | May 27 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | fair question right? | May 27 18:00 |
| schestowitz | One more.... | May 27 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Ronnie Hovvie got like $6 million in bonuses per annum | May 27 18:00 |
| schestowitz | He made enough to secure his grandkids' future too | May 27 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Never mind those 230 opensuse devs he fired 1.5 years ago | May 27 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | I would have sold all my stock right after the Microsoft deal if I had any Novell stock | May 27 18:01 |
| schestowitz | He grabbed their wage | May 27 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | sell it now while it's got the temporary bump | May 27 18:01 |
| schestowitz | To buy a present for himself | May 27 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | cause it's a long way down | May 27 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 27 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, he's not interested in a healthy future for Novell or Suse | May 27 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | just how much money he can horde before Novell tanks | May 27 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Not unique to him.. | May 27 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | businesses fail once they have a CEO like that | May 27 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | it's only a matter of time | May 27 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Most CEOs are like that... bankers too | May 27 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Gordon Gecko | May 27 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 27 18:02 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: did you try kde 4.4? | May 27 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | nope | May 27 18:03 |
| schestowitz | in kwin, it has that whole 'snap' thing | May 27 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Weird... | May 27 18:03 |
| schestowitz | But it's handy | May 27 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | oh wait, I think I did | May 27 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Grab to top is 'full screen' | May 27 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | but it was in beta | May 27 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I noticed the snap | May 27 18:03 |
| MinceR | does plasma-desktop have that whole 'reliable' thing in 4.4? | May 27 18:03 |
| schestowitz | I use fade between desktops now | May 27 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Rotataion is too slow | May 27 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, KDE is behaving like Windows 7 now | May 27 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | in some ways | May 27 18:04 |
| schestowitz | I maxed up all the effects | May 27 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | the few ways where Windows 7 window management makes sense | May 27 18:04 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: no | May 27 18:04 |
| schestowitz | It does more | May 27 18:04 |
| schestowitz | Then it has a tiny subset which gives the Microsoft crumbs | May 27 18:04 |
| schestowitz | Same with all UI aspects | May 27 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I still don't like Windows 7's GUI in many ways | May 27 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | it has me wanting Windows XP back | May 27 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | the mandatory new start menu and taskbar are the worst of it | May 27 18:05 |
| schestowitz | It does more, _including_ Mac OS X-style menus, WIndows-style kicker if you need one (slab/others) | May 27 18:05 |
| schestowitz | Big icons | May 27 18:05 |
| schestowitz | More Fisher PRicey | May 27 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | I felt like the Classic taskbar and Classic start menus were faster to navigate | May 27 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | now it shoves things I had open earlier in my way on the assumption that's what I'm grabbing for now | May 27 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | it's all very confusing | May 27 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | I happen to think the fewer the redundant menu entries the better | May 27 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | KDE's got the same problem | May 27 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | especially when there's many programs installed | May 27 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | and menus should be static-ish | May 27 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | they shouldn't shuffle themselves based on when you used what program | May 27 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | Start/Programs/Program Menu Entry/Program vs. Start/bunch of crap I don't want to use right now/All Programs/Have to click to open a tree instead of mousing over an auto-expanding menu entry/click on the program finally | May 27 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | it's one of those death by a thousand papercuts annoyances | May 27 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | add an extra 2 seconds to open every program or document adds up | May 27 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | over an hour, you've wasted an additional minute or two just trying to open programs | May 27 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | over an eight hour day, you've wasted an additional quarter of an hour | May 27 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | and that's before you take on the other crap they've done to you like Libraries | May 27 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | if a company is paying four workers to use a computer for 8 hours a day, then every day their employees waste an entire man hour because of the Windows 7 Start Menu | May 27 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | if the company has them working a 5 day week, that's 5 hours that Windows 7 has cost them with just the start menu | May 27 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | 260 hours a year | May 27 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | maybe these four people are making $15 an hour | May 27 18:13 |
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| DaemonFC | Windows 7 costs a company $3,900 a year in lost payroll with it's start menu | May 27 18:13 |
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| DaemonFC | if there are only 4 employees making $15 an hour :) | May 27 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | and KDE has the same problem | May 27 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME is much faster to navigate | May 27 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME has far fewer annoying quirks | May 27 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | at the expense of some bling | May 27 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | unless you count OpenSuse GNOME which makes no sense at all | May 27 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | in fact, OpenSuse GNOME is the worst GNOME desktop there is | May 27 18:15 |
| MinceR | protip: you can still use the old kicker menu | May 27 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | it looks like they fed GNOME a diet of pure lard | May 27 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: That didn't feel right either | May 27 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | it crams shit in there all wrong | May 27 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | if I was designing a GUI, it wouldn't work like GNOME or KDE | May 27 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | but it would be much closer to GNOME | May 27 18:16 |
| *MinceR makes a mental note not to hire DaemonFC for GUI design | May 27 18:16 | |
| DaemonFC | well, remember Linus Torvalds had some concerns with both desktops too | May 27 18:17 |
| MinceR | so do i | May 27 18:17 |
| MinceR | but i certainly wouldn't go the gnome way | May 27 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | and when someone asked why he didn't design his own, he said because nobody but him would like what the result would be | May 27 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | nobody but me would like the GUI I designed for myself | May 27 18:17 |
| MinceR | "copy MacOS" is not a viable way to design GUIs | May 27 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | I think that's the point of a HIG | May 27 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | I think that's what Microsoft was going for in Windows 7, more consistency | May 27 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | and they got it | May 27 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | now more of it works incorrectly | May 27 18:18 |
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| DaemonFC | :D | May 27 18:18 |
| schestowitz | "a friend of mine was asked to remove a picture of me in his slides at an MSFT conference." http://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/14846972959 | May 27 18:19 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: Using a badly designed GUI is like driving a car that's out of alignment and drifts off to the side | May 27 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | sure you can compensate for it somewhat | May 27 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | but it's still broken and needs fixed | May 27 18:20 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: MacOS and Gnome is like driving a car that doesn't have a steering wheel | May 27 18:20 |
| MinceR | MacOS is like driving a car that doesn't have a steering wheel or any pedals | May 27 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | Patching the shell is usually what I've done to correct something I hated on Windows | May 27 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | but that's not working out so well on 7 | May 27 18:21 |
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| MinceR | this time the patching starts with cfdisk :> | May 27 18:24 |
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| DaemonFC | I wish that battery would charge faster | May 27 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | I have a date with some stinging nettles | May 27 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 27 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | hmmmm | May 27 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | every place in this user manual where it means to say "quite" it says "quit" | May 27 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | that idiot next door is lucky I'm restraining myself | May 27 18:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How LAMP (Linux, GNU, Apache, MySQL, and Perl/PHP/Python) is being bent by those who want to insert proprietary http://ur1.ca/03vdm | May 27 18:29 | |
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| DaemonFC | I am tempted to assault him with my weed whacker :P | May 27 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | fucker poisoned a stinging nettle patch 3 weeks ago and the grass is just now starting to grow back | May 27 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | I asked hom why he didn't just salt it so nothing would ever grow again | May 27 18:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux in Hosting: Expansion, New Distros http://ur1.ca/03vdy http://ur1.ca/03ve0 http://ur1.ca/03ve2 | May 27 18:30 | |
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| DaemonFC | *him | May 27 18:30 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #LinuxCon 2010 is Being Organised; Kernel Space Reviewed http://ur1.ca/03ver http://ur1.ca/03ves http://ur1.ca/03vet http://ur1.ca/03vev | May 27 18:32 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #CUDA for #Linux #Graphics Stack: An Introduction http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7791 | May 27 18:33 | |
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| DaemonFC | I wish I could plug the weed eater into one of my bicycle batteries | May 27 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | that would keep it going for a while | May 27 18:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Applications That Change the World http://ur1.ca/03iaj http://ur1.ca/03vi0 | May 27 18:46 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Spirit #Jailbreak Ported to #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/03vi1 http://ur1.ca/03vi2 http://ur1.ca/03vi3 | May 27 18:46 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Reflecting Pool [pic] http://ff.im/l1kMM | May 27 18:48 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Another day has ended [pic] http://ff.im/l1kMU | May 27 18:48 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Alexandre Oliva Explains Why the Patent Troll Larry Horn ( #MPEG Cartel) is Bluffing http://ur1.ca/03vje #swpats #theora #vp8 #fud | May 27 18:51 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Unmanned Aerial Vehicles/Helicopters Run #Linux , Robots Do Too http://ur1.ca/03vjk http://ur1.ca/03vjm | May 27 18:53 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More Major #Games Come to #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/03vjj http://ur1.ca/03vjl http://ur1.ca/03vjn | May 27 18:54 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nokia 's Newer #GNU #Linux ( #MeeGo ) 1.0 Released http://ur1.ca/03vmq http://ur1.ca/03vmr | May 27 19:10 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nokia 's #Linux Used for Research http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/blog-post/1650122/researchers-track-eyeballs | May 27 19:18 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nokia 's #Linux - reviews http://ur1.ca/03vmw http://ur1.ca/03vmy http://ur1.ca/03vmz | May 27 19:18 | |
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| DaemonFC | "The nature of patents is such that, unless you can show all technology you use is at least 20 years old, you may find yourself at the wrong end of a patent lawsuit." | May 27 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | ick | May 27 19:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Dell 's New #Tablet Runs Just #Linux http://ur1.ca/03vq9 http://ur1.ca/03vqc http://ur1.ca/03vqf http://ur1.ca/03vqh | May 27 19:26 | |
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| MinceR | ick is the INTERCAL compiler | May 27 19:26 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: Congratulations on the new law btw | May 27 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | if I learn Hungarian and cook a family tree up, I can claim citizenship? | May 27 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | it's still more than the liberals demand of all the damned Mexicans here though :P | May 27 19:28 |
| MinceR | dunno | May 27 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | an immigration law here drawn out by liberals has two stipulations | May 27 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | 1. You just fell off the banana boat. | May 27 19:29 |
| MinceR | they haven't even fucked up our constitution, which is afaik necessary for that to work | May 27 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | 2. You don't know English, aren't looking for work, and will drain the welfare system. | May 27 19:29 |
| MinceR | but it will certainly cause a ton of trouble | May 27 19:29 |
| MinceR | including losing all the no-visa agreements | May 27 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | I know 2 is three things in itself, but they're closely related | May 27 19:30 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] In the new Evolution if I mark a message as Important it jumps it to the other important ones, any idea how I disable this jumping? | May 27 19:30 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ...also, it didn't used to do this in the old Evolution. | May 27 19:30 | |
| yasosh | hello, | May 27 19:30 |
| MinceR | and it will revolutionarize cheating on elections | May 27 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: So you're thinking this is an unconstitutional law | May 27 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | and it may get bitch slapped in your court system? | May 27 19:30 |
| yasosh | I have a patent selling rights | May 27 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | those are the best :D | May 27 19:30 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: they're planning to change the constitution anyway | May 27 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Is that easy for them to do? | May 27 19:31 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: they drooling idiots that make up most of the voters in this country gave them enough of a majority to do anything | May 27 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, with just the 2/3rds majority? | May 27 19:31 |
| MinceR | yes | May 27 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | damn | May 27 19:31 |
| yasosh | if I want to work with a patent seller company, what is the % ? commission the company will take? | May 27 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | that only gets half the job done here | May 27 19:31 |
| MinceR | some laws require a 4/5ths majority, but that requirement can be changed with a 2/3rds majority | May 27 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | 38 states would need to ratify it to | May 27 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | or no deal | May 27 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | then the President has to sign it | May 27 19:32 |
| yasosh | no one reply me? | May 27 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | technically, he doesn't have to sign it, because a 2/3rds majority could overrule him on that step | May 27 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | but I doubt it would ever happen that way :) | May 27 19:32 |
| MinceR | yasosh: i don't know the answer | May 27 19:32 |
| yasosh | what is the % commission? | May 27 19:33 |
| yasosh | the company will get from me? | May 27 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | yasosh: It depends | May 27 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | there's TV commercials all the time | May 27 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | probably half | May 27 19:33 |
| yasosh | i sell a technology | May 27 19:33 |
| yasosh | know how | May 27 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | those patent law firms are scalpers | May 27 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | they're basically high rent merceneries for the lone inventor :P | May 27 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | * mercenaries even | May 27 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | it's really difficult to actually "invent" anything on your own, and if you manage, then the patent law firms will suck all the profit out of it for you anyway | May 27 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 27 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | big companies with lots of patents tend to have those lawyers on retainment | May 27 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | you may be better off just selling the patent to one of them | May 27 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | May 27 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | going to war with the lawn again :P | May 27 19:36 |
| yasosh | i ve found some guys in the US, they want half, and 5 year rights in USA, it s too much, they have to pay some to me | May 27 19:36 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Lawyers Love Software Patents, Developers Do Not http://techrights.org/2010/05/27/the-worship-of-swpats/ #swpats | May 27 19:38 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Grows in #Africa http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=CBC3C516-1A64-6A71-CEF84F1FA8FFF346 | May 27 19:38 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Free and Open Source Foundation for #Africa Makes Awards http://allafrica.com/stories/201005240781.html | May 27 19:38 | |
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| yasosh | thank you guys, I appreciate you all! | May 27 19:39 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] FOSS Yellow Pages Created http://www.efytimes.com/e1/fullnews.asp?edid=45815 | May 27 19:43 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why #OSI Still Complements the Free Software Foundation http://www.computerworlduk.com/community/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=2977 | May 27 19:43 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Obama ripped the BP CEO a new one in the news conference he just had. Niiiiice. | May 27 19:57 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Is anyone using upstream Evolution 2.30 and having issues seeing the cursor when composing a message? I filed http://is.gd/crSUX | May 27 19:59 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] reading about Zeitgeist Movement - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist_movement I liked it. thinking for seriously. | May 27 19:59 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Do we have any book like 'Technology of nation' in similar lines of 'wealth of nation' | May 27 20:00 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] An ex-facebooker is probably about as annoying about facebook as an ex-smoker is about smoking. I know I am. | May 27 20:03 | |
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| scientes | fedora's jigdo is super-poor | May 27 20:04 |
| scientes | for each file there is 2 http requests _and_ a DNS lookup | May 27 20:04 |
| scientes | while with debian's .jigdo there is just one http request on an existing connection | May 27 20:04 |
| MinceR | doesn't seem to be super-poor to me. suboptimal, but not super-poor :> | May 27 20:04 |
| scientes | well it takes twice the time | May 27 20:05 |
| scientes | you have to manually edit the file to fix the problem | May 27 20:05 |
| MinceR | shouldn't take significantly more time than debian's | May 27 20:05 |
| scientes | yes much longer | May 27 20:05 |
| scientes | the files are ofter a few K | May 27 20:05 |
| MinceR | after all the majority of the time will still be spent downloading useful data | May 27 20:05 |
| MinceR | oh. | May 27 20:05 |
| scientes | and dns lookups take alot of time | May 27 20:05 |
| scientes | little packages | May 27 20:05 |
| MinceR | ic | May 27 20:05 |
| MinceR | a dns cache can help, but i see how it's a problem then | May 27 20:05 |
| scientes | like foobar--tool.rpm | May 27 20:05 |
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| scientes | its a repolist | May 27 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | it died again | May 27 20:06 |
| scientes | and there are gazillions of repos listed | May 27 20:06 |
| scientes | and each time it gets a 302 found | May 27 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | looks like it's going to take a 3rd charge to finish weed trimming | May 27 20:06 |
| scientes | cause thats how its done | May 27 20:06 |
| scientes | soo 2 http tcp handshakes, and a dns request, vs http request on existing connection | May 27 20:07 |
| scientes | huge difference | May 27 20:07 |
| scientes | when there is 4000 files | May 27 20:07 |
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| cubezzz | what is jigdo? | May 27 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | some kind of distributed FTP system I think, cubezzz | May 27 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | so as to not overburden one mirror | May 27 20:22 |
| narendra | cubezzz, Torrent like downloader, | May 27 20:22 |
| cubezzz | ah | May 27 20:23 |
| narendra | cubezzz, I think fedora use it | May 27 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | no, it's not like torrents | May 27 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | it just cuts the download into pieces and gets each piece from a different FTP | May 27 20:23 |
| narendra | DaemonFC, Ohh then sorry, | May 27 20:23 |
| cubezzz | I like rtorrent | May 27 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | narendra: It's like a load balancing system | May 27 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | so they don't abuse their mirrors | May 27 20:23 |
| cubezzz | I backported it to FC1 a few days ago | May 27 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Why FC1? | May 27 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | you miss the other 12 versions since then? | May 27 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | Those 7 years just fly right past | May 27 20:24 |
| cubezzz | no, I use those too | May 27 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 27 20:24 |
| cubezzz | F10, F11, and F12 which was kind of crappy | May 27 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | I agree that newest isn't always best | May 27 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | there's people that stay a release or two behind all the time jsut because it's less buggy at that point | May 27 20:25 |
| cubezzz | I support a lot of old stuff | May 27 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | they used to have Fedora Legacy | May 27 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | I got a lot of use out of Red Hat Linux 9 | May 27 20:25 |
| cubezzz | Fedora Legacy is dead though | May 27 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | yes | May 27 20:25 |
| cubezzz | I do my own support | May 27 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | they supported Red Hat 9 until like 2006 I think | May 27 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat abandoned it just after they released it :D | May 27 20:26 |
| cubezzz | my 100% foss box will probably be Fedora 10 | May 27 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | meh, I need ATI drivers that aren't slow | May 27 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | other than that, Fedora 13 is fine | May 27 20:27 |
| cubezzz | let me put it this way... | May 27 20:27 |
| cubezzz | for this project, I would have gone text only if necessary | May 27 20:28 |
| cubezzz | so going back to Radeon 7000 is no big deal | May 27 20:28 |
| cubezzz | I'm still considering Amiga 1200 too | May 27 20:29 |
| cubezzz | I need a motherboard that is completely understood | May 27 20:30 |
| cubezzz | for this project to work | May 27 20:30 |
| MinceR | http://strangehorizons.com/2000/20001120/secret_number.shtml | May 27 20:30 |
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| cubezzz | Igor Teper... | May 27 20:35 |
| cubezzz | hmmm | May 27 20:35 |
| cubezzz | probably some student that worked too hard :) | May 27 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: I got drunk last night, then while I was drunk, I remembered that I take blood pressure pills | May 27 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | that was not a great experience | May 27 20:39 |
| cubezzz | if you have high blood pressure, it's probably better to not drink | May 27 20:39 |
| cubezzz | humans don't need alcohol | May 27 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | the medication forces your blood vessels open | May 27 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | so your body already has trouble adjusting it at that point | May 27 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 27 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes I almost black out just from standing up too fast | May 27 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | never happened before I went on the pills | May 27 20:41 |
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| cubezzz | you know it would be nice to have 320x200 mode again | May 27 21:05 |
| cubezzz | you would think you would never want that but... some dos games use it | May 27 21:05 |
| cubezzz | can LCD's do 320x200? | May 27 21:08 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: btw i'm surprised that almost everyone (including the parties that were supposed to be a reasonable opposition) voted for that stupid law | May 27 21:08 |
| MinceR | says a lot about this country though | May 27 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: That would be like the US passing a law declaring all persons who were the great great grandchildren of American immigrants to Canada could be citizens | May 27 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | it just makes no sense | May 27 21:10 |
| MinceR | it's not only that, it's pointless and dangerous | May 27 21:11 |
| MinceR | and it wasn't properly discussed | May 27 21:11 |
| MinceR | it was just rushed through | May 27 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It could be prelude to war I suppose | May 27 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | *cough* Sudetenland | May 27 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 27 21:12 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if the situation is so aggravated | May 27 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | you have any Hitler types surfacing there? | May 27 21:12 |
| MinceR | after all, both hungary and slovakia are members of EU | May 27 21:12 |
| MinceR | hard to say | May 27 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | any calls to annex your former territory? :D | May 27 21:12 |
| MinceR | there are such calls | May 27 21:13 |
| MinceR | what happened in Sudetenland? | May 27 21:13 |
| MinceR | oh, not only of the EU but also of the NATO | May 27 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | Hitler "liberated" the ethnic Germans | May 27 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | notice that it wasn't an "invasion"? | May 27 21:13 |
| MinceR | where "liberated" means...? | May 27 21:13 |
| MinceR | oh, invasion | May 27 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | liberation sounds so much better :) | May 27 21:13 |
| MinceR | yes, they like that word here too | May 27 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | we didn't invade Iraq | May 27 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | we "liberated" them | May 27 21:14 |
| MinceR | for example when the russians invaded us and so control over the country passed from the germans to the russians, some of the idiots here call that "liberation" | May 27 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | you turn it to MSNBC, it was an invasion | May 27 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | you turn it to FOX, it's the "liberation" | May 27 21:14 |
| cubezzz | uh, I don't think Mincer watches either :) | May 27 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | I suppose MSNBC is probably the least corrupt of the cable news channels | May 27 21:14 |
| MinceR | being handed from one master to another is "liberation", don't you know | May 27 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | if one can split hairs here | May 27 21:15 |
| MinceR | especially if their flags are both red, but with different objects on them | May 27 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: I do see where the hatred of Americans comes from | May 27 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | FOX News via satellite | May 27 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | god what an embarassment | May 27 21:15 |
| MinceR | not just fox news, actually | May 27 21:15 |
| MinceR | Jesusland has a serious attitude problem | May 27 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | not everyone | May 27 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | you generalize | May 27 21:16 |
| MinceR | and it's not limited to republicans | May 27 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | All Hungarians are fucktards, that law is proof | May 27 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | even you, because you live there | May 27 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 27 21:16 |
| cubezzz | well I actually watch American news sometimes | May 27 21:16 |
| MinceR | it's enough if it applies to the majority or even a vocal minority, it influences perception | May 27 21:16 |
| cubezzz | usually from Buffalo | May 27 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes half + 1 is all the idiots it takes | May 27 21:17 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i didn't say all Jesuslandians have an attitude problem | May 27 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes way less than that | May 27 21:17 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i meant the sovereign state -- and through that, whoever is in control of it | May 27 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | I fail to see how our idiot to non-idiot ratio compares unfavorably with the rest of the world average | May 27 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 27 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | power, money, ands of a few people | May 27 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | it's all you need MinceR | May 27 21:18 |
| MinceR | not sure about that | May 27 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | *hands | May 27 21:18 |
| MinceR | the USA is pretty good at convincing people outside ("Unamericans", see Uncyclopedia) that they're the stupidest people in the world | May 27 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: How did the evil bastards get a two thirds majority over there? | May 27 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | lots of idiots who elected them | May 27 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | I think it works the same about everywhere | May 27 21:18 |
| MinceR | in part due to our broken election system (much less broken than the usian or most european ones, but still pretty broken) | May 27 21:19 |
| MinceR | in large part due to the previous governing party being stupid | May 27 21:19 |
| MinceR | in large part due to the stupid masses being receptive to the populism of the new governing party | May 27 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | so the last guys fucked up real bad and it made the guys who would only fuck you over bad look good? | May 27 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 27 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | I love democracy | May 27 21:19 |
| MinceR | in part due to the masses in general believing that only the two big parties are worth voting for | May 27 21:19 |
| MinceR | in part due to all our politicians being assholes | May 27 21:19 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: exactly | May 27 21:20 |
| MinceR | a near-50% ratio of voters turned into over 2/3 due to brokenness in the election system | May 27 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | twisted logic, weird voting system, the two party system (If I don't vote for X, it's like a vote for Y) | May 27 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | number of things | May 27 21:21 |
| MinceR | also, note that most of the people in the two big parties come from the party state | May 27 21:21 |
| MinceR | so we've got a lot of the bastards who supported the dictatorship before | May 27 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | communist dictatorship? | May 27 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | or post-communist wannabe dictatorship? | May 27 21:21 |
| MinceR | actually the system itself is not two party, at least not on the list method of election, but people fail to realize this | May 27 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 27 21:21 |
| MinceR | well, a dictatorship that sometimes was called communist | May 27 21:22 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Big Spat on Rig Preceded Explosion http://ur1.ca/03pzz | May 27 21:22 | |
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| MinceR | these people have no idea what communism is | May 27 21:22 |
| MinceR | well, people in general have no idea of it | May 27 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | did you tell them to think of the holocaust, times 3 or 4? | May 27 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 27 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | that's Communism | May 27 21:22 |
| MinceR | they fail to see that | May 27 21:22 |
| MinceR | they deny that the "socialist" dictatorship killed lots of people, or even that it was a dictatorship | May 27 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | people see what's in front of them | May 27 21:23 |
| MinceR | remember our law about holocaust denial | May 27 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | does the term "bread and circuses" sound familiar? | May 27 21:23 |
| MinceR | there's no law about denial of the crimes of the "socialist" dictatorship | May 27 21:24 |
| MinceR | it does | May 27 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | the Roman politicians would distract people with violent death sports and free loaves of bread | May 27 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | not unlike the "sporting events" and food stamps of today | May 27 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | in the US | May 27 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | tamed down a little, but just as distracting | May 27 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | you can't fight a system that's luring your attention elsewhere or feeding you | May 27 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | that's what these things are in place to do | May 27 21:25 |
| MinceR | actually now the people have their means to distract themselves if they want to | May 27 21:26 |
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| MinceR | considering who gets voted into power, it seems to work pretty well :> | May 27 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: That's what I see welfare as | May 27 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | I know our government doesn't value human life at all | May 27 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | the handouts aren't charity | May 27 21:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Rocknerd: It don't mean a thing. http://rocknerd.co.uk/2010/05/27/it-dont-mean-a-thing/ HT @mouseboks | May 27 21:27 | |
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| DaemonFC | they're to institutionalize people | May 27 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | and allow big corporations contracted to run the program a huge profit on the side | May 27 21:27 |
| MinceR | the voting for this latest law proves that the new party, LMP isn't all that different from the others | May 27 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | charity is much more efficient because there's no profit motive and no ulterior motive of controlling or victimizing people | May 27 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | unfortunately, charity is tied in with religion, which also helps people over a selfish desire for converts :P | May 27 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | if you do something kind for another person because you feel like it's the right thing to do, and for no other reason, that earns you distrust | May 27 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | smear tactics | May 27 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | nobody is nice just for the hell of it, MinceR | May 27 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody is nice without Jesus telling them what to do :D | May 27 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | don't you see? | May 27 21:30 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: somebody could have wanted to fix the things that are going on in this country, though | May 27 21:30 |
| MinceR | people with a backbone | May 27 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, and the guys with the money will drown him out | May 27 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | or have him killed | May 27 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 27 21:30 |
| MinceR | the only way to find out what the new guys are is by seeing how they act | May 27 21:30 |
| MinceR | perhaps it's time to lynch those guys with the money, then | May 27 21:31 |
| MinceR | if that's the only way | May 27 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | yep, peasant revolt | May 27 21:32 |
| MinceR | after the first round of election, a link to the cult of $cientology also showed up, btw | May 27 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | but bread and circuses will destroy all hope there | May 27 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | cult cult cult Scientology cult cult cult sue me cult cult cult cult... | May 27 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 27 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, big business posing as religion | May 27 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | driving good people to commit suicide to try to get away from them | May 27 21:34 |
| MinceR | religion became big business long ago | May 27 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | because they have no other support structure than indoctrinated parents | May 27 21:34 |
| MinceR | back when it became the brainwashing department of the state | May 27 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | they're either Scienologists | May 27 21:34 |
| MinceR | (state-supported christianity in the Roman Empire) | May 27 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | or Southern Baptists :D | May 27 21:34 |
| MinceR | Co$ is merely doing the same more efficiently | May 27 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | cut out the government middleman | May 27 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | in a slap fight with other religions for your dollars errr soul | May 27 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 27 21:35 |
| MinceR | the link to the clams is not really verified yet, though | May 27 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | "We're compatible with your church, as long as we get your routing numbers first" | May 27 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 27 21:36 |
| MinceR | not just your dollars | May 27 21:36 |
| MinceR | also control over your life | May 27 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | Scientology brainwashes people to not only give the "church" all their assets | May 27 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | but once you're poor and have nowhere to go, they use you for slave labor | May 27 21:36 |
| MinceR | oppression by state, church and megacorps isn't only about money, it's also about getting to tell you how to live your life | May 27 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | it's a two phase system | May 27 21:37 |
| MinceR | these greedy assholes aren't just greedy, they're also control freaks | May 27 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: They work you 16 hour days in exchange for a room to sleep in and your meals | May 27 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | the rest "goes towards what you owe the church" | May 27 21:37 |
| MinceR | i know | May 27 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | for real | May 27 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | yeah I know they're dangerous | May 27 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | I like to prank people though by having the CO$ contact them | May 27 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 27 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | invite them to the free personality test | May 27 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | May 27 21:39 |
| MinceR | that's what you call a "prank"? | May 27 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, better than sending Mormons to their door | May 27 21:39 |
| MinceR | there are ways to prank people without exposing them to a cult | May 27 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | I only send the $cientologistS when someone has really earned my wrath | May 27 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 27 21:39 |
| MinceR | oh, that's no prank then | May 27 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | I would feel horrible though if they did sign up to be victimized | May 27 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't wish CO$ on a rabid dog I hated | May 27 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 27 21:40 |
| MinceR | despite earning your wrath? | May 27 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | May 27 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | ambivalence | May 27 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | I'd do it and feel bad about it later | May 27 21:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #AbiWord Fills the Gap Where #OpenOffice .org Proves Heavy http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/7076/1/ | May 27 21:51 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] You can view Gyan Darshan -1 using VLC player - #vlc mms://124.124.36.38/gd1 , watch foss next foss telecast at 3rd June , 3pm to 4pm | May 27 21:51 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla Takes Korea Back from the Convicted Monopolist, Has New Products http://ur1.ca/03wkx http://ur1.ca/03wky http://ur1.ca/03wkz | May 27 21:51 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Where's the profit in free antivirus? | May 27 22:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] "Okay, okay, if I give you an Easter Egg, will you go away?" http://blog.fasttracksites.com/index.php?p=viewentry&id=5 #ubuntu | May 27 22:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] USASpending.gov and Christina Aguilera Choose #Drupal (Free Software) http://ur1.ca/03wo1 http://ur1.ca/03wo4 | May 27 22:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at How #FreeSoftware Turns into Profitable Business http://ur1.ca/03aut http://ur1.ca/02ja2 | May 27 22:11 | |
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| schestowitz | Novell profit up | May 27 22:12 |
| schestowitz | They have just release the figures | May 27 22:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Project Release: #Openvirt 2.0 http://www.neondrum.com/public/public_release.php?id=399 | May 27 22:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Australian #Government Starts Talking About #FreeSoftware http://ur1.ca/03woz | May 27 22:17 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Fedora is going with Vala | May 27 22:20 |
| schestowitz | [22:01] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: Where's the profit in free antivirus? | May 27 22:20 |
| schestowitz | upselling? | May 27 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | looks like there's no intention of ever having anything to do with Mono in their default install | May 27 22:21 |
| MinceR | http://fatpita.net/?i=1043 | May 27 22:21 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I know about Fedora | May 27 22:21 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I'll upload something here in a minute I found funny | May 27 22:21 |
| schestowitz | Vala is the lesser problem, IMHO | May 27 22:21 |
| schestowitz | dotgnu we never hear of anymore | May 27 22:21 |
| MinceR | why is Vala a problem? | May 27 22:22 |
| schestowitz | some mono guys like david siegel from Canonical use vala, e.g. for the minimal ubuntu (unity) | May 27 22:22 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it compiles not like mono | May 27 22:23 |
| schestowitz | but it emulates some things similar to csharp | May 27 22:23 |
| schestowitz | It teaches people to gravitate 2wards the Vole | May 27 22:23 |
| MinceR | ic | May 27 22:23 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: http://fatpita.net/?i=6001 | May 27 22:24 |
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| schestowitz | fatpita? | May 27 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Sounds delicious | May 27 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1947/89054912.png | May 27 22:25 |
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| DaemonFC | You are FULLY protected....Buy more protection today! | May 27 22:25 |
| schestowitz | In win98 I got fake alarms | May 27 22:26 |
| schestowitz | My dad told me I had been infected | May 27 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Cause they showed a picture of magnified viruses | May 27 22:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Perl #Programming Seen as Having a Promising Future http://www.oreillygmt.co.uk/2010/05/damian-conway-on-perl-and-its-future.html | May 27 22:26 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I put it in silent mode cause I don't want to have to hear what it's doing all the time | May 27 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Some people think viruses are... well, _virsuses_ | May 27 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | unless there's a virus, it should leave me alone | May 27 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Maybe because of the old connotation of "bugs" | May 27 22:26 |
| schestowitz | But actually, your computer always have viruses | May 27 22:27 |
| schestowitz | Can Microrganisms survive well on hot motherboard with little biological material to gnaw on? | May 27 22:27 |
| schestowitz | *microorganisms | May 27 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | AT&T needs to proofread their form letters | May 27 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | "Dear Ryan Farmer, this letter is to advice you...." | May 27 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 27 22:28 |
| schestowitz | You've been a naughty boy, eh? | May 27 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | advice away! | May 27 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | no | May 27 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | they like to start the letters out like that to fuck with you | May 27 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | then comes something banal and marginally important | May 27 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 27 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | it's to make you think that they're "advicing" you to pay up or get shut off | May 27 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | then in the middle of that "What did I do?" thought, they're sending you an updated privacy policy | May 27 22:31 |
| *DaemonFC is drinking some distilled water | May 27 22:32 | |
| DaemonFC | this stuff is really good | May 27 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | it's more watery than water | May 27 22:32 |
| MinceR | it's also harmful to your health | May 27 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | oh psshaw! | May 27 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | it's pure water | May 27 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | it's not going to hurt me | May 27 22:33 |
| MinceR | it reduces the concentration of salts in your body | May 27 22:33 |
| MinceR | which are important | May 27 22:33 |
| MinceR | for example, for the functioning of neurons | May 27 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, well | May 27 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | I'll just have to wait until I eat my next meal | May 27 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | this is America bucko | May 27 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | it'll have 400% of my daily salt | May 27 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | so nyaaah! :P | May 27 22:34 |
| MinceR | salt isn't only NaCl | May 27 22:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, but nacl is salty | May 27 22:34 |
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| DaemonFC | a glass of distilled water won't hurt me | May 27 22:35 |
| MinceR | apparently the effects aren't considered to be serious | May 27 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | if I drank only distilled water every day for a month is might throw me off balance | May 27 22:35 |
| schestowitz | WTH? http://www.computerworlduk.com/management/security/cybercrime/news/index.cfm?newsid=20433 As we were just saying, " | May 27 22:35 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] LOL - US patent for exercising cat http://fatpita.net/images/image%20%28980%29.jpg #cat #patent #absurd | May 27 22:35 | |
| schestowitz | A British scientist claims to have become the first human to be infected by a computer virus, in an experiment he says has important implications for the future of implantable technology. | May 27 22:35 |
| MinceR | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distilled_water#Health_concern | May 27 22:35 |
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| schestowitz | Advert | May 27 22:35 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz: it's a cheat | May 27 22:35 |
| MinceR | it's an implant that got infected | May 27 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | the tap water here has so much damned calcium in it that you boil water for tea 5-6 times and have to scrape about an eighth of an inch off when you wash the pot | May 27 22:37 |
| schestowitz | Yes. Seems like the press bamboozled | May 27 22:37 |
| schestowitz | Some idiot from Reading... | May 27 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think I'm in danger of deficiency | May 27 22:37 |
| schestowitz | Makes a headline that seems more like an adolescent's stunt | May 27 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: So if it's so dangerous to drink purified water, then how come health nuts do it and never get hurt by it? | May 27 22:38 |
| schestowitz | But his little publicity stunt worked because journalists will run it for the gist, even if they know it's crap. That's why we still have just like "UFO" 'experts' and supernatural junk on TV, even chiros | May 27 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 27 22:38 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i don't know about those health nuts | May 27 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | how is reverse osmosis any better than distilled? | May 27 22:38 |
| schestowitz | Where's the middle? | May 27 22:38 |
| schestowitz | Typical debating trick... for skeptics to fall for | May 27 22:39 |
| schestowitz | You pretend there's nothing in-between | May 27 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | well, the drinking water machine at the store does reverse osmosis and UV light sterilization | May 27 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | that and charcoal filtering | May 27 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | that scrubs out all the same stuff right? | May 27 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | brb, battery charged | May 27 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | time for round three of the weed whacking | May 27 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 27 22:41 |
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| MinceR | dunno, and i'm not even sure if they remove all the salts then | May 27 22:41 |
| MinceR | charcoal filtering removes other stuff too | May 27 22:41 |
| schestowitz | He's gone | May 27 22:41 |
| schestowitz | His water broke, maybe | May 27 22:41 |
| MinceR | i know, but at least i can just copy-paste my answer :> | May 27 22:42 |
| schestowitz | [22:41] <DaemonFC> time for round three of the weed whacking | May 27 22:42 |
| schestowitz | Why is he whacking his weed 3 times per day? | May 27 22:42 |
| MinceR | lol | May 27 22:42 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it drives the battery, like OLPC XO1 | May 27 22:43 |
| schestowitz | They had one kid jerk it, the other one read an ebook | May 27 22:43 |
| schestowitz | And BillG made fun of it for it | May 27 22:43 |
| schestowitz | The arrangement works fine until nature calls | May 27 22:44 |
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| schestowitz | is this really a gnome-panel? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3814277/Fedora13/OSLoad.jpg | May 27 23:05 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.osor.eu/news/tr-ministry-of-justice-and-law-courts-consider-open-source-desktop | May 27 23:06 |
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| schestowitz | "seems like a rebuild to include libvirt and a newer kernel; I would say... use F13 ;-)" http://identi.ca/conversation/33662388#notice-33814367 | May 27 23:07 |
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| schestowitz | I'm not seeing the kde side of fedora | May 27 23:07 |
| schestowitz | Is is gnome by defaul? | May 27 23:07 |
| schestowitz | Would be ironic now that opensuse goes into kde by default in the setup process | May 27 23:08 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: is this Polish? http://identi.ca/conversation/33662374#notice-33814403 | May 27 23:09 |
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| schestowitz | " haha, nice rationalization, let's say you're saved this time. ;)" | May 27 23:09 |
| schestowitz | What are they saying there? | May 27 23:09 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: almost certainly. but i don't know polish well enough to understand it. | May 27 23:09 |
| schestowitz | Borys Musielak seems to have moved to | May 27 23:09 |
| schestowitz | Borys Musielak | May 27 23:09 |
| schestowitz | Location | May 27 23:09 |
| schestowitz | London | May 27 23:09 |
| schestowitz | let me try google translate | May 27 23:09 |
| MinceR | well, i understood some unimportant parts | May 27 23:10 |
| MinceR | http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/iphone-vulnerability-leaves-your-data-wide-open-even-when-using/ | May 27 23:16 |
| Techrights | Title: iPhone vulnerability leaves your data wide open, even when using a PIN -- Engadget .::. Size~: 216.4 KB | May 27 23:16 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/S4wlS.jpg | May 27 23:24 |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | May 27 23:27 |
| _goblin | hi | May 27 23:29 |
| schestowitz | ahoy | May 27 23:39 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: ivuln | May 27 23:39 |
| MinceR | :) | May 27 23:39 |
| schestowitz | shiny hole | May 27 23:39 |
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| schestowitz | did you whack your weed? | May 27 23:42 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/S4wlS.jpg | May 27 23:42 |
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| MinceR | 233848 < MinceR> dunno, and i'm not even sure if they remove all the salts then | May 27 23:43 |
| MinceR | 233854 < MinceR> charcoal filtering removes other stuff too | May 27 23:43 |
| MinceR | ^ for the one who whacks it | May 27 23:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] This is a funny sequence of IMGes about how IDG's "blog" section is trolling disguised as "news": http://i.imgur.com/S4wlS.jpg | May 27 23:43 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.blogicalthoughts.com/images/signs/1203_signs.jpg | May 27 23:46 |
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| MinceR | oh, i linked an image twice :) | May 27 23:47 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I've just come up with a new word: | May 27 23:47 |
| schestowitz | journal least | May 27 23:47 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: so uninstalling the daemon will make it available? | May 27 23:47 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: nice. | May 27 23:47 |
| schestowitz | pompous fountains of truth | May 27 23:48 |
| *schestowitz thinks of Byfield and Gralla | May 27 23:49 | |
| schestowitz | Anyway, except for in the sciences, truth rarely exists, it's POV-dependent | May 27 23:49 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right, moving on from dubious nymshifting of a Linux advocate..still looking at DeVeDe 3.16.8 - Excellent prog, I'll be covering it shortly. | May 27 23:50 | |
| MinceR | what about engineering? | May 27 23:50 |
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| schestowitz | Like quantum mechanics | May 27 23:50 |
| schestowitz | I was given some examples recently | May 27 23:50 |
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| schestowitz | This chat with some Bloom dude.. | May 27 23:50 |
| MinceR | software engineering is applied science :> | May 27 23:51 |
| schestowitz | You can see how in debates (not experiments) you can prove either side correct by changing assumptions | May 27 23:51 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that's maths/physics | May 27 23:51 |
| schestowitz | axioms exist | May 27 23:51 |
| schestowitz | But the number 1 is not like "Iraq is liberated" | May 27 23:51 |
| schestowitz | One is simple and atomic | May 27 23:52 |
| schestowitz | The other is a complex statement and it's dependent on words that convey perception | May 27 23:52 |
| schestowitz | We call the sun "Warm" and "bright" | May 27 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Not a frigging explosion or "Hell" | May 27 23:52 |
| schestowitz | A chicken calls its slaughtered baby now what we call omelette | May 27 23:53 |
| schestowitz | So you can flip "truth" on its head a lot of the time | May 27 23:53 |
| schestowitz | Then it's down to justifications you can give, including philosophies | May 27 23:54 |
| schestowitz | Equality, freedom, definition of freedom, purpose, causality.... most debates come down to that, including in IT | May 27 23:54 |
| schestowitz | Apple spends billions brainwashing people, defining so-called "truth", creating wants and needs. Those who can make their own "truths" stick will have mind share | May 27 23:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.insidesocal.com/click/2010/05/some-clarity-on-my-feeling-abo.html | May 27 23:55 |
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| schestowitz | Here's some annoying blogger | May 27 23:56 |
| schestowitz | Rambling about anything he does on his PC | May 27 23:56 |
| schestowitz | http://insidesocal.com/click/2010/05/ubuntu-lucid-i-fix-another-pro.html | May 27 23:57 |
| Techrights | Title: Ubuntu Lucid: I fix another problem (maybe), but questions about Canonical remain - CLICK .::. Size~: 56.94 KB | May 27 23:57 |
| schestowitz | Stupid headline: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/25/fedora_13_review/ | May 27 23:57 |
| Techrights | Title: Fedora 13 – Linux for Applephobes • The Register .::. Size~: 32.48 KB | May 27 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Aborted chicken ovulations, dead pig flesh, and overprocessed artificial bead product with melted plastic | May 27 23:58 |
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| DaemonFC | good breakfast, really | May 27 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | *bread | May 27 23:58 |
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